City of Bloomington, Indiana City Council, 16 Oct 2019

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Seeing that we have a quorum I'll call to order this common council special.

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Session for the introduction to ordinance 1924, which repeals and.

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Reenacts the text of the title: 20 unified development, ordinance, the you do.

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And other matters of the council of october 16th 2019 will the clerk please.

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Call the roll piedmont smith granger reloj here, bowen simms here stir bomb.

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Sandburg here, thank you. Thank you here is tonight's agenda summation if you'd.

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Like an agenda, you may find it on the clerk's desk. We will have reports this.

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Evening we have one report, which is the 2018 greenhouse gas inventory report.

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Which will be presented by mayor hamilton, they'll be presented by alex crowley, and then we will visit council schedule. Then.

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We will introduce ordinance 1924 to repeal and replace title 20 of the.

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Bloomington municipal code entitled unified development ordinance. We will.

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Anticipate a motion on conduct of deliberations and then we will have an.

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Introduction to the proposed unified development ordinance, which is chapter 1,.

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The ordinance foundation and chapter 2 zoning districts, then we will, we will.

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Debate other matters or actions related to this proposal ready to be raised at.

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This meeting before we recess to we recess until october 22nd correct mr.

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Sherman, so that's tonight's agenda summation. Let's go to reports. Mr.

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Good evening, I'm alex crowley director of economic and sustainable development.

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It's my pleasure to introduce the results of bloomington's 2018 greenhouse.

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Gas inventory report I'll make some summary remarks and then.

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Lauren travis, our assistant director for sustainability for the city, will share.

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Top-Line data from the report, the full report is available on the city of.

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Bloomington's sustainability page, as you may know, we.

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Released the report yesterday and held a well attended session with members of.

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The public here at city hall yesterday evening there was a good and lively.

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Discussion which we appreciated before I start with these same comments that I.

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Made last night I'd like to recognize a significant contribution to the report.

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By savannah rodrigue second year, onea o'neill fellow student, who did much of.

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The heavy lifting on the data in our department this summer, I'd also like to.

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Recognize the iu environmental resilience institute and the mckinney.

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Family family foundation for the invaluable support they provided.

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Bloomington and other indiana communities and developing our.

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Respective greenhouse gas inventories, many thanks also to duke energy, to.

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Vectren and city staff for their support during the data collection screens in.

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We're gonna keep working on it, I'm not actually using slides. So we have a.

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Little time to kill, so let me begin by focusing our attention on the severity.

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Of our climate emergency, as you know, the effects of the changing climate are.

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Already evident here at home, with significant rainfalls and loss of mics.

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With significant rainfalls and rising temperatures, which are projected to.

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Worsen in the years to come, the effects are also evident regionally.

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Nationally and globally, this is not some distant and abstract issue for us.

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According to purdue university's climate impacts assessment- and I quote: indiana's.

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Climate will warm dramatically in the coming decades, particularly in the.

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Summer, both the number of hot days and the hottest temperatures of the year are.

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Projected to increase markedly indiana's winners and springs are projected to.

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Become considerably wetter and the frequency of extreme precipitation.

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Events are expected to increase end quote.

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According to the intergovernmental panel on climate change or ipcc, the impacts of.

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Climate change are starting to become devastating and, if left, unchecked,.

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Climate change will threaten our very existence on this planet. A temperature.

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Increase of 1.5 degrees celsius above pre-industrial levels will accelerate a.

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Series of cataclysmic effects, including species loss, heat waves, rising sea.

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Levels, flooding and increases in ocean acidity. This is not hyperbole. This is.

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Science and despite assertions to the contrary from certain corners of our.

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Federal and state governments, a certain assertions that are frankly astounding.

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In their shortsightedness, we humans are causing the problem, which is why it's so.

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Important for communities like ours to measure greenhouse gas emissions.

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Accurately, and to develop and implement plans to minimize emissions with the.

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Highest possible urgency. It was with this urgency in mind that the city of.

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Bloomington undertook and completed its 2018 sustainability action plan, which.

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Was adopted by city council last doctor this five-year plan, the first of its.

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Kind undertaken by our community and the result of hundreds of hours of community.

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Input lays out specific steps. The city government and the community can take to.

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Continue to shift our trajectory toward globe greater sustainability, the.

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Sustainability action plan addresses a number of focus areas, including climate.

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Change and adaptation, energy and the built environment, transportation, local.

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Food and agriculture, waste water, ecosystem, health and city operations.

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While greenhouse gas emissions can be tied to many of these areas of focus, the.

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Climate change and adaptation chapters specifically addresses the need to.

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Accurately account for and to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. In fact,.

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Establishing a consistent methodology for measuring and reporting emissions is.

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The first action item in the sustainability action plan action item.

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1.1, a this action supports a goal of reducing community greenhouse gas.

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Emissions by 11 percent by 2023 relative to a baseline of 1.3 million metric tons.

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Of greenhouse gas emissions in 2016 to meet the city's declared climate.

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Commitments, so how does the 11 percent reduction between 2016 and 2023 compare.

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To the overall goal of the paris agreement to which the mayor committed.

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Our community as part of the climate mayor's commitment, the 11 percent.

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Reduction was calculated based on the results of the city's 2016 greenhouse.

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Gas inventory versus a previously undertaken inventory using 2006 data.

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Unfortunately, both the 2006 and the 2016 inventories did not benefit from the.

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Same rigor, standardization and third party audit auditing applied to this the.

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2018 greenhouse gas inventory, which we are, which we just released, thus the 11.

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Percent reduction was the best estimate available at the time, which is why our.

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Next step, following today or yesterday's release of the report will be to retro.

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Actively complete a historical inventory using the same, updated and stan.

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Methodology used in this report will likely use 2011 data unless we can.

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Accurately go back to 2005 by doing so, we'll establish our actual trajectory of.

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Emissions using a consistent globally accepted method for cities to calculate.

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And report emissions, which is aligned with the local governments for.

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Sustainability or a cle standard. So while it's tempting to try to compare.

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Our current emissions to previous reporting and as noted in the report.

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Some data can actually be compared. It is our recommendation that we complete a.

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Full review of the best historical data available before we definitively assess.

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Our current performance against bloomin bloomington's commitment, which is.

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Reducing greenhouse gas emissions by at least 26 to 28 percent below 2005 levels.

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By 2025 well undertake and complete the.

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Historical review as quickly as possible and it will and then we'll publish that.

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Information as soon as it's available at the same time, we are undertaking a.

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Climate vulnerability assessment to be completed in 2020 to provide a detailed.

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Review of the anticipated climate related risks to people infrastructure.

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And national natural resources in bloomington and monroe county: this is an.

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Important effort, especially because we recognize that climate change.

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Disproportionately affects individuals who are already vulnerable and least.

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Able to respond to and adapt to climate hazards, such as flooding and severe heat.

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Let me conclude by saying we recognize that this challenge before us is huge.

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And it will take our entire community working together to respond to it. The.

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Sustainability action plan lays out an aggressive set of actions we can and.

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Will continue to pursue, in collaboration with the community, to help address the.

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Global and local climate emergency, accurate reporting, is imperative in.

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Understanding our progress, but actions to reduce emissions are of the utmost.

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Priority and we will continue to pursue those with the highest sense of urgency,.

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We look forward to your feedback on the two thousand 18 greenhouse gas inventory, including what we can do to strengthen the report for the future. An ongoing.

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Dialogue with city council and the community, as we all do, our part to.

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Confront climate change here at home. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you alex. My name is lauren travis that I serve as the assistant director.

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Of sustainability for the city of bloomington, I will be presenting the.

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Results of our inventory, as alex mentioned, conducting the greenhouse gas.

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Inventory is a 20-19 sustainability action plan goal. The goal was to.

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Establish a consistent methodology for measuring and reporting greenhouse gas.

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Emissions and is now complete with the publication of this report. Integration.

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Of this action during the sustainability action plan, planning process was based.

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On community feedback that it was important to establish a common language.

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Around emissions, a direct and consistent way to estimate the total amount of.

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Community, greenhouse gas emissions and a way to use metrics to help the community.

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See the accomplishments and direction that the city is taking with respect to.

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Sustainability and climate action: this is also an opportunity to communicate.

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The impacts of climate change and make a translatable to residents, so they.

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Understand their impacts and the importance of climate action cities.

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Including bloomington are significant and growing source of energy consumption.

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And greenhouse gas emissions, a city's ability to take effective action on.

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Mitigating climate change and monitoring progress depends on having access to.

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Good quality data on emissions planning for climate action begins with.

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Developing an inventory in inventory enables citizens and cities to.

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Understand the emissions contribution of different activities in their community.

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Bloomington followed the global protocol for community scale, greenhouse gas.

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Emissions inventory, and that provides us with an estimate of our impact for all.

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Emissions generating activities attributable to bloomington following.

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This protocol for counting bloomington's emissions means that our quantification.

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Method is consistent with how other cities also report their emissions as.

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Alex alluded to, there will be significant climate impacts, not only.

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Globally, but here in bloomington in monroe county, the midwest should.

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Anticipate increased precipitation, flood risks, increased intensity and frequency.

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Of extreme hot days and heat waves increase insect pests and invasives.

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Dc's presents and increased vector, borne illness and airborne illness. Many of the.

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Impacts are interconnected and impacts in one secretary often result in impacts.

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In other sectors, based on modeling, mineral county can expect 50 days of.

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Over 95 degrees, when the historical average husband to an average hottest.

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Day of the year of a hundred and seven degrees, when the average hottest day has.

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Been 97 and an average coldest day of the year of one degree, we can also.

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Expect impacts the ecosystem, health, local food and agriculture, public health.

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Waste management, energy, transportation and infrastructure and water management.

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To learn more about the full climate impacts, please read the report, so we.

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Conducted this inventory as part of the resilience cohort which provided support.

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From iu for 14 indiana communities with training technical resources, a peer.

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Network and that gave us the ability to complete the inventory at a community.

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Scale, some of the other cities that participated were carmel columbus, muncie.

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Evansville fishers fort wayne, gary green castle, goshen michigan city oldenburg,.

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Richmond and west lafayette during the course of this inventory, we measured the.

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Following sectors, stationary energy transportation, solid waste, water and.

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Wastewater, so that includes combustion of fuel in government, residential.

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Commercial and industrial buildings, all energy related to transportation. So all.

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Journeys via road, air, water and rail and waste disposal and treatment procedures.

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So, as you can see in this diagram, there's some direct impacts that come.

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From transportation, waste and energy and then also anything happening outside.

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City limits its attributable to activities within as well as stationary.

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Energy, which is grid supplied, the calculations, are pretty complicated, but.

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Basically, it comes down to any activity activity happening in city limits being.

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Multiplied by an emissions factor which we can then.

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Anslee into the amount of carbon dioxide equivalent that is released to that miss.

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Fear as a result of activities occurring in bloomington city limits and the.

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Results indicate that the majority of our impact comes from stationary energy.

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From electricity or natural gas consumption that results for about 75.

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Percent of our impact with the next largest coming from transportation at.

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Twenty seven point: three percent with solid waste accounting for eight percent.

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So our total emissions for the community were about 1.6 million total carbon.

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Dioxide equivalency and metric tons, which amounts to 19.3 perc appa, then we.

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Also looked at the emissions attributable to local government.

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Operations so that looks a little bit different about 60% of our impact comes.

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From treating and moving water and wastewater throughout our community, our.

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There's about fourteen percent, that's attributable to buildings and then most.

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Of the majority comes from our fleet, so how does that? What does that data mean.

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Basically, we can also translate it on a per capita basis and look at other.

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Cities that have followed the same protocol, so the u.s. averages the left.

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Of bloomington, which is in yellow, we emitted 19.3 metric tons. I think it's.

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Important to note that local context matters a city's energy mix, its.

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Population, its development patterns, its density and its size also contribute to.

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Emissions per capita, but just as a point of reference, that's where we stand in.

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Relation to other cities that have reported also, we can look at the data in.

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A state context: we know that indiana is the ninth most energy intensive state in.

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The country, so that graph shows the million of metric tons of carbon dioxide.

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Emitted by every state in 2016, that means for every indiana resident about.

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Twenty seven point: four metric tons of co2 emissions are generated just to do.

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Electricity, then also on the left, is a is a pie.

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Chart showing our duke energy mix basically about 60% of energy produced.

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By duke energy who's, our electricity provider is coal based and then the.

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Remainder is natural gas, with wind, solar and hydro, representing a pretty.

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Insignificant portion of their portfolio another way to look at it is trends and.

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The activities that are generating the emissions we know between 2011 and 2018.

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We've had about a 7% decrease in stationary electricity consumed, so a.

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Pretty market improvement in that, but we've also at the same time, had an.

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Increase in the number of miles traveled per person on city streets and a slight.

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Increase in the tons of municipal waste land filled, so that is just a measure of.

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Activity resulting in greenhouse gas emissions and another way to kind of.

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Visualize the information as alex mentioned, we have conducted inventories.

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In the past, if you're interested in the degree to which those are comparable, you.

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Can read more in the report, but this is the most comprehensive inventory we've.

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Done so far, it measures more things, including looking at water and wastewater, which was not measured in the 2016 report. It's.

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The only one that's followed, the global protocol, completely we've had limited.

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Access in the past to the platform for calculations and before 2014, there was.

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No way for cities to calculate and report their emissions in a consistent.

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Way so it's quite common to have inventories that have been improving.

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Over time, in terms of their consistency, so this is a not the only thing that.

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We're doing in regards to climate mitigation and adaptation, the first.

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Action was to complete this inventory to calculate our impact and present it to.

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The public we're also looking at past goals that have been set, including the.

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Mayor's national climate action agenda, global covenant for mayors and then our.

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Sustainable action plan climate change chapter: we have ongoing initiatives that.

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Also contribute to emissions reduction that will be going on in 2020 and then.

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As part of our commitment we'll continue to report via.

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Same methodology and 2021 with other progress, reported on a yearly basis.

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Including a progress report for our sustainability action plan and a.

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Sustainability dashboard, which will be ongoing, that will show some of that.

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Activity, data and trends as a following for this, we're also going to be applying.

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For the next round of the resilience cohort, which is another program out of.

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Iu environmental resilience institute to get support for prioritizing actions in.

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Regards to emissions reduction and then, as alex mentioned, we are conducting a.

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Climate vulnerability assessment, another sustainability action plan goal to.

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Provide a review of how we can expect climate to affect people infrastructure.

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And natural resources in bloomington in monroe county and then the full report.

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Can be found at bloomington ing of sustainability under 2018 bloomington.

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Greenhouse gas inventory. Thank you. I.

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Don't see any questions, I have one quick question: does the methodology I've.

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Always wondered about this because if we're gonna get grapple with the entire.

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Carbon footprint of the community, it should include goods that are imported.

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And certain goods have more carbon intensity, obviously than others ones.

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That contain metals and things from mining. Is that or is that addressed in.

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This calculation, no, basically, we can only include data for which we have.

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Consistent reporting so right now we don't have that on a local scale. So.

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There's a lot of things that there that our emissions generating that aren't.

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Included in the scope of this inquiry, other people have asked about and.

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Boating or leaf blowers have two things, but basically we included the data for.

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Which that is commonly included in those categories, so energy, transportation and.

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Waste being the largest contributors to our impact, sure, okay,.

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I'm wondering then how to grapple with. If one of our aims is local agriculture.

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So we're going to offset transportation of shipping iceberg lettuce from.

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California, which is pretty significant, considering the calories you get out of.

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An iceberg lettuce, but if we grow locally then we obviate that right. We.

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Remove that carbon, so somehow we're gonna have to grapple with just some.

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Thumbnail regarding consumption, average consumption of an american consumer or.

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Something to be able to it seems to me to be able to make sense of the gains.

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That we do in terms of increasing local agriculture, for instance, so there is an.

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Agriculture, category of the protocol right now we're not generating enough.

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Food to have reported in that category, so if we were to increase, we would then.

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Show our impact within agriculture category so I'm not sure that it would.

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Specifically, look at the reduction based on food imports, but we do have some that.

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Data that our local food coordinator has collected in terms of our local food.

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Economy and what the impact would be of production here in monroe county yeah.

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Okay, thank you. We have another question from councilman ramon smith. I don't have.

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A question: may I make a comment? Oh yes, oh I have not had time to read this so.

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My questions will have to be deferred to later, but I just wanted to thank you.

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Very much thank the administration and everybody involved in writing. This.

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Report, I think this is an essential first step to tracking our what will.

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Hopefully be our soon future progress, so I really appreciate the report and I'll.

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Be reading it more detail soon great. Thank you. Councilman roland thanks for.

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The report- I guess my question- has been sort of an existential one for a while.

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Is there any thought about, you know the carrying capacity of the community like.

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There's a certain how many people can we handle in this area? I mean: does this.

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Report sort of contemplate thinking about that long term limit. Is there a.

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Goal that we're shooting for well, I think that if you look at other.

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Communities there's ways to grow that don't necessarily result in increasing.

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Impact on carbon. So if you look at new york city, for instance, they have one of.

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The highest overall impact, but per capita it's lower than.

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Other communities and it's really based on how resources are flowing through.

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Your community and the more efficiently that happens and your impact desert is.

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So if we are realizing our impact and managing our resources efficiently, then.

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Growth doesn't need to necessitate an increase in emissions. I know that roi.

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Did sort of a regional thing, but if it's sometimes hard to distinguish between.

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The city limits and the immediate surroundings, when we do per-capita.

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Measurements are we, is it a futile effort to sort of read.

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Anything useful in that data, not necessarily I mean, I think also you can.

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Look at the report and the fact that that those scope, three emissions really.

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Looked at the impact of activities that are happening outside of the community.

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That relate to inside. So while it's the the scope of this particular report of.

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City limits, because that's our administrative boundaries that would be a useful exercise to partner with the county. You know look at what our entire.

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County's impacts and to what degree we can improve as a larger body very good.

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Thank you any other questions. Thank you. Miss.

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Travis, thank you mr. crowley. Looking forward to reading the report, we will.

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Now, move on to council schedule, mr. shermin yes meeting scheduled this.

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Friday, it's the council work session to items that could be brought to your.

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Attention one is pud on moore's pike, the other is establishing on your westside.

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Conservation district the use have both of these could come for introduction on.

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October 30th, so please, let me know if you want this meeting held or canceled.

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Is there okay, we have a show of hands who would like to attend the meeting.

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Three of us, so let's proceed with that. Thank you. Many people have more anything.

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Else to consider, mr. chairman, no thank you all right. Thank you. Now, we'll move.

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On to ordinance 1924, I understand we didn't we've already introduced this.

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So this is ordinance 1924 to repeal and replace title 20 of the bloomington.

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Municipal code entitled unified development ordinance and I think we'll.

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Proceed if someone would like to offer a motion on conduct at deliberations.

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President, I would like to propose a motion to shape debate and discussion of.

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The ordinance in the introductory phase, where we go chapter by chapter reviewing.

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The you do during its initial review, we'll discuss each chapter in order and.

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In accordance with the proposed schedule for common council, consideration of.

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Ordinance 1924, which is a separate document that is subject to revision, is.

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Necessary the order of business for each chapter would be as follows: a.

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Presentation by staff of 20 minutes a period of common council questions to be.

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30 minutes total with three minutes per counts. Member per opportunity to speak.

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Public input of one three-minute statement per speaker with no limit on.

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The period an additional council question period of no more than 20.

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Minutes with again three minutes per council member for opportunity to speak.

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And then finally, comma council, debate of four minutes per member maximum of 36.

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Minutes in total, with the two opportunities to speak in that four.

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Minutes as far as amendments go, members of the public may raise potential.

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Amendments during the public comment portion of the public meetings and also.

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By direct contact with council members outside of public meetings, this is as.

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Per our normal procedure, however, in accordance with normal council practice,.

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Again, a part of regular procedure, only council members may sponsor and initiate.

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Amendments members will submit amendments to the council staff as soon.

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As feasible, the primary deadline for amendments is.

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Monday november 4th at noon, this deadline is intended to apply for all.

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But minor or technical amendments of narrow scope, a second deadline for these.

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Latter amendments is set for november 25th at noon. Council consideration of.

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First-Round amendments would occur in november, but may extend into december.

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Council consideration is second, around amendments will we'll be taken up in december in order to accommodate the schedule. The public.

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Is advised to communicate with council members well in advance of those dates.

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The public will have an opportunity to file written objections to the you do.

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With the city, clerk and county auditor, the common council will consider these.

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Written objections as a separate item on the agenda at the meeting scheduled for.

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October. 30Th and prior to a vote on adoption scheduled for december 18th,.

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Other opportunities for consideration of written objections may be announced and.

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Added to the schedule, amendments will be heard over a course of meetings in.

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November and if necessary december, as listed on the schedule and separate.

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Document the order for amendments will appear on the agenda and except were.

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Acted upon via a consent agenda will be subject to a majority vote of the.

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Council, after the council has voted on all amendments and considered any new.

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Written objections it will vote on the entire ordinance as amended, except for.

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Those amendments that appear on the consent agenda each amendment will be.

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Heard in the following manner, the sponsor will have 10 minutes to present.

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Planning and transportation staff will have 5 minutes to respond. The common.

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Council questions for the amendment will be no more than 30 minutes with no more.

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Than 3 minutes per councilmember opportunity to speak, public input will.

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Be one three-minute statement per speaker with no limit additional council.

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Questions will be three minutes per member per opportunity to speak with a.

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Limit of ten minutes total and then common council debate will be maximum.

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Four minutes per member two minutes each of two bites of the apple maximum of 36.

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Minutes total looking for a second, very good. Thank you for that motion for.

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Procedure and a second mr. sherman is this debatable as far as recess revision.

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Of procedures and other matters concert elaborations on this ordinance will.

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Occur over a series of meetings, what will be one continuous hearing as such.

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Until these deliberations come to a close, the council will recess and not.

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Adjourn at the end of each meeting, as previously adopted by the council, the.

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Meetings will start at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise stated in the schedule against.

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Separate document, or as changed by a vote of the council, the council may at.

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Any time vote to recess until the next scheduled meeting or until another date.

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And time agreed upon by the council, however, each meeting shall not last.

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Longer than four hours, unless approved by two-thirds vote of the council, these.

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Procedures will be followed unless change by action of the common council.

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Such action requires no more than a majority of the council additional.

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Procedures may be adopted by the council may include, but are not limited to time.

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Limits for council debating questions and the hour and manner for assessing.

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These meetings. That concludes the motion. Thank you. Thank you.

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Debatable, yes, any questions from council come on smith. Yes, I just wanted to note.

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That, in both item 2 and item 7, the sections called additional council.

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Questions this means so we have, in the part two for a review of the chapters.

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Three minutes per council member, but a total of twenty minutes. So that means.

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Somebody's not going to get three minutes, so it's first-come, first-serve.

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Is that the idea and then again on item seven when we discussed the amendments.

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For additional council questions, it says three minutes for council member per.

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Round ten minutes total that's nowhere near three times nine people which is 27.

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Minutes so I'm just wondering what the thought process is there. Thank you. Well,.

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I mean I didn't necessarily change that that limit, but we should note that not.

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Every member has an obligation to ask questions and not, I remember, will ask.

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Questions so this is again where the two-thirds vote, which can be done as a.

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Voice vote can be invoked to extend deliberation at any point in this.

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Process we're going to find that some chapters, some amendments are more.

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Interesting than others, and I would politely and like ask my colleagues to.

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You know to roll with a little bit to extend people an opportunity to speak.

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And some points- and you know to extend the debate and you know there- there will be others that there's not just not as much.

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So, let's play it by ear, so it's not just fun of your question comes in men, smith,.

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Comes from stefan, I mean I did not offer the entirety of this document. I did not.

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Recommend example: ten minutes total for additional questions, but there are 30.

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Minutes for questions in the first period I add I am the maker of the.

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Motion but I'm happy to amend any part of it if a member would like what would.

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You prefer keep in mind again. These are the upper limits for and and they're, not.

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Hard and fast limits they are just are the convention for the purpose of.

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Handling this ordinance and we can always extend an additional concept.

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Question period beyond 10 minutes, as long as someone says, I move that we.

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Extend a period by another 10 minutes, we have to stop now the 2/3 vote to extend.

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That 10 minute period and it could be after just a third question- it's true.

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But if that's the second period for questions, I might point out so counselor.

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Introduced a question, thank you. My question is: could we also.

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Submit questions in writing to to staff absolutely that's what we do with the.

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Budget, that's always been possible. I think that perhaps considering a.

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Document of this volume, it would be prudent of us to think about what.

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Questions we feel we have to ask publicly, which versus ones that could be.

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Asked in writing outside of a meeting where everyone's time is, it's.

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Concentrated in this space, further questions or comments don't swear in.

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Commencement, um I suggest we change in both item two and.

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In item seven, the additional council questions to two minutes per council.

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Member, so that we're a little bit closer to the overall time limit discussion.

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Home amendment to the amendment in item seven means the two items you shortened.

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The comment period instead of lengthening the total time wondered if.

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You wanted would be open to doing both a little bit so counselor piedmont's v.

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Wants to shorten the period when somebody has the floor for three minutes.

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To two customers still wants to extend the period for additional questions.

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During amendments from 10 minutes to 20, I think maybe we should just for both.

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Periods additional questions would be two minutes per member 20 minutes total.

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And two minutes per member 20 mr. total four amendments as well. Does that sound.

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Like a plan, I would agree to that.

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Yes, satisfactory. Thank you okay. So we have a motion and second to amend items.

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Two and seven to read additional council questions. Two minutes per member 20.

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Minutes total, in both cases very good, let's say, of a roll call, vote clerk.

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Bolton will you call the roll just for clarification? Was that one.

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Motion, or was that two separate ones? I think I amended councilor piedmont.

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Smith's motion- okay, thank you. So are we voting on the amendment to the.

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Motion on the table: yes, let's do that. Okay,.

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And then we'll visit the motion, I think a voice vote all right, then we will do.

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It by voice vote didn't yes, yes, I guess so.

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All in favor aye any opposed. Okay, that's accepted now we'll go back to the.

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Original motion, I think we can do that by voice foot as well preference work.

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Bolton all in favor of accepting this procedure for two structured.

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Deliberations as amended say: aye aye, then you posed good wonderful. Now we can.

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Proceed so we will now go to the introduction to proposed unified.

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Development ordinance chapter 1 and chapter 2.

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Good evening, while scott is getting our presentation up on the screen, I'm terry.

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Porter, I'm the director of planning and transportation, and I want to thank you.

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For beginning the series of public hearings for the you do, we are very.

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Excited about getting to this point and we look forward to your your thoughts.

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Your questions and your comments, and also to those from the public and this.

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Evening, jim spawn from clarion is here with us.

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To give a brief overview of the you do update process thus far and then delve.

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Deeper into chapters 1 & 2, so thank you. Thank you.

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Good evening, council, it's good to see you all. Thank you for having us here.

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Today, as terry mentioned, we are going to excuse me, could you introduce yourself.

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Yes, jim spung with clarion associates, would you are you presenting chapter one.

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Initially, because yeah, I don't think you should combine them, because otherwise.

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You'll be short on time, so yeah so proceed with chapter one. Thank you.

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Okay, okay, so a brief introduction about clearing associates were a national land.

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Use and zoning consulting firm based in denver and we have an office in chapel.

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Hill north carolina, the practice has been around for about 25 years and don.

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Elliott who's, my colleague, was unable to make it today he had a medical.

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Appointment that he couldn't miss, but he sends his regards, but he was one of the founding principles of the firm about 25 years.

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Ago we are fairly small about 20 people and were made up of planners attorneys.

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Landscape, architects and designers- and we really are our core practice area- is.

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Writing and updating zoning codes we've completed about 200 zoning code updates.

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Around the nation in that 25 years with about a 98% adoption rate so been around.

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For quite a while, so to start out, as terry mentioned, I'm going to give a.

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Brief overview of the process generally and then we're gonna dive in a chapter.

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One take a short pause for questions and then we'll move on to it's a chapter. Two.

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So why update the you do I hear you can see a bulleted list of some some goals.

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That were set out initially to to do this project. First and foremost, you have.

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A new comprehensive plan which outlines the vision for the community in the next.

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20 or 30 years, that's really the driving force behind updating your your policies.

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And your rules is to implement that plan and we'll talk a little bit more about.

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That later and there you can see the other bullets here promote, affordable.

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Housing student housing pressures in the city have have grown, have been growing.

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And we'll address that as well promote more sustainable development.

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This is good follow-up discussion from the earlier.

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Presentation about sustainability, improved general user friendliness and.

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Then, to make the development review process more predictable and efficient.

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So those are the general goals that we worked with in updating this document. As.

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Far as the comprehensive plan goes, there are several goals and policies that this.

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New you do addresses, there's a link on the project website. You can see there.

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Where that red arrow is staff, put together a spreadsheet out outlining.

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Which policies and goals were addressed, in which section of the ordinance we.

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Encourage you to look at that as far as the process goes, we began this project.

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In january of 2018, so just about two years ago, and the the first step was.

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Really stakeholder meetings and outreach we came to bloomington, we talked to a.

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Lot of stakeholders and the public and elected and appointed fischels to figure.

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Out you know what what are the primary goals of this project, which we mentioned.

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Earlier the next step was an assessment report where we consolidated all of that.

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Information that we received into a report essentially laying the groundwork.

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In the roadmap for how this update project would would unfold after we had.

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That report ready, we came back to bloomington, made a presentation held a.

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Series of public meetings and then, when everyone bought into that, we started.

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Actually drafting the code, which was deft, step three and we drafted it in three different phases: districts and uses development.

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Standards and the administration and procedures sections for each one of.

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Those we came back to the to bloomington presented the material held another.

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Round of meetings with several stakeholders and elected and appointed.

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Officials, we received a lot of comments. We folded all of those comments into a.

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Consolidated draft, which we again came back and presented in a series of.

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Meetings, we got a lot more comments about things. We incorporated those.

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Comments turned around an adoption draft, which we came back and presented to the.

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Planning commission in august and september got a lot of comments back on.

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That made more revisions and now we're here today, so there's there's been approximately 42 public meetings to date, specifically.

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About this update project, seven plan, commission hearings: you can see the.

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Dates there, and in september the plan commission, you now mele recommended.

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Adoption of the you do so, as was mentioned earlier, there are 12 more.

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Council meetings on the table, we don't know if we'll need all of those meetings.

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But there are several opportunities to to make comment and and revisions if.

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Needed so we wanted to highlight just at a high level a couple of things that we.

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Heard from the planned commission and generally in the process of topics that.

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Were I don't know interesting and that were highly debated among staff and the.

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Public and elected and appointed officials, the duplex triplex four-plex.

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Uses were one of those here. You can see a bulleted list of what the plan.

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Commission decided, as far as the standards for those all of those uses.

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Require conditional use permit a public notice and a public hearing in the.

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Residential zones, existing lots and the are one two and three zones are not.

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Allowed to be subdivided to create more duplex, triplex or four-plex uses.

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Occupancy is limited, there's contextual design requirements.

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For these structures, as well as the bedroom, councilor limited, so you'll dive.

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More into detail on this during the next meeting, which covers chapter 3, the use.

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Regulations but we wanted to bring it to your attention that that was a subject.

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That received a lot of attention here. You can see the use table showing where.

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Duplex triplex and four-plex would be allowed, as proposed in the draft. Those.

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Last three rows on the table: again, I see indicates it would be a conditional use.

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And a p would mean it would be a permitted use. Another topic that came up.

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Was accessory dwelling units this one was was debated among the public. The.

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Planning commission recommends that accessory dwelling units remain a.

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Conditional use throughout the city they would be allowed on any property with a.

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Known occupied single-family or duplex dwelling, you can only have one on a on a lot. They did raise the number of.

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Bedrooms to two from one, as well as the square footage maximum to 840 square.

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Feet and lastly, this draft proposes removing the 300 foot spacing.

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Requirement from the current you do so those are two things we want to bring to.

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Your attention now to shift focus to chapter 1. This is the the general.

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Structure of the new you do, there are seven chapters again we'll be talking.

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About chapters one and two tonight and first is the ordinance foundation.

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There's not a whole lot to talk about here. These are the contents of that.

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Chapter we largely carried forward the content from the current you do and.

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Clarified language we did clarify a lot of language in the transition from prior.

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Regulations section the one of the the important things that the council will.

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Decide is ultimately when the you do is adopted and when it becomes effective.

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And those are two different dates. The adoption date is the actual day of the.

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Hearing where it's adopted, the effective data is the day upon which those rules.

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Become the law to where they're actually used by the community, we typically.

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Recommend a three to six month lag period between the adoption date in the.

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Effective date, this allows staff to update application forms to provide.

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Training to the staff about the new rules to reach out to the development.

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Community to the public- and it's also a testing period to where the staff can.

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Review applications against both the current and the new you do and identify.

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Any areas where the amendments are needed- the planning and transportation.

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Staff anticipate that the effective date will be the same date upon which the.

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Zoning map can the zoning conversion map is adopted, but that's something that the.

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Council can discuss. Another important note is that any petitions that are.

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Submitted between the adoption date in the effective date are reviewed under.

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The the you do that's in effect at that time, so if this new you do has adopted.

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And someone submits a petition the next day. That petition would be reviewed.

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Under the current, you do because that's the one that's in a current effect and.

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Then any approvals that are granted under the old you do are still valid.

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Under this new, you do so regarding the zoning map, we did want to bring this to.

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Your attention, there's, we propose two different phases of zoning map updates.

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The first being a conversion map and that's simply renaming zoning districts.

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From their current name to the new name proposed in the in the new you do this.

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Doesn't include changing the colors of any parcels on the map, it's not rezoning.

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Anything, it's just simply converting them from what they are today to what.

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They will be called in the new draft. The next phase would be a revised owning map.

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So this is where the city and the council would actually consider rezoning.

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Properties to implement the comprehensive plan, there are a number of.

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New zoning districts that we'll talk about tonight that aren't in the menu of.

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Districts currently and they're not mapped anywhere in the city, and that.

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Second phase: the revised zoning map would be an opportunity for the city to.

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Apply those districts on the map so with that, are there any questions on the.

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General overview or chapter one, thank you. Are there questions from council.

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It comes from piedmont, smith. Yes, I have a few questions about the purposes.

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Section, the item number two: it says: promote the public health safety morals.

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Ecosystem services, comfort, convenience in general welfare is this taken from.

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Indiana code or something, why are we saying that we need to promote the.

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Morals of the community, through this document it seems rather strange. I.

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Believe that that's taken from your current, you do, but I'd have to double.

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Check we didn't change a lot of language in this section.

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So that language is carried over from the current you do it's very typical.

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Languages enabling, like language, that's used for his only ordinances. The only.

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Thing that really changed in that section of the code, I believe, is just updating references to our comprehensive plans. So the current you do says the.

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Growth policies plan- I believe this just says the general eliza's it the.

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Comprehensive plan, so those are the type of changes you would see in that section.

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Of chapter one, so there's no legal reason why we have to have that in there.

D

As far as you know, that's a question: I'd have to ask our legal staff. That's a.

N

Pretty standard purpose statement that are used in ordinances for of this kind.

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The general health and safety and welfare of in morals- well, that's that's.

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Again, general language: it's in the current you yell right now, mr. ruppert.

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Was about to jump up, you have something to add. Yes, I do believe that we michael.

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Rooker city attorney for the city of bloomington, I do believe we see that.

M

Language in city codes or excuse me in the state code when it adopts a zoning.

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Ordinance, the legislative body shall act for the purposes of, and then there are a.

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Number of items listed, one of which is promoting the public health safety.

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Comfort, morals, convenience etc. So it's from state law, but does that mean we.

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Have to have it in ours that is an outstanding question. This tracks state.

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Law, so I don't think it makes any difference whether or not we recite it probably, but I'd want to think about that some more okay. Thank you. Customer.

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We drafted a comprehensive plan and it had some very clear directives in it. One.

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Said avoid placing these high-density forms in single-family neighborhoods.

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Referring to duplex triplex four-plex, one said it was important to protect.

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Existing single-family housing stock within this district, the conversion of.

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Dwellings to multifamily and commercial uses should be discouraged at what point.

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Where you could authorize to go away from the comprehensive plan and actually.

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Propose something directly contradictory to this language in the comprehensive.

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Plan nor asking you.

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I can answer that question councilmember, stir bomb, the consultants are taking the.

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Direction from staff and public input- and so this was something that was.

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Proposed from the beginning, there are many goals and policies in the plan that.

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Contradict one another, I do believe that we're talking about chapter 1, this is.

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Something that we'd be happy to discuss at a later time. The chapter 1 is the it.

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Doesn't mean the comprehensive oil in the you do that's that there is not.

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Specific language on flexuz that we're we're talking about, I believe I think.

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You're just asked it just simply references the comprehensive plan.

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So the comprehensive plan: what is the relationship between the comprehensive.

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Plan and the direct is to the consultants I understand I've heard this.

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Said that the comprehensive plan says all kinds of things that are contradictory, this language is very clear. It was a conscious choice to.

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Deviate from the language of the comprehensive plan, I'm asking because of.

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The relationship between the comprehensive plan and the you do, I'm.

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Asking when did this deviation common? Was it our consultants who suggested.

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This was it public input that you say suggested this to happen. Was it the.

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Mayor's office was it planning this again there's language in the plan that.

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Clearly contradicts one another: the plan talks about expanding our housing.

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Choices throughout the community, introducing what we were calling the.

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Middle housing, so that's something that was considered throughout this two-year.

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Process that we talked about with public engagement it at the point at where it's.

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Now again in the presentation, it was pointed out that these uses are being.

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Proposed as conditional, there was also discussion about where they are.

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Appropriate in existing areas of the community, as opposed to new areas again.

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Those things were deliberated and discussed during the plan commission, so.

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I don't believe the characterization that you are describing is a fair.

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Characterization that it's inconsistent with the comprehensive plan. Well, as I.

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Read the comprehensive plan it gave direction where this so this density.

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Could go and where it should not go. It was pretty clear. You know those the.

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References you're referring to are talking about doing centers urban centers on edges on corridors. None nowhere did it.

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Say go into the neighborhoods and it's I'm asked I'm not getting an answer to.

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The question I believe I answered the question again: we directed the public.

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Process and the consultants to utilize that and through feedback and that's.

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That's where it is at this point in time it was something that was clearly.

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Identified in the comprehensive plan as a housing option for us to consider and.

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That's what we did through this process. Thank you.

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Of further questions from council, okay, I had one involving the maps, will fall ya.

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Doubt the you do she described in the spring of 2020. The will take direction.

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From the you do, they'll take direction from the comprehensive plan and will.

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They also at will they evolved from planning. Will the clarion associates.

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Being involved in that and in the drawing of the of the maps and then at.

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What point is the probe? Does the public become involved in feedback regarding.

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The plan of the maps, could you describe that a bit director for planning and.

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Transportation. Thank you for the question. There's a couple points of.

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Clarification, so one of the things that we're required to do by state code is to.

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Notice, every one so as part of that process, it's a little bit different.

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Notification process so like this everybody, every property owner received.

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The postcard in the mail will have to do that with the conversion map, so that.

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Would be step one jim described that process with the conversion map, so.

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That's something that we would do early in 2020 so that we could get the.

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Conversion map, the second step, was the larger. How do we rezone or look at the.

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Other changes, and yes, that would be another step that would have to go.

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Through another noticing requirement, but again we would look at the comprehensive.

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Plan and have public informational meetings, feedback meanings.

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So that we identify those areas, the comprehensive plan does identify some.

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Locations that we should be looking at, you know like the existing hospital site.

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Is one the southwest area of the community of areas to look at so we do.

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Have clarion under retainer to help us through that process? Thank you.

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Further questions from council, okay, seeing none, we will now go to the public.

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If the public would like to speak, you have three minutes per person, and this.

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Is will be on the introduction that you just heard, as well as the ordinance.

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Foundation for the you do, and I would invite you to make any general comments.

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That you have at this time as well regarding the you, do hi minutes near.

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What near west side, I don't need three minutes.

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I just wanted to rise to reaffirm the objection that cristóvão made about the.

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Misalignment between the comprehensive plan and the you do, I don't think that.

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It's fair to characterize this as something that has been widely discussed.

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In public meetings, I've been involved in many of these meetings and it's really.

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Late in the process that that misalignment has been brought up, I'm.

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Particularly concerned about the very definite advice in the comprehensive.

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Plan that we should have polycentric development in the city with small kind.

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Of resale retail areas scattered around the city to serve individual.

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Neighborhoods kind of like what we have at the corner of henderson and highland.

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In multiple places, which would relieve the need for the residents of the city.

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To rely on access to the downtown to the degree that has been obsessively.

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Reinforced in these discussions about the you do, I think it is really.

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Important to resolve that misalignment, I think.

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The public needs to see that happen. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. dorfman, please.

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Step up and you have three minutes so I I have please introduce yourself. I'm.

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Michele henderson I've been I've lived in bloomington for 26 years. I've been.

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Involved in social justice issues around education for about 20 years and I've.

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Been following that I'm gonna speak specifically to the near west side.

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Though I would like to say that, whatever I say about the near west side also.

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Affects bryan park: this is an overview, which is why I'm talking now you're.

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Gonna be hearing obviously from different viewpoints, and I've done a lot.

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Of research about some different viewpoints when it comes to up zoning or.

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Deregulating zoning I have a handout which I thought I might display, but it.

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Looks like I can't display it, so I will be happy to send this handout to.

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Everyone on the city council and, if there's a way to make it public for.

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Everyone who's viewing. Then I would love to do that, but I'm not gonna take time.

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At this moment cuz I have three minutes, so there are several different.

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Viewpoints, one is not in my backyard, not in my backyard is traditionally.

P

Politically conservative, an upper income resident white-collar jobs, they tend to.

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Have larger houses, four plus bedrooms, plus three plus bathrooms, often 2,000.

P

Plus square feet on large lots from half acre to an acre, the price range could be.

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From three hundred to a thousand to over, the price range of that house could be.

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From three hundred thousand to over a million dollars in bloomington.

P

They are generally lacking in diversity. Their neighborhood schools tend to be.

P

Less than 15 percent free and reduced when senators- and I can if I could.

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Interrupt you, it looks like we couldn't, can display that if it would be helpful.

P

P

They tend to be lacking in diversity, they have a moat they're, often older.

P

White men neighborhoods have covenants and homeowner associations they're.

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Protected from upzoning, they support an agenda of traditional family values.

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They're motivated to organize when they feel their neighborhood values are.

P

Threatened by outsiders, so the goal is to keep their keep low-income people out.

P

Of my neighborhood, this is the traditional way of looking at a nimby or.

P

A not in my backyard, yes in my backyard you'll be hearing from, but I'm not.

P

Really seeing them here tonight, it's a political intersection of neoliberals.

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Libertarians and conservatives, including donald trump todd, young and trey,.

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Hollingsworth they tend to be upper income residents, tech, business, real.

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Estate development, real estate development, investment in sales, they.

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Tend to have rentals in urban core they're generally high, rent and they're.

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Protected by gentrification from changing and zoning they're lacking in.

P

Diversity they're, mostly white, younger men, neighborhoods, are urban and schools.

P

Are not taken into account due to youth of activists, they support an agenda of.

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National and international developers who have donated millions to both.

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Republican and democratic campaigns to d to deregulate zoning, they are motivated.

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To organize by a lack of housing for young professionals, the goal is to.

P

Increase density into increasing density will increase housing supply and will.

P

Trickle down to low-income residents over the next 20 to 30 years, new green.

P

Buildings will help the environment by reducing carbon footprint in the next 10.

P

To 30 years I want to speak for already in my backyard, miss anderson, I'm afraid.

A

Sorry, your three minutes has expired, but I think that this might apply for you.

A

Know your next comment: if you were willing to wait until chapter 2, I will.

P

We could continue and then I will speak to already in my back.

P

Yard very good. Thank you. Is there further public comment? This is.

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On introduction, and or in chapter one, which is the ordinance foundation but.

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You may speak generally about the you do if you care to okay, seeing no other.

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Public comment up: do we have public comment and I forgot to mention if you.

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Would please sign in when you add, when you're at the podium? That would be.

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Helpful to the clerk for the minutes, I'm a little late, so this might be redundant.

Q

My name is ed bernstein. I was at the other meetings of the.

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Planning, commission- and this seems like a deja vu all over again.

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I first I take umbrage of the fact that I live in elm heights that we are you.

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Know: white bread, right-wingers, I've been a progressive, my whole life, I'm 75 years.

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Old, this seems to be a generational issue. Many of us moved into these areas.

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My house was a pit and you know we spent much of our lives, refinishing them and.

Q

Getting them better, I don't think destroying core.

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Neighborhoods is gonna. Do anything I think the young people who were.

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Supporting this, I I appreciate the idealism, but I think they're not looking.

Q

At the total picture and many of the in neighborhoods in bryant park, the.

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Westside we're a disaster area in the 80s, and you know people work very hard.

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To bring those things up, I think this is very, very short-sighted. I think we have.

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To look at the long term, I think there are a lot of areas. We're gonna have this.

Q

Hospital torn down, I have a studio in south bloomington that I can get to on.

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My bicycle in fifteen minutes from the center of.

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Downtown there's plenty of land there for having these triplexes quadrille.

Q

Plexus you're gonna destroy this town and, as I used to tell my students, you're.

Q

Gonna throw the baby out with the bathwater. Thank you. Thank you. Mr.

A

Bernstein for the public comment: okay, we're back to council then for comment.

A

Who would like to anyone like to comment.

A

Council member mr. bone mapping is part of what we just talked about in this.

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First, chapter also, isn't it well? Yes, during the introduction it was touched.

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Upon so it's yes, if you'd like to make a comment about that, I really don't have.

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Any more comments on section one: okay, council, member piedmont, smith; yes, I'm.

D

Just looking at the purpose section in in chapter one, I think that we can we.

D

Should add? Reduction of greenhouse gas emissions and preparation for climate.

D

Change impacts in our community as one purpose of this ordinance, because that.

D

Has certainly become a front and center for city government and it should be.

D

Front and center for everybody's plans for how our community develops in the.

D

Future so I'll be proposing an amendment to add that to the purpose section I.

D

Don't think we should be regulating moral side, that's a minor thing, but I.

D

Think that should come out. I also don't understand why we have. We call out on.

D

Number 19 and purposes we call out the sexually oriented businesses. I mean.

D

There are a lot of things that might have negative zoning impacts if you live.

D

Right next door to it, why are we calling out sexually oriented businesses just.

D

Seems like why should we highlight that it doesn't make much sense to me? I.

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Understand that it was carried forward from the previous, but hey it's an opportunity to clean up and make it a little more logical. So those.

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Are just a couple things I'm thinking of for the purposes section, and then I just.

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Wanted to agree with with mr. robinson that I I don't see that some of the.

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Changes proposed by the comprehensive plan, and by this you do go against the.

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Comprehensive plan, I think the comprehensive plan had some internal.

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Inconsistencies, but I think the overall thrust of it was to really create more.

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Housing we had, we had a big section at the front of the comprehensive plan, saying we need more housing, and- and so I think that this this you do and some.

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Some of the more controversial segments to try to do that, so I I would disagree.

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With um councilmember stir bomb on that, but we'll have plenty of time to talk about that and to hear from from you all about.

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Those issues later, thank you. Thank you further and we'll open this up to.

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Questions as well, because I neglected for a second round of questions. If.

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Anybody has a question: okay, seeing none, then we'll just go back to comments and.

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Councilman roland, I think, was next yeah. First of all, I'm having a little trouble.

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Setting up the timer for the four minute limit for debate I'll try to get that.

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Done I've set it up for myself, I have a very vivid memory of debating pud and.

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Arguing about where cars should be parked in front of a certain building.

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And I invoked chapter 6 of the gpp, which was very clearly titled. It's called.

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Mitigate traffic uncontroversial, we should be mitigating automobile traffic.

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Go back and read: chapter 6 of the gp be very clear, thorough. The entire chapter.

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Not little pieces of it, so I have a problem with anyone concentrating on a.

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Line in a paragraph in a section in a chapter and that over everything else.

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I remember also at the time very clearly councilmember mayor saying in his public.

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Comments on the issue that the comprehensive or the gpp was just a plan.

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That we don't have to follow what slavishly we don't have to follow. It.

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Every letter- and I never forgot that so here we are now questioning the.

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Relationship of the plan to the code and I'm like why the double standard I think.

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That this is a constant negotiation. The reason that we're here right now is.

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Because it's not simply a matter of the plan commission hearing at the council.

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Estera to take into concerns of all the aspects of the city- and I would you know.

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Ask everyone for indulgence as we navigate and negotiate the.

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Implementation of this plan. Thank you councillor, mr. bowman. Yes, I.

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Just do affirm that the comprehensive plan was a community document. These.

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Chairs were filled when we were doing that. There are plenty of witnesses to.

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How that comprehensive plan went- and I remember it very clearly- and I did not.

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Recognize some of the ideas that came at came later simply didn't didn't see it.

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Coming don't know where it came from and didn't see it in the plan and it and.

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While you can find a lot in this plan, some of it is very clear, and there is no.

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Clear directive to put these in the neighborhoods. Thank you, councilmember.

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Simms. Thank you. um This is more of a comment and I'll go through this much.

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More thorough and more than we already have- and many of us have done this.

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Hardin ad nauseam, but what I didn't see and we've talked a lot about periodic.

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Reviews we've also said this will be a document that may last for the next two.

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Decades but we've also talked about periodic reviews every three to five.

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Years of whatever- and I didn't- and maybe I've missed it, but I didn't see that.

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Listed anymore, the concept of that is that's something that.

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We thinks need to be part of the document or the something that will be.

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Initiated by counsel or initiated by a staff or or am I just blowing in the.

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Wind did you want to propose the question to staff sir, make it a question.

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Okay, mr. robertson, would you like to respond? Yes, our intent is. This is a.

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Three-Ring binder- and you know we'll it shouldn't- be set in stone for the next.

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20 years, it's something that will continually look at and amend and revise.

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As needed, you know, I think the current you do it was last adopted in 2007. It's.

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Been laying around for a long time, and we need to do a better job of making.

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Sure we're addressing the needs of the community a more frequent basis and will.

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That be referenced at some point. I want to do that, but I also would like to.

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Avoid in the future, where we hold up a document as ten years old- and you know.

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Like that's carved in concrete are not able to be discussed or a defense or one.

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Or the other just a normal review, because things will change.

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I believe, since it is an ordinance, we would not be advisable to put that in.

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Within the ordinance, but it is, I think you do to acknowledge that in a adoption.

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Process, but it probably would not be advisable to have that within the actual ordinance itself. Okay and we can legislate morals in our document. But we.

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Can't legislate when we want to review this. Thank you. Councillor, voland yeah,.

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You know the 2002 gpp was also a community document. It was also debated.

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By everyone in the community, it's just that councillor servo and I weren't in.

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The room when it was passed, the 1991 gpp, was also a community document, so I kind.

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Of don't by this logic also, I would remind everyone that a vote of six.

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Members of this body can do almost anything with respect to the.

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Law, we can suspend rules, we can reopen questions, we can and we have done so.

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That's by state law, that's by necessity, very very, very few things require.

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Unanimity, so even when it comes to revising this document, the I mean this.

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Document by state law has to go through the most rigorous process, but it's so as.

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To discourage change, but you know the planning of transportation is saying we.

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Should be revising it a little bit more often than once, every 18 years, they're.

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Right about that, but we should not be afraid to reopen any given question within a document whenever we see fit. We all just know how.

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Much work it takes to do an overhaul this and nobody wants to do it. That.

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Often, but that's it. Thank you. Thank you further comments. I have one I guess I'll.

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Address the debate between councillors, tyrone councilmember fallin, I was.

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Involved in the comprehensive plan- and it was my understanding that the type of.

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Densities that are referred to as and perhaps occurring within this current.

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You do draft implies within neighborhoods and the comprehensive plan.

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My interpretation of it is that it speaks about neighbor to neighborhood.

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Edges as transition zones, not within neighborhoods now it's true that it's.

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Conditional use for plexus, but that the approval will depend upon the.

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Disposition of the planning staff to the to the plan commission to the bca and so.

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I think that that is, I think it presents a hazard for the four neighborhoods put.

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It that way and I'll elaborate a bit more later. So if there's no other.

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Comment then, we are ready to proceed on to chapter 2.

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Zoning districts and you have 20 minutes for presentation.

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Okay way to get up there, so thank you counsel,.

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You waiting for slides, yeah, we'll start as soon as the slides appear.

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There we go so the next chapter is chapter 2. This one is addressing the.

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Zoning districts: this is the contents of that chapter. You can see. There are.

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General introductory language about zoning districts generally and then.

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There are four or three sections regulated to residential districts.

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Mixed-Use districts non-residential districts, a section regarding pud s and.

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Then overlay districts, we're not gonna, spend a whole lot of time. Diving into.

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The details I did fail to mention that you all should have received the summary.

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Memo of all the significant changes in the draft, I encourage you to go back and.

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Read that document as it provides a 12 page overview, which is still a pretty.

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High level of the changes in this chapter but I'll talk about a few of.

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Those today so generally, we we've presented this information in a new.

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Format and organization that we think is a little bit more user-friendly than.

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Than the current you do, you can see on the left page there there's a clear.

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Purpose statement and illustrative graphic showing the general character of.

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Each district on the right-hand side is a table of dimensions generally for the.

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Lot and buildings, as well as a graphic, to help provide a visual for how those.

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Dimensions relate to the lot, so we think this is a pretty intuitive way for the.

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Public to understand what they're, seeing in the document, so a high level for some.

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Of the significant changes we've introduced for new zoning districts, the.

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R 1 r 4 m s and p o districts to help implement the comprehensive plan. The r 1.

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District is a large lot residential district that helps fill a gap in your.

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Current code, right now, the largest slot size in the the you do is about 110,000.

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Square feet: the next smallest is 8,000 square feet, so that r1 is a 20,000.

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Square foot lot intended to fill that transition a little bit easier. The r for.

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District is a small lot residential district. That's intended to be for more.

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Urban infill type uses your a lot of the peds that have been approved in the past.

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Are in the five four five six thousand square foot range which you currently.

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Don't allow in your current lineup of districts, so the r4 would.

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Produced that the ms is the mixed. You student housing district, that we'll talk.

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About in detail in a couple of slides and p, oh as a parks and open space.

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Districts that, as a district solely intended for parks and open space, the.

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Next, three bullets address dimensional standards, which you'll probably get more.

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Into in the development standards section of the code generally, we've.

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Reduced minimum lot sizes lot widths, impervious areas for more efficient and.

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Sustainable development, the the current minimum lot sizes in bloomington are.

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Pretty large, most of them are one to two acres and when you're developing in a.

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Infill site, if you have one building on two acres, everything is spread out, which.

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Encourages sprawl and driving and nothing is closed and it's difficult to.

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Walk to and it's very expensive, to buy two acres to have to build a building so.

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Those things were adjusted again. The memo provides a narrative related to.

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That and then lastly, the height limits that were adopted by the council in 2017.

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For the downtown still applied to student, housing and dormitory uses, but.

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The heights that were previous to that we've reintroduced into the code as for.

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The downtown areas we've also updated the pud qualifying criteria so.

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Bloomington has seen a fair share of pud development and I think this is a sign.

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That your current code doesn't work for what the market needs. We think we've.

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Addressed that with the new lineup of districts and the new standards introduced into the draft, so we were proposing to narrow the gate by which.

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Someone can request a pud, and here you can see the bullets of what what someone.

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Would need to comply with in order to qualify to have a pud district. The real.

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Intent there is that it's it's a negotiated district and the city should.

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Really be receiving something much more but much better than they could.

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Otherwise, build under the base zoning districts and there has to be some clear.

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Benefit to the city, so the mixed use. Student housing district is a new.

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District that we've introduced, we one of the first things that we heard when we.

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Got here during the assessment phase was student housing.

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It's a big challenge in bloomington being a university town. There are a lot.

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Of students there's a huge demand for building student housing. This was.

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Primarily, the the reason why that height limit was adopted for the downtown is to.

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Help limit really big scale student housing projects in areas of the city.

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That you didn't want those projects and this new mix, new student housing.

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District is really intended to allow those big projects in the areas that you.

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Do want them, as outlined in the comprehensive plan adjacent to campus.

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Along underdeveloped commercial corridors in areas that are well served.

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By transit, really, this district is aimed at providing that use in those areas to.

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Reduce the market pressures in the other areas of the city, the downtown, the core.

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Neighborhoods and so on, just like the we talked about with the.

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Zoning map, the ms district is a new zone, so it's not being mapped as part of the.

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Conversion map that will be part of the discussions when the city evaluates the.

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Rezoning that will be proposed, so another important element of this is.

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We've also defined student housing and dormitory as a use as a specific use.

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Right now, it's folded into the multifamily category, which makes it.

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Really challenging to to regulate and to monitor and to limit where student.

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Housing goes and where you want traditional multi-family housing to go.

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So student housing is defined as any building or structure. That's multifamily.

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That has units with four or more bedrooms, and it's it's not very common.

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That you see a four-bedroom apartment building in a in a non university town.

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And here you see five bedroom apartment units and those things typically are.

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Occupied by students, in addition, any building where more than 33% of the.

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Units are 3-bedroom, so if you have a building with all three bedroom units.

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It's probably going to be tailored to students and then, lastly, if you have a.

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Shared hallway or common area for bathroom and cooking areas, that's.

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Probably more like a dormitory that would fall into this category, so we'd.

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Like to reiterate that, because, just because there's a student, housing or.

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Dormitory zone doesn't mean that's the only place. That's allowed.

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That's where the big stuff is allowed. You can see on the bottom. There there's.

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A table showing where student, housing and dormitory uses are permitted.

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Throughout the city, you can see they're allowed in the rm zone as a conditional.

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Use or age all the mixed use zones, except for the employment district, so.

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They are allowed in several areas of the city, but there there are limitations and.

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This table helps represent what those are we've introduced: maximum floorplate.

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Areas so you can build student housing in downtown, but it can only be on a.

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10,000 square-foot floor plate, which is relatively small and I'll, show a graphic.

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On the next slide of what that is, you're, also limited in how high you can.

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Build these projects in areas outside of this new mixed view, student housing.

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District, so it's not discouraging it everywhere, it's encouraging it where you.

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Want it to be, we've also introduced a 300 foot spacing requirement, which is.

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About the size of a city block in the downtown here you can see a graphic just.

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To help visualize how big these things may be there, you can see a 5,000 square.

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Foot footprint 1020 the 300 foot length and there you can see the smallwood.

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Project is about 54,000 square foot, floor plate and it's the size of an.

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Entire block, so so we think that this is a strategy to help the city move forward.

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An allowing student housing, but really focusing it in the areas that that it.

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Makes the most sense in this new district helped achieve that? In addition,.

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It's important to note that the dimensional tables throughout this chapter referenced neighborhood transitions. This is really important for.

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The neighborhoods to understand that, even though they may be adjacent to a.

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Commercial property or a multi-family zone that the projects that are built.

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Next to them have to respect the scale of that adjacent neighborhood. So here.

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You can see a single-family home if it's a if any new development, that's adjacent.

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To the re, 1, 2, 3 or 4 districts have to meet these transition standards. If.

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You're within 50 feet of that single-family zone, you can only build to.

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The maximum height of the residential zone that you're next the next 50 feet. You can go up one more story and beyond that you can go up as.

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High as as the district would allow otherwise, so this is really intended to.

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Help eliminate those towering multifamily or student housing projects.

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Right next to a residential, neighborhood or commercial property, so affordable.

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Housing was also a huge priority of this code update, and we think that this.

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Chapter is probably one of the most important in implementing the affordable.

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Housing goals and initiatives in the inset in the development standards.

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Chapter you'll talk about the incentives for building affordable housing, but.

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There are a lot more indirect ways that you can encourage: affordable housing. We.

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Think that this new student housing strategy with having a district and a.

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Use will help relieve pressures on other forms of housing throughout the the city.

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The new r4 district, which allows for a four thousand square foot lot, would help.

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Provide more affordable housing to folks, it may not be deed restricted, but.

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Because you're building on smaller lots and they're smaller homes, they're likely.

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To be at a lower price point than would otherwise be for a seven or eight.

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Thousand square foot lot again reducing the minimum lot sizes for multifamily.

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And mixed-use from the two acre minimum to, I think five thousand square feet.

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Allows for small-scale projects that don't require huge investments that then.

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Carry over into leasing fees or sales prices, and then lastly, we've removed the.

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The dwelling unit per acre maximums in the mixed use districts instead of.

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Having a density cap we've defined what the building envelope size is, there's a.

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Maximum height there are setbacks, there's parking standards, landscaping.

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Requirements, those things inevitably control, how many, how big the building is.

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And how many units can fit inside and by removing that an arbitrary density.

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Maximum allows the market to dictate. You know what what a site can actually.

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Accommodate for units, so that's the conclusion of our presentation. If you.

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Have questions? Thank you. We will go to questions from council, beginning with.

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Counsel, mr. rome, one of the issues with a tea use was they weren't fitting on.

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Lots and did the revision of the are three small lot have an effect on making.

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Those ad use fit into existing lots better.

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Was there any adjustment in surface coverage or setbacks or anything? I.

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Understood there were some changes made to make the ad use easier to place on.

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Lots is that factual, so a couple of responses there so that your furniture.

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The are three lot size there are made some adjustments to those lot sizes.

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Right have anything to do with allowing the it used to fit better. The change in.

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Minimum lot size so the issue with the ad use that we have had and was reported.

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At our one year, one year report to this body after they were added to the you, do.

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Indicated that a lot of ad you requests are immediately shut down, because the.

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Lots don't mean minimum lot size which is a requirement, so I think that's what you're talking about so. Yes, the changing the lot sizes.

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Lowering that lot size does bring quite a few, a large majority of the lots into.

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Compliance of lot size so would allow for more lots to be accessible, and I.

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Have those numbers just not on me right the second, but we can get them to you.

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Thank you, follow-up after somebody else asks question. Customer granger have you.

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Sent these slides to us and if you have not, could you yeah we'll have staff.

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Provide the the slides they'll be posted on the website. I would like to receive.

J

Them, if that's okay, yeah! Thank you absolutely come summer. Piedmont, smith,.

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Yeah, could you speak a little to the re zoning district and what the purpose of.

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It is sure so the re is the residential estate district. It's a current district.

L

That bloomington has it's fairly common to have that large scale. It's the the.

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Minimum lot size is 2.5 acres, so it's a large estate lot that typically find on.

L

The fringes or in rural areas, we carried that district forward because you have.

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Properties that are currently zoned re and we didn't want to change that.

L

I mean you, I don't know. If that's your question is why you have it it's because.

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We we carried it forward because you have existing property, zoned re, the.

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Purpose statement for that district is here says intended to provide.

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Residential development on large lots, while allowing for limited agricultural.

L

And civic uses. Yes, I see that I'm just wondering do we expect to have new lots.

D

That meet this requirement because it seems like a not an urban lot size. I.

D

Mean it doesn't make sense to add more lots of that sort unless it is to.

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Conserve sensitive environmental features, so I wondering if we could add.

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That the purpose must it include conservation of environmental features.

L

That that could be the case. I would imagine that any any request for.

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Planning and rezoning to this district would come before the council, so that's.

L

Something that you would see if, if someone intended to create new lots under this district again, this may be something that you evaluate when you.

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Revise the zoning map in that second phase of map, updates that you maybe.

L

Reconsider rezoning those re properties to something else if it's supported by.

L

Those property owners and the council, but I think it would be tough to require.

L

Conservation in that district, it would probably be through the subdivision tool.

L

That you would require that which, which is viable. I also noticed that the.

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Impervious surface coverage maximum for the district in the new you do is twenty.

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Percent, whereas in the old you do it's fifteen percent, why has it been crit.

D

Increased I'd have to go back and look at my notes. I don't know exactly right.

L

Now, okay! Well, I would I would like an answer to that. Mr. robertson, do you have.

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Oh yeah, I think I can address the impervious surface if you look back at.

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One of the earlier versions there was commentary included in the sections that.

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Talked about some of the changes, those are posted on the planning. You know the.

N

You do website, there is a section that talks about the impervious surface, so.

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Generally, those were increased to help address some of the infill issues and.

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Balancing that need for flexibility in regards to the re district again, we just.

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Kind of looked at all those and evaluating that there has been some.

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Changes into the lot development standards on buffer yards and other.

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Things so that's something we can talk about later. Jim did talk about chapter 5,.

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The subdivisions, so there is a conservation subdivision, so that would be a process to look at. This could be a district that could be applied when.

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During that subdivision process, another thing that's could be out there in the.

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Future, if the city were to annex areas outside the current boundaries, there's.

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We have to apply the best fit of that land to what we have now so again. It.

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Would might be a possibility that this zone could be a good receptor for if we.

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Were to annex any other areas outside the city comes more vohland. Yes, in the.

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First, you do. We made an effort to regulate the kind of housing that.

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Students preferred by increasing the d ue ratio where, before 2006, a 3-bedroom.

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Of 4-bedroom, more fiber to munich counted as one dwelling unit equivalent.

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We raised it to 1 five and two respectively and we lower.

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The count for smaller than three-bedroom units can you explain the notion of this.

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Envelope and how it differs from it like. What's the practical upshot of replacing.

G

The dv formulas, with building footprint, replaced with a few things. One of them.

L

Is the new student housing use that's defined in the table, as specifically.

L

That targeting that those projects that were you know intended martiai integer.

G

And it for students- and I think, the the challenge with the d: u conversion rates.

L

Is that it polluted the multifamily use that was on the books and did it it.

L

Didn't seem to really be achieving its intent and purpose, because you were.

L

Still seeing a lot of these large student housing projects and most of.

L

These were coming through pu ds, which is separate from the zoning, but to answer.

L

Your question about the building envelope its there are. There are several.

L

Development standards that a developer would have to meet to meet the code and.

L

A lot of those are height. You know you can only build four storeys five storeys.

L

The setbacks so that automatically and closes an envelope of how large a.

L

Building can be in some cases, you have to provide parking which takes up space.

L

On the lot, which will shrink the building landscaping, buffers which again.

L

Takes up space, there's impervious surface maximums which reduces how much space you can build on the lot. So when you factor in.

L

All of those things together, there's there's an envelope or a space in which.

L

The developer would have to figure out how many units he can fit in that in.

L

That building, as well as the definitions for multifamily and student housing, so.

L

We think that those controls allow a lot more flexibility in the market, rather.

L

Than having an artificial maximum density, because density is very.

L

Difficult to visualize, you can have you know a 75 d, you project, that's.

L

Townhouses or a seven-story building, it just depends on how big the lot is with.

L

Regard to that, so it's it's difficult to regulate the product just purely on a.

L

Density metric, thank you ivan for later sure. Before we go on to council is.

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There anyone who hasn't asked the question who would like to okay, I'm.

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Gonna ask question before council murr mr. baum. It had to do with the size and.

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Spacing standards for student housing has that template been used in other.

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Cities with large student populations or something similar that we that I could.

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Research that I could look at to see if that's been effective or is this.

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Something novel from I think it's both it bloomington is unique and that it's.

L

It's different than most places, but don elliott. My colleague has drafted a lot.

L

Of zoning codes for college towns and I would defer to him to provide you.

L

References we can get back to you, okay, you've, really that, because there's some.

A

Examples would be really instructive, so we'll go to councilmembers turbo yeah. So.

I

The residential district r4 is not mapped, it has a lot of density in it. It.

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Looks like a tool that is ready to be used, and my question is: did you design.

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That for the city of bloomington, or is that in our four zone that you pulled.

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Out of your bag of zones and and brought it here with some experience in other.

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Communities and the rest of that is where do you anticipate that zone going.

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Is it going to go on greenfield? Is it going to fit on reid of ruiz owned.

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Commercial land, or do you see it going into the single-family neighborhoods.

I

Okay, so the first part of the question is: it: is a zone drafted for bloomington.

L

We didn't pull it from a different area that I mean there are a lot of cities.

L

That have small residential lot zones, just like the r4, but they vary in their.

L

Size some cities go all the way down to almost 3,200 square foot, lots which we.

L

Think is a little too small to fit infrastructure and house and things.

L

Other cities are more comfortable with a 8,000 square foot as their smallest lot.

L

Size, so it really depends on the the intent of the city. We think that this.

L

Zone fits here well because you've already got a menu of districts that.

L

Help compliment this district and, as I mentioned earlier, a lot of the.

L

Pud development that bloomington has been approving would fit into this zone.

L

Without having to do a pud, which is really the intent of creating this.

L

District is to allow the smaller lots that are having to go through this pud.

L

Process because you don't have a tool today to accommodate those those types.

L

Of land-uses, as far as where it's going to go, that's.

L

Really up to the council to decide it's not maps, I think a good candidate, maybe.

L

Portions of the old hospital site could potentially be rezone darfur.

L

Could be greenfield development or peds that transition to to some other.

L

Developments so I guess it's to be determined by the market and what? What.

L

Is proposed to the council- and I don't know if it's appropriate to ask at this.

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Point but the residential multifamily has been five unrelated for as long as I.

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Can remember- and there are a lot of uses that I think you described in the rm.

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Zone student student: what are those called student dorms? You.

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Know a lot of fairly radical up zoning in the rm zone and there hasn't been.

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Much discussion to that- and maybe that's section three, but could you talk a.

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Little about rem yeah so regarding student, housing and dormitories.

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Specifically in the rm zone, as I showed on this slide, those would be limited to.

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A 5,000 square foot footprint and they would be limited to three storeys, so I'm.

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Not saying that's not a substantial structure, but when you factor in if they.

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Are adjacent to neighborhoods they've got to meet these neighborhood.

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Transition standards, so we feel that that's a fairly reasonable compromise to.

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Allow these uses in in areas where it makes sense and at a scale that it makes.

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Sense, generally, okay, that's time, further, questions from council comes from.

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Piedmon smith, yes, I'm in the the rm zone. If there is a single-family duplex.

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Triplex or four-plex in those zones the chart says it's to be.

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Held to r22 standards, and I'm wondering why, since.

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It's in an rm zone. Why wouldn't it be held to one of the more dense standards.

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Like r3, or even their reasoning behind that yeah, let me go there real, quick, so.

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Typically, if, if you're, building a single-family, duplex triplex or a.

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Four-Plex structure, it's gonna be a different scale and character. Then it.

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Would be if it were a multi-family building, so it's common to default to a.

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Single-Family district that would typically accommodate those uses and.

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Rely on those standards, I think in the original draft, the consulting team.

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Recommended that they meet the r3 or r4 standards and that the staff responded.

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And said no we'd like it to be r2, so so maybe the mr. robinson maybe can reply.

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As to why that was services manager, um well, the idea of having that separate.

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Section there was, we often have issues now it was supposed to be four lots that.

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Exists now that our single family, or have, though, that's how the idea came.

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About like right now, when we have single-family designed lots in our.

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Current rm zoning district they often are very small and have trouble meeting.

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The requirements, so if they want to do a small addition or something, then they.

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Have to get a variance because they basically don't match the wider setbacks.

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That are included in the rm, so that is kind of why we wanted to go with the. Why.

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We wanted to go with having it be a separate single-family design criteria.

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For those lots, I think we're open to if you would like.

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Them to be smaller lots, we found that r2 was roughly kind of the type of lot that.

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We have had that we have seen so far that exists now in those in those rm.

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Districts, obviously, that could change with the remapping, but addressing the.

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Issues that we have now we artoo was a good magic leave. Okay, thank.

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You for clarification, since I didn't understand that at all.

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Clarification, I suppose I'm sorry. I just.

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So the reason to have the separate use is to have this separate design.

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Standards for the single family is that to hold them to the multifamily design.

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Standards, particularly the setbacks, has right now. It's burdensome for single.

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Family lots that already exist in the rme soni. It's cumbersome, no, no to have a.

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Single family law in the rm zoning district, where it's just one house and.

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You want to do some sort of addition: the setbacks of your zoning, which is our m.

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Don't really match your use properly, and so this was a way to address that so.

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That those lots could continue on. You know that they can continue on, but not.

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Necessarily have to get rezone, for example, if they're in the middle you.

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Know of a doughnut of multifamily and there are old, single family lots in that.

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Area that they can continue on a single family and be able to do small additions.

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Or up keeps that they traditionally wouldn't be able to do if they were in.

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An art or an r3, even though they're in an rm, does that make sense a little more.

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Okay I'll work on it and get you some a better answer, all right council, mr. baum.

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If you have further questions, there's a second opportunity after public comment.

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Other questions continuing with questions you'd like to.

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Continue please.

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So the rm aged the residential manufactured homes, wood, wood that.

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District or any other that is proposed, make it possible to have like a tiny.

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Home village, in the city- yes, so that's addressed in chapter 3, which is the use.

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Regulations there's a use, type called cottage development and that's.

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Essentially, what you're describing it's? It's one lot where you have individual.

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Households that aren't manufactured homes or maybe are that are assembled around a common area. You can read the definition for, for.

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College development, but that use type does exist and it is allowed in all of.

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The residential zones, except for the ar ii, and it's also allowed an mn as a.

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Conditional use and there are specific design standards associated. Thank you.

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Other questions, seeing none we'll go to the public now, and this is on chapter 2,.

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Zoning districts, but you can speak generally about the you do as well. Hi.

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I'm greg alexander and please remember, to sign in ok after after your coming so.

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Kind of a review of how we got this place before world war two hundred years.

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Ago, 150 years ago, we built everything on grids and I don't have any idea how that.

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Happened but it did happen, it was very regular development and then after world.

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War: two: the development changed very radically and people started building.

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Mazes as a cold attacks off of highways and at some point it was decided to.

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Introduce zoning to try to regulate that process and that's almost completely.

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Failed on the southwest and southeast sides of the town, approximately 50.

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Percent of the land area is a planned unit development and so we're not.

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Following our zoning code and these plan union developed planned unit development.

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Sar very any place. Usa, there they're a cul-de-sac network that it was just what.

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Was built in that time and they're very unwalkable in particularly they're.

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Almost impossible to serve with transit and they're intrinsically segregated if.

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You live in one neighborhood, you're, not going to see people from the other.

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Neighborhood, unless you're on the common street, which and it's a highway, you know.

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And that common street, of course, doesn't have sidewalks. I wouldn't be me if I didn't say that, and it's very hard to support that kind of network, and it.

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Tends to be low density, and so what I'm asking is we should probably do away.

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With planned unit development entirely, it has been used almost exclusively as.

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A tool to allow inside the city, you know the core, extremely high density and so.

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We should allow that high density by right in all of the core, especially the.

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Commercial, the downtown the mixed-use, the student oriented areas we shouldn't.

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Be requiring people to come for variance for things that are just absolutely.

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Normal developments, the way that we've been building for the last 50 years, you.

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Shouldn't need a variance for, and if you look at, you know that the ring around.

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The town of peds is just it's: it's devastating for a transportation.

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Perspective and we just we shouldn't, you know it says innovative and imaginative.

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And they're, not none of the beauties. We have our innovative, our magic tip. The.

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Two that are are it's called south done street and then that development south.

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Of hopscotch on the beeline and those are basically compatible with our four.

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So if you put take from this proposal and put our four in a lot more places.

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That would really do a lot to make sure we don't need these plan. You know.

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Developments but I want to say at this plan, especially this part of the plan.

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It's moving in the right direction. Thank you very much. Thank you. I'm elizabeth.

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Cox- and I wonder scott- is there any way you can put the timing thing up, so I.

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Can see what my time is well hope I can do this fast 30 seconds and a beep when.

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Your time is done ready. Okay, first of all, I am concerned about affordable.

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Housing and I really think that this density is not going to work for.

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Affordable housing we're going to lose a lot of our owner-occupied original.

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Affordable housing to this density, if you, if you look at habitat for humanity,.

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You don't see multiplexes and you don't see big tall things and.

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Just certain amount of rental in there they're all single-family housing.

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And to allow this density, I think, is going to be horrible for the core.

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Neighborhoods and what we already have, if you have a little house, that you.

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Bought for a hundred thousand you'd put three and a half percent down thirty.

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Five hundred or five thousand down for buying that house and you could finance.

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It for thirty years, say five years down the road. You want to build an adu for.

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Your child or grandchild to help you out living in the house say that adu is a.

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Hundred thousand so now your unit is two hundred thousand twenty years down the.

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Road, you have to go in a nursing home and you want to sell that to that child.

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Or grandchild that helps you out in that ad, you first of all the nursing home is.

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Going to require you to have a current appraisal and say the value because they.

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Consider it commercial with that rental unit, six hundred thousand! So now your.

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Child or grandchild is going to have to put thirty percent down. You know what 30.

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Percent of six hundred thousand is one hundred. Eighty thousand that's to.

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Finance it then you'll have to pay for twenty years instead of 30 years and.

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Your rates going to be a half percent to a percent higher you've lost that.

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Affordability, your child or grandchild is not going to be able to afford that.

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Because who has a hundred eighty thousand dollars for down payment on.

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Something like that, so it automatically you lose that house with it say to you.

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And an investor is going to invest in it. They're not gonna, put affordability on.

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It they won't rent it out at market rate, so.

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You've lost that, and that is what I am scared to death. That will happen with.

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This density, so please have a care, don't allow these densities in these core.

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Neighborhoods. Thank you. Thank you for your comment.

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Hello, I'm michelle henderson. I would just like to briefly recap: you will be.

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Hearing from arguments there are people who are in support of changing the.

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Zoning from single-family housing to multi-family housing, I'd like to clarify.

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For everyone who's watching, this is citywide every single neighborhood in.

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Our entire city will be zoned multi-family housing. There are people.

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Who disagree with this? Some of them have been called nimbys, not in my backyard.

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They are often in higher income neighborhoods. Some people who are.

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Arguing for it have called have been called yummy's. Yes, in my backyard, build.

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More build more increased density. We think it will help with affordability.

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The fact is this: the neighborhoods, who will be most impacted by this policy.

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Which is a radical policy which we haven't even seen anything in the herald.

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Times about it, by the way will in fact will impact core neighborhoods downtown.

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I call those already in my backyard: they tend to be lower-income residents.

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Young renters, who work downtown or on campus and service jobs, single women, iu.

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Students, fixed income residents, artists, entrepreneurs, iu and city staff, the.

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Houses are already small and dent. The lots are dense. Standard size is a.

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2-Bedroom 1-bath, with around a thousand to 1,400 square feet on small lots from.

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Sixteenth of an acre to even an eighth of an acre because they've already many.

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Of them have been substitute, already, have been divided and are already half.

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Lots of what was already a small lot, the neighborhood schools are more than.

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Eighty percent free and reduced lunch fair view, for example, is 86 percent free.

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And reduced lunch neighborhood school and it is a.

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Low-Income neighborhood, these neighborhoods, are very diverse in terms.

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Of gender age, profession, profession, sexual orientation, culture and race, the.

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Neighborhoods have no covenants or homeowner associations and no protection.

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When you in limonade single-family housing, this supports the rights of.

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Vulnerable citizens, there are they. They support an agenda of the rights of.

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Vulnerable citizens, they have many yard signs, supporting acceptance and.

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Diversity, those citizens are motivated to organized by the threat to local low.

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Income, neighbors and destruction of community, which has been in place for.

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Over a hundred years- and it has been diverse for over a hundred years- the.

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Goal is to protect our neighborhoods from being exploited by out-of-state.

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Developers do not remove the protection of single-family zoning. Thank you. I.

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Peter dorfman: this is a first night of council deliberations on the you do.

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You're going to be hearing a lot of technical arguments for and against the.

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Up stoning of bloomington's core neighborhoods tonight's, really not the.

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Time for that, but you'll be hearing a lot of that in the next few weeks.

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Tonight I just want to give some comment on the overall context for this.

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Discussion, the idea of pushing apartment density into single-family, neighborhoods.

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In bloomington is not new, the city's been trying to do it since the early 70s.

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When the hooker administration tried to do urban renewal in the near west side,.

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The residents there led by the black community, managed to stop that effort.

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Thankfully, they recognized that the way to make the west side a desirable place.

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To live was not by building up, but by through by developing homeownership.

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That's this was before there was such a thing as single-family zoning later.

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Administrations have tried to densify on several occasions. The residents have.

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Pushed back every time the you do that you have in front of you reflects.

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I think pretty clearly hamilton administration priority the.

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Administration has never really said what is its intent? Is this time around.

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They've been content to let bloomington's young social justice.

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Warriors frame this as a debate about affordable housing and about climate.

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Change, affordable housing has a very definite definition and, to the extent.

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That you're talking about new construction, I don't believe there's.

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Anything in the you do that addresses affordable housing. I've pointed this out.

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Directly to mayor hamilton, there's nothing in the you do that practically.

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Addresses either affordable housing or climate change, the mayor's response was.

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Change is hard, that's a verbatim quote so in the next.

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Few weeks, you're going to be having specific arguments about those issues.

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Probably hours and hours of specific arguments, but I don't think that's what.

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Any of this is really about. I believe the true purpose of the you do is to.

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Build as many market rate apartments on the west side of bloomington as possible,.

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Market rate apartments, why would the city want to do that? I think it's.

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Principally about the trades district, which is developing into quite a pretty.

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Little open park, I believe the mayor thinks that housing.

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Is a key reason why tech companies aren't signing on as tenants in the.

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Trades district, he would love to be able to say to them. Hey look at this. Your.

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Data scientists can walk to work. This is not about about low-income housing. I.

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Don't think this is about climate change. I think this is about housing for.

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Comfortably employed people, even if they, if even they, can afford the luxury.

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Apartments that bloomington is inviting private equity back developers to build.

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Once the plexus are allowed in core neighborhoods climate change and.

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Affordable housing are just the current fashionable excuses to shove, apartment.

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Development into neighborhoods, where house houses are cheap and land is.

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Valuable. Thank you. Thank you for your comment.

W

Hello, my name is matt flaherty. First. Thank you, council members for your.

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Service and willingness to do the sometimes challenging work of improving and updating our zoning code to better reflect our community values and goals.

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As laid out in the comprehensive master plan, I've heard a few things that I.

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Disagree with, I suppose, and one is maybe we need to recognize the difference.

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Between affordable housing, subsidized housing and market rate, housing, affordability, those are different things and both of them are important and the.

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Comp plan speaks to both also duplexes and triplexes, aren't apartments or.

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Apartment density for the same size as a house under the current you do and also.

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Can be owner-occupied just like a house can be unoccupied or renter occupied, but I don't want to get too lost in the weeds. After my point and coming up here, kind of, like my friend peter just mentioned, was speaking to some overall.

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Themes about this process, in particular about language and tone, and assumptions.

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I know a lot of people here have been involved in this process for a while now.

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At planning commission, as they work to listen to a lot of public comment, find.

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Compromises among competing visions for our built environment.

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I think things got heated, sometimes with certain motivations being attributed.

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Where they may not exist, so I just wanted to take this opportunity to say.

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That I think everybody up here is advocating for what they think is best.

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And has like, what's best in for our community in mind, I really do believe.

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That I've met with a lot of these folks who might see things differently than I do personally, and I think the challenging part is how to address.

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Missing middle housing needs and where that's going to go in town and how best.

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To meet these goals in the context of providing diverse housing options, as our.

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Comp plan calls for throughout the city increasing market rate, housing, affordability, which I just mentioned. Enhancing social and racial equity and.

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Becoming a more sustainable community that does meet the challenges of the climate crisis and helps us to substantially reduce our greenhouse gas emissions, how we develop and how the choices we make in the built environment.

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Do impact those things they're, not simple, straw, arguments that have nothing.

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To do with this, it's I mean read any of the planning literature. It's it's pretty.

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Clear that there's an impact between land use and greenhouse gas emissions.

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For instance, but again I think everybody's advocating for what their.

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Best what they think is best here, and I just hope we can all keep that in mind.

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Throughout this process, reasonable minds can differ on.

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Exactly what policies we need to get us where, where our goals say, we want to go.

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And people's different lived experiences, different levels of fear or concern.

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About how our community might be changing in addition to what research.

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We've done and how much reliance and put into professional judgment from.

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Academics, practitioners, urban planners- all those things are different, so even.

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With shared values, if we zoom out a little bit, I think we can all agree. We.

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Care about our community, we care about addressing the climate crisis, but even with those shared values, we might prioritize things differently and thus.

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Advocate for different policies, so acknowledging that folks are well.

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Intentioned but the reasonable minds can differ, I would say we need to strive our.

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Best to engage in the discussion and debate that focuses on outcomes and.

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Impacts and really try to avoid taking personal offense. The climate change is a.

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Good example: I've spoken to the impact of housing, types and density on on.

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Transportation and building energy use emissions. That's these are pretty.

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Clearly, characterized in the literature of the academic literature, but somehow.

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That's been inferred to be calling people, climate change deniers, which of course, I've never said or done. So. My point is just that, while reaffirming my.

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Deep respect and care for everyone in our community our diverse viewpoints. I really hope we can all make an effort to avoid taking offense and be careful.

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About the inferences we draw about what people are saying about us simply based.

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On the policies were advocating for so that's all. Thank you very much. Thank you.

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Hi cynthia bret time, thanks once again for listening, I was here when we argued.

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About the cmp, and my understanding was that it was the underlying structure for.

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The you do their underlying structure and was going to be combined with the.

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Transportation plan into the you do that these documents are to relate to one.

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Another and that's really important something that hasn't been addressed so.

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Far, as I can tell is the precious nature of these small old neighborhoods with.

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Their 30 foot lots their old scale development, all of the neighborhoods, the.

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Car neighborhoods and the edges all the way out to city limits is going to.

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Change and we're going to have more people. The most recent study on.

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Number of people moving here was about 500 a year. The number that we've quoted.

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Has a thousand a year, but we found out that that wasn't really true. When an.

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Academic advisor or an academic professor did a survey, so it's not quite.

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As big as we thought, it was going to be, and we have all this extra land that can.

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Be developed that's empty now. We have developments. That's going in at the.

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Kmart site we have the marsh lot, that's empty. We have the hospital site, we have.

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Edges and in fill that can happen and will happen and will be welcomed in the.

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Core neighborhoods, too, and all of these changes are important, can add to the.

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Precious characters of the different neighborhoods each neighborhood has its.

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Own character, each neighborhood should be respected, for that and those are some.

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Of the most charming things about bloomington, let's not forget that that's.

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Important we have some duplexes and triplexes in the core neighborhoods.

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Which are the only neighborhoods that have been targeted for the plexes and.

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They fit in really beautifully big old brick things fit in with those small 800.

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Square foot houses: let's appreciate the preciousness and the character and the.

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Architectural value of the history there, let's respect the diversity of the low.

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Income people who live there and the racial diversity of those neighborhoods.

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Where we have our banneker center and where we have people for a couple of.

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Generations have bought those old little houses and are really proud of them and.

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They're looking more beautiful every week, the affordability is really.

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Important and I think it will be affected stunningly if we put in more.

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Multi-Family housing, so let's do it gently, let's find some way to make it.

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Reasonable, so that it doesn't over gentrify too quickly, so that people.

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Unlimited incomes will be moved out and so that we can retain and really value.

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Those precious places that we have thank you thank.

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I'm john kennedy and I'm gonna be boring, but short, all of you know that that the.

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Current rc is going to be changed to r3 and if you look at the purpose statement.

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For r3, I don't know if all of you have we have there are three districts. Is.

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Intended to protect that enhanced, established residential neighborhoods by.

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Increasing the viability of owner-occupied and affordable housing.

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Dwelling units through small lot subdivision accessory dwelling units and.

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Property improvements compatible with the surrounding development patterns, but.

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If the most important thing is the conversion of existing housing stock to.

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More intense land uses is discouraged, and so I think that if you look at the.

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The the goal of ours, r3 you'll, see that it is not designed for more duplexes. Try.

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Flexes and I hope you'll keep that in mind and if you look also at the.

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Document that was provided that shows how the you do: maps to the comprehensive.

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Plan and the comprehensive plans, five one, five one two and those things talk.

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About affordable and housing and density and the map to it in the you do is r4.

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And the rm zones, and so I think that we have plenty of places to put more.

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Affordable and more dense housing in in the you know as its stated, and it.

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Doesn't have to be in r3. Thank you. Thank you for your comment. I'm paul ash from.

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Mcdole I'm repeating myself, but I think it bears repeating our core.

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Neighborhoods have hundred-year-old sewers, we have streets that were.

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Designed for model t's, we just can't physically handle greater density. Thank.

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You thank you for your coming.

AA

Hello, my name is jean simonian and I'd like to speak to the financialization of.

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Housing, as michelle mentioned trump young and hollingsworth, have something.

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In common, besides being the same party, they all support, upzoning.

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And before anyone points to the democratic presidential candidates who.

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Have also come out in support of up zoning realize that those candidates.

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Have imbued their proposals with regulatory controls, which are.

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Unavailable to us under indiana state law, unfortunately, which is exactly why.

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Indiana real estate is attracting private equity investment. I'm not.

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Talking about your neighbor, who also owns a rental house: okay, I'm talking.

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About groups like blackstone half a trillion dollars in real estate assets.

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In fact, the ceo of blackstone has said that housing has replaced gold on the.

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Global market as the primary store of wealth for the super-rich since 2008.

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Since the recession, so it's no surprise the trump supports up zoning nor the yet.

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Nor that young and hollandsworth, who have each sponsor dmb acts in the senate.

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And house hollingsworth collects income from 41 real estate, llc's and 40% of his.

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2008 political contributions were from wall street the center for american.

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Progress action fund projects that hollingsworth will personally save four.

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And a half million dollars from his amendment to the tax bill allowing real.

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Estate, investors to benefit from the 20% pass-through tax credit on real estate.

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Investment, it's this sort of corrupt practice that drives equity investment.

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Globally, our homes are put at increasing risk by predatory investment and.

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Upzoning will accelerate this process.

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Exponentially because in indiana single-family zoning is one of the few.

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Tools we have available to prevent wholesale buyouts of neighborhoods those.

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Who claim no one will be forced to sell clearly do not understand the powerful.

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Profit stake that underlines up zoning whereby investors can and do inflate.

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Property valuations by higher value developments in proximity and then.

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Outbid individual buyers, the new york times cited one in five homes in the us.

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Are owned by private equity right now, that's 15 million homes. Thank you. Thank.

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You for your comment, further comment. Thank you. I'm mary morgan, I'm director.

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Of advocacy and public policy for the greater bloomington chamber of commerce.

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We represent over 800 businesses with over 30,000 employees, and these are.

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People like some of you who own their own businesses, work in the community.

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Care about the community certainly do not want to destroy the neighborhoods. We.

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Hear every day that the missing middle housing is a serious concern for the.

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Sustainability of businesses, a lot of people want to move here and want to.

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Grow their businesses or want to live here because they went to school here.

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And a great had a great experience and they can't because they can't find the.

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Kind of affordable housing that they need, so I just wanted to let you know.

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That these people are not necessarily going to storm the city hall council.

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Chambers, every single time you have a hearing, but they are out.

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There and I think that their voice needs to be heard and I'll do my best to.

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Represent them, I'm also really concerned about the rhetoric that I hear we do.

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Love this community and don't wanted to see it destroyed and I feel like a lot.

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Of times we hear some rhetoric that is a little over the top, and I that really.

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Disturbs me, I can guarantee you that the people I talked to about the need for.

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Affordable workforce housing are not necessarily social justice warriors not.

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Necessarily, even young though they might think of themselves as young. So as we go.

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Through this discussion, I hope that you'll keep that in mind that there's a.

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Multiplicity of voices here and we're trying to have respect and and.

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Respectful disagreements for this very serious process. Thank you very much for.

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Your work here tonight, thank you for your comment, sir. Other comments. Please.

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Step up and thank you for remembering to sign in hi I'm vida stanfield, I hadn't.

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Really planned to speak tonight, but it just occurs to me, as I'm sitting here.

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And listening to all this that we're all concerned about affordable housing, I.

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Spent my career working in childcare and daycare and everybody is in favor of.

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Affordable childcare but nobody wants to subsidize it, and so that's why you can't.

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Have quality childcare that's affordable because it has to be subsidized. We.

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Cannot have affordable housing anywhere unless we are willing to subsidize it.

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And unless people are paid enough to afford to live in housing, I don't I just.

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Feel like, I need to say that, because it hasn't been said, thank you.

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For the comment from the public, please please step up so he'd be our last.

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Opportunity tonight: okay, we're back to council nope; sorry.

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Good evening I'm kristine matthew and I hadn't planned on speaking today, but.

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Given the conversation, I thought I'd add my two cents about this. One of the.

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Things I need to sign in just a second, is that when we talk about affordable.

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Housing, I think, there's this issue of if you're talking about affordable housing.

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In san francisco, the land value there is extremely high, so the construction value.

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Of that in relative terms goes down quite low, but in terms of bloomington.

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The construction nowadays, anybody who is in the construction business nowadays.

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Recognized is that it's very, very high construction per square foot right now.

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Is about guys, like $200, a square foot these days for pretty simple.

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Construction when we start to talk about an affordable housing downtown the.

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Construction cost is going to be the same, whether it is downtown or whether.

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It's out of town, whatever you know, what are we talking about? Affordable housing.

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The most affordable thing we can do is to use the existing houses that we have.

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And when I keep wondering it's, when I hear about all of providing more and.

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More density downtown: it's because you're trying to cram lots of housing on.

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Limited sites, but the construction costs is going to be the same and that's.

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What's really going to be driving whether something's, affordable or not?

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I keep wondering two things if, in fact, what I've seen anyway is that most of.

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The housing that's going downtown is all student directed and is the goal here to.

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Basically, have those of us who do live close to downtown who've, been here for.

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Many many years is the goal to have us leave and to move.

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Out of the downtown area, so that everybody who lives down.

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Town is directly related to I you I mean, I don't think that's really. You know.

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It's a it's a transitory group people coming and going all the time, and I sort.

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Of look at this and I go my goodness. What is the purpose of this and I think.

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The comments about the big developers was absolutely on target and the places.

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That are getting hit are university towns because we have a captive market.

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It's not a tourist town, it's not volatile. In that respect, it is something.

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That is a fixed market. That's a great place for people large developers to.

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Develop their projects, has anybody on this committee or have the planners.

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Coordinated with I you, I mean: what is the projections for the iu population, it.

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Goes up and down it's what's driving this housing right and every time you.

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Build a new apartment, downtown there's an apartment, for instance over on the.

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East side out near 10th street, that's no longer wanting to be rented because it's.

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Not brand new, so there's all this, you know: what's what's today's, it's going to.

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End up becoming the housing that deteriorates over time. I mean anyway,.

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It's just a few comments. Having heard what you were talking about this evening,.

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Thank you. I recognize at the same time you're trying to do the best on this.

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Whole thing: good! Luck! Thank you for your comment. Any other public comment c come.

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To a few people's shifting- and I don't know if they're going to get up right now- okay, of course, we'll continue further.

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Meetings on the you do so you'll have another opportunity later on other other.

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Evenings so with that we'll be back to council for additional council questions.

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And we have two minutes each. If you'd like to ask further questions on chapter.

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Two any takers: oh sorry, councilmember, piedmont, smith,.

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Yeah in the r4 district, which isn't on a map anywhere, yet it looks like the.

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Height limit is 35 feet, so it's the intention to keep those buildings to two.

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Storeys whoa, why is that? Yes, it is proposed to.

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Be, let's see yes, 35 feet is the proposed maximum and I think it's to keep it in.

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Line with this single-family residential character of what that district is.

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Really intended to be, as was mentioned in some of the public comments, that some.

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Of the the more intense land uses that are proposed in that district are.

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Intended to be at a smaller scale, so if we're looking, if if we would want to.

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Encourage row houses, for example, that would we would want to use the.

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Residential multi-family zoning for for those parts of the city, you could use a.

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Number of zoning districts that would allow that attached, single-family.

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Product and you'd just be subject to the dimensional standards of the districts.

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That did allows that. Does it does that answer your question yeah I was I'm just.

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Wanting to make sure we don't emit any of the middle, that's missing, you know.

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What I mean so, like a row house as three stories, that's you know attached.

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Single-Family mm-hmm, if we want that on west third street or.

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Something we would say: okay. Well, then, we should consider making that residential.

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Multi-Family not r4, well, that type of product would currently be a permitted.

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Use in our to three or four or multifamily attached, but not three.

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Storeys you could build three storeys with 35 feet. That would be ten foot.

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Stories, so if you didn't have a pitched roof, I guess if you had a flat roof, I.

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Suppose you could do it right and the the definition for height is measured a.

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Little bit differently in this code, which you'll you'll get into in the next chapter, but it's the average height of the building and I think as to the midpoint of a pitch roof, and it takes an account, topography and different. It's.

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The average height around the whole building so okay, thank you.

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Consomme wurster boom yeah, since you weren't, since you weren't.

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Mapping, the city: did you actually get out and analyze how much buildable space.

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There was in the city, or has this all been an abstract project of using forms.

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And zoning patterns from other communities- you know, for instance, the.

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Amount of space that is sometimes like used by the gas company, which is right.

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By the beeline, it's almost a city block, you know and then there's a city block.

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That is south of the current convention center and they're, just city blocks of.

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Open areas to build in did you guys map what was available before considering.

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Pushing things into single-family neighborhoods: no, we didn't do that.

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Exercise, we did look at I mean we did do a tour of the the city during the.

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Initial kickoff trip, where staff toward us around to show us you know.

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Development on the ground potential opportunity, sites old peds that were not.

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Developed, I think this exercise of drafting the.

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Code is to provide bloomington with the toolbox necessary the zoning tools that.

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You need to help implement the plan that you've laid out, and we think that the.

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The lineup of districts here, including our four, are the tools that you can use.

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And you know where you apply, those on the ground is really up to the city, but.

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You have the tools available. I asked that because I want the city with.

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Donovan ripa, who is a well known urban planner, and he estimated we had 40.

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To 50 years of build-out in that immediate area- and it's been maybe seven.

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Years since then, but there's all this underused land, there are parking lots.

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And and car lots along south walnut, they're acres of land to be redeveloped.

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Without it, without going into the historic and important core.

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Neighborhoods I-I think a mapping process would have.

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Been useful, thank you, yeah, and that would be a great opportunity for that.

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Revised zoning map to reevaluate the zoning for those parcels and to see if.

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If a different zoning is more appropriate, okay, further questions from.

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Council, this is second round questions on chapter 2, councilmen people on smith.

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Throughout this chapter, there are requirements for landscaping and there.

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Are requirements as a percentage of the area, and then there are requirements for.

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A maximum of impermeable surface so a lot of times those add up to a hundred.

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Percent, so you either have a built structure of some sort or you have.

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Landscaping is, is that the is that intentional is it I mean when you say.

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Landscaping, do you just mean non built, could be grass, or do you actually mean a.

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Certain number of plants planted there I'm trying to understand this.

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Terminology right so the in the definitions chapter there is a.

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Definition for landscape and landscape area, so that landscape area is intended.

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To be improved, landscaping to where it's actually intended to be cared for, and.

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It's not undisturbed areas is that the question well.

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I guess I'm wondering what so, if you, if you have some portion that is landscaped.

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And some portion that is built upon is there ever a third portion that is.

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Neither so the way that code works. Now you can use permeable pavers permeable.

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Pavers, don't count against your impervious maximum. So theoretically you.

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Could build a building and you could, if the rest of your area on your lot, was a.

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Parking lot, you could basically have almost no green but still be meeting.

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Your impervious maximum does that make sense. So what we wanted to do in the new.

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Code was include a landscape minimum so that you can use permeable pavers. That's.

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Great but you're actually going to have to have actual open space on all these.

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Lots and that's why we included it in that way. Okay,.

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All right, thank you, brooke continuing with second round questions. Okay, see no.

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None we will now move on to a final comment on chapter 2 from council or a.

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Debate four minutes per member. Anyone like to begin.

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No one, I would, I will go first, I just I would like to respond to the public that.

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Came tonight and spoke, I thought it was very eloquent and I think you described.

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Exactly really my view of the potential hazard of of up zoning and density, and I.

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Think that the comments about financialization and the investment.

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Opportunities available in especially towns, college towns is, I think, very real.

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And it was very spot on that's not to say I'm not in I'm against density, but I.

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Think that there are places for density and councillor mr. boehm just described.

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That we have areas where the density could it could occupy, and some of the.

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References I think that were made for to the struggle. Mr. dorfman talked about.

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That this is a reoccurring sort of theme at different iterations. It changes over.

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Time but the up zoning is always sort of comes back and, and I assume that these.

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Debates have happened many many times before. I think that the historical view.

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Of this is really important because I is neighborhoods have evolved over time in.

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Bloomington, since I've been here 35 years, I've seen the threats I've seen.

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Neighborhoods stressed at risk that have rebooted become owner-occupied protected.

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Affordable housing, small homes within the core- and I think that that is I mean.

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If anything else in this process, I want to do is to do no harm so to protect.

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What exists? That's working really deserves special, reverence and.

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I'll conclude with that have more to say, as we proceeded on amendments, so I've.

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Jumped into the deep end of the pool who would like to join me.

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Councilmember sandberg. Thank you again with respect to the public comment. I.

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Could not agree more that in going forward people with differing points of.

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Views need to be mindful the things that you say in the way you say them can put.

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People on the defensive and campaign make people feel offended and we don't.

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Want that we want to get to a good product, we want to get to a good policy.

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That protects what we have, that we love them, that we need, and yet is mindful of.

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The needs for growth in all the right places and for all the right reasons. I.

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Particularly liked mr. himes comment about as changes occur, if changes are.

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Going to occur, let's do it gently because gentrification you know if that.

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Is going to be a side effect to some of these changes that could possibly go.

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Through that is not good for affordability, that is not good for the.

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Already diverse residents that live in these urban core neighborhoods and so.

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Let's all be gentle, let's be gentle in our language. Let's be gentle in our.

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Approach- let's not do things so quickly that, as councilmember allah has said,.

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That we end up doing harm. That's one of my biggest fears. That's one of the.

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Things that keeps me up at night. Yes, we want what we need to address modern.

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Challenges, whether it is our need to be more mindful of our carbon footprint as.

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Well, as our need to provide housing for a workforce, the people that work at cook.

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And catalan tande, I you and all the people who are desperately looking for.

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Housing and can't find it, but then there are these lower-income moderate income.

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Families that are already here, they're already, you know making good.

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Lives for themselves in some of these older core neighborhoods, we must be.

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Mindful of that, and I don't care how trendy the research in other cities.

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We've got to take a look at this city. What works in bloomington and what's not.

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Going to fit lieutenant, I think bloomington people know that very well. I've been here long enough to see that we have a community.

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Of very engaged very invested, very intelligent residents who, who can see.

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What's coming and who know what's been and can make good decisions here, going.

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Forward- and so that is my hope for the remainder of this project, there's some.

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Very good things in this. You do and there's some things that, even though I.

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Was a member of the planning commission and I voted to pass this on to this.

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Council, I didn't agree with everything, that's in it, and so I hope this is an.

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Opportunity for us to tweak it get it right. Thank you. Councilmember piedmon,.

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Smith yeah. I wanted to also respond to some of the public comment this evening.

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First of all, when mr. alexander said, we should just get rid of pew tees, that in.

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A way that resonates with me, because it is peds our you know, a way to circumvent.

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Our regular zoning requirements, I think there is a role for them, but what I'm.

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Going to be looking at is if we allow peds, and they have some kind of.

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Affordable housing or sustainable development, a green building component- I.

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Really think that they should not be allowed to do a payment in lieu of.

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Including that component, so so I do think we need to tighten up the peds and.

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Make sure that they provide clear, significant public benefit. So all the.

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The discussions about density in core neighborhoods, I live in a core.

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Neighborhood, I guess I'm one of the aim bees, because I have the homeless, shelter.

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Across the street and a trailer park in my back yard- and certainly my house was.

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Very affordable when it was purchased in the 90s. I said it's a 900 square foot.

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House, so just that's where I'm coming from and yet I do see the the proposal.

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That is currently in the draft to have duplexes and triplexes allowed.

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As conditional use, I see that as a compromise, because initially they were.

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Allowed by right, as well as for flexes in core neighborhoods and so we've taken.

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The four plexes away, those are only allowed in r4, which is not even zoned.

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Yet and made the other two less dense forms. These are not big apartment.

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Buildings made those conditional use, so I think that there has been a compromise.

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I wanted to respond to a few specific remarks. I do not think that it's anybody.

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Is purpose to force all non? I you affiliated people to move away from.

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Downtown, I don't think, that's anybody's desire. I think that one of the reasons.

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We have created, or the new draft has in it. The student housing district is that.

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We can say: okay enough, downtown student housing. Let's we want to have a mixed.

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Population downtown not just students, and I think that's a way to reclaim that.

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And I and that's why we put the brakes on on some student or some residential.

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Complexes downtown two years ago, so miss dan field said we cannot afford. We can't.

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Have affordable housing unless we subsidize it, I think in many cases it.

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Does have to be subsidized, but not in all cases. I know of some apartment.

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Complexes in the district I represent that do not receive subsidies, but that.

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Are relatively affordable and that's because they're older? That's because.

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They're, not the new shiny thing, so they are still. You know in decent condition.

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But they're not the the latest and greatest so there are ways to to get.

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Affordable housing- and I think a key to that is to have more housing, because I.

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Do believe that there is law and the law supply-demand does have an impact on the.

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Housing market- the- let's see there was one other thing I do.

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I do want to the second what mr. flaherty said that you know I thought I.

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Hope that we can all agree, I mean we we up here, do this job for very little.

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Money and we put our heart and soul into it, and I know that people who are out.

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There who've spoken on all sides of the issue: do have the best interest of the.

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Community in mind, so I hope that even if we disagree, we can respect that.

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And know that if we characterize something in a certain way, it doesn't.

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Mean we're labeling the people in that, in a certain way, in a certain negative.

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Way so I hope that we can keep that in mind as the week's go forward. Thank you.

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Thank you, councilmember simms. Thank you. I too want to thank everyone for their.

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Public comment: a couple of things about what we're doing and we'll hear tons and.

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Tons of comments and analysis in the bunch here in the next couple of weeks.

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37 years ago I lived on west 7th right across from the west side center. I'm.

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Sorry, the banneker center see it used to be called west side center. There was a.

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Reason, the makeup of the near west side is not the same as it was in.

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Particularly racially- and I don't see where it had a lot to do with zoning at.

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The time it had to do with some other things- and I think we all kind of know.

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What some of those things are, but it is not the same okay, so we will change.

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I like this, do no harm' aspect. I hope I don't jump around here. A.

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Little bit there's a couple things I do want to say. I just went south of town.

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And got my car an automobile service. Three people approached me got to talk.

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To you, I recognized you on tv, you.

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I want my city back.

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What do you mean? You know we won't get into that all this, but I want my city.

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Back a lot of it has to do with no change.

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I, like mayberry one person, told me that you know there will be change our thing.

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Is or my thing and I think my colleagues is to try to.

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Do the smart thing to try to do the thing that is going to do no harm or, as.

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Least, amount of harm as possible. There are still- and I don't want to pick on.

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Any particular or use any particular neighborhood, but even in a near west.

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Side, if we did no zoning change at all, there are empty lots throughout that.

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Area that can be built there. There aren't a whole lot, but there are. I live.

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There there are some there trust me, so those are some of the areas that I think.

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That, through compromising negotiating considering and reconsidering, I think.

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There are some spaces that we could use to add some density, along with all the.

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Other spaces that need to be built out as well. I don't think many of us have.

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Made decisions already and we've already heard a ton we're going to hear more at.

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Least I know I will these are all interconnected, actually we're talking.

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About housing, climate change, public transportation, employment, multi mobility,.

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These aren't, we talk to them, sometimes like they're all separate but they're.

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Really interconnected and we won't have to kind of just figure out what's best.

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For this town, with the growth that we are getting and we can say we're not.

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Growing and I use population and there you know admissions. I worked at iu for.

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33 years, trust me when I first came to school here it was 28,000 kids. I was one.

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Of them and some people would probably say you need to go. Well, that's another.

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Thing: 28,000, kids: now we got over 40. Do I think it'll get to 50. I don't think.

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So I don't know, but I do know that as long as they're part of this community.

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And I get some things about student housing, then there are certain things and we're going to have to do. Yes, we need to sit down and let me know if I'm.

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Out of time, almost I do know enough. You need to sit down with the iu people. I.

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Talked with those folks regularly, officially, and mostly unofficially,.

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Separate entity, and now I'm out of time, okay I'll continue next week. I just want.

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To thank everyone for the work they're doing. It is very, very helpful. Many of.

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You I'll talk with individually over coffee in different places, not really do.

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Appreciate that, and it is helpful, thank you very much. Thank you. Councilmember.

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Simms councilmember valen, okay, I'm starting over there we go. No one is.

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Proposing student housing in the near west side or mcdole gardens yet lots of.

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Students are living in those neighborhoods right now. You don't know.

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Them you don't hear them because they're not actually partying, duplexes and.

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Triplexes are not the same thing as giant student housing projects.

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No one's proposing a giant student complex to replace the hospital. The very.

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Formation of neighborhood earths associations help prevent the giant.

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Complexes that invaded district 6 before there was zoning, where, if pud has.

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Been proposed in recent years century village, the extreme east edge of town.

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Chandler's glen bordering I-69, the only one we actually approved was the one in.

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North walnut that took a great deal of lifting to actually pass. How did student.

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Housing make it into garden hill tear a trace, brownstone, terrace or poolside.

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Apartments are those smaller three-story, 18 unit, crappy flat top buildings at.

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West elm heights, those ships sailed decades ago that happened before we had.

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Zoning, let alone the gpp or a you do, or a comprehensive plan. Our current.

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Ordinances are already preventing this apocalyptic vision.

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Promoted by so many tonight, a vision rooted in the lawless time before 1975.

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When 60% of bloomington's downtown was razed for parking lots, an east kirkwood.

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Was still transitioning to a commercial street from what used to be a.

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Residential street in the early part of the century, the consultant said that the.

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New student housing type: we can, it encourages student housing where we want.

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It but that's the thing: that's not how non students read it non students, don't.

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Want student housing anywhere, they will read it as student house, they should go.

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Over there and they're only anywhere but near us smallwood is a really good.

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Example, it was approved and built before the first. You do. These. There are student.

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Developments all over town or we wouldn't be seeing apartment shuttles.

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Students are all over town and they should stay all over town, not isolated.

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In student housing districts, what it underscores is the need for pud reform.

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Which I absolutely support, but a student housing district just exacerbates the.

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Student on student divide, mr. dorfman, said something interesting. I think he's.

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Wrong about why companies are not signing on in the trades district, it's.

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Not because there's not enough housing there, it's because and very explicitly so it's been said to my face: they want to see parking, they want to see parking.

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Built before they're willing to build buildings there, councilmember rallo.

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Argued that the fourchette garage would reduce sprawl in the periphery of our.

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City, if we built it and made it larger, maybe if there was more dense housing.

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Throughout the community, we wouldn't be seeing the demand for parking from.

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People who are travelling increasingly far to be where the core neighborhoods.

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Already get to be close to the center of town, I think there is a compromise to be.

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Had between the location has and the location have nots we're only talking.

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About people who want to either be close or they want to be able to get there, but.

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The problem is, it requires things beyond the scope of the you do we need to talk.

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About transportation, parking and transit, which is hard to codify and a zoning.

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Ordinance, but I would urge everyone to maybe start seeing students, as you know,.

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People and that they actually the majority of them done.

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Make noise and no one's proposing building a complex that, like the ones.

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That dot the new district that I represent in your neighborhood, let's.

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Ratchet down this rhetoric, thank you.

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Accounts mr. bone.

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I'm thinking back before I was on counsel. In the fernandez days I got on.

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Council somewhat in the fernandez days, but we're on the historic commission and.

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In those days, developers wanted to tear down buildings downtown and build, and we.

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Sat together to make a preservation plan and what we said was here's. What's.

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Valuable keep that and we made a map of parking lots. We made a map of one-story.

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Buildings we said: here's where to build stuff, keep the good stuff build us where.

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The stuff isn't- and I was shocked that the mapping comes later and and nobody.

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Walked out there and looked at the ground out there on the ground, I mean.

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People who are talking about up zoning don't know what it means to the actual.

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Ground to the actual neighborhoods I've watched and many who have lived in this.

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Community, a long time saw why we had zoning why it came in university town. It.

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Was consuming elm heights, it was like the giant nothing, it was eating away. The.

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Bloomington and single-family zoning stopped that and single-family zoning.

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Encouraged ownership and ownership is the affordable way to live in this.

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Bloomington town and if this turns everything into rental, which is what it.

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Does when it up zones, the investor is gonna bid against the guy who wants to.

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Turn these things into a rental. He can put nine people on your property and.

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You're now bidding against that to be a homeowner.

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You know so I go back to. I read a book a very recently published book about.

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Neighborhoods and this woman was so nostalgic about true neighborhoods, where.

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People were politically involved where they knew each other, where they could.

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Walk to the downtown and she was mourning because there were so few of.

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These neighborhoods in this country they'd been destroyed by one thing or.

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Another- and I just thought we have those neighborhoods- we live in those.

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Neighborhoods we fought to build those neighborhoods and they are precious and.

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When I draw this next map, I circle those neighborhoods, those are the assets of.

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The city, those are single-family houses that we are short of we're like 66%,.

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Rental in this town and what people want in all these surveys, I want a little.

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House and a little bitty yard they just do and they want that and if.

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We burn that up that greatest asset of our city, they're gonna, go to elet's.

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Ville they're gonna go wherever they have to, but we've lost it because that's.

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Going backwards into rental world, so you know it's not news that people who live.

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More densely use less energy, you know new york city, we get that you urbanists.

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Have known that for years and years and years, their per capita better. So we have.

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All this area to build the missing middle, build and enhance and build the.

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Density that we need there's plenty of area to build it and it will complement.

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This these great neighborhoods, it will complement what is great about the city.

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And it'll build out. That's those stupid car lots and it'll build out those.

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One-Story strip malls and it'll it'll fill in the way it should, and we can.

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Have three-story mixed-use all along south walnut? You know we can have.

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Apartments close to town all those like what an underused area that gas company.

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One story to part: you know five trucks parking there there's so much to build.

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Out, if we do it consciously, if we map correctly, if we will have a better.

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Bloomington, but it's it's it's it's foolish to try to do a one blanket over.

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Zone that solves everything sells climate and there's so many unintended.

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Consequences that I know in my gut from watching this town for my entire life.

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And we need to do this right and we can and we and we.

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Thank you. Thank you. Any other counsel comment, nice chance. All right do we have.

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A rebuttal: do you have time remaining? You have 15 seconds all right. Let's see.

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It we're gonna need to make a choice. We cannot complain about rentals and then.

G

Say well, every student brings a car if we're gonna build the missing middle.

G

Elsewhere, sites, core neighborhoods is gonna, be on parking lots so pick one.

G

Either no duplexes in your neighborhood or.

G

There's not gonna be as much parking anymore.

G

That's gonna be a choice. We have to make think about it all right. Let's let it.

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Let it very good, very good, efficient use of time. Okay! Thank you all for coming.

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Now, we'll move on to any other matters or actions related to the proposal ready.

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To be raised at this meeting, what does that mean? Oh it is, you, don't know what.

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It so it's does. Anyone have anything that would shoehorn into that topic. Okay,.

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Seeing none we do, we need a motion to recess. Yes, the next meeting is tuesday.

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October 22nd next tuesday, and that is exclusively at 6:00 p.m. here and that.

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Is exclusively chapter three correct? Yes, yes, so with that, we'll need a motion to.

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Recess: okay, all in favor of recess, sing until october 22nd, say aye.

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Any opposed we're recessed.