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A
C
B
D
E
F
A
Thank
you
very
very
much.
The
agenda
summation
is
as
follows.
A
We
have
no
minutes
for
approval
of
the
sydney,
then
we'll
move
down
to
reports,
which
is
a
maximum
of
20
minutes
set
aside
for
each
part
of
this
section,
a
council
members
b,
the
mayor
and
city
offices,
c,
council
committees,
d,
public,
then
we'll
move
on
to
appointments
to
boards
and
commissions.
A
I
do
have
a
note
before
I
move
to
the
ordinances.
The
following
ordinances
were
first
introduced
at
the
march
29
2017
regular
session.
The
council
may
consider
technical
amendments
to
each
ordinance
at
tonight's
meet
tonight's
meeting,
but
will
not
be
able
to
vote
on
the
ordinances
themselves,
which
will
be
heard
at
a
public
hearing
in
august.
A
A
A
H
Yes,
it
is
president
sims.
I
believe
there
may
have
also
been
a
note
that
you,
you
would
like
to
frame
the
consideration
of
emotion
or
the
reason
for
structured.
I
H
In
the
way
proposed,
thank
you.
A
The
items
this
is
the
verbiage
for
motion
to
structure
deliberations
on
a
resolution
regarding
fiscal
plans
this
evening.
The
items
a
through
h,
listed
under
second
readings
and
resolutions
are
eight
resolutions
adopting
updated
fiscal
plans
for
areas
proposed
for
annexation,
effective
january
1st
2024.
A
H
Council
member
flaherty,
yes,
mr
president,
prior
to
making
such
a
motion,
I
did
have
a
question
for
for
u.s
chair
in
our
previous
discussion
about
structuring
debate.
We'd,
entertain
the
possibility
of
specifying
a
number
of
minutes
for
public
comment
and
or
council
debate
during
consideration.
H
But
given
the
relatively
low
numbers
of
people
in
the
meeting
at
present,
I
wonder
if
it
might
be
more
appropriate
to
leave
open
the
timeline
for
the
amount
of
time
allotted
per
member
of
the
public
when
making
this
motion
to
structure
debate,
and
we
can
make
the
you
as
chair
can
make
that
call
at
the
time
of
public
comment,
as
opposed
to
as
part
of
this
motion,
if
it
would,
if
it
would,
if
that
works.
For
you
as
as
chair.
Thank
you
very.
A
Much
and
as
chair,
it
works
for
me
just
fine
and
we
will
reconsider
or
consider
the
amount
of
public
comment
time
once
we
determine
the
number
of
those
two
wishing
to
speak.
H
Councilman
flair.
Yes,
mr
president,
I
move
that
the
council
consider
the
package
of
annexation
resolutions
updating
fiscal
plans
in
the
following
manner.
First,
that
the
city
administration
will
be
given
time
to
make
a
general
presentation
if
it
wishes
regarding
the
annexation
process
as
a
whole.
Second
council
members
may
then
ask
general
questions
of
the
presenters.
H
Fourth,
once
the
council
has
finished
receiving
presentations
and
asking
questions
on
the
eight
resolutions,
then
members
of
the
public
will
have
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
the
resolutions.
Members
of
the
public
may
speak
once
and
may
speak
to
as
many
of
the
resolutions
as
they
wish.
During
that
time,
however,
comments
should
pertain
to
one
or
more
of
the
resolutions.
H
Fifth,
after
the
public
has
had
an
opportunity
to
comment.
Council
members
may
ask
further
questions
and
hear
further
answers
as
necessary
before
making
concluding
comments
on
the
resolutions
during
debate
and
when
considering
possibly
a
motion
for
adoption.
Finally,
the
council
will
entertain
a
motion
to
adopt
one
at
a
time
for
each
of
those
resolutions.
J
A
H
Just
I'm
sorry
point
of
order.
It
is
debatable
and
requires
a
two-thirds
majority.
So
if
there
are
questions
or
concerns
that
members
have,
we
should
double
check
that
first,
no
thank.
A
A
B
D
A
B
C
H
President,
I
believe
we're
having
no
minutes
to
approve
tonight
where
we
have
the
reports
section
of
the
agenda
first
as
well.
Prior
to
this,
I'm.
A
J
Yes,
thank
you.
If
I
may
I'd
like
to
share
screen
mr
lucas,
do
I
have
that
capability.
J
J
Many
people,
many
of
us,
have
been
following
the
discussion
on
lower
cascades
park
for
quite
some
time
now,
but
just
by
way
of
quick
background,
lower
cascades
is
in
the
northern
part
of
the
city
located
in
district
2,
but
certainly
relevant
to
the
entire
city.
J
J
All
of
these
are
online
old
state
road,
37,
coming
through
from
north
to
south
the
road
that
turns
up
to
country
club.
This
is
the
section
of
road
that
is
closed
and
now
limited
to
bike
and
pet
bike:
bicycle
and
pedestrian
traffic.
J
You'll
see
on
your
screen
the
website
for
the
project,
the
link
to
the
survey
that
you're,
what
more
than
welcome
very
much
encouraged
to
to
fill
out
and
some
key
meetings
that
are
coming
up
in
late
later
in
june,
where
we
anticipate
some
decisions
will
be
made
regarding
lower
cascades.
You
are
also
welcome.
It's.
E
J
I
also
want
to
extend
my
thanks.
Paula
mcdevitt,
director
of
parks
and
recreation
and
tim
street,
who
is
the
director
of
the
operations
and
development
division,
have
probably
spent
more
time
with
district
2
constituents
than
almost
anybody
else.
This
year,
they've
been
very
gracious
with
their
time
in
constituent
meetings,
we're
very
good
and
generous
with
their
time
this
past
saturday
as
well-
and
I
just
want
to
publicly
thank
them
for
being
so
generous
with
their
time
and
being
so
helpful.
F
Hope,
god,
on
mute.
Thank
you
president.
I
just
wanted
to
do
a
brief
update
on
I'm
a
member
of
the
promising
practices
group
of
the
housing
and
security
group
that
is
looking
at
the
issue
of
homelessness
and
there's
a
several
subgroups
going
on.
I
am
with
the
promising
practices
group,
which
is
led
by
emily
pike
and
lindsey
smith,
with
some
assistance
from
brittany
hurt,
so
we've
been
looking
at
different
communities
around
the
country
and
probably
looked
at
16
or
17
different
municipalities.
F
F
What
they've
been
doing
several
have
achieved
zero
homelessness
for
the
veterans
in
the
community,
and
so
we
thought
that
was
a
notable
action
that
was
happening
leading
us
to
believe.
F
Maybe
we
can
extend
some
of
that
to
the
general
population
and
homelessness,
we've
reviewed
for
their
tools,
their
processes,
their
procedures,
funding
and
how
they've
intersected
with
the
government
bodies
like
us
and
the
city.
F
It's
been
very
interesting
and
somewhere
around
may
27th.
F
The
subgroups
are
going
to
come
together
and
and
report
to
at
large
to
the
home
in
homeless,
insecurity
group,
and
I
just
wanna-
wanted
everybody
to
know
that
you
know
we're
working
on
those
things
and
these
other
subgroups
are,
and
we've
learned
a
lot
of
things
about
how
it's
working
in
other
communities,
how
it's
not
working,
and
so
we
hope
to
bring
some
of
those
practices
forward
in
the
future.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
smith,
council
member
bowling.
D
D
Secondly,
we
still
have
openings
for
the
redistricting
commission
and,
depending
on
the
outcome
of
the
items
that
we're
bringing
forward
tonight,
they
may
have
needs
to
be
reformed
again
in
a
couple
of
years.
So,
if
there's
anyone
who
is
interested
in
serving
on
the
registering
commission,
there
are
still
some
openings
available
and
I
urge
you
to
contact
the
council
office
if
you're
interested
in
applying.
Thank
you
very
much.
L
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
I
am
also
on
the
promising
practices
committee
of
the
housing
and
security
working
group,
and
I
think
that
a
couple
of
other
council
members
may
be
in
the
in
the
housing
and
security
working
group
on
other
subcommittees,
so
just
wanted
to
recognize
that
there
are
several
of
us
participating
in
that
process.
Thank
you.
A
L
A
Very
much
any
further
comments
from
council:
okay,
seeing
none
it
will
move
down
to
report
from
the
mayor
or
city
offices.
A
Okay,
seeing
none
we
now
go
to
a
public
comment.
I
would
like
to
remind
members
of
the
public
that
they
may
speak
on
matters
of
the
community
concern
not
listed
on
the
tonight's
agenda
at
one
of
the
two
public
comment
opportunities
citizens
may
speak
at
one
of
these
periods,
but
not
both
speakers
are
allowed.
A
As
of
now
five
minutes.
This
time
allotment
may
be
reduced
by
the
presiding
officer.
If
numerous
people
wish
to
speak,
I
see
two
hands
raised,
so
I
think
we'll
go
with
the
five
minutes.
K
And
just
a
reminder
for
members
of
the
public,
you
might
wish
to
comment.
You
can
indicate
your
desire
to
do
so
by
using
the
raise
hand
function
in
zoom
or
by
sending
a
message
to
the
meeting
host
via
chat,
and
I
do
see
two
hands
raised
at
the
moment.
The
first
is
greg
alexander,
who
should
be
able
to
comment.
M
Hello,
thank
you.
My
name
is
greg
alexander
and
I've
got
some
positive,
sidewalk
news
for
you
guys.
I
was
biking
northbound
on
rogers,
just
north
of
11th
street
and
I
was
crossing
the
getting
right
across
the
railroad
bridge
and
there's
a
bike
lane
there.
M
And
what
did
I
see
in
the
bike
lane
but
two
pedestrians
and
I
could
see
right
away
why
they
were
in
the
bike
lane,
because
the
sidewalk
had
completely
covered
over
with
japanese
honeysuckle,
and
so
they
had
really
no
choice
but
to
walk
in
the
bike
lane
better
than
walking
in
the
car
lane.
I
guess-
and
I
I
bike
in
the
car
lane
you
know-
and
I
I'm
not-
I
don't
want
to
be
like
entitled
like.
M
Oh
the
city
owes
us
clear
sidewalks,
but
that's
a
monolithic
sidewalk
there,
and
that
means
that
there's
no,
it's
a
thin
sidewalk
to
a
narrow
sidewalk.
So
if
you,
if
you
are
on
the
sidewalk,
you
very
easily
get
pushed
into
the
road
and
that's
one
of
the
you
know
about
four
roads
in
the
downtown
area
that
do
cross
the
railroad
tracks.
So
it
has
a
good
amount
of
car
traffic
and
that
road's
not
calmed
even
a
little
bit.
M
So
it's
high
speed
car
traffic,
so
it's
dangerous
when
they're
walking
in
the
bike
lane
but
anyway.
So
I
filed
a
you
report
two
weeks
ago
and
then
one
week
ago,
city
staff
and
public
works
fixed
it
and
that's
the
second
time.
I've
seen
them
do
anything
like
that.
So
that
is,
that
is
a
change,
and
that
is
a
positive
change.
It's
a
bummer.
M
G
Casas
advocate
for
the
children
serve
as
sort
of
the
constant
in
their
lives,
because
there's
typically
a
lot
of
turnover
in
the
department
of
child
services,
personnel
and
as
service
providers.
A
typical
case
will
go
on
for
several
years.
We
need
more
people
to
volunteer
to
do
this.
The
last
I
heard
we
had
some
40
children
waiting
for
a
casa
who
were
in
the
court
system.
The
office
has
reached
asked
to
us
active
causes
and
assets
to
consider
taking
on
another
case
in
order
to
reduce
this
backlog
and
then
for
the
public.
G
If
you
would
care
to
try
to
help
with
this
problem,
we
have
a
training
upcoming
in
just
a
few
weeks.
It'll
start
june
7th
run
through
the
30th
of
june
it'll,
be
via
zoom
monday
evenings
wednesday
evening,
thursday
evenings
from
5
30
to
8
30..
If
this
is
something
that
you've
been
thinking
about,
now
would
be
a
good
time
to
do
it.
G
G
G
You
can
call
the
office
at
333-2272
and
talk
to
a
staff
member.
You
might
want
to
friend
the
monroe
county,
coffs
casa
office
on
facebook
and
then
you'll
be
seeing
announcements
about
other
opportunities
to
learn
information
and
help
you
decide.
If
maybe
this
is
a
volunteer
opportunity
for
you.
It's
very
rewarding
it's
great
when
the
children
are
either
reuniting
with
their
parents
or
have
been
adopted,
and
it's
something
that
we
really
need
people
to
do
to
help
the
children
and
to
help
our
community
be
strong.
So
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
spread
this
word.
K
I
did
receive
one
comment
over
chat
that
came
in
from
dave
vasquez
with
the
b-square
beacon.
K
The
comment
reads:
I
have
a
note
on
the
accessibility
of
this
meeting
so
far,
council
member
scamilari
showed
a
great
slide
on
the
lower
cascades
park.
Closing
it
was
in
large
type.
It
was
clean
and
crisp.
Here's.
What
councilmember
scandalory
said
you'll
see
on
your
screen
the
website
for
the
project,
the
link
to
the
survey
that
you're
more
than
welcome,
very
much
encouraged
to
fill
out
and
some
key
meetings
that
are
coming
up
later
in
june,
where
we
anticipate
some
decisions
will
be
made
regarding
lower
cascades.
K
The
words
came
from
the
auto
transcript,
so
that's
also
a
plus,
but
ask
yourself
how
accessible
was
the
information
on
the
screen
to
someone
with
low
or
no
vision
for
future
reference?
It's
a
good
idea
to
actually
say
aloud
the
website
links
in
the
specific
dates
that
are
on
the
screen
screen
readers
aren't
going
to
pick
that
up
for
a
blind
person,
city
staff
member,
michael
schermas,
organized
a
three-hour
meeting
recently,
where
topics
like
that
were
covered.
I'd
encourage
council
members
and
council
staff
to
review
that
recording.
K
A
A
Okay,
seeing
none
we
do
have
legislation
ready
for
second
reading
tonight.
H
Of
clarity,
yes,
that's
right
and
I
believe,
based
on
the
motion
we
adopted
unanimously
earlier.
If
the
administration
has
a
general
overview
presentation
and
if
there
are
general
questions,
we
would
actually
entertain
those
before
sequentially
introducing
the
resolutions,
so
that
would
be
appropriate
at
this
time.
I
believe
thank.
A
You
very
much
okay,
that's
they
know
if
we're
going
to
read
it
for
all
the
resolutions
that
are
as
a
group,
but
that
makes
sense
do
we
have
here
mayor
hamilton,
you
and
I
have
the
floor.
Sir.
You
care
to
present.
E
E
Tonight
we
are
asking
you
to
resume
the
city's
proposed
annexation
process
that
was
begun
four
years
ago
tonight.
We
will
outline
resolutions
to
update
the
fiscal
plans
for
each
of
the
eight
areas
adjacent
to
the
city
proposed
for
annexation,
and
then
amendments
to
update
the
previously
adopted
annexation.
Ordinances
tonight
involves
no
final
votes,
but
rather
is
picking
up
where
we
left
off
in
2017
to
update
information,
a
step
that
is
required
because
of
the
state
legislature's
precipitous
interruption
midway
through
that
orderly
process
four
years
ago,
as
most
are
fair.
E
Now
annexation
is
a
legal
process
to
adjust
a
city's
borders
to
reflect
changes
in
population
and
development.
We've
done
it
many
many
times
in
bloomington's,
long
history.
Indeed,
almost
everyone
living
in
bloomington
today
lives
on
property
that
was
once
outside
city
limits.
That
was
at
some
point
annexed
into
the
city
on
our
website.
You
can
see
detailed
maps
summarizing
decades
of
annexation,
since
1950
regular
annexation
has
been
essential
to
bloomington's
thriving
city.
E
Now,
unfortunately,
17
years
ago,
in
the
previous
administration,
bloomington's
pattern
of
regular
annexations
came
to
a
halt.
A
gen,
a
generation
of
bloomington
kids,
have
been
born
and
will
finish
high
school
without
any
updating
of
our
borders,
but
population
and
development
have
continued
very
actively
for
the
past
17
years,
including
in
these
areas
proposed
for
annexation.
E
The
residential
density
of
these
areas,
next
to
our
boundaries
among
other
attributes,
makes
them
often
indistinguishable
from
the
city
put
another
way
ours.
Our
existing
city
boundaries
are
out
of
date.
They
no
longer
represent
the
on
the
ground
realities
of
our
community
and
if
a
growing
thriving
community
doesn't
keep
our
borders
current,
then
disparities
inefficiencies
and
imbalances
arise.
E
In
a
moment,
corporation
council,
philippa
guthrie
will
discuss
the
legal
process
and
our
consultant
with
ready
financial
will
present
the
updated
fiscal
plans
which
detail
the
city's
commitment
to
providing
services
to
the
annexation
areas,
the
costs
to
the
city
of
providing
additional
services,
the
manner
for
paying
for
the
services
and
the
projected
impacts
to
other
taxing
units
and
property
owners,
including
detailed
parcel
impact
reports.
E
It
is
important
to
note
as
well
that
the
annexation
is
proposed
to
become
effective
in
2024,
with
property
taxes
payable
the
following
year
in
2025,
a
timeline
designed
to
allow
adequate
transition
time,
as
we
pick
up
where
we
left
off
four
years
ago.
Thank
you
for
your
stewardship
of
our
thriving
growing
community.
E
N
N
N
The
annexation
statutes
required
us
to
take
certain
actions
that
we
had
already
taken.
We
had
gone
halfway
through,
we
had
held
six
public
outreach
meetings,
adopted
the
fiscal
plans
and
introduced
ordinances
for
the
proposed
areas,
and
we
had
scheduled
and
noticed,
but
not
yet
held
the
public
hearing.
N
N
N
N
In
addition,
area
1a
needs
amendment
because
several
parcels
needed
to
be
removed
from
that
area.
The
reason
is,
these
are
cooked
parcels.
Food
group
incorporated
owns
them
and
it
is
because
cook
and
the
city
signed
a
15-year
agreement
in
lieu
of
annexation
in
october
2017,
under
which
cook
agreed
to
make
annual
payments
to
the
city
in
exchange
for
the
city,
not
annexing
the
parcels
in
that
area.
That
agreement
by
the
way
was
approved
by
the
council.
N
Please
note
that
your
actions
tonight
do
not
mean
that
the
fiscal
plans
are
finalized
or
that
the
annexations
are
completed.
By
adopting
the
amended
fiscal
plans,
you
will
simply
be
acknowledging
the
plans
detail
the
administration's
commitment
to
providing
services
if
the
areas
are
ultimately
annexed
and
amending
the
ordinances
just
brings
them
into
accord
with
the
updated
plans.
N
N
So
again
tonight
we
are
simply
resuming
the
legal
process
and
asking
you
to
update
the
documents
over
the
next
few
months.
We
will
continue
to
discuss
the
areas
and
their
corresponding
fiscal
plans,
and
we
fully
expect
that
there
may
be
further
refinement
and
amendment
to
both
annexation
areas
and
fiscal
plans.
N
N
C
N
Appropriate
before
you
take
any
final
vote,
thank
you
for
continuing
to
address
this
proposal.
The
administration
welcomes
the
opportunity
to
work
with
you
on
these
important
plans
for
bloomington's
future,
I'm
here
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions
after
the
other
speakers,
and
there
are
other
staff
members
here
as
well:
jeff
underwood
mike
brooker
and
steve
unger,
who
is
our
outside
annexation,
council
and
I'd
now
like
to
introduce
tim
stricker
from
reedy
who
will
be
presenting
with
information
on
the
plans.
O
O
So
a
brief
history
here,
as
I
said,
and
as
others
have
said
before
me,
the
city
did
finish
the
version
3.0
of
the
annexation
proposal,
which
was
publicly
released
in
may
of
2017.
soon.
After
that,
all
the
city's
process
was
halted
by
the
special
legislation
and
that
special
legislation.
I
know
I'm
repeating
this
was
deemed
unconstitutional
by
the
indiana
supreme
court.
O
O
O
O
O
One
of
the
other
big
changes
is
that
the
sorry
is
that
the
monroe
fire
protection
district
continues
to
merge
with
more
townships
now.
Essentially,
what
this
has
done
is
the
the
property
tax
rate
in
2020
for
the
monroe
fire
protection
district
was
16
1630
and
then
in
2021
it
went
up
to
38.90
it's
about
139
percent
increase
the
statute.
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
The
median
is
434
dollars,
the
percentage
of
the
mean
that
is
attributable
to
annexation
is
78,
the
average
decrease
to
the
over
65
properties
is
33
and
the
median
is
also
33
dollars
for
all
annexation
areas.
Combined,
the
average
increase
is
604,
the
average
decrease
sorry,
the
average
median
is
520,
83
of
the
mean
is
attributable
to
annexation.
O
O
So
for
area
1a,
which
again
is
the
southwest
annexation
area,
the
average
increase
is
1
556
dollars,
the
median
is
568
dollars
and
the
percentage
of
the
average
attributable
to
annexation
is
83
percent
area
1b,
which
is
still
the
southwest
annexation
area.
The
average
increase
is
842,
the
median
is
688
dollars
and
the
percentage
of
the
average
attributable
to
annexation
is
85
for
area
1c.
O
Area
3,
the
average
increase
is
464.,
the
median
is
236
dollars
and
the
percentage
of
the
mean
attributable
to
annexation
is
79
for
area
4.
The
average
increase
is
572
dollars,
the
median
is
369
dollars
and
the
percentage
of
the
average
attributable
annexation
is
eighty-six
percent
for
area
five.
The
average
increase
is
four
thousand
eighty-two
dollars.
O
O
O
O
So
when
we
net
the
property
tax
cap
decrease
against
the
other
allocation
adjustments
and
compare
that
to
the
levy
growth.
We
end
up
with
a
sixty
one
thousand
four
hundred
eighty
four
dollar
positive
for
benton
township
for
bloomington
township.
The
same
the
same
thing
is
happening:
we're
actually
decreasing
the
property
tax
caps
by
around
five
percent
compared
to
their
2021
property
tax
levy.
O
O
O
For
van
buren
township
we're
showing
a
property
tax
cap
increase
of
around
eight
hundred
dollars
or
point
two
percent
of
the
property
tax
levy
in
2021,
then
another
approximate
51
000
of
adjustments
from
annexation
netting
this
against
the
levy
increase
or
the
total
levy
in
2025
projected
at
seventy.
Eight
thousand
four
hundred
one
dollars
we're
showing
a
net
positive
of
twenty
six
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
for
the
monroe
fire
protection
district.
O
Now
it
is
worth
noting
down
here
at
the
bottom.
There
is
no
guarantee
that
the
maximum
levy
growth
will
continue
to
be
4.2
every
year.
However,
it
is
worth
noting
that
it's
all,
but
guaranteed
in
2022,
to
be
at
least
4.2,
because
there's
actually
a
large
growth
year
being
added
on
to
the
six
year.
Average
calculation.
O
O
E
O
Absolutely
yeah,
so
to
summarize,
bloomington
is
really
the
second
lowest
rate
among
all
comparable
cities
at
two
dollars
and
fifty
four
cents.
The
lowest
is
fissures,
and
the
reason
why
this
is
important
is
because
even
post
annexation
bloomington
is
still
going
to
have
one
of
the
lowest
taxing
district
rates
in
the
aggregate.
I'm
sorry,
on
average,
of
all
these
comparable.
O
O
A
E
A
Okay,
thank
you.
As
promotion
earlier
we'll
now
move
to
questions
from
counselors
and
we'll
start
with
council
member
volume.
D
Thank
you.
Mr
president,
thanks
for
the
presentation
very
interesting
update,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
The
first
is:
let's
see
if
I
have
this
written
down
right,
if
the
fiscal
plans
need
to
be
reduced
because
some
portion
of
an
area
gets
cut
in
the
course
of
our
annexation
deliberations,
do
we
have
to
amend
the
resolutions
that
we
might
adopt
tonight
because
they
reflect
the
fiscal
plan
changes.
D
So,
in
other
words,
the
adoption
of
any
resolution
tonight
is
not
really
binding
it
just
it's.
It
kicks
off
the
contemplation
of
the
ordinances.
D
Okay,
and
so,
if
for
through
some
action,
we
decide
to
reduce
some
area
of
some
part
of
an
area
intended
for
annexation.
We
have
to
adopt
a
new
resolution
or
update
the
one
that
we're
considering
tonight.
A
K
K
Well,
that
may
also
be
a
question
for
steve
unger.
My
understanding
would
be
that
we
would
update
a
new
resolution,
given
that
excuse
me,
we
have
already
adopted
fiscal
planes
back
in
2017
via
resolution,
and
so
what
we're
doing
tonight
is
updating
updated
fiscal
plans
with
these
new
resolutions,
and
my
understanding
is
that
any
any
future
updates
to
the
fiscal
planes
may
also
need
to
be
approved
by
a
new
resolution.
I
don't
know
if
steve
unger
has
any
anything
to
add
or
any
corrections
there.
P
No,
I
would
I
would
agree.
I
would
also
say
it
also
can
depend
on
how
significant
of
the
changes
you
would
make
to
the
area
are
to
the
areas.
If
they
were
small
changes.
It
may
be
that
we
would
not
have
to
necessarily
update
the
fiscal
plan,
but
certainly
if
there
were
significant
changes
we
would
want
to
make
updates,
probably
using.
D
So
the
thing
is,
we
would
be
amending
an
annexation
ordinance
in
order
to
remove
some
area
out
of
it.
Then
we'd
have
to
go
back
and
create
a
new
resolution
to
reflect.
The
new
fiscal
plan
for
that
area
is
that
that
would
only
happen
after
the
annexation.
Ordinance
that
was
amended
is
adopted.
Is
that
right.
P
No,
what
well
I
did.
I
I
I'll
defer,
certainly
to
the
council
in
terms
of
the
process
they
want
to
go
through
to
amend
it.
I
think
that's
why
one
of
the
requests
that
we've
had
in
looking
at
this
is
that
we
have
an
idea
before
we
get
to
before
we
get
to
final
adoption
or
consideration
of
final
adoption
in
september
of
what
these
areas
are
going,
what
we
think
they're
going
to
look
like
in
final
form,
so
that
there
is
an
opportunity
to
prepare
those
resolutions,
updated
resolutions
and
updated
fiscal
plans.
P
D
Okay,
well,
the
thing
is
that
the
any
changes
to
a
given
annexation
area
in
one
of
the
ordinances
would
be
amended
by
us
in
the
course
of
considering
the
ordinance,
not
the
resolution.
D
K
I
I
think
I
can
speak
to
that,
and
philip
and
steve
can
add
to
this.
If
they'd
like
to
the
august
4th
public
hearing
will
be
an
opportunity
for
the
council
to
receive
not
only
public
comment,
but
also
to
discuss
those
ordinances
and
then
following
that
date,
the
council
may
need
to
think
about
scheduling
an
additional
meeting
to
to
take
up
and
consider
any
amendments
to
the
ordinances
in
advance
of
that
september.
K
15Th
date
that
we've
come
up
with
for
a
final
vote,
for
this
very
reason
so
that
the
council
can
can
discuss
and
possibly
vote
on
any
changes
to
the
areas
with
enough
lead
time
for
for
the
consultants
to
update
the
fiscal
plans
as
a
result.
So.
D
K
They
are
being
amended
potentially
amended
tonight
and
then
yes,
there
are
several
months
ahead
where
the
count
could
consider
amendments
to
the
ordinances
up
until
up
until
the
vote,
but
as
as
mr
unger
mentioned,
depending
on
the
scope
of
the
change,
it
may
be
difficult
to
then
update
the
fiscal
plans.
You
know
following
any
amendments.
Thank.
I
And
if
I
might
just
jump
in
michael
rooker
city
attorney
for
the
city,
I
did
also
want
to
mention
it's
not
just
the
fiscal
plans
that
need
to
be
updated
in
the
event
of
a
change.
The
legal
descriptions
also
need
to
be
rewritten,
and
that
takes
time
as
well.
So
there
are
several
reasons
why
we
need
some
lead
time
to
make
sure
everything
is
legal
right.
D
K
I
I
think,
that's
correct,
I'm
seeing
some
head
nods
and-
and
I
know
we
also
have
our
our
annual
departmental
budget
hearing
scheduled
for,
I
believe,
the
week
of
august
23rd.
So
that's
just
another
wrinkle
to
to
add
in
here,
but
I
think
your
time
frame
is
correct.
As
I
understand
it,.
L
Yes,
could
mr
stricker
put
the
chart
of
revenue
impact
on
overlapping
units
back
on
the
screen?
Please
I
have
a
question
about.
H
B
L
O
L
So
what
does
that
column
mean
then
projected
other
allocation
adjustments?
If
it's.
O
L
Okay,
so
then
the
second
to
last
column
on
the
right,
then
we
see
the
net
impact
is
about
1.8
million.
L
A
C
K
The
the
time
open
mr
unger
may
may
be
able
to
jump
in
here.
P
Yeah-
and
I
can
I
can
maybe
answer
that
there's
it's
important
to
remember
that
annexation
is
a
is
very.
The
process
is
very
specifically
outlined
by
statute
once
we
hold
the
public
hearing
and
currently
set
for
august
4th,
you
have
a
window
of
time,
30
and
60
day
between
30
and
60
days
after
that
public
hearing
in
which
you
could
adopt
the
annexation
ordinances,
if
you
did
not
adopt
them
in
some
form
in
that
30
to
60
day
window,
you
would
have
to
restart
the
process
over
again.
C
I
see
so
we
would
have
until
mid-october
say,
cro
or
early
october.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
allo
did
I
see
your
hand,
councilmember
smith,
okay
and
then
council,
member
clarity
after
that,
go
ahead.
Council
members.
F
A
F
F
You
can
ask
a
couple:
okay,
mr
striker.
I'm
gonna
ask
you
to
explain
a
little
bit
about
if
somebody's
over
65
in
their
bill,
their
tax
is
actually
going
to
go
down,
60
or
80
bucks
whatever.
F
If
you
want
you
can
put
that
screen
up.
If
you
don't
want,
that's
fine,
but
explain
to
me
what
how
that
works
and
how
those
folks
said
are
senior
citizens
or
persons
with
disability.
How
is
that
gonna?
How
is
that
gonna
happen?.
O
F
Okay,
so
that
didn't
help
me
at
all
explain
it
try
to
help
me
out
so
that
myself
can
understand
it
and
somebody
listening
can
understand
it
too.
So,
if
there's,
if,
if
there
are
65
or
they're
68
and
they're
in
the
they're
in
the
areas
that
are
maybe
going
to
be
annexed,
how
are
they
not
subject
to
the
increases.
I
So
I'm
gonna-
this
is
mike
rooker
city
attorney.
I'm
gonna
jump
in
to
be
eligible
for
the
over
65
circuit,
breaker
credit.
There
are
four
requirements:
number
one
you
have
to
be
over
the
age
of
65.
number:
two.
You
have
to
be
occupying
the
property
in
question
as
your
primary
residence
number
three,
the
assessed
value
of
the
property
has
to
be
200,
000
or
less
and
number
four.
You
have
to
meet
certain
adjusted
gross
income
requirements.
Those
requirements
vary
depending
on
whether
or
not
you
file
your
taxes
jointly
or
as
an
individual.
I
So
it's
designed
to
protect
seniors
who
are
on
a
fixed
income
and
live
in
sort
of
an
average
priced
home
when
they're
in
the
retirement
years
from
being
subject
to
excessive
property
taxes.
If
you
meet
all
of
those
requirements
and
mr
stricker,
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
I
think
that
the
circuit
breaker
for
property
tax
purposes
kicks
in
to
prevent
any
increase
in
property
taxes
year-over-year
greater
than
two
percent.
I
So
when
you
take
into
account
the
other
factors,
mr
stricker
mentioned
like
like
growth
and
assessed
value,
and
in
addition
to
that
savings
in
in
in
certain
other
areas,
for
example,
our
waste,
your
wastewater
rates
will
go
down
when
you
you
come
into
the
city,
because
there
are
differential
rates
for
municipal
and
non-municipal
residents
for
waste
water.
Those
savings
will
actually
create
a
net
savings
to
individuals
who
are
eligible
for
that
circuit.
Breaker
credit.
Does
that
make
sense.
F
F
Interrupting
okay!
Well,
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
rooker.
I
really
do
appreciate
that
because
it
does
get
confusing
and
explain
a
little
bit.
Mr
s
striker.
When
we're
talking
about
the
ability,
the
levy
is
4.2
percent,
that
is
the
assessed
value
increase.
F
What
talk
about
that
assumption
a
little
bit
for
me
so
that
I
understand
what
that
means
in
relation
to
the
taxes.
O
F
And
that
that's
the
assessed
value
and
if
we
had
a
2008
housing
crash
that
then
the
4.2
that
would
be
a
false
assumption.
At
that
point,.
O
Yes,
it's
really
going
to
be
a
delay
because
it's
a
six
year,
average
calculation,
so
you're
going
to
have
three
or
four
actually
at
this
point
five
years
of
a
very
good
growth
across
the
state
statewide.
H
Thank
you
and
thank
you
all
for
presenters
for
for
presenting.
I
had
had
some
similar
questions
about
the
assumptions
underlying
average
levy,
growth
of
4.2
percent
and
a
12
net
increase
in
assessed
value.
H
I'm
not
sure
I
guess
was
there
consideration
given
or
calculations
done
to
consider
a
range
a
you
know,
a
conservative
middle
of
the
road
and
a
liberal
set
of
assumptions
for
both
levee
growth
and
assessed
value
growth
or
increase
assumptions.
And,
if
not,
is
that
possible
and
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it
necessarily
affects
the
overall
picture?
But
maybe
if
anybody
could
comment
on
how
a
conservative
and
middle
of
the
road
and
a
liberal
set
of
assumptions
for
those
things
might
affect
the
overall.
E
It
would
do
sorry
before
you
do
that,
just
I'm
going
to
be
a
layman
here,
a
little
bit
just
to
make
sure
we're
all
kind
of
on
the
same
page,
and
then
tim
certainly
talk
about
that.
So
the
assessed
value
growth
is
a
pure
projection
of
what
will
happen.
I
think
that's
a
relatively
conservative
projection,
as
you
heard,
comparing
an
18
four-year
growth
in
projecting,
instead
of
12
four-year
growth.
E
That
totally
depends
upon
the
actual
on
the
ground,
assessed
value
that
happens
in
our
community
over
the
next
four
years,
and
I
think
that's
been
conservative.
The
levy
growth
is
done.
It
doesn't
it's
done
by
the
state
in
determining
through
a
formula
based
on
the
past
six
years
of
non-farm
income,
etc,
etc.
E
What
the
levy
growth
will
be
that
they
then
tell
the
community
it's
only
partially
based
on
reality
in
the
in
the
world
and
that
projected
levy.
Growth
of
4.2
percent
is
also
relatively
conservative,
as
tim
mentioned,
because
we
know
that
we're
we're
dropping
off
some
lower
years
and
picking
up
some
higher
years,
at
least
for
a
little
while
and
it's
projecting
what
the
state
will
say.
The
levy
growth
allowed
is
those
two
numbers,
then
it's
only
math
that
determines
the
property
tax
rate.
E
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
thoughts
and
I
look
forward
to
mr
stricker's
answer
as
well.
I'll
add
just
a
small
bit
there,
based
on
what
mayor
hamilton
said
about
dropping
off
some
some
lower
growth
in
income
years
from
the
six
year
rolling
average.
I'm
not.
I
don't
know
offhand
how
that
six
year
window
lines
up
with
the
current
time.
So,
if
we're
adding
some
some
higher
years
for
next
year's
levy,
for
instance,
when
will
the
pandemic
years
specifically
economic
impacts
from
2020.
H
When
will
those
come
into
the
six-year
rolling
average
and
perhaps
moderate
and
some
to
some
extent
the
the
levy
growth?
If
that
could
be
included
in
the
answer
as
well,
to
be
helpful,.
Q
I
I
can
jump
in
there
matt
it's
a
year
behind
so
essentially
they'll
take
the
20
20
calorie
year,
based
on
20
filings
in
2021
for
that
new
year,
and
then
they'll
drop
off
the
prior
year
from
that
and
then
it'll
adjust
every
year
after
that,
as
the
mayor
said,
yes,
we're
dropping
off
the
last
of
the
downturn
years.
The
projection
so
far
is
either
a
flat
or
some
growth
in
that
rate
for
the
pandemic,
which
we're
happy
to
hear.
Q
We
won't
know
that
number
until
august,
you
know
so
we
we
get
that
fairly
late
in
the
budget
process
and
we'll
update
you
on
that
and
what
the
historic
numbers
have
been
and,
as
the
mayor
said,
these
are
all
projections
to
push
out
because
of
the
effective
dates
of
the
annexation.
Q
We
did
discuss
these
growth
rates
and
and
kind
of
picked
the
middle
of
the
road
number
on
both
of
those
and,
as
the
mayor
said,
one
is
the
growth
in
the
in
the
assessed
value
which
monroe
county
and
bloomington
has
seen
fairly
good
growth.
We've
only
had
one
down
year,
I
think.
Q
Even
during
the
last
recession,
there
was
one
year
that
it
went
down
slightly
other
than
that
it's
grown
very
well
over
the
past
six,
seven
eight
years
and
based
on
you
know
what
we've
seen
as
far
as
building
permits
and
those
kinds
of
things
and
actual
construction
going
on.
We
think
that
number
is
going
to
continue
to
rise,
as
well
as
the
levy
and
again
that
levy
rate
is
applied
throughout
the
state.
Every
unit
of
government
gets
the
exact
same
levy
increase,
regardless
of
how
well
the
local
area
does.
Q
Q
And
then,
obviously,
any
any
changes
to
the
raids
would
either
increase
or
decrease
the
impacts
or
projected
revenues
both
for
us
and
on
the
overlapping
units
of
government.
So
you
know,
we've
tried
to
take
a
middle-of-the-road
approach
and
again
their
projections.
Q
H
I
guess
just
a
small
follow-up
and
that's
very
helpful
to
kind
of
hear
a
little
bit
about
the
underlying
assumptions
and
how
conservative
or
liberal
you
think
they
are.
Is
it
safe
to
say,
based
on
your
remarks,
mr
underwood,
that
that,
even
if
the
projections
turn
out
to
be
off
by
you
know,
let's
say
a
percentage
point
in
the
case,
the
levy
or
a
few
percentage
points
in
the
case
of
the
av
growth,
you
don't
feel
like
that.
H
Would
meaningfully
necessarily
change
the
picture
in
terms
of
kind
of
the
decision-making
framework
for
how
we
would
pursue
this
process.
It
wouldn't
if
a
couple
of
assumptions
were
different
or
you
know
it
turns
out
a
little
different
in
reality,
it
doesn't
entirely
undermine
the
case.
That's
been
built
or
something
like
that.
Q
Yeah,
no,
I
I
don't
believe
it
that
it
would
and
if
you
in
the
plans
themselves,
we
kind
of
give
a
min
and
a
max
on
revenues
and
expenditures,
so
you
do
kind
of
get
that
range
of
what
we're
looking
at
there
as
well,
but
in
either
one
of
those
scenarios
or
anything
in
between.
We
feel
comfortable
that
we'll
be
able
to
provide
the
services,
and
it
will
have
sufficient
revenues
to
do
so.
Okay,
thank.
H
A
J
J
J
If,
if
I'm
understanding
correctly
richland
and
salt
creek
would
both
come
in
and
be
protected
by
bloomington
fire,
but
the
others
wouldn't
correct?
Okay,
can
you
talk
through
just
that
first
bullet
again,
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
what's
happening.
Q
Let
me
jump
in
to
say
as
well.
It
would
only
be
those
areas
of
the
township
that
we
would
be
annexing.
The
other
areas
of
those
townships
would
remain
in
whatever
area.
I
think
that
they
contract
the
city
of
ellisville
for
fire
protection
in
richland,
so
whatever
areas
are
not
annexed
would
continue
to
receive
service
in
the
fashion
they're
currently
doing
today,.
J
Q
That's
correct
and
that's
the
case
today,
like
in
bloomington,
township
and
perry
where
there's
perry,
city
and
perry
county,
the
fire
protection
is
provided
by
different
groups.
So
it's
not
unusual
to
see
that.
J
Q
I'll,
let
him
go
into
the
detail,
but
essentially
what
we
tried
to
analyze
was
over
the
period
of
time
that
we're
talking
about
what
would
be
the
impacts
due
to
our
piece
of
the
annexation
and
what
would
be
the
impacts
of
the
growth
in
the
rate
for
the
monroe
fire
protection
district
and
essentially,
it
boils
down
to
their
rate,
is
around
39
cents
and
ours,
our
rates
around
12
and
a
half
cents,
so
it
impacts
the
increase
in
the
rates,
the
levees
and
the
tax
cap.
O
I
Council
member
scandalary
just
to
expound
also
on
that
third
bullet
point:
there
did
you
with
regard
to
iso
ratings.
Iso
ratings
are
a
measure
of
a
number
of
components
of
a
fire
department's
capability
and
the
the
lower
the
rating.
The
better
the
city
of
bloomington
currently
has
the
second
best
rating
as
a
two
and
the
fire
protection
district
is
currently
rated
as
a
four.
A
Thank
you,
council
members,
ken
blurry.
I
do
believe
the
council
member
bowling,
that's
next
and
then
council,
member
piedmont,
smith
and
then
council,
member
smith.
If
I
have
it
correctly.
D
Thank
you,
mr
president,
a
couple
of
follow-ups
to
questions
from
other
members.
D
I
I'll
do
my
best
to
answer
that
steve
or
tim
may
have
some
input
here,
but
I
think
you're
simply
ineligible
for
the
over
65
credit.
The
assessed
value
of
your
home
exceeds
200
000.
Now
the
state
legislature
has
periodically
updated
that
figure
and
increased
it
appropriately.
So
that
may
continue
to
happen,
but
I
think
that's
just
a
cutoff
point:
council
member
volun.
D
Thank
you,
that's
good.
The
other
follow-up
question
was
just
now
what
councilman
scandal
larry
asked
about,
so
you've
got
a
parcel
in
the
city,
that's
been
in
next,
but
it's
served
by
the
fire
protection
district
and
they're
eligible
for
tax
caps,
which
taxing
entity
wins
out
in
that
like,
in
other
words,
if,
if
I
I
guess,
I
don't
get
how
tax
caps
work.
If
there's
a
conflict
like
that.
Q
And
mike
can
follow
up
in
case.
I
say
this
incorrectly.
If
they're
currently
served
by
the
monroe
county
fire
protection
district,
they
will
continue
to
be
served
by
that
district
after
annexation.
If
they
get
taken
over
or
get
brought
into
the
district
prior
to
annexation,
they
would
stay
with
the
monroe
county,
fire
protection,
district
and
and
philip
or
mike,
and
talk
about
it.
D
But
that
that's
what
I
mean
is
about
the
the
revenue,
in
other
words,
if
they
were
broadened,
if
they're
served
by
the
fire
protection
district
they're
paying
a
38
cent
rate,
as
opposed
to
a
12
cent
rate
that
we
would
charge.
That's.
Q
D
They're
eligible
for
tax
caps,
like
whose
revenue
gets
reduced.
P
D
Okay,
I've
got
another
question,
but
I
can
hold
it
for
others.
Thank
you
all.
A
Thank
you
and
before
we
go
to
customer
piedmont
smith,
I
will
just
ask
those
that
are
answering
questions
to
please
identify
yourself,
I'm
not
so
sure
all
of
our
listeners
are
watching
and
just
may
be
listening.
So
thank
you,
council,
member
pete,
my
smith.
L
Yes,
when
we
first
discussed
annexation
in
2017,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
city
clerk
for
forwarding
those
minutes-
we
talked
about
what
legally
defines
an
urbanized
area
and
so
how
you
know
we're
trying
to
understand
better
how
the
city
administration
decided
on
the
initial
boundaries
of
the
initial
proposal.
L
Can
somebody
speak
to
how
an
urbanized
area
is
defined
and
what,
in
in
the
legal
system,
does
something
have
to
be
defined
as
an
urbanized
area
to
be
annexed?
Can
somebody
delve
into
that?
For
me?
Please.
P
I
can
maybe
I
can
maybe
help
answer
it,
and
I
will
you
know:
there's
urbanization
is
something
that's
if
you
look
in
the
cases
that
address
annexation
going
back
80
years,
they
talk
about
a
preference
for
municipalities
to
annex
or
when
a
municipality
is
annexing
urbanized
areas,
there's
more
deference
and
the
preference
that
the
municipality
be
allowed
to
proceed
with
it.
That
doesn't
mean
that
you
can
only
annex
areas
that
are
urbanized
and
in
fact
now
in
the
process.
P
But
when
you,
if
you
do
get
into
a
remonstrance-
and
I
think
when
we
talked
about
this
in
2017,
it
was
in
that
context
there
is,
the
municipality,
can
either
annex
urbanized
territory
or
you
can
annex
areas
that
are
needed
and
can
be
used
for
the
municipalities
development
in
the
reasonably
near
future.
P
The
legislature
has
defined
in
a
remonstrance
process
urbanized
which
there's
there
are
there
are
lots
of.
There
are
lots
of
elements
to
a
remonstrance
trial
and
there
are
lots
of
shifting
burdens
of
proof.
So
this
really
oversimplifies
things,
but
an
urbanized
area
and
remonstrance
process
is
defined
as
three
three
for
residential
areas:
three
persons
per
acre,
zoned,
commercial
business
for
commercial
business
or
industrial
use
or
60
subdivided.
P
So
that's
how
they
define
urbanized.
You
either
there's
different
paths.
You
can
go
down,
but
that
is
one
of
the
paths
in
a
remonstrance
trial.
It
is
not,
though,
a
requirement
that
territory
actually
be
urbanized
in
order
to
annex
it.
It's
it's
only
an
issue.
If
you
get
into
a
remonstrance.
L
F
Thank
you,
president
sims,
following
up
on
mr
vollen's,
ask
about
the
amount
of
how
much
a
house
is
worth
and
whether
the
person's
going
to
be
eligible
for
the
circuit
breaker
and
protect
them
on
fixed
income.
Do
we
know
how
many
parcels
are
out
there
in
annexation
world
that
are
going
to
be
affected
related
to
you
know
somebody
who's
65
or
has
a
disability,
and
they
their
assessed
value,
is
over
200,
000
or
under
200
000.
F
So
we
know
the
whole
population
do
we
know
how
that's
going
to
shake
out.
P
I
I'll
kind
of
maybe
start
off
steve
unger
and
tim
can
jump
in
reading
financial
did
a
parcel
by
parcel
analysis
where
every
property
owner
is
able
to
go
and
see
what
the
projected
impact
is
based
on
the
assumptions
that
you
talked
about
earlier
to
determine
what
the
projected
impact
is
going
to
be
on
their
taxes
and
other
offsets,
and
I
believe
in
doing
that
analysis.
They
identified
that
by
in
that
personal
bipartisan
analysis,
they
identify
properties
that
are
already
receiving
the
65
credit,
the
65
and
over
credit.
I
And
I
will
I
will
just
comment
as
well
steve
I've
received
when
individuals
have
called
to
ask
what
the
property
impact
will
be
on
their
parcel
or
in
some
cases,
parcels
that
they
own
in
the
annexation
areas.
It's
pretty
easy
to
identify
those
individual
parcels
where
somebody
has
filed
the
over
65
paperwork
with
the
auditor
and
so
they're
eligible.
For
that
credit,
you
can
identify
those
right
away.
I
have
not
gone
through
council
member
smith
and
counted
the
total
number
of
over
65
parcels.
I
O
O
F
Okay,
well,
if
you
will,
will
you
send
that,
along
to
the
council,
if
the,
if
you
have
when
you
have
a
chance,
yeah.
F
F
D
Thanks
again,
mr
president,
so
here's
sort
of
a
big
question:
the
city
prevailed
at
court
at
the
supreme
court
in
december,
allowing
this
conversation
to
happen
that
and
they
the
supreme
court,
said
that
the
state
acted
illegally.
D
D
P
I
I
will
say
that
is
a
good
question.
It
is
something
that
we
discussed
quite
a
bit.
Actually,
if
you
read
the
statutory
language
it
affecting
the
fire
districts
number
one
it's,
it
applies
to
it's
written
more
broadly,
the
way
that
other
statutes
are
written
with
respect
to
assessed
values
being
a
trigger
for
how
they
apply.
It
only
applies.
If
there
is
the
statute
says
it
applies.
If
the
fire
protection
district
has
a
net
av
of
one
billion
dollars,
I
believe,
and
that's
more
how
the
legislature
has
written
that
type
of
legislation.
P
In
the
past
we
thought
I
think
it
was
important
to
be
clear
on
how
we
were
reading
that
statute
and
who
was
going
to
be
the
fire
provider
there.
It
does.
It
also
reads
that
it
applies
based
off
of
when
you
adopt
when
the
annexation
ordinance
is
adopted,
which
is
also
consistent
with
how
other
legislation
has
been
written.
D
I
appreciate
that,
but
I
mean
in
this
case
the
state
acted
illegally
to
thwart,
and
then
they
wrote
this
law
after
are
I
mean
it's
almost
like
they
did
it
so
that
they
could
write
laws
to
prevent
the
impact
of
annexation,
something
that
is
also
a
right
given
by
the
state
to
municipalities
to
cities.
So
I
don't
see
why
the
formation
of
the
fire
protection
district
is
even
legal
or
like
if
it
doesn't,
if
it
isn't
trumped
by
our
initial
effort
to
nx
in
2017
that
we're
resuming
now.
P
Yeah,
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
valid
point
and
it
is
a
good
argument
and
I
do
think
that
there
is
an
argument
to
be
made
there.
If
you
read
the
fiscal
plan
for
for
those
that
have
an
opportunity
to
go
through
it,
it
assumes
that
we
will
not
be
the
fire
provider
and
that
that
law
applies
to.
D
P
Areas
that
are
annexed,
but
it
also
outlines
how
if
the
city
is
allowed
or
a
determination,
is
made
that
that
statute
does
not
apply
or
is
invalid
or
is
illegal,
that
we
are
able
ready,
willing
and
able
to
provide
service
fire
service
to
all
of
the
annexation
areas,
which
is
really
what
you.
What
you
need
to
do
in
a
fiscal
plan
is
make
a
commitment
that
you
are
abe,
can
well
and
are
able
to
provide
municipal
services,
capital
and
non-capital
services
to
the
annexation
areas,
consistent
with
how
you
provide
them
within
the
city
now.
D
Well
so
then
I
guess
the
big
follow-up
question
to
the
administration
is:
is
there
any
automatic
review
or
maybe
it's
to
anybody
who's
on
this
call?
Is
there
an
automatic
review
of
the
validity
of
that
statute,
or
does
the
city
have
to
sue.
P
I
think
it
could
come
up
in
one
of
two
ways:
either
the
city
or
someone
else
files
a
lawsuit
against
the
state
similar
to
they've
done
in
the
past
or
you
it
could
come
up
in
a
remonstrance
trial
or
there
there
are
processes
later
on
where
you
could
get
in.
It
could
be
raised,
probably
through
the
tax
courts,
but
there
that's
a
whole
another
issue
in
process,
but
I
think
without
somebody
raising
it
in
some
form
of
litigation,
I
don't
or
an
agreement
being
reached
out
reached
between
the
parties.
E
I
would
just
say
it's:
it's
complicated
and
we've
tried
to
approach
this
in
a
in
the
in
the
way
that's
most
practical,
which
is
to
to
we
have
to
pick
a
direction
and
go
that
way
and
if
it
changes
we're
ready
to
change
with
it.
But
we
didn't
want
to
have
uncertainty
through
the
process.
I
think
we
needed
to
we
needed
to
choose
a
way
to
go
forward.
D
Well,
I
I
think
what
you
did
was
the
correct
way
to
address
both
possibilities,
and
I
appreciate
that
I
just
didn't
know
if
there
was
any
kind
of
automatic
judicial
review
of
of
that
subsequent
action.
That
happened
only
as
a
result
of
the
illegal
action
taken
by
the
general
assembly.
L
Yes,
thank
you,
president
sims.
I
wanted
to
ask
about
water
and
sewer
hook-on
costs.
So,
of
course,
the
city
bloomington
utilities
does
provide
service
to
people
outside
the
city.
Limits
currently
I'll,
be
at
a
higher
rate,
but
can
can
somebody
review
for
me
if,
if,
if
a
residential
homeowner,
if
their
property
is
part
of
an
annexation
area,
they're
annexed,
but
they
don't
currently
have
city
sewer
or
water,
what
would
they
have
to
do
both
in
the
actions
and
what
would
they
have
to
pay
in
order
to
get
on
city
water?
L
I
mean
you
know
there
may
be
other
circumstances
that
need
to
be
considered,
but
could
somebody
give
me
an
idea
of
that?
How
that
would
work.
N
Account
right,
I
will
weigh
in
I
know
you
had
this
question
isabelle
and
we
talked
to
vic
kelson
about
it,
and
I
am
pulling
up
what
his
response
was
I'll.
Just
read
it
for
new
residential
customers.
The
one-time
connection
fee
for
water
is
one
thousand
five
hundred
and
thirty
three
dollars
and
for
sewer
it's
two
thousand
seven
hundred
and
seventy
five
dollars.
N
The
service
areas
for
water
utilities
were
settled
between
the
city
of
bloomington
utilities
and
cbu's
wholesale
customers.
Years
ago,
a
new
water
customer
will
seek
a
connection
based
on
the
service
area
in
which
the
property
is
located.
Cbu
will
extend
service
only
to
areas
within
its
service
area.
Some
customers
in
the
proposed
annex
annexation
areas
are
presently
served
by
cbu.
N
C
E
So
if
I
can
try
to
translate
that
and
that
just
deals
with
water,
I
think
so
cbu
provides
drinking
water
to
everybody
in
the
area.
E
We
do
it
either
directly
to
retail
customers
or
we
do
it
through
wholesale
contract
providers
and
what
I
think,
what
ms
guthrie
just
said
was
we
have
boundaries
set
with
those
wholesale
customers
that
they
get
to
provide
all
the
retail
customers
in
their
area
and
cbu
provides
the
retail
water
service
in
all
the
other
areas,
and
if
you
don't,
if
you're
not
currently
on
retail
water
service,
whoever
whichever
area
you're
in
is
who
you
would
go
to
to
get
the
hook
on
for
for
drinking
water
get
off
a
well.
E
For
example,
sewer
service
is
different.
We
don't
provide
sewer
service.
Cbu
does
not
provide
sewer
service
to
everybody
in
the
area.
There
are
a
number
of
other
providers,
and
many
people
are
on
septics
and
hooking
onto
the
sewer
system.
The
shortest
answer
I
can
give,
I
think,
it'd
be
accurate
and
others
can
correct
me.
Is
it
actually
doesn't
make
a
big
difference
in
hooking
on
whether
you're
inside
the
city
or
not
inside
the
city?
E
The
rate
may
be
different,
but
providing
that
service
is
really
a
question
of
fiscal
ability,
topographical
reach
and
it
it's
not
a
dramatic
difference,
whether
you're
inside
the
city
or
not.
There
are
people
inside
the
city
who
are
not
on
sewer
service
for
various
reasons,
and
there
are
many
people
outside
the
city
who
are
on
sewer
service,
so
the
annexation
doesn't
dramatically
change
the
the
the
way
you
get
on
sewer
service.
E
L
So
if
somebody
is
on
a
street
that
has
no
sewer
line
right,
then
they
can't
pay
that
2775
and
get
sewer
hookup,
because
there's
no
line
to
their
home
right.
E
That
that
would
take
the
system
putting
in
a
sewer
main
to
serve
a
bunch
of
customers
and
that's
a
transaction
that
has
to
be
done.
It
isn't
done
one
by
one.
That's
right.
L
E
Yes
and
I
with
cbu-
and
I
think
the
point
I'd
make
and
please
mr
rooker
help
me
out
if
I'm
squandering
or
wandering
around.
But
the
point
is
that
same
question.
If
you're
on
a
street
with
no
sewer,
whether
you're
in
the
city
or
outside
the
city,
you're
going
to
have
the
same
discussion
with
cbu
about
that.
I
And
just
a
michael
rooker
city
attorney
just
just
to
parrot
that
I
think
mayor
hamilton
is
correct
in
what
he
said,
but
council
member
piedmont
smith.
There
can
be
other
considerations
as
well.
Of
course
you
know
sewers
are
gravity
fed
and
so
often
times
there
are
engineering
barriers
to
service,
in
particular
geographic
spaces.
So
there
are
lots
of
considerations
that
would
have
to
be
taken
into
account.
It
really
would
be
case
specific,
so.
I
L
L
L
P
Yeah
yeah
that
that
that's
correct
annexation
does
not
change
the
utility
service
territories
except
to
the
extent
and
I'll
give
you
one
example,
and
I
there
there
is
actually
there
are
rules
that
govern
their
extension
of
mains
to
unserved
areas
and,
for
example,
if
the
revenue,
the
three-year
revenue
from
that
property,
is
going
to
exceed
the
cost
of
the
main,
then
the
city
in
the
city's
boundaries
is
required
to
extend
it
for
free,
but
you
are
not
required
to
do
that
outside
of
your
boundaries.
So
there
are.
P
There
are
walls
that
deal
with
the
extension
of
sewer
and
water
mains.
The
water
rules
have
always
applied
to
the
city.
There
was
a
change
in
the
statute
a
few
years
ago
that
expanded
it
to
sewer
municipal
sewer
utilities
as
well,
and
there
are
recoupment
functions
for
that
and
it's
it's
there's
a
three-year
revenue
allowance
and
subsequent
connector
fees
and
things
that
can
go
into
the
extending
of
those
facilities,
but
generally
you're.
You
would
need
to
re,
extend
those
to
areas
within
your
boundaries.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Do
we
have
any
further
questions
on
the
general
presentation?
I
will
remind
my
colleagues
that
there
will
be
an
opportunity
from
council
members
to
ask
for
the
questions
and
then
have
final
comments
before
we're
done
with
this.
So
do
we
have
any
further
questions
from
council
members?
A
Okay,
seeing
none,
I
believe
the
city
administration
now
has
enough.
I'm
sorry,
council,
member
clarity.
H
I
think
you
were
going
to
announce
the
next
steps,
but
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
it
will
require
a
motion
to
introduce
and
read
each
of
these
resolutions
by
title
and
synopsis
as
we
go.
They
do
need
to
be
properly
introduced
and
read
at
at
some
point
here
so
now
that
we've
disposed
of
a
general
overview
presentation,
we
can
do
that
successfully.
H
Yes,
it's
the
the
introduction
and
reading
by
the
clerk
by
title
and
synopsis
only
will
serve
as
the
introduction
for
each
of
those
resolutions
and
an
opportunity
for
additional
resolution,
specific
presentation
or
questions
following
those
eight
introductions
and
resolution
specific
presentations
or
questions,
we
would
move
to
to
public
comment
on
on
the
resolutions
as
a
whole,
though
people
are
welcome
to
speak
to
any
of
them.
A
A
D
Is
it
possible
for
us
to
vote
on
the
eight
resolutions
to
introduce
them
with
one
vote?
Can
they
can
they
be
since
they're
also
very
closely
related?
Do
they
have?
Does
each
one
be
voted
on
separately.
A
K
I
I
believe
the
council
should
should
follow
its
normal
practice
of
moving
to
introduce
each
item
and
and
proceeding
to
any
any
additional
presentation
from
the
administration
followed
by
council
questions.
H
H
J
B
B
I
didn't
hear
you
call
my
name:
yes,
okay,
councilmember
sims,
yes,
flaherty.
H
C
B
B
This
resolution
adopts
the
updated
fiscal
plan
for
municipal
annexation
version
4.0
fiscal
plan,
4.0
prepared
for
the
annexation
of
the
southwest
a
bloomington
annexation
area
depicted
in
exhibit
a
to
ordinance
1709
fiscal
plan.
4.0
is
an
updated
version
of
the
fiscal
plan
adopted
by
the
council
on
march
29
2017
and
outlines
the
proposed
plans
for
the
extension
of
capital
and
non-capital
services
in
this
area.
With
the
understanding
that
fiscal
plan
4.0
is
subject
to
further
amendment
as
part
of
the
ongoing
process
of
annexation
review
by
the
city.
A
A
A
As
it's
only
after
presentation,
so
if
there's
no
presentations,
there
will
be
no
questions
on
individual
resolutions
until
we
get
to
the
end
where
we
still
have
that
opportunity.
H
I
think
we
could
go
either
way
on
that.
I
guess
the
motion.
Let
me
see,
I
don't
know
if
mr
lucas
wanted
to
weigh
in
either.
K
I
I
believe
the
motion
was
structured
so
that
if
council
members
had
excuse
me,
council
attorney
stephen
lucas.
The
motion
I
believe
was
was
worded
to
allow
council
member
questions
after
each
resolution
was
introduced.
So
I
I
think
now
would
be
the
appropriate
time
to
take
questions
on
this
particular
resolution.
A
Seeing
none,
mr
parliamentarian,
is
it
proper
to
move
on
to
the
next
resolution
before
we
go
to
public
comment.
H
Yes,
I'd
be
happy
to
make
that
motion.
Thank
you,
mr
president,
I
move
that
resolution.
21
10
be
introduced
and
read
by
the
clerk
by
title
and
synopsis.
Only.
J
J
B
C
F
C
C
B
Resolution
2110
updating
resolution
1717
an
updated
fiscal
plan
and
policy
resolution
for
annexing
contiguous
territory
to
the
city
of
bloomington
monroe,
county
indiana,
southwest
b,
bloomington
annexation
area.
The
synopsis
is
as
follows.
This
resolution
adopts
the
updated
fiscal
plan
for
municipal
annexation
version
4.0
fiscal
plan,
4.0
prepare
for
the
annexation
of
the
southwest
b
bloomington
annexation
area
depicted
in
exhibit
a
to
ordinance
1710
fiscal
plan.
B
4.0
is
an
updated
version
of
the
fiscal
plan
adopted
by
this
council
on
march
29
2017
and
outlines
the
proposed
plans
for
the
extension
of
capital
and
non-capital
services
in
this
area.
With
the
understanding
that
fiscal
plan
4.0
is
subject
to
further
amendment
as
part
of
the
ongoing
process
of
annexation
review
by
the
city.
The
next
step
in
this
ongoing
process
will
be
the
conducting
of
public
hearings
on
the
proposed
annexation
on
wednesday
august
4th
2021.
H
J
J
B
Awesome,
thank
you
and
we'll
start
with
you
councilmember
scandalory.
Oh
yes,
again,.