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Our Table, Our Talk, episode 2 of 4
Guests include Donald Griffin and Muhammad Saahir
Hosted by Beverly Calender-Anderson
Produced by City Of Bloomington's Community and Family Resources Department
Directed by Justin Crossley
A
These
conversations
are
in
no
way
limited
to
only
african-american,
but
are
designed
to
spark
a
conversation
in
the
community
today,
we'll
be
talking
about
mental
health
and
emotional
wellness,
so
welcome
to
our
table
our
talk
one
and
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
African
Americans
and
mental
health
issues,
emotional
wellness,
some
of
the
ways
that
we
don't
seek
help
when
we
need
it.
Some
of
the
way
things
are
changing.
I'll
just
say
I
in
that
was
saying
this
in
a
conversation
earlier
that
when
things
happen,
my
mom
is
one
of
those
people.
A
You
know
you
suck
it
up
and
you
get
over
and
you
keep
on
moving
and
and
so
I
think
a
lot
of
people
in
our
community.
Are
you
know
that
way,
suck
it
up
and
get
over
it,
but
a
lot
of
times.
We
can't
do
that,
and
so
how
do
we
help
diminish
or
erase
the
stigma
around
getting
resource?
Getting
help
for
mental
health
the
same
way,
we
would
for
physical
elements.
B
I
think
it's
a
lot
of
just
normalizing.
A
lot
of
you
too
can
have
an
issue.
You
can
have
a
problem.
You
can
have
something
come
up
short
and
that's
okay,
a
lot
of
that.
You
mentioned
that
kind
of
do
for
self,
or
you
have
to
be
strong,
you're
right.
It
is
kind
of
something
that
can
hold
its
back
a
bit,
but
we
can
just
normalize
say
you
two
probably
have
an
issue.
I've
had
an
issue
we
can
work
together.
B
A
A
C
Think,
as
african-americans
when
we
enter
into
a
room,
there
are
any
barriers
against
us
there
already.
If
we're
trying
to
get
to
know
people,
we
already
have
the
color
that
we
have
to
deal
with
for
people
saying
hey,
I'm,
not
sure
about
you
and
then
to
add
a
mental
health
component.
To
that
that
you
have
a
chemical
imbalance,
I
mean
that's
just
I,
think
sometimes
that
that's
just
another
layer,
I,
don't
know
I.
Think.
B
Know
one
thing
I
always
think
about
is
context
when
we
think
about
black
people,
don't
want
to
receive
help.
I
also
look
at
well.
What
kind
of
help
are
we
looking
for,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
the
counseling
I'm
a
counselor
myself?
It's
a
very
Eurocentric
approach,
it's
a
very
let's
sit
down
one-on-one
and
talk,
and
that
may
not
be
what
we're
always
accustomed
to
I
look
at
places
like
a
barber
shop.
I.
Look
at
that
as
a
place
of
mental
health.
B
You
see,
people
are
talking
loud
talking
across
the
room
kind
of
in
a
in
a
gathering
space,
and
so
maybe
this
this
approach
of
counseling
or
sit-down
101,
it's
always
relatable
and
I-
think
we
can
kind
of
get
that
confused
with
well.
This
person
isn't
my
help.
Yeah
I'm,
not
sure,
that's
the
case,
because
who
doesn't
want
help
mm-hmm
well.
A
Well,
I
wonder
if
it's
because
I
think
a
lot
of
people
wouldn't
recognize
going
to
that
barber
shop
as
that
place
of
catharsis
or
that
place.
You
know
where
you
where
you
go
and
you
do
receive
that
support
same
thing
with
girlfriends.
You
know
you
get
together.
You
have
a
girls
night.
You
have
your
girlfriend
tonight.
A
B
B
C
B
You're,
not
you,
you
don't
seem
as
upbeat
as
you
used
to
be
or
you're
coming
in
later
to
work,
or
you
seem
a
little
more
tired,
I
know.
G
we
got
into
some
issues
at
school.
Are
you
guys,
as
you
know,
are
you
all?
Okay
yeah?
You
know
that
kind
of
checking
in
on
one
another,
I
think
that
could
really
go
a
long
way.
A
Don
you
mentioned,
you
know
having
that
that
extra
barrier
you
know,
be
an
african-american.
If
you,
if
it's
known
that
you
have
a
mental
health
issue,
then
that
also
plays
against
you
too.
I
also
think.
Sometimes
it's
the
economic
piece
of
it
I
mean
counseling,
is
not
an
inexpensive
venture
and
then
finding
a
counselor
who
understands
your
experience
as
an
african-american
person
and
so
I
know
in
Bloomington.
You
know
we
looked
and
found
some
african-american
councils,
but
we're
sort
of
hard-pressed
to
do
that
and
I
would
suspect
it's
the
same
thing
in
the
Latino
community.
A
B
You
want
to
invest
time
and
effort
in
with
someone
if
I'm
going
to
have
a
conversation
with
someone
I'm
going
to
invest
my
time
and
that's
my
money.
I
want
that
person
to
be
understanding
of
who
I
am
now
my.
We
have
the
same
background
in
terms
of
raise
religion,
all
that
that
could
be
great,
but
I
may
not
get
all
of
those
combined
I
mean.
A
B
A
C
B
C
A
I
think
and
to
your
point,
I
think:
once
you
get
to
know
a
counselor,
then
you
understand
that
they
can
understand.
You
I
think
I.
Think
if
you
are
reluctant
to
go
in
in
the
first
place,
and
then
you
don't
see
someone
that
looks
like
you,
then
it
just
makes
you
hard.
It
makes
it
harder
to
make
that
first.
Yes,
yes,
yeah.
B
A
B
A
A
C
C
A
B
A
B
B
C
A
A
A
People
don't
recognize
it,
I
mean
I,
have
I,
have
a
family
member
that
suffers
from
depression
and
and
she
just
thought
she
she
was
that
person.
You
know
I'm
just
I'm,
just
blue
I'm,
just
down
I,
just
don't
you
know,
but
not
realizing,
that
with
medication
like
her
whole
life
change,
I
mean
her
over
whole
world.
Do
you
change
just
with
that
medication
and
we.
B
C
A
C
B
A
A
Uncle
Bubba,
whoever
you
know
he
was
and
and
had
you
known,
that
the
uncle
had
your
uncle
had
an
issue
or
that
those
kinds
of
things
ran
through
your
family.
Then
you
know
what
to
look
out
for
you
know.
I
saw
something
recently
and
somebody
was
putting
together
a
medical
health
diary.
That's
brilliant.
A
B
We
saw
if
you
know
they
talk
about,
if
you
know,
because
somewhere
you
mentioned
depression,
and
sometimes
we
may
be
in
the
depressed
state
and
not
even
know,
because
we're
looking
at
all
the
pressure
means
I'm
sad
every
day,
all
day
and
I'm
crying
every
moment.
No,
it
varies
from
person
to
person.
It
could
be
a
lack
of
appetite.
It
could
be
a
lack
of
interest,
it
could
be
like
a
concentration,
it
can
be
a
combinational,
those
things
and
we
just
don't
really
know
to
say
these
symptoms
are
adding
up
to
a
diagnosis.
B
B
Why
does
it
happen?
You
know
I'm
always
looking
at
intentions
of
people
I'm
looking
at
because,
yes,
the
method
probably
was
not
the
best
method.
I'm
going
to
increase
my
alcohol
intake
to
deal
with
my
problem
and
all
that
the
intent
was
to
not
have
to
deal
with
the
problem.
I
want
to
get
the
pain
away.
I
forget
what
there's
who
said
it.
My
grad
student,
my
grad
teachers
will
be
upset,
I
mean
not.
A
B
C
A
B
I
always
say
number
one:
just
treat
yourself
like
that's
mandatory
and
I.
Don't
think
people
make
it
mandatory,
we
will
and
buy
treat
yourself.
You
can
define
it.
How
you
wish
I
will
say.
Maybe
that's
making
time
to
work
out.
Maybe
let's
make
it
time
so
you
go
to
to
church,
maybe
it
let's
make
it
time
to
think
of
a
car,
buy
another
car.
B
A
B
B
Honor
your
experiences,
meaning,
if
there's
something
that
has
that
has
happened
to
you,
we
can
acknowledge
it.
It
may
be
painful,
it
may
not
be
comfortable,
but
when
we
can
acknowledge
that
we
can
see
it,
we
can
identify
something
we
can
work
with
it.
Mm-Hmm
also
listening
to
yourself.
Listen
to
your
mind,
listen
to
your
body!
Listen
to
you!
Your
spirit!
If
you
will
listen
to
your
body,
will
tell
you
at
some
time.
You
need
to
sit
down
somewhere,
but
we're
done
we're
tired,
we're
sleep
go
to
bed.
B
A
A
B
B
A
They
get
within
reason,
but
via
here
really
I'm
really
glad
to
hear
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
conversation.
I
hope
this
conversation
continues,
I
think,
especially
between
men
and
women,
because
I
do
think
we
have
some
different
issues
that
we
deal
with,
but
you
know,
just
in
general,
good
mental
health
should
be
as
important
as
good
physical
health
and
do
what
you
need
to
do.