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A
Today
is
Monday
May,
the
1st
2023,
the
call
of
meeting
together
for
the
Redevelopment
commission
and
we'll
start
the
meeting
with
a
roll
call
I'm
going
last.
B
C
D
A
A
A
I'll
first
and
the
second
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
and
Deb
Hutton
upstate
passes
unanimously
or
passes
with
one-ups
to
abstention.
Next
item
examination
of
the
claims
for
two
April
28
2023
for
the
amount
of
fifty
nine
thousand,
eight
hundred
and
thirty
nine
dollars
and
10
cents,
any
questions
or
comments
from
the
Commissioners
and,
if
not
I'll,
entertain
a
motion.
C
I,
don't
think
that
I
received
them
I,
don't
remember
receiving
them.
So
I'd
going
to
abstain
from
this,
because
I
didn't
receive.
A
Them
did
you
receive
them,
I
thought
I.
Did
it's
possible
that
I'm?
Can
anyone
check
that
they
received
them
yeah?
Let
me
take
a
look
because
if
we
didn't,
we
shouldn't
even
make
a
motion
on
it.
B
E
Is
Madam
vice
president
I'd
like
to
introduce
Nick
ronnison,
who
most
of
you
know,
I,
don't
have
any
hands
report
this
evening
or
got
some
other
things
down
the
agenda
on
that
so
I'd
like
to
introduce
Mr,
Renaissance
or
former
deputy
Marin
Parks
director
to
talk
to
you
about
the
city
of
Bloomington,
Capital,
Improvements
Inc,
it's
going
to
give
you
a
quick
run
down
there
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen.
There
are
a
couple
of
PowerPoint
slides
that
we
want
to
share
with
you.
So.
J
Well,
well,
he's
pulling
that
up.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
entertaining
the
opportunity
to
present
to
you
today.
I
think
we
probably
will
see
more
of
you
in
the
future,
as
our
role
is
a
bit
more
defined
Sarah's
on
our
board,
Cindy
canardi's
been
helping
us
with
interviews
for
the
RFI
responses.
J
They've
done
now
we're
a
much
smaller
scale
and
we're
just
beginning
that
Journey.
But
we
do
hope
to
relieve
some
pressure
on
the
city
staff,
who
have
plenty
of
things
to
do
in
their
day
jobs,
but
still
will
be
technical
in
experts
in
subject
matter.
Experts
for
our
work
with
projects
that
the
administration
and
the
community
would
like
for
us
to
pursue
the
one
we're
mainly
pursuing
at
the
moment
is
Hopewell
I'm
very
excited
about
that.
That
was
a
project.
J
I
was
intensely
involved
with
in
my
term
as
Deputy,
Mayor
and
so
we're
beginning
to
see
some
progress
on
the
site
and
I
know.
The
city
has
had
several
of
the
parcels
conveyed
over
with
the
first
RFI
for
the
Lots,
eight
nine
and
ten
out,
which
are
the
first
things
we've
been
reviewing
along
with
getting
ready
for
the
next
phase
of
the
RFI
process,
which
will
be
coming
out
soon.
J
I
understand
I've
also
been
interviewing
owners
representatives
to
help
us
and
the
community
move
the
master
plan
forward
on
Hopewell
and
hopefully
it'll
be
an
update
from
that
from
director
Zody
here
shortly,
I
thought
what
I
would
show
you
is
how
we
view
our
role
and
mind
you.
This
is
this
is
a
work
in
progress.
We're
new
enough.
We've
been
created
back
in
March,
we've
had
three
meetings.
We
meet
every
other
week
at
the
moment
and
I'll
show
you
where
we
are
today
without
the
cbci's
existence,
which
is
right
here.
J
You
also
have
appointments
from
the
mayor's
office
and
then
there's
the
direct
link
on
the
left
side,
with
the
mayor's
Administration
working
with
the
city
staff
to
effectuate
any
of
the
projects
that
come
through
or
need
support
from
the
Redevelopment
commission.
I
think
you
all
know.
The
Hopewell
steering
committee
was
created
several
years
ago
to
help
guide
us
forward
in
the
development
of
that
project,
and
during
my
10
years,
Deputy
Mayor
worked
closely
with
them.
They
will
continue
to
exist.
J
Their
role
has
changed
a
bit
in
that
they
were
a
big
part
of
the
master
planning
process,
and
now
they
continue
to
be
a
kind
of
a
check,
a
check
in
with
the
city
Administration
and
our
new
board
to
make
sure
we're
staying
true
to
the
concepts
of
the
master
plan.
As
best
we
can.
The
market
May
Drive
some
changes
over
time,
but
at
the
moment
we're
going
to
try
to
stick
to
the
master
plan,
because
it
was
an
intensive
public
process
to
get
the
the
amount
of
public
input
that
we
did.
J
So
that's
the
current
situation
and
now
we'll
flip
over
to
the
new
one
which
just
inserts
the
cbci
a
lot
more
lines
in
there.
The
responsibilities
of
the
Redevelopment
commission
do
not
change
one
iota.
Rather
we
come
to
you
the
cbci
board
down
at
the
bottom.
If
there
are
any
funding
requests
or
anything
we're
going
to
do
with
property
UL.
Well,
you
won't
hope.
Well,
so
we
have
any
decision
making.
We
don't
have
decision
making
Authority.
We
have
recommendations.
J
I
understand
in
the
coming
months,
as
they
get
an
update
on,
what's
going
on
again
to
just
help
with
working
with
the
mayor's
Administration
to
keep
them
abreast
of
what's
going
on
and
continue
to
get
feedback
from
that
large
group
of
people
who
were
instrumental
in
the
master
plan
formulation
and
then
the
other
things
you'll
see
up
under
the
mayor's
Administration
how
we
were
created.
The
mayor
appoints
four
members:
the
city
council,
one
member
of
the
five,
so
you
know
Sarah
is
one
of
our
members.
J
J
So
that's
that's
the
new
way
that
we
interface
with
all
of
you
and
I
just
thought.
It
would
be
good
for
you
to
hear
about
us
before
we
come
to
you
in
future
months
with
a
potential
requests
for
you
to
move
land
around
or
respond
to
any
initiatives
that
come
out
of
our
RFI
process,
so
jump
in
you're
on
our
board.
If
you
have
anything
to
add
to
that
or
you
think
I
missed
anything
happy
to
answer
questions
from
any.
A
D
J
The
structure
one
possibility,
but
in
any
of
the
scenarios
that
we
would
bring
forth,
would
be
for
you
all
to
decide.
If
you
wanted
to
transfer
property
lease,
the
property
sell
the
property.
We
would
come
to
you
with
options
based
on
what
the
development
community
that
we'll
interface
with
tells
us
they
would
like
to
do.
And
then
you
all
have
the
final
say.
D
Of
course
it's
your
land,
so
the
cbci
could
actually
do
partial
by
parcel
building
by
building
as
far
as
proposal
and
then
come
to
the
RDC.
In
order
to
say
what
do
you
want
to
do
with
the
land
that's
owned
because
the
whole
Parcels
already
see
at
the
present
moment
and
then,
if
we're
doing
the
same
thing
with
a
funding
standpoint,
what
I'm
saying
up
here
indicates
that
anything
under
5
million
comes
to
the
RDC
from
a
tiff
fund
standpoint,
but
anything
over
five.
D
J
That
doesn't
change
from
the
current
way
that
any
anything
that
would
come
through
you,
that's
five
million
or
three
years
in
in
its
length,
has
to
go
to
the
city
council
for
approval,
so
whether
we
existed
or
not,
that
rule
is
the
same
for
me
and
Larry.
You
jump
in
and
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
that's
my
understanding
that
that
hasn't
changed
one
iota.
D
J
Order
to
do
that
and
we
will
follow
the
same
process.
You
will
follow
now
in
terms
of
the
introductory
phase,
where
a
project
is
brought
to
you
for
a
meeting
for
discussion
and
then
there's
another
at
least
two
weeks
before
you
have
any
action
to
take.
So
we'll
follow
the
same
procedures
that
you're
used
to
from
any
City
staff
project
led
the
city-led
staff
right
appreciate
that
so.
A
G
J
C
C
C
J
C
A
very
good
comparison,
and
so
the
idea
with
the
cdci
board
is
that
this
freeze
up
some
some
of
the
kind
of
Mayor
mayor's
administrative
staff
from
having
to
deal
with
all
of
the
issues
around
Redevelopment
of
the
Hopewell
site,
because
it
is
such
a
big
project.
And
so
since
RDC
does
not
have
an
operational
component
to
it.
In.
A
Next
question
is
in
terms
of
Hopewell
steering
committee
and
I
realized.
The
big
Focus
right
now
is
the
Hopewell
project,
however,
in
if
I
can
remember
correctly
in
creating
the
cbci,
the
mayor
and
the
administration
mentioned
also,
for
example,
the
potential
new
convention
expansion
and
there's
a
couple
of
other
things
too.
So
is
it
likely
that,
in
this
case,
for
Hopewell
is
a
Hopewell
steering
committee
which
is
directly
focused
on
that
and
in
the
next
case
there
might
be
a
convention
expansion
committee
that
focuses
on
it
and
another
expansion.
A
J
B
J
Of
those
three
projects
where
Hopewell
really
didn't
Topo
was
the
one
lacking
a
real
Focus
yeah
community.
So
we,
the
board
members,
took
that
on
first
I
think
that's
our
most
important
directive
at
the
time
the
others
may
or
may
not
come
before
this
group
in
the
future.
But
yes,
that's
a
good
way
to
say
that
not
just
the
Hopewell
group,
but
there
will
be
other
advisory
groups.
B
A
Thanks
and
my
third
question,
which
is
sort
of
an
out
in
the
public
but
I,
want
to
ask
it
anyway,
since
most
other
commissions
like
ours,
is
three
members
mayor,
two
members,
city
council,
the
historic
preservation
was
four
for
the
mayor
and
three
for
the
city
council,
but
four
to
one
seems
more
heavily
balanced
to
the
mayor
and
who
cares
what
the
other
one
says
doesn't
matter
they
can.
A
The
majority
already
is
with
the
mayor,
so
that
seems
awkward
to
me
in
the
balance
of
the
mayor's
any
mayor's
Administration
and
the
city
council
that
they
represent
elected
to
represent
the
city.
So
I'd
like
to
know
about
that
seems
misbalanced
to
me.
I.
J
B
C
C
J
We
did
research
about
some
of
the
existing
Arrangements.
The
city
staff
did
those
things
that
they
found
that
the
models
varied.
So
it's
not
it's
not
as
typical
as
the
boards
and
commissions
that
are
part
of
our
City's
infrastructure
that
you're
all
well
familiar
with.
Like
yours
and
yeah,
you
mentioned
the
historic
preservation
group.
Many
are
more
balanced
between
Council
and.
B
J
B
H
Just
have
one
quick
question
just
trying
to
identify
where
the
role
of
the
cbci
begins
and
ends
in
terms
of
it
appears.
Let's
say
for
the
example
of
Hopewell
at
least
is
kind
of
clear
for
that
transitional
stage,
because,
obviously
right
now,
it's
a
matter
of
putting
up
the
RFI
or
RFP
for
getting
the
development
done
and
there
be
a
stage
at
which
the
cbci's
role
concludes,
because
all
the
land
has
been
transferred
to
private
development
or
to
own
to
development
ownership.
Does
that
sound
like
an
accurate
assessment,
or
are
there
other
like?
J
A
really
good
question
this
project
probably
has
a
Time
Horizon
of
10
or
15
years.
Maybe
we'll
see
some
development
off
of
RFI
1
quickly,
and
then
it
may
take
several
years
for
the
next
phases
to
develop
out
and
then
there
may
be
just
outliers
depending
on
what
happens
in
the
world
around
us
that
we
can't
predict
at
this
moment
in
time.
So
I
would
Envision
what
you
said
Deborah
to
be
fairly
accurate,
we'll
being
involved
at
the
beginning,
hopefully
bringing
the
appropriate
development
deals
to
this
body.
You
approve
them.
J
The
developers
do
their
thing
and
then
we're
on
to
the
next
parcel.
If
there
is
one
left
to
do
anything
there
or
if
not
the
next
project,
that
the
administration
says
we'd
really
like
you
to
now
focus
on
X
in
our
community,
whatever
that
might
be
I
suspect,
there'll,
be
some
overlap
in
those
things,
while
we're
doing
hope
well
anyway,
but
at
the
moment
you
know
we're
pretty
focused
on
hope
all
hope
along
the
way.
But
yes,
I
think
you.
J
E
E
Just
from
what
Mr
Renaissance
said
about
the
owners
reps,
so
we
we
are.
We
have
interviewed
a
group
of
owners,
development,
Representatives,
we've
narrowed
that
group
down,
and
so,
as
we
sort
of
have
those
final
conversations
we
wanted
to,
let
you
know
that
that
was
moving
and
then
over
the
next
couple
of
meetings.
You
might
see
a
presentation
when
that's
narrowed
down.
There's
you
know,
discussions
about
fees
and
what
that
would
look
like.
E
If,
if
we
were
to
enter
into
an
engagement
with
one
of
them
and
then
there
would
obviously
be
a
contract
for
the
RDC
to
approve
so
that's
sort
of
the
update
today
and
so
at
the
May
15th
meeting.
We'll
keep
you
updated
as
that
moves,
and
you
may
see
a
presentation
coming
then
so
and
Deb
Koontz
is
going
to
be.
She
has
a
bit
about
this
under
our
Hopewell
update,
coming
up
social
media
say
a
little
more
as
well
so
I'm.
D
Sorry,
Randy
coach
off
there
would
that
be
a
situation
where
the
owner's
rep
will
be
a
contract
with
cbci
and
then
deals
come
to
the
Redevelopment
for
funding
accordingly,
or
will
it
be
a
direct
correlation
based
on
dollars?.
E
J
Okay
and
if
I
may
interject
I
believe
then
that
you
wouldn't
be
necessarily
the
entity
that
oversees
the
ownership
work
any
more
than
you
do.
When
you
allocate
money
for
anything
else,
you
expect
the
work
to
be
done
per
contract.
We
would
be
your
agent
so
to
speak,
to
make
sure
that
that
work
that
you
approve
the
contract
for
is
executed
in
a
way
that
you
see
you
you
envision,
and
so
we
would
continue
to
come
to
you
to
report
and
do
those
types
of
things
as
we
will
the
city
council
in
that
Arrangement.
J
E
That
concludes
my
report.
I'll
just
note
that
Mr,
Underwood
and
Mr
Crowley
are
not
here
tonight.
So
after
Mr
Allen's
report
we
can
probably
move
into
business.
I
B
A
E
Madam
president
I
think
before
we
did
that
first
resolution
I
think
Deb
Coots
was
going
to
do
a
Hopewell
update,
yeah.
I
A
A
Ready,
okay,
so
Deb
Deborah
we're
just
bringing
you
into
we're
addressing
resolution,
23
36,
amended
project
review
and
approval
form
for
Hopewell.
If
you
care
to
give
us
a
report,
that'll
be
wonderful
thanks.
Great
thank.
F
You
excuse
me
so,
in
addition
to
talking
about
the
project
review,
form,
I
thought
it
would
be
also
a
good
opportunity
to
just
give
you
an
overall
update.
We've
provided
a
presentation
back
in
February
I
thought
it
would
be
good
just
to
do
overall,
quick
update.
So
today
we're
just
going
to
remind
you
of
the
name
of
the
division.
We
did
have
some
follow-up
items
since
the
February
RDC
meeting,
so
I
want
to
give
a
quick
report
on
that
and
then
we'll
talk
to
give
you
a
quick
update
on
the
department
of.
F
Where
we
are
that
some
of
the
owners
rest
you've
heard
about
tonight,
core
building
and
just
kind
of
that
General
progress
of
challenges
and
then
we'll
finish
with
the
project,
review,
form,
updated,
I.
Think
all
of
you
know
that
there
are
really
three
main
pillars:
For
Hopewell
and
a
vision
for
the
24
acre
1000
unit
development,
and
that
is
around
affordability,
sustainability
and
design
excellence,
and
everything
that
we
do
is
measured
on
how
we
can
achieve
those
things.
There
are
goals
set
out.
As
you
can
see
for
affordability,
we
want
with
a
thousand
units.
F
For
sustainability,
looking
at
lead
silver
for
all
of
the
buildings,
kind
of
who
can
achieve
lead
silver,
particularly
in
the
multi-family
and
then
design
excellence,
strive
to
overcome
that
Trend
toward
cookie
cutter
design
continue
to
raise
the
bar
for
design
it.
So,
since
our
last
meeting
with
useless
or
last
update,
we
have
got
some
accomplishments
here
with
reference,
and
that
is
the
artistic
we
wanted
you
to
get
involved
in
the
RFI.
The
development
owner's
rep
Cindy
has
been
involved
in
that,
and
so
we
appreciate
her
involvement
in
it.
F
We've
already
talked
about
cdci
and
it
being
organized.
It
was
arrested.
Referee
meeting
tonight
there
is
a
couple
of
two
different
action
items:
we're
going
to
ask
you
to
take
some
action
on
one
is
the
public
land
offering
for
the
court
building
Redevelopment?
The
other
is
retaining
an
engineer
for
the
Jackson
Street
endearing.
There
is
the
phase
one
East.
F
Er
those
bids
are
due
in
a
couple
of
days,
so
fingers
and
Joe's
crossed
that
those
come
in
where
we
want
them
to,
and
then
the
potential
reuse
of
714
South
Rogers.
One
of
the
submissions
that
we
have
does
have
that
potential
in
there
in
there
not
all
of
the
items.
There
are
some
items
that
are
still
tracking
down
here
and
we'll
talk
about
those
in
a
few
minutes.
But
you
know
these
are
the
things
we
last
left
you
with.
F
So
we
wanted
to
just
give
you
a
quick
update
updates
additionally
in
terms
of
the
final
property
conveyance
for
my
new
health,
a
demolition
if
you
haven't
been
by
this,
is
essentially
what
you
see
there.
The
demolition
is
complete,
the
final
grading
for
the
site
is
ongoing
and
they
do
plan
the
seed
this
month,
I
during
all
this
rain,
we've
had
read
the
graphs,
but
they
are
in
the
process
of
getting
that
getting
done
this
day
and
obviously
getting
the
grass
to
stabilize
is
important
for
that
turnover.
F
F
F
This
has
been
a
great
graphic
that
we've
used
and
pulled
from
the
master
plan
to
show
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
multi-family
here,
particularly
Along,
on
2nd
Street
there
and
a
lot
of
the
single
family
and
Townhomes
and
multiplexes
that's
kind
of
hear
along
first
down
to
the
South,
and
so
just
as
a
reminder,
we
are
looking
at
the
overall
thousand
units.
This
is
a
different
way
to
see
the
same
graphic,
which
is
we
think
of
reason.
F
We
reference
them
in
blocks,
everything
that
is
in
Gray
blocks,
one
two
and
three
and
eight
nine
and
ten
all
of
those
blocks.
Again,
it's
one
two
and
three,
eight
nine
and
ten,
which
are
in
the
gray.
Those
are
properties
that
the
RDC
owns
already
just
as
a
reminder
and
four
five.
Six
and
seven
are
the
properties
that
will
be
part
of
the
final
IU
Health
convenience,
so
those
are
coming.
F
We
also
use
this
graphic
just
to
remind
everybody
about
how
much
infrastructure
has
been
funded
so
that
dark
blue
that
you
see
here,
there's
been
a
lot.
That's
funded
already
we're
going
to
talk
about
that
in
the
project
review
form,
but
obviously
a
lot
yet
to
be
funded,
and
that
is
in
the
dash
red
lines.
Over
the
last
couple
of
months,
you've
heard
us
talk
about
the
ready
grant
for
Jackson
Street,
and
that
is
the
portion
of
Jackson
Street.
That
goes
that
includes
the
design
and
construction
of
Jackson
Street.
F
F
It
again
a
couple
of
different
ways
there
to
look
at
what
those
things
that
leads
me
then,
into
the
development
of
the
owner's
rep
update,
you've
heard
about
the
owner's
development
rep.
But
what
we
didn't
say
is
that
the
RFI
one
that
was
issued
for
blocks
eight
nine
to
ten
and
suggested
a
graphic
reminder
here.
Here's
blocks
eight,
nine
and
ten
here,
and
that
is,
we
have
received
several
submissions
from
local
Developers
developers,
so
we've
got
a
team
of
people
who
are
involved.
F
City
is
represented
for
the
RDC
and
so
in
the
coming
months,
you're
going
to
hear
from
us,
hopefully
within
the
next
30,
to
90
days
that
you'll
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
those
we
are.
They
are
definitely
in
review
right
now.
F
The
owner's
development
rep
has
already
been
referenced
here,
but
we
did
interview
fine
ferns,
two
firms
were
shortlisted
and
a
recommendation
is
forthcoming
and,
as
John
said,
our
best
estimate
right
now,
assuming
discussions
with
fees
go
well,
is
that
at
your
May
15th
meeting
we
would
look
at
having
the
recommended
firm,
come
and
do
a
presentation
and
then
following
it,
maybe
at
your
next
meeting
control
for
proposing
a
contract,
so
we
are
sort
of
giving
you
an
update.
F
Now
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
a
full
presentation
at
your
next
meeting
and
probably
as
the
earliest
a
contract
would
come,
would
be
June
5th.
So
I
know
that
question
was
if
it
was
asked
earlier
and
I
wanted
to
fill
in
that
information.
F
Additionally,
then,
on
blocks
four
five,
six
and
seven
and
again
just
as
a
reminder:
those
are
the
blocks
that
will
be
coming
to
you
in
the
final
property
conveyance
from
IU
Health.
We
are
in
the
process
of
doing
subdivision
planning
for
that
main
hospital
block.
That's
obviously
a
prep
for
future
development,
but
also
for
the
core
building.
I
will
talk
about,
and
so
that
is
heading
its
way
through
its
normal
cycles
for
the
city
and
ultimately
we'll
go
we'll
go
to.
Those
are
some
things
that
are
happening
on
the
development
side.
F
Additionally
the
core
building
on
you
haven't
seen
the
rendering
that
was
approved
by
the
district
preservation
commission.
This
is
what
is
included
here.
You'll
actually
see
the
core
building,
which
is
the
Limestone
building
here,
which
comes
off
at
first
and
then.
This
is
the
addition
that
is
proposed
in
new
construction
that
will
allow
38,
affordable
units
through
life.
Tech
deal
to
be
constructed
as
I
mentioned.
Historic
preservation.
Commission
has.
F
It,
but
they
have
some
variances
that
you
need
to
see
the
developer
needed
to
seek
those
were
also
approved.
We
look
at
hope
that
you
will
be
doing
approving
the
public
offering
today
proposed
for
May
1st
year
and
we're
all
with
that
approval.
We
are
working
toward
a
July,
2023
tax,
credit
submission,
and
that
is
in
partnership
with
Bryn
Shore.
F
F
I
do
think
one
of
them
may
have
been
tied
with
a
little
great
graffiti,
but
fortunately
we
paid
a
little
extra
to
get
that
anti-graffiti
film,
and
so
they
they're
in
the
process
of
it
hasn't
come
off
already
either
process
and
then
we're
also
contemplating
what
up
State
excuse
me
website
updates
may
need
to
be
considered
as
we
continue
to
go
forward
and,
of
course,
a
lot
happens
on
the
infrastructure
side.
The
First
Street
reconstruction
will
be
out
to
this
soon.
F
The
Second
Street
modernization
is
in
design
and
the
Jackson
Street
for
the
partial
work
on
Jackson
Street,
which
I
referenced
earlier
funded
by
that
1.8
million
ready
Grant
with
your
approval
tonight,
we'll
move
forward
into
the
design
phase.
So.
F
Is
complete,
of
course,
I've
mentioned
already.
The
Facebook
infrastructure
is
bidding
and
then
obviously
work
they.
We
want
to
continue
to
leverage
additional
federal
funds
and
then
talk
about
share
with
you
how
the
engineering
department
schedules
and
leverage
even
more
now
we
can't
talk
about
progress
and
good
thing
without
just
framing
up
that
we
continue
to
have
some
challenges.
Of
course,
construction
costs
do
seem
to
be
continually
fine,
they
are.
F
F
Standing
structure
bid
a
bit
over
me.
We
do
need
to
seek
Council
approval
of
the
stuff
vision
of
that
of
the
where
the
main
hospital
was
so
Ali
right
away.
That's
never
a
guarantee,
but
we
know
that
because
of
what
we've
seen
them
do
with
Phase
One
East,
that
we
should
be
in
pretty
good
shape
as
we
follow
that
similar
path
on
the
subdivision
for
the
next
and
then
the
additional
support
in
the
development
of
the
structural
expertise
that
structural
periodism,
maybe
a
little
bit
misleading.
F
But
it's
really
in
the
development
and
that's
really
the
reference
to
the
development
owners.
Rep
now
I
did
mention
earlier
that
I
was
gonna,
highlight
some
another
good
thing
that
has
happened
in
the
project
and
that
in
that,
through
its
Federal
program,
has
identified
additional
funding
that
they
want
to
push
toward
the
First
Street
reconstruction
project.
Those
increased
construction
costs
are
because
of
the
market
conditions
that
the
feds
and
the
indot
has
been
seeing,
and
so
they
want
to
push
more
money
to
this
project
to
make
sure
that
it
can
actually
happen.
F
Interface
conditions,
and
so
the
additional
Federal
dollar
contribution
is
actually
going
up
by
over
a
million
dollars
and
it
is
going
to
increase
the
city's
match
by
274
000.
However,
we
think
that,
with
this
additional
Federal
money,
the
chances
of
this
coming
in
at
a
budget
and
a
bid
that
is
actually
possible
for
that
First
Rate
reconstruction.
Actually,
it
makes
it
more
plausible,
so
the
total
construction
cost
budget
for
this
is
going
to
be
just
just
a
little
bit
over
5.
F
So
that
is
going
to
come
into
play
because
well,
it's
great
to
get
more
money
from
the
from
the
feds.
It
also
there's
a
little
bit
on
our
side.
We
need
to
pay,
but
overall
we
think
this
is
going
to
make
sure
that
even
within
today's
market
that
there's
an
opportunity
for
this
project
to
continue
for,
because
we
know
our
developers
are
really
interested
in
counting
on
what
is
happening
at
the.
F
Let
me
then
move
into
the
final
section
which
teased
us
up
for
the
project
review,
form
discussion
over
the
past
30
days
or
so
we've
been
doing
a
reconciliation
with
Jeff
Underwood
in
the
controller's
office
there
have
been
a
the
RDC
has
approved
to
date,
12.5
million
dollars
worth
of
total
contracts
and
in
your
project,
review
form.
As
you
know,
in
typical
fashion,
there
are
recommendations.
There
are
some
recommendations
to
make
a
few
minor
adjustments,
but
to
also
make
some
projections
going
forward.
F
We
did
have
a
chance
to
talk
to
Cindy
about
this
last
week
and,
frankly,
I
think
today
we
want
to
say,
fix
a
few
things
from
resolution
2210
that
we
need
to
make
some
adjustments
on,
but
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
look
forward,
we
are
giving
you
a
bigger,
broader
picture
of
what
we,
where
we
think
the
expenses
are
going
to
be
for
the
next
couple
of
years
and
are
going
to
be
asking
you
to
take
and
make
an
increase
of
the
Tiff
of
five
million
dollars
from
25
million
up
to
30
million.
F
And
so,
while
I
know,
all
the
details
are
on
your
project
review
form.
We
thought
it
would
be
good
to
just
look
at
a
quick
synopsis
on
the
sources
and
uses
between
2210,
which
is
what
has
been
approved
today
to
23.26.
I.
Hope
I.
Have
that
right,
the
that
is
actually
being
proposed
for
tonight,
and
so
you
see
here
that
there
are
many
sources
right.
We
have
Tiff
sources.
F
We
are
proposing
today
that
they
actually
are
very
likely
going
to
be
at
35
869,
190
million
you'll
see
that
the
uses
that
were
projected
not
approved,
but
the
ones
that
were
projected
even
slightly
were
over
the
27
million
and
we're
projecting
uses
of
right
now,
35
million,
knowing
that
there
is
a
little
bit
of
wiggle
room
between
the
sources
and
the
uses
of
so
I
wanted
to
share
you
that
comparison
again
in
your
project
reviewed
form,
and
you
might
say
well
what
is
this
all
about?
Why
are
we?
F
What
is
the
proposed
amendment
all
about
again
we're
trying
to
give
you
a
bigger
view
of
what
the
next
couple
of
years
look
like
with
some
exceptions,
and
that
is
the
proposed
amendment-
includes
increased
security
owners
of
the
owner's
development,
rep
services
that
we
talked
about
earlier
lead
for
neighborhoods
and
which
relates
to
the
parking
garage
assessments,
the
project
management
services,
some
of
the
Jackson
Street,
so
the
Jackson
Street
design
and
some
of
the
football
West
is
from
one
percent
or
are
structured.
The
website
object
and
hosting
an
additional
site
promotage
a
promotional
signage.
F
What
this
does
not
include
is
this
does
not
include
the
any
future
infrastructure
that
may
or
may
not
be
covered
by
developers.
This
also
does
not
include
the
garage
any
garage
Renovations
that
may
come
out
of
the
parking
garage
assessment,
so
I
want
to
be
clear.
Those
things
are
not
included
now.
I
do
know
that
there's
been
some.
If
I
will
add
that
to
this
project
review
from
slide
before
that
gets
sent
out.
Some
of
some
of
you
may
be
thinking.
Well,
how
do
we
get
this
money
back?
What's
you
know?
What
is
it?
F
F
These
are
some
of
the
rules
and
also
keep
in
mind
that
the
Redevelopment
fees
come
when
development
happens,
so
we
aren't
going
to
have
that
Redevelopment
for
the
first
one,
probably
the
earliest,
if
one
would
come
in
mind,
is
going
to
be
2024
and
it's
going
to
come.
So,
let's
think
about
this,
what?
Where
could
that
Redevelopment
fees
actually
come
from
they?
F
These
are
the
areas
as
we
bring
development
opportunities
back
to
the
RDC,
where
some
of
these
Redevelopment
fees
can
be
recouped
over
time
right.
So
it's
going
to
take
time
for
that
to
happen
to
happen,
we
you,
you
saw
Matt
earlier
I
showed
blue
roads
that
were
funded
and
red
roads
that
were
not
funded.
We
are
asking
developers
to
partner
with
us
and
to
help
us
do
that
infrastructure.
Not
all
of
them
are
seeing
the
value
of
helping
us
do
that
infrastructure.
F
I
will
tell
you,
but
that
is
part
of
what's
going
to
be
happening
in
as
we
continue
to
move
forward
with
rfis
and
I.
Think.
That's
also
really
an
important
reason
why
that
owner's
development
rep
is
so
critical.
Is
you
know
what
is
real
holistic
to
ask
developers
to
take
on
and
or
what
is
realistic,
that
we
might
have.
B
F
F
So
what's
coming
next,
if
the
project
review
form
amendment
is
approved
within
the
next
approved
tonight,
I
should
say
for
tonight
within
the
next
30
40
30
to
90
days,
the
development
ownership
contract
Proposal
with
a
pre
meeting
right
on
the
15th
is
look
at
we're
looking
at
assuming
that
the
construction
contracts
were
Phase,
One
East
infrastructure
come
in
well,
that'll
be
coming
some
sort
of
review
or
potential
recommendation
for
RFI
1
on
blocks.
Eight,
nine
and
ten
we'll
see
how
that
goes.
G
F
Yeah
yeah
I
know
it's
a
great
question.
I
think
you
have
to
look
at.
You
know
why
we're
not
we're
not
don't
want
to
throw
good
money
after
bad
there,
and
so
we
we
have
been
looking
at.
What
would
it
take
to
demolish
the
buildings
that
is
not
included
in
tonight's
project
review
form?
We
also
have
the
ability,
we
think,
with
some
of
the
RFI
proposals
on
8910
to
potentially
incorporate
that
development
through
their
proposals.
F
F
F
G
D
D
F
Frankly,
because
we
do
believe
that
these
some
a
few
of
the
developers
actually
have
that
demolition
cost
built
into
their
proposal.
And
if
that's
the
case,
then
that's
one
less
thing
that
the
city
has
to
pay
for
directly
I
think
it's
worth
some
consideration.
But
at
the
same
time,
if
we
pay,
how
much
do
you
pay
in
security
cost
to
get
there.
D
Yeah,
exactly
so
just
Safety
and
Security,
the
community
is
what
my
concern
is
as
we
go
through
this,
because
you
know,
as
we
should.
Nothing
happens
quickly,
so
that
we
don't
make
any
mistakes
with
it,
but
the
ongoing
nuisance
could
be
could
create
a
sprawl.
The
next
question
regards
to
dealing
with
your
overall
view
in
regards
to
it
with
a
thousand
residents
we're
looking
at
and,
as
you
brought
up
the
map
that
indicated
a
significant
amount
of
multi-family.
D
F
Yes,
that
we
have
as
the
developers
you
know
the
next
RFI
is
going
to
be
for
blacks,
one
two
and
three
and
three
was
back
over
here
by
the
way,
and
we
are
actually
asking
the
developers
to
identify
how
some
of
that
multi-family
could
be
owner
occupied
to
be
separated
off.
So
we
we
do
expect
that
to
be
part
of
this
question.
D
H
A
couple
questions
one
is
I,
realize
it's
a
little
early
because
you're
just
getting
you
know,
information
from
the
developers,
but
when
you
talk
about
the
20
of
the
residential
Target,
that
would
be
what
I'll
call
below
Market
any
anticipation.
Besides
the
LIE
Tech
project,
which
we're
not
talking
about
you
know,
that's
only
37
units
out
of
the
let's
say:
200,
that's
the
20
percent.
H
What
kind
of
Gap
financing
is
going
to
help
to
underwrite
the
below
Market
units?
Is
that
expected
to
be
kind
of
you
know,
funded
by
the
market
rate
units
or
what's
the
vision
or
is
that
up
to
the
developer?
Because
I
I
heard
what
you
said
about
the
developers
not
being
crazy
about
also
funding
infrastructure
I'm,
just
wondering
how
many
things
that
they're
expected
to
fund
in
terms
of
their
proposals.
F
I
think
we
saw
some
who
are
using
the
market
rate
for
that
we
saw
others
leverage.
Other
opportunities.
I
do
think
that
there
are
going
to
be
some
asks
of
the
city
right
overall
is
it?
Is
it
going
to
be
to
an
infrastructure?
Is
part
of
the
thing
I
think
it's
all
part
of
one
big
formula:
they're,
not
freaking
out
and
saying
we
need
this
for
affordable.
We
need
that
for
something
else,
but
and
I
don't
know.
F
If
John
wants
to
weigh
in
on
this
at
all
his
dealings
with
other
property,
you
know
and
and
frankly,
the
core
building
right,
because
even
with
that,
there
are
still
gaps.
Interest
rates
continue
to
be
high
and
I
think
we
will
continue
to
see
the
Developers
providing
apps
now
they're
providing
us,
but
at
the
same
time
my
impression
of
what
we've
been
given
so
far
is
they're
going
to
meet
the
goals
of
the
affordability
so.
E
I,
don't
have
anything
bad
I,
think
I,
think
they
asked
to
the
city
and
making
all
the
numbers.
Work
is
very
much
a
challenging
and
an
opportunity.
I
would
say
that
we're
just
we're
preparing
for
those
I
mean
the
the
core
building
project
is
going
to
come
to
us
with
some
asks,
as
well,
so
to
make
all
that
work.
We've
got
to
do
it.
H
I,
just
you
have
for
most
of
the
line
items
in
the
exhibit
a
there's,
an
estimate,
even
if
it's
not
fully
in
there
yet.
But
as
you
noted
the
in
this
amendment,
for
example,
the
parking
garage
design
and
retro
Freight
is
not
included.
It
just
says
to
be
determined.
So
my
question
is
what
will
it
take
to
get
an
estimate
to
at
least
plug
into
this,
because
it's
not
included
in
this
amendment,
which
is
already
an
additional
5
million
above
the
original
commitment.
F
F
Now
we
feel,
like
maybe
I,
don't
know
whether
we
can
bring
that
down
or
not
about
that.
But
the
assessment
is
the
only
thing.
That's
really
going
to
be
able
to
go
to
that
yeah.
C
So,
thank
you
Deb
for
a
really
informative
presentation.
Can
you
just
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
how
much
of
kind
of
the
additions
into
the
estimated
costs
are
really
kind
of
just
fleshing
out
things?
C
That
kind
of
feel
always
knew
were
going
to
be
expenditures
on
this
project
and
we're
just
kind
of
getting
more
information
about
them
so
that
we
can
develop
a
better
sense
of
the
overall
cost
and
how
much
are
kind
of
new
I
know
that
this
resolution
does
not
actually
appropriate
any
more
money,
but
it
is,
you
know
indicating
that
the
costs
are
rising
a
bit
so
I
I'd,
like
to
kind
of,
and
in
particular
you
know,
like
the
Consulting,
the
step
one
Consulting
has
in
that
cost
has
increased
over
a
million
dollars
in
terms
of
estimation,
so
you
know
some
of
the
estimates
as
well.
C
You
know
for
like
fencing
and
barricades
I
have
no
idea
how
to
kind
of
assess
this
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
right
amount
for
fencing
and
barricades.
That
sounds
to
me
like
that,
might
be
kind
of
high,
but
I
don't
really
know
so.
Could
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
more,
it's
a
little
bit
hard
for
me
to
have
a
good
like
to
assess
what
what's
in
front
of
us
right
now.
F
The
farther
we
get
into
it,
the
more
we're
finding
out
some
of
the
needs
and
I
will
say
security
and
say
you
know
those
kinds
of
things
yeah.
Those
are
things
that
we
think
we
had
hoped
we
made.
Maybe
to
do
that
much,
which
is
why
we
had
the
original
security
patrols.
We
also
know
that
is
going
to
continue
for
some
time.
If
at
the
develop
it
takes
time
for
the
developers
to
get
in
there
and
do
that
so
I
would
say
those
are
you
know.
Those
are
a
few
examples
of
that.
F
I
think
we
always
suspected
that
the
parking
garage
was
going
to
come
back
with
some
kind
of
Financial
need.
I
I.
Think
if
the
mayor's
here
he
would
very
quickly
say
I
did
we
should
use
it
as
this
I
think
you're
Parking
Department
at
disagree
and
and
always
thought
that
we
probably
have
to
do
something
I
well,
IU
Health
take
took
good
care
of
it.
It
is
an
aged
garage
and
it
is
not
ready
to
be
utilized
up
to
the
level
that
your
other
garages
are
on
this
Consulting
side.
F
F
So
this
is
additional
years
that
continues
it
on
I
think
there
was
all
for
the
last
since
20
the
early
22
I
think
there's
been
a
hope
that
we
wouldn't
have
to
hire
an
owner's
development
Grant
to
have
being
a
better
advisor
on
the
development
side,
but
that
that
has
passed
and
again
that's
looking
at
a
maximum
two-year
contract.
You
don't
have
to
go
into
a
two-year
contract
with
them.
Right,
that's
going
to
be
part
of
the
conversation.
What
do
we
do
with
them?
F
But,
as
we
talked
with
Cindy,
we
thought
it
would
be
better
to
give
you
the
bigger
picture
of
where
we
think
it
could
go
over
the
next
couple
of
years
as
opposed
to
a
piecemeal
this
year
and
then
give
you
another
thing
next
year,
and
so
this
really
is
trying
to
be
more
comprehensive.
Look
over
the
next
couple
of
years
again,
there's
some
res
there's
some
exceptions
in
one
of
a
couple
of
successions.
Are
we
don't
have
any
more
infrastructure
in
these
numbers?
F
We
don't
have
the
garage
construction,
which
is
cited
there
and
we
don't
have
any
demolition
of
existing
buildings.
The
assumption
is
is
that
if
most
of
that
infrastructure
and
demolition
we
can
get
hopefully
through
developers,
we
may
find
later
that
we
can't
so
we
we
also
have
to
keep
looking
for
other
ways
to
do
that.
C
Does
that
help?
Yes,
and
do
you
have
like
when
you
look
at
this
and
you
look
at
the
kind
of
expectations
and
the
estimated
costs
about
the
breakdown
between
different
types
of
costs?
Like
did
you
have
particular
metrics
that
you
wanted
to
meet
like
you
know
what
is
a
like,
so
this
is
indicative
of
you
know
like
basically
like
how
how
much
what
percentage
of
the
project
should
go
towards
should
be
taken
off
by
Consulting
fees
versus
how
much
should
be
by
Design
versus
construction
like?
C
F
F
Comparing
the
overall
Consulting
fees
to
the
overall
investment
by
the
city
as
a
development,
I'm,
not
sure
I
could
say
exactly
what
those
could
be,
but
I'm
happy
to
do
a
little
research
on
it
as
well
to
make
sure
that
we're
falling
within
those
metrics
but
I
think
it
all
relates
to
time,
and
that
is
one
of
the
things,
particularly
in
the
Consulting
side.
It
is
the
longer
it
takes
the
more
that's
why
we're
trying
to
get
more
rfis
out
right,
get
more
developments
burn.
B
A
Question
is
different:
it's
about
and
the
environment
and
the
green
possibilities,
especially
when
you
look
at
the
map
there
do
the
if
you're
hoping
the
developers
will
help
build
the
infrastructure
they
may
or
they
may
not,
and
we
may
have
to
build
the
infrastructure.
The
superstructure
which
we
for
me
is
the
green
stuff.
A
On
top
and
as
with
the
Kmart
development,
when
approved,
there
was
a
lot
more
green
and
then,
as
things
are
built,
there's
a
lot,
less
green
and
so
on
both
of
them,
and
so
there's
are
the
developers
of
each
parcel
expected
to
provide
as
much
green
as
possible
in
our
Our
Hope
for
master
plan
of
green
stuff.
Instead
of
just
construction
materials,
or
we
do
that
or
how
is
how
is
the
maximization
of
green,
that's
possible,
going
to
happen
in
this
structure
of
proposals,
rfis
and
everything
everything
else.
F
So
let
me
start
with
a
traditional
block
and
it's
your
Udo
right.
Beautiful
development
ordinance
outlines
what
those
requirements
are
so
for
a
traditional
block.
Let's
say
like
we're:
7
14
self
graduates
is
there
at
Rogers
and
first
that
would
be
considered
kind
of
a
traditional
block
that
is
going
to
be
defined
by
the
Udo
and
by
taking
on
that
development.
The
development
partner,
unless
they
get
some
sort
of
variance,
is
required
to
do
what's
near
UDF.
So
that
is
where
that
requirement
comes
from
and
then
I
would
say.
F
The
other
piece
is
the
greenway
right.
That
Center
kind
of
Greenway
is
really
one
of
the
most
fantastic
I.
Think
Parts
about
football
as
well
is
creating
kind
of
that
that
live
work
play,
but
an
area
for
people
to
come
to
that.
Maybe
don't
even
live
there
and
so
Phase
One
East.
That
is
already
in
so
that
breathing
of
that
section
of
phase
one
East
is
actually
in
there.
You
may
notice-
and
let
me
just
share
again
just
but
this
rule
goes
a
long
way
here.
B
F
This
probably
shows
it
the
best,
so
these
green
flashes
here
right,
that's
the
green
way.
That's
already
funded
through
this.
This
project,
we're
due
for,
but
these
orange
boxes
here
are
the
ones
that
are
not
funded
funded
right.
So
those
are
the
ones
that
we
need
to
try
to
find
funding
for
as
well,
because
we
really
need
these.
B
F
M
Deb,
can
you
on
the
demolition
line
item
that's
in
red
on
the
on
the
project
review
form?
Can
you
tell
me
what
that
includes?
Specifically,
it's
a
7c
Demolition
and
Remediation
2022-2023.
F
So
that
was
the
demolition
that's
phase,
one
e
specifically
so
remember.
There
was
like
several
buildings,
including
some
old
IU,
Health
and
storage
facilities,
and
we
had
to
demolish
those
as
part
of
an
initial
contract.
So
there
was
an
initial
demolition
contract
that
was
led
by
the
RDC.
That
work
is
now
complete
and
then
there
was
a
little
bit
education
that
happened
with
that
as
well.
So
that
is
a
con.
The
reason
that
it
is
not
read-
and
that
is
black-
is
that
contract
is
complete
and
the
RDC
already
funded
that.
M
I'm
sorry
I
do
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
kind
of
compare
and
contrast
a
proposed
demolition
cost
to
a
proposed
security
cost
just
to
see
where
that
kind
of
weighs
out.
So
we
can
come
to
a
an
intersection
of
when
it
makes
sense
to
go
ahead
and
pull
the
trigger
on
demolition
because,
as
I
as
you
presented
earlier,
it
looks
like
demolition
could
be
captured
in
a
Redevelopment
fee.
Along
with
you
know,
security
Etc,
true.
F
No
I
was
just
gonna
say
you
know
the
project
review
for
you.
Obviously,
if
you
decide
to
take
that
money
and
that's
no
security,
AG
demolition
right,
those
are
adjustments
that
the
RDC
absolutely
can
make
I
think
you're
going
to
find
that
you
probably
are
money
ahead.
If
we
do
that,
I
think
the
question
is:
is
how
long
do
you
wait
for
a
developer
to
take
it
on
right
that
that's
really
becomes
a
question
so
you're
going
to
wait
for
developers,
you
just
take
it
on
and
deal
with
it.
C
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
just
this
is
more
of
a
like
comment
or
request
to
to
Larry
and
John
is
that
it
I
think
it
would
be
very
helpful
for
us
kind
of
moving
forward.
I
realized
that
this
resolution
does
not
actually
is
is
not
actually,
you
know
making
it
like
we're.
C
Not
we're
not
voting
on
actually
spending
money
right
now,
but
I
think
it
would
be
useful
to
have
a
bit
more
of
a
presentation
by
Jeff
for
us
to
understand
sort
of
what
this
sort
of
budgetary
kind
of
expectation
does
in
terms
of
the
rdc's
budget,
as
well
as
what
that
means
in
terms
of
opportunity,
costs.
C
I,
think
you
know,
as
we
keep
talking
about
Hopewell,
it's
a
really
it's
a
type
of
opportunity
that
doesn't
come
up
very
often
right,
and
so
it's
important
to
get
it
right,
but
I
do
think
it
would
also
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
sort
of
keep
track
of
all
of
the
money
when
we're
not
thinking
about
it
in
terms
of
what
does
it
mean
to
the
overall
budget?
And
what
does
it
mean
in
terms
of
like
what
like?
Is
it
constraining
Us
in
other
respects,
so
I?
C
I
As
a
clarification,
though,
I
mean
yeah
an
absolutely
as
a
clarification,
the
way
that
we
approve
the
ACT
there
is
an
internal
process
for
that
review,
so
this
is
kind
of
the
one
step
for
the
controller's
office
to
see
what
is
planned
out
and
to
do
that
long-term
budgeting,
particularly
with
Tiff
revenues,
but
for
every
contract
that
comes
through
after
we
receive
a
bid.
It
does
go
through
a
review
process
where
it's
submitted
to
the
controls
office
and
they
do
match
that
up
against
what
are
the
available
funds?
B
C
H
Why
particular
Geographic
areas
were
selected
to
be
part
of
a
tiff
and
one
question:
I
have
that
is
part
of
that
bigger
picture
is
how
are
the
other
Geographic
areas
being
served
by
Tiff
money
if
so
much
is
being
invested
in
Hopewell
project
which
again,
once
in
a
lifetime
opportunity,
it's
excellent
to
have
the
opportunity
to
put
Tiff
money
into
there,
but
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
for
some
context.
That
would
help
understand
how
other
Geographic
areas
that
are
in
the
Consolidated
Tiff
continue
to
get
the
benefit
of
being
in
the
Tiff.
D
Understandable
but
just
the
context
of
that
and
the
additional
items
of
2.8
million
for
the
garage
you
know
cost
of
demolition
such
if
we
could
get
something
that
would
Encompass
some
of
these
other
items.
Even
if
it's
you
know
proposed
as
opposed
to
what
it
is
that
way,
we
have
a
context
to
what
the
total
is.
D
B
D
Dealing
with
the
core
building,
specifically,
as
we
got
through
our
historical
committee
that
we
look
through
and
we
look
at
those
the
visual
on
that.
Are
they
using
Limestone
since
we're
looking
for
lead
silver
and
that
I
noticed
the
context
in
regards
to
how
they
had
the
drawing
of
it
and
I'm
just
curious.
If
they're
going
to
the
Limestone
or,
if
they're,
just
using
accent
regards
to
it
because
of
the
sustainability
and
the
lead
aspect.
Because
of
locally
sourced
materials.
F
D
B
D
Got
environmental
constraints
and
climate
change
that
we
really
need
to
look
at
in
regards
to
you
know
the
manufacture
of
the
cement,
the
importing
the
rest
of
it,
as
opposed
to
going
five
miles
from
the
city
of
Bloomington
and
providing
a
locally
sourced
product
that
has
made
our
University
world
renowned
based
on
its
architecture.
So,
as
we
have
this
once
in
a
lifetime
opportunity,
how
do
we
encourage
that
particular
type
of
architecture?
D
I
mean
these
buildings
that
we
build
at
this
present
moment
should
long
Outlast,
all
of
us
and
100
years
from
now
another
Redevelopment
commission,
looking
at
like
the
core
building,
where
it
has
that
structural
integrity
and
the
quality
of
exterior
to
be
able
to
be
continued
and
be
identified
in
this
area.
Yeah.
D
F
B
D
D
D
H
H
So
just
a
correction
that
can
be
amended
with
the
resolution.
M
M
Not
hearing
any
all
entertainment
motion
for
resolution
23-36
with
the
typo
correction.
M
K
Patrick
Darius
engineering
department,
no
problem
with
the
time
I.
These
are
all
part
of
my
project,
so
I'm
interested
in
hearing
the
additional
background
on
them.
K
K
What
this
30
design
will
do
will
set
profile
grades
and
and
Street
widths,
and
also
the
greenway
requirements
shown
in
the
master
plan,
and
this
will
really
be
a
template
for
us
to
build
off
of,
as
we
discuss
with
other
developers,
for
example
like
with
the
core
building,
there's
still
the
discussion
of
how
do
we
meet
their
elevation
with
Jackson
Street
with
the
design,
as
they
start
planning
so
far
ahead
on
on
their
building
design
and
and
so
similar?
K
To
that
we
want
to
have
this
30
design
to
help
developers
as
we
move
through
the
project.
Also
part
of
that
is
to
set
Jackson
Street,
which
is
needed
to
service
the
core
building.
We
need
to
know
how
University
is
going
to
cut
through
the
site
and
how
Jacksonville
access
University
so
we'll
complete
the
30
design
and
then,
in
addition,
we
will
go
to
a
hundred
percent
construction
drawings
for
Jackson
Street
from
first
to
The,
Greenway
or
now
University.
K
So
for
that
we
went
out
with
an
RFI
to
three
or
one
out
with
an
RFI.
We
received
three
proposals:
Crossroads
Engineers
teamed
with
Rea,
who
were
using
for
Phase
One
East
scored
the
highest
we've
started.
Well,
we
negotiated
a
contract
with
them.
The
ready
Grant
had
a
budget
of
550
000
for
the
design.
The
base
design
contract
is
553,
000
and
change.
K
There
is
about
fifty
thousand
dollars
of
not
to
exceed
hourly
rates
that
will
be
authorized
by
engineering
as
needed
for
the
project.
Those
authorizations
include
basically
Environmental
Services
for
utilizing
the
esds
EPA
grant
for
for
both
the
phase
one
and
the
phase
two
environmental
investigations,
so
those
will
not
be
coming
out
of
this
project
budget,
but
that
Grant
is
only
for
phase
one
and
a
phase,
two,
the
additional
analysis
and
necessary
remediations.
K
We
need
another
consultant
to
provide
that
opinion
and
so
we're
using
metric.
Who
is
the
same
consultant.
We
use
on
Phase,
One
East,
familiarity
with
the
area
and
also
to
just
if
needed,
second
opinions,
and
then
the
other
part
is
is
a
geotechnical.
We
have
Geotech
for
First
Street.
We
have
it
for
Phase
One
East.
K
We
have
a
pretty
good
feeling
for
the
area,
but
we
would
like
to,
if
necessary,
utilize
a
Geotech
for
typically,
we
use
them
for
for
soil
analysis
to
see
if
we
can
use
a
thinner,
pavement
section
which
very
quickly
makes
up
for
the
cost
in
the
construction
and
then
again,
all
of
this
will
be
reimbursed
by
the
ready,
Grant
and
the
the
change
in
budget
has
already
been
discussed
with
Roi,
who
administers
the
ready
grant
for
this
available
for
any
questions.
C
C
K
So
the
way
we
the
way
we
set
up
our
plan
designs
is
is
based
upon
indot's
steps,
and
so
they
they
go
through
steps
called
stage,
one
stage,
two
stage:
three
and
then
final,
tracings
and
so
stage.
One
is
basically
a
thirty
percent,
which
means
we
lay
out
the
entire
site.
We
show
where
we
think
utilities
will
work.
We
show
we
where
we
think
the
landscape
architecture
will
work.
K
We
get
a
little
bit
into
the
grades
and
how
those
will
work
together,
but
it
has
not
been
fully
vetted
so
basically
from
to
take
a
30
design
to
a
60
percent.
K
You
get
into
more
of
the
3D
modeling
of
it
to
see
where
pipes
are
going
to
conflict
with
each
other,
where
walls
are
going
to
to
to
meet
how
sidewalks
will
actually
get
down
the
grades
and
and
work
in
there,
and
so
the
30
percent
will
prove
out
conceptually
that
all
the
elevations
will
work
and
it
will
get
us
how
we
will
grade
the
site.
It'll
get
us
how
we
will
get
utilities
to
each
place.
K
How
will
capture
the
storm
water,
but
it
doesn't
go
to
the
next
step
of
vetting,
all
of
those
through
the
next
phase
of
the
design.
C
K
With
all
of
our
designs,
we
own
them,
we
we
will
get
all
of
their
work,
all
of
their
CAD
work,
which
is
and
then
all
of
their
design
assumptions.
K
There
will
be
a
an
additional
expense,
not
utilizing
the
same
firm
if
every
design
firm
that
takes
over
another
design,
I've
been
part
of
that
on
a
on
a
bridge
project
and
we
we
looked
at
it
and
said
we're
just
gonna
start
over
I
I
think
going
to
30
percent
we're
not
going
to
if
we
decide
to
use
a
different
firm,
we're
not
going
to
start
over
because
really
we're
talking
about
the
road
profiles.
K
K
If
we
went
out
for
an
RFI
to
complete
this
design,
I
am
sure
it
would
be
difficult
for
a
design
firm
to
compete
with
Crossroads
experience
on
the
project.
But
if,
if
we
wanted
to
go
back
out
on
a
competitive
process,
I
don't
think
this
would
preclude
us
from
that.
So.
K
I
asked
them
to
price
60.
We
couldn't
I
mean
it
does
not
meet
within
the
ready
Grant.
K
If
we
would
like
to
you
know
if,
if
we'd
like
to
fund
it
further
I
mean
I,
would
I
would
definitely
recommend
to
a
certain
a
certain
extent
further,
but
for
the
ready
Grant.
This
is
what
we
need
to
serve
the
core,
Building,
Development
and
and
then
I
also
think
it
it's
not
a
it's
definitely
not
a
waste
it
will.
It
will
set
elevations
for
future
development.
If
that's
going
to
be,
you
know,
infrastructure
done
by
a
developer.
We'll
already
say
this
is
the
elevation
of
your
road.
K
D
As
you
talk
when
we're
getting
to
30
in
regards
to
it
is
we're
going
out
eight,
nine
and
ten,
and
where
you're
going
up
with
your
profiles
in
regards
to
your
grade
elevations
as
these
developers,
whoever
looks
through
this.
This
will
give
them
the
Baseline
that
they
then
have
to
mark
themselves
to
so.
This
is
essentially
the
Baseline
that
you're
looking
to
do
to
have
not
just
specifically
for
the
core
building,
but
for
the
site
as
a
whole.
K
100
for
the
side
as
a
whole,
this
will
be
Fairview
from
first
to
second,
this
will
be
University
from
Rogers
to
Fairview,
and
then
we
are
looking
at
if
Jackson
Street
can
actually
go
to
Second
Street.
We
think
keeping
that
grade
would
be
great.
K
We
have
IU
Health's
garage
plans
and
we're
getting
into
the
structural
details
of
them
and
making
sure
that
we
can
expose
that
significant
if,
if
you
all
have
been
at
the
site
and
familiar
with
it,
the
the
parking
lot
that
was
at
the
southwest
corner
of
of
Rogers
and
SEC
Rogers
in
second,
there
was
a
wall
on
the
back
side
of
that
by
the
parking
garage.
It's
almost
a
20-foot
wall
and
so
we're
looking
at.
D
K
And
on
the
on
the
50
000,
we
had
already
advised
them
to
remove
it
from
the
construction
inspection
budget
for
this
project
and
talking
with
with
my
department.
If
the
funding
doesn't
extend
to
affording
construction
inspection,
we
would
look
at
performing
that
in-house
I
was
originally
budgeted
to
to
hire
full-time
professional
construction
inspection.
K
We
have
the
skills
in-house,
it's
just
time
commitments,
and
so,
if
the
budget
does
not
work
out,
our
plan
is
to
to
self-perform
that
and
find
the
find
the
the
time
to
be
able
to
do
that.
A
B
I
So,
as
part
of
this
ongoing
Hopewell
development,
the
conversation
continues
and
part
of
this.
This
part
of
the
conversation
is
about
that
main
site,
which
includes
the
core
building
of
the
rec
obtained
two
independent
appraisals
of
those
properties,
and
now
we're
ready
to
publish
a
notice
of
offering,
which
is
like
required
legal
step
where
we
publish
this
in
the
paper
and
then
open
any
bids
that
we
receive
at
technically
a
public
meeting,
it
would
be
held
at
noon
on
May
17th.
I
The
offering
prices
are,
as
shown
on
the
the
notice
of
offering.
So
in
this
case
for
the
entire
property
we've
excluded.
The
garage
our
intent
is
to
keep
that
garage,
but
the
offering
price
for
the
rest
of
the
property
would
be
10.6
million
dollars
or
if
there
are
independent
bids,
it
would
be
1.6
for
the
court
administration
building
and
surrounding
immediately
surrounding
property
and
9
million
for
all
other
developable
land.
I
Of
course,
we
would
accept
bids
for
any
portion
of
that
as
well
and
there's
there's
requirements
just
in
the
statute
about
what
the
status
has.
So
we
have
those
in
there,
including
we
will
be
there's
a
map
available
to
anybody
that
wants
to
bid
on
this.
They
can
come
to
City,
Hall
and
view
it
or
we
can
email
it
to
them.
I
Or
we
receive
offers
that
come
in
below
the
asking
price
we
have
to
wait
30
days
before
we
can
engage
in
an
approval
process
for
for
those
types
of
offers.
So
it's
obviously
common
that
we
get
offers
that
are
for
zero
dollars
or
one
dollar,
and
so
those
will
have
to
just
wait
after
30
days
after
we
have
opened
those
bids
on
May
17th.
So
that
would
be
into
June.
Also
just
to
point
out.
Just
real
quickly
is
there's
a
thousand
dollars
from
the
general
fund
for
the
publication.
I
The
publication
I
don't
know
the
exact
cost
which
is
up
to
why
it's
up
to
a
thousand
dollars.
It
will
not
be
a
thousand
dollars
or
probably
more
in
the
range
of
300
to
400,
but
it's
priced
by
word
in
the
herald
time,
so
I
just
wanted
to
leave
a
little
bit
of
wiggle
room.
So
we
didn't
have
try
to
publish
this
and
find
that
we
don't
have
the
budget
to
actually
do
so.
M
M
E
Hope
I'll
take
this
one.
All
right
also
believe
that
Cody
toothman
is
still
on
from
the
hand
Department
to
pardon
me
to
give
you
some
more
information,
so
we
have
a
rehab
to
bring
before
you
tonight.
Let
me
say
a
word
about
our
rehab
projects
to
everyone.
You
all
have
been
approving
those
that
have
come
up
where
we
need
additional
funds.
There
was
a
big
one
that
we
all
went
through
that
had
two
or
three
iterations
before
the
RDC,
and
so
this
one
there
are
two
tonight.
E
This
one
is
to
a
request,
basically
just
an
increase
in
funds
to
to
finish
off
the
project
and
I'm,
going
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
the
rehabs
just
to
sort
of
tee
this
up
the
next
one
will
be
a
different
scope.
We've
we've
noticed
some
mistakes
that
were
made
in
some
of
our
rehab
projects,
which
I'll
go
into
here
shortly,
but
for
this
one
I
do
want
to
tell
you
we're
questing,
an
additional
3528
and
64
cents.
That
would
include
the
installation
of
some
stainless
steel
for
the
chimney.
E
This
is
some
chimney,
work,
that's
being
done
and
would
also
coat
it
from
the
inside,
and
there
is
also
some
fun
some
funds
in
here
to
replace
a
shattered
door
in
the
basement
of
the
house
and
so
Barry
Collins
who's,
not
able
to
be
here
tonight,
has
been
working
on
this
one
with
the
owners
as
well.
This
would
be
through
the
cdbg
program,
so
it's
a
grant.
Cody
do
you
have
anything
you'd
want
to
add?
E
C
The
cost
complete
in
places
it's
in
the
third
or
in
the
fourth
rare
s
Clause.
It
says
additional
funds
an
amount
not
to
exceed
4134.54,
and
then
it
has
like
a
5
000,
something
like
minus
the
original
contingency
and
then
in
the
paragraph
two
of
the
resolution.
It's
saying:
3528.64
cents
instead
of
4
100
34.54,
so
I'm
happy
I'm,
just
a
little
confused.
So
is.
G
On
this
one,
the
final
total
was
what
we
were
originally
quoted
to
finish
out.
The
project
by
the
contractor
was
actually
over
bid
a
little
bit
because
he
had
actually
already
done
some
of
the
work
that
was
on
that
final
change
order,
so
Barry
when
he
drafted
the
resolution
subtracted
out
the
pertinent
totals
from
that
to
get
the
final
amount
of
the
3528
I
believe.
E
A
E
I
think
the
amount
commissioner
Hutton
you
were
talking
about
is
the
4134
which
matches
the
resolutions
that
includes
the
contingency
there.
So.
C
C
There's
this,
you
know
other
change
order
that
it
is
so
it
sounds
like
the
issue
is
that
the
first,
the
first
breakdown
of
cost
was
the
original
thing
that
was
submitted,
but
there
was
a
problem
with
it,
and
so
what
we
are
looking
at
is
the
change
order,
change
order,
zero,
one,
two
zero
two
two
and
that's
the
one
that
has
the
correct
dollar
amount,
but
that
dollar
amount
doesn't
match
the
dollar
amount.
C
That
is
in
the
resolution,
so
again
happy
to
happy
to
a
vote
affirmatively
but
I,
just
just
knowing
what
it's
supposed
to
be.
D
C
D
C
E
H
D
I
There's
two
ways:
we
could
do
this:
we
could
do
this
on
a
reimbursement
basis,
so
if
the,
if
the
department
used
its
funds
to
continue
this
work,
then
at
the
next
meeting,
if
we
wanted
to
revise
this,
the
the
commission
could
then
just
approve
that
amount.
Now
this
is
this
is
specifically
using
the
guidelines
that
you
all
passed
and
requiring
you
to
approve
any
amount
over
the
the
minimum.
So
that's
that's
the
trickier
part
here.
I
If
we
I
don't
know
what
the
timeline
is
for
the
work
or
what
you're
doing
with
that
I
mean
if
we
wanted,
we
could
actually
even
just
table
this
to
the
end
of
the
meeting.
If
Cody
would
like
to
work
on
and
get
us
the
right
numbers
so
that
we
know
what
we
could
specifically
amend
here,
that
that's
also
possible
just
to
move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
and
then
we
could
come
back
to
this
at
the
very
very
end
after
the
public
hearing.
H
M
E
E
E
Thanks
we'll
come
back
to
you,
okay,
so
on
2140
or
excuse
me,
23
40.
we
are
coming
to
you
tonight.
Don't
need
your
approval
necessarily
of
the
funds,
the
expenditure
as
much
as
we
do
to
memorialize
the
the
situation
here.
Okay,
so
we
when
we
brought
on
Barry
Collins,
we
we
hadn't,
been
doing
a
lot
of
rehabs
Barry
got
a
lot
going
in
the
pipeline,
and
so
a
lot
were
moving
very
quickly,
and
so,
as
you
know,
part
of
these,
it's
required
our
environment.
E
Are
environmental
tests,
environmental
review
any
lead
testing.
If
the
house
is
of
a
certain
age-
and
some
of
that
was
missed,
and
so
on
some
of
these-
and
there
were
probably
seven
projects
that
we
went
back
when
we
started
going
into
these,
we
realized
one.
There
was
one
that
we
set
up.
Okay,
this
was
missed.
How
many
others
were
there,
and
so
we
went
back
and
sort
of
audited
them
and
we
are
caught
up
for
a
couple
of
them.
E
We
realized
in
the
middle
of
the
project
that
it
hadn't
been
done
prior,
so
the
the
regulation
states
that,
before
you
begin
any
work,
you
have
to
do
this
stuff.
If
there
are
any
issues
you
you
do
remediation
and
all
that
stuff
on
on
two
of
them,
specifically
the
work
we
were
right
in
the
middle
of
the
project.
Number
one
was
a
cdbg
grant
project
where
we
we
were
replacing
water
had
Frozen.
This
was
a
situation
where
the
freeze
happened.
E
Over
Christmas,
a
person
had
not
been
able
to
use
their
indoor
plumbing
and
the
pipes
froze
and
then
burst,
and
then
once
when
that
got
fixed,
they
realized
that
the
sewer
pipe
was
bad,
and
so
they
they
dug
into
the
ground.
They
put
a
shovel
on
the
ground,
uncovered
the
zero
pipe
realized
that
was.
It
was
asbestos,
and
so
we
contacted
HUD
and
said:
what
do
we
do
and
they
said
you
have,
you
should
have
done
the
Environmental
Testing
ahead
of
time.
We
said
we
get
that
you
can
either
wait.
E
E
This
one
is
through
the
home
program,
which
is
an
owner
occupied
rehab,
which
is
a
loan
and
the
reason
we're
bringing
it
to
you
tonight
is
because
just
to
for
transparency
to
make
you
aware
that
this
happened,
but
also
the
agreements
are
loan
based,
and
so
once
the
property
is
no
longer
an
asset
of
the
homeowner,
whether
or
not
they
are
there
or
the
house
is
sold.
E
That
money
would
need
to
come
back
to
the
city
prior
to
it
being
dispersed
elsewhere,
and
we
want
to
maintain
that
Integrity
of
that
loan
so
that
we
do
get
the
money
back,
because
the
grant
agreements
or
the
loan
agreements
were
say
home
home
program,
HUD
and
reference
federal
guidelines.
Legal
thought
this
was
the
best
best
solution
to
sort
of
memorialize
this
transaction
and
keep
everything
as
it
is.
E
Rather
than
going
back
and
doing
all
the
agreements
again
doing
a
resolution
that
just
acknowledges
that
we
use
local
funds
for
this
with
this
house,
this
is
a
historic
home
and
there
was
a
lead
issue
here
and
so
working
started
on
the
exterior
and
in
the
basement,
and
so
we
are,
you
will
look
at
the
breakdown
of
costs
which
you
can
see.
We
need
to
do
these
a
little
differently.
Next
time
there
have
been
a
couple
of
steps
of
lead
remediation,
there's,
no
one
in
the
house.
E
That
is
that
the
homeowner
is
working
with
us
and
she's,
not
of
the
age
that
would
put
her
in
danger
of
lead,
poisoning
and,
and
everything
is
okay
from
that
front.
That
was
one
of
the
first
things
we
we
tackled,
but
work
is
continuing
here
and
we
want
to
keep
it
going
because
this
all
has
also
happened
in
the
middle.
So
we
have
used
local
funds
for
this
as
well
the
local
funds.
E
We
used
our
program
funds
out
of
the
hand,
Department
you'll
see
a
reference
to
the
256
account,
and
that
is
those
are
local
funds
that
are
program
dollars
that
the
department
had
been
allocated
a
number
of
years
ago
in
last
year
as
part
of
the
budget
process,
we
sort
of
reorganized
and
cleaned
some
things
up
and
that
left
a
a
fund
that
left
program
funds
there
that
we
could
use
say
this
carefully
at
the
Department's
discretion,
and
so
we
talked
to
the
controller's
office
in
the
mayor's
office
and
said:
here's
what
we
think
we
should
do,
the
other
five
or
so
we
've
won.
E
We
hadn't
really
we'd,
either
substantially
completed
the
work
or
we
hadn't
begun
it
enough
to
say
we
can't.
We
couldn't
stop
things
and
so
I
put
stop
work,
orders
on
a
couple
of
projects
to
stop
everything
until
we
get
this
stuff
done,
others
were
cleared
by
Hud
I
mean
when
you
do
the
environmental
review
process.
There's
a
step
process
you
either
it
becomes
exempt
because
there's
nothing
that
goes
on
and
everything's
clear.
The
house
doesn't,
there's
no
lead
it's.
The
house
is
newer
whatever,
and
it
clears
pretty
well
in
the
system.
E
There
are
some
that
flag.
So
if
there's
a
lead
issue
or
with
the
house
that
you
all
approved
on
Hopewell
Street,
it's
proximal
to
a
railroad,
and
so
where
we
felt
there
was
an
issue
that
we
didn't
need
to
go
and
do
anything
we
went
ahead
and
sent
that
to
HUD.
Everything
else
is
cleared
so
HUD
signed
off
on
on
others,
and
we
have
the
request
for
release
of
funds,
and
we
should
be
in
good
shape.
E
This
one,
however,
was
a
bigger
deal,
and
so
there
you
are
so
we're
asked
tonight
is
to
improve
the
resolution
to
sort
of
memorialize
that
situation.
D
L
E
Worked
with
the
homeowner
through
this
process,
the
contractor
also
is
recertifying
their
lead
certification,
which
we
are
helping
pay
for
which
we've
done
in
the
past.
So
we
have
lead
certified
contractors
that
can
do
the
work
on
on
homes
that
are
may
have
had
lead
paint
in
there.
So
so
we
feel
good
about
where
we
are
we've
corrected
the
process.
I
will
tell
you,
you
may
ask
logical
question:
how
did
stuff
like
this
get
missed?
E
I
think
the
transfer
of
the
rehab
project
management
from
staff
to
staff
resulted
in
some
changes
on
how
they
were
done.
We
have
reinstituted
a
checklist
that
is
about
10
pages,
so
nothing
happens
without
I
have
to
sign
it
at
three
different
places
and
everything
goes
in
a
way
that
will
allow
you
know.
We
know
that
nothing
is
100.
I
come
back
to
you
and
say
we
made
another
mistake,
but
we
feel
pretty
good
about
the
correction
we
made
here
to
take.
E
Take
the
action
that
needed
picture
stuff
like
this
didn't
happen
again
and
so,
and
everyone
on
staff
now
knows
because
Gloria,
our
historic
preservation
program
manager,
does
the
bulk
of
the
environmental
reviews.
That's
part
of
her
job
description,
and
so
we
have
a
different
process.
We
use
too
that
these
projects
now
so
we
feel
good
about
the
corrective
action
we
took,
but
did
make
a
mistake
here.
So
this.
E
Yeah
we
are
sort
of
caught
up
now,
so
all
the
all
the
problems
we
had
sort
of
going
into
the
holidays
and
the
first
in
the
first
quarter,
we're
sort
of
caught
up
all
the
stop.
Work.
Orders
are
lifted
and
nothing
is
sort
of
on
hold
anymore.
D
E
E
We
should
have
about
40
000
left
in
there
once
this
project
is
completed.
So
some
of
the
additional
expenses
that
came
with
this
project
are
LED
lead
remediation,
so
there
was
lead,
lead
was
cleaned
up
once
and
then
they're
the
basement.
The
foundation
has
some
issues,
and
so
there
is
a
lead
that
gets
in
when
it
rains.
E
There's
lead
that
kind
of
comes
in
off
the
walls
in
the
basement,
and
so
the
environmental
firm
has
recommended
that
we
do
a
lead
clearance
when
all
the
all
the
work
is
done,
come
back
and
do
a
lead
clearance
and
the
homeowner
is
okay
with
that.
So
and.
D
E
This
was
not.
This
was
not
money
that
was
appropriated
for
a
specific
program,
and
so
we
have
all
of
our
other
programs
are
intact
here.
So
we
just
obviously
not
ideal
that
we
used
local
funds
for
this.
We
don't
like
to
do
that
when
you
violate
regulation,
which
is
what
happened
here
technically,
we
did
not
follow
regulations,
so
we
otherwise
violated
it.
They
will
do
a
finding
and
tell
you
you
need
to
do
this
differently.
Next
time
or
they'll
make
you
pay
the
money
back.
E
We
sort
of
said
on
these
two
we're
we're
not
even
going
to
try
I
didn't
think
it
was
I
mean
HUD,
told
us
on
the
first
one
on
the
second
one.
We
just
said
this
is
too
messy
for
to
elevate
it
for
an
environmental
review.
We
need
to
get
the
work
done.
We've
got
lead
there,
we're
just
going
to
get
it
done.
M
A
L
E
E
Department
HUD
wants
us
to
wanted
us
to
include
different
language
in
our
public
notice,
and
so
because
we
didn't
do
that.
They
would
like
us
to
have
another
public
hearing,
which
is
what
we're
doing
tonight.
I
will
also
tell
you
there
were
some
date.
E
E
The
recommended
use
of
funds
based
on
the
about
40
hours
we
did
of
consultation
in
putting
this
allocation
plan
together
with
was
a
focus
on
Supportive
Services,
so
assessments
case
management,
housing,
navigation,
ongoing
case
management,
Street
Outreach,
which
would
include
ongoing,
just
sustained
Street
Outreach
to
complement
efforts
of
our
Dr
downtown
resource
officers
and
Community
Family
Resources,
as
well
as
Medical
Services
groups
like
Health
Net,
who
are
doing
some
of
that
on
on
the
street
triage
Medical,
Care,
also
rental
projects
with
Supportive
Housing.
E
And,
of
course
we
want
to
complement
this
with
the
efforts
of
the
heading
home
of
South
Central
Indiana
initiative,
who
are
close
Partners
on
this.
So
we
have
the
same
draft
budget.
This
is
what
was
presented
to
you
prior
to
the
plan's
submission
I
have
a
tilde
next
to
development
of
affordable
rental
housing.
We
are
getting
some
feedback
on
that
that,
depending
on
the
status
of
the
project,
we
may
not
be
able
to
put
these
dollars
into
them.
E
E
Arpa
was
not
that
way,
and
so
we
have
realized
that
there
is
a
which
path
did
they
take
here
and
they've
taken
the
Home
Path
there,
and
so
we
are
getting
a
few
data
points
back,
asking
us
for
more
information
on
data
to
increase
or
to
to
make
evidence
that
we
do
in
fact
have
a
gap
for
case
management
and
supportive
services
and
so
we're
working
with
providers
to
return
that
information
back
to
HUD
here
in
in
toward
the
end
of
May.
E
So
again
we
have
until
2030
to
spend
these
funds
when
they're
when
they're
the
plan
is
approved.
So
a
plan
is
undergoing
revisions.
I'll
get
those
back
to
head
on
May
19th,
that's
the
sort
of
deadline,
the
30
45
day
deadline.
They
they
ask.
We've
got
data
coming
back
public
hearing
tonight
and
I'll.
Ask
any
public
comments,
get
back
to
me
by
May
15th
and
I'll
incorporate
them
into
the
plan,
if
needed
prior
to
submitting
it
back
to
HUD
so
happy
to
answer
any
questions
from
there.
E
Slide
please
on
the
budget,
yeah
yeah.
H
How
would
those
be
allocated?
Is
that
something
that's
on
a
competitive
basis
or.
E
So
what
what
has
to
happen?
It's
a
good
question.
What
we're
envisioning
now
is.
It
is
not
in
the
plan
how
it
that
that's
not
provided
in
detail.
We
would
do
it.
My
current
thing
is:
we
would
do
it
similar
in
how
we
do
cdbg.
Maybe
one
of
the
challenges
we're
going
to
have
is
that
this
is
roughly
800
000.
E
That
has
to
go
over
a
number
of
years
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
narrowed
and
focused
to
the
Supportive
Services
that
were
included
and
approved
and
that
they're
just
limited
to
those
that
serve
these
four
qualifying
populations.
That's
a
requirement,
so
my
current
thought
and
thought
of
others
I've
talked
to
is
that
we
would
do
sort
of
a
competitive
grant
program.
That's
where
we
are
right
now.
E
Don't
know
I
think
we,
my
my
thought,
is
once
this
plan
gets
approved
and
we
signed
a
grant
agreement
which
will
allow
us
to
use
the
funds
we
have
to
get
a
group
back
together
and
I
think
we
need
to
really
have
a
serious
conversation
about
how
those
funds
are
dispersed
if
it
makes
sense
to
do
one
round.
Four,
you
have
two
or
three
years
to
spend
this
money
or
we
do
an
annual
round.
A
E
Not
there's
a
government
Farm,
yeah
and
and
the
seven
years
you'll
have
to
spend
it
down
prior
to
that,
because
there's
accounting
and
everything
else
has
to
happen.
But
that
is
the
drop
dead
deadline
to
have
a
spin.
M
Success
metrics
would
be
in
place
spending
the
money.
Did
it
have
the
the
outcomes
that
that
you
know
we're
looking
for?
Is
that
an
annual
reporting
requirement
and
if,
if
the
those
metrics
aren't
being
met,
would
funding
stop
at
that
point?
So
it's
not
seven
years
and
we
get
nothing
to
show
for
it.
E
M
H
I
had
one
more
comment:
if
I
could
just
we
have
a
copy
of
the
notice
of
public
Hearing
in
the
packet
and
it's
pretty
General,
but
I
mean
what
you
have
here
is
actually
a
bit
more
specific
and
I'm.
Just
you
know
it's
just
trying
to
understand
in
terms
of
because
you
mentioned
there
was.
You
know
something
public
notice
that
wasn't
fully
fulfilled
last
time
in
terms
of
accommodations
Etc
is
it?
H
Is
there
a
format
to
be
able
to
provide
a
little
more
information
about
what
the
public
hearing
will
cover,
or
is
that
available
on
a
link?
The
city
provides
because
again
this
just
talks
about
you
know
activities
and
who
it
can
benefit,
but
it
doesn't
really
give
an
idea
what
the
city's
proposing
okay
or
where
it's
at
so
I
was
just
wondering.
Is
that
something
that's
available?
If
somebody
saw
there
was
a
public
hearing
and
wants
to
make
public
comment
where
they'd
have
more
information
about
what
would
actually
be
discussed
at
the
public
hearing.
E
E
H
Like
somebody
sees
the
the
public
notice
and
they're,
like
oh
I,
wonder
what's
going
on
with
that,
is
there
anything
that
the
city
could
have
provided
or
could
in
the
future
that
we're
getting
now
that
doesn't
appear
in
this
public
notice?
It
just
seems
like
it
would
be
more
inviting
to
for
public
comment
to
provide
some
more
information
than
what
is
in
this
kind
of
standard
public
notice.
E
So
the
the
plan
was
online
during
the
30-day
public
comment
period.
Okay,
so
when
we
did
the
previous
Public
Notices
and
then
when
I
went
to
the
council,
I
did
with
for
the
council
three
times,
I
think
and
said
this
is
happening.
Here's
what
our
public
meetings
are.
Here's,
how
we're
I
basically
give
this
PowerPoint
presentation
for
the
city
council
ahead
of
the
public
meetings
and
then
put
it
online
during
the
public
hearing.
E
So
at
this
point
now
that
we're
sort
of
we're
doing
this
sort
of
a
makeup
hearing
right
at
this
point,
I
would
still
refer
them
to
the
draft
plan
and
we
could
put
it
back
online
if
we
wanted
to
that's.
M
D
Right:
go
ahead.
Real
quick
question
regards
to
it,
based
on
our
notice
of
public
hearing
time
frame,
we're
dealing
with
versus
or
as
it
comes
into
Redevelopment
into
hand.
When
will
these
programs
actually
be
able
to
be
start
being
utilized
accordingly
and
sure
take
care
of
some
of
the
problems
based
upon
the
allocations
of
the
dollars
and
these
arpa
funds,
which
please
clarify
me
they're
running
through
Redevelopment,
because
they're
hand
distributed?
Is
that.
E
So
we
anticipate
that
the
so
the
reason
they're
running
through
here
is
because
the
RDC
is
the
oversight
body
for
hand.
Once
the
revisions
are
approved,
there
could
be
a
couple
more
back
and
forth
between
us
and
HUD.
I
expect
the
Korean
agreement
to
happen
late
summer
fall
and
then
maybe
around
the
first
of
the
year.
We
would
have
Grant
a
grant
program
that
we
could.
We
could
get
funding
out
so
start
looking
to
see
how
we
yeah.
E
M
All
right
not
hearing
any
public
comment.
This
will
end
the
public
hearing
portion
of
our
meeting
tonight
and
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
resolution
23-39
to
see
if
there's
been
any
finalization
on
those
numbers.
E
G
So
the
4
000
number
was
actually
the
correct
one.
It
looks
like
the
glass
door
change
order.
Number
two
that's
listed
wasn't
added
on
to
the
total
in
the
resolution,
so
that
would
contingency
should
be
the
difference.
So.
F
E
I
G
I
The
reason
why
I
ask
is,
for
the
commission's
sake,
this
is
at
minimum,
it's
about
seven
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
over
the
ten
thousand
dollar
limit.
It
might
be
best
to
be
on
the
safe
side,
since
there
are
a
lot
of
contingencies
here,
just
through
the
basis
I,
don't
think
it
makes
sense
to
take
out
the
contingency
from
the
approval
number.
If
we're
gonna
build
in
a
10
contingency,
it
seems
like
you
all
have
to
approve
that
10
contingency
for
anything
else.
I
That
goes
wrong,
so
my
recommendation
here
Cody
and
everybody
else
would
be
to
just
go
ahead
and
improve
I
would
approve
7
500
just
to
be
on
the
safe
side,
so
a
total
amount
not
to
exceed
17
500
for
this
project.
That
way,
there's
no
question
that
both
change
orders
are
covered
with
contingencies.
On
top
of
that,
if
that
makes
sense
Cody,
how
do
you
feel
about
that.
G
I
believe
the
contingency
was
removed
because
it
had
not
yet
been
encompassed
fully
within
the
change
orders,
and
that's
why
Barry
decided
to
remove
that
total
or
subtract
it
from
the
remaining
amount
there.
A
So
just
to
clarify
Larry.
If
we
look
at
the
fourth
Contin
fourth,
whereas
we
don't
talk,
we
won't
you're
right.
Are
you
recommending
that
we
don't
mention
the
four
thousand?
The
five
thousand
the
ten
percent
continue
four
hundred
dollars
minus
original.
We
go
straight
to
we
request.
A
I
C
There
a
way
to
add
here
additionally
like,
if
they're
what,
if
we
did,
vote
on
something
previously
and
whereas,
like
we
already.
E
B
C
I
C
I
Be
careful,
my
other
suggestion
would
say,
is
to
have
Cody
and
Barry
if
they're
willing
to
come
back
to
the
next
meeting
and
Report
out
on
the
specific
amounts
expended.
So
we
know
what
we
save
on
that
and
whether
those
contingencies
are
necessary.