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A
Okay,
well,
first,
we'll
have
on
the
agenda
the
minutes
for
two
for
May,
the
1st
2023
and
the
executive
summary
for
the
same
date.
Any
questions
or
comments
from
the
Commissioners.
If
not
I'll,
entertain
a
motion.
A
B
A
Second,
that
motion
I
have
a
first
and
second,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
passes
unanimously.
A
Next
item
is
payroll
registers
again
for
two
dates
for
April
the
21st
2023
for
33
875.98
and
for
May,
the
5th
2023
for
34
575.96.
A
Do
any
questions
or
comments
from
the
Commissioners
and,
if
not
I'll,
entertain
a
motion?
I'll
make
a
motion
to.
A
In
favor,
say:
aye
aye
aye
not
opposed
passes
unanimously.
Next
is
report
of
officers.
Will
there
be
a
director's
report.
G
Any
Commissioners,
just
a
few
things
I
do
want
to
let
the
commission
know
that
I
think
I'd
mentioned
this
before,
but
our
annual
action
plan
for
HUD
is
underground
revisions,
and
so
we
are
have
scheduled
two
public
hearings
for
that
we've
done
a
series
of
those
you
all
approved
projects,
but
we're
going
to
do
two
more
of
those
one
of
schedules
for
tomorrow
night
at
five
o'clock
in
the
Dunlap
room.
The
other
is
scheduled
for
next
Tuesday
at
five
o'clock
in
the
Dunlap
room.
G
Those
previously
and
normally
would
be
at
an
RDC
meeting.
But
given
the
length
of
the
agenda
and
what's
everything's
on
the
rdc's
plate
this
spring,
we
went
ahead
and
scheduled
those
at
other
times,
but
certainly
wanted
to
make
you
guys
aware
of
of
that
as
well.
In
case
you
had
any
comments
or
knew
of
anyone.
Those
have
been
properly
noticed
in
the
paper
and
we're
good
to
go,
but
I
wanted
to
share
that
with
you.
G
G
That
is
a
proposed
to
be
a
very
large
development
and
there
is
a
consideration
for
a
tiff
district
there,
and
so
I
want
to
start
to
bring
that
up,
maybe
coming
in
the
rdc's
way
later
this
spring
or
summer
and
I
want
to
just
sort
of
introduce
the
issue
and
we're
working
with
the
development
group
and
and
other
City
staff
to
see
what
that
looks
like.
G
But
it
could
be
coming
down
your
way
on
on
considering
a
different
kind
of
Tiff
district
for
that
that
area
so
and
finally,
happy
to
report
that
we
have
hired
an
assistant
director
for
hand.
Her
name
is
Anna
Killian,
Hansen
she's,
a
Bloomington
native.
It's
got
a
lot
of
experience
in
the
real
estate.
Housing
Industry
will
join
us
on
June
12th
and
we
had
our
newest
neighborhood
compliance
officer
start
today.
So
we
will
be
back
at
full
staff
at
Hand
by
June
12th.
So
we're
happy
about
that
so
happy
to
answer
your
questions.
B
G
Well,
not
right
now,
what's
under
consideration
that
most
of
that
is
currently
in
the
Consolidated
Tiff,
so
the
question
would
be
if
that
would
continue
to
be
in
the
Consolidated
Tiff
or
if
it
would
be
a
project-based
tiff
right
now,
residential
Tiff,
depending
on
where
the
types
of
housing
go,
would
determine
what
is
what
is
more
beneficial
from
a
tiff
perspective,
it's
if
it's
residential
or
if
it
stays
commercial
depending
on
the
assessment
of
the
type
of
house,
so
not
quite
there
yet,
but
just
like
I
said
I
want
to
introduce
the
issue
and
we'll
keep
you
all
updated.
A
You
director
is
there
a
legal
report.
I
have
no
report.
I'm
happy
answer
any
questions.
Unless
my
boss
says,
is
there
a
Treasures
report?
His
name
is
Larry
no
report
happy
to
answer
questions.
Thank
you.
Is
there
a
business
development
report.
A
D
S
active
president,
the
first
one
is
going
to
be
the
Hopewell
perspective,
owner's
representation,
presentation.
G
Well,
I'll
open
it
up
and
then
I
say
Deb
Koons
on
the
on
the
line
there,
but
as
we
told
you
about
the
May
first
meeting,
we've
been
going
through
the
process
of
determining
the
best
course
for
an
owner's
development
representative
for
the
Hopewell
project,
and
we
have
narrowed
that
down
to
our
recommendation
and
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
have
them
present
to
you
tonight
and
and
then
we
will
come
back
to
you,
the
next
meeting
or
so
with
other
things,
depending
on
where
all
this
goes
so
Deb.
E
It
would
be
also
helpful
to
just
remind
the
commission
about
the
process
that
we've
gone
through.
It's
been
fairly
expensive,
where
we
interviewed
five
different
firms.
We
then
shortlisted
to
two
firms.
For
you,
three
advisors,
Who
was
the
firm
that
we
are
going
to
hear
from
tonight.
They
have
not
only
been
through
three
interviews,
but
they've
also
provided
additional
documentation
at
least
two
or
three
times,
so
we
put
them
through
the
ringer
so
far,
but
we
expect
you
to
do
the
same
tonight
and
tonight
is
about
learning
a
little
bit
more
about
them.
E
How
what
they
they
can
do
for
the
commission
and
For
Hopewell,
in
particular,
in
bringing
more
developers
to
the
table
more
opportunities
for
development
and
really
to
bring
that
expertise
of
development
to
the
team
which
you're
going
to
hear
from
you.
Three
advisors
tonight
is
you're,
going
to
hear
a
lot
of
strong
affordability,
experience,
deep
sustainability
experience,
a
design
Excellence
that
is
represented
in
the
past
work
and
the
ability
to
collaborate
with,
particularly
in
towns
where
there
is
kind
of
that
town
and
gown
opportunities,
but
they
also
have
that
Regional
and
National
League
I.
E
I
A
I
Great
so
first
let
me
just
say
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
tonight
and
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
of
myself,
my
colleagues,
our
team
and
how
I
think
we
can
approach
this
generational
and
transformational
opportunity
privilege
to
have
spent
this
much
time
with
with
Dad
and
the
team
and
appreciate
the
the
chance.
I
By
way
of
introduction,
so
I'm
Todd,
Stern
I'm,
a
managing
director
and
partner
at
u3
I,
have
worked
in
different
areas
of
commercial,
real
estate
and
real
estate.
Finance.
H
I
They're
close
to
25
years
I
began
my
career
working
at
Goldman
Sachs
in
their
Municipal
finance
department,
doing
tax
exempt
Bond
deals
for
universities,
municipalities
and
other
exempt
issuers,
and
then,
after
graduate
school,
went
back
there
and
worked
for
a
number
of
years,
investing
in
ground
up
mixed
use
and
mixed
income
development,
including
transactions
and
new
markets,
tax
credits,
low-income
housing,
tax
credits,
historic
tax
credits,
variety
of
the
tools
that
we
all
use
every
day
in
Economic
Development
works
for
a
number
of
years.
I
After
that,
for
a
private
developer
and
learned
about
all
the
reasons
why
great
product
developers
sometimes
say
all
that
development.
It
was
a
abject
lesson
in
how
to
develop
and
sometimes
how
not
to
develop,
and
then
I
joined
you
three
years
ago
and
I'm
responsible
for
a
New
York
office.
So
in
this
role
a
lot
of
what
I
do
is
advise
our
clients,
both
Municipal
and
what
we're
not
profit
client
on.
H
I
To
navigate
exactly
this
type
of
situation,
where
we
are
at
the
edge
of
a
municipal
or
the
profit
of
land
and
interacting
with
the
private
development
Market
having
having
worked
on
multiple
sides
as.
H
I
Table
with
and
against
developers,
we
both
have
a
pretty
good
network
of
folks
that
we've
worked
with
who
do
develop,
but
also
a
pretty
good
perspective
on.
You
know
where
the
capital
markets
are
at
any
given
time
how
developers
are
thinking
about
risk
of
deployment
of
capital
and
where
we
think
some
of
the
points
of
negotiation
will
tend
to
land,
not
just
on
their
purchase,
price
or
morale
red,
but
on
many
of
the
other
terms
that
will
inevitably
come
up
in
a
protracted
multi-phase
mixed-use
negotiation.
It's
just
a
bit
about
me.
I
Let
me
also
invite
my
colleague
Eric
Anderson,
to
introduce
himself.
J
J
I
have
a
background
starting
in
Corporate,
Finance
and
Accounting
world
with
pricewaterhousecoopers
and
then
after.
After
going
back
to
school
for
urban.
J
For
a
number
of
years
in
Municipal,
Economic
Development,
before
joining
you
three
just
a
little
bit
after
time
about
seven
and
a
half
years
ago,
and
have
a
privilege
to
work
with
him
and
having
a
great
rest
of
our
team,
100
members
on
all
those
projects
that
have
been
taught
with
us
in
terms
of
finding
that
right
now
and
helping
the
musicality,
talented
University.
J
You
know
the
right
Department
in
with
that
being
a
number
of
different
things
for
for
advancing
their.
I
I
By
our
colleague,
Andrew
fix
who's,
an
Associated
u3
Andrew
comes
out
of
New
York
City's,
Economic,
Development,
Corporation
and
so
has
had
an
upfront
seat
to
you,
know:
Municipal
negotiation
of
public-private
transactions
and
is
a
a
financial
and
transactional
Powerhouse
and
we're
delighted
to
have
him
on
our
team
and
then
not
able
to
be
here
today.
I
Jay
corneal
who's,
a
senior
advisor
with
you,
three
who
formerly
was
a
partner
at
Sasaki
and
who
brings
just
a
25
30-year
career
in
great
Urban,
Design
Place,
making
design
excellence
and
then,
last
but
not
least,
my
partner.
Our
principle
co-founder
Karen
back
as
who
is
traveling.
They
couldn't
be
here
tonight,
but
we'll
also
play
the
role
of
senior
advisor
just
bringing
her.
You
know,
30
plus
years
of
experience
in
real
estate
and
transactions
and
economic
development.
I
Foreign,
so,
broadly
speaking
about
you,
three
we're
an
advisory
firm,
we're
not
a
broker,
we're
not
a
developer,
we're
about
25
people
in
a
few
different
offices
around
the
country
for
primarily
in
Philadelphia
and
New
York
Boston
area
from
Los
Angeles,
and
you
know,
I
would
say
that
we,
we
are
most
active
at
the
intersection
of
a
municipal,
old
land
or
delay
at
the
edge
of
that
space,
where
you're
engaging
with
the
private
development
Community
a
lot
of
what
we
do
across
asset
classes,
whether
it's
retail
residential
office
lodging
is
help
our
clients
articulate
their
long-term
mission
objectives.
I
I
S
and
then
translate
them
into
some
kind
of
a
long-term
partnership
with
the
developer,
where
your
interests
are
protected,
but
that
offers
given
enough
Financial
return
to
motivate
them
to
to
engage
in
this
kind
of
a
transaction
where
they're,
where.
H
I
Negotiate
those
both
legal
transactional
structures
and
then
Urban,
Design
and
District
planning.
You
know
we're
not
in
our
DNA
other
than
my
colleague
Jan
we're,
not
planners
or
Architects,
but
I
think
we
have
a
pretty
Keen
sense
of
place
making
and
the
importance
of
place
making
to
helping
our
clients
achieve
their
their
mission
objectives.
I
Place
making
done
right
can
be
a
bridge
or
a
gateway
to
sustainability
and
to
affordability,
to
porosity
and
inclusivity.
Bringing
different
communities
in
to
engage
in
the
kinds
of
the
ground
floor
activation
that
we
might
include
placemaking
not
done
well
means
you
know
oftentimes,
and
there
are
Myriad
examples
of
this
around
the
country.
You
know
the
first
30
feet
of
a
building
dark
glass,
a
place
to
delay,
uninviting
unwelcoming.
I
Excuse
me
just
very
briefly
a
little
bit
about
our
experience
and
some
of
some
of
it
some
of
the
ways
in
which
it's
relevant.
We
think
to
what
we're
doing
here
and
I
won't
picture
these
in
any
detail.
I
could
spend
hours
on
each
one,
but
you
know
Hazel
Hazard,
with
a
200
acre
ground,
formal
route.
You'll
say
one
of
the
riverfronts
in
Pittsburgh,
where
our
role
has
been
to
First
identify
a
master
developer.
I
I
Interesting
and
compelling
ways
to
do
great
jobs,
to
create
wealth,
to
create
engagement
and
to
kind
of
pull
this
neighborhood
back
into
of
an
economic.
You
know
vital
role
as
we
build
up
all
of
this
Innovation
space
at
16,
Tech
in
Indianapolis.
You've
been
working,
as
some
of
you
may
know,
the
last
eight
or
nine
months,
Eric
with
them
on
a
range
of
their
program
and
developer
related
activities,
helping
think
about
how
to
tune
their
master
plan
to
the
current
market
to
the
current
set
of
opportunities
that
developers
are
looking.
H
I
Make
the
story
compelling
I
had
to
think
about
kind
of
the
way
that
The
Innovation
program
at
16
Tech
10
kind
of
come
together
and
and
accelerate
and
bear
together?
If
you
want
to
stand
any
further
about
that,.
J
And
I
think
that's
a
great
description,
I'm
going
to
be
an
Indian
in
the
in
the
coming
weeks
to
help
them
with
with
some
meetings
with
developers
and
and
and
so
we've
as
Scott
suggested
at
least
eight
or
nine
months
been
reporting
through
this
process
of
helping
them
refine
the
plan
and
and
word
out
and
trend
transitioning
that
into
really
betting
real
opportunities
and
and
I
think
I'm.
J
A
confident
saying
that
we
did
cool
to
line
up
a
great
bunch
of
national
investing
class
Developers
for
them
who
are
who
are
coming
to
visit
and
talk
about
yeah,
a
variety
of
Engagement
and
development
opportunities.
So
I
think
it's
such.
J
I
Eric
College,
Park,
Maryland,
well
not
directly
applicable
I.
Think
the
thing
I
wanted
to
call
out
here
is:
we've
had
a
probably
10,
plus
year
relationship
with
the
University
of
Maryland
and
the
City
of
College
Park
Maryland,
where
our
role
has
been
to
really
set
forward
a
long-term
master
plan
Division
and
then
to
help
them
go.
Execute
partial
by
parcel
Hotel
housing,
retail
Municipal,
Municipal
Services
that
relationship's
ongoing.
Again
it's
been
one
where
we've
looked
at.
I
Basically
every
every
across
the
gamut
and
just
conducted
a
number
of
successful
developer
procurements
to
bring
up
to
bring
private
Capital
to
Bear
on
College,
Park,
Maryland
and.
I
L
I
Tee
up
the
development
of
large,
high-profile,
high-impact
sites
that
emphasize
the
importance
of
long-term,
affordable
housing
for
Atlanta
residents
Bowen
homes.
This
is
one
of
the
engages
we're
working
on
we're
working
on
a
second
for
the
Atlanta
Housing
Authority
and
the
Midtown
neighborhood
of
Atlanta,
where
we
have
the
last
two
years
run
a
procurement
to
select
the
developer,
a
mixed
mixed
income
developer
and
we're
now
negotiating
the
development
agreements
there
to
to
bring
that
developer
into
the
fold.
I
J
Yeah
I'll
jump
in
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
our
understanding
of
the
hopeful
project
is
is
in
our
approach
to
it.
We
recognize
that
this
is
a
tremendously
important
opportunity.
L
J
Of
effort
that's
already
gone
into
preparing
it,
and
and
laying
the
groundwork
and
Our
intention
is
to
to
Zachary
to
speak
to
get
that
too,
of
treating
it
as
an
important
and
generational
opportunity
that
can
really
play
a
critical
role
in
shaping
the
future
of
Bloomington
and
and
kudos
to
the
team.
Here
for
for
all
that,
you've
accomplished
already.
J
Our
understanding
of
the
role
here
that
we
would
play
to
to
coordinate
the
Safelite
strategy
and
with
the
real
eye
towards
those
those
critical
aspects
that
exportability
and
sustainability
amongst
other
efforts
bringing
in
again
National
investing
class
developers.
Folks
who
have
who
know
how
to
do
this
and
and
are
going
to
to
Advance
this
project
and
instead
of
better
remember
the
Leading
Edge
in
in
terms
of
best
practices,
to
ensure
a
competitive,
solicitation
and
development
that
we're.
J
That
City
gets
the
right
price
here
and
gets
the
rate
Returns
on
its
Investments
on
this
project.
But
there
are
a
number
of
other
terms
that
are
rolled
up
in
that
as
well.
For
the.
H
L
J
H
J
A
couple
more
slides
all
over
your
questions
in
terms
of
our
processes,
we
understand
it
were
going
to
look
at
this.
J
J
B
J
There's
there's
multiple
phases
to
this
in
terms
of
laying
the
groundwork.
This
is
really
part,
marketing
and
hard
soliciting
information
back
in
terms
of
how
we
bring
the
opportunity
best
to
make
it
as
attractive
as
possible
to
get
to
ensure
that
we're
working
towards
the
shared
goals
and
objectives
for
for
the
development
for
finding
the
procurement
strategy
that
comes
out
of
that
and.
H
J
The
RFI
leaving
those
negotiations
with
the
developer
doing
additional
due
diligence
to
vet
any
developers
that
may
not
occur
laid
up
in
a
prospective
Partners
here
and
a
movement
project
forward,
and
the
one
thing
that
maybe
is
not
fully
captured
on
here
is
the
iterativeness
of
all
of
this
and
understand
the
multi-phase
project.
A
multi-based.
I
The
clock
is
ticking
that
we've
already
we're
already
underway
on
8,
9
and
10,
so
I
think
we're
think
we're
going
to
start
making
sure
that
we
get
very
up
to
speed
quickly
on
everything.
That's
happened
so
far
on
the
market
condition
and
then
try
to
bring
forward.
You
know
our
best
recommendation.
We've
had
on
the
first
block
well,
while
also
teeing
up
keying
up
the
second
term,
so
just
want
to
affirm
that
we're
repeating
repeated.
I
I
C
First
question
ladies
Randy
Randy
Cassidy
question
in
regards
to
first
off
just
giving
Bloomington,
Indiana
and
I
think
you've
probably
worked
with
Deb
some
on
the
16
Tech
Park.
Is
that
a
correct
statement?
Deb.
H
H
C
Well,
it's
good
to
have
a
familiar
aspect,
so
the
first
question
I
have
is
any
of
the
three
of
you
been
to
Bloomington,
physically
and
I'm,
not
into
Bloomington,
okay
and
then
aha,
which
brings
me
to
the
next
question
since
you're
going
to
be
in
Indianapolis
here
in
a
couple
weeks,
would
there
be
a
possibility?
We
could
invite
you
down
for
a
visit
our
community.
I
Appreciate
I
mean
Eric
Eric.
You
can
speak
to
that
for
sure,
but
I
just
want
to
refer.
You
know
we
to
have
a
program
approve
you
first
thing
we
as
we
come
and
Brew
so
we're
there
for
a
day
and
a
half
or
two
to
make
sure
that
we
have
walked
every
inch
of
the
of
the
development
blocks.
The
surrounding
neighborhood.
I
That's
in
a
that's
a
100
percent,
a
critical
part
of
every
exercise
that
we
begin.
But
but
all
that
said
I
know
Eric's
got
other
plans
to
be
account
and
you
can
speak
to
your.
J
C
C
Just
like
to
ask
that
question
so
that
the
familiarity
of
our
community
as
a
whole
is
engaged
as
we
look
at
you
know,
entertaining
you
to
participate
in
our
community
for
the
long
term
goal.
So
with
that
when
you
see
these
timelines
as
a
group,
what
kind
of
time
frames
do
you
see,
based
on
your
experience
and
examples
of
what
you
showed
you
know,
you've
got
some
experience
from
Cradle
to
grave,
so
what
kind
of
time
frame
do
we
look
for
the
life
of
this
to
be
able
to
be
move
actually
move
into
reality?.
I
A
lot
for
a
procurement
process
developer
agent
process
to
to
be
anywhere
from
nine,
certainly
nine
months
sure
could
be
a
little
more
I.
Think
under
nine
months
tends
to
be
fast
and
that's
because
there
are
municipal
boards.
There's
governance,
they're
here,
public
hearings,
there's
due
diligence
I
think
also
because
we
want
to.
We
want
to
make
sure
we've
given
developers
enough
time
to
respond
thoughtfully
to
a
solicitation,
to
do
the
work
and
require
D
great
set
of
ideas.
I
And
then
not
least,
you
know
of
that
9
to
12
months
six
months
to
negotiate.
Definitive
documents
does
not
strike
me
as
unusual
because
there's
hard
work,
whether
it's
a
purchase
and
sale
or
maybe,
if
we're
conveying,
see
simple
land
or
if
it's
a
rallies,
that's
just
one
of
the
documents,
but
if
there
are
public,
if
there's
any
public
benefit
involved,
you
know
if
we're
negotiating
tax
increments
for
negotiating
a
pilot
or
any
kind
of
tax
credit.
I
Those
tend
to
just
you
know,
add
add
layers
of
complexity
and
time
so
to
my
thinking.
Nine
ten
months
would
not
be
unusual
to
have
a
transaction,
and
at
that
point,
once
the
developer
is
selected,
we're
going
into
a
pre-development
period
where
they're
doing
their
somatic
or
design
development
their
production
drives
before
they
actually
close
on
land
and
depending
on
the
size
and
the
complexity
of
the
phase.
C
Yeah,
well,
that's
your
question,
sir
well
I
think
I
may
have
misstated
how
I
was
asking
when
I
say
Cradle
to
Graves,
to
the
time
we
actually
see
from
a
transactional
standpoint
where
something
would
where
a
it
would
be
able
to
be
occupiable.
Take
care
of
the
needs
that
we've
identified
as
a
community
and
actually
be
able
to
be
utilized.
I
mean
this
is
the
first
step
in
a
link
in
a
lengthy
ceremoniously,
wonderful
thing
for
our
community.
I
G
I
E
So
that's
going
to
be
on
a
faster
track
because
we're
through
some
of
that
already
so
even
if
we're
able
to
propose
something
to
actually
already
see,
maybe
later
this
summer
again
to
the
fall,
you
know
how
quickly
can
that
developer
get
organized
with
they're
doing
in
some
of
those
cases
it's
multi-family,
sometimes
it's
single
family,
sometimes
at
the
Town
Homes.
You
know
when
you
have
a
product
like
a
town
home,
it's
going
to
go
faster.
If
you
have
a
product
like
single
family,
it's
going
to
go
faster
than
smaller
multi-use.
E
E
So
as
Todd
talks
about
three
or
four
years,
it
can
feel
probably
a
little
bit
scary
at
times,
but
the
reality
is
if
we
can
get
some
of
them
going
earlier
with
construction
happening,
starting
even
in
2024,
then
we're
starting
to
see
that
parallel
with
the
infrastructure
projects
happening
in
construction
at
Phase,
One
East
and
then,
as
we
get
developers
on
board,
getting
them
starting
construction,
24
and
then
several
years
of
construction.
After
that,
no.
C
Years
for
us
to
get
this
opportunity
want
to
make
sure
we
do
it
right
for
the
next
hundred
years,
which
brings
me
to
the
next
question
on
timeline.
When
we
looked
at
what
kind
of
expectations
do
you
guys
see
as
developer,
because
clearly
you
have
the
financial
end
pay
taking
care
of
in
regards
to
what
you
see
giving
you're
in
the
financial
capital
of
the
world?
C
How
we
see
the
expectations
the
developers
look
at,
as
Deb
indicated
on
eight
nine
and
ten
we're
later
on
we're
looking
to
cons
of
this
meeting,
we're
looking
to
consider
a
infrastructure
project
to
go
ahead
and
set
the
Baseline
goals
that
we
have
infrastructure
wise.
So
when
you
see
these
development
projects
moving
forward
and
we're
bringing
something
to
potential
developers,
Financial
that
we've
already
identified,
how
does
that
play
in?
Because
we've
spent
a
significant
amount
of
time
in
the
administration
identifying?
What
we
need
in
engineering
does
that
play
in
or
does
that
create
Roblox.
I
Increment
some
kind
of
a
stroke
and
make
this
more
financiable
I
think
that's
that's
an
enormous
body
of
work
that
you've
already
accomplished
where
we've
done
the
master
plan
scored
a
clear
and
coherent
Vision.
That
developers
can
hopefully
neatly
slot
into
so
my
hope
is
that
that
accelerates
the
time
frame,
particularly
for
the
first
days.
The
second
and
third
phases
will
be
easier
because
by
then
there
will
already
be
some.
Hopefully
some
Market
feedback
developer
World,
though
I've
seen
it
from
the
first
days,
but
I
think
I.
Think
first
Sean
should
develop.
J
Frame
we'll
have
to
see
I
would
Advantage
about
it.
I
think
we
should
acknowledge
that
we're
in
unique
times
in
terms
of
capital
markets
and
the
ability
to
finance
that
we
haven't
seen
in
some
time,
and
it's.
H
J
J
Add
some
wrinkles
to
this.
You
know
we
all
just
needs
to
be
I'm
doing
a
project
in
Fort,
Worth,
Texas
right
now
very
compelling
project.
H
J
Are
some
tough
conversations
going
on
around
their
ability
to
finance
the
program
they
want
there
and
that
that
may
be
the
case
here,
but
I
think
it's
all
the
more
reason
to
to
go
out
to
Broad
pool
of
national
investing
black
folks
who
know
how
to
do
that.
D
I
Add
I'm
glad
you
raised
that
Eric,
it's
also
kind
of
Market
by
market,
the
Pittsburgh,
the
office
Market,
is
kind
of
in
the
tank
right
now
you
know,
utilization
in
downtown
office
is
traveling
at
40
percent
right
same
time.
The
residential
work
is
actually
quite
strong
up
and
there
are
folks
you
know
there
are
new.
There's
new
construction
going
on
in
the
Market
at
that
rents
that
are
set
are
setting
high
water
marks
in.
H
H
K
H
I
C
Two
quick,
two
other
quick
questions
in
regards
to
you
struck
a
chord
with
me
in
regards
to
micro
grids
and
infrastructure
costs,
sharing
to
keep
low
cost
the
cost
lowest
for
long
term.
How
do
you
see
those
from
an
as
you
look
at
this
overall
picture?
How
any
of
that
would
tie
in.
C
Microgrid,
basically,
public
infrastructure
that
helps
reduce
long-term
expenses
for
residents
and
businesses
that
are
there.
So
we
can
keep
our
their
cost
structure
down,
so
it's
more
attractive,
long
term
to
continue
to
stay
instead
of
so.
I
The
incentive
should
be
a
database
for
solar
and
sometimes
sometimes
a
bar
or
perhaps
thickest
through
the
Federalists
governments,
much
more
so
than
microgrid
technology
or
say,
for
example,
geothermal,
where
I
have
not
seen
as
many
of
those
transactions
at
a
commercial
scale
take
off
yet
so
so
again,
I
think
our
first,
the
first,
the
low-hanging
approved
conversations
I
think
we
want
to
advance
or
probably
around
around
solar.
Maybe
when,
depending
on
you
know,
land
availability,
I
think
the
others
are
are
still
approved.
With
what
I've
seen
more.
J
Go
through
an
RFI
first,
not
an
overly
prescriptive
RFP,
which
you
see
a
lot
of
people
jump
straight
to.
And
we
fully
support
that
that
sort
of
exploratory
RFI
process
where
it
provides
the
opportunity
to
get
real
feedback
from
the
developing
community.
From
the
folks
who
who
are
going
to
provide.
J
Provide
make
how
you
can
tradition
to
make
this
as
attractive
and
viable,
viable,
Parker
and
so
I
think
the
engagement
with
the
developing
Community
is
going
to
share.
J
I
To
and
100
100
I
think
that
the
the
plaza
is
the
is
the
Jewel
of
the
crowd
and
is
the
thing
that
will
continue
and
activate
this.
This
District
over
event
over
many
years,
I
think
that,
what's
what
I,
what
I
would
imagine
ultimately,
what
happened
is
that
I
could
imagine
the
plaza
actually
being
conveyed
from
the
city
to
a
Property,
Owners
Association,
the
rich.
You
are
one
member
and
they're
multiple
Developers.
I
I
Nor
do
I
think
that
would
be
and
I
think
the
magic
is
just
establishing
the
level
and
the
level
of
activation
and
programming
figuring
out.
That
budget
is
and
then
you
know,
negotiating
a
fair
allocation
of
those
charges
across
the
multiple
developers
in
this
District
and
that's
that's.
That
would
essentially
be
what
we
see
in
in
park.
I
Big,
for
example,
is
that
the
you
know
all
those
office
tenants
who
surround
34th,
Street,
Bryant
Park
benefit
from
and
derive
value
on
their
upper
floors
from
the
presence
of
that
Park
and
they
pay
in
a
common
area
maintenance
charge
into
that
into
that
business.
Improvement
District
did
I
answer
your
question,
sir.
A
B
Was
interested
in
going
back
time,
you
mentioned
the
reuse,
master
plan
and
just
interested
in
what
your
team
thinks
about
the
goals
that
are
in
there
in
terms
of
getting
out
of
the
gate
on
this
project,
which
goals
may
have
the
most
marketability
and
interest
from
the
target
audience
and
which
might
potentially
need
some
adaptation.
Given
that
that
was
released
a
couple
years
ago,
we
know
that
there's
been
Market
shift
since
then,
and
just
finally,
what
would
your
communication
mode
be?
I
Look
I'll
say
a
couple
things
on
sustainability,
even
in
the
last
10
years,
the
market
has
moved
I
think
very
substantially.
If.
H
I
Ask
some
developers
10
years
ago.
They
would
have
said
that
in
a
lot
of
markets,
Lee
silver
was
the
Baseline.
I
would
argue
that
today,
if
any
markets
lead
gold
is
the
price
of
is
the
price
of
playing
and
I.
Think
that
to
me
there
are
many
developers
who
understand
going
in
that.
You
know
lead
gold
or
legal
eligible
is
a
is
a
reasonable
and
I
think
Market
achievable
level
of
responsibility.
I
Certainly,
affordability
I
think
that
the
it's
the
Overton
window,
if
you
will,
the
the
range
of
what's
possible,
has
shifted
and
I
think
even
over
the
last
two
or
three
years
as
the
country
has
sort
of
come
out
of
what
I
will
Loosely
call
a
George
Floyd
moment
I
think
there
were
cities
across
the
country,
large
and
small,
that
have
are
Reckoning
Anew
fresh
with
what
level
of
affordability
they
provide
and
what
the
best
policy
measures
are
for
doing
that.
I
Historically,
as
you
know,
four
percent
tax
credit
building,
and
that
was
over
here
and
then
your
market
rate
was
over
here
and
I.
Think
this
is
a
policy
standpoint.
There
are
better
ways
to
go
than
if
we
could
figure
out
financing
that
can
bring
affordability
within
a
single
building
that
tends
to
just
work
better
in
the
house
for
everybody
and
I
think
that
that
is
not.
I
You
know
that
I
think
it's
increasing,
extinctional
wisdom
of
a
motorbike,
affordable
housing,
so
I
don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
get
too
far
ahead
of
myself
in
terms
of
sort
of
anticipate.
How
developers
respond
I
need
to
come
out
to
the
market.
I
need
to
walk
the
place.
I
need
to
really
study
the
materials,
but
before
I
can
sort
of
really
render
each
other
as
to
how
developers
will
respond
here.
H
E
I
So
what
we
would
normally
do
in
our
an
RFI
or
a
fresh
expressions
of
Interest
or
an
RFP
is
we
would
ask
them
very
specifically,
you
know
to
respond
to
our
strong
Mission
based
interest
and
affordability,
sustainability,
or
what
what
the
other
goals
may
be
for
the
for
the
the
project
and
take
that
market
feedback
We've
listened
and
then
we
would
bring
them
in
for
interviews
not
just
with
us,
but
with
you
of
course,
but
we
would
ask
them
those
same
questions
again.
We
would
test
them
and
ask
them.
I
You
know:
where
are
you
seeing?
How
are
you
seeing
these
issues
being
interact
and
other
projects
in
which
you're
engaged?
What
are
some
of
the
financing
or
Economic
Development
tools
they're
using
to
try
and
Achieve
these
goals?
So
it
certainly
it's
I
think
it's
it's
a
it's
transparent!
It's
happening
not
just
with
us,
but
with
you
as
well
and
B
I.
Think
it's
really
important
for
us
to
to
call
those
items
out
and
to
to
put
the
developers
to
the
test
on
those
specific
points.
I
K
A
Hutton
here,
I
just
have
one
question
to
clarify:
Todd
when
you
went
through
the
three
phases:
the
first
phase
of
missions
and
gold,
clarify
missions
and
goals,
but
in
phase
two
and
three
we
have
these
packets
and
we
have
eight
nine
and
ten
are
already
being
sort
of
semi-developed
or
looked
at,
but
we
have
lots
of
different
individual
packets
and
grouping
of
packets.
A
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
we're
not
talking
about,
and
we
talked
with
randy
about
timing
to
get
to
the
end
goal
of
occupation
that
we're
it's
not
we're,
not
assuming
that
there'll
be
one
developer
for
everything
except
eight,
nine
and
ten
that
there
may
be
multiple
phase
two
and
phase
threes
for
different
groupings
or
different
packets.
Is
that
true?
That's.
I
100
accurate
the
phases,
the
three
phases
we
are
just
out
of
our
process
for
yesterday,
but
those
who
will
function
these
try
locks
and
yeah.
We
understand
that
you've
not
been
looking
for
a
master
developer
that
you're
looking
for
potentially.
I
H
E
Conversations
with
Q3
about
contractual
language,
and
we
will,
if
there's
any
other
additional
insights,
that
you
would
like
on
the
maybe
you're
June,
the
4th
16
th,
the
fifth
meeting,
actually
June
5th.
We
will
do
a
presentation,
give
you
a
report
in
advance
and
also
contract
with
me.
We've
had
some
conversations.
Todd
asked
answered
some
questions
earlier
about
the
timing
and
how
long
these
timings
were
with
the
kind.
E
Phases
of
an
identity
identified
recognizing
there'll,
be
multiple
developers
likely.
We
are
probably
looking
at
bringing
you
a
two-year
contract
opportunity
that
allows
to
them
to
get
through
those
phases,
and
you
know
in
all
aspects
of
it,
and
so
that
is
what
we
are
looking
at
right
now.
So
with
that,
we
will
work
with
Larry
on
the
contract
side
and
bring
something
back
to
your
consideration
on
June
5th.
E
A
N
Is
that
in
some
earlier
meetings,
one
or
more
of
the
Commissioners
had
questions
about
whether
the
placement
of
security
cameras
and
what
Todd
just
referred
to
as
the
Jewel
of
the
crown
and
Hopewell
that
green
space,
whether
that
was
going
to
pose
any
legal
issues
to
consider
and
wanted
a
little
bit
of
an
overview
of
the
law
in
this
regard?
So
that's
what
I'm
going
to
do
tonight
feel
free
to
interrupt
me
at
any
point.
N
The
short
answer
is
no
and
I
will
explain
why,
when
you
look
at
private
Privacy
Law
in
this
regard,
it's
a
bit
of
an
amalgam
of
constitutional
law,
some
statutory
law,
a
bit
of
common
law
and
starting
really
with
the
Constitution
Indiana's
Constitution,
and
the
fourth
amendment
in
the
Federal
Constitution
are
the
Texas.
Virtually
identical
they're
interpreted
a
little
bit
differently,
but
they
tend
to
revolve
around
an
analysis
of
the
the
reasonableness
of
what's
happening,
but
I
need
to
unpack
that
a
little
bit
further
too.
N
The
U.S
Constitution
Fourth
Amendment
says
that
the
government,
which
is
us
right,
can't
engage
in
unreasonable
searches
or
seizures
to
have
an
unreasonable
search.
You
first
have
to
have
a
search
and
in
constitutional
law
to
have
a
search
to
even
implicate
the
Fourth
Amendment.
N
So
there's
no
physical
intrusion,
but
you
can
also
have
a
search.
If
what
is
happening
is
the
government
is
intruding
into
something
in
which
people
have
a
subjective
and
objectively
reasonable
expectation
of
privacy,
subjective
meaning
they've
tried
to
do
something
to
keep
what
they're
doing
out
of
the
public
eye
and
objectively
reasonable,
meaning
that
society's
prepared
to
say
you
know
what
yeah
that
should
be
private.
We
agree.
Okay,
the
government
should
be
able
to
take
a
look
at
that
without
getting
a
warrant.
N
Okay,
without
going
into
a
court
and
saying
hey,
we
have
probable
cause
more
likely
than
not
to
believe
a
crime
is
occurring.
For
example,
we
need
a
warrant
to
be
able
to
now
go.
Take
a
look
at
that.
So,
with
poll
cameras
like
what
we're
talking
about
right
now,
the
law
is
largely
that
there
is
no
search.
The
courts
are
split
on
this.
The
Supreme
Court
has
not
the
U.S
Supreme
Court
has
not
actually
heard
a
case
right
on
point
in
this
regard.
A
N
There
there
they
have
issued
a
few
decisions
in
that
regard,
that
expressed
some
concern
about
the
ability
to
ubiquitously
sort
of
record
word
and
get
a
mosaic
of
people's
lives
right,
because
it's
very
revealing
at
the
same
time
they
they're
being
asked
actually
now
to
take
a
case
out
of
Massachusetts
involving
pole,
camera
surveillance
different
from
the
sort
of
pole
cameras
we're
talking
about
here.
In
that
case,
it's
law
enforcement
mounting
poles
cameras
for
months
and
months
to
do
intelligence,
gathering
for
law
enforcement
purposes
right.
N
We
would
use
what
comes
of
these
recordings
if
needed,
to
address
criminal
activity.
That
case
involves
a
focused
collection
of
data,
for
you
know,
arrests,
potentially
charges
and
criminal
prosecution,
but
the
Supremes
haven't
taken
this
type
of
case,
yet
the
lower
courts,
the
lower
federal
courts
are
split
a
bit
on
this,
as
our
state
courts
looking
at
their
own
State
constitutional
language
like
we
have
in
Indiana
the
seventh
Circuit
Court
of
Appeals,
which
sits
over
Indiana
and
Illinois
and
Wisconsin
has
interpreted
the
fourth
amendment
to
say.
N
Even
in
our
own
home
I
mean
if
you're
walking
down
old,
Cobb
Boulevard
you're
going
to
be
able
to
look
straight
into
our
window
and
see
you
know
a
bunch
of
stuff
going
on
in
our
house.
We
don't
have
curtains,
you
know.
Are
we
sort
of
making
that
known
to
anyone
who
could
walk
by
and
police
are
entitled
in
law
to
be
wherever
anyone
else
is
entitled
to
be
in
society?
So
the
seventh
circuit?
So
far,
has
you
know
in
those
kinds
of
contexts
have
said
pole.
Cameras
are,
are
not
a
search.
N
They
are
not
an
intrusion
into
something
that
is
reasonably
expected
to
be
private
facts
matter,
facts
always
matter
in
these
cases
and
they
matter
in
Privacy
Law,
quite
a
bit,
because
if
you
do
take
certain
steps
to
keep
things
private,
you
build
a
really
high
super
high
fence
right.
Frankly,
even
if
you
build
that
high
fence,
the
government
can
still
fly
a
helicopter
at
400
feet
and
watch
you
growing
marijuana
in
your
backyard
and
that's
not
search
but
but
it
does
affect.
N
Some
of
these
cases
depend
how
much
people
have
done
to
try
to
preserve
their
privacy.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
right
now,
although
courts
are
expressing
some
generalized
concerns
about
surveillance,
if
you
will,
they
have
not
generally
held
pull
cameras
to
present
that
kind
of
problem.
If
it
were
a
search,
then
it
would
have
to
be
a
reasonable
search,
which
means
you
either
have
to
have
a
warrant
which
is
unworkable
in
this
kind
of
context,
or
an
exception
to
that
requirement.
N
N
How
much
is
there
a
basis
for
believing
there
was
a
concern
about
kind
of
that
area
that
prompted
the
surveillance?
To
begin
with?
It's
very
contextual,
it's
sort
of
a
gestalts
totality
of
the
circumstances,
reasonableness
test,
I,
don't
know
that
would
produce
any
different
outcome
here.
Where
what
we're
basically
saying
is
I
understand,
it
is
we're
going
to
mount
certain
cameras.
N
They
are
going
to
be
trained
on
the
public
space
they're,
certainly
not
intending
to
look
in
anyone's
window
and,
as
it
turns
out
the
technology,
and
this
technology
is
just
sort
of
getting
increasingly
granular,
but
the
technology
allows
for
blurring
of
areas
that
you
can
already
kind
of
prefab
plug
in
and
say,
okay.
So
if
our
cameras
trained
in
this
area,
but
it
might
catch
a
sliver
of
window,
we're
going
to
blur
that
or
we
can
black
it
out
all
together.
N
And
my
understanding
is
that
with
the
stuff
that
is
blacked
out,
you
never
capture
the
footage.
So
you
can't
unblur
it
and
look
at
it
with
the
blurry
stuff.
Yes,
you
can,
but
only
if
you
have
certain
permissions
to
gain
access
and
that's
where
in
most
areas
of
Privacy
Law,
you
see
a
huge
role
for
policy,
because
that's
where
you
put
your
safeguards
in
about
well
who's,
getting
access
to
these
data
for
what
purpose?
And
how
long
do
we
keep
them?
N
And
you
know
who
sees
them
and
that
kind
of
thing
the
city
does
have
a
policy
going
back
to
2017
on
cameras
and
if
you
all
haven't
seen
that
yet
I'm
happy
to
share
it
with
you
after
this,
but
basically
it
says:
Hey
security,
camera
footage,
we're
doing
it
for
Public
Safety
purposes.
N
We
will
have
various
safeguards
in
place
to
ensure
that
it's
used
only
for
that
it's
kept
30
days
unless
the
state
retention
schedules
require,
as
they
do
in
a
few
circumstances,
a
little
bit
longer
and
then
it
just
rolls
over
gets
recorded
over.
So
if
no
one
ever
needs
it
for
anything,
nothing
ever
happens
in
that
time
frame.
No
one
ever
sees
it.
So
there
is
a
policy
to
to
regulate
access.
N
There
are
a
couple
of
State
statutes
that
I'm
familiar
with
on
cameras,
but
they're
really
not
focused
on
this
kind
of
issue,
for
example,
as
private
citizens,
we
we
can't
sneak
onto
is
like
I,
can't
sneak
onto
your
yard
Deb
and
mount
a
camera
without
your
knowledge.
So
I
can
go
record
all
of
your
movements.
The
tougher
thing
has
been
what,
if
I
just
Mount
the
camera
in
my
own
yard,
but
I'm
training
it
on
your
front
door
and
it's
creepy
right
for
me
to
watch
you
coming
and
going
kind
of
thing.
N
So,
but,
but
you
know
all
this
by
way
of
saying,
I-
think
that
the
important
thing
is
to
make
sure
that
we
know
where
the
cameras
are,
that
we
are
careful
about
where
we
are
training
them
in
order
to
accomplish
what
we
are
looking
to
accomplish,
which
is
Public
Safety,
and
that
safeguards
are
in
place
to
make
sure
that
the
data
are
used
for
that
purpose
and
that
whatever
we
can
do
by
way
of
the
programming
of
them
to
minimize
the
impact
on
in
the
incidental
impact.
N
If
you
will
on
people's
privacy
that
we
do
that,
and
my
understanding
is
we
are
and
we
intend
to,
and
but
that's
certainly
something
that
we
should
keep
an
eye
on
going
forward.
Questions.
No.
That.
A
Was
wonderful
questions
sure
in
terms
of
we
have
the
private
property
and
development,
and
then
people
buy
homes
or
rent
them
or
apartments,
and
then
we
have
the
public
space,
the
green
space,
with
the
cameras
so
running
those.
Where
is
where
does
it
all
go
back
to
someone
sitting
in
a
place
and
recording
them
or
checking
to
make
sure
that
who
is
at
the
city
that
will
have
a
space,
a
technology
space
that
will
run
that
public?
The
cameras
in
that
public?
It's
the
city
and
you're.
H
N
D
G
Have
Miss
Kate
here,
Madam
Vice
President,
also
Mr
Crowley
and
Pat
East
from
the
mill,
so
I
don't
know
Beth.
If
you
have
anything
you
want
to
say
if
we
want
to
just
turn
over
to
others.
N
Fine
no
worries,
okay,
I'll
Tee,
It,
Up
and
then
Alex
also
feels
like
I
jumped
in.
So
this
resolution
is
effectively
doing
three
things.
One
is
it's
proposing
and
they're
all
centered
around,
basically
having
the
mill
be
able
to
take
the
next
steps
in
its
advancement
of
the
tech
center
project
so
and
that's
pursuant
to
the
agreement
that
the
RDC
in
the
city
entered
into
with
the
mill
back
in
January
of
this
year.
So
the
first
thing
that
this
resolution
does
is
it
proposes
some
do
all
this
may
not
be
in.
N
In
the
resolution,
but
in
my
had
the
first
thing
it
does
is,
it
proposes
some
minor
amendments
to
the
agreement
that
we
entered
into
earlier,
just
to
clarify
some
of
the
things
that
the
mill
is
doing
in
its
role
as
partner
with
the
city
and
the
RDC
to
advance
the
trades
district
and
the
tech
center
project.
So
those
amendments
are
listed
in
the
resolution
itself
and
then
also
attached
as
an
amendment
document
to
the
agreement
that
would
be
signed.
N
If
you
all
approve
this
and
they
basically
clarify
that
the
the
mill
is
an
authorized
representative
of
the
RDC
that
it's
going
to
basically
take
on
and
I'll
agreement
was
doing
this.
N
We
just
want
to
make
this
a
little
bit
clearer
that
it's,
it's
basically
leading
the
process
that
produces
the
contracts
that
are
coming
before
the
RDC
to
advance
the
tech,
center
construction
and
And
Trades
District,
ultimately,
trades
District,
you
know,
sales
of
property
and
activation
of
the
trades
district
is
so
that's
the
first
thing
that
the
resolution
does
is
actually
add
a
little
bit
of
language
in
a
few
sections
of
the
agreement.
N
The
other
two
things
it
does
are
put
more
U2
contracts
relating
to
the
tech
center
construction.
One
is
a
construction
manager,
as
advisor
agreement
with
Weddle
Brothers,
and
the
other
is
a
an
agreement
for
commissioning
services
from
applied
engineering,
Services
Inc,
which
would
be
the
lead
agent
to
ensure
help
ensure
that
the
building
comes
out
at
least
lead
silver
certified.
So
that's
in
a
nutshell.
What
the
resolution
does
I,
don't
know
if
patter
or
Alex
want
to
add
anything
to
that.
F
Yeah
I
mean
I'll,
just
I
think
you
did
a
great
job
summarizing
it,
but
I
think
the
you
know
exist
as
with
any
new
relationship
as
as
it
progresses
we
sort
of
run
into
a
situations
we're
like.
Oh,
we
should
probably
be
sure
that
everybody
understands
that
that
you
know
which,
which
portion
of
this
of
the
group
is
doing
what,
and
so
this
is
really
meant
to
try
to
paint
a
clearer
picture
of
that
both
for
the
artist
and
everybody
involved
and
so
I.
You
know
I
just
think
it's
a
slightly.
F
B
There
just
trying
to
picture
in
terms
of,
as
let's
say
the
mill
takes
on
the
competitive
bidding
and
coordination
with
RDC,
but
as
they're
the
same
comparable
expectations
for,
let's
say
public,
noticing
of
availability
of
certain
resources.
You
know
such
as
maybe
part
of
that
process
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
as
it
kind
of
filters
through
from
public
body
public
commission
to
non-profit
private.
How
does
that
transparency
continue?
Yeah.
N
That's
a
great
question
and
I
think
the
answer
is
yes.
There
is
the
ongoing
expectation
that,
as
the
Mills
helps
to
secure
various
services
that
are
going
to
be
needed
for
this
project
that
there
is
kind
of
that
they're
approaching
it
in
the
same
way
that
a
city
in
the
RDC
would,
with
respect
to
transparency,
with
respect
to
accountability
with
respect
to
competitive
bidding
where
that
is
appropriate
and
would
otherwise
be
expected.
I
think
that
happened
here
with
respect
to
the
construction
management
as
advisor
agreement.
N
So
there
was
a
group,
including
representation
from
the
RDC
that
sat
on
a
committee
that
interviewed
what
five
firms
I
think
and
they
got
competitive
bids.
Similarly,
with
the
applied
engineering,
I
think
Studio
access
provided
some
information
on
folks
out
there
who
might
be
able
to
do
lead
silver,
plus
certification
and
the
mill
went
out
and
got
bids
from
a
couple
of
those
and
reviewed
them.
So
so
yeah
I
think
the
the
expectation
is
that
there'll
be
plenty
of
transparency
and
involvement
of
the
RDC
of
Sydney
and
so
go
forward.
N
N
The
kind
of
the
rest
of
us
don't
have
and
are
able
to
kind
of
move
forward
on
this
using
that
expertise,
and
so
we've
got
we
sort
of
don't
want
to
get
in
the
way
of
that,
but
are
also
very
conscious
that
you
know
this
public
dollars
that
are
being
spent,
and
so
it's
important
to
have
that
kind
of
transparency
and
accountability
and.
F
Ben,
if
I
may
add
that
you
know,
in
particular
the
economic
development,
Administration,
Grant
building
and
the
process
of
federal
procurement,
their
rules
are
are
very,
very
significant
and
and
and
complicated.
So
so,
there's
a
there's
a
there's,
an
added
layer,
in
particular
with
that
building.
H
F
That
process
that
is
very,
very
transparent.
It's
it's,
you
know,
I
I
think
one
might
argue,
their
rules
are
tougher
than
ours.
Ours
are
pretty
tough
but
they're,
maybe
even
tougher
than.
N
M
I
give
you
a
few
details
about
how
the
ACT
process
happened,
so
we
received
for
the
construction
management
proposal.
Fortunately,
we
received
proposals
from
five
firms
to
see
two
strong
proposals
from
what
are
brothers
and
shield
Sexton
I
want
to
Bloomington
did
interviews
called
Q
A's,
and
then
our
evaluation
team
agreed
that
Walter
Brothers
was
the
Top
Choice.
M
Those
folks
included
the
the
evaluation
team
was
Jim
Pearl
from
the
BDC
Alex
Beth
Kate
and
Jeff
Underwood
from
the
city,
Ashley,
Thornberry
and
Jerry
white
from
Studio
access
and
then
John
from
the
mill
and
then
for
the
lead
commissioning
agent.
Those
folks
were
recommended
by
Studio
access
applied
engineering
and
Midwest
Associates.
Both
firms
were
really
capable
and
we
selected
applied
engineering
as
they
were
materially
less
expensive.
So
just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
like
actual
on
the
on
the
ground,
here's
what
we
actually
did
with
with
the
process.
Thank.
F
C
Quick
question
in
regards
to
applied
engineering,
since
they
are
looking
to
enter
contractually
through
the
mill
for
the
lead,
certification
and
I'm
I
know
it's
not
going
to
happen,
but
I
have
to
bring
up
the
Specter
for
whatever
reason,
due
to
our
unknown
Economic
Times,
that
the
building
didn't
get
built
will
be
a
contractual
aspect,
because
it's
for
the
lead,
certification.
N
C
N
N
F
C
C
C
F
If
I
may,
just
just
remind
the
rec
that
the
reason
we
have
the
certification
is
the
Green
Building
ordinance,
which
requires
a
city
facility,
City,
owned
and
and
built
facilities
that
maybe
League
celebrated
at
minimum,
so
so
that
that
is
the
this
is.
This
is
driven
by
ordinance
and
it's
a
a
level
of
expertise
that
allows
us
to
deliver
against
that.
That.
A
Sounds
for
sure
any
comments
from
the
public,
not
here
you're,
seeing
any
I'll
entertain
a
motion.
Please.
A
A
second
all
in
paper,
say:
hi
hi
motion
carries
unanimously,
so
the
next
resolution
is
number
2342
approval
of
construction
agreement
with
Miles
Millstone
milestone
for
Hopewell
Phase
One
East.
Who
will
speak
to
us
on
that
good.
K
Evening,
Department,
the
faithfulness
infrastructure
project
includes
construction
of
new
roadway,
sidewalks,
Luffy's
path
and
the
park
amenities.
A
city
received
two
bids
for
this
project
with
the
lowest
one
coming
from
Milestone
at
an
amount
of
13
million
373
000.
K
284.90,
and
that
amount
includes
all
three
of
the
alternates
that
were
bid
with
the
project
seeking
approval
of
the
agreement
with
Milestone
tonight
from
the
commission,
and
then
we
also
are
on
the
agenda
with
the
Board
of
Public
Works
next
week.
We
need
their
permission.
Also
project
would
start
this
summer
and
scheduled
to
be
completed
by
the
end
of
October
in
2024.
Just
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
J
E
Yeah
yeah
absolutely
so
you
may
recall
our
discussion
at
your
last
meeting
about
the
project
review
form
that
the
sources
that
were
identified
all
the
uses
for
that
entire
source
that
was
approved.
E
Sources
that
were
identified
there,
it's
a
pro
I-
think
it's
approximately
285
000,
something
like
that
that
particular
line
item,
but
this
keeps
us
on
track
for
the
phase
one
East
infrastructure
to
go
in
and
to
be
ready
for
development
to
begin,
hopefully
building
in
2024.
So
we
should
line
up
nicely.
C
A
Whatever
questions,
no
questions
for
me,
any
questions
from
the
public,
seeing
none
and
hearing
none
I
am
I'll
entertain
a
motion.
N
A
K
D
We're
trying
out
some
different
names,
so
you
might
see
some
different
names
floated
around
about
that.
We
obviously
assume
the
leases
as
part
of
the
facility.
One.
D
H
D
Lease
modification
we
just
decided
to
put
these
together
so
and
this
is
for
Sycamore
Realty.
Their
lease
originally
went
through
next
January
and
they
asked
for
early
termination.
They
in
fact
have
moved
out
of
the
building,
and
so
we
have
been
in
negotiation
with
them,
and
this
modification
would
have
a
retroactive
date
of
April
1st
2020
of
Elise
move
out,
and
they
would
just
make
sure
that
they
fully
paid
up
from
from
the
time.
B
How
does
that
early
termination
just
affect?
Overall,
you
know
kind
of
expected
revenues
compared
to
you
know
the
full.
Obviously,
at
some
point
the
city
is
moving
forward
with
the
renovation
of
the
building,
but
there
was
the
assumption
that
there
would
be
some
revenue
from
current
tenants.
So
I'm
just
wondering
how
that
impacts
that
Revenue
yeah.
B
D
Most
significant
in
terms
for
the
early
termination
now
again
we're
getting
some
value.
That's
on
top
of
what
we
had
there
I
I.
Let
me
pull
it
up
here.
I
can
tell
you
what
their
actual
rent
was.
D
G
D
D
N
C
Then
have
you
read
much
about
the
94
year
old
that
did
on
the
property
tax
aspect
to
the
Supreme
Court
yeah
public
private,
taking
based
upon
the
tax
liens?
Oh.
B
N
C
H
N
C
N
C
C
D
So
for
2023,
right
now
it's
5200
52.50
a
month
they
their
lease
went
through
the
end
of
2025
live,
so
there
is
a
more
significant
there.
It's
probably
about
a
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars,
plus
the
the
rest
of
this
year.
So,
although.
D
We
have
to
also
take
into
a
consideration.
This
is
part
of
the
risk
aggregation
aspect
of
this
is,
if
we
start
construction
on
the
site
pretty
soon.
This
is
a
relatively
large
footprint
in
the
first
floor
of
the
building,
which,
at
least
in
preliminary
designs
was
part
of
both
the
secure
police
department
and
then
also
potentially,
the
connector
going
through
to
each
side
of
the
building.
So
it
is
a
pretty
important
space
that
we
needed
to
take
some
control
over.
A
H
J
C
D
D
The
the
hope
is
there,
the
conception
is
is
that
that
would
be
open
to
not
just
the
police
department,
not
just
the
fire
department,
but
other
city
employees
as
well.
Of
course,
there
is
a
liability
release,
or
at
least
a
notice
posted.
We
have
what
is
called
a
fitness
facility
in
this
building.
It
is
a
broken
treadmill,
rowing
machine
and
an
exercise
bike
that
is
kind
of
used
at
your
own
risk
and
only
during
business
hours.
H
C
D
C
G
A
And
this
Fitness
room
right
now
it's
in
showers,
West
so-called
so
do
you
perceive
that
it
as
a
fitness
room
and
this
equipment
won't
be
used
until
the
space
is
renovated
and
therefore-
and
it's
in
the
space
that
needs
to
be
renovated.
D
Yeah
and
we
haven't
had
internal
discussions
yet
about
what
about
what
open
temporarily
you
know,
while,
while
the
design
phase
is
going,
I
mean
it's
not,
we
would
anticipate.
D
D
A
A
Because
that's
a
big
responsibility,
as
you
said,
it's
almost
you're
thinking
it's
somewhat
of
an
offset
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
loss
in
rent.
That's
a
big
chunk
of
change
and
in
replacing
it
would
be
cost
more
cost
to
us.
So
supervision
is
maybe
too
strong
a
word,
but
oversight
or
something
needs
to
be
in
rest
somewhere
in.
M
A
Good.
Thank
you.
Any
comments
from
the
public
in
the
room
not
seeing
any
can
I
have
a
a
motion
piece.
H
A
Passes
unanimously,
is
there
any
other
new
business?
We
haven't
discussed
a
reminder
to
everyone
that
the
next
RDC
meeting
is
three
weeks
away.
It's
on
the
calendar
as
Monday
June,
the
5th
and
with
that
could
I
have
a
motion
for
adjournment
absolutely
so
fast.