City of Bloomington, Indiana Redevelopment Commission, 3 Feb 2020

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All right, you guys, uh you guys ready yeah, you sure, okay, all right! It's.

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Approximately five old and I'd like to start the meeting.

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Let's start with a call to order with roll call.

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Commissioners, president, I'm don griffin since campbell larry, david wolter, cindy.

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Kaname, premature and staff president alex crowley economic, sustainable.

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Development door seams with department you like to add, as you notice, I must use.

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Controller keyboard that money is not here.

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And so we jeff will be out of the office on medical leave for about three weeks.

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And I promise this remix the royal commission meeting so we're just sending.

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Him a nice picture to say that.

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I'm sure did you say your name? Yes, promise. I promise. Okay, alright, let's.

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Have the reading of the minutes is there a motion to approve the minutes for meeting the meeting on meetings on september, the 16th 2019 so moved.

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Wait a minute, what's any temporary say, thank you, mean january of 2014. You arey.

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21St you're right I've got the wrong hello. I'm sorry! I've got my wrong notes.

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Yeah, those notes were wrong. I am so sorry guys delete those notes, see you.

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Still want to prove 24th, I did my first good there we go.

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January is there a motion to approve the minutes for january 21st 2020, so moved.

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Second, all in favor opposed none. The motion carries hi, so we've got two.

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Members we're gonna switch on and off yeah. Maybe this versus somebody sitting.

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Here, what's wrong with me, I love sitting next to you. I just don't think it's a.

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Little korean or a scooter for an add voter to sit there. What okay? I know you.

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Don't but your your input is is a paramount everything that we're doing so.

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Awesome, do you mind if we pages I'm sorry you're, fine, sir, who is also you so.

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What we have here with the audience, the community, we have two school board.

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Members, the school board gets up. It's a member of a non-voting member to be on.

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The redevelopment commission and they've gone ahead and decided to split the row.

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Right so how we're doing it? Maybe so this first one we just decided, I think.

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We had talked to us about us, but I mean both and then from here on out splitting.

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Alternates and 21 of the other parent. But if it makes sense for people.

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Possibly willing to do it all the time. I've changed some things. Okay, all right.

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So, what's there's a motion for the january 21st 2020 reading of the minutes.

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And did we have a second, we got a second all in favor I'll oppose none. The motion.

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Carries examination of claims? Is there a motion.

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To approve the claims register for january 24, 2020.

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I'll move reprieve claims. Second, all in favor I'll oppose none. The motion.

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Carries examination of payroll registers is there motion to approve the payroll register for january 17 2020, all in.

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Favor all opposed the motion carries next. We have report of officers and.

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Committees is there a director's report? No, since I have to talk to the public.

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Fair and I'll just wait to live. Is there legal report? Is there a treasurer's.

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Report, probably not no, how about a cpp update report? I think there should be.

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Well, yeah, so there's a couple things one is. I did want to talk about a change to.

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The trades district garage- I don't know if you want me to talk about that now or.

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During the general discussion at the end, go for it right now. We might as well get.

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It here, okay, so I I wanted to alert you and I will pass these around for you to.

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I'll peek over your shoulder, he did keep. Oh that's a thing, that's fine! um They.

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Should have it so what you're looking at is a revised view of the trades district.

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Garage elevations, and in particular what I want to draw your attention to is the.

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Height of the sawtooth that is lower than the last time you saw yeah there.

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Are a couple of reasons for that? One is early discussions of the of the general.

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Height and massing of the building relative to the showers building, which.

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Is right next door people were wondering whether one might.

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Kind of overshadow the other, so there was a there's, a kind of relative height.

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Question that popped up, so actually what you're, what you're seeing here is the.

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Sawtooth is at the same height now as the as the showers building next door.

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But the garage goes up beyond the the sawtooth right, so it used to be that the.

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Sawtooth would go all the way up to the height of the garage hide all of it and.

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Now, we've lowered it down to make it more at parity with the building. Next.

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Door so there's the the visual aspect of it. There's also a cost aspect, and so you.

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Know, as we've been looking at the cost of the garage and doing some value.

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Engineering on it, there is a savings associated with reducing the height of.

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This precast, the savings, are both material savings.

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But also savings related to just the installation of it, so those two benefits.

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Have motivated us to create this alternative view of the garage our plan.

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Is to take this to the plan commission, its material enough of a change that.

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We're gonna we're going to take it to the plant commission. That's scheduled.

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For a march 9th meeting today was a filing for it, so we wanted to alert you.

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Of this change have you, you know, comment on it if you'd.

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Like but just at least be aware that we were pursuing that and it hopefully you understand that it doesn't change the.

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Capacity of the garage, it doesn't change the you know the solar, the bikes all of.

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The other benefits that come with with the original resolution, but it does.

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Change the the visual a little bit on the east and west elevations. Well, it's.

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Estimated right now so the- and this is a little fluid, but roughly speaking it's a.

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Total savings of about a hundred and fifty thousand dollars of which about a.

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Hundred or related to materials and then the other forty to fifty or so with.

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Fabrication and installation commission of the final word they will have to.

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Approve it yeah, do they have the final word, though? Yes, after that, it's not, I.

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Mean most people don't perceive anything above two storeys anyway yeah. If they're.

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Walking down the street and what's behind it in the background, I think it.

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Actually looks more interesting, now well, more human scale.

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That's a term. They taught me in architecture, school, okay, all right. Thank.

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You any other questions on this and that can't that's that that concrete's, just.

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Exposed right, yes, the angle remains the same of the the the angled, the sawtooth.

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Is it the same yeah, it's all in terms of a you mean the pitch of it.

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Yeah yeah. Oh that's the same any other question. Okay! Thank you. Okay! Thank you.

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All right, so is that all we have for the cpp right now or you got anything else.

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To tell us well a couple of other updates, so, as you know, we had an event.

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To sort of announce forward, motion on the kiln and and that proposal has a.

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Number of things ahead of it, one of which is, is the historic preservation.

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Process so we're we are looking at a introductory meeting of february 13th.

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For that and then the skoda, formal reviews in the next couple of meetings.

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Afterwards, it's a bit of a change to the way the building currently looks. So I.

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Think we want to get with them early and talk them through what what the plan is.

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So that's ahead of us for the kiln, the administration building the listing was.

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Opened and then closed, and so we have a bunch of different proposals or.

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Evaluating those- and we will come to you with our recommendation, for which one we.

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Believe makes the most sense, which, which should happen. My guess, is within the.

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Next 30 or so days and then finally, the the the land and and the and the making.

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That land available, one of the things that we're figuring out is that.

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Especially in the cases of developers who want to do smaller buildings, it's a.

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Little bit hard for them to wrap their brain around wide open. We made the judgment that we just didn't want to subdivide it just to.

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Allow for the greatest amount of flexibility, but I think the downside of that is it's hard for someone who wants to put a relatively smaller building to.

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Say I don't even know where I should put that you know where it's possible to do.

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That so we are working right now on a we're calling a sales plat process where.

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We're kind of not officially replanting it, but we're overlaying kind of a.

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Subdivision view of what what what that might look like if we broke it up and.

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We'll use that as a way to simplify the evaluation and hopefully the transaction.

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Process or anybody interested in this any of those lots, so I'm visualizing.

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Agreed and depending on how big someone wants the building, they can have one.

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Grid or one box or two box yeah, that's right, okay and you know, and where those.

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Might be you know, so is there? Is there a part of the area that might be better.

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Suited to have smaller buildings, like maybe the frontage on 10th street, might.

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Be a good place or the frontage on maker way, or you know so, just working out.

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Where we want to try to guide people and and there's some interest in smaller.

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Development there, so so that's you know part of what we want to see happen as.

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Well, we don't want just four big buildings or three build will be buildings necessarily.

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That's it refresh my memory: what's the height maximum mom means district.

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I believe it's I have to go check that I believe it's four. It may be different on.

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The west side of rogers, but I think it's four okay, thank you.

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Okay, any other question all right: let's, uh let's move on to new business. Thank.

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You for your report, ladies and gentlemen, all right.

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The next item of business is resolution: 20-0, six approval of the cdbg allocation.

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Recommendations, this is a public hearing, so we'll be opening up as a public.

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Hearing for the allocation of recommendations of our community.

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Development block grant for fiscal year, our next fiscal year, 2020 included in.

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Your packet is the resolution for a new member of the redevelopment commission.

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So the city of bloomington is eligible to receive funding from the department.

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Of housing and urban development for under the community development block.

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Grant program at our cdbg program right now we don't know how much funding we.

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Will be allocated so we use an estimate. The estimate number that we're using for.

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This fiscal year's $800,000, 15 percent of the grant can be used to fund social.

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Service agencies, 20 percent of the grant, can be used. Offense admin calls to.

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Administer the grant and the balance 65 percent can be used for what we call.

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Physical improvement projects, lota street projects and housing projects of.

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The eight hundred thousand dollars that we hope to allocate five hundred twenty.

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Thousand of it would be used for physical improvement projects, $120,000.

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For social service funding of age, social service agencies and $160,000 for.

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Administration cost the citizens advisory committee met last month in.

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January to review the proposals that were submitted for.

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Funding and make their allocation recommendations which are included in.

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The packet for you for review. We always have two members of this body who sits.

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On the allocation process to provide any input that they may feel, one of the.

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Members, who is eric saris, who was part of the physical improvements.

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Subcommittee as you're seeing mr. sam listens not here tonight, but he did send.

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Us a statement- and I think he included all the members of his what he wanted to.

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Say about being part of the process and forced to read in the record, so I'm.

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Going to read his response in the record and then the other member was dave while.

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Turd dave said on the social service committee, so, if dave has any input after.

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I read this, it says I would like to confirm this is from account for.

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Commissioner, eric sanders, I would like to confirm in this email that, as the rdc.

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Is represented on the fiscal improvement subcommittee of the cdbg citizens.

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Advisory committee, I concur that the proposed grants see.

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Agenda resolution 2006 exhibit they represent worthy causes and that they.

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Reflect accurately the subcommittee's deliberations as it sought to allocate.

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Available funds as fairly and widely as possible. I will add that there's a.

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Possibility that once we know our final allocations that we may receive more are.

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Less than the $800,000, so what you see is language that each of the committee.

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Has proposed that what we should do in case we receive overage or under edge of.

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What we estimate to be allocated through the respective subcommittees and I'll be.

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Happy to answer any questions you may have as well.

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Responds through the recommendations and allocations and what we have here in.

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Exhibit b is what the committee approved moving forward with and along with that.

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Is a note down here at the bottom is to how to distribute funds? If we give more.

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Or less funding than what we expect? That's a good question: how many groups.

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Apply, I'm guessing that all the all the agencies that applied didn't receive.

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Funding, or did everyone that applied, we receive funding, so everyone on the.

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Physical improvement side, because you, what you see here is everyone who apply.

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And the dollar amount that they request, that they received some form of funding.

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However, the social service agencies, I think, all except one agency, I'm sorry.

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Except two agencies receive funding.

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There's an application process. Those who submit applications are completely.

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Filled out and have the right attachments and stuff that considered so.

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We had on social service what seven applicants and five receive funding.

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It's a part of that is that when we look at funding it takes a certain dollar.

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Amount making worthwhile and run it through. You know we could just give them.

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$2,000, but that's really not enough to make an impact on the agency and it's.

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More difficult to keep track of that money internally as well. You know, while.

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I'm in it, I should probably just combine these resolutions 20-6. They approval of.

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The cd bg allocation recommendations as well as resolution 20 0-7 approval of.

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The bc tm addendum, oh no, never mind, I'm sorry! I got our favorite. I noticed we.

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Were doing the physical and uh social service? Okay, but you're already here are.

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The one thing one resin option: yeah my dad. Could you talk a little more about.

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The ba accessibility upgrades I'm glad to see that they're sure. So what what.

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They will actually be doing this, provide accessibility, ramps up into their own.

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Units that for their seniors any particular neighborhoods that are gonna.

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From that well up in the bulleted housing authorities order being the what.

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They call their croissant neighborhood, so it would be up near west 12th.

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Straight west, you know, west 11th was force to where they have their in hazard.

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At the within the housing authority complex, thank you any questions in.

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Regards to resolution 20-0 six from the public, so I would just add: I'm dad once.

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You approve your recommendations, they have already went to the mayor. Then they.

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Will be for to the city council for final consideration and then once the.

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City council votes and approves them, then we will prepare our application to.

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Submit to her on favor I'll oppose none. The motion carries the next item of.

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Business is resolution 20-0 seven approval of the bc tem addendum is there.

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Anyone that wants to speak in regards to this, not unless you're gonna, be quick.

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You could just I'm teasing, please.

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Yes, this is a quick. This is indian. Art concludes includes our public portion of.

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The redevelopment to issue all right now resolution. Thank you. I am paul mcdevitt.

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I'm the director of the parks, recreation department and I'm here this evening, a.

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Little late, but in advance of just for some background for redevelopment.

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Commission the city owns the buskirk german theater and we have since 2001.

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And at that time, going back in our history, we entered into a partnership.

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Agreement with what we called the bus coach, I'm a senior management so in.

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Essence, they run the theater and we own it. They do get some financial support.

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From the city 55,000, it's in the council office depending upon the parks budget.

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Year by year of whether we have some funds and we can put towards the.

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Maintenance of the building and then the development commission has earmarked.

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Over the past, seven years has been a consistent. Seventy four thousand dollars.

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For any maintenance that is falls under redevelopment definition, that is an.

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Improvement and has an economic impact in the community. So from time to time, we.

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Have to come to the redevelopment commission for those requests, so this is.

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All outlined in about a 14 page partnership agreement that we I make the.

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Rounds every year with the parks or attended redevelopment, commission and.

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Public works and we've been following that time track very well for all this.

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Year since 2001, but in 2019 it was kind of this year for the parks department.

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And then bct and.

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Resign, your position, so the board has been very, very busy trying to find her.

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Replacement, so we just kind of got out of sequencing really come in at a time.

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So at legal suggestion we are bringing tea this evening. The first amendment to.

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The partnership agreement- and it just allows us to keep the 2019 partnership.

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Agreement intact until I come back next month with the 2020 partnership.

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Agreement, so it's business as normal. We are working the city to my should.

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Tell you there's an internal city team, a couple people from the parks department.

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Alex riley sean starwood's, mary, katherine carmichael, larry, the.

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Controller that we need internally and get all of our ducks and broken.

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Partnership agreement and then we'll be meeting with d6 and levantine and doing.

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The final, so I'm here this evening, just to get.

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Your approval to keep us in working with the 2019 any questions in regards to.

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Resolution 20 0 7 from the public, no ok, 2020 agreement be retroactive to.

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January 1, or will it take up on march 2nd we probably have an effective the.

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Execution date, whenever it's executed, so you'll notice from the extension.

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Agreement, the extension is until march 1st, or until replaced by a new agreement.

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So that, if that new agreement will start that day, if for some reason, we look at.

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The operational funds that were allocated by city council and the parks.

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Department and there was a need for those allocation funds to be retroactive.

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To february or january, for instance, there wasn't sufficient funds in the.

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2019 agreement to cover those we would consider making that retroactive, but we.

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Wouldn't we had advised me were the $74,000 number came from. Has that just.

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Been historical number or just based on anything in general, as far as I know,.

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It's just been a historical number that was dedicated. I think it shifted around.

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From early days in the partnership, all it may have a better as far as my.

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Several years and we haven't always used it just think that definition is so.

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Tight that it always, it hasn't, been used.

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Are there any significant changes to the agreement that are anticipated or is it.

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Anticipated to be pretty similar to what's in place now pretty similar.

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However, and share since 2001 parks has been the the manager of partnership.

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Agreement and we have been in conversation with alex's department to.

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Have what my responsibility has been all these years? Have it shipped to alex and.

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Then also in the partnership agreement, we have a liaison staff. Member from the.

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City on the dc tm board, and for many years it's been the recreation services.

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Division director for the parks department and we would shift that.

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Responsibility to shaun starwood's it just the work of the theater is more in.

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Line with what alex's department does and shaun's were parks, we are very.

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Focused on the building the structure itself, the maintenance part of it- and we.

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Will continue to do that through dave williams and operations, division.

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Director, but just looking at the big picture, this just made better sense to us after all of these years. In fact, all these.

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Years, it's not unusual that things have sort of shifted and changed other than I.

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Talked about our nbc tm is aware that we're having these conversations in.

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These thoughts, so we actually learned from the mill structure, which was really.

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Built on the lessons we had from the bct and and one of the nice things about the.

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Way, it's set up with mill, it's pretty pretty clear-cut. You have there's a.

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Landlord function and then there's a sort of everything else function and so.

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I think we're trying to replicate that a little bit the bct, it's that there are a.

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Lot of landlord related issues that pop up those guys, the parks is best to deal.

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With that they deal with it all the time, but how the bct fits into the larger.

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Arts and culture landscape. What are the interdependencies it has with other.

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Organizations, all of that seems to fit maybe a little bit better under shan and.

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In our department, because because they, you know, we have a little bit more of a.

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Holistic view of what that landscape looks like any more questions.

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We are motion, I move approval resolution 20 a second.

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All in favor 5 all opposed and the motion carries.

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Last item of business is resolution: 20 0 8. Thank you so much by the way. So.

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Should the resolution been over 20 0 7, I'm sorry.

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2007 apples looking forward, I did yes, I even move adoption 20. Oh seven. Second,.

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All in favor aye all opposed, not the motion carries. You know.

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Someone's looking at tv today, they're gonna think like this is the first time.

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We've ever done the way in that cute that new redevelopment commission, yeah.

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They'll get it together one day, all right, so last item of business is.

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Resolution 20 to 0-8 approval of notice of offering for the.

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Rdc property: this is for 1730 stuff, walnut street, formerly known as night.

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Moves property: this is a afraid for the redevelopment commission, which owns.

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That real estate to offer it for sale, as you know, last year, is we put out an rfi.

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To get proposals for developers for development of that property we received.

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Nine proposals we whittled that down and invite it for those proposals to provide.

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Presentations and we are actually doing a deeper dive into those.

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Proposals, but in order to work with any developer and developing that property.

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Into affordable housing, the property has to be offered for sale, and so that's.

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What you have before you is the notice to sell that real estate, so the rtc.

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Purchased this property as part of its redevelopment plan to redevelop the area.

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Around switch art park, this is right at the entrance walnut street entrance of.

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Switch art park: this is the legal process that the rtc has to follow. So.

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First, we obtained two independent appraisals of the property, the amount.

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That's offered in the notice of the offering is the average of those two.

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Appraisals and this will be published in the herald times on two consecutive.

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Weeks beginning this thursday, if approved by the rbc, it would be.

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Published this thursday and then the following thursday, and then we would.

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Call a special meeting of the rtc, the thursday after that, which is february.

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20Th, I believe, to open any kind of formal offers that we get for the part.

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Of land there's actually two parcels included in this, this patch of land, that.

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Has the same address and that we would consider those proposals against what we.

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Were looking for again, it's also kind of some of the ideas that have been sucked.

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Out by the rfi to kind of give us a sense, you'll see that the rfi and the.

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Offering is kind of similar in terms of we learned some things for the rfi, that.

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Was the purpose of it and then he included those in the notice of offering.

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And so we can evaluate those proposals formally following february 20th in.

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Order to accept any proposal, the minimum amount that the rtc can accept on.

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February 20th is the average of the two appraisals, otherwise we will have to.

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Wait 30 days and then after that 30 days we can negotiate to any price. That's.

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Acceptable to those commissions.

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Hey, what is that brights, I'm looking for it? This is in here.

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Oh, I see, 677 is the average of the two prisoners: okay, but we pay for it. 850 850.

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Their memory, I think it was 800- is the number that I have in my mind, but I can.

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Recall yeah, it's 800, something wasn't it, but I think.

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If I can recall with one of the appraisals, is that it is started to.

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Deteriorate since it's been vacant the last 30 days, I'm just telling you what I.

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Read what do you think? Do you think it's a period that what I'm talking him cuz.

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He designed it lock and secure in the heat on yes, okay, okay, because there's a.

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Sprinkler system in there you don't want to freeze up that was the utilities.

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Still long, I don't think the utilities are on. It's been winterized, though right.

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Well, probably not because we just want to tear it down right yeah, so I don't.

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Think we have any utilities on in the building, so it was dark. You know what.

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That is that's still kind of low for one and a half acres, but that's okay. You got.

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All right so 800,000 800,000 the development standards on the the notice.

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Of real estate for sale, so is it only for portable housing or are all these.

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Other purposes that was something that was amended. Oh those, let's say actually.

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On the original notice, I think there were four.

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General purposes and I and I apologize if that made it into the packet, what.

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That's been amended to is to reflect the for development standards that are on.

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The the offering sheet, if he goes up to the offering she has development.

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Standards where it talks about unit size and tenure, affordability record those.

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Are should have been mirrored in the notice and there was just a disconnect.

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There about the ones we were using, so those are now beard in the notice. So the.

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Notice that would be published would have those four requirements, as opposed to what's currently active, to include the correct notice. A real estate for.

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Sale so as amended as corrected. Yes, thank you and strike these abcd dip.

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Somewhere else, yeah from if you turn to the offering.

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Sheet which is exhibit b- and you can see those abc and d that are listed there.

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Those are the same ones that will be put on the real estate.

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Notice for sale.

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Thank you for clarity, david computer range today, and that was my question as.

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Well, so thank you for clarifying any questions from the public in regards to.

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Resolution 20 0-8, none any more questions in regards to this resolution.

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From redevelopment commissioners resolution 20, 0 8 that's corrected as.

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Corrected second, all in favor aye all opposed none. The motion carries I just.

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Want to remind everybody, as we stated earlier, that we will be opening these.

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Bids on february 20th at 5:00 p.m. so we will send you the notice, but if you can.

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Mark your calendars, we would appreciate it. We try to coordinate that with. It is.

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The date of the state of the city, which many of you will be interested in this.

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Will not conflict with the state of the city, of course, you'll be free to attend.

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Though, if we don't have any new business like ted during the meeting, just just.

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One didn't know not new business, but sue asked earlier about the height standards.

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In the tracer straight games, although typically the high standards for the.

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Downtown core overlays 40 feet in the trades district has a special overlay, a.

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Technology park overlay where the height maximum is 35 feet. Thank you.

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All right meeting adjourned you.

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