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B
All
right,
mr
chairman,
we
have
lance
davison
and
michael
andrews
here
tonight
to
give
a
presentation
about
the
city
of
trees,
challenge
and
talk
about
the
importance
of
tree
canopies
in
boise.
So
I
think
with
that
I'll
kick
her
over
to
lance
and
then
I
think
after
he
introduces
himself.
He
wanted
to
kind
of
kick
it
over
to
us
for
a
round
of
introduction.
So
he
knows
who
he's
speaking
to
sounds.
C
C
B
Okay,
we
should
be
lance,
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
kind
of
kick
it
off,
introduce
yourself
and
the
topic,
and
we
can
kind
of
send
it
around
for
introductions.
D
E
Yeah,
sorry,
I
I
couldn't
hear
anything
up
until
I
just
heard
james
talk,
so
you
ready
for
me
to
kick
into
it.
You
bet
all
right.
D
E
Thank
you
all
for
inviting
me
today.
I
got
a
chance
to
talk
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
a
little
while
ago,
and
that
was
a
great
conversation
and
our
goal
today
here
is
just
to
have
a
conversation.
I'm
going
to
share
a
little
bit
about
the
work
we
do
with
the
city
and
the
perspectives
that
we've
seen.
But
really
it
is
an
open
dialogue.
E
So
the
first
thing
I
wanted
to
do
is
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
brief
chat
we'll
have
today
and
what
I'm
going
to
run
through
and
then
we'll
get
into
introductions.
So
I
can
get
to
know
all
of
you.
So
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
public
and
private
partnerships
that
we've
developed
here
in
boise
and
all
across
the
treasure
valley
that
are
having
an
impact
and
then
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
perspective
of
the
living
infrastructure.
E
That
city
of
boise
particularly,
is
doing
a
great
job
of
building
the
benefits
that
that
bring
not
only
for
the
environment
but
also
for
community
health
and
well-being,
and
then
we'll
talk
a
bit
about
your
design
review
process
and
how
important
that
is
in
looking
at
what
is
happening
today
and
how
that
creates
a
really
resilient
city
for
all
into
the
future
and
then
have
a
bit
of
a
conversation
with
you
all.
So
that's
what
we'll
do
in
this
quick
presentation
a
little
bit
about
me.
E
E
I
am
owner
and
principal
consultant
for
the
keystone
concept
and
we
do
work
all
across
the
country
and
oh
all,
kinds
of
stuff
environment,
community
engagement
planning
and
then
we
also
started
a
non-profit
called
the
treasure
valley,
canopy
network,
which
is
a
public
private
partnership
that
started
in
about
2011.
When
I
came
here
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
and
the
impact
we've
had
in
partnership
with
you
over
the
years
and
then
I
have
a
really
diverse
background.
E
E
So
let's
go
ahead
and
do
a
quick
round
of
introductions
of
you
all
and
I
think
maybe
casey.
If
you
want
to
start
with
staff
and
then
and
then
we
could
go
around
to
the
to
the
council
members.
F
Yes,
so
casey-
and
we
talked
about
this-
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
today,
so
design
review,
planner,
caitlin
manooge
is
on
here
as
well
as
another
design,
review,
planner
and
then
you've
met
and
talked
with
josh.
Who
is
our
manager.
E
Excellent
and
then
mike
andrews,
your
city,
forester,
is
here
and
I
think
he
might
have
to
go
here
in
a
little
bit.
So
if
we
have
questions
for
mike,
we
can
get
those
up
front
mike
works
in
the
parks
department
and
runs
the
community
forestry
division,
and
we
work
really
closely
with
several
departments
but
especially
close
with
the
parks
department
and
mike.
So
maybe,
let's
go
around
from
here.
Thank
you,
casey
and
who's
in
council
chambers.
As
far
as
committee
members.
C
I
guess
I
could
kick
it
off
jim
marsh,
I'm
a
architect
and
principal
with
cchp,
architects
and
idaho
native
and
lived
here
in
boise
since
97
or
so
so
pleasure.
G
Lance
I'm
bob
towelboy.
I
am
an
attorney
here
in
town
like
jim.
I
am
a
idaho
native
and
I've
had
family
here
and
my
wife's
family
here
for
a
few
generations
back
to
homesteader
days
and
I've
been
on
the
committee.
I
think
for
two
terms
and
so
I've
enjoyed
it.
G
E
Great-
and
it
looks
like
some
of
you
are
in
council
chambers-
some
are
in
offices
and
things
so
excellent.
Thanks
bob
how.
H
D
H
H
I've
served
on
the
design
review
committee
for
a
number
of
years,
as
well
as
other
committees
at
the
city
and
enjoy
that
I'm
a
born
and
raised
third
generation
basque
here
in
in
boise.
So
I'm
a
long-term
native.
E
Great
thank
you
tom.
How
about
ben
yeah.
I
Ben
semple,
I
might
look
like
I'm
in
chambers,
but
that's
just
my
virtual
background,
because
there's
just
more
paper
behind
me
in
my
office,
a
local
landscape
architect
here
in
boise,
I've
actually
worked
with
mike
andrews
with
the
forestry
department
on
a
couple
different
things
on
some
projects:
saving
some
trees
and
right
away,
just
coordinating
with
them
to
make
sure
that
some
of
the
mature
vegetation
remains
on
some
of
the
projects
that
I
work
on.
I
I'm
the
only
landscape
architect
on
the
committee
right
now,
so
I
tend
to
look
a
little
bit
closer
at
the
landscaping,
stuff
and
site
design
versus.
I
leave
the
architecture
to
the
architects,
because
they're
they're
better
at
that
than
I
am
for
sure,
and
although
I
wasn't
born
here,
I've
lived
here
for
30
years
and
raised
both
my
kids
here.
My
youngest
is
about
to
graduate
from
boise
high.
So
oh
wow
pleasure.
J
J
And
I
I'm
an
idaho
native
and
grew
up
in
southeastern
idaho
and
went
to
school
in
northern
idaho,
so
we're
familiar
with
a
lot
of
parts
of
the
state,
but
here
called
boise
home
for
quite
a
few
years.
E
E
E
Were
the
problem
solvers
that
you
want
to
come
when
you
need
to
take
a
tree
down
or
when
you
need
to
plan
for
the
right
trees
in
the
right
place
for
the
right
reason,
and
so
just
a
few
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
right
now
we
have
an
urban
heat
study
that
we
did
with
portland
state
university.
That's
this
map
here
in
the
middle,
and
we
worked
with
the
climate
division
to
create
this
into
a
story
map
that
you
guys
can
see
online.
E
You
see
heart
of
timber's
hat
logo
on
a
table
that
we
made
and
if
you're
interested
in
that
table,
let
me
know
because
we
have
it
for
sale,
and
it's
really
a
lot
of
fun
to
tell
that
story
and
find
a
way
to
have
sustainable
use
of
these
products
as
the
trees
come
down.
So
we're
focused
on
full
circle,
urban
forestry,
creative
solutions
and
we're
having
a
ton
of
fun
doing
it
and,
I
think,
having
an
impact
across
the
valley.
E
This
is
a
little
bit
about
that
urban
heat
map
that
we
created
and
focusing
on
climate.
As
you
know,
the
mayor's
very
focused
on
climate
and
how
we
can
impact
that,
through
our
activities
through
the
planning
and
design
planning
and
zoning,
and
we
that
heat
map
that
we
create
is
really
impactful
to
help.
You
understand
where
the
urban
heat
is.
E
How
can
we
do
things
like
plant
trees
in
parks
and
parking
lots
to
reduce
vehicle
emissions
and
reduce
urban
heat,
and
this
is
a
project
with
portland
state
university
that
includes
seven
other
cities,
and
we
are
going
to
both
use
that
urban
heat
data.
We
have
air
quality
data,
also
real
time
being
monitored
in,
I
think
13
different
locations
across
the
treasure
valley
and
then
we're
also
looking
at
infant
birth
weights
to
tie
it
all
to
human
health.
E
So
we're
really
aggressive
at
being
kind
of
on
the
cutting
edge
of
bringing
research
resources
into
the
treasure
valley
to
help
all
of
you.
This
is
the
city
of
trees,
challenge
lodge
last
year
on
arbor
day
the
vision
of
council
president
clegg,
and
it's
been
a
ton
of
fun
for
the
forestry
department.
We
have
public
works,
the
climate
division
involved
planning
and
developments
involved,
and
this
last
fall.
The
boise
farmers
market
helped
us
distribute
500
trees
to
residents
across
the
city.
I'd
encourage
you
to
look
at
our
impact
report.
E
From
the
first
year,
we
planted
two
thousand
trees,
which
is
a
long
way
from
a
hundred
thousand,
but
this
year
we're
launching
partnerships
with
nurseries
to
get
those
trees
counted
and
we're
really
focused
on
planting
the
right
trees
in
the
right
place
for
the
right
reason,
not
just
giving
away
a
bunch
of
little
trees
that
are
going
to
die
anyway.
E
Now
talk
a
little
bit
about
infrastructure.
I
feel
a
little
bit
about
this.
This
is
picking
on
city
a
star
and
a
tour
we
did
about
six
years
ago
with
the
health
department.
You
can
see
our
new
ada
county
commissioner
in
there
and
vitruvian
planning
does
a
lot
of
these
walkability
tours,
and
it
was
really
great
to
walk
through
this
city
that
has
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
evolve
and
change.
The
way
that
their
downtown
is
basically
a
pass-through
for
the
highway
and
start
looking
at
how
we
can
build
more
walkable
livable
streets.
E
And
then
you
look
at
what
boise
has
been
able
to
do
in
the
live
district?
I
don't
know
if
you
still
call
it
that
the
broad
area
with
partnerships
between
achd
and
the
city
develop
functional
landscapes
that
actually
process
storm
water.
You
can
get
credit
in
your
stormwater
permits
for
that.
More
people
want
to
walk
and
recreate
in
those
areas.
I
didn't
know
jim
that
you
were
with
cshqa,
so
there's
a
plug
for
you
love
your
building
down
there.
E
Actually,
no
one
ear,
I
think
he's
a
managing
principal,
pretty
well
friends
with
my
daughter
anyway,
you
guys
are
doing
a
lot
of
really
great
stuff
across
the
city,
so
it's
fun
to
be
a
part
of
that
and
thinking
about
how
do
we
create
a
sense
of
place
and
enhance
conditions
through
the
landscaping?
E
As
we
know,
the
shade
improves
air
quality,
it
actually
improves
property
value
and
we're
trying
to
measure
those
kind
of
things
and
find
the
data
to
communicate
that
and
then
also
thinking
about.
How
can
we
build
those
functional
landscapes
and
improve
quality
of
life
through
all
throughout
the
city?
E
And
then
this
is
a
look
at
how
you
can
do
it
in
the
park.
These
are
from
some
of
your
folks
there
in
planning
and
development.
It
really.
I
don't
think
it
takes
much,
but
it
takes
intentionality
because
just
throwing
a
tree
in
a
small
space
doesn't
solve
the
problem
either,
because
that
tree
isn't
going
to
last
long
enough
to
have
an
impact
and
make
a
difference.
E
Taking
a
zoom
out
to
blueprint
boise,
which
I
know
this
is
a
challenge
in
cities
that
grow
so
fast.
You
know
it's
hard
to
keep
pace
with
your
planning
tools
and
and
all
the
changes
that
are
happening,
but
I
feel,
like
the
city
is
doing
a
really
good
job.
You
have
a
proactive
mayor
and
council
that
are
very
supportive
of
this
work.
E
I'm
sure
you're
all
familiar
with
silos
and
and
the
challenge
that
that
brings
and
the
more
that
we
can
collaborate
and
work
together
and
inform,
for
example,
the
city
of
trees
challenge
work
that
we're
doing
we're
targeting
areas
to
improve
equity
through
tree
planting.
Well,
the
climate
division
is
doing
the
same
thing
with
the
tools
they're
developing
to
focus
their
climate
work.
E
So
we
do
a
lot
of
cross-collaboration,
which
I
think
is
it's
a
wonderful
space
for
us
to
all
live
in
and
work
in,
and
then
I
think
the
other
thing
to
think
about
is
we're
making
decisions
when
it
comes
to
planning
and
zoning
and
design
review
that
are
going
to
have
long-term
impacts,
and
so
I
can
see
from
what's
happening
in
boise
that
you
all
have
that
long-term
vision,
you're
not
just
focused
on
the
short-term
cranking
out
developments
you're.
Looking
at
how
do
you
preserve
when
it's
the
right
thing
to
do?
E
How
do
you
design
and
build
functionality
into
our
resilient
future
of
the
city?
And
then
I
looked
a
bit
at
your
design
standards
and
living
in
the
north
end.
I've
had
some
experience
with
that.
We
have
a
1904
home
that
has
been
under
the
process
of
remodel
for
the
last
seven
years
that
we've
lived
here.
We're
almost
done,
thank
goodness
it's
a
labor
of
love,
but
you
have
a
lot
of
great
tools
in
place
to
be
able
to
do
that.
I
think
the
sustainable
design
talks
a
lot
to
using
trees
and
landscaping.
E
I
like
to
think
about
not
just
the
trees.
It's
that
whole
space
that
we're
creating
it's
the
soil,
it's
the
vertical
and
it's
what's
on
the
ground,
and
so
thinking
about
all
that
when
you're
designing.
That
is
important.
I
I
noticed
the
departures
a
little
bit
and
I
saw
those
as
opportunities.
How
can
you
take
your
parking
lots
and
create
parks
out
of
them
those
kind
of
creative
mechanisms
to
to
make
your
area
more
livable
and
not
just
functional
and
then
the
other
thing
that
we
talk
a
lot
about.
E
We
meet
with
city,
foresters,
all
across
the
valley
quarterly,
and
it's
amazing
and
challenging.
I
think
you
guys
can
put
all
the
intention
you
want
into
doing
the
right
design,
but
if
and
when
the
contractors
come
in
and
install
that,
if
they're
installing
the
trees,
for
example,
they
take
them
out,
put
them
in
the
burlap
sacks
in
the
ground.
E
Those
trees
are
going
to
last
about
eight
years
until
you
don't
really
know
why
they're
dying
and
then
you've
lost
all
that
investment
resources,
and
so
it's
really
important
for
us
to
think
about,
and
that's
a
challenge.
That's
all
on
all
of
our
plates
right.
You
guys
can't
enforce
it
on
the
ground
exactly
and
be
there
when
the
contractor
is
installing
those
trees,
but
we
all
have
a
responsibility
to
think
about
that
and
how
we
can
advance
that
to
make
sure
that
these
very
expensive
investments
are
not
just
five-year
investments.
E
E
This
is
the
area
with
the
highest
percent
tree
canopy
and
of
course
it
has
the
lowest
temperatures
in
the
heat
of
the
day,
and
I
always
laugh
that
seven
to
eight
pm
is
the
heat
of
the
day
in
boise.
People
don't
understand
that,
but
riding
my
road
bike
in
the
evenings,
I'm
I
can
attest
to
that
for
sure,
and
then
you
see,
as
we
go
to
these
areas
that
have
a
lot
lower
like
west
downtown
here's
an
opportunity
of
an
area
that
is
growing.
E
How
can
we
incorporate
tree
canopy
in
there
to
affect
the
impact
of
the
the
heat
in
that
area
as
we
grow,
and
that's
all
I
have
I
just
want
to.
I
know
you
guys
have
a
lot
on
your
plate
today.
You
got
a
meeting
coming
up,
but
I
want
a
chance
to
talk
answer
any
questions
kind
of
plant,
a
few
seeds
with
you
to
add
to
your
already
diverse
palette
of
understanding-
and
I
appreciate
the
time.
I
Yeah,
hey
lance.
I
actually
had
reached
out
to
council
member
clegg
a
while
ago
in
my
professional
capacity,
not
as
a
design
review
committee,
member
being
a
landscape
architect
and
putting
together
plans
that
you
know
obviously
we're
trying
to
incorporate
trees
per
code.
And
you
know
if
we
can
get
people
to
add
more
trees.
That's
great
and
the
treasure
that
the
treasure
valley
tree
challenge,
or
you
know
one.
I
I
One
thing
that
I
we
kind
of
brainstormed
in
our
office
was,
if
there's
a
way
to
work
on
like
a
stamp
or
a
logo
that
we
could
incorporate
into
the
landscape
plan,
title
block
that
you
could
put
the
number
of
trees
to
be
planted
on
the
in
the
title
block.
So
when
you
pull
up
a
landscape
plan,
you
can
look
right
at
that
and
say:
okay,
this
is
this
project's
planting,
35
trees.
I
I
Just
something
that
I
feel
like
would
help
maybe
track
that
a
little
bit
better
and
encourage
people
to
plant
more
trees,
because
if
they
can
have
a
project
that
says,
look
at
my
plan
that
has
you
know
we're
planting
75
trees
on
this
project,
just
kind
of
a
thought,
something
that
I
think
would
be
beneficial
for,
as
as
a
professional
in
the
in
that
field,
you
know
just
to
import.
It
wouldn't
be
hard
for
us
to
work
it
into
our
title
block.
So
just
something
to
think
about
I'd.
E
No,
I
would
love
to
and
that's
so.
If
did
you
get
my
email
from
that
last
slide
shoot
me
an
email,
and
we
can
talk
about
that
because
that's
that's
what
I
love
about.
Having
a
10-year
initiative
is
that
we're
learning
as
we
go,
and
so
last
year
we
just
got
the
trees
from
planning
and
development
in
a
batch
at
the
end,
but
we're
trying
to
find
ways
to.
I
like
your
idea
of
kind
of
incentivizing
a
little
bit
having
a
cool
stamp.
That
makes
it
happen.
E
I
would
like
to
automate
it
eventually
and
so
we're
trying
to
figure
that
out
with
all
the
different
departments
we're
working
on
partnerships,
like
I
said,
with
the
nurseries
with
boise
city
schools
with
boise
state
and
so
yeah.
If
you
could
email
me,
that's
a
big
part
of
our
role
in
helping
the
challenge.
Happen
is
finding
more
and
more
ways
to
make
this
easy
easy
to
count
those
trees.
E
We
need
to
count
every
tree
that
gets
in
the
ground
if
we're
gonna
get
anywhere
close
to
a
hundred
thousand
and
then
find
ways
to
impact
more
tree
planting
in
the
right
places
for
the
right
reasons.
So
you
have
my
email,
ben.
I
Yeah,
I
do
that's
excellent
and
I
actually
have
already
started
working
up
kind
of
a
concept
for
what
that
looks
like.
So
I
could
probably
just
find
my
email
that
I'd
sent
to
elaine
and
yeah.
You
know
send
it
over
to
you
and
you
know
we
can
continue
that
conversation.
C
E
With
the
rest
of
your
meeting
and
you've
got
my
contact
if
you
have
any
follow-up,
but
thanks
for
the
time.
B
Thank
you
lance
appreciate
it
very
much
committee
members
I'll
make
sure
that
I
have
a
copy
of
lance's
presentation
that
we
can
get
distributed
to
you
all
for
reference.
D
B
D
B
You
josh
and
with
that
looks
like
you
have
about
five
minutes,
we'll
we'll
reconvene
and
get
the
public
hearing
started.
D
D
B
B
B
B
B
B
Okay,
mr
chairman
looks
like
it's
six
o'clock
and
we
can
get
started.
B
And
I
will
start
with
the
preamble
if
that.
D
B
Good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
boise
city
design
review
committee
meeting
a
few
things
to
start
out
with
for
tonight's
proceedings,
everyone
from
the
public
entering
the
hearing
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak.
As
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion,
you
will
be
called
upon
and
unmuted
you
will
be
promoted
to
panelists
and
will
rejoin
the
meeting
after
a
slight
delay.
B
B
After
that,
we
will
proceed
to
public
testimony,
starting
with
those
who
signed
up
on
the
online
sign
up
sheet
in
advance,
and
then
anyone
who
raises
their
hand
virtually
if
you
are
attending
through
your
telephone,
you
can
type
in
star9.
To
raise
your
hand,
each
member
of
the
public
is
allowed
up
to
three
minutes
for
testimony.
B
B
C
You
josh,
we
are
the
citizen
volunteers
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
approved
by
city
council.
We
make
final
decisions
on
design
review
permits.
Any
decision
made
tonight
may
be
appealed
to
the
boise
city
planning
and
zoning
commission,
provided
that
the
appeal
is
filed
within
10
days
of
the
hearing.
In
order
to
file
an
appeal,
you
must
have
written
ungiven,
written
or
oral
testimony
at
tonight's
meeting.
So
that's
why
it's
important
to
give
your
name
and
address
when
you
testify
tonight,
we
utilize
a
consent
agenda.
C
This
means
that
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report
and
there
is
no
public
opposition.
The
item
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda.
All
items
that
are
placed
on
the
consent
agenda
are
approved
with
one
motion
without
further
public
comments
for
adam's,
not
on
the
consent
agenda,
we
will
hold
a
full
public
hearing
in
the
order
on
the
agenda
with
staff,
applicant
neighborhood
association
and
then
the
public
testimony.
C
H
A
G
A
K
D
D
I
C
Second,
thank
you
with
that
victoria.
You
please
call
the
roll.
H
A
H
C
C
I
see
no
hands
being
raised,
and
so
that
concludes
our
items
to
be
considered
for
our
deferral
at
this
time.
I
would
take
a
motion.
J
Mr
chairman,
yes,
could
I
move
that
drh21008
be
deferred
to
the
april
fourteenth
meeting?
Thank
you,
mr
dean.
G
A
D
C
We
have
one
item
to
be
considered
for
tonight's
consent
agenda.
That's
item
number
two
item
number
two
is
drh21-00034
location
is
1320
northwestern
road
for
the
construction
of
two
new
single-story
self-service
storage
buildings;
totally
approximately
11
800
square
feet
with
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
located
in
one
d
zone
and.
D
C
C
C
C
Seeing
no
virtually
raised
hands
and
I
think
there's
no,
nobody
in
the
actual
chambers
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition.
That
will
conclude
our
items
to
be
on
our
consent
agenda
for
tonight,
and
I
would
look
for
a
motion
on
the
consent
agenda.
Mr.
L
C
Hearing
none
victorious.
M
D
G
C
F
This
project
is
for
the
construction
of
an
approximately
109
000
square
foot
single-story
industrial
building.
The
property
is
currently
made
up
of
three
parcels.
A
unique
aspect
of
the
property
is
that
there
is
an
existing
wireless
communications
tower
at
the
northwest
corner.
This
tower
will
not
be
modified
and
will
be
will
stay
on
the
site.
F
As
noted,
the
parcel
is
currently
three
separate
properties.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
adjust
those
lines
and
create
two
individual
parcels.
This
will
be
done
through
a
record
of
survey
process
that
will
need
to
be
complete
prior
to
the
submittal
of
any
construction
permits.
The
property
is
located
on
the
outskirts
of
boise
city
limits
directly
to
the
west
are
meridian
city
limits.
F
F
The
main
point
of
contention
tonight
appears
to
be
access
points
to
the
site.
As
such,
my
presentation
will
focus
on
access.
However,
if
there
are
any
questions
by
the
design
review
committee
or
any
other
concerns
are
raised
by
the
applicant,
we
can
look
further
at
the
other
conditions
of
approval
and
site
requirements.
F
As
shown
on
site
plan,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
use
two
curb
cuts
and
drive
aisles
to
access
the
site.
The
curb
cuts
are
existing,
but
are
proposed
to
be
modified
and
expanded
for
the
development
staff
is
recommending
reducing
the
site
down
to
one
access
point
in
the
analysis.
In
the
project
report,
we
are
recommending
closing
the
western
curb
cuts
and
maintaining
the
eastern
curb
cut.
This
was
after
initial
conversations
with
achd.
F
F
The
east
curb
cut
this
better
aligns
with
achd
policies
and
also
mirrors
what
our
comprehensive
planning
team
recommended
so
to
try
and
avoid
any
confusion
here
on
the
site
plan,
we
are
proposing
to
keep
the
western
curb
cut,
which
is
at
the
bottom
of
this
image
and
provide
cross
access,
the
abutting
property
and
to
close
the
eastern
curb
cut,
which
is
at
the
top
of
the
image
when
the
memo
was
sent.
The
achd
draft
report
had
not
been
received,
however.
Staff
in
the
applicant
did
receive
the
draft
report.
F
F
F
Achd
staff
and
their
traffic
services
reviewed
the
supplemental
information
that
the
applicant
provided
them
and
found
that
the
second
driveway
is
not
necessary
to
serve
the
site.
One
driveway
is
sufficient
to
serve
the
44
pm
peak
hour
trips
in
the
367
daily
trips
that
are
anticipated
to
be
generated
by
this
development.
F
The
site-specific
conditions
of
the
draft
report
that
are
relevant
to
this
conversation
is
again
to
close.
The
existing
30-foot
wide
paved
curb
return
type
driveway
at
the
sides,
east
property
line
with
curb
gutter
and
sidewalk,
some
actually
existing
improvements
on
either
side
other
than
the
access
point
specifically
approved
through
this
report,
which
would
be
the
western
curb
cut,
all
other
access
is
prohibited
to
franklin.
F
In
addition
to
the
achd
report,
the
design
review
committee
does
have
the
authority
to
restrict
site
access
per
the
boise
city
zoning
code.
The
purpose
of
the
design
review
committee
is
to
ensure
the
general
appearance
of
development
is
in
compliance
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
enhances
important
environmental
features
of
the
city
and
the
physical
characteristics
of
the
land
and
ensures
the
orderly
and
harmonious
development
of
the
community
at
our
public
hearings,
we're
typically
discussing
the
boise
city-wide
design,
standards
and
guidelines,
as
well
as
the
downtown
design,
standards
and
guidelines.
F
However,
there
are
numerous
policies
that
are
reviewed
and
enforced
through
the
design
review
process.
Two
of
those
policies,
blueprint
boise
and
the
transportation
action
plan,
as
outlined
in
the
project
report,
specifically
support
reducing
the
site
down
to
one
access
point
again,
as
outlined
in
the
project
report.
The
applicant
did
provide
some
concerns
with
restricting
the
site.
However,
staff
did
not
find
justification
to
go
against
our
design
standards
and
guidelines,
zoning
code
and
policies,
in
addition
to
again
to
our
design,
review
role.
F
F
F
N
Now
I
also
want
to
make
sure
it
is
I'm
looking
for
the
opportunity
to
share
a
screen
here
and
I'm
not
quite
seeing
that
function.
B
N
Okay,
there,
it
is
thank
you.
Let
me
make
sure
you
get
this
up
and
see
if
everybody
can
see
that
if
you
could,
let
me
know.
N
Thank
you.
My
name
is
rob
sunderlidge
with
horox
engineers
we're
at
2775
west
navigator
in
meridian,
idaho
83642.
N
I
just
wanted
to
start
expressing
appreciation
from
our
team
and
working
with
ms
downey
and
her
efforts
to
create
a
thorough
staff
report,
and
we
appreciate
the
review
and
addressing
the
the
concerns
that
exist
on
site,
and
I
wanted
to
state
that
in
the
essence
of
time,
any
of
the
conditions
that
were
granted
that
were
placed
on
the
project.
We
we
don't
really
have
any
concerns
with
and
we
feel
like.
N
We
can
work
through
that,
and
so
we
are
accepting
of
all
the
conditions
provided
the
one
condition
that
casey
had
brought
up
condition,
one
specifically
c
and
e,
which
addressed
the
access
into
the
site
and
we'd
like
to
focus
our
attention.
N
As
far
as
our
time
on
these
access
points-
and
I
wanted
to
also
express
the
understanding
that,
while
we
understand
achd
controls,
franklin
road
and
access
points,
we
certainly
understand
that
the
city
has
very
much
vested
interest
with
boise
blueprint
and
see
comprehensive
planning
committee
and
all
those
efforts
that
come
into
making
access
and
street
transportation
mitigation
efforts
that
are
possible
during
development.
N
So
we
wanted
to
express
that
we
will
obviously
be
working
with
achieve
but
wanted
to
focus
on
the
city's
concerns
at
this
point
in
casey
brought
up
the
the
points
that
we
had
made
in
the
original
application,
and
I
think
what
we'd
like
to
do
at
this
point
is
just
really
take
a
broader
view
of
the
concerns
that
the
city
had
with
the
main
maintenance
of
two
access
points.
N
And
again
we
were
appreciative
of
the
analysis
and
looking
at
the
west
access
point,
you
can
see
my
cursor
this
being
the
site,
we're
appreciative
of
the
granting
of
the
full
access
on
that
west
access
point
and
with
the
understanding
that
this
cross-access
agreement
between
adjacent
properties
is
a
technique.
That's
used
with
acht
in
the
city
to
allow
connectivity
between
the
properties,
the
adjacent
properties
and
not
require
additional
access
points
onto
the
main
roadways,
particularly
the
principal
arterials,
which
the
traffic
movement
is
a
critical
piece
to
traffic
flow
in
the
area
I
wanted
to
create.
N
N
All
these
properties
exist
upon
franklin,
and
I-
and
I
also
wanted
to
preempt
this
with
a
statement
that
we
we
certainly
understand
that
impacting
other
people's
properties
is
not
something
that
we
are
in
the
purview
to
do.
But
we
ask
that
the
city,
as
you
look
at
as
site,
gets
as
the
site
gets
developed.
This
is
something
that
you
can
consider
is
what
the
future
could
look
like
as
a
access
management
as
future,
as
these
other
properties
develop
in
addition
to
our
property.
So
again
our
property
focusing
right
here.
N
We
would
still
like
to
propose
looking
at
access
a
and
access
b,
as
full
accesses
due
to
the
unique
situation
of
the
surrounding
area
and
the
partials
that
abut
the
franklin
road
and
are
adjacent
to
our
project.
We
feel
like
there's
really
an
opportunity
to
implement
the
same
thought
process
for
the
access,
consolidation
and
cross-access
easements
on
adjacent
properties,
applying
that
to
the
east
access
as
well.
N
What
we're
looking
at
doing,
looking
again
at
the
unique
property
here,
achd
owns
the
property
in
green
and
obviously
they
are
in
tune
with
wanting
to
combine
access
and
provide
cross-access
easement.
So
I
think
that
was
the
intent
when
the
city
conditioned
this
and
were
again
very
on
board,
with
providing
access
to
achd
into
the
site
and
utilizing
access
a.
N
We
also
feel
like
that
same
principle
can
be
applied
to
the
east,
access
with
the
property
in
yellow
and
the
property
in
orange,
the
property
in
orange,
being
owned
by
idaho
power
with
the
yellow
property,
and
this
was
actually
the
original
condition
of
the
city
that
if
this
access
were
to
remain
open,
that
we
would
provide
a
cross-access
easement
to
the
yellow
parcel
which
we
would
intend
to
do
and
providing
that
access
would
again
allow
their
current
access,
it's
labeled
c
to
be
removed
and
and
we'll
facilitate
that,
through
access
b,
now
the
uniqueness
of
the
orange
property
idaho
powers
property
is
they
have
five
access
points
currently
along
cloverdale
and
franklin.
N
None
of
these
are
full
access.
These
are
all
right
and
right
out
they're
restricted
by
medians
along
cloverdale
and
franklin.
N
What
we'd
like
to
do
is
take
the
condition
or
take
the
existing
configuration
of
their
flag
lot
provide
access
here,
which
ultimately
would
allow
full
access
through
access
b
into
their
site,
which
would
allow
movement
left
turn
movements
off
franklin
and
again
provide
a
an
access
that,
through
cross
access,
he's
been
through
the
site
here
on
the
north
side
and
here
through
the
south
side
of
this
blue
parcel,
which
will
be
a
future
parcel
on
the
project
which
again
share
these
access
points.
N
We
believe
that
this
really
meets
the
intent
of
what
the
city's
policy
is
of
taking
all
the
property
frontages
and
all
of
these
adjacent
parcels
and
working
together
to
provide
cross-access,
easement
and
consolidating
them
into
two
access
points
that
can
serve
essentially
about
1500
feet
of
frontage
along
franklin,
road
and
consolidating
seven,
potentially,
seven
access
points
into
two
access
points,
so
that
alone,
you
know,
really
paints
a
strong
picture.
N
We
believe
to
to
say,
with
some
participation
with
neighboring
properties
and
as
properties
develop,
providing
that
cross-access
between
the
adjacent
parcels
really
does
have
a
positive
impact
and
really
works
towards
meeting
boise's
goals
of
safety
and
limiting
access
points
and
the
sheer
number
of
access
points
along
an
entire
frontage
wanted
to
talk
about
again
the
unique
nature
of
these
parcels
and
and
how
they
can
be
granted
one
one
condition
as
far
as
access
can
be
granted,
one
condition
that
came
out
with
regard
to
fire
life
and
safety.
N
We
are
anticipating
sprinkling
the
building,
if,
if
you
do
not
sprinkle
the
building
fire
department
requires
two
points
of
access
on
a
building
this
size
which
anything
over
62
000
square
feet
would
require
two
points
of
access
again,
while
we're
sprinkling
the
buildings
that
removes
that
concern,
but
it
still
doesn't
take
away
the
intent
of
what
access
would
mean
for
fire
life
and
safety
issues
and
so
still
providing
not
needing
to
make
that
concession
by
still
providing
two
access
points.
N
N
That
comes
with
its
concerns,
but
we
wanted
to
express
that
that
is
a
that
is
a
deterrent
to
the
development,
but
it
also
is
something
that
we're
absolutely
willing
to
look
at
for
meeting
these
needs
for
this
cross-access,
and
we
believe
that
it
does
create
a
good
system
for
the
overall
site.
The
spacing
here
is,
as
as
downey
mentioned,
we
are
about
371
feet.
N
Achds
access
spacing
requirement
between
two
access
points
is
450.,
so
this
represents
about
82
percent
of
what
that
full
access
spacing
would
be
required
to
have,
and
achd
does
have
some
purview
to
make
concessions
if
they
feel
like
the
overall
site
and
overall
access
mitigation
is,
is
handled
appropriately.
N
I
also
wanted
to
mention
in
this
east
access.
We
have
an
idaho
power
easement,
there's
a
line
that
runs
up
and
down
the
sea's
property
access
would
benefit
again
franchise
utilities
and
then,
along
the
west
side,
we
have
potential
sewer
extension.
There's
a
sleeve
in
the
road
in
franklin,
road
and
the
the
plan
for
boise
sewer
would
be
to
extend
along
this
west
property
and
so
providing
both.
Those
access
points
does
serve
a
purpose
for
access
and
maintenance
of
facilities,
franchise
and
city
utilities
as
well.
N
So
I,
in
conclusion,
on
the
the
points
of
access
I
I
just
wanted
to
express
that
we
do
feel
like
maintaining
two
full
access
points
really
does
allow
for
a
good
consolidation
of
properties,
access
and
and
how
they
can
be
served
onto
franklin
road.
One
one
side
point
there's
this
median
here
that
terminates
right
about
here.
You
can
see
the
screen
if
this
double
left
turn
lane
ever
needed
to
extend
any
further
again.
N
So
with
that,
we
would
like
to
make
that
appeal
that
we
again,
we
feel
like
these
access
points,
are
absolutely
beneficial
and
do
in
fact
meet
the
intent
as
a
regional
area,
as
we
look
at
this
area
to
satisfy
the
goals
of
the
city
when
considering
access-
and
I
would
with
my
time
again
I'm
a
site
civil
engineer-
I
have
michael
jepson-
who
is
the
owner's
rep
representative
and
developer?
N
C
O
O
And
and
again,
thank
you,
commissioner
marsh.
Thank
you
chairman
chairman
mark.
Excuse
me
and
commission
members
appreciate
your
time
and
listening
to
our
concerns
and
thank
you
casey
for
helping
keep
us
informed
in
the
process.
Again.
My
name
is
michael
jepson,
and
our
company
is
imagine
development.
O
We
represent
a
migrant
glass
company
in
the
migrant
living
trust
who
will
own
the
building
and
lease.
It
back
leads
a
portion
back
to
migrant
glass
company
a
little
bit
of
background
on
migrant
glass
company.
They
are
a
hundred
plus
year
old
family
company,
privately
owned
company.
You've
probably
never
heard
of
them,
but
they
are
the
largest
auto
glass
wholesaler
in
the
country.
O
With
about
a
hundred
locations
and
a
footprint
nationally
of
about
five
million
square
feet,
we
brought
them
to
boise
in
2011.,
I'm
actually
a
boise
native
grew
up
in
west
boise
went
to
coal
elementary,
I'm
no
stranger
to
traffic.
I
had
to
cross
fairview
and
coal.
I
think
at
the
time
I
mean
this
dates
me.
It
was
the
busiest
intersection
in
boise
back
when
I
was
going
to
school
there
in
the
in
the
70s
and
early
80s.
O
O
So
I
I
don't
know
that
he
lived
to
regret
or
be
thankful
for
that
position,
but
he
he
was
committed
to
trying
improving
traffic
and-
and
I
think
it's
important
and
rob
mentioned-
we
want
you
all
to
know
that
we
are.
We
perceive
ourselves
as
collaborators
and
not
antagonists.
We've
appreciated
the
collaboration
with
boise
city,
and
whenever
we
ask
about
how
boise
city
is
to
work
with,
everybody
says
you
know,
they're
really
great
to
work
with,
and
that's
been
our
experience.
O
We
we
think
we've
crafted
something
here.
That
is,
is
truly
a
benefit
for
all
parties
involved,
just
of
interest.
For
you
all
to
know,
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
again,
I'm
a
native
to
the
market.
We
spent
two
years
looking
for
a
piece
of
property.
It
was
a
challenging
thing
to
do.
We're
currently
out
on
gown
road
we'd
like
to
be
further
west.
We've
had
opportunities
to
to
move
to
meridian
and
to
nampa.
O
We
would
like
to
keep
this
opportunity
in
boise,
but
you
know
we
bought
this
property
from
the
adler
group
who
bought
it
from
the
van
ockers
we
bought
it.
We've
been
looking
at
it
for
a
long
time.
It
took
us
a
long
time
just
to
negotiate
with
those
guys
and
we
bought
it
with
the
two
accesses
and
the
full
intention
to
design
to
those
accesses,
and
in
talking
to
my
client,
the
ownership
group,
the
one
curb
cut
is
an
absolute
show.
O
Stopper,
it's
a
it's
a
deal
killer
for
this
location
for
what
we
want
to
do
so
it.
It
truly
is
our
hope
that
we
can
partner
with
you
and
collaborate
and
figure
out
how
to
get
to
curb
cuts
where
we're
very
willing
to
to
work
with
everyone.
In
fact,
one
thing
that
rob
didn't
mention
in
working
with
the
fire
marshal
for
our
building
we've
created
a
no
build
easement
with
the
neighbor
with
the
fedex
property
owners
that
covers
about
eight.
O
I
think
eight
feet
on
either
side
of
that
property
boundary
and
we've
actually
granted
the
fedex
owners
emergency
access
on
our
property
as
well.
So
we've
already
created
some
collaboration
with
them
and
I
think
that's
indicative
of
the
kind
of
collaboration
we
want
to
do
again.
If,
if
they
had
emergency
vehicles
that
needed
to
access
the
back
of
the
property,
they
could
come
through
our
property.
So
really,
I
think
I
think
those
are
those
are
my
points.
O
C
Mr
jefferson,
maybe
can
you
expand
a
little
bit
on
on
the
need
for
the
second
one
I
mean
from
the
trip
you
know
from
the
report.
We
got
from
achd
and
such
it
says
that
you
know
one
access
point
should
survive.
Suffice.
Can
you
just
tell
me
about
what
the
complex
point.
O
Sure,
from
a
development
perspective
and
an
ownership
perspective,
the
the
owners,
you
know
we're
building
a
hundred
and
ten
thousand
square
foot
building
migrant
glass
will
occupy
about
half
of
it,
and
so
we've
we've
designed
it
to
accommodate
two
more
tenants.
O
This
tenant
migrant
glass
really
doesn't
have
that
much
traffic
in
terms
of
industrial
traffic,
I'm
a
30-year
veteran
commercial,
real
estate
broker
industrial
broker
in
salt
lake
city,
and
I
I
have
a
large
concern
about
the
amount
of
truck
traffic
we
could
get.
Having
one
curb
cut
makes
the
project
it
just
doesn't
work
with
this
configuration
this
long,
narrow
configuration
getting
trucks
and
cars
in
and
out
of
there.
O
We
have
a
project
in
salt
lake
city,
where
it's
west
of
the
airport
and
we're
working
with
costco
and
others
who
have
amazing
amounts
of
truck
traffic
and
mixing
cars
and
trucks,
and
I
know
that
the
city
may
not
have
as
much
concern
as
we
do,
but
we've
had
some
serious
life,
safety
issues,
mixing
trucks
and
cars,
and
that
was
my
first
thought
about
about
it.
You
know
we've
tried
to
come
up
with
some
other
viable
reasons,
but
that
was
that
was
my
biggest
concern.
O
Chairman
marsh
was
you
know
just
separating
trucks
and
cars,
so
you
know
the
the
west
access
we
think
predominantly
will
be
utilized
by
trucks,
because
the
the
building
is
is
loaded
on
the
west
side,
the
big
building
in
the
future.
My
concern
is
that
that
front
building
will
be
much
like
the
stoddard
building
across
the
street.
I
don't
know
if
you're
familiar,
if
you
guys
remember
talking
about
that
building,
I'm
assuming
you
guys
approved
it
similar
building,
so
it'll
be
kind
of
a
a
retail.
O
N
Can
I
add
to
that
as
well?
Absolutely
this
information.
Thank
you.
So,
in
addition
to
what
michael's
saying
as
far
as
this
additional
property
that
would
be
developed
in
the
future,
we
will
be
granting
this
cross-access
easement
across
potentially
this
entire
site,
which
would
match
in
size
roughly
our
our
project,
or
at
least
the
full
build
out
of
our
project.
N
So
what
we
would
be
asking
is
to
look
at
kind
of
future
proofing,
both
sides
to
where
we
say.
If
you
know
if
this
were
to
be
built
out
and
then
all
sudden,
your
traffic
increases
significantly
here
that
that
may
warrant
a
second
access,
and
if
this
access
is
there
already
for
a
second
access,
this
would
also
allow
for
the
full
build
out
of
this
area.
Obviously,
the
substation
probably
won't
build
out,
but
this
area
here
really
has
the
potential
to
build
out
and
so
looking
at
how
in
the
future,
this
builds
out.
N
What
do
these
two
established
accesses
provide,
and
it
really
is
a
significant
amount
of
traffic
from
all
of
the
contributing
areas,
not
just
our
site
here,
which
we
don't
want
to
focus
just
on
that,
but
also
future
proofing,
the
entire
area,
and
that's
how
we're
hoping
you
look
at
that
as
regionally
as
you
plan
this.
D
O
When
you
look
at
the
stoddard
property
on
the
south
side
of
the
street,
they
do
have
two
curb
cuts
that
are
actually
closer
together
than
ours,
and
that
was,
I
think,
a
recently
approved
project.
I
don't
know
what
the
details
of
that
were
but
rob
I
don't
know
if
you
can
point
to
that
property
on
your
screen,
but
they
do
have
two
curb
cuts
and
I
think
it's
probably
a
similar
setup
to
try
and
get
cross
access
to
the
neighbors
as
well.
So
it
seems
like
we're
asking
for
something
similar.
J
N
If,
if
I
can
answer
that,
michael,
I
think
from
from
a
standpoint
of
the
cross
access
easement
for
the
yellow
property
again,
that
would
be
something
that
the
city
we
would
provide
that
cross-access
easement
agreement
on
our
property.
I
don't
think
there's
any
incentive
for
the
city
to
force
anybody's
hand
until
they're
ready
for
development.
So
again,
this
would
be
anticipating
future
development,
so
at
the
time
that
this
yellow
parcel
would
go
in
for
application,
that
would
be
an
opportunity
to
look
at
consolidating
the
access
points.
N
So
we
would
do
our
part
in
making
sure
that
those
provisions
are
there.
The
curb
cuts
are
there
and
the
access
is
ready
to
be
utilized
by
this
east
parcel
at
the
time
that
they
are
ready
for
development.
So
really
just
it
would
be
doing
our
part
at
that
point,
and
then
the
city
as
you
plan
how
you
would
consolidate
access
if
they
have
an
alternative
access
which
would
be
b.
That
would
be
something
that
you
could
implement
that
crossfit's
access
through
the
properties
now
with
idaho
power.
N
N
You
do
have
these
medians
here
on
franklin
and
on
cloverdale,
and
any
emergency
vehicle
would
have
to
cross
over
these
medians
in
order
to
get
to
the
site,
there's
literally
no
way
to
get
into
the
idaho
power
site
off
of
the
roads
that
aren't
just
a
write-in
right
out,
and
so
that
has
become
very
restrictive
for
fire
life
safety.
So
at
the
point
of
communication
I
I
can
let
michael
speak
to
that.
I
don't.
O
We
have
not,
we
have
not
talked
to,
we
know
who
the
neighbors
are.
We,
we
know
the
the
name
of
the
neighbor
on
yellow,
but
we
have
not
talked
to
those
those
neighbors
yet.
N
And-
and
I
would
reiterate
that
at
the
point
that
this
becomes
developable
and
you
make
those
conditions-
this
isn't
a
new
access
that
would
impose
a
new
condition.
This
access
is
existing.
This
access
is
existing,
we're
not
proposing
anything
that
would
change
the
current
situation,
so
it
wouldn't
be
a
disruption
of
current
traffic
movements
other
than
just
what
is
utilized
or
what
is
generated
by
this.
This
building,
so
just
wanted
to
add
to
that.
I
Mr
chairman,
yes,
I
think
this
is
probably
in
part
a
question
for
staff
a
little
bit
in
conversations
with
achd,
and
maybe
the
applicant
has
some
information
too
or
can
add
something
to
this.
Was
there
any
discussions
about
potentially
restricting
the
eastern
access,
as
shown
on
their
site
plan
to
an
emergency
only
access
until
the
point
at
which
the
front
blue
parcel
and
yellow
parcel
redeveloped,
at
which
point
it
could
potentially
become
more
of
a
full
access,
providing
the
way
that
the
applicant
is
discussing
the
need
for
two
access
points.
I
If
you
know
knowing
that
sounds
like
more
of
the
concern
is
later
traffic
with
the
additional
tenants
in
their
building,
as
well
as
a
future
build
out
of
the
blue
parcel,
but
maybe
currently
with
just
their
owner,
maybe
not
as
much
of
a
concern
with
a
single
access
point
on
the
west.
I
can
clarify
that
question.
If
anybody
needs
that
too.
F
Chairman
marsh,
can
we
remember
simple?
I
think
I
understand
your
question,
so
there
wasn't
any
explicit
conversation
between
staff
and
achd
about
restricting
that
access
to
emergency.
Only
this
proposal
wasn't
presented
to
staff,
I'm
unaware
if
it
was
presented
to
achd.
So
on
that
later,
if
the
committee
would
like
staff
commentary
on
this
proposal,
we
can
get
into
that.
But
as
for
the
question
at
hand,
it
was
not
a
point
of
discussion
with
there
being
as
known
by
the
applicant
with
there
being
access
with
the
fedex
building
to
the
east.
I
N
N
I
I
would
say,
as
well:
achc
usually
reserves
the
right
if
this
was
granted
as
a
full
access,
they
assess
how
it's
functioning
and
if
that
becomes
a
problem
again,
it's
an
existing
access.
So
I'd
anticipate
that
it
wouldn't
necessarily
create
a
problem
initially.
But
at
the
point
where
this
would
ever
become
a
problem,
they
do
reserve
the
right
to
make
that
right
and
right
out
and
they
it's
an
easier
implementation
to
limit
some
access
there
with
some
infrastructure
that
doesn't
change
the
overall
infrastructure,
as
casey
pointed
out.
I
Mr
chairman,
I
guess
kind
of
a
follow-up.
Would
is
there
any
consideration
from
the
applicant
or
potentially
the
city
about
you
know.
I
know
that's
at
an
existing
access
point
right
now,
but
again
that
it
sounds
like
the
main
hang
up
is
the
future
traffic
and
not
really
the
the
current
or
the
traffic
associated
with
their
development
right
now,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
a
creative
way
that
could
meet
code
and
potentially
open
up
a
second
access
in
the
future.
I
Knowing
that
that
would
eliminate
you
know,
potentially
four
or
five
additional
access
points
that
are
on
there.
You
know
through
various
avenues,
cross-access
agreements-
stuff
like
that
that
I
guess
I
don't
know
if
either
the
staff
or
the
applicant
you
know
would
be
amenable
to
that
or
if
that's
something
that
could
be
explored
just
trying
to
continue
that
conversation
a
little.
F
Bit
chairman
marsh
community
member
simple
again,
this
hasn't
been
a
point
of
conversation
because
even
with
the
added
parcel,
if
it
does
develop,
we
we
still
didn't
find
any
justification
for
the
second
access
point.
However,
if
the
design
review
committee
is
is
looking
for
an
alternative,
we
could
potentially
look
at
not
closing
the
existing
curb
cut
with
curb
and
gutter
and
sidewalk
staff,
wouldn't
necessarily
recommend
that,
as
is
part
of
our
infrastructure
that
we're
trying
to
finish
out.
F
C
F
Yes,
chairman
marsh,
so
the
city
itself,
before
any
conversations
with
achd,
did
have
concerns
with
the
two
access
points.
So
this
decision
of
reducing
the
site
down
to
one
access
point
was
completely
separate
from
achd.
F
We
simply
work
with
them
because,
while
the
city
can
be
more
restrictive,
we
do
want
to
have
some
sort
of
communication
make
sure
we're
kind
of
going
in
the
same
direction
like
if
we
required
the
west
access
only.
They
require
the
east
access
only
there's
just
conflict
there.
That
would
have
to
be
resolved.
F
So
we
did
talk
about
the
appropriate
access
points,
but
it
is
specifically
city
policy
that
we
are
looking
at
to
require
the
reduction
down
to
one
access
point,
and
that
is
partially
the
distance
between
the
intersection
of
cloverdale
and
franklin,
but
also
just
the
separation
between
access
points.
The
more
access
points
you
have.
We
tend
to
have
more
conflict
between
vehicles
as
well
as
vehicles
and
pedestrians,
and
we
also
find
an
improved
pedestrian
experience
when
there's
less
curb
cuts.
D
L
You
know
attached
sidewalks
and
just
very
little
pedestrian.
It
looks
like
very
little
potential
for
pedestrian
activity
here.
C
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Is
there
any
member
of
the
neighborhood
association
wishing
to
testify
on
this
tonight?
If
you
would
please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
C
C
C
Achd,
ultimately,
has
the
final
say
on
that
are
on
the
locations
numbers
at
those
access
points
is
that
is
that,
true
from
if
we
were
to
for
some
reason,
if
we
were
to
allow
both
of
them,
they
would
still
not
necessarily
be
allowed
if
achd
is
in
an
agreement
at
a
future
point.
Is
that
correct.
F
D
A
P
P
I
support
the
staff
report
on
this
situation.
I
empathize
with
the
developer,
but
there's
a
couple
things
we
should
be
thinking
about.
I
totally
understand
like
today.
P
Potentially
there
wouldn't
be
an
issue
that
was
constructed,
we
need
to
look
at
the
future
and
I
don't
know
if
we
have
the
ability
to
look
at
a
map
and
show
its
proximity
to
say,
eagle
road
and
the
fact
that
we
have
touch
mark
just
down
the
street
a
little
bit,
and
I
would
imagine
that
between
eagle
road
and
cloverdale,
there's
probably
potential
for
more
multi-family
projects
going
along
that
corridor
than
there
would
be
industrial
projects.
P
I
don't
recall
our
time
reviewing
that
project,
but
regardless
their
existing,
curb
cuts
are
in
conflict
with
the
proposed
or
the
existing
curb
cuts,
and
I
see
conflicts
there
and
I
think
the
traffic
on
franklin
road
is
really
busy
whenever
the
interstate
shuts
down,
for
whatever
reason,
we
have
all
that
traffic
that
diverts
to
franklin-
and
I
agree
that
we
need
to
minimize
curb
cuts
when
we
can
it's
just
going
to
create
more
traffic
complex
down
the
road.
P
You
know
the
applicant
made
mention
of
coal
and
fairview
area
and
if
you're
familiar
with
fairview
between
coal
and
orchard,
there's
just
a
ton
of
curb
cuts
and
I
think
they're-
that's
probably
the
busiest
street
in
terms
of
accidents,
both
pedestrian
vehicle.
So
there's
been
a
big
push
along
that
corridor
when
new
development
comes
to
close,
curb
cuts,
so
I
think
we'd
be
studying
a
bad
precedent
here
and
I
I
think
we
need
to
support
the
current
policy
and
the
staff
recommendations.
I
I
I
I
You
know
I
I
do
agree
that
we
need
to
support
the
staff
of
you,
know
their
analysis
of
the
project
and
they're
working
with
achd
and
determining
what
is
best
for
the
future.
Just
want
to
continue
the
conversation.
Make
sure
that
the
restrictive
nature
of
the
a
single
point
isn't
going
to
create
more
conflict
in
the
future
versus
you
know,
potentially
having
a
second
one.
I
You
know
when,
as
the
site
develops,
where
they're
showing
a
second
one,
so
that's
was
just
my
point
to
try
to
get
a
conversation
going
but
yeah.
I
agree
that
the
staff
has
done
a
great
job
at
analyzing
this
and
working
with
achd
to
create
you
know
the
vision
for
the
future
development
of
this
corridor,
which
is
kind
of
an
unknown
at
this.
J
Mr
chairman,
I
have
a
question
that
you
know
when
we
first
started
when
they
first
started
the
presentation,
and
maybe
staff
can
weigh
in
on
this.
They
they
talked
about.
J
We've
just
barely
got
the
achd
review,
the
staff
hasn't
really
looked
at
it
and
given
their
opinion
on
it
and
it
in
some
ways
it
feels
like
we're
prematurely
trying
to
tell
achd
what
to
do
when
they
haven't
weighed
in
fully
and
worked
with
the
applicant
on.
What's
the
right
answer
here,
the
applicant's
got
some
ideas
they're
trying
to
solve
some
future
problems,
we're
not
traffic
engineers,
so
we're
relying
on
achc's
expertise
to
be
over
folded
over
this,
and
it
feels
like
we're
kind
of
preempting
their
ability
to
take
a
look
at
it.
J
F
Chairman
marsh,
would
I
be
able
to
comment
on
the
achd
process
to
clarify
perfect,
so
we
did
get
the
draft
report
today.
However,
achd
has
been
in
constant
communication
with
the
applicant,
in
addition
to
city
staff,
the
applicant
has
provided
multiple
revisions
to
kind
of
traffic
impact
analysis
and
and
road
access
trips.
So
this
draft
report
isn't
just
a
draft
after
initial
information.
It
is
a
full
review.
They
just
allow
the
applicants
five
days
to
provide
comments
before
they
finalize
it.
That's
just
the
achd
practice
of
creating
reports.
C
Yeah,
unfortunately,
I
wish
you
there's
a
way
to
get
a
common
access
on
one
of
those
adjoining
lots
that
could
be
developed
at
the
same
time
to
kind
of
solve
this.
For
this
particular
location,
especially
since
stated,
the
separation
is
80
of
the
requirements
at
this
particular
location,
not
knowing
when
the
future
development
of
those
adjacent
parcels
are,
but
anything
trying
to
you
know,
force
that
hand
kind
of
some
of
the
comments
that
mr
simple
brought
up
seemed
like
they'd,
be
fairly
complicated
to
move
forward
on.
C
I
Mr
chairman,
yes,
I
I
don't
know
I
mean
this,
I
don't
have
anything
to
modify
any
conditions,
but
considering
that
achd
is
talking
about
restricting
it
to
a
single
point,
they
own
both
parcels
immediately
to
the
west.
I
So
I
guess
in
the
interim,
if
they
have
an
access
out
of
there,
you
would
think
that
there's
a
potential
to
create
a
current
cross-access
there
with
achd
to
provide
the
two
points
of
access
potentially
and
develop
it.
You
know
in
the
future,
just
as
a
comment,
maybe
that's
a
a
path
for
the
the
applicant
to
take
rather
than
you
know,
abandoning
their
their
plan
on
this
property
because
of
the
the
single
condition
I
just
kind
of
an
idea.
H
To
I
think,
to
bring
this
at
least
to
the
table
to
see
what
the
overall
feeling
is.
I
agree
that
this
is
a
staff
has
done
a
a
very
thorough
job
of
reviewing
this,
and
the
discussion
here
tonight
has
been
thorough,
but
I
think
personally,
I
think
we
need
to.
H
We
need
to
go
with
the
recommendations
by
the
staff,
including
the
modification
that
was
issued
on
march
9th,
so
I
would
move
to
approve
drh
21-0043,
as
recommended
in
defining's
effect
conclusions
of
law
and
the
recommended
conditions
of
approval
noted
in
the
project
report,
with
the
modification
of
conditions
1c
and
1e,
as
provided
in
the
memo
received
on
the
9th
of
march
of
2021..
P
A
H
M
H
M
C
Next
time
to
be
heard,
tonight
is
item
number
four:
it's
cba
20-00059,
the
location
is
101
south
capitol
boulevard,
the
variance
to
exceed
the
maximum
background
area
for
a
proposed
wall
signs
in
a
c5
gdc
zone.
At
this
time
I
would
turn
it
over
to.
D
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
committee
members.
This
is
a
request
for
a
signed
variance
to
exceed
the
maximum
background
area
in
the
capital
boulevard
special
design
district
overlay.
So
the
design
review
committee
will
be
forwarded,
forwarding
their
recommendation
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
who
make
the
decision
on
the.
K
K
K
According
to
our
records,
the
existing
sign
was
approved
at
329
square
feet
in
1998,
and
it
was
approved
based
on
being
smaller
than
the
existing
sign.
That
was
on
the
building
at
the
time
and
then
the
two
proposed
signs
are
each
570
square
feet
for
a
total
of
1140
square
feet
so
that
exceeds
our
maximum
65
square
feet
per
sign
allowed
in
the
capital
boulevard,
special
design,
district.
K
And
the
proposed
sign
is
updated
to
align
with
the
company's
current
branding,
so
it
has
a
linear
format.
Instead
of
the
current
stacked
format,
the
us
bank,
letters
are
approximately
10
feet
tall,
the
red
logo
cabinet
is
approximately
13
feet
tall
and
the
sign
is
approximately
52
feet
wide
and
both
the
current
sign
and
the
proposed
sign
would
be
illuminated.
K
K
So,
from
the
southeast
corner
of
sixth
and
front,
you
can
kind
of
see
the
existing
sign
and
then,
where
their
circle
is,
that's.
Where
you'd
see
the
proposed
sign
and
then
from
the
southwest
corner
of
myrtle
and
11th,
where
their
circle
there
is
where
the
other
sign
would
be
visible
from.
K
K
Alternatively,
the
committee
can
approve
the
signs,
as
proposed
with
findings
for
how
the
variance
criteria
are
being
met
or
recommend
approval
with
additional
conditions,
and
I
believe
the
applicant
team
does
have
a
presentation
they
would
like
to
share.
But
I
would
like
to
note-
I
saw
the
presentation
previously
and
they
are
showing
a
backing
panel.
That
was
not
part
of
the
application,
so
I
cannot
review
that
as
part
of
the
application
at
this
point
and
that's
not
something
we
could
approve.
C
And
if
mr
baker,
if
you
get
josh,
you
can
elevate
him
to
a
panelist
and
when
you
have
a
moment,
if
you
would
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the.
H
H
M
Yes,
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
defer
to
jennifer
harper
and
the
team
at
u.s
bank.
D
Q
I
would
like
to
share
the
presentation
that
we
presented.
My
name
is
jennifer
harper.
I
work
with
the
us
bank
national
sign
company.
Our
name
is
stratis.
We
are
primarily
located.
Our
headquarters
is
in
mentor
ohio.
Can
everybody
see
the
presentation
that
I
have
up.
Q
So
just
quickly,
u.s
bank
is
the
fifth
largest
u.s
bank
commercial
company
in
the
united
states,
with
more
than
150
years
in
banking,
they
employ
74
000
employees
across
several
different
departments.
They
trace
their
routes
in
the
idaho
area.
Back
to
first
national
bank
later
became
idaho,
first
national
bank
and
west
one
bank,
which
was
founded
in
1867.
Q
It
is
idaho's
longest,
currently
operating
bank.
Currently
they
operate
39
branches
in
the
treasure
valley
area
with
299
employees.
So
I'll
kind
of
briefly
go
over
the
variance
request,
since
the
staff
did
cover
that.
So
the
code
currently
limits
us
to
15
of
the
wall
area
or
65
square
feet.
The
existing
329
square
foot
eliminated
signs
were
planned
to
be
removed
and
replaced
with
the
two
570
square
feet
signs
here's
a
picture
of
the
existing
signage.
That
staff
also
has
shown,
and
then
also
the
proposed
signage
with
the
backer
panel.
Q
But
we
will
not
count
that
for
the
purpose
of
this
meeting,
we
will
seek
if,
if
allowed
to
that,
if
the
bank
requires
that
here
are
some
examples
of
other
previous
sites
that
we
have
completed
with
the
new
linear
layout,
so
that
you
can
see
this
is
the
new
standard
for
large-scale
or
high-rise
buildings.
Q
Q
Q
We
would
also
like
to
seek
a
hardship
of
similar
size
signs,
an
area
from
major
major
competitor
banks
of
zion
bank
and
first
interstate,
and
we
do
have
a
couple
of
screenshots
of
their
signage
here.
So
zion
bank
actually
has
three
signs
on
three
elevations
and
can
be
seen
from
the
interstate
as
well.
Q
So,
by
comparison,
the
eighth
and
main
tower,
which
is
also
the
design
bank
tower,
is
18
stories
and
they
do
have
the
three
signs
again.
I've
got
an
additional
photo
here.
The
u.s
bank
tower
is
19
stories,
I'm
the
one
that's
in
question
banner
bank,
which
is
just
a
couple
blocks
away,
is
11
stories
and
it
actually
has
signs
on
four
elevations
and
then
the
first
interstate
bank
is
just
a
little
bit
smaller
at
eight
stories,
but
it
has
signs
on
two
elevations.
Q
Q
I
do
believe
that
we
actually
have
a
representative
from
the
bank
believe
jeremy
gilbert
may
be
dialed
in.
If
he
is
in,
we
can
open
him
up
to
speak
or
he
can
speak
for
the
public.
C
C
Jeremy,
I
guess
I
I
see
your
hand
raised
if
josh
can
put
him
in
his.
R
Hello,
this
is
jeremy
gilbert.
My
address
is
3117
north
36th
street
boise.
R
Yes,
so
just
just
to
caveat
off
of
what
jennifer
said
about
our
request
for
variants
here,
what
we're
seeking
is
to
have
a
variance
to
be
competitive
with
our
the
other
banks
in
boise.
As
you,
as
you
saw
in
the
presentation,
our
tower
is
taller
than
most
buildings
in
boise.
Our
signs
are
smaller
and
we
are
looking
to
bring
our
branding
up
to
standards
with
other
banks
or
other
towers
within
the
the
national
market.
R
C
C
C
So
with
that,
we
will
close
the
public
portion
of
the
testimony
and
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
for
discussion
and
emotion,
so
comments
on
the
application.
I
know
we've
had
similar
discussions
concerning
this
area
before
in
size
of
signs.
Yes,.
C
C
C
Well,
you
know
from
some
of
the
history.
It
seems
like
a
lot
of
the
the
second
point
on
the
design
standard
to
reduce
the
visual
visible
clutter.
You
know
had
a
little
bit
more
to
do
with
monument
signs
and
pylon
signs
and
things
more
down
at
the
pedestrian
level.
Where
you
know
this,
one
probably
has
less
impact
from
a
pedestrian
standpoint.
C
C
H
Think
the
I'm
I'm
in
agreement
with
staff's
recommendation
on
this.
As
we
look
at
the
the
staff
report.
H
The
approval
for
on
the
approval
criteria
for
variances
under
item
the
double
double
I
I
guess
it's
called
they
say.
The
design
principles
for
community
gateways
is
intended
to
guide
future
public
investment
and
ensure
that
development
occurring
in
the
city
within
the
city's
gateway
areas
enhances
rather
than
detracts
from
the
overall
character
of
the
area.
H
H
This
last
sunday,
in
consideration
of
this,
I
I
did
a
drive
around
the
downtown
area
coming
in
from
vista
coming
in
from
the
freeway
coming
in
on
front
street,
and
the
bank
tower
is
only
by
the
time
you
get
if
you're
coming
down
vista
on
capitol
boulevard.
H
The
same
thing
applies
coming
off
the
freeway
when
you
get
to
13th
street
by
the
time
you
get
there
all
the
foreground
buildings
obliterate,
anything
farther
down
on
on
the
background,
so
you're
really
only
capturing
the
the
current
u.s
bank
building
in
its
any
kind
of
a
visibility
way
from
the
the
depot
area
coming
in
and
a
little
bit
on
the
front
street
coming
in
and
off
the
freeway
and
at
those
distances
the
signage
is
barely
readable
and
the
building
is
barely
visible
at
those
distances,
and
so
I'm
for
one
I'm
I'm
very
comfortable
with
the
recommendations
of
staff
as
they
have
it
right
now
and
will
yield
to
others
comments.
G
Mr
chairman,
yes
I
I
would
agree
with
mr
zabala's
comments.
I
do.
I
don't
think
that
the
the
criteria
has
been
met.
The
only
additional
comment
that
I
would
make
in
coming
to
that
conclusion
is
the
under
11
days:
0,
3-0,
4-1,
4
c
down
at
c
and
double
I.
G
I
can't
see
all
of
that
with
the
with
stuff
on
the
the
people
on
the
side,
but
it
it
says,
non-conforming
signs
in
the
vicinity
surrounding
the
subject
site
may
not
be
used
and
then
it's
cut
off,
but
I
assume
basically,
what
that
says
is
and
assuming
once
if
caitlyn,
if
you
can
tell
me
what
the
rest
of
that
sentence
is,
that
would
be
great.
K
Yes,
committee
or
mr
chairman
committee
member
talboy
that
says
non-conforming
signs
in
the
vicinity
surrounding
the
subject
site
may
not
be
used
as
justification
for
special
circumstances.
G
And
that's
what
I
thought
and
it
seems
to
me
that
when
we
you
know
that
and
certainly
we
have
the
corridor
and-
and
so
the
you
know,
by
definition,
the
the
buildings
outside
of
the
corridor
are
just
that
number
one
and
number
two.
Even
if
they
were
non-conforming,
that's
doesn't
create
a
basis
by
which
to
create
a
special
circumstance,
so
I
think
simply
the
application
of
the
of
the
variance
criteria
to
the
request.
G
On
that
basis,
I
don't,
I
don't
think,
there's
grounds
to
grant
that
so
with
that
said,
I
would
agree
with
the
remainder
of
the
comments
of
of
mr
zabala.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
H
Chairman,
based
on
the
analysis
and
findings
of
staff,
I
would
recommend
that
the
design
review
committee
forward
a
recommendation
of
denial
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
of
the
signed
variance
request
to
exceed
the
maximum
assign
area
in
the
capital
boulevard
special
design
district,
based
on
the
lack
of
identification
of
a
hardship
or
exceptional
circumstance
that
cannot
be
readily
applied
to
other
properties
and
conflicts.
C
Thank
you,
mr
dean.
Any
discussion
on
this
motion.
C
L
We
had
a
discussion-
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
remember
when
it
was
about
six
months
ago,
maybe
nine
months
ago,
on
a
similar
sign
on
for
key
bank,
and
I
thought
that,
given
that
they
are,
these
signs
are
in
the
core
of
downtown
on
very
tall
buildings,
that
a
larger
sound
looked
sign,
looked
more
appropriate
than
a
smaller
sign,
and
I
agree
with
that
in
this
case
as
well.
You
know
the
signs
start
to
look
dinky
and,
as
large
of
buildings
are
built,
maybe
maybe
there's
you.
O
L
This
is
the
opportunity
to
revisit
the
sign
ordinance,
but
I
yeah.
I
have
no
issue
with
the
variance.
O
C
Our
sign
ordinance
on
on
this,
but
I
do
believe
some
of
them
were
if
they're
kind
of
facing
pedestrian
traffic
on
the
north,
south
versus
east
west
traffic
as
well
and
proximity
and
heights
to
other
buildings,
which
I
think
was
part
of.
The
variance
on
the
key
bank
was
the
adjacent.
J
Sure,
mr
chairman,
I
have
one
more
thing
to
to
share
when
they
showed
the
image
of
looking
down
capital
boulevard,
the
unique
design
of
that
building.
What
you
end
up
with
looking
down
capitol
bar
boulevard
is
two
of
their
signs
staring
right
at
you,
and
it
just
seems
like
okay,
the
ones
even
one
of
those
signs
is
larger
than
what
the
ordinance
would
say
and
it
you
we
could
have
a
debate
on
whether
that
should
be
there,
but
because
of
the
angle
of
the
building.
L
C
J
Mr
chairman,
I
guess
I
my
comment
would
be
that
isn't
the
proposal
that
they're
bringing
forward
and
if
we
said
that
that's
all
they
were
limited
to
would
they
want
to
redesign
that
and
do
it
in
a
different
way.
It's
like
we're
circumventing
their
process
by
suggesting
that
it
may
be
a
worthy
suggestion
and
if
that's
the
case,
they
should
come
to
us
with
a
proposal
for
that,
but
the
proposal
they've
got
in
front
of
us.
I
I
agree
with
the
staff
report.
I
Mr
chairman,
yes
yeah,
I
agree
too.
I
I
know
which
sign
application
that
committee
member
zuckerman
is
referring
to,
that
we
had
a
discussion
about,
and
it
was
probably
six
months
ago
or
so
on
a
bank
nearby.
At
that
point,
I
I
felt
like
you
know
there
wasn't
criteria
for
a
variance
on
that
one
either.
I
think
I
can't
remember
what
we
ended
up
forwarding
as
a
recommendation
to
planning
and
zoning,
but
that's
what
we're
doing
is
forwarding
a
recommendation
here.
It's
not
we're
not
making
that
decision
right
now.
I
So,
ultimately,
you
know
planning
and
zoning
could
approve
the
signs
as
they
have
them
designed
I
feel
like.
If
they
do
get
denied,
there
is
an
opportunity
for
them
to
return
with
an
alternative
design,
at
which
point
we
can
take
that
up
again
and
have
that
conversation
when
we
have
more
detail
about,
if
there
even
was
an
alternative
design
application
that
was
submitted,
I'm
in
agreement
with
the
other
committee
members
that
it
doesn't
appear
that
there
is
a
justification
for
variance
in
this
case
ether
and
so
I'll,
be
supporting
the
motion.