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A
A
Good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
boise
city
design
review
committee
meeting
a
few
things
to
start
out
with
for
tonight's
proceedings,
everyone
entering
the
public
hearing
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak.
As
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion,
you
will
be
called
upon
and
unmuted.
You
will
then
be
promoted,
panelists
and
will
rejoin
the
meeting
after
a
slight
delay.
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A
B
We
are
the
citizen
volunteers
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
approved
by
city
council.
We
make
final
decisions
on
design
review
permits.
Any
decision
made
tonight
may
be
appealed
to
the
boise
city
planning
its
own
commission,
provided
that
the
appeal
is
filed
within
10
days
of
this
hearing.
In
order
to
file
an
appeal
you
must
have
given
written
or
oral
testimony
at
tonight's
meeting.
So
that's
why
it's
important
to
give
your
name
and
address
when
to
testify
tonight
we
utilize
a
consent
agenda.
B
This
means
that
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report
and
there
is
no
public
opposition.
This
item
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda.
All
items
that
are
placed
on
this
consent
agenda
are
approved
with
one
motion.
Without
further
public
comments
for
items
not
on
the
consent
agenda,
we
will
hold
a
full
public
hearing
in
the
order
on
the
agenda
with
staff,
applicant
and
neighborhood
association
and
then
public
testimony.
B
D
E
E
Mr
chairman,
yes,
I
would
move
for
the
approval
of
the
design
review
committee
minutes
dated
march
10
2021
as
written.
B
Thank
you,
victoria.
Please
call
the
roll.
C
E
E
C
E
B
It's
jay
gibbons,
the
location
is
2850
west
fletcher
street.
This
is
for
the
construction
of
a
new
mixed-use
development
with
358
residential
units
offices,
commercial
space
and
structured
parking
in
three
buildings
from
four
to
seven
stories,
with
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
located
in
a
c5
dd
zone,
and
this
will
be
deferred
to
the
may
12th
hearing.
B
Is
there
any
member
of
the
audience
virtually
or
in
person
that
would
like
to
speak?
That
cannot
make
the
may
12th
period
date
and
if
you
cannot
make
that
day,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
B
Seeing
none,
I
would
take
a
motion
on
the
deferrals.
C
B
C
D
C
D
G
C
G
B
We
have
one
item
to
be
considered
for
tonight's
consent
agenda.
This
item
is
number
two.
It's
zero
seven,
the
location
is
1675.
North
pine
view
lane
it's
for
the
construction
of
a
new,
approximately
fifteen
thousand
nine
hundred
and
forty
square
foot,
single-story
commercial
building
with
associated
site.
B
E
I
would
move
for
approval
of
consent.
Agenda
item
number
two
drh
21
dash.
G
C
B
B
C
I
G
C
G
B
K
J
This
is
a
proposal
for
an
auto
dealership.
It's
located
at
11752,
west
fairview
avenue,
so
the
subject
property
is
slightly
under
one
acre
and
it's
located
at
the
northeast
corner
of
fairview
avenue
and
dawn
place.
We
have
a
mix
of
uses
in
the
area,
including
multi-family
single
family
and
a
mix
of
other
commercial
uses.
J
The
proposal
includes
an
auto
dealership
building,
it's
been
placed
towards
the
rear
of
the
site,
and
then
we
have
the
approximately
30
inventory
stalls
for
the
cars
for
sale
and
then
there's
one
access
from
dawn
place.
The
applicant
is
interested
in
talking
to
the
adjacent
property
owner
to
see
if
they
can
also
get
cross
access
on
the
east,
and
I
think
the
applicant
is
in
agreements
with
all
the
recommended
conditions
except
for
item
number.
J
J
But
looking
at
this
site,
I
think
especially,
we
do
kind
of
want
to
stay
with
that
mixed-use
commercial
design
layout.
We
do
have
a
number
of
residential
developments
that
are
either
recently
built
or
coming
in
soon,
and
then
we
also
have
a
lot
of
existing
neighborhoods
in
the
area
and
the
goals
of
the
comprehensive
plan
want
to
try
to
get
more
people
walking
and
biking
in
this
area.
There's
also
plans
for
a
major
bike
corridor
along
shamrock
where
that
blue
line
is.
J
Then
you
can
kind
of
see
the
zoning
in
the
area
is
a
mix,
but
we
do
have
some
neighborhoods
to
the
south,
the
north,
and
we
have
some
residential
to
the
east
and
west
as
well,
so
to
try
to
connect
all
those
areas
more.
We
want
to
try
to
get
inviting
areas
where
people
are
encouraged
to
walk
and
bike.
J
B
Thank
you
caitlin.
Any
questions
for
staff
from
the
committee
before
we
have
the
applicant
come
forward.
B
C
L
Good
afternoon,
good
evening,
where
am
I
looking
at
here-
it's
good
to
be
here
in
person
and
virtually
we'll
let
caitlyn
set
up
for
a
second.
My
name
is
victor
farrell
with
brs
architects,
I'm
a
project
manager
with
brs
architects
and
where
I'm
going
to
talk
about
pacific
motors,
real
quick
caitlin
did
a
great
job
at
introducing
it.
So
I
will
get
to
the
point
here
quickly:
do
I
have
a
clicker
or
do
you
have
a
clicker.
L
It
okay,
so
again,
victor
ferrell,
vrs,
architects
with
me,
are
manuel
and
omar
reynoso,
who
are
the
owners
pacific
motors.
They
do
have
a
current
location
on
fairview.
We're
gonna
get
right
to
it.
Next
slide,
please
so
the
objective
the
client's
goal
is
to
move
into
a
new
automobile
truck
dealership,
that
is,
that
can
house
their
sales
operations
and
vehicle
maintenance
shop
needs
while
showcasing
their
inventory,
allowing
fairview
to
capitalize
on
the
property's
street
frontage.
I
mean
what
that
means.
L
Is
that
the
reason
they
got
this
property
is
to
be
able
to
showcase
their
their
cars
right
and
we'll
go
over
a
few
points
in
a
few
examples,
caitlin,
so
real,
quick.
We
are
all
familiar
with
where
it's
at
next
next
slide.
Please
here's
a
zoomed
in
view
of
it,
you
could
see
the
parcel
highlighted
with
the
adjacent
commercial
uses
and
residential
as
caitlyn
described
next
slide.
L
So
this
is
how
it
looks
real,
quick
to
the
north
that
whole
site
is
already
developed.
Then
fairview
apartments,
next
right
next
to
them
to
the
east.
Again
another
view.
Looking
east,
you
see
the
fairview
apartments,
but
just
beyond
that
is
the
spangler
brothers,
auto
body
next
to
the
to
the
south,
another
auto
care,
brewster
shuttle
care
and
a
glass
company
and
to
the
west
as
you,
the
existing
sidewalk.
You
can
see
that
there's
another
set
of
apartments
and
I
think
they're
called
clover,
feel
not
clover
leaf
next
place.
L
We've
discussed
this.
We
will
I'll
go
into
a
more
depth.
Why
we
want
the
building
to
remain.
You
guys
are
familiar
with
this
site.
We
we
want
to
maximize
the
use
of
fairview
and
north
dawn
place,
be
able
to
showcase
other
cars,
all
the
trucks
we
have.
The
buildings
there
on
the
north
slightly
on
the
east
end
not
only
to
create
a
space
for
their
office
and
for
their
maintenance,
but
also
create
a
private
area
in
that
corner
to
beautiful.
L
You
know,
beautify
the
site
to
hide
any
of
that
kind
of
behind-the-scenes
work.
And
obviously
you
know
it's
not
the
first
thing
people
are
going
to
see
they're
going
to
see
the
cars
you
can
see
the
building
and
maybe
they're
going
to
see
that
bullpen
area
next
slide.
L
L
You
know,
I
understand
that
there's
some
mixed
use
around
that
area,
but
I
really
think
that
it
could
be
very
positive
for
them
on
the
business
point
of
view,
while
following
what
a
commercial,
what
a
commercial
zone
is
the
users
for
a
commercial
zone?
L
Next
some
examples
again,
I
understand
there's
some
residential
mixed
uses
in
that
area,
but
we
do
have
some
very
close
neighbors
with
chevrolet
pearson,
auto
group
maverick
car
company
and
larry's
subaru.
I
realized
that
some
of
these
are
much
bigger
scale,
much
bigger
sites,
but
the
the
point
I
want
to
make
is,
as
we
look
through.
These
examples
like
maverick
car
company
next
place,
is
how
they
treat
the
site
right.
This
is
approximately
being
four
to
five
acres.
Big.
L
The
building
is
not
set
as
close
to
the
sidewalk
close
to
the
property
line.
As
you
can
see
there,
there's
even
there's
a
sidewalk
vehicles
displayed
a
little
bit
of
room
for
landscape
and
then
then
the
building
next
slide
again
same
thing
here,
with
chevrolet
peterson
you'll
you'll
have
landscape,
you
have
the
cars,
you
have
the
trucks
and
then
the
building
with
this
one,
the
building
entry
is
actually
about
140
feet
from
the
property
line.
L
Next
slide,
please.
This
is
just
on
that
side.
Road
next
to
subaru,
which
I
think
is
called
steelwood,
drive
again
the
idea
that
you
have
a
space
for
vehicles,
a
space
for
pedestrians,
landscape
and
then
inventory
the
cars
right
next
slide,
which
I
think
this
is
very
similar
to
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
You
are
walking
down
fairview,
there's
a
little
jog
in
the
landscape.
You
have
this
sidewalk,
which
looks
rather
new
newer
than
the
rest
around
it.
L
You
have
your
landscape,
you
have
your
inventory,
you
have
your
drive,
aisles,
more
inventory,
more
drive,
islands
and,
finally,
the
building
and
even
some
more
cars
to
look
in
front
of
the
building
right.
So
again,
this
is
a
dealership.
I
don't
think
that
what's
facing
fairview
and
was
facing
north
on
came
necessarily
called
parking
because
you're
displaying
what
you're
gonna
sell
you're,
not
there
temporarily,
these
cars
are
there
well,
hopefully
not
temporarily
right.
The
owners
want
to
want
to
sell
the
cars,
but
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
parking
lot.
L
It's
not
a
a
place
that
people
are
going
to
come
and
just
park
and
stay
there
and
and
and
be
ugly
right,
like
I
was
saying
earlier,
they're
going
to
have
a
full
shop
to
fix
their
cars.
They're
going
to
have
an
area
to
wash
the
cars
down
clean
them
up,
make
them
presentable.
It
is
their!
You
know
it's
their
business,
it's
their
inventory.
They
want
them
to
look
good.
They
weren't
able
to
sell
someone
like
you
and
me
a
good
looking
car
next
slide.
L
Please,
and
then
we
come
back
to
this
site
plan
which
you're
already
familiar
with
again
vehicles
along
fairview
and
north
dawn,
with
multiple
options
for
for
parking,
an
opportunity
to
display
cars
even
inside
of
the
inside.
The
building
next
slide
landscape.
Let's
pull
for
the
landscape
plan,
you
will
see
that
we
comply
with
alaska
requirements.
L
We
have
these
landscape
islands
all
throughout
the
the
the
property
and
these
two
you
know
major
landscape
islands
on
the
south
end
that
guide
people
guide
pedestrians
to
the
main
entry
or
to
two
points
you
know
to
get
to
the
building
one
in
the
main
entry,
one
at
the
rear
and
yeah
again,
just
an
effort
to
connect
with
fairview
in
in
this
manner
beautify
the
area
and
again,
ultimately
help
the
the
clients
help.
L
The
property
owners
have
a
successful
business
with
what
they
intended
to
to
do
to
have
cars
be
showcased,
just
like
their
neighbors.
Next,
I
think.
That's
it.
Oh
the
conclusion
again,
you
know
the
land
purchase
was
strategic
to
capitalize
on
a
commercial
park
or
a
commercial
parcel
on
fairview
lots
of
traffic,
lots
of
people,
uninterrupted
views
of
the
vehicles
right
with
minimal
whatever's
required
trees
and
landscape,
and
your
your
sight
lighting,
but
again
showcasing.
L
As
you
see
those
examples,
the
vehicles
building
very
similar
to
its
neighbors,
where
it's
class
placed
on
the
site
and
again
ultimately
having
an
area
for
the
owners
in
that
northeast
corner
to
to
do
maintenance
and
to
clean
up
the
cars
and
to
wash
them
and
get
them
ready,
and
I
believe
that
is
it.
B
Well,
thank
you
very
much.
Are
there
questions
for
the
applicant
from
the
committee's
assignment.
D
Part
of
your
presentation,
which
showed
the
location
of
this
project
in
relationship
to
the
other
dealerships
around
there.
In
so,
and
can
you
okay,
that's
perfect?
Now
I
can
see
it
so.
D
Okay,
so
you
are,
your
project
is:
if
I've
got
my
directions
correct,
you
would
be
east
of
larry
miller
or
you
would
be
west
or
larry
miller
and
east
of
peterson
and
maverick,
or
do
I
have
my
directions
backwards.
D
Okay
and
as
far
as
distance
wise,
how
far
you
know
roughly
how
far
your
project
is
from,
say,
larry
miller
and
then
from
maverick
is
probably
a
good
one.
Half
a
mile
mile.
D
Okay
and
then
with
those
with
those
sites,
the
one
I
can
see
with
with
show
with
peterson
looks
like
there's
some
residential
stuff,
there's
residential
behind
the
dealership.
Is
that
the
same
with
maverick
and
with
larry
miller,
I
can't
see
your
whole
slide.
That's
why.
L
Maybe
caitlyn
can
elaborate,
but
trevor
peterson
does
have
a
residential
looks
like
directly
behind
it.
Larry
h,
miller
looks
a
little
bit
more
more
isolated
in
the
island
of
commercial,
and
I
think
maverick
to
the
south
of
maverick
would
be
another,
probably
residential.
L
It's
an
r2d
is
whatever
that's
pulled
from
the
ada
county,
assessor.
So,
okay,.
D
L
Another
residential
area.
D
All
right
and
your
and
then
your
site,
relative,
the
the
nearest
things,
are
the
apartment
buildings
across
don
drive.
Is
that
right.
L
There's
apartments
directly
to
the
north
and
directly
to
the
west,
okay,
yeah,
and
we
can
choke,
show
those
again
if
you
want
to.
But
yes.
B
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify
to
this
either
in
public
or
virtually?
If
you
would
raise
your
hand.
I
B
I
believe
we
can
keep
this
open
just
in
case.
We
want
to
bring
the
applicant
up
again
for
any
other
questions.
So
if
you
do
have
some
questions
for
staff.
G
Okay,
I'm
not
sure
if
this
question
is
appropriate
for
josh
or
for
caitlyn,
but
the
representative
of
the
applicant
stated
that
the
applicant
bought
this
parcel
in
order
to
build
a
car
dealership.
G
Did
I'm
I'm
assuming
the
zoning
did
not
change
and
that
the
applicant
should
have
known
what
the
zoning
was
and
what's
permitted
at
that
zone
on
that
zoning?
My
question:
is
it
looked
like
two
of
those
dealerships
were
meridian
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
but
that
for
other
car
dealerships?
Is
there
a
precedent
for
a
variance
to
allow
the
car
dealership
to
sit
back
at
the
property,
because
none
of
the
car
dealerships
along
fairview
comply
with
any
kind
of
commercial
design
standards.
J
J
They
made
a
similar
request
to
have
the
building
have
like
a
display
area
in
front,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
their
display
area,
but
it's
I
don't
know
if
you
can
really
see
it
here,
but
they
have
like
a,
I
think,
approximately
like
three
or
four
cars
generally
in
front
of
the
building,
so
they
do
have
kind
of
limited
display
in
front.
So
that
might
be
an
alternative.
G
Thank
you.
My
question
is
really
you
know.
Is
it
reasonable
for
the
applicant
to
have
purchased
this
property
with
the
assumption
that
the
variance
would
be
granted
or
is
this
you
know
sort
of
lack
of
information
on
the
applicant?
I
I
recognize
that
it's
really
hard
to
sell
cars
without
putting
cars
in
front
of
a
building.
G
The
other
question
I
have,
which
is
more
of
a
rhetorical
question,
is
you
know
our?
Are
people
inclined
to
walk
along
for
a
view,
regardless
of
whether
this
building
is
set
back
or
not?
I'm
not
sure
I've
passed
it
many
times,
but
I
can't
picture
any
pedestrian
uses.
I
don't
remember
anything
there
being
pedestrian
friendly.
G
So
I'm
not
sure
this
would
affect
the
pedestrian
experience
there
and
the
proposed
bikeway
along
shamrock
is
too
far
away
for
this.
The
design
of
this
frontage
to
affect
the
cycling
experience.
G
So
yeah
caitlin,
the
the
red
roofs
that
we
see
between
dawn,
place
and
and
bryson,
is
that
a
strip
mall.
J
J
Probably
some
of
the
recent
stuff
that
went
in
down
here
is
like
a
starbucks
and
there's
the
bank,
and
then
this
is
multi-family.
This
is
multi-family.
J
These
are
coming
in
now
these
are
town
homes,
and
then
these
are
going
to
be
town
homes.
Here.
G
Thank
you.
So
I
I
guess
that
answers
my
question
about
whether
the
setback
of
this
building
would
at
all
change
the
pedestrian
experience,
and
it
looks
to
me
like
it
wouldn't,
and
it
also
looks
to
me
like
it
would
be
a
hardship
and
a
departure
from
the
rest
of
the
fairview
corridors.
Car
dealerships.
If
we
did
not
grant
the
applicant
permission
to
keep
the
building
further
set
back
and
I'm.
B
Done
I
believe
you
stated
that
there's
the
opportunity
to
do
a
a
departure
for
compliance
for
moving
that
building
back
and
there's.
Basically
some
supplemental
landscaping
or
something
can
you
maybe
just
go
over
that
option.
J
Yeah,
mr
chairman,
the
so
the
maverick
they
have
like
a
plaza
kind
of
area
where
they
park
a
few
cars
in
front
of
the
building,
and
then
they
have
some
nicer
landscape
around
that
area.
J
Currently,
the
applicant
for
this
project
has
a
little
display
ramp
area
at
the
corner,
so
they
could
like
keep
both
the
ramp
at
the
corner
and
then
add
a
little
display
area
in
front
of
the
building
or
do
the
display
area
instead
of
the
ramp.
Those
would
be
two
options
that
we've
seen
previously.
F
Yes,
mr
simple
yeah,
I
guess
I'm
it's
sort
of
along
the
same
lines
as
committee
member
zuckerman,
the
peterson
chevrolet,
that's
down
at
cloverdale
and
fairview
on
the
same
side,
they're,
obviously
not
meeting
the
design
review
guidelines
because
they
have,
I
don't
know
three
or
four
rows
of
parking
between
the
street
and
their
building,
I'm
just
wondering
if
they
were
held
to
that
were
they
in
a
design
review
overlay.
I
know
it
was
built.
F
J
Yeah,
mr
chairman
committee
member
sample,
I'm
not
sure
of
the
specifics,
but
I
think
they
did
do
kind
of
an
increased
landscape
area
in
front
and
then
I
think
they
they've
probably
come.
I
think
they
added
that
parking
lot
on
the
adjacent
parcel
too.
So
I
think
they
they've
probably
been
through
a
couple
design
review
applications,
but
I
imagine
that
first
one
was
a
committee
level
and
I'm
I'm
guessing.
It
was
the
landscape.
They
probably
provided
increased
landscaping.
B
This
time,
I
would
invite
the
applicant
back
to
make
any
final
comments
that
they.
B
L
Yes,
thank
you
I'll.
Take
the
opportunity
to
speak
real,
quick.
I
am
a
fan
of
your
guys's
conversation
again.
The
the
point
of
the
point
of
the
presentation
was
to
showcase
other
examples
and
over
of
how
dealerships
are
all
along
fairview.
L
Those
three
are
the
closest
one
to
the
parcel
in
review,
and
that
is
some
of
the
other
examples
that
kaelin
brought
up
was
like
the
new
starbucks
and
there's
a
new
iccu
bank,
and
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that
even
those
buildings
as
beautiful
as
screening
as
they
have
based
in
fairview,
there's
no
entry
off
their
view
into
some
of
these
other
types
of
businesses
right
these
banks,
these
restaurants,
starbucks
coffee
shops,
it
favors
a
drive-through
right
there
in
front
of
subaru,
the
laboratory,
subaru
so
and
yes
walking
up.
L
I
took
those
photos
walking
up
and
down
fairview
and
it's
even
though
the
cars
are
about
15
feet
away,
they're
still,
some
of
those
trucks
sound
really
close,
so
I
probably
just
saw
two
other
people
walking
around
fairview
in
the
40
45
minutes.
I
was
out
there
walking
from
one
point
to
the
other
just
experiencing
a
fear
of
you
experiencing
the
sidewalks,
because
it
is,
it
is
well
sidewalked,
it's
just
not
used
so
again.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
your
time.
L
Thank
you
guys
for
considering
this,
and
I
hope
that
there
is
a
favorable
resolution
to
our
proposal
to
maintain
the
building
where
it's
at.
Thank
you
thank.
B
You
with
that
we'll
close
the
public
portion
of
the
testimony,
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
for
discussion
and
caitlyn.
Do
you
mind
bringing
up
the
site
plan
again
at
this
time,
and
just
just
to
be
clear?
Caitlyn
no
departures
are
actually
have
been
sought
for
this
particular
condition
at
this
time.
Is
that
correct.
J
Mr
chairman
is
your
question
as
if
they
specifically
asked
for
a
departure.
E
J
They
did
not
provide,
I
don't
think
the
wording
departure,
but
we
did
have
a
conversation
previously
about
requesting
a
departure.
So
I
think
that
was
their
intent
when
they
applied.
G
B
Yeah
a
couple
of
comments
on
that
yeah.
What
probably
makes
this
unique
even
to
what
maverick
did
down
the
street
is.
This
is
a
pretty
small
parcel.
It's
really
pretty
darn
shallow
compared
to
most
others.
B
So
some
of
the
opportunity
for
development
with
the
building
up
against
the
street,
I
think
is,
could
be
problematic.
Additionally,
it
kind
of
starts
to
push
the
inventory.
That
also
has
some
lighting
for
those
cars
that
all
that's
now
going
to
be
pushed
closer
to
the
residential
that's
directly
to
the
north.
B
The
building
is
located
to
the
south,
so
my
personal
opinion
is
it's:
it's
probably
a
decent
layout
for
the
site
constraints
that
they're
that
they're
working
with
but
be
open
to
listening
to
hear
what
other
committee
members
opinions
are
or
if
somebody
wants
to
make
a
motion.
D
Mr
chairman,
yes,
if
I
may,
I
I
have
to
admit,
I
was
fully
prepared
to
go
along
with
with
the
recommendations
of
of
staff.
D
However,
after
looking
at
the
the
other
businesses
on
the
on
fairview,
looking
at
and
listening
to
the
comments
by
by
you
that
you
just
made
those
of
committee
members
zuckerman
and
of
committee
member
simple,
I
agree
with
you.
D
I
originally
thought
that,
like
I
said,
I
was
not
in
favor,
because
I
don't,
like
the
you
know,
to
move
away
from
those
things,
but
I
hate
to
see
an
economic
or
perceived
or
otherwise
disadvantage
to
you
know
a
similar
business,
and
I
agree
with
you,
mr
chairman,
that
I
and
I
would
defer
to
you
folks
that
are
that
are
architects,
knowing
what
site
plans
and
things
look
like
that.
I
think
the
size
of
this.
The
constraints
of
this
lot
are
such
that
I
don't
know
that
you
could.
D
I
mean
personally
looking
at
it,
that
you
can
really
move
the
building
around
to
accomplish
anything
better
than
what
I
think
is
really
a
pretty
good
plan.
So
you
know
my
feeling
is
the
way
it
is,
and
the
request
of
the
applicant
is
really
what
I
like.
So
thank
you.
E
Mr
chairman,
yes,
I
would
concur
with
mr
cowboys
and
mr
zugerman's
comments
as
well
as
yours.
E
On
this
I
looked
at
just
casually
sliding
that
building
forward
to
take
away
those
seven
spots
in
front
and
and
looking
at
the
resulting
site
and
pedestrian
circulation,
that
you
would
anticipate
in
a
normal
car
purchasing
car
seeking
venture
by
a
client
and
it
just
to
me
it
looks
like
the
the
site
circulation.
The
pedestrian
circulation
would
just
just
doesn't
work.
E
The
site
is
just
too
narrow
and
too
complicated
and
with
only
what
appears
to
be
a
30
car
inventory,
removing
those
seven
cars
in
the
front
reduces
their
at
least
their
visible
capacity
along
the
frontage
there
by
about
23
percent-
and
I
think
it's
just
it
just
doesn't
work
it's
just
it's
a
well-designed
little
building.
I
think
the
architect,
design
team
and
the
client
have
done
a
good
job
with
really
getting
10
pounds
in
a
5
pound
bag.
E
So
I
would
be
in
favor
of
removing
that
criteria
from
the
conditions
of
approval.
B
G
G
That
being
said,
this
is
not
an
urban
environment,
it
is
boise
street
where
we
have
car
dealerships,
and
every
city
needs
a
street
like
that,
because
people
need
to
buy
cars
somewhere,
and
because
of
that,
I
feel
like
this
is
the
appropriate
layout
for
the
appropriate
setting
and
looking
at
the
other
dealerships,
not
just
from
the
renderings
but
from
the
ones
we're
all
familiar
with
from
going
down
fairview
this
one,
because
it's
so
small
looks
like
it
will
feel
a
lot
neater,
because
there's
only
one
row
of
cars
against
the
street
or
at
least
against
the
sidewalk,
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
you
know
I
think
the
pedestrian
experience
is
very
important
and
always
worth
considering,
but
I
just
don't
see
fairview
ever
becoming
a
popular
pedestrian
way,
regardless
of
how
many
neighborhoods
are
built
around
there.
G
F
F
It
creates
a
strange
pattern
of
traffic
through
the
site
and
basically
eliminates
their
employee
parking,
their
bullpen
area
for
storage
of
vehicles,
as
well
as
their
service
area
of
the
building,
and
would
require
the
dumpster
enclosure.
That's
on
the
site,
as
currently
designed
to
be
located
somewhere
else
that
you
know,
I
think
it
opens
up
a
whole
other
design
problem
with
sliding
that
forward.
I
understand
the
the
design
review
code
intent,
you
know,
and
committee
member
zuckerman
talked
about
it
too.
F
You
know
enhancing
the
pedestrian
experience
is
very
important
in
areas
that
have
a
pedestrian
experience.
This
really
doesn't
I
mean
I
know
that
we're
look.
We
need
to
look
long
term
as
well,
but
there's
multiple
other
recently
built
dealerships
that
have
much
further
departures
from
the
design
intent
of
the
code
than
this
one
does.
F
You
know,
I
think
they
lose
15
spots
if
they
try
to
redesign
this
on
the
site
and
that's
just
looking
at
it
briefly,
but
so
yeah.
I
think
that
the
current
site
really
maximizes
the
use
is
important
for
the
the
owners,
inventory
and
they've
really
done
a
good
job
at
kind
of
fitting
it
all
in
there
so
yeah,
I
think,
eliminating
that
condition
requiring
them
to
slide.
The
building
forward
is
probably
the
appropriate
thing
to
do
here.
B
Thank
you,
mr
simple
seems
like
the
committee's
pretty
much
in
agreement
with
that.
Is
anybody
willing
to
put
forth
a
motion.
B
B
And
seconded
any
discussion
on
the
motion
hearing
none
victoria,
please
call
rome.
C
B
C
E
C
E
B
Thank
you
next
item
to
be
heard
tonight.
This
can
be
item
number
four
item.
Number
four
is
drh20091.
The
location
is
313
south
orchard
street.
It's
for
the
construction
of
a
mixed
mixed-use
development,
with
five
buildings
containing
205
residential
units
and
ground
floor
commercial
space,
including
associated
site
improvements
in
a
pcd
zone,
and
with
this
I'll
turn
it
over
to
josh.
For
the
report.
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
commission.
As
stated,
this
is
a
proposal
for
a
mixed-use
housing
development
at
the
southwest
corner
of
franklin
orchard
on
a
city-owned
property
being
developed
in
conjunction
with
the
applicant
team.
It's
a
site
that
has
gained
quite
a
bit
of
enthusiasm
in
the
city,
a
lot
of
neighborhood
support,
and
it's
a
really
great
project
that
the
city
is
super
excited
to
move
forward
with
I'll
keep
my
presentation
fairly
brief.
Tonight.
A
The
site
is
the
location
of
the
old
franklin
elementary
school
that
has
been
vacant
for
a
number
of
years
and
through
some
negotiations
with
the
school
district,
was
acquired
by
the
city
with
a
project.
Just
like
this
in
mind,
a
3.3
acre
community
park
franklin
park
has
been
developed
on
the
southwest
corner
of
the
site,
with
the
remaining
vacant.
L-Shaped
land
kind
of
wrapping
that
intersection
being
made
available
for
the
proposed
development.
A
There
are
two
mixed-use
buildings
along
the
street
frontage,
a
very
a
large
l-shaped
building
that
wraps
the
corner
and
then
another
building
to
the
west
along
franklin,
then
some
walk-up
residential
units
have
been
proposed
along
franklin
park,
taking
advantage
of
that
green
space
to
front
on
to
and
then
finally,
there
is
a
single
story:
clubhouse
and
a
mixed
use,
building
proposed
at
the
south
of
the
site
along
orchard
street,
again
fronting
onto
franklin
park
with
some
adjacent
parking.
A
The
I
did
distribute
a
memo
to
the
committee
today
that
modified
one
of
the
conditions
of
approval
in
reference
to
sidewalks
on
franklin
orchard
street.
The
pedestrian
commercial
zone
has
some
requirements
for
increased
width
and
public
sidewalks
with
planner
strips
on
this
project.
A
A
So
I
would
propose
that
that
condition
of
approval
be
modified,
as
proposed
in
in
the
memo
distributed
today,
that
the
applicant
shall
work
with
design
review
staff
to
identify
areas
on
franklin
and
orchard
street,
both
where
the
public
sidewalk
can
be
widened
in
accordance
with
the
pc
standards,
but
not
negatively
impact
existing
trees
proposed
trees
and
then
some
proposed
landscaping
along
the
building.
A
H
H
This
project,
like
josh,
said,
has
been
about
a
year-long
process.
So
far
the
city
issued
an
rfp
last
spring.
We
responded
and
we
were
fortunate
to
be
selected
as
the
preferred
developer.
As
a
part
of
that
process.
We
worked
closely
with
the
staff
we
worked
closely
with
folks
in
the
neighborhood,
had
several
outreach
meetings
built
upon
the
outreach
that
the
city
had
already
done
and
and
worked
collaboratively
to
design
a
project
that
really
fit
the
needs
and
desires
of
the
neighborhood
as
we
as
we
understood
them
as
a
part
of
that
process.
H
You
know
we
got
to
the
result
we
have
today,
we've
been
through
the
rezone
we've
been
through
the
planning
commission
we've
been
to
the
city
council,
so
we
feel,
like
we've,
heard
a
lot
of
feedback.
We
feel
like
we've
absorbed
that
feedback,
and
you
know
we
feel
like
we're
in
the
home
stretch,
just
a
few
minor
things
to
to
get
through
and
then
we're
on
hoping
to
be.
Building
in
the
in
the
summertime,
I
also
have
the
rest
of
my
team
here
tonight.
H
B
I
Oh
well,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
I
had
seen
the
early
designs
of
this
project
and
participated
in
one
of
the
early
public
comments
and
one
of
the
things
that
concerned
me
was
the
orchard
street
bus
route
and
whether
or
not
they
could
notch
the
sidewalk
and
accommodate
the
buses
rather
than
blocking
the
street,
and
I
believe
the
transportation
staff
had
had
looked
at
that
and
had
considered
it.
But
I
don't
see
it
in
the
drawing.
I
That's
one
comment
I
think
also
the
the
ground
floor.
Retail
space
is
is
very
desirable.
I'm
working
with
the
team
to
do
a
mobility
facility
similar
to
the
boise
bicycle
project,
to
recycle
electric
vehicles,
so,
whether
it's
a
scooter
or
electric
wheelchair
or
a
bicycle.
I
I
believe
the
community
is
now
in
need
of
a
service
center
and
I've
talked
to
the
developer
about
the
opportunity
of
of
being
considered
to
be
in
that
retail
space.
I
think
it's
a
great
project
and
I
hope
that
when
it's
built
it
accommodates.
I
You
know
the
kind
of
the
green
space,
not
just
the
grass
but
solar
energy
and
and
those
kinds
of
things,
but
I
would
like
to
see
whether
or
not
the
bus
route
could
could
not
block
the
traffic
and
and
kind
of
have
its
own.
You
know
turn
in
turn
out
on
orchard.
A
Yes,
mr
chairman,
thank
you.
I
went
ahead
and
zoomed
in
on
the
site
plan
and
got
that
displayed
it's
it's
a
rather
large
site
and
at
the
scale
it
was
previously.
You
know,
certainly
understandable.
Things
are
very
hard
to
see.
You
do
see
near
the
intersection
of
franklin
orchard.
There
is
the
proposed
vrt
bus
stop
pad.
That
would
be
for
the
shelter
and
for
the
waiting
area.
For
folks
there
is
not
a
pull-out
lane
proposed.
A
I
think
there
are
some
site
constraints
that
would
make
that
make
that
difficult
and
they-
and
I
don't
know
I
I
guess
I
would
actually
leave
that
up
to
the
applicant-
to
see
if
that
was
proposed
to
achd
and
not
and
did
not
receive
a
favorable
recommendation.
I
was
was
not
involved
in
that
stage
of
the
conversations,
but
the
bus
stop
has
been
provided
there
just
without
the
actual
pull
out
lane
for
the
bus.
B
Thank
you,
josh.
Well,
we'll
get
back
to
the
applicant
in
a
moment,
but
with
this
is
there
any
other
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify
tonight
either
in
person
or
virtually
virtually?
Please
raise
your
hand.
Let
me
know
josh.
If
there's
anybody
there
in
person.
B
Seen
no
raised
hands
at
this
time.
We
bring
it
back
to
the
applicants
for
any
further
remarks.
H
Sure
thanks,
I
appreciate
harley
showing
up
and
offering
his
support.
We
have
had
a
lot
of
great
communications
with
him
and
his
business
sounds
very
interesting
and
we
look
forward
to
furthering
the
conversation
with
him
as
we
get
closer.
H
As
far
as
the
bus
is
concerned,
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
working
closely
with
achd
and
designing
the
all
of
the
traffic
flow
in
and
around
our
site,
and
this
was
the
configuration
that
they
thought
worked
well,
we
thought
it
worked
well,
so
we
went
through
several
iterations
with
them
and
they,
you
know,
as
I'm
sure,
as
you
all
know,
achd
is
very
particular
about
the
way
that
they
see
traffic
flowing
in
and
around
the
city
and
the
county,
and
so
we
deferred
to
them,
and
this
was
the
design
that
they
thought
worked
well.
B
Okay,
with
that,
we'll
close
the
public
portion
of
the
testimony
bring
back
to
the
committee
for
any
discussion
and
emotion.
B
K
Just
a
couple
comments,
I'm
really
pleased
with
this
proposal
and
looking
forward
to
approving
it
tonight.
I
just
have
one
possible
suggestion
for
an
additional
condition
that
I
think
is
pretty
minor.
K
It's
my
current
understanding
that
this
project's
only
providing
75
parking
spots
for
bicycles,
and
I
think
this
intersection.
This
area
is
great
for
pedestrian,
walking
and
biking,
and
it
has
what
200
plus
units-
and
you
know
if
half
of
that
was
occupied
with
one
bike-
and
I
assume
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
families
in
this
development.
Eventually,
I'm
just
concerned
about
bicycle
storage
or
parking
facilities
for
bikes.
K
But
I
know
some
other
jurisdictions
prefer
not
to
do
the
pull-out,
as
the
gentleman
was
not
inquiring
about
earlier,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
when
the
buses
used
to
pull
out
a
lot
of
times.
They
can't
get
out
so
they'd
rather
stop
traffic
load
the
passengers
and
then
they
they're
in
the
lane
and
they
can
move
forward.
So
that
might
be
a
possible
reason,
but
again,
I'm
not
speaking
for
any
local
jurisdiction.
I
know
that
that's
the
specific
case
here
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say
thanks.
B
Thank
you
good
comments
to
consider
for
tonight
other
comments
or
questions
from
committee
members.
G
I'm
thrilled
with
the
layout
of
the
development.
I
very
much
appreciate
the
developer,
coming
forward
with
an
l-shaped
design
that
follows
the
contours
of
the
sidewalk
and
addresses
the
street
directly.
F
I
just
had
one
quick
addition.
Also,
I
I
like
it
looks
like
the
majority
of
this
of
the
parking
on
the
site
is
tuck
under
or
semi-structured
parking
with,
that
raised
pedestrian
walkway.
That,
I
think,
is
a
really
good
solution
in
here.
The
only
thing
that
looked
like
in
some
of
the
renderings
there
was
some
landscaping
planter
bed
or
planter
boxes
or
something
along
that
walkway.
F
So
I
would
just
encourage
the
applicant
to
try
to
incorporate
as
much
landscape
interior
to
that
parking
lot
as
they
can.
I
know
that
maximizing
parking
is
a
big
deal
too
I'm
in
agreement
with
the
recommendation
for
trying
to
find
some
more
bike
parking.
Also,
that's
really.
I
really
like
the
project.
I
think
it
lays
out
really
well
also.
F
I
live
not
too
far
from
here,
so
I'm
excited
to
see
something
other
than
a
giant
patch
of
weeds
growing
on
the
corner
there,
and
you
know
something
that
does
address
the
the
pedestrian
experience
within
this
area.
There's
a
lot
of
people
walking
around
here
with
fred
meyer
across
the
street.
There's
some
other
service
oriented
businesses
around
here
that
I
think
this
will
be
very,
very
beneficial
for
the
area.
F
J
B
Anybody
willing
to
put
together
a.
B
B
Looks
like
we
have
pretty
good
support.
I
think
the
only
question
for
consideration
is
jessica's
additional.
D
Mr
chairman,
was
that
a
request
to
make
that
a
specific
condition
by
ms
aguilar,
or
was
it
a
an
observation.
B
K
A
Mr
chairman
committee,
member
aguilar,
there
is
the
I
think,
there's
one
thing
to
consider
is
that
there
is
the
proposed
bicycle
parking
in
the
racks,
and
then
there
is
also
the
individual
little
storage
rooms
that
are
proposed
around
the
perimeter
parking
lot.
That
could
also
be
used
for
resident
bike
storage
and
there
are
a
number
of
those.
So
you
know
without
getting
into
exact
numbers,
I
think
the
actual
number
is
higher
than
75.
A
I
don't
think
it
probably
approaches
the
you
know
the
210,
the
number
of
units,
but
there's
probably
a
little
bit
more
than
than
is
shown.
F
Mr
chairman,
yes,
I
would
move
for
approval
of
drh
21-091,
as
recommended
in
the
findings
of
fact,
conclusions
of
law
and
recommended
conditions
of
approval
noted
in
the
project
report,
including
the
memo
dated
april
14
2021
that
was
modifying
the
recommended
condition
of
approval
1b.
B
G
B
Hearing
none
victoria,
you
please
call
the
roll.