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From YouTube: Design Review Committee - 8/12/2020
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B
C
C
Well,
mr
chairman,
it's
six
o'clock,
but
I
think
we're
still
waiting
on
committee
member
cowboy,
if
you
just
want
to
give
it
a
minute.
C
C
All
right
good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
boise
city
design,
review
committee
meeting
a
few
things
to
start
out
with
for
tonight's
proceedings.
Everyone
from
the
public
entering
the
hearing
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak.
As
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion,
you
will
be
called
upon
and
unmuted.
C
C
Our
procedures
for
public
hearings
begin
with
a
presentation
from
the
planning
team,
then
we'll
go
to
the
applicant
and
then
the
representative
of
the
registered
neighborhood
association,
followed
by
questions
from
the
commission
after
that,
we'll
proceed
to
public
testimony,
starting
with
those
who
signed
up
on
the
online
sign
up
sheet
in
advance
and
then
anyone
else
who
raises
their
hand
virtually
if
you
are
attending
through
your
telephone,
you
can
type
in
star
nine
to
raise
your
hand
again.
That's
star
nine.
Each
member
of
the
public
is
allowed
up
to
three
minutes
of
testimony.
C
C
C
D
You
josh,
I
would
like
to
call
the
august
12
2020
design,
review
committee
meeting
to
order.
We
are
the
citizen
volunteers
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
approved
by
city
council.
We
make
final
decisions
on
design
review
permits.
Any
decision
made
tonight
will
be
appealed
to
the
boise
city
planning
and
zoning
commission,
provided
that
the
appeal
is
filed
within
10
days
of
the
hearing.
In
order
to
file
an
appeal
you
must
have
given
written
or
oral
testimony
at
tonight's
meeting.
D
So
that's
why
it's
important
to
give
your
name
and
address
when
you
testify
tonight,
we
utilize
a
consent
agenda.
This
means
that
if
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report-
and
there
is
no
public
opposition,
the
item
will
be
placed
on
the
constitution.
All
items
that
are
placed
on
the
consent
agenda
are
approved
with
one
motion.
Without
further
public
comment
for
items
not
on
the
consent
agenda,
we
will
hold
a
full
public
hearing
in
the
order
on
the
agenda
with
staff,
applicant
neighborhood
association
and
then
public
testimony.
E
D
B
E
D
E
F
D
Thank
you
very
much
tonight
we
have
seven
items
to
be
considered
for
tonight's
consent
agenda.
The
first
item
to
be
considered
for
tonight's
consent
agenda
is
item
number
one.
It's
drh20-00052,
the
location
is
2919
west
jordan
street.
It's
to
construct
a
multi-family
residential
project
consisting
of
two
four-story
buildings
containing
eight
units
with
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
property
in
an
r3d
zone
is
the
applicant
present.
G
D
D
So
you
know,
this
item
will
be
moved
to
the
constant
agenda.
The
second
item
we'll
be
considering
for
tonight's
consent
agenda,
is
item
number
three.
It's
drh20-00262
eric
anderson
location
is
10
390
west
8th
street
to
construct
an
approximately
5
100
square
foot,
laundromat,
building
and
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
in
a
pcd
zone.
D
D
Is
there
anyone
wishing
to
testify
in
opposition
to
this
item?
If
you
would
please
raise
your
hand
virtually.
C
Mr
chairman,
I
do
not,
I
believe
we
had
a
member
of
the
public
sign
up
before
the
hearing
to
testify
on
this
item,
but
I
don't
know
if
they
are
in
attendance
right
now.
D
D
Hand,
no
one
present
there
with
you
josh
and
I
see
no
hands
raised.
D
D
Please
virtually
raise
your
hand,
see
so
and
is
the
applicant.
Are
you
in
agreement
with
the
conditions
of
the
staff
report?
Yes,
we
are
sure
they
are
in
agreement
again.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
pub
anyone's
presence
wishing
to
testify
in
opposition
to
this
item?
If
you
would
virtually
please
raise
your
hand.
D
D
D
D
The
next
item
that
will
be
considered
for
the
consensus
is
the
rh20-00298
location,
is
5452
west
state
street
to
construct
an
approximately
16
800
square
foot
office
and
warehouse
building
with
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
in
a
c3d
zone
is
the
applicant
present.
If
you
would
please
virtually
raise
your
hand,
we
have
a
raised
hand.
Mr
burton
thank
you,
and
is
that?
Are
you
in
excuse
me?
Are
you
in
agreement
with
the
recommended
conditions
of
the
staff
report?
D
D
Next
item
would
be
considered
on
tonight's
consent:
agendas.
Item
number
seven
crh20.00300
location
is
858
west
mcgregor
court
for
the
construction
of
an
approximately
91
000
square
foot
manufacturing
office.
Warehouse
building
with
associated
site
improvements
in
a
property
in
an
m1p
zone
is
the
applicant
present.
Please
virtually
raise
your
hand,
I
see
a
raised
hand.
Thank
you,
mr
clark,
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
conditions
of
the
staff
report?
D
D
The
final
item
to
be
heard
tonight
to
be
considered
tonight
on
the
consented
agenda,
is
item
number
eight.
D
Drh20.00301
location
is
6099,
south
federal
way
to
construct
a
self-service
storage
facility
consisting
of
16
buildings,
filling
approximately
348
000
square
feet
and
the
associated
site
improvements
in
an
m1d
zone
is
the
applicant
present.
If
you
would
please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
Thank
you,
mr
hatch,
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
recommended
conditions
of
the
staff
report?
D
We
are.
Thank
you,
sir.
Is
there
anyone
presence
wishing
to
testify
in
opposition
to
this
item?
If
so,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
D
H
Chairman,
yes,
I
move
that
we
approve
the
items
on
tonight's
agenda
items,
one
three,
four,
five,
seven
and
eight
of
the
consent
agenda
with
the
recommended
conditions
of
approval
noted
in
each
project
report
salute.
B
E
A
A
E
A
F
E
All
right,
chairman
committee
members
again
we're
talking
about
drh
20-000
located
at
8306
west
state
street,
so
this
project
is
addressed
off
of
state
street
because
it
was
recently
connected
to
the
property
to
the
south.
There
was
a
minor
land
division
in
2019
and
it's
currently
its
own
parcel.
It
will
receive
a
new
address,
most
likely
off
of
limelight,
but
potentially
off
of
rose
street
as
well.
E
E
R3D,
these
are
the
proposed
elevations.
They
are
using
a
gable
roof,
but
they're
kind
of
modulated,
so
it
creates
a
shed
roof
design.
They
are
proposing
fiber
cement,
lap,
siding
stucco
panels
as
well
as
stone
veneer.
This
is
the
proposed
site
plan.
You
can
see
that
the
main
entry
is
proposed
along
limelight
street
there's
a
secondary
entry
along
rose
street
as
well.
Through
the
pud
process,
there
were
some
site
conditions.
E
The
first
is
that
there
needs
to
be
across
access
to
the
south
and
west
for
future
redevelopment.
So
if
we
go
back
to
the
aerial,
you
can
see
that
the
property
is
surrounded
by
relatively
undeveloped
parcels,
so
in
the
future,
if
they
develop,
there
will
be
cross
access
to
reduce
curb
cuts
in
the
area.
E
E
The
main
design
review
condition
for
the
site
plan
is
that
all
internal
pathways
shall
be
a
minimum
of
five
feet
in
width.
When
we
were
working
through
this
process,
we
were
kind
of
spot,
checking
the
sidewalks
and
then
doing
a
full
review.
We
noticed
that
there's
just
a
couple
of
pathways
that
don't
quite
meet
the
five
feet
in
width,
particularly
along
the
southern
building
based
off
of
the
site
plan,
the
landscape
that's
available
to
be
reduced.
We
don't
anticipate
any
significant
changes
in
order
to
meet
that
condition.
E
So
again,
the
plan
unit
development
did
receive
approval
from
planning
and
zoning.
That
hearing
was
on
june
1st.
The
northwest
neighborhood
association
appealed
the
project
with
concerns
about
infrastructure
and
safety.
The
appeal
was
heard
by
city
council
on
july
28th.
At
that
council
hearing
there
was
some
discussions
again
primarily
on
infrastructure
and
safety.
E
E
So
this
is
the
swale
design
that
was
presented
before
city
council.
That
has
the
direction
to
try
and
reduce
slope
and
create
connectivity.
As
you
can
see,
the
soils
are
located
between
the
streets
as
well
as
the
sidewalk.
They
are
proposing
lawn
and
vegetation,
primarily
native
vegetation,
as
well
as
street
trees.
So
the
primary
concern
was:
the
slopes
were
proposed
at
approximately
12
inches
deep.
Each
there's
also
not
a
lot
of
connectivity.
The
site
is
using
street
parking
to.
B
E
E
E
During
initial
discussions,
we
did
bring
in
community
forestry
and
they
review
the
final
placement
of
street
trees
within
the
right-of-way.
In
addition
to
achd
community
forestry
said
that
this
location
is
appropriate
for
the
trees
and
that
the
proposed
root
barrier
will
allow
them
to
grow
healthy,
so
we
are
still
going
to
get
street
trees
and
there
are
no
concerns
that
there
will
be
issues
with
their
growth
so
to
address
the
safety
and
just
design
concerns
connectivity
of
city
council.
E
The
committee
did
receive
a
memo
suggesting
an
added
condition,
which
is
to
redesign
the
street
swells
to
accommodate
pedestrian
connectivity
between
the
sidewalk
and
parking
spaces
along
both
limelight
and
row
and
provide
an
improved
pedestrian
environment
that
may
include,
but
is
not
limited
to
reducing
slopes,
utilizing
permeable
pavers
to
reduce
swell
demand
and
an
increased
landscape
buffer.
The
final
design
should
be
coordinated
with
design
review
staff
and
achd.
E
So
this
condition
is
worded
to
allow
us
to
still
review
the
project.
Look
at
some
details.
They
do
have
a
geotech
report
that
should
have
been
attached
to
the
report
to
kind
of
see
what
would
be
the
best
option.
The
applicant
has
worked
on
a
redesign
of
the
swales
based
off
of
city
council
direction
by
the
time
they
completed
redesigning
a
proposal.
It
wasn't
quite
enough
time
for
us
to
submit
it
into
the
record,
but
I
believe
they
will
present
the
options
in
their
presentation
today.
E
Overall
staff
is
recommending
approval
for
the
construction
of
multi-family
units
proposed
under
drh
20-0069,
with
the
attached
conditions
of
approval.
With
that,
we
can
see
the
new
swell
designs
proposed
by
the
applicant
and
hear
from
the
public
I'd
just
like
to
leave
us
with
the
photos
of
the
surrounding
area
for
context.
D
Hearing,
none
is
the
applicant
presence
great,
and
would
you
like
to
present
at
this
time.
J
Yes,
good
evening,
chair
and
committee
members,
this
is
scott
mccormick.
I'm
the
managing
development
partner
for
this
project,
which
we
call
limelight
village
and
my
address-
is
532
on
west
hill
and
springs
drive,
boise,
eight,
three,
seven
four,
I
do
have
a
powerpoint
presentation.
Can
I
share
the
screen
at
this
time?
Casey.
J
J
J
Thank
you,
okay,
great.
So
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
the
project
and
discuss
the
issues
that
are
outstanding.
I
just
want
to
say
I
think
the
staff's
done
a
great
job
in
just
working
with
us,
and
you
know
going
back
and
forth
and
just
trying
to
be
cooperative.
J
I
also
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
have
two
other
team
members
that
are
on
the
meeting
tonight,
which
is
our
lead
designer
walter
hughes
from
humphreys
and
partners,
architects,
and
we
also
have
dan
erlinson
from
hpla
studio
or
landscape
architect.
So,
if
there's
any
questions
that
that
may
come
up
for
them,
so
the
first
thing
I
just
want
to
say
is
that
these
are
there.
You
can
see
the
first
rendering.
Oh
sorry,
this
is
the
first
rendering
along
rose
street,
showing
our
building
pipe
one.
J
This
is
our
building.2
and
it
seems
like
the
staff
is
satisfied
with
that.
We
feel
really
proud,
but
we
think
they're
very
attractive
and
present
kind
of
a
nice
mountain.
Look
with
respect.
B
J
The
landscape
plan
casey
did
a
nice
job
showing
us
the
details
along
the
swales,
I'm
going
to
kind
of
focus
on
the
swale
discussion
at
this
point
because
we
previously
worked
with
them
on
dealing
with
internal
pathways,
landscaping,
refining,
exterior
design,
we've
kind
of
worked
through
all
that
with
them,
and
in
this
case
we
heard
the
goals
of
the
council,
and
we
saw
the
revised
staff
recommendations
and
based
on
that,
we've
worked
with
our
team
and
we've
come
up
with
some
new
design
plans
that
we
think
address
this
and
exceed
what's
been
requested.
J
So
this
is
just
a
quick
summary
of
what
we've
done
since
the
council
meeting
on
july
28th
so
along
roastery,
in
order
to
address
the
key
issues
that
were
brought
up,
which
were
improve
pedestrian
safety
and
connectivity
and
reduce
the
slopes.
Here's
what
we've
done
I'll
I'll
summarize
these
real
quickly
and
I'll
just
show
you
on
the
plan,
how
it
works,
but
we've
added
two
feet:
two
foot
level
landings
and
the
sidewalk
in
the
curb
so
that
helps
anybody.
J
Who's
walking
in
the
sidewalk
of
the
current
be
able
to
get
out
of
their
car
safely.
We've
reduced
the
depth
of
the
soil.
This
on
roastery.
First
of
all,
we've
reduced
the
depth
of
the
soil
from
12
inches
to
6
inches,
we've
reduced
the
slope
from
3.1
to
4.1
and
we're
going
to
add
two
strategically
placed
5
foot.
Concrete
connectivity
pass
from
the
curb
to
the
sidewalk
on
row
and
we'll
show
you
where
we
have
the
tentative
locations
for
those
we
can
work
with
staff
on
the
ultimate
locations.
J
We
also
added
shrubs
and
native
seed
mix.
To
give
the
planters
a
more
natural
and
attractive
look
and
feel
then
on
limelight
street,
we
added
a
three
foot
level
landing
at
the
sidewalk
and
a
two
foot
level
landing
at
the
curb.
We
reduced
the
depth
of
that
soil
from
12
inches
to
9
inches
and
we've
reduced
the
slope
from
3.1
to
4.1
and
we'll
add
two
logically
place:
five
concrete
five
foot,
concrete
connectivity
paths
from
the
curb
to
the
sidewalk
and
limelight.
J
I
think
the
other
thing
I
would
just
add
is
that
casey
was
mentioning
that
we
worked
with
staff
and
they
are
the
city
arborist
and
through
that
process
we
actually
did
agree
to
an
additional
five
foot
buffer
on
limelight
street
to
give
a
little
bit
more
room
for
the
trees,
and
that
was
a
good
process
that
we
went
through.
J
This
is
a
section
of
the
rose
street,
which
just
shows
you
and
I'll
use
my
cursor
here.
Here's
the
two
foot
landings:
we've
reduced
the
slope.
We've
also
changed
the
bottom,
the
swell
from
a
sand
drainage
swell
to
we're
going
to
use
a
bioretention
swell
where
we
use
some
amended
soil
that
helps
the
drainage
and
gives
it
just
a
better
look,
and
then
above
here
is
the
plant
selection
from
our
landscape,
architect
that
we're
going
to
use
in
here,
including
the
trees
that
we
plan
to
put
along
there
as
required
by
the
code.
J
This
is
limelight
street.
It
shows
you
the
sidewalk.
Here
we
have
the
three
foot
planner
and
I
mean
the
three
foot
landing
area
next
to
the
sidewalk,
and
then
we
have
this.
The
two
foot
level
entryway
off
the
curb
there
and
same
thing,
similar
kind
of
landscape
selection,
and
then
these
are
the
trees
that
will
go
along
that
street.
J
This
is
a
site
plan
showing
you
where
we
intended
to
put
the
connectivity
pathways.
So
we
we
looked
at
kind
of
the
distance
between
the
entrance
here
on
road
street
in
the
corner,
and
then
we
decided
that
these
would
be
really
strategic
places.
To
put
these
so
there's
somebody
were
getting
out
of
the
vehicle
they
wanted
to
walk
along
the
new
level
pathway
and
get
here
and
cross
over.
It
would
be
easy
for
them
to
do
so
and
safely
and
we
did
the
same
thing
along
limelight
street.
J
We
picked
what
we
thought
was
logical
and
reasonable
locations
along
these
areas
along
the
street.
Buffers
also
to
the
right
here.
We
show
you.
This
is
the
achd
best
management
practices
detail.
We
use
this
as
inspiration
for
trying
to
accomplish
the
goals
that
were
set
forth
and
the
concerns
by
council,
and
we
think
that
we've
done
that
to
a
great.
C
J
And
that
we've
exceeded
it
so
sort
of
in
summary,
of
what
we're
presenting
here
is
that
there's
a
couple
of
just
key
points.
I
wanted
to
reiterate
to
the
committee.
The
number
one
is
that
swells
are
allowed
with
alternative
compliance
requests,
which
we
have
made
through
the
design
review
process
appropriately.
J
These
drainage
swales
are
necessary
in
this
case,
and
it's
due
to
the
high
water
table
in
the
property.
As
casey
said,
we
have
provided
the
geotech
report
for
the
record,
which
I
think
you
guys
have
available,
and
it
shows
that
the
average
water
table
here
is
about
four
to
six
feet,
and
the
surrounding
high
density
properties
in
this
area
also
have
used
swales
in
for
solutions.
J
In
their
case,
we
we
also
would
like
to
just
you
know
state
for
the
record
that
our
design
meets
and
exceeds
each
of
the
codes
requirements
in
addition
to
the
standard
city
code
requirements.
The
city
approved
this
project,
with
the
condition
that
we
revised
the
design,
minimize
the
slope,
increase
safety
connection,
and
we
think
we've
done
a
good
job
of
that.
J
I'd
also
like
to
mention
that
this
swell
has
been
approved
by
hchd
the
original
design
and,
of
course,
this
other.
The
second
design,
as
casey
stated,
will
be
submitted
to
them
for
them
to
approve
the
new
revised
design.
So,
in
summary,
we've
addressed
all
the
goals
and
design
requirements.
We
feel
we've
met
and
exceeded
the
goals
and
concerns
that
were
mentioned
by
council
and
planning
staff,
and
we
are
requesting
that
you
approve
this
item,
as
staff
has
recommended,
and
we
would
we
agree
to
the
staff
conditions.
A
Mr
chairman,
yes
I
have
two
questions.
Mr
mccormick
one
will
the
cross
access
from
the
curb
to
the
sidewalk.
I
assume
that
would
be
handicap
accessible
for
somebody
in
a
wheelchair.
J
We
we
haven't
discussed
that
specifically,
but
I
am.
I
am
confident
that
the
five
foot
width
of
those
concrete
paths
would
be
connected
into
the
sidewalk
and
would
meet
that
requirement.
A
Okay,
a
second
question
under
a
storm
event:
does
your
do
your
calculations
indicate
that
the
that
there
will
be
a
absorption
rate
such
that
at
at
some
point
in
during
that
event,
you
will
probably
have
standing
water
in
there
until
the
retention
basin
assimilates,
the
the
water.
J
Yes,
that
is
correct
the
the
civil
engineer
in
in
a
rain
event,
there
would
be
a
a
time
where
there'd
be
standing
water
in
there
until
it
drains
through.
J
I
I
do
not
have
that
and
unfortunately
our
civil
engineer
is
is
currently
traveling
and
not
available
tonight.
But
my
discussions
with
her
was
that
it
meets
all
of
the
code
requirements
and
she
has
done
the
calculations
in
accordance
with
city
and
hchd
standards.
D
E
I
I
am
a
member
of
the
northwest
neighborhood
association,
I'm
a
board
member
and
I'll
be
representing
the
neighborhoods
concerns
tonight,
just
as
I
did
when
we
appealed
this
development
application
after
planning
and
zoning,
my
focus
for
the
last
two
and
a
half
years
as
a
board
member
has
been
on
public
health
and
safety
in
relation
to
land,
use,
law
and
development.
For
my
neighborhood,
this
is
the
16th
time
I've
provided
testimony
on
behalf
of
infrastructure
and
safety
hazards.
I
Yes,
you
heard
that
right,
that's
the
16th
time
in
two
and
a
half
years
I
have
not
provided
testimony
on
traffic
and
all
kinds
of
things
that
most
people
provide
testimony.
I
focused
on
citizen
safety
and
you
recently
heard
me
testify
on
school
buses,
picking
up
children
on
highway
45
or
highway
44
at
50
to
55
miles
per
hour.
That
was
about
a
month
ago.
I
So
this
is
what
we're
looking
at
tonight
when
we
have
drainage
soils
allowed
in
our
neighborhood.
This
is
just
to
the
east
of
this
property.
This
is
actually
a
swale
that
was
allowed
to
be
mitigated
to
have
reduced
slope,
and
if
you
look
at
those
photos,
all
it
does
is
flood
into
the
street,
so
it
doesn't
necessarily
help
the
matter
at
all
to
have
less
slope
than
the
12
inches,
because
it
just
makes
it
flood
into
the
road
which
causes
additional
hazards.
I
I
Nothing
unusual
about
it,
and
this
is
what
happens
in
the
drainage
swales.
They
inundate
the
roadway
and
they
also
produce
situations
where
a
child
or
a
toddler
can
drown.
They
can
drown
in
two
to
three
inches
of
water,
so
we're
faced
with
a
situation
where,
in
this
particular
application
there
was
no
achd
hearing
for
the
public
to
address
this
issue,
because
there
wasn't
a
traffic
study
required
to
be
held
in
a
hearing.
The
record
shows
that
achd
did
not
have
a
modification
or
waiver
for
their
own
policy
regarding
the
swale
to
be
modified
and
waived.
I
The
boise
stormwater
management
ordinance
requires
an
actual,
more
official
drainage
plan
than
we
submitted
to
the
building
department.
We've
got
boise
ordinance
4619.
That
gives
you
guys
design
review
authority
over
on-site
grading
and
drainage.
Well,
achd's
policies
give
them
authority
over
the
public
right-of-way,
which
is
row
street.
I
Furthermore,
we
had
planning
and
zoning
council
and
now
design
review,
placing
conditions
on
stormwater
management
in
the
public
right-of-way.
Yet
we
have
a
groundwater
study
that
was
done
on
october
21st,
but
not
submitted
until
here.
Recently,
no
soil
permeability
test
was
conducted
in
that
study,
so
in
terms
of
being
able
to
definitively
say
how
fast
that
water
would
be
absorbed,
isn't
necessarily
possible
without
an
actual
test.
I
So
the
full
requirements
of
analysis.
When
I
read
achd
policy
and
the
boise
stormwater
policies,
they're
not
they've,
not
been
fully
conducted.
I
believe
that
that
takes
place
once
public
works
and
the
building
code
take
this
on
so
setting
forth
conditions
or
limitations
is
premature
without
this
required
data,
and
I
did
actually
submit
a
question
to
josh
which
he
did
reply
to
me.
I
said
I
find
it
kind
of
contradictory
to
idaho
code
6765352.
I
That
says
a
decision
has
to
have
a
rationale:
that's
based
on
factual
information
contained
in
the
record.
Yet
we
don't
have
any
final
findings
approved
from
city
council,
because
they're
on
vacation
and
they're
not
going
to
approve
their
findings
until
august
18th.
So
we
have
a
whole
lot
of
issues
just
on
the
procedural
side.
I
Furthermore,
according
to
boise
code,
words
do
matter
when
you're
dealing
with
the
law
and
it
says
that
alternative
compliance
is
to
be
submitted
as
a
request
in
conjunction
with
the
application
and
the
applications
for
the
conditional
use,
permit
and
design
review
were
submitted
in
january
and
february,
whereas
on
july
21st,
the
applicant
submitted
a
letter
that
states
that
this
is
in
connection
with
this
application,
and
I
know
this
is
a
probably
a
minor
point
to
many,
but
words
do
matter
when
you're
dealing
with
the
law.
I
So
for
achd.
This
is
from
their
stormwater
management
policies.
They
allow
infiltration
swales
on
arterials
collectors,
medians
and
subdivision
common
locks
and
rural
streets
with
lot
sizes
of
one
acre
or
greater,
but
less
than
five
acres
per
dwelling,
not
total
size
for
the
entire
unit.
Achd
does
not
allow
swales
on
residential
streets.
You
can
see
where
I've
marked
the
two
red
boxes
on
their
bmp
30
here,
the
top
one
addresses
not
residential
streets
in
the
rural
issue.
I
The
second
box
addresses
the
step
out
zones
that
scott
was
talking
about
earlier
and,
if
you
note
there,
it
does
say
has
to
meet
current
ada
requirements,
so
that
will
be
part
of
that
condition
if,
if
we,
if
this
moves
forward,
furthermore,
in
achd,
in
terms
of
addressing
the
what
they
mean
by
rural,
so
rose
street
is
a
local
street
and
they
define
local
as
urban
and
rural.
This
is
not
a
rural
location.
I
If
you
look
at
their
table,
eight
for
rural
rural
streets
do
not
require
sidewalks
boise
animates,
this
area,
which
at
one
time
was
rural
and
that's
why
the
silver
cloud
apartments
have
a
drainage
swale,
because
it
was
built
during
the
time
when
it
was
still
in
ada
county,
not
under
boise
code.
It's
no
longer
rural.
It
is
going
to
be
rezoned
to
higher
density,
multi-family,
residential.
I
So
designing
for
public
safety
that
prior
slide
when
it
said
a
24
inch
step
out
zone.
This
is
an
example
in
achds,
stormwater
design,
section
8200.
That
shows
what
that
would
look
like.
It
does
not
show
swooping
low,
mitigated
swales
that
are
open
where
water
still
collects.
It's
actually
more
like
a
instead
of
a
raised
bed,
it's
more
like
a
sunken
edge
bed
with
the
pathways
to
cross
through
in
appropriate
sections,
so
infiltration
swales.
I
The
record
for
this
application
shows
the
achd
staff
member
saying
that
these
are
unusual,
that
they
allow
them,
and
why
is
that?
So
in
their
second
email
here
they
said
we
don't
allow
them,
because
they're
frequently
altered
without
proper
approval,
which
is
exactly
what
has
happened
in
our
neighborhood.
I
Here
is
the
silver
cloud
townhouses,
so
the
apartments
were
developed
when
it
was
ada
county
and
allowed
to
have
this
swale.
The
townhouses
were
developed
once
it
moved
into
annex
boise
and
the
developer,
disregarded
their
permit
and
installed
these
otherwise,
which
was
not
what
was
allowed
and
boise
at.
This
point
has
done
nothing
about
it,
which
I
plan
to
follow
up
on,
because
it's
it's
essentially
a
violation
of
what
they
were
approved
for
their
land
use
development.
I
They
went
ahead
and
not
only
installed
swales,
but
they
planned
the
trees
right
in
the
middle
of
them,
which
is,
if
you
know
anything
about
landscaping
and
plants,
not
the
best
environment
for
a
plant
to
survive,
and
I'm
going
to
add
this
additional
factor,
because
I
think
decisions
should
always
be
considered
with
the
long
term
impacts
in
mind
the
city
of
boise.
Did
it
took
on
and
hired
a
consulting
company
to
a
client
to
do
a
climate
adaptation
study
in
2016
and
of
the
eight
significant
impacts
in
the
next
60
years.
I
So
here's
what
these
swales
around
this
area
look
like
right
now,
when
it's
dry
outside
people
tend
to
park
away
from
the
curb
granted,
keep
in
mind
that
my
slides
were
made
before
scott
just
showed
his
slides
with
the
adaptation
that
achd
would
require,
but
right
now
people
park
away
from
the
curb
because
they
want
to
be
able
to
get
out
of
their
car
into
flat
land,
not
stepping
right
into
an
angled
swale.
They
don't
want
to
trudge
through
storm
water,
so
that
forces
people
to
walk
through
the
street
to
reach
the
corner.
I
I
will
have
to
say
that
they,
the
addition
of
shrubs
and
grass
to
the
swale
that
scott
is
proposing,
will
be
a
nightmare
for
the
landscape.
People
to
maintain
you've
got
angles
kind
of
cut
grass
with
shrubs
in
the
way
and
the
shrubs
that
he
has
listed
generally
grow
from
anywhere
from
six
to
eight
wide
and
up
to
twelve
feet
tall.
They
are
far
too
large
for
this
kind
of
an
application,
and
I
am
a
master
gardener
with
the
university
of
idaho.
I
So
I
feel
like
I
have
some
ability
to
say
that
with
confidence,
this
also
creates
quite
a
bit
of
issues
for
ada
access
this
via
voice.
He
just
proclaimed
ada
awareness
day
and
without
addressing
this,
we
end
up
creating
additional
mobility
challenges
for
individuals
in
wheelchairs,
walkers
or
even
if
you
have
crutches,
you
can't
use
a
side,
lift
or
a
car
ramp.
A
service
animal
is
trained
to
not
expose
their
person
to
a
water
hazard
and
again
it
would
force
people
to
walk
in
the
unpredicted
street
without
actual
pathway
access.
I
But
my
biggest
concern
here
is
this:
a
toddler
can
drown
in
two
to
three
inches
of
water.
There's
a
absolute
sound
reason
why
this
is
allowed
in
an
industrial
area
or
a
rural
area
with
low
density
or
a
farm.
It's
not
meant
for
high
density,
where
children
are
going
to
be.
I
put
this
in
the
packet
that
I
sent
you,
I
put
it
in
the
city
council
in
the
planning
and
zoning's
packet
it.
Clearly.
I
These
are
various
different
sites
throughout
the
country
that
deal
with
child
safety
and
when
it
says
small
bodies
of
standing
water
around
your
home,
such
as
drainage,
ditches,
are
part
of
this
risk
that
needs
to
be
taken
extremely
seriously.
Children
are
attracted
to
water,
it
sparkles
it
moves
it's
associated
with
fun.
This
particular
project
doesn't
have
any
kid-friendly
amenities
due
to
the
target
market
that
they're
seeking
and
it's
important
to
recognize
that
the
court.
I
There's
a
logical
and
sound
reason
why
these
should
not
be
allowed.
It
leads
to
negligence.
In
my
opinion,
it
can
be
mitigated
by
simply
following
the
law
and
saying
we're
not
going
to
make
an
exception
to
this,
because
it
enables
a
hazard
to
public
health
and
safety.
It
can
possibly
lead
to
personal
injury.
Lawsuits
and
case
law
has
shown
that
you
can
be
liable
in
a
wrongful
death
situation
or
a
lawsuit
when
water
is
involved.
I
I
So
for
the
boise
development
code
in
terms
of
meeting
the
purpose
and
intent,
it
does
not
achieve
a
safe
environment.
It
does
not
meet
the
required
findings
for
alternative
compliance.
The
site
conditions
have
not
been
proven
to
be
impossible
or
impractical.
It's
not
equal
or
superior
to
what
is
required.
It's
actually
detrimental
to
public
welfare
due
to
being
an
attractive
nuisance
for
children,
leading
to
a
possible
high
risk
of
drowning,
protecting
the
health
and
safety
and
general
welfare
as
the
number
one
priority.
In
addition
to
protecting
the
waters
of
the
state.
I
Oh
and
in
closing
here's
what
I
I
want
to
say
in
terms
of
making
exceptions
on
august
25
2003,
the
city
of
boise,
made
an
exception
to
a
critical
safety
standard
for
the
annexation
of
the
oregon
trail
subdivision.
The
record
shows
the
land
was
located
partially
outside
of
the
required
fire
response
standard.
A
planning
and
zoning
commissioner
specifically
asked
about
that
risk.
I
In
the
public
hearing
and
exactly
five
years
to
the
very
day,
a
horrific
tragedy
occurred
on
august
25,
2008
10
homes
were
destroyed,
11
damage,
100
people
evacuated,
18
first
responders
were
injured
and
a
bsu
professor
lost
her
life
and
her
spouse
lost
his
partner.
Why?
Because
we
made
an
exception
to
safety.
That's
not
why
we
have
laws
in
place.
Laws
are
in
place
to
protect
citizen
safety,
they're
not
in
place
to
make
exceptions
to
them.
I
ask
that
you
please
consider
this
very
carefully.
Thank
you.
C
I
believe
we
did
have
one
more
member
on
the
sign-up
sheet,
so
you
could
ask
the
attendees
if
anyone
else
would
like
to
speak.
D
D
Not
seeing
any
other
hands
being
raised,
assuming
there's
nobody
in
person
there
with
you
josh.
D
And
with
that
we
would,
we
would
turn
it
back
over
to
the
applicant
for
rebuttal.
Mr
mccormick,
if
you'd
like
to
say
a
few
last
words.
J
Sure
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
okay
great.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
think
what
I'd
like
to
just
reiterate
to
the
committee
is
that
one
this?
What
this
project
has
been
approved
by
the
commission?
It's
been
approved
by
the
council
with
the
conditions
as
they
set
forth.
We've
agreed
to
those.
J
We
believe
that
we
have
met
those
and
exceeded
them.
The
current
code
allows
for
this
alternative
compliance
and
I
think
the
other
part
with
respect
to
the
ada
comments
made
by
erica.
I
would
just
say
we
have.
We
haven't
meet
the
appropriate
ada
standards
for
parking
within
the
project,
so
any
of
those
folks
would
be
able
to
park
inside.
J
Our
civil
engineer
has
worked
in
the
area
and
the
geotech
report
has
also
been
completed
by
mti,
who
has
extensive
knowledge
of
the
area.
They
have
indicated
what
the
soil
type
is
there.
So
our
civil
engineer
has
done
the
calculations
and
said
that
this
meets
those
standards
and
will
and
understands
generally
what
the
percolation
is
in
the
area.
In
addition,
as
I
point
out
earlier,
we
are
going
to
use
the
standards
from
acht
which
uses
an
uncompacted
bioretention
soil,
which
will
help
the
drainage
in
these
areas
and
we
will
meet
all
conditions
required.
J
With
this
respect.
Staff
recommends
approval,
as
they've
stated
previously.
We've
been
delayed
significantly
through
this
process
due
to
covet
19
and
a
bunch
of
other
things,
but
it's
been
a
very
long
process
for
us.
B
E
E
Sometimes,
applicants
will
submit
grading
through
design
review
application,
but
it's
not
required
it's
not
on
our
checklist.
So
what
we
review
is
the
requirements
for
swales
within
the
code
and
then
public
works
achd.
If
we
want
to
go
beyond
city
of
boise
have
their
own
specific
requirements
that
get
reviewed.
In
addition
to
what
we're
reviewing.
F
If
I
may
just
a
couple
of
points,
I
do
complement
the
design.
I
think
that
it
is,
it
is,
I
think,
it's
very
attractive,
very
well
done.
I
also
I
have
to
admit,
though,
I've
had
some
of
the
same
concerns
that
ms
schofield
raised
about
the
the
berms
and
the
swales
and
the
standing
water.
F
I
also
understand
that
you
know
the
drainage
requirements
and
those
types
of
things
excuse
me,
but
if
I
understand
things
correctly
and
some
insight
into
this
would
be
very
helpful,
for
me
is
whether
we
have
any
if
we
can
change
or
make
recommendations
relative
to
those
to
the
drainage.
That's
already
there
it'd
be
really
nice
to
know.
F
If
we
had
that
geotech
report
to
know
what
that
or
what
the
percolation
rate
was
to
see,
I
don't
know
if
we
could
compare
that
to
what
we
saw
in
the
photographs,
but
obviously
the
quicker
you
can
get
it
out
of
there
the
better,
but
I
don't
know
that
and
anybody
that
can
direct
me.
I
would
appreciate
it
if
we
can
make
recommendations
for
that
or,
if
that's
some
other
part
of
the.
D
Process
yeah,
I
don't
know
casey
or
josh.
You
would
want
to
chime
in
on
that,
but
typically
tabloid
from
my
my
own
personal
experience
on
applications
with
acht
and
drainage
right
away,
as
well
as
on-site
drainage,
as
it
correlates
to
ac
hd.
D
It's
a
very
carefully
monitored
piece
where
I
know
achd
does
not
like
to
take
any
drainage
from
on-site
onto
their
portions
right,
they're,
very,
very
particular,
about
the
the
drainage
of
their
own.
You
know
one
of
the
other
options
I
guess
would
be
probably
seeing
some
of
those
other
subdivisions
or
some
underground
seepage
bed
or
some
other
kind
of
storm
structures
that
are
in
those
those
systems.
D
But
in
this
case
you
know,
the
applicant
will
also
be
making
additional
applications
to
achd,
who
will
review
the
geotechnical
reports
to
the
percolation
rates,
the
size
of
the
retention
basins,
safety
and
everything
on
that
regard
inside
of
the
right-of-way
as
part
of
their
application,
and
I
don't
believe
we
have
a
whole
lot
of
jurisdiction.
I
don't
know
that
it.
If
yeah
there
was
something
that
you
wanted
to
recommend
that
gets
passed
along
to
achc.
That's
something
that
I'm
sure
we
could
ask
staff
to
do.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
that
that
actually
clarifies
that
I
mean
I.
I
think
that
the
my
but
the
point
of
my
comments
were,
I
figured
it
was
down
the
road
there
were
more
cross,
checks,
etc,
and
I
I
just
really
I
do
understand
the
concerns
I
want
to.
Let
ms
schofield
know
that
I
I
mean
that
that
rings
a
bell,
and
I
think
that
is
an
issue
that
needs
to
make
sure
that
it's
done
in
the.
However,
it's
done
in
the
most
the
safest
manner
possible.
F
You
know
and
like
I
said
I,
I
didn't
think
that
we
really
had
a
whole
lot.
I
don't
even
know
what
I
would
recommend
quite
honestly,
other
than
an
underground
seepage
bed,
but
I
don't
know
that
that's
within
our
purview
to
do
that.
D
Yeah,
exactly
I
mean
achd
will
make
those
recommendations.
I
think,
on
all
of
that
style
from
the
from
the
storm
water
retention.
You
know
it's
a
little
bit
challenging
even
with
the
ada
portions
of
things.
I
mean
the
other
examples
that
they
show
have
detached
sidewalks
as
well,
but
they're
also
in
uneven
ground
with
grass
and
such
and
it's
probably
not
still,
not
exactly
an
ada
surface
that
you
get
out
of
your
car
and
walk
on.
You
know
in
those
circumstances,
there's
also
a
six-inch
curb
at
all
those
locations.
D
So
it's
not
a
wheelchair
ada
accessible
locations
on
any
of
those
as
well,
which
would
be
considered
on
the
inside
of
the
parking
where
they
meet
the
minimum
required
accessible
parking
stalls.
So
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
tell
where
you
actually
drive.
You
know
draw
the
line
aesthetically,
I
I
prefer
having
detached
sidewalks.
D
They
do
work
fairly
well
and
they
are
a
good
solution
in
high
ground
water
areas
and
it's
a
pretty
common
solution.
However,
in
these
locations,
it's
it's
yeah,
I
don't
know
it's.
I
don't
know
that
we
have
a
whole
lot
of
purview
to
make
much
of
other
than
potentially
a
recommendation
to
pass
along
the
acht.
F
You
froze
up
there,
but
I
what
I
did
hear
it
was
a
was
a
very
good
clarification.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
Other
concerns
or
anything
on
this
application.
I
would
probably
reiterate
what
mr
cowboy
said.
I
think
it's
a
very
attractive
design
well
thought
out
and
short
of
the
items
that
are
in
achc's
right-of-way.
I
didn't
hear
much
of
anything
that
is
of
concern
from
design
or
aesthetics.
A
Mr
chairman,
yes,
mrs
obama,
I'll
jump
into
this
I've.
A
Obviously
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
done
by
both
the
neighborhood
as
well
as
the
applicant,
to
try
to
make
this
a
very
attractive
and
safe
project.
A
I
don't
know
that
there's
a
given
the
high
water
table
and
that
fact
this
is
in
the
right
of
way
that
there's
much
one
can
do
other
than
to
continue
to
work
on
this,
the
soil
design
and
with
the
various
agencies
and
reviewing
staff
and
the
design
team
to
make
it
the
best
they
can
under
the
situation.
A
H
H
E
A
E
A
E
D
E
F
E
Perfect
so
again
we
are
reviewing
item
number
drh20-00298.
This
is
the
proposed
site
plan
for
the
project.
They
are
proposing
a
light
industrial
warehouse
building
with
some
office
space.
As
you
can
see,
there
is
a
future
development
parcel
shown
on
the
site
plan.
That
property
will
require
a
separate
review
through
design
review
and
is
not
subject
to
the
current
review.
E
The
current
configuration
configuration
of
the
lot
with
the
warehouse
building
a
and
then
the
t3
sport
building
above
appears
to
have
occurred
in
2015.
We
could
not
find
records
with
the
city
with
this
site
configuration
instead.
What
we
have
is
this
record
of
survey,
which
shows
three
lots
instead
of
two
configured,
the
opposite
way,
because
of
that
the
lot
is
technically
not
a
buildable
lot
at
this
moment,
however,
because
of
that,
the
first
condition
is
to
pursue
a
record
of
survey
to
do
a
lot
line,
adjustment
and
consolidation.
E
The
applicant
is
in
the
process
of
doing
this.
So
that's
why
we're
reviewing
the
design
review?
They
will
need
to
comply
with
any
requirements
of
the
record
of
survey
and,
if
there's
any
significant
changes
the
proposed
layout
because
of
the
record
of
survey,
we
would
go
through
a
modification
application
through
design
review.
E
E
This
is
the
landscape
plan.
The
main
requirements
are,
we
need
a
few
more
street
trees.
Additionally,
we
need
verification
from
idaho
power
that
they
would
allow
class
2
trees.
There
are
some
overhead
lines
and
we
are
anticipating
needing
to
replace
those
with
appropriate
class
1
trees.
We
do
need
some
terminal.
Planters
do
need
a
finalized
tree
mitigation
plan
and
we
need
to
relocate
some
light
poles
with
the
design
conditions.
E
Primarily,
this
is
because
this
is
an
industrial
building.
It's
designed
and
used
for
industrial
building,
but
it
is
in
a
commercial
zone
so
because
of
that
it
is
not
exempt
for
our
design
standards.
So
we
do
need
to
get
some
decorative
building
materials
on
the
front.
Facade
get
some
more
design
interest.
D
D
Mr
burton,
I
am
yes,
if
you
would
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
please.
G
So
we
we
did
agree
with
all
the
conditions
laid
out
by
the
staff
and
there
was
no
other
concern
brought
by
the
public.
I
did
speak
with
one
property
owner
across
the
road,
so
I
I
guess
at
this
point
I
would.
I
would
just
love
to
hear
the
concerns
brought
by
the
public.
D
D
B
K
My
name
is
mark
salvi.
My
address
is
across
the
street
at
5501
west
state
street
boise,
idaho
83703,
the
president
of
an
organization
called
pick,
a
part
jalopy
jungle
or
a
network
of
automobile
salvage
yards.
K
I
am
I
just
wanted
to
be
on
this
call
to
be
on
record.
I
am
neither.
I
am
not
against
the
proposed
project
being
a
grandfathered
business
model
in
the
area
where
heavy
industrial
and
operation
I
wanted
to
make
sure
and
confirm
that
there
was
going
to
be
no
alteration
to
the
traffic
flow
on
state
street.
K
We
have
semis
and
tow
trucks
frequently
come
in
and
we
need
a
full
access
on
our
most
eastern
property
boarder
there,
and
I
want
to
be
sure
that
none
of
that's
going
to
be
hindered
with
this
current
development
and
then
that
future
corner
development
coming
up.
So
I
wanted
to
be
on
record
that
we
do
have
a
grandfathered
business.
There
that's
been
60
plus
years
operating
that
I
want
to
be
sure.
We're
able
to
maintain
that
operation
unhindered
with
this
development.
K
D
D
Seeing
none
we'll
turn
it
back
over
to
the
applicants.
If
you'd
like
some
clarify
some.
D
G
Thank
you,
sorry.
I
was
muted,
so
there
is
actually
a
study
done
by
achd
and
actually
I
spoke
to
ed.
He
said
he
was
actually
the
owner
of
jalopy
jungles
there
I
talked
to
him
this
afternoon
and
I
told
him
that
there
is
actually
a
study
done
by
achd
and
they
are
looking
at
changing
the
traffic
flow
along
state
street.
However,
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
this
development.
That
study
is
actually
completed
months
ago.
G
I
believe,
if
not
at
least
a
year-
and
these
revisions
have
been-
you
know-
coming
down
the
pipeline
long
before
we
even
looked
at
this
property,
so
I
I
would
advise
him
to
to
look
into
that.
I
don't
have
that
exact
report
number
or
or
reference,
but
casey.
Do
you
have
that
information
that
maybe
you
could
share
with
him.
E
Hi
so
achd
did
provide
comments.
They
did
not
specifically
change
traffic
flow
with
this
project.
They
did
take
some
future
dedicated
right
of
way,
which
is
in
anticipation
of
development
of
state
street,
which
will
include
multiple
lanes
bike
lanes
and
a
potential
multi-use
pathway.
I
do
not
have
the
specifics
of
when
that
project
will
occur.
It
is
not
being
prompted
by
this
project
and
it's
not
occurring
now
or
because
of
the
project.