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Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 5:30 PM
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B
The
first
time
we're
going
to
consider
for
tonight's
consent
agenda
is
item
number
two
item
number
two
is
drh.
21-004
location
is
2500
east
freight
street
for
the
construction
of
a
new,
approximately
185,
300
square
foot.
Industrial
building
with
associated
site
improvements
in
a
property
located
in
an
m1d
zone
is
the
applicant
present
tonight
either
in
person
or
online
visa
record.
Show
the
applicant
is
present
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
recommended
conditions
of
approval?
B
B
B
Location
is
5522
west
franklin,
road,
it's
for
the
construction
of
four
new
multi-family
residential
buildings
with
112
units
and
a
clubhouse
building
and
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
in
a
c2d
zone.
Is
the
applicant
present
tonight.
Please
let
the
record
show
the
applicant
is
present.
Are
you
in
agreement
with
recommended
conditions
of
approval?
B
Please
let
the
record
show
the
applicant
is
in
agreement.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify
in
opposition
to
this
item
either
in
person
any
online
josh
c?
None?
The
slide
will
also
be
moved
to
the
consent
agenda,
and
that
concludes
our
items
for
tonight
and
I
would
be
open
to
take
a
motion
for
this
consent
agenda.
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B
E
B
C
E
B
A
Second,
for
that
two-story
active
space
and
then
the
parking
in
the
building
on
the
south
half
of
the
block
moving
up
the
project
has
a
courtyard
on
top
of
the
second
floor
interior
to
the
structure
in
the
alley,
there
are
two
pedestrian
sky
bridges
which
connect
the
two
buildings
across
that
alley,
and
then
residential
units
and
then
continuing
up
to
the
seventh
floor.
There
is
residential
units
proposed
cross-section,
shows
the
alley,
the
sub-grade
parking
and
then
the
fitness
on.
A
On
this
view,
of
course,
the
project
has
has
those
active
uses
that
wrap
the
street
fringes,
so
this
section
doesn't
fully
capture
what
those
ground
floor
uses
are
the
proposed
building,
and
this
is
the
grove
street
elevation.
It
features
articulation
balconies
fenestration,
as
required
with
the
through
the
design
guidelines.
A
A
prominent
cornice
and
weather
protection
is
included
on
all
elevations
of
the
of
the
building
to
provide
that
pedestrian
scale
and
the
weather
protection
for
the
street
level.
Streetscape
improvements
have
been
proposed
on
all
street
frontages
as
required.
In
this
view.
Here
you
can
see
the
alley
between
the
two
buildings,
with
the
two
sky:
bridges
extending
across
the
front
street
elevation
again,
there's
some
exposed
parking,
but
it
has
been
screened
from
front
street.
A
We
have
the
ground
level
canopies
for
that
pedestrian
level
interest
with
some
balconies
and
some
recesses
in
the
building
to
provide
that
articulation
as
well.
Moving
to
the
final
elevation
on
13th
street,
they
have
addressed
the
corner
of
13th
in
front
with
a
chamfer
to
the
building.
It
is
right
it
is
identified
in
the
downtown
design
guidelines
as
a
prominent
intersection
deserving
special
attention,
so
some
pedestrian
space
there
at
the
corner,
with
the
chamfer
to
the
building,
has
been
provided
and
then
again
those
active
uses
along
the
street
facades.
A
In
the
project
report,
staff
has
recommended
approval.
The
applicant
is
in
agreement
with
the
conditions
with
one
late,
very
minor
adjustment
to
condition
1f,
and
that
is
the
access
aisles
for
single
ada
spaces
within
the
garage
shall
be
located
on
the
right
side
of
the
parking
space
with
the
addition
of
the
word
single
beyond
that
the
applicant
is
here,
has
a
presentation
ready
and
I
would
stand
for
any
questions.
B
H
Well,
thank
you,
members
of
the
council.
I'm
chad
lorenz
with
herbal
architecture,
1938
fairview,
avenue,
east
suite,
100
seattle,
washington,
98102,
thanks
for
having
us
today,
we
are
in
agreement
with
all
the
conditions,
as
josh
mentioned.
Thank
you
josh
for
the
presentation.
I'm
gonna
keep
it
really
brief
tonight,
just
because
we
are
in
agreement,
but
we
do
have
some
jazzed
up
renderings
to
show
you
that
better
reflect.
I
think
what
we're
proposing
here.
So
I
want
to
first
introduce
alliance
residential,
is
here
they're
the
developers.
H
We
also
have
our
landscape
architect,
rob
fazio,
fazio
associates
and
land
groups
are
civil.
If
there's
any
questions
on
those
specific
disciplines
next
slide
important.
So
next
slide.
So
this
is
a
class,
a
residential
development
for
for
our
alliance.
We
really
feel
this
is
a
very
special
site
within
kind
of
the
west
downtown
we're
really
excited
about,
what's
being
proposed
for
the
lynn
district
and
the
grove
street
improvement,
and
really
I
can't
wait
to
see
that
develop
in
the
next.
You
know
years.
H
So
it
really
starts
with
the
streets,
and
we
were
first
visited
this
site,
it's
quite
amazing,
actually
standing
on
the
site
and
seeing
the
differences
that
you
feel
on
front
street
on
grove,
12th
and
13th.
So
let
me
just
give
you
a
little
description.
Grove
street,
as
I
mentioned
before,
a
lot's
going
to
happen
there.
It
really
kind
of
is
the
pedestrian
bike
connection
east.
H
H
H
It
is
very
loud
there,
so
it
affects
a
little
bit
of
how
we
were
thinking
of
it
and
then
front
street,
which
is
really
the
main
arterial
out
of
downtown,
and
we
are
sort
of
the
last
stoplight
there
before
you
hit
the
interstate
and
the
cars
just
start
going,
and
it's
very
loud
and
somewhat
inhospitable
to
any
sort
of
retail
and
even
pedestrian
activity.
If
you
look
at
the
hotel
across
the
street,
they've
actually
put
a
continuous,
concrete
planner
to
kind
of
shield
their
building
and
pedestrians
from
it.
H
H
We're
really
excited
about
it
on
our
site,
between
12th
and
13th,
there's
a
place
for
spillout
dining,
there's
a
bike
path,
separated
with
a
planning
strip.
Some
buffers
parking,
there's
all
kinds
of
stuff
going
on
across
the
street,
a
parklet
is
being
introduced.
So
we
really
want
to
add
to
that
streetscape
on
the
grove
street
and
find
a
really
important
street
to
kind
of
front
next.
H
H
As
noted,
there's,
it's
restaurant
ready
lots
of
opportunity
there
for
that
that
and
greeting
people
you
know
moving
into
the
linen
district
from
downtown
as
you
move
down
twelfth,
that's
replaced
more
retail
again
that
was
more
pedestrian
street,
quieter,
very
appropriate
for
smaller
scale,
retail
along
that
street
wrapping
around
13th.
I
said
transitional
much
more
traffic.
H
We
actually
put
active
internal
activity
on
that
side,
fitness,
a
bike,
shop,
bike
storage,
where
people
would
see
activity
but
wouldn't
necessarily
have
activities
spilling
out
onto
the
sidewalks
and
then
front
street
we've
wrapped
the
corners
and
really
tried
to
make
that
kind
of
transition,
but
have
some
parking,
as
josh
noted
on
that
street
next,
so
we
are
considered
a
gateway
corner
on
the
corner
of
13th
and
front
and
so
to
pay.
You
know
tribute
to
that.
H
H
We
are
trying
that
also
at
night
to
bring
in
this
kind
of
highlight
of
some
of
the
brick
items
so
that
when
people
come
in
from
downtown,
they
see
a
very
kind
of
nice
sort
of
entrance
and
we
hope
that
it
really
sort
of
serves
as
a
kind
of
a
bar
to
the
rest
of
this
district
as
it
continues
to
develop
next
the
alley.
Definitely
you
know
you
guys
have
allies
in
boise.
H
A
lot
of
them
are
purely
for
service,
they
become,
you
know,
places
to
put
dumpsters
and
and
can
be
unsightly,
and
we
want
to
kind
of
discourage
that,
though
we
do
take
our
services
off
of
the
alley.
We
have
our
garage
entry,
we
have.
We
have
some
parking
there,
but
what's
really
interesting
about
the
alley
and
you
can
see
in
more
detail
here
is
we
have
our
courtyard
looking
down
into
it?
It
actually
splits
our
courtyard,
as
josh
mentioned.
H
We
have
two
two
bridges
across
which
are
actually
open,
so
people
will
see
down
into
it
and
if
you
see
adjacent
to
the
alley
to
get
into
the
courtyard,
we
have
some
access
points
so
we're
encouraging
residents
to
literally
walk
along
the
alley
so
that
there
there's
activity
both
looking
down
from
below
or
down
from
above
and
looking
up
you'll
be
able
to
see
activity
as
well.
So
we're
really
trying
to
do
some
something
to
make
sure
that
this
alley
doesn't
become
a
blight
within
the
middle
of
the
building
next
slide.
H
This
is
an
image
looking
down
there,
as
you
can
see
on
12th
street,
the
retail
flanks
it
and
it
actually
turns
the
corner.
So
there's
windows
there's
light,
there's
eyes
on
the
alley
as
you
even
transition
into
that
alley
space
next,
so
our
inspiration
was,
as
I
said,
the
kind
of
classical
buildings
that
have
stood
the
test
of
time.
H
H
We
use
kind
of
a
warmer
light,
brick,
and
then
we
contrast
that,
with
some
light
stucco,
which
you
know
complements
the
brick,
we
have
black
windows
which
provide
contrast
on
the
upper
levels
from
the
lighter
material.
As
you
move
down
to
the
base,
you
get
the
dark
storefronts
in
it,
which
kind
of
differentiates
it.
H
So
if
you
zoom
into
the
details,
there
is
a
lot
more
and
a
lot
more
than
even
this
rendering
shows,
but
first
and
foremost,
we're
trying
to
capture
sort
of
a
base
and
a
middle
and
a
top
to
the
building.
The
top
has
signage.
There's
a
strong
cornice
with
profiled
brick
components.
We've
got
arches,
we've
got
deep
inset
to
the
the
building.
So
there's
there's
depth
to
it.
H
The
the
pilasters
that
you
see
actually
have
indentations
of
brick
there
so
they're,
not
just
flat.
They
actually
have
a
little
recess
in
there,
create
some
shadow
lines,
as
do
all
the
brick
columns
have
a
little
shadow
line,
we're
proposing
lighting
on
here
so
that
at
night
this
thing
really
glows
and
really
creates
a
has
a
presence
at
all
times
a
day
and
yeah.
We
just
really
have
put
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
into
the
details
of
this
building
next
slide.
H
H
Look,
but
a
very
you
know,
nice
residential
building
for
the
residents
next
slide
again,
the
alley
not
much
more
to
say
about
that,
but
just
wanted
to
give
you
another
look
at
it
with
a
kind
of
streetscape
and
the
depth
there's
actually
a
two
foot
recess
and
those
brick
columns
there
that
sort
of
provide
differentiation
depth
where
it
comes
out.
At
the
corner,
it's
recessed
slightly
in
between
next
the
gateway
corner
once
more
and
then
last
slide.
H
I
Mr
chair,
yes,
mister
from
your
original
application,
when
this
was
a
single
building
with
a
fully
enclosed
courtyard
and
there
was
talk
about
abandoning
the
alley.
What
what
drove
the
decision
to
switch
over
to
two
buildings.
I
imagine
you're
leaving,
I
don't
know,
24
to
30
units
on
the
table,
and
I
I
thought
that
the
fully
enclosed
courtyard
was
rather
compelling.
C
A
A
They
provide
a
number
of
opportunities
to
take
services
off
of
the
streets
and
keep
them
in
the
alleys
and
break
down
our
blocks
into
a
a
scale
that
you'd
see
in
downtown
boise
with
blocks
bifurcated
by
an
alley.
Two
separate
buildings
and
kind
of
break
down
that
massing.
So
that
was
at
the
urging
of
the
city.
J
A
F
H
I
I
guess
one
other
question
I
have
would
just
be
kind
of
the
the
rationale
behind
the
placement
of
some
of
your
awnings.
I
can't
see
them
necessarily
correlating
to
any
specific
condition
I
mean
along
this
facade.
You've
got
pretty
much
every
module
with
an
awning
and
then
some
of
your
others.
The
some
modules
within
a
specific
condition
have
them,
but
others
do
not,
and.
H
On
the
other
two
facades,
I
mean
we're
really
in
some
ways:
sort
of
discouraging
pedestrian
activity,
since
we've
already
we'd
rather
push
people
on
the
grove,
but
we
still
need
to
maintain
the
50
requirement
on
the
front
street
side.
So
that's
why
they're
a
little
haphazardly
place,
trying
to
kind
of
create
some
interest,
but
but
they're,
certainly
not
there
for
any
particular
reason,
except
code.
L
So
ben
committee
member
sample
online
here-
sorry,
I
couldn't
make
it
down
there.
Tonight.
I
had
a
question
about
the
garage
screening
that
you
have
on
the
front
street
facade.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
materials
that
are
that
is
and
and
just
kind
of
the
how
that
ties
into
the
rest
of
the
facade.
H
Sure
it's
a
laser-cut
metal
screen
and
it's
got
sort
of
we
we're
kind
of
mimicking
the
divided
light
windows
that
you
see
at
the
the
lobby,
space
with
a
kind
of
welded
wire
mesh
between
them
of
a
certain
gauge.
We
have
we
found
in
other
ones
when
you
don't
have
a
kind
of
a
beefy
enough
sort
of
metal
that
believe
it
or
not.
People
will
cut
through
your
screens
and
go
steal,
bikes
and
various
things
in
there.
H
So
we're
trying
to
get
a
tight
kind
of
weave
to
these
and
enough
sort
of
gauge
in
order
to
deter
people
from
getting
there,
but
they're
really
meant
to
kind
of
mimic.
The
the
if
you
can
go
to
the
last
slide,
see
the
front
door
where
you
have
the
divided
light
doors
and
stuff,
that's
kind
of
the
vocabulary,
that's
being
carried
around
that
front
street
side.
So
thanks
like
her
classic
window,
yeah.
B
M
M
I
host
paint
parties
and
I
run
and
teach
those
paint
and
set
paint
parties
which
people
really
love,
and
I
just
you
know
kind
of
want
to
address
that,
and
you
know
bring
that
up
that
just
hopefully
there's
some
other
options
that
can
be
presented
by
the
developers
or
maybe
there's
some
other
location
or
some
other
warehouse,
or
something
like
that
that
they
can.
You
know,
think
about
sticking
us,
but
I
just
really
hope
that
I
have
enough
time
to
move
somewhere
else
that
it's
not
going
to
be
like.
M
I
I
It's
it's
counterproductive
to
some
of
the
larger
objectives
that
we
have
as
a
community,
and
I
I
feel
like
I,
I
would
be
remiss
to
not
bring
that
up.
I
know
that
we
can't
necessarily
stipulate
that
months
of
work
be
undone
and
we
go
back
to
a
design
that
was
not
actually
communicated
tonight,
but
I
I
just
need
to
get
that
out.
There.
C
B
K
K
K
There
would
be
a
50
foot
wide
landscape
buffer
consisting
of
a
fence
which
the
applicant
has
indicated
might
be
a
four
foot
tall,
split
rail
fence
with
a
10
foot
grass
buffer
with
drainage,
and
then
a
40
foot
wide
terraced
berm
with
a
mix
of
evergreen
and
deciduous
trees,
and
the
berm
would
be
at
least
four
feet
tall
on
the
parking
side
which
could
screen
the
vehicle
headlights
and
then
there's
also
no
truck
docks
on
that
side.
So
that
would
be
the
employee
and
visitor
parking.
K
And
then
to
further
mitigate
impacts
to
the
blue
valley,
residents
on
the
west
staff
recommended
a
condition
that
the
landscape
buffer
also
continue
along
the
remaining
north
property
line
on
the
west
side.
So
you
can
see
this
is
the
proposed
buffer
with
the
trees
and
then
on
the
west
side.
Staff
recommends
that
a
buffer
also
be
provided
on
that
side,
and
on
this
context,
you
can
kind
of
see
that
this
area
adjacent
to
the
west
will
still
be
visible
from
some
of
the
residents.
K
K
K
K
And
then
I
do
have
a
list
of
all
the
conditions
available.
If
we
want
to
look
through
them,
we
are
recommending
a
modified
condition
a
and
that
would
comply
with
all
ada
county
highway
district
requirements
construct
the
winco
court
extension
to
achg's
industrial
street
section
standard
with
a
minimum
50
feet
of
right-of-way
for
public
street
dedication
of
the
winco
court
extension,
which
will
require
a
subdivision
application
prior
to
dedication
of
the
winco
court.
C
D
J
K
Yeah
mr
chair
committee,
member
aguilar,
for
now
the
applicant
would
be
required
to
construct
a
turnaround
on
their
property
eventually
that
road
we
would
anticipate
being
extended,
but
we
don't
know
when
that
would
be
so
there
would
be
a
sign
that
would
say.
Achd
usually
requires
a
sign
that
says
that
this
street
will
be
extended
in
the
future,
but
for
now
the
applicant
would
be
constructing
a
temporary
turnaround.
K
N
Hey
good
evening,
tur
marsh
members
of
the
design
committee,
my
name
is
michael
chen
associate
principal
with
mckenzie
address
500
union
street
suite
410
seattle,
washington,
98
101.,
I'd
like
to
also
thank
staff
for
working
with
us
this
evening.
I
have
myself
here
as
well
as
trevor
neville
with
lincoln
property
company
and
deborah
nelson
with
givens
percy
llp,
as
well
as
other
patrick
gilligan,
from
lincoln
property
company,
scott
moore,
my
colleague
from
mckenzie
and
jordan
sheets,
with
kimberly
horn
they're
attending
virtually
this
evening.
N
Just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
the
site
and
the
context
as
kaitlyn
did
mention.
We
are,
you
know,
bound
by
blue
valley
to
the
north
winco
to
the
south,
osmond
to
the
east
and
vacant
property
and
railroad
to
the
west
next
slide,
and
I
wanted
to
give
you
all
a
little
history
about
the
site
we
started
working
with
wind
or
with
a
lincoln
property
company
last
summer.
N
This
is
the
initial
site
plan.
As
you
can
see,
it
shows
four
larger
warehouse
buildings.
The
smallest
was
about
196
000
square
feet
and
building
a
was
a
double
dock.
Configured
building
crosstalk
configured
building
this
provided
about
1.4
million
square
feet
of
warehouse
and,
as
you
can
see,
four
large
buildings,
it's
a
lot
more
efficient
to
construct.
N
N
Next-
and
this
is
the
site
plan
before
you,
so
we've
taken
a
lot
of
feedback
from
both
the
neighbors
and
lincoln
properties
and
we've
refined
the
building
so
that
you
have
a
total
of
1.2
million
square
feet.
So
there's
a
loss
of
200
000
square
feet
overall,
less
building
coverage,
smaller
buildings,
the
smallest
building
building
f,
is
approximately
37
000
square
feet
and
building
a
I
forgot
to
mention
on
the
previous
iteration.
N
N
Next,
I
wanted
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
landscape
plan,
so
staff
had
presented
the
berm
itself
and
there's
a
cross-section
on
the
next
slide,
but
I
wanted
to
address
the
condition
about
extending
the
landscape
buffer
to
the
west
of
warehouse
way.
As
you
can
see
here,
we
have
a
revised
exhibit
that
extends
that
landscape
berm.
N
The
main
reason
is:
there's
a
sanitary
sewer
line
there,
as
well
as
a
gas
line,
so
those
utilities
would
prohibit
us
from
planting
significant
trees,
double
road
trees
there,
but
if
the
intent
is
to
screen
building
g
to
the
north
northeast,
the
proposed
landscape
plan
that
you
have
here
in
front
of
you
does
that
we're
planning
to
you
know,
plant
double
rows
of
landscaping
and
then
there'll
probably
be
some
additional
landscaping
adjacent
to
the
building
as
well.
So
I
wanted
to
speak
about
the
actual
buffer.
N
As
you
can
see,
it
spans
the
entire
length
of
building
a.
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
little
profile,
the
cross
section
on
the
next
slide
and
the
ones
you've
seen
basically
take
it
right
through
where
you
it
says
section:
l1,
the
middle
of
the
site
is
the
highest
point
and
then,
as
you
go
east
and
west,
the
topography
drops
off.
So
the
berm
is
actually
going
to
be
higher
and
larger
as
it
spans
to
the
east
and
west.
N
We
have
to
set
an
elevation
for
building
a
and
just
the
natural
topography,
we're
trying
to
cut
and
balance
and
fill
the
site
to
reduce.
You
know
import
and
exporting,
but
so
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that
just
that
one
section
just
shows
you
sort
of
like
the
the
lowest
portion
of
the
berm
and
then
it'll
just
get
larger
as
you
go
east
and
west
next,
and
that
this
is
similar
to
what
staff
had
presented
the
forefoot
berm
on
the
warehouse
side
that
will
screen
the
the
land
or
the
headlights
from
vehicles.
N
N
You
know
chain-link
fence,
that's
not,
as
you
know,
aesthetically
pleasing
to
the
neighbors
and
as
well
as
the
you
know.
Well,
the
the
tenants
and
the
owners
of
the
warehouse
probably
won't
even
see
that,
because
it'll
be
screened
by
landscaping
and
they'll
be
higher.
So
next
I
wanted
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
materials
this
the
buildings
will
be.
You
know,
tilt
concrete
and
there's
a
lot.
N
There's
going
to
be
additional.
You
know,
windows
and
glazing,
aluminum
storefronts
at
the
building
entries
on
office
nodes
and
then
in
your
package,
you've
seen
the
whole
elevation
of
building
a
it's
broken
up.
We
don't
have
any
blank
walls,
we're
trying
to
break
up
the
warehouses,
because
we
want
them
to
look
good
so
that
tenants
will,
you
know,
be
proud
of
occupying
those
next
and
that's
all
I
have
for
my
presentation.
Our
team
is
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
L
N
L
N
N
O
The
building
a
you're
10
feet,
you're
about
10
feet,
10
12
feet,
like
michael
said
in
that
area,
just
kind
of
as
it
varies,
but
as
it's
been
stated
before,
there
is
going
to
be
four
foot
berm
on
the
parking
lot
side.
So
you
know
when
you
look
at
finnish,
greater
the
parking
lot
compared
to
the
residents
we'll
go
up
and
then
we'll
come
back
down
slightly
to
the
parking
lot
grade.
I
Mr
chair,
yes,
mr
stead,
I
realized
this
is
probably
not
the
exact
moment
that
I
should
be
doing
this,
but
I
kind
of
let
things
move
forward
too
quickly.
I've
spoken
with
legal
prior
to
this
meeting
and
I
have
a
tangential
but
closely
tied
enough
conflict
that
I
will
recuse
myself
from
this
discussion
any
further.
Thank
you,
mr
stan.
B
P
P
P
We
were
assured
that
we
would
be
protected
and
that
they
would
make
sure
whatever
goes
next
to
us
is
appropriate.
When
we
look
up
m2,
it
definitely
doesn't
need
much
interpretation
when
it
says
it
should
be
separated
from
residential
development
and
we
are
a
land
use,
residential
development
which
achd
failed
to
put
on
for
land
use.
P
But
we
are
that
so
we
really
have
some
contention
with
that
during
our
meeting
with
the
lincoln
properties.
We
address
that
concern
to
them,
saying
we
don't
feel
protected,
because
if
you
have
m2,
you
have
some
shelled
out
buildings.
What's
going
to
prevent
you
from
doing
manufacturing,
because
I
found
one
of
their
permits
where
they
had
number
three
as
being
manufacturing.
P
P
So
the
zoning
I
noticed
there
was
some
documentation
where
it
said:
hey
you
guys
have
always
been
industrial.
You
know
what's
the
problem
well,
this
shows
you
did
a
little
research
and
in
1978
we
were
actually
agricultural
a2.
Some
of
the
residents
I
spoke
with
said
they
had
a
little
jam
jar.
They
would
just
put
their
extra
change
in
and
that
would
pay
for
their
property
tax
and
then
they
were
progressed
the
g1
and
that
was
by
80
county,
and
if
you
notice,
the
property
to
the
south
of
us
was
m1
how
it
became
m2.
P
P
P
One
of
the
commissioners
questioned
had
it
been
properly
notified
to
everyone,
because
he
found
it
strange
that
these
large
landowners,
only
out
of
93
only
three
would
show
up
and
then,
when
you
investigate
further
99
was
the
magic
number
that
they
couldn't
exceed
and
enforce
annexation
on
these
people.
So
they
were
forced
annexed.
P
The
city
said
they
gave
a
comparable
zoning
for
blue
valley
and
they
made
it
like
industrial,
and
so
that's
how
we
became
light
industrial.
We
do
have
a
conditional
use
permit.
That
was
permitted
back
in
1978
under
ada
county
and
it's
a
conditional
use
permit.
They
say
we're
non-conforming
land,
but
we
are
a
usage
that
is
being
used
by
that
cup.
That
is
legal
and
grandfathered
in
so
zoning
is
a
big
issue,
and
I
know
you
folks
can't
take
care
of
that.
I
just
want
it
on
the
record
scene.
P
P
So
basically,
this
is
when
we
did
the
land
swamp.
Mayor
beater
at
the
time
told
us
he
said.
Government
has
failed
these
people.
Somehow
it
wasn't
the
city
who
did
this,
but
it's
we
have
the
opportunity
to
make
right
what
was
wrong,
and
so
at
that
point
we
thought
well
we're
not
going
to
have
to
contend
with
this
anymore.
We'll
have
we
accept
building,
we
just
don't
want
to
accept
something
that
could
turn
into
manufacturing.
P
You
know
we'd
love
some
condo.
What
are
they
called
storage
units?
But
so
that's
that
go
to
the
next
slide
and
this
is
a
biggie.
We
did
meet
with
lincoln
properties
and
we
thought
hey.
This
would
be
great
we're
having
a
neighborhood
meeting
before
we
get
in
here.
We
can
work
everything
out
and
it
seemed
oh.
This
is
the
residential
I'm
sorry
I
had
the
backup
I
forgot.
P
I
went
to
the
current
rezoning
committee
meeting
the
engagement
meeting
where
they
were
talking
to
all
the
people
and
during
that
zoning
meeting
I
said
this
is
residential.
I
said,
but
you
don't
mention
manufactured
housing.
Where
does
that
fit
in?
They
go
oh
you're
in
here
you're.
In
residential
and
I
thought
good
we're
protected,
no,
we
weren't
okay.
P
So
anyway,
when
we
met
with
lincoln
properties,
they
had
shown
us
a
rendition
of
the
different
buildings
that
were
going
to
be
built.
Building
a
which
is
adjacent
to
our
property
was
emphasized.
It
was
very
large.
It
looked
great
and
we're
going
to
provide
you
a
buffer,
120
feet,
and
I
said
well,
is
it?
How
close
is
it
going
to
be
to
the
homes?
Well,
we're
going
to
be
across
the
fire
break,
which
was
a
pretty
good
distance?
P
P
I
had
emailed
trevor
nichol
and
I
expressed
my
concerns
saying
you
know
I'm
concerned
about
this.
You
know
blasting,
because
gowan
wrote
underpass
there.
They
had
quite
a
bit
of
dynamite.
Blasting,
and
I
said
here
you
are
right.
Next
to
a
residential,
and
I
said,
have
you
had
any
geological
reports
or
anything
like
that
done
and
he
said
well,
we
have
a
very
good
team
that
you
know
and
I'm
just
paraphrasing,
very
good
team.
P
P
This
is
what's
underneath
that
scant
layer
of
soil,
my
husband,
put
in
two
trees
for
me,
bless
his
heart.
He
had
to
go
rent
a
jackhammer
to
put
those
in.
So
it's
obvious
excavating
is
a
major
thing.
How
are
you
going
to
determine
grade
if
you're
not
excavating
for
that
building
and
later?
This
was
also
something
that
threw
us
through
a
loop.
They
said
well,
building
a
isn't
going
to
be
built
first
and
we're
like
wait.
A
minute
you
sold
building
a
is
it's
going
to
be
a
buffer.
We
switched
around.
P
The
semi-truck
bays
gave
you
passenger
now,
there's
nothing
there
and
now
that
if
I'm
hearing
right
they're
proposing
that
the
berm
be
built
when
building
a's
built-
and
I
was
told
by
trevor
again-
he
goes
well
because
we
that
wasn't
forthcoming
until
I
asked
hey
what's
on
it,
what
buildings
being
built
first
and
he
pointed
out
all
the
other
ones,
but
not
a-
and
he
said
we
might
not
even
build
that
so
I'm
like.
So
why
were
you
talking
about
all
this
protection?
N
P
And
how
you
so
nicely
switched
the
parking
lot
to
even
give
us
more
transition
when
the
three
other
major
buildings
are
putting
up
are
going
to
have
their
docking,
semi
trucks
facing
us
and
it's
very
calm
and
quiet
out
there.
Noise
carries
this
is
a
picture
I
took.
They
finally
did
a
survey.
I
noticed
this
two
days
ago,
so
these
little
flags.
P
Q
P
The
burn
would
start-
and
I
said,
have
you
surveyed
it
and
they
said
no,
we
haven't
and
I
go.
How
do
you
know
where
it's
at,
and
I
said
you
know-
we
can't
prove
this
unless
we
need
to
see
some
figures
and
I
went
out
there
myself
and
we
took
pictures
yesterday
and
the
red
flag
shows
where
the
property
line
is
their
property
line.
So
I'm
assuming
the
berm
is
going
to
go
up
there
and
another
thing
in
their
report.
They
said
they
weren't
taking
down
trees.
Q
P
Now
here's
the
rendition
they
gave
us
anybody
looking
at
that
would
say:
wow
building
a
is
the
one
that's
going
to
be
built.
First,
it's
a
it's
big,
that's
all
they're
talking
about
and
then
we're
throwing
a
loop
saying,
hey,
but
it's
not
being
built
first,
then
we
don't
get
a
berm.
What
do
we
get?
We
get
the
buildings
behind
with
all
the
docks
facing
us.
We
get
property.
P
If
you
see
this,
where
the
yellow
line
is
how
close
it
gets
to
the
manufactured
homes
plus
you're
going
to
have
blasting
excavation
heavy
excavation
and
not
knowing
where
that
grade
line's
going
to
be,
I
mean
when
they
talk
about
a
height
of
42.
Does
that
include
that
grade
that
is
so
much
higher
than
our
property?
P
And
when
I
look
up
grading
and
requirements
out
of
chapter
nine,
it
says
if
you're
grading
next
to
an
adjacent
property
that
it
should
be
at
the
same
level
as
that
property.
Now
the
berm
is
excusable,
but
beyond
that
berm,
for
that
it
just
makes
that
building
taller.
Because
the
grade
is
taller
than
our
grade,
then
the
rendition
there
just
shows
all
trees.
You
don't
see
a
parking
lot.
The
four
foot
fence
isn't
going
to
cover
the
headlights
of
those
trucks
and
next
slide.
P
So
this
is
the
berm
also
and
that
they're
showing
a
pathway
and
these
fully
developed
trees.
You
really
don't
even
see
that
building
back
there,
so
they
were
well
done.
A
lot
of
people
felt
left
down.
We
felt
like
we
couldn't
work
with
them
any
longer,
because
we
weren't
given
all
the
facts,
so
we
could
actually
look
and
and
see
if
that's
for
the
our
best
interest
or
not
erosion,
which
we
have
another
lady
who's
going
to
speak
specifically
about
it.
P
Like
I
said,
when
you
see
building
g
over
there,
it's
gonna
be
built
and
the
lights
are
gonna
go
behind
there.
The
road
goes.
There
you'll
see
all
the
lighting
going
through
there,
the
building
in
front
where
it
says
first,
when
it
be
built,
it'll,
be
there,
but
there's
not
going
to
be
any
grading
or
anything
by
us.
We're
not
going
to
have
any
protection
and
there's
no
timeline.
P
When
they're
going
to
provide
this
wonderful
barrier,
they
were
making
for
us,
and
I
had
the
same
concerns
too.
This
was
the
first
one.
They
showed
us
it's
a
bit
different
than
the
one
they
showed
you
tonight.
We
weren't
privy
to
that,
but
you
can
see
here
how
they
showed
the
person
and
this
firm
and
and
wow.
You
don't
even
see
that
warehouse.
P
P
And
you
know
this
is
the
problem
out
here.
This
is
a
road
that
doesn't
need
to
be
improved
till
2036..
This
is
what
our
kids
have
to
walk
on.
To
get
this
to
the
school
bus
every
day
and
when
there's
snow
there
there's
no
place
to
walk.
That
is
an
unusable
shoulder.
They
continue
to
build
out
in
gate
west
urd
without
any
concern
for
the
infrastructure
without
making
sidewalks
they're
going
to
they
said
again,
they
were
going
to
give
us
a
sidewalk.
P
They
said
that
in
2018,
so
I'll
believe
it
when
I
see
it
next
slide,
so
here's
a
good
shot
with
linda
puts
sally
took
this
is
what
they
get
off
of
the
bus.
Look
at
the
semi
truck
he
has
to
pass
through
a
double
line.
To
get
away
in
front
of
him
is
another
dip.
What
happens
when
another
semi's
coming
up
he's
on
that
side?
Where
is
he
gonna
go?
P
P
If
the
trucks
are
coming
out,
they
could
only
take
a
right-hand
turn
if
they're
on
the
right-hand
side
of
the
road
facing
south
or
a
left-hand
turn
if
they
were
on
the
left
side
of
the
road
facing
south.
There's
a
wonderful
mr
gas.
There
there's
a
a
freeway
entrance
exit
there
that
micron
had
built
when
they
first
put
in
never
used,
but
and
then
that
way,
all
the
traffic
south
of
blue
sage
would
go
the
other
direction.
They
wouldn't
pass
in
front
of
us
now
on
the
other
side,
past
blue
lake.
P
If
they
would
do
the
same
thing
there,
it
would
make
them
go
to
gallon.
That
would
give
us
a
nice
split
and
cut
down
on
a
lot
of
the
traffic
when
they
said
their
traffic
studies
were
within
range.
No,
they
were
4
175
trips.
They
got
a
variance
because
they
said
they
would
have
seasonal
workers
there,
so
they
got
experience.
P
P
C
P
Naturally,
we
oppose
this,
and
safety
well-being
and
health
are
differently
issues,
and
it
says
straight
in
your
definitions
of
what
is
appropriate
near
residential
and
into
what
they're
proposing
doesn't
fit,
and
we
hope
the
commission
would
look
further
into
this
and
see
what
can
be
done
about
it.
We're
expecting
a
build,
but
nothing
like
this.
Thank
you.
P
Q
B
R
Sue
sue
collins,
2199,
blue
lake
lane
boise.
I
live
in
blue
lake
valley
manufactured
mobile
home
park
on
blue
lake
lane.
Some
of
my
neighbors
in
the
street
are
retired.
Others
are
workers,
family,
disabled,
active,
just
your
typical
idaho
neighborhoods,
but
we
have
something
very,
very
special.
We
have
a
quiet
sanctuary
called
lake,
patricia
the
minute
that
I
saw
the
photos
of
the
blue
lake
property
that
was
listed.
I
knew
it
was
where
I
wanted
to
retire,
so
I
purchased
my
home
on
this
lake.
R
From
the
back
of
my
deck,
I
photographed
an
abundance
of
birds,
small
animals
and
waterfowl
coexisting
with
the
residentials.
Last
year
I
had
the
pleasure
to
watch
a
blue
heron
move
around
patricia
lake.
Every
day
this
year
we
have
two
herons
more
rare.
We
have
witnessed
migrating
canadian
swans
half
assets,
a
flock
of
protected
curlews
that
took
refuge
here
last
fall.
We
observed
a
pelican
here
for
three
to
four
months
recovering
from
an
injury.
R
The
surrounding
desert
always
surprises
us
with
creatures
in
our
yards
like
raccoons,
badgers,
snakes
and
more.
This
is
our
way
of
life.
For
over
50
years,
I've
submitted
a
list
for
of
over
a
hundred
varieties
of
wildlife
that
I've
been
photographing
photographing
at
blue
valley
and
I'm
begun
logging
them
on
the
observation
of
idaho
fish
and
game
wildlife
website.
R
R
This
is
cited
in
detail
on
the
boise
river
wetland,
riparian
habit,
key
issues
and
solutions
report.
It
also
states
that
idaho
has
already
lost
half
of
its
historic
wetland
extent,
mainly
due
to
drainage,
filling
land,
clearing
and
conversion
to
crop
land
or
business.
This
project
seems
to
be
a
continuation
of
that
process,
encroaching
wildlife
and
species
habitat.
R
The
main
concern
with
the
lincoln
project
for
me
is
the
impacts
to
the
environmental
and
wildlife
from
blasting
construction,
traffic
noise
and
other
concerns
stated
by
our
neighborhood
residents
that
could
destroy
this
beautiful
preserve
over
a
million
square
feet
of
industrial
is
planned
to
be
built,
20
50
right
in
our
backyards
in
this
residential
neighborhood.
Thank
you.
D
S
Linda
puccinelli,
2247
blue
lake
lane,
as
stated
earlier
lake,
patricia,
is
a
vital
and
environmentally
rich
habitat
for
numerous
wildlife.
The
lake
was
created
within
blue
lake
residential
park
around
50
years
ago,
with
a
depth
of
8
to
10
feet
prior
to
any
major
commercial
development
and
arbitrary
rezoning
changes
from
agricultural
to
industrial.
S
As
of
a
month
ago,
a
technician
installing
a
repaired
fountain
in
the
middle
of
the
lake
estimated
the
lake
to
be
now
only
five
feet
deep
over
a
period
of
time.
Rain
water,
along
with
sediment
and
debris
that
flows
directly
into
the
five
mile
creek,
has
made
the
lake
noticeably
shallower.
Much
of
the
neighboring
land
is
being
covered
by
hard
surfaces
of
large
buildings
with
extensive
parking
areas.
The
rain
water
running
off
of
it
takes
contaminants
into
our
lake.
S
S
Several
years
ago,
the
park
owner
spent
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
to
help
control
the
increasing
flow
of
sediment
into
the
lake.
My
husband
and
I
have
personally
in
the
last
year,
invested
up
to
three
thousand
dollars
on
products
to
help
control
the
toxic
algae
buildup
that
has
increased
during
the
decreased
water
depth.
S
These
are
some
slides
that
I
just
took
after
the
recent
rains,
and
it
shows
that
it
goes
from
the
front
where
the
lincoln
property
is
going
to
be
and
the
slides
will
show
as
it
moves
toward
our
manufactured
home
park
and
as
it
actually
glasses
under
the
bridge
and
right
into
lake,
patricia
lincoln
properties
has
proposed
three
catch
basins
on
the
far
southwest
end
of
the
project.
This
does
not
offer
protection
from
the
remainder
of
the
developed
property
that
runs
downhill
eastward
toward
eisenmann
into
10
mile
creek,
which
then
flows
directly
into
the
lake.
S
They
also
have,
in
their
plans
a
substantial
berm
running
the
length
of
the
property
with
undefined
vegetation,
which
may
or
may
not
over
a
period
of
years,
provide
erosion
protection,
as
you
can
see
in
these
slides
even
after
they
tried
some
mitigation
tactics.
The
trinity
property
across
from
blue
valley,
which
has
a
similar
slope.
The
erosion
is
still
very
much
a
problem
without
an
upfront
full
ground
cover,
runoff
and
erosion
will
continue
to
be
an
immediate
and
ongoing
environmental
pollutant
into
the
lake,
something
for
each
of
you
to
think
about.
S
We
have
always
had
city
code
and
regulations,
but
there
used
to
be
a
time
when
reason
and
citizens,
well-being
was
part
of
the
equation.
We
now
seem
to
have
evolved
to
a
place
in
the
decision-making
process
where
city
employees
all
too
often
fall
back
on
sorry,
it's
the
code
end
of
story.
This
approach
often
puts
the
citizens
in
the
position
of
feeling.
Perhaps
accurately
we
don't
matter.
S
There
is
an
old
saying.
The
expedient
cookie
cutter
approach
makes
no
one
happy
and
often
leads
to
a
long-term
unintended
consequences.
Yes
codes
matter,
but
we
equally
matter.
Please
don't
be
members
of
the
cookie
cutter
club
r
us
we
are
residents
of
a
viable,
sorely
needed,
affordable,
housing
community.
We
need
you
to
make
lincoln
property
a
quality,
residential
transitional
project.
B
T
I'm
catherine
reisenauer,
I
live
at
1973
blue
sage
lane
in
blue
valley
mobile
home
court.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
I
am
very
much
against
the
building
of
this
project.
I
really
don't
understand
how
it
it
has
even
gotten
this
far
to
me.
It
is
exactly
how
zoning
the
reason
zoning
came
into
being
in
the
first
place,
to
protect
people
from
things
like
this
happening.
T
That
project
not
only
will
will
pollute,
have
air
pollution,
water
pollution,
water,
runoff
problems,
and
I
guess
my
overriding
question
is:
who
will
be
funding
the
lawsuits
that
will
result
like?
Will
it
be
the
tenants
who
try
to
come
in
and
make
a
life
for
themselves
with
a
business
in
that
project?
T
Will
it
be
the
owners
who
come
here,
lay
down
a
million
plus
square
feet
of
impermeable
concrete
and
paving
and
then
go
back
to
seattle
or
wherever,
or
will
it
be?
The
city
who
seems
to
have
made
a
zoning
change?
No
one
knew
about,
and
apparently
I've
been
told
there
are
tax,
big
tax
breaks
being
offered
to
these
people
to
come
in
and
do
this
by
the
city.
C
U
C
B
V
I've
lived
in
boise
in
the
treasure
valley
for
almost
20
years
now,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
what
boise
needs
in
what
the
growth
is
happening,
whether
we
encourage
it
to
or
not
the
changes.
I've
just
seen
in
the
last
20
years
are
huge.
However,
I
have
in
the
last
two
years
I
have
seen
and
been
witness
to
friends
and
co-workers
being
completely
and
utterly
priced
out
of
living
in
the
treasure
valley
and
what
you
see
at
blue
sage
lane
is
affordable
housing.
V
It
is
literally
one
of
the
only
spots
only
spots
that
at
a
full-time
wage
I
can
afford
to
live
with
my
mother,
okay.
So
all
of
the
tenants
in
this
pro
proposed
development,
where
are
all
of
their
employees
supposed
to
live,
because
I
know
that
at
my
I
work
for
a
local
company
and
I
have
lost
co-workers
to.
I
have
to
move
out
of
the
valley.
V
It's
fundamentally
and
you
can
see
it
across
the
board
anytime.
You
try
and
go
anywhere,
especially
within
the
entertainment
and
like
dining
sector,
those
things
that
provide
the
like
core
part
of
what
boise
is
the
you
know
the
downtown,
the
arts
things
all
of
that
people
are
being
priced
out
of
this
area.
V
That's
an
affordable
housing
option
for
the
people
who
really
provide
like
make
the
rest
of
it
work
and
we're
losing
that
in
boise-
and
you
know
that
to
me
is
the
greatest
thing
about
blue
sage,
and
I
mean
it's
beautiful,
the
environmental,
like
the
pictures
in
some
ways.
Don't
even
do
it
justice
that
we've
seen
tonight,
but
it's
an
affordable
place
to
live
where
people
have
been
living
for
50
years
and
deserve
to
continue
living
without.
V
B
W
So
I'm
writing
an
opposition
of
this
current
development,
blue
valley.
It's
a
historically
established
vile,
viable,
sustainable,
economical,
multi-family
community.
This
project
does
not
provide
protect
or
preserve
wildlife
takes
away.
Culture
from
blue
valley
residents
does
not
fit
with
the
design
of
the
blue
valley.
Community
does
not
help
prevent
sagebrush
decline,
does
not
preserve
any
of
the
historical
value
of
the
south
eisman
area.
W
W
W
Change
the
whole
topography
of
the
land
in
the
waterway
as
it
currently
functions,
it
will
significantly
be
altered.
Air
and
water
pollution
and
other
environmental
problems
affect
everyone.
Many
of
the
problems
are
acute
and
critical.
There
are
six
emissions
which
are
contaminants
under
the
u.s
clean
air
air
act.
W
W
The
endangered
species
act
was
signed
into
law
by
richard
nixon
in
december
of
1972,
and
it
recognized
many
native
plants
and
animals
were
in
danger
of
becoming
extinct.
The
species
which
we
co-exist
are
of
aesthetic,
ecological,
educational,
recreational
and
scientific
value
to
our
nation
and
its
people.
W
W
We
did
not
get
a
chance
to
vote
to
be
annexed
in
the
city
or
to
be
a
part
of
a
urban
renewal
district
which
I
feel
labeled
as
time.
I
oppose
this.
Most
of
residents
are
low
income.
I
think
we
are
the
last
and
very
rare,
affordable
housing,
and
we
shouldn't
have
to
be
fighting
this
hard
for
you
to
protect
us,
and
I
just
have
sorry
one
more
thing
to
say.
W
B
X
X
Our
firm
just
completed
our
quarterly
update
on
vacancies,
as
it
relates
to
industrial
properties
we're
down
now
to
one
percent
and
just
for
your
info.
A
healthy
market
would
be
about
eight
to
ten
percent
that
allows
for
business
expansion,
new
businesses
coming
in
etc.
If
you
focus
in
on
the
airport
submarket,
it's
actually
point
three
percent,
so
we're
basically
out
of
space.
We
can't
accommodate
our
growing
companies
and
companies
looking
to
locate
here.
X
So
they're
really
leveraging
off
of
what
is
already
in
place,
their
design,
which
is
seven
buildings.
It
breaks
it
up.
It
keeps
it
open,
they're,
putting
in
probably
more
landscaping
than
I've
ever
seen,
an
industrial
project
they're
trying
to
address
that
and
because
they're
doing
the
different
buildings
and
number
they're
also
able
to
accommodate
a
broader
range
of
tenants
and
companies
that
are
looking
to
be
here
so
in
in
closing
and
I'll
keep
these
brief,
because
we're
nearing
the
end
here-
but
this
is
this-
is
where
these
types
of
projects
belong.
X
C
U
I
want
to
start
with
the
comments
on
the
the
zoning
you
know
where
ms
hardy
began
to
with
that
the
history
the
site
is
currently
designated
in
your
flume
as
industrial
and
it's
been
zoned
into
industrial,
since
it
was
annexed
in
2001,
and
she
asked
the
question
about.
Why
was
it
m1
before
that's
when
it
was
in
the
county?
So
ever
since
it's
been
in
the
city
for
over
20
years,
the
uses
that
are
allowed
on
this
site
have
been
known
and
already
selected
by
the
city.
So
so
we're
not
seeking
a
rezone.
U
U
There
will
be
those
turn
lanes
that
are
required
both
at
freight
street
intersection
and
at
winco
court
intersection
before
the
project
can
proceed
and
they
are
also
providing
an
extensive
pedestrian
network
with
detached
sidewalks
throughout
that
will
also
improve
that
traffic
flow.
There
will
be
no
current
connection
to
the
north,
just
stubbed
for
future
connectivity.
U
As
far
as
far
as
phasing
goes,
we
are
not
no
longer
proposing
a
phasing
plan,
nor
are
we
tied
to
a
phasing
plan,
and
so
we
will
have
flexibility.
We
might
be
able
to
provide
that
building
aid
that's
closer
to
them.
That
will,
of
course,
provide
screening
whenever
it
is
built,
but,
most
importantly,
I
think,
to
address
the
neighbors
concerns.
U
We
will
be
building
the
berm
and
landscaped
buffer
area
with
the
first
building,
no
matter
which
building
it
is,
and
so
I
think
there
was
some
concern
expressed
by
the
neighborhood
association
about
the
timing
for
that.
So
that
will
be
an
initial
improvement
to
go
ahead
and
provide
that
extensive
firming.
U
G
G
A
lot
of
sound
isn't
going
to
go
across
there,
a
lot
of
lights.
A
lot
of
things
aren't
going
to
happen
with
the
berm
or
without
the
berm.
If
that
building
a
is
not
there
for
a
year
five
years,
10
years
big
deal,
and
you
said
yeah
you're
going
to
do
this
you're
going
to
do
that,
but
you
never
really
did
say
when
you're
going
to
face
that
building.
So
if
you
have
something
more
specific,
I
would
appreciate
knowing
that
I
guess.
U
U
You
know
we
do
ask
for
flexibility
in
case
that's
not
possible,
and
so
that's
why
we
point
to
what
mitigation
we
can
provide
right
up
front,
and
that
is
that
berm
and
landscaping
area.
The
conditions
already
require
extensive
trees
that
are
already
very
mature
to
be
planted.
There
you've
got
also-
and
I
think
you
said
okay-
the
building
will
provide
additional
screening
and
that's
true,
but
if
other
buildings
are
built
first
they're
also
further
away,
and
so
the
noise
will
dissipate
so
any
that
will
also
protect
from
that.
U
B
B
B
J
My
first
question
is
for
actually
counsel,
yes,
surprise,
or
maybe
it's
for
josh
too.
So
I
think
I
can
publicly
ask
this
question
when
blue
valley
was
up-
and
I
believe
there
were
some
negotiations
with
the
city
and
the
land
swap
or
something
a
few
years
ago,
was
there
any
conditions
or
any
commitments
the
city
made
to
the
community
in
terms
of
buffering
or
protections
or
anything
else
like
that?
That
wasn't
perhaps
maybe
considered
in
the
staff
report.
K
F
B
L
L
It
doesn't.
I
know
that
six
foot
trees
aren't
you
know
30
or
40
foot
trees
at
maturity
and
I'm
very
sensitive
to
the
residents
out
there
and
the
impacts
of
construction
and
development
adjacent
to
them.
We
were
all,
I
believe,
on
the
committee
when
the
other
project
north
of
their
site
came
before
us,
and
so
you
know
this
seems
to
be
a
little
bit
more
extensive
of
some
conditions
placed
on
here
to
provide
some
protections
to
them.
L
I
would
definitely
encourage
the
applicant
to
do
everything
they
can
to
acquire
plant
material
as
soon
as
possible,
so
it
can
be
as
large
as
possible
at
the
time
of
planting.
I
know
we
say
a
minimum
of
six
feet
tall
again,
highly,
encourage
them
to
look
at
finding
and
sourcing
larger
plant
material
to
provide
additional
protections,
especially.
L
As
though
the
property
line
shared
between
the
blue
valley
residents
and
this
site
might
not
be
falling
exactly
where
improvements
to
people's
backyards
have
been
made,
so
I
just
wanted
to
be
on
the
record
talking
about
that.
There
is
some
protection
there.
I
I
feel
like
the
applicant
is,
you
know,
they're
extending
the
berm
to
the
west.
I
understand
the
easements
that
are
involved
there.
It
looks
like
there's
some
other
opportunity
for
landscaping
on
that
portion.
West,
a
warehouse
drive
or
warehouse
way.
L
D
What
I
see
on
these
projects
that
we're
getting
here
that
are
on
adjoining
sites
they're
all
doing
their
part
if
they're,
they
abut
eisemann
way
for
curb
gutter
and
sidewalk,
and
it's
kind
of
a
checkerboard
thing
going
along
all
the
pictures
that
we
see
for
the
from
the
applicant
is
the
site
immediately
adjacent
to
blue
lakes
over
there,
where
they
have
no
sidewalks
the
side.
Roads
are
terrible.
The
erosion
is
terrible.
D
K
K
D
A
Like
mr
chairman
committee
members,
the
ball
I'll
just
add,
the
achc
report
indicates
that
eisenmann
road
will
be
wiped
into
three
lanes
between
2036
and
2040,
and
that
would
include
roadway
improvements
that
design
has
not
taken
place.
Obviously,
yet,
since
it's
so
far
out,
achd
typically
holds
open.
Houses
takes
public
input
on
those
roadway
sections
and
they
can
use
that
input
with
the
available
funds
to
determine
what
the
appropriate
design
for
that
road
is,
but
that
will
take
place.
You
know
when
this
comes
up
for
improvement,
which
is
again
some
time
out.
L
Mr
chairman,
yes,
mr
simple
yeah,
I
I
guess
I
wanted
to
add
a
couple
other
comments
to
community
members
of
allah's
question
comments.
Also,
I,
when
I'm
encouraging
things,
I
happen
to
know
that
there's
a
few
commissioners
on
achd
their
board.
Now
that
are
much
more
inclined
to
look
at
pedestrian
safety
and
especially
when
there's
conditions
like
those
that
are
occurring
along
eisenmann
in
front
of
blue
valley.
L
I'm
sure
that
the
neighborhood
association
or
I'm
hoping
that
they've
reached
out
to
them
in
the
past,
but
I
would
again
encourage
them
to
reach
out
to
achd
commissioners
to
show
them
the
condition
of
this
roadway
in
front
of
them,
because
it
is
in
a
state
that
is
not
conducive
to
pedestrian
safety.
There's
not
much.
We
can
do
as
a
design
review
committee
for
boise
to
require
that
to
be
done,
but
knowing
that
there
are
some
commissioners
that
are,
I
guess,
encouraging
those
improvements
to
occur.
L
That
could
be
a
route
for
getting
achd
to
accelerate,
at
least
that
portion
of
the
improvement,
because
it
is
challenging
when
there
are,
are
these
projects
going
in
around
them
that
only
for
the
fact
that
they
don't
abut
eisenmen
adjacent
to
them
that
these
aren't
being
completed.
So
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
to
give
some
options
for
the
residents
there
to
for
avenues
that
could
help
improve
that
condition.
When
we
don't
really
have
the
the
authority
to
to
require
someone
to
do
that,
off-site
improvement.
G
Mr
chairman,
yes
more
in
line
of
comments
and
emotion
at
this
point
from
from
our
perspective,
the
if
there
wasn't
that
residential
area
sitting
there
and
you
weren't
here
telling
us
all
these
things.
If
we
look
at
the
buildings
that
are
being
proposed
in
the
internal
circulation
and
all
the
reports
that
you've
done
at
face
value,
it's
a
wonderful
project
and
it
meets
an
economic
need
that
everybody
wouldn't
have
trouble,
arguing
that
it
isn't
a
good
thing
that
we
don't
want
it
to
have
happen.
G
G
The
first
people
I
would
want
to
send
a
message
to
would
be
a
city
council
to
be
sure
that
they
aren't
haven't
misrepresented
what
they
said
to
these
people
in
terms
of
trying
to
do
the
right
thing
for
them
and
ask
them.
What
is
that?
Is
this
consistent
with
what
they
envisioned
when
the
other
project
went
through
I'd
ask
that
I'd
ask
the
planning
and
zoning
commission.
G
B
I
guess
we
were
looked
at
kind
of
bring
this
back
to
as
you're
saying
just
the
project
in
general,
I
do
believe
the
applicants
put
forth
some
design
strategies
to
try
to
minimize
a
lot
of
the
concerns
with
the
adjacent
neighborhood
being
it.
Some
of
the
other
projects
that
we've
seen
in
these
areas
are
a
million
square
feet
in
a
single
building.
L
L
We
see
a
lot
of
these
and
it's
unfortunate
that
you
know
a
lot
of
the
information
is
outside
or
the
the
decision
making
has
either
been
completed
before
we
get
to
see
it
or
it's
outside
of
our
purview.
You
know
we
can
make
a
lot
of
recommendations.
We
can
you
know
that
being
said,
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
power
to
change
those
items.
We
we,
you
know
all
of
these
minutes
and
they
go
in
front
of
city
council
for
their
review.
I
believe-
and
you
know
we
we
would
tonight-
I'm
encouraging.
L
How
that
happened
20
years
ago
or
or
longer
ago,
is
unfortunately
not
something
that
we
can
really
change
at
this
point
you
know
by
by
making
by
having
this
conversation,
though,
I
think
it's
showing
that
you
know
we
we
want
to
try
to
protect
the
residents
of
of
the
residential
communities
in
in
our
area.
We
have
asked
for
this
applicant
to
provide
some
changes
to
their
site
design,
which
they
they
did.
L
If
there
was
something
that
prohibited
this
completely
and
we
might
not
like
the
proximity
to
the
residential
zone.
You
know,
but
ultimately
they
do.
You
know
internal
of
the
project
and
what
they've
done
to
revise
this
does
meet
or
exceed
a
lot
of
our
standards
on
the
design
review
committee,
and
I
guess
I'm
going
to
take
a
stab
at
emotion,
because
I
think
that
we
need
to
get
this
get
through
this
and
allow
the
the
next
steps
to
occur
on
it.
L
G
L
L
G
Chairman,
yes,
mr
d,
with
the
consent
of
the
person
making
the
motion-
and
I
wanted
to
wait
for
the
second
to
be
sure
that
everybody
might
have
an
agreement.
Could
I
add
to
them
to
our
motion
that
we
would
request
that
our
that
staff
express
our
concerns
for
addressing
equitable
solutions
within
for
each
of
the
people
we've
talked
about.
G
G
G
G
B
B
J
L
Chair
and
I
all
of
the
comments
that
have
been
made
after
the
motion
and
the
second
I'm
in
total
agreement
with
as
well,
I
think
that
this
needs
to
be
brought
to
the
attention
to
the
elected
officials
of
our
city.
I
think
that
there's
been
a
disconnect
somewhere
and
it
just
needs
to
be
addressed
somehow.