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A
B
C
D
C
It
was
right
before
where
we
arrived,
it
was
proposing.
Maybe
we
hold
on
elections
until
next
month.
If
we
want
to
have
a
few
more
of
our
fellow
Commissioners
present,
how
does
everyone
feel
about
that
idea?
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Gillespie.
D
Is
obviously
the
issue
to
me
is
if
either
Janelle
or
Jennifer
would
like
to
be
chairman,
it
would
be
unfortunate
to
move
past
them.
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
think
Meredith
wants
to
I
think
it
would
be
best
practice,
sort
of
not
to
have
Meredith
be
the
chairman
again,
but
I'm.
It's
fine
if
she
wants
to
but
I,
don't
know
where
Jennifer
or
Janelle
are
in
terms
of
what
they
want.
E
F
We
had
a
conversation
about
it
being
elections
at
the
last
meeting.
No
one
was
raising
their
hands
saying
that
they
wanted
to
do
it.
I
mean
we
even
talked
about
well,
would
Bob
be
cons,
you
know,
consider
doing
it
a
second
term,
so
I
don't
think
personally
that
it's
going
to
be
an
issue.
I
think
if
it
were,
someone
would
have
said
something
at
this
point:
they're
they're,
clearly
not
here.
We
know
this
is
the
night
of
Elections
and
I
would
just
propose
that
we
move
forward.
Okay,.
C
Come
on
Mr
chair,
commissioner.
G
Blanchard
I
will
not
be
a
candidate,
and
I
will
accept
that
result.
I
would
I
would
like
to
nominate.
G
F
C
C
May
no
I
I
I
appreciate
the
nomination
and
I
would
continue
it
like
I
appreciate
the
nomination
and
I
would
continue
on
all
right.
Let's
chair.
H
Oh,
but
in
all,
in
all
truth,
in
all
honesty,
I
I
just
think
it's
important
that
positive
things
are
said
out
loud
and
I
just
want
to
take
a
minute
and
I
think
I'm
speaking
on
pretty
much
everybody
on
behalf
of
pnz,
that
just
kudos
to
you
I
think
that
this
last
year
we've
had
you
know
obviously
a
number
of
difficult
hearings
at
times
just
like
every
year,
I
guess,
but
to
your
credit,
I
think
that
you've
done
a
fantastic
job,
your
demeanor,
the
way
that
you
interact
with
the
public
and
the
technology
that
was
thrust
upon
you
and
forced
upon
you
is
zoom,
which
is
a
bit
of
a
you
know
it's
permanent
now,
but
a
little
new
I
just
wanted
to
say.
H
C
A
D
C
And
call
the
vote
all
right,
I'm
just
going
to
run
down
the
list
here,
commissioner,
instead
is
absent.
Commissioner
Schaefer
I,
commissioner
Squires.
I
I
C
C
B
All
right,
so,
let's
hop
into
a
gender
review
Oh,
but
before
we
go
over
tonight's
agenda,
I
just
wanted
to
flag
for
everybody
to
reserve
the
24th
through
the
27th,
we're
gonna
have
of
April
okay
for
zoning
code
rewrite
that's
the
tentative
dates
right
now.
I
will
let
you
know
when
that
becomes
finalized,
but
just
wanted
to
get
that
out.
There
right
now
is.
B
Believe
it
right
now
it's
just
evening,
but
we'll
let
you
know
as
we
work
through,
that
for
sure.
J
K
Got
a
question
for
Crystal
Mr
chair:
okay:
go
for
it
John!
So
what
so,
there's
two
meetings
we
have
two
hearings
in
February
is
that
correct?
Do
we
have
one
next
week
as
well.
C
B
I
just
wanted
to
get
that
out
here
right
now,
so
it's
no
surprises
and
then
we
will
follow
up
when
we
get
details.
Finalized.
B
So
we
have
a
big
agenda
tonight.
We
have
had
a
number
of
deferrals
from
last
month,
so
so
there's
that
we
do,
as
you
just
clarified,
have
two
hearings
next
month.
So
if
we
do
have
to
call
it
early,
we
don't
get
through
everything
we
can
just
push
it
to
next
month.
So
no
worries
about
that.
No
need
to
kill
ourselves
going
late
tonight,
so
it's
at
yoga
discretion,
but
the
first
two
things
we
have
are
two
time:
extensions
items,
A
and
B.
B
It
is
at
2370
South,
Maple,
Grove
Road
and
it's
a
two
year
time
extension
for
a
conditional
use
permit
for
outdoor
storage
within
a
self
storage
facility
in
an
M1,
DDA
Zone,
and
then
there's
also
a
variance
to
encroach
into
the
rear
inside
setbacks.
That
was
also
included
in
that.
So
we
can
try
for
that.
On
the
consent
agenda.
Item
B
is
CVA
2034
with
Rodney
Evans
and
partners.
Llc,
that's
at
1511,
South,
Robert
Street.
B
B
B
Sir
item
one
is
car
2234
with
pivot
North
architecture.
This
was
deferred
from
December
5th
2022.
It
is
a
rezone
request
at
672
South
Ash
Street,
approximately
0.87
Acres
from
an
roddd
residential
office,
with
downtown
design,
review
to
c5dda
Central
business
with
a
central
business
with
downtown
design,
review
and
development
agreement
Zone.
That
is
a
mouthful
say
that
five
times
fast,
we
are
recommending
approval.
But
we
are
hearing
that
tonight
due
to
some
folks
expected
to
show
up
okay
item
two
is
cup
2259
with
ursat
Architects
at
114,
South,
23rd
Street.
B
B
Three
is
back
again:
it's
car
2211,
PUD,
2228
and
SUV
2235
at
6776,
East
Warm,
Spring
Avenue,
and
this
is
an
annexation
of
approximately
3.2
acres
to
r2da,
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development
comprised
of
33
attached,
single-family
Townhomes
and
then
a
preliminary
plot
for
a
residential
subdivision,
comprised
of
33
buildable
and
three
common
Lots
on
3.2
acres
in
that
proposed
r2d
da
Zone.
B
We
are
recommending
approval,
but
we
do
have
some
neighborhood
oppositions,
so
we
will
be
hearing
that
one
this
evening
as
well
item
four
is
PUD
2269,
it's
again
with
Rodney
Evans
and
partners
LLC
it's
at
911
North,
Shamrock
Street,
and
this
is
a
modification
to
a
previous
conditional
use
permit
for
Planned
residential
development
of
24
single-family
dwellings.
We
are
recommending
approval
on
the
request
to
modify
condition,
4
and
a
denial
to
modify
condition
three,
so
we
will
be
hearing
that
item
five
is
PUD
2262
and
SUV
2264
with
platform
architecture
design.
B
C
B
B
Okay
and
six
okay,
I
lost
my
place
item.
Six
is
PUD
2253
and
scp-2255,
and
this
is
with
Rodney
Evans
and
partners
pllc,
and
this
is
at
478
and
7
or
506
West
Highland
Street.
It's
a
conditional
use
permit
for
PUD,
comprised
of
five
single-family
units
on
just
over
half
an
acre
in
an
r1c
Zone
and
an
accompanying
preliminary
plat
for
one
common
and
five
buildable
Lots.
We
are
recommending
approval,
but
we
did
have
neighborhood
opposition
on
that.
So
we
will
be
hearing
it
item.
B
Seven
is
PUD
2239
and
scp-2250
with
new
design
architecture
at
777,
West,
Fairview
Ave.
They
are
requesting
deferral
not
to
a
date
certain
they
just
deferred
to
another
day.
So
that
is
what
we
are
recommending
item.
C
B
Into
the
Oblivion
and
then
item
eight
is
Sierra
2236
for
Raya
llc
at
7050
South,
Federal
Way.
This
is
an
annexation
of
approximately
4.16
acres
to
an
m1d
light
industrial
with
design
review
Zone.
We
are
recommending
approval
and
we
can
try
for
consent.
On
that
one
item:
nine
is
cup
2260
for
yesco
llc
at
355,
South
3rd
Street,
it's
a
cup
to
add
an
electric
message
display
to
an
existing
Monument
sign
associated
with
a
bank
on
0.9119
acres
and
then
Rodd
Zone.
We
are
recommending
approval
and
we
can
try
for
consent
on
that
item.
B
10
is
CVA
2235
with
ersted
Architects.
That's
at
1005,
West,
Grove
Street,
the
variance
to
exceed
the
maximum
floor
area
ratio
for
non-residential
use
on
0.89
acres
in
the
downtown
c5dd
Zone.
We
are
recommending
approval,
and
so
we
can
try
for
consent.
On
that.
Just
a
note:
I
will
be
presenting
that
item
if
it
does
need
a
public
hearing.
Okay,.
B
B
So
just
a
quick
sum:
it
up.
We
will
be
hearing
item
one
two,
three,
four
five
and
six
we
can
try.
We
can
do
first,
seven,
and
then
we
can
try
for
consent
on
a
b,
8,
9,
10
and
11.
C
B
Everyone
from
the
public
entering
the
hearing
virtually
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak
as
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion,
you'll
be
called
upon
and
unmuted.
There
is
a
chat
function
in
Zoom.
However,
this
is
not
part
of
the
record
and
should
only
be
used
if
technical
difficulties
arise.
Our
procedures
for
public
hearings
begin
with
a
presentation
from
the
planning
team,
then
we'll
go
to
the
applicant
and
then
the
representative
of
the
registered
neighborhood
association,
followed
by
questions
from
the
commission.
B
After
that,
we
proceed
to
public
testimony,
starting
with
those
who
are
in
person,
then
who
signed
up
on
the
sign
up
sheets
in
advance
and
then
anyone
else
who
raises
their
hand
virtually
if
you
are
attending
through
your
telephone,
you
can
type
in
Star
9.
To
raise
your
hand,
each
member
of
the
public
is
allowed
up
to
three
minutes
for
Testimony.
We
are
stripped
this
time
as
it
is
limited
in
code.
Finally,
the
applicant
is
allowed
five
minutes
for
rebuttal,
after
which
the
hearing
will
be
closed
and
the
commission
will
deliberate
and
render
a
decision.
C
Crystal
good
evening
we
are
citizen
volunteers
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
approved
by
the
city
council.
We
make
final
decisions
on
conditional
use,
permits,
variances
and
appeals
and
recommendations
to
the
city
council
on
subdivisions,
rezones,
annexations
and
code
or
comprehensive
plan
amendments.
Any
decision
made
tonight
may
be
appealed
to
the
city
council,
provided
that
the
appeal
is
filed
within
10
days
of
this
hearing.
In
order
to
file
an
appeal
you
must
have
given
written
or
oral
testimony
at
tonight's
meeting.
That's
why
it's
important
to
give
your
name
and
address
when
you
testify
tonight.
C
We
utilize
a
consent
agenda.
This
means
that
if
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report,
and
if
there
is
no
public
opposition,
then
it
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda.
All
items
that
are
placed
on
the
consent
agenda
are
approved
with
one
motion
without
further
public
comment:
four
items
not
on
the
consent
agenda,
who
will
hold
a
full
public
Hearing
in
the
order
just
detailed
a
few
minutes
ago
with
staff,
applicant
neighborhood
association
and
then
public
testimony.
C
A
H
C
I
think
we'll
take
up
the
deferral
first
and
then
move
on
to
consent,
after
that,
so
we're
gonna
jump
ahead
right
up
to
item
number,
seven
to
start
out.
This
is
item
PUD
22-39,
new
design
architecture
project
address
is
777-777,
West,
Fairview
Avenue.
It's
a
conditional
use
permit
for
plan
residential
development,
comprised
of
16
single
family
units
on
2.1
acres
in
the
c2d
zone
and
then
there's
the
associated
preliminary
preliminary
plaid
that's
sub.
22-50
I
understand
that
the
applicant
would
like
to
defer
this
item
to
a
date
in
the
future.
C
Yeah,
yes,
is
there?
Anyone
well
I,
mean
I'm
concerned
that
we
don't
have
an
applicant
and
then
we
don't
know
where
they're
gonna
just
check
it
yeah.
Well,
it's
it's
a
valid
question.
Is
there
anyone
here
that
would
like
to
testify
in
opposition
to
either
of
these
items,
PUD,
22-39
and
SUV
22-50.
C
C
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
All
right.
Next,
we'll
take
up
the
items
that
are
eligible
for
the
consent
agenda.
Without
objection,
I'll
place
the
minutes
from
our
December
5th
2022
and
our
December
12
20
2022
meetings
on
the
consent
agenda
and
then
next
consideration
is
item.
A
this
is
cup
18-96
and
CVA.
18-68
project
address
is
2370
South
Maple,
Grove
Road.
C
C
And
then
likewise,
Item
B
is
CVA,
20-34,
Rodney,
Evans
and
partners.
Llc
project
address
is
1511
South
Robert
Street.
Here
again,
this
applicant
is
requesting
a
two-year
time
extension
on
this
particular
project,
which
is
a
variance
to
encroach
into
the
site
setbacks.
So
without
objection,
I'll,
Place,
Item,
B
on
the
consent
agenda
and
then
jumping
ahead.
C
Up
to
item
number
eight,
this
is
car
22-36
Ria
LLC
at
7050
South,
Federal
Way.
This
is
an
annexation
of
approximately
4.16
Acres
with
an
m1d
zone.
Is
the
applicant
present
tonight.
A
C
And
is
there
anyone
here
hoping
to
speak
in
opposition
to
this
item
again?
This
is
item
number
eight
car,
22-36,
Mr.
M
C
Great
thank
you
Mr
Meagle,
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
staff
report?
Okay,
terrific!
Okay!
Is
there
anyone
again
here
to
speak
in
opposition
to
this
item.
C
C
C
Great
thank
you
and
are
you
in
agreement
you're
in
agreement
with
the
terms
and
condition
of
the
staff
report.
C
Yep
looks
like
Miss
Charleston
put
his
hand
down
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
place
item
number
nine
on
the
consent
agenda.
Foreign
next
item
number
10.,
CVA,
22-35,
erstad,
architects
at
1005,
West,
Grove
Street.
This
is
a
variance
to
exceed
the
maximum
floor
area
ratio
for
non-residential
uses
on
0.89
acres
in
a
c5dd
Zone,
and
is
the
applicant
present
this
evening
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
staff
report?
C
C
Okay,
very
good,
we'll
go
ahead
and
place
item
10
on
the
consent
agenda.
A
C
There
can
you
hear
me:
okay,
sorry,
yes,
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
staff
report.
C
C
H
I'd
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
the
consent
agenda,
inclusive
of
meeting
minutes
from
December
5th
and
12th
item
a
a
Time
extension
2370
South
Maple
Grove,
Road,
Item,
B
time
extension
for
1511,
South,
Robert,
Street
and
item
eight
eight,
an
annexation
request
at
70,
50,
South,
Federal,
Way
item
nine,
a
conditional
use
permit
application
at
355,
South
3rd
Street
item
number
10,
a
variance
at
1005,
West,
Grove,
Street
and
item
number
11.
H
C
C
Okay,
great,
we
will
now
return
back
to
the
top
of
our
agenda
and
carry
on
with
this
new
business,
starting
with
item
number
one.
This
is
car
22-34,
pivot,
North
architecture.
This
was
deferred
from
our
meeting
on
December
5th
of
last
year.
Address
is
672
South,
Ash
Street.
This
is
a
rezone
of
approximately
0.887
Acres
from
roddd
to
c5dd,
with
a
da
first
we're
going
to
hear
from
staff
Jesse
Lyle.
E
E
Good
evening,
Mr,
chair
and
Commissioners,
the
item
before
you
is
car
22-34,
a
rezone
of
approximately
0.87
Acres
from
roddd
to
c5dda,
located
at
672
Ash
Street.
The
property
is
designated
as
mixed
use
on
the
future.
Land
use
map
and
other
designations
nearby
include
downtown
mixed
use,
the
BSU
master
plan
and
parks
and
open
space.
E
The
applicant
is
requesting
to
rezone
four
Parcels
that
contain
a
total
of
16,
naturally
occurring
affordable
units.
The
properties
are
located
in
the
Pioneer
neighborhood
District
of
the
River
Street
master
plan
and
are
adjacent
to
two
Transit
routes.
With
the
nearest
Stop,
approximately
350
feet
to
the
Northwest,
the
master
plan
emphasizes
sustainability
and
the
provision
of
Workforce
housing.
It
also
identifies
the
areas
of
the
edge
of
the
neighborhood,
such
as
a
subject
property
to
redevelop
with
neighborhoods
serving
commercial
uses.
Due
to
these
recommendations,
a
development
agreement
is
recommended.
E
The
draft
of
element
agreement
includes
supervision
to
provide
units
reserve
for
tenants
making
100
of
the
area
media
income
or
below,
in
coordination
with
CCDC,
to
provide
for
some
commercial
space
on
either
end
of
the
project
and
to
incorporate
sustainability
techniques.
Among
other
things,
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
mixture
of
Studio
to
two
bedroom
units
with
Podium
parking
and
activated
uses
on
the
ground
floor.
E
C
P
Q
Pepe
with
the
chase
mixes,
731
West,
Windsor
Windermere.
Excuse
me
Boise
Idaho.
Thank
you.
Commissioners
chairman
I
think
it's
important
to
really
understand
three
very
key
things
and
the
reasons
why
we're
standing
before
you
today,
as
mentioned
before
their
their
new
zoning,
that's
planned
for
this
area,
is
ultimately
could
be
built
there
by
right.
This
is
really
a
timing
question
on
trying
to
get
the
current
units
that
are
there
built
into
the
current
project
and
we
have
a
funding
support
through
CCDC.
That
will
allow
us
to
do
that.
Q
So
timing
becomes
very
critical,
so
the
attainable
housing
is
a
major
part
of
that,
so
we've
been
working
with
CCDC
and
with
the
City
Housing
and
Community
Development
Division
to
try
and
craft
language
around
the
development
agreement
that
we
can
move
forward
with
and
be
successful
to
build
this
project
and
build
those
units
within
the
project.
Q
So
approval
tonight
helps
us
move
forward
with
that
plan.
Anything
that
would
slow
that
down
is
in
hindrance
because
the
urban
renewal
District
that
this
currently
sits
in
does
expire
and
our
timeline
is
very
tight
to
complete
this
project
within
the
timeline
of
that
District.
Expiring,
so
with
that
I'm
gonna,
let
Ian
really
dive
into
the
documents
and
give
you
some
more
insight
on
what
we
plan
to
build.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
appreciate.
P
It
Dean
all
right,
let's
see
if
I
can
figure
out
how
to
use
this.
There
we
go.
This
is
a
quick
snapshot
of
that
timeline.
P
That
Dean
was
referencing
the
big
picture
item
there
is
the
CC
District
CCDC
District,
closing
May
2025,
so
that's
kind
of
when
we're
targeting
completion
of
the
project,
I'll
kind
of
gloss
through
some
of
the
contextual
information
that
Jesse
already
covered
so,
as
just
said,
we're
on
River
Street,
hemmed
in
by
11th
to
the
East
and
Ash
Street
to
the
West,
currently
in
the
roddd,
with
a
C5
directly
adjacent
to
us.
P
P
This
is
just
a
snapshot
of
the
currently
the
zoning
code
rewrite
conversion
map.
So,
as
you
can
see,
that
area
is
slated
for
a
MX-5
which
is
the
equivalent
of
a
C5.
Today,
land
use
map,
so
the
land
use
falls
under
mixed
use.
We
feel
that
what
we're
proposing
with
the
multi-family
residential
and
ground
floor,
commercial
space
Falls
right
into
that
category,.
P
P
So
we
fall
in
the
Pioneer
neighborhood
area
and,
as
you
can
see,
there
are
several
projects
that
provide
a
variety
of
housing,
all
the
way
from
shelter,
housing,
affordable
senior
housing,
market
rate,
Workforce,
and
so
we've
really
viewed
this
project
as
contributing
to
that
neighborhood.
Adding
to
that
diverse,
diverse,
affordable
mixed-use
area,
one
of
the
other
key
components
that
we
were
reviewing
with
the
Pioneer
neighborhood
is
the
incorporation
of
the
commercial
on
the
periphery,
so
we're
kind
of
on
the
Southeast
on
11th
street,
so
incorporating
commercial
space
at
that
street.
P
What
we're
proposing
is
a
five
over
one,
Podium
style.
Building
with
two
levels
of
parking
ground
floor
has
commercial
off
of
11th
and
river.
We
felt
like
that
was
the
more
appropriate
location
for
it.
Kind
of
off
the
busier
Street,
whereas
the
residential
Lobby
and
entry
is
off
of
Ash
Street
kind
of
facing
a
more
residential
area.
P
Ground
floor
is
activated
with
a
fitness
space,
Bike
Shop
additional
units
on
River
and
in
that
commercial
area
parking
is
solely
accessed
off
the
alley,
we're
not
proposing
any
parking
or
vehicular
access
off
of
Ash,
River
or
11th.
P
The
upper
floors
consist
of
a
variety
of
two
bedroom:
one
bedroom
and
Studio
units,
approximately
127
units
total.
So
this
is
levels
two
through
four
two
through
five.
The
sixth
floor
is
very
similar.
We
have
a
community
space
on
the
northwest
of
the
building
with
the
roof
deck
that
will
have
views
to
downtown
the
River
and
the
foothills.
P
Here's
some
preliminary
kind
of
views
that
we
put
together
to
help
get
an
idea
of
how
we've
broken
up
the
massing
of
the
building
Incorporated
high
quality
materials
and
really
tried
to
highlight
that
ground
floor.
These
are
obviously
in
the
works
and
we'll
continue
to
develop
them
as
we
move
forward
with
design
review,
and
this
view
is
from
11th
Street,
you
can
see
the
River
Line
phase
one
project
in
the
background,
just
to
kind
of
give
some
context
and
scale.
That's
a
four-story
Apartment
project
being
built
across
the
alley.
P
I
mean
I
have
some
data
in
here.
If
we
need
to
dive
into
any
specifics
on
the
units
or
Square
footages,
just
to
summarize
again
asking
for
a
rezone
of
Ro
to
C5,
mainly
for
height
increase
and
a
density
increase,
we're
looking
to
promote
and
enhance
a
walkable
mixed
income
neighborhood,
which
is
highlighted
in
that
Pioneer
neighborhood
master
plan
we're
looking
to
activate
River
Street
with
commercial
space
and
residential
amenities
and
we're
looking
to
provide
Transit
oriented,
Housing
close
to
downtown
with
a
walkable
community
and
contribute
to
the
long-term
to
sustainability
of
the
neighborhood.
D
Hi
Jesse
how?
How
set
in
stone
in
the
D.A
is
the
the
amount
of
space
devoted
to
commercial?
Is
there
some
flexibility
in
there
for
more
or
less
commercial
space,
depending
on
the
you
know,
the
fundamental
demand
for
that
space.
E
E
I
think
right
now,
as
written
I
had
1200
square
feet,
was
the
minimum
I
think
the
applicant
was
requesting
a
little
bit
less
than
that.
But
that
is
something
that
we
can
discuss
tonight
as
well.
F
Great
job
on
this
report,
question
I
did
have
a
lot
of
times
when
there's
rezones
attached
without
any
other
development
application.
We
attach
it
we
within
the
development
agreement.
We
tie
it
to
a
certain
elevation,
as
I
was
going
through
the
report.
Obviously
we
didn't
have
elevations
presented
to
us.
We
just
did
tonight.
Are
you
all
thinking
prior
to
council
that
we
would
tie
this
to
an
elevation
just
for
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
aesthetic
that
we
want
for
this
project?.
E
Madam,
chair
Commissioners,
that's
another
thing
that
we
can
discuss
tonight
and
make
a
recommendation
on.
Like
you
said,
we
didn't
have
elevations
prior
to
this
point.
I
do
believe
this
has
to
go
through
design
review
and
some
other
steps
as
well.
So
there's
going
to
be
other
opportunities
to
look
at
this
okay.
Thank
you.
D
Madam
Mr
chairman
and
commissioner
Westby,
so
this
question
for
for
you
fellas,
so
if
we
did
put
in
a
condition
that
the
specific
drawings
or
plans
or
elevations
you
be,
you
presented,
be
incorporated
in
development
agreement.
Would
you
you
be
averse
to
that?
Q
Happy
to
if
these
documents
become
part
of
the
development
agreement,
without
the
context
of
knowing
what
design
review
is
going
to
require
and
any
change
associated
with
that.
We
would
then
have
to
come
back
to
this
group
for
any
changes
associated
with
that
addition
to
that,
we
also
worked
with
staff
to
try
and
make
sure
that
we
had
some
flexibility
with
growth
of
the
entire
building
or
reduction
of
the
entire
building
to
meet
the
intents
and
wants
to
need,
so
those
have
already
been
discussed
and
built
into
that
development
agreement.
At
this
point.
D
Mr,
chairman
yeah,
please
don't
would
you
like
this
gentleman
to
give
his
name
and
address.
C
C
C
So,
having
said
all
that,
you're
still,
we
prefer
that
we
not
reference
that
elevation
with
a
with
an
additional
condition.
Tonight.
Yes,
I
would
prefer
that
okay.
Q
Okay,
just
to
be
clear,
I
think
we
can
talk
about
height
and
width
and
those
sort
of
things
in
terms
of
context
of
not
being
bigger
than
if
there's
concerns
about
it
being
larger
than
or
of
scale
that
you
want
to
make
sure
it's
not
bigger
than.
But
if
we
start
talking
about
the
context
about
having
to
look
a
certain
way,
my
worry
would
be.
We
may
get
in
a
circular
situation
where
you
just
don't
have
time
for
at
this
point.
Okay,.
H
A
couple
questions
here:
if
I
can
this
first
one's
probably
going
to
be
for
staff
in
the
D.A
section
under
specific
requirements,
we
talk
about
the
the
tenant
relocation
package
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
there
I
mean
there's
tenants
in
these
four
buildings.
Now
are
any
of
these
units
already
Ami
below
80
Ami.
As
we
are
aware,.
E
H
E
Q
Working
with
the
city
we've
done
this,
we
actually
did
it
across
the
alley.
There
were
trailers
and
other
folks
living
there
before
we
built
that
building
and
really
it's
early
engagement
and
assistance
process
and
there's
there's
a
lot
of
help
and
assistance
in
this
community.
But
it's
really
connecting
those
tenants
to
the
right
people
to
work
with
to
make
sure
that
they
find
a
place
to
go
and
working
with
them
as
early
as
possible,
so
that
doesn't
become
a
I'm.
Q
Sorry,
you
need
to
find
a
home
in
30
days
and
we
we
were
successful
across
the
alley
and
in
this
in
this
neighborhood
and
doing
that
we
intend
to
engage
in
the
same
way
we've
already
engaged
with
most
of
the
tentative,
not
all
of
them.
At
this
point
to
start
talking
about.
You
know
this
is
a
year
or
so
out,
but
let's
make
sure
that
when
and
if
you
plan
on
moving
we're
there
to
help,
you
find
the
right
place
to
move
to.
H
L
H
A
H
Nearest
marked
crosswalk
from
the
11th
Street
intersection
is
about
700
800
feet
to
the
west
and
about
900
feet
to
the
other
intersection
to
the
east.
So
my
question
is:
unless
I
didn't
I,
don't
think
I
missed
this,
but
if
I
did
please
correct
me
we're
not
requiring
a
marked
crosswalk
in
any
kind
of
a
flashing
Beacon
to
cross
11th
to
get
towards
the
the
Greenbelt.
Are
we
just.
H
H
Straight
line
to
the
Greenville
that
out
of
the
way
I
believe
again,
we
can
measure
this
but
I
I
believe
maybe
from
the
corner
you're
about
400,
but
I
the
way
I
measured.
It
was
about
700
feet
away
to
that
I
think
it's
a
hawk
signal
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
The,
Pedestrian,
hybrid
Beacon,
the
other
way
to
the
east.
That's
farther.
Q
O
E
Commissioners,
no,
we
do
not
know
the
exact
plans
for
ccdc's
11th
Street.
You
know
plans
for
connection
there,
but
no
that
was
not
discussed
at
this
point
in
time,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
projects
in
flux
in
this
area.
Okay,.
C
K
Mr
chair
question
for
staff
Jesse
piggybacking
on
commissioner
danley's
questions
about
pedestrian
facilities,
I'm
confused
about
compass's
report,
saying
that
pedestrian
stress
is
increased
by
what
looks
to
be
a
good
streetscape
and
Street
activation
for
with
this
project.
Can
you
explain
why
Compass
thinks
this
is
going
to
be
increased
pedestrian
stress
or
is
that
an
elite?
What
commissioner
Danley
was
asking.
E
Mr,
chair,
Commissioners
I'm,
not
exactly
sure
compass's
reasoning
for
that,
but
I
guess
I
would
assume
that
it's
because
there
would
be
more
people
using
that
area
for
pedestrians,
but
I,
don't
know
their
exact
formula.
No
thanks.
C
Dean
is
the
I
believe,
there's
some
pretty
really
high
transmission
lines.
There
are
along
the
road.
There
are.
Those
you
know,
I've
been
assuming
they're
gonna
remain
in
place.
Is
that
the.
Q
Player
have
you
had
that
conversation
yeah
we've
actually
had
multiple
conversations
with
Idaho
Power
and
engage
them
on
options
and
we'll
actually
look
at
it.
If
you
looked
along
river,
there's
actually
transmission
lines
on
both
sides.
The
South
Side
actually
has
an
easement
for
utilities.
It's
not
currently
on
the
North
side,
so
we're
in
Communications
with
them
CCDC
and
the
other
landowners
in
the
area
to
try
and
centralize
those
as
a
better
plan
to
help
clean
up
the
overhead
lines
in
the
area.
That
would
be
great.
Okay,.
C
Okay,
one
more
call
for
questions
all
right,
very
good
thanks
thanks
we'll
go
ahead
and
now
open
up
this
item
for
public
testimony.
We
had
one
percent
ahead
of
time
looks
like
Truman,
Bishop,
Mr,
Bishop
gonna
come
on
up.
You
know
three
minutes
to
testify
here.
R
R
R
So
that's
the
biggest
issue
is
parking's
already
an
issue.
It's
just
going
to
become
a
bigger
issue,
a
bigger
issue,
a
bigger
issue,
I,
don't
know
who
Compass
even
is,
but
one
of
the
reasons
why
they
might
think
there's
going
to
be
more
pedestrian
traffic
along
11th
is
the
city's
multi-million
dollar
plan
to
make
11th
that
Boise
rivers
to
ridges
bike
path
and
pedestrian
way.
That
might
be
why
they
consider
more
pedestrian.
Coming
that
way.
R
I
also
I'm
concerned
about
the
bicycle
parking,
because
that
is
going
to
be
what
they're
advertising
as
a
freeway
for
bicyclists
from
the
from
the
green
belt.
To
the
foothills
I
mean
it
is
almost
there.
They
stop
about
50
yards
short
of
the
actual
Green
Belt,
where
they
then
direct
people
to
turn
onto
River
Street,
then
onto
that
Pioneer
Park
path,
you're
familiar
with
it.
The
last
little
thing
I
want
to
mention
before
I
go
I,
don't
have
my
three
minute:
timer
I,
don't
know
where
I'm
at.
R
R
I
want
to
say
is
the
unique
thing
about
this
neighborhood
or
one
of
the
very
unique
things
about
this
neighborhood.
Is
we
share
it
with
18
wheelers
semi
trucks
convoys?
There's
that
warehouse
directly
across
the
street
I
don't
know
if
it
counts
as
being
on
River,
Street
or
11th
Street,
but
I
can
tell
you
for
a
fact:
Monday
through
Friday
from
5
a.m.
R
C
C
P
Ian
McLaughlin
116
South
6th
Street
Boise
Idaho.
Can
you
hear
me
all
right?
Yep,
okay,
cool
I,
just
I
want
to
point
out
that
what
we
are
proposing
to
address
the
parking
concerns
is
as
close
as
we
can
get
to
a
one-to-one
parking
ratio.
A
P
Have
approximately
117
parking
spots,
sorry
117
and
127
units
so
we're
at
about
0.9
parking
ratio,
so
we're
hoping
that
will
address
some
of
the
concerns.
While
we
don't
have
any.
You
know
anything
to
do
with
the
11th
Street
Bikeway
improvements
on
this
project.
P
We
are
proposing
bike,
bicycle
parking
within
the
building,
so
that
will
hopefully
address
concerns
of
bikes
being
parked
throughout
the
neighborhood
and
I.
Believe.
That's
all
any
questions
for
me.
C
L
C
D
My
perspective
is,
you
know
this,
just
the
initial
rezone,
the
development
agreement
does
reference
these
these.
What
is
it
called?
You
know
these
rough
plans
and
say
that
the
city
council
can
review
them
so
and
I
think
it's
a
good
project
as
proposed
in
that
place.
D
I'm
sure
we
can
fine
tune
the
parking
and
the
crosswalks
as
necessary,
but
I
don't
think
it's
easy
very
easy
to
do
that
in
a
rezone,
so
I'm
going
to
let
either
the
design
review
folks
deal
with
that
or
if
it
comes
back
before
us
as
a
conditional
use.
Permit
say
if
there's
some
parking
issues
related
to
the
code
and
they
need
to
seek
a
cup
we'll
have
another
bite
at
that
apple
and
I.
A
G
Milton
I'll
just
chime
in
real,
quick,
Mr
Bishop.
Thank
you
for
coming
back.
You
were
here
till
the
hours
with
us,
the
last
time.
I
remember
and
we'd
already
deferred
it
and
you
missed
it.
So
that's
right!
Yes,
so
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
back
that
neighborhood
seen
a
lot
of
changes
over
the
years,
and
you
know
we
have
one
guy
that
shows
up
to
for
some
input.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
doing
that
to
the
developers.
G
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
including
the
tenant
assistance
package
in
the
development
agreement.
If
I
had
my
way,
I
would
have
us
doing
that
more
often,
and
so
I
appreciate
you
coming
to
the
table
with
that
and
your
commitment
to
the
neighborhood,
because
I
know
you've
done
a
lot
of
work
over
there.
So
and
as
commissioner
Gillespie
noted,
this
is
just
a
simple
rezone.
G
H
Daley
just
be
brief
here:
absolutely
supportive
of
the
project.
I
think
it's
great.
My
only
concern
I
think
is
going
to
be
addressed
by
CCDC.
That
distance
is
600
feet,
11
11th
Street
to
that
crossing.
That's
textbook
guidance
in
terms
of
the
distance
between
Crossings,
so
I
know
personally.
If
that
comes
back
before
us,
that's
definitely
something
I'm
going
to
be.
H
You
know
looking
for,
but
to
commissioner
Gillespie's
Point
CCDC
is
on
their
radar
and
I'm
they're
they're
the
best
in
the
business
frankly,
I
think
they're
the
best
in
the
state
at
doing
the
types
of
things
that
we're
talking
about
so
I
have
faith
that
they'll
do
a
bang-up
job
here
too,
so
I
will
be
supportive
of
the
project.
Thank
you
great.
C
Thanks
Chris
yeah
I'll
also
be
supporting
the
motion.
I
think
it's
a
great
great
looking
project,
elevations,
look
fantastic
I
think
it's
a
handsome
handsome
building,
obviously
going
to
change
and
get
and
get
better
as
things
progress,
I'm
sure
so,
nice
job
to
the
team
and
I
agree
with
all
the
comments
stated
before
me
here
that
between
the
development
team,
CCDC
and
city
of
Boise,
it's
going
to
receive
the
attention
that
it
needs
and
deserves.
So
well
done.
C
C
C
C
E
Evening,
Mr,
chair
Commissioners,
and
before
you
see
you
p22-59
a
conditional
use
permit
for
parking
reduction
associated
with
the
second
phase
of
multi-family
development.
The
subject
property
is
located
at
114,
North,
23rd
Street
and
a
c5dd
Zone
on
0.56
Acres.
The
applicant
is
requesting
to
reduce
the
required
parking
to
a
ratio
of
0.34
spaces
per
unit.
E
Typically,
parking
is
calculated
by
bedroom
and
with
a
project
the
63
Studio
32,
one
bedroom
and
two
and
one
two
bedroom
units
would
be
required
to
provide
99
parking
spaces
for
residents
and
guests
with
the
P3
parking
overlay
reduction
up
to
a
30
parking
reduction
would
be
allowed
by
code
for
providing
affordable
housing
on
a
Transit
line.
This
program
with
Podium
parking,
which
would
bring
the
required
parking
spaces
down
to
70..
E
The
applicant
is
proposing
42
spaces
overall,
based
on
the
unique
situation
of
the
tenants
for
this
project
and
the
low
rates
of
vehicle
ownership
phase.
One
of
this
development
to
the
east
has
been
in
operation
since
2018,
with
the
same
parking
ratio
and
no
reported
parking
issues
with
the
proposed
parking
reduction.
The
applicant
is
providing
114
bike
parking
spaces
on
site.
Above
what
is
required
by
the
development
code,
a
recommended
condition
of
approval
requires
the
applicant
to
provide
additional
links
to
accommodate
for
bike
carts
in
10
of
those
parking
spaces.
E
The
proposed
or
the
property
is
located
near
community
and
Regional
Activity
Center.
Both
the
23rd,
Street
and
Fairway
Avenue
roadways
contain
bike
facilities
and
are
identified
on
achg's
roadways
to
bikeways
master
plan.
This
development
is
adjacent
to
a
bus,
stop
and
it
served
by
three
different
bus
lines
and
the
project
is
located
in
a
walkable
area
near
a
number
of
services
and
amenities.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
Jesse
first
we're
gonna
hear
from
the
applicant
before
we
have
any
questions.
T
Evening,
Commissioners
for
the
record
Sheldon
Rodriguez
with
SMR
development.
My
address
is
520
West
Idaho
Street
here
in
Boise.
First
of
all,
thank
you
Jesse
and
the
work
that
you've
done.
I
think
the
staff
report
was
very
thorough
and
I'm
going
to
try
to
not
say
everything
that
she
just
said
again.
So
I'll
try
to
move
quickly,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
is
about
permanent
Supportive
Housing,
which
I
tried
to
Define
for
you,
real,
quick
I'll
call
it
psh
as
I
talk
through
it.
T
It
pairs,
housing,
subsidy
with
case
management
and
supportive
services
to
help
those
who
are
suffering
from
chronic
homelessness.
So
with
that
said,
it
has
been
proven
both
by
BSU
and
at
a
national
level
to
help
save
Community
dollars
and
money
that
would
otherwise
be
spent
in
jails,
prisons,
hospitals,
Etc.
So
that
is
what
we're
talking
about
here
today.
New
Path
is
in
the
picture.
It's
award-winning
both
nationally
and
regionally
and
I'm
I,
always
say
next
slide.
But
here
we
go.
T
The
team
really
quick,
I,
think
you're
familiar
with
Pacific
companies
who
I'm
representing
as
their
project
manager
and
owner's
rep
they're.
One
of
the
largest
affordable
housing
developers
in
the
country
and
they're
based
out
of
Eagle
Idaho
since
the
late
90s
over
200,
affordable
housing
developments
throughout
the
country,
we're
partnering
with
our
design,
firm
or
said
architecture.
T
Obviously,
a
very
strong
presence
here
in
the
valley:
they've
worked
with
Pacific
on
a
dare
Manor
and
the
the
first
version
of
New
Path,
we're
also
working
with
hour
path
home
to
help
folks
who
are
suffering
from
chronic
homelessness,
get
into
homes,
create
stability
in
their
lives
so
that
they
can
move
forward
as
well
as
Terry
Reilly,
which
is
right
around
the
corner
from
this
site
to
provide
case
management
and
supportive
services,
so
just
to
set
the
stage
as
to
as
to
the
project.
These
are
just
some
images
of
New
Path.
T
The
development
I
think
Jesse
went
through
it
very,
very
well,
I.
Think.
In
short,
what
you
see
here
is
the
gray
is
what
we're
proposing
today,
the
area
on
the
right.
My
right,
the
white
is
the
existing
42
units
again
those
42
spaces.
In
addition
to
those
42
vehicular
parking
spaces,
we
have
113
bike
spaces
that
we're
showing,
and
that
does
not
include
short-term
bike
parking
which
would
be
in
the
public
right-of-way
based
on
the
typical
Furnishings
that
are
allowed
in
that
area
site
plan.
You
guys
saw
this
second
third.
T
Fourth
fifth
floor.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
we
do
step
back
from
Fairview
and
then
on
the
sixth
floor,
we
step
back
a
little
bit
more
to
try
to
meld
with
the
existing
building
and
there's
some
images.
This
is
from
the
perspective
from
Fairview
again
New
Path,
you
see
on
the
right
is
more
of
the
brown
at
the
four
stories,
and
you
see
our
project
that
has
the
blue
accent.
Stepping
back.
T
You
see
the
upholstery
existing
upholstery
building
in
the
corner.
There
we're
not
touching
it
we're
working
around
it,
and
then
you
see
this
alley
perspective.
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,.
T
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
are
requesting
the
parking
reduction
again.
It's
the
0.34
per
unit,
which
is
the
same
as
the
existing
New
Path
next
door
has.
This
seems
like
a
lot
I
get
it
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
understand.
We've
done
our
homework
on
this.
We're
not
pulling
this
number
out
of
thin
air
for
currently
there's
42
units
adjacent
to
this
site,
of
which
one
is
a
property
manager
on
site.
T
So
41
units
are
permanent,
Supportive
Housing
of
those
41
units,
seven
folks,
currently
that
are
living
there,
have
cars,
I,
I
personally,
there's
a
picture
there.
It's
kind
of
hard
to
see
I've
gone
by
the
site,
both
weekdays
weekends
evenings
during
the
day
to
just
see
what
the
situation
looks
like.
Never
once
has
the
parking
been
full,
the
on-site
parking
been
full
and
there's
always
been
additional
spaces
on
the
streets.
T
This
graph
to
the
right,
it's
a
little
hard
to
see,
but
it
it's
based
on
a
2020-2021
report
that
I
refer
to
a
lot,
because
there
aren't
a
lot
of
Industry
standards
around
permanent
Supportive
Housing
and
around
parking
for
such.
But
this
is
one
that
is
done
and
it's
very
thoughtful
and
you
see
the
the
top
chart
shows,
as
you
increase
incomes
four
units,
the
need
for
parking
also
increases
so
that
very
first
column.
T
There
shows
one
black
cart,
just
as
a
representative
of
you
need
less
parking
as
as
your
income
is
decree
as
incomes
for
residents
are
decreased
bottom.
The
bottom
chart
is
also
just
representing
the
same
thing,
essentially
as
you
go
from
Supportive
Housing,
which
we're
talking
about
here
through
to
senior
housing
to
Workforce,
then
to
multi-family
kind
of
traditional
multi-family
housing.
Your
need
and
Reliance
that
those
residents
have
on
personal
vehicles
increases.
So
you
see,
Supportive
Housing
is
primarily
focused
on
Transit
bikes
and
walkability.
T
I
have
another
slide
in
an
updated
presentation
that
I
failed
to
get
to
Jesse,
but
it
basically
speaks
to
the
different
bus
routes
that
go
right
by
the
site.
The
improvements
at
CCDC,
which
we've
heard
a
lot
about
already
tonight,
has
recently
made
in
the
area
with
bike
lanes
and
updated
and
more
amenitized
bus
stops
and
there's
over
six
in
the
area
and
the
the
bikeability
score
of
this
site.
T
I
I
checked
it's
at
93,
which
is
called
a
Biker's
Paradise
for
what
that's
worth
neighborhood
meeting
I
know
that
Kelly
is
here:
I
just
want
to
quickly
go
through
this.
We
did
have
our
required
neighborhood
meeting.
There
were
folks
there
from
business
Community
the
neighborhood
association
as
well
as
folks
from
the
neighboring
New
Path
one.
It
was
a
really
great
meeting.
T
T
I
went
through
those
here,
but
essentially
increasing
biking
bike
parking
as
much
as
we
can
I
feel
like
we're
doing
that
they
were
very
supportive
of
a
lot
of
the
amenities
that
were
showing
on
the
second
floor,
increasing
Universal
Design
throughout
the
units,
some
smaller
things
like
ceiling
fans,
but
also
it
was
just
a
great
opportunity
to
really
hear
what
the
neighborhood
was
thinking
in
regards
to
this
development.
So
I
just
wanted
to
to
point
that
out.
So
the
slideshow
really
wants
me
to
end
at
that.
T
With
that,
I
will
say:
I'm
happy
to
stand
for
questions
or
hear
any
other
comments
and
I've
got
members
of
the
design
team
here
to
answer
hard
questions
about
about
that.
So
I
think
that's
it
for
me.
C
C
And
you're
here
to
represent
the
West,
End,
neighbor
or
sorry
West,
downtown
neighbor
Association.
You
can
go
ahead
and
just
pull
that
mic
up.
O
And
okay
yeah,
so
kellytag
1820,
West,
Jefferson
Street,
the
I
did
attend
the
meeting
representing
the
neighborhood
association
along
with
another
board
member,
and
we
did
discuss
it
as
a
board.
You
know,
quite
frankly,
there
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
interest
or
concern
from
the
neighbors.
So
I'm.
You
know
I'm
not
here
to
make
a
formal
statement
in
regards
to
the
neighborhood
association,
just
because
the
lack
of
Interest
we
just
didn't
feel
like
it
was
something
that
would
be
necessary.
Okay,.
C
D
So
I
understand
that
the
focus
of
the
cup,
at
least
the
discussion
has
been
on
the
parking
issue,
am
I
correct
in
assuming,
though,
that,
in
fact
this
is
the
cup
for
the
whole
shooting
match
and
that
we
should
therefore
be
reminded
full
of
the
Lusk
Doctrine,
which
says
we're
looking
at
the
whole
cup,
not
just
the
parking
reduction.
Is
that
correct
or
are
we?
Where
are
we
Mr.
E
C
Thank
you
very
good.
Thank
you.
Mel
lawyer
says
yeah
yeah
yeah.
Thank
you
James,
commissioner
Mooney.
K
E
Mr,
chair
Commissioners,
so
that
was
something
that
is
in
the
that
plan.
There
are
some
streets
that
have
been
identified
as
potential
local
streets
with
the
development
of
New
Path,
one
that
was
kind
of
taken
into
consideration
that
that
wouldn't
be
the
case
for
this
specific
alley
as
that
Ally
and
that
side
has
already
developed
as
an
alley
with
a
20-foot
or
20
foot
wide
section.
So.
K
Okay,
thanks
Jesse
Mr
I
got
one
last
question.
M
K
To
the
applicant
for
that
parking
reduction
slide
that
that
helped
me
feel
a
little
bit
better
about
the
request,
because
it
seemed
to
me
like
we
were
taking
selective
consideration
on
best
practices,
I
guess,
I'm,
still
kind
of
heart,
smarting
from
interface
Sanctuary,
where
the
neighborhood
had
lots
of
best
practices
proposed,
and
we
disregarded
those
because
of
the
applicant
and
the
city's
position
on
Interfaith
and
in
this
one.
K
It's
we're
regard
we're
disregarding
the
parking
code
based
on
best
practices
which
who
have
been
kind
of
schooled
here,
is
that
we
have
to
be
careful
about
best
practices
when
the
code's
clear,
so
that
slide
helped
me
I,
guess:
I
could
be
convinced
that
that
makes
sense.
K
E
Mr,
chair
Commissioners,
so
the
code
does
allow
for
parking
reductions.
That's
what
this
conditional
use
is
for
is
for
parking
reduction
further
than
what
the
code
typically
allows.
D
C
Chair
so.
D
John
I
I
think
the
the
point
is
that
that
if
we
want
to
pick
a
number
that
doesn't
fit
the
code,
the
applicant
has
to
do
a
cup
which
they're
doing
and
then
we
apply
the
cup
criteria
to
that
decision
and
that's
what
allows
us
to
step
down
from
the
number
in
the
code
if
it
meets
those
cup
criteria.
C
Yeah
questions
good,
okay,
all
right!
We
will
go
ahead
then,
and
open
up
public
testimony
on
this
item.
I,
don't
have
a
sign
up
for
this
item
or
it
looks
like
no
one
signed
up
for
this
item.
If
you're
here
I'd
like
to
testify,
the
podium
is
free,
come
on
up
you'll
have
three
minutes.
Please
start
with
your
name
and
address
okay.
O
Kellytag
1820,
West,
Jefferson,
Street
and
I
will
be
brief.
I
just
you
know
the
experience
that
we've
had
with
the
current
location
with
the
New
Path
community
house.
You
know
we
have
just
anecdotally.
We
observed
a
reduction
of
the
number
of
homeless
people
in
our
neighborhood
and
we're
kind
of
a
pathway
from
one
side
of
town
to
another.
O
So
we
have
regular
foot
traffic
and
that
sort
of
thing
prior
to
the
construction
of
this
project,
the
current
Pathways
house,
we
had
a
neighborhood
meeting
because
of
a
concern
of
homeless
people
sleeping
in
Fairview
Park,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
anxiety
expressed
at
that
meaning
of
you
know
this
list
of
horribles
of
things.
That
would
happen
if
the
New
Path
Community
House
was
built.
We
didn't
experience
any
of
that.
O
In
fact,
if
people
have
a
place
to
go
to
and
sleep
at
night,
they're
not
going
to
do
it
in
the
park
and
then
as
far
as
the
parking
issue
itself,
I'll
just
reiterate
what
Sean
had
expressed
you
know:
I
drive
by
that
facility
nearly
every
day,
I've
never
seen
a
problem
with
overflow
parking
anything
in
the
street
or
you
know,
that's
just
hasn't
been
an
issue
and
when
I
talked
about
the
board
in
the
neighborhood
association,
the
lack
of
interest
is
really
because
nobody's
concerned
nobody's
worried
about
it.
O
You
know
we
advertised
it
like.
We
would
any
other
project
in
the
neighborhood.
We
received
no
comments
and
it's
because
there's
there's
no
anxiety
and-
and
so
you
know,
I
we
just
didn't
want
to
I.
I
just
didn't
want
to
speak
and
support
or
denial.
You
know
for
the
neighborhood
association,
because
everybody
was
just
something
that
they
were
really
worried
about.
So
you
know
personally,
the
experience
that
we've
had
with
the
current
facility
has
been
great
and
I
personally
support
the
new
expansion
of
the
pathways
house.
Thank
you
great.
C
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
would
like
to
testify.
Okay,
we'll
do
a
quick
check
in
online
if
you're
online,
you
want
to
testify,
please
raise
your
hand,
okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
testimony.
The
applicant
now
has
a
few
minutes
for
rebuttal.
You
can
certainly
yield
that
time.
If
you
would
like.
Okay,
let
the
records
show.
The
applicant
has
yielded
her
rebuttal
time
so
we'll
go
ahead
then,
and
bring
us
back
before
the
commission
to
render
a
decision
again.
This
is
cup
22-59.
F
I
make
an
a
motion
to
approve
cop
22-059,
with
all
the
terms
and
conditions
as
outlined
in
the
staff
report.
L
C
L
F
F
This
is
a
facility
that
does
good
work
in
our
community,
as
we've
just
heard
from
the
one
neighbor
who
has
testified.
We
have
heard
also
that
there
has
not
been
a
parking
issue
and
there's
definitely
a
substantive
research
to
be
able
to
to
be
able
to
support
that
it's
on
a
Transit
line.
It
has
it's
very
bikable,
it's
walkable.
It
is
near
to
activity
centers.
It
just
makes
all
the
sense
in
the
world
and
I
think
we
should
be
supporting
projects
exactly
like
this
in
our
community
and
that's
for
that
reason.
D
G
Too
I'm
just
going
to
pile
on
really
quickly
here
too
I'm
a
trained
social
scientist
and
one
of
the
things
Miss
Rodriguez
says,
is
that
the
research
proves
you
know
these
things
to
be
true
and
like,
and
we
like.
No,
no,
no
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
throwing
you
under
the
bus.
Here
we
never
use
that
word
prove
and
but
tonight
I'm
gonna.
Let
you
get
away
with
it
because,
as
commissioner
Squire
stated,
this
is
such
a
no-brainer.
G
I
am
Danley
had
his
like
praise
the
Lord
moment
with
an
achd
report.
We
had
a
couple
of
weeks
ago-
and
this
is
mine
tonight,
it's
like.
If
we
could
do
permanent,
Supportive
Housing
all
over
the
city.
We
should
do
it
as
fast
and
as
hard
as
we
possibly
can,
because
it
is
absolutely
the
solution
to
Chronic
homelessness,
so
yeah
I'm,
if
I,
could
vote
twice
on
this
I
I.
G
I
had
some
experience
working
in
these
projects
in
Los
Angeles,
we
approved
some
with
no
parking
at
all
and
it's
worked
fantastically
and
thank
you
so
much
for
showing
up.
This
has
been
again
another
neighborhood,
seeing
substantial
change.
We
have
one
neighbor
show
up
just
like
we
just
did
on
the
River
Street,
but
absolutely
I
think
both
of
these
projects
that
we've
seen
so
far
tonight
are
absolutely
critical
pieces
about
how
we
move
forward
in
this
community
provide
housing,
the
most
vulnerable
people
here.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
what
you're
doing.
K
Thanks
yeah
thanks
again
to
the
applicant
and
for
that
slide
to
help
me
educate
on
parking
and
also
I
wish.
We
had
more
of
our
our
neighbors
that
would
listen
into
the
downtown
west
downtown's
comments
about
list
of
horribles,
because
we
we
listen
to
the
that
all
the
time
and
clearly
this
doesn't
become
a
problem,
so
cuda's,
On,
A,
New,
Path
and
I'll
be
supported.
A
C
Yeah
fully
support
great
job
team,
best
of
luck,
getting
the
project
constructed
and
moving
forward,
yeah.
Okay,
all
right
we'll
go
ahead
and
call
the
roll
again.
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
cup
22-59
motion
by
commissioner
Squires
for
the
second
by
commissioner
Blanchard
and
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
K
D
C
C
John's
with
us,
okay,
all
right,
we'll
move
on
next
to
item
number
three:
this
this
is
car
22-11,
PUD,
22-28
and
SUV
22-35.
C
C
This
is
an
annexation
of
approximately
3.2
acres
to
r2da,
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development,
price
of
33
attached,
single-family
townhomes
on
3.2
acres
and
then
the
associated
preliminary
preliminary
plat,
comprised
of
33
buildable
and
three
common
Lots
on
said:
3.2
Acres.
First,
we're
going
to
hear
from
staff
Mr
David
Mosher.
C
I'm
sorry
David
hang
on
one
second,
commissioner:
Mooney.
C
C
K
The
president
of
the
barber
Valley
neighborhood
association
I've
been
involved
with
the
Communications,
with
the
develop
with
the
applicant,
as
well
as
the
neighborhood
association
Mr
veezy's.
Testimony
tonight.
U
You
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission.
The
applicant
is
requesting
to
Annex
3.2
Acre
Site,
with
an
r2d
da
Zone,
located
at
6776
East
Warm
Springs
Avenue,
and
a
conditional
use
permit
for
Planning
and
Development
containing
33
attached.
Town
Homes
also
included
as
a
preliminary
plot
for
residential
subdivision,
comprised
of
33
buildable
odds
and
three
common
lots
and,
as
you
can
see
from
the
aerial
photograph,
the
surrounding
area
is
comprised
of
residential
neighborhoods
containing
detached
single-family
homes
to
the
north,
south
and
east
single-family.
U
Residential
houses
are
adjacent
to
the
west
across
Warm
Springs
Avenue,
which
is
also
zoned
R2.
A
large
Wildlife
Corridor
butts
the
property
of
the
north,
which
connects
the
undeveloped
Foothills
to
the
east,
with
the
Boise
River
for
a
quick
overview.
The
commissioner
May
recognize
this
application,
since
it
was
heard
before
the
planning
is
winning
commission
back
on
August
1st
2022
and
the
applicant
had
at
the
up
at
the
applicant
had
made
substantial
changes
to
address
the
commission's
concerns
at
that
time
to
the
project.
U
U
The
compliance
is
further
detailed
within
the
project
report
and,
as
you
can
see,
from
the
site
plan,
the
development
consists
of
33
attached
two
and
three-story
town
homes.
In
summary,
the
substantial
changes
proposed
by
the
applicant
include
reduced,
reducing
the
density
to
33
units
for
a
project
density
of
10.3
units
per
acre,
providing
direct
public
Street
connection
to
Warm
Springs.
U
With
with
this
public
Street
connection
here,
which
is
new,
increasing
the
overall
open
space
of
the
area
provided
with
the
development.
This
is
a
new
open,
common
lot
with
I
think
playground,
equipment
and
then
they've
got
the
additional
open
space
com
Lots
here
in
the
cross,
the
north
property
line
and
they're
proposing
to
enhance
the
street
the
street
improvements
along
Warm
Springs
Avenue.
U
The
site
design
includes
a
public
Street
which
Loops
through
the
subject
property
and
provides
direct
Street
connection
to
Warm
Springs
Avenue.
The
right-of-way
width
for
the
public
street
is
proposed
at
27-foot
Street
section,
which
allows
for
parking
along
one
side,
and
the
applicant
proposes
a
five
foot
wide
detached
sidewalk
along
with
Whitton
naris
and
Brian
Avenue.
The
planning
team
also
recommends
recommend
Street,
specific
Street
improvements
along
Warm
Springs
Avenue
itself.
I
would
also
note
that
each
of
the
Town
Homes
provide
a
two-car
garage.
U
The
street
improvements
that
have
been
proposed
along
a
long
Warm
Springs
should
include
the
following
elements:
curb
Gutter
and
drainage,
openings
or
Ribbon
curb
a
larger
landscape,
buffer,
a
10
foot,
wide
pathway
for
biking
and
walking
and
the
of
course
the
storm
drain
needs
to
be
accommodated
within
this.
In
addition,
a
recommended
condition
of
approval
requires
the
applicant
work
with
the
city
of
Boise
and
achd
on
these
Street
improvements
along
Warm
Springs
Avenue
within
the
right-of-way
prior
to
final
plaid.
U
Also,
the
street
selection
will
need
to
be
coordinated
with
Idaho
Power
due
to
the
existence
of
power
lines
along
the
street.
Frontage
Neighbors
in
the
barber
Valley
neighborhood
association
did
Express
concerns
back
in
August
with
the
project
in
terms
of
access
to
Warm,
Springs
compatibility
and
traffic.
These
concerns
have
been
addressed
with
the
proposed
changes.
In
particular,
two
of
the
concerns
have
been
addressed
with
the
public
road
connection
to
Warm
Springs
Avenue
itself.
U
C
A
S
Worries
thanks
for
having
us
chair,
Council,
Commissioners,
Nicolette,
Womack,
kimleyhorn1100,
West,
Idaho,
Street,
Boise,
Idaho
83702,
we're
here
before
you
tonight,
I'm
following
up
with
the
woven
subdivision,
our
apologies.
We
are
scheduling
two
hearings
tonight,
so
we
are
half
online
and
half
in
person.
Mark
Russell.
The
developer
is
online
with
us
and
then
Abby
Hahn.
Our
civil
engineer
is
also
online.
S
Our
team
includes
Chris
Rose,
landscape,
architect,
Kelly
Childs
and
civil
engineer
and
Ian
is
with
a
pivot
North
architecture,
also
in
person
tonight
so
again
before
he's
tonight
is
annexation,
rezone
development
agreement
and
meta
annexes
the
project,
the
site
into
the
city,
assigned
zoning
and
applies
binding
conditions.
S
The
planned
unit
development
allows
for
attached
units
and
reduced
lot
sizes.
The
preliminary
plot
will
plot
the
parcels
for
individual
sale.
So
just
a
reminder
on
the
timeline.
We
started
this
project
back
in
February
of
last
year.
With
the
pre-application
meeting
we
held
our
neighborhood
meeting
in
April
and
after
which
we
submitted
our
application.
We
had
our
first
hearing
with
you
all
back
in
August
and
we
heard
your
feedback
and
we
came
back
with
a
new
plan
for
your
reconsideration
approval.
S
In
September
about
that
time,
in
November
achd
reclassified,
Warm
Springs,
which
allowed
us
to
give
that
new
access
onto
Warm
Springs,
so
we've
again
changed
the
plans
and
we're
back
for
a
hearing
tonight
so
again,
you're
familiar
with
this
project,
it's
east
of
Harris,
Ranch
and
then
shown
here
is
the
zoning
map,
which
is
r2d,
which
allows
for
a
12.5
dwelling
units
per
acre
and
then
shown
here
are
the
existing
subdivisions
on
all
sides
and
so
again,
on
this
project.
S
We
have
a
lot
of
opportunities
and
a
lot
of
constraints,
we're
completing
the
road
network
with
changing
policies
and
requirements,
we're
completing
The,
Pedestrian
Network.
We
are
honoring
the
Willy
setbacks
on
the
North,
we're
fronting
the
homes
on
Warm
Springs
and
we
are
including
honoring
the
perimeter
setbacks
with
the
adjacent
subdivisions,
so
original
submittal,
as
shown
here.
This
is
what
you
all
looked
at
previously.
We
were
at
a
39
single
family
homes,
broken
up
in
a
variety
of
ways,
and
we
revised
that
project
and
are
here
tonight
with
33
single-family
homes.
S
S
S
Pedestrian
connectivity
has
also
it's
remained
the
same
since
you
last
saw
it
and
it
continues
to
be
an
asset
for
the
community
and
we've
expanded
the
Warm
Springs
Ave
detached
sidewalk
and
we
are
creating
our
section
of
the
homestead
Trail,
we'll
continue
to
work
with
the
subdivision
to
the
east,
where
the
the
trail
actually
kind
of
dies
off
before
it
hits
our
site
so
and
then
shown
here
are
the
regional
connectivity
plans
for
the
area.
S
Achg's
five-year
work
plan
includes
an
rrfb
at
Sky,
Bar
and
then
another
one
at
Maynard,
Ave
open
space
and
amenities.
So
we
provide
wait
well,
say:
poison
doesn't
have
an
exact
open
space
requirements,
but
we
would
greatly
exceed
most
of
the
standard
ones
in
the
valley
Landscaping.
S
We
are
providing
and
keeping
a
combination
of
182
caliber
inches
we're
providing
a
play
area
and
drought.
Tolerant,
Landscaping
parking
came
up
with
the
last
hearing,
so
we're
required
to
provide
66
spaces.
That's
two
unit,
two
per
dwelling
unit.
If
you
count
the
garage
spaces,
which
are
those
66,
the
driveway
spaces
which
are
34
and
the
on-street
parking
spaces,
which
was
another
20.,
we're
at
120
spaces,
which
is
3.6
for
dwelling
unit,
so
I
feel
very
comfortable
that
we
are
meeting
and
far
exceeding
the
parking
requirements.
S
For
the
building
layout
and
height
shown
here
is
a
color-coded
example
of
how
we
step
down
from
three-story
adjacent
Warm,
Springs
Ave,
which
is
similar
to
the
project
across
Warm
Springs
lab,
which
also
has
three
store
units,
and
then
we
step
down
to
two-story
units
adjacent
existing
subdivisions,
just
in
case
you're
curious.
We
wanted
to
give
you
a
sense
of
scale
and
how
far
away
we
are
from
everyone.
S
So
we
do
have
that
15
foot
setback
on
the
east
and
south
side,
but
we
greatly
exceed
that
in
terms
of
the
way
things
are
existing
built.
There
is
protected
space
through
the
da
of
the
subdivision
to
the
north
and
there's
kind
of
a
Gulch
in
that
area.
So
we
are
over
184
spaces
from
those
three
story.
Units
to
the
north
shown
here
are
the
renderings
from
pivot
north.
These
are
the
two
Plex
units
which
are
consistent
with
several
of
the
standards
of
the
duplex
ordinance.
S
S
They
also
include
a
variety
of
window,
fenestration,
balconies
and
respect
to
locations
to
the
neighbors
and
that
attached
garage
on
the
first
floor
and
that
will
be
going
to
design
review.
So
since
we
last
met
with
you
all,
we
have
added
that
direct
access
to
Warm
Springs
Ave,
reducing
Demand
on
Brian
Ave.
We
have
those
20
foot
deep,
driveway
aprons,
where
driveway
aprons
are
provided
for
guest
parking
that
doesn't
block
sidewalks.
We
provide
a
continuous
network
of
detached
sidewalks.
S
We
have
a
further
reduction
unit,
count
to
33
units,
increased
setbacks,
open
space,
amenities,
landscaping
and
overall
there's
a
reduction
in
hardscaping
materials.
There
is
a
condition
within
the
staff
report.
We
wrote
it
here,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
maybe
changed
minorly
in
the
latest
draft.
S
We
will
continue
to
work
with
all
these
agencies
and
utility
companies
involved,
but
there
is
still
much
to
coordinate
in
terms
of
the
Curbing
and
the
the
Landscaping
treatment
along
that
those
few
feet
of
Warm
Springs.
So
we'll
continue
to
work
with
everyone
and
we
feel
comfortable
with
the
condition
as
they
wrote
it.
We're
requesting
your
approval
of
the
Pud
recommendation
of
approval,
annexation,
rezone
and
preliminary
plot
thanks
so
much.
C
J
J
He
proceeded
to
the
pre-
city
pre-ap
meeting
and
just
in
discussions
with
achd
staff
to
address
these
matters
leading
up
to
the
first
pnz
hearing.
City
staff
referred
all
Street
related
matters
to
achd
in
theory,
to
be
worked
out
after
acht
staff
told
the
applicant
in
no
uncertain
terms
that
they
could
not
have
direct
access
to
Warm
Springs
or
provide
traffic
calming
because
Warm
Springs
was
an
arterial.
J
The
applicant
submitted
an
application
that
did
not
address
bbna's
comp
plan,
supported
vision.
To
be
clear,
we
don't
blame
the
applicant
time
is
money
and
he
saw
achg's
position
as
final
at
that
point.
Communication
between
bvna
and
the
applicant
unfortunately
ceased,
and
we
were
no
longer
working
together.
J
J
The
achd
commission
had
recently
stayed
then
recently
stated
publicly
that
the
public
just
needs
to
contact
the
commission,
but
that
clearly
did
not
work
after
that
dead
end.
The
project
proceeded
to
your
commission
for
action
on
August
1st.
As
you
may
recall,
bvna
testified
about
access,
Street,
typology
and
streetscape
design
concerns
that
your
commission
chose
not
to
address
but
also
sidewalk
type,
and
that
the
site
was
not
of
adequate
size
to
accommodate
the
intended
use.
J
The
focus
of
this
account
is
the
unproductive
process
and
time
spent
by
the
developer,
Consultants
City
staff,
members
p
and
Z
Commissioners
such
as
yourselves
and
volunteer
directors
on
bvna
preparing
for
first
denying
then
reconsidering
the
project
at
two
meetings,
and
now
this
additional
hearing
tonight,
instead
productive
dialogue
between
the
city
and
achd
staffs
should
have
occurred,
potentially
eliminating
much
of
the
delay
and
the
cost
to
the
developer
in
heavy
planning
department
workload.
We
do
acknowledge
that
City
staff
is
sometimes,
unfortunately
treated
no
differently
than
the
general
public
by
achd.
J
I
offer
this
context
not
as
criticism,
but
rather
a
snapshot
of
what
we
encountered
for
much
of
this
last
year
as
it
was
status
quo
simultaneously.
Bvna
was
deeply
entrenched
in
pursuing
a
successful
reclassification
campaign
for
Warm
Springs.
During
the
master
street
map
process,
it
became
abundantly
clear
that
at
least
three
achd
Commissioners
clearly
wanted
change.
J
Commissioners,
Hanson
and
Pickering
into
an
extent
cold
Thorp
attacked
the
Legacy
process
and
made
it
clear
that
achd
should
be
considering
the
city's
vision
and
not
be
unilaterally
driving.
It
bvna
rigorously
lobbied
for
a
Warm
Springs
reclassification
to
collector
to
a
collector
status,
which
would
allow
for
calming
and
a
more
neighborhood
friendly
streetscape,
which
would
slow
speeds
as
achd's
position
on
roles
became
more
clear.
It
is
our
impression
that
the
city
became
more
City.
Staff
became
more
empowered
in
the
case
of
Warm
Springs
and
woven
your
staff
drove
the
streetscape
solution.
J
We
feel
this
is
the
city's
right
and
responsibility
under
the
local
land
use
planning
act,
and
we
are
hopeful
that
a
precedent
has
now
been
established
to
ensure
that
achd
does
not
override
the
land
use
agency's
vision
and
the
responsibility
and
responsibilities
across
the
county.
We
offer
Kudos
and
thanks
to
your
staff
for
their
efforts.
J
As
we
approach
this
hearing,
it
was
no
longer
we
do
not.
We
don't
know
or
we'll
see
what
achd
wants,
but
rather
these
are
the
conditions
of
approval
supporting
our
vision.
We
would
like
to
thank
Tim,
Crystal
and
David
in
planning
Karen
in
transportation
and
Bree
in
the
mayor's
office,
for
their
pursuit
of
our
mutual
vision.
J
We
are
hopeful
that
the
city
as
a
whole,
including
the
aforementioned
stakeholders,
your
commission
and
city
council,
continue
to
push
for
the
right
solution
when
dealing
with
hhd
on
development
applications
as
a
part
of
the
zoning
code
rewire
rewrite.
We
are
hopeful
that
staff
incorporates
a
code
mechanism
for
staff
to
identify
any
Vision
or
policy
misalignments
as
a
part
of
a
development
application
and,
more
importantly,
that
there
is
a
prior
a
priority
to
solve
these.
Prior
to
a
hearing.
J
We
too
desire
the
quote:
epic
achd
staff
report
that
commissioner
Danley
referred
to
two
references
tonight
referred
to
on
the
Armory
project
during
the
December
12th
meeting
for
all
projects.
I
am
neither
Pro
or
anti-developer,
but
we
have
to
work
together.
I
believe
that
the
lessons
learned
from
this
project
should
be
applied
to
all
projects
and
and
hope
process.
Improvements
are
now
in
place.
The
Legacy
achd
approach
must
be
rejected
across
the
entire
County,
and
we
have
already
expressed
this
to
Barbara
Valley's
achd.
J
Commissioner,
to
that
end,
and
with
regard
to
the
application
before
you
bvna
supports
the
staff
recommendation,
a
few
of
the
applicants
drawings
need
to
be
revised
to
graphically
align
with
the
conditions
of
approval,
such
as
the
landscape
and
site
plan,
showing
the
10-foot
multi-use
path
and
Frontage
improved
improvements
well
not
currently
depicted
on
the
landscape
plan.
We
do
expect
a
double
row
of
staggered:
Street
trees,
wherever
possible
after
coordinating
utility
locations,
as
shown
on
page
five
figure,
one
of
the
staff
report.
J
We
agree
with
condition
five
that
states
that
achd
in
the
city
must
approve
the
improvements
in
the
right-of-way
prior
to
signing
the
final
plot.
We
anticipate
the
neighborhood
of
neighborhood
association
being
a
part
of
that
discussion
prior
to
the
map
hearing,
although
not
expressly
State
expressly
stated
in
the
condition.
However,
it
goes
on
to
State.
Improvements
should
be
included.
J
This
seems
a
bit
open-ended.
Bvna
feels
the
developer
shall
include
them,
and
it
is
our
expectation
that
all
of
these
features
are
constructed
as
a
part
of
the
project.
Unless
it
is
physically
impossible
to
do
so,
we
expect
a
finished
pavement
Edge
as
described,
which,
as
we
understand
it,
will
calm
traffic,
not
surface
drainage,
into
a
borrow
ditch.
J
When
the
staff
report,
including
the
aforementioned
Figure
1
conditions
of
approval
and
drawings,
are
considered
in
their
entirety,
they
represent
a
project
BBA
bvna
supports.
We
strongly
believe
the
current
proposal,
better
interfaces
with
the
neighborhood
and
reduces
prior
impacts
on
the
adjacent
East,
Valley
subdivision.
J
Most
importantly,
we
are
extremely
excited
that
it
establishes
a
go
Forward,
Design
template
for
future
improvements
of
the
Warm
Springs
Corridor,
either
by
a
developer
or
through
achd
Capital
Improvement
projects.
We
acknowledge
this
template
is
not
going
to
change
the
nature
of
Warm
Springs
immediately,
but
it
will
inform
the
right
solution
over
time.
We
urge
you
to
approve
the
Pud
and
move
the
rezoning,
annexation
and
subdivision
applications
to
council
with
a
recommendation
for
approval,
as
recommended
by
your
staff,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
remain
hopeful
that
all
is
well
that
ends
well.
J
A
E
C
All
right,
we'll
call
it
then
I'm
glad
opens
up
for
public
testimony.
Anybody
here
to
testify
on
this
item
tonight.
No
one
in
person
I
have
one
hand
up
online
Kirk,
Hall.
V
Yes,
this
is
Kirk
Hall,
346,
West
Reese.
This
isn't
so
much
about
the
project,
but
a
recommendation
to
the
builders.
If
they
haven't
done
it
already,
they
should
see
if
they
can
put
in
an
additional
240
Outlet
in
each
garage.
C
S
Chair
Commissioners,
Nicolette
Womack
of
Kimberly
horn
I-
am
we
are
grateful.
I
am
for
all
the
neighborhood
involvement
on
this.
We
respect
all
the
efforts
BBA
has
gone
to
on
behalf
of
the
neighborhood,
similar
to
the
conversation
we
had
at
the
last
hearing.
We
think
it's
important
that
longer
term
issues
through
multiple
agencies
are
not
the
burden
of
any
one
project
or
developer
to
fix.
S
We
understand,
there's
a
lot
in
flux
and
are
happy
to
hear
that
everything's
moving
forward,
but
need
to
be
cognizant
of
that
evolving
relationship
with
the
existing
language
as
written
that
allows
us
the
flexibility
to
continue
working
on
those
finer
details.
S
Part
of
those
finer
details
is
that
the
street
section
shown
in
your
packet
Is,
Not,
An
achd
approved
Street
section,
and
so
we
will
need
to
work
with
them
to
find
one
that
meets
their
policies
and
from
our
understanding,
the
agreement
between
the
city
of
Boise
and
achg
is
that
they're,
the
technical
expert,
and
so
we
need
to
find
something
that
complies
with
a
policy
that
they
can
approve,
so
we'll
keep
working
with
them.
They
weren't
able
to
comment
through
the
holidays
or
prior
to
the
last
hearing.
S
We
also
just
want
to
state
that
we
could
have
kept
going
from
the
last
hearing
and
continued
on
to
city
council
with
the
recommendation
of
denial,
but
we
value
everyone's
opinion
in
this
room
and
we
thought
that
we
could
bring
another
foot
forward
with
another
set
of
plans,
and
so
I
think
we've
accomplished
that
here
tonight
and
we'll
stand
if
there's
any
more
questions.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
C
Thanks
Nicolette
all
right,
we'll
bring
it
back
before
the
commission
to
render
a
decision
just
a
reminder
that
we're
recommending
on
the
annexation.
A
C
H
Pretty
brief,
I
I
guess:
I
just
appreciate
the
applicants,
willingness
and
ability
to
navigate
this
this
particular
situation.
It
happens.
We
all
know
and
appreciate.
H
You
know
the
time
and
effort
that
was
put
in
because
you're
right
could
have
kept
pursuing
the
denial
but
I
think
ultimately
did
the
right
thing
to
the
neighborhood
association
I'll,
make
it
even
reefer
amen
how
about
that
one
quick
thing
real
little,
but
to
to
Nicolette
I
just
wanted
to
say
on
your
PowerPoint,
you
included
a
chart
on
parking
specifically
that
mentioned
the
driveway
spots
and
on-street
parking
as
counting.
H
H
F
Mr,
chair,
Mr,
Schwarz
I
just
want
to
thank
the
developer
and
Nicolette
for
listening
to
us.
I
I
think
you
know
some
of
us
felt
that
the
plan
was
almost
there,
the
last
go-round.
It
was
just
a
little
too
much
on
too
little.
So
thank
you
for
listening
thanks
for
coming
back,
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
far
superior
project
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
benefit
to
the
city
of
Boise.
G
C
Yep
I'll
be
supporting
the
Motions
as
well
yeah,
just
quick
another
thanks
to
everybody
on
your
team
and
it's
you
Nicolette
and
to
staff
for
working
through
process
here,
Mr
VC.
We
agree
with
your
comments.
Your
thoughts
also
thank
you
for
your
patience
and
your
efforts
on
this.
One
I've
said
this
before
on
the
record.
Sometimes
that's
why
we're
here
right?
It
takes
time,
but
we're
here
to
vet.
C
The
issues
hopefully
make
things
better
as
Pro
as
projects
progress,
but
your
points
are
certainly
valid,
that
we
could
all
do
a
better
job
being
more
efficient
in
that
process.
So
appreciate
again
appreciate
your
time
and
your
efforts
here
tonight
and
throughout
the
years
all
right
we'll
go
ahead
and
call
the
roll
here
again
we're
recommending
approval
of
car,
22-11
and
SUV
22-35
and
approving
PUD
22-28,
with
all
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
staff
report.
Promotion
was
by
commissioner
Danley
with
the
second
by
commissioner
Squires.
Will
the
clerk
please
call
the
roll.
I
C
Thanks
all
right,
we'll
move
on
up
next
is
item
number
four
PUD
22-69,
Rodney,
Evans
and
Partners
address
is
911
North,
Shamrock
Street.
This
is
a
modification
to
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
residential
plan
development
comprised
of
24
single-family
dwellings
on
3.09
acres
in
an
r1c
Zone
we're
going
to
hear
from
Staff
first
Mr
David
Mosher.
U
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
modification
to
a
conditioner's
permit
for
residential
plan
development
comprise
the
24
single-family
dwellings
on
approximately
three
acres
in
our
r1c
Zone
and,
as
you
can
see,
from
the
aerial
photograph,
the
property
is
located
on
the
west
side
of
Shamrock
and
surrounded
by
residential
neighborhood,
which
includes
the
future
planned
subdivision
or
potential
future
subdivision
adjacent
to
the
South
and
I
believe,
there's
also
a
potential
public
park.
There
too.
U
This
slide
shows
the
site
layout
with
respect
to
the
surrounding
neighborhood,
which
was
approved
by
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
back
on
July
19th
of
2021,
and
it
includes
reduced
lot
sizes
and
reduced
interior
setbacks.
This
approval
is
also
required
also,
okay.
This
approval
also
required
the
houses
along
Mesquite
to
use
shared
driveways
and
that
detached
sidewalks
and
a
landscape
offer
be
installed
along
Shamrock.
U
First,
the
applicant's
request
to
remove
the
condition
of
approval
number
three,
since
they
have
already
installed
the
attached
sidewalks
along
Shamrock.
According
to
the
applicant,
the
attack
sidewalks
are
installed
in
response
to
achd
requests
for
wider
Street
section
and
also
to
accommodate
the
location
of
infrastructure,
irrigation
infrastructure.
U
The
applicant
is
requesting
the
conditional
use
or
the
condition
to
be
to
be
removed
due
to
site
constraints
and
the
cost
associated
with
replacing
the
existing
sidewalks
and
utilities.
However,
the
planning
team
recommends
denial
of
the
requested
modification,
since
it
does
not
comply
with
the
required
findings.
As
per
the
development
code
attached.
Sidewalks
are
not
compatible
with
the
adjacent
neighborhood,
which
includes
future
subdivision
Abracadabra
2
adjacent
to
the
South,
which
will
include
the
installation
of
d-test,
sidewalks
and
Landscape
buffer
along
Shamrock.
U
Also
Shamrock,
Shamrock
Street
is
currently
a
pedestrian
and
bike
connection
to
Emerald
and
Five
Mile
Road
to
the
south
and
east,
which
anticipates
enhanced
pedestrian
and
bike
improvements
along
the
street.
The
figure
here
generally
shows
in
rough
comparison
between
the
attached
and
detached
sidewalk
designs.
Also,
the
applicant
is
requesting
to
remove
conditional
approval
number
four,
since
the
utilities
for
each
buildable
lot
have
have
already
been
installed
and
will
conflict
with
the
required
share.
Driveway
location,
the
planning
team
recommends
approval,
since
this
modification
complies
with
all
the
required
findings.
U
The
development
code,
the
intent
of
the
shared
driveways,
was
to
improve
the
street
Frontage
along
Mesquite
by
reducing
the
number
of
curb
cuts
and
preserving
the
availability
of
on-street
parking.
The
proposed
modification
to
the
driveway
location
protects
the
on-street
parking
along
along
Mesquite
Street.
The
driveway
locations
are
paired
next
to
each
other
and
are
in
a
similar
location
as
the
original
shared
driveways
in
from
the
original
project.
As
such,
it
is
compatible
and
will
not
adversely
impact
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
U
This
figure
show
this
figure
here
shows
the
on
the
slide
shows
the
driveway
locations
along
the
Mesquite
Street
as
proposed
now.
In
conclusion,
the
planning
team
recommends
denial.
The
modification
of
conditionally
approval
number
three
and
approval
to
modify
Con
in
the
in
the
approval
to
modify
condition.
Number
four
thank.
W
F
W
Unfortunately,
we're
here
for
similar
reasons
to
the
last
applicant
or
the
last
project
heard,
was
with
some
differentiation
between
the
condition
from
the
city
and
then
what
we
got
as
a
condition
from
achd
as
well
as
Direction
in
the
field
during
construction,
so
the
condition
of
approval
that
we
were
given
for
the
original
application
of
this
from
achd
was
that
and
I
screenshot
that
here
this
is
just
kind
of
showing
you
the
the
location
of
the
subdivision.
W
Again,
it
indicates
that
there's
some
constraints
with
the
east
side
of
Shamrock
being
an
open
Untitled
Canal
that
there's
very
little
little
usable
right-of-way
there
east
of
the
gravel
shoulder.
They
also
reviewed
the
entirety
of
Shamrock
Street
from
the
North
Boundary
of
this
project
to
Fairview
everything
has
attached
five
foot
sidewalk,
including
the
most
recent
developed
Lucky
Lane
subdivision,
also
called
Stevens
subdivision
that
had
a
similar
condition
as
ours
did
but
mentioned
either.
Seven
foot
attached
or
five
foot
detached
sidewalk.
W
What
was
installed
is
five
foot
attached
achd
in
the
field.
They
came
out.
Sorry
next
slide
maybes.
You
can
see
so
the
the
on-site
recommendations.
This
is
straight
from
our
staff
report
for
the
Abracadabra
number
one
subdivision,
part
of
achd's
action
on
Lucky,
Lane
subdivision
located
directly
north
of
the
site,
was
that
it
should
be
improved
with
21
feet
of
pavement,
share,
Rose,
curb
Gutter
and
five
foot
wide
concrete
sidewalk
with
a
seven
foot
wide
gravel
shoulder.
W
W
Two
feet:
West
so
that
in
combination
with
a
gravity,
irrigation
delivery
line,
joint
trench
utilities
that
had
already
been
installed
prior
to
the
sidewalk
that
made
the
detached
sidewalk
and
the
curb
and
everything
else
create
a
really
massive
conflict
with
that
what
was
installed
as
well
as
Mike
Alexander
in
the
field
from
achd
said
Shamrock
should
not
be
considered
as
a
collector
Street.
This
is
a
local
roadway.
You
should
match
your
existing
improvements
to
the
north,
which
was
again
five
foot
attached,
sidewalk
curb
gutter.
W
We
understand
that
there's
some
pretty
major
conflicts
if
you
can
kind
of
roll
through
the
next
slide.
Oh
and
I
do
that
too
sorry,
I
haven't
used
this
thing
before
so
I'm,
just
going
to
show
you,
here's
what's
installed
with
Abracadabra
number
one
from
the
southern
boundary
to
the
entry.
W
These
lots
are
ready
to
be
built
on.
The
last
thing
that
we
have
to
do
is
get
the
final
plot
signed
to
get
building
permits
for
24
single-family
homes.
Here
we
can't
get
that
signed
until
we
go
through
this
modification.
As
you
can
see,
Idaho
Power
has
their
Transformer
installed.
The
cluster
mailboxes
are
installed
out
here.
All
the
gravity.
Irrigation
improvements
are
installed,
so
we're
going
to
walk
through
Shamrock
between
this
site
and
Fairview
Avenue.
W
W
W
You
can
see
five
foot
attached,
sidewalk
built,
they
do
have
their
plat
signed
and
are
currently
Building
Homes,
and
this
is
immediately
adjacent
to
us
where
you
see
us
a
fence
right
at
the
back
of
the
sidewalk
of
the
five
foot
attached
and
then
the
continuation
of
that
due
to
these
these
conditions,
I
also
wanted
to
show
kind
of
another
graphic
that
shows
initially
when
we
got
the
condition
of
approval.
W
We've
also
included
four
along
the
frontage
there,
as
well
as
an
additional
we're
trying
to
save
an
additional
tree
that
was
shown
in
some
of
those
pictures
and
talking
with
parks
that
may
or
may
not
survive.
So
we
would.
This
would
help
us
mitigate
we've
added
some
additional
Landscaping
interior
to
the
development
as
well,
but
this
buffer
here
on
the
right
side,
with
the
attached
with
the
monument
signage
that
the
developer
has
installed.
We
feel
like
this
creates
a
very
attractive
Street
Frontage
regarding
pedestrian
comfort
and
bike
comfort.
W
As
you
saw
in
the
staff
report
and
as
are
painted
on
Shamrock
right
now,
this
has
sharrows.
So
this
section
of
roadway
which
dead
ends
on
the
southern
end,
it's
ballarded
with
a
regional
pathway,
connection
between
the
south
end
of
Shamrock
and
the
West
End
of
emerald
I'm,
going
to
go
back
to
the
overhead
view.
Just
to
see
is
the
red
button.
W
Oh
there
it
is
so
this
is
the
new
development.
This
is
the
adjacent
development
there's
going
to
be
16
single
family
homes,
a
one
acre
park.
There
are
bollards
right
here
right
now
that
when
that
road
section
gets
extended,
there
will
be
bollards
installed
here
at
the
very
south
end
of
that
there's
also
a
regional
pathway
that
extends
Westward
along
the
southern
boundary
of
that
Park.
W
So
we
feel
like
that
section
of
Shamrock
you
can
see
between
I
think
it's
silver
view
up
here
down
to
the
to
the
entrance
into
Abracadabra
number
one
again,
there's
about
five
homes
that
take
direct
access
to
Shamrock,
the
rest
of
them
come
in
off
of
Nicole
and
access
interior.
This
development
also
connects
to
Nicole,
which
allows
traffic
to
head
north
to
get
back
out
to
Shamrock
or
head
over
here
to
head
north
to
Fairview
Avenue
up
to
the
north.
W
So
again,
there's
a
touch
sidewalk
all
the
way
down
the
west
side
of
Shamrock
here
when
looking
at
the
staff
reports
for
both
of
these
projects.
W
The
first
for
this
for
Abracadabra
number,
one
achd
indicated
that
the
24
single-family
homes
would
generate
84
vehicle
trips.
At
the
peak
PM
hour
in
the
number
two
staff
report,
they
changed
their
designation
of
Shamrock
to
a
local
and
said
we
don't
review
traffic
impacts,
When
It's
associated
with
a
local
Road,
we're
just
as
frustrated
as
you
are
I've,
seen
a
lot
of
shaking
heads
and
stuff.
W
Ultimately,
we
feel
like
leaving
the
attached
sidewalks
with
the
sharrows
that
are
in
the
roadway
and
enhancing
that
landscape
buffer
provides
for
the
intent
of
that
condition.
It
meets
what
Ace
HDs
has
to
do.
It
gets
24
homes
to
the
market,
a
whole
lot
faster
than
tearing
this
out
relocating
joint
trench
and
gravity
irrigation
and
the
sidewalk,
and
with
that
I
would
stand
for
questions.
C
D
Commissioner
Gillespie
a
question
for
the
applicant
Mr
Simple:
when
did
you
put
in
the
attached,
sidewalk
email
boxes
and
all
of
the
utilities
and
other
accoutrement.
W
D
But
we
don't
know
when
was
it
before
or
after
the
letter
you
received
from
Mr
Moser
dated
July
22nd.
A
D
W
Chairman
commissioner
Gillespie,
so
the
ins,
the
developer,
did
install
the
improvements
after
they
received
achd
approval
right
of
the
project.
We
had
submitted
documents
showing
detached
sidewalk
on
Shamrock
to
the
city.
After
the
the
public
hearing
approving
the
Pud
and
the
pre-plat
when
those
constructions,
it's.
H
Mr,
chair
Mr
daily
question
is
Steph
I.
What
I'm
confused
on
I
guess
is
so
the
applicant
is
making
the
claim
that
what
was
built
essentially
fits
the
rest
of
the
the
roadway
from
the
Terminus
in
the
South
up
to
Fairview,
but
in
the
staff
report
and
in
your
proposal
it
mentioned
something
about
being
inconsistent
with
the
the
future
plans.
Or
what
have
you
can
you
talk
more
about
that?
Why
why
are
have
not
others
then
been
required
to
put
in
detached
and
and
when
might
this
plan
that
you're
discussing
be
implemented?
H
U
Chair
members
of
the
commission,
the
it
is
correct
to
the
north
of
this
Shamrock
has
been
built
out
with
attached
sidewalks,
including
the
one
directly
to
the
north,
which
I
believe
was
probably
approved
on
2019
or
2018..
The
the
city
has
evolved
on
our
process,
our
thinking
for
attached
versus
detached
sidewalks
since
that
time
to
now
so
what
was
approved
for
Stefan's
or
or
Lucky
Lane
subdivision?
It's
not
what
we
want
now.
U
So
we
at
the
time
of
2021,
requested
that
they
start
doing
detached
sidewalks
adjacent
to
the
south
of
this
I
think
there
is
an
application,
that's
currently
being
reviewed,
called
Abracadabra
2,
and
it's
my
understanding
with
that
new
subdivision
that
they
are
proposing
detached
sidewalks
with
landscape
buffer
and
that
is
directly
to
the
South
and
has
not
been
built.
Yet
it
has
been
approved.
Sorry.
H
Like
he's
doing
that,
this
is
a
question
for
for
Mr,
Moser
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
answer
this
because
it
gets
into
the
mapping
but
I'm
curious.
You
mentioned
the,
and
so
did
the
applicant,
the
extension
of
emerald
or
not
Emerald
Shamrock
to
Emerald.
H
But
my
question
is:
is
when
I
look
at
the
the
map?
It
looks
to
me
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
connect
to
president
there's
a
clearly
a
gap
there
between
the
parcels.
However,
the
actual
land
use
map
doesn't
show.
Specifically,
it
gets
a
little
fuzzy
in
terms
of
of,
if
that's
a
possibility
or
not,
and
so
I'm
curious.
If
you
know
the
answer
to
that,
it
looks
like
it
has
been
preserved
for
right
for
right
away
and
the
potential
for
a
future
expansion.
U
H
You're
asking
yeah
the
Far
Eastern
edge
of
that
parking
lot
next
to
the
large
Warehouse,
that's
almost
straight
up
and
down
from
the
alignment
of
Shamrock
there's
a
dirt
Gap
that
exists
between
the
back
of
that
parking
lot
and
then
the
parking
lot
that's
to
the
east,
but
to
the
western
edge
of
that
parking
lot.
That
is
what
pres
right
away
preservation
often
looks
like
until
it's
you
know
fully
built
or
extended
to
some
extent
whoever's
responsible.
So
I
don't
know.
If
you
can
answer
that
question,
but
I'm
curious.
U
Mr
chair
members
of
commission,
it's
as
far
as
I
can
tell
at
least
on
the
gis.
There
is
no
right-of-way
there.
There
could
be
an
easement
in
place.
I
didn't
look
that
carefully
at
that
subdivision,
but
that's
all
private.
Those
are
individual
parcels.
Unprivately.
U
W
Mr,
chair
I,
yeah
yeah,
just
to
clarify
a
couple
things
yeah.
We
can't
find
any
right-of-way
South
connecting
to
president.
The
right
of
way
is
a
little
choppy
and
there's
improvements
from
those
industrial
places
in
that
right
of
way
of
emerald
so
and
I
just
clarify
one
other
thing:
we
understood
the
condition
of
approval.
At
the
beginning,
we
actually
modified
our
landscape
plan
to
show
detached
sidewalks
on
Shamrock
construction
started.
W
C
G
C
Year
after
our
action,
yeah
right,
Mr,
chair
to
all
of
so
just
I-
mean
sorry
John
I'm
coming
to
you
next,
so
just
to
be
clear
with
all
of
the
approved
construction
documents
approved
by
the
city
and
approved
by
achg,
showed
a
detached
sidewalk.
W
No,
no
so
I'm
sorry
Mr,
chair
members
of
the
commission,
so
we
produced
some
plans
to
go
to
the
city
staff
report
went
to
the
civil
engineer,
he's
looking
at
achg
staff
report
because
they
work
with
achd
on
their
Road
design.
That
said,
match
the
road
section
going
north
or
that's
literally,
what
their
staff
report
says
in
here
for
this
project.
They
submitted
their
construction
documents
with
attached
sidewalk
in
the
field.
They
then
moved
the
road
section,
two
feet:
West
to
align
with
that
Shamrock
western
side.
W
It
got
approved
and
built,
and
then,
when
we
went
back
to
get
final,
we
have
the
final
plat
is
sitting
at
the
city
of
Boise
right
now
and
when
we
went
back
to
get
approval
sign-offs
on
everything,
they're
was
this
discrepancy
between
attached
versus
detached
sidewalks,
and
so
now
we
find
ourselves
here.
Gotcha.
Okay,
thank.
K
Mr
question
for
David
for
staff,
so
the
the
way
the
staff
recommend
men's
is
that
currently,
on
the
west
side
of
Shamrock,
we've
got
attached
sidewalk
with
pretty
much
rolled,
curb
all
the
way
down
to
this
project
and
that
attached
sidewalk
with
a
rolled
curb,
is
already
installed,
and
if
we
go
as
recommended
by
staff,
they
would
be
required
to
rip
out
that
attached,
sidewalk
with
rolled
curb
and
put
in
detached
sidewalk,
which
would
then
match
farther
south
into
the
next
development,
which
would
also
be
detached
sidewalk.
K
U
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
it
would
be
hard
to
get
an
alternative
I
mean
the
commission
could
consider
trying
to
put
some
larger
trees
in
I,
didn't
consider
of
requiring
a
common
play
area
or
lot
I'm
sure
the
applicant
might
have
concerns
with
that,
but
I
I
mean
we
as
far
as
the
detached
sidewalks
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
how
we
can
get
the
alternative
in
there
to
answer
your
question.
W
Mr
chair
and
if
I
could
address
Mr
or
commissioner
Mooney
his
question
as
well
with
the
attached
sidewalk
condition,
we
are
proposing
adding
an
additional
Street
Tree
on
the
North
plus
an
additional
Street
Tree
on
the
south
landscape
buffer
having
that
be
15
and
a
half
plus
about
an
inch
so
15
foot
7
along
there.
We've
also
added
some
additional
landscape
trees
to
the
interior
of
the
site
as
well.
To
help
enhance
that
as
a
concession
to
try
to
get
this
to
work.
H
My
question,
I
guess,
is
kind
of
jumping
on
to
commissioner
Gillespie's
line
of
questioning
with
regard
to
the
timing,
I
hear
what
you're
saying
clearly
the
communication
and
jurisdiction
stuff
as
we've
just
talked
about
right,
but
the
question
I
have
is
so
when
you
all
were
provided
the
guidance
or
not
even
guidance,
it
was
sort
of
told
this
is
how
you
will
do
it
by
achd,
and
yet
we
have
conflicting
requirements
from
the
city.
Did
at
any
point
in
time.
W
Chair,
commissioner
Danley,
no,
you
didn't
miss
it.
That
conversation
didn't
occur.
I
had
assisted
with
the
initial
entitlement
approval
through
the
city.
W
You
know,
I,
send
out
all
the
conditions
of
approval,
all
the
letters
there
were
some
conflicts
within
the
staff
report
that
I
think
were
exacerbated
by
some
field
visits
by
achd
during
construction.
They
approved
a
plan
set
that
who
whoever
didn't
catch
during
their
review
when
it
went
back
through
a
secondary
review.
W
I
know
I
understand
that
this
is
kind
of
asking
for
you
know
forgiveness
after
the
fact,
in
a
way,
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out,
we've
got
so
to
clarify,
there's
a
vertical
curve
on
Shamrock,
not
rolled
curb
in
front
of
this
development.
W
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
get
24
houses
to
the
market,
for
families
to
move
into
here,
ripping
out
five
foot
attached,
sidewalk
relocating
a
bunch
of
stuff,
obviously
time
money,
that's
the
Crux
of
it
here.
So
we're
we're
really
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
an
additional
benefit
by
enhancing
some
of
the
landscape.
W
Is
it
ideal?
No,
and
could
it
have
gone
different,
I'm
sure
it
could
have,
but
we're
that's
neither
here
nor
there,
unfortunately
we're
here
asking
and
having
a
conversation
and
to
see
what
would
be
what
the
commission
feels
would
be
appropriate
here.
K
I
got
a
question
for
a
staff
on
the
analysis
on
our
agenda
package:
page
918,
I,
guess
I,
just
I
think
I
disagree
with
this
comment
that
the
last
sentence
on
that
page
says
the
requested
modification
to
allowed
attached
sidewalks
along
Shamrock
Street
would
adversely
impact
the
adjacent
neighborhood
by
not
providing
any
pedestrian
amenities
along
Shamrock
Street.
That's
David!
That's
not
true
correct,
because
there's
pedestrian
amenities,
it's
an
attached,
sidewalk,
correct.
U
Mr
chair
members
of
commissioner
and
I
think
what
I
was
trying
to
get
out.
It
doesn't
provide
the
the
The
Pedestrian
amenities
that
the
city
would
like
to
see
and
the
detaching
the
sidewalk
the
street
calming
the
protection
that
that
a
detached
side
with
the
landscape
buffer
would
provide.
You
are
correct.
They
are
providing
the
best
Humanity
in
the
sense
that
there
is
a
sidewalk
there,
and
so
yes,
that
that
is
correct.
U
But
it's
not
the
it's,
not
the
pedestrianity
that
the
city
would
like
to
see
in
the
form
of
a
detaching
landscape,
buffer
and
all,
and
all
that
and
all
that
what
that
implies.
Thank
you,
Mr
chair.
C
Okay,
no
takers,
Ben,
quick
rebuttal
or
you're
good.
Okay.
Let
the
record
show
that
the
applicant
has
yielded
his
rebuttal
time
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
bring
this
back
before
the
commission.
C
Decision,
commissioner
Gillespie.
D
F
D
That
would
leave
condition
three
in
place.
The
detached.
C
D
Four
yeah
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Gillespie
I
think
the
record
is
clear:
I'm
I'm,
sorry,
this
happened.
Proper
planning
was
avoidable.
If
the
city
is
very
clear
on
sidewalks
has
you
know
I
I'm
surprised
there
was
any
lack
of
clarity
here,
but
the
condition
is
very
clear.
It
was
sent
to
the
applicant
on
July.
22Nd
of
2021
is
the
date
of
the
letter.
D
If
the
city
wants
to
waive
that
condition
now,
because
of
things
that
the
applicant
did
I'd
like
the
city
council
to
do
it
and
not
me
because
we
make
conditions
for
real
and
the
applicant
just
blew
by
him,
and
we
have
no
idea
what
achd
said
or
didn't
say
or
why
they
said
it
and
it's
you
know.
So
if,
if
the
city
council
wants
to
let
it
go,
let
the
city
council,
Let,
It,
Go,
but
I
would
I
would
not
support
it.
So
there
you
go.
C
C
F
As
I
said
to
my
fellow
commissioner
up
here,
it
just
just
feels
icky
all
the
way
around
I
understand
wanting
to
get
to
Market
I
get
it.
We
need
houses,
but
again,
that's
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
a
manipulation
of
this
commission
to
say
well,
you're
going
to
deny
us
this
you're
going
to
deny
homes.
That's
not
fair.
We
didn't
create
the
issue.
Lack
of
project
management,
good
project
management
created
this
issue.
H
C
H
I'll
be
in
support
of
the
motion,
but
it's
so
crazy.
We
were
just
talking
right
during
the
break
that
sometimes
these
big
issues
that
we
think
are
going
to
be
huge
are
sometimes
easy
and
sometimes
the
real,
smaller
ones
are
much
harder
and
I
think
this
is
kind
of
one
of
those
examples
to
an
extent
but
I'm
going
to
add
to
the
conversation.
H
One
thing
I
know
Shamrock
inside
and
out
just
from
previous
experiences
and
I
know
that
it's
bigger
than
this
project,
the
Shamrock
Corridor,
goes
several
miles
and
is
a
major
collector
bike
route.
One
of
the
first
bike
routes,
I
think
the
first
bike
Boulevard
in
the
city,
and
so
it's
bigger
than
this
one
parcel.
It's
part
of
a
system
and
part
of
a
network
and
I
know
it
sucks.
Given
your
your
needs
and
desires,
I
get
it,
but
it
is.
H
G
G
Ledger,
this
is
a
headache,
commercial.
You
are
right,
it's
just
it's
unfathomable
to
me
that
we
would
ask
a
developer
to
tear
out
infrastructure,
even
though
it
was
probably
unwise,
as
commissioner
Squires
noted,
to
go
forward,
so
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion.
I
just
want
to
get
some
of
these
things
on
record
too.
G
Is
that
I
also
feel
like
this
is
above
our
helmet
that
this
is
really
this
is
this
is
we're
one
and
one
tonight
on
interagency
fights
I,
think
you
know
we
had
there's
no
fight
yeah
well
there.
There
is
because
achd
thought
that
they
could
come
to
the
site
and
dictate
what
what
was
going
to
happen,
and
obviously
the
developer
thought
that
too
well
and
and
then
here
we
are,
and
so
I
feel
like
it's
above
our
head,
and
someone
else
needs
to
answer
that
question
as
well.
G
Although
we
do
have
why
jurisdiction,
but
yeah,
this
is
yeah
I
I
do
just
I
have
to
support
this,
but
I
yeah
I
feel
like
this
is
definitely
a
question
above
above
us
to
deal
with.
K
Chair
yeah
I'll
support
us
the
motion
as
well.
I
guess
I'd
have
been
a
little
bit
easier
swayed
if
the
applicant
had
come
forward
with
some
larger
concessions
to
the
mistake
they
made
so
I'll,
be
in
support
of
the
motion.
C
Okay,
thanks
I'm
with
commissioner
Blanchard.
You
know
headache
here
been
I've
been
in
that
position
that
you're
in
right
now
it's
intractable
right,
I
mean
we're.
Gonna
deny
the
request
tonight,
it
sounds
like
azhg
is
going
to
stay
on
their
ground,
so
it
is
kind
of
above
our
pay
grade.
At
this
point,
it
frustrates
me
to
no
end
that
we're
talking
about
moved
to
our
200
feet
of
sidewalk
right
and
there's
an
improvement
over
what
was
there
previously
right?
There's
a
an
attached
sidewalk,
which
is
an
improvement
over
the
previous
condition.
C
So
it
pains
me
to
remove
that
which
is
an
improvement,
has
made
our
city
better,
albeit
not
to
the
ideal
that
we'd
like
to
see,
and
it
still
leaves
you
in
that
position
where
you
have
to
negotiate
additionally
with
achd.
So
it's
just
like
a
terrible
lose-lose
situation.
Having
said
all
that,
I
wish,
you
would
have
come
forward
prior
to
building
it.
C
You
know
that
would
have
been.
We
would
have
a
much
easier
conversation.
You
know
at
that
point
and
that's
kind
of
the
gist
of
it
right
and
that's
so
lesson
learned
I
guess
you
know
moving
forward.
So
best
of
luck
moving
ahead,
you
know
any
other
thoughts,
Mr.
H
Chair
Mr,
Daly,
sorry,
just
one
last
thing:
it's
important
because
it's
germane
to
this
topic
before
this
meeting
I
requested
of
staff
at
a
future
work
session.
Achd
come
before
us
because
they
are
in
the
midst
of
updating
their
7200
section
I,
think
it
is
of
their
policy
manual,
which
is
specifically
about
these
things
and
what
it
is
that
they're
going
to
be
required
or
what
they're
going
to
require
of
development?
H
G
Okay,
I
will
just
tack
on
a
couple
things.
If
I
can
yeah
good
Christmas,
you
know
I
I.
It
is
hard
to
find
that
that
it
doesn't
meet
some
kind
of
a
standard
when
the
sidewalks
that
you've
installed
will
connect
to
the
north,
so
I
mean
I
think
making
that
finding
that
well,
this
isn't
providing
any
value
to
the
neighborhood.
G
G
C
Okay,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
I
think
we've
we're
on
the
record
with
our
thoughts,
so
we're
gonna
call
the
roll.
Here
again
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
modifications,
as
written
within
the
snap
report
for
PUD
22-69
I
have
to
apologize.
The
motion
was
by
commissioner
Gillespie
second
to
the
second
by
commissioner
Blanchard
of.
C
I
C
C
A
L
A
G
C
C
Yeah
foreign,
all
right
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
rolling.
Welcome
back
we're
gonna
go
to
number
item
number
five.
C
Now
we're
getting
a
little
salty,
now
item
number
five
PUD
22-62
and
SUV
22-64.
C
N
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
the
item
before
you
was
a
request
for
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development
comprised
of
four
single-family
homes
on
0.58
Acres,
located
at
1022
West
Targhee
Street
in
an
r1c
Zone
a
preliminary
plant
for
a
residential
subdivision
comprised
of
one
common
and
four
buildable
Lots
is
also
included.
The
subject
property
currently
contains
one
single-family
home
and
accessory
structures
which
will
be
removed
to
accommodate
the
proposed
development.
Four
new
homes
are
proposed,
which
will
be
accessed
by
a
shared
driveway
from
Target
street
through
the
Pud.
N
The
applicant
request
deviations
from
dimensional
standards
encode.
As
shown
on
this
slide.
However,
the
proposal
does
comply
with
the
density
limits
of
the
r1c
zone
and
all
exterior
setback
requirements.
All
Landscaping
screening
and
open
space
requirements
are
also
met.
A
recommended
condition
of
approval
requires
the
home
on
Lot
1,
to
have
an
entrance
oriented
towards
Target
Street
to
provide
consistency
with
the
existing
streetscape
character
in
the
area.
N
The
applicant
proposes
pedestrian
connections
throughout
the
development,
along
with
five
foot
wide
attached
sidewalks
along
turkey
Street.
A
recommended
condition
of
approval
requires
the
improvements
along
Target
to
instead
include
detached
sidewalks,
with
a
10-foot
landscape
buffer
to
accommodate
class
1
trees.
Under
the
existing
overhead
power
lines,
the
applicant
has
expressed
opposition
to
this
condition.
N
However,
the
planning
team
finds
that
detached
sidewalks
are
appropriate
in
this
location,
as
a
comprehensive
plan
encourages
improving
pedestrian
safety
and
comfort,
the
site
is
in
close
proximity
to
existing
Transit
along
Broadway
Avenue
and
there's
potential
for
other
properties
along
Target
to
read
about
in
a
similar
manner.
In
the
future,
the
planning
team
finds
that,
as
conditioned,
the
application
complies
with
all
PUD
and
subdivision
requirements
and
recommends
approval
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
X
Kathy
Sewell
platform,
architecture,
design,
280,
North,
8,
Suite,
118,
Boise,
83702
architect
for
the
project,
we're
in
agreement
with
staff
site
specific
conditions
of
approval,
one
three
and
four,
as
Sabrina
mentioned,
the
one-ish
condition
that
we
do
want
to
discuss
with
the
commission
tonight
is
the
detached
sidewalk
with
the
10-foot
landscape
buffer.
The
project,
as
proposed,
provides
a
five
foot
attached
sidewalk.
This
was
proposed
primarily
to
maintain
the
existing
Street
sidewalk
development
pattern
in
the
neighborhood.
X
You
know
we
do
understand
the
benefit
of
a
detached
sidewalk
as
providing
a
more
pedestrian
friendly
experience,
particularly
along
busier
streets.
The
challenge
with
our
project
in
an
established
neighborhood
like
on
pargie,
is
the
existence
of
attached
sidewalk
system
along
the
streets,
albeit
disconnected,
and
the
existing
Street
right-of-way
Dimensions
do
not
provide
the
required
width
to
accommodate
a
detached
sidewalk
system
without
significant
impacts
to
the
properties
and
I
was
hoping.
I
could
share
my
screen
if
that's
possible.
C
O
X
Okay,
so
I
can
share
my
screen
now
you.
A
X
X
This
is
an
r1c
zone,
so
a
fairly
low
density,
Zone
you'll
see
that
Target
is
off
of
Broadway
and
then
dead
ends
just
at
the
base
of
Federal
Way,
and
the
other
thing
that
this
map
shows
is
that
Target
is
a
pretty
low
traffic
type
street.
It's
not
a
any
kind
of
a
through
Street.
X
X
So
that's
just
you
know
it's
kind
of
broken
up
along
here.
You
can
see
here
these
narrower
Lots,
some
newer
type
development,
a
flag
lot
here,
newer
type
development
here
I'll
have
a
picture
later
of
this
newer
development,
which
does
not
have
any
sidewalks
on
it.
So
the
the
other
challenge
with
our
project,
as
I
mentioned,
was
the
right-of-way
direct
right
of
way
with
her
achd
Target
is
a
local
Street
standard.
Local
Street
section
is
a
33
foot
wide
street
with
a
47-foot
right-of-way.
X
This
would
provide
for
an
attached
sidewalk
for
achd
policy
targets.
Street
section
is
30
feet
wide
streetway
with
36
foot
right-of-way,
and
just
a
note
here
that
with
achd
the
33
foot
wide
Street
section
allows
for
parking
on
both
sides.
X
So
Targhee
is
a
little
bit
narrow
in
that
regard,
once
you
start
to
require
a
detached
sidewalk,
typically
with
an
eight
foot
planner
as
Boise
City
often
indicates
then
you're
looking
at
for
a
standard,
local
Street,
still
30
30
foot
wide
Street
section,
but
now
you
need
55
59
foot
of
right-of-way
targy
is
a
little
unique
in
trying
to
provide
a
detached.
Sidewalk
is
that
along
the
north
side
of
Target,
there
is
a
power
line,
and
so
a
staff
is
conditioned
with
our
application.
X
A
10-foot
planter
so
with
the
requirements
for
Target
to
provide
a
detached
sidewalk
on
both
sides
of
the
street
would
require
60
feet
and,
as
indicated
up
here
right
now,
there's
just
36
feet
so
to
provide
a
you
know,
Boise
City's
preferred
sidewalk
system
would
require
an
additional
24
feet
of
right-of-way
to
make
that
happen,
which
would
result
in
easements
on
the
the
properties
along
there,
as
proposed
right
now
with
our
five
foot
attached
sidewalk.
Assuming
that
you
know
at
some
point
in
time,
hopefully
both
sides
of
the
street.
X
X
Here's
the
intersection
of
Target
and
Broadway,
looking
down
towards
Target
towards
our
site,
you'll
start
to
see
here's
some
of
that
attached,
sidewalk
system,
just
west
of
that
intersection
and
one
item
to
note-
is
that
a
lot
of
the
homes
along
Target
are
built.
A
little
close
to
the
street,
and
so,
if
you
can
imagine
trying
to
provide
a
detached
sidewalk
system
here
that
sidewalk
would
would
be
in
that
in
that
driveway
moving
along
a
little
bit
more
quicker
here.
Here's
our
subject:
property!
X
X
This
is
just
looking
West
down
towards
the
dead
end
of
targy,
no
sidewalks
on
either
side,
but
once
again
kind
of
get
the
sense
of
where
existing
improvements
are
on
that
street
once
again,
right
across
the
street,
the
five
foot
attached
sidewalk
once
again
just
trying
to
imagine
this
is
a
detached
system
that
would,
you
know,
certainly
be
close
to
to
that
house
at
some
point
in
time.
This
is
right
across
the
street
once
again,
imagining
a
detached,
sidewalk,
That
Sidewalk
would
be.
X
You
know
right
at
those
garage
doors,
just
looking
East
towards
Broadway
right
next
to
our
parcel
to
some
landscaping
and
other
improvements
along
there.
X
This
is
down
West
End
of
Target,
where
there
is
some
newer
development
kind
of
more
of
that
narrow
lot
infill,
where
they
just
provide
an
attached,
sidewalk
system,
and
then
this
is
almost
at
the
dead
end
section
of
Targhee,
where
once
again,
a
newer
type
development,
where
there's
no
sidewalk
just
The
Pedestrian
connection
from
the
street
to
the
house,
so
just
wanted
to
come
back
to
this
slide
real
quick.
These
were
the
the
sidewalk
sections
that
I
identified
and
then
here's
our
specific
project.
X
Here's
that
sidewalk
system
that's
across
the
street.
Here's
where
we
are
proposing
to
provide
a
five
foot
attached
sidewalk.
This
will
require
an
additional
five
foot
of
right-of-way
dedication
to
achd,
as
proposed.
We
do
have
two
trees
planted
in
that
buffer
between
the
sidewalk
to
and
and
the
house.
X
The
red
here
shows
what
would
be
a
detached
sidewalk
with
a
10
foot
landscape
buffer.
You
know,
obviously,
these
two
trees
would
move
into
to
this
area.
Here.
Do
just
want
to
note
that
you
know
with
that
detached
sidewalk.
It
does
start
to
encroach
into
that
front
elevation
of
that
one
house
and
then
just
finally,
you
know
part
of
the
the
problem
once
again
with
this
idea
of
a
detached
sidewalk
in
this
particular
situation
is
how
that
terminates.
You
know
we're
mid-block.
X
This
image
here
shows
where
our
five
foot
attached
sidewalk
would
occur
at
the
East
end
of
our
our
property
and
then
here's
at
the
West
End.
You
know
we
have
to
work
around
a
power
pole
on
our
side,
but
then
here's
what
happens
when
you
start
to
introduce
the
the
detached
sidewalk.
You
know
we
are,
you
know,
hitting
fences
disconnection
from
the
street
on
both
sides,
so
anyway,
I
just
wanted
to
you
know.
As
we
mentioned
earlier,
we
certainly
understand
the
the
benefit
of
a
detached
sidewalk.
X
X
C
Okay,
thank
you.
Catherine
first,
we'll
check
in
with
the
neighborhood
association
I
see
Mr
Berg
is
online.
Eric.
Are
you
here
to
testify,
on
behalf
of
the
neighborhood
association
on
this
item.
Y
C
G
Mr
chair
Mr
Blanchard,
if
I
might
really
quickly
Sabrina.
Have
we
not
done
anything
in
city
code
to
address
the
use
of
flag,
Luts.
K
Question
for
staff,
or
maybe
Mr
Smith,
regarding
the
applicants,
explanation
of
the
detached
impacts
and
easements
and
all
that
is
there.
Yeah
I,
understand
the
city's
desire
for
the
detached
versus
attached.
But
in
this
case
it
seems
attached
makes
the
most
amount
of
sense
given
the
right-of-way
is
there
come
a
point
where
it's
a
taking
where
we're
insisting
on
detached
and
we're
ended
up
shoving,
sidewalks
well
into
property
lines,
private
property.
L
Facetiously
I
might
say
how
much
time
do
you
have,
commissioner,
but,
but
that
that's,
that
becomes
a
very
complex
subject
and
without
without
conceding
that
it's
even
implicated
here,
I
would
say
maybe
a
better
way
to
approach
that
concern
is
to
if
you
would
like
to
to
investigate
that
further
is
to
further
develop
the
record
through
some
questions
to
the
Apple
applicant
in
terms
of
practical
impacts,
economic
impact
to
the
to
to
the
developer.
L
What
what
the
difference
differences
would
be
between
the
two
different
types
of
sidewalks,
how
it
relates
to
the
overall
size
of
the
site
costs
the
development
things
like
that
in
terms
of
what
the,
how
how
those
sidewalks
would
affect
the
neighborhood
in
terms
of
mitigating
pedestrian
activities
and
anticipated
impacts
from
this
development,
and
perhaps
questions
along
those
lines
to
staff
as
well.
Thanks
thanks.
K
James
Mr
chair,
yes,.
K
N
N
That
connection
isn't
going
to
be
ideal.
Staff's
opinion
is
that,
once
those
properties
do
redevelop
in
the
future,
having
the
detached
sidewalk
is
preferable
because
of
the
increased
pedestrian
safety
and
comfort.
D
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Gillespie
a
question
for
the
city,
so
the
applicant
also
made
the
argument
that
there
was
some
very
specific
facts
related
to
Target
that
it
you
know
it
dead,
ended
into
the
slope,
I
think
on
the
west
end,
so
it
wasn't
really
a
through
Street.
It
was,
and
you
know
it
was
collecting
a
relatively
small
amount
of
traffic
and
they
they
used.
That
argument
to
say
you
know,
therefore,
the
benefit
of
a
detached
sidewalk
is
somewhat
diminished,
because
it's
not
a
really
busy
street
to
begin
with,
because
of
the
physical
characteristics.
N
N
You
know
through
this
current
application,
they
are
proposing
to
add
three
additional
units
onto
a
site
that
currently
has
one.
There
is
potential
for
other
properties
along
Target
to
redevelop
in
a
similar,
Manner
and
add
additional
units
that
would
hypothetically
increase
pedestrian
traffic
as
well,
and
there
is
existing
Transit
along
Broadway
that
we
do
want
to
provide
good
pedestrian
access
to.
D
Mr
chairman,
no
so
Sabrina
just
looking
at
the
area
map,
so
the
applicant
pointed
out
that
Target
kind
of
dead
ends
just
to
the
what
east
of
Federal
Way.
Isn't
that?
Where
there's
like
a
big
like
a
bank
almost
so
that,
in
fact
there's
is,
it
is
the
applicant's
contention
that
Target
will
never
connect
on
the
West
Side
to
Federal
Way.
Is
that
correct,
or
or
what
you're
I
mean
seems
correct
to
me?
I
have
to
pose
everything
as
a
question
because
we're
on
Jeopardy
so.
N
No
commissioner,
chair
or
Mr
chair,
commissioner
Gillespie
I,
would
say
it's
unlikely
that
that
would
be
extended
to
connect
to
Federal
Way
in
the
future.
H
Chair
push
daily,
but
that
would
potentially
go
to
the
Federal
Way,
the
the
New
York
Canal
pathway,
which
is
probably
in
our
Pathways
plan
right.
So
there
is
a
potential
for
a
connection
to
get
up
and
down.
My
question
to
you:
Sabrina
is
I'm.
Trying
to
look
this
up,
but
I
couldn't
find
it
accessory
dwelling
unit.
Does
that
trigger
sidewalk
Construction.
N
H
N
A
C
C
C
Okay,
all
right
we'll
go
ahead
then,
and
bring
it
back
to
the
applicant
for
a
quick
rebuttal.
X
All
right,
thank
you,
Kathy
Sewell,
you
know,
I.
Think
I've
worked
with
this
developer
on
a
couple
other
projects
where
we
have
had
to
come
in
and
put
in
DTaP
sidewalks
and
we've
had
the
real
estate
to
do
so.
X
You
know,
and
and
just
in
this
particular
situation
with
Target
recognizing
the
unique
situation
of
you
know,
essentially
a
dead
industry,
low
density,
r1c
Zone
that
you
know
we
felt
that
with
the
existing
you
know,
system
already
in
place
and
just
the
proximity
of
other
properties
to
the
street
and
really
trying
to
Envision
detach
sidewalk
all
along
there.
X
It
just
seemed
more
appropriate
to
maintain
the
attached,
sidewalk
and
and
hope
for
future
connectivity
all
the
way
to
Broadway.
Thank
you.
G
C
G
I
guess
yeah.
My
only
question
was
whether
we're
still
doing
this
I'll
apologize
to
the
planning
gods
for
all
the
flag,
lots
that
we've
approved
in
that
neighborhood,
but
I
guess,
there's
a
conflict.
You
know
I
guess
in
my
mind,
is
an
urbanist
between
what
you
know
what's
really
been
deprecated
in
planning
practice.
You
know,
building
on
flag
Lots
like
that,
but
also
at
the
same
time,
knowing
that
this
is
a
good
place
for
density,
and
so
it
is
a
little
bit
I'm
a
little
bit
conflicted
on
that.
G
But
yeah
there's
nothing!
There's
nothing
inherently
wrong
and
the
codes
will
be
supporting
this.
H
Oh
no
I
understand
I
completely
and
totally
understand
what
the
staff
is
trying
to
do,
and
this
is
one
of
those
sort
of
square
peg
around
hole,
type
of
of
issues
in
Greenfield
areas.
It's
easy
can
be
in
areas
that
are
less
dense,
larger
lot
still
fairly
easy
in
this
situation.
It's
incredibly
difficult,
I,
look
at
this
environment.
I
see
a
local
street
that
dead
ends.
Detached
sidewalks
are
primarily
used
as
a
bit
of
a
defense
mechanism
on
a
busier
road.
I.
H
Don't
see
that
in
this
situation,
two
is
the
several
new
homes
in
that
vicinity
and
the
likelihood
of
them
turning
over
and
redeveloping
anytime
soon
to
get
the
additional
detached,
sidewalk
I,
don't
see
that
I
just
don't
see
the
probability
there
being
very
high
and
I.
Think
probably
most
concerning
is
what
the
image
was
shown
is.
If
we
do
require
this,
we
are
there's
no
way
for
that
sidewalk
to
be
pulled
back
across
somebody
else's
private
property
to
come
back
to
the
attached
sidewalk,
so
we're
having
an
Island.
H
Then
then
stand
our
ground
on
something
that
I
just
I,
don't
see
happening
in
really
any
time
in
the
in
the
future.
So
for
those
reasons,
I'll
be
supportive,
emotion,.
D
G
I,
would
you
like
to
I,
do
need
to
amend
my
twos
to
say
that
yes,
I,
think
we
approve
it
without
requiring
the
detached
sidewalk?
Do.
C
D
So
Robert,
okay,
my
advice
is
now
just
say
you
that
you'll
accept
the
amended
motion
with
unanimous
consent
and
give
everyone
a
chance
to
say
no.
We
want
to
vote
on
it.
Okay,
so
you
have
just
have
to
say.
C
D
You
meant
it
we're
good.
It's
a
point
of
information,
so
technically
emotions
at
the
table.
We
want
to
amend
it.
Robert
says
you
have
to
vote
on
it,
blah
blah
blah
blah
another
way
we
do
it
Council
does
it
is
this?
Is
this
family,
Amendment
and
I
think
the
way
you
clean?
That
up
is
if
Bob
just
says
the
motion
during
the
secondary
agreed
that
we
could
have
attached
sidewalks
and
we'll
change
the
motion
without
objection
from
any
of
us?
Yes,
so
you
kind
of
have
to
say
that
I
know
thank.
C
D
J
D
D
F
D
K
I
am
indeed
I'm
glad
I
was
confused
by
commissioner
danley's
Second
and
then
not
really
seconding,
so
I
agree
with
him
completely.
An
island
is
not
what
I
wanted.
C
Okay,
that's
right
all
right,
very
good!
We're
gonna
go
ahead
and
call
the
vote
then
we're
on
the
same
page
with
the
motion
here.
So
we're
recommending
approval
of
SUV,
22-64
and
proving.
A
C
22-62
with
one
Amendment
and
that
being
the
removal
of
condition
number
two
requiring
detached
a
detached
sidewalk
will
the
clerk
please
call
the
roll
Mr.
C
A
G
V
A
C
All
right,
last
but
not
least,
tonight
item
number
six
PUD
22-53
and
it
should
be
22-55,
Rodney,
Evans
and
Partners
at
478
and
506
West
Highland
Street.
These
items
were
deferred
from
our
meeting
on
December
12th.
It's
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
plan,
residential
development
comprising
of
five
single-family
units
of
0.64
Acres
and
the
preliminary
preliminary
plot
for
said
subdivision,
one
common
law
and
five
blots
and
we're
here
from
Sabrina
Mortensen
again
with
staff.
N
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission.
The
item
before
you
is
a
request
for
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development
comprised
of
five
single-family
homes
on
0.64
Acres,
located
at
478
and
506
West
Highland
Street
in
an
r1c
Zone
a
preliminary
plant
for
residential
subdivision
comprised
of
one
common
and
five
buildable
Lots
is
also
included.
N
The
subject
property
currently
contains
two
single-family
homes,
which
will
be
preserved
in
two
detached
garages,
which
will
be
demolished
to
accommodate
the
proposed
development.
Three
new
two-story
homes
are
proposed
to
the
north
of
the
two
existing
one-story
homes.
A
shared
driveway
from
Highland
Street
will
be
constructed
between
the
two
existing
homes
and
will
provide
all
vehicular
access
for
the
development.
The
planning
team
finds
that
the
application
complies
with
all
required,
PUD
findings
and
to
date,
no
public
agencies
have
voiced
opposition
to
this
request.
N
However,
written
opposition
has
been
received
from
the
neighborhood
association
and
one
neighbor.
Their
comments
expressed
concern
regarding
the
reduced
lot
sizes
and
internal
setbacks,
which
are
requested
with
the
Pud
parking
and
suggestion
along
the
shared
driveway
lack
of
amenities,
the
potential
for
the
proposed
homes
to
be
occupied
by
groups
of
students
who
may
generate
higher
impacts
than
traditional
single
families
and
the
potential
for
city
services,
including
fire
and
solid
waste,
to
have
difficulty
accessing
the
site.
N
However,
The
Proposal
complies
with
the
eight
unit
per
acre
density
limit
of
the
r1c
zone,
and
the
requested
deviations
from
the
dimensional
standards
will
allow
the
existing
homes
on
the
site
to
be
preserved
while
complying
with
all
external
setback
requirements.
As
the
project
is
under
one
acre
in
size,
no
amenities
are
required
and
more
than
100
square
feet
of
open
space
per
unit
is
provided.
W
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
Ben
sample
Rodney
Evans
and
partners,
1450
West
Bannock,
Street,
Boise,
Idaho
83702.
We
are
in
agreement
with
the
staff
report
and
all
conditions
of
approval,
including
the
Reconstruction
of
sidewalk,
as
detached
along
Highland
they're
were
concerns
not
during
the
neighborhood
meeting,
but
during
or
looking
at
correspondence
from
Neighbors
regarding
privacy,
property
value
access
and
the
potential
for
the
site
to
have
homes
that
are
rented
as
Sabrina
had
stated.
Boise
fire
in
solid
waste
both
confirmed
that
their
access
is
adequate.
W
We're
setting
up
a
cart
staging
area
in
here
for
carts
to
be
staged,
and
then
they
would
more
than
likely
pay
for
Carryout
Service
from
interior
to
the
site.
The
driveway
will
be
a
minimum
of
20
feet
wide.
It
doesn't
go
more
than
150
feet
into
the
site,
so
Boise
fire
indicated
they
could
pull
in
and
back
out
no
problem.
W
The
homes
are
designed
to
limit
Windows
in
bedrooms
or
livable
space
on
the
exterior
sides.
So
the
two
homes
in
the
back
probably
would
have
the
most
concern
for
privacy
for
Neighbors
those
have
transom
windows
or
within
a
stairwell
to
the
second
floor.
The
homes
to
the
east,
it's
a
five
building,
condo
development,
those
are
also
two-story
ish.
You
know
partial
two-story.
They
definitely
have
a
second
story
with
Windows,
but
considering
the
site
is
vastly
underutilized
in
terms
of
housing.
I
could
only
see
an
increase
in
property
values.
W
They'll
have
new
comps
in
the
neighborhood
with
garages
and
more
than
adequate
parking,
and
regarding
renters,
you
know
if
you
haven't
rented
a
house
in
your
life,
you're,
probably
the
exception
to
the
rule
renters,
whether
they
be
students,
co-renting
professionals,
that
work
somewhere
together
and
want
to
reduce
their
costs
because
of
housing
costs
right
now,
as
well
as
the
potential
for
purchase
for
generational
living
or
single-family
living.
For
that
matter,
can't
restrict
renting
in
a
residential
neighborhood.
W
Y
Hi
can
I
get
the
ability
to
share
screen.
A
Y
Y
Y
We
can't
separate
the
two
because
they're
one
in
the
same,
this
project
isn't
clearly
not
designed
nor
intended
for
single
family
use,
which
changes
how
we
have
to
look
at
factors
for
approval
for
a
plan
unit
developer.
This
project
proposes
variances
in
reduction
after
reduction,
to
fit
a
project
that
is
impossible
to
see
as
a
single
family
unit
and
provides
no
required
benefit
to
the
community.
Y
The
code
outlines
a
variety
of
benefits.
A
PUD
might
create
for
the
public,
and
yet
the
applicant
fails
to
demonstrate
either
in
their
documentation,
testimony
or
anything
else
that
the
project
meets
any
of
them.
There's
no
common
open
space,
merely
a
common
paved
Road.
Nor
are
there
any
natural
features
preserved.
At
no
point
does
the
letter
of
intent
or
testimony
even
attempt
to
provide
examples
of
a
public
benefit
which
is
required
finding
to
approve
a
PUD
without
any
required
public
benefit.
They
ask
for
reduced
setbacks,
reduce
lot
size
requirements
along
with
a
complete
Frontage
exemption.
Y
Allowing
very
requirements
clearly
require
a
public
benefit,
as
laid
out
in
the
Pud
code,
or
a
hardship
or
exceptional
circumstance
is
laid
out
in
the
variance
code.
There
is
simply
no
public
benefit
and
there
are
no
hardships
or
exceptional
circumstances.
In
this
project
there
are
no
survey,
discrepancies
or
natural
features
that
would
require
reduced
setbacks
to
make
the
lot
buildable.
Y
Y
The
barrier
to
get
approved
for
a
buy
right.
Development
is
properly
low.
Once
you
show
you
qualify,
no
public
benefit
need
be
presented.
The
development
is
assumed
to
be
a
net
positive
or
neutral
on
others
by
simply
meeting
the
code.
The
code,
in
theory
at
least,
is
designed
such
that
by
right,
development
has
effectively
already
gotten
the
consent
and
Faith
of
the
public.
Through
the
code
adoption
process
conditional
use
permits,
plan
unit
developments,
variances
non-conforming
uses
demand
a
higher
bar
because
they're
asking
for
exemptions
to
that
code.
Y
The
agreement
between
the
public
and
the
applicant
becomes
in
that
case
that
the
public
is
willing
to
trade,
some
exemption
for
other
public
benefits.
As
long
as
the
you
know,
as
long
as
the
effects
are
not
negative,
the
definition
in
the
code
of
dwelling
single
family
is
a
building
designed
for
use
and
occupancy
by
no
more
than
one
family
for
the
plan,
a
building
it
encompasses
four
bedrooms
and
four
and
a
half
baths
according
to
the
plant.
Y
In
addition,
there
is
an
Office
Den
which
legally
qualifies
as
a
bed
and
in
other
developments
by
the
same
applicant,
it
has
been
admitted
that
there
is
nothing
present
for
preventing
it
to
be
used
and
rented
as
a
bedroom.
So
these
are
effectively
five
bedroom
units,
there's
also
a
lock
that
is
larger
in
size
than
all,
but
the
master
bedroom
and
could
also
be
conceivably
used
as
one
Plan
B
buildings
have
four
bedrooms
with
an
additional
office
and
den
that
can
again
be
utilized
as
a
bedroom.
Y
In
addition
to
the
four
bedrooms,
when
one
looks
at
these
four
plans,
The,
Form
and
Function
is
clear
and
most
closely
resembles
other
duplexes
and
homes
submitted
by
this
exact
same
applicant
with
a
plethora
of
bedrooms
and
bathrooms,
whose
sole
purpose
is
to
house
college
students.
We
know
this
because
nowhere
else
in
the
city
are
these
sorts
of
houses
built
even
in
our
current
housing
shortage.
This
form
of
building
resides
only
within
a
small
radius
from
the
University,
because
the
form
is
optimized
for
the
dormitory
style
use
now
I
want
to
be
clear.
Y
Y
However,
this
use
radically
changes
the
reality
of
the
decision
factors
that
the
commission
must
mean,
for
example,
the
commission
must
find,
in
addition
to
other
Provisions,
that
the
proposed
use
will
not
place
an
undue
burden
on
transportation
and
other
public
facilities
in
the
vicinity.
The
site
is
large
enough
to
accommodate
the
proposed
use,
and
the
proposed
use,
if
it
complies
with
all
conditions
imposed,
will
not
adversely
affect
other
property
in
the
vicinity.
Y
Understanding
that
this
project
is
built
with
the
intent
to
house
five
adults
fundamentally
changes
how
we
look
at
the
burden
placed
on
the
vicinity.
Parking
requirements
for
two
cars
per
dwelling
unit
makes
sense
to
accommodate
the
assumed
demand
of
a
family
that
might
have
one
to
three
drivers
at
any
time.
However,
this
fails
to
prevent
burden
to
the
vicinity
when
the
project
is
designed
for
a
maximum
of
Five
drivers
at
any
time.
Y
The
one
thing
we
know
about
college
students
is
they're
all
of
the
right
age
to
have
a
call.
Some
areas
where
these
projects
have
been
approved
been
able
to
take
some
of
the
burden
on
surface
streets
that,
while
not
removing
the
burden,
has
mitigated
itself.
I
live
next
to
some
of
these
projects.
However,
this
project
is
on
a
private
drive.
That
parking
will
not
be
usable
on
due
to
its
width,
as
the
applicant
is
set
parking
on.
Y
Y
The
reason
we
must
see
projects
is
what
they
are
intended
for
and
what
they
are
designed
to
do
is.
These
are
the
effects
that
are
felt
by
the
city,
public
services
and
neighbors.
It's
not
theoretical
effects,
but
the
fact
that
real
lived
human
experiences
show
that
must
be
taken
to
account
when
considering
whether
planning
developments
are
in
the
Public's
best
interest.
Y
Y
The
answer
in
the
case
in
this
case
is
obvious.
The
project
fails
to
meet
the
standard
and
code
to
allow
for
a
PUD
and
must
be
rejected.
We
really
do
want
to
see
more
in
fill
in
this
area
like
we
saw
on
target,
but
we
need
to
see
a
proposal
that
meets
the
standard,
provides
public
benefit
and
doesn't
burden
public
services
or
the
vicinity,
and
we
hope
to
see
the
applicant
make
such
a
proposal
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
A
D
I
have
a
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Gillespie
so
I
have
a
question
for
the
city
and
for
Mr
Berg,
so
I
have
dutifully
chewed
through
the
project
report
and
I
did
not
see
there
a
condition
or
a
finding
required
for
a
PUD
that
it
provide
a
public
amenity
or
a
public
benefit.
It
wasn't
one
of
the
I
think
there
were
five
conditions,
so
I
guess
my
question
about
the
city
and
the
Mr
Berg
is:
did
I
miss
something
and
where
does
this
notion
of
benefit
come
into
our
approval
criteria?.
N
Y
Y
I
think
that's
very
clear
that
if
you
were
to
do
a
PUD,
you
have
two
burdens:
one,
the
developer
gets
something
out
of
it
and
two:
the
public
gets
something
out
of
it
and
I.
Don't
expect
them
to
put
a
park
in
a
and
a
lot
size
of
this
size.
D
Mr
Simple
Mr,
chairman
Please.
Y
D
W
Mr
chair
commissioner
Gillespie
yeah.
The
the
intent
of
this
project
is
to
help
in
a
very
small
way,
address
affordability
and
housing
costs
by
providing
additional
units
that
can
help
thereby
drop
in
the
bucket
reduce
overall
costs,
which
we
see
as
a
public
benefit.
Y
Mr
Chairman's,
commissioner,
my
argument
is
that
you
could
argue
that
same
thing
for
any
development
of
any
sort,
and
there
would
be
no
reason
to
have
a
requirement
for
requiring
a
public
benefit.
If
all
that
you
would
be
needing
to
establish
a
public
benefit
is
saying:
I'm,
building
housing
right.
If
any
development
could
meet
this
standard,
then
why
would
we
have
the
standard
in
the
first
place?
It's
certainly
a
benefit
to
the
city
to
have
more
housing,
but
that
is
the
inherent
requirement
in
a
by
use
situation,
not
necessarily
a
planned
unit.
D
A
question
of
the
city,
so
the
city
council.
In
writing.
Their
code
did
decide
that
for
puds
greater
than
an
acre,
a
specific
public
benefit
must
be
included
and
the
code
lists
out
what
those
are
in
some
detail
and
we
fuss
about
those
all
the
time.
But
the
city
council
and
its
wisdom
decided
for
smaller
less
than
an
acre
puds,
not
to
include
that
as
a
criteria
requirement.
Is
that
correct.
N
H
Daily,
just
something
else
to
consider
here,
I
guess
in
in
this
line
of
thinking-
is
that
so
there's
already
sidewalks
in
this
vicinity
or
on
this
parcel
so
there's
an
in
an
inability
to
provide
that
benefit.
H
Just
food
for
thought,
I'm,
gonna,
guess,
you're!
Writing
a
sizable
impact
fee
check
and
you're
not
going
to
be
seeing
any
benefits
to
the
arterial
system
anywhere
near
you,
because
it's
not
in
the
CIP,
so
the
public
at
large
is
going
to
be
receiving
monies
for
projects
they're
going
to
go
probably
well
outside
of
your
area,
more
food
for
thought,
I,
guess,
but
a
question
of
staff.
So
in
this
instance
this
notion
of
variance
versus
this
is
a
cup,
and
this
is
in
the
C.
H
This
is
cup
for
PUD
and
God
love
our
planning
acronyms,
but
you
get.
My
point
is:
is
that
this
is
permitted
within
the
Pud
of
our
zone
is
to
allow
these
types
of
shifts
of
setbacks
and
such
and
parcel
size
in
order
to
fulfill
what
our
code
says
on
puds
subject
to
the
conditional
use
permit,
which
does
have
its
own
set
of
Standards
about
public
health
safety,
comp
plan
and
all
of
that
stuff.
But
that's
the
general
argument
of
the
city
is
that
right.
N
Mr
chair,
commissioner
Danley,
that's
correct
if
they
were
requesting
variations
from
the
exterior
setbacks.
That
would
require
a
variance
but
internal
to
the
site
that
can
be
approved
by
the
commission
through
the
Pud.
Thank.
H
A
C
V
Okay,
yes,
this
is
Kirk
Hall
I
live
at
346,
West
Reese,
which
is
a
property
to
the
east
of
this
I'm,
just
curious
of.
If
any
of
you
on
the
commission
have
been
by
the
property.
V
Okay,
well,
what
I
realized
when
Mr
Berg
was
talking
is
that
I
understand
the
two
homes
that
are
remaining
are
past
their
sell-by
date
and
currently
are
being
rented
one
has
one
person
the
other
has
four
the
the
homes
that
will
be
built
behind
them
will
be
quite
unattractive
to
someone
buying
for
themselves
and
their
family
most
likely
they'll
be
purchased
for
rental,
because
they
that's
how
you
can
make
your
money
off
of
it.
So
it's
pretty
clear
what
the
purpose
is.
V
I'm
also
concerned:
we've
had
a
number
of
activities
in
the
area,
particularly
the
one
at
Highland
and
South
Londoner.
That's
now
just
an
empty
lot
and
we
lost
our
Sequoia,
so
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
as
to
why
this
wasn't
done
by
removing
the
other
two
houses
and
having
a
true
planned
unit
development.
V
I
do
note
that
I
was
pleased
to
hear
that
the
windows
overlooking
the
properties
are
being
set
in
a
way
that
they
don't
intrude
on
either
property,
because
with
five
foot
setbacks,
all
the
trees
are
going
to
be
removed.
All
that
really
separates
the
two
properties
are
fences
and
a
question
really
for
the
developer,
who
owns
the
fences,
who's
going
to
maintain
them,
and
that's
all
I
really
need
to
say.
Thank
you.
N
Hi,
my
name
is
Alexandra
mondra
I
live
at
222
West
Kootenai
Street
I
just
wanted
to
mention
my
support
for
this
project.
I
think
that
preserving
the
existing
housing
and
keeping
materials
out
of
the
landfill,
while
adding
density
to
an
area
that
has
existing
infrastructure,
is
a
smart
use
of
creative
opportunities
in
our
zoning
code
and
I.
N
Don't
think
that
the
city
has
an
interest
in
deciding
what
type
of
housing
is
attractive
to
what
type
of
resident,
whether
that
be
owner
or
renter,
and
I
really
think
that
the
housing
itself
is
it's
great
to
have
flexibility
in
how
it
can
be
used,
it
could
be
used
for
students,
it
could
be
used
for
a
single,
a
single
family.
It
could
be
used
for
multi-generational
family.
That
needs
maybe
a
little
more
privacy
for
adult
members
of
that
family
or
even
a
single
adults
working
at
or
near
the
university.
N
W
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission
yeah,
you
know
the
intended
use
here
is
to
build
some
housing,
whether
that's
co-share,
multi-generational,
family,
single
families,
look
very
different
depending
on
where
you
go.
They
can
be
two
people.
They
can
be
six
people
there's
a
lot
of
housing
in
our
Valley
that
has
four
or
five
six
bedrooms
in
larger
subdivisions.
Just
because
this
is
an
infill.
Development
doesn't
mean
that
it's
unattractive
to
that
type
of
buyer.
W
I
would
argue
that
it's
more
attractive
to
people
that
work
downtown
work
at
St,
Luke's,
there's
a
group
of
nursing
workers
that
want
to
all
live
together,
because
that
helps
save
money.
This
is
the
place
for
them.
We're
not
proposing
any
variances.
Everything
is
a
request
on
the
Pud
internal
or
meeting
or
exceeding
all
of
the
setbacks
external
to
this
project.
W
The
single-family
homes
remaining
in
the
front
they're
set
back
pretty
far
from
Highland,
which
actually
helps
facilitate
detached
sidewalks
with
Street
trees
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
curb
which,
in
my
mind,
is
a
public
benefit
and
an
amenity
as
discussed
that
helping
address
housing
costs
in
general
I
feel
is
a
public
amenity.
We
are
trying
to
retain
trees
where
possible,
where
they
don't
fall
in
the
building
envelopes.
We've
had
a
certified
Arborist
on
the
site
is
a
full
mitigation
report.
W
We've
talked
to
the
neighbor
to
the
west
of
here
we're
working
with
him,
because
there's
a
lot
of
volunteer
trees
in
the
fence
lines
and
they're
dropping
branches.
There's
a
couple
things
that
look
like
they're
going
to
fall
on
houses
soon.
Those
will
be
coming
down.
We're
actually
talking
with
him
about
planting
some
trees
in
his
yard
in
his
yard,
because
he
has
a
larger
yard
space
to
help
address
some
mitigation.
W
Regarding
the
fencing,
I,
don't
know
if
that
was
the
neighbor
that
was
on
the
neighborhood
meeting
or
not,
but
this
developer
intends
to
repair
replace
that
fencing
as
necessary
to
really
make
this
development
a
nice
Improvement
and
I
mean
we
have
no
feedback
from
any
jurisdiction.
That
indicates
any
negative
impact
on
any
facility,
public,
private
or
otherwise.
So
we
look
forward
to
this
project
moving
forward
and
I
would
request
respectfully
request
your
approval.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
C
Thanks
Ben,
okay,
we'll
bring
this
back
before
the
commission
to
render
a
decision.
One
last
reminder
that
we're
recommending
on
the
sub
on
this
should
be
22-55,
and
then
we
also
have
PUD
2253.
C
C
H
Off
yeah,
so
a
few
different
things,
one
I
think
it's
creative
I
think
you're,
seeing
a
courtyard
Concept
in
this
application
that
is
starting
to
have
its
day
again
in
the
planning
discussion
around
this
country
is
a
different
type
of
housing
product
and
that's
kind
of
what
this
is
so
I.
Think
that's
a
good
thing.
One
other
thing
is
with
the
sub
I
believe
you
can
create
a
deed
restriction
on
parking,
and
so,
if
that
becomes
an
issue,
you
can
craft
your
own
deed
and
and
enforce
it.
H
How
you
need
to
two
more
things:
one
is
we.
This
city
has
a
significant
need
for
rental
properties
that
are
multiple
bedrooms.
Four
larger
families
I
know
that,
because
I've
been
part
of
the
discussions
with
that,
and
so
it's
it's
a
product,
that's
not
built
very
often,
and
it's
very
much
in
need.
My
last
point
is
this:
the
notion
that
a
conditional
use
permit
somehow
is
Noble
is
is
incorrect.
H
The
history
and
roots
of
a
conditional
use
permit
are
dubious.
They've
been
used
throughout
the
history
of
this
country
to
do
a
lot
of
unfortunate
things
and
keep
people
from
living
in
certain
neighborhoods,
whether
it
be
by
race
or
a
class,
or
what
have
you?
So
it's
not
necessarily
the
tool
that
is,
you
know
best
suitedness.
You
know
for
the
types
of
things
they
think
we
think
it
might
be.
It
has
its
history,
it's
not
always
a
good
history,
but
it's
still
in
the
general
planning
profession
and
in
our
code.
C
C
You
know
there
is
a
housing
lack
in
this
city
and
we
need
to
improve
that
and
I
think
this
is
a
an
appropriate
location
for
that
is
the
applicant
pointed
out.
You
know
there
are
no
variance
requests
here.
There's
we're
meeting
setbacks
for
adding
improvements,
as
the
city
requested,
so
I
think
that
it's
hard
to
say
no.
To
be
quite
honest.
So
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
call
the
roll
again
recommending
approval
on
SUV
22-55
and
approving
PUD
22-53
motion
bike,
Mr
Daly
seconds
by
commissioner
Gillespie.