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A
A
All
right,
hello,
everyone,
just
a
couple
announcements
melt,
won't
be
joining
us
tonight.
You
just
had
something
kind
of
come
up
last
minute,
but
we
still
have
quorum
so
we're
good
there.
A
Let's
see,
I
was
going
to
say
something
else.
Maybe
I
well.
I,
commissioner
blanchard
and
commissioner
schaefer
are
wearing
the
same
sweater.
So
that's
an
important
announcement.
A
Well,
you're
right,
I
missed
the
memo
we
forgot,
so
tonight's
work
session
is
with
our
very
own
leon
lutzen.
We
knew
he
couldn't
stay
away
very
long
and
he
just
wanted
to
come
back
and
join
us
yet
again,
so
he
is
here
virtually
tonight
and
we'll
be
presenting
some
information
on
the
grower
housing
program
which
has
been
really
really
kicking
into
gear
of
late.
So
we'll
go
through
that
and
then
we'll
do
the
agenda
after
he
wraps
up
and
we'll
get
started
at
six,
so
leon.
Take
it
away.
C
All
right,
thanks,
celine
and
good,
to
see
everyone
again
and
she's
right
really
missed
you
guys.
So,
although
I
did
have
the
pleasure
of
a
impromptu
housing
bonus
ordinance
discussion,
I
guess
it
was
a
month
ago
and
I'll
be
at
council
again
tomorrow
with
that
yeah.
So
I'll
share
with
you
the
grower
housing
program.
You
know
I
was
in
the
planning
department
forever
and
then
beginning
of
august.
C
They
finally
got
that
position
available
the
program
and
the
idea
has
been
in
place
since
2018,
but
there
had
been
kind
of
a
slowdown
and
hiring
for
the
position
and
fully
launching
the
program.
So
I've
been
doing
that
for
the
last
four
to
five
months
and
I'll
walk
you
through
kind
of
the
high
level.
You
know
what
are
we
focused
on?
What
are
the
the
strategic
priorities
of
the
program
and
highlight
some
projects
that
you've
you've
had
come
before
you
and
that
will
likely
come
before
you
in
the
near
future?
C
All
right,
it's
a
little
preview
of
everything
we're
going
to
go
over
here,
so
hopefully
didn't
read
too
closely
yeah
so
again,
just
outlining
what
grower
housing
is
all
about.
You
know
it's
interesting,
I
think,
for
this
commission.
Most
of
you
haven't
been
here
long
enough
to
have
participated
in
any
of
those
community
conversations
on
growth
and
other
other
major
community
discussions.
That
kind
of
led
to
this
idea.
C
You
know
these
numbers
certainly
need
refreshing,
but
we
even
a
couple
of
years
ago
knew
that
we
had
some
challenges
ahead
of
us
in
terms
of
new
people
to
the
community
and
and
how
we
would
house
them
just
from
a
numbers
standpoint.
So
again,
50
000
new
residents
over
the
next
20
years,
based
on
typical
household
size,
20
000
living
units
needed
a
year,
are
needed
in
total
in
a
thousand
units
per
year.
C
You
know,
and
that
was
kind
of
again
the
backdrop
for
what
we've
been
doing
for
the
last
couple
of
years
on
the
right
are
some
recent
headlines
that
really
indicate
that
there
is
some
housing
availability
and
definitely
affordability,
issues
in
our
community
and
I'm
sure
most
of
you
have
read
these
articles,
and
I
know
that
this
commission
is
aware
of
the
fact
that
you
know
housing
seems
to
dominate
our
agenda
or
our
agendas
and
has
for
several
years
as
a
result
of
all
this.
C
This
is
a
pretty
telling
graph
here.
You
know
just
kind
of
plotting
household
income
versus
household
price.
Obviously
this
gap
here
is
creating
a
lot
of
problems
for
a
lot
of
different
people.
In
our
community
at
various
income
levels,
not
just
you
know,
lower
wage
or
impoverished
individuals,
but
just
a
wide
range
of
folks
are
having
a
difficult
time
finding
a
home
in
our
community
as
a
result
of
what's
going
on
there,
and
you
know,
the
kind
of
the
stagnation
of
wages
is
certainly
a
problem
that
we've
been
running
into
for
a
long
time.
C
You
know
operating
at
the
same
minimum
wage
level.
The
federal
minimum
wage
level
for
the
last
10
plus
years
really
is
having
an
impact
on
you
know:
service,
industry,
workers
and
other
folks
kind
of
operating
or
earning
in
that
realm.
C
So
we're
very
aware
of
that
in
housing
and
and
the
point
of
grower
housing
is
to
try
to
address
that
here
again,
just
some
quick
numbers
showing
kind
of
the
breakdown
of
our
community
from
a
area
meeting
income
standpoint
you
know,
66
percent
of
the
of
the
community
is
at
120,
ami
or
above
which,
if
you
can
read
these
down
here
kind
of
shows
you
what
an
individual
or
a
household
of
four
are
making
as
a
result
of
existing
at
that
that
level.
C
C
You
know
someone
making
16
000
a
year
in
our
community
right
now
is
having
a
really
really
hard
time,
finding
any
any
housing
that
that
really
works
for
them,
particularly
when
you
only
consider
30
of
that
is
supposed
to
go
to
housing.
So
now
you
know
we're
talking
about
300
to
350
dollars
that
can
be
spent
on
housing
in
order
to
keep
them
out
of
the
cost
burden
category
and
that
housing
simply
just
doesn't
exist
in
our
community
right
now.
C
So
some
of
the
things
we've
seen
as
a
result
of
this
as
well
is
that
we
know
one
in
three:
new
housing
units
is
going
to
need
to
be
at
80
ami
or
below.
If
we
just
kind
of
plot
forward,
what's
going
on
with
with
income
levels
in
our
community
in
terms
of
existing
housing,
we
know
that
we
have
a
real
deficit
at
30
percent
amin
below
that
doesn't
mean
that
we're
short
6000
housing
units.
C
It
means
that
a
lot
of
folks
at
that
household
income
level
are
having
to
spend
a
lot
more
on
housing
and
again
kind
of
entering
that
cost
burden
level
of
situation,
and
we
also
have
a
deficit
at
the
8200
ami
level,
although,
as
you'll
see
in
later
slides
the
market's
doing
a
better
job
of
addressing
those.
C
C
C
You
know
the
whole
disconnect
of
the
live
work
situation
is
allowing
people
to
earn
wages
in
areas
that
pay
a
lot
higher
and
live
in
a
place
like
boise,
where
housing
is
relatively
lower
compared
to
other
major
u.s
cities,
particularly
on
the
west,
so
we're
seeing
some
some
interesting
things
there.
Despite
our
you
know,
we
said
we
need
a
thousand
a
year,
we're
getting
well
over
that
and
it's
still
not
really
making
a
dent.
C
So
the
other
part
of
that
story
is
what
are
we
doing
on
the
income
restricted
housing
side?
You
know
many
of
you
have
seen
these
projects
worked.
I
mean
I've
personally
brought
at
least
three
of
these
to
you
over
the
last
year
and
a
half.
C
So
so
we
are
making
some
some
progress
on
the
income
restricted
housing
front.
Some
of
these
are
city-led
or
city
funded.
Some
of
these
are
with
partners
in
the
community
like
el
ada.
C
Some
are
actually
city
properties
that
we
are
rehabbing
with
funding
continued
funding
from
hud,
so
you
know,
we've
we've
been
able
to
get
about
200,
and
I
would
say
this
is
over
the
last
two
years,
roughly
still
not
really
getting
to
that
minimum
of
300
new
that
we
need
or
333
new
that
we
need
each
year.
So,
although
overall
housing
is
growing,
we
haven't
seen
a
huge
jump
on
this
side.
C
Back
to
my
earlier
comment
about
the
market,
addressing
a
lot
of
the
80
am
I
and
and
above
you
know,
market
analysis
we
did
in
2019
is
actually
demonstrating
that
you
know
we
are
seeing
unifor
unit
affordability
happening
at
80.
Am
I
and
above,
but
the
private
market
is
not
doing
much
for
below
80
ami.
C
For
obvious
reasons
I
mean
you
know,
just
the
revenue
lost
on
creating
those
units
without
some
dedicated
funding,
sources
or
other
other
public
intervention
really
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
for
most
most
people
engaged
in
development
who
are
trying
to
earn
money.
So
that's
where
the
grower
housing
program
is
stepping
in
the
four
major
priorities
of
this
program.
C
First
is
establishing
a
land
trust,
ongoing
public
and
private
funding,
cooperation
between
the
city
and
private
partners,
as
well
as
other
public
partners
like
ccdc,
ihfa
and
other
groups
like
that
maximizing
land
use
allowances,
and
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through
these
a
little
bit
more
so
that
you
can
kind
of
see
some
of
the
projects
and
where
they
that
you've
seen
and
where
they
align
according
to
these
strategies
and
then
finally
expanding
the
housing
incentive
which
we
ran
in
the
downtown
roughly
from
2016
to
2018..
C
You
know,
I
think
in
general,
it's
considered
a
success,
but
we've
retooled
that
program
pretty
significantly
and
taken
a
much
deeper
dive
or
closer
look
at
how
we
can
promote
more
affordability.
So
in
terms
of
the
land
trust.
This
is
a
project
that
came
before
you
not
too
long
ago,
franklin
and
orchard.
This
is
kind
of
our
first
land
trust
project,
200
plus
units.
The
commercial
square
footage,
I
think,
is
actually
greater
than
5
000.
C
Last
time
I
checked,
80
of
these
units
will
be
at
60
percent,
ami
or
below,
which
is
a
a
big
win
for
for
the
community
and
for
the
city's
efforts
to
address
affordability
and
the
way
this
works
is
that
we
retain
ownership
of
the
land
lease
the
land
to
a
developer,
to
improve
with
what
you
see
here
and
you
know,
essentially,
they
generate
revenue
off
of
those
improvements
and
at
the
end
of
50
years,
we
figure
out
if
we
re-up
for
that
partnership
or
if
you
know
other
options
exist,
but
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
success
with
this,
we
actually
just
purchased
another
property
on
state
street.
C
Earlier
last
week
we
completed
the
sale
or
the
purchase
of
the
former
smokey
davis
site,
which
is
at
arthur
and
state
street.
So
that
will
be
the
next
property
that
we
put
through
a
process
similar
like
this
and
given
what
we
want
out
of
that
property
you're
likely
to
see
some
entitlement
needed
to
get
that
done
and
I'll
be
speaking
to
you
again
when
that
happens,
so
public
and
private
funding,
as
I
mentioned
before,
you
know,
working
with
both
private
firms,
as
well
as
our
public
partners.
C
Here's
three
that
have
recently
occurred
adair
manor.
This
is
over
in
the
main
fairview
area
newpath,
which
is
a
permanent
supportive
housing
project,
also
in
the
maine
and
fairview
area,
and
then
balor
point
which
is
on
state
street
and
again,
another
permanent
supportive
housing
project.
This
one's
specifically
focused
on
the
housing
of
homeless
veterans.
C
So
the
third
strategy
maximizing
land
use
allowances,
so
things
that
you've
seen
along
those
lines,
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
code
update
and
I'm
again
I
if
mil
were
here.
I
think
he
was
a
part
of
that
one,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
any
of
our
commissioners
were
on
the
board
when
that
one
came
through,
but
that
was
essentially
making
it
easier
to
develop
adus
by
increasing
allowed
size
and
the
number
of
bedrooms
that
could
be
included,
as
well
as
reducing
some
of
the
parking
standards.
C
We're
currently
engaged
in
a
zoning
code,
rewrite
which
is
a
long
term
project
that
probably
a
year
to
a
year
and
a
half
at
least
before
we
see
anything
in
front
of
you.
I
would
imagine
that
timeline
could
change.
It's
constantly
changing.
We've
been
thinking
about
this
rewrite
for
over
a
year,
at
least
at
this
point,
and
then
finally,
the
housing
bonus
ordinance,
which
all
of
you
were
a
part
of
gosh,
like
I
said
roughly
a
month
ago,
so
those
all
fit
within
the
grower,
housing
universe
and
then.
C
Finally,
as
I
mentioned
before,
expanding
the
housing
incentives,
so
we've
been
reworking
what
that
structure
is
going
to
look
like
in
2016
to
2018.
It
was
a
thousand
for
a
traditional
unit
and
2000
for
an
affordable
unit,
as
you
can
see
over
here
on,
the
left.
We've
significantly
increased
the
amount
of
money
per
unit
with
the
requirement
that
they
provide
it
at
an
ami
level,
that's
desperately
needed
in
the
community.
C
C
I
have
learned
a
lot
about
pro
formas
and
how
all
this
works
from
a
revenue
standpoint,
and
I'm
I'm.
You
know
it's
impressive.
What
what
needs
to
go
into
that,
and
I
think
this
is
you
know.
Thankfully,
we
have
the
support
of
council
to
kind
of
pivot
on
this
after
three
or
six
months.
If
we
discover
you
know,
we
need
to
be
targeting
other
area
meeting
incomes
or
working
on
these
terms
of
affordability.
C
So
it's
a
very
fluid
program
that
way,
but
we're
pretty
excited
to
get
it
launched.
It's
actually
going
on
our
website
here
either.
Today
or
tomorrow
and
we'll
start
fielding
applications
in
terms
of
what
those
applications
look
like.
There's
eligibility
criteria,
centered
around
location,
neighborhood
compatibility,
that's
where
png
could
likely
come
in
in
terms
of
determining
what
is
actually
compatible
and
then
obviously
level.
C
Affordability
is
one
of
the
those
are
the
three
criteria
you
need
to
even
submit
an
application,
and
then
we
score
according
to
project
location,
the
diversity
within
the
project,
any
adaptive,
reuse,
placemaking
and
amenities,
so
the
overall
quality
of
the
design
of
the
project.
How
parking
is
handled?
These
last
three
are
really
focused
on
kind
of
the
what
our
climate
team
has
been
doing
at
the
city,
but
green
construction
practices,
energy
and
in
general
sustainability.
C
It's
a
rolling
acceptance
for
these
applications,
we'll
be
using
a
cross,
departmental
team
to
score
all
of
those
and
review
them
and
make
recommendations
to
city
council
to
fund
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
it's
a
quarterly
update
process
with
city
council
to
make
sure
that
the
program
is
kind
of
hitting
the
targets
that
we
were
aiming
for.
C
So,
in
conclusion,
that's
that's
grower
housing
and
I
wanted
to
give
you
guys
a
some
time
to
ask
questions
or
go
over
anything
that
didn't
make
sense.
So
thank
you.
E
Hey
leon:
yes,
how
with
the
natural
disasters
in
california
and
other
weather
events,
and
then
the
pandemic,
causing
a
lot
of
need
for
rapid
re-housing
around
the
country?
Have
we
incorporated
any
of
that
kind
of
thinking
into
our
planning.
C
We're
going
to
use
robert
rules
here
right,
even
though
it's
pre-six
o'clock,
you
guys
know
that
I'm
the
worst
at
that.
So
I
will
do
my
best
chairman
commissioner
blanchard
I
I
would
say
that
a
rapid
re-housing
project
could
be
funded
through
that
program,
but
it's
not
really
the
the
main
target.
C
Interestingly
enough,
we're
going
through
a
study
right
now
with
a
national
firm
csh,
which
I
believe
is
community
supportive
housing
is
the
firm
and
a
local
firm
egg
new
back
to
get
a
much
better
understanding
of
the
permanent
supportive
housing
need
in
our
community
and
kind
of
what
our
targets
should
be.
So
I
could,
I
could
see
us
again
pivoting
some
of
these
funds
or
some
of
these
efforts
towards
that
in
the
event
that
the
findings
from
the
studies
say
it's
needed,
I
mean.
Obviously
there
are
clear.
C
Rapid
re-housing
needs
in
our
community
right
now
I
mean
we're,
and
I
know
that
indie
dwell
has
done
some
great
things
in
that
regard
in
other
communities,
particularly
in
the
west.
So
but
right
now,
I
would
say
it
could
qualify,
but
it's
not
probably
the
main
focus
of
the
program.
E
And
that
was
not
meant
to
be
a
plug
for
our
company
by
any
means
just
we.
We
follow
that
market
closely
and
it's
it's
just
yeah,
there's
so
many
different
applications
that
we're
seeing
out
there.
So
I
just
wondered
if
it
was
if
it
was,
if
that
was
a
gap
in
our
planning
or
if
it's,
if
something
that's
been
contemplated
already.
So
it's
just
we're
seeing
a
ton
of
that.
F
E
B
Leon
thanks
for
the
update,
appreciate
it
got
some
good
work
going
on
there.
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
it
seems
to
me
that
it's
almost
like
it's
a
two-prong
problem
right,
there's
a
lack
of
housing,
but
then,
as
you
mentioned
earlier,
you
know
what
wage
stagnation
is
an
issue,
and
you
know
I
think,
we're
making
some
progress
on
the
housing
side
of
things.
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
some,
what
else
is
happening
on
the
other
side
of
the
discussion
right
and
is
there
a
coordination
happening
with?
B
C
Yeah,
madam
chair,
commissioner
shafer,
I
personally
haven't
been
engaged
in
the
wage
discussions,
but
it
is,
we
understand
the
relationship,
the
you
know,
the
unbreakable
relationship
between
that.
I
I'm
not
sure
you
know
we
have
ann
griese
meyer
in
the
mayor's
office,
who
is
kind
of
keeping
her
eye
on
the
state
capital,
and
you
know
any
any
bills
that
come
forth.
That
would
address
that
she's
going
to
be
a
part
of
I
mean,
I
think
it's
clearly
needed
here,
and
I
mean
I'm
only
I'm
speaking
from
a
personal
perspective
here.
C
It's
just
what
we've
seen
from
again
the
break
of
the
live
work
like
you.
Could
you
don't
need
to
live
where
you
work
anymore?
I
think
it's
I'm
concerned
it
could
exacerbate
the
boise
situation
as
a
result
of
that
and
I
think
it
maybe
it's
even
started
to
happen
a
little
bit.
So
I
I
know
that
we
have
folks
focused
on
that.
I
am
personally
not
engaged
in
that,
but
I
can't
talk
about
housing
without
talking
about
what
people
make.
C
So
I
get
pulled
into
those
conversations
a
lot
and-
and
I
hope
that
we
can
make
some
progress
there.
I
mean
from
the
national
perspective,
I
can't
remember
the
number
of
states
that
all
just
raised
their
minimum
wage,
but
I
mean
it's
a
national
conversation
as
well
and
sadly,
idaho
has
not
and,
like
I
said
almost
11
years.
B
C
I'd
be
happy
to
share
it
yeah
and
there's
a
lot
on
our
website
now,
but
again,
you're
going
to
see
likely
a
lot
of
entitlement
stuff
for
projects
seeking
housing,
incentive,
funding,
land
trust
projects,
a
lot
of
these
partnership
projects,
so
grower
housing
will
be
present
at
a
lot
of
pnz
stuff
moving
forward,
just
as
a
result
of
you
know
needing
to
get
those
entitlements
through,
but
yeah.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you
guys
are
doing.
C
I
mean
I
had
the
real
privilege
of
bringing
a
lot
of
housing
projects
in
front
of
you
over
the
years
and
we
have
a
pretty
sophisticated
commission.
So
thank
you
for
all
your
time
and
effort.
A
A
All
right,
so
we
have
minutes
december
minutes
for
the
consent
agenda
and
then
new
business
we've
got
a
time.
Extension
on
maple
grove,
that's
not
typically
a
hearing
where
we
ask
anyone
if
you're
here
or
anything
like
that.
So
that
should
be
just
on
consent.
Okay
and
that's
that's
it
for
consent.
I
think
tonight
number
one
cer,
2015
ped
2042
cba
2064
in
sub
2051
and
58,
we're
all
on
33rd
street
near
forsythian
hill
road,
quite
the
combo
packet
there,
but
we
do
have
two
people
that
have
signed
up.
A
G
Okay,
I'll
just
I'll
just
ask
since
there's
nobody
here
in
person
right
now,
I'll
just
ask
everybody
to
virtually
raise
their
hand
online
when
they
want
to
speak
on
an
item
and
we
can
cross
their
name
off
as
they
go
if
they,
if
we
have
them
also
on
the
sign
up
list,
I
can
do
a
kind
of
last
call.
A
A
A
A
It's
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
drive
up
window
with
a
financial
institution.
We
are
recommending
approval.
I
believe
the
applicant
was
opposed
to
conditions,
so
we
don't
have
anyone
signed
up
to
speak
yet,
but
that
should
maybe
be
a
short
one
and
then
number
five
cp
20-44
and
cva
20-63
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
outdoor
storage
on
15
acres
on
victory
road.
A
We
are
recommending
approval.
There
was
some
opposition
with
a
few
people
signing
up
last
month,
so
we
will
hear
that
one
as
well.
A
H
G
If
I
forget,
if
anybody
online
wants
to
shoot
me,
a
chat
saying
if
you
need
a
break
happy
to
oblige
that.
E
Oh,
I
hate
to
bring
this
up,
but
poor
commissioner
lonnie
passed
about
a
couple
weeks
after
she
appeared.
A
A
A
Everyone
from
the
public
entering
the
hearing
has
automatically
been
muted
and
cannot
speak
as
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion,
you'll
be
called
upon
and
unmuted
there
is
a
chat
function
in
zoom.
This
is
not
part
of
the
record
and
should
only
be
used
if
technical
difficulties
arise.
The
chat
function
isn't
available
for
you.
You
can
email,
zoninginfo
cityofboise.org
with
any
technical
issues.
A
After
that,
we
proceed
to
public
testimony,
starting
with
those
who
are
in
person,
then,
who
have
signed
up
on
the
online
sign
up
sheet
in
advance,
then
anyone
else
who
raises
their
hand
virtually
if
you
are
attending
through
your
telephone
tonight,
you
can
type
in
star
9.
To
raise
your
hand,
each
member
of
the
public
is
allowed
up
to
3
minutes
for
testimony.
A
G
G
Any
decision
made
tonight
may
be
appealed
to
the
city
council,
provided
that
the
appeal
is
filed
within
10
days
of
this
hearing.
In
order
to
file
an
appeal
you
must
have
given
written
or
oral
testimony
at
tonight's
meeting.
So
that's
why
it's
important
that
you
give
your
name
and
address
when
you
testify
tonight.
We
utilize
a
consent
agenda.
This
means
that
if
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report
and
if
there's
no
public
opposition,
the
item
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda.
G
All
items
that
are
placed
on
the
consent
agenda
are
approved
with
one
motion.
Without
further
public
comment
for
items
not
on
the
consent
agenda,
we
will
hold
a
full
public
hearing
and
the
order
just
detailed
a
few
minutes
ago
with
staff,
applicant
neighborhood
association
and
then
the
public
testimony.
G
H
G
Thank
you
so,
first
without
objection,
I
will
place
the
minutes
from
december
7th
2020
and
december
14
2020
on
the
consent
agenda,
and
then
the
only
item
actually
that
we
have
otherwise
for
the
consent
agenda
is
that
we
have
a
request
to
defer
item
a
to
january
7th
2023.
G
G
I'm
sorry
a
time
extension
excuse
me:
we've
requested
for
a
time
extension
until
january,
7
2023,
so
we
will
place
item
a
on
the
consent
agenda
as
well.
G
Second,
second
from
commissioner
squires
and
will
the
clerk
please
call
the
vote.
B
J
G
Thank
you.
So
we
will
start
with
item
number
one.
This
is
car
20-15
for
river
ridge
engineering
company.
This
is
an
item
deferred
from
december
14
2020
at
3435,
north
33rd
street.
It's
a
rezone
of
one
acre
from
r1c
to
r1m
also
includes
pud2042
and
cva
20-64
conditional
use,
permit
and
suv,
20-51
and
suv
20-58
for
a
preliminary
plot
for
a
residential
subdivision
and
we'll
start
with
staff,
and
I
think
you're
up
mr
holmes.
Please.
K
This
item
before
you
was
a
request
for
the
rezone
of
approximately
one
acre
from
an
r1c
single-family
residential
zoning
to
an
r1
md
town
lot,
with
design
review.
Also
included,
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development
comprised
of
14
townhomes,
a
perimeter
setback
variants,
a
preliminary
plot
and
a
final
plaque
for
the
first
phase
of
the
development
property
shown
here
in
red.
It's
located
on
the
corner,
forsythia
and
33rd
street,
just
southeast
from
the
hill
and
36th
street
near
the
activity
center.
K
The
subject
property
has
a
compact
land
use
designation
and
an
existing
r1c
zoning
is
shown
here.
Compact
land
use
designation
does
allow
for
a
variety
of
zones,
including
the
requested
r1m
zone
residential
uses
surround
the
property
with
a
mixture
of
densities,
including
single
family
homes,
duplexes
triplexes
and
multi-family
homes
directly
adjacent
to
the
subject.
K
K
The
planned
town
home
development
is
the
range
is
shown
here
with
the
majority
of
homes
fronting
on
either
forsythia
or
33rd
street.
The
density
of
the
development
at
approximately
16
units
per
acre
is
just
under
the
limit
of
the
proposed
r1m
zone.
Each
home
is
proposed
to
have
two-car
garage
with
seven
guest
park,
spaces
on-site
and
additional
on-street
parking,
15
and
12
foot
side,
yard
setbacks,
landscape
with
trees
and
a
six
foot
solid
wood
fence
buffer,
the
adjacent
single
family
and
multi-family
properties.
K
The
approximately
1900
square
foot
townhomes
are
designed
with
two
stories
of
living
space
and
a
rooftop
deck.
The
covered
access
stairwell
to
the
deck
is
under
the
35
foot
height
limit
of
both
the
proposed
r1md
zone
and
the
adjacent
r1c
zones.
A
further
design
review
approval
would
be
required
to
ensure
compliance
with
the
city's
design
standards.
The
planning
team
did
receive
a
number
of
comments
which
were
included
in
last
month's
fleet
correspondence
packet.
K
In
conclusion,
as
detailed
in
the
project
report
and
highlighted
in
this
presentation,
planning
team
finds
that
the
applicant's
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
standards
of
approval,
including
the
development
code,
blueprint,
boise
and
the
requirements
of
all
reviewing
agencies
and
departments.
As
such,
the
planning
team
is
recommending
approval
of
the
applications
with
conditions
for
beauties
and
the
associated
variants.
The
commission
is
the
decision-making
body
and
for
the
re-zoning
subdivisions
it
is
the
recommending
body
for
city
council.
Thanks,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
G
Thank
you,
mr
holmes,
and
we'll
next
move
on
to
here
from
the
applicant.
So
that's
mr
wenzel
and
we'll
start
with
10
minutes.
Please.
D
Yup,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
great?
My
name
is
brian
wenzel
with
pivot
north
design,
and
my
address
is
2314
north
34th
street
in
boise
83703,
and
I
think
I
have
a
quick
presentation
to
show
you
if
that
would
be.
Okay
share.
My
screen,
hello,
mr
helms,
did
a
great
job.
I
trust
you
all
could
see
this.
G
D
Great
so,
as
mr
holm
said,
the
site
is
located
at
33rd
and
forsythia
in
the
sunset
district
of
boise
on
the
north
end,
and
this
aerial
photo
is
a
little
outdated.
Currently,
there's
purchasing
a
place
to
the
north
of
us,
so
I
just
threw
in
the
plots
there
to
show.
You
know
some
of
the
adjacent
context
that
that
kevin
had
spoken
about
this.
D
Here
you
can
see
the
site
and
we
we've
chosen
to
rezone
to
a
a
density
that
we
feel
is
appropriate.
D
We
want
to
introduce
homes
which
we
understand
as
a
desire
of
the
city,
but
also
be
sympathetic
about
how
we
do
so
so
we've
chosen
to
broke
our
break
our
for
sale,
town
homes
into
clusters
of
three
or
four
and
oriented
them
facing
the
streets
where,
if
at
all
possible,
that
means
the
seven
on
forsythia
and
the
four
on
33rd
to
the
east
really
give
a
lot
of
eyes
on
the
street.
D
Activate
the
ground
level
help
give
a
sense
of
ownership
to
the
community
and
where
this,
where
the
units
couldn't
be
located
on
the
street
as
dry,
violence,
was
needed
to
get
in
and
access
the
site.
There
are
three
homes
clustered
in
a
building
on
recreational
open
space,
which
is
thoughtfully
located
to
the
south
for
prime
sun
exposure,
just
kind
of
enumerated
some
of
the
goals
that
we're
trying
to
achieve,
such
as
a
mix
of
uses,
a
variety
of
housing
types.
I
think
the
density
was
covered.
D
We're
also
looking
at
some
infill
design
principles.
You
know
transitions
and
building
height
and
mass
and
feel
this
is
an
appropriate
scale.
Transition
between
the
multi-family,
more
dense
product
to
the
southwest
and
some
of
the
newer
homes
to
the
north,
the
existing
homes
to
the
east
and
we're
trying
to
be
thoughtful
about
garage
placement
and
design
by
locating
efficient,
double
loaded,
dry,
vials
and
front
doors
on
the
perimeter.
D
The
unit
layouts
themselves
are
three
excuse
me:
three
bedroom
two
and
a
half
bath
on
the
ground
level
as
a
living,
dining
kitchen,
a
two
guar
two
car
garage
servicing
the
units
for
private
garages
located
behind
the
unit.
Upstairs
there
are
three
bedrooms
and
two
bathrooms,
and
then
the
stair
continues
up
to
a
roof
deck,
which
we
feel
is
a
really
special
amenity
for
the
north.
D
End
you'll,
see
here
on
the
in
the
gray,
is
a
stoop
which
we're
trying
to
give
that
north
end
feel
by
elevating
up
the
units,
an
internal
stare
to
get
from
the
garage
upstairs
to
the
living
of
a
few,
a
few
stairs
and
we're
really
trying
to
embrace.
You
know
some
potential
concerns
of
our
neighbors
about
how
we
incorporate
with
the
neighborhood.
So
above
you
can
see
the
existing
photo
of
the
site,
fences
and
a
little
bit
of
disrepair.
D
But
you
know
that's
the
historic
nature
of
some
of
the
properties,
but
we're
trying
to
really
embrace
the
corner
and
the
architectural
style
we've
chosen
is
a
a
contemporary
interpretation
of
a
north
end.
Aesthetic
so
trying
to
break
down
the
elevations
horizontally
and
vertically
use
a
lot
of
high
quality
materials,
really
create
a
sense
of
permanence
and
make
it
feel
contemporary,
but
also
timeless.
I
guess-
and
not
just
in
the
in
the
current
moment.
So
we
have
a
cool
contemporary
palette.
D
Warm
accents,
such
as
wood,
siding
and
brick
and
generous
landscaping
on
the
perimeter,
and
we've
studied
a
lot
about
how
our
fits
into
the
context,
such
as
you
know,
for
city
a
place
across
the
street
pretty
new,
but
we're
trying
to
use
some
of
the
similar
palette,
exterior
plaster
vertical
siding,
enhanced
materials
at
the
base
in
a
variety
of
roof
forms
of
gables
and
hip
roots.
To
further
articulate
the
elevations.
D
Here's
a
view
from
the
neighbors
across
the
street.
We're
trying
to
break
the
buildings
down
both
in
color
pallet,
to
break
down
the
scale,
but
then
literally
with
gaps,
to
give
more
outside
corner
windows
and
make
the
buildings
feel
like
they're,
not
one
monotonous,
long
elevation
and
here's
a
view
looking
from
the
other
side
of
forsythia
and
how
we've
articulated
a
four-sided
architecture
with
high
quality,
permanent
materials.
D
The
aerial
photos-
not
many
people-
are
going
to
perceive
it
like
this,
but
wanted
to
kind
of
explain
the
open
space.
Here
you
know,
generously,
consolidating
all
the
open
spaces
and
amenity
for
the
project
and
internal
the
site.
We
have
seven
guest
parking,
only
two
are
required
so
between
the
28
on-site
garages
and
the
seven
guest
parking
five
addition
to
the
two
that's
required.
We
feel
there's
generous
parking
and
won't
have
to
rely
on
on
street
parking.
D
Here's
a
view
from
the
northeast
and
some
other
ground-level
perspectives
that
were
providing
our
proposal
just
kind
of
showing
some
of
the
street
conditions
the
eyes
on
the
street,
the
stoops.
How
people
who
live
here
could
really
make
this
a
sense
of
community,
and
you
can
see
the
open
space
on
the
top
right.
D
I
believe
that
is
the
the
slides
that
I
wanted
to
go
through.
We
have
some
elevations
as
well.
Actually
sorry
I'll,
we
don't
have
elevations,
but
I
will
just
close
in
closing
just
kind
of
talk
about
some
of
the
conditions
that
we
understand.
There
are
one
of
them,
which
is
site
access
across
the
site,
we'd
like
to
appropriate.
D
To
mention
now
we'd
like
to
request
that
that
not
be
a
condition
only
because
we
can't
control
what
will
happen
in
the
future,
we're
willing
to
work
with
future
developers,
but
it's
hard
to
know
that
one
or
two
parcels
getting
bought
on
opposite
side
of
us
and
continuing
the
internal
drive
isle
seems
like
that,
would
encumber
our
site
and
make
a
psychological
hindrance
to
some
of
the
buyers,
and
if
a
big
enough
parcel
were
consolidated
to
have
a
comparable
project
to
our
south,
for
instance,
they
would
probably
be
required
to
have
their
own
site
access.
D
So
I'd
like
to
ask
for
some
relief
there.
I
think
it
was
condition
five
and
condition.
Two
was
activating
the
the
street
elevation
for
33rd
on
the
side
of
the
garage.
D
You
could
see
on
the
right
of
the
screen,
but
we've
chosen
to
give
them
plenty
of
relief
turn
our
stair
have
a
two-story
element
adjacent
to
them
and
really
try
to
be
as
good
a
neighbor
as
we
can
in
doing
so,
we
have
to
have
a
some
relief
to
our
garage
setback
and
we
tried
to
really
think
about
this
as
four-sided
architecture
with
simple
cables
and
consistent
massing,
and
ask
that
you
look
at
our
windows
and
way,
we've
broken
down
our
massing
and
see
that
it's
not
just
a
flat
elevation.
G
Thank
you,
mr
wenzel.
So
next
we
would
move
to
the
sunset
neighborhood
association,
but
I'm
not
sure
we
have
anybody
representing
do
we
have
somebody
on
the
line
representing
the
sunset
neighborhood
association
tonight.
L
K
Yeah
I'm
adam
chair
commissioners.
Actually
I
can
share
my
screen.
I
have
them
if
we'd,
all
just
wanna,
take
a
look
at
them.
If
that
would
help
you,
commissioner,
squires,
give
me
one
second
here.
K
So
I
believe
the
conditions
that
the
applicant
was
specifically
talking
about
was
so
this
number
five,
which
was
a
condition
to
record
across
access
easement
along
basically
the
terminus
of
both
of
those
dry
vials.
Just
in
case
the
neighboring
properties
were
to
redevelop
in
the
future.
They
would
have
that
option
to
utilize
those
dry
bios
and
then
the
condition
number
two,
which
was
just
to
more
work
with
the
design
review
team
to
add
some
design
elements
to
that
side.
M
M
I
thought
I
saw
maybe
a
parking
area,
and
but
I
was
a
little
confused
about
this.
K
Sure
adam
sheriff,
commissioner
from
frock.
Hopefully
you
can
see
this
slide
here
and
so
this
property
to
the
southwest
all
along.
Let's
say
the
34th
is
a
multi-family
development
from
the
70s
or
so
that
has
a
comparable
density
of
16
dawn
units
per
acre.
M
K
Sure-
and
you
know
madam
chair
commissioner
friend
frock
this-
this
condition
is
usually
it's
kind
of
a
standard
condition.
If
you
will
for
a
lot
of
these
developments
that
have
dry
vials,
that
terminate
near
a
property
line
and
really
the
intent
is
so
that
in
the
future
should
let's
say
some
of
the
neighboring
properties
redevelop.
B
Thanks
a
couple
questions
for
staff,
I'm
sorry
kevin,
I'm
flying
back
through
the
presentation
on
the
zone
on
the
re-zone
question.
You
know
the
surrounding
area,
the
immediate
properties
all
around
are
r1c
were
those
multi-family
parcels
you
know
to
the
west
and
southwest:
were
they
always
r1c
at
the
time
they
were
permitted.
K
K
Schaefer,
it
appears
so
like
I
said
they
were
built
kind
of
in
the
mid
70s
and
and
really
we
don't
have
any
planning
records
related
to
how
they
came
about.
But
as
historically
it
does
look
like
they
have
always
been
r1c.
B
Okay,
so
follow
up
on
that.
So
then,
obviously
those
are
larger
parcels,
which
is
therefore
how
we're
getting
the
density
that
we
see
in
those
projects
correct
there
wasn't.
I
guess
I
guess
my
question
is
you
know
this
would
be
the
only
non-r1c
parcel
in
the
vicinity
and
I'm
just
curious
about
the
history.
O
K
Yeah,
madam
chair,
commissioner
schaefer,
you
are
correct.
This
would
be,
but
all
the
surrounding
properties
are
r1c,
so
this
would
be
the
exception
there.
I
think
if,
if
we
were
to
see
these
types
of
multi-family
developments
that
are
existing
come
in
today,
though
they
would
be
in
a
different
zoning
category
than
r1c
just
kind
of
the
historical
nature
of
how
they've
developed.
That's
not
what
we
see
today.
B
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
The
madam
chair,
follow
up.
B
Kevin
and
then,
if
you
would
please
just
walk
us
through
the
variance
request,
I'm
not
quite
sure
I
followed
the
logic
on
the
hardship
discussion
within
our
packet.
Can
you
just
walk
us
through
that
that
issue.
K
But
I'm
sure
commissioner
schaefer
yeah
I'd
be
happy
to,
and
hopefully
this
slide
kind
of
helps
illustrate
it.
So,
with
this,
with
this
application,
there
was
a
requirement
to
dedicate
a
little
bit
of
additional
right-of-way
along
33rd,
which
so,
if
you
kind
of
look
at
this
side
here
with
the
built
environment,
the
property
line
is
about
10
feet
back
from
the
edge
of
curb.
K
So
when
you
add
that
additional
20
foot
street
side
setback
for
parking
that
the
r1m
zoning
district
requires
really
you're
looking
at
a
the
garage
needing
to
be,
if
we
were
following
code,
approximately
29
feet
back
from
the
the
driveway
turn
in
which
far
exceeds
even
you
know
the
surrounding
r1c
zoning
district,
where
you're
looking
at
you
know
a
15
foot
step
back
for
side
loaded
garage,
which
this
is
kind
of,
is.
K
What
it
is,
I
think,
not
to
guess
what
our
you
know.
Historical
predecessors
were
attempting
to
do
with
the
r1m
zoning,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
the
the
20
foot
side
setback.
There
was
more
pointing
towards
detached
garages,
which
we
see
a
lot
of
times
the
town
homes
rather
than
these
attached,
which
kind
of
matches
up
with
the
living
space.
When.
H
B
It
does
in
just
a
quick
follow-up
on
that
then,
and
then,
in
conjunction
with
this,
if
I
remember
correctly
to
the
they've
kind
of
increased
the
buffer
along
the
properties
to
the
west.
At
the
same
time,
right
we've,
we've
we've
mostly,
I
believe,
double
the
buffer
on
that
west
side
is
that
right
or
the
setback.
K
On
that
west
side,
yeah,
madam
sure,
commissioner
schaefer
you're,
correct
yeah,
so
along
the
the
west
side,
we're
looking
at
a,
I
believe,
a
12-foot
setback
where
really
they
technically
would
only
require
a
five-foot,
typically
with
an
r1m
zone
which
also
matches
you
know
the
r1c
zoning.
So
you
have
side
side
yard,
like
setbacks,
but
in
this
case
yeah
it's
almost
tripled.
K
P
Appreciate
more
follow-up
questions,
so,
if
that
multi-family
that
we're
seeing
right
there,
where
your
cursor
just
was,
is
that
that's
three
stories
or
is
it
two
stories?
It's
kind
of
hard
to
tell.
G
Okay,
so
next
we
will
actually
move
on
to
our
public
testimony.
So
if
you're
interested
in
testifying
on
this
item
tonight,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand
great
and
we'll
just
kind
of
start
working
our
way
down
the
list,
we'll
start
with
andrew
peterson,
and
please
just
give
us
a
moment.
While
we
switch
you
over
to
a
panelist
andrew,
please
when
you're
ready
start
with
your
name
and
address
and
you'll
have
three
minutes
once
you.
G
F
F
Okay,
perfect
thanks
for
the
chance
to
speak,
my
wife
and
I
live
in
the
home.
That's
directly
east
of
the
of
this
lot
that
we're
talking
about.
F
F
F
If,
if
you
look
at
that
aerial
view-
and
you
see
how
far
away
the
existing
two-story
apartments
are
they're
about
five
times
as
far
away
as
these
buildings
and
and
those
existing
ones
are
only
two
stories,
this
is
right
next
to
our
fence
and
there's
three
stories
with
the
with
the
deck
on
top,
we
feel
when
people
are
up
on
these
decks
and
and
looking
down
on
all
the
neighbors
that
that's
an
invasion
of
our
privacy.
F
I've
also,
if,
if
you
have
a
chance
to
look
through
the
slides,
I
made
a
little
bit
of
a
slide
presentation
that
shows
the
existing
character
of
the
neighborhood.
I
also
went
to
some
areas
where
there
were
some
recently
developed
areas
like
this
and
and
those
show
the
character,
the
homes
that
are
typical
in
the
north
end
for
those
kinds
of
of
developments.
This
is
way
out
of
character
for
what
you
see
in
the
north
end.
F
I
disagree
that
that
this
kind
of
development
matches
the
north
end
or
is
anyway
reflective
of
the
north
end.
So
we
object
to
the
traffic.
We
object
to
the
the
amount
of
of
people
that
are
are
towering
over
us.
It's
just
an
intrusive
thing,
that's
out
of
character
for
the
north
end,
and
we
hope
that
you
would
not
approve
this.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
mr
peterson.
Next
we'll
hear
from
greg
carabresi,
please
start
with
your
name
and
address.
I
went
to
amir
go
ahead.
Q
Perfect
three
three
3360
west
forsythia
drive
83703.
Q
I
am
across
from
this
proposed
project
directly
across
from
the
proposed
project,
where
the
seven
units
will
be.
I
also
have
severe
concerns
with
two
primary
topics:
one
being
privacy
and
another
one
being
public
parking,
or
at
least
parking
in
general.
Q
What
you're,
not
thinking
of
and
what
you
everyone
needs
to
think
of,
is
how
many
cars
will
be
able
to
fit
in
those
garages
if
you
think
about
large
suvs,
large
trucks,
large
vans,
all
the
call
it
sporting
equipment,
bikes,
kayaks,
just
overall
sporting
gear
that
people
usually
put
in
their
garage
well,
those
seven
spots
will
be
100
filled
all
the
time
and
that
will
put
overflow
on
the
streets
of
forsythia
and
33rd.
Q
So
that
also
provides
a
hazard
for
children
as
well
as
people
walking
their
dogs,
but
mostly
children.
You
know
biking
you're,
not
going
to
be
able
to
pull
out
of
your
driveway.
While
you
can
not
see
cars
coming
down,
forsythia
and
forsythia
is
a
very
busy
street.
I
will
tell
you
that
from
hill
through
forsythia
to
36th
very
busy,
the
other
piece
I
will
mention
is
again
back
to
the
privacy
piece.
Q
There
is
no
project
in
the
north
end
that
has
rooftop
decks
and,
if
you
think
about,
when
you
go
out
in
a
balcony,
whether
it
be
at
a
rental
place,
a
beach
or
maybe
sun
valley.
The
first
thing
you
do
is
look
look
around
when
these
people
go
on
their
decks.
The
first
thing
they're
going
to
do,
is
look
down
and
look
into
windows.
Look
into
backyards.
Q
Q
G
Thank
you,
mr
care,
breeze.
Next
we'll
hear
from
esther
seiha
and
just
give
us
a
moment.
While
we
switch
you
over
and
then
ms
seja,
please
start
with
your
name
and
address
when
you're
ready
just
give
us
a
moment.
Please.
R
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,
okay,
my
name
is
esther
seha
and
I
reside
at
3901
north
cambria
way,
boise
83703,
so
growth,
I
know,
is
inevitable.
R
You
know
we
had
those
18
19
houses
to
the
north
of
this
proposal
that
were
built
within
the
last
several
years
and
some
residents
and
neighbors
had
concerns
about
those
as
well
on
this
particular
project.
My
only
comment
is
that
third
floor,
the
development
should
align
with
the
existing
housing
in
that
area.
R
So
I
think
that
third
rooftop
floor
is
it's
not.
It
doesn't
align
with
the
neighborhood,
so
I'd
ask
that
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
reconsider
that
component
of
of
the
development.
Thank
you.
G
G
Okay,
one
more
moment:
okay,
seeing
none
we'll
next
move
on
to
a
rebuttal
from
the
applicant,
so
we'll
give
five
minutes
again
to
mr
wenzel.
Please
start
again
with
your
name,
mr
wenzel,
when
you're
ready.
G
D
Perfect
brian
wenzel,
the
applicant
again
2314
north
34th
street
in
boise,
and
understand
the
concerns
appreciate
the
input
from
the
neighbors.
One
thing
I
will
say
is
we
have
gone
to
the
neighborhood
meetings
a
few
times
and
really
are
interested
in
getting
the
feedback
and
embracing
it,
and
we've
made
significant
changes,
as
some
folks
will
know,
and
our
development
team
knows,
we've
really
tried
to
embrace
their
comments
and
and
hear
them
and-
and
I
personally
live
on
34th
street,
so
right
in
the
area.
D
So
I've
taken
personal
investment
in
this,
not
that
that
matters,
but
I
do
really
want
to
make
a
great
successful
project
that
our
whole
team
does
actually
that
people
will
move
in,
and
you
know
14
great
neighbors
that
take
as
much
involvement
in
their
community
as
as
these
folks
do
here.
So
I
really
appreciate
the
input.
D
I
guess
the
first
one
was
the
the
height
of
the
roof
decks
and
just
wanted
to
clarify.
I
didn't:
have
the
elevations
pulled
up
for
the
first
presentation,
but
the
height
of
the
roof
deck
is
24
feet
to
the
bottom
of
the
railing,
so
wanted
to
clarify
it's
not
actually.
35
feet
tall
so
we're
all
you
know,
aware
of
really
you're
standing
at
in
line
with
the
roof
of
the
third
floor,
not
above
the
third
floor
and
lower
than
the
roof
of
the
third
floor.
D
To
be
honest
and
the
other
consideration
was
the
parking-
and
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that
you
know
our
garages
are
gonna,
be
two-car
per
city
standard,
so
we're
complying
with
the
requirements
the
city
has
established
for
functional
functional
usable
garages.
D
Our
units
have
generous
storage
and
we've
worked
hard
to
make
them
marketable
so
that
people
will
want
to
be
invested
in
their
home
and
also
make
this
a
desirable
place
to
live.
So
if
there's
plenty
of
storage
in
the
unit
functional
garages,
plenty
of
parking
that'll
ensure
that
you
know
our
our
development
team
can
get
the
type
type
of
interest
that
he's
looking
for
to
make
this
a
great
project
so
again
exceeding
code
parking
by
quite
a
bit.
D
G
Thank
you,
mr
wenzel.
So
next
we
will
close
the
public
portion
of
the
hearing,
and
the
item
is
before
the
commission.
K
G
You
I
have
a
second
from
commissioner
moore,
any
discussion.
Madam.
M
Chair
commissioner
finfrock
there's
a
couple
issues
discussed
tonight
during
the
public
comments,
so
I'll,
just
kind
of
break
it
down
to
address
the
height.
The
project,
I
believe,
is
34
feet
in
height,
which
is
less
than
the
allowed
35
foot
height
requirement
asked
to
traffic
ada
county
highway
district
reviewed
the
project
and
approved
it
and
as
to
the
parking
there's
no
variance
request.
So
it
does
meet
the
parking
requirement
per
code
and
I
understand
the
concern
in
the
density.
M
P
Commissioner,
moore
god
support
the
motion,
of
course
and
yeah
everything
that
commissioner
pinfrog
said
in
terms
of
the
height
35
feet
is
the
max
in
both
r1c
and
the
r1m.
So,
regardless
of
which
zone
it
would
be,
and
it
would
be
35
feet
is
allowed
either
way.
So
that's
not
really
a
variance
or
different
than
what
might
be
there,
even
if
it
was
a
single
family
house
and
in
terms
of
the
access
and
as
your
planning
staff
stated
it's
a
standard
condition.
K
B
I'll
be
supporting
the
motion
as
well.
I
agree
with
comments
from
commissioner
finfrock
and
commissioner
moore.
Just
a
couple
of
follow-up
comments
certainly
understand
the
concerns
from
the
neighborhood.
B
B
As
far
as
the
existing
properties
around
you
know,
I
definitely
appreciate
the
concern
the
desire
to
see
more
of
the
same,
but
I
would
counter
that
with.
I
think
this
is
a
nice,
a
nice
addition
to
the
neighborhood
in
adding
another
another
unit
mix,
another
style
of
property
or
house
into
the
neighborhood.
So
I
appreciate
that
change,
especially
given
its
proximity
to
36th
and
hill
and
the
transit
routes
and
those
services
in
the
area,
and
then
I
guess
just
to
touch
base
quickly
on
the
rooftop
decks.
B
I
agree
that
the
building
the
total
building
heights
are
below
what's
allowed
in
the
zone
and
and
and
other
comparable
zones.
I
would
just
ask,
maybe
the
applicant
to
continue
to
look
at
those
rooftop
decks
and
maybe
incorporate
some
sort
of
other
screening
or
amenities
right
to
help
with
some
of
that.
The
privacy
concerns
that
the
neighbors
have
in
the
vicinity
and
then
in
regards
to
the
two
conditions
that
the
applicant
brought
up,
I'm
apt
to
leave
those
two
conditions
as
they're
written.
B
I
I
don't
see
any
any
real
detriment
to
keeping
them
in
in
the
application,
and
so
I'm
again,
I'm
in
support
of
the
motion
as
written.
G
Okay,
so
just
to
recap
here
we
have
a
a
motion
to
recommend
approval
for
car,
20-15
and
suv,
20-51
and
suv
20-58
and
motion
to
approve
pd,
28-42
and
cva
20-64.
G
Will
the
clerk
please
call
the
vote
said.
I.
J
D
G
G
S
S
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
commission.
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
rezone
of
of
0.36
acres
from
pcd
pedestrian
commercial
with
downtown
designer
view
overlay
to
c5d,
with
the
da,
which
is
the
central
business
business
district
with
with
the
downtown
design
of
the
overlay
at
a
development
agreement.
The
site
is
located
at
the
northeast
corner
of
state
street
and
16th
street,
both
arterial
roadways
and
is
situated
within
the
downtown
planning
area
and
within
the
west
side,
downtown
urban
renewal
district.
S
It
is
also
designated
as
downtown
mixed
use
on
the
land
use
map
within
blueprint
boise.
The
subject
property
is
currently
occupied
by
gas
station
and
convenience
store
and,
as
you
can
see,
from
the
aerial
photograph
here,
the
surrounding
area
consists
of
the
albersons
to
the
north
northwest
and
then
across.
The
street
is
the
rite
aid,
which
is
a
retail
pharmacy
store
in
the
offices
and
their
offices
surrounding
the
site
adjacent
to
the
north
and
to
the
east.
S
The
subject
property
was
part
of
a
recent
city-initiated
rezone
that
removed
the
c2
zoning
from
the
street
street
corridor.
A
key
goal
of
that
develop
of
that
amendment
was
to
promote
a
more
compact,
pedestrian-oriented
oriented
development
pattern
rather
than
auto-centric
development
encouraged
in
the
c2
zone.
The
pc
zone
remains
an
appropriate
zone
for
much
of
state
street,
which
includes
the
subject
property.
However,
it
does
not
accommodate
the
residential
density
allowed
by
the
proposed
c5
zone.
S
The
existing
pc
zone
would
limit
the
property
to
about
15
units
an
acre,
whereas
there
is
no
density
limit
in
the
c5.
The
surrounding
area
is
a
mix
of
uses
which
includes
commercial
along
15th,
16th
and
state
street.
These
commercial
uses
transition
into
a
mix
of
residential
multi-family
and
offices
about
two
blocks
to
the
north
state
street.
The
transition
of
this
residential
neighborhood
in
into
a
mix
of
uses
has
occurred
over
many
years
and
includes
five
m:
a
five-story
multi-family
building
located
two
blocks
away
at
16th
and
franklin.
S
The
da
is
that
a
da
is
attached
to
the
property,
since
the
site
is
not
contiguous
to
c5
zoning.
The
proposed
d.a
ties
the
site
to
this
project
that
you
see
here.
This
development
is
a
six-story
mixed-use
building
which
contains
approximately
4
000
square
feet
of
ground
floor,
commercial
and
105
residential
dwelling
units
on
the
upper
floors.
S
The
project
design
here
is
conceptual
and
the
projects
in
the
project
specific,
such
as
bedroom,
count
landscaping
parking
will
be
addressed
with
the
design
of
your
application
in
the
future,
and
the
proposed
uses
residential
commercial
are
allowed
in
the
c5
zone.
The
da
well.
The
development
agreement
will
also
ensure
the
compatib
the
compatibility,
the
rezone
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
S
The
project
design
concentrates
the
building
height
at
the
intersection
of
state
street
and
16th
street
and
provides
a
measurable
transition
with
the
adjacent
properties
which
is
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
It
will
also
alleviate
the
project's
adverse
impact
on
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
In
addition,
the
applicant
has
also
agreed
to
provide
affordable
housing
at
80
to
100
percent.
Ami
area
mean
income
for
about
five
units
of
the
development.
The
affordable
housing
is
will
also
be
a
requirement
of
the
development
agreement
itself.
S
The
planning
team
did
receive
several
letters
of
opposition
which
the
the
planning
or
the
commission
should
have
received
both
within
the
packet
and
in
and
within
two
late
correspondence
memos,
the
neighbor,
the
neighbors
expressed
concerns
with
the
building
mass
and
height.
The
project
design
concentrates
the
tallest
part
of
the
structure
at
the
intersection
and
steps
the
building
height
to
the
north,
down
to
the
north
and
to
the
east.
This
provides
a
transition
with
the
adjacent
properties
and
their
anticipated
future
development.
S
G
Thank
you,
mr
moser,
we'll
next
hear
from
the
applicant
we'll
start
with
10
minutes.
I
see
maybe
two
of
you
on
so
please
just
start
with
your
name
and
address
and
then
name
again
as
if
you,
if
you
pass
it
back
and
forth.
Thank
you.
T
Sure
everybody
hear
me:
yes,
okay,
my
name
is
matthew
cameron,
clark
and
I
live
at
406
west
sherman
street.
T
This
is
actually
my
first
housing
development,
so
I'm
very
excited
to
be
joining
you
tonight,
working
toward
providing
some
much
needed
housing
for
our
community.
T
Although
I
am
new
to
this
pursuit,
I'm
fortunate
enough
to
have
partners
and
collaborators
on
this
project
who
have
decades
of
experience,
and
we
believe
that,
with
your
support,
we
can
build
something
really
special
and
clearly
needed
by
the
city.
I'm
a
boise
native,
born
right,
downtown
at
st
luke's,
and
I
have
a
deep
affection
for
this
city
for
our
downtown
and
for
the
north
end
in
particular,
where
I've
lived
most
of
my
adult
life.
T
As
some
of
you
may
know,
I
spent
25
years
in
the
nonprofit
professional
theater
world
and
was
surrounded
by
extraordinary
people
there
who
work
very
hard
to
make
boise
a
more
interesting,
diverse
and
vibrant
place
to
live
all
while
making
a
very
modest
living.
These
artists
and
technicians,
along
with
boise's
restaurant
workers,
grocery
store
employees,
educators,
healthcare
workers,
delivery
drivers
and
many
others
make
up
a
workforce
that
is
struggling
to
find
affordable
and
livable
housing
close
enough
to
the
walkable
heart
of
the
city.
T
We
believe
that
adding
to
the
inventory
of
available
units
in
the
right
locations
is
the
best
way
to
address
this
issue.
In
the
summer
of
2019,
we
began
looking
for
an
appropriate
site
to
build
some
beautiful
new
efficient
apartments,
with
walkability
affordability
and
livability
as
our
top
priorities.
T
In
addition,
to
our
first
hand,
knowledge
of
the
neighborhood
we've
used
blueprint,
boise
and
a
number
of
other
plans,
including
transit
and
bicycle
access,
as
referenced
to
identify
what
we
believe
is
an
ideal
location
at
the
corner
of
16th
and
state
transition
zone
between
the
north
end
and
the
downtown
core
right
at
the
edge
of
the
downtown
mixed
use
area.
As
designated
in
boise's
comprehensive
plan.
T
With
the
zoning
adjustment
we're
asking
for
tonight,
including
the
strict
limitations
outlined
in
our
development
agreement,
we
could
make
a
meaningful
contribution
to
boise's
housing
needs
in
a
location
with
all
the
necessary
services
accessible
on
foot.
To
give
you
a
better
idea
of
why
this
is
an
ideal
site
for
this
building.
U
Gglo
hello:
this
is
tom
sheldon
at
gglo,
architects,
1199,
shoreline
drive,
suite
290
boise
share
my
screen
here
and
see
if.
U
So
I'd
like
to
kind
of
explain
a
little
bit
of
what
goes
through
our
mind
when,
when
a
client
like
matthew,
gives
us
a
site-
and
we
do
our
analysis
and
the
first
thing
we
do
is
we
go
into
blueprint,
blueprint,
boise
now,
of
course,
you
guys
all
know
this,
but
I'm
gonna
mention
this,
because
this
actually
is
the
the
precursor
to
how
we
do
our
overlays
to
determine
if
this
is
the
right
site
for
housing
and
also
for
housing
for
the
workforce
in
downtown
boise.
U
So
here
are
some
of
the
goals
that
we're
trying
to
meet
that
blue
boise
is
meeting.
We
look
for
sites
that
that
have
opportunities
to
meet
most
of
the
daily
needs
within
walking
distance.
We
want
workforce
housing
in
areas
that
are
near
transit,
which
is
important.
U
We
want
zoning
areas
that
can
remove
barriers,
particularly
in
the
downtown
mixed
use
zone,
and
that's
really.
The
key
here
is
the
downtown
mixed
use
zone
which
we're
in
traffic
is
an
issue
and
will
become
more
issue
as
time
goes,
and
so
we
actually
are
looking
for
sites
that
actually
reduce
traffic,
and
this
is
a
group.
This
is
a
gas
station
that
that
not
only
has
more
curb
cuts
than
you
can
imagine,
but
also
has
a
lot
of
traffic.
U
We
encourage
compact
developments
that
actually
decrease
the
traffic
counts,
also
blueprint
boise
lists
brownfield
sites
which
are
sites
that
are
underutilized
parking,
lots,
gas
stations,
things
like
that
that
are
actually
in
the
downtown
area.
U
U
We
want
to
locate
the
high
density
residential,
particularly
in
areas
again
with
transit,
and
you
can
see
a
theme
here:
workforce
housing.
We
want
it
to
be
downtown
where
people
can
live
and
work
and
play
without
using
their
car,
and
also
all
the
services
are
available
from
grocery
stores
to
schools
to
pharmacies.
U
Restaurants.
So
I
want
to
quote
here
exactly
what
we
feel
this
is
boise
staff
report.
This
is
exactly
where
the
development
code
envisioned
the
c5
zone
to
occur.
In
particular,
the
subject
property
is
located
in
the
west
side:
urban
downtown
renewal
district,
it's
in
the
downtown
planning
area
and
is
designated
in
the
downtown
mixed
use
area
within
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
the
rezone
is
supported
by
multiple
policies
in
the
comprehensive
plan
which
I
have
listed.
U
So
what
we
do
is
we're
going
to
apply
these
overlays
to
demonstrate
that
we're
not
proposing
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
precedent
to
build
this
type
of
housing
to
the
north
or
to
to
the
west,
but
we're
going
to
keep
it
in
the
downtown
mixture
zone,
which
here's
an
overlay
for
the
blueprint,
boise
downtown
planning
area.
This
is
the
downtown
planning
area
we're
right
on
the
edge
of
it.
U
U
We
incorporate
the
state
tree
state
street
priority
corridor,
which
is
where
the
tod
stations
are,
which
we
happen
to
have
two
of
them
right
across
the
street
from
us,
which
you
can
see
with
the
two
black
dots.
One
is
going
eastbound
one's
going
westbound
and
we
are
within
a
five-minute
walk
of
transit
station.
U
U
And
then,
of
course,
you
can
see
in
the
light
blue
or
within
the
west
west
side,
urban
renewal
district.
So.
U
Limited
area
here
for
development
and
we're
not
proposing
we've
met
with
the
north
end
group
a
couple
of
times
and
they
were
concerned
about
housing
density
may
be
moving
further
north.
We,
the
goal
here,
is
to
actually
keep
it
on
the
corridor
where
the
transit
is
and
then,
as
as
the
staff
report
mentioned,
we
are
proposing
to
step
the
building
down
as
you
go
to
the
north,
so
the
rezone
is
consistent
with
the
standards
of
approval.
This
is
precisely
the
location
close
to
downtown,
where
additional
housing
should
be
accommodated.
U
We're
providing
housing
with
a
compact
development
as
a
means
to
reduce
traffic,
we're
providing
higher
density,
housing
along
transit
corridors,
we're
providing
housing,
affordable
for
people
working
in
the
downtown
and
that's
key,
providing
housing
within
a
walking
distance
of
the
daily
services
providing
housing
where
employment
is
located
and
then,
finally,
we're
providing
development
that
meets
many
of
the
blueprint
boise
goals.
U
G
U
Yeah
I
have
a
minute
left
here.
I
just
want
to
mention
that
we
met
with
the
north,
the
neighborhood
group
in
our
neighborhood
meeting,
and
there
was
some
comments
about
stepping
the
building
down,
which
we
did
here,
as
you
can
see,
we're
stepping
it
not
only
to
the
north,
but
we're
also
stepping
it
to
the
east
as
you're
coming
from
the
capital.
U
Some
statistics-
were
about
100
to
105
units,
about
4,
000
square
feet
of
non-residential
and
in
that
would
be
your
leasing
office,
potentially
a
little
coffee
shop
or
something
back
a
house
things
like
that.
We're
stepping
the
building
from
18
feet
up
to
85
feet,
which
is
part
of
the
development
green
agreement
limit
approximately
over
3000
square
feet
of
private
open
space
and
we're
only
about
a
third
of
an
acre
and
as
it
mentioned
in
there,
we
are
providing
five
affordable
units
that
are
part
of
the
development
agreement.
U
And
so
here's
just
kind
of
the
layout
retail
at
the
corner,
with
parking
in
the
back
housing,
above
with
open
space,
fully
landscape,
with
public
open
with
private,
open
space
on
the
podium
level
and,
as
you
can
see,
here's
where
we're
stepping
down
so.
G
I'll
stop
there.
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
sheldon.
So
next
we
would
be
hearing
from
the
northand
neighborhood
association.
Do
we
have
anybody
present
tonight
representing
the
neighborhood
association?
If
so,
please
virtually
raise
the
hand.
G
M
B
S
Madam
chair,
remember:
the
commission.
The
85
foot
building
max
was
requested
by
the
applicant.
Normally
the
c5
zone
doesn't
have
a
building
height
max,
so
we
were
looking
at
something
ways
to
reduce
it
down.
S
85
gets,
I
guess,
a
little
bit
higher
or
higher
ceilings
in
the
structure
and
allows
for
maybe
to
accommodate
any
roof
units
they
might
have
and
or
also
the
plan
is
conceptual
at
this
point
and
we'll
have
to
go
through
designer
view,
so
it
gives
them
a
little
more
flexibility
on
the
design
and
it
still
provides
the
protection
we
thought
and
scales
it
to
the
adjacent
neighborhood
at
85..
B
The
follow-up
I
was
wondering,
if
maybe
mr
sheldon
or
mr
cameron
can
or
can
speak
to
that,
that
building
height
a
little
bit
more.
U
Yeah
very
good
question:
the
building
height
is
85
feet.
Many
things
one
is
it's
the
limits
to
the
construction
type
that
we're
doing
that's
affordable
in
order
to
build
the
building,
it
won't
be
high-rise
construction.
We
can't
go
over
85
feet.
The
other
thing
too,
is
we're
not
adding
another
floor.
We.
U
What
we're
doing
is
we're
stretching
the
floors,
because
quality
of
the
unit
and
the
quality
of
living
is
so
important
when
you
have
high
density
housing,
and
so
we
actually
are
proposing
that
the
florida's
that
there's
floor-to-ceiling
windows,
and
so
we
have
a
little
more
height
in
the
units.
B
David
any
idea,
how
far
I
guess:
what's
the
proximity
to
the,
how
close
is
the
next
building
of
that
height
to
this
property?
Any
idea.
S
There
is
a
madam
chairman
members:
the
commission
of
this
height
you'd
have
to
get
a
bit
closer
to
downtown.
There
is
a
five-story
structure,
just
two
blocks
away
at
16th
and
franklin.
It's
a
multi-story
building.
M
Finfrock,
madam
chair,
this
question
is
for
staff.
I
think
david
had
a
memo
dated
december
14th.
That
talked
about
some
drawings
that
showed
the
compatibility
of
the
surrounding
area,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
he
could
show
us
those
drawings.
It
might
help
give
us
an
idea
of
the
density
in
the
surrounding.
S
Area
out
of
chair,
what
is
the
commission?
I
don't
know
exactly
what.
M
S
Okay,
let
me
take
a
look
here
and
it
it
probably
was
a
correspondence
received
from
the
applicant.
They
might
have
a
better
access
to
it.
M
Some
conceptional
draw
or
conceptual
drawings
as
to
I
think
you
did
a
comparison
of
the
density
or
the
height
density
for
the
surrounding
area.
I
think
you
probably
had
some
drawings
that
just
compared
the
height
for
your
application
in
comparison
to
the
surrounding
areas
is
that
correct.
T
M
U
U
Yeah,
so
this
this,
if
this
is
what
you're
talking
about
this-
is
the
building
to
the
north
right
here
and
and
we're
actually
in
some
portions
we're
going
to
be
shorter
than
that
building
and
then
it
steps
up.
And
then
this
is
a
medical
office.
Building
to
the
to
the
east
on
state
street
right
here,
the
building
to
the
north
is
likely
to
it's.
Probably
one
of
those
brownfield
sites
that
is
likely
to
be
to
be
developed.
U
G
H
P
Commissioner,
moore
so
in
the
in
the
late
correspondence,
I
think
the
neighborhood
association
noted
that
they
they
went
through
kind
of
a
work
session.
They
worked
with
the
city
to
develop
this
pc
zone
and
we're
concerned
that
it
was
being
changed
just
within
a
couple
of
years
during
that
kind
of
work,
those
work
sessions.
P
S
Area,
madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
you
know
there
was
that
whole
where
we
basically
rezoned
the
c2
zone
to
pc.
It
was
always
sort
of
you
know
given
or
sort
of
that.
This
ultimately
could
could
change,
given
its
proximity,
proximity
to
downtown
and
the
the
more
appropriateness
of
having
a
c5
zone.
Here,
I
wasn't
actually
participating
too
much
in
those
particular
meetings
with
the
neighborhood.
S
So
I
don't
know
if
that
was
specifically
brought
up
or
a
point
of
discussion
at
that
time,
but
I
think
it's
always
sort
of
been
assumed
that
you
know
that
the
applicant
could
come
in
and
rezone
it
as
long
as
to
a
c5
or
a
different
zone
as
long
as
they're
maintaining
the
intent
of
the
pc
zone,
which
is
to
not
make
it
to
keep
it
not
auto
centric,
keep
it
more
pedestrian-oriented
and
more
downtown
and
design,
and
and
feel.
B
David,
I
I
didn't
see
anything
in
the
dea
in
our
packet
related
to
drive-through,
permitting
a
drive-through
at
the
property.
Is
that
included
in
the
d.a
or
limiting
that
use.
S
Madam
chair
members
of
commission,
the
da
doesn't
specifically
outlaw
the
the
drive-throughs.
It
doesn't
prohibit
it,
but
it
does
tie
the
site
to
this
specific
design
and
there
is
no
drive-through
in
this
design.
So
they
would
have
to
change
the
da
to
change
this
concept.
To
put
a
d8
or
to
put
a
drive
through
in
and
that's
a
whole
da
modification
would
have
to
come
back
before
this
commission
and
ultimately
the
city.
S
G
Okay,
so
next
we
will
be
moving
on
to
public
testimony.
We're
gonna
take
a
quick
five-minute
break
before
that,
though,
but
if
you're
interested
in
speaking
on
this
item
tonight,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand
and
when
we
come
back
at
about
10
after
I'll
just
start
going
through
the
list.
Thank
you
so
much
see
you
in
five.
G
G
Okay,
thank
you.
We
are
back
so
again
if
you're
interested
in
speaking
tonight,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand
so
that
we
can
call
on
you.
G
Okay,
we'll
start
first
with
jared
austin,
please,
when
you're
ready
to
unmute.
Please
start
with
your
name
and
address
and
you'll
have
three
minutes.
V
Perfect,
my
name
is
jared
austin.
I
live
at
4211
west
fairmont
street.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
commission
for
their
time
today
and
just
getting
to
to
look
at
all
these
these
different
projects
for
our
city.
We
all
love
this
place
and
we
all
want
it
to
be
better.
So
thank
you
for
your
time,
I'm
here
today
to
to
voice
my
support
for
this
project.
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
good
conceptual
project
for
the
location
that
it's
in
it
has
a
good
amount
of
density.
V
Also
that
boise
sometimes
has
less
of
this
amount
of
density
should
help
in
reducing
the
demand
for
sprawl
near
the
edges
of
our
city.
As
we
continue
to
grow,
this
type
of
development
should
also
increase
demand
and
support
for
a
lot
of
our
businesses
and
around
the
downtown
core,
especially
during
covid.
V
This
is
pretty
important
to
think
about
with
perhaps
our
work
for
forces
kind
of
rearranging
a
bit
with
standard
offices,
maybe
having
fewer
people
returning
to
them
more
residential
near
these
types
of
amenities
that
we
have
so
many
of
downtown
will
help
keep
these
places
alive,
even
with
fewer
people.
Returning
to
offices
once
coveted
is
under
control.
V
This
place
has
so
much
walkability
compared
to
almost
any
other
project
that
I've
seen
recently
this.
This
might
be
the
best
it's
literally
across
the
street,
from
a
grocery
store,
a
gas
and
not
a
gas
station.
It
was
a
gas
station.
It's
across
the
street
from
a
drugstore.
It
has
a
laundry
mat
within
walking
distance.
There
are
schools
within
walking
distance.
There
are
restaurants
close
by
there
is
so
much
close
to
to
this
potential
development.
V
It's
a
great
use
of
space.
It's
great
for
transportation
needs,
as
was
mentioned.
This
is
on
one
of
the
best
transportation
lines
in
the
state
with
the
number
nine
route
and
it's
a
great,
a
great
utilization
of
this
investment
and.
H
V
The
other
thing
with
this
with
this
development,
this
utilizes
investments
that
the
city
has
made
in
the
area
in
a
very
good
way
density,
allows
us
to
capture
those
those
monetary
investments
that
we've
made
and
and
make
sure
that
they're
well
utilized.
V
So
this
project
should
add
diversity
to
housing
options
in
the
area.
If
people
look
at
this
project
and
say
well,
I
wouldn't
want
to
live
there.
Sometimes
that's
not!
The
point
just
know
that
there
are
other
people
who
would
want
to
live
there
and
there
are
quite
a
few
of
them.
This
is
especially
true
in
an
area
near
an
area
of
town
that
can
be
a
little
more
expensive
and
a
little
more
exclusive
and
a
little
more
insulated
from
both
density
and
affordability,
mostly
due
to
single
family
zoning.
V
G
Thank
you,
mr
austin.
Is
there
anybody
else
tonight
that
would
like
to
speak
on
this
on
this
project?
I
oh
good,
there's
a
couple
of
hands:
let's
start
with
drew
alexander,
please
give
us
a
moment
to
switch
you
over
to
be
a
panelist
and
then,
when
you're
ready
to
unmute.
Please
start
with
your
name
and
address
and
you'll
have
three
minutes.
W
W
I
live
three
blocks
from
the
proposed
project.
I
walk
bike
or
drive
by
this
site
numerous
times
per
week,
and
I
would
like
to
express
my
support
for
the
proposal.
W
Ten
years
ago,
when
I
purchased
a
home
where
I
did,
I
knew
the
location
came
with
some
consequences.
Primarily
I
knew
I
was
near
downtown
and
that
additional
downtown
development
was
likely
in
the
future.
I
embrace
that
idea
because
I
feel
that
cities
are
at
their
best
when
dynamic
uses
like
this
are
in
place,
and
a
variety
of
options
exist
for
residents
and
businesses
alike.
W
W
W
There's
also
seems
to
be
some
concern
about
a
loss
or
change
to
the
pc
zone,
and
I
too
would
argue
that
this
project,
more
than
anything,
might
ensure
that
adjacent
pc
zoning
is
more
vibrant
and
successful
through
the
residential
density
that
it
provides
from
code.
The
purpose
of
pc
zone
is
to
provide
for
pedestrian-friendly
retail
office
and
mixed-use
development
in
pedestrian
friendly
environments
and
further
at
states
to
foster
pedestrian-oriented
design.
W
A
quick,
google,
google
image
search
results
in
a
theme
of
buildings
of
this
stature
in
downtown
settings
when
you
search
pedestrian
oriented
additionally,
state
street
is
gradually
hopefully
transitioning.
One
of
boise's
strongest
transit
corridors
being
adjacent
to
state
street
within
walking
distance
of
downtown
any
perceived
impacts
to
parking
and
traffic
are
not
a
concern
for
me.
The
only
thing
I
would
encourage
is
that
some
of
the
4
000
square
feet
of
non-residential
area
is
programmed
for
retail
or
commercial.
W
W
G
O
I
live
at
912
west
brumback
in
boise
in
the
north
end,
so
this
is
at
the
edge
of
my
neighborhood,
and
I
want
to
voice
strong
support
for
for
similar
reasons
that
drew
and
jared
just
presented
as
part
of
a
vibrant,
growing
city
that
has
a
lot
of
people
who
would
like
to
join
us,
and
particularly
a
lot
of
people
who
would
like
the
opportunity
to
live
near
downtown
near
parts
of
the
orth
north
end
that
are
very
desirable
and
in
a
place
that
has
some
of
the
better
or
least
more
decent
access
to
transit
in
the
city.
O
I
think
this
is
an
ideal
place
to
accommodate
that
growing
density.
I
have
not
much
else
to
add
other
than
I
think
it's
a
great
project,
and
I
welcome
this
project
in
my
neighborhood.
G
N
Thank
you.
My
name
is
alexandra
manjar.
I
live
at
2222
west
county
street
in
boise
and,
like
the
others
who
have
spoken
already,
I
just
want
to
express
my
support
for
this
project.
I
think
this
is
the
exact
right
place
for
more
density.
N
More
housing
within
walkable
distance
of
groceries
daily
needs
downtown,
and
I
really
think
that
the
higher
density
commercial
zones
within
our
downtown
should
be
extended
to
this
area.
I
think
that
in
boise
our
downtown
area
gets
really
condensed
and
I
think
in
the
future
this
will
be
considered
part
of
downtown.
So
I
think
this
is
a
very
appropriate
place
for
a
project
like
this.
Thank
you.
G
Oh
one
more
miss
saha
just
give
us
a
moment
while
we
switch
you
over
and
again,
please
start
with
your
name
and
address
when
you
unmute
you'll
have
three
minutes.
R
My
name
is
esther
saha.
I
reside
at
3901
north
cambria
way
83703.
R
You
know
I
echo
what
others
have
commented
on
and
that
the
location
for
high
density
on
a
transit
corridor
makes
sense.
My
only
comment
on
this
is
affordable
housing.
Last
monday,
before
you,
you
had
a
proposal
in
west
boise
that
had
some
affordable
housing.
This
one
seems
to
be
a
larger
project
in
the
core
downtown
area
and
we
need
to
move
past
that
80
to
100
ami,
because
the
need
we
know
is
also
below
that.
R
If
you
look
at
the
city
of
boise's
housing
authority,
we
have
for
section
8
housing,
which
is
below
that
80
percent.
We
have
a
two
to
two
and
a
half
year,
wait
for
housing,
so
I
just
would
encourage
the
developer
and
and
the
commission
to
think
about
this.
G
It
thank
you,
for
your
comments,
say
hi.
Okay,
so
is
if
there's
last
call
if
you're
interested
in
speaking
on
this
item
tonight,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand,
okay,
seeing
none.
Then
we
will
move
on
to
a
rebuttal
from
the
applicant
and
you'll
have
five
minutes.
Please
start
again
with
your
name.
T
Again,
my
name
is
matthew,
cameron,
clark.
I'll
be
brief.
I
appreciate
the
support
from
the
community.
It's
a
lovely
surprise,
to
see
so
many
people
responding
positively
to
this.
To
this
plan
we
had
some
great
conversations
with
people
in
the
neighborhood
and
and
feel
like
we've
settled
on
on
a
project.
That's
really
gonna
serve.
The
community
parking
is
covered
in
this
in
this
project.
T
It's
gonna
be
a
pedestrian
and
bicycle
friendly
with
a
you
know,
bike
room
and
bike
workbench
available,
and
you
know
the
drive-thru
concern
also,
I
think
got
covered
by
mr
moser,
but
we
feel
like
we
are
gonna,
be
adding
some
serious
inventory.
You
know
this
under
the
current
zoning
we'd
be
limited
to
15
units.
So
by
making
this
change
tonight
we
can
add
100
new
efficient,
but
very
livable
beautiful
apartments
to
the
neighborhood.
So
that's
all
I
have
tom.
Did
you
have
anything
else?
U
No,
I
I
do
have
if
you
have
any
questions
regarding
the
design
of
the
building.
I
do
know
that
the
the
what
I'm
worried
about
is
making
sure
that
the
units
are
very
livable
and
very
nice
with
again
lots
of
light
lots
of
air
and
and
that's
important
for
the
folks
that
would
be
living
here,
because
the
units
are
not
big.
Three
bedroom
units
they're
smaller
units
and
in
order
to
have
a
very
livable
unit.
U
G
E
G
Chair
commissioner,
blanchford.
L
Madam
chair
I'll
start,
if
that's
okay-
yes,
please,
commissioner
squires
so,
first
of
all,
it's
incredibly
refreshing
to
hear
community
support
for
a
project
was
not
prepared
for
this.
This
evening
was
prepared
for
angry
neighbors,
but
thank
you
for
those
of
you
who
stepped
up
and
and
supported
this
project.
I
think
it's
great
personally.
I
think
this
is
the
exact
area
that
we
need.
This
type
of
project.
L
L
The
density
is
very
appropriate
due
to
the
overlays
that
were
mentioned.
Workforce
housing
is
incredibly
desirable
in
this
location
and
it
is
a
redevelopment
of
a
brownfield
site
and
I
think
that's
that's
worth
noting.
I
think
the
d.a
provides
assurance
to
the
residents
and
limits
the
project
to
what's
being
proposed,
and
so
I
throw
my
full
support
behind
this
project
and
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
developer
for
proposing
this.
B
I'll
be
supporting
the
motion
as
well
for
all
the
reasons
that
commissioner
squires
just
mentioned,
I
think
staff
did
a
nice
job
in
the
packet.
You
know
summarizing
the
project
and
evaluating
its
merits.
Just
a
couple
of
comments
I
do.
I
certainly
do
appreciate
the
need
for
housing,
downtown
and
increased
density.
I'll,
be
perfectly
honest,
I'm
a
bit
concerned
about
the
overall
height
of
the
building.
B
I
wouldn't
be
opposed
to
seeing
it
to
seeing
them
drop
a
floor
to
max
out
at
a
five
foot
story.
Building.
It
just
feels
maybe
a
bit
tall
for
this
location
today
now
granted,
of
course,
as
as
downtown
used
to
develop
this
might
become
the
norm,
but
as
it
stands
today,
it
does
feel
a
bit
tall
to
me
and
then,
to
be
perfectly
frank,
I
would
like
to
see
more
affordable
units
or
an
increase
in
the
ami
percentages.
B
I
do
appreciate
they've
addressed
that
to
some
degree,
but
I
think,
with
105
units
I
would
like
to
see
an
increase
in
one
of
those
two
metrics,
either
more
units
or
a
greater
variety
in
the
ami.
So
those
are
my
only
two
real
concerns.
Slash
comments
about
the
project,
otherwise
I
think
it
looks
good
and
I'm
in
support.
E
The
maker
of
the
motion-
I
should
probably
just
chime
in
really
quick
but
yeah.
I
want
to
thank
mr
clark
and
mr
sheldon
for
a
very
thoughtful
project.
I
think
this
is
a
perfect
activation
of
the
pc
zone,
actually,
where
you've
actually
got
the
building
facing
the
sidewalk,
so
that
retail
is
approachable
and
livable
space.
Above
I
mean
it's
exactly
what
you
want
to
do
in
a
pc
zone.
I
think,
frankly,
we're
probably
a
little
bit
behind
on
implementing
zoning
on
that
state
street
corridor.
E
I
think
the
comprehensive
plan
anticipates
that
it
will
change
over
time
and
I
think
that's
where
everyone
got
the
idea
that
this
kind
of
density
would
be
appropriate
but
yeah,
it's
a
it's
a
great
project
and
yeah
we're
certainly
happy
to
see
it
go
through
smooth
sailing
tonight.
I
did
not
anticipate
that
either
so.
J
P
So
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion
as
well.
A
couple
of
things
I
mean
the
brownfield
site,
like
commissioner
squires
mentioned,
is
just
awesome
to
see
that
being
utilized
as
then
feels
well.
One
item
that
I
did
notice
in
the
aachd
staff
report.
There
seems
to
be
some
sort
of
disconnect
between
the
city
street
standards
in
this
application
versus
achd
street
state
stan
streetscape
standards,
so
look
forward
to
seeing
how
that
kind
of
gets
worked
out
when
we
as
we
work
through
these
more
urban
blocks.
P
Otherwise
it
means
great
project,
the
height
I'm
unsure.
If
it's
a
little
high
or
not,
it
might
be
a
little
bit
high,
but
I
do
understand
the
the
applicant's
desire
to
create
higher
ceilings
floor
to
ceiling
windows
and
things
like
that-
and
I
do
appreciate
that
so
the
amount
of
the
thought
that's
gone
into
the
reasoning
behind
those
heights.
I
can
appreciate
it
as
well,
so
I
think
it's
a
great
project
and
look
forward
to
seeing
it
move
forward.
G
G
Okay,
next.
G
Item
item
number
three:
this
is
car
20-16
from
givens
pursley
llp
differed
from
december
14th
2020
at
6506
north
eugene
lane
it's
an
annexation
of
2.97
acres
with
a
rezone
designation,
we'll
first
hear
from
staff,
and
I
think
you're
up
miss
nelson.
Please.
X
Madam
chair
and
commissioners,
before
you,
as
a
request
to
annex
approximately
2.98
acres
with
a
zoning
designation
of
a1da
open
lands
with
a
development
agreement
located
at
6506
north
eugene
lane,
the
site
is
on
the
north
side
of
hill
road
in
an
area
dominated
by
single-family
dwellings
on
large
lots
and
privately
owned
undeveloped
parcels.
X
The
property
is
currently
undeveloped
and
zoned
rural
preservation
within
within
ada
county,
but
is
located
within
the
boise
area
city
impact
in
a
busboy
city
limits
to
the
north
west
and
south.
The
applicant
requests
a1da
zoning
in
order
to
allow
the
property
to
be
developed
with
one
single
family
home
in
the
future.
X
Since
this
parcel
is
more
than
a
thousand
feet
away
from
a
viable
sewer
connection,
the
city
has
the
ability
to
not
require
connection,
and,
given
that
the
other
properties
along
eugene
eugene
lane
were
annexed
with
the
sewer
exemption,
the
planning
team
finds
that
a
similar
exemption
is
acceptable.
In
this
case,
future
development
of
a
single-family
home
will
require
a
hillside
permit
and
the
develo
and
the
fire
department
has
indicated
via
email
that
a
number
of
improvements
will
be
required
at
that
time,
including
that
the
home
be
fire,
sprinkled
a
turnaround
be
provided
on
the
property.
X
Regarding
road
maintenance,
there
is
a
recorded
cross-access
agreement
which
allows
for
access
from
and
to
hill
road
for
the
subject
property.
Yet
there
are
no
provisions
for
maintenance.
The
commission
or
council
could
consider
a
provision
to
to
the
da
that
would
require
a
maintenance
agreement
be
finalized
prior
to
development
of
the
property.
X
Regarding
compatible
compatible
development,
the
da
does
include
language
which
limits
development
to
one
single
family
home
and
has
added
an
exhibit
that
details,
portions
of
the
property
which
are
not
buildable
due
to
steep
slope
of
the
land,
the
exhibit
provided
in
the
d.a
under
satisfies
condition
d1
in
the
planning
report.
X
G
Y
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
commissioners,
jeff
bauer,
601,
west
bannock
and
boise.
I'm
a
land
use
attorney
at
gibbons-pursley,
and
I'm
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
owner
and
applicant
of
this
property.
First,
thank
you
for
your
time
tonight
and
and
thanks
to
miss
nelson
as
well,
for
her
presentation,
extremely
thorough
and
I'll.
Try
not
to
repeat
anything,
but
we
do
think
this
is
a
pretty
straightforward
application
asking
to
rezone
and
annex
this
2.9
acres
of
property.
Y
I
do
want
to
stress
tonight
that
we
aren't
proposing
any
specific
development
project
or
bringing
any
hillside
development
application
forward.
Really,
the
the
the
impetus
for
this
application
was
to
correct
an
illegal
lot,
split
that
occurred
in
the
1970s
by
deed
and
so
what's
what's
occurred
here
really
is
our
client
has
inherited
this
property
through
through
her
mother,
who
inherited
it
from
her
father
and
over
the
course
of
time
this
property's
just
been
vacant
and
no
one's
dealt
with
this
illegal
subdivision
issue.
Y
So
after
looking
at
the
property,
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
area
of
city
impact
map,
we
decided
that
this
annexation
and
rezone
was
the
best
way
to
bring
the
property
into
conformance,
to
make
it
insurable
and
saleable
to
a
third
party.
The
current
owner
has
no
intent
to
develop.
This
is
really
just
an
issue
of
cleaning
up
title
to
make
sure
it
can
be
sold
on
the
access
issue.
I
agree
with
everything
miss
nelson
said.
Y
We
don't
believe
that
this
needs
to
be
addressed
tonight.
There
is
no
again
any
development
proposed
tonight.
Your
recommendation
of
approval
won't
add
any
traffic
to
the
road
and
ultimately
our
position
would
be.
This
is
a
private
private
road
on
private
property
and
we
do
have
a
recorded
access
agreement
that
allows
us
to
use
this
road
for
access.
Y
So,
in
the
end,
we're
not
sure
what
what
the
maintenance
agreement
would
look
like,
but
that's
certainly
out
of
our
control
at
this
time.
There's
seven
property
owners
that
use
this
road
and,
as
you
can
see
from
from
the
public
comments,
they've
been
unable
to
reach
a
consensus
on
maintenance
for
many
years.
Y
So
again
we
would
request
that
no
action
be
taken
on
maintenance
tonight
and,
to
the
extent
the
city
thinks
that's
necessary.
It
be
deferred
to
the
future
hillside
application
that
will
come
before
this
commission
again,
we
agree
with
all
staff's
conditions.
We
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
would
be
happy
to
stand
for
any
questions
if
there
are
any.
G
M
X
Madam
chair,
commissioner,
from
frock,
yes,
rp,
is
in
ada
county,
so
it's
a
city
is
surrounded
by
city
on
three
sides,
but
it
is
currently
in
eight
accounting.
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you.
G
I
have
a
question
carla:
if
can
you
speak
to
that
term
about
the
maintenance
that
he
was
just
saying
that
can
we
hold
on
making
any
decisions
about
the
maintenance?
Can
you
speak
to
that?
Please.
X
Sure,
madam
chair,
the
the
hillside
permit
will
require
approval
by
fire,
among
others
in
the
city,
and
the
fire
department
has
indicated
that
a
maintenance
agreement
will
be
a
requirement
of
that
approval
at
that
time.
So
staff
is
an
agreement
with
applicant
here
that
it's
not
needed
with
the
annexation,
there's
not
going
to
be
anything
to
build
until
they
get
their
hillside
permit,
and
so
it's
appropriate
in
our
opinion
to
wait,
but
is
it
is
at
the
discretion
of
the
commission
what
you
want
to
do?
Thank
you.
B
B
G
Okay,
see
no
more
questions.
I
will
next
move
to
public
testimony.
So
if
you
are
would
like
to
testify
on
this
item
tonight,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand
and
we'll
just
start
moving
our
way
down
the
line
and
we'll
start
with
ms
scofield
once
you
just
give
us
a
moment,
please
to
switch
you
over
and
then
once
you
unmute,
please
start
with
your
name
and
address.
G
G
Still
not
hearing
you,
I
know
that
we
do
have
a
phone
number
that
we
can
call
into
we'll
throw
it
in
the
chat.
Really
quick.
Just
hang
tight.
If
you
don't.
G
A
G
Erica
you
can
also
try,
if
you
think
you
should
have
audio.
Sometimes
it
helps
me
if
I
just
log
out
and
log
back
in,
and
so
if
we
see
you
again,
we
can
pop
you
back
over.
G
G
G
Z
Great
wonderful,
thank
you,
commission,
richard
lewellen,
9170
hill
road.
We
wanted
to
point
out
that
this
area,
which
I
know
well
having
some
best
friends
growing
growing
up
on
eugene
lane
here
is
out,
is,
is
not
1.7
miles
of
fire
station,
but
it's
2.7.
Z
So
there
was
an
error
in
the
document
received
by
the
by
boise
fire.
There's
been
a
lot
of
developments
up
north
collister
that
are
1.7
miles.
I
think
it
was
probably
just
some
sort
of
switch
switcheroo,
but
it's
clearly
an
error,
and
so
right
now
the
application
is
the
information
you're
presented.
There's
a
clear
air
here
is
the
area,
as
you
see
it
now
off
in
the
north,
you
will
see
it's
often
black
and
charred.
This
is
what
we
saw
three
years
ago.
Z
This
is
not
all
that
unusual
for
this
an
area.
Unfortunately,
that
was
from
september
1st
2017.
Z
regarding
the
fact
that
this
is
surrounded
by
annexed
land
in
1999
the
pierce
park
gulch
was
annexed,
but
it
was
based.
It
was
annexed
based
on
having
a
fire
station
in
the
area
which
they
said
would
be
no
farther
west
than
pierce
park
lane.
There
is
no
fire
station
and
again
there
is
an
air
in
the
in
the
fire
ladder.
Z
That's
it's
it's
a
60
error,
it's
no
small
error
and
so
annexation
we're
supposed
to
be
have
only
annex
when
there's
substantial
compliance
with
level
of
service
standards
and
as
a
fire
for
1.5
miles,
that's
clearly
out
of
compliance
with
2.7
miles
and
then
for
a
rezone.
It
should
be
in
the
best
interest
of
the
public
convenience
and
general
welfare.
Well
right
now
our
fire
response
times
are
increasing
throughout
the
city
and
they
have
been
for
last.
Z
You
know
we're
up
over
seven
now
when
the
iso
rating
is
reviewed
by
a
national
insurance
office.
If
we're
no
longer,
if
our
response
times
are
no
longer
adequate,
then
everybody's
in
the
city
is
going
to
pay
more
for
fire
and
for
for
insurance,
and
so
we
really
need
to
think
about
when
we're
annexing
into
the
wildland
urban
interface
in
a
fire
prone
area
outside
of
level
of
service
standards.
Z
Z
I
think
I
think
you
should
can
reconsider
this.
Thank
you.
G
G
Still
no,
but
I
do
see
a
call
in
phone
number
and
I
wonder
if
that
is
perhaps
ms
scofield's
audio.
G
I
A
Zoom
should
be
as
a
separate
window
because
we
could
just
see
your
powerpoints
as
you
closed
them.
I
I
Okay,
you
can
hear
me
and
see
the
screen:
yes,
we're
winning,
okay,
all
right,
erica,
schofield,
7363,
west
limelight
court.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
this
application,
if
it
is
approved,
means
this
parcel
is
outside
of
the
required
1.5
mile
4-minute
level
of
service
standard
for
fire
response.
The
letter
from
the
boise
fire
department
showed
the
1.7
miles
for
the
fire
station
from
station
9,
but
no
map
is
attached,
so
I
use
the
popular
google
maps
technology
and
you
can
see
that
on
the
screen
on
the
right
there.
I
That
shows
the
distance
is
2.7
miles
and
six
minutes
from
boys
to
fire
station
nine.
It's
likely
that
this
is
a
typo
was
not
an
intentional
misrepresentation,
as
it
may
have
been
meant
for
the
distance
of
0.7
miles
from
the
approved
fire
station
on
pierce
park
lane,
but
this
cannot
be
disregarded
or
ignored.
I
The
level
of
service
standard
for
fire
response
is
contained
in
policy
pdp
5.1
and
table
3
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
It
is
derived
from
ordinance.
The
policies
on
the
comprehensive
plan
are
implemented
by
ordinances
allowed
by
idaho
law.
Ordinance,
5517
and
4316
are
for
the
level
of
service
standard
for
fire
response.
This
is
not
a
discretionary
issue.
I
Tonight
is
the
17th
time
I
have
testified
on
the
issue
of
emergency
and
fire
safety.
Why?
Because
I've
spent
the
past
three
years
researching
the
city's
record
of
more
than
30
years
of
not
complying
with
the
required
level
of
service
standard
for
fire
response
in
relation
to
land
use
law.
This
has
made
me
wonder
if
the
insurance
industry
or
a
personal
injury
lawyer
has
realized,
it
may
be
able
to
recover
payments
for
claims
incurred
due
to
boise's
failure
to
comply
with
the
law.
I
used
to
work
within
the
realm
of
the
insurance
industry.
I
Arriving
at
a
scene
outside
of
the
four
minutes
is
not
caused
enough
for
liability,
as
traffic
can
hinder
response
time,
but
knowingly
annexing
areas
that
are
entirely
outside
of
the
required
response.
Time
and
distance
standards
set
forth
by
ordinance.
Could
be
considered
as
cause,
especially
since
idaho's
annexation
law
states
that
all
property
and
persons
are
subject
to
all
ordinances
upon
adding
station,
that's
idaho
code
50-223,
and
that
the
idaho
and
u.s
constitutions
both
include
the
principle
of
equal
protection
under
the
laws,
in
addition
to
boise's
record.
I
G
G
Okay,
seeing
none
we
will
move
on
to
rebuttal
from
the
applicant
you'll
have
up
to
five
minutes.
Y
Madam
chair
jeff,
bauer
601
westbanik,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
getting
some
notifications
here
from
the
zoom
wants
me
to
start
video
all
right
here
we
go
I'll.
Be
brief.
I
think
the
only
issue
that
was
raised
by
the
public
was
with
respect
to
fire.
I
have
looked
at
the
fire
department's
letter.
There
does
appear
to
be
a
typo,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
I
think
miss
nelson
spoke
to
fire
directly.
They
discussed
the
site
and
there
was
no
objection
raised
by
boise
fire
as
to
this
application.
Y
Y
Those
are
goals
set
forth
in
boise's
comprehensive
plan,
and
you
know
we
simply
don't
have
the
information
here
from
fire
about
what
their
response
time
is.
But
what
I
can
say
is
that
all
of
the
homes
in
the
immediate
vicinity
of
the
property
were
annexed
by
the
city
in
2015
and
that
adding
one
single-family
home
to
an
area.
That's
already
being
served
by
fire,
I
don't
think
will
extend
service
unreasonably.
Y
We
are
in
the
wui
district,
which
means
that
when
we
do
come
forward
with
our
hillside
development
permit,
we
will
have
to
implement
the
city's
defensible
space
requirements
to
limit
fire
and
and
protect
that
area,
and
the
last
thing
I'll
mention
on
fire
is
again
approval
or
recommendation
of
approval
tonight
will
not
change
the
landscape
of
the
property.
Y
G
G
M
Yes,
I
think,
like
the
applicant
pointed
out,
the
boise
fire
department
approved
the
application
and
you
know
we
just
have
to
defer
to
their
expertise.
We're
not
you
know,
we
don't
sit
here
and
try
to
calculate
time
or
even
understand
that
at
least
I
don't
on
a
personal
level
or
professional
level.
So
I
think
we
just
have
to
defer
to
that
correspondence
that
they
provided
us
in
our
packet
and
for
that
reason
I'm
going
to
move
this.
You
know
motion
forward.
B
Obviously,
I'm
in
support
of
the
motion
I
agree
with
commissioner
finfrock
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
is
simply
an
annexation
application.
There
is
no
development
associated
with
this
application
whatsoever.
B
And,
furthermore,
you
know
the
property
is
surrounded
by
boise
city,
zoning
and
properties,
and
I
feel
that
the
a1
zone
is
absolutely
appropriate
for
this
for
this
piece
of
property.
So
again,
if
this
was
a
development
of
some
sort
tied
to
this,
then
I
think
we'd
have
some
more
scrutiny
to
to
look
at
the
property,
but
as
it
stands
right
now,
as
a
as
a
basic
annexation
and
zoning
application,
I
see
no
issue
with
staff
report.
G
Great
okay,
so
with
that,
we
have
before
us
and
a
motion
to
recommend
approval
for
car
20-16
at
6506,
north
eugene
lane
and
will
the
clerk
please
call
the
vote.
Aye.
B
G
Great
okay,
before
we
return
to
item
four
and
five
we're
going
to
take
a
quick
break
and
we'll
be
back
at
five
after.
G
And
we're
back
so
we're
going
to
start
with
item
number
four.
This
is
cop
20-50
for
anderson
whalen
and
associates
deferred
from
december
14th
2020..
This
is
11
304,
west
fairview
avenue.
This
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
drive
up
window
associated
with
the
financial
institution,
we'll
start
with
staff
and
again
miss
nelson.
X
Madam
chair
and
commissioners,
before
you,
as
a
conditional
use,
permit
for
a
drive
up
window
associated
with
a
financial
institution
in
a
c2d
general
commercial
with
design
review
zone,
the
site
is
located
on
the
corner
of
fairview
and
steelwood
avenues.
Commercial
uses,
lying
fairview
avenue
in
this
area,
including
another
financial
institution,
with
the
drive
up
window
to
the
south.
X
X
The
related
subdivision
requires
cross
access
between
the
two
commercial
lots
along
fairview
avenue.
Cross
access
was
required
to
minimize
conflict
points
between
vehicles
and
pedestrians
by
limiting
curb
cuts
under
the
shared
service
drive
38
town
homes
are
planned
to
the
north
side
of
the
shared
service
drive
and
people
will
be
walking
in
the
area.
X
Given
the
size
of
the
structure,
the
maximum
allowed
number
of
parking
spaces
is
20,
while
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
have
23
spaces.
Boise
city
code
does
allow
for
administrative
lever
level
waivers
to
exceed
parking
maximum.
If
findings
shown,
if
the
findings
shown
on
this
slide
can
be
met.
However,
the
planning
team
has
not
been
able
to
find
anything
unique
about
the
use
or
site
to
justify
more
parking,
as
other
financial
institutions
with
drive
up
windows
in
the
area
have
kept
their
numbers
of
parking
spaces
within
the
maximum
allowed
by
code.
X
G
Thank
you,
miss
nelson,
we'll
next
hear
from
the
applicant
mr
randall.
Please
start
with
your
name
and
address
once
you
unmute
and
you're
welcome
to
turn
on
your
video.
If
you'd,
like
and
you'll
have
up
to
10
minutes.
AA
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
commission.
This
is
jeff
randall
2010,
north
redwood,
road,
salt,
lake
city
utah.
I
can
turn
on
my
video,
but
I'm
sitting
in
my
car,
so
hopefully
that'll
be
okay
and
you
can
see
me
still
I'm
traveling
on
the
road
and
handling
this
at
the
same
time.
So
we
appreciate
your
time
this
evening.
America,
first
credit
union
is
expanding
into
the
boise
area.
America
first
credit
union
is
the
sixth
largest
credit
union
in
the
in
the
country
with
assets
over
seven
billion
dollars.
AA
They've
got
a
over
110
branches,
mostly
in
utah
and
nevada,
but
are
expanding
up
into
idaho,
arizona,
new
mexico
and
some
other
areas,
and
so
they're
excited
with
this
to
be
the
first
branch
up
in
the
boise
area
to
service
the
city
of
boise,
as
carla
talked
about,
they
are
proposing.
America
first
is
proposing
a
approximately
3
000
square
foot
branch
and
drive-through
there
on
fairview.
AA
The
drive-through
is
a
is
a
conditional
use
and
we've
been
working
with
carla
and
staff
on
on
the
site,
layout
and
so
forth.
Overall,
in
general
I
mean
we,
we
had
a
neighborhood
meeting.
We
had
no
turnout
at
the
neighborhood
meeting
and
no
feedback
from
them.
We
have
overall,
are
acceptable
with
the
staff's
conditions.
AA
Other
than
item
number
five
and
number
six
that
carla
laid
out
there
in
her
presentation
in
item
number
five,
the
staff
is
requesting
that
we
close
one
of
our
driveways
onto
the
shared
service
drive
to
to
help
manage
or
limit
curb
cuts
and
driveways
onto
streets
for
the
comprehensive
plan.
Well,
well,
I
totally
understand-
and
we
agree
with
managing
and
limiting
access
points
that
is
typically
on
public
roads.
AA
AA
It
shopping
center
or
retail,
commercial
development
and
access
points
are
not
typically
reduced
or
managed
along
those
driveways
other
than
when
they
get
close
to
the
public
to
the
public
right-of-way,
and
that's
where
the
city,
you
know
steps
in
to
make
sure
that
they're
managing
the
the
public
safety
as
it
gets
out
near
the
public,
the
public
roadways.
AA
So
we
are
asking
that
we
keep
that
we
you
know
we
get.
We
ask
for
the
the
commission
support
and
maintaining
that
access,
internal
access
and
circulation
is
critical
to
the
success
of
any
commercial
business
and
america.
First
credit
union
feels
that
they
need
this
driveway
to
to
keep
their
circulation
from
being
dead
and
parking,
essentially
and
being
able
to
provide
easy
in
and
out
of
the
site
to
get
out
to
the
public
streets.
AA
AA
the
reasoning
behind
that
that
characteristics,
unique
characteristics
of
the
use
here
is
that
america
first
credit
union
on
any
given
shift,
has
between
12
and
14
employees
in
that
building,
and
they
they
service
their
members
by
essentially
one
employee
per
one
member.
AA
In
our
opinion,
that
has
a
negative
impact
on
the
adjacent
streets
and
pads
and
uses
around
us,
and
the
cars
will
now
have
to
park
elsewhere
to
come.
AA
They've
got
to
park
on
the
neighboring
properties
potentially
park
on
the
streets
and
and
that's
not
in
the
best
interest
of
the
of
the
public,
in
our
opinion,
so
we
would
ask
for
the
commission's
assistance
in
both
number
five
and
number
six
and
allowing
the
site
plan
to
be
approved,
as,
as
shown
one
other
note,
the
the
the
commission
or
excuse
me,
the
staff
did
ask
for
the
sidewalk
on
both
sides
of
that
service
drive
both
on
both
sides
of
it.
AA
We
have
adjusted
the
site
plan
to
accommodate
those
sidewalks,
and
so
we
are.
We
are
okay
with
that
request
and
we'll
show
those
sidewalks
on
the
final.
G
G
P
G
Thank
you
carla
on
on
that
too,
on
the
conditions
I
would
be
interested
next
in
seeing
maybe
do
you
have
an
illustration
or
something
that
would
show
us
in
regards
to
the
objection
to
condition
number
five
and
that
connectivity
do
you
have
something
that
you
could
show
us?
Maybe
that
would
indicate
that
pass-through
and
why
it
should
be
closed.
X
Madame
chair
commissioners,
so
there
are
town
homes
proposed
just
to
the
north,
the
shared
service
drive,
so
we
wanted
to
close
as
many
of
these
curb
cuts
as
possible
just
to
create
a
better
walking
environment,
because
every
time
there's
a
driveway
there's
opportunities
for
conflicts
between
pedestrians
and
vehicles,
and
in
this
case
their
cross-access
is
required
between
these
two
commercial
lots
along
fairview,
and
there
is
more
parking
that
is
required
by
our
code
and
the
trash
enclosure
can
be
reoriented
to
allow
for
plenty
of
space
to
allow
vehicles
to
come
through
the
drive-through
lanes.
B
Question
for
staff
carla,
can
you
talk
to
us
about,
I
guess
process
is
there?
Does
this
go
to
design
review
after
us,
or
is
this
the
final
step
before
they
go
for
building
permit.
F
G
Okay,
seeing
no
other
questions
we
can
move
to
public
testimony.
Is
there
anybody
here
tonight
that
would
like
to
testify
on
this
item.
G
Okay,
seeing
none
then
we'll
go
to.
It
would
be
time
for
rebuttal
from
the
applicant.
Mr
randall
you'd
have
up
to
five
minutes,
but
also
you're
welcome
to
wave,
as
there
was
no
testimony.
AA
G
Thank
you
at
this
point,
we'll
close
the
public
portion
of
the
hearing,
and
the
item
is
before
the
commission.
B
Yeah,
madam
chair,
just
real
quick
yeah,
I'm
fine,
I
mean,
I
think,
the
the
this
is
a
cup
right,
we're
looking
at
the
drive-through
use
of
the
facility,
I
think
it's
appropriate
for
the
site
and
the
vicinity.
I
appreciate
the
sighting
of
the
building
near
the
streets
and
then
I'm
you
know
I'm
good
with
the
conditions,
as
laid
out
as
staff
laid
out
in
the
report.
B
Obviously,
and
then
I'm
going
to
let
our
colleagues
in
dr
further
fine-tune
that
site
plan,
I
suspect
that
republic,
services
and
and
the
city
waste
will
have
some
more
comments
on
the
sighting
of
the
trash
enclosure.
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
work
in
this
configuration
anyhow,
so
I
definitely
foresee
some
revisions
forthcoming.
But
again,
I
think
that's
more
for
the
purview
of
design
review.
P
Just
in
reference
to
the
the
parking
increase
from
those
maximums
based
on
those
items
that
that
carla
had
listed
to
get
approval
for
that,
I
don't
see
a
way
that
we
can
justify
it
fitting
within
any
of
those.
So
I'm
also
in
support
of
the
20
parking
space
maximum.
For
that.
G
G
H
AB
You
cannot
hear
me
perfect,
okay,
madam
chair
commissioners.
The
final
item
on
tonight's
agenda
is
a
request
for
a
conditional
use
permit
and
a
variance
to
reduce
the
setback
adjacent
to
residential
properties
for
an
outdoor
storage
facility
located
at
8440
and
8300
west
victory
road
in
a
light
industrial
zone
with
a
design
review
overlay,
the
site
wraps.
Two
existing
large
residential
properties
that
contain
accessory
non-residential
uses
five
mile
creek
courses
along
the
site's
northern
boundary.
AB
A
15
foot
wide
landscape
buffer
is
typically
required
when
industrial
parking
use
abuts
a
residential
use.
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
variance
to
this
standard.
The
planning
team
supports
a
variance
to
reduce
the
buffer
to
eight
feet,
which
is
outlined
in
the
project
report,
and
you
can
see
that
in
green
here
the
width,
this
width
of
eight
feet,
will
allow
for
flexibility
in
the
design
review
process
to
determine
specific
landscaping
requirements,
including
the
placement
of
trees.
AB
Here,
close
vision,
fencing
is
required
along
the
southern
and
western
boundaries
of
the
site
due
to
the
natural
creek
buffer
on
the
north
and
the
parking
yard
to
the
east.
Existing
six
foot
open
and
closed
vision.
Fencing
will
remain
along
these
boundaries,
based
on
comments
received
from
the
residents
of
the
eastern
property
wrapped
by
the
site.
Closed
vision,
wood
or
vinyl.
Fencing
specifically,
will
be
installed
adjacent
to
that
parcel,
and
you
can
see
that
in
red.
AB
AB
Furthermore,
the
design
review
permit
will
not
be
issued
until
these
floodplain
permits
are
issued
and
the
floodplain
issues
resolved
comments
were
received
from
owners
of
both
residential
parcels
wrapped
by
the
site.
The
resident
of
the
western
parcel
asked
that
no
trees
be
planted
adjacent
to
his
property.
The
residents
of
the
eastern
parcel
expressed
concern
around
the
landscaping
and
fencing
requirements,
an
unused
well
on
the
subject
site
and
existing
irrigation
infrastructure
comments
regarding
landscaping
will
be
considered
through
the
design
review
process.
AB
G
AC
AC
First,
I
want
to
thank
city
staff
and
particularly
ethan
and
casey,
for
all
your
help
with
my
cup
design
review
application
for
simply
storage.
I
am
in
agreement
with
the
staff
conditions
of
approval.
I
do
want
to
be
a
good
neighbor
and
provide
adequate,
adequate
screening
for
the
residential
uses.
However,
my
one
neighbor
located
at
83
nineteer,
as
pointed
out
by
ethan,
has
written
a
letter
expressing
to
ask
for
no
additional
landscaping
or
fencing
around
his
house
and
providing
an
additional
buffer
with
trees
around
the
8350
west
victory.
AC
AC
We
would
like
to
discuss
further
with
design
review
in
regards
to
the
landscape
requirements,
so
we
want
to
be
sure
we
have
our
heads
fully
wrapped
around
that
and
as
far
as
the
issue
with
the
water
rights
getting
irrigation
water
onto
the
neighboring
site,
I'm
unaware
of
any
damage
being
done
with
the
water
being
delivered,
but
we
will
certainly
look
into
that
and
work
cooperatively
to
get
that
address
fixed
if
we
did
indeed
damage
it.
AC
As
far
as
the
well
located
at
the
8300
west
victory
location,
you
know
upon
developing
the
site.
We
will
certainly
look
into
that
because
we're
going
to
need
to
go
through
the
design
review
process
when
we
develop
this
site.
We
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
this
is
truly
just
a
temporary
use.
AC
With
our
exploding
housing
market,
we
are
providing
a
much
needed
serv
service,
even
if
it
is
temporary.
The
market
demands
storage
at
this
time,
but
again
in
the
future.
Our
long-term
plan
is
to
develop
this
parcel
and
hopefully
include
the
existing
non-conforming
residential
uses
into
our
future
plans
for
the
industrial
development
which
again
will
require
design
review,
building
permits
hooking
into
city
utilities
and
addressing
that.
AC
We
are
diligently
working
with
surrounding
neighbors
city
staff
and
our
floodplain
engineer
carl
gebhardt-
to
obtain
the
lomar
that
was
that
was
addressed
by
ethan
over
the
last
several
years.
We
have
been
working
with
both
jim
wiley
and
hal
simmons
at
the
city
of
boise
to
relocate
while
relocating
five
mile
creek,
and
we
are
currently
working
closely
with
cody
riddle
to
continue
on
with
the
lomar
project.
I
respectfully
request
your
approval
of
the
cup
and
variance,
and
I
will
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
Thank
you
for
the
time.
G
Thank
you,
mr
salvi,
so
next
I
would
be
calling
on
the
south
coal
neighborhood
association.
I
don't
see
any
attendees
so
then
we'll
move
on
to
questions
from
the
commission,
for
staff
or
for
the
applicant.
M
Madam
chair,
commissioner
finfrock
this
question
is
for
staff
in
the
packet
in
our
packet.
It
said
actually
this
actually
might
be
late
correspondence.
One
of
the
neighbors
requested
an
eight
foot
fence.
I
believe-
and
I
just
wanted
to
maybe
ask
the
city
so
if
they
could
comment
as
to
is
there
an
issue
with
the
height
of
the
fence,
because
I
know
our
the
actual
condition
says
six
foot
and
I
think
the
neighbor
had
requested
eight.
So
I
just
was
hoping
for
clarification
on
that.
AB
Yeah
so
madam
chair,
commissioner
finn,
frock
friend,
frock,
excuse
me:
yes,
it
there
is
a
condition
for
a
six
foot
fence.
That's
that's
standard
for
this
type
of
development,
especially
in
residential
developments.
It's
actually
you
need
a
variance
to
exceed
the
six
foot
height
for
commercial
developments
like
this.
We
do
occasionally
see
higher
fencing,
but
that
was
not
really
considered
here,
because
I
guess
the
six
foot
is
just
the
standard,
fencing
height
and
it's
just
not
typically
seen
to
go
above
eight
and
usually
across
the
city.
AB
M
So
follow
up
for
ethan,
there
was
so
when
I
was
looking
at
this.
This
is
a
pretty
industrial
area
and
to
have
people
in
and
out
of
that
of
the
actual
property,
picking
up
vehicles
or
whatnot
I
mean.
Is
it
your
recommendation
that
maybe
it
would
be
okay
to
go
eight
feet
since
it
does
align
their
backyard?
AB
Madam
chair
commissioner
finfrock,
when
I
spoke
with
the
neighbor
last,
I
think
they
had
indicated
that
they
were
amenable
to
a
a
wood
or
or
vinyl
six
foot
fence.
However,
if
eight
feet
is
something
that
would
satisfy
the
commission,
I
will
take
a
look
at
code
to
ensure
that
there's
no
issues
with
that,
but
I'm
I'm
confident
fairly
confident
that
a
six
foot
that
an
eight
foot
maximum
is
allowed
in
these
industrial
zones.
AB
So
if
that's
something
that
the
commission
wants
to
include
in
the
conditions,
there's
no
issue
with
that
pending
pending
my
double
checking
code.
M
Okay,
all
right,
I'm
good
with
this
six
foot.
I
was
just
wondering
you
know
if
we
could
meet
in
the
middle
or
what
you
thought
about
that.
So
I
really
appreciate
your
feedback
on
that.
Thank
you.
E
Just
a
quick
question
for
steph
ethan:
can
you
just
like
mouse
over
on
your
presentation
there,
where
the
hess
property
is.
AB
G
Oh,
it
looks
like
I
think,
did
mr
salvia
want
to
answer
that.
I
see
his
hand
up.
AC
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
wait
until
I
could
with
regards
to
that
eight
foot
fence.
AC
You
know
I
you
know
I
would
be
up
to
discussing.
I
was
unaware
of
the
eight
foot
fence
being
a
requirement
either.
AC
I
think
that
they
were
okay
with
six,
but
you
know
in
exchange
for
some
landscaping,
I
would
put
a
little
taller
fence
up
if
I
didn't
have
to
put
trees
and
shrubs
around
the
fence
as
long
as
it's
a
matter
of
just
blocking
the
vision,
I
would
be
okay
with
that,
and
I
just
run
the
vegetation
along
victory
and
just
make
sure
we
have
an
extra
tall
fence
around
the
between
the
neighbor,
and
I
I
mean
I'm
open
to
something
like
that.
G
All
right
so
seeing
none,
we
would
move
on
to
public
testimony,
but
I
don't
see
anybody
present
so
we'll
move
past
that
so
next
it
would
be
the
opportunity
for
a
rebuttal
from
the
applicant,
but
mr
savvy
there's
been
no
testimony,
so
you're
also
welcome
to
waive
that
five-minute
rebuttal,
no
problem.
G
G
M
E
G
Great,
we
have
a
second
from
commissioner
blanchard.
I
think
yes,
okay,
great
any
discussion,
commissioner
finfrock
yeah.
M
Madam
chair,
it's
pretty
just
it's
straightforward.
I
think
ethan
definitely
prepared
this
application
pretty
well
and
as
far
as
the
eighth
it
could
have.
You
know
I
was
just
reading
through
my
notes
and
writing
him
down,
so
that
could
have
been
just
my
interpretation
of
it,
but
it
sounds
like
he's,
definitely
done
his
homework
and
and
worked
with
the
neighbors
and
the
applicant,
so
good
job
from
the
city
and-
and
I
yeah,
I
think
we're
good
to
go
on
this.
G
Okay,
so
seeing
then
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
c:
u
p,
20-45
in
cva
20-63
at
8-4-4-0,
west
victory
road
will
the
clerk,
please
call
the
vote
ed.
I.