►
From YouTube: Boulder City Council Meeting 7-13-23
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
Good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
I'm
going
to
Gallow
us
in
to
the
July
13
2023
special
meeting
of
the
Boulder
City
Council.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
tonight.
We're
going
to
start
with
I've
called
to
order,
and
we
will
start
with
a
roll
call.
C
D
E
F
B
Thanks
so
much
Alicia,
so
now,
I
would
like
to
ask
for
a
motion
to
amend
the
agenda
to
make
three
changes
and
they
are
to
add
item
1A,
which
is
a
declaration
for
Parks
and
Recreation
month,
presented
by
council
member
Joseph
item
5A,
which
is
discretion
on
proposed
unification
of
ballot.
Measures
that
seek
to
extend
the
0.15
sales
tax
and
item
5B
discussion,
extending
midterm
recruitment
for
the
boards
or
commissions
that
did
not
receive
any
applications.
B
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second
chauvin's,
all
in
favor
I
think
that's
unanimous.
B
H
Parks
encourages
physical
activities
by
providing
space
for
sports
swimming,
walking,
relaxing
and
many
other
activities
designed
to
promote
Healthy
Lifestyles.
Through
our
parks
and
works
program.
We
strive
to
make
Boulder
more
resilient
through
infrastructure,
designed
to
help
our
community
and
natural
disasters
and
to
mitigate
against
climate
change.
All
local
parks
also
Foster
environmental
stewards
who
advocates,
who
advocate
for
and
protect
or
most
precious
public
resources
or
lands,
water
trees
and
open
spaces
and
Wildlife
our
parks
and
wrecks,
promote
access
for
all
by
ensuring
that
all
people
in
our
community
can
recreate.
H
H
We
appreciate
the
team
mates
across
the
city
and
our
partners
across
the
community
who
take
care
of
our
green
spaces
and
provide
Recreation
opportunities
that
meet
the
needs
of
all
members
of
our
community
through
our
great
facilities
and
programs.
Now
I
pass
the
mic
to
Ali
Rhodes
from
Parks
and
Rec
for
further
reflection.
Thank
you.
I
Juni,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
and
thank
you,
members
of
council
we're
virtual
tonight
and
so
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
our
team
I
hope
next
year.
We
can
time
this
in
person
and
you'll
have
an
audience
full
of
folks.
And
Hive
is
yellow
and
our
logo,
because
I'm
speaking
on
their
behalf
tonight
and
they're,
truly
incredible.
I
I
do
have
a
few
thoughts
to
share,
as
Juni
said
in
the
Declaration
Parks
and
Recreation
month
is
celebrated
across
the
country,
but
it's
especially
appropriate
that
we
celebrate
it
here
in
Boulder,
where
we
have
an
incredible
Parks
and
Recreation
system.
I
That
truly
is
a
symbol
of
our
community's
long-held
values
for,
and
support
for,
Parkland,
great
public
spaces
and
well-being
with
the
community
support
through
visits
to
our
facilities,
votes
for
funding
and
volunteerism
we're
able
to
deliver
a
system
that
is
one
of
the
best
in
the
nation,
from
experts
in
forestry
to
yoga,
to
soil,
to
ecology
and
water
chemistry.
I
Our
employees
are
also
one
of
the
reasons
that
Boulder
has
such
an
incredible
system
and
Parks
and
Recreation
month
is
an
opportunity
to
recognize
and
appreciate
their
expertise,
their
passion
and
their
commitment
to
this
community
I'm,
so
grateful
for
each
of
them
and
hope
that
if
you
see
someone
out
in
that
Hive
as
yellow
in
a
park
or
in
a
logo
in
one
of
our
facilities
or
taking
care
of
kids
at
one
of
our
camps,
that
you'll
take
a
moment
to.
Thank
them
too.
The
community's
support
is
a
gift.
I
We
don't
take
lightly,
Parks
and
Recreation,
as
mentioned
in
the
Declaration
and
from
the
national
Association.
We
know
it
can
be
a
solution
to
so
many
of
the
ills
facing
our
nation
today,
including
incivility
mental
health
challenges,
inactivity,
nature
deficits
and
loneliness,
Parks
and
Recreation
was
created
over
100
years
ago
as
a
solution
to
the
challenges
facing
our
cities
and
we're
committed
to
honoring
our
community's
support
and
being
a
solution
here
in
Boulder.
I
We
also
have
to
appreciate
and
recognize
that
there
are
Partners
providing
recreation
in
our
community
organizations
like
Boulder
tennis,
Association,
the
North
Boulder
little
league
and
boho
pickleball
are
key
to
delivering
on
our
community's
goals
for
parks
and
recreation
summer
volunteer-led,
and
we
thank
them
for
their
time.
Some
are
non-profit
organizations
and
we
thank
them
for
their
expertise.
There
are
too
many
to
call
out
tonight,
but
we'll
be
thanking
them
all
and,
to
be
honest,
we're
so
grateful
for
all
of
them.
I
Nearly
half
a
million
people
visit
our
Recreation
facilities
last
year,
and
we
know
that
in
a
typical
year
over
95
percent
of
our
community
members
visits
Boulders
parks
and
while
we
serve
everyone,
we're
especially
proud
of
our
work
to
ensure
access
for
all.
Just
today,
I
received
some
mid-year
numbers
and
through
June,
both
enrollments
and
visits
through
our
financial
aid
program
are
up
over
20
percent
last
year,
and
this
number's
stunning
visits
through
our
free
Access
program
record
are
up
181
since
2019..
I
This
is
a
reflection
of
both
increased
need,
but
also
our
teammates
efforts
to
make
the
program
better
known
and
easier
to
access.
This
is
also
a
great
opportunity
to
share
some
exciting
projects
ahead
to
fill.
What
the
community
has
told
us
is
most
important
taking
care
of
what
we
have.
We
have
projects
underway
to
invest
in
tennis
courts
and
to
replace
past
its
life
cycle
equipment
at
North,
Boulder
Park,
a
new
restaurant,
an
event
lawn
is
underway
at
the
Flatirons
Golf
Course.
One
of
our
most
exciting
projects,
though,
is
actually
new.
I
Is
we
finally
develop
Violet
Park
we've
begun
Community
engagement
to
complete
this
critical
Gap
in
the
system
and
in
this
project
we're
going
to
reimagine
how
local
identities
and
cultural
preferences
can
shape
the
look
feel
and
function
of
neighborhood
park
that
is
truly
unique
to
this
community.
We're
also
eager
to
be
including
strategies
for
climate
ready,
Landscapes
and
flood
resilient
design.
I
B
B
C
Yes,
sir
I
was
I
was
getting
to
that
it
is,
you
know,
I'm
out
of
practice,
all
right.
Thank
you,
mayor
and
our
next
item
on
tonight's
agenda
is
item
number
two,
our
consent
agenda.
It
consists
of
items
a
2A
through
2C.
B
C
Yes,
sir,
thank
you.
Our
public
hearings
tonight
are
item
number
four
for
a
is
the
review
and
comment
on
the
proposed
site
development
plan
for
New
Vista
High
School,
proposing
to
replace
the
existing
School
building
at
720th
street
with
a
new,
approximately
74
000
square
foot,
two-store
two-story
High
School
new
sports
field,
an
enlarged
parking
lot
and
updated
access.
This
is
reviewed
under
case
number,
lur
2023-00017.
K
And
for
that
mayor
we
have
Shannon
Mohler
here
from
pnds
to
kick
us
off.
L
This
state
law
does
not
further
describe
the
review
process
or
specify
review
criteria,
so,
in
this
case
staff
approach
the
review
process
similar
to
a
concept
plan.
We
use
the
typical
review
criteria
and
focused
on
policy
considerations
in
the
Boulder
Valley
comprehensive
plan
so
similar
to
that
process.
No
approval
or
denial
is
being
taken
on
the
item
tonight.
L
The
planning
commit
the
planning
board
held
a
public
hearing
on
the
item
on
May
16th
and
city
council
chose
to
call
up
the
item
for
tonight's
public
hearing
back
on
June
1st,
so
the
properties
in
approximately
12
and
a
half
acre
site
located
northwest
of
Broadway
and
Baseline.
It
contains
the
existing
New
Vista
High
School
building
that
includes
existing
buildings,
parking
and
recreational
fields.
L
The
underlying
vvcb
land
use
designation
is
primarily
public,
reflecting
the
current
High
School
use
and
the
zoning
is
residential.
High
five
and
public
schools
are
allowed
by
Wright.
The
Proposal
is
a
replacement
of
the
existing
building.
With
the
new,
approximately
74
000
square
foot,
two-story
building
that's
proposed.
The
school
district
has
determined
that
the
existing
building
is
no
longer
able
to
serve
the
needs
of
the
high
school
population.
The
replacement
building
is
proposed
to
be
located
next
to
the
existing
building
and
following
completion
of
the
new
building,
the
existing
building
would
be
demolished.
L
The
parking
area
in
the
southwest
corner
of
the
site
would
be
updated
as
well
with
a
new
one-way
pickup
and
drop-off
Lane,
updated
access,
additional
parking
and
new
bike
parking
at
the
planning
board.
Hearing
on
May
16th
the
board
think
the
school
district
for
their
presentation
and
for
sharing
their
decision-making
process.
They
provided
feedback
on
the
site
development
plan,
including
on
the
proposed
energy,
efficient
building
design,
the
site
layout
and
the
vehicular
parking.
L
Then,
on
June,
1st
Council
chose
to
call
up
the
item
for
tonight's
public
hearing
staff
recommends
the
review
and
comment
discussion
relate
to
the
concept
plan,
review
and
comment
guidelines,
as
was
done
at
planning
board
and
primarily
the
policies
of
the
BBC
P
that
applied
to
the
proposal.
The
one
staff
identified
at
the
planning
board
hearing
are
listed
on
this
slide.
Please
note
that
in
the
interim,
bvsd
has
been
working
to
incorporate
some
of
the
recommendations
that
came
out
of
the
planning
board
hearing
and
the
call-up
discussion.
L
Excuse
me,
representatives
from
the
school
district
are
here
tonight
and
would
like
to
share
those
updates
with
Council
as
part
of
this
item
and
lastly,
in
terms
of
the
review
process,
the
city
is
reviewing
and
commenting
on
the
proposal
per
state
statute,
but
isn't
a
decision-making
body
on
the
item.
The
school
district
isn't
required
to
go
through
a
site
review
process
and
new
construction
of
schools
is
permitted
through
the
state.
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
Shannon.
You
know
what
I'm
going
to
recommend
that
we
move
to
the
applicant
presentation
from
bbsd
next,
since
they're
proposing
some
changes
from
what
we
saw
in
our
packet.
I
think
it'd
be
good
for
us
to
hear
about
those,
and
then
perhaps
we
can
ask
questions
for
either
the
applicant
or
staff
after
they
make
their
presentation.
Are
people
all
right
with
that?
B
M
All
right
good
evening,
council
members,
my
name
is
Chris
top
and
again
I'm
the
executive
director
for
the
bond
for
mbbsd
joining
me
tonight
are
Rob
rice
assistant,
superintendent
of
operations
for
vvsd
and
Jack
Russo,
our
principal
architect
for
Moa
architecture.
M
Tonight
we
hope
to
be
able
to
provide
additional
information
about
the
New,
Vista
High,
School
Bond
project
and
answer
any
questions
brought
up
at
our
June
1
meeting.
The
review
process
with
planning
board
is
a
bit
unique
on
both
sides
and
that
we
have
not
participated
in
the
comment
process
like
this.
With
the
planning
board
in
the
past,
District
feels
we've
learned
a
lot.
M
M
Oops,
sorry,
so
we
we
do
fail
to
design
a
new
best
to
reflect
Our,
Community,
Values,
people-centered,
design,
efficiency
and
Community
use.
The
design
for
this
project
have
been
a
collaborative
process.
Jack
and
Rob
have
been
involved
since
the
beginning
of
our
design
advisory
team
meetings,
when
we
selected
MOA
architecture
after
a
competitive
process
in
the
fall
of
21.
M
Jack.
We'll
talk
more
here
in
a
bit
to
our
design,
iterations
the
challenges
we
faced
and
the
changes
our
team
has
incorporated
our
response
to
the
comments
we
received
from
the
planning
board,
the
community
involvement
and
building
design.
How
the
district
came
to
the
decision
to
put
a
rebuild
of
the
school
in
November
2022
ballot
began
with
developing
a
working
group
in
December
of
2020..
M
So
it
was
important
that
the
working
group
include
voices
from
the
community
as
well
as
people
directly
connected
to
the
school.
In
addition
to
teachers,
students
and
parents,
bdsd
sought
out
members
from
the
neighborhood,
the
community
Bond
oversight
committee
and
larger
Community,
which
comprised
about
23
stakeholders.
M
A
new
building
was
stronger
with
a
stronger
option
in
terms
of
ongoing
operations,
maintenance
costs
and
sustainability
and
Longevity
as
well.
You'll
see
the
cost
really
of
the
extensive
renovation
versus
new
build
new
build
became
pretty
apparent
that
was
more
desirable
and
more
effective
way
to
go
so.
Traffic
studies
feedback
we
heard
through
the
stakeholder
group
as
well
as
site
and
surrounding
Street
analysis,
played
a
key
role
in
evaluating
the
placement
of
the
building
and
the
design
with
that
I'd
like
to
turn
over
to
Jack.
N
Thank
you
Chris
and
good
evening,
mayor
Barca
members
of
council.
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
with
you
tonight
and
share
the
development
of
New
Vista
High
School,
as
we
are
moving
forward
Chris.
You
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide.
So
I'll
start
here.
This
is
the
existing
site
and
layout
with
the
existing
building
on
the
New
Vista
property.
You
can
see
it
paralleling
20th
Street.
N
Some
of
the
constraints
that
we've
been
dealing
with
in
the
development
of
the
design
of
the
New
Vista
one
is
the
access
to
parking.
As
you
can
see,
on
the
existing
site,
the
parking
is
accessed
from
one
point
off
a
baseline.
That's
a
right
in
and
write
out
only
that
parking
lot
accommodates
75
striped
parking
stalls,
but
because
New
Vista
is
so
desperate
for
parking.
N
There
are
about
20
stalls
or
parking
view
parked
vehicles
that
cram
themselves
into
the
site
in
addition
to
the
75,
so
approximately
95
vehicles
are
parked
on
a
daily
basis.
During
the
school
months,
the
building,
as
you
can
see,
is
operational
when
we
need
that
to
maintain
its
School
building
function
until
the
new
building
is
open.
That
leaves
us
the
eastern
half
of
the
what
I'm
going
to
call
the
upper
site.
N
N
Building
maintains
its
operation
under
construction.
Some
of
the
other
issues
significant
issues.
With
this
existing
site.
There
is
no
vehicular
drop-off
other
than
off
of
Baseline
or
off
of
20th.
There
is
no
off-site
vehicle,
drop-off
area
that
makes
it
a
very
unsafe
condition
for
parents,
friends,
Etc
to
be
dropping
or
picking
up
students
before
or
after
school.
We
worked
very
hard
to
resolve
that.
We
also
want
to
create
that
and
maintain
that
great
relationship
to
the
lower
portion
of
the
site.
N
N
You
can
see
on
the
right,
then
our
current
site
plan
and
in
the
lower
left
is
in
the
black
and
white
is
a
site
plan
that
was
presented
first
to
council
back
in
May.
We've
made
some
modifications
since
that
time.
Based
on
your
comments,
you
can
see
the
parking
as
it
was
described
by
Shannon
in
the
southwest
corner
of
the
parking
or
of
the
the
site.
It
has
two
access
points,
one
off
a
Baseline
and
then
it
empties
out
on
the
20th.
N
The
parking
lot
has
designed
has
99
stalls.
We
actually
reduced
it
by
18,
since
your
May
1st
comments
to
help
bring
into
some
alignment
your
thoughts
as
well
as
the
needs
of
the
school,
and
then
the
parking
lot
is
developed
in
a
much
safer
configuration
really
focusing
on
vehicular
movements,
the
safe
drop
off
area
and
then
safe
exit
out
of
the
parking
lot
onto
20th,
rather
than
on
the
Baseline.
N
The
building
pushes
itself
up
on
the
the
bench
of
the
site
and
really
has
a
four
Court
of
a
really
wonderful
Green,
Space
Outdoor
Learning
areas.
Etc
we've
also
separated
a
service
drive
from
the
parking
area,
which
is
not
currently
happening
at
New
Vista
and
that's
another
safety
concern.
We've
got
some
great
opportunities
left
for
future
student
Gardens
that
will
help
reduce
some
of
our
needed
sod
area.
We've
got
two
locations
for
bike
racks.
We
actually
doubled
those
from
what
we
had
preliminarily
shown
to
you.
We've
got
64
bike
stalls
now.
N
I
really
want
to
stress
that
the
the
design
of
the
site
is
really
focused
on
what
we
call
a
student-centric
campus
really
built
around
the
needs
and
uses
that
the
students
have
that
the
faculty
has
for
the
students.
Those
Outdoor
Learning
spaces
are
really
critical
to
how
students
or
how
students
learn
how
teachers
teach
these
days,
and
we
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
this
campus
really
focuses
and
promotes
those
sorts
of
activities.
We
also
explored
a
multi-use
path
at
one
point
during
the
design
of
the
project
leading
from
CU
over
to
this
site.
N
That's
very
challenging
with
this
site
because
of
the
grade
changes
there's
about
a
25
percent
slope
to
navigate,
but
I
do
want
to
stress.
We
do
have
a
handicap
access
between
the
upper
portion
of
the
site
and
the
lower
athletic
field,
and
that's
behind
on
the
on
the
east
side
of
the
school,
going
from
our
parking
lot
and
Main
entry
and
down
onto
the
athletic
field
site
next
slide.
Chris
the
early
design,
iterations
and
early
design
concept
are
kind
of
represented
in
the
lower
left
hand
corner
when
we
began
the
design
of
the
building.
N
We
had
some
very
ambitious
goals
and
and
combination
with
Boulder
Valley
Schools
to
develop
a
a
school
that
reflects
the
unique
academic
functions
in
academic
givings
of
New
Vista
High
School,
but
also
incorporates
the
highest
levels
of
sustainability
that
the
budget
would
allow.
We
looked
at
components
like
a
Geo
exchange
system
like
chilled
beams,
the
curved
building
design
and
the
building.
Actually,
at
one
point,
we
were
studying
sitting
on
a
crawl
space
of
accessible
crawl
space
under
the
building.
N
I
think
we're
all
cognizant
of
our
inflationary
times
and
the
impacts
that
certainly
the
last
several
years
have
had
on.
Construction
costs
have
been
very
impactful
and
unfortunately,
that's
caused
us
to
have
to
step
back
a
bit
on
our
Ambitions.
N
But
not
lose
sight
of
the
goals
for
a
high
level
of
sustainability
in
the
building
for
a
building
that
really
reflects
the
unique
activities
in
nature
of
New
Vista,
High
School,
both
inside
and
out
a
building
that
is
really
reaching
out
to
greet
the
students
and
the
community,
both
through
the
building's
design
and
the
site's
design.
Next
one
Chris.
N
So
some
of
the
features
of
the
building
as
it
is
designed
today,
we
are
again
very
focused
on
sustainability
and
Energy
savings
and
energy
use.
The
building,
as
it's
designed
currently
has
an
eui
of
36.
The
existing
building
has
a
rating
of
87..
We've
brought
that
down
tremendously.
We
also
feel
with
the
building
being
designed
to
be
solar,
ready
that,
at
a
point
in
the
future,
when
solar
panels
may
be
installed
on
the
building
that
eui
will
drop
even
further.
N
Our
lighting
power
use
is
40
to
60
percent
less
than
the
2021
energy
code
minimums
we're
incorporating
systems
like
energy
recovery,
rtus,
High,
efficient,
high
efficiency,
gas
boilers,
DX
cooling
systems,
energy
recovery
or
rtus
Advanced
Energy
metering
on
the
building.
All
of
these
are
leading
to
a
highly
a
efficient
building
from
an
energy
use
standpoint,
but
also
being
fiscally
responsible
within
the
District
budget.
N
One
of
the
the
goals
the
district
certainly
has
is
to
maintain
the
the
building's
Design
Within,
the
established
Bond
budget,
and
also
retain
and
a
level
of
equity
between
the
costs
of
not
only
this
building
but
other
buildings
funded
by
Bond
measures
within
the
district.
Other
sustainability
features
of
the
project,
low
flow,
Plumbing
fixtures,
non-potable
irrigation
on
the
site
and
are
continuing
to
evolve
our
xeriscape
design
and
looking
at
things
like
our
student,
Gardens
and
xeriscape
elements
within
the
landscape.
Next,
one
Chris.
N
I
I
mentioned
early
on
a
real
focus
on
student-centered
building
design,
and
that
means
not
only
the
building
once
it's
completed
its
construction
but
the
whole
design
and
construction
process
we've
had
students
engaged
in
the
design,
Advisory
Group
process.
That's
really
been
wonderful
to
hear
their
voices
as
we've
developed
the
design
of
the
school.
The
one
of
the
major
tenets
of
the
building
design
was
minimal
disruption
during
construction.
That's
why
the
building
is
set
back
as
much
as
we
can
from
the
existing
building.
N
That's
why
we're
not
tearing
the
building
down
until
the
new
building
is
complete,
we're
not
moving
students
off
site
to
demolish
the
building
and
build
a
new
building
on
top
of
the
site
that
the
existing
building
ones.
There
was
all
of
those
are
very
disruptive
processes
to
student
learning
and
really
can
affect
learning
outcomes
for
years
and
years,
Beyond
just
their
initial
impact.
N
So
we
really
feel
that
the
decisions
we've
made
to
place
the
building
where
it
was
where
it
is
to
provide
the
programs,
the
stem
and
project-based
learning
spaces
Etc
in
the
building
really
focus
on
not
only
student-centered
design
but
New
Vista
students
and
their
design
needs.
We
have
smaller
instructional
spaces
to
match
the
program,
size
and
and
and
academic
offerings
of
the
programs.
Here
we
have
advisory
rooms
throughout
the
building.
Those
are
really
small
group
spaces
where.
K
N
Advisor
gets
together
with
five
or
six
students
individually.
We
have
presentation
and
performance
spaces
that
are
not
only
spread
throughout
the
building,
but
are
really
unique.
As
you'll
see.
In
some
instances
we
have
an
art
gallery
and
display
spaces
immediately,
as
you
walk
into
the
building
to
show
off
student
work
and
really
celebrate
the
goings
on
here.
We
also
are
going
to
incorporate
a
history
display
within
the
bill
willing
to
celebrate
the
prior
history
of
New
Vista.
N
These
are
some
of
the
examples
of
what
care
and
craftsmanship
we're
taking
on
the
exterior
of
the
building
in
the
upper
right
hand,
corner
is
a
photograph
of
an
existing
building
that
utilizes
CMU
concrete
masonry
units
in
its
design
and
construction,
and
you
can
see
that
the
different
textures
colors
and
variations
within
the
use
of
that
material
and
really
what
a
kind
of
a
wonderful
articulation
that
has
in
combination
with
the
glass
and
other
elements
of
the
building,
we're
using
that
same
sort
of
concept.
N
Here
you
can
see
in
the
lower
photograph
around
our
Auditorium,
the
really
playful
use
of
different
textures,
different
colors
and
different
sizes
of
CMU,
the
playful
development
of
the
glazing
system,
that's
actually
on
the
back
of
our
Auditorium
and
then
in
in
really
subtle
elements.
Beyond,
just
the
auditorium.
You
can
see
some
of
the
banding
in
the
CMU
we've
carried
around
portions
of
the
wall,
both
on
this
elevation
and
then
on
the
rendering
Above
This
facing
to
our
West.
N
N
This
is
a
rendering
of
our
gallery
of
student
work.
This
would
be
just
beyond
the
main
entry
you
can
see.
It
really
feels
like
a
professional
Art
Gallery.
There
is
a
professional
or
lighting.
There
are
really
unique,
little
Cubbies
for
students
to
sit
and
communicate
and
and
collaborate,
but
yeah
all
in
the
effort
to
really
celebrate
the
students
and
the
ongoings
here
at
New,
Vista
High
School
next
one.
N
This
is
an
image
of
what
we
call
our
student
Commons.
This
is
really
the
heart
of
the
school
and
you'll
see
that
in
a
floor
plan
in
just
a
minute,
that's
a
big
open
space.
We
don't
have
a
traditional
library
in
New
Vista
it
doesn't
today.
It
has
spaces
really
focused
on
student
collaboration,
access
to
technology,
access
to
resources,
all
built
within
the
space
that
just
kind
of
Flows,
In
and
Out
of
other
academic
spaces
of
the
building
Chris,
and
this
is
our
Auditorium.
This
is
one
of
our
really
unique
spaces.
N
Most
auditoriums
you
go
into
are
a
black
box
in
New
Vista
we've
chosen
to
celebrate
our
relationship
to
our
neighbors,
to
Broadway,
to
CU
Boulder
and
instead
of
a
dark
wall
on
the
back
of
the
stage
we
have
a
glass
wall.
Now
we
still
have
the
ability
to
control
daylight
into
the
space,
with
Stage
curtains
Etc.
N
Our
four
plans
are
really
unique
in
terms
of
how
both
program
programmatic
spaces
are
defined
and
laid
out
in
the
building,
but
also
how
the
functional
program
centers
around
that
Commons
that
student
Commons
and
you
can
see
that
on
the
right
hand,
main
level
of
the
building
and
that
Commons
is
angled.
So
it
really
has
a
wonderful
Focus
right
to
the
flat
irons
and
we
have
big
windows
that
celebrate
that
view
bring
in
the
daylight
and
that
student
Commons
and
really
make
it
a
really
wonderful
space.
N
But
you
know
some
of
the
really
unique
academic
offerings
and
these
haven't
changed
from
the
initial
design
to
today.
Even
though
we've
gone
through,
you
know,
cost
saving
measures
Etc
the
one
thing
that
this
building
hasn't
sacrificed
is
providing
the
program
spaces
and
the
academic
needs
that
the
students
here
need
and
demand.
So
we've
got
a
great
Auditorium:
we've
got
classrooms,
we've
got
those
advisory
rooms,
we've
got
a
fitness
studio,
we've
got
lab
spaces,
science,
classroom
spaces
Etc
all
throughout
the
school.
N
It's
really
going
to
be
a
wonderful,
wonderful
academic,
environment,
Chris
and
then
finally,
we'll
wrap
this
up
with
a
look
at
the
alignment
to
the
Boulder
Valley
comprehensive
plan.
N
I
think
you'll
recognize
certainly
in
the
next
slide,
the
support
for
residential
neighborhoods
and
the
process
that
this
project
has
undertaken
to
involve
our
residential
Neighbors
in
our
neighborhood
to
ensure
that
they've
had
a
voice
in
the
design
both
of
the
site
and
the
the
building
here
at
New
Vista,
the
preservation
of
historical
context,
the
biggest
element
of
that
is
we're
not
moving
we're
keeping
New
Vista
on
this
site.
N
It's
just
a
new
generation
of
New
Vista
and
we've
got
those
elements
like
that
historic
display
within
the
building
to
help
preserve
that
historical
context,
design
for
people
for
us,
it's
really
designed
for
students,
but
we
haven't
left
out
our
neighbors
either.
This
is
really
a
community
focused
site
with
a
lot
of
community
opportunity
to
use
the
site
some
of
those
great
outdoor
spaces
surrounding
the
building.
The
athletic
spaces.
N
Etc
really
provide
the
community
opportunities
to
use
this
site,
but
it's
really
about
the
students
and
and
the
success
and
safety
of
the
students
as
well
environmentally
sensitive
design.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
the
sustainability,
the
importance
of
urban
trees,
we're
actually
planting
I,
believe
in
excess
of
66
trees
on
the
site
outdoor
light
pollution
pulling
the
building
back
from
the
street
Edge
certainly
helps
that
I
talked
about
energy
efficient
design,
construction,
waste
minimization.
That
will
certainly
take
place
all
throughout
the
construction
process,
in
particular
early
during
our
demolition
process,
and
then
accessibility
of
schools.
N
That's
one
of
the
main
features
above
and
beyond
the
existing
New
Vista
that
this
building
really
provides
both
from
a
vehicular
Transportation
accessibility,
but
accessibility
within
the
building.
I
think
the
existing
New
Vista
has.
Oh,
if
I
were
to
count
about
five
different
floor
levels
within
it
very
little
accessibility
in
terms
of
elevator
access
through
those
four
levels.
This
new
building
is
accessible
throughout
Chris
and
then
the
last
slide
here
is
just
our
timeline.
N
Now
all
the
way
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
this
timeline
is
where
we
are
today
July
of
2023..
This
project
started
as
a
working
group
back
at
the
end
of
2020.,
and
those
working
groups
included
members
of
the
New
Vista
Community
and
neighborhoods
staff,
and
and
District
Administrative
Personnel
Etc.
Eventually,
the
design
team,
the
architect
was
hired
in
the
middle
of
2021.
N
Then
we
went
through
a
an
extensive
design
advisory
team
process
and
that
again
involved
residents
within
the
new
vista
community
staff
members
students,
designers
Etc
over
about
a
10-month
process
to
develop
the
design
of
this
school.
As
you
recall,
we've
engaged
the
city
of
Boulder
early
in
2022
and
have
continued
that
conversation.
Since
that
time,
we
really
appreciate
the
feedback
we
got
with
you
in
may.
We
listened
to
it.
We
took
it
very
seriously.
M
And
and
that
really
we
just
want
to
open
up
for
discussion
and
questions
and
I'll
turn
it
back
to
you
guys.
B
F
Just
a
couple:
the
35
to
40
million
42
million
dollar
construction
cost.
Do
you
have
that
locked
in?
Are
you?
Is
that
something
you
for.
M
We
we
have
maintained
that
thus
far
we're
kind
of
nearing
an
initial
GMP
right
now.
Our
projections
show
us
in
budget
right
at
about
that
42
million.
We
did
just
complete
construction
documents,
so
we
still
have
about
another
month
to
six
weeks
roughly
before
we
get
those
final
numbers
in.
F
M
Yeah
Jack:
do
you
want.
N
To
speak
to
that
or
yeah
our
our
general
contractor
has
been
involved
throughout
the
final
phases
of
design,
and
we
have
been
looking
at
both
waste
segregation
so
separating
out
waste
from
construction
materials
and
in
the
demolition
process
as
well.
We'll
go
through
a
full
abatement
process
on
the
building
when
an
existing
building.
N
When
it's
torn
down
we're
specifying
recycled
content
and
recyclable
materials
throughout
the
building
as
much
as
we
possibly
can,
so
that
even
the
back
end
of
the
the
waste
process,
we're
we're
pulling
waste
out
of
the
system
and
reusing
it
as
recycled
materials
back
into
the
building.
But
there
will
be
a
full.
N
The
fully
developed
process
by
the
general
contractor
that
separates
out
waste
materials
and
separates
them
for
reuse.
As
much
as
possible.
We've
been
able
to
reduce
waste
by
about
60
percent
with
the
processes
on
hand
and
expect
to
see
that
happen
here
as
well,
and.
M
F
You
and
I
guess
my
last
question
and
that's
just
from
my
own
edification
when
you,
when
you
started
the
planning
for
this
excuse
me,
did
you
ever
consider
the
the
cross
laminated
Timber
technology
for
construction
of
this
building,
which
is
a
very
sustainable
way
of
avoiding
concrete
and
steel
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
just
out
of
curiosity,.
N
You
know
it,
it
was
an
early
consideration.
We
looked
at
you
know
we
try
to
keep
our
eyes
open
to
a
number
of
choices
and
opportunities
in
Building,
Systems
and
structural
systems.
Cross
laminated
Timber
is
a
early
pioneering
system
now,
unfortunately,
there
well,
the
system
is
available.
Systems
are
available,
there's
not
a
lot
of
competitive,
competitive
bidding
within
those
systems
in
which
drives
their
costs
up
considerably
we're
hoping
to
see
those
costs
start
to
come
down
as
those
systems
become
more
available.
N
But,
quite
honestly,
when
you
compare
them
to
steel-
and
you
know
steel-
well,
it
is
not
a
natural
well,
it
is
a
natural
material.
It
comes
from
the
earth
and
ores.
N
The
majority,
if
not
all,
of
the
steel
used
in
the
building,
is
recycled
content,
so
well
we're
not
using
a
mass
Timber,
which
has
what
I
would
call
kind
of
a
sexier
name
in
terms
of
sustainability.
If
you
really
look
at
the
use
of
Steel
and
where
steel
comes
from
and
where
most
steel
is
manufactured
in
terms
of
recycled
content,
is
it
is
truly
a
sustainable
material.
M
Mr
walk.
We
did
evaluate
that
again.
We
asked
the
team
to
take
another
look
at
that.
Even
after
this
review
and
comment
process-
and
you
know
we
evaluated
again,
like
I
said
it
just
became
what
Jack
just
described
yet
again
is
a
local
source
for
that
became
tough
and
then
a
competitive
source
as
well.
B
All
right,
I
got
Lauren
and
then
I've
got
one.
E
Thanks
Aaron
I
was
hoping
you
could
kind
of
run
through
just
quickly
what
changes,
because
you
mentioned
the
changes
were
made
after
the
discussion
and
I
caught
the
bike.
Racks
I
was
just
wondering
what
other
changes.
N
O
N
Incorporating
a
visual
display
within
the
building
focusing
on
the
history
of
New
Vista
and
helping
to
educate
visitors
and
students
on
that
history,
we've
reduced
our
parking
by
18
from
that
initial
submission
to
you
and
those
18
are
actually
I,
think
you'll
find
really
important
spaces
to
pull
off.
They
were
the
spaces
closest
to
Baseline.
They
faced
the
front
of
the
car
faced
Baseline
in
those
locations.
So
in
our
winter
months
the
headlights
from
those
Vehicles
were
shining
on
the
eastbound
traffic
on
Baseline.
We
eliminated
those
18
spaces.
N
The
nice
thing
about
the
one
of
the
nice
things
about
the
layout
of
the
parking
lot
is
it's
single
loaded
against
Baseline,
which
means
there's
only
parking
on
the
right
hand,
side
on
the
north
side
of
the
drive
rather
than
against
that
side
and
against
Baseline
makes
it
that
we
feel
a
safer
and
more
friendly
parking
environment
and
pedestrian
environment.
So
that
was
the
second
thing:
We've
added
four
EV
charging
stations
and
we've
doubled
our
bike
parking
up
to
64.
N
bike
stalls.
We
added
that
sidewalk
path
from
Baseline
to
the
added
bike
parking,
which
is
right
at
the
main
entry
of
the
building
and
then
we're
currently
looking
at
locations
to
reduce,
reduce
sod
grass
landscaping.
That's
one
of
the
impacts
that
our
student
Gardens
space
allows
us
to
do
is
to
pull
some
of
the
sod
out
and
use
some
natural
materials,
we're
continuing
to
look
at
other
opportunities
for
xeriscape
to
help
reduce
sod
as
well.
N
We're
also
looking
at
and
carrying
what's
called
an
alternate
in
the
design
to
take
the
athletic
field
from
grass
to
artificial
turf,
which
will
reduce
sod
but
also
reduce
irrigation
needs
on
the
site.
So
those
are
I
think
those
are
the
primary
modifications
we've
made.
Chris
have
I
missed
anything
there.
M
Worth
the
reduction
is
one
of
the
comments.
Plenty
of
what
we
came
back
with
just
in
water
use
was
was
drip
irrigation
and
it
was
a.
It
was
a
specific
deviation
that
we
had
that
wasn't
necessarily
important
or
that
we
you
know
intended,
but
it
was
something
that
we
took
to
heart
and
we
valued
as
well,
and
we
said
yeah,
we
we
didn't-
do
involve
more
drip,
irrigation.
M
The
the
student
Garden
we're
really
looking
at
Zero
Escape
kind
of
potential
for
that,
instead
of
a
student
growing
Garden,
can
we
look
at
native
plant
materials,
seating
Boulders
pathways
through,
where
it's
more
of
a
learning
opportunity
better
to
maintain
and
again
reducing
water
use
and
sod?
M
The
other
thing
that
we
did
Lauren
is
we
Revisited?
You
know
what
our
cost
modeling
looked
like
for
the
Geo
exchange
and
chill
beams
that
we
have
in
there.
You
know
that
was.
That
was
a
disappointing
part.
You
know
for
for
us
as
well
in
this
is
that
we
had
early
estimates
of
this
when
we
were
going
through
initial
design
phases.
Approximately
you
know
seven
to
eight
million
as
a
premium
for
those
systems.
M
When
we
brought
a
Contractor
on
board,
they
told
us
we
were
a
little
unrealistic
and
low
on
that
and
they
expected
tomorrow
to
drive
up
around
the
10
million
dollar
Mark,
which
then
took
away
from
again
the
the
equity
of
sustaining
the
bond
promise
throughout
all
our
projects
and
the
the
50
plus
schools
that
we
will
be
touching.
M
But
we
we
asked
to
just
kind
of
renew
that
we're
also
looking
at
what
our,
because
you
see
the
slope
challenges
here
right
and
where
we're
putting
this
and
the
the
building
placement.
And
so
can
we
reduce
our
footprint
a
little
bit
and
harvest
soil
from
the
north
lot,
and
then
you
know
use
that
to
bring
up
our
grade.
The
grade
is,
is
challenging
for
the
building
to
make
sure
we
have
it
structural.
So
you
know
reduction
in
traffic
and
and
just
what
we
can
utilize
on
the
site.
M
M
And
I'm
sorry
I'll
just
say
one
more
thing
and
then
I'll,
let
you
go
I
apologize
with
the
reduction
in
parking.
We've
increased
the
trees.
We
actually
have
about
92
trees,
we're
planning
on
there
so
we're
up
in
that
landscape
and
that
buffer
provides.
You
know
just
more
of
that,
curb
appeal
that
you'll
see
there.
Thank
you.
E
Thanks
for
that,
with
the
geothermal
I
know
the
last
legislature,
legislative
State
legislative
session,
there
were
a
lot
of
tax
credits
and
things
passed
for
geothermal
systems
in
particular.
Have
you
guys
looked
at
if
any
of
that
helps
Bridge?
Some
of
that
Gap
I
know
that
they
were
pretty
substantial,
because
there
is
a
strong
interest
from
the
state
Energy
Office
to
try
and
prioritize
those
systems.
P
Yeah
Chris
I'll
jump
in
on
that
this
is
Lauren.
This
is
Rob
Price
assistant,
superintendent
of
operations
we
have
pursued.
Some
of
those
opportunities
continue
to
watch
them.
A
lot
of
those
opportunities
that
come
along
are
not
well
suited
for
Boulder
they're,
looking
for
more
rural
school
districts,
so
we've
applied
for
several
grants
that
the
solar
honor
buildings
looking
at
different
types
of
mechanical
systems,
but
unfortunately
we
haven't
been
successful
yet,
but
I
can
assure
you
will
continue
to
pursue
those
grants.
B
Myself
and
then
Matt,
my
question
was
on
the
site:
layouts
I
noticed
going
to
the
east
from
the
building
to
the
southeast.
There
was
a
something
marked
in
Orange
and
I.
Didn't
fully
understand
what
that
represented.
I,
wonder
perhaps
if
it's
easy
to
bring
that
slide
up.
N
B
B
That's
right
so
there's
that
Orange
bits
like
to
the
east.
M
So
whoops,
if
I,
cannot
do
that.
Jack
is
this.
That
is
this
kind
of
that
path:
excess
here
that
we
have
that's.
That
goes
from
concrete
to
a
decomposed
Granite.
If
I
remember.
N
Correct
off
of
Broadway,
there
there's
currently
a
gate
in
the
fence
right
there
and
that's
emergency
vehicle
access
for
fire
department.
Ambulance
Etc.
Should
there
be
a
need
to
get
a
vehicle
over
to
the
athletic
field,
so
that
is
a
crush,
refined,
Crush,
Granite
path
for
vehicles
to
be
able
to
drive
and
get
over
to
the
the
athletic
field.
It
then
trans
transitions
to
the
concrete
and
then
over
by
the
that
little
basketball
court
area
gives
them
the
ability
to
turn
around.
B
Got
it
okay,
so
the
is
there
pedestrian,
Side
Access
from
the
East
side
at
all,.
N
There
is
not
currently
that's
the
multi-use
path
that
has
been
examined.
Looked
at
Etc
and,
as
I
explained
when
I
was
looking
at
the
site
plan
right
where
the
cursor
is
is
about
a
16
foot,
elevation
change
and
about
a
25
slope,
that's
very
difficult
to
meet
the
city
of
Boulder
standards
in
terms
of
ADA
access
up
it,
so
creating
a
ADA,
Compliant,
pedestrian
path
on
the
North
End
of
the
site
coming
from
Broadway
over
is,
is
really
really
difficult.
B
N
That
access
I
believe
has
an
easement
on
it
that
only
provides
for
emergency
vehicle
access.
Yeah
I
I
do
want
to
stress
mayor
Brock
that
this
is.
This
is
an
issue
that
is
still
being
discussed
evaluated.
We
may
find
a
solution
for
it
in
the
narrow
or
future.
Here
we
just
haven't,
landed
upon
it.
Yet.
B
Great
thanks,
Matt.
D
J
So
the
mayor
kind
of
led
into
where
my
question
was
the
center
is
on
that
multi-use
path
and
I
I
heard
a
couple
things
that
I
think
are
quite
easily
resolved
more
one
was
there
was
concerns
about
having
enough
soil
and
fill
for
the
building
well
Excavating
out
to
manage
that
slope
from
the
tunnel
will
give
you
some
of
that
dirt
as
well
as
we
already
are
near
a
high
school
that
has
a
steep
grade
on
a
multi-use
path
that
is
Way
Beyond,
Ada
standards,
and
that
goes
by
the
Arboretum,
and
yet
we
that
is
the
way
it
is
and
so
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
a
that
should
be
a
limiting
factor.
J
If
we
gain
that
accessibility,
which
is
a
primary
functionality,
be
a
student-focused
campus
and
gaining
that
accessibility
on
the
north
side
of
the
athletic
field
is,
is
a
pretty
critical
thing
and
getting
people
to
think
about
other
modes
of
getting
in
I
know
writing
on
Baseline,
not
that
fun,
and
certainly
you
know,
Crossing
and
the
very
narrow
nature
of
20th
there
with
a
lot
of
cards
is
also
equally
less
fun
than
if
you
have
a
multi-use
path.
J
Getting
onto
campus
so
I
I
really
hope
that
we
can
find
a
way
to
make
that
multi-use
path
extend
into
what
is
now
a
bounty
of
bike
parking
on
campus,
so
so
I
really
hope
we
can
lean
into
that.
M
Yeah
and
we
don't
disagree-
and
that
is
what
we're
looking
at-
is
harvesting
that
North
for
the
soil
and
stuff,
and
then
with
that
we
still
have
drainage
and
grade
and
kind
of
civil
considerations
for
Sheet
flow
and
everything
coming
off
the
neighborhood
that
we're
calculating.
So
we
we
do
not
disagree.
I
think
we're
where
we've
been
evaluated
is
from
what
the
bbcp
States
as
far
as
Ada.
You
know
multi-use
path
and
the
grade
that
I
asked
to
maintain
and
so
I
think.
B
Great
thanks
for
that
Matt,
okay,
so
that
was
a
good
segue
from
questions
to
comments.
Seeing
other
questions
that
people
have
comments
for
our
bvsd
visitors,
Rachel.
G
G
You
know
you
weren't
obligated
to
to
do
anything
that
we
asked
for
or
requested
you
to
look
at
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
That
seems
like
really
good
faith
partnering
on
on
trying
to
improve
the
community
outcomes
here.
So
thank
you.
M
G
B
I'll
just
pop
in
here
and
continue
with
that
to
add
to
the
thank
yous
that
I
do
really
appreciate
the
changes
that
you
made
that
were
very
responsive
to
our
comments
from
before
from
planning
board
and
from
Council
and
I
mentioned
about
better
bike
pit
connections
from
the
south
and
from
the
west,
and
you've
really
done
that
which
is
fantastic
and
so
really
appreciate
the
flexibility
and
then
just
urge
you
to
continue
the
exploration
of
like
that
access
from
the
East
and
I
I.
Don't
want
to
leave.
B
You
know,
folks,
with
mobility
issues
out
in
the
cold,
so
I,
you
know,
hopefully
there's
an
ADA
compliance
solution
out
there,
but,
as
you've
heard
from
us,
I
think
that'd
be
positive
for
circulation
and
such.
But
just
fundamentally,
thank
you
for
the
changes
that
you've
made.
J
Yeah
I'll,
I'll
Echo
and
then
add,
maybe
some
a
place
for
moving
forward.
We
appreciate
the
quick
responsiveness
right
when
you
first
came
to
us.
This
was
you
know,
design
was
100
cooked
and
there
was
probably
a
sense
of
futility
of
providing
comments
and
feedback
from
from
some
of
us.
J
So
we
appreciate
that
you
guys
were
able
to
to
do
that
and-
and
with
that
said,
I
think
that
there's
an
opportunity
as
a
learning
moment
here
for
both
of
our
Sovereign
entities
to
think
about
process
going
forward
and
how
we
can
come
at
these
really
critical
infrastructure,
like
schools
and
communities
like
Boulder,
where
we
can
have
that
collaboration
start
earlier
in
the
process
and
and
I
would
say
you
know
we
look
to
you,
know
our
friends
at
CU,
just
like
bvsd
Sovereign
energy
doesn't
have
to
do
a
thing
that
we
would
recommend
or
hope,
but
yet
they
bring
us
in
very
early
in
the
process
and
therefore
some
of
our
recommendations
are
more
effective
because
they
enter
in
at
the
ground
floor
and
I.
J
Think
that
always
as
as
Chris
brought
up
that
collaboration
always
makes
a
better
product
on
the
back
end
and
so
I'm
just
hopeful
that
going
forward,
whether
whether
it
be
another
elementary
school
middle,
school
or
high
school.
That
gets
redone
that
we
think
about
that
that
earlier
process
to
integrate
the
city,
be
it
planning
boards
and
Community
groups
or
just
bringing
us
into
the
fold,
because
there's
a
lot
of
great
expertise
and
great
ideas
that
all
Center
on
getting
us
in
the
same
direction.
J
In
the
same
Community
Values
that
we
want
to
go
forward
with
so
I
just
hope.
That's
an
opportunity
that
we
see
going
forward
in
the
future.
M
Oh
I,
just
I,
said
yeah
I.
Think
I
think
like
I
said
in
in
my
opening
is,
is
we
have
learned
a
lot
through
this
process
and
I
think
we
have
developed
a
good
working
relationship,
so
thank
you.
Matt.
G
Yeah
I
I
forgot
one
thing,
so
thank
you
for
letting
me
double
dip.
Sorry
I
forgot
to
say
it
looks
awesome
like
what
would
make
you
want
to
go
back
to
high
school.
It's
this
building
I,
it's
incredible!
I
took
some
screenshots
and
pictures
and
sent
to
them
to
some
New
Vista
parents,
so
just
want
to
say,
awesome
and,
and
people
I
think
we'll
be
excited
to
go
to
high
school
up
here.
E
Thank
you,
I'm
gonna
Echo.
You
know
what
everyone
else
said
about
early
collaboration,
and
you
know
appreciate
what
you
guys
have
done
here
in
terms
of
taking
our
feedback
and
coming
back
to
discuss
this
with
us
in
more
detail
like
Aaron,
said:
I
hope
you
will
continue
to
look
at
those
multi-use
path,
connections
and
I.
Also,
you
know
like
the
Interiors
on
this
building
I
think
are
really
excellent
and
exciting.
E
I
still
you
know
seeing
that
original
design.
It
just
breaks
my
heart
a
little
bit
because
it
was
really
fun
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
any
way
as
as
much
fun
and
as
well
as
you
sold
CMU
I,
don't
know
that
I
completely
buy
that
as
the
most
exciting
exterior
building
material,
but
maybe
there's
opportunities
for
murals
or
other
fun
ways
to
make
the
building
really
showcase
more
and
be,
you
know,
have
the
vibrancy
outside
that
it
has
inside.
B
Right
well
seeing
no
other
comments,
I'll
just
say
a
final.
Thank
you.
Jack
and
Chris
and
Rob
really
appreciate
you
spending
the
time
with
us
tonight.
O
Q
Okay,
I
just
unmuted,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
ma'am,
okay,
I
guess
you
can't
see
me
I,
don't
know
why,
but
anyway,
I
apologize.
If
I
should
have
made
a
comment
earlier,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
hello.
My
name
is
Molly
Sorensen
and
I
wanted
to
thank
you
and
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
the
New
Vista
Building
this
morning
this
evening,
I
am
a
proud
parent
of
not
one
but
two
2023
graduates
of
New,
Vista
and
I
also
have
another
student
that
will
be
a
sophomore
this
year.
Q
Q
That's
very
evident
and
I
say
this,
because
the
Boulder
Community
obviously
overwhelmingly
supported
the
bond
issue
on
the
ballot
last
fall
for
bbsd
into
and
New
Vista
to
begin
construction
on
the
new
building
and
I
am
here
to
implore
you
as
a
parent
to
please
let's
let
this
move
forward
as
quickly
as
possible.
For
the
sake
of
the
students
right
now,
it's
not
fair
to
them.
This
building
is
literally
falling
down
it
when
it
rains
outside
and
snow
is
outside.
It's
dripping.
Q
There
are
so
many
reasons
why,
but
students
are
number
one
and
I
know
you
already
heard
about
all
the
thought
and
planning
that
went
into
the
decision
as
to
which
building
and
campus
should
have
been
chosen,
and
you
know
there
was
a
competition
among
different
Architects
and
Engineers
as
to
what
would
be
the
best
design
and
what
made
the
most
sense
so
I
mean
they
have
taken
a
lot
of
different
things
into
consideration
and
I
know.
Q
You
also
heard
tonight
that
they
took
into
consideration
your
feedback,
so
I
am
just
asking
you
please
to
let
this
go
forward.
You
know
they
need
to
have
this
building
as
soon
as
possible,
they're
talking
about
it
being
ready
in
Winter
of
20
25,
and
we
would
really
like
to
see
that
happen
and
I
just
wanted
to
mention
about
the
parking.
Q
As
you
know,
New
Vista
is
an
open,
enrollment
school
and
it's
a
very
unique
education
and
we
bring
students
from
all
over
the
area,
some
of
them
from
Mountain
communities.
They
don't
have
access
to
public
transit.
Some
of
them
have
to
drive.
So
that
is
a
reality.
Also,
a
huge
fund
razor
for
us
is
selling
parking
spaces
for
the
CU
football
games.
It's
one
of
our
biggest
money
makers
for
the
school
and
for
their
advisory
program
and
I.
Think
you
need
more
spots
for
CU
as
well
as
the
Chautauqua
shuttle.
Q
B
C
Oh,
you
did
fine,
sir,
we're
coming
out
of
recess
all
right
since
that
public
hearing
has
been
officially
closed,
we'll
move
to
item
4B,
which
is
the
concept
plan,
review
and
comment
for
a
proposed
Redevelopment
of
4401
Broadway,
with
a
107
250
square
foot,
mixed-use
project
to
include
housing,
retail
light,
industrial
and
art
studio,
space,
Community,
Green
Space
and
a
new
home
for
the
boulder
Museum
of
Contemporary
Art.
C
The
project
proposed
consists
of
approximately
17
000
square
feet
of
Museum
space,
17
500
square
feet
of
at
grade
storefront
commercial
space
and
72
750
square
feet
of
residential
space,
split
between
one
bedroom,
two
bedroom
and
live
work
units
with
96
parking
spaces,
provided
this
is
a
29
reduction.
This
is
reviewed
under
case
number,
lur
20-2022-00046.
K
Slide
so
Chandler,
if
you
can
introduce
yourself
and
kick
us
up,
that'd,
be
great
sure.
R
Absolutely
Chandler
van
Scott,
principal
planner
with
planning
and
development
services,
and
yes
next
time,
I
might
keep
the
description
a
little
bit
shorter,
so
I
actually
have
something
to
talk
about
during
my
presentation.
Thank
you
Alicia.
So
I
will
be
discussing
the
4401
Broadway
concept
plan
tonight.
R
So
Shannon
went
over
this
a
little
bit
in
her
presentation,
but
this
is
concept
plan.
So
the
purpose
of
this
is
really
just
to
provide
feedback
and
review
the
general
development
plan,
including
uses
circulation,
alternative
transportation
methods,
architecture,
environmental
preservation,
Etc.
It's
intended
to
give
the
applicant
comments
from
the
public
city
staff
planning,
board
and
city
council
early
in
the
process,
and
there
will
be
no
formal
action
on
tonight's
matter.
R
In
terms
of
public
notification,
a
written
notice
was
sent
to
Property
Owners
within
600
feet
of
the
subject.
Property
notice
was
also
posted
on
the
property
in
the
form
of
science
staff
has
received
comments
and
questions
from
neighboring
property
owners
and
residents.
There
were
some
concerns
expressed
over
the
proposed
site
access.
The
vast
majority
of
comments
received
we're
expressing
support
for
the
proposed
project,
and
those
comments
are
all
included
in
the
planning
board
packet,
which
is
referenced
in
the
city
council
memo.
R
So
the
project
site
is
located
in
North
Boulder
at
the
northwest
corner
of
the
intersection
of
violet,
Ave
and
Broadway.
The
site
currently
contains
an
auto
repair
shop
on
the
southern
lot
and
a
shopping
center
on
the
Northern
Lots
includes
retail
and
restaurant
uses.
R
Okay,
the
project
site
is
located
within
the
boundaries
of
the
North
Boulder
sub-community
plan,
which
sets
forth
the
official
vision
for
the
future
of
the
North
Boulder
subcommunity
and
is
the
basis
for
decisions
regarding
the
long-term
preservation
and
development
of
North
Boulder.
The
mbsp
provides
specific
actions
to
be
carried
out
by
the
city,
other
public
agencies
and
the
private
sector
related
to
Future
development.
R
It
was
also
the
basis
for
rezoning
of
a
portion
of
North
Boulder
in
1997
and
establishes
the
street
and
pedestrian
and
bicycle
Network.
The
plan
was
adopted
in
1995
and
subsequently
amended
a
few
times
over
the
years.
Within
the
North
Boulder
sub-community
plan,
the
Western
portion
of
the
site
is
designated
as
residential
and
the
Eastern
portion
along
Broadway
is
designated
as
mixed
use.
R
Transition
to
adjacent
residential,
the
North
Boulder
subcommunity
plan
defines
the
intent
of
transition
areas
generally,
as
the
areas
adjacent
to
the
Main
Street
business
area
should
contain
a
mix
of
uses
in
a
lower
scale
of
intensity
than
the
uses
along
Broadway
and
Yarmouth.
They
should
provide
a
transition
between
the
Main
Street
and
the
adjacent
residential
and
industrial
areas.
R
They
should
also
contain
residential
and
office
uses
neighborhood
serving
restaurants
and
personal
service
uses
in
a
pedestrian-oriented
pattern,
with
buildings
located
close
to
the
street
and
parking
in
the
rear
where
people
can
live
and
work
in
close
proximity,
possibly
in
the
same
building
in
terms
of
the
Boulder
Valley
comp
plan
land
use
designations.
There
are
three
designations
on
this
site:
there's
medium
density,
residential
on
the
western
portion
of
the
site,
mixed-use
business
on
the
Southeastern
portion
of
the
site
and
manufactured
housing
on
the
northeastern
portion
of
the
site.
R
R
There's
a
minimum
open
space
requirement
of
15
of
the
site.
There
is
a
floor
area
ratio,
maximum
of
0.6,
which
in
this
case,
equates
to
about
46
180
square
feet
of
allowable
building
area.
R
The
max
floor
area
for
principal
buildings
is
15
000
square
feet.
The
maximum
Building
height
is
35
feet
and
the
maximum
number
of
stories
for
buildings
is
two
stories.
The
rm1
portion
of
the
site,
which
is
residential
medium
one,
is
about
1.3
acres
in
size.
This
Zone
district
has
a
minimum
open
space
per
dwelling
unit
requirement
of
3
000
square
feet,
which,
which
can
coincides
with
the
underlying
land,
use
designation
and
generally
produces
a
density
of
roughly
6
to
14
units
per
acre.
R
The
site
is
also
located
within
the
North
Boulder
Arts
District
or
the
nobo
arts
district.
The
nobo
arts
district
was
started
in
2009
and
achieved
official
nonprofit,
designation
and
recognition
of
the
district
by
City
Council
in
2017..
The
district
encompasses
the
areas
on
Broadway
north
of
Violet
Avenue
and
all
abutting
properties.
R
The
noble
Art
District
web
page
describes
the
noble
Art
District
as
an
inclusive,
Grassroots
Community
focused
organization
dedicated
to
promoting
artists
and
creative
businesses
located
along
Broadway
and
the
adjoining
neighborhoods
in
North
Boulder.
The
novo
area
is
characterized
by
upscale
mixed-use,
new
urbanism
high-end
restaurants
and
shops,
and
a
mix
of
funky
artist
friendly
warehouses.
The
noble
Art
District
creates
opportunities
for
artists
to
connect
with
each
other
and
the
broader
Community.
Promoting
engagement
through
ART
education
and
events.
R
The
community
cultural
plan
is
also
relevant
in
this
discussion.
It
was
adopted
in
2015
and
outlines
Community
priorities
around
Boulder's
culture
and
creative
economy.
While
this
plan
is
not
considered
a
regulating
plan-
and
it
would
not
be,
the
project
would
not
be
reviewed
for
consistency
with
this
plan
during
site
review.
Staff
finds
that
it
may
be
nonetheless
useful
for
the
purposes
of
the
concept
review,
discussion,
relocation
and
expansion
of
the
binoca
facilities
is
consistent
with
many
of
the
community
priorities
outlined
in
the
plan,
including
support
for
cultural
organizations,
create
and
enhance
venues.
R
R
So
the
surrounding
context
of
the
site-
this
is
a
shot
of
the
site.
Looking
North
Four,
Mile
Creek
borders,
the
site
on
the
North
with
the
Ponderosa
mobile
home
Community,
lying
adjacent
to
the
northern
portion
of
the
site
on
the
west.
Immediately
Northeast
of
the
site
across
Broadway
is
the
future
site
of
the
North
Boulder
Branch
Library,
which
just
comes
Construction
in
February
of
2023.,
further
north
and
across
probably
to
the
east,
is
the
Uptown
Broadway
mixed
East
development,
which
contains
approximately
40
000
square
feet
of
commercial
space
and
245
residential
units.
R
The
development
has
mixed-use
buildings
aligning
Broadway
and
Yarmouth
frontages,
with
parking
to
the
rear
and
multi-family
residential
buildings
on
the
Eastern
portion
of
the
site.
Buildings
here
are
up
to
48
feet
in
height
and
Beyond.
Uptown
Broadway
to
the
north
is
the
holiday
mixed-use
new
urbanist
neighborhood.
R
This
is
a
shot
of
the
site.
Looking
South
along
Broadway
The
Violet
Crossing
development
to
the
west
across
Broadway,
was
approved
in
2010.
There
are
98
units
there
predominantly
two
stories
with
some
buildings
being
three
stories
and
35
feet,
and
then
the
single
family
neighborhoods
of
Crestview
West
lie
south
of
that
and
then
the
shiny,
Mountain
Waldorf
School
is
immediately
across
Violet
Ave
to
the
South,
which
is
currently
in
the
site,
review
amendment
process
for
their
Community
or
sorry.
School
master
plan.
R
R
The
site
currently
has
two
access
points
Off-Broadway,
with
the
primary
access
shown
here
on
the
southern
portion
of
the
site,
also
providing
access
via
the
25-foot
Public
Access
easement
to
the
neighboring
property
to
the
West,
so
that
25-foot
access
easement
is
shown
there
in
red
as
shared
access.
R
On
the
north
side
of
the
site,
there
is
the
shopping
center
and
then
there's
also
adjacent
to
the
site.
A
city-owned
out
lot,
which
is
intended
for
flood
improvements.
R
The
site
is
impacted
by
the
100
Year
floodplain
The
Violet,
lateral
of
Silver
Lake.
Ditch
is
also
located
along
the
southern
portion
of
the
proposed
development
and
then,
as
I
mentioned
before,
the
city-owned
property,
which
is
an
outlet,
is
impacted
by
the
high
Hazard
flood
zone.
That
includes
a
portion
of
the
existing
shopping
center,
which
is
located
within
building
easement.
However,
the
op
the
outlet
is
intended
to
accommodate
future
flood
improvements
and
Broadway
Street
improvements.
R
R
It
would
include
housing,
retail
light,
industrial
and
art
studio,
space,
Community,
Green
Space
and
a
new
home
for
the
boulder
Museum
of
Contemporary
Art
or
B
mocha.
The
project
would
be
composed
of
roughly
17
000
square
feet
of
Museum
space,
17
500
square
feet
of
at
grade
storefront
commercial
space
and
roughly
72
750
square
feet
of
residential
space.
R
R
N
R
So
the
concept
plan
submittal
outlines
the
general
style
and
masking
of
the
proposed
project,
but
does
not
include
details
on
materials
on
the
Eastern
portion
of
the
site.
The
proposed
museum
is
shown
as
highly
contemporary
in
style,
with
a
sloped
form
that
decreases
in
height
from
three
stories
on
the
East
to
two
stories
on
the
west.
R
The
three
proposed
mixed
East
buildings
along
Broadway
decrease
in
height
from
north
to
south,
with
the
two
Northern
buildings
being
three
stories
in
height
and
the
southernmost
building,
which
wraps
the
corner
of
Broadway
and
violet
being
two
stories
in
height.
These
buildings
include
glass
door,
front
and
street
level
and
a
contemporary
design
with
vertical
elements,
paneling
and
large
windows
on
the
second
and
third
floors
per
the
applicant's
written
statement.
The
concept
review
includes
three
courtyards
West
South
and
North
connected
by
pedestrian
alleys,
encouraging
walkability
on
and
Beyond
the
site.
R
R
R
So,
just
to
go
back
over
so
the
summary
of
required
modifications,
as
currently
presented.
There
are
some
modifications
of
the
land
use
code
that
can
be
requested
through
site
review.
These
include
a
29
parking
reduction,
a
modification
to
the
maximum
number
of
stories
to
allow
for
three-story
buildings
in
mu2
or
two
stories
is
the
max
reduction
to
setbacks
and
an
increase
in
the
maximum
allowable
building
size
to
allow
for
a
17,
500
square
foot
museum
where
fifteen
thousand
square
feet
is
the
maximum
floor
area
for
a
principal
building.
R
There
are
other
modifications
that
would
require
rezoning
and
or
land
use,
map,
change
and
or
changes
to
the
use
and
intensity
standards.
So
one
is
the
museum,
as
a
use.
Museums
are
currently
of
prohibited
use
in
mu2,
live
work
units
on
the
western
portion
of
the
site
and
the
rm1
zoned
portion.
Those
are
currently
a
prohibited
use
in
rm1
the
proposal
to
provide
30
units
on
the
western
portion
of
the
site
at
approximately
585
square
feet
of
open
space
per
unit.
R
R
So
this
went
before
the
planning
board
on
March
21st,
2023
planning,
board,
heard
presentations
by
staff
and
the
applicant
and
asked
questions.
Eight
members
of
the
public
also
spoke.
The
planning
board
discussed
four
key
issues
of
the
public
hearing,
which
I
will
be
recommending
that
the
council
use
as
guidance
for
tonight's
discussion
as
well.
R
First
key
issue
is:
would
planning
board
support
either
changes
to
the
MU
to
you
standards
or
a
potential
rezoning
of
the
mu2
portion
of
the
site
to
allow
for
the
proposed
Museum
use
so
that
one's
really
just
aimed
at
how
you
feel
about
the
museum
use
on
its
own?
The
second
is
considering
BCP
and
North
Boulder
subcommunity
plan
goals
and
policies
would
planning
boards
support
a
land,
use,
map,
change
and
or
rezoning
to
one
or
both
portions
of
the
site.
R
The
third
was:
does
the
planning
board
feel
that,
on
balance,
this
project
is
consistent
with
the
goals
and
policies
of
the
Boulder
Valley
comprehensive
plan,
and
the
fourth
was
asking
if
the
planning
board
had
feedback
on
the
conceptual
site,
plan
and
architecture,
so
I'll
briefly
go
over
the
planning
board
feedback
on
these
key
issues
and
then
we'll
open
the
key
issues
up
for
city
council
to
discuss
so
key
issue.
One.
R
The
board
generally
did
not
support
updating
the
youth
standards
in
the
land
use
code
and
preferred
a
broader
Community
feedback
driven
process
to
change
the
underlying
land
use
and
Associated
zoning.
Some
board
members
expressed
concerns
over
rezoning
without
a
specific
development
commitment.
Iea
site
review
submittal,
as
well
as
a
potential
time
and
cost
impacts
associated
with
the
required
processes
for
KSU
2.
R
In
general,
the
board
agreed
that
a
targeted
update
to
the
nobo
plan
and
subsequent
bbcp
land
use
map
Amendment
would
be
necessary
before
they
would
consider
supporting
rezoning
the
site
to
allow
for
proposed
density.
So
again,
kind
of
just
the
board
wanted
to
gauge
how
the
community
felt
about
the
density
before
committing
assuming
the
Noba
plan
and
bvcp
land
use
designations
were
updated
to
support
higher
density
zoning.
They
would
only
support
a
rezoning
request
if
it
were
tied
to
a
development
proposal.
R
The
board
was
split
on
the
issue
of
whether
the
proposed
units
would
provide
market
rate
affordability,
as
indicated
by
the
applicant
for
key
issue
number
three.
This
was
kind
of
split
three
board.
Members
generally
felt
the
proposal
was
on
balance
consistent
with
the
goals
and
policies
and
four
board
members
generally
felt
that
the
consistency
was
to
be
determined
based
on
the
outcome
of
all
of
the
processes
described
above
for
key
issue.
R
4
planning
board
generally
supported
location
of
the
museum
on
the
site
and,
like
the
open
space
layout
on
the
Eastern
portion
of
the
site,
they
were
generally
supportive
of
the
proposed
building
massing
individual
board.
Members
offered
a
variety
of
comments,
including
the
need
to
address
access
concerns
by
the
neighboring
property
owner.
Some
felt
the
access
should
remain
open,
no
matter
what
and
some
were
not
concerned
with
location
of
access.
As
long
as
it
was
mutually
acceptable
to
the
neighbor,
several
members
felt
a
strong
need
for
a
robust
TDM
plan.
R
There
was
a
desire
Express
for
excellent,
awe-inspiring
and
challenging
architecture
for
the
museum
agreement
that
there
is
Need
for
more
detailed
programming
for
the
proposed
open
space
and
consideration
of
the
design
of
the
northern
wall
of
the
museum,
as
it
interacts
with
the
adjacent
multi-use
path
along
Four,
Mile
Creek,
so
I
will
be
presenting
the
same
key
issues
for
discussion.
I,
don't
need
to
read
them
again
key
issue,
one.
R
R
The
prohibited
Museum
use
could
only
be
allowed
through
rezoning
the
property
or
amending
the
use
table
in
the
land
use
code,
and
let
me
know
if
you'd
like
me
to
stop
during
this
to
discuss
the
key
issues
or,
if
or
if
the
plan
is
just
to
come
back
to
these
after
I
go
over
them.
We'll.
R
Back,
okay
sounds
good,
so,
in
order
to
rezone
the
property,
the
rezoning
must
be
consistent
with
the
policies
and
goals
of
the
Boulder
Valley
comp
plan
and
meet
one
of
the
following
criteria.
So
in
this
case,
I've
highlighted
the
ones
that
are
most
likely
to
be
used.
R
The
applicant
demonstrates
by
clear
and
convincing
evidence
that
the
proposed
rezoning
is
necessary
to
come
into
compliance
with
the
Boulder
Valley
comprehensive
plan
map.
This
one
is
problematic
because,
as
described
before,
the
underlying
land
uses
on
the
site
don't
really
support
a
higher
intensity,
Zone
districts.
R
The
other
two
are
that
the
land
or
surrounding
environs
has
changed
or
is
changing
to
such
a
degree.
That
is
in
the
public
interest
to
encourage
Redevelopment
of
the
area
or
to
recognize
the
change
character
of
the
area
or
the
proposed
rezoning
is
necessary
in
order
to
provide
land
for
a
community
need
that
was
not
anticipated
at
the
time
of
adoption
of
the
Boulder
Valley
Cop
plan,
so
kind
of
addressing
the
rezoning
criteria.
R
R
So
it
is
likely
that
if
council
is
supportive
of
this
proposal
that
we
would
have
to
explore
creation
of
a
flex
zone
District,
which
is
allowed
for
the
code
and
a
flex
zone
District,
would
require
a
recommendation
by
city
council
that
staff
begin
to
work
on
that
process
in
terms
of
the
other.
R
Rezoning
criteria
is
five
or
six,
which
I
described
five,
which
is
about
the
changing
environs,
is
not
really
feasible
because
of
the
North
Boulder
sub
community
plan,
which
is
adopted
in
you
know,
since
adoption
in
1996
has
guided
the
area
very
clearly,
and
relocation
of
the
existing
Museum
used
does
not
necessarily
qualify
as
a
community
need.
That
was
not
anticipated
at
the
time
of
the
adoption
of
the
Boulder
Valley
comp
plan.
R
So,
given
that
the
existing
Noble
plan
and
bbcp
land
use
designations
do
not
support
Zone
districts,
that
would
allow
the
proposed
project
the
following
processes
would
be
required.
So
the
first
is
a
targeted
update
to
the
noble
plan
to
amend
the
underlying
land
use
designations.
This
would
require
initiation
by
city,
council
and
incorporation
into
the
pnds
work
plan
to
be
executed
by
staff.
R
The
Second
Step
would
be
a
Boulder
Valley
comp
plan
land
use
map
Amendment,
which
could
be
initiated
by
the
applicant
concurrent
with
the
rezoning
request
that
land
use
map
Amendment
could
only
really
happen
if
we
have
ended
the
nobo
plan.
First,
following
the
land
use
map,
Amendment
likely
creation
of
one
or
more
Flex
Zone
districts
to
accommodate
the
proposed
project.
R
So
considerations
for
this
proposal
does
include
67
units
on
a
three
acre
site
that
comes
to
a
gross
density
of
roughly
22.3
dwelling
units
per
acre,
which
is
about
as
about
as
high
density
as
as
the
city
of
Boulder
allows
so
37
units
on
the
me2
portion
of
the
site,
which,
by
themselves,
are
close
to
the
maximum,
far
allowed
on
the
site.
Currently
under
mu2
zoning.
Again,
there's
no
process
to
increase
far
under
the
current
Zone
30
units
on
the
rm1
portion
of
the
site,
with
no
no
process
to
reduce
open
space.
R
So
we're
we're
talking
about
basically
doubling
that
rezoning
to
higher
density,
residential
Zone,
either
rh5
or
rh6
would
require
amending
the
bbcp
land
use
map
to
HR
and
just
worth
noting
that
it
would
be
the
only
parcel
within
the
North
Boulder
sub-community
plan,
with
an
HR
land
use,
designation.
R
So
these
are
kind
of
sub
questions,
as
does
council
agree
that
the
provision
of
67
residential
units
at
an
average
size
of
just
over
a
thousand
square
feet
per
unit,
would
support
market
rate
affordability
and
given
the
surrounding
context
and
the
North
Boulder
sub-community
objectives
for
areas
designated
residential
does
council
feel
that
changing
the
underlying
land
use
designation
from
Mr
to
HR
and
rezoning
the
rm1
portion
of
the
site
to
a
higher
density
residential
Zone
District,
where
the
proposed
density
and
liver
units
are
allowed
is
supportable.
R
Key
issue
number
three:
is
whether
the
council
feels
that,
on
balance,
this
project
is
consistent
with
the
goals
and
policies
of
the
Boulder
Valley
comp
plan.
These
are
just
some
policies
that
I've
listed
that
staff
feels
the
project
is
consistent
with
so
enhanced
Community
benefit.
You
need
Community
identity,
compact
development
pattern,
variety
of
centers,
commitment
to
a
walkable
and
accessible
City;
support
for
local
businesses
and
business
retention,
role
of
Arts,
cultural
Historic,
Park
and
recreational
amenities,
Etc.
R
So,
in
particular,
the
applicant
is
relying
on
the
Project's
consistency
with
the
above
policies
taken
from
section
8
of
the
comp
plan
which
relate
to
arts
and
culture,
as
well
as
the
associated
2015
Community
cultural
plan
and
the
associated
Noble
Art
District
designation
at
the
most
basic
level.
The
applicant
is
arguing
that
the
city
has
numerous
policies
and
plans
that
support
arts
and
culture.
R
North
Boulder
has
become
the
city's
main
area
for
arts
and
creative
Industries,
and
this
project
would
serve
as
the
central
hub
for
arts
and
creative
Industries
in
North
Boulder
and
the
city
as
a
whole,
and
then
KSU
forward
is
just
more
of
an
open-ended
discussion,
feedback
to
the
applicant
on
the
conceptual
site,
plan
and
architecture
so
quickly.
Next
steps
following
the
concept
review
hearing
the
applicant
can
either
proceed
with
submitting
development
review
applications
or
may
submit
a
second
concept
review
application.
R
So
we'd
want
to
just
make
sure
that
council
is
aware
that
if
there
was
a
dab
and
tab
referral,
we
might
be
talking
about
a
few
years
before
those
happened
and
then
a
site
review
application
will
require
a
decision
by
planning
board
subject
to
call
up
by
city
council.
A
rezoning
land
use,
map,
change
or
other
legislative
action
would
require
a
recommendation
by
planning
board
and
would
be
subject
to
a
final
decision
by
city
council.
B
E
Thank
you
and
thanks
for
that
presentation,
I'm
gonna
ask
kind
of
a
basic
question,
which
is:
why
are
museums
prohibited
in
the
MU
Zone
District
like
I'm,
just
having
a
hard
time
understanding
what
horrible
impacts
were
concerned
about
them?
Having
on
their
neighbors.
R
R
There
are
other
mu
zones
such
as
mu3
and
mu4
I
believe
where
museums
are
in
allowed
use.
Also
BMS
zoning
on
the
hill
museums
are
in
allowed
use,
so
I'm
not
exactly
sure
why
museums
were
listed
as
prohibited
when
mu2
was
created.
E
R
Well,
rm1
is,
is
really
I
mean
it's
a
medium
density,
residential
Zone,
but
it's
it's
I
would
say
a
low
medium
residential
zone,
so
the
Zone
District
itself
is
definitely
geared
towards
kind
of
strictly
residential
uses
and
I.
Think
when
the
Zone
District
was
created,
live
work
wasn't
quite
as
as
popular
or
as
as
widespread
as
it's
becoming
now
so
there's,
probably
just
some
some
trepidation
around
allowing
for
Park
commercial
part
residential
uses
in
a
in
a
medium
density,
residential
Zone.
F
I
have
a
few
questions,
but
some
of
them
are
based
on
the
the
staff
memo
that
was
presented
to
us.
If
that's
all
right
to
ask
questions
on
on
that
basis,
first
question:
is
it
possible
to
get
a
list
of
all
of
the
existing
businesses
that
will
be
displaced
by
this
project
and
and
what
they
might
be
doing
that
that
that's
always
something
of
concern
to
me.
R
R
F
Do
we
I
would
think
that
would
be
fairly
important
for
us
to
know
in
terms
of
of
the
the
value
of
that
donation
and
I'm.
Now,
looking
at
the
what
the
memo
describes
as
the.
F
Benefits
of
the
project,
the
the
do
you
know
if
this
were
presented
as
a
67
unit
project,
in
which
2.4
million
dollars
of
land
donation
was
going
to
partially
offset
the
community
benefit
requirements.
What
would
be
the
cash
and
loop
payment
for
the
rest?
Do
we
have
any
idea
what
that
would
look
like.
F
I
can
I
think
that
is
important
because,
as
I
understand,
what
what
is
being
proposed,
the
the
rest
of
the
community
benefits
are
things
like
Equitable
and
accessible
access
to
the
Arts,
as
if
it
would
be
permissible
to
have
inequitable
and
inaccessible
access
to
the
Arts
and
I'm.
Looking
at
that
going,
what
is
that
or
integration
into
the
noble
Arts
District?
F
Is
a
nice
benefit,
but
it's
not
a
community
benefit
for
specific
to
this
project,
and
so
I
want
to
know
what
it
is
that,
since
it
is
proposed
that
we
do
a
donation
and
nothing
further.
I
would
like
to
understand
what
it
is.
We're
expected
to
give
up
in
terms
of
the
community
benefits,
as
opposed
to
getting
cash
for
the
balance
or
or
something
hard
and
fast
in
terms
of
housing
units.
R
F
F
F
R
Yeah
I
mean
it
at
this
point:
it's
still
so
early
in
the
process
in
concept
review
that
we're
not
really
looking
at
detailed
TDM
plans
or
anything
like
that.
But
if
they
came
in
with
the
same
request
during
site
review,
we'd
be
doing
way
more
in-depth
analysis
of
potential
parking
impacts
and
making
sure
that
we
felt
it
was
supportable
before
saying
yes
and.
F
I
will
leave
off
with
the
question
of,
can
you
define
what
market
rate
affordable
might
actually
be?
You
know
I
guess
you
know
compared
to
what.
R
Right
that
that
one
I'll
I
will
again
defer
to
the
applicant
because
I
know
they
have
some
specific
ideas
in
mind
about
what
they
mean
by
that
and.
F
In
in
that
vein,
I'm
very
happy.
The
plan
calls
for
67
units
at
an
average
size
of
100
1085
square
feet
per
unit,
but
since
two-thirds
of
the
units
are
one
bedroom
and
supposedly
they
are
supporting
market
rate
affordability
by
being
small,
how
do
you
get
to
that
average
of
1085.
F
The
two
bedroom
units
would
have
to
be
gigantic:
I'm
I'm,
just
mild
understanding
the
calculation.
R
Yeah
and
I
think
that
that
maybe
so
I
made
that
calculations
based
on
the
numbers
provided
in
the
concept
review.
So
it
may
be
that
the
live
work
units
are
including
the
entire
floor
area
about
the
live
and
work
portions,
but
again
I
think
that's
something
that
the
applicant
would
be
happy
to
address.
F
I
will
ask
one
last
question
and
it's
it's
almost
rhetorical:
I
I'm,
not
sure
I've
I've
seen
a
proposal
like
this,
where
almost
everything
in
our
current
land
use
code
and
zoning
ordinance
requires
modification
to
make
this
happen.
Have
you
ever
seen
the
like?
F
J
Been
intentionally
restrictive,
our
land
use
and
Zoning
for
so
long.
That's
why
we've
never
seen
it
so
so
we
have
a
chance
to
write
that
wrong.
I
have
two
questions,
one
being
have
and
I
don't
know.
If
you
mentioned
this,
but
I
didn't
pick
it
up,
but
Flex
zoning
have
we
done
that
before
does
it
exist
anywhere
and
if
so,
what,
in
what
capacity.
R
J
S
All
but
a
little
bit
about
Flex
zoning,
so
the
flex
zone
was
included
in
a
suite
of
updates
to
the
city's
land
use
regulations
back
in
the
mid
2000s,
and
the
idea
behind
the
flex
zone
was
really
to
allow
to
borrow
from
different
elements
of
the
zoning
code.
So
you
can
pick
a
form
standard
you
can.
You
can
pick
your
intensity
standards,
so
it's
kind
of
a
menu
system
kind
of
a
cafeteria
zoning
is
what
we
refer
to
it.
S
As
it's
been
used
once
I
believe
for
The
Granary
project,
that's
off
of
North
Broadway
I
can't
remember
what
the
cross
street
was
but
allowed
the
applicant
at
the
time
to
kind
of
pick
and
choose
some
standards
in
order
to
get
the
desired
outcome.
So
we
do
have
some
experience
using
it.
Foreign.
J
That
and
then
another
question
I
have
has
to
do
with
interior
ceiling
Heights
and
how
we
would
accommodate
that
and
then
just
for
reference
I'm,
the
council
rep
for
the
bimoka
board,
so
I've
been
in
on
many
of
these
conversations
in
the
early
phase
of
this.
So
in
comments,
I
can
sort
of
speak
to
how
they've
gone
about
this
in
a
really
positive
light.
J
But
but
in
light
of
that,
you
know
having
museums
having
flexibility
for
height
is
really
critical
for
for
a
creative
space
and
so
I'm
wondering
how
does
the
current
zoning
restrict
that
and,
and
is
there?
Has
there
been
any
discussion
on
how
we
can
liberate
or
create
more
flexibility
with
regard
to
Interior
ceiling
Heights
in
in
a
building
where
this
site
is
located?.
R
R
R
If
you
have
a
big
Atrium,
let's
say
where
there
are
multiple
stories
and
then
one
story
which,
where
the
second
floor
doesn't
continue
all
the
way
through
and
that's
a
vaulted
ceiling
space
there's
some
exemptions
for
floor
area
for
that
type
of
thing,
but
other
than
that
the
code
doesn't
really
get
too
much
into
interior
ceiling.
Heights.
D
J
I
appreciate
it
my
last
one
has
to
do
with
about
a
liquor
license
and
are
there
any
do
we
have
any
zoning
designations
that
allow
for
liquor
license
within
proximity
to
a
school
because,
as
when
you
know
with
a
museum,
that's
a
it's
an
important
money
maker
and
use
in
philanthropies
to
make
sure
people
can
enjoy
a
drink
while
they're
enjoying
their
space
and
having
an
event
space.
So
I
didn't
know,
given
its
proximity
to
the
the
Waldorf
School,
would
we
be
able?
R
I'm
not
100
familiar
with
the
state
liquor
licensing
regulations.
I
know
that
we
would
require
a
use
review
for
a
restaurant
serving
liquor
that
was
within
500
feet
of
a
school,
but
I
believe
they
can
ask
for
it
from
the
state.
Someone
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
someone
from
the
CIO
who
might.
B
O
T
Is
it
is
500
feet
and
I'm
not
aware
of
any
exemption
process,
and
so
there's
a
strict
prohibition
got
to
be
500
feet
away
from
a
school.
J
Nope
I
I
mean
we'll
see
where
the
applicant
goes
just
knowing
from
earlier
conversations
with
bimoka
and
folks
I
know,
that's
certainly
something
and
all
of
us
going
to
museums,
understand
that
that
is
part
and
parcel
to
to
how
they
function
in
many
ways,
so
I
think
digging
deeper
into.
That
would
be
something
that
could
be
quite
helpful
so
appreciate.
Those
are
all
my
questions.
U
Just
one
quick
question
which
thank
you,
everyone
who
spoke
previously
for
reminding
us
that
these
are
quite
a
lot
of
changes
at
one
point
in
the
at
what
point
in
the
process
do
we
get
community
input,
especially
the
mobile
home
park,
because
we're
doing
all
these
different
changes
to
zoning
land
use,
Etc,
yeah.
R
So
it
would,
if
Council
directs
staff
to
start
the
process
of
a
targeted
update
to
the
north
folder
sub
community
plan.
That
would
definitely
be
a
part
of
that
process.
And
again
you
know
we
haven't
created
a
work
plan
for
it
or
anything.
Yet
it
would
take
some
coordination
with
long-range
planning
and
current
planning,
but
eventually
there
would
have
to
be.
R
You
know
a
public
Outreach
process
designed
which
I'm
sure
would
include
Outreach
to
all
neighboring
properties,
so
likely
be
during
that
process
that
we
would
get
the
bulk
of
the
feedback
from
from
nearby
property
owners
and
tenants.
V
Good
evening,
Council
we're
super
excited
to
be
here
with
you
tonight.
I
am
joined
by
Andrew
gademi
with
Emerald
prop
Emerald
development,
Emerald
properties,
David
dadone,
with
B
MoCA.
We
have
our
architect
on
deck
and
we
have
a
presentation
that
we
would
like
to
share
with
you
and
we
would
love
to
try
and
address
your
questions
during
our
presentation.
If
we
don't,
please
ask
us
when
we're
done,
because
we
do
have
answers
to
them
and
we'll
do
our
best
to
try
and
incorporate
those
into
our
presentation.
Well,.
V
W
Hi
everyone
I'm
Andrew
godimi
I'm,
a
boulder
native,
deeply
rooted
in
the
North
Boulder
Community.
My
family
acquired
this
site
in
1979.
W
Keep
going
there,
we
are
thank
you.
I
grew
up
across
the
street,
just
North.
Sorry
I
grew
up
across
the
street
and
worked
just
north
of
the
site.
Over
the
past
35
years,
I
have
witnessed
the
remarkable
transformation
of
the
neighborhood
from
an
industrial
area
called
Dog
Patch
to
the
vibrant,
nobo
Arts
District.
My
intention
has
always
been
to
support
the
creatives
in
our
community.
W
Nobo
thrives
because
of
the
collaboration
between
makers,
artists,
small
businesses,
families
and
free
thinkers.
I
am
committed
to
preserving
the
diversity
in
formality
and
openness
that
Define
our
neighborhood,
fostering
both
individual
prosperity
and
sustainable
Community
growth
when
approached
by
the
museum
I
saw
a
unique
opportunity
to
invest
in
my
neighborhood,
despite
the
challenges,
I
believe
that
the
benefit
outweighs
the
risks
which
can
be
addressed
through
thoughtful
planning
and
public
participation.
W
Today
we
present
a
Community
Driven
project.
It
is
not
just
the
vision
of
a
developer
institution
or
designer.
It
is
the
result
of
extensive
Community
engagement,
including
research
workshops
and
surveys.
This
input
aligns
with
the
boulder
comprehensive
plan,
North
Boulder,
sub-community
plan
and
cultural
plan.
W
The
concept
we
share
is
a
stepping
stone
with
the
final
design
shaped
by
the
Boulder
Community.
Our
project
focuses
on
transparent,
inclusive
decision-making
processes
rather
than
just
an
architectural
object.
We
understand
the
transformative
power
of
architecture
in
creating
Equitable,
sustainable
and
Visually
appealing
spaces.
We
envisioned
this
project
as
a
new
Benchmark
for
design,
Excellence
sustainability
and
public
engagement
in
Boulder
next
slide.
W
The
North
Boulder
sub-community
plan
adopted
nearly
30
years
ago,
couldn't
anticipate
the
population,
growth,
Arts
districts,
emergence,
environmental
challenges
or
technological
impacts.
Therefore,
we
see
council's
input
on
adapting
land
use
regulations
to
accommodate
programmatic
diversity
and
density.
W
W
The
campus
is
a
central
point
for
the
community
providing
multimodal
access
to
North
Boulder,
the
library,
Foothills,
Park
Broadway
and
the
trails
our
goal
is
to
establish
a
seamless
connection
with
Parks
trails
and
nature
next
slide
our
project,
our
plan,
activates
Broadway,
by
creating
a
vibrant
street
with
commercial
businesses
and
a
cultural
Hub.
We
understand
and
endorse
the
preservation
of
a
Broadway
access
for
our
neighbors
within
the
site
and
facing
shining
Mountain
School.
We
envision
shared
Studios,
live
work,
units
and
multi-family
housing.
W
We
are
committed
to
preventing
involuntary
displacement
from
its
Inception
and
in
response
to
our
community
outreach.
This
project
was
conceived
as
an
enhancement
for
its
occupants.
We
intend
to
preserve
and
strengthen
the
role
of
the
Carniceria
and
provide
tenants
existing
tenants
the
opportunity
to
return
at
an
equivalent
rental
rate.
W
Our
project
is
a
dynamic
reflection
of
the
community.
It
serves
it's
a
mixed-use
campus
that
Fosters
creative
production
and
offers
various
housing
options
to
meet
diverse
needs.
Equitable,
access
to
Art
public
spaces,
Civic
institutions,
Commerce
and
housing
is
Central
to
our
project
before
moving
forward.
W
There
was
a
comment
that
I
thought
I
could
address
right
now,
which
was
about
market
rate,
so
as
the
site
is
currently
zoned
and
per
the
previous
submission
to
the
council
and
planning
board
for
a
project
that
we
shelved,
we
could
essentially
build
12,
200
or
12
units
Townhomes
that
were
roughly
2500
square
feet.
W
So
considering
that
asking
for
the
additional
density
came
from
extensive
public
Outreach
and
Community
engagement,
that
Danica
will
speak
to
about
the
typology
of
Housing
and
density
that
they
look
for,
and
it
is
comparatively
more
affordable
than
to
how
it
would
what
could
be
produced.
As
it's
currently
zoned
and
again,
I'll
reiterate
that
we
had
no
intention
of
the
museum
being
in
lieu
of
our
inclusionary
housing
requirements.
Thank
you.
X
Hi
good
evening,
my
name
is
and
I'm
the
director
of
the
boulder
Museum
of
Contemporary
Art
I'm,
excited
to
be
here
in
front
of
his
buhari
to
receive
feedback
about
the
concept
plan.
We
submitted
to
planning
War
for
a
creative
campus
in
North
Boulder,
which
includes
a
new
home
for
bimoka,
just
want
to
give
you
a
little
about
a
little
information
about
mocha
bimoka
has
been
serving
the
Boulder,
Community
and
and
greater
region
for
the
last
52
years,
reaching
over
170
000
people
annually
through
25
plus
exhibitions
and
offering
average
250
programs
annually.
X
Most
of
them
are
free
of
charge.
For
the
last
seven
years,
the
mother
has
been
conceptualizing
how
the
museum
can
continue
to
inspire
and
Foster
Community
for
many
years
to
come
for
the
next
50
years.
Expanding
our
facility
is
crucial
to
achieving
the
vision
and
increasing
our
impact.
We
seek
to
create
a
state-of-the-art
facility
that
will
serve
all
equally
from
artists
to
members
of
the
community,
Youth
and
seniors
visitors
through
the
city
of
Boulder,
as
well
as
a
creative
Community.
Next
slide
Sage.
X
Next
slide
our
vision.
This
is
our
vision
for
the
new
facility
and
is
to
empowering
community
Through
art,
and
this
is
achieved
through
four
pillars.
Exhibitions
spark
imagination
and
be
the
starting
point
for
conversations
and
and
challenging
topics
in
our
exhibitions.
Sorry
in
our
community
Arts
education,
providing
platforms
for
members
of
the
community
to
explore
self-expression
and
the
healing
power
of
Art
artists.
X
Boulder
is
the
anchor
of
one
of
the
largest
Arts
communities
in
the
state
of
Colorado
over
200
artists
live
in,
live
and
works
in
the
novel
area
through
the
new
facility,
we're
committed
to
advancing
the
career
of
local
Road
local
artists,
as
well
as
bringing
the
national
and
international
Contemporary
Art
this
course
to
our
community
and
then
an
investment
in
bogus
vibrancy.
An
expanded
facility
will
not
only
bring
economic
Vitality
but
will
be
a
Catholic
for
North,
Boulder
and
Beyond
next
slide.
X
This
is
a
little
a
slide
with
that
shows
how
we
Vision
to
program
the
new
facility
for
the
museum,
the
vision
it
was
shared
with
you,
it's
to
build
a
building
that
will
host
around
17
500
square
feet
total
we
Vision
to
dedicate
around
6
500
square
feet
to
Gallery
Space,
4
000
square
feet
to
community
space,
rental
and
event,
space
for
members
of
the
community
to
gather
and
around
2500
square
feet
for
a
cafe,
slash
restaurant,
where
people
can
share
a
meal
after
their
view
in
an
exhibition
as
well
as
an
open
patio.
X
The
rest
will
be
dedicated
to
a
welcome
area.
Museum
shop,
bathrooms
Etc.
We
ambition
a
sustainable
facility
that
provides
spacious,
efficient
galleries,
that
honors
the
artists
and
are
intentionally
designed
to
display
contemporary
art.
I
am
particularly
excited
about,
in
addition
to
the
improved
kind
of
respect,
is
improve.
Gallery
space
is
the
flexible
Community,
a
multi-use
space
that
will
allow
us
to
better
serve
the
community
year
round
through
programming.
X
As
you
may
know,
since
we
embark
on
the
visioning
of
the
new
facility,
we
have
had
the
novel
Boulder
and
the
Arts
community
at
the
Forefront
of
our
vision
for
the
new
facility
through
community
outreach
and
surveying.
At
the
beginning
of
the
process,
we
were
able
to
directly
inform
how
we
think
about
bimoka's
new
facilities.
X
Lastly,
I'm
excited
to
share
that
we
have
launched
early
this
year.
A
capital
campaign
and
donors
have
responded
with
excitement
about
this
project
and
the
vision
for
the
new
facility.
We
have
implemented
a
25
million
dollars,
Capital
campaign
and
I'm
happy
to
share
that.
As
of
the
end
of
June,
we
have
secure
35
percent
of
the
campaign.
X
Golf
and
Senator
Higgin
Looper
has
recommended
bimokda's
new
facility
in
the
north
Wilder
Arts
District
for
a
765
thousand
dollar
Grant
through
a
congressionally
directed
spending
Bill
through
the
Appropriations
Committee,
and
that
is
not
included
on
the
35
percent
because
still
makes
approval
from
Congress.
Tomorrow's
bimoka
will
continue.
We'll
continue
with
its
commitment
to
serve
a
diverse
audience
in
a
new
flagship
building
that
better
meets
the
community
it
needs.
We
hope
that
you
will
support
remote
contribution
of
empowering
the
community
Through
Art.
Thank
you.
V
Thanks
David
next
slide,
so
I
think
the
community
engagement
on
this
process
is
worth
spending
a
little
bit
of
time
on.
It's
we're
at
concept
review
and
over
the
last
two
years,
we've
actually
engaged
with
two
different
Consultants
one
was
Michelle
Ames
and
Wendy
Lawton,
who
conducted
interviews
in
the
spring
of
2022
to
really
reach
out
to
key
stakeholders
and
understand
what
the
community
was
feeling.
I.
Think
one
of
the
key
questions
we
asked
then
was:
how
does
the
community
feel
about
B
mocha
having
a
satellite
branch
or
anchor
in
North
Boulder?
V
And
what
does
that
look
like
and
so
a
lot
of
this
data?
All
of
this
data
is
included
in
our
packet.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
to
dive
into
it.
At
that
time
we
also
reached
out
to
community
stakeholders
in
the
neighborhood
and
mobile
home
park
owners.
We
also
worked
with
Ford
momentum
and
Centro
in
this
summer
of
2022.
V
At
that
point
we
created,
or
we
did,
a
ton
of
interviews
they
did
in
the
community.
They
attended
First
Fridays,
we
did
a
survey
with
138
survey,
respondents
direct
Outreach
to
a
diverse
range
of
community
stakeholders.
Some
of
you
might
have
been
involved
in
that
and
definitely
the
mobile
home
park
residents
were
as
well
as
the
tenants
and
Neighbors
and
other
North
Boulder
Community
members
I'm
going
to
go
over
some
of
those
Concepts
in
a
minute.
V
We
also
held
a
concept
Workshop
in
the
fall
of
2022,
in
which
we
invited
another
group
of
stakeholders
to
do
a
two-day
charette
to
talk
about
more
of
the
design
of
the
project,
and
so
just
these
are
by
the
Numbers.
We
also
had
a
lot
of
support,
letters
and
speakers
at
our
planning
board
meeting
we
and
we
hope
that
you've
read
all
those
letters
next
slide
so
in
terms
of
these
crowdsourced
Community
Values.
Through
these
this
long
and
and
far
reaching
Outreach
into
all
of
the
North
Boulder
Community,
not
just
the
neighborhood.
V
V
It
wasn't
something
the
city
I,
think
envisioned
at
that
time,
and
it's
in
a
wonderful
thing
that
our
community
has
to
offer
creative
and
collaborative
design
was
very
important
and
that's
why
you're
seeing
the
diversity
of
land
uses
and
residential
uses
and
Commercial
uses
that
really
creates
the
space
for
people
to
live,
work
and
play
have
economic
Exchange,
and
that
density
was
encouraged
in
the
community
outreach
that
we
did,
that
that
creates
the
opportunity
for
more
Gathering,
more
shared
resources
and
more
economic,
Exchange
inclusivity
and
diversity
is
very
important
to
everyone.
V
We
spoke
to
that
showed
up
in
a
land
use
form
as
flexible
spaces
that
have
multi-functional
use
for
every
economic
group,
shared
art,
spaces,
shared
open
spaces
and
a
community
amenity
that
can
be
shared
by
all,
and
one
thing
that
really
stood
out
to
us
is
that
don't
focus
on
one
demographic.
We
really
a
lot
of
people
wanted
adult
programming
in
this
neighborhood.
There's
a
lot
of
that's
happening
around
the
library
and
violet
park
that
is
really
focused
towards
Youth
and
families
and
adults
and
older
adults
were
also
like.
V
Don't
forget
that
these
are
important
parts
of
our
community
and
affordability
is
important.
There
are
a
lot
of
tenants
that
are
here
and
they're
very
cherished
and
valued,
and,
as
Andrew
mentioned,
those
tenants
are,
we
hope
will
be
part
of
this
future
development
or
can
find
a
new
home
and
and
some
of
the
other
properties
that
the
academi
group
manages
and
many
of
them
wrote
letters
of
support
that
are,
you
will
find
in
our
packet
next
slide.
V
So
in
terms
of
the
workshop,
we
had
these
two
sessions,
one
in
August
of
last
year
and
September
of
last
year.
We
really
tapped
into
the
creativity
of
the
community
to
hone
in
on
the
program
and
the
site
plan,
and
so
that
was
led
by
JB
desousa,
who
was
the
architect
on
this
conceptual
planning.
He
is
on
the
call
if
we
have
any
questions
related
to
architecture
next
slide,
so
the
concepts
were
one
of
the
big
design
challenges
we
asked
is:
where
should
be
mocha
go?
V
Should
it
be
on
the
corner,
Violet
and
Broadway,
or
should
should
this?
Does
this
energy
moving
it
to
the
north,
where
the
LA
across
from
the
library
along
Four,
Mile,
Creek,
closer
to
Violet
Park,
and
so
we
really
grappled
with
that
in
our
workshop
and
the
decision
was
to
move
it
up
to
the
north
on
this.
This
Graphics
a
little
misleading,
because
North
I
always
want
to
see
on
the
top
of
the
screen.
V
One
of
the
other
reasons
that
that
is
a
good
place
for
bimoka
is
that
is
outside
of
the
shed
of
shiny
mountains.
So
we
wouldn't
have
any
liquor
licensing
issues
being
close
to
the
school.
So
then,
once
we
understood
that
on
the
the
museum
was
anchoring
the
site
at
Four,
Mile
Creek
really
was
about.
How
do
we
create
visibility
to
the
the
museum?
V
How
do
we
break
up
the
buildings,
so
they're
not
massive,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
view
Shad
a
lot
of
permeability,
what
happens
at
the
corner
of
violet
and
Broadway
to
activate
that
corner
and
how
do
we
modulate
Building
height
across
the
site,
as
well
as
provide
for
parking,
and
these
live
work
residential?
So
this
Corridor,
that
you
see
through
the
middle
of
the
site,
is
where
a
lot
of
the
activity
will
take
place,
live
work,
units,
commercial
spaces
as
well
as
commercial
spaces
along
Broadway.
V
V
So
moving
into
planning
board,
we
were
went
to
planning
board
a
few
months
ago.
We
did
receive
a
lot
of
support
at
that
hearing,
with
over
20
letters
of
support
and
11.
speakers.
Chandler
went
over
that
I
think
we
were
really
grappling
with
some
complex
land
issues.
You
know,
why
are
we
asking
for
things
that
the
code
doesn't
allow
and
I
think
the
reason
we're
asking
for
things
the
code
doesn't
allow
is
because
that's
what
the
community
has
asked
us
to
ask
for.
V
So
this
is
really
a
Community
Driven
process
and
bimoka,
as
the
anchor
tenant
really
allows
the
rest
of
it
to
happen
again.
North
Boulder
sub-community
plan
was
I,
think
from
1995.
It
didn't
Envision
the
arts
district
that
has
emerged
there
today,
nor
the
vibrancy
that
is
coming,
especially
with
the
library
and
other
things
that
have
really
anchored
North
Boulder
next
slide.
V
Here's
some
of
the
examples
of
the
letters
of
support
that
we
received.
It
was
a
broad
group
of
people
from
Neighbors
to
tenants
to
business
owners
to
artists
to
architects.
We
worked
closely
with
CU
on
on
the
charette.
They
had
a
lot
of
insight
into
the
design,
design
and
planning
Library
Foundation,
our
neighbors
shiny,
Mountain
Waldorf
School
is
a
very
important
Ponderosa
mobile
home
park.
Etc
next
slide,
and
with
that
I'll
conclude
I
I,
just
I
wanted
to
try
and
answer
the
question.
W
Before
you
finish,
I'd
like
to
just
make
one
point
clear
which
I
believe
everyone
knows,
but
I
wanted
to
reiterate,
so
our
goal
is
to
come
to
you
with
you
know,
questions
and
input,
and
the
reason
we're
not
discussing
architecture
is
because
that's
to
be
determined
once
we're
able
to
sort
the
programming
and
planning
challenges
of
this
project.
Our
goal
is
to
launch
a
design
competition
in
order
to
move
to
the
next
phase.
Thank
you
thanks.
V
Andrew,
yes,
we
went
light
on
the
architecture
to
focus
on
the
program.
I
think
you
have
a
lot
of
policy
questions
that
Chandler
has
put
forth
and
that's
what
we
hope
will
give.
V
We
can
have
the
discussion
around
to
see
if
this
is
the
right
type
of
use
and
density
and
mix
of
uses
and
Synergy
that
we're
looking
for
in
our
community,
which
would
allow
us
the
opportunity
to
move
forward
and
just
to
add
on
to
that
I
think
we
talked
a
lot
about
the
community
engagement
I
hope
that
you
look
through
all
of
that
work.
That
has
been
done
if
the
decision
were
to
be
made
to
do
a
update
to
the
North
Boulder
subcommute
plan,
I
believe
we
can
build
on
a
lot
of
that
work.
V
B
G
I
have
just
one
that
that's
not
responsive
to
what
you
just
said.
You
hoped
we
would
focus
on
Danica,
so
please
bear
with
me,
but
this
re.
This
concept
reminds
me
a
little
bit
of
looking
at
the
the
North
Boulder
Library
concept
and
being
a
real.
You
know,
sort
of
central
for
North
Boulder
Community
space,
and
so
that
made
me
wonder,
have
you
engaged
growing
up,
Boulder
or
engaged
kids
specifically
I
understand
that
waldoor
students
probably
have
been
involved,
but
are
you
looking
at
that.
V
Absolutely-
and
we
did-
we've
worked
directly
with
the
library
and
merriments
are
with
growing
up
Boulder.
We
haven't
done
specific
engagement
with
with
youth,
but
that
would
definitely
be
part
of
our
program
moving
forward
as
we
look
at
the
site
planning
and
the
engagement
of
the
public
spaces
Etc.
So
that
is
very
much
a
part
of
our
goal
and
we
have
in
we
have
engaged
with
the
experts
on
Youth
and
I.
Think
I
know
that
bimoka
does
an
amazing
amount
of
Youth
engagement,
I
I,
actually,
probably
at
the
First
Fridays.
X
That
yeah
correct.
Thank
you
Rachel
for
that
question.
Yes,
we
haven't
done
any
engagement,
but
we
believe
that
you
know
if
the
direction
of
council
is
to
continue
exploring
this
option
figure
out.
How
can
we
fit
the
museum
on
that
side?
There's
a
lot
of
more
community
outreach
that
we
want
to
do
we're
really
committed
to
serving
the
community
and
and
I
feel
very
strong
about
engaging
youth
because
they're
going
to
be
the
future
stewards
of
the
organization.
B
All
right,
seeing
out
there
Mark
I,
figured
you'd,
have
something
you're,
muted,
I.
F
Just
want
to
ask
a
couple
of
the
questions
that
that
staff
could
not
answer,
and
the
first
is
what
is
the
support
for
the
value
of
the
land
donation.
W
I
can
I
can
answer
that
question
so
because
we
don't
have
an
official
design,
we're
unable
to
get
an
assessment.
W
What
we
did
do
is
we
took
the
land
value
of
the
Armory
and
how
it
transaction
acted
as
well
as
a
project
that
recently
went
to
to
planning
board
on
20th
and
Spruce
and
other
current
market
rates.
That's
in
order
to
calculate
that
land
value
I
think
the
land
value
that
is
listed
in
your
packet
is
something
around
two
million
dollars.
That
is
a
number
from
2008.
W
W
Yes,
so
our
plan
is
to
submit
the
submit
both
the
museum
and
the
entire
sites
development
through
One
Singular
process,
and
we
would
require
a
third
party
assessment
in
order
to
do
the
land
donation
to
the
museum
and.
F
The
other
question
my
last
question
is
simply
again
with
the
parking
reductions.
Have
you
done
any
kind
of
study
that
that
will
demonstrate
the
adequacy
of
the
parking
spaces
for
both
the
museum
clientele
and
the
residents.
W
Yes,
we
did
some
preliminary
design
studies
and
we
looked
at
what
the
current
parking
requirements
are
for
the
museum
and
what
their
peak
hours
of
operation.
W
We
also
have
had
some
preliminary
conversations
about
off-site
or
sharing
agreements
for
off-site
parking.
When
there
is,
you
know
an
event.
F
Will
there
be,
will
the
residents
have
designated
spots.
V
It's
the
share
parking
throughout
the
site,
yes
and
I
think
we're
at
a
25
parking
reduction.
We
think
there's
a
lot
of
shared
parking
between
the
two
uses
and
and
talking
with
shiny
Mountain,
Wilder
school
and
I've
worked
previously
with
them.
There's
there's
actually
a
lot
of
access
Park
in
the
neighborhood.
V
If
there
was
a
larger
event,
but
we
think
the
parking
is
adequate
for
to
serve
the
day-to-day
uses
for
both
of
those
and
there's
a
really
nice
Synergy
between
the
residential
and
Museum
uses
yep
and
on
addition,
W
was
probably
going
to
say
this,
but
we
also
took
into
account
the
parking
use
usages
of
the
current
Museum
I
believe,
there's
very
little
parking
with
the
current
Museum.
It's
a
lot
of
street
parking
and
so
we're
we're.
V
You
know
we're
using
that
data
as
well
to
look
at
what
the
right
amount
of
parking
is
on
the
site.
F
X
I
mean
I
would
add
Mark
to
to
this.
That
comment
is
that
the
museum
regularly
it's
not
going
to
be
open
at
night
for
functions
or
forces
to
be
showcasing
the
exhibitions.
So
there
are
some
synergies.
While
we
are
open,
some
residents
are
going
to
be
working
remotely
or
working
from
office,
so
we'll
be
commuting,
and
while
we
are
close,
residents
will
come
back
to
and
park
their
their
vehicles
on
on
some
empty
spaces
that
we
will
be
vacating.
Okay,.
E
Thank
you
and
I
also
had
a
couple
that
just
to
follow
up
on
that
were
brought
up
earlier,
so
there
was
Let's
see
we
talked
about
the
average
square
footage
size
of
the
units
as
being
about
a
thousand
which
I
understand.
Is
you
know
what
the
buy
right
project
would
the
units
could
be
two
and
a
half
times
as
big
or
something
like
that,
but
I
guess
I
was
wondering
how
you
ended
up
there
like
could
if
we
allowed
more
units,
would
you
do
slightly
smaller
units,
or
are
you
feeling
like
really?
W
I
can
answer
that
I
think
right
now,
it's
an
open
dialogue.
This
is
something
that's
proposed.
We
tried
to
provide
a
variety
of
different
unit
mixes
from
the
community
engagement.
We
heard
that
affordability
meant
to
some
community
members
that
they
could
live
and
work
in
the
same
space
for
other
people.
W
It
meant
that
they
could
rent
a
shared,
Art
Studio
space
below
and
have
a
smaller
unit
for
themselves,
the
the
notion
that
they
could
potentially
have
a
place
where
they
could
both
live
and
produce
became
more
affordable
for
some
people
rather
than
needing
to
rent
their
own
space.
So
this
is
a
preliminary
mix
that
we're
proposing
but
definitely
open
to
hearing
the
city's
feedback
on
that.
X
And
just
to
compliment
on
what
Andrew
said,
I
think
from
the
museum
perspective
and
the
conversations
we
had
with
artists
and
supporters.
Everyone
is
really
excited
about
how
can
be
MoCA,
also
partner,
with
the
developer
on
on
providing
some
Studio
space
or
work
leap.
Space
as
as
Andrew
is
in
in
partnership
with
the
developer
might
be,
and
possibly
subsidized
foreign.
E
Thank
you
and
then
for
the
floor
area.
I
know
there
was
some
discussion
about
floor
to
floor
Heights,
and
things
like
that.
You
know
over
a
certain
height
in
Boulder,
the
floor
area
counts.
Double
I
was
just
wondering
if
that's
been
taken
into
account
with
sort
of
the
floor
areas
that
we're
at
already
or
depending
on
how
things
pan
out
is
it.
Is
there
potentially
more
floor
area
because
of
the
way
those
calculations
work
out?
X
Oh
okay,
yeah
I,
think
the
the
vision
is
you
know,
and
and
that's
again
once
we
kind
of
finalize
the
programming
and
where
the
galleries
will
go,
they
will
be
in
the
first
floor.
Second
floor
would
be
to
kind
of
design.
You
know,
ceilings
that
are
more
contemporary.
Our
current
our
current
ceilings,
are
somewhere
around
12
feet.
X
We
would
like
to
be
somewhere
around
18
to
20
feet
on
the
first
floor,
if
galleries
are
are
programmed
on
on
the
first
floor
and
and
then
lower
a
little
lower
floors
on
the
second
sorry
lower
ceilings.
On
the
second
floor
and
on
the
third
floor,
this
kind
of
rooftop
audio.
But
again
this
is
dependent
on
how
the
architect
that
we
will
visit,
we
will
be
selecting
through
a
competition
process,
will
recommend
the
best
programming
for
the
museum
space.
D
Thanks
Aaron
for
one,
it's
good
to
see
you.
J
Guys,
as
always
in
a
different
light,
usually
we're
in
the
studio
of
of
B
mocha
having
this
good
conversation
and
I'm
glad
everyone
gets
to
see
where
we're
at.
With
this.
My
question
centers
around
this
Flex
zoning
concept,
which
you
know
we
we
haven't
done
much
of,
but
as
we've
seen,
there
seems
to
be
a
a
roadblock
and
a
barricade
to
achieve
what
has
been
an
intentional
Vision
to
meet
the
needs
of
our
Arts
Community,
while
also
being
transformative.
J
At
the
same
time
right
that's
been
a
core
concept
and
goal
of
this
from
the
beginning.
So
my
question
is:
if
we
were
to
sort
of
go
and
as
we
heard
from
Chandler
in
a
flex
zoning
you,
we
have
the
chance
to
kind
of
pick
and
choose
from
various
different
things,
a
bunch
of
parameters
that
meet
sort
of
the
need
and
aspirational
goals
of
this
project.
J
Is
there
something
in
in
in
sort
of
aspirational
that
you've
wanted
to
do,
but
have
kind
of
just
shelved
it,
because
it
seemed
impossible
given
the
current
set
of
limitations
and
so
I'm
kind
of
curious?
If,
if
this
is
how
we
can
really
make
this
the
transformative
anchor
to
complement
the
North
Boulder
Library
in
the
North,
Boulder,
Arts
District,
so
I'm
just
sort
of
curious,
if
there's
something
you
just
go,
oh
my
gosh.
With
this
thing
we
could.
We
could
really
do
this,
but
that's
just
been
an
impossibility.
Given
the
current
restrictions,
foreign.
W
There
I
think
that's
something
that
we
face
constantly
in
North
Boulder
we
own
and
manage
you
know
several
hundred
units
that
are
full
of
mechanics
but
also
artists
and
we're
constantly
confronted
with
limitations
on
what
people
can
do,
and
so
the
combination
of
live
works
but
works
being
more
broadly
defined,
or
you
know,
even
a
mixture
of
that
within
a
more
industrial
uses
with
with
residential
within
this
space,
I
think
could
lead
to
more
transformative,
work
or
creative
production,
and
then
this
isn't
something
for
us,
but
liquor
licensing
or
the
liquor.
V
And
I
think
to
further
answer
your
question.
Matt.
We
also
took
what
the
what
we
heard
from
the
community
and
what
the
vision
was,
and
we
put
it
Forward,
knowing
that
it
doesn't
meet
the
the
zoning
code
as
we
know
it,
and
so
that's
a
risk,
but
we
know
that
we
had
support,
and
this
is
a
really
Dynamic
mixed-use
project
which
fits
in
really
well
with
the
neighborhood
versus
the
previous
proposal
and
was
a
you
know,
these
large
2500
3000
square
foot
luxury
condos
with
garages.
V
So
that's
what
the
zoning
wants
and
we're
we're
going
for
something
else,
and
we
really
hope
that
we
can
have
this
discussion
on
how
to
get
there
with.
We
do
think
we
have
support
from
the
community
and
the
neighbors
and
a
lot
of
the
stakeholders,
but
it
it
is
a
com.
You
know
this
is
a
risk
to
put
someone
something
forward
that
doesn't
conform
to
the
zoning.
I
personally
sit
in
a
lot
of
these
meetings
and
sit
in
a
lot
of
these
discussion,
Community
discussions-
and
this
is
what
the
community
says
they
want.
V
V
So
we
looked
at
the
idea
of
these
larger
units
and
you
would
just
I
think
what
was
it
90
000
square
feet
of
this
three
Acre
Site
would
be
which
I
think
if
I'm
doing
my
math
right
is
almost
two
two-thirds
of
the
site
would
be
open
space,
which
is
just
kind
of
Lawns
and
grass
and
private
yards,
so
we're
bucking
up
against
those
open
space
requirements
and
other
things
that
I
know
we're
all
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
Grapple
with
so
we
thought
we'd
go
we'd,
go
for
it,
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
we
didn't
put
on
the
table
that
I
think
this
is.
V
This
feels
like
a
really
good,
solid,
Community,
Driven
proposal.
U
My
question
is:
is
David
for
just
one
sentence:
you
talked
about
affordable
space.
That
was
subsidized
for
artists
and
creatives.
Do
you
have
more,
you
want
to
say
about
that?
Or
is
it
just
too
early.
X
I
think
it's
a
little
too
early
I
mean
from
the
initial
conversations
that
we
have
with
funders
and
people
who
had
made
pledges.
They
are
all
in
interested
in
how
can
be
MoCA
provides
some
additional
space
or
residency
and
legal
workspace
for
artists,
I.
Think
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
still
need
to
talk,
and
we
need
to
further
discuss
this.
X
How
can
we
make
it
possible,
in
partnership
with
with
Andrew
underdevelop,
which
is
the
developer
so,
and
he
and
I
we've
been
having
conversations
and
we
are
figuring
out
a
way
to
bring
the
solution
if
this
is
something
that
that
Council
fills
is
is
an
opportunity
and
I?
Think
both
of
us
are
are
excited
about
the
opportunity
and
I
I
I
can
say
that
Andrew.
X
W
I
just
would
like
to
add
one
more
point,
which
is
you
know,
as
I
mentioned
I'm
from
this
neighborhood
and
I've,
seen
it
transform
my
whole
life
and
I
have
been
really
reluctant
to
think
about
a
future
for
these
sites
as
as
the
buildings
age,
and
need
to
be
replaced
largely
because
of
the
informal
nature
that
defines
North
Boulder
and
what
makes
it
unique,
I
think
often
what
you
see
when
things
get
developed
is
it
loses.
W
You
know,
touch
with
the
community
that
once
was
there
and
so
in
thinking
about
the
museum
and
a
cultural
anchor
to
define
the
neighborhood
I've
also
thought
a
lot
about
how
to
prevent
people
from
being
priced
out
from
both
living
and
working
there.
W
Because
the
moment
that
happens,
the
neighborhood
loses
its
character
and
you
know,
and
it
loses
what
the
intention
of
this
was
for,
and
that
comes
from
shared
workspaces
that
comes
from
live
works
that
comes
from
intense
Community
engagement,
but
really
trying
to
create
something
where
people
within
the
community
can
can
come
back
to
and
we've
seen
it
on
our
properties.
People
rent
out
these
huge
spaces
and
then
form
collectives
for
themselves
and
I
think
that
has
been
like
what
has
catalyzed
this
neighborhood
into
the
arts
district.
W
It's
it's
not
development,
right,
it's
the
lack
of
development,
so
how?
If
we
are
to
develop,
can
we
ensure
that
we
create
this
space
for
people
to
continue
to
create
and
iterate
without
it
being?
You
know,
a
pretentious
gentrifying,
Force.
B
B
That's
my
tees
this
time
and
we
will
come
back
to
council
for
a
discussion
so
Chandler.
If
we
could
get
the
key
issues
up,
please
I
think
it's
time
to
go
through
those.
B
And
so
Alicia
has
just
put
them
in
the
chat.
Maybe
we
can
just
read
them
from
the
chat
so
that
we
can
see
each
other's
faces
rather
than
having
the
presentation
up.
So
I
will
read
the
thanks
for
that
English.
The
first
key
issue
is:
would
city
council
support
either
changes
to
the
mu2u
standards
or
a
potential
rezoning
of
the
mu2
portion
of
the
site
to
allow
for
the
proposed
Museum
use
and
would
Council
recommend
a
flex
zone
designation
if
appropriate?
Y
Bob
then
Matt,
my
answer
is
yes:
I
I'm,
someone,
agnostic
and
I
would
defer
to
staff
on
which
process
to
use,
but
I
I
think
it
was
Lauren.
That
asked
a
really
good
question,
which
is
why
our
museum
is
not
allowed
to
Know
YouTube.
Are
there
allowed
in
other
mu
districts?
Y
It
doesn't
sound
like
there's
any
good
reason
other
than
that's
what
somebody
wrote
down
decades
ago
and
so
absent
some
sort
of
compelling
Community
reason
why
we
shouldn't
have
a
museum
there,
I
I
think
we
should
do
what
we
need
to
do
to
get
a
museum.
Y
There
sounds
like
a
wonderful
concept
and
a
wonderful
plan,
and
if
we
need
to
fix
rules
that
artificially
prohibit
that-
and
we
should
fix
them
so
I'll
leave
it
to
staff
as
to
which
the
best
process
to
go
about,
but
I
would
be
in
favor
of
doing
one
of
those
things
to
accommodate
this.
J
Boss,
man,
yep,
sorry,
no
I'm.
I
s
I
support
going
that
direction,
although
it
seems
like
mu2,
isn't
our
only
concern.
We
have
the
RM
restrictions
with
regards
to
those
units,
so
it
seems
like
a
flex.
J
Zoning
is
the
best
way
to
go
about
trying
to
to
meet
all
of
those
needs,
given
those
both
the
two
zonings
on
the
property,
so
whatever
staff
recommends
but
I
see
the
flex
being
the
most
accommodating
to
the
various
needs
that
this
project
has
in
order
for
it
to
be
successful
and
be
as
transformative
as
we
all
hope
and
intend
it
to
be.
E
I'd
like
to
be
the
most
obnoxious
in
terms
of
what
I
would
like
staff
to
do,
it
seems
like
if
we're
not,
if
there
isn't
a
strong
reason
for
why
we
have
why
we
don't
allow
museums
as
in
the
zone.
We
should
change
that.
E
I
think
that
there
are
other
things
that
we
will
need
to
do
in
addition
to
that,
we
probably
still
would
have
to
flex
zone
or
do
something
for
the
site
in
order
to
allow
the
density
that
they're
looking
at
but
I.
So
I
would
like
us
to
take
the
opportunity
to
make
wide-ranging
changes
where
they
make
sense
and
narrow
changes.
If
that
helps
move
this
forward,
Mark.
F
Yeah
I'm
supportive
of
the
concept
but
I
I
have
one
caveat
before
I.
Give
that
caveat
I
would
rely
on
staff
to
point
the
best
way
of
moving
forward,
and
the
caveat
is,
let's
be
very
clear
here.
We
are
picking
winners
and
losers.
Losers
are
going
to
be
those
businesses
that
are
displaced
on
this
property,
and
you
know
my
concern
is
the
equity
considerations
of
that
the
nature
of
those
businesses
who
owns
those
businesses-
and
we
want
to
be
a
little
bit
mindful
of
that.
F
Having
said
that,
I
am
still
in
favor
of
getting
a
new
home
for
bimoka,
but
I
would
like
to
know
who
it
is
that
we
are
going
to
be
removing
from
the
site
either
by
lease
termination
or
otherwise,
because,
as
I
said,
it's
winners
and
losers
and
and
the
people
who
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
operate
their
businesses
there
going
forward
are
going
to
be
the
losers.
H
I
wanted
to
give
all
my
comments
at
once,
because
I
don't
have
too
much
for
question.
One
I
would
say
yes
on
the
flex
zoning
and
then
two
I
would
say.
Also
yes,
the
land
use,
map,
change
or
rezoning,
and
also
this
is
a
conversation
as
well
between
staff
and
the
applicants.
So
as
that
conversation
is
going
and
you're
looking
at
what's
happening
on
the
ground,
you
get
to
choose
what
is
the
best
way
to
move
forward.
H
So
yes
to
the
flex
zone,
yes
to
the
land,
use
changes,
I'll,
say
yes
to
question
number
three
as
well
and
number
four.
As
of
right
now,
I
don't
have
any
further
feedback
when
it
comes
to
architecture
and
the
site
plan.
I
know
that
I
have
seen
Danica
before
Council
many
many
times
before,
with
multiple
of
applicant
and
I'm,
very
confident
that
the
architecture
will
be
will
be
one
that
we
as
a
council
will
be
okay
with.
B
B
Right
right
on
and
then
I'll
just
just
add
to
that
that,
like
Lauren
said
I
I
see
no
reason
to
not
allow
museums
in
mu2.
So
if
we
can
get
that
done
as
part
of
this
process,
why
not
but
I'll
leave
it
up
to
the
applicant
staff
about
the
most
efficient
way
to
proceed.
B
So
are
people
feeling
generally
comfortable
with
this?
We
can
go
into
some
detailed
comments,
but
people
are
seeing
seem
pretty
favorable
so
far,
I'm
seeing
some
seen
some
nodding
heads
here
we
already
heard
from
Juni.
Does
anyone
want
to
offer
an
additional
comment,
or
can
we
just
move
right
on
along
okay,
that
that
was
easy
for
a
complex
question
and
I'll
just
say
that
this
involves
multiple
steps?
B
So
you
all
have
some
work
to
do
here,
but
one
thing
I
would
encourage
as
we
hit
the
North
Boulder
sub
Community
Plan
update
is
to
incorporate
some
language
about
the
Art
District
as
part
of
that.
So
not
just
talk
about
this
corner,
but
talk
about
this,
this
vibrant
artistic
future
for
for
the
the
North
Boulder
subcommute
line
in
this
Corridor
that
can
help
to
establish
why
we're
making
some
of
these
other
changes
so
I.
Just
throw
that
comment
out
there
on
that
bit
of
the
process.
Bob
yeah.
Y
I
just
want
to
follow
into
that
last
comment
here,
because
I
think
it's
a
really
good
point.
You
know
the
North
Community
Plan
was
created,
but
in
1996
or
something
like
that,
I've
lived
in
North
Boulder
since
2001.
it
it's
substantially
changed
both
from
the
standpoint
of
the
makeup
of
of
the
commercial
and
housing
mix,
but
particularly
because
of
the
creation
of
the
North
Boulder,
Arts,
District
and
so
I
think
we
need
the
plan
to
catch
up
to
what
reality
is
and
I.
Y
Think
Aaron
is
absolutely
right
that
we
need
to
as
long
as
we're
going
to
fiddle
with
the
plan.
We
should
have
the
plan
reflect
what
really
is
going
on
in
North
Boulder.
It's
not
just
this
Museum.
It's
all
the
things
that
have
happened
over
the
last
20
years
around
arts
in
that
community,
and
let's
have
that
recognized.
Y
B
Go
okay,
so
maybe
we
can
move
on
to
number
number
three.
Do
we
feel
that,
on
balance,
the
project
is
consistent
with
the
goals
and
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan?
Do
you
want
to
just
nod?
That's
good
enough
for
me
all
right,
I'm
seeing
nods.
So
then
number
four
is
on
to
the
detail
of.
Do
we
have
any
feedback
to
the
applicant
on
the
conceptual
site,
plan
and
architecture.
B
J
We
start
to
kind
of
address
a
number
of
things,
but
just
so
it's
clearly
on
the
record.
I
know
it's
been
mentioned,
but
I
would
like
us
to
really
zero
in
on
this
liquor
license
issue
and
how
we
can
resolve
that
and
and
what
are
any
of
those
interesting
ways
in
which
that
is
possible
or
or
talking
to
our
folks
in
the
state.
But
that
would
be
something
I'd
love
to
see
us
try
to
resolve.
X
Yes,
yes,
so
we
Matt,
we
did
the
the
study
with
we
hire
a
lawyer,
a
legal
licensed
lawyer
who
help
us
identify
the
side,
and
if,
if
the
museum
goes
on
the
North
End
of
the
of
the
lot,
we
will
be
at
500
feet
from
the
new
high
school.
That
Chinese
Mountain
will
would
be.
Building
will
be
of
over
500
feet.
T
I,
do
we
were
able
to
do
a
bit
of
research
since
we
last
touched
space
about
this
just
a
little
while
ago,
and
there
is
a
path
forward
with
a
with
a
waiver
as
well,
and
so
I
feel
confident
that
that
we
can
accomplish
this.
B
G
We're
on
just
general
feedback
now
all
right,
that's
all
everything's
a
go
so
I
would
like
to
say
I
think
it'd
be
cool
to
engage
growing
up
Boulder
if
that's
possible.
You
know
when
I
think
Arts
I,
definitely
think
kids
and
I
think
that's
a
things
to
read.
G
G
If
this
is
the
right
moment
for
that,
I
know
that
staff
said
earlier.
That
would
be
a
couple
years
out.
I
assume
that
didn't
mean
we
would
delay
the
project
a
few
years.
Just
so
that's
the
timing.
It
would
go
to
tab
right
because
I
think
that
where
that
is
on
North
Boulder
or
on
Broadway
rather
in
North
Boulder,
it
there's
some
other
stuff
happening
there
and
you
know
I,
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
on
the
west
side
of
that
street.
Eventually,
so
you
know
I
think
that's.
G
We
just
had
some
some
issues
on
the
east
side
right
near
there,
and
so
one
wondering
if
that
is
going
to
be
looked
at.
Maybe
asking
tab
about
that,
and
also
about
just
you
know:
we're
we're
at
exit
and
entrances
and
curb
cuts
and
stuff
like
that.
I
think
it's
always
good
to
get
tabs
input
there.
B
And
I'll
call
on
myself
here
and
just
like
the
one
thing
I
worry
about
Rachel
is
that
this
this
project
is
going
to
have
to
go
through
so
many
different
steps
that
are
time
consuming
and
expensive,
that
I
I
would
hesitate
to
to
put
them
through
yet
another
hoop,
particularly
given
I.
Think
probably
the
only
major
transportation
issue
I
see
here
is
whether
that
easement
access
to
the
property
to
the
West
should
be
retained
and
I.
Don't
I,
don't
know
that
that
question
merits
a
whole
review
by
time.
G
Yeah
again,
I
just
think
it's
the
West
Side
Broadway
section
there
that
is,
is
potentially
problematic
or
should
be
looked
at.
You
know
with
during
issues
and
things
I
think
that
we're
worried
about
on
the
east
side,
so
I
think
two
years
from
now.
Tab
might
have
a
better
sense
of
what's
going
on
there
and
possible
new
Mups
and
things,
but
I
won't
be
here
anymore.
So
maybe
we
could
do
a
potential
referral
to
Tab,
and
then
you
know
two
years
from
now.
Y'all
can
just
take
it
off.
If
you
needed
to
I.
Y
Yeah
Bob
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
a
middle
ground
there,
because
I
I
I
do
agree
with
Aaron
that
that
we're
so
so
far
out,
there's
so
much
work
that
has
to
be
done
there
I
wonder
if
this
is
a
discussion
that
we
could
park
up
unintended
until
until
the
Project's
a
little
farther
along
we've
got
some
of
these
regulatory
hurdles
behind
us
and
then
somebody
whether
it's
officer
planning
board
when
we
get
to
this
kind
of
site,
review
or
EVO
site
review.
Y
Maybe
that
would
be
the
appropriate
time
to
to
determine
whether
a
tab
referral
is
necessary.
I,
don't
know
staff
if
that's
I
know
that
normally
we
when
we
kick
things
over
to
tab,
a
concept
review,
but
this
feels
to
me
like
it's
so
far
out
and
there's
so
many
steps
to
happen.
It
feels
a
little
premature
because
I'm
not
even
sure
what
questions
we're
asking
to
have,
because
a
lot
of
things
are
still
in
flux.
Now.
G
If
I
may
also
just
say,
like
we've,
been
told
pretty
clearly
that
you
have
to
refer
a
concept
and
you
can't
do
it
down
the
line
like
I've
been
told
that
explicitly
by
staff,
so
I
do
think
it's
now
or
never,
and
that's
what
we've
been
told
in
the
past
and
I
won't
be
here
to
object.
If
that
is,
you
know,
is
that
law
gets
changed
internally
a
year
from
now,
so
I
would
feel
more
comfortable
referring
and
then,
if
you
needed
to
pull
it
back.
K
Did
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask
Chandler
again,
because
I
think
he
certainly
mentioned
that
referral
could
happen,
that
it
was
a
bit
premature
right
now,
but
that's
certainly
down
the
road
as
it
was
getting
closer
to
being
ripe
for
it.
That
certainly
that
was
something
that
we
were
thinking
about.
So
I
didn't
want
to
leave
the
impression
that
we
weren't
thinking
about
moving
it
forward
and
having
to
have
and
Dad
weigh
in
as
much
as
it's
a
timing
issue,
but
Chandler
am
I
incorrect
in
that.
R
No
you're,
correct
and
also
Council
can
refer
it
at
site
review
or
if
you
want
to
make
a
condition
right
now
saying
that
they
go
to
tab
when
they
come
in
for
site
review,
we
can
do
it
that
way.
I
mean
it
can
be
pretty
flexible,
but.
O
R
G
Thanks
for
that,
I
I
will
say
again
like
that's
different
than
what
I've
been
told
within
this
same
calendar
year,
I
think
on
when
we
can
refer
to
Tab
and
dab
that
it's
and
and
none
of
these
referrals
were
done
to
tab
prior
to
me,
asking
for
it
at
CU
South.
So
this
is
a
fairly
new
process
like
within
the
last
two
years
that
we
have
done
this
at
all.
G
As
a
as
a
council
and
I
think
we
are
working
through
some
glitches
there,
but
I'd
be
worried
that
that
we
will
get
different
advice
on
a
different
day
potentially
on
this
issue,
so
I'd
be
more
comfortable
referring
and
the
conditions
I
would
want
is
just
you
know,
look
at
the
interface
and
parking
conditions
on
Broadway
and
then
look
at
at
entrances
and
and
exits
and
just
weigh
in
on
thoughts
there
and
with
that
I'll.
Let
it
lie.
B
W
V
Don't
that
would
never
be
Our
intention
or
is
it
possible
so
I
think
having
gone
to
tab
twice
this
week
with
Chandler
I
think
having
clear
Direction
on
what
you
want
us
to
look
at,
or
just
maybe
directing
us
to
work
with
Community,
Cycles
or
staff
to
make
sure
that
it's
safe
and
the
connections
are
made
is
also
very
helpful
so
that
we
can
start
working
on
it
now
versus
waiting
until
later.
So.
W
Just
to
add
on
that,
we
are
at
this
point
five
years
in
in
the
making
to
get
where
we
are
now
to
you
today
and
because
fundraising
is
necessary
and
contingent
on
certain
timelines.
R
G
And
knowing
now
that
Danica
met
with
Community
Cycles,
where
I
also
work
I
have
to
withdraw
my
motion.
I
can't
make
a
motion
that
is
relevant
to
a
conversation.
I
think
that
they
had
with
the
applicant,
so
I
will
withdraw
that
and-
and
anybody
can
go
forward
with
it,
but
I
didn't
I
didn't
know
that
conversation
happened,
I,
guess
great
minds.
Think
alike.
Thanks.
B
E
This
might
be
a
terrible
idea,
but
I
think
that
Tab
and
dab-
probably
it
makes
sense
for
this
to
go
to
them
at
some
point
before
permit
at
the
very
least
and
I
think
that,
to
some
extent,
I
would
be
interested
in
leaving
that
up
to
the
applicant
I.
Think
that
how
you
know
nobody
knows
their
timeline
better
and
when
they
might
want
to
have
this
figured
out
and
get
feedback
on
it.
Whether
that's
earlier
in
the
process
or
later
in
the
process,
I
feel
comfortable,
leaving
that
up
to
them.
B
Okay,
how
do
people
feel
about
that
proposal
with
I?
Don't
know
thumbs
up
thumbs
down
kind
of
I'm,
seeing
nodded
heads
thumbs
up,
so
maybe
we
can
take
that
form
and
I'll
just
add
on
to
it,
so
that
the
the
applicant
can
request
those
but
I
I
would
also
request
for
Danica
what
Danica
said
is
to
work
with
Community
cycles
and
staff
to
ensure
that
there's
there's
no
negative
effects
on
bicycle
and
also
pedestrian
safety.
B
If
people
are
comfortable
with
that,
and
while
I
have
the
floor,
I
just
have
one
more
thing
on
the
site:
design
I
really
liked
your
Paseo
going
south
from
the
museum,
so
that
looked
like
a
delightful
off
Street
kind
of
car,
free
area
and
I.
Very
much
hope
that,
as
you
go
through
design
iterations
that
you
keep
that,
because
I
think
that
could
be
a
delightful
public
space,
shielded
from
Broadway
and
right
next
to
the
museum
and
hopefully
get
a
cafe
in
there.
B
And
what
have
you
and
so
I
really
like
that
about
the
cycling
just
put
that
out
there
Nicole.
Z
And
I
just
kind
of
want
to
follow
since
we're
on
the
Kudos
stage.
Just
saying.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
David.
Thank
you,
Danica.
Thank
you,
Andrew.
You
can
really
see
the
intention
that
has
gone
into
this
project
to
create
a
really
Community
centered
vibrant
space.
Z
That's
going
to
serve
our
community
for
many
many
decades
moving
forward
and
I
just
I,
so
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
are
putting
into
this
and
making
this
space
for
our
community
and
I'm
so
thrilled
that
I
think
trying
to
think
about
how
I
cannot
retire
up
there
or
something
once
this
is
set.
But
thank
you
so
much.
B
Thanks
for
that,
Nicole
and
I'll
just
Lauren
go
ahead.
E
E
You
know,
I,
don't
think
that
we
take
sort
of
this
level
of
request
in
terms
of
exemptions
and
things
like
that
lightly,
but
that
you
know
the
your
passion
for
this
and
for
really
doing
right
by
this
place,
and
these
people
is
wins
us
over.
So
thank
you
so
much.
B
G
I
just
want
to
say
to
David
and
others
I
feel,
like
you
all
kind
of,
took
lemons
and
made
lemonade
for
for
getting
at
any
building
up
and
running
like
if
I
remember
back
to
2019.
You
know
in
the
East
End
plans-
and
you
know
you-
you
all-
have
have
been
working
long
and
hard
at
this.
So
it's
exciting
to
see
it
where
we
are
today
and
kudos
for
sticking
with
it
and
you
know
again
making
the
lemonade.
B
Yeah
I'll
add
my
thanks
and
congratulations.
You
know
this
is
a
complex
thing
that
you're
trying
to
do
and
you've
chosen
to
do
something
challenging,
rather
than
what's
easy
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
my
colleagues
and
myself
supporting
that
approach,
it's
good
to
think
out
of
the
box.
Sometimes
we
don't
always
do
that
in
Boulder,
but
I
think
this
has
the
potential
to
be
a
transformational
for
the
north
part
of
town
and
the
southern
edge
of
the
Arts
District,
so
very
much
looking
forward
to
the
next
steps.
B
V
My
only
well
I
will
let
I'm
gonna
just
ask
a
a
technical
question,
because
that's
where
my
brain
is
Chandler,
did
you
get
enough
feedback
to
move
forward
with
the
land
use
discussion
and
because
I
that's
to
me,
we
appreciate
all
the
support
and
that's
makes
me
smile,
but
path
forward
is
important.
Chandler.
Did
you
get
enough
feedback
on.
R
That
I
believe
so
I
mean
from
from
what
I
heard
council
is
supportive
of
moving
forward
with
the
Noba
Plan
update
to
amend
a
Landis
map
and
to
pursue
a
flex
zone
there
may
be.
We
may
need
to
come
back
at
some
point
with
something
a
bit
more
formal
for
them
to
approve,
but
I
think
we've
got
our
marching
orders
as
far
as
that
goes.
K
Can
I
just
add
two
and
I
just
appreciate
the
work
staff
has
done
and
I'm
gonna
steal
a
word
from
Charles
if
this
project
is
compelling
to
us
as
well
as
we're
thinking
about
it.
But
we
need
this
support
right
to
do
something
so
radically
different
than
is
currently
in
our
zoning
code
and
just
appreciate
the
clarity
as
as
we're
hearing
from
Council
to
really
try
something
new.
So
it's
an
exciting
project.
We
got
our
marching
orders
and
just
appreciate
the
conversation.
B
C
Yes,
sir,
our
matters.
Our
number
item
number
five
on
tonight's
agenda.
Matters
from
the
mayor
and
members
of
council
5A,
is
a
discussion
regarding
a
proposed
unification
of
ballot
measures
seeking
to
extend
the
0.15
sales
tax.
B
AA
Correct,
thank
you,
mayor.
Okay,
take
it
away!
Okay,
great
good
evening
mayor
and
Council
car
Skinner,
Chief,
Financial
Officer.
We
do
have
tonight
just
a
brief
presentation
of
the
polling
results.
AA
We
discussed
the
poll
with
Council
back
in
May
and
in
June
and,
as
you
know,
the
intention
for
the
plan
or
the
for
the
poll
was
to
gauge
likely
voter
support
and
sentiment
just
overall
sentiment
sentiment
regarding
specific
general
fund,
Services
priorities
for
funding
and
then
to
test
some
specific
ballot
language
and,
as
we
shared
in
June,
we
hired
probolsky
research
to
help
us
with
that
work.
AB
Good
evening,
thank
you,
Kara
I'm,
going
to
share
with
you
a
presentation-
and
this
is
an
executive
version
to
to
get
the
conversation
going.
There's
a
lot
more
data
behind
this,
but
we're
sharing
these
details
tonight
and
it's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
staff.
So
with
that
I
will
give
you
some
perspective
on
the
survey
itself,
the
methodology
and
how
we
arrived
at
accurate
data.
AB
So
this
was
a
survey
conducting
the
English
and
Spanish
400
likely
Boulder
voters
participated
in
the
survey
to
put
that
in
perspective,
a
Statewide
survey
in
Colorado
we'd,
probably
do
900,
or
so
sometimes
less,
sometimes
more
so
400
in
Boulder
really
robust.
The
majority
of
our
respondents
chose
to
respond
online,
which
is
just
kind
of
the
way
we
generally
communicate
these
days,
but
we
did
have
a
third
abundance
on
the
phone
most
of
them
were
on
on
mobiles,
but
there's
still
a
few
people
that
participate
on
landline.
AB
So
we
were
very
inclusive
in
our
approach
and
fully
reflective
of
likely
voters
for
2023.
so
going
into
the
data.
We
ask
almost
always
an
initial
question
of
what's
the
top
issue
facing
the
community
and
we
it's
an
open-ended
question.
They
get
to
tell
us
all
the
words
that
they
want
to
tell
us
whether
it's
on
the
phone
or
online
and
we
categorize
it.
AB
So
that's
what
this
slide
is
is
categorization
of
open-ended
responses,
the
actual
verbatim
responses,
the
words
they
say
were
delivered
to
a
report
on
results
to
staff
that
anyone
can
read
through
it's
fun,
bedtime
reading
we
overlay
the
demographic
perspective
of
who
it
is
that's
saying
it,
so
you
can
get
a
sense
of
who
it
is
their
experience
in
life,
but
here
they've
told
us
that
the
top
issues
to
them
are
housing,
affordability,
homelessness
and,
to
some
degree
there,
public
safety
and
it
kind
of
drops
off
a
bit
from
there.
AB
The
what
what's
kind
of
also
relevant
here
is:
what's
not
on
the
list
or,
what's
you
know
lower
on
the
list?
Water
different
moments
in
time
could
certainly
influence
the
the
things
that
are
on
this
list,
but
this
is
what
they
said
on
the
days
that
we
pulled.
So
we
asked
them.
Do
you
approve
or
disapprove
of
the
job
the
city
is
doing
delivering
services?
AB
This
is
that
big
question
that
they
don't
necessarily
have
to
have
an
answer
to
in
a
lot
of
ways,
we're
kind
of
not
in
touch
necessarily
with
government,
but
most
people
are,
and
62
percent
say
they
approve
of
you
as
the
services
you're
doing
a
couple
things
to
point
out.
First
of
all,
this
is
not
an
academic
exercise,
the
62
percent.
You
didn't
get
a
d-minus
or
an
F,
it's
not
the
way.
It
works,
we're
Americans.
We
don't
agree
on
anything.
So
when
we
have
62
percent,
it's
a
big
win.
AB
So
this
is
a
big
positive
number.
The
other
thing
to
look
at
here
is
the
differential
between
the
35
and
the
62
percent,
not
quite
two
to
one
but
really
big
differential
between
those
two
numbers.
We
are
never
dismissive
of
our
people
who
disapprove,
but
the
fact
that
there's
so
many
more
who
approve
is
a
really
strong
place
for
the
city
to
be
just
in
general
and
also
compared
to
your
peers.
AB
We
also
specifically
asked
the
same
thing
about
sort
of
providing
Services
police,
fire
and
public
spaces
and
facilities
and
arts
and
culture
programs,
so
you
can
see
generally
really
strong
numbers
fire
being
the
most
89
police
at
61
percent.
Again
similar.
You
know
almost
two
to
one
big
different
differential
there
good
numbers
with
maintaining
public
spaces
and
Facilities,
but
kind
of
mixed
a
little
bit
more.
AB
So
you
know
a
possibility
for
a
place
for
attention
and
then
really
strong
numbers
there
for
arts
and
culture
they're
very
happy
with
what
you're
doing
today,
a
big
differential
there
between
approve
and
disapprove.
The
unsure,
I
like
to
explain
is
not
a
is
not
us
not
doing
our
job.
It's
the
the
fact
that
the
public
just
doesn't
have
a
context
for
it.
AB
If
you
haven't
had
a
fire,
if
you
haven't
seen
a
fire
truck
in
a
few
weeks,
if
you're,
not
you
know,
engaged
with
with
firefighters,
you
just
might
have
to
have
contact,
but
these
are
most
people
have
a
pretty
strong.
Most
people
have
an
opinion
which
is
actually
better
than
most
places
with
Poland.
People
really
do
have
an
opinion.
Have
a
sense
of
what's
going
on
in
their
community
in
Boulder,
which
is
really
great.
AB
We
did
ask
a
question
about
where
you
would
want
increased
funding
and
we've
laid
out
these
topics.
These
were
prescribed
topics.
They
were
rotated
when
presented
or
actually
randomized,
I
should
say
when
presented
to
the
respondents
so
of
the
400
respondents.
The
ordering
was
fully
randomized,
and
so
you
can
see-
and
one
of
the
things
we
do
is
we
allow
them
to
choose
three.
AB
We
like
this
format,
because
some
people
have
you
know
several
priorities,
several
places
where
they
want
more
funding
to
be,
and
you
can
see,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
bunching
there
at
the
top
with
things
like
supporting
homeless
services
and
then
addressing
affordable
housing
and
Human
Services,
and
also
Public
Safety,
they're
kind
of
really
rise
to
the
top.
AB
There
we're
never
again
dismissive
of
the
ones
that
Cascade
and
are
lower
down,
but
really
you
clearly
have
an
identification
of
what
they
care
about
and
where
your
public
wants
you
to
allocate
resources,
and
that
could
be
a
guide.
Yes
in
policy
making.
It's
not
you,
obviously,
a
mandate,
it's
a
guide.
AB
AB
There
could
be
some
minor
changes
to
it,
but
essentially
the
first
one
split
sample
a
half.
The
voters
got
the
question:
should
it
be
extended
until
2024
or
2044
70
support
24
opposed
we
round
up,
so
you've
got
very
strong
numbers
for
support
for
extending
this
through
2044..
We
also
asked
the
question
to
other
the
other
half
of
the
voters
to
be
extended
until
ended
by
voters,
so
you
have
the
chance
to
potentially
do
it
that
way
without
kind
of
you
know,
limiting
it
to
a
specific
time.
AB
Certain,
and
here
the
numbers
are
virtually
the
same
right.
You
had
70
to
23
and
a
half.
Now
you
have
70
to
22
and
a
half
I
mean
it's
the
same
numbers
again
this.
This
becomes
a
policy
decision
for
you
all,
but
you
really
have
support
levels
for
both
options
and
then
it's
a
decision
to
how
you
proceed.
If,
if
this
is
a
policy
decision
to
move
forward,
I'm
putting
something
on
the
ballot
for
this,
these
by
the
way,
maybe
a
little
more
too
granular
for
you.
AB
But
this
is
your
likely
voter
turnout,
so
pretty
heavily
female
and
pretty
heavily
English
speaking,
preferring
English
heavily
older.
Because
again,
this
is
a
likely
voter
and
an
off-year
election,
heavily
white,
heavily
Democratic
and
non-affiliated
independent
voters
and
really
heavily
five
out
of
five
owners,
which
are
the
people
who
show
up
in
every
single
election.
They
vote
five
out
of
five
possible
elections.
AB
So
really
that's
who
we're
we're
looking
at
is
this
I
mean
you
can
kind
of
tell
the
profile
of
who
it
is
that's
going
to
show
up
and
make
these
decisions
in
Boulder
I
know.
That's
a
lot
of
data.
There's
a
lot
behind
that
that
staff
has
that
we
presented.
We
are
fully
available
for
questions
to
dive
in.
However,
you
want
certainly
tonight
and
certainly
offline.
We
can,
you
know,
have
as
many
meetings
as
we
need
through
staff
to
get
you
the
data
you're.
Looking
for.
H
Yes,
I
first
want
to
thank
you
by
the
way
for
your
presentation.
I
did
a
just
last
week,
I
had
a
town
hall
on
public
safety
and
I
can
tell
you,
based
on
that
town
hall.
I
failed
personally
right
it,
and
sometimes
we
all
see
the
world
differently
or
think
differently.
Based
on
how
people
respond
to
us
and
I
have
to
tell
you.
H
I
did
not
sense
that
there
would
be
that
many
people
who
are
in
support
of
our
Public
Safety
how
we
engage
or
the
way
we
provide
services
when
it
comes
to
that
particular
issue.
I
have
close
to
probably
100
people
in
the
room
and
they
were
all
in
various
ways,
not
very
pleased
with
the
work
that
I
can
say.
I
have
done
and
we
have
done
as
a
CD.
So
to
me
to
see
that
tonight.
H
That's
I
I
really
appreciate
to
see
that,
but
nonetheless
I
still
hear
those
people
in
the
community
who
are
not
happy,
but
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
something
that
I
heard.
You
say
and
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
you
mentioned
the
sample
size,
which
is
about
400
people
and
I'm.
Thinking
we
live
in
a
city
of
close
to
107
000
people,
how
how
is
a
simple
size
of
about
400
people
can
really
speak
to.
H
How
is
this
polling
reliable?
Basically,
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
get
that
get
to
is
that?
How
can
that
represent,
really
how
people
will
eventually
vote
and
I'm
sure
you've
done
this
work
before
so
I
wanted
some
clarity
on
on
that
aspect.
Thank
you.
AB
Sure
so,
as
I
said
at
the
beginning,
I'll
use
Statewide,
not
National,
because
I
don't
know
how
much
confidence
we
have
nationally
with
numbers
but
on
a
Statewide
basis.
AB
700
900,
a
thousand
is
very
predictive
of
outcomes
and
if
you
look
at,
if
you
go
back
to
I
mean
it's
easy
to
look
at
this
in
terms
of
politics
right,
you
look
back
at
a
gubernatorial
election
in
any
given
year
and
you
look
at
one
of
those
polls
somewhere
in
those
hundreds
and
or
maybe
a
thousand
respondents.
You'll
see.
You
know
two
three
weeks
out
a
month
out:
it's
very
predictive
of
outcomes.
So
that's
one
way
of
validating
that
that
you
know
in
a
place
the
size
of
Boulder.
AB
Having
something
that's
you
know,
maybe
half
the
size
of
a
typical
Statewide
bowl
is
going
to
be
accurate.
Also
in
the
hundreds
of
polls
we
do
for
other
government
agencies.
This
is
a
a
greater
than
average
sample
size,
so
just
to
give
an
example,
even
in
a
place
like
Denver
or
Los,
Angeles
or
Miami
300
completed,
surveys
can,
as
long
as
it
is
fully
accurate,
accurately
reflective
of
the
demographics
and
the
geographic
layout
of
the
the
respondents,
whether
it's
residents
or
voters
or
some
other
group.
AB
Y
Adam
thanks
for
being
here
tonight
and
thanks
for
doing
the
poll
I
know
that
this
is
a
preview
to
a
discussion
around
the
ballot
measures.
But
I
was
intrigued
by
your
commentary
that
our
I
guess
I'll
call
our
approval
rating
that
was
in
the
60s
or
low
70s
was
was
pretty
good.
Can
you
Benchmark
that
for
us,
I
mean-
and
you
do
do
these
surveys-
for
for
dozens
of
cities
around
the
country?
How
do
we
I
mean?
Can
you
throw
some
numbers
out
there
on
averages
or
medians
like
how?
AB
So
let
me
you're
putting
me
a
little
bit
on
the
spot
and,
and
the
answer
is
yes
for
sure
we
can
do
that
going
forward,
but
just
because
it
might
be
easy
for
me,
I
can
pull
up
our
Arvada,
which,
which
you
know
where
and
I'll,
give
you
an
example
what
we
might
be
able
to
do
for
you
all
as
a
you
know,
something
we
can
maybe
you
know
share.
Let
me
share
that
and
unless
you.
AB
Well,
here,
let's
see
I,
don't
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
we're.
Gonna
show
this
until
that
staff
tells
me
I
shouldn't
do
this.
So
here's
what
we
did
for
Arvada
you
can
see
there
was
there.
There's
was
a
community
survey,
so
it
was
a
different
purpose,
so
you
can
see
police
right
here
and
parks
and
I
don't
know
if
we
had
fire
on
there.
But
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
we
might
be
able
to
do,
taking
the
data
that
we
do
have
and
comparing
you
to
your
neighbors.
AB
Y
Yeah
and
remind
I'm
just
looking
your
right
direction,
wrong
direction,
numbers
that
were
in
the
30s
and
40s.
Is
that
comparable
to
the
question
you
ask
about
our
voters
or
our
residents
about
whether
they're
happy
with
the
services
we've
provided.
AB
Yeah
I
I
think
so,
but
but
and
so
we
have
to
find
some
equivalent
question
but
also
I
think
the
important
thing
here
to
keep
in
mind.
We
may
not
have
an
Apples
to
Apples
Benchmark,
because
we're
talking
about
a
very
high
propensity
group
of
Voters,
which,
as
I
kind
of
laid
out,
is
a
very
unique
group
that,
let's
say
kind
of,
looks
like
you
versus
your
broader
Community,
which
has
a
profile
that
might
be
a
little
more
diverse.
O
C
K
Y
It's
a
process,
question
I
know
that
we
kind
of
rushed
staff
and
Adam
for
a
quick
presentation
tonight,
which
was
not
a
plan
because
we
added
something
to
tonight's
agenda
at
the
last
minute,
Adam
or
or
Cara.
Are
we
going
to
have
a
more
a
second
or
more
thorough
presentation
of
the
of
the
survey
results
when
we
were
scheduled
to
do
that,
which
was
I?
Think
next
week.
AA
Thank
you
for
that
question.
I.
Think
it's
up
to
council.
You
know
if
you
would
like
a
more
in-depth
presentation.
We
are
happy
to
do
that.
We're
we
certainly
could
just
be
open
to
further
questions
at
the
agenda
at
the
meeting
next
week
after
you've
had
more
opportunity
opportunity
to
look
at
the
report
either
way
we're
open
to.
However,
Council
would
like
to
handle
it
and.
Y
AA
We
put
it
to
hotline,
we
can
certainly
attach
it
to
the
agenda
item
for.
Y
Next
week
some
of
us
are
not
getting
hotline
these
days.
That's
a
problem
that
it's
working
at
so
I
didn't
get
it,
and,
and
apparently
some
of
us
have
not
got
hotline
for
the
last
30
days.
So
that's
a
separate
issue
that
we
all
should
be
aware
of.
Okay,.
AA
F
H
Thank
you.
Well,
my
understanding
I
wanted
to
hear
more
from
maybe
Matt
or
Bob
us
to
because
my
understanding
part
of
this
conversation
relates
back
to
the
ballot
measures
so
now
hearing
what
we
heard
from
Adam.
How
does
that
impact
us
moving
forward
and
I?
Don't
want
to
say
more
because
I
feel,
like
that's
your
presentation,
Matt
and
Bob.
Thank
you.
F
I
am
Matt.
Why
don't
you
lead
off
and
and
give
us
a
an
update
as
to
where
things
are
I.
J
Appreciate
that
well
so
far
Aaron,
certainly
it
was
involved
in
this
as
well.
So
I
don't
want
to
forget,
forget
our
mayor,
hopefully
he'll
get
back
in
and
be
able
to
say
his
perspective
on
this
as
well.
But
you
know
with
regards
to
these
surveys,
results
right.
These
survey
results
and
I
can
speak
for
Bob
and
I
on
the
charter
committee.
J
These
this
was
in
motion
prior
to
the
Arts
measure,
getting
its
certified
signature,
so
this
process
was
was
sort
of
going
and
so
I
guess
to
the
earlier
question
that
maybe
Bob
had
about
whether
we
want
to
come
back
to
this.
It
really
centers
on.
If
this
Council
decides
that
we
want
to
unify
these
ballot
measures,
then
coming
back
to
those
results,
may
not
be
necessary
because
we're
moving
in
a
slightly
different
direction
than
those
results
are
actually
informing
us
about.
But
but
if
not,
then
then
maybe
that's
the
case.
J
So
maybe
we
can
sort
of
table
that
I
don't
know
if
Bob
agrees
there
to
some
extent
but
but
nonetheless,
that's
sort
of
where
I
feel
that
goes,
but
with
regard
to
Aaron's
back
awesome.
J
So
so,
where
I
would
sort
of
kick
off
is
where
the
CAC
note
came
out
was
really
with
regards
to
conversations
with
the
representatives
of
the
ballot
petition
committee
about.
Is
there
a
way
to
unify
these
ballot
measures
right?
We
had
0.15,
potentially
going
all
the
way
to
the
Arts
or
staying
within
the
general
fund,
going
in
completely
different
directions.
J
Was
there
a
chance
for
everybody
to
not
just
wit,
not
just
gain
a
little,
but
everyone
had
to
lose
a
little
too
and
was
there
an
opportunity
for
us
to
figure
out
how
to
unify
these,
and
so
that
is
what
some
discussions
had
led
to
and
and
I
think
this
was
the
best
case
scenario
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
nobody
was
sort
of
left
out
of
it
and
to
make
sure
that
the
community
really
had
one
thing
to
evaluate
on
the
ballot,
and
so
that's
why,
in
the
note,
what
was
sort
of
informally
agreed
upon
it
really
takes
us
to
sort
of
vote.
J
The
something
we
want
to
move
forward
was
that
we
would
look
at
maybe
splitting
the
0.15
50
50.
and
not
picking
a
dollar
sign.
The
50
50
was
deliberate
because
then,
as
that
sales
tax
revenue
grows,
each
party's
share
of
that
Revenue
grows
as
well,
and
so
it
was
important
for
us
to
make
sure
that
that
as
sales
tax
goes
up
or
down,
so
does
each
group's
share
of
that,
be
it
the
city
and
or
the
Arts.
J
So
so
that
was
really
the
deal
that
was
and
and
really
the
the
arrangement
that
was
struck
in
trying
to
unify
these
two
ballot
measures
and
that's
what
was
brought
forth
via
CAC,
and
so
there's
really
that
kind
of
conversation
in
front
of
us
is.
J
Do
we
feel
that
it's
a
a
good
thing
for
us
to
unify
these
two
ballot
measures
and
in
talking
with
the
Arts
folks,
they
are
very
interested
in
seeing
us
find
a
way
to
build
collaboratively
going
forward
and
realizing
that
this
is
the
floor
and
not
the
ceiling
and
I.
Think
that's
an
important
thing
for
us
to
consider.
We've
got
four
thousand
people.
It
supported
this
ballot
measure
to
get
on
the
ballot.
We
don't
want
to
ignore
that.
J
So,
looking
at
this
as
a
floor,
not
a
ceiling
and
the
fact
that
you
know
this
doesn't
foreclose
any
conversation
about
additional
funding
that
may
come
down
the
road,
but
that
is
for
a
future
Council
to
weigh
in
on,
and
so
that's
really
what's
in
front
of
us
with
regards
to
potentially
unifying
these
two
ballot
measures,
and
so
I
saw
Aaron
pop
in
right,
as
I
had
gotten
started,
but
I
wanted
to
maybe
turn
over
to
Aaron
or
Bob
since,
since
they
worked
on
this
as
well
to
see
if
they
have
any
additional
comments
that
they
want
to
add
before
we
maybe
field
some
questions
and
and
have
some
larger
discussion.
J
B
Y
Well,
thanks
and
Matt's
done
a
great
job
of
summarizing.
First
I
want
to
be
very,
very
clear
that
while
some
of
us,
including
Matt
and
Aaron
and
I,
have
had
some
conversations
with
the
leaders
of
the
development
measure,
we've
been
super
clear
in
each
one
of
our
discussions
that
we
do
not
speak
for
counsel.
We
only
speak
for
ourselves
that
any
decisions
relating
to
the
ballot
measures
will
be
decision
made
by
Council
jointly
and
so
no
no
deal
has
been
struck
no
agreement's
been
made.
This
is
simply
a
discussion.
That's
been
happening.
Y
Ongoing
others
may
have
had
discussions
with
the
Arts
folks
as
well
and
that's
great.
Secondly,
there
is
precedent
for
a
group
to
successfully
go
out
and
collect
sufficient
signatures
to
get
measured
on
the
ballot
and
then
sit
down
with
counsel
and
make
some
adjustments
to
that
ballot.
Measure.
Y
We've
done
that
I
think
twice
at
least
Aaron
coming
if
I'm
wrong
in
my
timeline,
Council,
maybe
even
more
times
and
and
that
has
the
tendency
to
make
the
ballot
measure
even
better
I
I
applaud
the
leaders
of
this
ballot
measure
for
going
out
and
getting
sufficient
signatures
and
getting
themselves
certified,
but
I
also
applaud
them
for
then
their
willingness
to
sit
down
with
council
members
and
talk
about
how
the
ballot
measure
could
be
improved
upon
and
how
it
could
be
most
likely
to
be
successful.
Y
That's
particularly
poignant
in
this
situation,
where
we
we
had,
we
have
I
guess
I
could
say
past
tense,
because
I
hope
the
council
will
support
what
Matt
is
suggesting.
We
we
have
the
potential
for
two
competing
ballot
measures.
One
is
one
the
city
had
has
been
intending
to
put
on
in
2023
for
a
couple
of
years.
We
knew
this
tax
was,
it
was
going
to
be
expiring
and
we
have
intended-
and
we've
talked
about
the
last
couple
years
about
putting
this
ballot
measure
on
by
the
city.
Y
The
Arts
folks
had
had
slightly
different
ideas
and
they
wanted
to
have
the
the
funds
Extended
but
dedicated
to
the
Arts,
and
so
what
that
meant
or
what
that
means.
I
suppose
at
this
moment
in
time
until
we
change
our
plan
is
that
we
would
have
two
competing
ballot
measures
on
them
in
Teresa.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I,
think
section
53
of
the
sea
charter.
Y
That
says,
if
there's
two
ballot,
measures
on
and
they're
competing
or
they're
they're
inconsistent
and
they
both
pass
the
one
that
gets
the
most
votes,
wins
or
dominates
and
I
think
we
all
felt
kind
of
icky
about
that
I!
Don't
I,
don't
think
that
I
think
this
Council
has
been,
and
prior
councils
have
been
working
very,
very
hard
to
increase
funding
for
the
Arts
and
I've
first
joined
Council
in
2015.
Y
Our
funding
for
the
Arts
was
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
we
adopted
in
2015
a
10-year
plan,
a
cultural
master
plan
which
targeted
an
increase
in
the
funding
for
the
Arts
from
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
2015
to
2
million
dollars
by
2025
and
we're
almost
there
right
now.
I
think,
if
you
take
out
the
arpa
funding,
I
think
this
year,
we're
at
1.8
million
and
I
suspect
we'll
be
at
2
million
dollars
by
next
year.
Y
So
that's
been
great
progress
and
that's
been
great
success,
but
I
think
many
people
in
the
Arts
community
and
many
people
who
support
the
Arts
Community,
would
say
that's
not
enough-
that's
great
and
and
brought
to
that
big
hole,
and
so
the
Arts
Community
came
together
and
collected
sufficient
signatures
on
the
ballot
to
to
seek
a
dedication
of
the
entire
0.15
tax
to
arts
and
just
in
numbers
or
dollars
that
comes
out
to
about.
Y
So
that
would
be
a
pretty
significant
jump
and
so
there,
to
their
credit,
the
leaders
of
the
of
the
ballot
initiative
sat
down
with
several
council
members
of
the
last
few
weeks
and
said
you
know
what
we're
not
trying
to
be
greeting
here
greedy
here
we
have
4
000
people
who
supported
this
when
you
think
that
there's
going
to
be
sufficient
voters
to
support
dedicating
the
entire
tax,
but
we
also
recognize
the
fact
that
this
tax
currently
is
used
for
general
fund
purposes
for
all
sorts
of
things
like
Public,
Safety
and
and
Roads
and
and
parks
and
all
sorts
of
other
things.
Y
And
so
maybe
we
can
strike
a
deal
here
where
there's
a
substantial
portion
of
it
used
for
the
Arts,
but
not
all
of
it
used
for
the
Arts
and
leaving
somebody
behind
for
the
general
fund
and
after
some
discussions
with
several
council
members,
The
Proposal
was
50
50
and
that's
there's
some
Elegance
in
50
50..
That
would
result
in
a
pretty
substantial
increase
in
funding
for
the
yards
from
1.8
million
dollars
currently
to
about
3.7
million
dollars,
starting
in
2025.
Roughly
a
doubling
and
as
Matt
said.
Y
Y
Council
can
then
it
could
add
on
to
that
that'll
be
a
decision
for
someone
else
to
make,
and
so
I
I
applaud
the
Arts
leaders
for
their
willingness
to
potentially
forego
100
tax
and
and
say
well
we'll
settle
for
a
50
tax
because
we
believe
in
the
greater
good
of
the
community
and
and
we
want
the
general
fund
to
continue
to
be
funded
for
all
sorts
of
other
purposes.
There
is
precedent
for
this.
We
have
done
this
before.
Y
Teresa
can
correct
me
if
I'm
long,
but
we
we
identify
what
one
we
things
we
do
when
somebody
pulls
a
petition.
Is
we
identify
who
the
remember
the
right
word
for
it,
but
the
owners
of
that
petition
are
there's
three
or
four
designated
people
who
are
kind
of
the
leaders
of
that
and
they
have
the
power
and
the
authority
to
withdraw
or
modify
the
petition.
Even
though
it's
been
signed
by
4000
of
people,
we
don't
have
to
go
back
to
All
4
000
people.
Y
If
Council
puts
on
a
ballot
measure,
that's
a
little
different
than
what
was
approved.
They
have
the
authority
to
withdraw
that,
and
then
there
could
be
a
unified
ballot
measure,
which
is
really
what
we're
talking
about
tonight.
Where,
rather
than
having
a
City
ballot
measure,
that's
100
to
the
general
fund
or
a
Arts
ballot
measure,
which
is
100
Arts.
We
would.
Y
We
would
put
on
Council,
would
put
on
a
50
referred
ballot
measure
50
per
hour,
50
poor
general
fund,
and
if
we
did
that
the
leaders
of
the
designated
leaders
of
that
petition
would
rather
petition
you
would
all
stand
shoulder
to
shoulder
both
Council
and
the
Arts
community
and
advocate
for
that
particular
ballot
measure
and
really
de-risk
the
whole
fight
over.
Y
You
know
who
wins
and
who
gets
the
most
vote
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
we
would
all
stand
together
and
I
think
that's
something
that
was
in
a
very,
very
strong
message
to
the
community.
So
I
hope
that
my
Council
colleagues
will
consider
this
proposal
as
a
good
and
fair
compromise
that
respects
the
desires
of
the
4
000
people
who
signed
the
petition,
but
also
recognizes
that
we
do
need
some
of
this
money
for
the
for
the
general
funds.
Thanks.
J
Can
I
add
something
to
that,
but
Aaron,
but
I
did
I
didn't
want
to
I
want
to
make
sure
you
have
a
chance
to
speak
on
that
as
well,
but
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
caveat
based
on
some
of
the
emails
we've
received.
J
So,
just
for
some
context,
we've
received
some
emails
that
sort
of
refer
to
this
50
50,
but
also
refer
to,
in
addition
to
a
you
know,
having
1.8
million
and
so
I
think
it's
important
to
speak
to
that
and
and
what's
important
about
that
is
the
Arts
Community
is
looking
for
transformative
change
for
the
Arts
and
and
I
totally
get
that
and
there's
4
000
plus
people
that
support
that
type
of
change.
With
regards
to
funding
for
the
Arts
and
look
we
just
got
done
talking
about
how
transformative
moving
B,
Mocha
North
would
be.
J
There's
conversation
about
a
Performing
Arts
Complex
that
there's
a
lot
of
big
needs
in
the
Arts
community
and
big
needs
need
big
money,
and
so
what's
important
about
that
is,
is
I.
Think
where
we
have
the
opportunity
to
have
that
conversation
is
that
we
haven't
even
set
this
year's
budget,
let
alone
next
year's
budget.
There
will
be
a
new
Council
next
year,
and
so
that
1.8
is
an
important
thing
to
keep
open
on
the
table
for
discussion.
J
But
is
it
something
for
us
to
be
decided
and
so
they're
certainly
going
to
Lobby
us
they're?
Certainly
going
to
Lobby
candidates
to
say:
do
you
ex
do
you
or
do
you
support?
You
know
having
that
funding
be
50,
50,
plus
1.8,
to
which
case
that's
a
conversation
for
next
year,
but
that's
not
what
is
gonna
be
on
the
ballot
for
this
year.
J
So
I
just
want
to
give
context
to
why
we
saw
50
50
and
that
1.8
in
some
of
that
contextual
email
that
we
received
from
some
of
the
supporters
of
the
Bill
of
that
measure,
but
or
of
the
unifying
but
I
just
want
to
give
context
that
it
is
it's
there.
But
it's
also
a
separate
conversation
to
be
had
for
next
year's
budget,
and
you
know
feel
free
as
as
colleagues
to
speak,
to
where
you
are
on
that.
But
that's
a
that's
really!
J
A
debate
for
for
next
Council,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
understood
where
that
piece
is
in
relation
to
the
0.15
and
how
we
divvy
that
a
dedicated
funding
up
in
50
50,
which
is
the
proposal
on
in
front
of
us
yeah.
B
Thanks
for
getting
that
out,
there
Matt
I,
appreciate
it:
okay,
Mark
next
and
then
Rachel,
then
Nicole.
F
Yeah
I'm
gonna
take
a
different
perspective.
I
I'm
very
grateful
that
the
Arts
people
have
come
forward
and
that
they're
prepared
to
discuss
this
I
I,
think
that
is
gracious
on
their
part.
They
certainly
have
qualified
to
put
their
ballot
on
the
their
initiative
on
the
ballot.
But
as
the
old
joke
goes,
it's
it's
not
the
principle.
It's
the
price.
F
That
is
a
doubling
of
what
we
are
providing
for
the
Arts
today,
I,
don't
know
of
any
other
department
that
overnight
gets
to
double
its
funding,
and
the
fact
that
we
are
still
talking
about
the
additional
1.8
on
top
of
that
is
is
part
and
parcel
of
what
I
think
has
has
been
missing
in
the
conversation
as
the
sponsors
have
marketed
this
initiative,
because
they've
said
you
know,
we
can
raise
all
this
money
without
new
taxes,
but
they
have
never
discussed
the
impacts
on
programs
and
services
that
might
result
from
doing
this,
and
it
is
you
know
we
have.
F
F
You
know
keeping
our
pay
structure
competitive
for
our
employees
and
and
even
filling
potholes
removing
snow
and
instead
of
being
sensitive
to
that,
we're
looking
to
guarantee
money
over
the
next
very
extended
period
of
time
when
all
of
those
other
priorities
are
contingent
upon
tax
receipts
in
a
given
year,
but
the
Arts
is
going
to
be
guaranteed
a
doubling
of
their
budget
and
on
top
of
that
are
going
to
be
expecting
us
to
appropriate
more
money.
F
On
top
of
that,
I
could,
probably
you
know,
in
the
spirit
of
compromise,
barely
accept
a
50
50
allocation.
If
we
were
clear
that
we
were
going
to
zero
out
the
1.8,
because
doubling
the
Arts
budget
now
is,
is
a
a
very,
very
significant
increase.
F
You
know
over
the
past
decade,
as
Bob
has
mentioned,
we've
increased
our
spending
many
times
over
and
I.
Think
there's
a
willingness
to
continue
that
process
of
increase.
Almost
everybody
on
this
Council
I
think
is
supportive
of
the
Arts
and
hopes
to
increase
cultural
investment,
but
to
do
it
on
a
guaranteed
basis
at
that
level
of
increase
is
really
a
bridge
too
far
for
me
and
when
you
look
at
the
numbers
from
the
polling
and
and
where
that,
where
the
community
believes
its
higher
priorities
are
I.
F
I
am
very,
very
troubled,
but
I
have
50
50
split
if
there's
even
a
hint
that
we're
going
to
go
a
dollar
beyond
that.
Not
that
we
wouldn't
go.
You
know,
maybe
in
five
years
beyond
that,
but
no
other
department,
no
other
department
gets
doubled
in
a
year
and
then
get
and
gets
guaranteed
that
they
will
have
their
budget
doubled
moving
forward
and
and
if
we
have
another,
you
know
pandemic
situation.
F
That
money
is
not
going
to
be
available
for
any
other
purpose
other
than
the
Arts.
Even
if
there's
no
Arts
at
that
time
so
I
am
very
reluctant
to
remove
the
discretion
from
our
finance
department
to
be
able
to
make
the
kinds
of
allocations
they
need
to
make
on
an
annual
basis,
and
they
do
it
in
a
very
serious
way.
They
bring
it
to
the
financial
strategies
committee
and
then
FSC
comes
to
the
council
and
asks
for
its
blessing,
and
these
are
very
difficult
decisions.
F
They're
almost
excruciating
decisions
on
an
annual
basis
and
now
we're
taking
that
discretion
away
and
saying
you
know
this
is
guaranteed
money
going
forward.
I'm
I'm,
not
there
I'm.
Sorry.
G
When
I
raised
my
hand,
I
was
just
gonna:
ask
what
what's
this
process
like
what
am
I
supposed
to
weigh
in
on,
but
now
I'm
just
going
to
try
and
wing
it.
Having
seen
what
others
have
done
so
I
guess,
one
thing
is
I'm
I'm
a
little
bit
peeved
that
I
got
a
lot
of
calls
over
recess
about
like
here's,
where
we
are
with
this.
You
know
what
people
are
thinking.
Can
you
would
you
like
this?
G
You
know
formulation
of
a
compromise
and
we
got
to
a
compromise
and
then
somehow
it
changed
and
that's
a
little
aggravating,
because
I
feel
like
there
was
a
lot
of
time
and
energy
put
into
something
that
sounded
like
you
know.
The
the
groups,
whoever
was
talking,
were
thinking
that
something
was
going
to
work.
G
So
I'm
aggravated
that
I
didn't
know,
I
didn't
I,
didn't
know
about
it
and
until
like
today,
and
and
so
that
didn't
give
a
lot
of
time
for
responding
so
just
put
out
that
aggravation
I
also
I'm
not
running
for
re-election,
there's
no
way
I'm
gonna,
say
I
will
certainly
support
X
dollars
on
an
ongoing
basis
like
I
won't
be
here
and
it's
just
and
if
I
were
here,
I'd
probably
still
wouldn't
commit,
because
I
did
serve
during
the
pandemic.
G
That
was
my
early
formative
experience
and
when
the
you
know
what
hits
the
fan
stuff
changes,
so
I
I
would
be
loathe
to
to
commit
any
part
of
the
budget
like
that
that
I
I
would
feel
would
tie
my
hands
of
some
crisis
erupted,
and
you
know
I
think
the
Arts
is
hugely
important.
I
was
someone
who
wanted
us
to
dedicate
extra.
You
know
percentage
to
the
Arts
and
we're
we're
doing
that
and
I.
G
Just
don't
think
extra
part
of
the
budget
makes
a
lot
of
sense
when
there
are
just
competing
needs,
and
you
don't
know
what
the
picture
is
going
to
look
like
in
a
year
and
and
so
certainly
I
think
that
probably
all
we
can
realistically
commit
to
tonight
is:
do
we
want
50
of
that
to
go
to
the
Arts
and
I
think
it's
sort
of
a
little
bit.
G
You
know
it
could
turn
out
to
be
I,
don't
know
artificial
to
promise,
something
that
you
don't
know
if
you're
going
to
be
able
to
to
follow
through
with,
and
you
certainly
can't
commit
to
what
any
future
council
members
are
going
to
do
so.
I'm
I'm
happy
to
do
the
50
I
remain
a
little
aggravated
that
it
feels
like
the
goal
post
moved,
but
that's
okay,
I,
don't
see
how
we
we
go
beyond
that
and
and
have
any
legs
to
stand
on
thanks.
B
O
B
Should
be
additional
funding,
but
I
think
what's
in
front
of
us
tonight
is:
do
we
want
to
move
forward
with
the
unified
development
measure?
That's
50
50.,
so
people
can
throw
in
whatever
other
thoughts
they
want
to.
But
that's
the
specific
question
that
we're
dealing
with
I
got
Nicole
and
then
Tara
and
then
Lauren.
Z
Thank
you
and
I'm
going
to
start
with
a
few
questions,
probably
for
finance
stuff,
just
because
I
I
appreciate
that
folks
left
me
alone,
while
I
was
with
my
family,
but
that
also
means
that
I
don't
really
have
a
whole
lot
of
information
kind
of
coming
in
tonight.
So
I've
got
just
some
questions
for
for
finance,
stuff
I
put
on
their
videos.
Okay,
thank
you.
Z
And
then,
just
just,
let
me
know
whenever
okay
yeah
bye,
see
you
hikara,
hey
Mark,
so
one
of
the
one
other
questions
that
I
had
is
just
from
what
Bob
was
saying.
It
sounds
like
our
Arts
funding
has
really
increased
quite
a
bit
over
the
past
decade.
Is
that
right.
AC
Good
evening
Council
Mark,
wolf
budget
officer,
that's
correct
council
member
sphere,
the
numbers
I
was
able
to
gather
was
back
to
2017
was
the
latest
year.
AC
Z
Okay
and
have
have
other
departments
seen
that
that
type
of
increase
in
that
time
do
you
have
any
sense
of
that
I
know
the
general
fund
just
went
up
42,
but.
AC
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question.
Generally
departments
know
not
that
large
of
an
increase
this
office
I
mean
the
funding
that
we're
looking
at
is
the
office
of
arts
and
culture,
and
that
office
has
bounced
around
a
little
bit
across
a
couple
different
departments.
First,
in
library
you
know
Community
Vitality
so
hard
to
say
exactly
office
compared
to
department,
but
yeah
I
mean
certainly
compared
to
the
general
fund
as
a
whole.
It's
a
it's.
A
pretty
large
increase.
Z
Okay
and
I'm,
just
wondering
I
mean
it
is
you
know
this
is
a
really
large
increase.
Have
we
changed
anything
about
our
criteria
for
how
we
fund
Arts
organization
and
artists
in
our
community
that
we
haven't
kind
of
seen
this
increase
in
other
departments
too.
AD
I
hope
I
can
count
myself
as
a
friend,
then
thank
you
for
the
question.
Councilmember
Matt
stanski
with
the
office
of
arts
and
culture,
and
you
know
the
the
last
time
that
there
was
a
major
renovation
of
the
Arts
grants,
was
in
2016
with
the
adoption
of
the
cultural
plan.
Since
then,
the
process
and
the
criteria
have
been
pretty
much
the
same,
with
the
exception
of
two
major
changes
to
diversity
and
Equity
criteria
and
process.
AD
That's
correct,
but
the
increase
in
funding
has
been
largely
around
addressing
the
shortcomings.
The
needs
in
the
grants
program
for
bringing
additional
grant
opportunities
online.
Okay,.
Z
All
right,
thank
you
and
I
think.
Another
question
that
I
have
is
just
around
the
kind
of
racial
Equity
tool.
Was
that
used
in
any
way
and
kind
of
getting
to
this
potential
compromise
ballot
measure?
Does
that
inform
our
decision
in
any
way
and
thank
you
Matt,
as
well
as
I
disappear.
Z
And
that
maybe
that's
a
question
for
Matt
Aaron
Bob
folks
who
were
involved,
what
were
the?
How
did
racial
Equity
fit
into
working
on
this
compromise?.
J
Racial
Equity
will
largely
we
didn't
discuss
that
in
a
function,
because
this
was
about
two
competing
ballot
measures
that
were
going
after
the
money
differently
and
finding
a
way
in
the
middle,
so
that
there
was
really
nowhere
for
us
to
insert
that
in
such
a
short
period
of
time
of
the
conversations
we
were
having
to
find
a
way
to
unify
these
ballot
measures.
Although.
B
I
will
say
that
part
of
the
thinking
and
the
discussion
is
that
the
criteria
around
the
granting
of
grants
in
the
last
few
years
has
shifted
to
have
a
heavy
Equity
component
to
it.
So
that,
as
part
part
of
the
thinking
and
the
analysis
is
that
more
funding
for
the
Arts
will
necessarily
go
in
a
pro-equity,
racial
and
otherwise
Direction.
Because
of
the
way
the
criteria
are
set
up.
Z
Y
I'll
answer
that
not
good
you're,
absolutely
right,
Nicole
it
it
moves
in
the
out.
If,
if
the
philosophy
is
to
move
away
from
dedicated
funds,
this
does
not
move
away
from
dedicated
funds,
and
so
what
this
ends
up
being
is
a
bit
of
a
cost
benefit
analysis
right,
which
is
we're
faced
with
some,
not
good
choices,
thanks
to
our
good
friends
in
the
Arts
group
who
put
on
100
dedicated
tax.
So
the
question
is:
do
we
like
dedicated
taxes?
Y
Many
of
us
don't
I,
don't
would
we
rather
have
a
taxes,
50
dedicated
or
100
dedicated
I?
Guess
those
are
my
two
choices.
I
picked
50.
Y
It's
not
a
good
place
to
be
in,
and
it's
really
it
comes
down
to
your
your
analysis
of
what
you
think.
The
odds
are
that
that,
if
we
went
with
two
competing
ballot
measures,
the
city
one
would
get
more
votes
than
the
artist
one.
Y
Would
that's
why
I
think
it
was
a
very
great
for
the
pollster
to
be
able
to
come
on
and
tell
us
what
he
saw
and
and
I
think
we're
counselors
being
asked
to
do,
or
some
of
us
are
asking
our
colleagues
to
do
is
to
to
to
kind
of
risk
that
out
and
say,
do
we
want
to
take
our
chances
at
The,
Ballot
Box,
knowing
that
we
could
end
up
with
100
dedicated
tax
we'd
rather
pay
a
safer
route
and
have
a
50
dedicated
tax,
I
think
from
a
dedicated
tax
standpoint?
Y
Many
of
us
don't
like
them,
but
that's
not
probably
one
of
the
choices
on
the
table
right
now,.
Z
Okay
and
I
think
then
possibly
another
question
for
you
all
who
were
doing
some
of
the
negotiating.
Z
Did
the
group
kind
of
put
in
this
position
forward
give
us
any
indication
of
what
programs
and
services
they
feel
we
can
cut
to
dedicate
this
funding
like
any
any
ideas,
I'm
feeling
like
I
I
want
to
phone
a
friend
here.
What
are
we
going
to
catch
to
make
this
happen
great.
Y
Great
question
Nicole,
and
the
answer
is
no:
we
I
I
can
speak
for
myself
and
others
have
talked
to
them,
and
you
know
we
I
asked
that
question
many
many
times
you
know.
Do
you
want
us
to
cut
back
on
public
service?
You
want
to
cut
us
back
on
pothole
repairs.
Y
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
have
a
lot
of
priorities
on
and
the
response
has
been
focused
primarily
on
the
seeming
windfall
that
we'll
receive
as
a
result
of
the
library
district
and,
of
course,
you've
heard
since
you're
on
the
financial
strategy
committee
and
I'm,
a
member
Council
you've
heard
of
some
of
the
reallocation
of
some
of
that
that
those
benefits
that
we're
going
to
receive
when
we're
relieved
of
the
burden
of
funding
the
library.
Y
Some
of
those
have
been
allocated
now
for
very,
very
good
purposes
and
the
staff
has
reserved
some
of
those
for
future
needs
and,
of
course,
there's
a
property
tax
bill.
Emissioner.
That's
on
that's
a
Statewide
measure
that
provides
a
little
bit
of
uncertainty
to
us
from
a
revenue
standpoint,
but
I
think
they're
they're
if
they
were
on
Now.
Their
short
answer
to
your
good
question
would
be
look
to
the
library
windfall.
B
Y
B
I
can
be
a
little
more
specific
than
that,
because
staff
send
us
out
financial
analysis.
This
was
a.
AE
B
You
know
that
that
talked
about
the
the
future
of
the
the
library
funding
and
in
it
it
talked
about
how
there
are
I
think
there
are
three
major
categories
where
we've
already
essentially
planned
to
dedicate
funding
towards
which
are
the
The
CARE
program,
the
day
Center
and
the
bond
payments
for
the
Alpine
possum
site
and
those
together,
totaled
I
believe
a
little
over
five
million
dollars,
maybe
close
to
Six,
with
with
the
library
savings
being
in
the
10
million
dollar
range.
B
So
the
3.8
dedication
of
Arts
funding
actually
fits
pretty
neatly
within
that
that
it
still
allows
us
to
to
commit
the
to
those
three
significant
expenditures
that
we've
been
planning
on
making,
whilst
not
requiring
us
other
programs.
Because
of
that
addition
available,
so
that
that
analysis
was
done.
Z
Thank
you
for
that
Erin
and
the
and
maybe
Mark
wolf
could
kind
of
speak
to
this
a
little
bit.
Z
My
understanding
from
Financial
strategies
was
that
in
in
what
we
at
all
agreed
to
was
that
the
library
funding
was
kind
of
going
to
be
rolled
into
our
regular
budgeting
process
this
year,
because
we
have
something
like
70
million
dollars
worth
of
unfunded
need
in
the
city
for
things
like
Rec,
Center,
repairs
and
and
other
things
that
that
you
know
folks
need
so
Mark
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
that
a
little
bit.
AC
Sure
Jana's
mayor
Brock,
had
mentioned
Council
has
made
some
decisions
that
impact
that
funding
and
so
to
to
the
mayor's
point
we'll
have
to
memorialize
those
officially
in
the
24
budget,
you're
right
about
that.
It's
all
about
trade-offs
right,
so
we're
putting
together
the
budget
right
now,
departments
have
put
forward
their
best,
their
overall
needs.
AC
What
you
know
truly
would
move
the
needle
as
they
see
it,
and
it's
really
difficult
stuff,
and
so
you
know
certainly
based
on
Council
Direction,
we'll
build
the
best
budget
we
can
within
whatever
parameters
we
have.
AC
Library
reallocation,
helps
us
and
to
those
programs,
The
CARE
program
safe
and
manage
public
spaces
being
another.
You
know
all
of
those
need
to
need
to
find
a
home,
considering
that
work
is
currently
ongoing.
So
it's
at
some
point.
It's
it's
all
about
trade-offs.
Nature
of
budgeting.
Z
And
then
one
of
the
other
things
I'm
wondering
you
know,
we've
got
well
I
think
this
is
sort
of
a
comment
before
I
sort
of
get
to.
My
summary
summary
comments,
just
you
know
from
thinking
about
this
from
an
equity
angle
and
kind
of
how
we're
going
through
our
process
of
allocating
funds
in
the
first
place,
when
we're
able
to
do
that
from
a
holistic
budget
perspective,
I
think
we
can
think
about
these
trade-offs.
Z
We
can
kind
of
think
about,
for
example,
the
feedback
that
we
got
from
the
community
connectors
as
to
what
kinds
of
things
we
should
be
prioritizing
something
like
this
really,
you
know
we
can.
We
can
sort
of
Implement
things
a
little
more
equitably
once
they're
within
a
department,
but
the
process
of
putting
it
there
in
the
first
place,
hasn't
really
gone
through
the
the
tool
or
general
sustainability,
Equity
resilience
framework,
and
that
that
really
gives
me
pause
because
we're
not
just
talking
about
you,
know
fifty
thousand
dollars
here.
Z
This
is
a
pretty
substantial
amount
of
money.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
wondering
about,
and
almost
almost
done
with
my
questions.
We
have
this
new
ranked
Choice
option.
Z
Is
that
just
for
candidates
that
we
can
use
that
or
could
we
potentially
use
that
to
offer
voters
a
suite
of
things
that
they
could
rank,
or
is
it
just
for
just
for
candidates,
and
that's
a
anyway
just
wondering
if
that's
within
the
realm
of
possibility.
J
There
are
certainly
so
the
short
answer
is
no
by
State
Statute.
We
would
not
be
able
to
use
that
for
measures
so,
but
that
is
a
great
place
to
think
that
is
greater
greater
form
of
more
participatory
democracy.
So
that's
a
great
conversation
to
have
with
our
friends
at
fairvote
and
RCV
for
Colorado
and
those
that
advocate
for
those
alternative
voting
methods.
G
I'm
in
a
colloquai
question,
I
thought
there
was
a
method
where
you
can
say
this.
You
know
in
this
example,
it
would
be
like
voters,
you
know,
should
we
extend
the
the
15,
the
0.15
tax?
If,
yes,
then,
do
you
want
to
extend
it
at
this
rate
or
you
know
another
one
would
be
like.
Do
you
want
to
extend
it
at
this
rate,
so
I
think
you
can
kind
of
circumvent
that
arguably
Maybe
a
little
bit.
B
So
Teresa
I
wonder
if
you
could
weigh
in
here
because
I
think
it.
Maybe
you
can
confirm
a
factual
statement
that
you
couldn't
do
our
ranking.
But
is
there
a
way
to
do
a
series
of
questions
similar
to
what
Rachel
is
talking
about.
T
Yeah
I
I
can
confirm
that
we
cannot
do
a
ranking
and
and
as
to
whether
we
could
do
a
series
of
questions
I'm
happy
to
look
into
that.
G
G
Z
Yeah,
no,
no,
no
worries.
It
was
interesting,
future
future
discussion
when
we're
not
also
tired
and
going
off
track
a
little
I
I,
just
I
want
to
ask
you
know
why.
Why
didn't
we
deputize
some
people
or
maybe
FSC,
to
think
about
this
when
it
has
such
giant
budget
implications.
J
I
think
because
these
are
this
is
a
political
conversation
for
us
to
be
having
that
that's
the
nature
of
this.
This
is
a
we
are
weighing
the
politics
of
having
two
competing
ballot
measures
going
for
the
same
amount
of
money
and
as
elected
officials.
It's
our
job
to
sort
through
the
politics
and
the
community
interest
as
to
the
impacts
of
that
so
having
staff.
They
would
be
immediately
weighing
in
on
policy
and
policy
discretion
and
that's
something
we
try
to
shelter.
J
Staff
from
is
taking
political
positions
on
things,
so
I
hear
what
you're
saying,
but
I
think
we
would
quickly
tread
into
water,
where
staff
would
be
immediately
deferring
back
to
us
for
judgment
on
the
politics
that
ensues
real
quickly
when
we're
dealing
with
a
a
city
of
Boulder
ballot
measure
and
then
a
ballot
measure
supported
by
the
residents
for
over
4
000
signatures
to
put
it
on
the
ballot.
So
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying,
but
I
could
quickly
devolve
back
to
the
state
in
which
it
currently
resides.
Z
That's
really
you
know
really
critical
here
and
and
the
politics
you
know
involved
in
how
we
fund
our
operations,
has
real
implications
for
staff
and
for
everything
that
that
we
do
in
a
city.
So
it
does
just
feel
like,
like
this
kind
of
discussion.
I
think
in
the
future,
I
would
really
love.
Z
You
know
if
we
could
kind
of
have
it
as
Council
first
and
then
go
on,
because
it's
it's
a
little
hard
for
me
that
you
know
in
our
that
our
group
discussion
is
happening
kind
of
after
this
negotiation
has
sort
of
come
through
and
it
you
know
when,
when
this
negotiation
is
already
taken
place
and
we're
talking
about
you
know
five
million
dollars
plus
of
our
annual
budget
and
I,
think
especially
Financial
strategies
committee.
Z
It
would
have
been
nice
if
we
could
have
kind
of
talked
this
through
and
provided
some
feedback,
since
it
does
have
pretty
big
budget
implications.
I
will
kind
of
get
to
to
where
I'm
going
now.
B
Which
is
totally
totally
hear
your
points
and
basically
the
this
is
the
council
discussion
if
Council
says,
do
you
know
what
that
this?
This
is
not
something
we're
interested
in
then
you
know
we
either
say
no
or
start
over
you.
We
could
go
in
exactly
the
direction
that
you're
saying
if
a
majority
of
council
would
like
to
designate
a
subcommittee
to
go
off
and
talk
about
it
further,
that's
totally
on
the
table,
so
none
of
these
things
are
are
impossible.
There's
not
an
either
or
choice.
B
You
know
we
there's
a
possibility
here
that
the
organizers
of
the
ballot
measure
have
agreed
to
people,
so
that
makes
it
kind
of
a
smoother
choice,
but
there
are
other
choices
available
to
counsel.
This
is
not
predetermined,
and
so
you
know
you,
as
as
a
member
of
council
can
certainly
say
no
to
this.
You
can
also
advocate
for
taking
a
different
course.
Y
Listen.
We've
received
some
inbounds
from
these
people.
They
want
to
talk
about
this.
Let's
put
it
on.
On
the
very
first
meeting
we
have
back
from
break
so
I
absolutely
agree
with
you
that
in
a
perfect
world,
where
time
is
no
not
of
the
essence,
and
we
were
not
on
break
if
they'd
come
to
us,
somebody
would
have
said
hey.
Let's
T
this
up
for
Council
discussion,
delegated
committee,
deputize
them
and
have
them
go
off
and
have
these
discussions,
but
this
was
an
Outreach
by
these
people.
To
some
of
us
were
on
break.
Y
Y
We
were
very,
very
clear
of
those
of
us
who
spoke
to
them
that
we
do
not
speak
for
counsel,
that
we
were
happy
to
listen
to
what
they
had
to
say
that
we
were
going
to
take
it
back
to
our
Council
colleagues
and
that's
what
we're
doing
tonight
and
if
a
majority
of
council
does
not
want
to
pursue
this,
that
is
perfectly
fine.
This
is
this
is
the
first
and
only
discussion
we've
had
about
this.
Y
As
a
matter
of
fact,
we're
scheduled
to
take
a
first
first
reading
vote
on
ballot
measures
next
week
and
so
I
think
the
question
that's
being
asked
of
council
members
is
as
as
haphazard
as
this
process
has
been
during
our
break
is:
do
we
want
to
instruct
staff
there's
two
ballot
measures
that
staff
has
prepared
they're
in
our
packet
right
now,
one
is:
is
the
city
ballot
measure
which
says
100
of
the
funding
will
continue
and
Go
to
the
general
fund.
Y
The
alternative
is
the
one
we're
required
to
put
on
because
the
petition
was
certified,
which
is
100
of
the
money
will
be
going
to
the
Arts
funding
and
the
question
that
council
is
being
asked
tonight
as
as
short
short
notices
it
has
been,
is
do
we
want
to
ask
staff
to
prepare
yet
a
third
ballot
measure
that
says
50
50.?
We
can
then
take
that
up
and
first
read
it
in
a
second
read
and
decide
which
of
those
three
violent
measures.
We
want
to
move
forward.
Z
Thank
you,
so
yeah
I
mean
I,
think
I
I'm
I'm,
reluctant
to
move
forward
with
a
compromise
measure,
largely
just
because
I'm
really
reluctant
to
have
this
body
be
the
one
to
dedicate
These
funds.
It
really
feels
like
it's
going
against
our
financial
goals
of
moving
away
from
dedicated
funding.
Z
Z
To
me,
the
poll
that
we
saw
of
likely
voters
this
fall
makes
it
pretty
clear
that
likely
voters
are
prioritizing
housing
and
Behavioral
Health
expenses.
If
we're
going
to
be
allocating
more
funds
to
things
that
are
already
in
our
budget.
At
the
same
time,
I
do
want
to
honor
that
the
Arts
Community
got
so
much
voter
support.
They
got
3
500
signatures
in
a
matter
of
weeks
to
support
this
measure.
So
clearly
our
community
wants.
Z
You
know
the
the
folks
who
sign
the
the
petitions
really
would
like
more
Arts
funding.
So,
given
these
two
pieces
of
information,
I
would
much
rather
let
our
voters
decide
than
to
take
away
their
choice.
We
don't
have
infinite
funds
and
there
are
all
kinds
of
hard
financial
decisions
that
we're
going
to
need
to
get
used
to
making
I
understand
that
we
may
get
more
sales
tax
revenue
to
offset
the
loss
of
this
general
fund
Revenue.
Z
If
we
have
more
Arts
events,
I
also
hear
the
business
Community
saying
that
businesses
are
leaving
our
community
because
of
the
homelessness
crisis
that
we're
experiencing
and
if
we
don't
do
more
to
address
homelessness
with
some
social
services,
addiction,
housing,
we're
going
to
lose
sales
tax
revenue.
So
this
is
a
really
complex
issue
as
to
how
we
spend
the
limited
money
that
we
have
and
for
me
it's
a
decision
that
I
would
really
like
the
community
to
decide
on.
So
they
can
be
content
with
it.
Z
So
I
would
really
like
to
send
the
Arts
measure
to
the
ballot
as
it
is,
along
with
our
general
sales
tax
renewal
measure.
If
voters
would
like
to
fund
the
Arts
instead
of
more
General
things
like
rec
centers,
Parks,
Emergency,
Services,
housing
assistance,
homelessness,
police
fire.
All
of
that
I
would
really
like
it
to
be
their
decision,
because
I
don't
want
this
body
to
be
the
one
that's
going
against
our
financial
and
racial
Equity
commitments,
because
once
we
start
letting
go
of
these
important
goals
that
we
and
previous
councils
agree
to.
Z
Where
do
we
stop
with
that?
If
we
do
move
forward
with
a
compromise
measure,
I
would
just
really
like
to
make
sure
that
the
racial
Equity
instrument
is
applied
before
any
funds
start
being
allocated
just
sort
of
revisit
it.
Z
With
this
larger
pool
of
money
in
mind
and
I'd
really
like
to
have
the
option
to
make
use
of
extra
funds,
if
there's
a
formal
emergency
that
requires
more
funds
being
used
for
Human
Services
and
social
Equity
and
I,
don't
you
know
I,
don't
know
totally
know
how
to
do
that,
but
I
trust
that
staff
could
kind
of
figure
that
out
in
in
creating
a
measure.
Z
So,
if
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
a
compromise
measure,
I
will
not
be
voting
for
it,
but
if
we
do
move
forward
with
the
compromise
measure,
I
would
really
like
to
think
about
how
we
can
include
some
things
within
that
that
are
going
to
help
it
align
a
little
bit
more
with
the
sustainability
equity
and
resilience
framework
that
we
are
working
with
now
as
we're
doing
our
budgeting
process.
Thanks
do.
J
Mean
can
I
call
it.
We
on
the
back
end
of
that.
H
Sure,
thank
you.
I
want
to
add
that
I
do
appreciate
the
comments
made
by
Nicole
and
part
of
the
reason
why
it's,
because,
as
a
member
of
the
financial
strategy,
a
former
member
and
I,
think
it
goes
back
to
something
that
Mark
said
earlier,
that
we
have
so
many
different
priorities.
I
wish
that
maybe
there
could
have
been
a
balance.
What
are
the
trade-offs
hey
if
we
go
for
50
50,
here's
what
we're
giving
up
and
as
of
today
I
did
not
hear
that
as
part
of
the
conversation
so
I
wish.
H
There
was
more
of
that
and
I
understand.
Aaron.
You
mentioned
to
us
already
we're
just
deciding
whether
we
want
50
50.
But
ultimately,
there
is
still
part
of
the
conversation
is
what
are
we
giving
off
right
for
that
50,
50.
and
then
I
do
agree
with
Rachel
as
well.
I
believe
I
have
seen
ballot
measures
where
we
have.
If
you
vote
for
this,
would
you
like
to
you
know,
fund
the
Arts
at
50
I
have
seen
that
before
I.
Remember,
I've,
seen
that
on
my
ballot
now,
whether
the
Arts
Community
would
support
that.
H
That's
another
thing:
we
would
have
to
go
back
to
them
to
present
to
go
back
on
I,
guess
the
negotiation
that
you've
been
having
Matt
but
I
think.
Ultimately,
these
are
great
questions
or
I.
Think
there
needs
to
be
more
conversation.
I
do
support
the
arts
and,
by
the
way,
ultimately
I
will
support
the
ballot
measure.
I
will
support
the
compromise
because
part
of
it
is
I
support.
H
If
you
know
people
get
to
decide
whether
it's
at
50
or
25
or
10,
when
they
already
have
4
000
people,
actually
their
the
work
that
the
Arts
Community
has
done,
they've
done
more
work
than
we
have
done.
We
have
a
a
simple
size
of
400..
They
have
a
four
a
simple
size
of
four
thousand,
so
I
do
believe
they
will
win.
So
it's
either.
We
will
support
what
they
do
and,
and
how
do
I
put
it,
do
this
compromise?
H
U
I'm
gonna
I
agree
with
Judy
I
I
can't
blame
the
art
people,
they
have
been
shortchanged,
they
got
hit
hard
by
the
pandemic.
Most
musicians
didn't
even
perform
or
get
paid
for
more
than
a
year
two
years
at
least,
and
a
lot
of
these
people
had
no
livelihood
so,
and
we
all
I
mean
I
know
from
when
I
was
little
that
whenever
programs
got
cut,
it
was
always
music
and
art
so
but
most
importantly,
is
what
Genie
said.
U
What
I
agree
with
is
I'm
a
compromiser
I
like
to
collaborate
but
I'm
also,
definitely
not
a
risk
taker
I,
don't
like
taking
chances.
I,
never
gamble
at
casinos,
I
mean
I,
don't
I
really
do
not
like
Taking
Chances,
so
I
feel
like
we
could
easily
lose
I
agree
with
her,
for
the
best
interest
of
the
city.
I
think
is
to
have
one
ballot
measure
and
not
take
a
chance,
and
collaborate.
I
really
feel
strongly
about
this.
As
a
super
practical
person
that
I
am
Matt.
J
J
So
we
we
will
have
a
very
robust
process
that
sets
up
exactly
what
you're
looking
for
Nicole
with
regards
to
how
to
spend
this
money
so
that
that
the
timing
of
that
is
cooked
in
intrinsically
to
the
cultural
Master
planning
process
and
when
this
money
would
be
hitting
so
so,
I
think
a
lot
of
those
those
concerns
would
be
folded
in
very
appropriately
to
to
the
plans
and
the
monies
that
would
be
distributed.
Should
that
pass.
B
And
just
from
a
moderation
standpoint,
what
I'm
going
to
move
us
towards
here
before
long
is
whether
we
would
give
a
notifies
to
prepare,
prepare
a
50
50
alternative
for
next
week's
first
readings
of
ballot
measures.
So
it's
it's
a
it's
a
question
of
whether
we
prepare
an
alternative.
The
discussions
will
not
end
there.
B
So
just
keep
that
in
mind,
I'd
like
to
give
people
who
haven't
had
a
chance
to
talk
yet
a
chance
to
go,
and
then
maybe
we'll
catch
up
with
others
and
getting
a
reminder
of
a
time
check
that
it
is
1005.
B
E
Thank
you.
I
have
a
somewhat
silly
question,
but
remind
me:
what
is
it
that
if
the
city
puts
something
on
the
ballot,
how
much
support
can
we
give
that
thing?
How
much
education
or
communication
can
we
provide
foreign?
B
I
believe
the
answer
is
that
Council
can
pass
a
measure
of
support
and
other
than
that
the
city
cannot
do
anything
to
support
a
ballot
measure
and
can
a
city
Stafford
correct
me
if
I'm
right
or
wrong
there.
T
E
Thank
you,
I've
struggled
with
this
one.
A
lot
I
you
know
personally,
would
love
to
double
the
funding
for
the
Arts,
but
also
after
reading
that
polling,
I'm
and
again,
that
was
just
sampling,
likely
voters,
not
the
whole
community.
So
it's
hard
to
know
what
the
community
as
a
whole
wants,
but
it
didn't
seem
like
likely.
Voters
would
choose
that
area
for
extra
funding.
E
So
I'm,
I'm,
leaning
towards
the
opinion
of
I,
would
like
to
see.
You
know.
I
know
that
if
voters
approved
the
entire
funding
for
the
Arts,
that
that
would
be
painful
on
our
budgeting,
but.
E
And
I
think
that
you
know
we've
heard
over
and
over
again
the
need
to
reduce
the
number
of
funds
that
are
directly
allocated
and,
while
that's
not
maybe
my
personal
favorite
thing
to
do
like
I,
would
like
to
allocate
the
funds
towards
all
the
things
that
I,
like
you
know,
we
don't
know
there
are
there?
Are
things
coming
up
in
this
next
election?
E
Like
you
know
the
Statewide
ballot
initiative,
that
would
limit
property
tax
collection,
and
could
you
know
that
or
a
recession
or
other
ballot
measures
could
cause
shortfalls
for
the
city,
and
it
is
good
for
us
to
have
flexibility
in
the
long
term.
E
B
So
just
the
the
reason
why
we're
here
having
this
discussion
is
because
of
the
direct
democracy
Provisions
that
are
written
into
our
city,
Charter
right
that
citizens
have
the
ability
to
pull
a
petition
and
gather
signatures
and
put
it
on
the
ballot
and
that's
why
we're
on
this
kind
of
accelerated
time
frame
is
because
we
had
dedicated
citizens
get
4
000
signatures
in
support
of
dedicating
the
entire
tax
charts
right.
B
So
that's
you
know
we're
being
brought
to
the
table
by
that
direct
Act
of
direct
democracy
and
I
am
impressed
by
their
efforts.
They've
done
really
hard
work
and
it
shows
the
amount
of
interest
there
is
in
stronger
funding
in
our
community.
But
I
do
worry
about
that
one
passing
on
its
own
because
it
would
entail
significant
Cuts
in
our
current
programming,
whereas
the
50
50
option
would
not
because
of
our
our
library
situation
that
we're
in
this
year.
B
So
the
Arts
are
incredibly
important
to
our
community
I
think
we
all
agree
on
that.
I
mean
they're,
the
the
Art
and
Soul
of
our
community,
if
I
might
even
say
so,
and
they
nourish
the
soul
of
our
community
and
the
way
that
we
have
targeted
our
criteria.
Recently,
they
go
very
heavily
towards
disenfranchised
populations,
the
the
funding
that
we
do,
that
we
deliver
so
I
think
there.
If,
if
the
the
50
50
measure
passes,
we
have
a
lot
of
opportunities
to.
B
You
know,
look
at
exactly
how
we
channel
that,
but
I
I
think
that
we
would
get
a
lot
of
benefits
for
our
Arts
Community
by
that,
and
it
would
be
done
in
a
way
that
our
budget
could
handle
and
if
we
put
the
two
competing
ballot
measures
on,
on
the
one
hand
that
it
creates
friction
and
divisiveness
in
the
community
and
I
think
the
outcome
where
the
100
Arts
passes
would
be
a
significant
financial
hardship
and
result
in
the
loss
of
essential
services.
B
So
I
I
think
the
50
50
is
a
good
way
to
go
and
that's
why
I'll
be
supporting
it.
Putting
that
as
as
moving
that
forward
tonight
so
now
all
of
this
is
spoken.
So
if
we
got
a
few
more
hands
raised,
if
maybe
people
can
be
quick
in
their
follow-up
comments
and
then
we
can
wrap
up.
I've
I've
got
Nicholas
Nicole,
Rachel,
Mark
Matt.
G
Z
G
So
I
don't
know
if
I'm
gonna
be
brief.
Aaron
but
I
I
will
say
I
I'm
confused
by
the
you
know,
we
got
a
lot
of
emails,
saying:
do
50,
50
and
promise
1.8
million.
So
you
know
mayor
Brockett
had
said
earlier,
like
it's
just
about
50
50
tonight
and
I.
Don't
I
didn't
read
those
emails.
It
was
like.
G
The
compromise
is
50
50.,
like
I,
saw
a
lot
of
emails
saying
this
is
only
good
if
you're
also
dedicating
that
1.8
so
I
might
need
a
little
clarification
from
the
people
who
were
negotiating
on
whether
if
we
say
50
50
and
make
it
crystal
clear
that
we're
not
saying
1.8
million
is
Promised.
Is
there
even
still
you
know
sort
of
a
a
whatever
kind
of
deal
that
was.
G
It
wasn't
voted
on
by
the
majority
of
council,
so
put
that
out
there
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
I
feel
like
I'm
on
sort
of
quicksand
with
with
whether
we
even
have
a
deal
but
I
think
we
also
owe
it
to
the
to
the
people
that
are
asking
for
this
deal
to
be
very
clear
whether
or
not
we
are
committing
extra
money
in
addition
to
the
50
50,
because
I
saw
a
lot
of
emails,
suggesting
that
that
was
part
of
this
deal,
and
so
for
me
that
that
part's,
a
no
and
I
just
think
that
that
that
probably
should
be
really
firmed
up
by
people,
so
that
the
kind
of
the
other
side
knows
what
we
are
talking
about
here.
G
I,
you
know,
there's
been
some
discussion
about
like
we'd
be
deciding
you
know,
I
want
to
be
clear.
This
is
all
either
way
it's
going
to
the
voters,
so
we're
not
deciding
anything
we're
just
deciding
what
to
put
on
the
ballot,
as
other
people
have
said.
So
it's
either
going
to
be
a
hundred
percent
or
50
percent
or
I.
G
Think
I've
heard
a
little
bit
of
support
for
possibly
a
variety
of
percents
on
the
ballot
and
I
know
that
that
is
not
the
deal
that
was
struck,
but
it
is
intriguing
to
me,
I'm
I'm,
confident
that
when
we
put
Excel
on
there
was
a
question
like
a
that
was:
do
you
want
to
settle
and
B?
If
you
want
to
settle,
do
you
want
to
continue
attacks
or
let
this
tax
expire
or
something
like
that,
so
I
do
believe
we
can
do
something
where
it's
you
know.
Do
you
want
to
extend
this?
G
If
so,
do
you
want
to
you
know,
do
you
want
to
extend
at
100?
Do
you
want
to
extend
it
75,
however,
I
would
I'd
be
curious
if
legal
could
give
us
the
options
of
you
know:
zero
twenty
five,
fifty
seventy
five
hundred
that
gets
to
Nicole's
like
let
the
voters,
decide
and
I
think
Lauren
wanted
the
same
thing.
G
So
you
know,
and
and
then
we
can-
we
can
know
like
I-
don't
really
trust
polls
that
much
anymore
locally
or
nationally
so
I'm
not
putting
a
whole
lot
of
stock
in
that
no
offense
to
the
lovely
gentleman
who
gave
us
that
information.
But
you
know
I,
don't
I,
don't
really
know
what
the
voters
want.
So
if
and
I
and
I
don't
want
to
go
back
from
our
side
on
a
compromise,
because
I'm
annoyed
with
the
other
side
for
doing
that.
G
So
but
I
think
it's
an
intriguing
option
and
I
would
be
curious
if
we
do
to
push
forward
with
asking
legal
to
bring
us
something
or
whatever
Department,
to
bring
us
something
next
week.
If
we
could
find
out
if
we
can
have
a
sort
of
scaffold
of
options
to
present
to
voters
thanks
foreign.
B
If
I
kind
of
come
back,
I
think
like
what
I,
what
I
heard
from
the
the
organizers
of
the
Arts
measure
is
that
they
would
like
more
general
fund
money.
But
they
understand
that
there
is
no
commitment
that
this
Council
can
make
to
that.
So
like,
for
example,
I'm
open
to
potential
general
fund
money
in
some
future
year,
but
I
can't
commit
to
it
and-
and
neither
can
any
of
us
so
I
think
that
is
understood.
F
Yeah
I'm
uncomfortable
making
arrangements
like
this
under
duress,
especially
when
it
violates
our
goal
of
not
having
more
dedicated
funds
and
is
not
consistent
with
our
general.
You
know.
Budgeting
processes
I'm
also
not
as
concerned
that
we
that
we
might
not
Prevail
at
the
election,
I
I
think
the
the
priorities
of
the
community
are
pretty
clear
and
I
think
that
the
priorities
we
set
forth
in
our
language
are
going
to
be
much
more
appealing
than
the
very
very
narrow
priorities
and
in
theirs.
F
But
having
said
that,
I
I,
you
know,
I
think
it's
our
job
to
try
to
compromise
where
we
can
and
avoid
conflict
where
we
can.
But
I
would
like
the
same
Clarity.
F
They
would
like,
with
respect
to
the
1.8
million
in
general
funds,
because
for
me,
I'm
prepared
to
double
their
budget
with
3.8
at
50
of
the
of
the
tax,
but
I
want
to
know,
or
at
least
get
a
sense
from
this
Council,
whether
or
not
they're
prepared
to
zero
out
the
rest
of
the
general
fund
money
so
that
this
is
a
doubling
of
their
budget,
not
a
tripling
of
their
budget,
because
I
think
that
is
simply
an
overreach
and
it's
it's
frankly
unprecedented
in
terms
of
what
we
provide
for
other
departments.
F
You
know
or
go
bankrupt,
but
I
I'm
very
concerned
that
going
past
that
and
giving
them
no
or
even
allowing
for
the
possibility
that
it's
going
to
be
dedicated
Forever
at
3.8
million.
And
on
top
of
that,
there's
an
expectation
and
there's
certainly
their
expectation
that
we're
going
to
throw
in
another
1.8.
On
top
of
that
and-
and
that
for
me
is-
is
simply
A.
Bridge
Too
Far.
B
What
I
just
say
there
is
that
they
they
can
have
no
expectation
of
1.8
and
but
I'm
afraid.
You
also
can't
have
an
expectation
of
zero,
because
it's
up
to
the
decision
of
Council
next
year
to
vote
on
in
the
budget
like
the
the
Council
next
year,
could
go
in
any
of
many
many
different
directions
on
this
and
many
other
things.
F
Well,
I
I
I,
you
know
I'm
in
such
substantial
agreement
with
Nicole
I
I
have
to
think
that
the
end
times
are
here
because
we
we
don't
always
get
to
agree
so
fully
on
any
issue.
But
we
do
on
this
and
I
I.
Think
she's
correct
in
her
analysis
and
I'm,
very
supportive
of
what
you
said.
B
Very
good
Nicole.
Z
Oh
thanks,
Mark.
That
was
an
excellent,
excellent,
laugh
and
man.
If
you
look
at
the
front
pages
of
the
the
newspaper,
certainly
the
interns
may
be
upon
us.
I
just
want
to
you
know,
be
really
clear
and
kind
of
Center
Us
in
where
we
are
I.
Z
Don't
think
anybody
on
this
council
is
lacking
an
appreciation
for
the
Arts
I
think
we
would
all
love
to
see
this
be
a
place
that
that
has
all
the
funding
that
they
need
and
then
some
we
also
have
many
other
places
that
are
in
need
of
more
funding.
We've
got
a
lot
of
Human
Services
kind
of
equity.
Centered
needs
in
our
community
Rising
rates
of
evictions,
more
need
for
housing
assistance,
basic
needs
assistance,
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
Z
I
really
would
love
to
move
forward
with
this
measure
that
3
500
people
signed,
as
well
as
with
our
original
measure.
If
the
signatures
represent
the
community's
desires
better
than
the
poll
does
then
we'll
be
following
the
community's
desires.
If
we
quadruple
the
Arts
funding
from
what
it
is
now
Arts
are
healing
too.
They
provide
a
critical
function
in
our
community
and,
if
that's
where
the
community
lands,
then
we'll
make
it
work,
we'll
figure
it
out.
Z
If
that's,
what
you
know
feels
important
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
ways
that
you
know,
Arts
funding
could
be
used
to
support
some
basic
needs:
housing
assistance
specifically
for
artists.
Things
like
that.
There
are
ways
that
we
can
figure
out
how
to
do
this,
but
I
really
would
like
to
let
the
voters
decide
so
that
we
don't
have
to
go
against
our
financial
strategy
that
we
put
in
place
of
trying
to
not
do
dedicated
funds
and
our
sustainability
equity
and
resilience
framework
for
how
we're
doing
budgeting
now
and
into
the
future.
Z
J
In
some
of
my
summaries,
I
hadn't,
actually
given
my
my
actual
personal
perspective
on
this,
so
sorry
I
tried
to
stay
agnostic
and
present
the
facts
as
they
were
and
let
my
Council
colleagues
speak
to
their
opinions
and
save
mine
here.
So
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
for
one
I
I
really
appreciate
the
com.
This
conversation
I
mean
this
is
fantastic
and
in
a
in
a
perfect
world,
Nicole
you're
100
right.
J
But
the
situation
was
been
a
much
more
short-timed
one.
It
came
over
our
recess
and
we're
backstopped
against
statutory
requirements
to
get
this
show
on
the
road
with
regards
to
our
ballot
measures.
J
So
there's
a
lot
of
those
things
that
put
us
in
a
position
to
be
making
a
a
somewhat
quick
decision,
albeit
still
an
informed
one,
because
we
have
two
choices,
and
this
is
where
I
feel
very
committed
that
the
compromise
is
a
better
way
to
make
sure
that
one,
in
the
hand,
is
better
than
two
in
the
bush,
and
yet
we
all
lose
a
little.
But
we
all
gain
something.
J
J
We
are
going
in
blind,
assuming
that
70
is
the
winning
number
and
it
may
not
be,
and
so
I
think
we
have
to
be
careful
on
on
just
making
those
assumptions
and
I
think
a
compromise
here
is
an
incredibly
good
way
to
make
sure
that
we
move
forward
with
the
Arts
community
in
a
collaborative
way,
because
it
could
go
in
a
bunch
of
different
ways
that
they
don't
win.
We
go
general
fund,
they
stay
low
on
their
funding
and
we
have
an
Arts
Community.
J
J
You
know,
funding
for
police
like
these
are
things
that
I
don't
think
we
want
to
give
up,
and
so
this
compromise
allows
us
to
still
have
an
opportunity
to
provide
some
support
for
the
Arts,
give
them
something
that
gives
them
Solid
Ground
to
stand
on
during
hard
Economic
Times
They
don't
have
to
look
over
their
shoulder,
that
their
knees
are
going
to
be
wiped
out.
It
also
gives
us
a
chance
to
preserve
some
of
our
Financial
Freedom.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
compromise
for
us
to
really
look
forward.
J
Put
some
of
this
behind
us
and
really
think
about
how
we
can
build
a
strong
Community
for
the
Arts
and
the
economic
Vitality
that
that
brings
and
as
Nicole
point
out,
the
healing
that
that
brings
so
I
support.
This
compromise
I
think
it's
a
great
place
for
us
to
start
and
it's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
to
move
forward
as
a
whole
community,
because
I
think,
if
we
do
this
compromise,
it's
going
to
get
85
percent
of
the
vote
and
that's
going
to
be
a
great
place
to
land.
J
Certainly
as
we
enter
a
political
climate
that
continues
to
be
a
little
bit
challenging.
So
I
support
this.
For
those
reasons
and
and
I
really
hope
that
we
can
get
to
a
place
where
this
gets
on
the
ballot
and
we
get
the
language
right
and
we
move
forward
in
November.
B
Thanks
man,
all
right,
I'm,
going
to
move
this
towards
a
direction
to
to
City
staff
to
the
question
on
the
table
is
whether
we
want
to
direct
City
staff
to
provide
an
alternate
ballot
measure.
That's
dedicated
50
to
our
spending
and
50
to
general
fund
funding
pure
and
civil.
That's
the
question,
and
so
the
question
is
whether
we
have
a
not
of
five
but
nods
are
too
subtle
for
Zoom,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
show
of
hands
of
who's
interested
in
moving
that
giving
direction
move
that
forward.
B
All
right
thanks
everyone
for
a
thorough
discussion.
There
are
a
lot
of
really
great
points
made
and
I
appreciate
everyone's
passion
for
our
budget
and
all
the
services
that
our
city
needs
to
to
provide
and
and
weigh
against
one
another.
So
Nuria
is
that
sufficient
for,
for
the
next
steps.
G
Thank
you.
I
have
a
question,
though
mayor
Brockett,
we're
not
committing
ourselves
to
vote
for
it
right
just
by
asking
for
this,
so
I
would
still
be
interested
to
know
from
staff.
If
we
have
the
option
of
a
couple
options
on
the
ballot
and
I
would
be
interested
in.
Knowing
from
those
of
you
who
were
you
know,
negotiators
or
whatever
the
right
legal
term
is
for
whatever
happened
to
know
is,
is
50
50
with
nothing
else
like
a
real
flat
X,
you
know
the
the
agreement
Mark
Wallach
can
live
with,
is.
G
Is
that
what's
on
the
table,
and
that
can
we
get
some
Crystal
Clear
affirmation
that
that's
true
so
wondering
if
I
might
have
support
for
I
hope
that
the
second
part
will
just
be
done
and
brought
back,
but
for
the
first
that
we
would
be
directing
staff
wondering
if
there
are
four
other
people
who
would
be
interested
in
that
information.
G
T
Felt
confident
that
I
can
have
an
answer
to
the
question.
What
we
will
not
be
able
to
do
is
bring
forward,
bring
forward
a
an
option
for
you
all
that
would
include
sort
of
those
cascading
questions.
That's
I'm
afraid.
That's
just
too
tight
to.
G
Z
Yeah
I
was
just
wondering
since
we've
got
maybe
a
week
or
so
until
it
comes
back.
Z
I
was
just
wondering
if
any
of
the
anybody's
staff
maybe
has
the
right
connections
here,
could
reach
out
to
some
of
the
Spanish-speaking,
either
centered
or
LED
Arts
organizations,
the
bypoc,
centered
or
LED
Arts
organizations,
and
just
try
to
get
some
feedback
from
them,
because
and
also
just
some
of
the
if
there
are
any
kind
of
Arts
organizations
that
are
led
by
lower
income
folks,
because
these
are
the
people
who
are
going
to
kind
of
see
the
biggest
trade-offs
in
this
and
I
it
just.
Z
It
feels
like
really
critical
information
to
me
that
we
have
even
some
basic
understanding,
just
kind
of
a
quick
check
in
with
folks
who
are
in
some
of
these
communities
that
are
likely.
If,
if
we
do
have
to
cut
things
they
may
be
in
those
communities
that
are
are
getting
the
bulk
of
the
cuts.
So
is
there
any
space
I
mean
since
there's
been.
You
know
a
lot
of
kind
of
negotiating
and
things
going
on.
Can
we
just
have
a
little
bit
of
conversation
with
some
of
the
bypoc
centered
cultural
organizations?
K
Councilmember,
just
a
point
of
clarity,
perhaps
and
I'm
just
trying
to
make
sure
and
without
permitting
I,
can
certainly
talk
to
staff
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
reach
out
if
that's
needed.
But
I
just
want
to
be
clear
on
whether
the
ask
is:
how
do
you
feel
about
the
competing
development
measures,
or
is
it
what
trade-offs?
What
do
you
think?
K
Z
Ask
yeah
I,
know:
I
appreciate
that
I
just
I
I
would
be
curious
to
have
perspective
on
these
different
ballot
measures
because
it
sounds
like
next
week
we'll
get
a
few
coming
back
to
us.
What
are
what
are
thoughts
there?
You
know
what
what's
the?
What
feedback
are
we
getting.
G
Hey
California
says:
is
there
any
way
we
would
get
a
statistically
valid
like
sampling
in
a
week,
because
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
to
have
us
do
something
that
is
just
like
three
people's
opinions
that
doesn't
I'd
be
leery
of
that.
If
we
can't
do
it
well,
I'm
not
sure
I
want
to
do
it,
because
that
might
mislead
us.
K
Well,
we
definitely
would
not
be
able
to
get
a
statistically
significant
sampling
and
again
I'd
have
to
talk
to
staff
about
it
and
what
it
would
be,
a
short
anecdotal,
qualitative,
not
quantitative,
and
we
would
be
very
upfront
to
share
with
you
all
who
we
were
able
to
hear
from,
and
not
so
we'd
know,
but
again,
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
talk
to
staff
and
see
what
we
could.
So
it
may
be
a
data
point,
but
it
may
not
be
a
statistically
valid
data
points
right.
It's
it's
and.
B
B
That
and
we're
not
making
final
decisions
next
week.
You
know
so
that
the
ballot
measures
aren't
being
finalized
for
a
while,
so
I
I'm
I'm,
you
know,
I'm
I
would
be
very
interested
in
getting
some
opinions
from
exactly
the
organizations
that
you're
talking
about
I
would
just
would
want
it
to
be
on
a
on
a
longer
time
frame.
So
there's
more
time
to
do
some,
a
little
bit
of
Outreach
and
not
to
overtax
staff
as
well
Nicole.
How
would
you
feel
about
it.
B
So
then
I'll
ask
Council
Julie
to
give
a
not
a
five
in
the
next
few
weeks
to
do
the
Outreach
that
Nicole
has
described
for
a
few
hours
of
Staff
time.
You
can
raise
your
hand
if
you
interested
in
that
I'm
getting
five
six,
so
yeah,
not
a
six
or
seven.
K
And
sort
of
figure
out
what
the
appropriate
approach
is
to
follow
that
direction.
G
And
maybe
also
with
engagement,
because
it
just
this
feels
a
little
loosey-goosey
to
me,
like
only
to
be
engaging
one
one
group
for
input
on
this
so
I'm.
That's
why
I
didn't
vote
for
it,
but
maybe
just
talk
to
Sarah
Huntley
about
how
we
we
can
best
do
that
in.
H
Thanks
I
have
a
quick
question.
It
goes
back
to
the
comment
about
the
different
levels
on
the
ballot
measure,
so
that
would
be
a
question
for
Teresa
and
then
maybe
Matt
can
follow
up
on
that.
If
we
alter
our
ballot
measure
to
include
aspect
of
another
group's
valid
measure,
do
we
have
to
have
their
agreement
because,
ultimately,.
H
We
are
threatened
and
to
I
I
think
that
would
be
unfair
if
somehow
we
incorporate
their
ballot
measures
into
ours
and
they
don't
agree
with
it.
If
that
makes
sense,
so
I
wanted
to
know
more
whether
that's
legally
something
that
we
can
do.
J
Thank
you
for
asking
that
Junior.
That
was
going
to
be
my
question
in
point,
so
I'll
say
having
spoken
with
them.
They
have
until
we
set
title,
which
is
roughly
around
the
first
week
of
September,
to
withdraw
their
petition
and
if
we
put
something
on
they
don't
like,
they
have
no
reason
to
withdraw
their
petition
and
then
we've
just
basically
negotiated
against
ourselves.
So
it
it's
really
important
that
whatever
we
do,
if
we
are
really
trying
to
compromise,
we
do
something
that
they
also
endorse
and
thus
give
them
motivation
to
withdraw
their
petition.
J
J
We
would
definitely
want
to
have
the
endorsement
of
this
petition
committee
to
actually
put
a
compromise
on
the
ballot,
so
this
sort
of
staggered
tiered
ballot
may
be
dead
on
arrival
for
them,
and
it's
probably
worth
us
checking
on
that.
But
but
let's
cross
that
bridge,
but
you're
100
correct
in
your
assessment
that
they
should
have
some
say
in
this
for
sure.
With
regards
to
their
bowel
measure,.
G
I
heard
juny's
question
different
though,
if
I'm
sorry,
sorry
mayor
but
I
thought
she
was
asking
like,
can
you
do
that
legally?
Like?
Can
you
have
a
competing
ballot
measure
that
is
like
partially
similar
to
or
overlapping
with,
I
think
the
answer
is
yes,
but
I
would
turn
to
Teresa
on,
because
I
think
I
think
I've
seen
the
city
do
that
in
the
past.
T
The
exact
same
language
that
is
in
an
initiative
there's
also
a
mechanism
by
which
Council
can
adopt
an
initiative
by
ordinance
I,
don't
think
that
I'm
hearing
Council
asking
to
do
that,
but
it's
certainly
possible.
You
know.
Also,
since
council
member
Benjamin
raised
this
issue,
we
cannot
require
the
committee
to
remove
something
from
the
ballot
they
can
voluntarily
agree
to
do
so,
but
but
but
but
it
isn't
there
at
their
discretion.
H
Thank
you,
I
think
that
goes
back.
I
just
wanted
to
add
I
suppose
I
mean
Bob
and
Matt
you've
been
working
on
this
for
a
while.
Now
you
have
the
muscle
to
maybe
do
the
Outreach
as
quickly
as
possible
by
understanding.
If
we're
coming
back
next
week,
can
we
get
all
this
negotiation
and
good
faith,
as
you
mentioned,
with
the
Arts
community
and
say:
hey
here's.
What
we're
thinking
would
you
be
open
to
now
this
new
process
or
new
way
of
putting
your
ideas
on
the
ballot?
H
Would
you
be
okay
with
it
and
then
hopefully,
we'll
have
both
both
of
these?
How
do
I
put
it?
We
have,
we
have
your
feedback
and
then
we
have
what
Rachel
asked
so
I
think
we
would
need
both.
We
don't
want
to
make
that
I
wouldn't
want
to
make
that
decision
without
knowing
that
the
Arts
Community
fully
supported,
because
as
of
today,
I
do
support
the
50.
So
if
I
support
50
and
then
you
come
up,
you
come
with
something
brand
new
to
me
and
I
know
the
Arts
Community
doesn't
support
it.
H
O
B
J
I'm
happy
to
I
think
I
can't
speak
for
Bob
or
Aaron,
but
I
think
we
would
happy
to
take
that
back
and
and
see
where
that
goes,
but
we
landed
at
50
for
very
strong
reasons
for
both
of
our
sides.
So
you
know
we'll
we're
happy
to
have
that
conversation.
Y
Just
to
be
clear,
we're
not
talking
to
the
art
community,
the
community
would
be
thousands
of
people,
and
we
are
talking
to
three
people
whose
names
are
on
the
on
the
petition.
We
have
the
legal
authority
to
withdraw
the
petition
if
they
choose
to
those
are
the
only
people
we're
talking
to
we've
gotten
dozens
of
emails?
We
haven't
talked
to
any
of
those
people.
We
have
no
idea
what
the
4
000
people
who
sign
the
petition
want.
You
have
no
idea
what
the
artist
Community
wants.
B
Thanks
for
the
clarification,
all
right,
I
would
love
to
wrap
this
item
up.
So
if
seeing
no
other
hands
raised,
let's
go
ahead
and
end
this
one
thanks,
everybody
for
a
robust
discussion
on
the
the
future
of
tax
funding
and
art
spending
our
community-
and
we
get
one
more
quick
item
before
before
we
can
rest
hey
Lisa.
We
have
a
one
more
matter.
C
Cac
requested
this
item
be
scheduled
tonight,
and
we
just
want
to
make
sure
council
is
aware
of
where
we
are
in
that
process
before
your
discussion
and
so
at
this
point,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
John.
To
give
you
that
quick
overview.
AE
Hey
good
evening,
city
council,
John
Moore
selections
administrator
here
here
to
bring
you
up
to
speed
on
how
our
recruitment's
going.
If
you're
going
to
do
the
next
slide,
please
Emily!
AE
So
a
quick
timeline.
We
opened
up
our
applications,
May
29th,
they
went
through
July
2nd.
After
that
we
took
time
to
process
our
applications.
There
was
a
good
chunk
for
a
few
boards
and
commissions
that
were
uneligible
due
to
property
owner
requirements
and
on
Tuesday
and
Wednesday
of
this
week,
council
members,
folkert
and
Weiner
accompanied
me
to
conduct
all
our
interviews.
They
are
completed
and
then,
as
of
right
now,
on
August
3rd
city
council
set
to
make
their
nominations
and
appointments
next
slide.
AE
Please
so
here's
a
breakdown
of
our
applications.
We
had
have
12
vacancies
right
now
and
we
received
12
applications
for
various
boards.
AE
One
thing
to
note:
here:
we
added
a
a
column
on
how
boards
fared
in
our
original
recruitment.
There
wasn't
too
much
change
in
a
few
of
them,
such
as
bla,
the
BJ
ads
and
then
a
few
others,
so
that's
kind
of
our
breakdown
there,
and
then
we
have
two
options
for
Council
on
the
next
slide.
Please,
okay,
one
moment:
I'm
gonna
move
my
faces
here.
So
I
can
read
the
question
okay,
so
we
have
two
options
for
Council.
AE
One
does
council
wish
to
extend
the
mid-year
recruitment
period
for
those
boards
or
commissions
that
did
not
receive
any
applications
or
still
have
vacancies?
If
so,
for
what
time
period
or
the
second
option
is,
does
council
wish
to
continue
recruitment
during
the
2024
annual
recruitment,
with
preparations
beginning
in
September
2023.?
B
Thanks
John,
we
got
a
couple
hands
up
already:
Nicole
and
Rachel
and
then
Tara.
Z
So
a
quick
question
then
I
think
I
can
get
my
response.
The
the
board
and
commission
applications
that
receive
zero
applicants.
This
time
they
also
received
zero
applicants
last
time,
I'm
remembering
that
correctly.
Z
Yep
yeah,
yeah
I
think
my
my
preference
then
would
be
for
two
unless
we
are
potentially
risking
some
of
the
board
work
by
not
continuing
to
try
to
fill
them,
but
it
seems
like
twice
in
a
row.
Let's
just
wait
till
next
time.
B
Maybe
we
can
frame
that
in
the
form
of
a
question,
would
any
board
lack
the
ability
to
do
their
work
if
we
didn't
recruit
somebody
new.
AE
My
knowledge,
mayor,
I,
have
not
heard
anything
about
any
boards
or
commissions,
not
meeting
Quorum
I
know
if
you
are
on
the
edge,
but
I
have
not
heard
of
any
not
yet.
Okay,
Rachel.
G
I
think,
if
I,
when
I
was
looking
at
that
chart,
it
said
we
have
12
applicants
and
and
total
and
12
open
board
positions
in
total.
So
just
want
to
Circle
back
to
a
question.
I
asked
last
time,
which
is
how
do
we
get
to
a
point
where
we
can
say
hey,
we
don't
have
a
spot
for
you
here,
but
would
you
like
to
serve
on
this
board?
G
These
are
people
we
know
want
to
give
back
to
the
city
and
may
have
multiple
interest
areas
and
may
have
only
thought
to
apply
for
open
space
or
whatever,
like
I'd
love,
to
give
everybody.
If
we
got
12
and
12,
why
wouldn't
we
make
that
work?
Can
we
make
that
work
will
be
qualified
for
you
know
certain
addresses,
or
you
know
if
they
don't
live
in
the
right
District,
but
for
the
rest,
if.
C
I
may
go
ahead
and
speak
to
that
John.
If
that's
okay
and
if
you
have
anything
to
add,
please
do
I
know
at
this
point:
council,
member
friend,
I'll
applicate.
All
applicants
have
the
ability
to
apply
for
multiple
boards.
We've
seen
that
throughout
the
last
you
know
all
the
recruitment
periods
I
think
what
we
probably
need
to
wait
and
do
is
to
for
to
see
what
the
consultant
is
going
to
do
when
they
do
that
overview
and
I
know.
C
We
are
in
the
process
of
scheduling
that
and
bringing
somebody
on
board
for
that,
and
that
might
help
the
situation,
but
right
now,
with
the
with
the
way
that
the
recruitment
process
is
set
up.
The
only
thing
that
we
can
do
is
probably
over
emphasize
the
fact
that
you
have
the
ability
to
apply
for
multiple
boards,
if
need
be,
because
each
board
has
different
questions.
C
So
we
can't
just
say
you
know
this
applicant
apply
for
this
board,
but
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
fill
out
another
application
to
fill
for
this
board
after
we
close
the
recruitment.
We
could
do
that,
but
I
think
that
would
be
kind
of
counterproductive,
but
they
do
have
the
current
ability
to
apply
for
multiple
boards
if
they
wanted
to
thanks
hope
that
answers
the
question.
Well,.
G
It
I
I
it
does
and
I
know
that
people
could
do
that,
but
they're
not
and
so
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is.
Does
anything
stop
us
from
going
back
and
saying
hey
thanks
for
applying
twice
in
some
of
your
cases
like
we,
you
know
we
picked
some
meals
for
that
board,
but
we'd
love
to
have
you
on
this
one,
because
if
we
can
do
that,
I
would
say
it's
been
such
a
lagging
recruitment
season
that
I
I
would
support
us
trying
to
to
plug
interested
people
into
opportunities
to
volunteer
and
advise
us.
G
C
I
think
what
we
would
probably
have
to
do
is
get
direction
on
from
Council
to
actually
figure
out
how
that
process
would
work,
because
there
is
the
interview
process
for
that
particular
board
and
those
particular
questions.
So
we
probably
have
to
kind
of
get
in
some
sort
of
outline
of
how
you
would
feel
that
you
know
that
process
should
work,
because
right
now,
the
first
step
in
the
first
process
consists
of
filling
out
the
applications
going
through
the
interview
for
that
specific
board.
G
U
U
So
it
is
pretty
complicated,
I
think
to
do
what
you're
asking,
even
though
I
wish
that
it
would
work
easily,
but
I
will
say
that
I'm.
When
are
we
expecting
that
consultant,
because
we
have
the
two
Boulder
Junction
boards
that
always
have
pretty
much
nobody
and
then
for
some
reason
the
liquor
board
can't
seem
to
get
people
I,
don't
know
if
it's
the
time
that
they
have
it
or
what
is
happening.
That's
what
I
would
want
to
be
on,
but
so
my
first
question
is
Alicia.
When
is
this
consultant
coming
on.
K
U
Soon
so
I'm
gonna
say
number
two
as
well,
because
I
don't
see
how
our
outcomes
would
be
different
by
just
extending
it
to
the
at
least
the
boards
that
are
I,
guess
least
popular
should
I,
say
I'm,
not
undermining
them
they're
great
boards,
but
so
I
I.
Think
too,
but
Rachel
I
hear
what
you're
saying,
and
it
is
really
a
good
idea,
although
way
more
complicated
than
it
seems.
B
Okay,
thanks
for
that,
I
got
two
people
saying
option
number
two:
let's
go
ahead
and
do
a
stronghold.
How
many
people
agree
with
waiting
until
next
year
for
their
recruitment
for
these
boards.
Just
give
yourself
a
hands
up
here
on
that
I
got
a
one.
Two
three
four
five
six
looks
like
so
it
looks
like
we
got
Council
direction
to
just
go
ahead
and
weigh
in
seven
Council
directional
weight
for
next
year.
On
that.
B
Very
good.
Well
that
brings
us
to
the
end
of
our
last
agenda:
item
Elisha
and
John.
Thank
you
so
much
at
least
you
for
sticking
us
out
sticking
it
out
with
us
and
bringing
the
clothes.
The
meeting
too
close
with
this,
it's
getting
pretty
late,
I'm
starting
to
not
talk
well
all
right.
Any
final
thoughts,
I've
seen
none.
J
I
just
have
one
one
quick
piece
at
the
very
end,
just
going
back
to
the
Arts
thing.
Do
we
want
to
do?
We
want
to
authorize
asking
the
city
attorney's
office
to
reach
out
to
the
petitioners
of
the
Arts
ballot
measure
with
regards
to
drafting
language,
because
if
this
is
a
combo,
it
makes
sense
that
there's
some
combination
input
so
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out.
J
T
So
I
have
a
point
regarding
timing:
the
packet
is
supposed
to
already
have
gone
out
for
next
week,
they're
holding
it
for
this.
J
But
then,
if
I
I,
my
personal
preference
would
be,
then
let's
get
it
on
to
First
reading.
If
they
have
comments,
we
can
make
that
fix
at
second
and
then
pass
it
on
third
I.
Don't
know.
If
anyone
cares
about
that,
but
and
then
then
we
have
at
least
a
process
going
forward,
but
I
appreciate
the
the
clarity.
B
All
right
thanks
all
right,
and
that
brings
us
to
a
close
all
right.
Thanks
guys,
it
took
a
little
while
to
get
through
all
the
issues,
but
I
appreciate
the
the
good
discussion
have
a
good
night
and
I'll
gavel
is
closed
at
10,
49
pm.