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A
Please
know
that
it's
absolutely
beautiful
here,
so
our
first
order
of
business
is
to
wish
farewell
to
Kevin
Bracy
knight
for
his
five
years
of
service
on
the
open
space
board,
which
followed
five
years
of
service
on
the
county's
parks,
open
space,
Advisory,
Committee
and
I'm,
going
to
read
the
fairly
lengthy
proclamation
to
honor
the
occasion.
So.
A
Materials
shared
with
the
open
space
Board
of
Trustees
and
often
through
his
own
inquiries
on
subjects,
offer
additional
perspectives
and
insights
that
enrich
the
thoroughness
of
topics
under
discussion.
His
numerous
contributions
include
the
following:
during
Kevin's
tenure,
the
open
space
and
mountain
parks
department
has
acquired
nearly
fourteen
hundred
and
fifty
acres
of
land,
including
Boulder
Valley
farm
Martinson
de
liar
ranch
coleman.
Oliver
suits
trust,
Lippincott,
fort
chambers,
poor
farm
ryan.
A
In
a
trail,
easement
area,
the
North
Hills,
what
north
foothills
Business
Park
through
Kevin's
five-year
term,
there
have
been
many
Raptor
fledging
x',
including
six
bald
eagles
15
golden
eagles
57,
Osprey,
33
peregrine
falcons,
19,
Prairie,
Falcons,
80,
burrowing
owl
and
eight
northern
Harrier.
Over
the
last
five
years.
A
The
open
space
Board
of
Trustees
an
open
space
and
mountain
parks
have
increased
their
investment
in
system
stewardship,
including
trails
stewardship
projects
which
Kevin
frequently
championed
largely
completed
all
trail,
repairs
related
to
the
2013
flood,
crafted
the
north
trail
study
area
plan
and
the
agricultural
resources
management
plan
and
recommended
changes
in
guiding
principles
in
the
Boulder
Valley
Comprehensive
Plan
Update
Kevin
helped
guide
the
first
master
plan
for
the
department
through
several
key
stages
and
positioned
it
well
for
successful.
Completion
and
Kevin
has
shown
great
support.
A
Enthusiasm
for
data,
informed
management,
supporting
staff
efforts
to
invest
in
data
collection
and
analysis,
reflecting
on
research
and
findings
shared
with
the
OSB
T,
enhancing
his
understanding
through
thoughtful
questioning,
providing
guidance
based
on
information
and
promoting
making
information
accessible
to
the
public.
The
support
of
stewardship
principles,
research,
respectful
and
productive
community
engagement
has
provided
staff
with
a
sense
of
confidence
and
build
great
trust
between
the
OS
BT
and
the
department.
Now,
therefore,
I
Tom
Isaacson,
it's
in
bold.
A
Terribly
open
space
board
of
trustees
do
hereby
proclaim
that
the
leadership
exhibited
by
Kevin
Bracy
knight
over
these
past
five
years
has
been
instrumental
to
the
success
of
this
board
in
the
open
space
program
proclaimed
this
27th
day
of
March
in
the
year
2019.
On
behalf
the
open
space
board
of
trustees
in
the
open
space
in
mountain
parks,
department.
B
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
second
to
express
my
gratitude
for
having
been
able
to
serve
on
the
board
with
you
for
two
years.
Although
I've
been
friends
with
Kevin
for
15
years,
you
know:
we've
shared
periods
about
door,
adventure
together
and
we've
gone
through
periods
where
time
where
life
has
taken
us
in
really
different
directions.
B
But
I've
always
been
impressed
with
your
deep
intellect
your
drive
to
learn
new
things,
even
in
a
phase
in
life
where
normal
people
want
to
give
their
brains
a
break
like
your
kindness
and
patience
and
trying
circumstances
your
commitment
to
cause
your
ability
to
speak
passionately
and
clearly
in
defense
of
principles
you
hold
dear
and
your
knack
for
decomposing
technical
material
into
metaphors
that
people
can
understand
with
their
hearts
and
minds.
So
of
course,
you
brought
all
these
skills
to
your
time
on
Oh,
SBT
and
and
I'm
just
grateful
to
be
here
serving
with
you.
B
A
Curt
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
added
that
he
wants
to
thank
you
for
always
reminding
us
of
the
value
of
the
raw
data
and
the
importance
of
sharing
it
with
the
public.
I
think
that
is,
that
does
capture
a
lot
of
the
sort
of
specialized
scientific
knowledge
and
way
of
thinking
that
you
brought
to
this
board
and
I
personally.
The
thing
that
struck
me
more
than
anything,
was
that
you,
almost
without
exception,
brought
interesting
perspectives.
That
reflected
you
know.
A
Clearly,
your
own
experience,
your
knowledge,
your
perspective,
your
values
that
you
didn't
fall
into
sort
of
easy
way
of
thinking
about
problems
that
you
brought
up
point
of
view.
That
I
think
we
all
benefited
very
much
from
hearing
and
a
point
of
view.
That
often
you
know
we
probably
wouldn't
have
heard.
If
you
hadn't
been
around.
D
E
I
just
say
as
well:
I
know:
Dan
is
off
enjoying
Spring
Break,
but
I
didn't
know,
he'd
like
to
be
here
and
just
personally
say
his
gratitude
and
thanks
for
the
service
you
provided
and
I
think
I'll
just
also
state.
You
know
one
of
the
things
we
deal
with
a
lot
of
important
and
serious
issues
that
we
have
to
wrestle
with,
but
you
also
one
of
the
qualities
you
typically
bring
in
as
a
moment
of
laughter
to
and
I
think
that's
really
important.
E
A
A
On
favor,
all
right
all
right,
so
the
next
item
is
public
comment
for
items
not
identified
for
public
hearing.
The
one
item
for
public
hearing
tonight
is
the
disposal.
So
anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
on
any
other
topic,
that's
the
time.
This
is
the
time
to
do
so.
We
have
it
looks
like
9/10
people
signed
up
so
three
minutes
each
and
think
someone
is
pooling.
So
five
minutes
for
the
pooling.
A
G
Thank
you.
My
name
is
ina
Robbins
and
I
have
spoken
to
you
before
on
behalf
of
Friends
of
Wonderland
Lake
again,
we
thank
you
for
your
responsiveness
to
the
concerns
that
have
been
raised
about
infrastructure
at
the
lake
by
taking
a
pier
and
boardwalk
off
the
table
and
initiating
a
more
thorough
assessment
of
community
needs
and
desires
for
the
lake
area.
G
As
stewards
of
this
wildlife
sanctuary,
we
continue
to
have
concerns
about
the
potential
for
building
structures
in
and
around
the
lake,
as
well
as
the
dubious
narrative
that,
in
order
to
provide
youth
nature,
education
infrastructure
like
a
waiting
area,
would
be
necessary.
The
Leave
No
Trace
Center
for
outdoor
ethics
is
based
right
here
in
Boulder.
They
are
a
treasure
trove
of
resources
for
youth
education
without
detriment
to
habitat.
We
understand
that
Oh
SMP
is
facing
a
30%
shortfall
in
funding.
G
We
suggest
that
not
building
structures
at
Wunderland
lake
would
be
an
excellent
way
to
conserve
funds
and
conserve
the
lake
area.
What
is
needed
at
the
lake
is
maintenance
and
improvement
of
existing
trails
and
fences
signage,
to
inform
visitors,
about
proper
conduct
to
protect
and
respect
the
habitats
and
regular
patrolling
to
enforce
existing
regulations.
G
Finally,
our
group
has
submitted
a
request
in
petition
with
over
600
signatures
to
the
city
of
Boulder
for
a
commemorative
named
change
that
would
title
the
lake
as
Wunderland
Lake
Wildlife
Sanctuary,
without
changing
the
legal
status
of
the
lake
area.
We
hope
this
name
change
would
convey
to
visitors
that
this
area
is
to
be
treated
with
the
reverence
the
sanctuary
deserves.
Thank
you.
Thank.
H
Also
want
to
thank
you
for
hearing
the
concerns
of
the
community
regarding
the
proposed
child.
Is
it
wonder
than
Lake
and
basically
for
everything
you
do
I
think
it's
wholly
work?
You
do
On
January
15th
during
the
meeting
at
North,
Boulder
Rec
Center.
One
of
the
questions
you
received
was
about
the
signage
developed
by
open
space
naming
Wunderland
lake,
a
wildlife
sanctuary.
This
was
in
part
the
OS
MP
response
in
the
late
1980s.
H
The
open
space
department
identified
the
need
to
reduce
the
effects
of
undesignated
user-created
trails
and
other
off
trail
youths
along
the
shorelines
of
Wunderland
lake.
This
word
sanctuary
was
used
to
communicate
the
function,
importance
and
value
of
the
area,
especially
the
lake
in
shoreline
as
wildlife
habitat.
The
combination
of
Education,
Ranger,
patrol
and
infrastructure
were
supported
by
the
community,
and
evidence
of
undesignated
trails
decreased
in
a
no
longer
evident.
Today
it
was
a
brilliant
system.
The
split
rail
fences
blend
beautifully
with
the
surroundings.
Wait.
H
H
H
That
pictures
not
upside
down
the
sign
is
I'm
here
to
report
that
just
a
few
months
without
signs
naming
Wunderland
Lake
a
wildlife
sanctuary
along
with
a
year,
so
offense
is
being
neglected
to
the
point
of
dereliction
and
the
message
being
communicate
at
Wunderland.
Lake
now
is
here's
the
line,
but
whatever
I.
H
Could
show
more
here's
our
valiant
Canada
geese
huddled
together
on
a
morning
where
temperature
started
at
minus
seven
two
weeks
ago,
I
noticed
that,
after
going
through
the
long
cold
winter,
they
were
making
those
especially
squawky
sounds
that
mean
it's
time
to
leave
the
huddle
and
pair
off
in
their
favorite
nesting
sites
on
the
shoreline.
On
that
day,
there
were
literally
hundreds
of
water
fell
in
the
lake,
then
I
watched
a
couple
of
young
men
launch
a
large
remote-control
motor
boat
from
the
peninsula.
H
They
drove
their
boat
right
into
the
flocks
of
waterfowl
for
the
fun
of
watching
them.
Take
flight.
The
day
after
that
incident,
there
were
almost
no
wild
birds
in
the
lake.
They
are
very
gradually
returning
now
and
within
the
next
few
weeks,
wildlife
of
all
kinds
will
be
staking
out
their
nesting
territory
in
Wunderland
shoreline,
as
the
fences
have
degraded
there's
been
an
increase
in
off-trail
use
along
the
shorelines
of
Wunderland
lake.
I
Hi
guys
Molly
Davis
by
6
3000
Corey
court
Kevin.
Thank
you
for
your
service.
I
know
how
much
work
it
was
and
I
agree.
There
were
a
lot
of
times
that
Kevin
brought
out
things
that
I
didn't
even
consider.
It
was
great
I'm
coming
to
you
to
talk
to
you
about
the
condition
of
the
agricultural
Lance
tonight.
I'm
just
gonna
focus
on
Boulder
Valley
Ranch.
I
I
Cows
would
fetch
this
kind
of
money
at
the
end
81,000
in
the
market
that
it
is
right
now
and
because
Bob
lover
didn't
have
a
crazy
plan.
He
had
to
get
rid
of
50
counts,
the
loss
to
him
was
$36,000.
When
you
sell
cows
prematurely,
you
also
lose
the
cast,
but
you
you
lose
the
bloodlines,
so
the
income
loss
keeps
going.
This
was
the
conditions
of
the
ranch
where
he
boards
horses
and
horses
out
at
the
ranch
or
for
porting,
but
he
also
uses
the
horses
for
working.
I
This
is
now
the
condition
that
that
same
area
is
because
the
prairie
dogs
that
pasture
will
be
gone
by
this
fall,
we're
now
starting
to
pop
with
the
prairie
dogs.
So
it's
gonna
start
to
even
look
worse.
I
sent
my
nonprofit
and
sent
people
to
photograph
all
the
conditions
on
the
ranch,
so
we'll
be
bringing
you
pictures
progressively
about
that,
and
I
asked
someone
to
come
tonight
to
talk
about
large
acclaim
damage
to
animals
when
they
step
into
holes,
so
for
were
steps
in
the
hole
like
this
it
most
like
who
had
break
its
leg.
I
I,
don't
think
we'd
be
quick
enough.
We
done
the
prairie
dog
working,
but
we
really
have
not
made
a
significant
move
to
do
something
about
this
problem.
We
should
ask
herself
during
the
mouse
or
flan,
is
this:
the
stewardship
model
definitely
want.
This
is
vibe
lovers.
Standing
in
front
of
one
of
the
mounds
amounts
get
much
larger
on
irrigated
grounds,
because
it
makes
it
much
easier
for
the
dogs
to
dig
in
the
way
that
we
write
our
leases.
We
limit
our
legacy,
farmers
and
farmers
to
have
an
AUMF.
I
Many
animals
are
allowed
to
have
a
unit
if
we
came
out
with
lessee
and
we
saw
these
kind
of
conditions,
we
wouldn't
write,
at
least
for
him,
so
I
thought
I'd
put
a
few
things
that
really
get
home.
This
is
36,
and
this
is
where
you
see
a
lot
of
bicyclists
riding.
These
are
huge
holes
on
the
land
right
on
the
side
of
the
road
and
here's.
The
leases
you'll
notice
that
Boulder
Valley
Ranch
leases,
fifteen
hundred
and
twelve
acres.
I
The
occupation
of
parade
dogs
is
fifty
five
percent
half
of
his
ranch,
although
he
still
pays
for
the
lease
is
covered
by
prairie
deluxe.
So
I'd
like
to
point
out
at
the
bottom,
the
blip
property
we
paid
a
million
660
for
that
and
it's
useless
now.
This
field,
which
used
for
for
hey,
that's
86,
acres,
I,
went
out.
You
can't
get
any
equipment
on
that.
This
is
Part
B.
This
is
part
of
the
irrigated
lands,
and
this
is
where
the
pasture
is.
I
We
have
senior
water
rights,
so
the
thing
that
that
means
to
me
is
we're
running
our
water,
we're
irrigating,
prairie
dog
goals.
Bob
told
me
that
one
of
the
holes
to
fit
to
chase
the
dogs
out
in
the
spring,
because
we
can't
do
anything
else
when
he
did
that
he
I'm
running
out
of
time
here
he
had
an
hour
and
a
half
to
fill
the
hole
up
with
water,
which
we
figure
is
probably
about
200
gallons
I'm
gonna
send
this
presentation
to
you,
so
you
can
see
it
just
got
it
done
about
15
minutes
ago.
I
J
Evening
sorry,
I'm
Judy
snook
a
longtime
build
a
resident,
I,
just
retired,
from
a
job
and
child
abuse.
Having
served
about
almost
52
years,
which
brings
me
to
the
fact
that
I
have
boarded
out
at
Boulder
Valley
Ranch
for
50
years
and
that's
long
before
it
became
Boulder
Valley
it
used
to
be
Green
Valley
and
it
used
to
be
a
dude
ranch.
I
have
been
through
many
Lee
C's
or
managers
if
you're
gonna
call
them
that
and
I.
Think
Bob
lover
is
the
best
one
who
has
maintained
land
properly,
but
it's
very
difficult
again.
J
As
you
heard
about
the
prairie
dog
holes,
I
have
a
horse
out.
There.
I
think
he
recently,
you
know,
stepped
in
a
hole
and
luckily
hopefully
didn't
break
his
leg,
but
he's
doing
better
now,
but
it's
devastating
I've
watched
over
the
years.
You
know
I
watched
the
prairie
dogs
I've,
been
there
long
enough
to
know
that
there's
been
a
cycle,
I
think
somehow
we've
messed
the
balance
of
nature
and
we
have
tripled
the
number
of
prairie
dogs
that
are
out
there.
J
It's
amazing
that
they're
on
the
roads
there
on
the
trails,
a
biker,
could
get
hurt
if
they
hit
one,
a
human
being
can
get
hurt.
I
think
it's
important
to
maintain
our
land
and
not
think
of
buying
more.
We
need
to
maintain
what
we
have.
We
have
a
diversity
out
of
the
ranch.
We
have
a
Hispanic
population
and
look
at
the
diversity
in
terms
of
recreational
use.
We
have
cows,
we
have
horses,
we
have
bikers.
We
have
dogs,
it's
amazing,
it's
a
working
ranch
and
how
valuable
is
that?
J
But
we
need
to
be
stewards
of
our
land.
You
know
and
take
care
of
it.
Bob
knows
how
to
do
that,
but
he
can't
do
it
with
all
the
holes
and
the
prairie
dogs
pretty
soon
they'll
be
up
in
the
parking
lot.
You
know
and
it's
gonna
be
gone.
I
think
it's
very
sad
that
we
spent
a
lot
of
money
purchasing
something
and
are
not
maintaining
it,
and
that's
just
the
prairie
dogs.
We
need
to
maintain
the
rest
of
the
ranch.
You
know
the
structures
etc.
J
I
think
this
is
extremely
valuable
for
our
future
for
our
future
generations
to
experience
the
agriculture
life
and
that's
what
they
do.
I
clean
the
believe
in
our
own
auction
I
clean
the
paddocks.
Do
the
mucking
out
there
and
often
will
watch
as
families
are
you
know
waving
at
the
horses
and
the
cows,
etc?
It's
this
kind
of
like
wow.
They
enjoy
that
this
is
a
piece
of
nature
that
they
can
have.
Please
please
work
on
taking
care
of
this
problem
and
preserving
this
valuable
piece
of
property.
K
K
So
if
a
person
would
happen
to
be
writing
their
Orson
that,
then
the
risk
is
also
of
injury
to
the
human,
especially
a
head.
Injury
I
know
the
leases
of
or
the
leaders
of
both
Boulder
Valley,
Ranch
and
Boulder
Valley
farm,
and
neither
of
those
people
will
ride
their
horse
together,
their
cattle
off
with
those
pastures
that
are
full
of
prairie
dog
holes
for
because
of
the
risk
of
a
horse
stepping
in
there
and
hurting
the
horse
and
also
hurting
themselves.
K
K
K
K
The
prairie
dogs
over
grades
at
grass,
no
water
now
its
barrel,
and
now
the
wheats
move
in
all
the
noxious
weeds,
this
old,
bindweed,
Russian,
knapweed
and
then
from
then
you
have
no
productivity
and
then
you're
gonna
have
a
hard
time,
400
people
that
want
to
lease
that
land
because
they
can't
grow
anything
on
it.
That's
the
pattern-
and
it
goes
over
and
over
every
time.
Thank.
A
And
I
should
note
on
this
subject.
Sorry
I've
just
take
one
second,
okay,
we
do
have
the
prairie
dogs
issue
on
our
agenda
for
the
meeting
in
two
weeks
of
exactly
two
weeks
from
today.
We
have
that
issue.
We
also
have
there's
two
tours
that
are
being
set
up,
so
members
of
the
board,
members
of
City,
Council
and
others
can
tour
properties
that
are
particularly
impacted
by
prairie
dogs.
One
was
on
April.
Second,
one
is
in
April
seventeenth.
A
L
Good
evening
I'm
Raymond
bridge
for
35
South,
38th
Street
in
Boulder
and
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
1600
members
of
the
Boulder
County
Audubon
Society
I'm.
In
considering
the
guiding
principles
of
the
master
plan,
we
suggest
that
you
should
look
to
the
system
overview
specifically
table
3-1,
which
lays
out
departmental
goals
and
objectives
to
fulfil
its
charter
purposes.
It
states
where
there
are
real
or
potential
conflicts
between
nature
and
human
use.
In
the
boulder
mountain
parks,
preference
will
be
given
to
sustaining
nature,
both
for
its
intrinsic
values
and
its
value.
L
One
of
your
other
topics
this
evening,
the
recommendations
of
the
prairie
dog
working
group
weirds
that
you
strongly
advocate
continuing
to
follow
the
grassland
ecosystem
management
plan.
I'm,
not
talking
about
agricultural
property.
It's
now.
The
ecosystem
management
plan
was
adopted
by
this
board
in
2009
and
City
Council
in
2010.
We
need
to
continue
to
manage
OS,
MP
properties
for
eco
systems,
and
it
is
folly
to
assume
that
our
grass
lands
can
absorb
all
the
prairie
dogs
displaced
by
development
elsewhere.
L
M
High
polish
Schuler
45
69
watt
Road,
my
husband
and
I,
live
in
farm
on
private
property
in
North
Boulder
County.
We
are
sustainable
agriculture.
This
160,
acre
farm
has
been
in
the
same
family
for
over
a
century
and
we
plan
to
continue
for
generations
to
come,
but
the
city
of
Boulder
is
making
this
very
difficult.
Our
land,
our
livestock
and
our
livelihood
are
being
negatively
affected
by
prairie
dogs
migrating
from
one
place.
Stratton
and
Brubaker
city
owned
irrigated
AG
parcels.
M
We
have
a
huge
conflict,
it's
expensive
time,
consuming
and
discouraging
to
battle
prairie
dogs
coming
from
open
space.
It
is
so
wrong
that
we
have
to
defend
our
property
from
prairie
dogs
because
we
have
a
horrible
neighbor,
the
city
of
Boulder,
the
city
of
Boulder
values,
prairie
dogs,
above
agricultural
land.
You
have
a
prairie
dog
working
group,
but
who
do
you
have
to
defend
the
AG
land?
Prop?
You
know
to
defend
AG
lands.
You
don't
have
anyone
you're
supposed
to
trust,
ease
and
open
space.
You
guys
are
supposed
to
be
doing
that.
M
The
city
is
only
concerned
with
protecting
the
prairie
dogs,
but
at
what
cost
recommendations,
decisions
and
policies
are
being
made
that
are
destroying
property
and
livelihoods.
You
need
to
change
that.
Why
aren't
you
concerned
about
protecting
the
AG
lands
from
prairie
dogs
where's?
The
ban?
The
city
has
come
into
our
neighborhood
and
has
allowed
the
prairie
dogs
to
destroy
irrigated
AG
parcels.
This
is
against
your
land
objectives
and
it's
certainly
against
ours.
Prairie
dogs
do
not
belong
on
irrigated
AG
land.
M
Open
space
paid
3.2
million
dollars
for
Stratton
in
2007
and
in
10
years,
has
succeeded
in
ruining
it
because
prairie
dogs
go
unmanaged
and
have
completely
taken
over.
Those
parcels
have
been
irrigated
since
the
late
1860's,
when
the
Crocker
and
the
Johnson
were
made
ditches
and
now
they're,
almost
negative,
arrogant,
both
you're,
incapable
the
vegetation
is
gone
and
the
topsoil
and
the
organics
are
blowing
in
the
wind.
Brubaker
is
almost
worse.
These
are
just
two
parcels.
M
Prairie
dogs
are
decimating
over
a
thousand
acres
of
city-owned
irrigated
AG
parcels,
you're
irreplaceable
assets
through
Boulder
County,
and
nothing
is
being
done.
No
management,
zero
stewardship
you're
supposed
to
be
preserving
agriculture,
not
destroying
it
Boulder
claims
to
be
excellent.
Land
managers
and
wonderful
stewards,
I
know
and
live
a
very
different
reality.
You
need
to
value
and
protect
irrigated
AG
lands.
Yours
and
ours.
Relocation
as
a
management
tool
is
not
working.
The
city
of
Boulder
needs
to
use
lethal
control
when
appropriate,
and
if
you
want
sustainable
agriculture
as
you
profess
lethal
control
is
appropriate.
M
N
Mike
barrow
1103,
Alexandria
and
Lafayette
I'm
here
to
say
kudos
to
kevin
and
thank
him
as
well,
but
I'm
also
want
to
address
the
board
because
I've
been
coming
to
these
meetings
since
the
1990s
and
I've
seen
a
lot
of
dysfunction
behind
that
dais
over
the
years.
But
I
gotta
say
that
this
board
and
the
board
molly
was
on
as
well
have
been
some
of
the
most
productive
and
civil
and
best
data-driven
groups
of
people
that
I've
ever
witnessed
on
this
board,
and
I
know
all
too
well
how
hard
this
job
is.
N
And
I
can't
thank
you
enough
for
your
service
and
kevin.
I
know
you
know
they
rattled
off
a
whole
bunch
of
things
that
you
were
able
to
push
through,
but
they
didn't
mention.
The
one
thing
that
I
think
was
the
most
amazing
thing
that
you
did
in
your
tenure
here
and
that
was
to
sneak
in
at
a
very
late
hour
into
the
OS
MP
budget,
an
entire
trail
crew
to
be
added
to
the
budget
for
the
following
year,
and
that
has
made
a
difference
on
our
trails.
N
C
N
Anyway,
the
only
other
comment
I'd
like
to
make
it
has
to
do
with
the
Comets
that
you've
already
received
this
evening
and
about
the
condition
of
Boulder
Valley
Ranch.
We
have
a
North
Trail
study
area
completion
and
we
know
what
we
generally
plan
to
do,
but
we
aren't
going
to
wrap
our
arms
around
that
for
what
three
to
five
years,
Steve
yeah.
N
One
of
the
things
that
probably
pains
kevin
the
most
about
his
tenure
here
is
the
push
that
he's
made
from
the
board
to
staff.
You
guys
deal
with
whatever's
on
your
agenda,
but
you
rarely
put
something
on
the
agenda
to
make
happen
and
I'll
just
put
it
out
there
I
think.
Maybe
you
ought
to
consider
that
kind
of
a
flow
instead
of
all
the
stuff
coming
from
staff,
bring
something
forward
that
you
want
a
champion
anyway.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thanks.
O
As
you
know,
John
Potter
did
some
excellent
work
in
regard
to
transparency,
and
so
we
actually
have
scoring
now
for
for
the
the
bids
that
were
offered
this
year
and
how
they
were
scored
and
awarded,
and
so
I
wanted
to
review
that
with
you
and
and
unfortunately
it
reveals
that
that
the
problems
are
still
there.
So
you
know,
as
you
know,
I've
been
a
farmer.
Now
I
have
twenty
six
years
experience
in
farming.
O
Sixteen
years,
full
time
grew
up
here
in
Boulder,
grew
up
hearing
all
these
wonderful
visions
about
how
Boulder
has
an
opportunity
to
use
our
public
lands
to
kickstart,
a
local
food
system
to
kick-start
regenerative
agriculture.
We
were
told
for
years
and
years
and
years
this
older
generation
of
farmers
they're
moving
on,
and
it's
just
a
matter
of
time,
hang
in
there
do
the
right
thing:
do
your
best
and
you'll
be
able
to
access
Boulder,
AG
land
and
that's,
unfortunately,
not
not
happening,
and
so
the
the
new
weighting
system
is.
O
That's
just
not
what
we
want.
That's
just
not
good
enough.
So
as
we
look
at
the
the
the
results
from
this
year's,
there
were
six
bidders
that
bid
on
okay
backing
up.
There
were
six
properties
that
were
offered
or
that
were
announced
that
would
be
offered
back
in
January
of
2018
and
the
event
none
of
those
were
offered.
They
were
all
assigned
to
current
lessees
without
going
through
a
bidding
process
or
to
their
successors,
let's
say
and
then
a
different
two
were
offered.
O
Only
one
of
those
is
really
suitable
for
livestock
operations
like
mine
and
by
the
way,
it's
really
hard
to
farm
without
land.
It's
really
really
hard
and
there's
very
few
big
parcels
that
are
in
private
hands
because
of
the
aggressive
and
wonderful
acquisition
strategy
of
the
city
and
the
county,
and
so
they're
very
little
parcel.
So
you're,
the
only
game
in
town
and
so
what's
happened
now
is
on
this
property,
the
King
Hudson
property.
There
were
six
bidders
three
of
them.
O
I
would
categorize
as
conventional,
old-style
operators
with
big
operations
with
thousands
of
acres
of
public
land
and
to
whom
a
additional
field
will
make
a
very
little
difference,
and
there
were
three
of
us
that
were
regenerative.
Local,
sustainable
local
food
focused
with,
for
whom
one
field
will
make
a
huge
difference
and
it
was
scored
just
as
predicted.
The
top
three
were
the
conventional.
The
bottom
threw
the
regenerative.
Our
farm
was
the
4th
scoring
bed,
but
there
were
some
big
problems
in
the
consistency
of
how
these
things
were
done
even
on
the
fit.
O
So,
as
you
know,
we
spent
a
lot
of
money
reaching
out
to
the
city
population
asking
them.
What
do
you
want
to
have
happen
on
your
land
and
I
guarantee?
None
of
them
said
you
know
what
let's
have
conventional
agriculture,
large-scale
abuse,
the
land
have
very
little
local
food
or
none
that
comes
out
of
it.
That's
not
what
the
AG
resource
plan
is,
and
yet
the
conventional
operations
two
out
of
three
got
a
higher
fit
score
than
we
did
or
then
then,
the
other
two
regenerative
type
operations
something's
wrong.
O
P
Hi
good
evening,
I'm
Mel
Cushman
I
live
in
one
three.
Four
five
Oh
North
Senecas
Street,
Longmont,
Colorado
and
I-
was
a
member
of
the
prairie
dog
working
group
and
I've
been
hesitant
to
speak
because
I
didn't
want
to
have
a
overlap
of
that
until
the
working
group
presented.
But
tonight
I
am
going
to
speak.
P
When
the
this
establishment
of
this
territory
was
a
US
government
project,
they
sent
Abel
Cushman
was
a
Union
soldier
and
he
was
sent
here
to
appropriate
water
rights,
established,
provable
farmsteads,
build
schools
and
established
territory
in
order
to
qualify
for
statehood,
and
those
ditches
and
hay
fields
have
been
irrigated
and
harvested
by
this
family.
For
the
last
hundred
and
sixty
years,
these
families
are
comprised
of
the
oldest
family-owned
and
operated
businesses
in
Colorado.
It
wasn't
even
Colorado
when
they
started
them
and
the
riparian
areas.
We
have
so
many
amazing
birds.
P
These
guys
love
having
these
birds
live
on
their
ranches
and
they
live
on
the
ditches
they
dug
by
hand,
and
they
love
him
and
even
dwayne
generously
told
me
once
you'll
never
get
rid
of
all
those
prairie
dogs
and
you
want
to
anyway,
because
the
birds
love
them,
but
we
have
prioritized
for
one
species
over
another
and
that
wheel
is
wobbling.
I
told
that
to
mark
Davidson
during
the
egg
plant
process
and
I
think
working
with
the
Audubon
Society
and
honestly.
P
If
you
did
something
about
the
prairie
dogs,
you
could
take
some
of
those
lands
that
are
out
of
production
because
of
prairie
dog
habitat
and
have
more
releasable
lands
for
hungry.
But
it
doesn't
matter
because
you
can't
farm
without
soil
either
and
we
watch
it
blow
away
all
the
time
and
it
is
heartbreaking
that
I
can
put
numbers
to
it.
P
Just,
for
example,
the
367
acres
of
hay
fields
that
are
occupied
by
prairie
dogs.
Now
it's
easy
I've
heard:
oh
you'll,
never
be
able
to
figure
out
a
calculation
for
USDA
Department
Colorado
agriculture.
Three
point:
six
eight
tons
per
acre
yield
last
year,
average
price
168.
It
comes
to
two
hundred
twenty
six
thousand
dollars,
I
mean
I,
can
put
figures
to
it
and
that's
just
the
hay,
not
the
cattle
we're
going
backwards.
That
is
not
sustainable.
P
We
need
to
I,
have
a
couple
guys
I,
think
of
as
my
village
chiefs
and
one
of
them,
I
won't
say,
which
one
graciously
told
me
a
few
years
ago,
then
I
think
we
made
a
mistake
with
this
Prairie,
don't
think
and
I
don't
think
he
meant
having
some
prairie
dogs.
He
just
meant
having
nothing
to
take
care
of
the
places
where
they
overlap,
and
that
is
starting
to
show
up
in
a
hurry
and
for
every
hour
I
spend
on
Duane
operation
is
comprised
of
county
and
city
properties.
P
He
manages
a
huge
chunk
of
this
landscape
and
he
was
over
at
a
county
meeting
yesterday,
which
we
did
spend
as
much
time
on
the
prairie
dog
issue
over
there,
and
it's
come
to
a
point
where
we
have
our
set
operating
numbers
which
are
big.
These
are
big
businesses,
it's
a
lot
of
capital
operate
them
and
they
have
set
it
on
I
know
you.
A
That
we
close
the
public
comment
part
of
the
agenda
and
go
to
matters
from
the
department
and
I
probably
should
mention
in
case
anyone
has
been
looking
at
the
agenda.
The
the
boulder
open
space
Conservancy
issue,
which
had
been
scheduled
for
what
would
have
been
this
meeting
March
13th
edition
of
it
will
that
issue
will
be
taken
up
at
our
next
meeting
on
April
10th.
Q
Hi
everyone,
so
we
are
here
tonight
to
give
you
an
update
to
date
on
our
fourth
engagement
window,
which
we
are
in
the
middle
of
nearing
the
conclusion
of
want
to
just
touch
on
how
we're
starting
to
move
towards
a
draft
and
final
plan.
It's
getting
pretty
exciting
and
talk
just
a
little
bit
about
as
a
light
touch.
What
future
planning
might
look
like
after
the
master
plan.
That's
something
that
we'll
introduce
tonight
but
expect
further
conversation
throughout
the
year
and
even
into
next
year.
Q
Q
To
revise
those
then
worked
with
our
staff
to
produce
the
latest
version
that
was
brought
to
the
community
at
our
recent
community
workshop
and
those
materials
are
also
available
online
and
we
got
70
people
at
our
workshop,
which
we
were
thrilled
about,
especially
giving
some
into
some
of
the
scheduling
issues
that
emerged
with
City
Council.
But
we
got
some
comments
from
the
community
on
those
outcomes
and
strategies,
although
we
were
pleased
to
see
that
they
were
fairly
minor,
which
to
us
means
that
we
really
are
moving
towards
consensus.
Q
And
so,
as
we
move
into
the
draft
plan,
you
might
see
some
minor
adjustments
to
the
language
of
those
outcomes
and
strategies,
but
they
will
be
just
that.
My
hair
and
so
I
want
to
give
kudos
honestly
to
the
board
for
your
work
on
that
and
representing
the
public
feedback
and
moving
us
towards
that
that
place
of
consensus,
oops,
and
so,
as
you
might
also
remember,
from
our
February
study
session.
Q
We
did
not
have
as
much
time
as
we
had
hoped
to
talk
about
those
guiding
principles
and
so
I
wanted
to
bring
those
up
here
in
just
an
overview
slide.
I'll
bring
this
slide
back
up
at
the
end
of
my
presentation
and-
and
we
expect
and
welcome
discussion
from
you
on
those
tonight,
but
just
as
a
reminder.
Q
We,
these
are
also
already
a
reflection
of
input
from
the
board
and
even
community,
and
so
we
also
want
to
thank
and
recognize
the
work
that
you've
done
on
these
and
we're
particularly
excited
even
about
that
very
first
one
about
uniting
conservation
and
Recreation.
We're
really
moving
towards
some
pretty
inspiring
language
as
it
relates
to
that
and
and
some
of
the
others
as
well.
Q
And
I
know
that
we
also
at
that
February
study
session,
worked
in
depth
with
you
on
defining
the
questions
for
the
statistically
valid
survey
and
again
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
If
you
remember
the
work
around
the
question
about,
if
you
had
$100
that
question
itself
has
been
lifted
out
as
I
know,
you
know
at
the
workshop
we
did
an
exercise
around
that
in
person
where
members
of
the
community
were
able
to
put
stones
in
the
jar
representing
a
certain
amount
of
money.
Q
We've
also
pulled
that
exercise
out
into
a
set
of
micro
engagements,
and
so
we
were
lucky
to
work
with
our
partners
at
El
Centro
mossad
to
host
another
focus
on
focus
group
at
which
we
had
24
participants
from
I
believe
8
different
countries.
We
worked
with
our
partners
at
youth
opportunities,
advisory
boards
about
15
high
school
students,
doing
the
same
exercise.
Q
And
so,
just
as
a
recap
about
about
this
particular
valid
survey,
we
did
get
in
total
of
a
hundred
and
over
170
comments
from
board
council
and
our
process
committee
to
get
us
to
that
final
version
of
which
again
is
just
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
and
thought.
So
thank
you
for
that.
We
did
take
it
to
City
Council
and
got
their
ultimate
support
of
the
questions
themselves
and
all
surveys
have
been
mailed
out.
So
that's
pretty
big
milestone
so
congrats
to
all
of
us.
Q
Sorry
that
says
it's
May
14th
has
just
recently
been
changed,
and
so
just
as
a
reminder,
what
we're
doing
with
all
of
this
input,
we
really
are
again
working
towards
the
draft
plan
and
that
will
be
available
to
the
public
on
May
8th
for
a
couple
of
weeks
through
the
22nd
and
we'll
use.
That
input,
then
to
inform
a
joint
study
session
with
our
four
full
board
and
City
Council
on
June
11th
and
then
have
our
subsequent
study
session.
Q
With
just
the
board
that,
following
evening
on
June
12th,
we'll
then
use
that
input
and
guidance
to
inform
the
next
iteration
of
the
draft
plan,
which
would
be
available
for
review
by
both
OS
BT
and
the
Planning
Board.
And
then
we
are
asking
for
City
Council
approval
on
September
3rd.
So
it's
getting
close
yeah.
Q
So
as
we
think
about
that
future,
where
the
master
plan
is
adopted,
there
are
additional
planning
needs.
We
know
that,
and
we've
always
talked
about
that.
The
kind
of
strategies
the
master
plan
would
develop,
are
sort
of
in
three
buckets
so
to
speak.
One
is
around
plans.
Future
plans
that
we
may
need.
One
is
around
projects
or
programs
and
the
others
around
policies,
and
so
want
to
just
talk
about
one
sort
of
set
of
those
those
strategies
and
those
are
the
plans
and
the
master
plan
is
guiding.
Q
Future
area
plans
will
also
guide,
though
both
the
CIP
and
our
work
plans,
and
we
know
that
there
are
also
elements
again:
the
functions
that
we
provide,
that
also
inform
the
CIP
and
work
plans,
but
again
we're
just
focusing
on
the
ways
that
plans
inform
those
elements
and
so
again
here's
just
sort
of
a
synopsis.
As
we
look
at
the
kinds
of
area
planning
we've
done
in
the
past,
the
kinds
of
planning
we've
done
for
our
four
quadrants
of
the
system.
Again,
we've
looked
at
grassland
planning
agricultural
planning.
Q
We
also
have
some
precedent
in
the
past
of,
for
example,
or
south
Boulder
area
management
plan,
or
in
the
case
of
the
North
Area.
We've
done
a
North
Boulder
vet,
North,
Boulder
Valley
area
management
plan,
as
well
as
our
TSA
is
in
the
past,
and
so
recognizably
in
the
east
is
where
we
do
not
have
any
existing
TSA
planning.
Q
And
again
we
see
tonight
as
sort
of
light
touch
in
the
introduction
and
opening
up
of
this
conversation.
We
anticipate
that
through
the
development
of
the
draft
plan,
as
it
goes
through
the
study
session
and
then
board
and
planning,
board
review
and
council
will
get
future
input
on
a
sort
of
a
general
approach,
a
general
sort
of
short
term,
mid
term
long
term
approach
to
which
of
these
plans.
We
might
need
to
do
in
which
general
order.
Q
But
then,
following
the
adoption
of
the
master
plan,
we
have
the
commitment
to
come
back
to
the
board
at
the
end
of
this
year
or
early
next
year.
To
then
talk
in
more
depth
about
the
scope
and
the
process
and
the
approach
to
what
these
area
plans
may
need
to
be,
and
so
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear.
Also.
Q
And
so
just
to
summarize,
some
of
our
next
steps
and
then
I
want
to
open
it
back
up
for
conversation
and
we'll
bring
the
slide
back
up
about
guiding
principles.
Are
the
engagement
window
that
we're
in
right
now
engagement
window
forecloses
on
April
7th?
That's
when
the
online
questionnaire
closes
we'll
be
preparing
a
great
I'm,
pretty
excited
about
the
conversation
that
we'll
have
with
you
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
Q
Kevin
will
miss
you,
certainly
where
we're
talking
about
financial
sustainability
and
our
approach
to
funding
scenarios
and
what
that
means
from
a
prioritization
standpoint
and
then
again,
we'll
come
back
as
a
presentation
with
staff
and
move
through
the
SEC
move
through
the
schedule
there
I've
summarized
it
I'm
in
other
places,
but
I'll
give
you
a
minute
here
to
digest
any
of
these
dates.
You've
seen
them
before,
but
if
you
have
any
questions
about
this
or
the
rest
of
my
presentation,
certainly
let
me
know
and
thank
you.
F
I
have
a
quick
question
on
the
schedule
and
it
came
up
today
because
the
new
survey
has
been
promoted
on
next-door
and
publicly
on
email
lists
and
so
forth
and
I
think,
because
there's
an
overlap
of
the
window
for
online
input
and
the
survey
that
Mary
suggested
the
format
changes
on
the
overlap
of
those
two
public
input
survey.
Online
surveys
is
causing
some
confusion
in
the
public,
and
people
think
that
they
just
did
the
survey,
so
they
must
have
already
done
that.
F
I,
don't
know
what
the
answer
is
about,
how
to
distinguish
those
two
but
I.
Think
it's
really
important
from
the
public's
perspective
to
make
sure
that
the
public
knows
that
there
are
two
different
surveys
going
right
now
and
that
just
because
they've
just
finished
the
OSM
p
survey
doesn't
mean
they've
finished
both
of
those
because
one's
looking
at
financial
priorities,
if
I'm
not
wrong.
F
Q
I'll
just
have
one,
but
thank
you
for
pointing
out
that
confusion.
We
can
certainly
clarify
that
and
in
a
follow-up
email
to
our
listservs,
there's
only
one
open
there
is,
you
know.
We
know
we
mailed
the
actual,
statistically
valid
surveys
to
6,000
questions
to
6,000
households.
So
there
is
the
chance.
We
recognize
that
those
same
people
you
know,
there's,
perhaps
an
overlap
there
in
terms
of
whether
they
sent
us
the
mailed
version
and
answered
online,
but.
F
D
F
F
R
C
Q
C
As
I
got
the
digital
survey
late
last
week,
I
sort
of
had
this
moment
of
pondering
I'm
like
well
wait
a
minute
we're
doing
this
statistically
valid
survey
and
now
I've
got
a
certain
I've
got
the
same
survey
which
will
make
this
not
statistically
valid.
That's
because
because
obviously
this
becomes
a
very
biased
sample.
What
are
you
going
to
do
with
this,
and
my
thinking
was?
Is
that
like
asking
to
do
something
and
then
not
using
it
like?
C
We
get
are
different
from
like
the
populace
at
large
in
this
way,
and
that
might
be
something
that
you
could
really
talk
to
when
you
get
these
results
in,
because
I
think
people
will
wonder
what
the
hell
did.
I
just
fill
this
online
survey
out,
for
if
the
statistically
valid
one
is
the
one
that
was
mailed
out
and
I
don't
count,
and
this
might
be
a
good
way
to
evaluate
that
and
I
also
think
it's
probably
really
valuable
to
say
here's
what
the
online
survey
said.
C
But
if
you
really
want
the
like
a
valid
survey,
you
need
to
be
really
clear
that,
like
we
can't
use
this
in
the
same
way
like
if
you
really
want
to
know
what
the
values
of
the
people
of
Boulder
are.
You
can't
use
the
online
survey
except
to
say
that
people
who
are
online
feel
differently
from
the
actual
people
of
Boulder
in
this
way.
So
now
we
know
and
and
I
think,
that's
really
important,
especially
since
I
filled
it
out
18
times.
F
I
just
make
it
another
comment
about
and
I
think
it
has
to
do
with
what
you
were
just
showing
about
the
interaction
of
the
master
plan
with
the
some
plans
and
so
forth.
Okay,
it
it
has
to
do
with
page
three
in
the
information
that
was
in
the
packet
mm-hmm
about
a
proposal
that
focuses
on
four
geographic
areas.
F
Q
So,
absolutely
again,
we
wanted
to
open
the
conversation
tonight,
knowing
we
couldn't
close,
it
we'd
like
there
to
be
additional
process
around
it
and
in
fact
we
want
to
reach
out
to
the
process
committee
to
get
further
guidance
about
how
best
to
do
that
within
the
master
plan.
But
we
will
say
Karen
it
just
initially
that
those
are
proposed
based
on
the
existing
boundaries
for
the
TSA
planning,
and
so
there
would
be
no
change
to
that.
It
would
more
be.
Q
The
shift
would
be
rather
than
rolling
out
a
set
of
or
completing
our
TSA
plans
for
our
four
quadrants
as
we
move,
for
example,
into
the
East
part
of
the
system,
we
would
do
an
init.
We
would
approach
it
from
an
integrated
standpoint
where
we're
looking
at
all
charter
purposes,
still
with
the
same
opportunities
to
discuss,
trail
connections
or
experiences,
etc,
etc,
but
also
in
line
with
you
know,
grassland
needs
agricultural
needs,
etc.
So
and.
Q
Looking
towards
those
area
plans
to
do
that,
and
so
we
might
you
know
in
our
previous
TSA
approach,
have
focused
on
perhaps
although
they're
around
trails
and
visitor
experience
and
the
amenities
needed
to
support
that.
We've
done
that,
certainly
within
the
context
of
charter
purposes,
no
doubt,
but
wanting
to
bring
online
at
at
equivalent
level
of
guidance.
It
again
to
inform
our
CIP
in
our
work
plans
the
kinds
of
needs
and
opportunities
around
ecosystem
restoration
or
looking
at
agricultural
needs
pulling
in
the
agricultural
plan
and
providing
an
equivalent
amount
of
guidance
around
all
of
those.
Q
A
Is
the
vision
that
issues
like
Boulder
Valley
Farms
are
some
of
the
other
larger
properties
that
we've
acquired
on
the
east
side,
for
which
there's
no
current
management
plan
that
they
would
be
folded
into
some
sort
of
East
Side
planning
process?
They,
as
you
say,
transcends
that
not
just
trails.
It's
all
the
AG
issues
and
other
broader
set
of
issues.
Yeah.
D
So
we
get
that
their
policy
direction
and
then
the
goal
is
that
by
next
summer,
would
be
coming
back
to
the
board
and
through
a
series
of
meetings.
But
probably
by
next
summer.
2020
I
should
say
would
then
be
saying
to
the
board
yeah.
He
is
this
the
right
way,
we'll
move
forward
with
the
planning
from
a
system
level
and
an
area
level
in
the
future,
and
that's
when
we'll
be
making.
You
know
the
final
decisions
on
that.
So
this
is
just
to
open
up
initial
contract.
A
Does
that
make
sense
to
me
because
I
think
the
question
of
how
best
to
tackle
the
various
planning
issues
that
are
on
the
5
or
10
year
horizon
is
actually
quite
a
complicated
one
and
I.
Don't
personally
think
the
master
plan
needs
to
lay
all
of
that
out
in
great
detail,
because
some
of
that's
actually
pretty
complicated,
stuff
and
I
would
just
say
my
own
two
cents
is.
A
We
need
to
be
mindful
of
how
long
some
of
these
bigger
planning
processes
take,
and
you
know
we're
a
long,
long
ways
from
implementing
the
North
TSA,
which
was
basically
done
three
years
ago
and
that
we
need
to
be
careful
of.
Are
there
issues
like
the
gun
barrel,
Hill,
which
sort
of
got
what
otherwise
have
been
in
the
East
TSA,
but
sort
of
got
pulled
out
and
be
mindful
of?
A
Are
there
other
situations
where
we
really
ought
to
pull
something
out
of
some
more
macro
level
planning
process
and
say:
let's
have
something:
that's
targeted
at
that
where
it's
you
know,
kind
of
a
manageable
set
of
issues
that
can
be
handled
relatively
quickly.
I
think
we
may
discover
that
there's
a
actually
a
fair
amount
of
that
out
there
of
problems
that
really
ought
to
be
tackled,
and
you
know
I
some
sort
of
makeup
plan.
A
That's
gonna,
take
a
very
long
time
to
get
done
and
even
further
to
get
implemented
may
not
in
all
cases,
be
the
right
tool,
but
I
think
that's
just
a
way
of
saying
I
think
there's
actually
a
serious
question
about
how
best
to
complete
the
rest
of
the
system-
and
you
know
the
master
plan
probably
doesn't
need
to
define
all
of
that
at
a
great
level
of
detail.
But
it
does
sort
of
you
know
trigger
the
process
of
thinking
about
it.
D
Mm-Hmm
yeah
I
mean,
and
you
know
some
levels-
that's
that
policy
direction.
The
master
plan
would
provide
to
move
forward
hey
in
a
year,
get
it
figured
out.
One
one
thing,
I
think
is
interesting.
That
Darren
and
I
and
Steve
had
spoke
about
today
in
a
no
Kurt
had
said.
Yes,
please
take
your
time
on
this
process.
That's
he's
not
here
tonight,
but
he
said,
let's
really
think
about
it
and
get
some
public
involvement
get
board
approval
as
it
were.
D
We
know
the
master
plan
itself
got
a
project
management
plan
that
the
board
recommended
an
approval
arm
that
went
to
Council
who
had
approval.
That's
proven
incredibly
useful
for
us
as
staff
that
fault
that
you
get
the
scope
and
the
project
management
plays
before
you
move
ahead
with
a
plan,
and
we
know
to
the
future
that
there's
that
level
of
details
then
provided
where
we're
supported
by
the
board
in
the
process
as
it
were
and
what's
the
type
of
process
we
need
to
make
that
happen.
Well,
that's
in
the
project
management
plan.
Q
B
B
And
I
think
that's
because
we
saw
how,
in
all
of
the
TSA
processes,
community
passions
run
extremely
high
and
I
think
that's
because
in
a
sense
the
TSA
s,
people
would
bring
in
things
outside
of
trails.
As
things
to
weigh
against
the
trail
study
process,
it
wasn't
trails
taken
in
a
vacuum
and
so
I
can
see.
The
area
planning
has
some
taking
a
greater
context
in
weighing
all
the
different
components
of
the
system
is
appropriate.
B
D
C
Of
adding
to
that,
because
I
was
gonna
have
a
matter
from
the
board
and
now
I'll
just
talk
about
it
now.
Anyways
is
I'm
really
struggling
with
unending
public
process
and
I
think
that
this
needs
to
be
critically
addressed
shortly,
and
in
this
as
a
way
of
dealing
with
it
is
we
can't
have
a
public
process
for
the
big
area.
C
Then
a
public
process
for
a
small
area
then
revisit
the
smaller
Perea
process
because
of
a
stream
crossing
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
again,
it's
unfair
to
the
public
who
are
really
concerned
about
something
to
have
them
have
to
come
over
and
over
and
over
again
to
express
their
their
interests.
I,
don't
know
what
the
solution
is,
but
I
think
that's
the
biggest
failing
that
I've
seen
from
the
TSA
is
that
we
say
that
great
we're
gonna
go.
C
Do
this
and
then,
as
we've
seen
over
and
over
again
like
oh,
no
we're
not
gonna
put
a
pier
in
Wunderland
like
well
wait.
We
already
agreed
we're
gonna,
do
that.
That
was
part
of
a
compromise
and
now
we're
visiting
this
one
little
area
as
part
of
this
bigger
thing
and
people
are
frustrated
so
finding
some
way
to
streamline
this
I,
don't
think
the
answer
to
your
problems
is
more
public
process.
C
I
think
the
answer
is
more
aniss,
with
a
better,
more
concrete
plan
from
the
beginning
from
staff,
so
that
people
have
a
really
clear
idea.
What's
gonna
happen,
then
they
can
say
I,
don't
like
it
or
I,
do
like
it
or
change
it
this
way,
and
then
don't
ask
them
again
just
go:
do
it
as
much
as
the
extent
possible
within
the
law,
etc,
etc,
because
I
think
that
you'll
get
a
better
result
and
generally
people
don't
like
change.
C
So
if
you
keep
bringing
up
ideas
about
change
over
and
over
again,
you're
gonna
keep
running
into
people
who
don't
like
it
and
so
come
up
with
the
right
thing
to
do,
and
I
actually
think
this
is
a
great
time
to
visit
that
in
this
master
plan,
I
have
one
more
master
plan,
an
idea.
If
you
want
to
put
back
up
your
whatever
the.
C
That
one
so-
and
this
is
something
I
feel
like
I've-
closed
my
circle,
because
when
I
first
got
here,
the
first
thing
I
said
was
I.
Think
that
if
you
want
to
have
better
environmental
management,
you
need
to
have
recreation
management
and
when
I
talked
about
that,
we
talked
about
the
visitor
master
plan
and
said
well.
We're
not
really
gonna
make
big
changes
that,
because
we're
gonna
revamp
this
whole
thing.
C
We're
gonna
turn
it
into
the
master
plan
and
then
we're
gonna
really
think
about
how
we're
gonna
deal
with
recreation
and
whether
we
need
a
recreation
master
plan
and
the
last
few
times
that
I've
brought
this
up
in
various
big
scale
plans.
That's
been
the
thing.
Wait
till
the
master
plan
we're
here
now,
I
think.
If
you
want
to
unite
conservation
and
Recreation,
you
need
to
have
a
comprehensive
recreation
management
plan.
It
needs
to
be
a
separate
entity.
C
It's
not
the
visitor
experience
plan,
it's
a
recreation
management
system
so
that
you
really
have
an
idea
of
how
to
minimize
environmental
impact
by
creating
a
positive
recreation
experience.
I
think
you're
already
on
the
right
track.
I'm
just
saying
that
I
think
that
that
would
speak
volumes
to
your
intent
to
manage
recreation.
C
Yes,
for
the
sake
of
making
sure
the
environments
better,
but
for
the
sake
of
making
recreation
better,
which
is
what
a
lot
of
the
public
wants
as
well
and
I,
think
that
it
needs
to
have
its
own
status
and
it
needs
to
be
called
recreation
or
fun,
or
something
like
that.
It's
it's!
It
needs
to
be
very
clear.
A
B
Get
a
little
tired
of
why
Boulder
feels
that
we
almost
must
always
be
exceptional
and
a
leader
in
everything
and
when,
at
a
time
when
we
are
strapped
financially,
there's
gonna
be
so
many
things
to
act
upon
in
this
master
plan.
Why
do
we
feel
compelled
to
innovate
and
lead
in
sustainability?
Resilience?
B
But
let
me,
let
me
add,
on
yeah
I
see
value
in
that
for
inspiring
staff.
That's
like
the
one
thing
that
makes
it
important
to
me
is
like
I.
Want
you
guys
to
show
up
and
enjoy
doing
your
jobs,
that's
important
to
me,
but
for
the
sake
of
being
an
innovator
and
and
have
the
rest
of
the
world,
look
up
to
us.
That
part
doesn't
interest
me
as
much
I.
Q
You
know
from
that
perspective,
that
we
want
to
be
doing
that
in
a
way
that
is
respecting
and
integrating
the
ecosystem
needs,
for
example,
and
the
resilience
needs
and
the
climate
action
commitment
that
we
have
as
a
city
and
trying
to
be
a
partner
with,
for
example,
with
other
city
departments
in
that
effort
and
making
sure
that
we're
playing
our
part
and
so
I
think.
That's
probably
the
you
know
the
heart
Andreea
of
where
that
went
emerged
from
but
I
don't
know
good
yeah.
So.
B
Q
Think
that's
a
fair
way
of
saying
it,
although
the
one,
the
one
caveat
I
might
say,
is
that
I
think
the
part
about
you
know
our
legacy
from
our
tagline
I
think
that
our
community
and
our
staff
is
feels
very
lucky
and
proud
to
be
a
part
of
a
community
that
passed
a
few
first
municipal
tax
for
open
space.
That
is
one
of
the
first
communities
to
have
purchased
and
preserved
land.
Q
F
C
C
D
We
nearly
we
need
to
figure
out
exactly
working
for
that
and
how
that
goes
forward.
Steve
mentioned
its,
it
might
not
be
the
week.
Nicole
played
everything,
but
what
can
we
do
as
a
system
to
keep
it
between
fair
and
good
condition,
instead
of
everything
in
good
condition?
What's
that
reality
look
like,
and
that
will
be
a
great
conversation
to
have
that
guidance
in
the
master
plan
is
then
we
get
into
the
implementation
piece
next
year,
I.
C
C
We
got
a
lot
of
people
last
night,
I
was
out
helping
fix
a
trail
that
got
ran
over
by
a
motorcycle
and,
like
30,
people
showed
up
out
of
the
woodwork
on
a
Tuesday
and
I,
like
staff
labor
for
Boulder
County
was
was
one
person
and
everyone
else
was
volunteer
and
we
got
a
lot
done
so
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
whole
thing.
That's
not
tapped
into
by
cost-effectiveness.
Okay,.
A
Would
add
a
it's
a
separate
guiding
principle?
There
is
part
of
all
voices,
but
it's
somewhat
different
and
it's
an
explicit
recognition
of
to
use
the
buzz
phrase,
social
equity,
but
there's
two
distinct
components
here.
One
is
the
process
which
is
what's
recognized
by
all
voices,
which
is
to
hear
from
people
who
don't
normally
hear
from
that's
actually
different
from
recognition
of
social
equity
as
an
actual
sort
of
planning
objective.
That
is
that
the
system
as
it
exists
you
know
kind
of
on
the
ground-
ought
to
be
developed,
managed
revised
with
an
eye
towards.
A
So
what
is
the
broader
equity
within
which
we're
operating
here
and
it's
you
know,
sort
of
one
of
the
dirty
little
secrets
of
open
space
that
it's
not
a
secret,
that
we're
funded
with
the
sales
tax,
which
tends
to
be
aggressive,
but
it
is
what
it
is.
I
mean:
that's
how
we're
funded
we're
not
going
to
change
that
I.
Don't
think.
But
it
is
a
truism
of
that
is
how
we
get
our
money.
But,
as
our
survey
showed,
the
average
user
of
open
space
makes
a
hundred
thousand
a
year
and
I.
A
Not
to
think
about
that.
We
ought
to
be
thinking
about
about
what
is
sort
of
some
of
the
and
it
gets
into
these
issues
of
also
with
parking
frankly,
where,
if
someone
wants
to
use
parking
as
their
mechanism
for
controlling
access
to
something,
we
ought
to
also
candidly
recognize
that
that
is
not
a
socially
equal
solution.
A
C
I'd
like
to
you
know,
Tom's
comments,
I
think
as
its
worded
here
there's
it's
really
valuable.
That
I
think
you've
done
a
great
job
of
saying,
like
how
you're
gonna
reach
out
to
try
and
essentially
hear
a
broader
range
of
community
input.
I
think
there
is
this
other
side
of
this.
That
I
think
you
kind
of
touched
on
and
if
I
got
what
you're
saying
wrong.
C
I
think
maybe
just
a
little
bit
of
tweaking
in
the
language
to
say
something
along
the
lines
of
the
the
goal
is
to
to
increase
the
excitement
and
usability
for
this
broader
range
of
people
and
I.
Believe
it
was
common
in
the
email
comment
that
you
wrote
about.
The
plants
and
wildlife
have
fundamental
rights
that
I.
C
And
and
my
feeling
is
strongly
like,
as
a
conservation
biologist,
no,
we
have
great
respect
and
love
for
them.
We
need
to
care
for
them,
plants
and
wildlife,
don't
have
sentience
and
the
ability
to
come
and
speak
for
what
they
want
or
need,
and
I
think
that
they're
there
they're
not
expressing
a
voice
in
this
process
either.
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
do
conservation
I'm,
not
sure
that
this
is
the
right
guiding
principle
for
for
their
the
value
of
those
things.
C
R
Q
An
outline
perspective
sort
of
her,
so
we
see
them
coming
and
we've
always
said
that
the
the
general
structure
of
the
master
plan
at
the
very
end,
one
of
the
last
sections-
is
that
kind
of
general
action
plan.
So
it's
giving
kind
of
a
general
arc
about
the
short
term
midterm
and
long
term.
Work
that
we'll
get
to
work
on
something
exciting
is
happening
back
there.
Q
Q
D
D
It's
interesting,
you
know
Lauren
I'll
be
coming
near
soon,
for
instance,
with
the
budget
package
is
guiding
principles
in
the
budget
package.
They
don't
decide
the
dollar
amount,
but
they
set
a
framework
they're
thinking
about
the
process
and
how
we
operate
the
budget.
So
we
I
guess
that's
another
analogy
the
way
to
think
about
these,
and
we
know
it
wasn't
in
the
original
scope
of
the
master
plan.
It
was
something
that
emerged
and
I
think
the
sense
from
staff
was
oh
yeah.
D
D
Q
C
C
C
D
E
T
Jim
reader
trails
and
facilities
manager,
as
Steve
indicated
I'd
like
to
spend
just
a
couple
of
minutes
with
you
talking
a
little
bit
about
our
recently
held
open
house.
We
hope
that
that
becomes
the
first
annual.
That's
our
plan,
and
so
we
would
like
to
get
tonight's
presentation
really
is
to
get
your
impressions
of
that
meeting.
T
His
project
was
highlighted,
one
of
those
that
we
talked
about
with
the
upper
bear.
Canyon
reroute
and
you've
got
a
memo
in
the
back
at
about
that
particular
project.
But
we
did
talk
like
I,
say
about
17
different
projects
at
the
end
of
the
night,
I
felt
very
positive
about
it.
I
had
several
people
come
up
to
me
and
thanked
me
for
doing
that.
T
I
thanked
us
for
doing
that
meeting
and
with
the
hope
that
we
would
do
it
again
and
we
certainly
plan
on
doing
that,
so
we
did
receive
as
we
expected
some
criticisms,
some
thoughts
about
how
we
could
have
done
things
differently,
particularly
on
some
of
our
trail
alignments
and
and
are
some
of
our
stone
walls
that
we
used
to
support
those
trails.
So
we'll
learn
from
that.
Take
those
in
consideration,
but
at
the
present
time,
I
just
like
to
open
it
up
to
you
and
have
you
respond?
T
B
One
thing
that
and
I
thought
it
was
a
great
event
and
one
thing
that
made
it
a
great
event
for
me
was
the
staff
to
everyone
else.
Ratio
like
I
felt
like
I,
could
get
my
questions
answered,
I
could
have
a
meaningful
conversation
and
that
was
just
being
sufficiently
staffed
up
for
that
meeting
was
fantastic.
So
thank
you.
B
R
B
F
Idea,
yeah
I
agree
with
Andrea
I
thought
it
was
very
well
done
and
an
important
thing
to
be
doing
and
I
like
the
idea
of
doing
it
annually
the
one
additional
part
that
that
I
think
would
have
helped,
and
it's
it's
not
that
I
needed
it.
I
could
see
where
these
routes
fit
with
previous,
for
instance,
TSA
plans,
but
for
people
who
don't
track
every
step
of
the
way.
F
Here's,
a
conceptual
diagram
about
what
anemone
was
going
to
be
like
and
here's
the
plan
that
we
have
for
the
anemone
trip.
Okay,
so
that
you
can
see
the
connection
between
what
led
to
that
rail
alignment.
Okay,
I,
there's
something
else
that
I've
been
mulling
about
that
I
really
don't
want
to
get
in
depth
talking
about
tonight,
but
for
for
virtually
for
almost
every
single
trail.
I
could
see
that
connection
from
what
what
had
the
public
had
agreed
to
on
a
conceptual
alignment
to
the
next
one.
F
F
A
Wanted
to
follow
up
the
point:
Karen
was
just
making
and
didn't
don't
mean
to
preemptive,
perhaps
a
broader
discussion
that
would
occur
in
the
future,
but
I
agree
that
there
needs
to
be
some
mechanism
by
which
certain
trails
are
at
least
brought
to
the
board's
attention
where
what's
being
proposed
on
the
ground
that
hasn't
been
done
yet
may
differ
sufficiently
from
the
conceptual
that
you
realize
you
know
boy.
We
really
ought
at
least
run
this
by
the
board.
A
A
If
you're
not
sure,
doesn't
cost
much
to
send
us
an
informational
update
by
the
way,
here's
the
conceptual
here's,
what
we're
actually
planning
to
do
and
let
people
indicate
whether
they
think
the
issue
warrants
a
more
focused
discussion
or
no,
that's
fine,
I
think
there's
a
fairly
low
threshold
to
just
giving
us
a
heads
up.
We've
taken
a
look
at
this
and
we
think
to
actually
get
this
done.
We're
gonna
have
to
go
pretty
far
south
and
then
back
to
the
north,
and
that
may
raise
some
questions
and
some
people's
mind
that
you
know.
A
T
A
R
C
C
The
fact
that,
like
in
the
time
that
I've
been
here,
one
of
the
things
I've
heard
is
so
consistently
budget
constraint
and
you
don't
have
to
be
constrained
by
budget
unless
the
public
does
it
wants
you
to
be
constrained
by
budget
and
I.
Think
that
if
you
said
we
want
to
pass
an
X
percent
tax
to
rebuild
and
maintain
the
trails,
you'd
have
better
luck
than
with
a
lot
of
other
things,
so,
especially
if
you're
marketing
it
as
this
is
what
we
can
do
this
here.
C
T
B
And
do
that
two
or
three
weeks
before
the
project
associated
with
that
is
gonna
happen.
You
know
as
a
way
to
drum
up
volunteers
and
also
increase
awareness.
Okay,
we're
kicking
off
construction,
and
this
is
what
its
gonna
look
like,
and
this
is
why
we're
doing
it,
but
take
it
to
the
people
a
little
more
yeah
at
the
trail
site.
F
U
Steve
for
the
record
Casey
French
planter
with
open
space,
my
own
parks,
so
on
March,
1st
CPW
wrote
a
letter
to
us
and
Boulder
County
parks
and
open
space
staff,
and
they
recommended
that
any
decisions
regarding
the
multi-use
trail
connection
be
put
on
hold
until
an
El
Dorado
Canyon
State,
Park,
visitor
use
management
plan
could
be
developed.
So
the
on
hold
request
is
consistent
with
the
board
motion
to
defer
a
final
decision
until
after
the
capacity
issues
and
such
as
traffic
congestion
and
amongst
other
things,
are
addressed.
U
The
difference
between
the
CPW
letter
and
request
and
the
previous
anticipated
next
stage
is
that
CPW
through
the
visitor
use
management
plan,
will
further
consider
and
explore
allowing
mountain
biking
along
the
North
route,
as
well
as
exploring
an
alternative
that
does
not
make
the
connection
and
these
alternatives
will
be
considered
along
with
all
potential
future
uses
of
the
State
Park.
So
the
CPW
will
kick
off
the
visitor
use
management
process
this
summer
and
there
will
be
involvement
and
collaboration
from
all
of
the
agencies
and
the
stakeholders.
U
There
will
be
representatives
from
Boulder
County,
Boulder,
County,
Transportation
I'm
involved
on
that.
So
in
consideration
also
of
CPW
use
announcement,
it's
now
envisioned
that
any
kind
of
future
design
or
refinement
of
the
North
route
would
not
concur
simultaneously
but
will
occur
subsequently
to
the
visitor
use
management
plan.
U
There
may
be
some
preliminary
work,
such
as
looking
at
you
know,
current
conditions
along
the
existing
El
Dorado
Canyon,
State
Park
or
El
Dorado
Canyon,
Trail,
I'm,
sorry
that
may
that
would
be
beneficial
to
us,
regardless
of
you
know
which
option
was
chosen
and
also
kind
of
scoping
out
the
next
phase.
So
it's
a
the
idea
is
that
this
foundational
work
would
allow
us
to
jump
right
into
the
trail,
design
or
refinements
an
analysis
if
an
or
throughout
you
know,
was
recommended
through
the
visitor
use
management
plan.
U
U
172
shuttle
we're
very
mindful
of
the
need
to
coordinate
all
these
various
efforts
and
we'll
focus
careful
attention
on
dovetailing
these
efforts
and
we'll
be
looking
at
kind
of
a
formal,
formal
agreement
outlining
roles,
responsibilities
and
scopes
and
whatnot
circling
back
around
its
Steve
mentioned
the
other
events
that
have
occurred
since
your
February
meeting
was
at
the
boulder
county
commissioners.
They
held
a
public
meeting
instead
of
a
public
hearing,
and
this
change
was
to
provide
consistency,
as
it
relates
to
the
timing,
is
when
governing
bodies
are
for
finding
a
final
recommendation.
U
So
you
know
any
final
recommendation
that
would
come
from
the
community
would
be
it.
You
know,
concurrent.
You
know
any
final
recommendation
that
may
come
from
from
the
city,
but
the
meeting
did
provide
an
opportunity
for
them
to
provide
their
thoughts
and
their
guidance
in
the
most
general
terms.
They
agreed,
but
the
next
steps
presented
to
them
regarding
developing
a
comprehensive
proposal.
U
They
provided
guidance
that
supported
further
and
thorough
consideration
of
the
North
route,
along
with
the
no
action
alternative
and
they
provided
guidance
that
Boulder
County
should
continue
collaboration,
especially
leading
the
transportation
elements,
considering
that's
in
their
wheelhouse.
So
there
is
a
link
to
the
video
of
the
commissioners
meeting
which
is
posted
on
the
project
website.
U
A
Know
it's.
You
know
we
have
limited
ability,
I
suspect.
You
know
on
how
CPW
decides
to
run
its
own
process,
but
is
an
important
difference
between
a
concurrent
process
and
a
sequential
process
in
at
least
one
respect,
which
is,
if
you
is
the
initial
visitor
use
plan
going
to
take
into
account
at
least
a
scenario
in
which
the
trail
exists.
A
If
what
ends
up
happening
is
the
plan
is
produced
and
it
doesn't
make
any
assumption
one
way
or
the
other,
and
then
you
say
well,
okay,
now,
let's
talk
about
how
in
the
world
envisioned
by
this
use
plan,
the
trail
would
work.
The
answer
might
be
well.
Actually
we
need
to
go
back
to
the
use
plan
and
factor
in
what
would
mountain-bike
use
look
like,
and
you
know
it
may
not
be
terribly
difficult
to
take
that
into
account
as
they
go
along.
A
But
if
there's
nothing
in
the
use
plan
about
at
least
the
scenario
that
we're
trying
to
address,
then
they
have
sort
of
lost
a
significant
opportunity
here,
and
it
was
part
of
why
our
motion
said
that
you
know
taking
these
issues
that
we
didn't
use
the
word
concurrently,
but
it
was
the
spirit
of
it
will
bring
additional
resources
into
the
discussion.
And
so
you
know
it's
a
way
of
sort
of
saying
the
plan
it
seems
to
me
has
to
at
least
in
one
alternative
say:
well,
what
would
we
do
if
there
was
significant
mountain
bike?
A
U
Can
I
can
make
sure
it
is
I
can
forward
that
for
sure?
Yes,
so
it's
my
understanding
tom,
that
they
will
visit
the
decision
and
evaluate
through
this
process
whether
CPW
supports
a
north
route
or
a
no
action
and
design
around
that
in
concurrent
with
all
the
visitor
use,
management
plans,
kind
of
the
future,
the
future
use
and
the
in
the
future,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
get
too
far
into
it,
because
we
do
need
to
go
back
and
Reese
copass
multi
agencies
and
us
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
it.
U
A
Had
a
more
of
a
feel
of
the
mountain
bike,
issues
are
just
being
put
on
hold
and
you
know
aren't
gonna
be
discussed
until
after
the
use
plan
has
done,
which
is
why
I
thought
the
sequential
approach
really
wasn't
going
to
do
any
work
on
that.
But
you're
saying
now
it's
a
little
more
integrated
than
the
way
I
had
interpreted
marks.
U
We
won't
do
any
further
work
on
the
north
until
we
hear
back.
You
know
whether
or
not
you
know
the
one
sentence
says
the
plan
would
consider
all
use
of
the
park,
including
the
proposed
elder
Walker
trail
and
possible
future
conditions
and
trends.
You
know
I
can
send
I
can
send
the
letter,
but
yeah.
There
is
a
little
bit
of
that
scoping
about.
What's
done,
you
know,
concurrently,
we
don't
want
to
get
ahead
of
you
know
a
decision
and
then
what
is
what
is?
What
is
really
subsequent?
A
E
Casey
as
Luke
comes
down,
let
me
just
a
couple
other
updates.
Just
if
you
look
to
the
Southwest
today,
you
probably
would
have
seen
a
column
of
smoke
which
yeah
meant
we
actually
had
a
very
successful
prescribed
burn.
We
had
18
acres
that
were
burned
through
the
effort
of
our
staff,
both
of
fire
and
a
lot
of
other
firefighter
co-operators,
and
in
fact
they
accomplished
enough
that
they
will
not
have
to
burn
tomorrow.
So
there
was
kind
of
a
potential
that
they
may
have
to
continue.
I
mean
they
felt.
E
The
quality
of
the
burn
was
really
quite
exceptional,
I
think
kind
of
our
nice
little
bit
of
warm
spring
day,
really
helped
us
out
with
the
wind
wind.
Yes
exactly
also,
though,
maybe
some
additional
burning
that
happens
early
next
week,
so
we'll
continue
to
share
information
out
to
the
community,
as
we
find
those
conditions
right
for
us
to
continue
to
make
progress
in
that
in
that
area,
and
this
is
a
continuation
of
the
burning
in
the
Han
area
that
we've
been
progressively
working
on
over
the
last
couple
of
years
and.
F
It
was
an
awesome,
joint
venture
I
when
I
came
out
of
my
place.
I
saw
the
four
mile
Sugarloaf
left
hand,
u.s.
Forest,
Service
and
Sheriff's
Office
fire
trucks
all
going
by
in
a
parade
so
and
I
and
I
know
there
were
volunteers
up
there
directing
pedestrians
away
from
the
area,
so
I
kudos
for
all
the
people
that
coordinated
all
that
effort.
It's.
E
Nice,
when
we
can
get
a
natural
process,
opening
us
out
a
little
bit
and
nice
natural
conditions
favoring
that
too,
so
that's
a
great
accomplishment
for
the
day.
In
addition,
just
speaking
of
great
accomplishments,
just
recognition
that
Dave,
Sutherland
and
wanita
etcheverry
were
recognized
by
the
bolding
Boulder
Housing
partners
for
a
partnership
award,
given
the
work
that
they've
done,
collaborating
with
Boulder
no
I'm
housing
and
working
with
some
special
education
programs,
and
so
just
again
just
another
great
kind
of
call
out
that
we
kind
of
exemplify
in
various
ways.
E
You
know
some
partnership
effort
efforts
working
with
pure
agencies,
but
also
with
the
community.
So
then,
lastly,
I'm
just
a
reminder
that
the
Front
Range
eco
or
research
symposium
for
the
April
19th
symposium-
that's
in
our
horizon,
but
if
you
haven't
RSVP'd
and
you
want
to
the
deadline-
is
before
Monday.
So
before
April,
1st
so
I
know,
we've
sent
that
information
out,
but
if
it
would
help
us,
we
can
always
get
that
back
out.
E
S
Great
thanks,
Steve
good
evening.
My
name
is
luke
mccain
property
agent
with
open
space
in
mount
parks
and
I'm
here
tonight
to
request
that
the
board
approve
a
motion
to
approve
and
recommend
that
City
Council
approve
the
conveyance
of
approximately
1/2
acre
of
the
seventy
acres,
st.
Walburga
abbey
open
space
and
the
vacation
of
access
easements
on
six
four
one:
seven
south
boulder
road,
together
with
the
acquisition
of
approximately
one
half
acre
of
land.
S
So
before
diving
into
the
details
of
the
land
trade
and
why
staff
is
recommending
it
tonight.
We
wanted
to
provide
some
background
on
the
history
of
these
properties
and
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
today.
So
in
1996,
the
city
acquired
the
seventy
acres,
st.
Walburga
Abbey,
open
space
and
the
approximately
20
acre
st.
Wahlberg
Alou
conservation
easement,
together
with
the
joint
used
access
easement,
which
is
depicted
in
orange
on
the
map
in
front
of
you.
S
Three
years
later,
in
1999,
the
city
acquired
what
staff
refers
to
as
the
city
access
easement
depicted
in
brown,
which
extended
the
city's
access
over
in
through
six
four
one.
Seven
south
boulder
road,
including
the
portion
of
the
property
encumbered
with
the
conservation
easement
to
the
same
Walburga
abbey
open
space
and
from
here,
can.
S
So
in
2015,
a
tenant
of
the
Zen
Center
property
encroached
on
the
st.
Wahlburgers
Abbey,
open
spaced
by
depositing
large
piles
of
mulch
north,
the
driveway
that
provides
access
to
both
the
open
space
and
the
Zen
Center
property.
Well
investigating
that
encroachment,
OS
NP
learned
that
the
legal
description
of
the
joint
use
access
easement
did
not
correspond
with
the
location
of
the
driveway
and
the
constructed
access
and
that
the
tenant
had
deposited
the
mulch
on
the
joint
use,
access,
easement
and
after
refusing
to
remove
the
mulch.
S
Furthermore,
the
county
is
requiring
the
monastery
to
reconstruct
the
driveway
in
the
access
in
order
to
meet
their
multimodal
transportation
standards
and
support
the
estimated
106
vehicle
trips
on
weekdays
and
290
vehicle
trips
on
Sundays
to
the
Zen
Center,
whereas
the
existing
driveway
and
constructed
access
over
the
San,
Wahlberg
Abbey,
open
space
ranges
from
12
to
18
feet
wide
is
partially
paved
and
it's
used
to
access.
Excuse
me
a
single
fan
residents
and
agricultural
operations.
S
However,
staff
is
concerned
that
both
the
increased
frequency
in
the
use
of
the
joint
use,
access
easements
and
the
improvements
required
to
support
that
use
will
further
impact
the
open
spaces
charter
purposes
and
Natural
Resources
and
continue
to
pose
a
stewardship
and
mountain
management
challenge
to
the
department
option.
Two
is
for
the
monastery
to
develop
and
improve
the
joint
use
access
easement
as
it
is
legally
described
doing
so.
However,
we
not
only
impact
habitat
for
the
you,
ladies
tresses
orchid.
S
S
S
S
B
S
S
A
S
This
is
the
area
also
where
the
tenant
of
the
previous
owner
deposit,
the
large
piles
of
mulch
and
city
staff
a
couple
years
ago,
had
to
go
out
there
and
restore
the
area
that
restoration
to
date
hasn't
been
successful.
So
I
should
clarify
when
I
say
you,
ladies
trusses
habitat
it's
historic
habitat,
they
were
there
in
the
past.
Our
hope
is
that
they
will
be
there
in
the
future.
S
S
The
land
the
city
is
trading
to
the
monastery
is
primarily
used
and
improved
for
access
and
the
open
space
charter
purposes.
This
land
supports
and
protects
our
nominal.
On
the
other
hand,
the
one
F
acre
the
city
is
receiving
is
an
active
agricultural
production.
It's
identified
in
the
Boulder
County
Comprehensive
Plan
a
significant
agricultural
land
and
includes
riparian
habitat,
buffering
new
tricarrier,
ditch.
Moreover,
city
ownership
of
the
Selanne
flow.
S
S
S
F
S
So
the
the
I
guess
the
Charter
purposes
or
the
the
resources
that
staff
is
trying
to
protect
and
adding
it
to
the
conservation.
Easement
are
primarily
its
includes
wet
meadow
habitat
and
also
some
historic
wetlands
that
were
also
damaged
by
kind
of
the
previous
land
management
regime
of
mulching
and,
and
so
those
mulch
piles
have
since
been
removed,
and
the
monastery
is
currently
restoring
those
areas.
Basically
by
removing
that
disturbance
allowing
the
wetland
vegetation
that
was
there
to
reestablish
given
the
the
soil
seed
bank.
That's
that's
remained.
S
S
S
F
A
C
I
A
The
the
content
of
the
survey,
the
next
process
committee
meeting
is
April,
2nd
at
11:30,
not
12
at
the
OSM
P
hub,
you
know
Karen
and
I.
Kurt
cannot
make
it
and
Karen
and
I
will
be
representing
us
at
that.
So
we're
you
know
obvious
he's
still
awaiting
the
survey
results
which
won't
be
in
at
the
time
of
the
April
12th
process
committee
meeting
and
so
will
instead
be
focusing
on,
as
we
discussed
the
next
step,
which
is
moving
into
the
financial
sustainability
and
prioritization
set
of
substantive
issues.
A
A
You
know
it's
a
process
discussion,
we're
not
discussing
the
substance
of
the
financial
sustainability
scenarios
or
how
to
prioritize
things.
That's
all
going
to
be.
You
know
part
of
our
April
17th
study
session.
Where
we'll
be
going
over
that
and
great
detail.
This
is
really
just
part
of
process
level
sort
of
define.
You
know
what
the
path
looks
like,
but
not
the
the
substance
of
it.
A
D
E
A
And
I'll
decide:
I
recommend
it
to
Dave
that
he
go
on
the
17th
when
he's
actually
will
have
been
sworn
in
as
a
member
of
the
board
on
the
second
he'd,
be
a
member
of
the
public,
not
just
any
member
of
the
public
but
technically
won't
even
sworn
in
yet
and
I
think
he
may
I
don't
know
if
he
followed
that
advice.
But
that
was
my
suggestion
to
him.
Okay
and.
E
A
A
All
right,
so,
unless
there's
something
else
on
that
for
upcoming
public
meetings
that
we
my
suspicion
is,
we
ought
to
just
notice
both
of
the
prairie
dog
tours.
Council
will
want
that
anyhow,
and
it
also
gives
people
the
flexibility
at
the
last
minute
if
they
decide
to
switch
to
the
other
one
they
can
do
so
so
we're
good
on
designating
those
the
April
19th
Front
Range,
open
space
research
symposium.
We.
A
E
I
think
the
there's
an
irrigation,
ditch
open
house
that
if
there
were
more
than
two
board
members
that
were
interested
in
participating
on
that
that'd
be
April
15.
That
would
just
help
us
know
in
advance,
because
it'd
be
time
for
him
to
notice
it
on
the
10th
where
they
have
you
call
it
out
on
the
10th
I
think
that's
the
and
I
guess
the
other
one
is
the
what's
up
bold.
E
So
there's
the
general
city
event
that
has
kind
of
a
broad
array
of
different
departments.
Sharing
events
that
are
happening.
Projects
are
working
on
and
kind
of,
a
collective
opportunity
for
community
members
to
weigh
in
wind
or
at
least
understand
different
projects,
and
so
that
was
also
something.
If
there's
more
than
two
board
members
would
like
to
attend
that
we
would
need
to
have
notice,
make
sure
that
gets
noticed.
So.
B
A
A
A
So
that
takes
care
of
upcoming
public
meetings.
I
wanted
to
just
mention
that
there
was
the
tribal
consultation.
Last
week,
Dan
and
Phil
Yates
were
there
from
the
from
the
Department
for
the
entire
gamut.
The
city
was
very
well
represented
from
the
mayor
and
the
City
Attorney's
office
and
great
many
other
people.
I
was.
A
Drivers,
I'm,
sorry
and
I
was
there
for
much
of
it.
Karen
was
there
for
a
good
portion
of
it.
Nearly
all
of
it
was
behind
closed
doors
and
not
you
know
we're
not
to
speak
publicly
of
what
was
discussed.
There
was
a
you
know,
a
formal
sort
press
release
announcing
that
a
the
formation
of
a
working
group
ultimately
leading
to
a
meeting
that
would
be
a
year
from
owl
to
continue.
The
consultation,
I've
just
say,
had
a
at
a
very
general
level,
not
revealing
what
was
sort
of
said
behind
closed
doors.
A
It
was
you
know,
I
thought
it
was
a
fascinating
meeting.
I
thought
I,
you
know,
I
personally
thought
they
learned
a
great
deal.
I
think
the
city,
and
certainly
the
department
needs
to
be
careful
about
resources
here.
That
I
think
the
opening
one
having
two
days
and
having
that
level
of
senior
representation
probably
made
sense
and
I
think
we
do
need
to
be
attentive
to
the
amount
of
time
this
takes
and
I
think
you
would
naturally
do
that
anyhow.
I
think
Dan
well
just
be.
A
F
I
think
that's
a
good
point
and
I
have
heard
some
discussions
since
then
among
people
outside
of
the
meeting
talking
about
the
cost
of
the
meeting
itself
and
whether
it
would
be
wise
to
do
it
every
other
year
instead
of
every
year
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
know
Steve
where
the
money
came
from
to
fund
that
meeting.
Was
it
OS,
MP
budget
or
did
it
come
from
another
part
of
city
budget?
Do
you
know
I.
A
E
A
A
A
Was
just
going
to
I
wanted
to
publicly
raise
the
question?
This
is
initially
just
out
of
sort
of
a
process
level
of
you
know
what,
if
any
understanding
you
have
of
the
city's
plans
for
at
a
process
level,
sort
of
reviewing
that,
and
you
know
what
resources
you
would
include
in
the
discussion
of
whether
to
rename
wondaland
lake
as
a
wildlife
sanctuary.
A
F
E
E
Is
a
overall
city
policy
for
commended
and
commemorative
I'll
say
that
right,
commander
written
a
naming,
I
can't
get
that
out,
goes
through
the
city
manager
and
there's
a
process
which
is
what
is
being
kind
of
the
process
for
settlers
Park
and
also
currently,
the
process
for
Wunderland
lake.
Although
Jane
has
yet
and
she'll
provide
some
guidance
to
us,
which,
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
report
back
in
April
about
whether
we'll
continue
to
use
that
process
or
no.
E
That
may
be
in
conversation
since
we're
talking
with
the
site
plan
and
Wunderland
lake,
if
that's
the
right
process
or
if
there's
maybe
a
more
suitable
process,
specifically
for
wonder
than
the
lake
but
for
settlers
park,
we've
been
using
that
process
and
that
kind
of
got
involved.
There
is
now
part
of
the
tribal
consultation
from
that.
The
tribes
now
are
considering
the
and
we'll
be
discussing
their
thoughts
around
that
perspective,
name
change,
and
that
will
be
one
of
the
returned
items
for
the
consultation
that
will
happen
next,
marching.
E
T
F
E
This
is
mainly
at
this
point,
just
an
informational
update
for
you
to
know
that
that's
been
a
process.
It
has
gone
through
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Advisory
Board
only
because
they
had
not
previously
had
designated
sites
that,
even
though
landings
were
occurring
in
the
north
older
Park
that
the
community
park
there
that
they've
never
really
formally
designated
this
site.
E
So
they
wanted
to
make
sure
they
went
through
the
Parks
and
Rec
Advisory
Board
to
designate
that,
since
we
have,
through
our
plans,
actually
designated
launching
sites
that
we've
already
kind
of
provided
some,
you
know
approval
if
you
will
of
kind
of
that
aspect
of
the
activity
that
takes
off
from
the
Wunderland
lake,
open
space
area,
so
I
think
it's
mainly
just
an
informational
items
to
make
sure
you
were
informed.
If
you
had
questions
about
it,
we're
happy
to
try
to
answer
those
questions,
but
I
don't
receive
that.
I'll
come
back
to
you.
So.
A
E
F
E
I
think
that's
one
of
those
kind
of
why
it's
key
for
us
to
work
with,
particularly
how
they
manage
their
equipment
in
the
area
and
that's
been
kind
of
a
long-standing
issue,
and
why
was
so
important
for
us
to
do
education
for
them
to
be
we're
aware
of
some
of
the
risk
and
the
issues
and
I
guess
I
would
also
say
just
in
the
conversations
I
think
they
are
very
interested
in
trying
to
be
good.
Stewards
of
these
sites,
and
part
of
that
is
recognizing.
E
Some
of
the
potential
risks
risks
risks
that
come
in
with
bringing
in
equipment
and
just
using
these
sites
and
how
they
can
use
their
resources.
They've
got
very
kind
of
a
tight-knit
group
in
good
communication
lines
and
are
probably
they're
much
better
at
getting
information
out
to
the
pilots
than
we
would
ever
be
and
using
those
channels
can
make
us
that
much
more
effective.
T
A
C
The
first
one
is
I
I
wish
you
would
still
here
I
whatever
it's
been
like
the
fourth
time
we
saw
and
seen
Andre
house
knee
here
and
he's
an
incredibly
eloquent
and
well
educated
and
well-versed
speaker
I,
think
that
the
steps
towards
transparency
have
been
amazing,
but
I
think
that
he's
here
speaking
says
something
about
transparencies
half
of
it.
Fairness
is
the
other
half
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
right
balance
is
in
terms
of
how
our
agricultural
lands
are
used
for
production.
C
I
think
is
the
next
big
part,
and
you
know
I
have
not
anywhere
near
the
depth
that
you
guys
have
of
knowledge
or
him,
but
my
knee-jerk
reaction
is
that
he's
come
in
several
times
and
said
very
educated
things
that
make
me
think
he
really
knows
what
he's
doing
and
that
he's
struggling
so
hard
to
get
ahead
is
really
speaking
to
the
fact
that
maybe
the
priorities
should
be
looked
at
better
and
transparency.
This
is
this.
C
Is
the
value
the
square
you
gots
one
thing
the
assessment
of
what
our
community
wants
and
how
we
score,
because,
based
on
that
is
another
and
I
think
that
should
be
part
of
a
discussion
that
comes
back
to
this
board.
That
I
won't
be
on
for
you
guys
to
help
and
have
a
public
process
around
that,
because
I
think
that's
just
literally
it's
putting
the
ten
dollars
in
each
of
the
different
buckets
in
real
time,
because
if
you
value
something
higher
and
that
gets
a
higher
score,
that
means
that
kind
of
AG
is
gonna
happen.
C
So
that's
the
first
thing
I'd
say,
and
the
second
thing
deals
with
prairie
dogs
I.
Think
that,
like
you've
heard
me,
talk
before
that,
I
think
we're
heading
towards
this
doom
and
gloom
where
our
prairie
dogs
are
gonna,
be
endangered.
I
think
that's
gonna
happen,
but
I
think
there's.
Another
question:
that's
really
valuable
here
is
that
we're
essentially
living
in
a
world
of
a
novel
ecosystem?
C
The
prairie
dogs,
natural
habitat,
as
it
was,
is
gone,
we've
boxed
them
into
small
places,
and
that
means
they
can't
have
their
normal
behavior
we've
removed
their
chief
predator,
the
black-footed
ferret,
so
they
have
a
very
different
life
cycle
and
life
system
than
they
used
to
we're.
Gonna
need
to
find
a
way
to
have
a
sustainable
population
of
prairie
dogs
that
is
viable
into
the
future,
because
there
will
be
listed
species
at
some
point,
but
we
can't
have
it
be
constantly
about
conflict.
C
So
I
challenge
you
guys
to
come
up
with
defining
what
Boulder
County's
novel
ecosystem
for
prairie
dogs
should
be
not
what
it
was
not
what
it
is,
but
how?
What
would
a
thriving
prairie
dog
ecosystem
with
human
beings
all
around
them,
look
like
and
try
it
and
plan
for
that
management
so
that
in
50
years,
when
this
is
one
of
the
last
populations
around
we're
not
dealing
with
this
conflict
all
the
time
we
have
a
plan,
and
that's
my
last
thing.
Thanks.