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Ad Hoc Budget Advisory Committee 5/26/2022
A
A
Amen,
terrible
tragedy,
of
course,
and
as
I
see
those
pictures
coming
across
of
the
kids
and
their
teachers,
it's
it's
just
makes
you
want
to
cry
all
right.
Sorry
about
that
sad
note,
but
it
is
very
sad.
Well,
we
have
a
chock-full
bit
of
information
about
our
budget
process
and
some
budget
matters
coming
to
city
council
soon,
so
amy,
I'm
gonna
just
call
on
you
to
take
us
away
and
have
this
presentation
and-
and
I
think
it's
fine
given
how
long
it
is.
A
If
somebody
if
council
members,
have
a
question
along
the
way
that
we'll
we'll
pause
not
to
have
a
long,
drawn-out
discussion,
because
she's
got
a
lot
to
go
through,
but
I'm
just
you
know,
there's
there's
so
much
you
might
forget
by
the
end
of
it
all.
If
you
had
a
question
along
the
way,
so
so,
let's,
let's
try
to
do
it
that
way.
So
amy
set
us
off.
B
Hey
good
afternoon,
everyone,
I
think
I
sent
you
the
agenda.
I
don't
know
that
we
really
need
to
go
over
it
in
detail
here,
but
we'll
so
we'll
just
jump
in
if
you're
ready,
which
is
our
2023
budget,
just
real
quick,
I
just
put.
Are
we
ready
because
I'm
not
quite
sure
I
am
for
the
2023
budget,
but
we
will
get
there.
Our
important
calendar
dates
july
8th,
is
when
all
the
departmental
budget
submissions
are
due.
B
Council
will
have
to
receive
the
draft
of
the
budget
no
later
than
20
november
22nd.
First
reading
of
the
budget,
ordinances
will
be
on
december.
6Th
and
2nd
and
3rd
will
be
on
december
20th.
So
it's
a
weird
year
again,
where
we're
actually
doing
second
and
third
reading
christmas
week.
So
just
keep
those
important
dates
in
mind
as
we
move
towards
putting
this
all
together:
monthly
reports
for
april
expenditures
for
general
fund
and
enterprise
funds
right
now
we're
under
budget
in
most
departments
as
of
april
30th.
B
It
is
the
only
budget,
that's
above
target
as
of
april
30th,
but
that's
mostly
due
to
timing
of
issues
or
expenditures.
I'm
sorry,
software
renewals
that
we're
doing
and
things
like
that
and
and
purchasing
computers
that
type
of
thing
we
kind
of
front
loads
up
front
load
those
things.
So
that's
really
it's
just
timing.
We're
not
worried
about
it
being
a
trend
or
anything
most
of.
B
Personnel
savings.
You
know,
we've
had
a
lot
of
talk
about
that
lately,
operationally
most
departments
are
at
target,
if
not
a
little
bit
above
there's
a
few
that
are
slightly
above
and
that's
hr
parks,
public
service
and
recreation
hr.
It's
mostly
due
to
additional
recruiting
expenses.
They've
they've
had
in
an
effort
to
fill
our
positions.
B
Parks
is
due
to
street
lights,
because
there
was
a
a
change
in
the
in
the
fee
that
we
didn't
incorporate
into
the
budget
because
we
found
out
about
it
after
the
budget
was
done.
So
that's
a
lot
of
it
and
then
we've
had
some
some
larger
repairs
at
the
ballpark
that
we
weren't,
anticipating
public
service.
B
C
B
And
it's
not
on
public
service
at
all,
but
we'll
be
watching
that
every
month
and
recreation
is
over
due
to
tennis
instruction
they've
actually
had
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
tennis
instruction,
so
their
revenues
actually
cover
it.
So
there's
more
expenditures
because
they're
having
more
tennis
lessons,
but
the
revenue
covers
the
the
overage
so
they're
good
there,
that's
kind
of
what
it
looks
like
I've
sent
these
to
you
also
the
other
night.
So
if
anybody
has
it
does
anybody
have
any
questions
on
any
of
that.
B
B
State
of
south
carolina
is
mostly
due
to
loss
census,
numbers
impact,
the
distribution
of
funds
to
municipalities.
So
right
now
it's
hard
for
us
to
tell
if
it's
due
to
economic
growth
or
if
it's
due
to
population
growth
and
permits
and
fees
are
under
target,
mostly
due
to
building
inspections.
I
guess
they
are
a
little
bit
slower
than
we
anticipated
in
this
first
four
months,
and
fines
and
forfeitures
are
under
target
due
to
police
police
fines.
Sorry-
and
that
is
what
we're
looking
like
so
state
of
south
carolina.
That's
mostly
local
option
sales
tax.
B
B
B
A
B
A
B
Know
if
you
remember
last
year,
when
we
talked
about
this,
you
know
a
lot
of
our
departments
were
way
under
budget
and
expenditures.
Were
we're
normalizing
a
little
bit
better
this
year
than
we
were
last
year?
It
just
seemed
kind
of.
If
I
don't
remember,
we
had
a
discussion
about
that
that
we
weren't
sure
if
it
was
staffing
issues
that
maybe
things
weren't
getting
done
or
what
was
going
on
so
this
year
it
looks
better
than
it
did
last
year
at
this
time
in
terms
of
us
actually
getting
things
done
or
expenditure
wise
anyway,.
D
E
B
B
E
B
No,
they
changed
so
we've
changed
that
whole
agreement.
That's
what
it
used
to
be
years
ago.
I
think
in
16
or
17.
We
I
think
it
was
2016.
We
changed
that,
so
it's
like
a
lump
sum
number
that
they
give
us
now,
it's
not
based
based
on
concessions
or
turnstile
attendance,
or
anything
like
that,
like
it
used
to
be
okay,
okay,.
A
E
B
B
B
B
If
we,
if
we
end
up
staying
at
4.50,
if
we,
if
it
increases
to
4.58
cents
per
gallon,
which
right
now
in
may,
it's
444,
so
we're
kind
of
anticipating
a
little
bit
more
of
an
increase,
we're
going
to
be
about
532,
000
over
budget
and
so
we're
just
monitoring
and
watching.
And
obviously
it
could
be
even
more
than
that
if
the
gas
prices
increase.
So
I
just
want
to
make
you
all
aware
of
where
we
are
with
that.
B
So
one
thing
that
we
said:
we
need
to
start
asking
the
departments
to
implement
some
fuel
consumption
savings.
We
kind
of
look
back
to
2008
when
we
had
a
similar
situation,
and
there
are
some
things
that
we
did
in
terms
of
looking
at
our
routes
and
making
them
more
efficient,
idle
time
restrictions.
B
We
had
the
police
department,
the
chief
at
the
time,
had
asked
them
to
park
their
cars
for
10
to
15
minutes
and
just
get
out,
walk
and
and
better
interact
with
citizens.
That
was
one
way
to
do
that,
and
then
you
know,
we
could
also
make
sure
that
our
the
take
home
vehicles
right
now
that
we
have
out
there
are
utilized
by
only
those
that
really
need
take-home
vehicles.
So
there
are
those
are
some
options
that
we
have.
E
F
B
I
don't
know
specifically
for
bullets,
I
don't
know,
I'd
have
to
double
check
on
that
and
some
either
deputy
chief
walker
or
chief
probably
could
answer
that
we
they
kind
of
order
them
so
that
we
have
a
lot
in
stock.
I
don't
know
if
we've
done
an
order
lately,
so
I
don't
know
if
either
one
of
you
could
talk
to
that.
B
B
We're
noticing
is
some
increases
from
some
of
our
contractors
contracts
for
a
lot
of
supplies.
It's
it's.
It's
fuel
costs
everything
we've
had.
We
had
three
requests
in
2021
and
there's.
I
have
a
slide
that
will
show,
but
the
approximate
potential
impact
of
the
budget
could
be
around
136
000.
If
we
were
to
honor
their
requests,
we
don't
have
to
because
it's
not
part
of
the
contract,
but
these
are
the
requests
that
we've
received
so
new
empire
and
safety
equipment.
C
B
B
B
E
B
D
B
Don't
have
to
do
that
they're,
just
asking
they're
asking
for
it,
and
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
to
your
attention
that
we're
we're
starting
to
receive
a
lot
more
of
these
because
they're.
Obviously
their
prices
are
increasing
too
so
they're,
not
probably
they're,
not
making
the
profit,
obviously
that
they
need
to
and
and
just
want
to
cover
their
own
costs.
So
they're
asking
us
to
honor
their
request,
but
we
don't
have
to.
E
E
B
D
E
F
F
Truck
had
to
be
towed,
I
got
to
tell
you
man,
that's
a
those
at
least
that
took
to
a
company.
Was
they
got
a
bunch
of
fees
they
charged?
Let
me
put
it
like
that.
Okay,
I
felt
sorry
for
the
for
the
tourists
who
get
caught
up
in
that,
but
anyway,
I
just
thought
that
would
be
something
they
passed
through
too
they're,
probably
doing
it
both
ways,
probably
to
the
person
being
told
and
trying
to
hit
the
city
anyway.
E
B
C
You
know
these
are
realities
out
there
right
that
fuel
costs
have
gone
up.
I
mean
these.
These
are
not
like
fake
issues,
but
but
the
way
that
these
issues
get
hashed
out
between
the
parties
is,
it's
got
to
be
handled
carefully
and
methodically
like
so,
for
example,
what
do
these?
What
do
our
contracts
say
with
each
of
these
different
vendors?
C
I
mean:
how
is
this
anticipated,
if
at
all
and
asking
for
you
know
information
from
these
vendors
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
councilman,
waring
and
councilman
shead
expressed
about
sort
of
using
letting
no
crisis
go?
You
know
un
capitalized
on
you
know
we
just
we
just
need
to
vet
this
stuff
carefully,
and
you
know
which
I'm
sure
we
are
I'm
just
saying
that
this
is.
This
is
something
I'm
seeing
all
over
the
place
these
days,
and
I've
also
seen.
C
F
Let
me
see
one
other
thing
amy.
I
agree
with
everything
councilman
bell
just
said,
especially
if
it's
in
the
contract,
thursday,
I
went
to
a
place
used
to
be
jiffyloo.
Actually
it's
in
the
district
I
represent
down
by
best
buy
and
they
had
been
purchased
by.
I
think
it
says
mobile
one.
I
went
to
get
an
oil
change
so
when
I
pulled
up
two
car
bays,
nobody
in
the
car
b,
two
guys
up
front.
F
So
I
was
going
in
what
was
the
office
to
I'm
gonna
get
a
price
on
what
it
cost
to
change
oil,
and
so
the
guy
asked
me.
What
do
you
need?
I
said
I
need
an
oil
change.
He
says
pull
it
on
up.
I
said
well,
first,
I'd
like
to
know
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
guy
tells
me
that
it's
going
to
cost.
Oh
a
truck
like
that.
There's
a
six
cylinder
truck
six
cylinder.
F
C
That
was
so
well
said,
I'm
just
going
to
say
one
last
thing
and
then
I'm
going
to
go
on
mute
and
maybe
even
turn
off
my
video.
So
you
don't
have
to
look
at
me.
I
think
that
these
concerns
that
councilman
waring
expressed
in
the
context
of
you
know
an
oil
company
oil
change
company
is
even
greater
for
us
because
I
think
a
lot
of
and
I'm
not
throwing
casting
aspersions
at
any
of
these
particular
vendors.
E
No,
but
because
we
are
dealing
with
public
funds
and
when
we
get
a
surcharge
on
something
like
this,
that's
something
we
have
to
be
aware
of
it's
just.
It
is
public
money
and
we
shouldn't
just.
I
mean
it's
not
going
to
break
our
budget,
but
it
does
add
up
after
a
while
and
we've
got
to
be
counting
penny.
Sometimes
this
is
part
of
the
issue.
We've
got
to
deal
with.
B
Okay,
the
mayor's
computer
froze
so
he's
trying
to
come
in
by
phones.
If
we
want
to
just
hold
on
for
one
second
but
councilman
rappel,
I
will.
I
will
tell
you
that
you
know
the
contract
says
they
have
to
ask
us.
Basically
they
can
come
to
us
and
ask
for
the
increase
and
we
don't
have
to
honor
it,
but
they
could
also
ask
to
get
out
of
the
contract
too.
So
you
know
you
have
both
sides
there.
B
I'm
not
sure,
okay,
so
then
the
next
is
barbara
funding.
Sorry,
just
let
me
rick
was
texting
me
right
now,
total
upper
funds
that
we
we
have
not
received
the
second
chance.
Yet
we
won't
get
that
until
mid-june,
but
the
total
amount
that
we
are
slated
to
receive
is
21
the
21
million
dollar
number.
All
of
the
items
that
I
noted
in
blue
were
things
that
we
had
already
allocated
back
in
2021
and
then
the
two
at
the
bottom,
the
great
and
green.
B
That's
where
the
2022
budget
items,
those
are
the
items,
including
included
in
the
2022
budget
and
then
the
grants
to
the
non-profit
agencies.
That's
also
included
in
the
2022
budget.
I
highlighted
and
pink
the
repeal
of
the
property
tax
increase,
because
we
are
closing
out
2021
now
we're
getting
somewhat
close
to
doing
that
and
it
looks
like
we
had
a
pretty
good
year
and
we
might
not
have
to
use
that
allocation.
B
B
B
Funding
for
the
water
plan,
we,
we
had
budgeted
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
with
arpa
funding
in
the
2022
budget,
but
the
scope
that
was
this
was
kind
of
a
a
person
change
too.
We
had.
We
had
mark
wilber,
leaving
right
around
the
time
that
the
budgets
were
getting
put
together
and
dale
come
in,
and
so
the
scope
is
a
little
bit
bigger
than
I
think
was
originally
anticipated
and
then
also
funding
for
a
rosemont
area
water
plant
as
well,
and
that
estimated
cost
is
200
000.
B
B
Our
planning
department
has
been
keeping
a
spreadsheet
for
a
year
on
requests
for
sidewalks
and
right
now,
they've
taken
that
spreadsheet,
they're
vetting
it
and
cleaning
it
up
some
of
the
areas.
The
city
is
not
responsible
for
be
more
d.o.t
and
all
that
so
they're
making
sure
that
all
the
all
the
requests
are
actually
within
our
city
responsibility
and
then
they're
placing
our
priority
to
those
projects.
B
B
If
anybody
has
any
questions,
video
servers,
the
license
plate,
readers
and
other
cameras
and
then
just
to
note
there'll
also
be
a
200
000
minimum
ongoing
costs
into
future
budget
years
for
the
for
those
items,
just
stop
and
ask
questions
if
you
need
to
and
then
the
water
plan,
so
I
think
we've
you've
all
heard
about
the
water
plan
and
how
it's
kind
of
tied
to
our
new
comprehensive
plan
as
well.
But
it's
it'll
current.
B
It's
going
to
include
current
and
future
flood
risk
for
all
types
of
flooding,
water,
detention,
infiltration,
storage,
land
use,
opportunities,
current
future
future
drainage
assessments
and
needs
hydraulic
basins
and
neighborhoods.
It's
going
to
focus
on
both
of
those
it
will
integrate
projects,
policy,
regulatory
changes
to
the
city's
investment
in
response
to
water
risks.
It
will
build
off
of
the
1984
drainage
plan,
the
2020
hazards
and
vulnerability
analysis.
B
The
dutch
dialogues
recommendations,
our
updated
stormwater
management
plans
and
the
2021
city
comprehensive
plan,
so
it'll
take
all
that
into
consideration
and
will
help
ensure
land
news,
flood
flood
risk
mitigation
and
investment
are
viewed
comprehensively
and
sustainably
across
bases,
floodplains,
neighborhoods
and
across
the
entire
city.
Footprint
original
budget
request
did
not
factor
in
the
full
scope
of
the
plan.
So
that's
that's.
Why.
G
A
B
A
A
F
I'm
for
the
water
plan,
but
one
of
the
things
that
kind
of
gets
me.
You
know
we
go
out
and
budget
and
budget
a
million
dollars
and
guess
what
the
bids
come
back
in
it.
One
million
one
point
one
one
point:
two:
nine
hundred
and
ninety
nine
someone
you
know
publicizing
what
we
budgeted
prior
to
getting
bids
on
something
like
that.
F
F
C
F
F
D
F
A
B
I
will
say
that
when
we
have
these
types
of
discussions
and
we're
specifically
talking
about
you-
know
certain
studies
and
plans
and
yes,
they
know
what
we've
budgeted.
But
if
they're,
just
looking
at
the
regular
budget,
they're
not
going
to
see
that
because
it's
in
a
professional
and
contractual
services
line
item-
that's
not
detailed
out
by
by
each
study
or
service
that
we're
we're
budgeting
for
so
before.
When
we're
having
these
types
of
discussions
that
we
that
we
consider
it
at
that
time,
how
we,
how
we
go
about
doing
that.
F
A
E
B
B
Most
of
the
comments
the
army
corps
had
received
in
september
of
2021
suggested
a
more
rigorous
attention
to
the
rosemont's
issues
and,
if
you
remember,
the
three
by
three
by
three
committee
came
to
council
last
november
with
recommendation
for
a
broader
review
of
rosemont's
issues,
which
council
very
much
supported.
So
this
plan
would
be
for
that.
It's
the
200
000
for
that
plan
that
was
discussed
back
in
november.
B
In
addition,
they're
currently
applying
for
grants
for
this,
so
there
is
a
chance
that
we
could
get
half
of
the
money
in
grants
which
would
be
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Obviously,
so
we
might
not
need
to
utilize,
but
we'd
like
to
at
least
still
put
the
full
amount
allocate
the
full
amount.
Just
in
case
those
grants
didn't
come
through.
F
B
B
H
B
A
G
If
you
know
who
are
selected
for
the
water
plan,
if
we
deem
them
to
be
qualified
and
then
they
could
make
us,
we
could
give
them
a
task
and
they
could.
We
could
negotiate
a
budget,
but
we
could
also
pre
procure
it
separately.
So
it
depends.
I
think
who
he
would
select
depends
on
the
quality
of
the
water
plant
team
and,
if
they're
capable
of
doing
this
other
resilience
work
likely
to
be.
G
D
D
C
B
Potential
additional
options
that
we
can
have
that
we
we
have
is,
if
you
remember,
for
both
the
hope
center
and
the
james
e
lewis
incubator
site.
We
had
taken
some
funding
away
from
those
items
to
do
some
other
things,
so
we're
just
suggesting
that
we
put
that
funding
back
so
that
the
hope
center
would
be
back
to
a
million
dollars.
The
james
e
lewis,
james
e
lewis,
incubator
site
was
million
dollars
initially,
but
we've
gotten
better
cost
estimates
and
from
that
and
it's
including
some
some
equipment
and
things
like
that.
F
You
know
out
of
this
21
and
I'm
just
throwing
this
out
for
discussion.
I
mean
we
had
two
million
dollars
tucked
away
mr
mayor,
for
at
least
at
that
time
we
think
about
improvements.
What
natatori,
because
of
covert
and
tight
budget
constraints,
obviously
we
had
to
bring
that
money
forward
to
you
know,
help
balance
the
city's
budget
yeah.
F
F
West,
actually,
certainly
some
of
the
monies
that
we
had
we've
got
some
things
over
there.
That
really
doesn't
cost
a
whole
lot
of
money.
In
terms
of
when
you
talk
about
finishing
the
greenway
and
you
compare
that
to
the
low
line
I
mean
it
causes
minuscule
compared
to
what
the
low
line
is
going
to
cost,
and
you
know
you
put
a
million
dollars
on
the
greenway
and
it
is
absolutely
fabulous
the
that
wpal
park.
F
You
know
we've
had
an
event
since
well
it's
about
seven
years
now
it
was
bought
near
on
the
mail
rally,
because
under
your
administration,
a
million
and
a
half
was
set
aside-
and
you
know
two
years
was
taken
from
all
of
us-
I'm
just
thinking.
There's
got
to
be
a
way
once
we
have
a
chance
to
sit
and
reflect
when
I
say
we
all
13
of
us
well
and
obviously
the
finance
department
to
see
where
can
we
tweak
yeah
to
bring
some
areas?
F
F
A
A
F
B
F
A
F
H
F
A
B
All
right,
another
thing
that
might
be
good
also
is
to
review
our
capital
improvement
plan,
because
you
know
there's
a
lot
that
we
already
have
put
away
for
the
greenway
accounts
when
we're
wearing.
So
I
mean
it's
probably
a
good
idea
for
us
to
kind
of
go
back
through
that
capital
improvement
plan
to
see
which
projects
are
on
there
and
funded
that'll.
B
B
B
B
A
So
so
we
finally
got
our.
We
would
do
some
payment
from
the
developer
there
of
all
those
departments,
yes
and
the
county,
as
you
say,
they
they
needed
to
fill
a
gap,
and
so
we
we
offered
to
put
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
match
that
that
needed
to
be
spent
in
the
neighborhood,
because
it
was
tied
to
that
development
and
the
county,
cdc
committee
or
whatever
committee
it
is
they.
They
authorize
that
now
it's
only
going
down
so
far.
H
A
A
H
D
H
D
Yeah,
while
we're
talking
sidewalks,
I
was
hoping
that
canterbury
woods
would
be
on
there
as
well.
They've
been
asking
for
sidewalks
for
a
long
time,
and
you
know
hope
that
they
would.
They
would
be
included
on
that
in
canterbury.
Woods
but-
and
I
know,
of
course,
we've
got
our.
We
got
our
parks
and
rec
master
plan.
D
D
D
A
A
E
E
This
is
an
ongoing
issue
for
a
lot
of
the
folks
who
utilize
these
tennis,
centers
and
and
if
we
can
install
these
lights
now
before
it
gets
dark
again
in
the
fall
you're
going
to
make
a
lot
of
people
happy
with
that.
So
if
I
could
push
that
a
little
bit,
it's
going
to
be
an
immediate
benefit.
It's
not
a
product
place,
but
this
is
ready
to
to
go
into
into
effect.
G
A
B
H
H
A
D
A
H
I'd
still
think
that
we
need
to
do
a
comparison
of
north
charleston
and
then
aquatic
center.
We
know
that
they're
paying
a
little
more,
I
think
20
cents
an
hour
more
or
something
than
we
are,
but
let's
see
whether
or
not
that
has
made
a
difference
in
terms
of
their
staffing
complement
in
comparison
to
ours.
I
don't
think
laurie
had
the
data
at
the
time
when
that
question
was
raised,
but
it
really
would
would
see
whether
not
that
20
20.
B
F
F
He
wrote
worked
for
a
grant
through,
I
think
five
schools
on
the
peninsula
and
it
was
awarded,
grant
money
and
part
of
that
enrichment
during
the
summer
was
swimming,
but
she
has
a
certified
person
to
teach
women
a
young
man
she's
supposed
to
be
forwarding
the
naming
and
contact
information.
So
I
thought
about
councilman
shealy
and
what
we
spoke
about
yesterday.
So
hopefully
we
will
have
somebody
that
we
can
hire
to
help
teach
swimming
lessons
during
the
summer.
F
H
F
And
it
came
from
somebody
at
least
amos
goodman
goodwin
was
looking
at
our
council
meeting
online
tuesday
and
she
knew
about
the
grant
that
miss
dilight
wrote
for,
and
she
just
put
two
and
two
together.
I
was
so
happy
to
hear
about
this
young
man
who's.
Looking
for
a
swim
teaching
position,
yeah,
that's
great
yeah,
so
so,
hopefully,
next
either
the
day
or
tomorrow
we
have
the
name
and
contact
okay,
at
least
for
one
person,
maybe
he'd
know
another.
B
Okay,
so
when
do
we
want
to
bring
this
accounts
like
full
council
for
approval,
do
we
want
to
discuss
this
again
once
the
audit
is
completely
allocate
all
the
funding
at
one
time
or
go
ahead
and
bring
the
allocations?
We
discussed
here
today,
if
everybody's
in
agreement
with
them
and
do
the
other
parts
of
it
later.
F
B
A
Well,
we
we
oh
the
kind
of
related
question.
Amy
was
you
know
from
our
last
meeting
about
the
drainage
projects
and
funding
and
that
kind
of
I
would
call
it
loose
allocation
towards
certain
things.
I
did
want
to
go
ahead
and
get
official
blessing
from
ways
and
means
on
those
particularly
for
central
park.
A
B
Okay,
so
we
were
trying
to
pull
other.
You
know
all
that
information
back
together
and
bring
it
back
to
ad
hoc
again,
but
obviously
with
as
much
as
we
had
on
this
meeting.
I
didn't
add
that
to
this
meeting,
so
we
can,
I
didn't
know
if
you
wanted,
because
you
had
all
asked
us
to
bring
it
back
for
a
review.
C
A
Could
we
just
send
that
around
by
email
to
everybody
and
have
you
review
it
and
see
see
if
anybody's
got
an
issue,
and-
and
this
is
on
this-
on
the
items
drainage
related
from
our
last
meeting
and
all
of
those
things
by
the
way
have
to
come
back
to
council
for
for
approval?
This
is
just
kind
of
you
know,
setting
so
much
for
doo-wop,
so
much
for
central
park,
and
it.
C
A
B
A
G
The
selection
committee
is
meeting
initial
meeting
is
next
week
on
tuesday.
I
have
skimmed
the
plans.
I
can
see
a
couple
really
strong
responses.
I
don't
know
if
the
selection
gradie
is
going
to
want
to
just
select
one
or
interview,
I
imagine
it
might
be
the
latter,
and
so
that
could
be
scheduled
generally.
G
B
G
So
we
have
an
odd
number
and
then
we
have
three
advisors
to
the
to
the
selection
committee,
and
that
is
myself,
someone
from
legal
and
cash
and
dralet
she's
representing
the
three
by
three
advisor
committee,
because
that
is
something
that
they
wanted
to
be
to
have
a
say
on,
and
I
will
dig
up
the
other
name
and
post
it
in
the
chat.
The
one
final
selection
committee
member.
B
D
A
Well,
well,
that's
first,
the
initial
list:
you
know
you,
you
got
six
million.
This
is
half
of
it.
I
I
would
respectfully
ask
that
we
go
ahead
and
send
this
on
to
ways
and
means.
In
june
I
mean,
unless
I
think
we
all
concur-
that
we'd
like
to
up
our
police
technology
by
a
million
and
that's
and
and
get
the
folks
going
on
sidewalks.
A
F
F
The
reason
I
say
that
you
may
remember
several
years
ago,
prior
to
council
member
appel
coming
on
where
they
have
had
some
people
used
to
use
the
bikeway.
I
mean
sorry,
the
greenway
as
a
getaway
from
breaking
in
people's
homes.
As
a
result,
we
started
conversations
with
council
with
at
that
time,
chief
mullen.
F
Cws
has
also
has
a
concern
about
some
of
the
some
of
the
various
act,
nefarious
activity
that
occasionally
happens
on
the
greenway.
So
while
we
doing
this,
I
would
hope
that
that
would
be.
You
know
included
as
well.
It's
not
going
to
be
a
major
cost,
but
while
we're
doing
it,
I
don't
know,
maybe
you
get
a
better
price
when
they
go
out
for
bid.
A
D
Yes,
mayor
and
council
members
it
it
does
include
the
greenway,
it
does
include
west
ashley.
Most
of
our
current
camera
footprint
is,
is,
is
peninsula,
centric
and
I'll.
Just
generally
say,
our
current
footprint
is,
is
our
current
system
is
aged?
It
is
low
coverage.
We
really
don't
have
a
much
of
a
footprint
compared
to
what
I
think
this
will
provide.
D
This
will
allow
us
to
be
more
regionally
connected
to
our
partners.
There's
a
lot
of
good
things
that
is
going
on,
just
as
an
example
in
north
charleston
with
cameras
and
our
people
are
coordinating
with
each
other
and
so
we'll
be
continuing
to
share
information
and
talk
to
each
other
regionally,
and
I,
needless
to
say,
this
is
something
that
will
help
us
with
our
efforts
with
violent
crime
and
property
crimes,
and
even
some
sensors
and
and
some
things
for
flooding,
and
this
is
something
that
I
think
it
really
is.
D
D
A
G
A
B
B
Okay,
now
we
have
a
couple
of
city
partner
requests
that
we've
received
roper
saint
francis
has
come
to
us.
It's
regarding
the
senior
centers.
Obviously,
both
the
centers
suffered
during
the
pandemic,
and
they
had
come
to
us
and
asked
for
us
to
help
fund
the
deficit
that
they
experienced
in
20
and
21..
B
Their
total
loss
was
300
around
almost
345
000.
As
you
can
see
here,
this
is
2020.
That's
both
low
country
senior
center
and
the
waring
senior
center
combined.
I
have
information
separately
for
each
location
if
you'd
like
me
to
send
it
to
it,
but
I
felt
it
was
easier
just
to
give
you
it
in
total,
so
137
for
2020
and
about
208
for
2021.
B
B
361
dollars.
Brokers
board
has
already
approved
this
plan.
We
could
use
arpa
funds
for
this,
so
if
you're
in
agreement
with
that,
we
would
add
that
to
the
allocation
that
we're
bringing
forth
in
the
next
meeting,
because
I
mean
this
is
kind
of
truly
the
spirit
of
what
our
funds
are
for
all
right.
So
I
feel
like
we
could
use
arbor
funds
to
cover
that
and
then
just
I
was
giving
you
a
history
of
what
our
contributions
to
this
senior
center
are.
B
We
have
two
separate
agreements
with
them
and
this
is
kind
of
how
they
were
laid
out,
so
we're
working
with
them
now
to
revise
both
both
the
agreements,
to
make
them
more
uniform
and
relevant
to
what
our
duties
and
responsibilities
are
as
partners,
and
it
could
result
in
a
revised
contribution
amount.
We're
really
digging
down
deep
into
what
the
city
provides
like
in
kind
and
what
what
rover
provides
in
kind.
B
That
nobody
really
tracks
very
well,
so
we
really
are
are
working
well
with
them
to
kind
of
really
grasp
exactly
what
each
of
us
are
doing
and
to
capture
that
a
little
bit
better
and
we're
also
planning
to
have
quarterly
meetings
to
just
so
we're
working
better
together
and-
and
we
know
that
we
can
know
any
issues
that
are
upcoming
before
it
gets
out
of
hand.
Basically,
so
it
was
a
good
meeting.
B
D
Yeah,
I'm
very
much
in
support
of
that.
I
will
tell
you
that
a
lot
of
my
constituents
use
the
wearing
senior
center
and
it
is,
I
mean
it.
It's
a
big
part
of
a
lot
of
the
retired
people
in
you
know
in
in
the
communities
that
I
represent
are
over
there
and
they
do
a
great
job
over
there
great
service,
so
so
I'd
be
all
for
it.
F
Francis
does
such
a
good
job
with
both
centers.
You
know
the
one
on
james
island
as
well
is
obviously
the
one
here
and
they
pretty
much
showed
these
costs
prior
to
coming
to
the
city
and
they
were
amy.
You
may
help
me,
but
maybe
they
would.
I
thought
they
were
the
first
ones
to
say:
let's,
let's
split
it
in
half,
they
didn't
come
back
and
say
well,
listen.
We
we
like
to
get
reimbursed
100.
F
B
F
B
B
E
B
A
F
B
F
B
Our
parks
department,
that's
out
there
doing
things
that
and
there's
little
things
that
they're
doing
too,
that
don't
hit
the
books,
and
so
that's
why
we're
we're
trying
to
get
a
better
handle
on
all
of
that
and
why
I'm
saying
that
contribution
amount
could
increase
with
that
just
because
of
because
of
all
of
that
as
well
we're
working
through
that.
We
hope
to
bring
something,
probably
around
august.
You
know
before
the
you
know
to
so
we
can
incorporate
whatever
might
it
might
be
into
the
budget
for
2023,
okay,
moving
on
river
dogs.
B
This
one's
going
to
be
a
fun
one,
so
the
major
league
baseball
has
imposed
certain
upgrades
to
all
the
facilities
for
player,
health
and
wellness,
and
these
are
some
of
the
things
that
they
are
requiring
more
square
footage
in
the
clubhouses.
It's
supposed
to
it's
supposed
to
provide
a
more
balanced
experience
for
the
players
and
coaches,
including
meeting
areas,
dining
area
showers,
authors
training.
B
B
Construction
effort,
in
order
for
these
upgrades
to
be
done-
and
these
are
requirements
too-
and
they're
supposed
to
complete
these
by
a
certain
time
other
than
they
get
they
get
penalties
and
and
fines,
and
all
of
that,
if
they
don't,
if
they
do
not
comply
and
and
get
this
done
within
a
certain
time
period
and
we're
already
behind
and
getting
that
done.
But
anyway,
it's
also
requiring
female
club
houses
or
female
coaches
and
umpires,
which
has
weight
room
minimum
standards.
Bad
engage,
minimums,
minimum
standards,
dugout
bench
length.
B
I
mean
it's
pretty
detailed
requirements
that
they
have
imposed
onto
baseball,
franchises
and
one
of
them's
field
lighting,
which
at
least
we've
already
addressed
that
one.
So
we're
good
there
right
now
they
have
a
very
preliminary
estimate
of
three
million
dollars
they
would
like
to
share
in
the
cost
of
the
upgrades.
B
They
are
saying
that
they
will
contribute
1.5
million
to
the
project
cost
over
a
10-year
period,
kind
of
like
what
we
did
with
them
with
the
clubhouse,
where
we
paid
100
000
for
10
years
for
our
million-dollar
contribution
to
it
so
they're
they're
kind
of
wanting
to
do
that
with
us.
Reverse
it's
tied
to
our
to
their
lease
options.
B
We
just
recently
renewed
they've
recently
renewed
their
lease
with
us
through
2027,
so
they
would
like
to
pay
200
000
annually
through
2027
for
a
total
of
one
million
dollars
and
then
the
remaining
to
be
paid
over
five
years
at
100
000
per
year.
Should
the
club
renew
its
last
five-year
option
and
if
they
do
not
do
that,
then
they
would
pay
us
the
500
000
in
one
lump
sum
make
sense.
B
So
the
city
would
contribute
the
remaining
1.5.
The
one
thing
the
river
dogs
have
said:
is
they
only
they're
only
offering
to
contribute
1.5?
So
if
there
are
any
cost
overruns
they
that
could
be
the
rep
they're
expecting
the
city
to
pick
that
up.
The
cost
estimate,
like
I
said,
is
very
preliminary
and
I
think
west
chapel
is
on
here
who
might
be
able
to
talk
to
this
better.
If
we
have
more
questions
on
it,
but
he
looked
at
it
and
he
thinks
that
it's
pretty
preliminary.
B
B
But
unless
it
can
speak
more,
if
you
all
have
some
questions
about
that,
our
agreement
with
them
is
section
3.2.
In
section
3.3,
it
said
the
club
may
reach
out
to
the
city
about
alterations
or
improvements,
but
cannot
proceed
without
city
consent
and
written
agreement
regarding
allocation
of
expenses,
and
then
3.3
talks
about
professional
baseball
standards
and
any
alterations
and
improvements
to
the
ballpark
that
are
required
by
professional
baseball
standards.
B
And
if
we
were
to
decline,
they
could
ask
for
variants
from
the
from
mlb
and
then
they
have
to
inform
us
in
writing
of
the
discrimination
and
if
mlb
were
to
wave
or
deny
the
waiver
and
we
refused
to
make
such
alterations
and
the
continued
use
of
the
club
without
the
operation
alterations
would
result
in
the
loss
of
the
professional
baseball
franchise
and
the
club
should
be,
can
actually
terminate
its
lease.
So
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
with
the
agreement
side
of
it.
B
So
it's
a
little
ambiguous
as
to
who
covers
the
expensive.
If
the
city
agrees
to
make
such
alterations,
because
you
know
we
are
required
to
maintain
the
ball
field.
As
you
know,
we
have
a
lot
of
expenses,
especially
coming
up
with
a
field
and
the
structural
assessment
that
we
had
a
couple
years
ago.
B
B
The
mayor's
recommendation
is
not
to
agree
to
cover
any
cost
overruns,
but
ask
if
they
also
split
any
cost
overalls
with
us
as
well.
So
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
we
need
to
go.
We
need
to
put
together
an
mou
with
the
right
with
the
with
the
river
dogs
that
will
go
to
full
council
for
approval,
and
I
don't
if
we,
if
we
go
back
to
them
and
say
you
know,
we
would
expect
them
to
split
the
cost
overruns
with
us
as
well.
B
C
A
But
they've
all
got
to
apply
to
these
new
specifications.
Go,
go
back.
One
slide.
One
thing
interests
me
amy.
We
didn't
really
talk
about
right
there
and
I
I
don't
at
all
envision
that
we
would
ask
for
a
waiver
of
everything,
but
it
I
wonder
if
we
could,
in
essence
between
our
budgeting
and
priorities,
asked
for
a
waiver
for
for
for
things
that
would
drive
the
budget
over
three
million
dollars
so
that
we
make
sure
we
don't
together
spend
any
more
than
that.
A
B
And
maybe
west
could
answer
that
better.
But
there
are
some
things
like
that.
They,
though
they're
going
to
just
basically
take
the
hit
on
that
they're,
not
going
to
try
to
meet
the
requirements
of
the
mlb,
because
they
know
that
they
can't,
or
they
still
feel
like
the
penalty-
that
they
would
get,
would
be
substantial
enough
for
them
to
to
worry
about
it.
So
they
they've
already
kind
of
called
that
back
a
little
bit
mayor
and
the
they
would.
A
Well,
first
of
all,
we
have
an
obligation
to
the
citadel,
so
we
would
have
to
maintain
the
stadium
or
it
unwinds.
The
real
estate
deal
that
put
the
stadium
there
in
the
first
place.
So
I
I
think
we
have
to
that.
That
comes
up
first,
so
we
we'd
have
a
baseball
stadium,
just
depending
on
who
would
play
in
it.
I
guess,
in
addition
to
the
citadel.
F
Many
acres
do
we
know
that
that
comprises
I'm
just
you
know
it
might
not
be
a
bad
idea.
I
mean
we
got
a
lot
of
things
to
do
but
begin
developing
a
plan
b
there
I
support
them.
I
support
them,
but
sometimes
I
feel
like
they
think
they
got
us
over
bowel
on
some
of
this
stuff
and
it
might
not
be
bad
to
begin
to
develop
a
plan
b.
A
D
A
And-
and
you
know
I
I
remember
from
saturday
night
live
famous-
I
forget
what
the
comedian's
name
was,
but
you
say
baseball
been
very,
very
good
to
me.
I
I
really
I
mean
I
know
joe
riley
was
the
consummate
baseball
fan
and
I
I
will
never
reach
that
level.
But
when
I
go
out
there
and
the
families
are
there,
I
mean
it's,
it's
just
a
great
community
thing.
F
Oh,
no,
listen,
listen
that
that
is
the
best
buy
for
family
in
this
town.
In
the
team
I
mean
get
a
ticket
going
to
the
now,
I'm
a
big
fan
of
it,
but
just
in
case
some
of
this
stuff
may
be
out
of
our
purview,
in
particular
major
league
baseball,
that
decides
to
reduce
the
number
of
farm
teams,
or
something
like
that
I
mean
like
I
said
it,
wouldn't
be
bad
to
have
a
plan
b.
For
example,
when
they
had
the
soccer
stadium
over
on
daniel
island,
the
land
became
more
valuable
than
the
stadium.
F
A
But
again
it
it's
tied
back
to
that
agreement
with
the
citadel.
It
was
their
property.
Apparently,
when
the
city
cut
the
deal
to
to
move
from
college
park
over
to
build
this
new
stadium,
so
it's
not
like
we
can
decide,
oh,
even
if
we
had
another
home
for
for
baseball
and
wanted
to
build
something
else
there.
E
D
E
That,
and
I
I
the
other
question
I
think
we
need
to
find
out
from
them
is
what
is
going
to
be
the
more
greater
maintenance
need
that
we're
directly
tied
to
with
this
property
at
some
point,
because
I
I
just
know
that
I've
got
a
feeling
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
deferred
maintenance
that
will
fall
under
our
obligation
at
some
point
with
this.
So
we
need
to
be.
I
agree
with
you.
We
need
to
be
planning
for
the
future,
but
the
future
may
be
not
if
they
leave
the
future
may
be.
D
If
I
could,
if
I
could
step
in
here,
this
is
west
chapel,
so
we've
already
completed,
we
had
an
assessment
done
a
few
years
ago
of
the
stadium
from
you
know,
looking
at
maintenance
for
the
future,
we've
already
completed
two
phases
of
that
which
was
the
fire
alarm
system
and
the
electrical
upgrades
there.
You
know
we
were
looking
into
doing
structural
repairs.
D
Next,
some
of
those
items
will
be
covered
or-
or
you
know,
part
of
this
upgrade
per
the
mlb,
because
some
of
the
areas
they're
proposing
to
build
these
new
spaces
will
be
underneath
the
stadium,
which
is
where
the
structural
repairs
would
need
to
be
made.
So
you
know
we
were
trying
to
account
for
some
of
those
items
as
much
as
possible
as
part
of
this
project
and
looking
forward.
So
the
the
main
ones
coming
up
were
structural
repairs.
D
D
Some
bad
feedback,
it's
hard
to
come
back
with
an
exact
number
to
date.
You
know
we
we
did
this
a
few
years
ago
prior
to
covid,
and
we
had
a
total
value
number
on
what
we
thought.
The
construction
costs
were
going
to
be
back
then,
but
we
have
not
re-evaluated
since
the
increase
of
costs
through
all
levels.
D
H
B
E
A
A
H
E
F
D
F
B
All
right,
so
we
will
go
back
in
and
you
know
continue
to
negotiate
with
them.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
all
were
aware
of
what
was
going
on
with
that,
because
we're
getting
kind
of
behind
the
gun
in
order
for
us
to
get
some
of
those
requirements
done
so
anyway.
That's
where
we
are
but
we'll
go,
we'll
go
back
to
them
and
continue
to
negotiate
all
right.
B
Okay,
now
other
issues
that
we're
having
the
insurance
reserve
fund,
so
we've
been
having
some
struggles
with
our
insurance
reserve
fund,
so
they
will
they
no
longer
ensure
sea
walls
retaining
walls.
Our
docks
appear
well,
it
says
structures
that
anchor
or
connect
a
dock
pier
to
land,
which
basically
means
it
won't
cover
our
docks
and
peers
either
and
it
impacts
approximately
25
cities
structures.
B
B
We
have
a
quote
from
an
appraiser
for
that
appraiser
to
go
out
and
inspect
all
of
the
structures
and
provide
us
with
replacement
costs
and
then
once
that
works
completed,
we'll
work
towards
obtaining
insurance
policies.
So
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
all
know
that,
so
that
will
be
an
additional
insurance
cost
to
us
because
we're
having
to
go
out
and
get
separate
policies
and
then.
A
B
F
E
F
E
F
D
B
So
the
other
issue
that
we're
having
is
our
historic
city
building
appraised
values
they
appraise
every
five
years.
They
did
their
most
recent
appraisal
in
2020
right
in
the
midst
of
the
pandemic
and
they
drastically
reduce
the
valuation
of
numerous
properties
of
ours
without
justification
or
notice.
B
We've
been
fighting
with
them
on
those
reductions
and
have
been
successful
in
getting
the
valuations
increased,
with
the
exception
of
these
five
properties
and,
of
course,
they're
our
most
important
properties.
I
shouldn't
say
that
all
of
our
properties
are
important,
but
historic,
the
city
hall
gary
oath
center,
my
building
here
116
meeting
straight
now,
that's
mine
with
the
building
I
sit
in
and
dock
street
theater
and
then
fire
station
two
and
three.
B
So
if
we're
not
successful
in
getting
the
property
evaluations
up
to
where
they
should
be,
we
might
need
to
obtain
appraisals
and
purchase
excess
liability
coverage
in
order
to
make
sure
that
we
have
proper
coverage
on
the
buildings.
So
that's
something
that
we're
looking
into
we're,
also
having
some
concern
on
our
most
recently.
B
B
We
have,
we
were
assigned
a
different
account
representative.
I
think
in
2019
and
it
hasn't
hasn't,
been
a
pleasant
experience.
It's
super
difficult
working
with
them
with
the
irf.
It's
an
all
or
nothing
situation.
You
either
have
to
use
them
for
everything
they
offer
or
nothing
at
all,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
stuck.
B
If
they
don't
offer
a
product,
then
we're
allowed
to
go
outside
to
a
private
market
market
like
we
had
to
do
with
our
like
a
liquor,
liability
policy
and
now
what
we're
having
to
do
with
our
docs,
and
so
we
did
engage
a
private
insurance
broker
who
presented
to
us
and
provided
a
quote,
and
we
could
save
some
money
on
casualty.
Insurance
have
our
property
insurance
would
cost
up
to
three
times
more
than
what
we're
currently
paying
with
the
irf.
B
So
staying
with
the
irf
probably
is
is
a
better
better
option
right
now,
because
they
can
just
lower
that
offer
lower
premium
space
because
they're
subsidized
by
state
funding,
but
we're
just
going
to
continue
to
analyze
and
determine
the
cost
benefit
of
this
and
see
where
we
are.
So.
I
just
wanted
you
all
to
know
where
we
stood
with
that.
B
B
H
D
B
A
I
I'm
just
out
of
curiosity.
I
I
would
like
like
to
see
him
that
I
mean
who
who
in
there
who
believes
that
building
particularly
buildings
in
good
condition,
which
we
I
mean,
don't
get
me
wrong.
We
have
a
little
deferred
maintenance
here
and
there,
but
we
generally
keep
our
buildings
in
good
condition
and
and
and
the
guards
brand
new
who
who
would
believe
that
the
property
value
building
value
is
going
down
in
the
last
few
years.
Here
in
charleston.
B
B
To
get
moving
we'll
have
to
advertise
and
get
applications
on
the
website
by
the
end
of
june,
because
the
grants
would
have
to
be
to
us
by
beginning
of
august
in
order
for
us
to
get
them
into
the
budget
cycle.
This
is
kind
of
the
history
of
the
grant
opportunities
that
we've
given
out
in
the
past.
The
full
dollar
amount
you'll
know
in
2020
at
decreased
drastically,
just
because
of
state
law
requirement
of
funds
given
to
nonprofit
organizations,
and
then,
of
course,
that's
the
full
budgeted
amount
that
we
gave
out.
B
A
We
help
a
lot
of
good
organizations
through
here,
including
I
mean
we
talked
at
length,
the
other
night
about
the
heirs
property
group.
You
know,
I
don't
know
what
other
we
might
have
another
opportunity
to
help.
Somebody
like
that
if
they
were
providing
direct
service,
I
guess,
but
still
I
don't
know
I
I
think
we
just
wait
till
later
in
the
budget
year
to
make
a
call
on
this.
One.
B
A
A
D
C
B
So
I
have
some
slides
on
that.
If
you
want
to
hold
on
this
for
a
second,
so
we
kind
of
move
into
that
that
talk,
then
we
can
come
back
to
it
if
you'd,
like
so
hr
committee,
met
on
may
12
and
received
the
following
information.
I
summarized
it
way
down,
but
although
we
did
do
a
significant
pay
adjustment
this
year
in
2022,
it
has
not
yielded
the
results
we
hoped
for.
We
we
figured
that
it
wouldn't
help
us
hire
new
people,
but
we're
hoping
that
it
would
at
least
help
us
keep
people.
It
hasn't.
B
B
B
And
then,
if
you
stop
me,
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
go
through,
but
this
is
our
annual
turnover
for
2021..
We
were
when
we
talked
last
year
towards
end
of
year.
We
were
going
through
the
budget,
we
were
we,
I
think
we
were
anticipating
at
22
to
23
percent
non-sworn
turnover
rate.
It
ended
up
being
25.58
percent,
so
it
was
higher
than
than
we
than
we
we
estimated,
and
then
this
is
total
turnover
throughout
through
april
of
each
year.
So
you
can
see
you
know.
2021.
B
B
And
so
this
is
the
compensation
survey
results
that
hr
have
presented.
If
you
look
at
this
this
column
here,
it's
just
base
pay
results.
We're
at
like
50
we're
have
like
mid
mid
of
all
the
survey
participants,
so
we're
at
51,
with
with
the
cost
of
living
factor
which
that
we
included
we
got
from
the
from
mit,
basically
that
living
wage
where
we're
way
down
towards
the
bottom.
B
So
69
of
the
survey
participants
pay
more
than
we
do
when
you
cut
when
you
factor
in
cost
of
living
and
you'll,
see
that
all
of
our
st
andrews
psd
is
higher
than
us
in
both
sides,
and
this
is
non-torn,
I'm
sorry.
This
is
just
non-sworn
for
sworn.
This
is
the
base,
pay
results
for
police
and
for
fire,
and
we
did
just
base
pay
average
and
then,
at
a
bachelor
degree
level
as
well.
Just
to
give
you
a
different
perspective,
basically
so
we're
doing.
B
B
B
D
C
B
B
B
B
B
So
then,
they
also
kind
of
looked
at
this
to
show
you
so
where
we
would
end
up
either
invade
and
just
base
pay
or
with
cost
of
living,
and
so
I'm
just
gonna,
I'm
just
gonna
stick
with
the
cost
of
living
factor
the
one
percent.
It
would
keep
us
up
with
the
with
hilton
head
city
of
durham
and
city
of
fayetteville.
If
we
did
the
top
10,
then
we
would
be
right
in
with
savannah
raquel
myrtle
beach
and
then,
if
it
was
25,
we'd
be
raleigh.
Wilmington.
B
So
that's
where
we
kind
of
would
be
right
here,
savannah
and
rockhill
for
base
pay
my
pleasant
it's
higher
than
us,
so
that's
nonsmore,
okay
and
then
well.
I
guess
I
didn't
include
the
sworn
I
guess.
Maybe
we
didn't
have
one
anyway,
that's
where
it
would
that's
where
it
would
put
us
and
but
that's
the
price
tag
depending
on
what
we
do.
B
A
A
B
B
A
B
A
B
C
B
C
C
A
B
C
We
need
to
have
all
the
options
on
the
table
because,
as
we
all
know,
and
as
we've
all
lamented,
we
don't
have
that
many
options
I
mean,
even
if
we
were
to
max
out
another
millage
increase,
we're
not
getting
anywhere
close
to
17
million
dollars
right
based
on
my
understanding
of
how
those
numbers
work.
So
I
mean
if
we
want
to
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
comments,
a
council
meeting
on
tuesday
about
trash
getting
picked
up,
and
you
know
lifeguards
being
paid
and
firefighters
that
come
to
our
meetings.
C
H
E
B
D
E
A
E
B
A
B
B
B
F
F
B
H
C
A
And
the
labor
market
really
changed
dramatically
in
a
year's
time.
I
mean
we
thought
we
were
doing
so
good
right
and
and
it
just
in
comparison
to
what
happened
with
the
market
through
through
no
fault
of
our
own.
We
really
put
a
good
faith
effort.
I
mean
it's
not
every
day
that
we
agree
to
raise
three
mills
right.
F
A
B
We've
cut
back
so
much
even
like
operationally
with
the
departments
too,
that
they
have
so
many
needs
in
terms
of
getting
work
done
too,
but
I
think
our
focus
has
got
to
be
on
this
pay
increase
because
we're
not
like,
like
we
don't,
have
people
we're
not
going
to
get
the
work
done
anyway.
So
I
think
that
has
to
be
our
main
priority
that
we
have
our
our
normal
increases
that
we
have
our
life.
B
Other
options
like
we
have
everything
in
terms
of
I
think
we
have.
We
haven't,
got
the
information
from
the
state.
Yet,
regarding
the
our
our
cost
of
our
our
millage
bank
information,
you
know
we
did
that
increase
last
year,
so
I'm
not
really
sure
what
we
would
be
able
to
do
with
a
tax
increase
anyway
and
then,
looking
at
local
option
sales
tax
like
we
have
and
just
trying
to
piece
it
all
together,.
F
This
is
just
tweaking,
but
you
know
we
had
to
make
the
adjustments
to
the
policing
on
king
street.
I
don't
know
how
many
more
you
know.
Officers
are
now
in
the
what
I
call
anywhere
the
entertainment
district.
I
know
in
some
years
past
when
we
needed
again.
This
goes
back
to
chief
mullen
days,
but
when
we
needed
to
add,
I
don't
know,
I
think
it
was
like
eight
officers
to
increase
presence
at
that
time.
They
came
out
of
tourism
dollars
as
opposed
to
the
general
fund.
F
B
E
Amy,
yes,
I
think
the
other
consideration
we've
got
to
take
care
of
this
pay
issue,
because
another
consideration
is:
is
this
every
time
we
lose
a
firefighter,
we
have
to
replace
them
and
the
the
cost
of
replacing
a
firefighter
and
bringing
in
a
new
class.
I
forgot
what
the
numbers
are,
but
they're
astronomical,
and
then
the
other
issue
is
when
we're
short
of
police
and
fire
and
we
pay
overtime
for
those
who
work
at
different
shifts.
E
The
other
issue
we
have
is
is
our
we're:
creating
a
vacuum
of
leadership
gap
as
we're
trying
to
promote
with
from
within
the
experience
and
years
of
service
men
and
women,
have
we
we're
losing
that
and
that's
a
huge
gap?
So
it's
it's
not
just
the
dollars
and
cents
that
we're
dealing
with.
It's
also,
this
institutional
knowledge
that
we
rely
on
heavily
for
the
advancement
of
the
leadership
roles
that
the
experiment
and
police
officers
have.
E
So
if
this
is
a
multi-faceted
issue
that
we
are
wrestling
with,
there's
no
question
that
we've
got
to
tackle
this
with
at
least
being
in
the
top
25
I
mean,
and
we've
got
to
find
the
money
somehow
to
do
that,
and
this
is
when
we
have
to
roll
up
our
sleeves
and
just
look
deeper
into
what
may
be
or
may
not
be
available,
and
all
options
are
on
the
table.
Obviously,
for
this.
E
A
You'll
note
councilmember
that
our
turnover
rate
isn't
nearly
as
high
with
the
sworn
officers
than
it
is
with
with
the
non-sworn
and,
interestingly,
our.
If
you
break
out
the
two,
our
our
wages
are
more
competitive
for
fire
and
police
than
they
are
for
non-sworn
right.
So
that's
a
lesser
incentive
for
a
firefighter
working
for
us
to
go
to
mount
pleasant
because
we're
we're
really
comparable.
If
not
better.
You
follow
me,
but
the
other
thing
that
kind
of
struck
me
in
the
head.
A
A
I
just
think
it's
interesting
that
that
might
have
been
a
factor
for
our
non-sworn
employees
to
be
so
mobile
right
now
or
leaving
us
in
such
numbers,
because
the
the
the
opportunity
to
earn
more
money
for
them,
if,
particularly
if
they're
talented,
is,
is
there's
a
bigger
differential
than
a
police
officer
or
a
firefighter
looking
to
go
from
us
to
another
city
department.
Does
that
make
sense.
E
It
does,
but
the
number
that
chief
courier
gave
up
was
that
place
about
100
firefighters.
You
know
that's
almost
25
of
the
our
foreign
officer
and
if
you
also
look
at
the
numbers
mayor
they're,
not
necessarily
going
to
all
other
local
agent
partners,
a
lot
of
these
men
come
from
outside
of
the
the
tri-county
area,
a
lot
of
them
out
of
the
state.
E
There's
a
lot
of
people
returning
back
home
where
they,
because
our
training
is
so
well.
So
it's
not
just
looking
at
what
mount
pleasant
is
paying
at
north
charleston
is
paying
it's
it's
it's
looking
at
it
on
more
of
a
regional
level
and
you're
right
I
mean
the
number
of
sports
of
sworn
are
better
than
the
non-sworn,
but
still
it
is
a.
It
is
a
is
a
serious
issue
that
courier
chief
korea
has
brought
to
our
attention
on
all
of
us.
E
A
H
B
G
B
So
when
we
like,
we
did
this
last
time
because
they
have
they
have
a
totally
both
both
police
and
fire
have
totally
different
plate
plants
than
the
rest
of
the
city
and
their
structure
completely
different.
So
we
have
to
push
like
we
did
last
year.
It
was
a
entire
push
through
the
whole
entire
pay
plan
of
non-sworn.
B
Because
of
compression
issues,
and
things
like
that,
then
we
have
to
take
into
consideration
through
each
pay
grade.
So
that's
why
it's
so
costly
to
do
it
with
police
and
fire.
They
have
different
steps
and
they're.
They
have
the
ability
to
to.
They
have
automatic
step
increases
built
into
their
plans,
which
will
give
them
a
five
percent
automatic
increase,
which
nobody
else
like
the
non-sworn
do
not
have
that
option.
B
H
B
Will
this
will
you
know
they
get
a
person?
You
would
probably
do
it
the
same
way
depending
on
what
we
do
with
with
their
pay
plans,
because
I
know,
especially
with
fire,
there's
a
push
to
change
their
pay
plan
so,
depending
on
how
those
are
restructured,
I'm
not
sure
how
that'll
look
and
I'm
not
sure
if
police
is,
if
they're,
also
wanting
to
do
anything
with
their
pay
plans.
B
We,
I
think
we
would
probably
recommend
some
changes
to
theirs,
but
over
the
next
couple
of
years,
maybe
to
kind
of
clean
these
up
a
little
bit.
I
guess,
but
what
we
did
is
just
provided
like
with
all
the
department
heads
we
got
one
a
percentage
increase
and
a
lower
percentage
increase
than
everybody
else
in
the
non-sworn
pay
plan
and
gave
that
same
percentage
to
police
and
fire
because
they
have
the
ability
to
they
have
like.
B
B
To
make
sure
that
that's
going
to
flow
into
the
2023
budget
and
it's
going
to
be
about
107
thousand
dollars,
but
just
so
you
know
that's
another
another
impact
of
2023
and
then
also
you
know.
If
there's
contract
price
increases,
fuel
cost
supply
costs,
all
of
those
will
affect
2023
as
well,
and
that
was
really
all
I
had.
I
said
like
I
said:
you'll
get
a
meeting
request
for
me
for
the
june
meeting
and
then,
if
you
have
any
questions.