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Description
City of Charleston Army Corps 3x3 Advisory Committee 6/16/21
A
A
B
B
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
and
appreciate
everybody
joining
today.
You
know
we
are
today
going
through
three
items.
You
know
presentation
by
the
city
of
charleston
the
design
center
overview
of
efforts
to
date,
focus
on
most
recent
impact
mitigation
efforts
for
visual
aspects
and
then
have
sport
on
design.
B
Secondly,
and
thanks
to
laura
and
others
for
spreading
this
presentation
by
sherwood
and
associates,
focusing
on
nature
and
nature-based
solutions,
and,
thirdly,
presentation
by
keith,
bowers
biohabitats,
another
focus
on
on
nature
and
nature-based
solutions,
and
particularly
the
imagine
the
wall
project,
a
couple
of
administrative
items
will
attentively
and
will
have
virtual
blogging
as
well.
Attentively
hold
our
first
in-person
meeting
this
coming
week
and
so
we'll
we'll
discuss.
That's
exciting,
we'll
discuss
more
more
detail
on
that
as
well.
Anyway,
I'm
looking
forward
to
getting
to.
D
B
The
presentations
today
so
without
further
ado
mark
kaylin,
please
please
kick
us
off.
E
Thanks,
mr
chairman,
and
welcome
to
everybody
yeah
today,
I
think
we've
got
a
pretty
exciting
agenda
put
together
and,
as
you
know,
when
this
project
early
on
in
this
project,
the
first
couple
years
of
the
project,
there
was
an
incredible
amount
of
concern
about
what
this
would
look
like
in
our
city,
where
it
would
go
what
it
would
look
like,
what
it
would
be
constructed
of,
etc-
and
I
thought
today-
and
there
was
also
a
lot
of
concern
around
the
lack
of
any
natural
or
nature
based
solutions
in
the
solution.
E
So
today
we're
really
fortunate
alan
davis,
who
leads
our
design
center
for
the
city
and
is
if,
if
you
would
have
seen
him
yesterday,
I
think
alan
did
a
remarkable
job
at
the
conference
representing
the
city,
but
he
also
outlined
his
role,
which
is
really
to
defend
the
city,
as
the
city
is
imagined
in
the
future,
and
so
alan
has
really
been
working
hard
with
the
army
corps
of
engineers
on
how
this
would
fit
into
our
city.
How
does
it
work?
E
How
do
we
get
it
in
there
so
that
our
city
remains
the
place
that
we
all
love
today,
then
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
sherwood
associates,
laura
cantrell
and
the
coastal
conservation
league
led
that
effort,
so
tom
jost
and
his
team
are
going
to
give
us
a
presentation
on
their
vid
their
ideas
for
what
some
alternatives
could
be
and
then
keith
bowers
from
biohabitats
did
a
really
nice
effort.
E
Imagine
the
wall
that
happened
very
quickly
after
the
the
original
tenant
of
selected
plan
was
put
out,
and
so
I
asked
keith
if
he
would
come
down
and
share
his
ideas.
I
think
what's
important
to
know
is
these
are
ideas,
concepts
fitting
them
into
the
to
the
army
corps
process,
as
we
heard
yesterday
is
a
little
more
challenging,
but
it
doesn't
mean
it.
It
can't
happen.
It
just
means
that
there's
a
timing
for
it
that
we've
got
to
change
policy.
E
I
think
we
got
a
lot
of
education
on
that
and
what
I'm
talking
about
yesterday
was
a
session
at
the
history
above
water
conference
and
we're
going
to
put
that
up
on
our
website.
So
everybody
will
get
to
watch
it.
It
was
recorded
professionally,
so
you
should
have
a
a
good
recording
so
without
any
further
ado,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
mr
alan
davis,
we're
going
to
give
every
each
presenter
about
15
minutes,
because
we
want
to
leave
a
lot
of
time
for
questions.
F
Good
morning,
everybody
it's
nice
to
see
everybody
this
morning.
Thank
you
for
having
me.
It
was
nice
to
see
some
of
you
in
person
over
the
past
couple
of
days.
It's
really
refreshing
to
be
good
and
seeing
people
in
person
now,
which
is
really
nice
yeah
mark,
I
couldn't
agree
more.
The
past
couple
days
was
very,
very
rewarding
and
enlightening.
I've
had
opportunities,
and
so
to
this
morning,
I'm
going
to
go
through
quite
a
bit
of
content
very
quickly.
F
F
That
kind
of
serves
us
that
does
serve
the
city,
we're
concerned
about
the
entirety
of
the
wall,
and
so
we've
been
looking
at
it
in
different
places
at
different
times
and
and
tracking,
with
the
whole
process,
alongside
the
core
attending
regular
pdt
meetings
and
then
asking
critical
questions
taking
all
of
the
great
work
that's
been
done
by
our
private
sector
and
nonprofit
partners
and
then
using
that
to
propel
forward
a
design
agenda
to
ensure
that
this
wall
perimeter
is
is
as
good
as
it
possibly
can
be.
F
Charleston,
so
I'll
just
go
go
through
my.
My
outline
follows
the
same
outline
as
the
agenda.
I'm
going
to
give
an
overview
of
the
efforts
to
date.
I'm
going
to
talk
about
our
recent
success
with
visual
impact
mitigation
and
cost
estimation,
and
I'm
going
to
give
you
some
thoughts
on
potential
paths
for
mainly
focused
around
three
areas.
F
First
area
being
contribution
to
the
non
non-federal
sponsor
views
that
this
the
city's
is
the
city's
contribution
to
the
feasibility
study,
the
second
being
a
report
from
our
own
division,
about
what
some
of
our
ideas
are
as
a
starting
point
for
the
ped
phase
and
then
number
three
being
anything
and
everything
that
we
can
do
to
prepare
for
that
pet
face.
So
I
will
say
you
know
this
kind
of
mix
of
things,
this
mix
of
ideas-
it's
not
as
linear
as
we
all
like
it
to
be.
F
It's
very
back
and
forth
complex,
it's
more
of
a
web
than
a
line.
So,
but
a
lot
of
the
things
that
I'll
be
talking
about
in
my
overview
have
been
advanced
forward
into
things
that
we've
done
recently
and
things
that
we're
going
to
be
working
on
this
fall
and
the
next
two
years.
F
So
you
know
who
are
we?
First
of
all,
I
I
touched
on
this
yesterday
in
person.
As
mark
mentioned,
I
mean
we
are
the
design
division
of
the
planning
department
of
the
city
of
charleston.
We
operate
the
charleston
civic
design
center
and
that
design
center
and
our
division
was
created
by
mayor
joe
riley.
We
honor
his
legacy
by
ensuring
that
the
downtown
plan
is
properly
implemented
and
preserving,
enhancing
and
defending
the
public
realm
whenever
possible.
You
know
we
do
design
charettes
for
a
whole
bunch
of
different
types
of
projects,
internal
and
external.
F
Here
in
the
building
and
off
site.
We
use
the
design
process
to
develop
reports
and
development,
develop
recommendations
that
we
give
to
the
mayor
the
mayor
as
our
chief
urban
designer
and,
as
I
mentioned,
our
role
on
our
genesis
and
our
role
continues
to
be
to
ensure
the
implementation
of
the
of
the
downtown
plan,
and
we
see
the
the
idea
of
an
integrated
water
plan
as
an
opportunity
to
advance
a
new
downtown,
which
is
very
much
great.
F
I
want
to
go
back
in
time
a
little
bit
to
talk
about
our
work
with
the
low
battery
because
it's
very
informative
to
the
work
that
we're
doing
now.
We
started
with
the
low
battery
because
you
know
the
the
default
plan
was
to
do
a
a
plain,
concrete
wall.
This
is
a
decent
looking
concrete
wall,
it's
got
some
stanchions
and
railings
and
some
articulation,
but
still
there
we
thought
there
was
something
we
could
do
with
the
street.
There's
there's
more
landscape,
we
could
add.
F
F
We
worked
closely
with
our
consultants,
the
design
review
committee,
to
advance
the
design
and
put
that
out
to
the
public
to
get
feedback
to
advance
a
design
that
really
created
the
final
low
battery
design
that
made
this
into
more
of
a
linear
landscape,
with
the
tension
being
paid
to
the
composition
of
the
wall,
the
transition
of
the
wall
itself
to
the
urban
environment,
both
in
terms
of
the
section
to
the
adjacent
parking
and
the
travel
lanes,
but
also
this
individual
street
connections.
What
happens
at
the
end
of
those
streets?
F
How
do
you
go
from
the
the
at-grade
surface
to
up
high
to
the
battery
stairs
railings
landscaping
things
like
that,
but
it's
worth
pointing
out
that
here
we
are
again,
but
you
know
the
the
effort
now
is
magnified
by
by
30.
You
know
we
are
we
are
facing
if
we,
if
we
don't
intervene,
if
we
don't
do
everything
we
can
to
make
this
as
good
as
it
possibly
can
be,
we
are
facing
yet
another
plain,
concrete
wall.
F
It's
my
understanding,
and
I
do
firmly
believe
this-
that
everyone
wants
this
to
be
as
good
as
it
possibly
can
be,
including
the
army
corps
of
engineers
how
to
get.
There
is
going
to
be
a
challenge
for
everybody,
and
it's
going
to
require
some
creative
thinking
similar
to
the
thinking
that
has
been
done
already
by
our
private
sector,
friends,
which
we'll
hear
from
a
little
bit
later.
F
F
You
know,
there's
it's
been
drawn
in
different
ways
in
the
dutch
dialogues,
because
you
know
first
of
all,
they're
from
out
of
town
and
secondly,
you
know
they
didn't
quite
know
exactly
what
the
alignment
of
the
perimeter
would
be
like,
but
it
is
suggestive
that
this
is
something
that's
more
of
a
landscape
than
a
wall
and
the
idea
of
using
somewhat
of
a
dutch
polar
system
you
know
using
landscape
to
manage
our
water.
F
A
little
bit
differently
than
we
have
in
the
past
is
a
really
great
idea
and
it's
been
proven
to
work
in
other
parts
of
the
world.
We
really
analyzed
their
recommendations,
teasing
out
some
of
the
things
they
got
right,
some
of
the
things
that
okay,
maybe
they
were
a
little
bit
too
advanced
in
or
don't
apply
to
us,
so
really
investigated
what
those
recommendations
were
so
the
first
part
about
our
involvement
was
really
trying
to
understand
what
is
being
proposed.
You
know
we
really
couldn't
quite
wrap
our
heads
around
at
first
okay.
F
What
does
12
feet
mean?
Where
is
this
thing
going?
How
wide
is
it?
What
are
the
design
implications
of
it?
What
are
the
standards
that
surround
this,
and
we
learned
very
quickly
that
there's
a
lot
to
be
desired
in
terms
of
the
potential
impact
that
this
would
have
in
our
on
our
public
realm?
You
know
the
the
impact
to
the
urban
tree,
canopy,
the
adjacencies
that
are
permitted
the
ability
or
inability
to
integrate
this
with
planned
development.
F
We
need
more
appreciation
for
those
individual
context,
areas
more
creative
and
individualized
solutions
for
them,
and
also
to
think
about
other
types
of
walls
and
barriers.
Beyond
just
the
t
wall,
the
eyewall
and
the
combo
wall.
We
also
looked
at
you
know
from
a
sectional
point
of
view.
What
are
the?
What
are
the
impacts?
I
mean?
How
close
can
you
have
a
tree?
What
what
is
it
going
to
do
to
our
existing
tree
canopy?
What
is
it
going
to
do
to
our
rights
of
way
and
and
our
mobility
on
the
peninsula?
F
So
we
were
sort
of
taken
aback
at
first
when
we
began
began
to
understand
this
project,
its
potential
product
and
and
the
process
involved,
and
we
also
started
looking
at
gates.
The
gates
are
going
to
be
very
critical
for
us,
the
streetscape
around
the
gates,
making
sure
that
those
are
intentional.
You
know
thinking
about
the
operations
and
maintenance,
obviously
of
the
gates,
but
really
making
sure
that
this,
the
public
realm,
the
streetscape,
the
urban
forest
is
not
an
afterthought.
F
When
it
comes
to
implementing
this
type
of
infrastructure
in
the
city,
we
we
also
more
closely
examined.
What
is
what
the
heights
would
be
from
the
ground
you
know,
staying
12
foot
around
the
peninsula
is
is
that's
the
metric
at
which
we
were
kind
of
basically
going
to
be
guarding
against
the
coastal
storm
surge,
but
that
is
not
the
same
as
talking
about
the
height
from
the
ground,
so
we
just
basically
put
together
these
very
simple
sections,
so
people
can
understand
you
know
what
does
four
feet?
F
Look
like
what
does
eight
feet?
Look
like
you
know:
how
does
this
relate
to
the
human,
because,
after
all,
you
know,
we
really
need
to
be
designing
for
the
human
that
is
the
chief
design
vehicle
for
us
as
urban
designers
to
ensure
that
humans
feel
safe
and
comfortable
as
they
walk
through
our
public
spaces.
F
So
with
this,
it
is
worth
pointing
out.
The
majority
of
the
wall
about
seventy
percent
is
over
seven
feet
high.
F
If
you
craft
the
combo
wall
from
that
you'd
probably
be
looking
at
about
fifty
percent,
maybe
even
just
a
little
bit
less,
but
quite
a
substantial
portion
of
this
wall
that
meanders
through
our
streets
and
public
spaces
being
over
seven
feet
high,
which
is
over
the
height
of
an
average
pedestrian.
F
We
also
are
really
concerned
about
making
sure
that
we
can
be
strategic
about
our
urban,
our
urban
forest
again,
making
sure
that
we
don't
wipe
out
all
the
trees
that
we
all
know
are
so
hard
to
get
on
our
streets.
We
did
some
initial
renderings
right
away,
based
on
perspective,
just
to
kind
of
get
a
feel
for
what
this
thing
might
be
like.
This
is
not
intended
to
express
the
materiality
of
the
wall,
because
that's
just
kind
of
a
discussion
that
would
be
had
later.
F
What
does
it
look
like
in
terms
of
what
the
materials
are
or
their
railings
things
like
that?
This
is
just
to
express
the
height
here.
It
is
in
front
of
the
as
originally
envisioned
a
combo
wall
in
front
of
the
city
marina.
F
Here
it
is
at
the
end
of
calhoun
at
lockwood
in
front
of
the
aquarium
here
it
is
at
the
end
of
buffane
street
on
lockwood.
So,
basically,
you
would
not
really
be
able
to
see
the
the
islands
across
the
river
or
the
river
itself
here
it
is
at
waterfront
park
again.
These
are
just
indications
of
height,
not
materiality
and
individual
design.
Here
it
is
behind
harris
teeter
at
the
end
of
society
street
looking
into
the
port
here
it
is
at
yugi
street.
F
I
think
it's
on
the
the
near
side
of
the
road,
but
it's
still
pretty
tall,
so
we
kind
of
we
kind
of
took
it.
You
know
basically
just
tried
to
understand
what
this
thing
was
going
to
be
like
and
what
are
our
early
reactions
and
this
kind
of
summarizes.
F
We
know
that
this
is
needed.
Okay,
the
first
graphic,
we,
you
know
we
have
a
water
management
problem.
We
are
under
threat
by
a
potential
disaster
from
coastal
storm
surge
and
also
nuisance,
flooding,
sea
level
rise.
I
mean
this
is
this:
is
you
know
we're
not
saying
that
we
don't
need
this,
we're
not
using
these
graphics
to
chase
this
project
away?
F
We
want
this
project,
we
need
it,
but
we
don't
necessarily
agree
on
how
it's
projected
to
be
implemented,
and
we
believe
that
needs
some
work,
as
I've
said
before,
so
we
also
looked
at.
Where
do
we
have
design
and
alignment
concurrence?
Where
do
we
agree
with
the
design
that's
being
proposed?
Where
do
we
agree
with
the
alignments
etc,
and
also
really
looking
at
what
we
call
critical
intersections?
Where
does
this
intersect
plan
major
projects?
F
For
example,
the
ashley
river
crossing
the
multi-million
dollar
pedestrian
bridge
is
going
across
the
ashley
river,
any
streetscape
plans
for
streetscape
such
as
calhoun
street
any
development
sites
that
are
being
planned
both
in
terms
of
in
the
near
term
and
also
in
the
long
term,
especially
according
to
the
1999
downtown
plan.
So
we
really
wanted
to
be
sure
that
we're
not
you
know
cutting
off
of
our
developer
development
opportunities.
F
We
want
to
be
able
to
maximize
the
city
building
that
we
all
need
to
continue
doing
so
here
we
are,
I
mean
we
really
have
to
decide
for
ourselves.
Do
we
want
a
sort
of
baseline,
concrete
wall?
You
know
that
you
see
in
other
places
or
do
we
want
something?
That's
more
like
charleston.
That's,
maybe
greener.
That's
nature
based.
You
know.
F
For
the
majority
of
the
of
the
of
the
betterment,
so
we
we
want
great
design,
but
you
know
we,
the
the
project
is
already
very
expensive,
so
we're
really
going
to
be
limited
on
when
we
can
do
great
design
and
and
where
so
we're
gonna
have
some
hard
decisions
to
make
moving
forward.
I
did
talk
about
the
wall
types,
how
we
want
to
see
more
of
a
variety
of
wall
types,
there's
a
lot
of
wall
types
out
there,
a
lot
of
perimeter
solutions
out
there.
F
We
did
this
graphic
very
early
on
just
kind
of
as
a
question,
and
this
was
carried
forward
in
the
wagner
and
ball
study.
You
know,
can
you
fill
behind
a
combo
wall,
or
can
you
fill
behind
any
wall
so
that
you're
looking
at
green
instead
of
gray?
You
know
think
about
our
street
ends.
Think
about
what
you're
walking
along
think
about
the
transitions
from
the
grade
to
the
wall.
Why
does
it
have
to
be
so
abrupt
or
abrasive?
F
F
So
are
these
really
four
main
variables
that
we're
going
to
have
to
grapple
with
as
we
move
forward
into
ped
number
one
is
the
design
I
talked
about
that
you
know
what
is
the
wall?
What
is
it,
what
type
of
wall
is
it?
What
can
you
do
around
it?
How
can
you
buffer?
How
can
you
buffer
it?
How
can
you
add
things
to
it
to
actually
make
it
more
of
a
landscape,
then
the
alignment
we're
not
in
full
agreement
about
where
the
optimized
plan
is
aligned
working.
F
How
can
we
strategically,
you
know,
move
it
a
few
blocks
out
or
in
or
or
what
have
you
to
make
sure
that
it's
in
the
right
place,
for
example,
if
the
wall
needs
to
be
located
in
more
of
an
industrial
landscape
that
cannot
be
seen
from
the
public
realm
of
the
inside
of
the
city.
That
would
be
more
advantageous
for
a
variety
of
reasons
and
also
cut
down
on
the
need
to
you
know
to
make
it
a
pretty
wall,
because
nobody
would
really
see
it.
F
So
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
trade-offs
involved
in
that,
and
especially
in
terms
of
the
alignment
decisions,
then
we
started
talking
about
you
know
the
these
two
other
variables
are
a
little
bit
more
unique
and
they're
they're
new
for
us,
but
they
started
to
kind
of
come
to
the
surface
number
one
is
the
moments.
You
know
what
happens
at
the
gates,
what
happens
at
these
individual
spits
of
land
where
at
the
end
of
streets
where
you
can
go
and
sit
on
a
bench
and
look
at
the
water
right
now?
F
You
know
these
moments
that
we
have
in
our
city,
these
small
spaces.
What
happens
when
a
wall
goes
through
that
space
or
around
that
space
and
then,
of
course,
materials?
We're
gonna,
we're
really
gonna
be
concerned
with
what
it
looks
like
if
it
is
just
a
wall
in
some
places
it
is
going
to
have
to
just
be
a
wall
and
that's
okay.
F
We
have
walls
in
our
city,
other
cities
have
walls,
but
we
in
charleston,
especially
when
it
comes
to
the
private
sector,
have
very
high
expectations
about
the
composition
of
those
walls,
the
materiality
whether
or
not
they
contain.
You
know
railings
and
different
types
of
articulations
and
landscape
in
front
of
it.
Things
like
that
so
materials.
F
F
I
talked
about
the
spits
of
land
that
kind
of
occur
around
the
peninsula
or
really
paying
close
attention
to
them.
You
know:
there's
a
rail
spur
around
the
citadel,
that's
very
interesting!
There's
a
rail
spur
on
the
upper
east
side
area
near
the
ravenel
bridge
that
could
be
an
amenity
that
could
be
something
to
help
people
get
out
into
the
water.
F
We
really
want
to
be
sure
that
the
wall
allows
for
that
allows
for
those
spaces
to
be
accessed
in
in,
in
a
way
increasing
access
to
the
rip
to
the
riverfront
and
not
you
know,
reducing
access
to
the
riverfront
and
that
access
to
us
is
defined
in
two
terms:
visual
and
physical
access
being
able
to
get
to
it
being
able
to
see
it.
I
talked
about
the
intersections.
I
talked
about
the
concurrence
this
one
through.
Sixteen
is
reflective
of
a
a
character-based
mapping
that
we
did.
F
F
Another
big
idea
that
came
at
the
very
beginning-
and
I
think,
I'm
way
over
on
time
so
I'll
hurry
up
the
idea
of
having
a
having
a
walkway
all
the
way
around
the
peninsula,
this
green
loop-
we
really
really
want
to.
We
really
want
to
have
that
be
implemented.
We
looked
at
all
of
the
possible
configurations.
F
We
used
different
maps
to
try
to
encourage
the
core
to
think
about
different
alignments
and
co-locations
in
different
ways.
A
lot
of
this
will
be
in
our
final
report.
We
deep
we
debriefed
with
wagner
and
ball
kind
of
downloaded
everything.
We've
been
thinking
to
date
so
that
they
could
get
all
of
this
incorporated
into
their
report
and
we
created
this
composite
map.
That
includes
all
the
notes
and
potential
alignments
and
views
of
concern
locations
of
renderings.
These
moments
that
we
keep
talking
about.
F
So
we're
really
trying
to
track
this
geographically,
as
we
go
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
use
some
of
my
time
to
talk
about
the
progress
that
we've
made
with
aesthetic
mitigation
so
through
the
through
the
eis
process
and
the
in
what's
called
the
v-wrap
the
visual
resources
assessment
procedure
that
is
inside
the
army
corps
of
engineers.
Obviously,
the
document
is
a
little
bit
dated,
but
it
still
very
much
applies.
It
allows
us
to
use
urban
design
language
urban
form,
language,
urban
space,
to
talk
about
the
quality
of
the
wall
and
its
potential
impact.
F
You
know
and
there's
a
very
complex
procedure
that
that
mark
really
helped
us
with,
and
the
sort
reservation
society
and
charleston
foundation
also
helped
us
with
this
to
really
start
to
understand.
Using
these
terms
like
spatial
dominance
and
scale
contrast
and
compatibility,
what
will
the
visual
impact
of
the
wall
be?
And,
of
course
you,
as
you
might
suggest,
as
you
might
guess,
the
the
the
findings
are
going
to
be
that
there
is
a
significant
impact
in
terms
of
the
visual
and
aesthetic
quality
of
the
space.
F
We
did
these
very,
very
simple
renderings.
Following
the
v-rap
protocol,
through
the
army
corps
of
engineers,
to
you
know,
select
views
and
to
show
what
the
wall
would
be
like
again,
not
materiality
but
just
height.
So
we
can
talk
about
scale,
contrast
and
and
compatibility,
and
things
like
that
here,
it
is
at
the
end
of
st
margaret
street.
Here
it
is
along
lockwood.
F
F
What
does
this
look
like
at
the
street
ends,
particularly
if
you
have
gates?
So?
Basically,
we
found
a
significant
impact,
but
we've
been
working
with
the
corps
of
engineers
and
their
landscape,
architect,
diane
perkins,
to
come
up
with
a
way
to
account
for
the
potential
cost
of
aesthetic
mitigation
in
the
feasibility
report
to
be
able
to
affect
the
cost
share
so
that
the
these
mitigation,
these
mitigation
elements
are
actually
covered
under
mitigation
and
they
don't
get
put
off
as
betterments.
F
In
recreation
later
in
the
process,
that
would
be
more
on
the
city's
dime
rather
than
than
cost
shared.
So
it
was
a
really
great
exercise.
We
used
our
character
segments,
we
basically
inventoried
every
single
idea.
That's
been
floated
by
difficulty,
talked
about
these
different
design
variables
with
the
core.
We
did
a
lot
of
drawing
with
them,
and
these
are
just
sketches.
I
mean
these
are
not
you
know.
These
are
not
intended
to
be
refined
drawings
at
all.
F
We
were
done
on
calls
in
five
minutes
to
talk
about
what
our
ideas
were,
so
that
we
can
get
a
general
cost
estimate
about.
You
know
first
set
of
mitigation.
I
don't
I
don't
have
time
to
go
through
these.
I've
already
used
up
too
much
of
my
time,
but
suffice
it
to
say
you
know
we
really
push
them
to
think
creatively
to
try
to
think
about
the
the
wall
as
more
than
just
a
wall.
F
To
think
about
you
know
what
kind
of
sort
of
I
don't
call
them
bells
and
whistles,
but
treatments
that
we
would
do
to
help.
You
know
be
sure
that
we're
compatible
with
our
development
that
the
wall
is
located.
Where
it's
supposed
to
be-
and
it
is
part-like
in
nature,
making
sure
that
we
can
account
for
all
of
those
potential
costs,
so
we
just
did
a
lot
of
drawing
with
them.
F
We
looked
at
different
things
like
berms
and
how
you
get
up
and
down
berms
things
like
that,
especially
along
lockwood,
there's,
a
there's,
a
location
at
the
end
of
the
beginning
of
the
high
battery,
where
they're
basically
got
this
triangle,
that's
going
to
cut
off
the
the
current
battery
beach.
That's
something
that's
very
important
to
me.
I
love
that
beach.
I
think
it's
really
cool
I've.
Seen
people
go
down
there
and
collect
shark
teeth
and
pick
up
boat
rides
and
things
like
that.
F
But
if
they're
going
to
cut
that
off
of
the
wall
and
just
leave
it,
you
can't
really
just
leave
it
right.
You
have
to
do
something
with
it.
It
may
not
look
like
this
again.
This
is
just
a
sketch,
but
it
does.
It
could
be
something
that
is
more
of
an
open
space
rather
than
a
wall
with
nothing
behind
it.
We're
really
thinking
strategically
about
you
know
what
happens
at
intersections
again.
So
here
is
concord
street
and
here's
the
here's
the
wall
located
along
the
median.
F
What
happens
if
you
sort
of
pull
that
wall
back
behind
a
private
property
that
we
as
a
city
own
that
property?
We
can
pull
that
back
and
then
be
able
to
allow
that
intersection
to
continue
having
trees
and
vegetation
and
your
landscape,
nice
crosswalks,
and
things
like
that
again.
I
mentioned
the
paths
forward.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
taking
up
too
much
time
number
one!
F
We're
really
focused
on
the
non-federal
sponsor
views,
making
sure
that
all
of
our
ideas
and
perspectives
are
are
basically
iterated
to
the
core
so
that
we
can
establish
our
expectations
as
a
design
city
and
also
the
the
level
of
involvement
and
creativity
that
we
want
in
the
ped
phase
things
that
we're
going
to
want
to
look
at
when
we
get
to
that
point,
we're
going
to
package
all
of
our
work
in
a
design
division
report,
it's
going
to
be
basically
a
reinterpretation
of
majority
of
the
sketches
that
you've
just
seen
all
the
maps.
F
All
that
stuff
is
going
to
be
packaged
for
people
to
to
think
about
we're
shooting
for
september
10th.
On
that,
and
then
we've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
over
the
next
couple
of
years.
We
need
a
new
downtown
plan,
integrated
water
plan,
various
studies
we're
going
to
continue
working
with
our
private
sector
partners
on
their
development
terminal.
You
know
things
like
that
are
really
going
to
be
important
over
the
next
couple
of
years,
and
I
I
made
a
list-
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
of
them.
F
You
know
these
are
the
things
that
we
push
forward
in
our
in
our
contribution
to
the
non-federal
sponsor
views
memo
mark's
going
to
get
this,
I'm
sure
the
mayor
will
then
get
this
to
to
make
sure
that
we're
covering
all
our
bases
and
and
saying
what
we
want
to
say
about
how
we
want
to
handle
ped
and
design
in
in
a
couple
of
years
when
the,
when
the
project
is
approved
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
E
Thank
you,
alan.
That
was
great
and
I'll.
Just
I
just
want
to
throw
a
couple
of
things
out
there.
One
allen
is
really
dragging,
and
I
mean
dragging
the
army
corps
of
engineers
forward
in
the
way
they're
thinking
and-
and
I
gotta
say,
the
army
corps
team
here
in
charleston
is
moving
right
with
them.
They're
excited
about
the
work
he's
doing
again.
All
of
this
is
tbd
when
we
get
to
pad
and
how
far
we
can
actually
drag
them,
but
right
now
they
are
eager
to
work
without
and
allen's
doing
some
amazing
stuff.
E
The
other
cities
were
really
impressed,
and
then
I
I
think
the
the
thing
that
I
always
take
away
from
presentations
like
this.
When
I
see
how
high
that
wall
is,
is
just
the
threat
that
our
peninsula
is
under
and
if
they're
going
to
build
a
wall
like
that,
many
people
tell
us
it
needs
to
even
be
higher
that
that's
the
thing
that
I
walk
away
is
just
that's
pretty
frightening,
but
with
that,
let's
move
on
to
the
next
presentation,
and
that
would
be
with
sherwood
and
associates
laura.
A
I
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
time.
I
just
want
to
say
that
we're
really
excited
to
have
the
opportunity
to
share
the
ideas
that
sherwood
design
engineers
has
come
up
with
and-
and
I
think
you'll
see
a
lot
of
dovetailing
with
what
alan
has
presented
and
all
the
presentations
today
and
that
we
were
able
to
bring
sherwood
on
board
to
do
this
work
in
partnership
with
the
southern
environmental
law
center,
and
I
see
a
couple
of
our
colleagues
christian
and
jenny.
A
G
Hey
am
thank
you
laura
appreciate
it
good
morning,
everyone
and-
and
thank
you
so
much
for
for
allowing
us
to
present
and
mark
and
hey
good.
Thank
you
so
much
for
putting
together
this
collection
of
presentations,
because
I
think
the
synergies
you
know
between
these
different
presentations
really
speak
to
this
dialogue.
G
This
public
conversation
that
is
taking
place
that
is
going
to
drive,
thinking
towards
holistic
resilience
in
charleston
and
really,
I
think,
make
charleston
a
pilot
for
how
we
think
about
adaptation
in
the
future,
and
so
I
just
want
to
express
our
appreciation
of
being
involved
in
this
conversation
and
hope
that
we
are
able
to
contribute
to
achieving
a
great
future
solutions
for
charleston.
So
jim
go
ahead
to
the
to
the
next
slide
and
you
can
skip
past
our
index.
You
can
skip
past
the
table
of
contents
to
the
next
slide.
G
We
really
worked
in
partnership
with
both
of
those
organizations
and-
and
this
presentation
is
representative
of
our
collective
thinking
and
desires,
and
what
we
wanted
to
do
first
is
focus
on
what
what
really
we
mean
by
resilience
and
how
we
think
about
resilience
in
the
context
of
a
place
like
charleston,
and
we
came
up
with
three
overarching
principles.
G
The
the
first
is
that
that
we
need
a
layered
approach.
We
we
need
an
approach
that
is
sensitive
to
adaptation
that
recognizes
that
the
risks
that
we
face
are
still
unknown
and
provides
multiple
lines
of
defense
so
that
we
are
not
creating
a
situation
where
we
have
a
singular
sort
of
failure.
Point
in
what
we
do
to
protect
the
community,
and
so
this
layered
approach
to
to
building
resilience
in
charleston
is
very
important.
G
The
second
is
that
we
need
to
think
holistically
it's
hard
to
do,
but
we
need
to
think
about
the
current
economic
conditions.
We
need
to
think
about
the
historic
conditions
that
that
led
to
the
the
development
of
charleston
and
we
need
to
think
about
the
character
of
all
communities
and
the
different
climate
conditions
that
are
going
to
affect
those
communities
in
the
future.
G
Whatever
efforts
are
taken,
whether
it's
to
protect
against
storm
and
sea
level
rise,
they
have
to
be
done
in
the
context
of
thinking
about
all
of
the
factors
that
are
affecting
this
community,
so
that
these
improvements
are
done
within
the
context
of
this
kind
of
collective
ultimate
resilience.
G
Adaptation
and
the
third
is
a
focus
on
nature
and
how
nature
can
be
brought
into
the
protection
strategy
in
a
way
that
thinks
about
long-term
ecological
growth,
the
sustaining
of
the
ecosystems
that
are
so
critical
to
this
community
and
really
thinking
about
ecology
and
nature,
as
not
just
protection
but
part
of
the
future
of
charleston,
in
a
way
to
really
bring
nature
in
a
sense
back
and
improve
upon
the
natural
conditions
within
charleston,
while
we're
achieving
protection.
So
next
slide.
Jim.
G
And
and
this
this
site
context
like
the
the
design,
the
design,
division
and
and
really
really
great,
to
see
the
presentation,
design,
division
and
the
comprehensive
nature
of
how
they
looked
into
all
of
these
very
complex
communities
and
conditions,
and-
and
really,
I
think,
emphasized
this-
need
to
think
about
charleston,
not
as
a
singular
place.
The
peninsula
is
a
singular
place,
but
a
collection
of
complex
conditions
that
that
require
localized
solutions,
and
you
can
look
at
the
historic
conditions
as
well
of
of
this
marshland
that
has
been
largely
filled
in.
G
G
One
of
the
things
that
we're
really
focusing
on
is
how
do
we
contin
continue
this
dialogue
with
the
army
corps
and
drive
forward
solutions
that
can
embrace
the
federal
process
and
can
allow
us
to
achieve
this
kind
of
holistic
opportunity
in
partnership
with
our
federal
partners,
and
one
of
the
the
big
focuses
is
on
the
army
corps.
Nature-Based
approach
their
natural
and
nature-based
features
and
mdf
opportunities
elsewhere
within
the
country
within
the
army
corps,
they
have
been
looking
at
nature-based
adaptation
and
successfully
piloting
opportunities
to
bring
nature
into
protection.
G
We
want
to
really
lean
on
some
of
their
own
experiences,
some
of
their
own
pilots
for
doing
this
and
saying
that
charleston
will
be
the
next
place
where
we
take
that
to
the
next
level
generation
of
nature-based
features
and
I'm
going
to
turn
the
presentation
of
the
focus
areas
that
we
worked
on
over
the
gym
and
I'll
follow
up
at
the
end,
with
a
conversation
about
one
of
our
three
spaces.
G
Okay,
I
will
keep
going
as
as
jim
works
through
his
through
through
through
his
ability
to
to
jump
online,
so
obviously
like
the
design
center.
We
have
been
influenced
both
by
the
thinking
of
our
of
of
our
partners
at
cco
and
sclc,
but
also
the
lessons
learned
from
the
dutch
dialogues
and
imagine
the
wall.
All
of
these
conversations
are
building
towards
a
singular
solution.
Jim
can
you
go
back
to
present
presenting
and
showing
your
yeah
showing
the
slide
presentation
thanks.
G
What
we
focused
on
were
multiple
locations,
multiple
edge
conditions
that
we
felt
were
representative
of
different
components
of
the
charleston
community,
the
obviously
the
waterfront
area
of
the
of
the
battery,
the
area
around
the
medical
district,
and
then
we
also
chose
a
third
community,
the
community
of
rosemont,
which
actually
currently
sits
outside
of
the
protection
wall,
but
is
very
important
and
very
representative
of
many
communities
that
are
kind
of
outside
of
the
protection
boundary.
G
G
This
image,
it
kind
of,
illustrates
the
location
of
the
army
three
by
three
by
three
study:
wall
surge
wall
from
the
the
first
iteration
of
that
and
the
three
locations
of
the
break
water
at
the
southern
end,
the
lockwood
corridor
area
and
rosemont
are
the
three
areas
and
again
our
design
considerations
are
adaptation,
consideration
of
the
character
of
places
of
the
city,
the
quality
of
life
currently
and
the
connection
to
water
that
exists
that
is
so
instrumental
to
the
foundation
of
the
of
the
city
and
then
also
the
kind
of
holistic
flooding
conditions
that
we
face,
both
coastal
flooding
and
inland
flooding
that
we
need
to
address,
and
ultimately,
adaptation
and
understanding
the
threat
of
climate
change.
G
C
G
C
Yeah,
absolutely
sorry
about
that
confusion
with
the
headset
there,
but
thanks
tom
for
walking
us
up
to
kind
of
our
our
first
of
three
kind
of
of
the
the
locations
that
we
that
we
studied
the
first
area
we
looked
at
was
this
time
the
tip
of
the
the
peninsula
or
the
breakwater,
and,
as
we
know,
the
army
proposed
the
the
opportunity
for
applying
a
breakwater
at
the
edge,
and
we
kind
of
really
wanted
to
study
this
a
bit
further
to
understand
what
are
the
opportunities
for
thinking
through
a
strategy
like
that,
but
there's
a
really
interesting
sensitivity
to
this
of
history
and
character
of
the
place
and
knowing
that
the
wall
and
it's
in
in
in
its
place
to
create
protection
might
not
be
the
only
solution.
C
So
as
we
studied
it.
In
short,
we
basically
took
a
took
a
look
back
at
the
history
of
this
location
and
through
analysis.
We
really
understood
that
the
tip
of
of
charleston
used
to
have
an
historic
marshland
prior
to
them,
building
the
the
battery,
and
so
the
you
know,
the
marshland
shift
to
something.
That's
a
little
bit
more
structural
actually
is
was
an
interesting
component
for
us
to
analyze.
So
when
thinking
about
really
what
is
the
future
of
this
edge,
you
know
if
it
continued
to
be
a
hard
edge.
C
Is
there
a
way
in
which
we
could
think
about
rebuilding
this
edge?
To
begin
to
build
back
in
some
ecology,
no
character
of
the
breakwater
is
something
that
it
does
not
want
to
get
removed,
but
rather
should
be
protected.
Is
there
a
way
to
do
both
and,
and
this
kind
of
analysis
got
to
got
us
to
drive
for
basically
to
set
up
our
design
drivers
for
this
exact
location?
C
We
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
weren't,
you
know
doing
anything.
You
know
as
far
as
level
protection
anything
less
than
what
the
army
corps
was
presenting.
We
wanted
to
think
through
the
strategies
of
embedding
ecology
and
building
back
in
historical
and
see
how
that
was
potentially
possible
and
feasible
with
the
the
break
idea,
and
with
that
you
know
it
helped
us
to
really
think
through
any
one
of
these
locations
that
we're
looking
at
is
to
understand,
as
it
was
raised
earlier
with.
C
The
idea
that
you
know
charles
is
unique.
Character
of
the
city
has
to
be
a.
It
has
to
have
some
part
of
the
response
in
his
future
protection,
so
that
was
a
key
key
for
us
in
thinking
through
how
the
strategy
might
link
up
and
then
also
allow
for
some
adaptability
in
the
future.
As
we
know,
you
know
you
can
build
a
wall
and
that
could
provide
some
protection
for
tomorrow,
but
what
happens
in
the
future?
How
does
this
this
design
now
help
us
to
really
create
a
solution
in
the
future?
C
The
co-benefits
of
really
thinking
about
an
edge,
that's
along
the
the
actual
break
water
was,
was
really
pretty
a
breakwater
that
would
reduce
the
energy
would
reduce
the
wave
setup
and
controls
it
would
help
to
reduce
erosion,
but
also
allow
for
some
natural
sedimentation
and
water
quality
improvement
along
the
edge
so
creating
habitat,
bringing
back
that
marshland.
Having
that
be
a
part
of
charleston
that
builds,
builds
even
more
character
in
this
location,
but
also
some
resilient
time
with
our
design.
C
As
we
kind
of
look
through
it,
there's
really
a
couple
different
steps
that
we
see
on
iteration,
so
there's
some
phase
ability
to
this
design
where
basically,
if
we
were
to
build
a
breakwater
out
from
the
existing
edge,
this
allows
us
to
first
reduce
wave
energy
at
its
initial
state,
provide
protection
initially
and
then
allow
for,
as
sea
level
does
rise.
Allow
for
some
adaptability
so
allow
you
to
actually
increase
the
height
of
that
berm
allow
for
more
sedimentation
within
within
the
berm
edge,
so
between
the
berm
and
the
wall.
C
The
existing
wall
and
also
allow
for
some
of
that
ecosystem
to
to
be
to
be
to
thrive
basically
and
that
allows,
for
you
know
a
more
interesting
edge
condition
which
still
to
basically
create
some
an
adaptable
edge
or
panel
glass
panel,
is
what
we
were
providing
as
a
solution
against
the
the
actual
wall
on
top
of
the
wall
and
with
this
design
you
you
build
back
ecology
over
time.
C
You,
the
wave
fight,
you
keep
the
historic
edge,
and
you
also
allow
in
and
even
a
further
adaptability
over
time
is
that
could
that
that
now
ecosystem
or
that
that
marshland
in
between
in
certain
parts,
could
that
be
filled
in
to
be
great,
almost
like
a
a
a
horizontal
berm
that
could
actually
create
some
wetland
over
time.
C
So,
thinking
about
that,
you
know
if
we're
just
building
up,
we
also
have
to
create
some
idea
of
adaptability
at
the
horizontal
engine
as
well,
and
this
is
one
solution
on
how
we
we
thought
through
it,
the
next
area
of
focus,
as
we
kind
of
walk
up
that
western
edge
of
charleston,
and
we
focus
on
the
next
area
of
concern.
C
We
thought
that
at
the
lockwood
corridor
in
the
medical
district
offered
a
really
unique
opportunity
to
study
an
area
where
marshland
was
is
probably
the
densest
of
all
of
charleston,
but
also
a
really
rich
character
of
a
neighborhood.
The
medical
district,
which
is
you
know,
super
important
to
charleston
and
the
neighborhoods
around
it
and
the
coast
guard
to
the
south.
C
So,
as
we
thought
about
this
specific
area,
you
know
we
we
had
to
basically
first
understand:
where
are
the
critical
infrastructure
components
in
this
area,
knowing
that
we
studied
improvements
that
were
already
in
place
and
the
capital
improvements
that
we
know
were
going
to
happen
in
the
lockwood,
the
lockwood
neighborhood,
and
how
those
were
kind
of
getting
linked.
C
In
with
with
with
long
lake,
we
we
met
with
the
medical
district,
we
understood
kind
of
some
of
their
future
future
stormwater
management
decisions
that
they
were
up
against,
as
well
as
how
they
were
thinking
through
some
of
their
strategies,
and
we
also
under
with
community
members
to
understand
how
how
are
the
current
conditions
affecting
them
and
what
are
some
of
the
things
that
they
see
could
be
implemented
in
a
plan.
C
Like
this,
so
you
know,
as
we
understand
there's,
one
of
the
things
that
really
rose
to
the
top
to
us
was
actually
understanding
that
the
corridor
itself,
the
road,
has
many
times
it
floods.
You
know
many
times
a
year
in
some
cases
once
some
once
a
month
which
allows
for
limited
access,
which
started
to
kind
of
flip
the
dialogue
and
understand
what
is
that
edge
condition
doing
now,
and
how
could
that
as
an
implement
as
a
way
to
implement
that
into
our
solution.
C
So
the
design
drivers
here
again
we're
creating
the
same
kind
of
protection
for
that
army
corps
would
protect
or
would
be
providing
understanding,
storm
surge
protection
heights,
the
character
of
the
area,
thinking
through
the
capital
improvements
within
the
the
inland,
the
conditions
and
understanding
how
to
maybe
rethink
some
of
the
transportation
networks
and
how
they
can
be
changed
over
time
and
embedding
that,
in
a
condition
where
we're
integrating.
You
know
a
medical
district,
a
coast
guard
and
a
neighborhood
together.
C
So
as
we
we've
kind
of
stepped
through
this
process
as
a
way
to
to
approach
it
with
there,
there's
an
edge
condition
that
we
need
to
protect.
But
there's
also
some
ability
again
to
phase
this
solution
over
time,
which
I
think
is
something
that
allows
for
the
the
character
of
this
place
to
kind
of
take
hold,
as
well
as
to
provide
protection
that
it
needs.
So
we
as
we
walk
down
those
sections,
you're
really
seeing
the
existing
conditions.
C
Today,
at
lockwood,
the
army
corps
proposition
and
for
us
option,
one
was
to
create
a
horizontal
berm
that
stretches
to
the
marshland,
but
also
provides
the
adaptability
of
that
marsh
to
grow
over
time.
As
we
know,
you
know,
with
sea
level,
rise
that
marsh,
while
it's
thriving
now
will
it
will
die
off
inevitably
in
the
future.
So
this
this
solution
allows
for
that
that
the
mitigation
that
allows
for
it
to
continue
to
thrive
and
grow
over
time
as
well
as
act
as
a
protection
component
for.
D
C
This
this
option
also
reduces
the
number
of
lanes,
so
still
keeps
lockwood
corridor
open,
but
reduces
it.
So
there
will
be
considerations
for
traffic,
but
we
thought
that
this
was
actually
something
that
is
liberal
is
is
being
lived
in
right
now
and
an
option
opportunity
to
really
think
deeper
about
how
that
network
is
performing
in
the
future.
And
then
we
go
to
option
one
a
and
one
b,
and
it's
really
a
prioritization
is-
is
the
priority
still
to
make
maintain
lockwood
and
there's
ways
in
which
we
could
maintain
that
that
roadway
maybe
cover
it.
C
This
has
been
done
in
other.
You
know:
nation
nationals,
conditions,
we've
looked
at
this
in
brooklyn
bridge
park
and
the
bqe
a
realignment
that
they're
thinking
through
and
betting
embedding
and
open
spaces
and
option.
One
b,
which
which
could
be
even
more
feasible,
is
where
the
network
is
actually
re-evaluating
altogether
and
then
this
edge
now
becomes
a
protective
barrier
that
can
change
over
time.
That
can
grow
can
rise,
arise,
changing
issues
and
climate
change,
but
also
creates
a
space
where
the
neighborhood
can
be
connected
and
the
medical
district.
C
The
coast
guard
can
have
an
edge,
and
I
think
it
was
brought
earlier
about
this
idea
of
a
kind
of
a
green
spine
around
the
entire
network
of
charleston,
and
we
thought
that
this
would
be
a
really
interesting
part
to
start
really
thinking
through
how
that
could
could
come
to
be.
This
is
a
rendering
that
kind
of
shows
how
those
condition
conditions
would
connect,
connects
the
neighborhood
through
some
fingers
of
green,
that
are
allowing
for
stormwater
enhancement
within
neighborhoods.
It
allows
for
a
connection
to
the
medical
district
to
the
left
there.
C
D
G
Just
rosemont
is
that
third
community,
it
sits
outside
the
the
wall
and
one
of
the
the
key
elements
here
is,
in
addition
to
thinking
about
incorporation
of
nature-based
solutions
into
the
army
corps
process.
We
really
want
to
focus
on
how
do
you
handle
these
communities
that
have
been
addressed
in
the
three
by
three
by
three
plan
as
areas
that
need
protection,
but
that
that
protection
is
not
part
of
the
three
by
three
three
by
three
by
three
process?
How
can
we
integrate
protection
for
communities
like
rosemont
into
this
process?
G
Rosemont
is,
as
those
of
those
of
you
who
live
in
charleston,
know
it's
an
it's
a
it's
a
community,
that's
been
isolated
by
major
regional
infrastructure
improvements
that
have
potentially
generated
positive
economic
growth
in
the
region,
but
at
kind
of
at
the
expense
of
this
local
community
is
isolated.
It's
a
primarily
black
community
and
it
has
really
faced
a
lot
of
struggles
and
and
and
certainly
will
in
the
future,
face
struggles
relating
to
climate
change.
Go
to
the
next
slide
jim.
G
What
what
we
feel?
It's
very
important
to
think
about
with
with
rosemont
is
the
fact
that
this
community
really
has
not
been
engaged
in
the
conversation
and
that,
as
we
think,
about
solutions
for
rosemont
they
they
need
to
be
thought
about
in
the
context
of
how
this
community
is
going
to
grow
and
evolve
and
continue
to
thrive
in
the
future,
the
amenity
of
the
marsh
is
very
important.
G
They
have
runoff
conditions
that
that
they
face
not
just
from
coastal
flooding
but
from
the
sound
walls
that
have
been
that
have
been
built
up
and
the
fact
that
they
have
poor
local
drainage.
So
there
are
ponding
issues
and
and
edge
conditions
that
we
have
to
think
about.
So
what
we
want
to
do
here
is
empower
rosemont
and
really
invoke
a
community-based
planning
process
that
leads
us
to
the
resilient
solutions
that
are
most
appropriate
for
this
community.
So
you
go
to
the
next
slide.
G
Jim,
the
you
you,
the
united
states
of
the
federal
level
hud,
has
has
produced
a
number
of
these
kind
of
community-based
resilience
plans,
and
we
feel
that
this
is
a
golden
opportunity
for
the
army
corps
to
incorporate
this
kind
of
planning
directly
into
this
process,
developing
a
plan
and
setting
aside
capital
dollars
to
move
forward
on
multiple
capital
projects
that
are
part
of
the
resilience
plan
for
communities
like
this
as
part
of
the
expenditure
in
the
capital
program
for
the
three
by
three
by
three
plan.
G
These
resilience-based
plans
can
be
done
quickly,
three
four
months
and
they
can
really
generate
community
involvement,
community
consensus
and
shared
consensus
around
the
best
solution
for
communities
such
as
this.
What
we've
done
in
looking
at
this,
and
also
in
engaging
with
the
community
as
ccl
and
seo
lc,
has
already
done
just
identified
some
of
the
the
conditions
that
are
important
and
some
starting
points
for
thinking
about
how
you
would
solve
for
resilience
in
a
community
like
rosemont.
One
of
the
critical
elements
is
this
idea
of
what
we
would
call
blue
and
green
streets.
G
The
the
drainage
in
the
current
community
is
is
somewhat
not
existed
in
the
local
road
system.
How
can
we
reconstruct
that
road
system
that
will
benefit
the
community
but
also
create
a
way
to
capture
water
and
reduce
the
threat
of
inland
flooding
or
flash
flooding
that
this
community
experiences
on
a
daily
basis,
so
that
one
of
the
components
would
be
thinking
inside
the
community
at
the
edge?
This
community
is,
as
has
illustrated,
its
desire
to
stay
connected
to
the
marsh.
G
So
can
we
use
the
marsh
as
a
resilience,
a
piece
of
resilience
infrastructure
that
can
also
continue
to
be
part
of
this
community
and
maybe
even
make
it
more
connected
to
the
community.
We've
proposed
a
couple
of
options:
this
integrated
earth,
berm
and
horizontal
levy
that
would
be
kind
of
built
in
adjacent
to
the
community.
G
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
jim,
something
that
could
be
kind
of
constructed
more
at
the
edge
controlling
water
with
a
deployable
barrier
that
would
modify
the
kind
of
the
flow
in
and
out
of
the
marsh
change
the
ecology
of
the
marsh
somewhat.
But
but
not
this
diminish
the
ecology
of
the
marsh.
But
add
to
the
the
ecology
as
part
of
protection,
and
then
the
third
would
be
really
looking
at
this.
G
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
this
approach
to
a
integrated
berm
park
and
horizontal
levee,
allowing
the
water
in
but
kind
of
controlling
that
water
and
controlling
how
the
water
would
would
flow
into
the
marsh
and
building
out
this
strengthened
green
space
around
the
community
that
would
be
connected
to
the
marsh.
These
are
all
options.
The
key
here,
though,
is
this
ability
to
carry
forward
these
context-sensitive
place-based
solutions
to
communities,
get
their
buy-in
and
use
that
process
of
empowerment
to
drive
forward
the
best
capital
program
for
communities
such
as
rosemont.
C
Yeah
yeah,
so
I
mean,
in
short,
like
our
recommendation,
is,
is
really
to
think
through
the
identity
of
and
the
ecology
and
the
communities
that
that
exist.
You
know
the
reason
why
we
broke
up
the
three
specific
areas
that
we
did
was
to
think
about
the
realities,
right,
that
there
is
an
edge
condition
in
charleston,
that's
not
unique,
and
that
a
solution
that
is
really
singular
with
in
which
the
army
corps
is
approaching.
C
It
seems
like
an
opportunity
to
really
think
a
little
bit
deeper
and
to
build
in
some
of
the
nature
based
solutions
that
we
have
identified
here.
We
know
that
the
army
corps
has
a
bit
of
the
ability
to
think
through
some
of
the
strategies
that
we
put
forth
and
ask
them
to
kind
of
really,
where
applicable,
think
through
the
these
options
and
where
they
might
might
best
be
be
suited
and
where
they
best
align
with.
C
As
we
know,
the
solution
is
something
that
has
to
take
into
effect,
not
only
that
edge,
but
also
the
inland
conditions,
the
communities,
the
stormwater
issues
that
we'll
be
facing
over
time.
So
we
want
to
you,
know,
leverage
our
future
and
existing
infrastructure
and
then
really
think
about
multiple
edge
conditions
that
that
can
exist.
You
know,
so
our
ask
is
really
that
they,
they
record,
you
know,
pilot
multifunctional
layer,
protection
really
that
can
then
adapt
to
these
future
conditions
and
to
really
help
to
to
link
charleston
with
a
solution
for
its
future.
E
Okay,
thank
you
jim.
Thank
you.
Tom
much
appreciated
lots
to
think
about
there.
I
think
the
yeah
we
agree
with
you
we're
we.
We
would
love
to
see
charleston
as
the
pilot
and
you're
going
to
see
that,
certainly
in
our
ass
to
the
army
corps-
and
I
think
our
local
army
corps
office
would
like
to
see
charleston,
be
part
of
the
pilot
on
that
as
well,
and
I
think
we're
going
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
of
the
same.
E
Keith
bowers,
as
many
of
you
know,
runs
a
firm
here
in
charleston
by
habitats,
but
it
actually
is
reaches
worldwide
on
doing
eco,
restoration
and
nature
and
natural
base
solutions
for
things
like
this
and
keith,
and
his
team
put
together
a
very
similar
product
and
we
want
to
hear
from
keith
and
ask
keith,
maybe
if,
during
this,
if
he
could
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
his
interaction
with
the
corps,
what
he
might
see
is
the
future
opportunities
as
well.
It's
all
yours.
D
Thanks
yeah,
so
thanks
everyone
for
giving
us
this
time
to
to
talk
with
all
of
you.
I
think
one
of
the
advantages
of
going
last
is
to
kind
of
play
off
of
what
everybody
else
has
said,
but
I
also
recognize
that
our
time
is
is
slowly
running
out
here.
So
I'll
try
to
move
through
this.
D
I
think
you
are
going
to
see
a
lot
of
overlap
and
synergy
between
what
we
developed
and
imagine
the
wall
and
what
jim
and
tom
just
went
over
and
what
alan
talked
about
as
well,
which
I
think
is
fantastic.
It's
really
good
to
see
all
this
come
together
like
this.
So
just
really
quick
a
bit
of
a
back
story
in
in
terms
of
how
we
developed
this.
D
This
was
back
in
may
of
june
of
last
year,
so
it's
been
a
good
year
since
we
developed
imagine
the
wall,
and
I
know
scott
parker
very
well
from
design
works.
Many
of
you
probably
know
scott
as
well.
Scott's
been
around
for
gosh
25
30
years
in
charleston,
and
we
were
talking
one
day
after
the
coronavirus
hit.
We
were
looking
at
a
slowdown
in
work
and
we'd
received
the
ppp
funding,
so
we
could
keep
staff
on
and
we
thought
about.
Well,
here's!
D
You
know
a
major
initiative,
that's
being
proposed
by
the
corps
of
engineers
for
the
town
that
we
live
in.
We
work
in
we
love
and
that
we
thought
we
could
put
sort
of
our
professional
expertise
to
work
to
begin,
maybe
addressing
some
of
the
things
that
we
already
heard
about
with
the
last
two
presentations
and
just
to
give
a
brief
background.
D
Bio
habitats
has
been
around
for
about
35
years
and
while
it
wasn't
called
nature-based
solutions
back
in
the
1980s,
that's
exactly
what
we
started
to
do
as
a
firm
that
employees,
ecologists
and
biologists
and
water
resource
engineers
and
landscape
architects.
We've
not
only
been
designing
these
types
of
projects
for
35
years,
but
we
also
go
out
and
construct
and
install
them,
and
so
we've
got
a
lot
of
really
great
experience
to
bring
to
bear
on
this
type
of
work.
D
Similarly,
for
those
of
you
that
probably
know
design
works
and
scott
parker's
firm,
you
know
he's
well
steeped
in
in
charleston,
he's
been
doing
work
in
charleston
again
for
like
25
years.
He
recently
did
the
colonial
lake
upgrade
he's
been
working
on
the
medical
district
and
they're,
the
planner
urban
designer
and
planner
for
the
low
low
line,
and
so
you
know
scott-
and
I
started
talking
about
this
and
thinking
you
know.
D
We
could
really
really
go
at
this
and
come
up
with
some
ideas,
but
we
also
recognized
we
needed
a
couple
of
other
firms
on
on
this
team,
and
so
we
solicited
both
one
architecture
out
of
new
york
city-
and
I
know
tom
and
jim-
have
worked
worked
with
them
up
there.
They
just
published
a
book
called
building
with
nature,
so
they're
all
about
nature-based
design
as
well
and
atm
consulting
design,
engineering
and
consulting
they're,
a
coastal
engineer,
and
we
thought,
if
we're
going
to
really
be
serious
about
some
of
the
things
that
we
propose.
D
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
good.
Solid
coastal
engineering
on
board
as
well
and
atm
is
also
local
to
charleston
and
they've.
Been
doing
work
here
for
gosh
well
over
30
years,
and
so
we
really
wanted
to
showcase
sort
of
the
the
local
expertise
that
you
have
right
here
in
charleston
and
bring
everybody
together
to
help
come
up
with
some
of
these
solutions.
D
We
also
engaged
curtis.
Cravens
curtis
was
the
resiliency
director
for
the
mayor's
office
in
new
york
city
for
some
time,
and
he
has
a
house
here
on
sullivan
island
and
is
a
frequent
visitor
to
charleston,
and
then
we
even
enlisted
a
local
graphic
designer
john
nettles
to
help
us
out
with
our
logo
and
imagine
the
wall.
So
we
really
again
wanted
to
try
to
make
this
local
and
bring
the
local
expertise
to
bear.
So
just
a
bit
of
context.
I
won't
spend
much
time
on
this
because
we
we
already
know
this.
D
You
know
in
terms
of
the
storm
surge
and
in
terms
of
even
just
from
a
category
2
hurricane,
what's
sort
of
the
worst
case
scenario
in
terms
of
water
coverage,
and
we
know
that
a
good
portion
of
the
peninsula
of
charleston
will
be
covered
in
a
category
two,
not
to
mention
a
category
three
four
or
five
storm.
And
so
yes,
we
all
recognize
that
some
kind
of
storm
surge
protection
around
the
city
is
needed
and
it's
it's
needed
sooner
than
later.
D
I
think
we
also
recognize
that
you
know
beyond
storm
surges,
just
like
we've
experienced
last
night
and
a
couple
of
nights
ago,
these
rain
bombs
and
also
some
of
the
flooding
that
we
had
back
in
2015
and
and
the
king
high
tides
that
we've
got
a
real
water
management
problem
within
the
interior
of
charleston,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
thought
about
quite
a
lot
was
that
we
really
shouldn't
be
separating
the
storm
surge
protection
with
what
we're
doing
in
the
interior
of
charleston
in
terms
of
managing
water
that
we
really
need
to
be
thinking
about.
D
This
is
one
integrated
strategy,
one.
What
we
sort
of
call
one
water
strategy-
and
I
know
allen
ellen-
talked
about
this
as
well,
and
some
of
the
some
of
the
studies
and
work
that
he's
been
looking
at,
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
consider
that
whatever
we
do
in
the
perimeter
has
to
relate
to
the
interior
and
vice
versa,
in
order
to
really
maintain
what
makes
charleston
so
special,
so
sort
of
the
process
that
we
went
through
again.
D
We
did
this
all
pro
bono,
so
we
weren't
being
paid
to
do
any
of
this.
Well,
we
were,
we
did
this
out
of
sort
of
again
the
our
affinity
for
the
city
of
charleston
and
again,
because
we
live
and
work
and
and
recreate
and
breathe
and
have
fun
here,
and
so
we
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
we
could
bring
to
bear
our
professional
expertise
on
this.
D
D
We
took
a
lot
of
photographs
and
looked
at
elevations,
and
we
also
know
that
jared
bramble
also
went
out
and
did
this
kind
of
work
here
as
well,
and
he
has
some
really
good
photo
montages
of
what
the
wall
would
do
from
an
aesthetic
standpoint
and
how
it
would
really
block
the
views
back
out
to
the
water
and
really
disconnect
us
from
the
water
so
again
thinking
about
what
we
need
to
do
from
a
storm
surge
protection
standpoint,
but
also
thinking
about
both
both
nature-based
design
and
sort
of
that
context.
Sensitive
design.
D
We
went
out
on
bikes,
we
did
a
bike
tour
and
all
day
I
say
all
day.
It
was
a
long
day.
It
was
a
probably
eight
to
tw
or
10
to
12
hour
day
of
riding
our
bikes
around
the
perimeter
and
stopping
and
waiting
in
and
going
out
wherever
we
could
to
take
pictures
to
really
study
and
think
about
each
shoreline
along
this
process.
D
And-
and
so
while
we
did
this,
you
know
again
from
an
effort
to
really
understand
the
perimeter
of
charleston,
but
also
understand
how
that
perimeter
connects
to
the
interior
of
charleston
as
well.
D
There's
a
lot
of
precedence
out
there
in
sherwood
engineers
certainly
has
been
working
on
some
of
these
along
with
bio
habitats.
You
know
in
new
york
city
after
super
storm
sandy,
there
is
the
rebuild
by
design
competition
and
a
lot
of
great
ideas
came
out
of
that
competition
and
some
of
them
are
moving
forward.
The
bay
area
san
francisco
bay.
They
had
the
bay
area
challenge,
looking
at
the
exact
same
issues,
storm
water
surge
sea
level,
rise
thinking
about
social
and
environmental
justice
issues
and
again,
there's
some
good
precedents.
There
there's
also
precedence.
D
We
heard
from
the
workshop
that
mark
put
on
and
clemson
put
on
yesterday
from
from
the
cities
up
and
down
the
east
coast,
what
norfolk's
doing
what
what
miami's
doing,
what
other
cities
are
beginning
to
think
about
doing
as
well,
and
so
there
there
are
some
really
good
precedents
on
that.
We
need
to
continue
to
draw
from
and
learn
lessons
that
they've
learned.
We
incorporate
that
into
the
work
that
we're
doing.
D
I
believe
tom
mentioned
this.
You
know
the
corps
of
engineers
has
their
own
initiative.
It's
been
11
years
well
about
10
years
running
now
called
engineering
with
nature.
D
Dr
todd
bridges
started
this
within
the
corps
of
engineers
and
in
fact,
his
very
first
meeting
to
kick
off
this
whole
initiative
happened
about
eight
or
nine
years
ago,
right
here
in
the
city
of
charleston,
and
so
the
city
was
sort
of
ground
zero
for
thinking
about
engineering
with
nature,
and
so
I
really
you
know,
as
tom
mentioned,
I
think
it's
really
incumbent
upon
all
of
us
to
really
help
push
the
core
into
thinking
about
using
their
own
initiative
and
using
their
own
research
to
help
think
about
how
we
can
engineer
with
nature
throughout.
D
So
just
like
what
what
coastal
conservation
league
and
and
tom
and
jim
came
up
with,
we
also
kind
of
sat
back
first
and
said
what
are
core
principles?
What
do
we
really
need
to
be
designing,
for
the
first
was
viewing
water
holistically,
and
that
again,
you
know
goes
to
that
third
principle.
As
a
with
aligned
with
the
dutch
dialogues,
we
really
need
to
be
thinking
about
order
from
a
sea
level
rise
standpoint
from
a
storm
surge
standpoint
from
our
our
king,
high
tides
from
storms
and
storm
water.
D
Even
thinking
about
how
do
we
treat
wastewater?
How
do
we
bring
in
potable
water
what's
happening
to
ground
water?
What
water
is
needed
to
actually
perpetuate
and
supply
habitat
within
within
the
peninsula
and
around
the
peninsula?
So
really
giving
that
holistic
view
to
water?
I
think,
is
critically
important.
The
next
was
that
it
needed
to
be
grounded
in
charleston,
while
those
precedents
are
great.
This
is
charleston
and
charleston's
a
pretty
special
place.
D
Third,
we
put
a
lot
of
of
effort
and
initiative
into
these
dutch
dialogues
and
I
think
a
lot
of
good
has
come
out
of
it
while
we're
not
the
netherlands,
while
we
have
a
different
form
of
government,
while
we
have
a
different
form
of
decision-making
process,
there's
still
a
lot
of
good
takeaways.
D
The
next
one
was
presenting
benefits
and
layers
that
not
just
one
item
should
serve
one
function,
that
it
should
serve.
Multi
functions
and
jim
pointed
this
out
as
well-
that
we're
really
presenting
any
kind
of
solution
or
benefit
in
layers,
and
that
needs
to
be
really
important
and
then
the
last
is
equitable
in
approach.
You
know
we
recognize
that.
Maybe
the
the
course
process
is
not
equitable
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
minute,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
whatever
process
we
go
forward
with
is
equitable
in
approach.
D
I
think
there's
this.
This
whole
notion
that
that
you
know
green
if
we
go
with
with
green
infrastructure
or
these
nature
based
solutions,
we
don't
have
to
do
the
gray
approach
and
that's
that
couldn't
be
further
from
the
truth.
It's
really
what
we
thought
about
is
starting
with
the
green
starting
with
the
living
systems,
approach,
nature-based
approach
and
moving
toward
gray
as
we
need
it,
and
in
some
cases
we
may
need
strictly
gray
infrastructure.
D
We
may
need
the
wall
as
the
wall
and
nothing
else,
and
in
other
cases
we
may
we
may
be
able
to
do
away
with
the
wall
and
use
nothing
but
or
exclusively
green
infrastructure
approaches.
So
we
think
that
that
we
need
to
start
with
green
and
move
toward
gray.
We
also
believe
that
it
needs
to
be
inter
everything
needs
to
be
interconnected.
It
needs
to
be
multifunctional
and
it
needs
to
be
adaptable
over
time
and
then.
Secondly,
it
needs
to
be
context.
D
Sensitive,
we've
heard
a
lot
about
that
already
in
the
last
two
presentations
right
and
that's
all
about
what
makes
charleston
unique,
and
so,
if
it
doesn't
fit
within
the
context,
then
we're
failing
our
job
as
well.
So
some
of
the
ideas
that
we
came
up
with
and
remember
these
are
ideas.
These
are
not.
You
know,
solutions
per
se.
D
Again
we
did
this
within.
You
know
a
month's
worth
of
time,
with
limited
expertise
and
and
really
absolutely
no
community
involvement,
and
so
you
know
what
we
tried
to
do
is
just
present
some
ideas
here
that
others
can
take
and
build
off
of
and
and
incorporate
and
to
really
have
a
robust.
D
This
is
sort
of
the
overall
plan
that
that
again,
we
developed
in
terms
of
looking
at
ideas,
and
I
think,
a
couple
of
important
things
to
point
out
here
one
while
we
did
focus
a
lot
on
the
outer
perimeter,
because
that's
what
the
wall
is
focused
on,
we
also
looked
in
to
the
interior,
and
we
also,
actually,
we
actually
made
some
moves
in
the
interior,
about
showing
more
green
space,
more
ideas
for
this
for
green
infrastructure,
ways
to
daylight
and
restore
some
old
creek
beds
and
marshes
again,
because
scott
and
his
firm
are
working
on
the
low-lying.
D
A
lot
of
the
ideas
that
tom
and
jim
showed.
You
are
the
ideas
that
we
came
up
with
originally
on
this.
The
idea
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
these
later
is
the
horizontal
levee,
which
is
shown
in
the
yellow
there
and
again.
These
can
all
be
mixed
and
matched
or
moved
around
they're,
not
necessarily
just
in
these
areas,
but
as
showing
an
overall
idea.
This
is
this
is
sort
of
what
we
came
up
with
the
idea
of
the
dashed
lines
of
lockwood
and
morrison.
D
We
know
how
important
those
two
roads
are
to
access
the
peninsula,
especially
after
storms
or
or
evacuation
during
storms,
and
you
know
with
lockwood
it's
the
medical
district
with
morrison
it's
getting
in
off
the
ravenel
bridge,
and
so
just
by
raising
those
roads
a
little
bit
and
being
creative
about
what
you
might
do
with
the
the
barrier
in
between
the
jersey
barrier.
D
You
could
obtain
that
12-foot
elevation
just
by
doing
that,
and
so
we
think
that
not
only
would
we
provide
the
storm
surge
protection
there,
but
at
least
one
side
of
the
road
would
be
protected
and
raised
for
access
in
and
out
which,
which
would
provide
a
another
level
of
safety
in
terms
of
any
kind
of
storm
surge
like
that,
but
there's
all
kinds
of
other
ideas
in
terms
of
living:
shorelines,
combined
with
more
structural
techniques,
I'll
talk
about
the
battery
and
the
break
water
out
there,
and
also
even
going
around
to
waterfront
park
in
the
aquarium
and
wharf
area,
there's
so
much
opportunity
to
take
what's
already
there
and
just
enhance
it.
D
A
little
building
in
the
core
engineering
components
of
a
of
a
of
a
barrier
system.
That
really
you
don't
even
you
almost
don't
even
need
a
wall
in
many
of
these
places
that
you
can
actually
integrate
it
into
the
fabric
of
the
city
here.
So
let
me
go
through
and
just
talk
about
some
of
these
a
minute.
So
again,
the
overall
illustrative
plan
of
talking
about
this
idea
of
one
water
and
showing
these
sort
of
greenways
that
actually
pierce
through
the
peninsula
itself
and
integrate
with
the
perimeter
of
charleston.
D
So
the
one
idea
this
horizontal
levee.
This
is
a
we
actually
developed.
This
biohabitats
did
out
in
san
francisco
bay
about
12
years
ago,
15
years
ago
for
a
project
that
we
were
working
on
out
there
and
began
introducing
it
to
the
regulatory
community,
and
this
idea
that
you've
got
this
sort
of
core
trapezoidal
engineered
levee
system
which
which
can
serve
for
that
elevation
12-foot
barrier.
D
D
It
allows
for
habitat
to
creep
up
this
slope
because
of
sea
level
rise,
and
so
we
think
this
serves
as
a
pretty
good
model
tailored
toward
the
east
coast
to
tailor
toward
the
marsh
systems
that
we
have
here
is
a
pretty
good
model
for
many
parts
of
the
peninsula,
as
we
begin
to
think
of
this
stewards,
storm
surge
protection.
D
We
believe
that
if
you
raise
lockwood
or
lockwood
drive
to
that
elevation
and
that
lock
lockwood
drive
became
the
core
levy
and
we
were
able
to
obtain,
say
dot
funding
to
make
that
happen,
that
it's
really
a
matter
of
creating
that
horizontal
levy
out
front
and
it
still
could
be
programmed
and
activated
based
on
a
master
plan
knowing
that
over
time
from
the
top
image
to
the
bottom
image.
Maybe
20
years,
30
years,
50
years
as
sea
level
rise,
begins
to
happen.
That
marsh
begins
to
migrate
upslope.
D
So
we
believe
that
there's
lots
of
opportunities
around
the
peninsula,
especially
the
ashley
river
side,
to
incorporate
this
kind
of
of
horizontal
living.
The
idea
of
living
shorelines
is
also
another
intriguing
idea.
Again.
Much
of
this
may
have
to
be
combined
with
some
kind
of
elevation
structure
because
the
living
shoreline,
while
it
will
dampen
wave
energy-
it's
not
gonna.
You
know
it
won't
substantially
lower
the
height
of
the
storm
surge,
but
there
are
plenty
of
opportunities
around
the
city
of
charleston
to
integrate
living
shorelines
with
a
more
structural
approach.
D
In
doing
this,
and
one
idea
on
the
left,
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
oyster
reef,
work
done
for
living
shorelines
and,
in
fact,
darpa
the
defense,
the
defense,
the
defense
department's
research
are
looking
at
oyster
reefs
as
storm
surge
protection
right
now
for
naval
and
other
military
bases
around
the
gulf
coast,
and
so
we
know
that
even
you
know,
the
department
of
defense
are
beginning
to
look
at
these
kinds
of
nature.
Based
solutions
is
one
way
to
begin
to
mitigate
some
storm
surge.
The.
D
Palm
beach-
and
this
was
you
know
again,
combining
that
that
sort
of
sea
wall
with
this
idea-
this
is
eco,
concrete,
it's
a
concrete
that
actually
is
formulated
in
a
way
that
attracts
marine
organisms
to
attach
to
it
and
provides
all
kinds
of
habitat
through
the
nooks
and
crannies
in
it,
but
provides
sort
of
like
this
art
installation
as
well.
D
You
know
we
have
the
park
and
and
just
by
raising
and
and
scott
parker
has
also
done
some
design
work
on
this
park,
and
we
know
that
just
by
raising
the
promenade
out
in
front
here
that
walkway
and
raising
the
rail
and
maybe
making
the
rail
just
like
alan
talked
about
on
the
battery
part
of
that
overall
structure.
We
could
get
that
12
feet
in
height
right
there.
D
So
we
don't
even
need
a
wall
along
a
lot
of
this,
but
if
we
think
about
the
idea
of
raising
a
promenade,
including
living
a
living
sea
wall
on
the
seaward
side
of
that,
if
we
think
about
oyster
reefs
out
here,
we
think
about
horizontal
levees
and
how
they
may
work
over
time,
all
of
a
sudden
we're
integrating
these
living
systems
with
these
structural
systems
and
we're
also
making
it
adaptive
to
sea
level
rise
as
we
begin
to
move
forward
in
time.
D
D
But
you
know
in
this
case
it's
it's
yeah,
putting
a
wall
back
there,
but
how
can
we
do
it
in
a
context-sensitive
way
as
it
faces
the
city
of
charleston,
and
how
can
we
integrate
in
stormwater
management,
a
way
that
begins
to
connect
it
to
the
exterior
of
charleston?
In
this
case,
back
out
to
the
cooper
river,
so
just
some
quick
sketches
and
ideas
of
turning,
in
this
case,
east
bay
into
morrison.
D
How
can
we
turn
this
into
an
act
of
greenway
active
walkway
as
you're
coming
off
the
ravenel
bridge
and
continuing
that
experience
into
the
heart
of
the
city
of
charleston,
while
still
serving
all
those
other
functions
as
well?
The
battery
we've
already
talked
about
the
battery
and
I
think
allen
did
a
great
job
on
on
talking
about
some
of
the
options.
They
are
certainly
not
that
far
off
from
elevation
12,
especially
with
the
current
work.
D
That's
doing
now,
so
it
wouldn't
take
much
to
raise
that
up
to
meet
that
height
and
still
preserve
the
sort
of
integrity,
the
the
the
urban
streetscape
and
in
urban
areas
within
the
city
of
charleston.
D
This
idea
of
the
breakwater
that's
another
another
idea
that
again
we
came
up
with
a
year
ago
and
one
of
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
is
we
got
atm
the
engine
coastal
engineers
involved
and
they
actually
ran
some
modeling
for
us,
the
same
modeling
that
the
core
typically
runs
for
for
assessing
these
brake
orders.
D
I
know
right
now,
the
city
I
mean
the
core
is
most
likely
taking
this
off
the
table,
but
I
think
that
there's
actually
a
lot
of
of
advantages
to
doing
something
like
this
in
the
long
run
that
again
may
protect
the
battery
even
more
and
protect
part
of
the
city
of
charleston.
So
I
think
it's
worth
considering
jim
or
tom
did
an
excellent
job
of
talking
about
all
the
advantages.
D
So
I
won't
go
over
those.
This
was
known
as
oyster
point
at
one
time,
so
returning
to
that
idea
of
oyster
point
along
with
the
battery
could
be
a
very
intriguing
idea
and
again
we
went
through
some
of
these
analysis.
Engineering
analysis
looking
at
the
breakwater
and
our
rendering,
or
our
thought
here
is
much
like
again.
What
jim
and
tom
talked
about.
This
idea
that
the
core
of
the
break
order,
which
is
that
rock
still
you
see
in
the
middle,
is
built
to
core
standards.
D
It
is
a
engineered
structure,
but
it
can
be
disguised
and
it
can
be
integrated
into
a
whole
living
system
here,
a
living
system
that
provides
not
only
aquatic
habitat
and
biodiversity,
but
also
provides
recreational
opportunities
and
even
even
aesthetic
opportunities
and
nature
based
opportunities
as
well.
Even
the
idea
of
placing
some
dredge
material,
where
you
know
we're
thinking
about
beneficial
use
of
dredge
material.
Where
can
that
be
placed?
D
And
one
idea
here
is
that,
just
like
they're
doing
out
at
crab
bank
out
at
the
mouth
of
shem
creek,
you
could
be
placing
beneficial
or
dredge
material
back
in
this
cove
here
to
build
up
this
area
to
again
create
that
kind
of
intertidal
habitat
and
and
bring
back
oyster
reefs
throughout
here,
which
could
be
really
exciting
and
intriguing.
D
D
We
didn't
again
have
any
community
input
and
there's
no
way
that
we
could
create
an
equitable
plan
for
not
only
these
sections,
these
neighborhoods
that
may
be
disadvantaged
in
some
some
way,
but
certainly
even
for
the
whole
peninsula,
and
we
also
recognize
that
you
know
no
equitable
outcome
is
going
to
come
from
the
cost-benefit
analysis
that
the
corps
does
when
it's
based
on
property
values.
You
know,
unfortunately,
it's
not
you
know
it
it.
D
It
just
isn't,
and
it
won't
work
that
way,
and
we
know
that
we've
got
systemic
issues
that
go
a
long
ways
back
and
neither
would
eis's
which
really
focus
on
minimizing
impact
result
in
an
equitable
approach,
and
so
we
believe
this
really
needs
to
have
further
study
and
further
thought,
and
we
didn't
think
we
were
the
group
to
do
that,
that
we
understand
that
really
the
communities
need
to
be
front
center
in
in
providing
that
kind
of
input,
and
so,
while
we
believe
that
protection
should
be
equitable
throughout
the
whole
peninsula,
including
all
communities,
we
didn't
believe
that
we
had
sort
of
the
the
the
right
to
go
in
and
talk
about
what
type
of
solution
is
appropriate
for
some
of
these
communities.
D
So
that's,
that's
it.
In
a
nutshell.
Imagine
the
wall
is
more
than
a
wall.
It's
sort
of
this
interlocking
connected
system
nature
based
solutions,
interwoven
throughout
the
fabric.
That
is
what
is
really
quintessential
charleston,
but
it
has
all
the
built-in
engineering
that's
required
to
protect
charleston
from
these
storm
surges,
adapting
to
climate
change,
looking
at
sea
levels,
looking
at
managing
stormwater
and
what
we
consider
really
most
important.
Regenerating
life,
so
thank
you.
B
I
really
appreciate
everybody's
time
and
given,
given
that
we
are
right
at
11
o'clock.
You
know
what
I
propose
is
having
q
and
a's
be
answered
via
email
by
the
presenters
in
order
to
free
up
time
and
and
and
so
that's
number
one
and
number
two
just
wanted
to
go
through
kel.
B
If
you
wouldn't
mind
just
giving
a
quick
update
on
just
procedure
for
our
next
meeting,
I
think
that'd
be
hugely
helpful
time
and
place
and
all
that
it'll
be
a
slight
deviation
of
what
a
slight
big
deviation
of
what
we've
done
so
far,
but
an
exciting
one.
A
Sure,
briefly,
we
are
proposing
and
we
have
a
room
held
for
our
next
meeting.
In
two
weeks,
the
30th
at
9
30
it'll,
be
in
the
public
meeting
room
at
2
george
street,
which
is
the
gilliard
center,
and
I
think,
for
that
meeting
mark
has
some
maps
that
have
been
printed
out
by
our
gis
department,
we'll
be
able
to
go
over
some
robust
conversations
within
the
committee.
Members
of
you
know
the
presentations
we've
had
over
the
past
month
and
start
to
work
towards
some
recommendations
coming
up
on
some
of
the
city's
deadlines.
A
So
that's
the
proposal.
We
hope
folks
will
be
able
to
save
that
time
and
as
hey
good
put
into
the
chat
earlier.
Obviously,
we
have
a
lot
of
conversations
and
good
presentations,
so
we're
looking
to
extend
our
meetings
here
to
90
minutes,
so
we
will
propose
that
the
in-person
meeting
will
be
june.
30Th
9
30
to
11
a.m.
In
the
public
meeting
space
at
two
george
street
I'll
send
all
that
information
out,
probably
later
this
afternoon
or
tomorrow
morning,
along
with
the
presentations
from
today
and
the
meeting
minutes.
B
Great,
thank
you
all
very
much,
a
ton
of
great
information
and
a
lot
to
think
about
and
incorporate
a
bunch
of
different.
I
mean
alternatives,
so
certainly
appreciate
everybody
attending
time.
Of
course,
all
the
presenters
time.
Thank
you
all
very
much
very
enlightening,
and
you
know
I
think
it'll
be
a
great
great
contribution
to
the
to
the
overall
effort.
So
thank
you
again.
B
With
that
said,
we'll
go
ahead
and
adjourn.
I
appreciate
everybody's
time
and
please
be
on
the
lookout
for
a
few
emails
number
one
regarding
the
phrasing
on
the
recommendation
for
the
water
plan
and
and
number
two
with
regards
to
the
subcommittees.
Getting
those
first
meetings
set
up
so
anyway,
thanks
again
and
and
y'all
have
a
great
rest.
Your
week
great
day.