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City of Charleston Army Corps 3x3 Advisory Committee Meeting 12/14/22
A
A
You
know
just
procedural
items
on
2023
committee
membership,
given
that
we're
approaching
the
end
of
our
initial
two-year
term
additional
discussion
regarding
meeting
calendar
and
just
general
topics
for
our
upcoming
meetings
and
then
finally,
just
going
through
the
ordinance
to
help
guide
everybody
in
that
discussion
and
consideration
of
future
meeting
topics
before
we
get
started.
Are
there
any
questions
or
comments.
B
Good
morning
everyone
hope
you're
all
doing
well.
It's
almost
the
end
of
2022.
isn't
that
nuts,
so
it's
like
it
was
just
2020,
so
it'll
be
2024
before
we
know
it.
So
I
hope
you
all
enjoy
the
the
one
follow
days
and
thanks
for
all
joining
as
a
good
mentioned,
I'm
going
to
share
some
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
here
in
a
second
and
just
work
through
some
items
here
let
me
find
the
screen
share
thing
and,
of
course,
the
PowerPoint
I'm
looking
for
I
don't
see
popping
there.
C
B
B
Through
through
some
things,
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
National
Academy
national
academies.
Stuff
we've
been
doing
because
it
is
pretty
helpful
and
update
you
on
things.
That's
happened
since
our
last
call
Caden
and
I.
You
know
we
do
a
number
of
different
presentations
to
various
neighborhood
groups
and
other
stakeholders
across
the
city,
and
you
know
Caitlin
said
it
is
important
to
remind
people
every
now
and
then
about
where
we
are
with
this
Army
Corps
project.
B
B
That
is
a
process
that
the
Army
Corps
must
follow.
For
these
things,
our
process
was
actually
3.8
million
dollars
and
almost
four
levels
or
four
years
of
effort,
simply
because,
after
the
tenant
respected
plan
that
was
released
in
April
of
2020,
a
lot
of
public
comments
came
in
and
said:
please
do
an
environmental
impact
statement
and
that
was
done
and
it's
completed
so
that
took
a
little
bit
of
time.
So
it's
great
comments
came
in.
B
We
revised
the
plan
or
the
Army
Corps
revised
to
plan
the
tenant
just
set
the
plan
and
made
it
an
optimized
plan
that
was
released
in
September
of
2021
right
as
I
started.
In
this
position
there
was
still
some
concerns,
and
so
the
Army
Corps
went
back
to
the
to
the
drawing
board
on
this
and
redrew
the
line
of
protection
on
the
Eastern
side
to
include
the
Port
Properties.
We
went
through
a
number
of
internal
processes
with
the
Army
Corps
in
the
beginning
of
2022.
B
B
The
scientific
report
was
sent
to
Congress
in
the
summer
and
it
was
included
in
the
drafts
of
the
Water
Resources
development
Act.
So
that's
great.
That
is
being
considered
as
we
speak.
Just
a
reminder:
here's
the
standard
slide
that
you've
all
seen
an
eight
mile
surge
structure
at
12,
foot,
Nev
88,
so
not
12
feet
above
ground,
but
12
foot,
nav
dd8,
so
the
lowest
parts
of
the
peninsula
are
about
three
and
a
half
feet.
B
Navid
88,
so
the
highest
top
of
this
structure
would
be
about
eight
and
a
half
feet
above
ground
level.
Still
substantial,
but
it's
not
12.,
no
public
property
was
it
will
be
taken.
If
we
move
forward
with
this,
this
is
no
private
properties
are.
This
is
all
the
line
of
protection
is
all
on
public
property.
B
B
B
B
It
provides
tight
risk
management,
some
surgery
management,
it's
a
walkway,
it's
tourist
attraction.
Could
we
replicate
that
around
the
peninsula
in
most
places,
that's
the
design
goal
and
we
think
that's
possible
if
you
get
into
the
design,
if
you
get
into
the
design
phase
and
if
we
could
design
a
structure
that
met
all
the
city's
needs,
historic,
cultural,
all,
those
other
things
that
are
there
multi-benefit
effective,
you
know
surge
risk
and
title
risk
mitigation
and
we
get
the
feds
to
pay
65
percent
of
the
cost.
That
would
be
something
good
to
do.
B
So
again
we
have
our
word:
authorization,
water,
research,
development,
development,
act,
authorization
in
the
word
of
ill
internal
politics
or
internal
processes.
Here
in
Congress
is
the
word
of
bill
was
attached
to
the
National
Defense
authorization
bill.
That
is
a
must-pass
piece
of
legislation
that
Congress
considers
every
year.
B
Congress
passed
the
NDA,
the
National
Defense
authorization
act
last
week,
350
to
80
some
350
in
favor,
80
percent
80
members
of
Congress
opposed,
so
it
passed
the
house
with
an
overwhelming
majority.
The
Senate
is
going
to
consider
it
this
week
and
if,
when
it
does,
our
our
authorization
and
the
word
of
bill
to
move
forward
at
the
federal
level
will
be
approved
and
once
that
occurs,
keep
in
mind
here,
then
the
Army
Corps
will
have
to
work
from
internal
processes.
B
They
will
formally
approach
the
city
to
negotiate
a
design
agreement
before
you
can
start
ped.
As
you
all
know,
we
are
able,
as
the
non-federal
sponsor,
to
highlight
some
things
we
want
to
pursue
in
the
in
the
design
in
the
in
design
we've
already
signaled
to
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers,
which
has
been
reviewed
by
division
in
Atlanta
and
headquarters
in
Washington.
Some
of
these
items.
The
mayor
sent
a
letter,
the
column
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
screen.
If
you
all
can
see
it.
F
B
B
Once
the
design
agreement
is
negotiated,
we
will
present
it
to
CD
Council
CD
Council
to
consider
it,
as
you
know,
as
is
correct
their
their
processes,
and
we
would
ask
at
that
point
for
the
city
council
to
fund
the
first
year
of
the
true
ped
phase,
and
you
know
that
or
the
first
year
or
second
year
of
fed
phase
to
go
forward
and
keep
in
mind.
That
request
would
come
to
city
council
every
year
as
we
move
through
the
design
phase.
B
So
we
will
fund
this
as
we
go,
and
if
we
were
unhappy
with
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
in
this
process,
we
will
just
not
provide
our
money
to
the
art,
to
the
Army
Corps
for
the
next
phase
of
pet
and
that's
how
we
manage
the
process
right.
They
cannot
go
forward
without
us,
so
keep
in
mind
one
other
anomaly
with
the
federal
process
is
process.
B
You
all
recall
that
the
csrm
this
project
is
a
surge
only
project.
It
will
have
title
mitigation
benefits
to
us,
but
it
is
a
surge
only
project
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
has
authorized
and
again
in
in
discussions
with
them.
We
have
requested
funding
or
they
have
requested
funding
for
funding
for
them
to
do
a
title,
an
inland
study,
so
title
management
and
storm
water
management
across
the
city,
so
not
just
the
peninsula.
B
This
is
an
authorization
that
exists
since
2018
and
Senator
Graham
has
requested
funding
for
the
Army
Corps
Engineers
to
meet
their
cost
share
on
this
process.
The
city
is
considering
how
to
manage
that
and
work
work
with
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers.
We
want
to
avoid
overlaps
with
the
water
plane.
We
have
under
development,
so
this
is
something
that
is
fluid
and
but
we're
working
on
it,
and
this
would
allow
in
some
ways
a
way
to
address
the
legitimate
criticisms
like.
B
Why
is
the
Army
Corps
of
Vegeta
is
only
considering
surge
when
we
have
other
things
too,
and
that
is
just
a
function
of
Army
Corps
processes,
and
this
is
the
way
you
get
around
that
to
allow
them
in
a
separate
work
process
to
allow
them
to
consider
title
and
storm
water
management.
And
again
this
would
not
be
Peninsula
only
as
the
Cs
SRM
is.
It
would
be
Citywide.
B
So
we
all
call
hurricane
Ian
at
the
end
of
September,
the
Army
Corps,
the
U.S
Navy
and
others
use
the
ad
Circ
model
to
estimate
storm
surge
impacts
or
storm
surge
extent,
and
so
you
recalls
Ian
made
landfall
just
north
and
east
of
Charleston
about
2
p.m.
On
Friday
September,
30th,
September
28th,
through
September
29th,
we
were
in
the
we
were
in
the
zone
of
danger,
and
this
is
the
graphical
output
of
the
image
from
the
ad
Circ
run
on
the
morning
of
September
29th.
B
It
was
designed
to
be
at
10
foot
or
was
estimated
to
be
a
ten
foot.
Seven
mean
low
low
water,
storm
surge,
so
that
would
have
been
the
highest
storm
surge.
Second
High
storm
surge
ever
the
highest
storm
surge
since
Hurricane
Hugo,
and
this
graphic
shows
you
what
it
would
have
looked
like
had
it
occurred.
B
So
this
is
sort
of
what
they
call
a
do-nothing
scenario.
If
we
would
do
nothing
to
manage
storm
surge
and
we
continue
to
get
hurricanes
across
the
city
and
keep
in
mind.
Ian
was
a
pretty
weak
storm
by
the
time
it
crossed
Florida
and
brought
into
the
Atlantic.
This
is
still
what
we
would
have
to
deal
with.
B
B
That's
a
risk
right
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we
should
take
that
risk
anyway.
So
just
want
to
remind
everyone
where
we
are
on
a
separate
but
related
issue.
The
the
U.S
Army
Corps
Engineers.
One
of
the
challenges
with
their
processes
is
that
they
follow
right
now
something
called
the
principles
and
guidelines
from
1983
the
principles
and
guidelines.
If
you
recall
President
Reagan,
he
was
saying
we
need
government
to
function
more
like
business
benefit.
Cost
analysis
is
an
economic
process
became.
B
So
they
try
to
achieve
with
Federal
projects
the
highest
benefit
for
the
lowest
cost
and
they
use
structure,
damage,
structure,
contents
and
damage
for
those
contents
and
business
Interruption
to
determine
what
kind
of
Damages
they're
trying
to
mitigate-
and
this
is
called
the
NAD,
the
national
academic
development
model,
and
that
is
what
governed
our
process.
That
is,
what
still
governs
all
Army
Corps
processes,
a
lot
of
people
realize
in
the
90s
and
2000s
that
this
was
sort
of
insufficient.
What
the
federal
government
should
be
doing.
B
So
the
Army
Corps
has
been
trying
to
update
and
change
its
policies.
It's
internal
policies
to
allow
something
different
to
consider
more
than
just
lowest
benefit
or
highest
benefit,
lowest
cost,
and
in
2014,
the
Army
Corps
released
or
the
Council
on
Environmental
Quality
in
the
White
House
released
proposed
changes
to
the
principles
and
guidelines
from
1983
and
they
called
those
to
principles,
requirements
of
guidelines
of
2014..
This
is
Army
Corps,
jargon,
I'm,
sorry,
but
I
just
want
to
explain
how
this
works.
B
Those
principles,
requirements
and
guidelines
are
substantial,
Improvement
to
what
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
can
look
at
and
when
they
look
at
feasibility
and
and
alternatives
to
screen.
When
there's
what
would
be
the
best
project
and
the
prng
sets
forth
six
co-equal
guiding
principles
and
overarching
Concepts
here
to
be
considered,
so
it's
not
just
highest
benefit
lowest
cost.
It's
these
things
are,
on
the
left
hand,
side
healthy
and
resilient
ecosystems,
sustainable,
Economic,
Development,
Public,
Safety,
Watershed
approach
to
decision
making
environmental
justice.
B
If
these,
if
the
pr
and
G
would
be
adopted
by
the
Army
Corps
Engineers,
now
you
have
a
much
more
robe
robust
set
of
things.
You
can
look
at
look
at
as
an
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
process,
a
member
of
Congress
or
a
number
of
members
of
Congress
in
2016,
put
a
rider
on
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers,
prohibiting
them
from
considering
the
prng.
B
It's
awful
in
2020
that
rider
was
not
extended
and
in
2021
and
under
the
current
Administration
they
have
made
a
commitment
to
try
to
work
through
and
implement
the
prng
in
May
of
this
year,
the
national
economies
of
science.
How
to
workshop
and
I
participated
in
that
on
behalf
of
the
city,
to
try
to
push
this
forward.
B
We
had
another
Workshop
in
on
November
30th
in
Washington
DC,
with
the
senior
leadership
of
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
to
try
to
implement
or
get
the
federal
government
to
implement
the
prng
very
positive
workshop
at
the
end
of
November
I
presented
the
Charleston
case
that
we
needed
better
than
just
Ned
right.
We
we
needed
better.
We
needed
to
have
the
flexibility
to
pursue
more.
B
So
this
is
this
is
sort
of
peripheral
to
our
project,
but
it
is
essential,
as
we
work
through
the
csrm
here
and,
as
you
all
have
heard,
the
Army
Corps
is
bound
in
by
federal
policy
and
we
need
them
to
be
more
expansive
and
more
creative
and
they
want
to
be,
and
they
can
be
if
they
would
have
this
prng
as
their
modus
operandi
going
forward
or
what
their
process
going
forward.
We're
hopeful
that
this
will
occur.
B
It
will
rulemaking
often
takes
about
a
year
because
the
Federal
they
will
issue
a
draft
rule.
The
draft
rule
can
be
commented
upon
by
anyone,
so
there
will
be
people
in
support
of
this,
and
people
will
be
opposed
to
this
and
people
saying.
Well,
maybe
you
want
to
nudge
it
this
way
or
that
way
that
is
rulemaking
as
it
occurs
at
the
federal
level.
B
B
If
we
could
get
this
prng
adopted
by
late,
2023
or
2024,
not
we
but
collectively
the
U.S.
It
would
be
a
substantial
Improvement.
This
is
really
exciting
stuff
and
you
know
the
City
of
Charleston
and
we're
trying
to
position
ourselves
to
be
leaders
in
this.
We
obviously
at
this
conference
in
in
the
end
of
November
I,
asked
I,
asked
the
people
somewhere
in
the
room.
Let's
make
Charleston
a
pilot
to
do
this
stuff
to
do
this
right
so
we'll
see
if
they
take
us
up
on
that.
B
A
B
As
I
as
we've
noted
before,
we
think
we
have
the
flexibility
within
the
current
PNG,
so
their
current
policy.
We
think
we
have
the
flexibility
to
do
all
the
things
we
need
to
do
right
to
make
this
a
much
better
structure
for
the
City
of
Charleston
work
off
of
that.
But
we
need
to
negotiate
this
right.
That's
the
design
agreement
negotiation.
B
B
B
B
If
we
would
have
the
prng,
we
could
consider
these
other
things,
and
that
would
be
the
project
feature
and
we
would
cost
share
those
things
65.35
right,
it's
environmental
justice.
This
is
the
the
Rosemont
and
the
and
the
Bridge
View
Apartments
areas
up
in
the
northern
part
of
the
in
the
upper
peninsula.
B
You
know
sustainable
development.
We
can
work
on
these
things
if
we
had
the
prng,
but
if
the
prng
ghost
into
draft
rulemaking,
we
can
point
to
this
during
ped
and
say:
look
this!
You
know
you
have
the
PNG
and
we
have
the
flexibility
to
do
this
under
the
PNG.
However,
we're
going
to
point
to
prng
and
say
we
want
to.
We
want
to
show
you
how
to
do
this,
so
you
can
all
see
how
this
is
good.
This
is
what
I
mean
make
Charleston
a
pilot
for
this.
B
So
again,
it's
it's
pretty
important
and
again
that
title
and
Inland
study
I
mentioned
that
Congress
is
trying
to
fund
for
us
Citywide.
We
could
use
the
prng
for
that,
because
that
study
that
work-
probably
wouldn't
start
in
it
probably
would
start
until
the
end
of
2023
or
2024.
So
if
this
is
adopted,
then
then
we
can-
and
this
ideas
of
you
know
healthy
and
resorting
ecosystems
in
West,
Ashley
or
on
cable
or
on
James,
Island
or
John's
Island,
and
you
know
avoiding
gun
wage
gun
waves
used
to
floodplains.
B
B
Exciting,
it's
all
Insider
politics
with
all
these
acronyms
from
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers,
but
we're
on
it
we're
trying
to
nudge
the
Army
Corps
and
again
it's
not
just
the
City
of
Charleston.
It's
a
lot
of
other
cities,
plus
the
national
academies
of
science,
plus
a
lot
of
engineering
companies
who
want
this
flexibility.
So
a
lot
of
people
are
pushing
here.
It
feels
really
good
again.
I've
been
monitoring
this
since
2014
2013.
B
B
We
have
worked
with
the
Realtors,
the
Chamber
of
Commerce,
the
home
builders,
the
coastal
conservation,
League,
the
southern
environmental
law
Center
and
the
historic
Charleston
Foundation
to
come
up
with
a
consensus
recommendation
to
city
council
to
to
ban
slab
on
grade
in
the
Hundred
Year
floodplain,
so
for
any
new
residential
construction
bands
lab
on
grade.
This
is
a
way
if
you
put
band
slab
on
grade.
That
means
the
houses
have
to
be
built
on
PRN
beam
or
what's
called
stem
wall,
and
if
you
do
that,
you
don't
need
fill
on
that
parcel.
B
There
were
a
lot
of
good
questions
again.
We
made
a
number
of
recommendations
to
this
and
we
intend
to
present
city
council
with
draft
ordinance
language
in
early
2023
to
implement
this,
and
then
it
would
follow
the
implementation
processes
that
this,
the
city's
stormwater
design
standards
manual
Fallout
in
2020.
B
You
know
area
around
the
margins,
that's
the
100
Year
floodplain
on
the
peninsula,
and
you
can
see
over
in
West
Ashley.
You
know
where
the
100
Year
floodplain
is
and
what
we're
going
to
be
doing,
and
this
extends
across
the
city
up
into
Berkeley
County
parts
of
the
city.
We
would
essentially
eliminate
fill
in
these
areas
by
using
the
slab
on
grade
issue
for
residential.
G
B
Is
pretty
exciting
stuff,
and
this
is
a
way
we
get
at
some
of
our
larger
flood
risk
management
efforts.
So,
let's
see
what's
going
on
here,
let's
see
how
successful
we
are
with
Council.
We
think
this.
We
sensed
a
solid
majority
for
this
still
some
things
to
tailor
in
the
draft
ordinance
language
so
we'll
work
on
that,
but
it's
exciting
stuff
just
want
to.
Let
you
all
know
we
mentioned.
Over
the
summer
I've
been
through
the
early
fall.
We
had
the
resilience
office
with
the
help
of
other
City
departments.
B
B
B
Well,
you
can
see
why
strategies
we
improved
it.
We
have
better
science
in
it.
We've
brought
more
of
the
project
stuff
that
we've
been
doing
the
projects
we've
been
doing.
The
governance
changes,
the
policy
changes
the
Partnerships,
all
those
things
part
of
the
strategy.
We
clarify
more
what
the
city
is
doing
in
this
document.
It
will
be
online
in
a
story
storyboard
only
format.
B
So
you
can
see
what
the
city
is
doing
and
our
goal
would
be
to
maintain
this
as
we
go
not
to
update
the
strategy
every
four
or
five
years,
because
as
soon
as
you
publish
a
strategy-
and
you
think
it's
we're
going
to
update
it
in
four
years-
it's
already
out
of
date.
So
we
want
to
update
this
on
the
go.
It's
a
different
approach
to
this.
The
mayor
has
seen
it.
B
Some
members
of
council
have
seen
it
and
it's
received
favorable
reviews
so
far,
so
we
feel
pretty
good
about
this
and
then
my
final
item,
two
final
items
here
again,
the
water
plan
is
moving
forward.
They've
done
a
lot
of
reconnaissance
and
research
they're
starting
to
get
some
ideas
of
of
you
know
of
ideas
for
strategies
across
the
various
City
neighborhoods.
B
We
anticipate
some
some
workshops
with
stakeholders
in
march
across
the
city,
so
that'll
be
two
or
three
weeks
of
sort
of
very
heavy
work
again
across
the
city,
not
just
here
at
City,
Hall,
the
in
West
Ashley
and
John's
Island
and
James,
island
and
Daniel
Island,
and
on
Kang
Hoy.
So
that's
great
again:
they're
making
they're
making
good
progress
just
want
to
you
all
supported
that,
and
so
you
ought
to
know
about
that.
B
We'll
update
you
as
we
go
along
and
then
finally,
you
all
recall
the
Rosemont
resilience
issue,
the
city
committed
to
funding
a
resilience
plan
for
for
community
of
Rosemont
and
Bridgeview
Apartments
up
on
the
other
side
of
the
Upper
Peninsula,
simply
because
they
were
concerned
about
the
non-structural
solutions
that
were
recommended
for
them
with
the
Army
Corps
project.
So
this
committee
recommended
hey,
find
a
resilience
plan
for
them.
City
council
approve
that
at
the
same
time,
the
Low
Country
Alliance
for
model
communities,
which
is
an
environmental
justice
and
social
justice
organization.
B
B
This
resilience,
man
project
with
the
community,
it's
very
exciting
and
we're
just
happy
to
have
good
partners
here
and
the
goal
with
or
the
outputs
of
the
resilience
plan
will
really
help
the
community
develop
strategies
for
current
and
future
flood
risk
mitigation,
not
just
for
storm
surge,
but
for
all
the
above
and
also
deal
with
some
other
environmental
conditions.
They
have
up
there.
Polluted
soils,
Mobility
access
and
things
like
that-
and
you
know
again
it
also
become
a
set
of
recommendations
to
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers.
B
If
and
when
we
get
into
ped
for
what
we
would
want
to
do
with
them.
So
it's
very
important
project.
So
that's
a
lot
of
information
I
just
gave
to
you,
but
we're
not
sitting
on
we're
not
sitting
still
here
we
keep
moving
forward
so
happy
to
answer
any
questions
for
you
all
about
this
and
I'm
going
to
stop
sharing
my
screen.
B
A
B
The
committee
has
said
a
lot
of
those
bullets
listed
on
the
on
the
one
slide.
I
showed
those
are
a
summary,
those
those
are
keywords
for
your
recommendations.
They
are
already
they've,
already
been
communicated
and
I.
What
I
would
say
is
this
is
when
we
get
or
my
commitment
to
you
always
when
we
start
negotiating
the
design
agreement,
we
can
focus
our
one
of
our
meetings
or
part
of
one
of
our
meetings
in
the
future,
whatever
in
early
2023
or
mid-2023.
B
Again,
when
that
negotiation
starts
to
occur
with
what
goes
into
the
design,
we
will
raise
this
issue,
allow
you
all
to
plummet,
money
and
provide
ideas
or
suggestions.
I
think
we
have
everything
in
the
design
of.
In
that
letter,
we've
already
sent
I
think
we
have
all
of
the
issues
you
the
committee
has
already
communicated,
but
we're
happy
to
this
has
to
be
transparent
and
open,
and
we
will.
My
word
is
that
it
will
be.
A
F
Yeah
Dale
I
know
for
this
committee,
we're
you
know
heavily
talking
about
the
storm
surge,
but
I
know
there's
so
many
projects
related
to
to
Tidal
and
storm
water
management
within
the
peninsula
and
is
is
that
is
the
update
that
that
slide
that
you
just
said
on
the
sea
level
rise
strategy
update?
Is
it?
Does
it
summarize
kind
of
all
the
projects
like
the
the
storm
water
and
title
projects
and
pump
system
like
Fishburn
tunnel
and
some
of
the
others
like
that?
So
we
have
a
because
it's
really
a
combination
of
both.
F
B
B
B
Good,
so
here
is
the
the
flooding
and
civil
rights
strategy.
Again,
if
you
click
through
these
things
you
so
this
is
the
introduction
right.
So
there's
a
bunch
of
new
science.
That's
put
that
we,
you
know
our
intern
work
with
NOAA
and
NASA
and
all
those
other
things,
and
then
we
have
the
city
already
had
a
bunch
of
existing
information
that
was
in
bits
and
pieces
across
the
city
websites,
and
we
knitted
this
to
Greta
together.
So
this
is
great
and
again
there
you
can
navigate
the
site
pretty
easily.
B
But
if
you
come
to
the
this
is
the
infrastructure
section.
Rick
is
we're
waiting
for
the
storm
water
department
to
approve
all
the
language
that
we
drafted
for
them
and
we
actually
used
a
lot
of
the
information
we
just
updated
it.
So
here
you
get
a
sense
of
working
through.
You
can
see
me
moving
through
this
thing.
Here's
your
update
on
the
spring
Fishburn,
here's
the
current
status!
B
What's
going
to
happen
what's
happening,
you
know
with
how
this
thing
works:
the
Medical
District,
the
Earhart
drop
shaft
tunnel,
the
low
battery
restoration
project
over
in
West
Ashley,
Forest
Acres.
Here's
a
suburban
area,
that's
getting
some!
You
know
the
stormwater
department
is
doing
great
work
over
there
trying
to
help
this
area
move
forward,
and
it
gives
you
a
sense
of
what's
going
to
happen
and
then
again,
King
and
Eugene
up
on
the
upper
part
of
the
peninsula.
This
area,
floods,
all
the
time
and
the
city's
been
doing
work
up
there.
B
F
B
So
again
we
have
a
land
use
tab.
We
have
an
infrastructure
tab,
we
have
a
governance
tab.
This
is
the
governance
stuff.
Is
you
know
the
the
Land
and
Water
Analysis
and
the
comp
plan,
which
is
very
important
for
the
city
to
go
forward?
We
have
a
resources
tab.
So
where
are
we
getting
money?
And
you
know
who
can
we
rely
upon
to
help
us?
And
then
we
have
this
Partnerships,
an
Outreach
section
and
the
Partnerships
and
Outreach
section
is
going
to
be
really
hard
for
us
to
keep
up
to
date.
B
Kevin's
on
the
Kevin
here
from
the
aquarium
is,
is
on
the
committee.
The
the
aquarium
is
doing
a
lot
of
really
important
work.
That
is
a
cumulative
to
what
the
city
is
doing.
It's
really
helping
us
and
we
want
to
recognize
all
these
Partnerships
we're
in
Pilots
with
some
national
organizations.
We
want
to
reference
that,
but
there's
a
lot
of
that
stuff,
so
we're
going
to
have
to
work
on
trying
to
keep
that
up
to
date.
B
You
know
and
I
think
this
is
also
a
spot.
If,
if
Dan
and
others,
you
want
to
talk
about
what
the
what's
happening
over
in
Union
Pier,
if
we
want
to
incorporate
that
and
Dan
and
the
developers
there
and
the
port
wants
us
to
do
that,
we
can
add
this
in
here,
because
this
is.
This
is
designed
to
be
our
strategy,
but
also
to
be
our
communication
strategy
right.
B
B
G
Yeah,
thank
you
so
Dale
real
interested
to
hear
about
the
effort
to
get
the
core
more
updated,
set
of
guiding
principles.
I
think
that's
absolutely
critical.
I
mean
it's
one
of
the
criticisms
that
we
hear
all
the
time,
and
so
you
know
really
excited
to
hear
that
I
wonder
if
there's
any
opportunity
for
for
public
engagement
or
advocacy
to
support
that
effort,
but
assume
our
legislative
delegation
is
pretty
supportive
of
that
effort.
So
can
we,
you
know,
send
them
letters
phone
calls
emails
whatever.
G
It
is
in
support
of
that
position
that
you
know
the
Charleston
Community
as
a
whole
like
to
see
these
these
guidelines
updated
and
or
support
of
that
effort.
I
think
those
kinds
of
you
know,
like
you
know,
in
the
digital
advocacy
world
they're
called
a
thank
message
instead
of
a
spank
message,
so
to
speak,
and
so
when
you
can
thank
your
elected
leaders
for
doing
what
you
want
them
to
I,
think
it's
an
important.
You
know
an
important
opportunity
to
take.
If
we
can
do
that,
you
know.
B
Think
the
time
is
so,
let
me
be
clear:
we've
already
communicated
to
the
Congressional
Delegation
as
a
city
that
we
want
this
flexibility.
We
need
this
flexibility.
We
also
in
fact
know
that
a
lot
of
the
the
staff
inside
the
Corps
of
Engineers
would
like
to
have
this
flexibility,
but
they
don't
and
because
they're
a
military
organization
they
they
don't
advocate
for
this.
They
they
did
follow
the
rules
that
they
have
right,
that's
their
process.
We
need
to
be
respect
for
that,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
them.
B
My
personal
opinion
is
a
lot
of
them.
Want
this
new
flexibility
so
great
when
the
draft
proposed
rule
comes
out,
Caitlin
and
I
will
will
make
a
note
to
inform
you
all
and
I
think
okay
at
that
point,
if
you
deem
it
appropriate,
collectively
or
individually,
to
Advocate
to
our
Congressional
Delegation
and
submit
comments,
I
mean
you
all,
as
collectively
or
individually
can
submit
comments
in
to
the
rulemaking.
B
B
A
A
C
Be
real,
quick
I
want
to
follow
what
Andrew
said
and
and
just
indicate
that
I
think
that
our
group
here
this
advisory
committee
needs
to
shore
up
its
voice
and
in
conjunction
with
public
engagement.
I
would
like
to
at
some
point
when
there's
time
talk
about
enhanced
communication
from
this
group,
because
it's
sort
of
not
happening
and
I
think
it
really
should,
especially
since
the
activities
of
both
the
feds
and
the
local
government
are
upcoming
and
I.
C
Think
that
part
of
our
our
directives
from
the
ordinance
are
to
communicate
better
with
the
public
about
it
and
so
I
think
I
as
Communications
person
needs
some
Direction
and
I
think
we
should
sort
of
brainstorm
on
how
we
can
do
a
better
job
with
this,
but
I
think
we
should
indeed
do
a
resolution
or
something
in
support
of
what
Dale
was
talking
about.
I
think
that
would
be
critical.
Thank
you.
A
A
Well,
good,
we'll
we're
right
right
on
time.
Ellen
would
you
mind?
I
can
share
it,
but
we
just
wanted
to
pull
up
the
ordinance
to
go
through
two
aspects
of
it,
one
of
which
was
the
composition
and
procedural
points
with
regards
to
you
know
we're
we're
reaching
the
end
of
our
initial
two-year
term,
and
so
membership
is
14.
Members
of
this
committee,
all
appointed
by
the
mayor
from
different
communities
and
representing
different
groups,
and
each
of
those
members
has
an
initial
two-year
term.
A
A
C
A
Great,
thank
you.
So
this
is
yeah
the
bulk
of
it
I
think
the
the
purpose
section
is
what
you're
looking
at
on
the
screen
purpose
of
the
committee.
So
we
had
a
lot
of
upgrade
points
that
were
brought
up
with,
with
most
recent
requested
for
meeting
topics
for
this
upcoming
first
quarter
and
ongoing.
After
that,
a
lot
of
them
had
to
do
with
other
City
of
Charleston
projects.
I
mean
very
relevant.
A
They
tie
in
very
well
and
the
city's
done
a
lot
to
to
tie
together
all
the
different
projects
going
right
now,
as
we
saw
in
Dale's
presentation
earlier.
So
with
that
in
mind,
I
want
to
make
sure
we
went
through
the
ordinance
here
in
order
to
help
spur
additional
thoughts
on
upcoming
meeting
topics,
and
so
you
know,
I
won't,
read
and
word
for
word,
but
just
going
through
those,
you
know
basically
reviewing
reviewing
the
study,
as
we've
all
done
in
an
early
stage
providing
recommendations
to
the
council.
A
Regarding
the
study's
recommendations,
you
know
which
we've
done
you
know
recommend
strategies
for
City
participation
in
pad
phases,
as
designed
by
you
know,
mayor
and
city
council
yeah.
Thirdly,
you
know
researching
other
cities
that
have
funded
similar
infrastructure
projects.
You
know
most
recent
example
that
being
Norfolk
and
there's
Dale
and
kale
and
I
were
talking
about
other
similar
projects
over
the
last
week.
So
that
is
a
meeting
topic.
A
I
think
merits
bring
back
up
again
to
go
through
these
additional
cities,
and
you
know
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we,
these
are
very
smart,
sharp
experienced,
high-level
people
that
you
know
we're
leveraging,
Dale
and
Kaylin's
relationships
for
so
making
sure
that
that
we
really
focus
heavily
on
on
those
presentations.
As
you
know,
as
we
approach
as
we
approach
the
PED
phase
becoming,
you
know
much
much
more
real,
maybe
the
the
word
for
it.
A
Next,
focusing
on
Charleston
Peninsula
protection
of
life
and
property
there
on
and
how
the
study
of
Charleston
Peninsula
meets
those
objectives.
You
know
one
topic,
and
this
this
goes
to
another
Point
later
as
well.
One
topic
that
I've
been
thinking
about
is
is
insurance
and
risk
mitigation
and
how
how
the
city
as
well
as
third
parties
in
the
private
sector
would
be,
would
be
looking
at
this
project,
the
three
by
three
project,
the
seawall
project,
so
I
think
you
know
different
aspects
of
that.
A
You
know
next,
you
know
looking
in
in
other
cities,
to
help
inform
State
Charleston's
next
steps,
I
think
procedurally
as
well.
Next
report
on
impacts
other
areas
of
city
as
a
result
of
the
storm
surge
barrier.
You
know
I,
think
Dale
and
killing
have
been
good
to
get
a
get
ahead
of
a
lot
of
that
information.
I
think
we
saw
some
of
the
modeled
impacts.
Other
parts
of
the
Cities
over
our
last
few
meetings,
so
I
think
that's
a
good
example
of
that
topic.
A
So
you
know
with
all
that
said,
having
gone
through
the
points
on
upcoming
meeting
topics
that
specifically
relate
to
our
ordinance
and
then
also
you
know.
Procedurally,
following
up
on
a
membership,
are
there
any
questions?
Thoughts,
discussion
I
want
to
make
sure
we
leave
time
for
that
on
on
potential
upcoming
meeting
topics,
I
will
leave
the
screen
up
in
case.
We
need
to
reference
anything.
A
A
You
know,
of
course,
that
goes
to
a
number
of
these
different
Ordnance
factors.
Do
you
all
have
any
kind
of
updates
on
timing
or
how
that's
gone
to
date?
And
you
know
if
it
would
be
good
from
a
timing,
standpoint
and
y'all's
process
to
discuss
any
further
with
the
the
Committees
relate
to
the
seawall
animals
project.
H
Okay
yeah.
Thank
you
hey
good,
so
we
are
firmly
moving
into
the
city's
formal
process
for
approval
of
the
project
we
had.
The
city
had
a
Planning
Commission
information
session
earlier
this
week,
where
Jacob
Lindsay
and
the
design
team
shared
the
images
to
date
and
lots
of
information
about
the
project,
highlighting
the
resiliency
components
you
know
aligning
with
the
city
and
the
Army
Corps
with
where
we
are
in
terms
of
Seawall
protection,
so
really
great.
H
We
really
enjoy
great
response
and
feedback
thus
far
in
the
process,
so
I
think
starting
in
the
New
Year.
We
move
firmly
into
the
city's
formal
process
of
all
that.
So
over
the
course.
The
next
several
months
there
will
be
opportunities
for
the
community
to
participate
in
in
public
hearings
at
all
different
levels
of
the
city's
approval
process.
So
look
for
those
postings
we'll
certainly
share
it
with
sure.
Dale
and
Kalyn
will
have
it
as
well
with
the
group,
so
we're
excited
about
it.
H
Transformational
for
the
city
and
I'm
just
really
proud
of
where
we
are
at
this
stage.
We've
had
terrific
feedback
about
how
much
we've
engaged
with
the
community
more
than
a
thousand
people
came
to
those
charrettes
that
you
mentioned,
but
even
more
people
have
been
reached
beyond
that
on
this
on
the
project.
We're
doing
some
updates
to
our
website
so
stand
by
for
that
it's
been
a
little
clunky
I
know,
and
we
apologize
for
that.
H
D
Is
that
with
respect
to
resiliency
and
what
we
have
been
doing,
we
actually
did
engage
the
team
from
Sherwood.
I
know
that
a
lot
of
folks
on
this
committee
are
familiar
with
them
and
they
have
been
doing
a
phenomenal
job
working
on
the
coastal
resiliency
portions
of
the
program
for
Union
peer,
and
so
we're
very
pleased
with
that.
I
think
that
and
Dale
I
know
you've
spent
time
with
Jordy
and
Jacob
and
myself
to
go
through
some
of
the
items
that
we're
addressing
on
Union,
Pier
I.
D
Think
also,
it's
been
great
that
the
port
similar
to
what
was
done
for
the
Queen
Street
Basin
I
know.
The
port
has
been
very
active
in
assisting
the
city
in
providing
the
check
valves
for
the
other
storm
water
basins
that
actually
outflow
underneath
Union,
Pier
I.
Think
that's
going
to
help
tremendously
in
the
long
run,
so
that's
kind
of
from
the
perspective
of
its
impact
on
this
committee
and
how
it
would
dovetail
into
any
Future
Primitive
protection.
D
B
I
would
just
add
from
the
city
so
Dan
and
Jacob
Lindsay,
you
know
I
would
say
was
less
than
two
weeks
ago
we
had
a.
We
had
a
two-hour
meeting
about
the
about
the
project,
the
process,
the
process
forward,
goals
to
achieve
going
forward
with
you
know,
storm
water
as
well
as
strong
started,
risk
title
risk
mitigation
out
there
and
the
the
folks
at
Sherwood,
I,
I,
know
them,
and
so
this
is
an
open
and
transparent
process
and
I
would
say.
B
A
Great
well
certainly
a
great
team
and
and
great
stakeholders
as
well.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
update
I've
seen
we
have
a
little
bit
of
time
left,
Dale,
I!
Think
if
you
wouldn't
mind
that
we
touched
on
some
of
the
similar
cities,
you
know,
of
course,
going
through
Norfolk.
If
you
would
mind
touching
those
on
those
again
as
well.
That'd
be
like
that'd,
be
good
to
set
a
framework
for
you
know
an
upcoming
meeting
in
this
first
quarter
or
second
quarter.
B
A
B
To
New
York
we
can
go
to
Miami,
we
can
go
to
other
parts
of
Florida,
we
can
go
to
Houston
and
Galveston
there
a
lot
and
we
can
go
to
San
Francisco.
Again.
There
are
a
lot
of
places
we
can
go
to
so
I'll
I'll
work
with
you
and
and
we'll
set
up
a
couple
of
those
sort
of
quick,
quicker
briefings
like
we
had
from
Norfolk.
You
can
see
where
they
are
and
what
they're
doing.
B
A
A
Great
we're
not
not
seeing
any,
you
know,
I
think
our
list
of
action
items
after
this
meeting
are
number
one
Susan
we
get
a
Communications
working
group
meeting
on
the
book.
Number
two.
You
know
I'll
put
a
requests
again,
you
know
any
additional
meeting
topics
you
know
please
send
them
on
yeah
I.
Think
there's
a
lot
to
go
through
here,
and
you
know,
as
committee
members
we're
all
stakeholders
and
and
citizens.
B
E
Process
wise
because
you
know
the
mayor
mayor,
puts
the
recommendations
for
the
council,
so
you
know
we'll
need
to
go
before
city
council
again
and
and
we're
up
on
our
two
years
in
April.
So
if
everybody
could
just
let
us
know
this
decision
by
like
the
end
of
January,
so
we
can
get
that
that
long
kind
of
review
process
started
from
the
mayor
and
city
council.
That
would
be
really
helpful.
Thanks.