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From YouTube: City of Charleston Special PC Meeting: City Plan 2/22/21
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City of Charleston Special PC Meeting: City Plan 2/22/21:
Meeting Agenda:
I. Housing analysis findings, continued
II. Spring engagement schedule updates
III. Racial Equity & the City Plan
IV. Public comment
V. Discussion
Click here to download or view meeting slides: https://www.charleston-sc.gov/DocumentCenter/View/28725/Special-PC-Meeting-Slides-Feb-22-2021
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A
Thanks
everybody
we're
going
to
try
and
keep
this
short.
We
just
wanted
to
share
some
additional
findings
from
our
housing
analysis.
At
our
last
meeting,
we
were
awaiting
some
some
of
our
final
deliverables
from
the
community
data
platform.
So
now
we
have
those
we're
going
to
give
you
some
additional
updates
from
that,
then
I
am
going
to
go
over
very
quickly
our
timeline
for
spring
engagement
and
something
that
wasn't
on
the
agenda
sent
out
previously
we've
added
in.
We
have
special
guests
with
us
during
this
meeting.
A
Some
graduate
students
from
the
college
of
charleston
masters
of
public
administration
program
graduate
assistants
with
the
community
assistance
program.
There
are
working
with
us
on
incorporating
racial
equity
into
the
city
plan,
so
we'll
have
them
introduce
themselves
and
say
a
little
bit
more
about
that
and
and
then
finally,
well,
we
don't
actually
have
anyone
signed
up
for
public
comment,
so
I
don't,
I
don't
think
we'll
we
can
take
that
off
the
agenda.
Nobody
signed
up
all
right
next
slide,
please,
okay,
so
starting
with
housing
analysis
findings.
A
So
I,
after
the
last
time
we
went
over
the
findings
from
the
survey
I
went
through
all
the
open-ended
responses
and
tabulated
those
and
also
pulled
out
some
housing-specific
findings
from
our
listening
session
notes.
So
that's
what
these
slides
are
going
to
be
about
here
then
response
to
the
question.
There
was
two
questions
at
the
beginning
of
the
city
plan
survey.
A
A
So
again,
gentrification
and
displacement
were
mentioned,
other
things
outside
of
housing,
the
price
of
housing
itself
beyond
mortgage
or
rent
cost
of
maintenance,
high
eviction
rates
so
being
able
to
stay
in
housing
barriers
beyond
that.
So
background
checks
and
other
things
that
limit
people's
entry
into
available
housing,
people
stuck
in
substandard
housing
or
housing-
that's
not
meeting
their
needs
because
they
can't
afford
to
move
absentee
landlords.
A
This
one
was
interesting,
so
neighborhoods
becoming
consumer
destinations,
so
losing
that
sense
of
community
and
that
you
know
investment
in
community
and
being
more
feeling
like
it's
more
of
a
commercial
destination
versus
a
neighborhood.
So
that's
another
type
of
another
way
that
gentrification
has
made
an
impact
in
certain
neighborhoods,
especially
downtown.
A
So
I
tabulated
the
responses
to
sorry.
No
sorry,
this
is
just
the
what
I
showed
you
last
time
was
the
overall
response
to
this
question.
So
are
you
concerned
about
being
able
to
stay
in
your
current
housing,
but
this
one
is
showing
you
broken
down
by
zip
code
and
you'll
see
that
the
so
the
orange
is
very
concerned.
People
answered
very
concerned
about
housing.
A
The
blue
is
somewhat
concerned
and
the
gray
is
not
concerned
at
all,
so
you
can
see
how
the
different
areas
of
the
city
compare
and
if,
if
you're
curious
about
the
higher
percentages
and
south
of
calhoun,
the
next
slide
will
explain.
You
know
why
we're
seeing
some
of
these
higher
percentages
in
places
where
or
that
are
associated
with
you
know:
higher
higher
value
homes
and
homeowners,
people
that
would
maybe
less
likely
be
worried
about
housing
costs.
A
A
Cost
of
living
versus
income
was
the
second
highest
alone,
and
I've
separated
that
out
from
high
rent
prices
and
high
home
ownership
costs,
because
it
does
get
at
that
relationship
of
income
versus
housing
costs
and
also
people
cited
cost
of
living
outside
of
housing
costs.
So
it's
expensive
to
live
in
charleston
housing
costs
included,
and
that
is
just
not
incomes
are
just
not
keeping
up
with
that
price
tag
to
live
in
charleston.
A
The
neighborhood
environment
answer
is
this
is
what
that
means
is
different
types
of
things
in
the
environment
that
were
making
it
hard
that
were
deteriorating,
the
quality
of
life
for
people
and
making
them
concerned
about
being
able
to
stay
there
so
things
that
were
contributing
to
that
were:
infrastructure,
noise,
litter
and
pollution
tourists,
college
students,
short-term
rentals
crime,
parking
on
social
and
cultural
changes.
So
everything
from
gentrification
to.
A
You
know
not
having
the
adequate
infrastructure
in
place
to
support
people
living
there.
I'm
not
going
to
read
through
all
of
these.
You
can
see
them
and
we'll
be
sharing
these
slides
after,
but
this
gives
you
a
bigger
picture
of
all
the
different
things
that
contribute
to
people's
ability
and
choice,
to
stay
or
move
somewhere
else,
and
then
I
also
pulled
out
some
of
the
themes
from
people
who
said
they
were
not
at
all
concerned.
A
So
some-
and
one
of
that
was
most
interesting-
that
I
saw
up
here
in
other
places
too
in
the
survey
results
where
a
lot
of
people
are
are
okay,
where
they
are,
but
they
can't
afford
to
move
so
as
long
as
the
house
that
they're
long
as
the
housing
that
they're
in
is
suitable
for
their
needs,
they're
fine.
But
if
those
needs
change,
if
they're
they're
retiring,
they
want
to
downsize
if
their
family
is
growing,
if
they
are
currently
renting
and
they
want
to
buy,
they
can't
because
there's
nothing
that
they
can
afford.
A
So
they
they
found
that
housing.
You
know
at
some
time
in
the
past
when
it
was
affordable
and
it
no
longer
is
so
they're
having
they're
stuck
where
they
are
or
they're
going
to
be
forced
to
move
outside
of
the
city
or
far
away
from
their
jobs.
So
that
was
something
that
we
I
saw
a
lot
of
and
yeah.
I
think
that's
it
in
terms
of
points
that
I
want
to
make
from
this
information
and
next
slide
jim.
I
think
that's
it
for
me,
oh
and
this
is
backed
up.
A
So
all
these
concerns
that
were
cited
based
on
qualitative
data.
This
is
backed
up
in
the
in
the
hard
data
as
well.
So
this
this
is
information
that
we've
pulled
out
put
on
the
charleston
city
plan
website
on
the
explore.
Tab,
get
go
to
charlestoncityplan.com,
backslash,
explorer,
you'll,
see
this
and
more
data,
but
this
is
showing
that
that
discrepancy
between
the
household
income
and
the
rent
or
home
sales
price,
so
that
discrepancy
between
wages
and
cost
of
living
in
terms
of
housing
costs.
F
F
G
F
E
H
All
the
data
we
have
right
now
is:
is
american
community
survey
data
which
is
sampled
every
year?
So
it's
it's
not
a
huge
sample
that
they
use,
but
you
know
so
it
can
vary
from
year
to
year
and
the
you
know,
the
margin
of
error
can
be
pretty
big,
but
the
latest
I've
seen
is
is
we're
looking
at
probably
a
75
to
25
kind
of
split
on.
F
Right
and
then
the
other
point
I
wanted
to
make
is
obviously
we
know
the
cost.
We
talked
about
the
all
the
articles
on
rent
rents
being
so
high
in
this
area,
but
even
home
buying
in
this
area
and
I'll
I'll
I'll
use
miss
jacobs.
This
is
made
such
a
desirable
place
for
burns
now
sunday.
Do
you
have?
Did
you
ever
imagine
how
expensive
helmets
are
and
burns
down?
I
was
looking
it's
unbelievable,
but
I
mean
if
anybody's
buying
burns
down,
I
mean
they're.
Four
hundred
thousand
five
hundred
thousand
dollar
homes.
F
I
F
I
Actually,
actually,
burns
down
is
in
keeping
with
with
south
windermere,
and
it
really
is
astounding.
Just
because
of
you
know,
you've
got
the
you
know
the
unfinished
or
the
finished
smaller
second
floor,
but
it's
just
a
great
neighborhood
burns
down
wonderful,
close-knit
sidewalks
and
it
feels
more
neighborly
than
really
south
windermere
does
and.
D
D
H
We
we
will,
unfortunately,
in
fact
I
just
saw
a
press
release
from
the
census
that
they,
they
are
now
saying
that
just
the
redistricting
data
that
we
normally
get
december
30th
or
december
31st
at
the
end
of
the
year
after
a
census
we're
not
getting
until
september
of
this
year.
They
keep
pushing
it
back,
and
so
you
know
it's
and
that's
the
data
that
that
does
break
down
by
age
and
race.
H
D
F
I'd
also
be
interested
to
know.
I
know
you
said
it
was
about
75
25
white
black,
I
guess
in
the
entire
city.
I'd
be
curious
and
I
don't
need
this
now,
but
maybe
eventually
in
the
peninsula,
because
I
know
peninsula
used
to
be
50
50..
Now,
I'm
sure
it's
very
small
percent.
I
mean
the
jeff
station's
unbelievable
in
the
peninsula
of
charleston.
I
would
say.
E
H
E
F
F
F
A
A
K
K
Right
the
engagement
findings
right
in
response
to
the
question:
what
do
you
find
most
challenging
about
living
in
charleston?
So
all
right,
when
you
have
these
answers
here,
are
they
ranked
based
on?
Are
they
ranked
in
terms
of
this
was
the
most
common
answer,
or
is
that
just
kind
of
a
generalization
of
all
the
of
all
the
answers
that
you
had.
A
A
There
were
more
general
statements
I
mean
I
could
I
could
it
would
because
it's
open-ended.
I
don't
know
that
it.
I
could
filter
the
way
that
I
process.
This
would
be
very
difficult
for
me
to
go
back
and
sort
of
filter
by
people
who
cited
these
and
where,
like
see
where
they're
coming
from
in
terms
of
zip
code
but
zip
code
would
be
the
closest
that
we
could
get
to
okay,
but
I
think
they
were
talking
you
know.
Certainly
we
could
look
at
race
across
the
city
by
neighborhood
and
see
there
are
metrics.
A
The
census
has
even
for
I
think,
or
maybe
that's
inequality,
but
there
are.
You
know
there
are
metrics
that
we
could
use
to
to
measure
segregation
in
the
city
and
then
I
think
the
the
people
who
cited
racism
were
just
speaking
generally
about
the
city,
but
I
included
those
because
of
you
know:
housing
discrimination
and
the
links
with
that,
and
then
the
housing,
the
segregation
and
the
effect
on
communities
and
warehousing
is
located
and
how
neighborhoods
were
developed.
A
J
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
patience,
I'm
so
sorry,
but
I
I,
while
I
was
muted,
I
was
going
to
say
that
this
is
a
good
segue.
I
think
the
question
that
we've
been
talking
about
as
far
as
how
race
breaks
down
around
the
city
is
actually
something
that
we
will
have
the
ability
to
do
with
our
housing
tool.
Our
housing
lookup
tool
is
to
actually
break
down
demographics
by
neighborhood
boundaries,
as
well
as
by
planned
districts.
J
So
this
is
a
awesome
tool
and
you
know
it's
gonna
help
us
answer
a
lot
of
questions
that
we
haven't
even
thought
of
yet
and
so
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
share.
You
know
what
what
is
now
available
for
us
to
look
at
some
of
this
stuff
is
information
that
cdp
compiled
through
their
machine
learning
process
that
I
still
don't
quite
understand,
and
some
of
it
is
from
sources
that
we
already
had
so
like
the
county,
assessors
data.
J
J
And
then
here's
just
a
kind
of
a
little
sample
overview
of
how
I've
how
I
use
the
tool
just
to
find
these.
This
information
for
kind
of
you
know
the
average,
the
median
housing
unit,
the
bedroom
size,
the
square
foot
size.
You
know
we
have
some
time
since
last
sale,
which
is
really
interesting,
especially
when
looking
at
neighborhood
change
got
elevation,
monthly
housing
costs,
and
that
is
rental
and
home
ownership.
They
just
kind
of
lumped
it
into
one
housing
cost.
So
it's
for
both
and
we
have
the
valuation
median
about
evaluation.
J
A
J
That
good
cool
and
if
anyone
needs
me
to
stop
on
something
or
go
back
just
let
me
know
so-
you
all
have
already
seen
a
lot
of
these
figures,
and
these
are
going
to
be
publicly
available
to
for
people
to
look
up
using
our
city
plan
website.
We
already
have
the
other
visualization
up
right
now,
but
we,
I
think
the
plan
is
to
have
both
of
these
available
to
the
public.
J
J
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
that
mismatch
on
our
last
update
to
you
all,
so
I
wanted
to
kind
of
go
over
it
again
and
kind
of
elaborate
on
it
more
with
some
additional
slides
that
are
coming
in
a
few
minutes,
and
so
here
just
to
remind
you,
we
have
the
number
of
households
that
are
falling
within
each
of
these
income
brackets
on
the
left
side
and
when
you
hover
over,
you
can
see
the
actual
numbers
so
yeah.
I
apologize
a
little
bit
small
print
here,
but
basically
this
is.
J
J
This
is
just
the
entire
city,
so
we
have
the
number
of
households
that
are
falling
within
these
different
income
categories
here
on
the
left
side
and
then
in
the
middle
we
have
the
number
of
units,
the
housing
stock
itself,
so
the
number
of
units
that
cdp's
machine
learning
algorithm
classified
as
being
affordable
to
each
of
these
income
brackets.
So
that's
in
the
middle.
So
I
think
the
term
available
here
is
a
bit
of
a
misnomer.
F
A
L
A
Mind
it's
also
including
the
wando
area,
and
so
you
know
it's.
This
is
daniel.
Island
plus
wando
make
up
the
full
kanoa
peninsula
area,
and
this
is
also
reflective
of
the
current
income
distribution
of
the
city
and
so
the
future.
The
future
housing
needs
are
in
keeping
with
if
we
keep
with
the
current
income
distribution
of
the
city
and
accommodate
future
population.
A
L
F
F
A
And
also
another
point
of
clarification
is
for
every
we
are
using
the
income
brackets
here
that
hud
uses
for
for
subsidized
housing
to
determine
the
different
funding
sources
and
the
different
needs
in
terms
of
subsidized
housing,
but
also
some
of
this
housing
could
just
be
naturally,
naturally
affordable.
For
these
income
ranges.
It's
not
going
to
be
a
common
situation
in
charleston
with
prices,
as
they
are
with
the
market
as
it
is,
but
this
is
not
all
necessarily.
This
is
not
all
deed,
restricted
or
subsidized
housing.
A
A
It
is
referring
to
the
80
to
120
bracket.
So
if
you
look
on
this
table,
that
is
the
yeah
jim's
pointing
those
out
right
now,
80
to
120,
but
when
we
use
the
term
affordable
housing
at
least
most
of
the
time
internally.
We're
talking
about
everything,
sort
of
120
and
below
I'm
falling
within
that
that
which
includes
workforce
housing.
I
A
Yes,
we'll
we'll
have
the
slot
I'll
say
the
slides
to
the
dropbox
after
this
meeting
and
there
will
be
links
so
you'll
be
able
to
click
on
the
links
that
jim
has
clicked
to,
and
these
are
public.
So
we
don't
have
this
one
loaded
onto
our
website
yet,
but
we
will
soon,
but
these
are
public.
This
is
publicly
available
information
at
this
time,
so
we
can
share
those
things.
That's.
J
We've
said
it
before,
but
I
want
to
really
underscore
the
fact
that
these
numbers
down
here
are
not
necessarily
reflective
of
you
know.
If
you
were
looking
at
this
graph,
you
might
think
we
don't
need
any
100
ami
units
within
the
city
and
that's
not
the
message.
We
want
you
to
walk
away
when
looking
at
this,
because
you
know
these
are
kind
of
in
a
perfect
world
if
we
could
put
everyone
out
on
their
street
and
put
them
in
a
home
that
is
affordable
to
their
income
range.
J
This
is
how
it
would
break
down.
So
obviously,
people
choose
to
live
in
homes
for
a
lot
of
different
reasons,
other
than
their
affordability,
and
so,
whereas
you
know,
we
know
for
a
fact
that
there
are
people
cross-burdened
at
each
of
these
income
ranges,
and
so
we
know
for
a
fact
that
we
need
units
at
each
of
these
income
ranges
to
accommodate,
and
so
this
is
really
just
to
balance.
This
mismatch
number.
J
J
The
same
thing
might
be
occurring
if
you're,
making
over
120
ami,
we
see
we
have
a
deficit
of
homes
that
that
are
affordable
to
that
income
range
as
well.
So
that's
the
you
know
the
top
half
or
the
the
top
of
our
our
chart
here,
and
so
a
person
making
120
ami
could
also
be
living
in
a
home,
that's
affordable
for
someone
making,
100
emi,
and
so
chloe
made
this
graphic.
That
kind
of
shows
if
these
bottom
and
top
income
ranges
ate
up
the
housing
of
the
next
one
below
it.
J
This
will
be
the
deficits
that
we
would
have.
So
if
a
person,
if
the,
if
all
of
these
7
000
this
deficit
of
7
000,
was
eaten
up
by
that
50
mi
we'd
still
have
a
deficit
of
5,
000
and
so
on
and
so
on,
and
so,
if
in
on
the
other
side
of
it,
if
all
of
them
of
all
the
deficit,
this
17
000
was
eating
up
our
100
20
percent
stock
we'd
still
have
a
deficit
of
seven
thousand.
J
So
eventually
these
these
two,
these
two
will
meet,
and
you
know
this
is
this
is
why
we're
seeing
people
cost
burden
at
all
income
levels.
It
really
comes
from
both
sides
of
the
spectrum,
and
I
hope
that
I
didn't
make
it
more
confusing
and
chloe,
please
chime
in.
If
I,
if
anything,
I
said,
was
confusing.
A
Just
wanted
to
you
know
illustrate
the
fluid
nature
of
this,
and
when
we
have
a
shortage,
housing
stock
for
one
income
range
that
it
affects
the
supply
and
housing
for
other
income
ranges
so
and
it's
and
it's
and,
as
you
can
see
here
below
this
of
the
other
factors
contributing
to
housing
choices.
When
you
combine
this
income
mismatch
with
all
of
these
other
things,
it
leads
to
the
situation
that
we're
in
now,
which
is
with
a
high
percentage
of
the
population
being
cross-bordered
in
charleston,
and
so,
which
is
our
next
visualization.
D
D
But
how
do
we
quantify
in
this
data,
people
that,
let's
say
live
in
hanahan
or
goose,
creek
or
ladson
or
outside
of
the
city
of
charleston
in
a
non-cost
burdened
way
only
because,
but
they
work
in
charleston
would
rather
live
closer.
How
do
we
integrate
that
information,
or
is
it
integrated
into
this
analysis?
In
some
format?
D
J
D
G
D
Well,
that's
where
I
was
going
was
that
you,
you
create
a
the
secondary
problem
of
transportation
when
people
are
forced
outside
of
the
city
for
their
housing
stock.
So
I
I
was
just
curious
how
that
was
factored
in
because
it
does
it
probably,
even
though
we
don't
get
the
data
we're
aware
of
it,
and
it
creates
an
opportunity
for
a
planning,
you
know
implementation,
you
know
objective.
Okay,
thank
you.
J
J
J
J
J
J
You
go
out
a
little
bit
that
shows
the
different
areas
of
the
city
broken
out
by
their
costs,
and
I
think
that
this
is
for
me.
This
is
a
big,
a
very
interesting
data
point
that
we
found
and
looking
at
you
know
as
we
would
expect
some
of
the
places
that
are
further
out
the
kenyan
peninsula
and
john's
island
are
going
to
have
higher
transportation
costs.
J
People
are
more
car
dependent
and
own,
more
cars
per
family,
they're,
also
traveling,
more
vehicle
miles,
and-
and
so
one
of
the
big
you
know,
illuminating
things
for
me-
was
that
sometimes
those
vehicles,
those
transportation
costs,
are
kind
of
eating
into
the
savings
that
you
get
for
for
living
in
a
less
expensive
home
and
so
on
john's
island.
We
see
a
lot,
you
know
a
lower
valuation
for
the
homes,
but
then
you
know
that
savings
of
the
housing
cost
is
kind
of
even
up
by
transportation.
J
It
becomes
almost
almost
the
same
as
living
on
the
charleston
peninsula.
When
you
account
for
transportation,
which
I
think
is
really
interesting-
and
you
know
with
this
pie
chart
we
included
that
transportation
cost
into
the
30
percent.
As
like
the
cost
burden
threshold,
but
hud
doesn't
actually
provide
a
figure
for
how
much
homes
or
households
should
pay
for
transportation.
J
So
I
wanted
to
note
that,
because
you
know
that
30
percent
might
not
be
fair
to
say
that
you
know
if
we
put
transportation
in
to
that,
that
someone
has
cost
burdened,
but
it's
just
a
way
that
we
can
compare
across
different
areas
of
the
city
so
yeah
this
is.
This
is
available
up
online.
We'll
share
the
link
to
that
and
you
can
look
around
down
here.
We
just
have
some
information
about
how
we
calculated
everything.
J
One
of
them
was
market
supply
and
demand,
and
I
think,
throughout
this
process
we
spoke
with
developers.
We
spoke
with
the
association
of
realtors
and
some
other
folks
that
talked
about
housing
stock.
You
know
the
housing
shortage,
and
you
know
any
housing
is
good
housing
to
be
built
right
now,
and
so
this
was.
This
was
a
graph
or
an
article
that
we
found
online.
That
was
an
interesting
point
that
charleston
really
is
building
a
lot
of
new
homes.
J
J
And
so
and
here's
here's
another
data
point
that
is
up
on
our
explorer
tab
and
just
covering
you
know
the
amount
of
homes
that
have
been
built
within
the
last.
I
believe
this
is
yeah
2010
to
2019.,
and
so
you
know
we
we
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
units
going
up
around
the
city
down.
Here
we
wanted
to
share
the
the
vacancy
rate,
which
I
think
is
an
interesting
data
point.
Is
that
there's
always
a
certain
amount
of
units
that
are
vacant
at
any
time?
J
Ours
is
about
9.6
percent
and
the
u.s
average
is
around
8.6
of
units
that
are
unoccupied
for
whatever
reason,
so
that
could
be
second
homes.
It
could
be
vacation,
rentals
or
units
that
are
that
are
unoccupiable
for
whatever
reason
which-
and
I
thought
this
number
was
interesting
when
you
compared
to
charleston
county
as
a
whole
granted.
J
I
think
last
time
we
we
met
with
you
all
we
expected
to
have
a
third
visualization,
and
we
have
not
forgotten
about
that.
Third
visualization.
We
have
all
the
data
a
lot
of
the
data
packaged
for
it,
but
we're
we're
we're
still
kind
of
playing
with
that
internally
and
it's
it's
something.
We've
decided
we
wanted
to
build
out
on
our
own,
and
so
that's
going
to
be
a
gentrification
and
displacement
analysis.
F
J
Neighborhoods
have
changed
based
on
some
of
these
different
data
point
data
metrics
that
have
that
we
have
that
research
has
shown
to
be
contributing
to
gentrification
or
kind
of
beacons
for
gentrification
to
each
of
these
points,
and
so
we're
tracking
those.
We
have
a
lot
of
this
data
packaged
already
that
you
know
it's
kind
of
a
how
we
can
measure
gentrification
and
how
a
neighborhood
has
changed,
and
then
we
also
wanted
to
look
at
priority
areas.
So
one
of
the
big
takeaways
from
our
housing
labs
was
people.
J
F
Jim,
that
would
be
really
interesting,
because
I
tell
you,
I
I
think
about
like
west
oak
forest
and
exo
forest,
and
I
remember
those
were
pretty
diverse
and
now
I
think
they're,
almost
all
the
young
whites
moving
into
those
areas.
I
think-
and
it
concerns
me
that
area,
but
also,
then
I
think,
about
maryville
and
more
and
more
maryville,
probably
becoming
gentrification
in
the
maryville
area
as
well.
D
Yeah
charlie
I'd
like
to
back
you
up
on
that,
because
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
west
ashley
were
built,
you
know
for
low
income,
they
transitioned
to
another
type,
now
they're
tradition,
transitioning
back
to
even
a
third
type.
So
there's
a
cycle
in
there
that,
even
in
modern
time,
people
don't
completely
understand
they
think
that
certain
neighborhoods
were
built
for
african
americans
and
that's
been
a
transition
that
happened
in
history
and
then
we
went
from
white
to
an
african-american
to
a
mixed
use
and
now
we're
you
know
moving.
F
J
Anyway,
yeah,
I
think
this.
This
breakdown
is
also
interesting
for
kind
of
thinking
about
how
we
can
tailor
different
policy
approaches
to
achieve
the
outcomes
that
we
want,
because
you
know,
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
are
changing
in
different
ways,
so
the
same
solutions
won't
fit
each
neighborhood
and
we
can
look
at
kind
of
the
different
factors
that
go
into
that
and
maybe
tailor
some
policy
solutions
to
those
specific
issues.
D
Donnie
yeah
y'all
are
getting
a
huge
amount
of
data
here.
Are
you
all
beginning
to
see
some?
You
know
planning
opportunities
or
questions
or
thoughts
coming
from
this
data
at
all,
are
you
that
you
all
again,
you
know,
as
you
write
the
plan
based
on
the
data,
I'm
just
wondering
are
the
questions
coming
to
your
mind,
because
one
question
that
immediately
popped
into
my
mind
is
that
this
concept
of
the
missing
middle,
that
we
don't
have
all
the
right
types
of
housing
stocks.
D
D
J
Yeah,
I
think,
up
to
this
point,
we've
really
been
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
product
that
we
received
from
cdp
is
something
that's
going
to
be
really
useful
for
us
and
for
other
departments
in
the
city,
and
so
that
has
been
a
task
in
itself
and
I
think
all
the
questions
that
come
with
all
this
data
is
is
the
other
elephant
that
we've
gotta
swallow.
So
it's
really,
I
see
that
miss
harrison
has
her
handbrake.
K
K
You
know
all
about
the
the
number
of
housing
units
that
are
coming
online
or
are
permitted,
because
I
know
we,
you
know
consistently
see
certain
areas
such
you
know
what
specifically
james
island.
They
have
only
2
000,
I
think
total
units,
but
seemingly
you
know,
I
was
underneath
the
impression
that
they
had
significantly
more
coming
online,
but
yet
west
ashley,
the
peninsula
and
other
areas
are
carrying
a
greater
weight
of
those
number
of
units.
So
I
think
it
you
know.
K
The
second
thing
I
I
wanted
to
kind
of
you
know
talk
about
is
is
how
we
utilize
the
word
gentrification
just
because
there
are
various
ways
that
people
define
it,
and
you
know
what
does
that
really
mean
some
people?
You
know
how?
What
does
that
really?
Look
like
I've?
Never
really
heard
a
solution
for
how
you
stop
gentrification
or
or
what
the
or
what
you
know,
how
you
implement
ways
to
to
reverse
gentrification
or
or
to
to
stop
it.
K
But
then
you
know
in
the
same
vein,
you
know:
there's
always
the
person
who
is
you
have
to
have
a
willing
seller
and
a
willing
buyer,
and
so
that
to
me
also
is
something
that
you
know
doesn't
necessarily
speak
of
gentrification.
It
just
speaks
of
you
know,
holding
on
to
a
piece
of
property
for
generations
and
then
saying
it's
time
to
to
let
go
for
for
for
of
myriads
of
reasons.
So
how
are?
How
are
we
presenting
that
definition
or
saying
what
is
gentrification?
A
That's
a
great
question
I'll
take
this
one
jim,
so
the
way
that
we
have
this
drafted
right
now
in
the
in
the
third
visualization
that
that
still
needs
more
tweaking,
which
is
the
reason
why
we
don't
have
that
ready
for
you
all
is
just
showing
how
the
neighborhood
is
changing.
Like
you
said,
it's
people
have
different
definitions
of
gentrification.
People
have
different
experiences
with
it
and
there's
so
many
different
factors
contributing
to
it.
A
And
you
know
what
can
what
tools
do
we
have
as
planners?
Is
we're
going
to
focus
on
the
displacement
part
of
this,
which
is
not
all
does
not
always
go
along
with
gentrification
or
neighborhood
changing
and
displacement
definition
being
you
know,
sort
of
some
level
of
involuntarily
having
to
move
having
to
leave.
So
that's
why
we
focused
on
looking
at
percent
of
the
population.
A
That's
cost
burdened
in
a
neighborhood
percent
of
homes
that
are
renter
occupied,
so
you
know
they
have
less
control
if
their
rent
goes
up
versus
a
homeowner
can
have
pretty
reliably
know
how
much
their
health
annual
housing
costs
are
going
to
be,
and
then
the
climate
factor
as
well.
So
we're
going
to
focus
on
this
part
we're
going
to
show
how
neighborhoods
are
changing
and
we
want
to.
A
We
want
to
provide
that
data
because
we
think
it's
important
for
the
community
to
have,
and
for
you
know,
staff
and
elected
officials
and
commissioners
to
have
access
to
and
to
have
conversations
about,
but
I
think
we're
really
going
to
focus
on
in
the
plan
in
terms
of
any
kind
of
policy,
recommendations
or
land
use.
Recommendations
will
be
on
the
risk
of
displacement
and
what
kind
of
interventions
whether
it
be
on
the
planning
side
or
the
housing
side?
K
And
thank
you
chloe,
there's
one.
I
did
have
one
other
question
and
I
know
that
we
that
y'all's
data
has
broken
it
down
to
the
various.
I
guess
we
call
it
the
burrows
of
charleston,
but
in
particular,
can
you
is
it
possible
to
break
that
data
on
the
peninsula
down
a
bit
further?
Where
we're
looking
at?
You
know
north
of
calhoun
street.
K
In
terms
of
that
breakdown
of,
like
the
displacement,
the
cost
of
housing,
rentals
versus
non-rentals,
you
know
the
I'd,
you
know
accommodations
uses
because
you
know
the
peninsula
has
its.
You
know
various
parts
to
it
that
are
either
commercial
housing
related.
But
you
know
we
don't
know,
you
know
what
which
neighborhoods,
which
neighborhoods
are.
Are
you
know
even
at
further
risk.
A
Yes,
so
all
we
have
all
of
this
data
at
a
neighborhood
level,
so
we're
pulling
out
well
the
cost
burdened
for
the
two
visuals,
that
jim
showed
the
affordability
analysis
and
then
the
cost,
the
housing
and
transportation
cost
burden
to
visuals
that
are
interactive.
Those
are
just
by
main
area
of
the
city,
but
the
information
that
jim
has
displayed
right
now
on
the
screen.
We
have
all
we.
We
have
this
information
on
every
single
housing
unit
in
the
city
and
so
for
the
gentrification
and
displacement
analysis.
A
Our
plan
was
to
look
at
those
indicators
on
a
neighborhood
scale
on
a
neighborhood
level
versus
of
just
the
larger
area
of
the
city,
so
yeah.
We
can
there's
a
lot
that
we
can
answer
with
this
data.
I
will
say
that
we
probably
can't
answer
all
questions
for
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
we
hope
that
a
lot
some
of
these
bigger
picture
recommendations
will
lead
to
more
in-depth,
smaller
scale
analysis
going
going
forward.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
want
to
echo
miss
harrison's
comment
on
the
definition
of
gentrification,
because
I
think
what
it
might
have
meant
20
years
ago.
It's
probably
changed
in
modern
time.
There
are
lots
of
communities
where
people
actually
own
their
property,
and
I've
had
conversations
with
these
people
where
once
they
choose
to
sell
their
property,
they
the
dynamic,
will
change
because
of
the
buyer,
and
I
think
we
need
to
understand
that.
D
B
Yeah
I'd
just
like
to
say,
mr
chairman,
I
I
agree
with
both
donna
and
erica.
You
know.
I've
always
kind
of
seen
gentrification
as
not
necessarily
racial
is
which
so
many
people
feel
like,
but
it's
really
about
the
loss
of
diversity
in
a
neighborhood,
whether
it's
age
or
income
or
race,
or
any
of
those
other
categories
that
we're
looking
at
on.
Those
data
points
that
this
that
we're
gathering
here.
F
Good
point
harry,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
I
think
when
I
talked
about
the
differences
in
the
and
the
changes
in
the
it
was
just
so
devastating
for
me
or
unbelievable,
the
african-american.
So
I
just
point
that
that's
just
me
on
that,
but
I
agree
with
you.
Defecation
is
a
lot
bigger
word
than
just
race,
so
I
appreciate
that.
That's
good
comments.
Anybody
else
comments,
questions
jim,
thank
you
for
your
work
and
your
presentation.
Chloe.
A
A
This
is
not
including
survey
response,
just
people
who
showed
up
to
some
sort
of
gathering,
virtual
or
in
person
39
of
people
who
participated
in
a
listening
session
said
in
the
or
in
the
beginning
poll
that
they
had
never
or
have
rarely
participated
in
any
kind
of
planning
process.
So
that's
a
great
number
of
new
people
to
this
conversation
and
something
else
we
learned
from
round
one
is
the
community
led
conversations
and
that
that
partnership
with
community
partners
was
essential
in
increasing
the
diversity
of
our
participants.
A
So
city-led
meetings
were
a
little
less
diverse,
but
those
community-led
meetings
really
made
a
huge
difference
in
increasing
the
diversity
of
our
overall
participation.
So
for
round
two.
Our
priorities
are
going
to
build
on
progress
in
round.
One
continue
targeting
you
know,
prioritizing
getting
more
participation
from
underrepresented
groups,
so
we
still
have
definitely
a
lot
of
progress
we
can
be
making
in
that
regard
and
continue
to
prioritize
the
quality
of
engagement
over
quantity.
A
A
A
A
That's
that
date
we're
waiting
to
schedule
that
date,
because
this
is
really
a
moving
target
still
with
covid
and
also
when
we
can
actually
wrap
up
having
the
draft
plan
itself
in
document
form
and
in
may
is
when
we
anticipate
continuing
that
public
hearings
and
bringing
it
to
the
council
and
planning
commission
for
a
joint
workshop.
So
that
is
the
plan
and
again
dates
and
times
to
be
confirmed,
and
this
is
subject
to
change.
This
is
a
fluid.
This
has
been
a
fluid
process.
A
A
G
G
M
Hi
everyone,
my
name
is
caitlin.
I
am
a
first
year
graduate
student
at
college
of
charleston
and
I'm
actually
in
the
concurrent
program
with
the
mpa
in
evss
and
I'm
it's
my
first
year
of
cap
being
a
grad
assistant
and
I'm
originally
from
rhode
island.
So
I'm
new
to
the
charleston
area,
but
we're
both
really
excited
to
be
on
this
project.
G
Yes
and
a
bit
of
an
overview
of
what
we're
doing,
we
are
basically
looking
at
other
cities,
comprehensive
plans
and
research
and
data
through
the
mpa
program
at
cfc
to
have
a
racial
equity
lens
over
the
plan
because,
as
been
stated
before,
like
there's
a
steady
declining
black
population
and
historically
it's
not
been
that
way.
So
some
things
are
going
on
in
a
background
that
most
of
us
feel
need
to
be
addressed,
and
this
is
the
first
steps
to
do
it.
A
That
conversation
is
ongoing
and
they're
also
going
to
be
participating
in
the
engagement
sessions
and
helping
to
take
notes
and
help
synthesize
that
feedback
so
really
excited
about
this
partnership
and
the
the
good
intention.
You
know
we
we
wanted
to
be
explicit
about
this,
and
not
just
not
just
do
it,
but
also
make
sure
that
we're
articulating
it
and
that
we're
having
someone
else
take
a
look
at
what
we're
doing
and
help
us
see
where
we
can
fill
some
gaps.
D
B
N
Thank
you,
I'm
so
sorry.
I
missed
the
first
part
of
the
meeting.
I
had
a
last
minute
council
committee
meeting
that
the
mayor
needed
me
on,
but
I
hope
to
watch
the
first
hour
on
youtube.
It'll
be
some
of
my
viewing
tonight,
because
I
hear
that
you
all
had
lots
of
good
comments
and
I'm
excited
to
see
those.