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Citizen’s Police Advisory Council - ERA Team, 4/18/2023
B
All
right,
thank
you,
everybody
for
coming
to
this
special
called
session
of
the
City
of
Charleston
citizens,
police
advisory,
Council
yeah.
The
Genesis
of
this
meeting
was
at
our
CPAC
meeting
a
couple
weeks
ago.
You
know
we
had
asked
for
an
update
on
the
third
party
audit
and
we
asked
if
we
couldn't
meet
with
the
audit
team,
just
to
introduce
ourselves
get
an
understanding
of
what
the
project
plan
looks
like
what
they're
going
to
do
and
to
offer
our
involvement
in
that,
and
so
I
really
want
to.
B
Thank
you
at
the
Forefront
jilford
jumping
right
on
this
and
making
it
happen.
I
think
within
a
couple
of
days,
she
had
an
answer
for
us
and
an
invite,
and
you
know
we
we've.
You
know
we
as
Citizens
and
Council.
You
have
council
members
and
things
like
that.
We
couldn't
ask
for
anything
better,
so
Joe
I
definitely
appreciate
that.
B
C
B
Thank
you
at
this
time.
I
think
we're
next
on
our
agenda
is
we're
going
to
have
four
minutes
of
citizens
participation
I,
believe
we
only
had
I
just
checked,
Jill
and
I
think
we
only
had
two
people
sign
up
so
rather
than
limiting
them
to
one
minute.
What
I'll
do
is
I'll
just
divide
the
four
minutes
between
the
two
and
give
them
each
two
minutes
each.
B
D
Thank
you
so
much
so
my
name
is
Adrian
Caper,
Swinton
and
I'm.
The
City
of
Charleston
human
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation
manager
and
I
also
support
what
is
the
human
Affairs
racial
conciliation
commission.
We
know
that
as
Park,
so
the
purpose
of
hark
is
to
promote
equity
and
inclusion
and
RAC
racial
conciliation.
D
Is
you
know
wanting
to
leverage
some
leadership
in
the
racist,
the
racial
bias
audit
and
we
would
like
to
be
a
part
of
the
onset
of
the
implementation,
so
I
did
receive
an
invite,
but
I
also
would
like
if
my
other
Commissioners
were
able
to
attend
these,
the
kickoff
and
the
meetings
as
well,
because
we're
doing
this
work
together
and
I
think
that
being
that
we
are
working
in
Partnership.
That
should
be
something
that
should
be
transparency
and
also
we
should
leverage
each
other's
leadership.
D
B
A
B
Okay,
so
Suzanne
is
from
cajam
and
she
did
send
four
notes
as
well.
We're
going
to
include
her
notes
in
the
minutes
of
our
meeting.
So
when
we
distribute
the
minutes,
you'll
have
those
as
well
as
one
of
the
citizens.
Also
Anthony
Bryant
submitted
media
submitted
comments
through
the
portal.
Those
are
also
going
to
be
attached
to
our
meeting
minutes
so
that
everybody
will
have
an
opportunity,
and
you
can
also
go
into
the
portal
and
see
those
comments
as
well.
If
you
I
think
everybody
should
have
access
to
that.
B
A
Thank
you,
chairman
and
I.
It's
great
to
see
you
all
tonight,
thank
you
for
for
your
interest
in
this
important
discussion
and
for
meeting
this
important
team
and,
for
my
part,
I'm,
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
Dr
Robert
kale
who's
going
to
be
introducing
the
team
and
going
through
the
agenda.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you,
Bob
I,
appreciate
that
hello.
My
CPAC
council
members,
yes
I
did
I,
did
accept
the
offer
to
work
with
this
team
because
you
may
recall
when
this
CPAC
was
first
established.
Some
of
you
may
recall
when
CPAC
was
first
established,
we're
very
committed
and
concerned
about
improving
the
relationship
between
the
City
of
Charleston,
Police,
Department
and
the
community,
so
I
think
CPAC
is
well
on
its
way
and
has
been
doing
some
great
things.
F
Yes,
I
am
still
a
member
of
CPAC
and
I
have
talked
with
Bob
extensively
to
ensure
that
my
membership
on
CPAC
will
not
be
compromised
in
any
way
by
my
participation
on
the
evaluation
team
and
assessment.
Actually
I'm
excited
about
it,
because
it
gives
me
an
opportunity
to
help
to
ensure
that
community
members
are
included
in
the
vetting
of
information
and
ensuring
that
we,
as
the
Charleston
Community,
continue
to
participate
in
working
to
bring
about
harmonious
relationships
between
the
community
and
the
City
of
Charleston.
F
F
I
I
accepted
the
position
and
asked
that
if
any
funds
were
going
to
be
paid
to
the
position
that
those
funds
be
utilized
to
ensure
that
we're
able
to
do
the
work
that
is
necessary
because,
as
you
know,
CPAC
has
been
asking
questions
for
a
while
about
the
racial
bias
audit
and
the
progress,
so
I
have
asked
to
not
receive
any
funding
to
allow
for
opportunities
for
other
actions
to
occur.
Many
of
us
also
remember
that
the
City
of
Charleston
has
been
struggling
in
the
past.
F
We
thought
to
be
able
to
get
the
third
party
oversight
done
and
now
that
that
has
been
achieved,
I'm
excited
about
it
and
I
sure
hope
that
you
are
as
well
and
that
we
will
be
able
to
glean
the
information
needed,
not
be
shy
about
it,
but
be
open,
honest
and
share
information
so
that
we
could
do
exactly
what
has
been
desired.
So
I
hope.
F
My
fellow
council
members,
I
hope
you
are
excited
and
pleased
with
me
accepting
this
other
action
and
I
look
forward
to
working
along
with
you
to
help
ensure
that
we
reach
all
of
the
community
members
as
possible
to
be
able
to
glean
beneficial
information
for
this
Project's
success.
Thank
you,
Bob
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
I.
Don't
think
I
really
need
to
introduce
myself
any
further.
Everybody
knows
me
right,
I
think
so
or
a
little
bit,
but
if,
if
you
have
a
question
later
on,
you
do
know
how
to
reach
me.
F
E
You
know
when
we
have
talked
about
this,
but
in
The
Proposal
we
did
talk
about
engaging
in
African-American
moderator,
but
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
the
role
that
Juan
is
playing
is
far
more
than
that.
She's
already
met
with
Charlton
to
go
over
a
strategy
for
the
community
forums,
talking
about
the
tone
and
quality
of
the
letter,
setting
the
appropriate
rules
up
for
the
forums
so
that
people
feel
safe
and
feel
that
they
can
speak
freely.
So
thwan
we're
delighted
to
have
you
here.
F
And
Bob
may
I
say
one
more
thing
when
you
said
that
it
jogged
my
memory
for
the
kickoff
I
know,
Adrian
mentioned
about
heart
and
additional
members
being
able
to
attend
for
the
kickoff.
The
meeting
site
is
about
a
capacity
for
30
and
we
do
have
ministers
in
the
downtown
Charleston
area
from
the
variety
of
Faith
backgrounds
that
we
are.
F
We
added
to
the
list
to
invite
and
I
can
certainly
talk
to
Charlton
later
on
Adrian,
if
you
would,
if,
hopefully,
you
wrote
down
my
phone
number,
if
you
can
text
me,
but
the
space
is
the
thing
that
has
us
bound
right
now
for
just
the
kickoff
meeting,
but
the
forums
are
going
to
be
larger
venues.
We
talked
about
that
already.
Those
will
be
larger
venues
to
allow
for
as
many
who
can
attend
as
possible.
E
Thanks
for
that
clarification,
okay,
let
me
proceed
and
go
ahead
and
I
have
members
of
the
team
introduce
themselves.
So
first
we're
going
to
go
to
Dr
Jeffrey
Alpert,
a
professor
at
the
University
of
South
Carolina
and
the
principal
investigator
on
this
project.
Dr
Albert.
Would
you
please
introduce
yourself
and
talk
to
a
little
bit
about
your
role.
E
E
Thanks
Kyle,
we
appreciate
you
being
here
tonight
on
your
work
on
the
project
to
date.
Happy
to
have
you
on
board
Charlton
Brownell
Trump's
joining
us
as
a
research
associate,
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself.
Charlton,
particularly
your
familiarity
with
the
audit
and
the
police
department's
strategic
leadership
plan.
J
E
Thanks
John,
it's
great
to
have
you
on
board
and
just
want
to
give
you
an
example
of
how
things
are
moving
so
quickly
that
just
this
afternoon,
Charlton
got
out
what
about
50
invitations
or
so
via
email
for
the
community
kickoff
meeting,
and
just
to
mention
that
Community
kickoff
meeting
will
be
on
Tuesday.
The
25th
is
that
right,
Charlton
I'll
go
over
the
schedule
in
a
moment.
E
That's
correct,
yeah
and
that's
something
that
was
requested
of
us
to
add
when
we
listened
to
one
of
the
public
safety
committee
meetings,
and
so
we
hope
by
the
addition
of
that
meeting
and
also
the
work
that
we're
doing
with
Juan
on
the
community
engagement
that
we're
demonstrating
good
faith
and
responding
to
Community
requests.
I'd
like
to
also
say
that
we're
not
done
this
is
the
beginning,
certainly
not
the
end
and
recruitment
to
continue
to
diversify.
E
Our
our
research
team
continues,
although
I
don't
have
anything
that
I
anything
in
addition
to
announce
tonight,
I
want
to
take
a
minute
to
introduce
myself
as
well.
Some
of
you
may
know
me
or
may
know
the
work
that
I've
done,
but
let
me
just
do
a
little
bit
of
a
of
a
introduction
of
myself
I'm
educated
as
a
sociologist
and
I
spent
most
of
my
career
on
me
and
my
private
Consulting
practice.
E
Although
I've
been
here
in
Charleston
for
about
10
years,
I
did
spend
four
years
at
the
O'reilly
Center
for
livable
communities
at
the
College
of
Charleston,
and
some
of
you
may
know
me
from
my
work
there.
One
of
the
few
projects
we
worked
on
was
the
Charleston
youth
count,
which
was
the
first
ever
account
of
literally
homeless,
Youth
and
Young
adults
in
Charleston
County.
E
If
you're
interested
in
looking
at
that
report,
it
is
available
on
the
O'reilly
Center's
website
and
also,
as
Charlton
mentioned,
with
the
strategic
planning
that
we
facilitated
with
the
Charleston
Police
Department
I
did
much
of
that
facilitation.
We
had
several
meetings
of
the
command
staff
at
the
Riley
Center,
which
is
right
across
the
parking
lot
from
CPD
headquarters.
So
that
is
why
I'm
so
familiar
with
the
Strategic
plan
and
the
racial
bias
audit
I've
been
involved
with
crime
and
criminal
justice
evaluations
for
a
long
time.
E
I
mentioned
the
youth
count,
but
another
more
recent
project
that
some
of
you
might
be
familiar
with
is
one
that
we
did
just
last
fall
under
the
kale
strategic
initiative.
Insight
spanner,
and
that
was
the
non-profit
compensation
study
for
together
SC
relevant
to
this
piece.
We
do
substantial
analysis
of
disparities
in
compensation
between
African-American
and
white,
non-profit
leaders,
men
and
women
and
in
various
levels
of
Education.
The
executive
summary
of
that
study
is
available
on
together
sc's
website,
which
you
can
pull
down
for
free
they're.
E
Jill
I
wanted
to
just
just
welcome
Jill,
now
Jill's
our
day-to-day
contact
with
the
Charleston
Police
Department,
and
we
have
been
working
very
closely
together
for
the
couple
of
weeks
in
which
the
project
spend
live
and
going
so
Jill.
Thank
you
for
all
your
support
and
we
look
forward
to
working
together
with
you
further.
E
E
Okay,
then,
let's
proceed.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
do
a
quick
overview
of
the
project
goals
and
objectives.
I'll
then
talk
about
project
components
with
the
schematic
that
some
of
you
who've
reviewed.
The
proposal
may
already
be
aware
of,
and
then
I'll
talk
about
the
project
deliverables
after
we
do
that
I'm
going
to
ask
Charlton
to
go
over
the
schedule
and
some
key
milestones
for
this
work
so
Jill.
If
we,
if
you
would
go
ahead
and
share
the
screen,
let's
go
to
those
goals
and
objectives
thanks.
E
E
We
want
to
accurately
track
implementation
efforts,
so
our
primary
goal-
and
this
is
what
we
keep
in
mind-
is
to
review
and
assess
the
implementation
of
the
recommendations
identified
by
CNS
CNAs
assessment
team
are
related
to
the
five
key
areas
of
focus
below
recall
that
there's
a
72
recommendations,
one
which
was
canceled
and
the
other
one
which
we're
fulfilling
now,
which
is
the
third
party
review
and
the
other
70
are
distributed
across
these
areas.
The
first
is
traffic
stops
and
field
contacts.
This
is
now
being
called.
E
The
motor
vehicles
stops
a
little
bit
different
because
it's
not
just
related
to
traffic
stops.
The
second
is
use
of
force.
The
third
is
the
complaint
process.
This
includes
both
internal
and
external
complaints,
so
citizen
complaints,
as
well
as
complaints
that
may
arise
within
the
CPD
and
then
Community
oriented
policing
practices,
recruitment
retention
and
Personnel
practices,
so
it's
tracking
of
and
assessing
the
implementation
and
progress
of
the
recommendations
across
these
five
areas.
E
E
E
E
Additionally,
we'll
ask
for
suggestions
from
our
subject
matter:
experts
for
the
ongoing
assessment
of
racial
bias
in
the
department
going
forward,
the
third
area,
which
is
very
important
to
us
and
the
one
that
we're
in
part
starting
to
fulfill
right
now
is
the
citizen
and
sickle
or
engagement
feedback.
We
want
to
design
and
Implement
feedback
mechanisms,
so
that
residents
and
other
key
stakeholder
groups
can
give
us
authentic
feedback,
and
we're
serious
about
that.
So
certainly
CPAC
is
helpful
in
that
regard.
E
Hark
we're
also
interested
in
working
with
and,
of
course,
all
of
those
advocacy
organizations,
neighborhood
organizations,
businesses
we're
going
to
do
several
things.
A
couple
of
community
forums,
one
of
them
West
Ashley,
one
on
the
peninsula,
we're
going
to
do
10
to
12
personal
interviews
with
key
leaders
and
we've
defined
and
with
thwan's
help
already
a
couple
of
other
forms
of
feedback
beyond
what
we've
already
committed
to
in
The
Proposal.
E
Maybe
we
can
talk
about
those
in
depth
here
in
a
few
minutes,
but
creating
a
safe
environment,
a
safe
place
for
citizens
to
give
their
unvarnished
views
of
how
they
feel
about
the
Charleston
Police
Department,
especially
in
regard
to
the
recommendations
stemming
from
the
audit,
is
a
critical
piece
for
our
efforts
in
this
external
review
and
assessment,
and
then
lastly,
I
mentioned
this
earlier.
This
is
the
actual
findings
and
the
ongoing
process
evaluation
framework,
so
we're
going
to
make
recommendations
in
that
regard.
E
I
can
sum
it
up
this
way
in
this
chart,
yeah
just
go
ahead
and
get
us
to
the
there
we
go,
so
we
have
the
one
circle
at
the
top,
which
is
the
Fidelity
assessment,
that's
where
we've
really
started
and
we're
looking
at
data
and
documents
regarding
all
of
those
areas,
all
five
of
the
areas
and
all
of
the
recommendations
that
are
made.
This
is
already
started.
E
And
then
the
third
component
is
the
public
perception
of
progress
on
racial
bias
and
overall
satisfaction
with
the
Charleston
Police
Department.
There's
really
two
components
in
this
third
circle.
There
one
is
the
quantitative
survey
which
has
been
designed,
and
we
have
some
ideas
in
terms
of
working
with
CPAC
I
know.
E
Jill
has
already
started
that
process
and
trying
to
increase
response
rates
for
a
more
representative
representative
sample,
and
then
the
other
community
outreach
portion
that
I've
described
the
public
forums
of
the
personal
interviews
and
other
ways
for
citizens
to
provide
feedback
will
be
included
in
that
more
qualitative
assessment
of
public
perception.
That's
all
going
to
lead
to
a
detailed
progress
report.
This
is
where
we
will
show
every
single
recommendation.
E
We
will
look
at
all
of
the
data
and
documentation
that
supports
the
implementation
of
those
recommendations
and
then
we'll
make
our
assessment
and
that
will
be
available
in
detailed
form
likely
in
a
spreadsheet
form.
We're
not
going
to
expect
everybody
to
go
through
that
darn
spreadsheet.
It's
hard
and
kind
of
very
intensive
work
to
do
so.
We'll
also
prepare
a
brief
executive
summary,
probably
a
couple
of
pages,
so
that
folks
can
get
a
summary
without
having
to
spend
hours
in
there.
E
We
see
our
stakeholders
in
terms
of
these
groups
below
the
most
important
one
is
right
in
the
middle
there
in
green
and
that's
the
general
public,
especially
citizens,
citizens
and
Business
Leaders
in
Charleston,
the
City
of
Charleston.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
view
our
key
clients
as
being
the
citizens
of
the
city.
Certainly
businesses
are
important
too,
and
so
we
want
to
listen
to
Business
Leaders
as
well,
but
that's
our
number
one
constituent
group,
our
number
one
stakeholder,
our
key
client.
E
Of
course
we
need
to
answer
to
the
mayor
and
the
City
of
Charleston
Public
Safety
Committee.
We
know
that
other
City
departments
are
interested
in
our
work
and
the
outcomes
here,
because
there's
such
interplay
between
all
of
those
City
departments
and
then
we
have
a
responsibility
to
the
Charleston
Police
Department
Command
Staff.
We've
worked
with
many
of
them.
E
I
see
that
DC
walkers
on
the
call
tonight
and
I
can
assure
you
that
he
will
have
many
questions
for
us
and
will
require
a
great
deal
of
detail
in
terms
of
our
reporting
and
then
there's
also.
You
know
you
folks
may
be
aware
that
Charleston
is
being
closely
watched,
just
as
North
Charleston
is
because
Charleston
was
among
the
first
to
do
a
voluntary
assessment
of
racial
bias
in
the
department.
There's
been
others
that
have
done
this,
but
most
of
the
assessments
of
racial
bias
have
come
as
a
result
of
consent.
E
Decrees-
and
that's
not
the
case,
so
we
want
to
be
sure
to
share
what
we
learn
with
other
Allied
law
enforcement
agencies
across
the
country
real
quickly.
Let's
go
to
the
last
section.
Jill,
yeah
and
I'll
just
hit
these
real
quickly
and
we'll
go
to
the
go,
go
to
Charlton.
So
a
detailed
progress
report
on
each
recommendation.
E
That's
the
first
and
we're
gonna
submit
that
to
the
mayor
and
the
Public
Safety
Committee
for
each
area
of
assessment,
we'll
talk
about
wherever
Improvement
is
possible,
with
the
goals
listed
and
we're
going
to
try
to
provide
some
additional
actionable
recommendations,
and
these
could
be
everything
from
program.
Refinements.
E
New
strategies
or
resource
reallocation
will
provide
a
final
report
on
the
status
of
recommendations,
and
this
will
be
in
a
format
as
prescribed
by
the
city,
electronic
and
in
hard
copy,
and
that
will
become
the
property
of
the
City
of
Charleston
and
release
to
the
public
at
large.
We'll
make
a
presentation
to
the
command
staff
and
the
public
after
the
release
of
the
progress
report
and
we
plan
to-
and
this
is
the
directive
from
the
chief
to
deliver
the
findings
to
the
community
in
a
way
that's
accessible
and
designed
to
enhance
trust
and
transparency.
E
That's
an
underlying
goal
for
everything
that
we
are
doing.
Sorry
I
was
a
little
long,
more
long-winded
than
I
thought
there.
But
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
now
toss
it
to
Charlton
to
go
over
briefly
a
schedule
of
events
when
he
first
developed
this
calendar.
We
took
a
look
at
it
and
it
was
way
too
detailed
for
a
presentation
like
this.
So
this
is
a
summary
of
events,
so
Charlton
the
floor
is
yours,
sir.
J
Excellent,
thank
you
Bob
all
right,
as
we
can
see
here.
If
you
look
at
the
leftmost
column,
labeled
phase
you'll
see
that
the
different
dimensions
of
this
project
that
Bob
went
over
earlier.
So
we
had
the
Fidelity
assessments
and
subject
matter
review.
We
also
have
stakeholder
engagement
and
final
reporting,
so
we
can
get
into
some
more
specific
dates
with
the
other
columns.
J
So
in
this
first
Fidelity
assessment
section,
we
have
been
engaged
in
data
requests
and
we
have
been
reviewing
doing
conducting
our
initial
review
of
the
police
department's
internal
audit
recommendation.
Tracking
spreadsheet
we've
also
been
reviewing
other
relevant
documents,
such
as
their
10-year
strategic
plan,
their
annual
reports,
as
well
as
other
documents
and
presentations
such
as
general
orders,
for
example,
presentations
given
to
CPAC
that
have
come
up
in
our
staff
interviews,
so
we
are
still
engaged
in
the
state
of
request
phase
we
have
been.
I
J
Well,
as
Captain
Bruder
just
yesterday
regarding
motor
vehicle
stops
going
on
down,
we
still
have
a
few
more
of
those
scheduled
on
Personnel
practices,
training
and
we
might
do
conduct
some
follow-up
interviews
if
we
need
to
once
we
kind
of
digest
the
content
from
these
initial
staff
interviews.
If
we
have
any
additional
data
requests,
we
will
conduct
those,
and
if
we
have
any
additional
questions
that
need
answering
or
concerns,
then
we
will
conduct
a
second
round
interviews
if
needed.
J
J
The
meeting
is,
is
frequently
used
for
for
board
and
commission
meetings
and
I.
Imagine
some
of
you
actually
I
know.
Some
of
you
have
been
I've
been
in
meetings
with
some
of
you
in
that
in
that
venue,
so
it's
easily
accessible,
it's
a
relatively
centrally
located
on
the
peninsula,
so
that
meeting
the
purpose
of
that
meeting
is
not
too
dissimilar
from
this
one.
J
That's
to
have
an
opportunity
for
us
to
present
our
assessment
plan
to
community
leaders
and
to
gather
feedback
and
listen
to
and
address
any
concerns
that
will
be
slightly
larger
than
this
meeting.
We've
invited
some
neighborhood
presidents
and
some
religious
leaders
and
other
community
leaders
as
well.
J
So
we
will
subsequently
be
conducting
so
yeah
so
Bob
mentioned.
You
know
our
are
alluded
to
our
mixed
methods.
Approach
for
this
phase.
You
know
we're
trying
to
gather
quantitative
data.
With
the
survey
we
mentioned.
You
know
we
will
be
hoping
to
get
as
large
and
as
representative
a
sample
as
possible.
With
that
survey,
we'll
get
hopefully
glean
some
robust
quantitative
data
from
that.
J
We
will
also
conduct,
as
you'll,
see
from
the
second
row
to
the
bottom.
There,
a
zoom
Forum
with
a
law
enforcement
leaders
from
similarly
situated
cities.
There
are
other
cities
who
have
conducted
assessments
of
racial
bias,
audits,
and
so
we
plan
to
gather
feedback
and
advice
and
compare
notes
with
leaders
from
similarly
situation
situated
cities
with
that
very
bottom
row
there
we
can
see
the
first
public
forum
and
we
can
go
ahead
and
start
scrolling
down
a
little
bit
so
that
we
can
have
a
little
bit.
J
J
The
second
public
forum
will
be
a
little
over
two
weeks
later.
If
you
skip
down
two
rows,
you
see
week
of
5
22
that
will
be
public
forum
number
two
that
one
will
be
located
in
West
Ashley,
most
likely
the
gym
at
the
high
school
that
one
for
that
one.
We
are
planning
a
Saturday
morning
Forum,
so
that
will
give
us
Geographic
diversity
between
the
peninsula
and
West
Ashley.
J
It
will
give
us
diversity
in
terms
of
time
of
day,
which
will
hopefully
make
it
more
accessible
to
individuals
who
might
have
a
variety
of
work
schedules.
You
know
some
folks
have
nine
to
fives
and
are
off
on
weekends.
Some
folks
might
be
working
on
weekends
and
so
we're
trying
to
capture
as
much
of
or
make
it
as
accessible
to
as
many
folks
as
possible
in
that
manner.
J
Also
part
of
the
logic
behind
a
weeknight
and
Saturday
morning
would
be
that
you
know
the
the
business
Central
Business
districts
is
located
on
the
peninsula.
To
the
line
of
thinking
is
that
perhaps
more
people
will
already
be
on
the
peninsula
on
a
weeknight.
So
therefore,
that
might
be
a
logical
location
for
a
weeknight
forum.
J
That
survey
is,
is
being
the
instrument
is
being
created
by
CPD
and
CPAC,
as
we
can
see
there,
and
we
intend
to.
Of
course
you
know.
We
hope
to
make
this
also
as
accessible
as
possible,
and
by
do
yes,
and
so
we
you
know,
are
exploring
how
we
can
maximize
the
number
of
folks
who
are
able
to
participate
in
the
survey
moving
on
down
to
the
bottom.
J
I
I
H
F
I
think
that
would
be
if
we
still
have
that
or
if
there's
a
way
that
we've
got
some
new
members
on
CPAC
now.
So
if
you
have
email
addresses
for
community
members,
not
Community
leaders
but
community
members,
that
when
we
want
to
advertise
the
forums
that
we
can
send
that
information
out
as
well
or
when
we
email
the
invite
for
the
forums,
then
maybe
CPAC
members
could
send
to
constituents
in
the
areas
that
you
represent
to
help
to
ensure
widest
dissemination
of
information
and
inclusion.
F
That
would
help
tremendously
and
I,
don't
with
Aryan
with
harp.
If
we
could
get
Aryan,
if
you
would
get
us
your
give
me
your
email
address,
when
you
call
me,
then
we
can
make
sure
sharing
that
information
with
you.
You
push
it
out
to
all
of
your
contacts
as
well,
because
we
definitely
need
widest
dissemination
to
be
able
to
glean
greatest
information
in
developing
the
products.
E
You
Jill
I
I
think
we
could
go
on
and
talk
for
more
time,
but
I
don't
think
that's
what
we
need
to
do
now.
I
think
we've
got
about
15
minutes
left
on
the
hour
and
I'd
like
to
hear
questions
or
comments
from
all
the
folks
that
we've
got
on
the
on
the
zoom
tonight.
So
if
you
would
moderate
that
please
we'd
be
happy
to
try
to
respond.
E
B
A
K
I
I
once
started
with
learning
that
Miss
Fielding
would
be
Council.
Councilwoman
Fielding
is
a
part
of
this,
and
that
really
made
me
feel
a
lot
better,
because
I
was
wondering
who,
in
the
terms
of
the
diversity
of
of
the
leadership
of
this
project,
who
might
be
me
apart,
I
mean
I
understood
just
based
upon
my
little
research
that
it
was
largely
white
males.
K
K
E
So
we
did
that
in
a
group
setting
in
specific
regard
to
Personnel,
Recruitment
and
recruitment
of
a
diverse
Department
goes
hand
in
hand
with
retention,
so
we
learned
of
Sergeant
Gibson,
so
we
went
to
that
level.
At
this
point,
sir,
we
do
not
have
plans
to
open
it
up
to
all
Patrol
officers
or
officers
at
the
Team
level.
E
L
Good
evening
I
participated
in
a
another
group
that
was
sponsored
by
the
police
department
under
Mullins
and
I,
wanted
to
make
a
recommendation.
If
you're
going
to
have
a
forum
for
the
community
that
we
do
not
have
like
the
round
table
type
Forum,
where
you
have
groups
of
people,
but
at
each
table
we
had
to
put.
L
F
We
have
been
councilmember
Matt.
We
have
been
talking
about
not
just
the
format
for
the
Forum
but
the
location
and
ensuring
that
no
one
feels
intimidated.
Policemen
will
not
be
there
we'll
be
in
try
to
orient
the
spaces
so
that
there'll
be
sufficiency
for
folks
to
feel
comfortable
in
talking
and
to
be
able
to
capture
the
information.
But
the
goal
is
not
to
have
anybody
present.
Who
would
give
the
feeling
to
those
in
attendance
and
those
being
vocal
that
their
comments
will
be
there'll,
be?
F
Have
some
retribution
come
on
them
from
it
and
I?
Remember
what
you're
talking
about
too
we
a
matter
of
fact:
I
talked
with
Bob
about
Ann
Charlton
about
different
locations,
because
it
really
needs
to
be
a
large
enough
space
so
that
everybody
gets
enough
opportunity
to
speak
as
they
would
like
to.
So
that
could
be
I
think
when
we
were
at
Burke
school,
it's
back
in
councilman,
Mitchell,
Robert
Mitchell
was
there,
it
was
too
tight
and
everyone
didn't
get
a
chance
to
speak
and
brainstorm,
get
their
ideas
captured.
F
We're
also
talking
about
having
a
way
to
capture
the
information.
So
maybe
we'll
look
at
possibly
and
I
haven't
talked
this
with
Charlton,
yet
but
possibly
index
cards
so
that
people
can
write
down
whatever
the
concerns
are
and
we
can
put
them
in
a
beneficial
suggestion
box.
You
know
so
those
who
don't
feel
comfortable
standing
up
and
talking.
F
They
could
at
least
write
down
their
concerns
on
index
individual
index
cards
and
drop
them
in
and
we
can
get
those
index
cards
and
record
those
information
that
information
as
presented
and
then
it
wouldn't
have
a
name
on
it.
You
know,
and
no
one
would
know
who
put
it
in
there.
So
retribution
wouldn't
be
a
concern.
E
Yes,
in
in
more
casual
conversations
with
members
of
the
community,
they've
told
me
without
a
doubt
that
they're
not
going
to
feel
comfortable
with
officer
sitting
next
to
them
talking
about
these
issues.
So
we've
heard
your
concerns
and
we're
going
to
take
steps
to
keep
everybody
safe
at
these
meetings
but,
most
importantly,
to
provide
a
safe
space,
so
people
are
comfortable
in
speaking
freely
or
writing
freely
and
anonymously.
M
M
That's
one
question
second
question
the
spreadsheet
that
you're
doing
are
you
using
utilizing
the
format
or
the
categories
of
the
way
in
which
the
department
has
on
this
website
the
audit
tracking
system?
Is
it
something
else
that
you're
going
to
use
and
can
I
would
suggest,
as
you
share
that,
if
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
could
talk
about,
we
may
be
helpful
to
make
sure
that
that's
rescue
that
you're
working
on
ultimately
gets
to
a
product
that
can
be
can
be
used
and
made
public
the
CNA
audit.
M
As
part
of
the
process,
the
department
had
listed
the
the
contract,
the
schedule
and
interim
reports
I,
don't
know
whether
or
not
that
you
and
the
department
have
talked
about
I
would
think
the
schedule
the
goals
Etc
would
be
good
to
have
so
on
the
city's
website.
There
is
a
racial
bias.
Audit
section
this
information
should
be
added
to
that.
M
I
Oh
I
was
I
was
gonna
answer
the
the
first
one.
Oh,
that's
what
I
want
to
turn
my
camera
on
with
the
with
respect
to
to
the
data?
We
will
analyze
what
what
data
that
we
can
and
what
data
is
available.
At
this
point,
we
have
made
requests
for
data
sets
on
traffic
stops
uses
of
force,
complaints
am
I
missing
anything
Bob's
or
one.
I
But
yes,
sir,
we
are
looking
at
that
data
and
planning
to
to
go
through
that
data
and
and
produce
some
analyzes,
depending
on
what
that
data
is
capable
of
for
the
the
second
question
on
the
spreadsheet.
Bob
might
have
more
detail
on
it,
but
our
plan
is
We're,
not
gonna
go
with
the
complete
versus
not
complete
type
of
scale.
E
No,
we
have
not
created
that
structure,
yet
Mr
Harris,
but
we're
open-
and
you
know
we
think
we've
got
a
great
partner
and
Tuan
and
she
can
recommend
some
ideas
here.
You
know
we're
really
just
at
the
beginning,
although
this
is
a
quick
project,
we're
really
talking
about
12
weeks,
maybe
a
few
more,
but
we
didn't
really
start
in
in
full
until
March,
31st,
so
I
think
your
question
is
a
good
one,
but
I
don't
have
a
specific
answer
for
you.
Yet,
sir.
M
E
Know
again
not
on
the
agenda
yet,
but
we're
listening
in
this
meeting
and
if
that's
something
that
we
can
do
reasonably
effectively
with
Jill
and
her
colleagues
at
CPD,
we'll
we'll
figure
out
a
way
to
get
it
done.
Yes,
sir.
We
want
to
have
the
data
out
there
too.
Keep
in
mind,
though,
that
we
can't
really
report
out
any
findings
until
we're
at
the
end.
You
know
in
June,
late
June.
B
B
F
So
that
really
is
a
part
of
the
reason
for
the
kickoff
to
explain
much
like
what's
going
on
today
with
the
meeting
with
CPAC
and
then
ask
for
some
beneficial
suggestions
so
that
it
will
be
a
comprehensive
event
so
and
Paul.
If
you
know
contacts
if
you
would
send
those
to
me,
that
would
help
tremendously
I'll.
F
N
E
Yes,
thank
you,
sir.
We
appreciate
your
volunteering
there.
We
know
that
this
is
a
need,
we're
not
sure
how
great
the
responsibility
from
our
Hispanic
neighbors,
but
we
certainly
want
to
listen.
I
know
that
there's
fear
in
many
communities,
but
particularly
in
the
Hispanic
community
of
speaking
of
freely.
So
we
want
to
set
up
again
the
safe
environment,
where
they
can
speak
in
their
natural
tongue
in
a
way
that
they
can
be
heard
as
well.
E
G
Okay,
great
I
want
to
go
back
and
request
contact
information
for
each
member
of
the
CPAC
group.
I
do
not
have
that
information,
and
so
I'm
happy
to
hear
from
councilman
Fielding
about
the
index
cards,
questions
and
also
to
put
a
time
limit
on
the
speakers
I've
set
through
City
Council
meetings,
where
they
were
three
hours
long
and
they
would
come
back
and
say
the
same
thing
over
and
over
and
over
next
person.
Next
person,
so
maybe
mention
everybody
that
agrees
with
this.
Please
raise
your
hand.
G
A
B
Okay,
the
only
thing
I
want
to
do
I
want
to
thank
everybody.
I
know,
Suzanne
Hardy
from
Cajun
had
had
asked
to
speak
at
the
beginning
and
I
think
she
got
tied
up
in
not
being
recognized.
I
guess,
for
it
was
how
her
phone
was.
So
you
know,
I
want
to
be
fair
enough
to
give
her
the
minute
that
we
offered
her
at
the
beginning.
So
Suzanne
I'm
going
to
give
you
the
minute
and
you
can
come
off
of
you-
go
ahead.
C
I'll
just
provide
I
left
you
all
with
a
number
of
questions.
Let
me
just
provide
you
know
where
we
are
from
a
kachem
standpoint.
Over
five
years
ago,
we
called
for
and
fought
for
this
racial
bias
audit,
because
black
members
of
our
community
were
being
stopped
and
arrested
at
three
times
the
rates
of
white
people,
which
you
all
know.
We
knew
that
our
shared
goal
with
CPD
for
a
safer
Community
was
directly
impacted
by
the
distrust
that
existed
between
us
So.
C
Today,
we're
continuing
to
press
for
learning,
action
and
accountability
from
the
racial
bias
audit,
so
that
the
disparities
are
driven
down
significantly
and
that
public
trust
will
grow
behind
the
transparency
and
collaboration
with
CPD.
We
want
a
different
relationship
with
our
police
department
and
I'm
speaking
for
our
community
different
than
what
we've
had
and
we're
committed
to
be
here
and
to
stay
here
to
make
that
happen
and
that
spirit,
I
provided
a
number
of
questions
about
the
assessment,
some
of
which
have
been
answered
today
and
also
about
the
audit
recommendations
themselves.
Again.
C
B
Thank
you,
Suzanne,
and,
and
thank
you
everybody
else
for
for
coming
I.
You
know
we're
going
to
limit
this
to
an
hour.
We
appreciate
your
time.
We
appreciate
your
involvement
like
anything
else.
This
is
a
kick
off
we're
not
one
meeting
in
done.
You've
you've
now
triggered
all
of
us
to
want
to
participate
and
you're
going
to
hear
from
us,
because
this
is
our
mission.
You
know
you're
you're
on
a
contracted
Mission
we're
on
a
lifetime
mission
to
get
this
done,
because
this
is
our
community.
B
We
volunteer
to
be
a
part
of
this
and
that's
the
mission
of
CPAC.
So
you
know
I
really
encourage
all
CPAC
members
to
get
the
contact
information.
Don't
just
wait
for
a
CPAC
communication.
You
know
I'd,
really
recommend
that
you
reach
out
to
Kyle
Bob
one
their
entire
team
one-on-one.
When
you
have
thoughts
when
you
have
ideas
and
be
patient
and
understanding
we're
just
one
group
of
people
giving
them
input
and
feedback,
yeah
I
know
we,
we
can
be
a
squeakier
wheel
than
most
but
be
involved.
B
You
know
be
involved
as
much
as
you
can
get.
The
feedback
and
I
always
feel
that
their
final
presentation
shouldn't
be
a
surprise
to
us
if
we're
involved
along
the
way
we
should
know
what's
coming
because
we've
been
there
Bob.
Thank
you
for
including
us
I
encourage
your
team
to
get
our.
You
know
from
Tuan,
whether
three
Twan
or
directly.
B
You
know
you
see
our
interest
reach
out
to
us,
we're
very
useful
tools
and
we're
here
to
supplement
tawan's
involvement
as
well,
because
we're
community
members,
none
of
us,
are
Community
leaders,
we're
community
members
and
we're
the
most
valuable
people
all
right.
Thanks
everybody
Jill
again,
thank
you
for
facilitating
this
I'd
like
to
thank
the
public
and
everybody
that
came.
B
Your
interests
only
motivates
the
police
department
CPAC
and
everybody
involved.
That's
what
they
need
and
I
I'm.
So
glad
that
this
this
meeting
was
not
three
or
four
people.
The
more
people
that
are
here
is
the
more
encouraging.
So,
let's
work
towards
getting
these
forums
filled
up.
Cpac
members,
that's
your
responsibility!
You
know
our
job
is
to
engage
our
communities,
that's
why
we
represent
districts
and
the
mayor
in
helping
push
to
get
these
forms
filled
up
so
I'll
see
you
all
at
our
next
meeting.