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From YouTube: Citizen’s Police Advisory Council 4/06/2023
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Citizen’s Police Advisory Council 4/06/2023
D
All
right
good
evening,
everyone
I
I,
appreciate
you
joining.
My
name
is
Paul
Tamborino
I'm,
chairman
of
the
City
of
Charleston
citizens,
police,
advisory,
Council,
and
you
know
again
I'd
like
to
welcome
everybody
here,
especially
my
fellow
council
members.
So
it's
seven
o'clock,
I'm
gonna
call
the
meeting
to
order.
Let's
start
with
the
roll
call,
a
few
with
mind,
you
sure.
E
F
D
A
G
B
G
D
Okay,
perfect
all
right,
good
we've
got
a
core,
so
we
can
conduct
our
business
that's
great
to
have
so
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
I'd
like
to
first,
you
know:
welcome
our
newest
council
members,
a
little
bit
of
background.
We've
there's
been
a
big
push,
as
you
all
know,
to
ramp
up
membership
on
CPAC
and
start
to.
D
Yes
and
Frank,
they
submitted
their
resignations.
We
thank
them
for
their
time
and
their
service
and
then
at
the
last
couple
of
Council
meetings,
I
know
some
new
members
have
been
have
been.
You
know
confirmed
so
first
I
want
to
introduce
Harrison,
McIver
III
Harrison.
If
you'd
like
to
introduce
yourself
real,
quick,
please.
A
Good
evening,
as
he
mentioned,
Harrison
MacGyver
I,
my
wife
and
I
retired,
from
Memphis
Tennessee
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
I'm
a
Kamya
and
she's
a
Benya
so
and
she's.
We
found
this
community
to
be
a
place.
We
wanted
to
retire
and
live.
We've
truly
enjoyed
it
and
I
was
very
active
back
in
in
Memphis
I'm,
a
retired
attorney
they're
involved
in
Bar,
Association
and
other
activities
in
the
community
and
fraternal
and
religious
organizations
back
there.
A
So
coming
here,
I
wanted
to
get
involved
in
the
community
in
a
meaningful
way.
Given
that
I'm
commitment
to
justice
and
fairness
and
Equity
that
the
opportunity
might
present
and
through
our
contacts
with
the
mayor,
this
was
this
opportunity
was
presented
and
it
seemed
to
fit
within
my
values
and
the
things
that
I
would
want
to
see
achieve
in
uplifting
this
community
also
coming
from
Memphis
and
having
a
love
for
Memphis
and
have
seen
over
this
last
year.
Some
of
the
things
that
have
occurred
that
relate
to
policing
and
the
like.
A
It
really
punctuated
in
my
belief
that
the
community
and
relationship
with
with
the
police
department
should
be
a
goal
that
we
should
all
Aspire
and
coming
here
and
being
a
part
of
this.
This
group
really
makes
that
a
reality
for
me
based
upon
what
I've
learned
and
what
I'm
been
I
look
forward
to
learning
more
of
I.
Recently
last
night,
I
was
at
the
training
academy
and
and
got
a
great
overview
of
the
operations
etc
for
the
or
the
Memphis
Police
Department,
and
look
forward
to
participating
moving
forward.
A
D
All
right,
thank
you,
Harrison
and
you
know
I'll
tell
other
members
just
Vice
chairman,
Harris
and
I
met
with
Harrison
last
week,
and
just
just
like
what
you
heard,
we've
already
told
him
yeah.
It
sounds
like
we're
going
to
keep
you
busy.
So
everybody
down
here
knows
I'm
a
big
fan
of
voluntolding,
Saturday
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
how
I
got
my
job
was.
I
was
volatile,
so
we
look
forward
to
your
participation.
D
I
knew
that
one
of
our
you
know
just
so
everybody
knows.
Harrison
is
one
of
the
mayor
selections.
We
also
have
another
mayor,
selection,
Harry
and
Fernandez
I
think
he
was
planning
on
attending.
Maybe
he
wasn't
able
to
connect,
but
Aaron
Fernandez
is
another
one
of
our
new
council
members.
We
have
a
new
high
school
representative
to
join
Mo
you
and
his
name
is
Harry.
D
Mullen
Harry
did
tell
me
that
he
did
have
a
scheduling
conflict
tonight,
so
here's
an
excuse
from
attending,
but
he
was
real
excited
about
introducing
himself
to
you.
Also
I
I
told
him
he
can
do
that
at
our
next
meeting
and
then
our
our
newest
District
9
representative
is
Imaging
Thomas
and
she
has
left
it
looks
like
she's
connected
now.
Imogene.
Can
you
come
off
mute
and
introduce
yourself?
Please.
D
D
All
right,
she
may
not
have
a
microphone.
That's
fine,
we'll
move
forward.
Now.
What
we'll
do
is,
let
me
see
so
Jill
I
know
that
I
know
that
Marcus
McDonald
is
in
the
waiting
room.
Captain
McFadden.
Also
messaged
me
with
that
and
I
said,
go
ahead
because
we're
about
to
start
the
citizens
participation
so
Jill,
who
do
you
have
lined
up
for
Citizens
participation?
Please
now
before.
Let
me
just
say
this:
before
we
start
I,
we
allocate
10
minutes
for
Citizens
participation.
D
D
Right
and
well,
we
I
believe
he
sent
a
bunch
of
notes
through
words
a
little
include
or
through
the
participation
channel,
so
we'll
include
those
with
our
minutes.
I
also
received
Min
a
nice
long
letter
and
recap
for
Suzanne
Hardy
from
cajam.
We'll
also
include
those
with
our
meeting
minutes.
Please.
B
G
D
I
I
So
hopefully
with
the
the
new
members
that
we
received
and
welcome
aboard
so
good
to
see
you
all
that
you
will
be
as
intrigued
and
as
dedicated
as
we
have
been,
and
so
we
can
continue
to
doing
the
work
that
the
guidelines
have
assigned
us
to
do
and
again,
chairman
Tamborino
and
the
rest
of
the
council.
Thank
you
all
so
very
much
for
ensuring
the
recognition
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work.
D
F
Yeah,
it
was
fortunate
that
the
council
decided
to
take
our
recommendation
and
acknowledge
to
one,
but
they
had
they
talked
about
what
service
looked
like
and
what
it
meant
to
be
a
council
member.
So
it
made
it
very
easy
for
me
to
make
a
comment
during
public
comment
that
when
they
get
ready
to
appoint
somebody,
they
need
to
look
at
tawan
as
a
role
model.
So
we
got
two
bites
at
the
Apple.
D
That's
incredible
so
again,
thank
you
and
you
know:
Wonderful
recognition,
Mr,
McDonald,
I
know:
we've
passed
the
citizen
participation
period
but
looks
like
you
probably
lost
your
connection,
so
I'm
going
to
invite
you
to
address
us
as
you
requested.
One
thing
to
note
is
we
do
limit
the
each
cop
each
person's
comments
to
about
two
minutes?
So
you
know
the
floor.
Is
yours,
sir.
C
Oh
I
didn't
have
too
much
to
say
I
just
here
Aging,
for
you
know
more
transparency
and
accountability
in
regards
to
the
racial
bias
audit,
so
I'm,
just
here
listening
and
learning
and
I
think
after
this
meeting,
I'll
be
able
to
no
more
and
hopefully
have
some
outside
discussions
with
people
and
yeah
continue
fishing.
This
this
Mission
forward
would
like
to
speak
with
Joe
Edison.
C
D
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us.
Thank
you
for
being
open
to
to
hearing
us
right
and
I
know.
You
know,
Jill's
got
your
contact
information
and
can
certainly
reach
out
to
you.
She
also
has
our
contact
information,
so
you're
welcome
to
reach
out
to
any
member
all
members,
whoever
you
want.
I
know.
You
know
a
big
part
of
our
of
our
mission.
D
Just
so
you
know,
CPAC
is
exactly
that
is,
is
connecting
with
various
members
of
the
community
to
make
sure
that
not
only
are
we
learning
more
also,
so
it's
equal
parts,
learning
and
education
as
we
move
forward
through
this,
so
we'll
never
have
all
the
answers,
but
we're
always
striving
to
be
educated
to
find
those
alongside
members
of
the
community.
Just
like
we
are
so
thank
you
for
for
joining
us
all
right.
That
was
really
my
update.
D
I
think
as
we
move
forward,
we're
going
to
talk
about
I'll
have
some
comments
on
a
few
of
the
things
that
the
other
speakers
are
have
I
know
I
sent
around
an
invite
to
some
of
the
community
events.
I've
talked
with
Captain
McFadden
and
deputy
chief
Walker
about
the
importance
of
as
different
Community
things.
D
You
know,
initiatives
come
up
to
make
sure
that
we're
made
aware
in
enough
time
so
that
we
can
look
at
our
calendars
and
participate
that
also,
you
know,
I
really
impart
on
you
that
we
need
to
be
out
in
the
community
and
if
we're
not
having
neighborhood
meetings
and
things
like
that,
the
more
that
we
can
attend
these
different
things.
It
not
only
shows
the
community,
our
respect
for
them
and
our
willingness
to
be
engaged
and
be
a
part
of
it.
But
it's
also
it
gets
onto
our
Police
Department.
D
To
know
that
you
know
the
respect
is
mutual,
that
when
we
engage
and
we
participate,
they
respect
us
just
a
little
bit
more
and
are
more
than
it
I
think
it
increases
their
eagerness
to
work
with
us,
which
is
really
our
goal,
is
to
have
the
police
department
working
with
us
to
help
find
answers
to
the
questions
that
folks,
like
Mr
McDonald
have
so
I
mean
I
would
say
those
are
my
my
updates
as
general
again
I'll
have
comments
as
we
go
through
the
different
parts
of
the
agenda.
I.
A
D
Our
guy
our
guidelines,
don't
you
know
we
really
our
guidelines,
so
we
should
you
know
we
should
be
involved
right,
but
we
don't
have
any
set
number.
We
don't
have
any
set
thing.
I
know
in
the
past.
I
think
one
of
our
one
of
our
challenges
of
CPAC
is
probably
the
same.
Two
three
or
four
people
would
would
do
their
best
to
attend
and
we
we
wouldn't
get
as
much
participation.
So
that's
why
there
was
a
big
push
to.
A
D
Think
it
depends
on
the
occasion
in
some
of
the
events
that
we're
invited
to
they're
just
community-wide
just
more,
you
know,
there's
there's
not
a
speaker
that
gets
up,
there's
no
Central.
Sometimes
these
are
just
like
community
events
and
what
I
found
is
the
best
thing
to
do.
Is
cycle
around
and
introduce
yourself
and
once
you
do
you're
going
to
find
that
they're
going
to
talk
to
you
I
think
it's
important
to
make
sure
that
the
the
police
department
Representatives.
D
You
see
there
often
become
the
same
people,
because
that's
part
of
their
job
they'll
soon
recognize
you
and
when
they
do
they'll
also
start
introducing
you
to
the
different
people.
They
know
at
the
various
events
so
yeah,
it's
you
know
what
I
would
say
is
I'm,
not
you
know
like
Jerry
and
I
and
I
know
tuan's,
better,
we'll
say
hi
to
each
other,
but
we
don't.
We
don't
form
our
little
group
and
stand
there
on
the
side.
We
we
try
to,
we
say
hello
touch
base
and
then
we
we
all
fan
out.
D
D
Our
next
meeting
we'll
have
minutes
to
be
approved
all
right.
So
let's
move
forward
to
okay,
so
we
have
all
right.
So
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
in
our
last
meeting-
and
it's
been
an
ongoing
issue-
is
exactly
that
being
able
to
get
core
being
able
to
have
CPAC
members
who
are
still
able
to
engage
and
attend
our
different
meetings
and
participate,
and
you
know
I
always
know
that
you
know
when
you
volunteer.
Your
intentions
are
always
good.
Everybody's
got
great
intentions,
but
life
happens
and
some
people's
ability
to
serve.
D
You
know
it
diminishes
as
they
take
on
other
responsibilities.
It's
also
very
common,
especially
folks,
like
Jerry
and
Harrison
I'm,
sure
you're,
that
way,
I
know
Twan
and
Sarah
and
Doris
and
even
Emily
the
minute.
You
raise
your
hand
to
volunteer
for
one
you.
Your
name
gets
on
some
kind
of
list
and
they
come
to
ask
you
to
volunteer
for
every
single
thing
that
comes
down
the
pipe
and
you
guys,
your
volunteer
calendars
just
start
stacking
and
stacking,
and
then
it
becomes
a
conflict.
So
well,
we've
really
been
looking
to
do.
D
Is
we've
got
to
have
participation
on
here?
You
know
our
former
chair,
fielding
and
I
used
to
when
I
was
vice
chair.
We
used
to
talk
about
that
a
lot.
What
do
we
do?
We
tried
every
Outreach
to
members,
we
communicated
them.
We
communicated
various
ways,
did
everything
to
encourage,
but
the
sad
fact
is.
It
is
what
it
is
and
you
know
we
have
to
be
able
to
conduct
business
and
our
subcommittees
have
been
challenged
and
some
have
even
diminished
and
gone
away
because
we
didn't
have
enough
participation.
D
So
there's
been
a
giant
push
working
with
Steve
working
with
directly
with
the
council
members
directly
with
the
mayor
and
saying
listen.
This
is
what
we
need.
There
was
an
Outreach
to
the
members
that
have
not
been
able
to
participate
and
it
was
communicated
to
them
that
per
our
guidelines.
You
know
and
I
know
I
I
sent
this
around.
Everybody
should
have
that
in
their
agenda.
We
do
have
guidelines
for
CPAC.
That
says
there
are
terms
for
removal
for
somebody.
D
You
know
who
misses
three
or
more
meetings
with
you
know
as
long
as
the
the
council
votes
them
out,
so
I
reached
out
to
quite
a
few
of
those
people
that
have
missed
four
or
more
I
didn't
do
the
three
or
more
reached
out
to
them
and
I
asked
them.
Do
you
want
to
keep
participating
or
not
the
three
that
did
respond
indicated
their
thanks
and
they
did
resign,
and
we
talked
about
that
at
the
beginning.
D
The
two
that
I
haven't
heard
back
from
were
George
Palmer
and
Eduardo
Curry
great
great
guys,
both
of
them
they've
been
excellent
members
of
CPAC.
So
you
know
there's
nothing
detrimental.
But
at
this
point
you
know
as
a
member
of
CPAC
who
wants
to
get
business
done,
I
I,
you
know,
I
I
do
think
we
need
to
be
a
little
bit
more
forceful
in
enforcing
this
standard.
Now,
if
one
of
you
has
to
be
absent
and
you
you
know,
you've
called
in-
and
you
said,
listen,
I'm,
traveling
I'm
doing
this.
D
That's
fine!
But
you
know
when
we
don't
hear
from
you,
we
don't
hear
any
reason
why
you're
not
participating.
You
know
we're
just
left
to
wonder
so
yeah
we
do
have
you
know
we
do
have
that
on
the
agenda.
If
somebody
wants
to
make
a
motion,
you
know
as
chair
I
don't
want
to
make
the
motion,
but
if
there's
a
motion
to
let's
start
with
George
Palmer
has
missed.
As
of
the
last
meeting
five
consecutive
meetings,
is
there
a
motion
to
remove.
D
F
F
I
know
George
had
attended
the
academy,
I
guess
think
when
we,
when
we
went
through
the
academy,
George
was
a
participant
but
he's
not
been
able
to
attend
meetings
I
reached
out
to
him
also
to
try
to
recruit
him
to
the
policy
committee
and
without
a
response.
So
hopefully
he's
okay,
but
there's
not
been
communication,
so
I
think
that
this
motion's
in
order.
D
Seeing
none
I'll
bring
the
motion
to
a
vote
all
in
favor
of
removing
councilmember
George
Palmer
from
District
Six
for
absenteeism,
either
raise
your
hand,
give
your
thumbs
up
or
indicate
just
give
your
hands
up:
okay,
but
Jill.
If
you
would
count,
if
you
don't
have
video,
if
you
just
go
in
and
you
put
the
Plus
on
your
thing,
okay
and
against,
if
you're
against,
please
hold
up
your
hand,
your
thumb,
seeing
none
against
the
motion
carries
okay.
The
second
member
that
we
have
is
at
one
Miss
Grant.
J
D
G
D
D
Okay,
seeing
no
objection
the
motion
carries.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that.
What
we'll
do
is
we're
now
going
to
forward
that
information
to
the
various
council
members
to
let
them
know
that
they
have
vacancy
will
also
communicate.
You
know
I
will
personally
communicate
to
to
to
Georgian
Eduardo
again,
just
like
I
did
you
know
a
few
times
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks
to
let
them
know
that
this
motion
was
going
to
be
presented,
so
so
the
council
members
know
this
wasn't
blind.
D
They
did
receive
a
note
telling
them
that
this
would
be
on
the
agenda,
so
it
was
a
one-on-one
note
to
them
and
their
council
member
to
let
them
know
that
you
know
if
they
wanted
to
remain,
please
let
me
know
or
indicate
otherwise
that
didn't
happen.
So
this
won't
be
a
surprise,
but
I
will
communicate
formally
with
that
said,
Steve
I
know
you
want
to
give
us
an
update
on
other
membership.
D
H
We
have
council,
member
Boyd,
council,
member
Bowden
and
council
member
Waring
have
open
spots
and
I
believe
Jill
has
identified
at
least
one
Citizen
Academy
graduate
who
was
interested
in
serving
on
this
Council,
who
is
from
council
member
bowden's
district,
so
I
believe
that
person
is
being
considered
by
him.
I'm,
not
quite
sure
where
we're
at
with
the
others
who
vacancies
I
know
the
mayor
has
communicated
with
those
council
members
and
I
many.
You
know
a
while
back
had
actually
sent
an
email
and
made
a
phone
call
as
well.
So.
D
D
I
appreciate
that
all
right,
so
the
main
reason
yeah
one
of
the
main
things
Steve
wanted
to
talk
to
us
about
today,
is
when
the
topics
came
up
about
our
you
know.
Our
membership
and
our
participation
I
believe
the
mayor
advised-
and
this
has
been
a
little
while
back.
They
wanted
to
review
some
more
CPAC
guidelines.
D
H
Okay
and
I
I
sent
an
email,
I
think
Jill
sent
an
email
around
with
the
the
guidelines
and
the
proposals,
but
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
highlight
those
and
if
there's
any
questions
just
let
me
know
the
primary
purpose
of
us.
Looking
at
the
guidelines
again
was
again
this
problem
of
vacancies
and
positions,
participation
and
continuity,
and
so
we
wanted
to
look
at
the
guidelines
again
to
see.
If
there's
anything,
we
could
change
that,
would
you
know,
fill
those
vacancies
and
get
more
participation
on
the
on
the
council.
H
So
future
councils
will
will
understand
what
the
procedure
is
for
that
and
how
policies
are
reviewed
by
CPAC.
So
membership
is
on
page
two
and
three
of
the
current
guidelines.
We
looked
at
the
youth
representation
and
our
proposal
to
council.
Again
these
are
all
proposals.
These
aren't,
you
know
done
deals
yet
by
any
means.
H
I
originally
had
just
student,
but
Joe
pointed
out
to
me
that
one
of
the
police
academy
people
was
a
55
year
old
guy,
like
I,
was
who
was
who
was
in
college
so
that
wasn't
really
representative
of
the
use.
But
we
we
expanded
that
to
include
a
larger.
You
know
all
high
schoolers
and
all
undergraduate
college
students,
and
then
you
know
if
as
long
as
they're
connected
to
the
city
and
they
can
serve
the
three-year
terms
as
well
rather
than
a
year
and
the
reason
I
thought
that
would
be
beneficial.
H
Is
you
know
if
you're
only
serving
for
a
year
by
the
time
you
kind
of
get
up
to
speed
on
this
group,
then
you're
already
out
the
door,
and
then
we
were
starting
all
over
with
someone
new.
So
if
you're
interested
that's
it
yeah,
if
you're
interested
in
pain,
you
can
be,
you
can
be
on
there
for
longer.
We
changed
the
wording
police
101.
We
really
don't
have
a
police
101,
it's
the
Citizen
Police
Academy
and
we
took
out
ride-alongs
not
because
we
don't
want
people
to
do
ride-alongs.
H
But
it's
my
understanding
that
that's
part
of
the
Citizen
Police
Academy
program
is
the
ride-alongs
the
pool
of
potential
candidates.
We
put
a
provision
in
there
that
we
will
inform
council
members
of
graduates
of
the
citizens.
Police
Academy,
who
express
interest
in
serving
on
the
CPAC,
provide
that
list
to
council
members
and
the
mayor,
and
should
they
choose
to
to
choose
from
that
list?
H
That's
that's,
of
course
up
to
them,
but
I
think
that
would
help
with
the
participation,
because
if
you
have
a
person,
that's
expressing
interest
in
being
in
this
group
they're
more
likely
to
attend
the
meetings
and
and
do
the
other
things
that
are
required,
as
opposed
to
just
being
asked
by
someone
and
and
and
and
coming
onto
the
council
and
then
I
think.
The
most
important
thing
we
put
in
here
was:
if
a
council
member
after
30
days
from
receiving
notice
that
their
you
know,
appointment,
has
resigned
or
been
removed.
H
H
A
H
D
A
Go
ahead:
yeah
when
I
was
reading,
the
councilman
shall
know
to
be
notified.
I
I
was
a
little
confused
as
when
I'll
just
read
it.
Councilman
shall
be
notified
at
least
30
days
in
advance
of
the
exploration
of
their
appointing
appointments
term
or
immediately
shell,
their
appointment
resign.
It's
just
I,
don't
know
I.
Just
it
kind
of
threw
me
off.
I
know
what
you're
trying
to
say.
Maybe
I'm,
just
not
interpreting
it
as
a
as
intended.
A
G
A
D
Either
one
of
those
because
they
we
all
have
different
appointment,
dates
right
because
for
whatever
reason
people
came
off,
people
came
on.
So
it's
not
like
an
election
where
you
know,
okay,
we
all
started
on
November
1st,
and
so
they
all
know,
so
it's
really
letting
them
know
because
they
don't
keep
up
with
it.
D
In
fact,
one
of
the
things
that
I
ran
into
is
I
was
talking
to
a
couple
of
the
council
members
about
their
appointees,
not
participating
and
and
I
can
tell
you
that
council
member
didn't
even
know
they
had
an
appointee
on
CPAC
because
they
had
just
recently
been
elected,
and
so
they
didn't
they,
they
weren't
able
to
keep
up
with
all
the
different
Council.
You
know
these
little
committees
that
are
out
there,
and
so
they
were,
they
were
just
a
surprise.
They
they
didn't
know
who
their
representative
was
much
less
their
appointment
date.
D
A
I
Yes,
thank
you
chair
for
the
recognition
Steve
when
you
were
talking
about
the
training
that
we
did.
I
didn't
recall,
ride-alongs
being
included
in
that
unless
they
have
changed
it
and
have
added
ride-alongs
I
did
my
ride
along
separately
you're
early
on,
but
have
they
added
ride-alongs
down
to
the
training
yeah.
H
K
Was
not
so
pre-covered
vid
when
it
first
started
and
not
sure
how
many
sets
he
said,
I
believe
it
was
a
requirement
postcoded.
When
we
had
a
lot
of
transfers,
we
came
in
it
kind
of
we
had
gone
away
from
that
a
little
bit
and
then
we
have,
since
starting
last
year,
have
kind
of
made
it
a
made
it
a
requirement
again
that
we
asked
that
all
of
them
participate
in
the
ride-alongs
unless,
of
course,
there's
some.
You
know
reason
why
they
cannot.
K
F
Yeah
I
I,
you
know
the
the
notion
that
the
participation
in
the
academy
doing
the
ride
along
is
optional.
The
notion
that
we
I
think
that
we
should
require
that
council
members
participate
in
the
Ride
Along,
even
though
it
may,
because
they
cannot
opt
out
of
it.
So
I
just
think
it's
important
to
leave
it
in
I
would
drop
it.
K
D
Hey
I
agree
because
also
see,
if
you
look
at
the
timing
of
it-
and
you
know
this-
the
the
timing
of
the
first
six
months,
even
if
they
can't
get
into
the
class
because
it's
filled
or
they
missed
the
cut
off.
If
we
could
still
get
because
you
don't
need
to
be
a
graduate
Police
Academy
to
go
on
a
ride
along
any
citizen
can
do
that.
J
D
H
A
D
H
I
will
make
that
change.
We
had
we
had
in
here
about
the
facilitator,
and
those
of
you
have
been
on
from
the
beginning.
Remember
that
Reverend
Middleton
was
our
facilitator
for
for
a
number
of
meetings
in
the
beginning
and
I
think
that
was
just
kind
of
get
a
to
get
us
off
the
ground.
But
then
he
he
moved
on
to
to
other
things,
and
we
we
don't
have
a
facilitator,
but
I
I,
don't
know
that
we
need
one
I,
think
that
you
all
can
facilitate
yourselves
at
this
point.
F
Yeah
the
question
of
the
support
for
the
facilitation.
If
you
look
at
the
things
that
the
facilitator
was
supposed
to
do,
it
involved
some
training
and
some
other
other
activity,
and
it
was
not
simply
a
question
of
putting
helping
to
put
together
the
agenda
I'm
wondering
and
that
function
is
currently
well
as
it
evolved.
It
became
the
job
responsibility
of
the
director
for
procedural
Justice.
D
Yeah
I
agree
with
Jerry
my
time
on
here
we
didn't
the
Reverend.
Wasn't
there
we
had
Wendy,
you
know
served
in
that
role,
pretty
much
we
had
yeah.
Of
course
we
had
about
a
year
where
we
didn't
have
anybody
and
then
Jill
came
on
board
and
she
I
would
say
she
is
our
facilitator.
I
mean
I.
You
know,
I
I
think
that
role
is
important
as
to
have
and
it's
more
of
a
it's
a
facilitator.
D
It's
a
liaison
also
I
think
that
that
role
as
long
as
they
continue
to
have
you
know
Jill's
position.
You
know
that
that
role,
but
we
should
have
it
codified
somewhere
that,
let's
say
hypothetically
two
years
down
the
road
they
eliminate
that
role.
We
still
would
like
to
have
some
type
of
intermediary,
like
that.
D
D
The
committee
chair
takes
their
own
minutes
and
submits
them.
So
it's
a
little
bit
more
administrative.
Our
CPAC
meetings
are
typically
Mooring.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
more
people
there's
a
lot
more
to
keep
track
of.
So
it's
always
good
to
have
a
third
party
who's,
not
participating
in
the
discussions.
Who's
taking
notes
the
whole
time.
The
facilitator
role
that
that,
like
what
Jill's
doing
is
more
of
not
only
between
meetings.
D
You
know
during
meetings,
we
get
you
share
specific
reports,
but
between
meetings,
she's
kind
of
our
you
know
a
sheep
herder,
sometimes
and
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
but
helps
us
with
our
agenda,
helps
us
get
the
notes
moving
as
a
communicator,
she'll
Express
us,
you
know,
the
different
people
in
the
police
department
will
do
that
Captain
McFadden.
Will
she
communicates
what
she
wants
with
us?
You'll
see
a
lot
of
communications
from
Captain
critella.
D
F
D
I
would
recommend
that
you
do
is
keep
the
section
facilitator
and
you
know
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
specifically
reference
director
of
procedural
Justice,
because
again
that
position
may
go
away.
You
know.
So
somehow
you
can
word
that
because
we
we
do
need
that
conduit,
yeah
I
think
that's
yeah.
B
Yeah
I
just
so,
there
is
some
language
in
the
current
document
that
says
the
chief
of
police
or
his
designee
and
there's
there's
other
references
to
the
designee
of
the
chief
of
police.
So
I
don't
know
if
expanding
you
know
that
reference
to
these
other
areas
of
facilitation
might
be
adequate,
but
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
D
I
would
just
copy
I
would
just
use
that
you
know
copy
that
language
just
in
the
facilitator,
type
role
that
the
chief
or
his
designee
right,
which
is
something
that
mentions
that
we
we
want
that
we
do
want
that
type
of
liaison.
You
know
we
don't
need
them
necessarily
for
mentoring,
but
it
is
good
having
that
person.
That
knows
who
we
should
talk
to,
and
we
can't
put
that
burden
on
captain
mcfaddener
or
Captain
critella.
You
know,
I
just
think,
that's
that's
putting
one
burden
on
an
individual
like
that.
D
H
D
D
H
H
H
See
if
I
can
share
a
screen,
can
you
all
see
that
it's
coming
up
yep
there?
It
is
okay,
so
procedurally
I
talked
with
with
Julia
Copeland
who's,
a
Corporation
Council
as
to
how
this
would
work,
and
my
understanding
is,
you
all
would
vote
on
these
and,
if
CPAC
as
a
whole
wanted
to
recommend
these
to
the
mayor,
then
I
would
take
them
to
the
mayor,
and
we
would
we
would
look
to
incorporate
them
if
that's
what
he
wanted
to
do.
Okay,.
D
F
F
My
signal
was
was
fading
out,
so
these
recommendations
came
from
various
conversations
that
I've
heard
us
go
in
and
out
on
the
first
one,
the
requirement
of
CPAC
to
present
to
city
council,
and
it's
in
this
case
Steve
is
put
in
the
Public
Safety
Committee
and
they
had
to
report
when
activities
and
recommendations
just
to
make
sure
that
we
we
have
an
annual
reporting
it.
We
don't
have
to
just
do
it
annually,
but
more
frequently.
D
Yeah
the
reason
why
we're
putting
that
so
everybody
knows
is
I,
I,
guess,
I,
don't
know
you
know.
If
Council,
you
know,
councilmember
Fielding
felt
this
while
she
was
chair,
but
you
know,
unless
we
proactively
really
pushed
ourselves
back
to
the
city
council
they're,
really
not
reaching
back
out
to
us
for
feedback
or
anything
else,
and
this
will
be
that
formal
communication
to
ensure
that
that
that
that
information
flow
is
happening.
F
D
Right
and
it's
just
so,
especially
for
our
new
council
members,
you
know
we've
really
pushed
this,
isn't
anything
new
we've
really
pushed
I
know
under
council
members
Fielding
when
she
was
chair,
really
pushed
us
to
make
sure
that
we
were
calling
writing
emailing
and
giving
updates
on
a
regular
basis
to
make
sure
our
council
members
knew
what
we
were
doing
and
I
think
we
just
want
to
codify
that
a
little
bit
more
Jerry.
You
missed
number
three
reference
to
GEOS,
which
outlined
the
roles.
C
I
D
F
D
We
have
that
in
our
guidelines,
I
think
what
we
do,
I
guess
remember
guidelines
are
that
that
high
level
requirement,
then
we
get
into
the
working
rules
that
say:
okay,
you
know
copy
copy
the
chair
in
your
community
or
give
us
a
summary
if
you've
got
a
phone
call,
you
know
when
you're
done
with
that
connection,
send
a
summary
of
that
communication
back
to
CPAC.
So
we
can
record
that
you
know
with
our
official.
You
know.
D
I
And
that
is
a
way
to
do
it.
Some
time
ago,
a
pre-covid
we
used
to
go
around
the
table,
we
were
meeting
in
person
and
we
would
go
around
the
table
and
each
person
would
say
whatever
they
wanted
to
provide
in
respects
to
their
District
or
to
their
appointment.
Maybe
you
could
you
can
consider
adding
like
a
good
in
welfare
or
for
the
good
of
the
order
on
the
agenda,
maybe,
and
those
who
have
communicated
and
want
to
share
something
can
share
it
at
that
time
as
well.
That's
just
another
option.
A
Yeah
go
ahead,
given
this
is
election
season
is
coming
coming
up
upon
us
for
the
mayor's
position
we
did
access
to
him.
Would
that
be
and
Steve?
Maybe
we
can
speak
to
that?
Would
we
be
able
to
have
meet
with
the
mayor
since
I'm
an
appointed
to
the
mayor?
Would
that
be?
Can
that
be
facilitated,
or
would
that
be
a
challenge.
H
A
D
Think
that
can
be
facilitated.
I
can
tell
he's
a
civilian
he's,
he's
pretty
you're
going
to
find
he's
pretty
open
to
meeting
with
us.
In
fact,
if
we
invited
him
in
most
cases,
if
we
invited
him
to
come
to
this
meeting,
you
know
I
want
to
invite
him
to
come
to
everyone
just
because
I
know
he's
busy,
but
if
we
had
something
on
the
agenda
for
him,
he's
always
been.
You
know:
okay,
pretty
open
and
he'll
yeah
they're,
all
they're.
F
A
D
You
and
I'm
not
a
marital
appointment.
He's,
you
know,
I
was
just
a
regular,
just
regular
Joe
and
he
you
know
he
was
willing
to
meet
with
me
about
a
concern.
So
he's
pretty
good
about
that.
So,
council
members,
if
any
of
you
ever
need
you
know
if
it's
speaking
to
the
chief,
the
Chiefs
normally
on
our
calls.
Without
you
know,
we
don't
need
a
special
invite
for
him,
he's
always
on
our
calls.
D
D
You
know
these
These
are
government
members
here,
whichever
side
of
the
political
Spectrum
you're
on
they're,
pretty
good
about
being
accessible,
I
will
give
them
that
so
as
long
as
we're
polite
enough
to
give
them
notice
and
we
don't
conflict
and
we
try
and
keeps
us
does
the
best
you
can
to
keep
our
meetings
from
conflicting
with
City
Council
meetings
so
that
if
that
ever
came
up
we
know.
That's
not
happening
right,
Jerry.
F
Five.
Four
rather
referencing
the
role
of
CPAC
and
monitoring
the
police
department's
progress
in
implementing
the
racial
bias,
audit
and
recommendations
from
subsequent
assessments
when
the
guidelines
originally
written,
the
racial
bias
awarded
had
not
been
completed,
and
subsequently
the
department
in
describing
the
role
of
how
Community
engages
being
done
specifically
referenced.
References,
CPAC
and
I
just
thought
either
as
an
example
but
just
to
highlight
in
this
period.
F
D
Maybe
you
know
certain
limitations,
but
I
mean
it
editorialize
a
little
bit.
Why
it
bothered
me
realistically
and
I
know
this
won't
happen,
but
realistically
and
nothing
against
folks
on
Daniel
Island.
But
this
entire
group
could
be
residents
of
Daniel.
Islands
doesn't
necessarily
reflect
or
could
be,
everybody
could
be
resident
from.
You
know.
District
one
or
District
Five
and
the
whole
purpose
of
this
was
to
have
a
cross-section
of
the
entire
community
and
my
opinion,
nothing
against
any
individual
council
member
I'll
say
this
about
any
elected
official.
D
If
you
can't
find
one
person
in
your
District,
maybe
you're
not
communicating
enough
with
your
district
and
you're
not
in
tune
with
you
know
those
needs
happening
in
your
District.
So
that's
my
editorial
I'm,
not
saying
that
as
chair
I'm,
saying
that
as
just
a
regular
Joe
who,
when
I
look
at
that,
it's
stunning
against
anybody
for
suggesting
it
it
just
that
personally
bothered
me
I,
like
it
being
somebody
who's
who
can
come
to
this
meeting
and
talk
about
how
did
you
communicate
with
the
people
in
John's
Island
right?
D
If
that's
your
district
and
this
person-
that's
I'm,
not
speaking
that
specifically,
but
how
could
you
communicate
to
that?
If
you
live
in,
you
know
North
Charleston
or
you
live
in.
You
know
somewhere
else.
That's
just
my
that
was
my
opinion
on
that
recommendation.
Does
anybody
have
any
comments
about
that
for
or
against.
D
D
D
What
I
would
say
to
you
Steve
you,
you
kind
of
solve
that
with
your
recommendation.
If
they've
got
30
days,
then
it
goes
to
the
mayor.
The
mayor's
a
free-for-all
and
they've
seated
their
ability
to
have
I
mean
I,
don't
agree
with
it.
I
I,
you
know
I.
Just
still,
I
cannot
imagine
a
council
member,
not
knowing
his
people
well
enough
to
pull
one
person,
but
if
it,
if
they're
they're
turning
over
there
I
mean
I,
can't
ever
imagine
seating.
D
L
D
G
D
And
some
of
our
business
owners
in
that
District
they're
they're
more
vocal
than
the
residents.
Sometimes
it
depends
on
where
you
are
right,
all
right,
so
Jerry
those
are.
You
wrote
those
up
if
you
want
to
make
that
as
a
motion
now
guys
who
we're
doing
just
so
I
can
kind
of
explain
what
we're
doing
is
the
mayor's
office.
We
obviously
do
not
write
our
own
guidelines
so
yeah.
Let
me
let
me
stop
councilmember
Fielding.
I
D
D
I
I
Yet
so
we're
really
working
to
see
the
success
of
the
guidelines
that
were
proposed
that
initiated
the
council
and
I
was
only
concerned
about
six
months
to
ensure
that,
in
fact,
that
training
is
going
to
be
offered
every
six
months
or
twice
a
year
on
some
regular
frequency.
That
would
ensure
that
a
council
member
would
not
be
a
negatively
casted
upon.
K
And
September
we've
kind
of
nailed
down
those
dates
pretty
well,
so
April
and
May
is
our
spring
and
then
September
and
October
would
be
our
fall.
So
just
two
classes
a
year,
but
ideally
it's
not
full,
usually
until
about
a
month
going
into
the
class.
So
we
can
certainly
get
them
in
if,
if
they
didn't
get
into
one
of
them,
probably
yeah.
G
D
D
M
I
just
wanted
to
ask
about
the
age
requirement
for
the
ride-alongs,
since
we're
opening
up
the
high
school
on
representative,
like
spot
to
like
any
high
school
or
in
post
High
School
like
college
student,
I
read
my
14
in
some
places,
but
17
and
others.
So
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
that
everyone
would
be
eligible
to
participate
in
a
ride-along.
K
K
D
G
D
D
D
D
D
D
F
D
What
are
the
rest
of
you
think
I
think
I
mean
from
my
perspective,
I
think
it
almost
opens
the
door
for
people
to
to
go
older
and
older
and
older,
and
then
we
kind
of
miss
out
on
the
contributions
of
council
member.
You
know
Yamaguchi
came
in
younger
than
our
guidelines,
but
nobody
said
anything
because
you
know
what
she's
probably
been
one
of
our
best
members.
So
you
know
and
I
know
she
sat
next
to
me
at
the
police
academy.
She's,
you
know
if
you
want
to
look
for
a
model
you
know
mo.
D
You
go
stand
next
to
council
member
Fielding
because
you're
a
role
model
for
for
a
lot
of
people.
You
know
not
just
people
your
age,
but
my
age
right.
You
know
what
participation
is
all
about
for
those
of
you
that
don't
know
I'm
not
going
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
I
will
for
a
second
those
of
you
that
don't
know
when
we
attended
the
police
academy.
It
was
amazing.
It
was
during.
It
was
even
during
covid.
D
D
That's
a
role
model
for
me
because
I
know
I
felt
guilty.
If
I
wasn't
going
to
show
up
so
I,
you
know
I,
it
kind
of
changed
and
I'll
tell
you
Jerry
it
kind
of
changed.
My
opinion
somewhat
because
you
know
I
looked
at
well
they're
too
young
and
you
know
they're
in
high
school
and
what's
the
contribution.
That
was
my
initial
thought.
D
When
we
first
when
I
first
joined
CPAC
and
the
representation
not
only
did
did
did
council
member
Yamaguchi
attend
the
police
academy,
you
know
in
the
middle
I
mean
I'm
telling
you
in
the
middle
of
Cova,
there
was
a
U.N
Coalition
from
Africa
that
came
to
the
City
of
Charleston
and
wanted
to
meet
with
different
Civic
groups
and
I.
Think
CPAC
was
one
of
the
only
ones
that
was
in
actually
in
progress
and
she
and
I
went,
and
we
met
with
this
an
amazing
group
from
from
Africa
that
was
in
a
un
program.
D
She
was
the
first
one
to
volunteer
to
go
so
you
know
Jerry,
you
know
I'm
open
to
it,
but
I.
Just
my
opinion
is,
you
know,
I,
like
keeping
at
someone
on
the
younger
Edge,
but
I'm
fine
with
25,
too
I'm
gonna
open
it
up
to
the
floor.
What
do
all
of
y'all
think
is
we'll
need
to
we'll
need
to
reopen
your
motion
to
amend
it
or
that's,
that's
actually
new.
Well,.
F
I
Oh
and
and
chairman
Tamborino,
before
council
member
Yamaguchi
joined
us.
We
had
a
council
member
who
was
a
high
school
student
that
was
very
active
and
matter
of
fact,
as
a
result
of
his
activity
on
the
inaugural
Council.
He
asked
the
mayor
if
the
mayor
would
allow
him
to
be
one
of
his
appointees
as
a
college
student,
so
I
I
do
believe.
I
There
is
much
value
with
having
younger
members
high
school
students
on
the
council
because
of
the
sheer
involvement
that
they
have
in
their
communities
and
I'm
not
talking
about
where
they
live,
but
their
communities
of
their
peers.
And
so
we
were
able
to
capitalize
a
lot
on
what
they
were
thinking
from
their
age
group
and
their
familiarity
with
many
of
the
things
that
we
were
talking
about
at
the
time.
I
So
I
really
I
would
really
support
us
putting
an
age
of
maybe
15
or
16
whatever
it
is
for
junior
and
high
school
these
days,
because
we
were
looking
at
having
more
than
just
a
senior
because
a
senior
is
just
one
year
and,
like
you
said
in
the
beginning,
by
the
time
we
get
by
the
time
that
one
person
gets
acclimated,
it's
time
to
fall
off.
The
committee.
D
So
Steve
I
think
you
have
that
in
your
language
already
that,
on
the
young
end,
I
think
there's
a
discussion
on
the
high
end.
I
mean
that's
your
change
to
make
on
your
recommendations.
If
you
want
to
talk
that,
through
with
the
mayor,
I
think
I
think
we're
all
okay,
whether
it's
state,
21
or
if
I
went
to
25,
so
I
mean
guys
I.
Think
if
you
talk
him
through
that,
you
know
we're
happy
with
either
decision,
but
something
to
think
about.
Yeah.
H
Just
so
you
know,
I
mean
the
the
low
end
is:
is
any
high
school
student
so
conceivably?
You
could
be
a
freshman
yeah
and
be
on
this.
The
21
was
just
kind
of
arbitrary
because,
like
I
said
Jill
pointed
out,
you
could
have
a
55
year
old,
College
freshman,
so
we
wanted
to
put
some
make
sure
it
stayed
in
the
younger
crowd.
You
know
for
that
that
appointment,
so
okay.
D
We're
good
with
that
all
right!
So
next
on
the
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
take
a
break
in
the
gym
I'm
going
to
use
my
my
privilege,
one
of
our
newer
members,
has
joined
the
call
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
introduce
Arian
Fernandez
and
give
him.
He
looks
like
he's
wandering
through
the
hallway,
so
I'm
going
to
give
him
an
opportunity
to
walk
and
talk
to
the
same
time
to
see
how
qualified
he
is
to
be
on
here.
Aaron.
N
N
Yes,
sir
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Latino
advisory
committee
with
mayor
tecklenburg
I've,
been
helping
there
since
2020.
and
I
used
to
work
at
the
College
of
Charleston
and
now
I'm
working
for
CBE
is
I.T
Solutions
company
here
in
Latson
and
I
live
downtown
in
Charleston
and
I'm.
An
immigrant
originally
from
Argentina
and
I
lived
a
little
bit
in
Colorado
and
I've
been
in
this
area
since
2014..
N
D
D
What
I'm
going
to
do
is
probably
take
a
month
or
so
and
see
once
we
get,
you
know
kind
of
a
full
load
of
new
members,
we're
gonna
rejuvenate
our
existing
committee
subcommittees
and
we're
going
to
bring
to
life
one
of
them
that
died
and
we're
going
to
bring
back
a
couple
more.
That
I
think
it's
really
important.
We
have
and
I
know
it's
at
the
end,
but
we
there's
a
couple
of
pieces
of
our
guidelines.
D
We've
really
not
had
the
participation
to
get
involved
in
everything
and
a
couple
of
those
one
is
community
policing
and
the
other
one
is
the
complaint
process,
the
Police
Department
complaint
process.
We
speak
to
him
as
a
general
CPAC
in
passing,
but
those
really
should
also
be
subcommittees
that
are
strictly
focused
on
doing
that.
D
So
once
we
get
our
full
complement
of
our
members
who
all
have
promised
to
be
active-
and
you
know
and
I'm
not
saying,
you've
got
to
participate
every
week,
but
active
I
want
to
really
step
those
up
and
get
involved
in
those.
So
you
know
Aaron
just
get
your
get
your
you
got
your
walking
shoes
on
be
ready.
All
that
work
appreciate
that
okay,
so
next
I'm
gonna
turn
over
Captain
McFadden
for
the
community
engagement.
K
Okay,
I'm
just
gonna
start
with
some
very
specific
items.
This
is
covering
the
past
two
months,
I'll
go
specific
and
then
I'll
kind
of
go
broad.
So
some
very
specific
items
that
are
Outreach
officers
were
engaged
in.
So
we've
continued
with
presenting
at
the
senior
citizen
centers
the
wearing
Center
was
traffic.
K
And
information
on
common
violations
and
we
started
doing
presentations
on
getting
to
know
your
Patrol
team
and
who
they
can
contact
in
their
patrol
team.
So
we
kind
of
just
started
that
at
the
Lowcountry
Senior
Center
we've
continued
with
our
anti-bullying
basketball
games
against
the
high
schools.
We
played
one
today
against
Burke.
We
are
zero
and
two
and
they
are
wiping
us
on
the
court.
K
But
again
we
we
usually
have
a
message
a
time
to
speak
at
the
beginning
of
those
games.
Regarding
anti-bullying,
we
took
some
of
our
Scholars
from
the
Gathering
Center,
our
Center
in
Gadsden
Green.
In
February,
we
got
some
free
tickets
to
Charlestown.
Landing
took
them
out.
We
like
to
reward
our
Scholars,
who
show
up
on
a
frequent
basis
after
school,
the
ones
that
we
help
with
school
work.
So
we
like
to
reward
them,
and
you
know,
we've
taken
them
over
to
this
little
football
game.
K
Paul,
you've
kind
of
hosted
us
with
that,
we've
taken
them
to
a
basketball
game
and-
and
then
we
just
brought
them
over
to
Charlestown
Landing.
We
had
a
setup
at
seaweed,
engage
many
people.
Even
a
lot
of
people
were
interested
in
our
harm
reduction
kits
that
include
Narcan.
So
we
gave
out
some
of
those
we
attended,
the
HBCU
finale
at
Sanders,
Clara
Elementary,
that's
Lieutenant,
Mitchell
down
in
the
bottom
right
photo.
She
attended
Benedict,
College
and
she's
very
active
in
some
of
the
HBCU
presentations.
K
We
participated
in
operation,
neighborhood
cleanup
in
Ardmore,
and
then
we
did
we've
started
doing
a
lot
of
frequent
events
in
our
Bridgeview.
Neighborhood
historically
has
had
a
lot
of
violent
crime,
so,
as
kids
come
off
the
school
bus
and
meet
their
Guardian,
we
like
to
sometimes
pull
up
the
grill,
and
that
way
we
we
can
have
really
good
engagement
with
not
only
the
youth
but
also
adding
in
their
Guardian.
K
Then
we
also
fed
the
homeless
and
had
a
sock
drive
at
705
King
Street
and
participated
in
career
fair
at
Patterson's
Academy
attended
the
Burke,
High
School
College
and
Career
Symposium.
That's
your
bottom
left
picture
and
then
obviously
we
did
our
women's
build.
We
raised
some
funds
for
Habitat
for
Humanity.
That's
your
very
distorted
top
right
photo.
K
One
of
us
almost
got
knocked
out
by
by
a
tree,
but
we
all
survived
and
we
we've
started
doing
that
every
year.
That's
a
really
good
fun
internal
engagement
piece
for
us,
and
then
we
started
some
Easter
events
and
gave
out
some
bicycles.
Yesterday.
The
city
does
a
lot
of
Easter
events
that
we
participate
in
and
help
with.
K
We
have
one
officer
who
found
a
family
that
he
actually
drives
the
food
to
them
every
week
as
well,
and
we're
also
working
on
planning
a
health
awareness
event
in
the
future
kind
of
in
the
works
with
Charleston,
County,
Mental,
Health
and
also
other
vendors,
and
we
do
have
a
couple.
The
police
department
has
two
small
buses,
so
our
plan
is
to
probably
pick
up
some
people
that
can't
travel
to
our
event
and
help
them
get
to
that
event.
So
that's
kind
of
that's
look
out
for
that
in
the
future.
K
That's
in
the
works
we're
still
actively
engaged
with
serving
connect.
They
actually
applied
for
the
project
safe,
neighborhoods
Grant,
with
our
support
in
an
effort
to
assist
us
with
some
Community
engagement
programs
down
here
and
we
assisted
with
Super
Saturday,
that's
sponsored
by
The,
Hope
Center,
and
that's
where
the
Hope
Center
passes
out
a
lot
of
resources
and
information
for
those
in
need,
and
specifically
some
of
our
homeless
population.
K
So
we
continue
attending
the
chaplaincy
breakfast
once
a
month
and
do
some
fellowship
there
and
we
are
working
to
incorporate
and
develop
a
new
Outreach
Center
or
mentorship
Center
in
Waters
at
West
Ashley
complex,
that's,
formerly
Orleans
Gardens
in
West
Ashley.
Historically,
there
has
been
violent
crime
there
as
well.
K
So
we
are
still
engaged
with
our
youth
mentorship
program
that
we
start
at
CE,
Williams
North,
that's
every
Monday
and
it's
usually
discussion
and
sports
engagement
during
their
a
period
between
like
lunch
and
recess.
Of
course,
we
started
our
citizens,
our
police,
Citizens
Academy.
Last
night,
Mr
Harrison,
McIver,
Miss,
Imogene
Thomas,
your
new
CPAC
members.
They
were
with
us
last
night
and
of
course,
that
will
run
through
the
end
of
May.
We
have
a
very
active
engaged
group,
so
we're
pretty
excited
to
proceed
with
them
and
then
the
partnership
project.
K
K
So
under
the
coast
up
Grant,
which
I
previously
discussed
we
did
purchase,
we
were
able
this
year,
we've
got
our
orders
in
for
564
kits,
which
includes
Narcan,
gloves,
fentanyl
strips
CPR,
face
mask
and
then
information
for
local
recovery
and
Rehab
Services.
So
we
we
have
distributed
more
than
half
of
those
to
our
Charleston
County
agencies.
Remember
the
grant
encompasses
our
project
coordinator
works
with
Charleston
County
agencies
throughout
the
entire
County,
so
we
distribute
those
and
those
are
to
be
given
to
people
within
our
communities.
K
Shelby's
doing
a
great
job
bringing
in
other
agencies
she's
recently
got
Folly
Beach
on
board
and
some
other
fire
departments
like
say:
St
John's
within
the
county
to
partner
with
us
for
providing
resources
for
non-fatal
overdoses
and
she's
also
going
to
be
doing
some
pop-ups
in
locations
to
provide
information.
We
have
one
planned
later
this
month
at
180
place
and
moving
on
just
upcoming.
K
River
dogs
are
going
to
host
this
for
National
Night
Out
again,
and
then
also
we
will
be
doing
another
East,
Side
Community
event,
they'll
be
hosting
us
in
the
community,
so
that'll
probably
be
late
summer
as
well.
We
have
our
second
movie
night,
this
Saturday
on
Savage
Road
I,
sent
everybody
I
sent
you
guys
the
flyer,
and
that,
of
course,
is
a
free
family
event.
Safe
atmosphere
hosted
by
us.
The
officers
have
been
working
tirelessly
to
make
sure
it
goes
off
without
any
issues.
The
only
issue
we're
looking
at
now
is
it
might
rain.
K
So
so
the
rain
out
date
would
be
on
the
15th
I
believe
that's
next
Saturday,
and
then
we
have
our
Bridgeview
Community
engagement
and
resource
event.
Next
week
on
April
13th.
That's
during
the
these
kids
spring
breaks
so
they'll
be
out,
which
is
why
it's
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
the
day-
and
let's
see
we
have
some
more
upcoming
events-
I'll
push
those
out.
K
May,
6,
St,
Andrews,
Presbyterian
Church
is
doing
a
partnership
project
kind
of
family
event,
and
then
one
of
my
officers
is
planning
a
multi-agency
family
friendly,
Beach
event
on
for
May
13th,
we're
still
in
the
permitting
process
with
Folly
Beach,
but
their
Public
Safety
is
heavily
involved
and
that's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
also
water
safety
and
have
some
vendors
out
there
on
the
beach
as
well
and
then,
of
course,
Camp
hope.
We
are
working
diligently
to
get
that
scheduled
out,
coordinated
and
obviously
funded.
D
The
one
thing
Captain
I
found
out
I
think
may
not
have
been
on
your
list,
but
council
members
I've
sent
it
to
you.
We
received
an
invitation
from
deputy
chief
Walker
to
attend
Rock
The,
Block
I
know
it's
somewhat
short
notice,
but
those
are
the
type
of
events
we
really
I
love
going
to
those
it's
on
April
18th
at
Bridgeview,
Village,
Apartment
Complex.
If
you
didn't
receive
it,
let
me
know
afterwards
and
I'll
forward
it
back
to
you.
It's
the
13th,
all
the
details
about
that.
Go
ahead.
Christy.
D
A
D
Yeah
she
does
a
great
job
with
that.
Yeah,
it's
wonderful
and
with
regard
to
the
police
academy,
I
will
say
that
Captain
McFadden
has
been
very
gracious
to
invite.
You
know
the
chair,
the
chair
and
I'm,
going
to
bring
Jerry
my
partner
in
crime
when
I
was
in
the
police
academy
to
their
the
the
Police
Academy
graduation.
So
we
can
talk
to
them
a
little
bit
about
what
CPAC
is
and
what
we
do.
D
I
think
that's
a
great,
a
great
incorporation
to
us
an
introduction.
It
not
only
is
a
recruiting
tool,
but
it's
also
letting
these
people
who
are
vested
in
this
information.
We
may
not
have
enough
roles
for
council
members,
but
you
know
when
you
make
these
subcommittees
and
different
things.
You
know
you're
you're
not
limited
to
just
having
council
members
on
there.
If
you
want
to
incorporate
people
from
you
know
other
citizens
on
your
subcommittees
by
all
means.
You
know
these
are
working
groups
that
we
want
you
to
have
as
much
availability
as
possible.
D
D
Okay,
I
want
to
move
on
to
council
member
Grant
who's.
The
this
is
a.
This
is
a
portion
of
the
agenda
where
we
talk
about
the
subcommittees
right
now.
The
policies
and
procedures
is
the
pretty
active
subcommittee
Communications,
where
you
know
I'm
going
to
point
another
chair
soon
and
you
know
they'll
they'll
take
over
the
the
web
meetings
but
subcommittee
chair
Grant.
If
you
would
like
to
talk
about
policies
and
procedures,
please.
J
J
J
J
Policy
review
process,
as
outlined
through
our
Justice
director,
be
approved
to
be
incorporated
in
the
CPAC
policies,
and
that
would
just
give
us
a
a
way
that
we
can
have
a
process
in
place.
That's
just
not
this
current
subcommittee
can
follow
the
future
subcommittee
and
follow,
and
that's
something
that
Steve
alluded
to
in
his
proposed
information
to
the
guidelines.
D
D
I
I
Was
saying
you
know
the
order
of
review
because
remember
we
had
an
issue
where
we
reviewed.
We
got
a
document,
they
sent
us
a
document,
we
reviewed
it,
but
the
document
that
they
actually
modified
and
circulated
within
the
police
department
was
a
newer
revision
than
what
was
shared
with
us.
So
does
this?
Does
this
process
eliminate
that
from
happening?
I
J
Actually,
what
Captain
croutella
did
for
the
most
recently
general
order
that
we
reviewed
general
order
40
juvenile
operations,
he
provided
the
original
general
order
and
a
copy
of
the
original
general
order,
as
well
as
a
copy
of
the
proposed.
So
we
were
able
to
compare
both
both
policies
and
make
our
comments.
Thank.
H
J
E
Councilmember
Grant,
this
is
Lieutenant
Bailey,
I'm
filling
in
for
Captain
critella
tonight
and
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
that.
As
in
the
last
policy
that
CPAC
reviewed
was,
as
you
mentioned,
the
juvenile
operations
policy
and
the
feedback
from
that
process
of
improvement
on
y'all's
end
of
receiving
one
document.
With
all
the
changes
it
was
very
efficient.
It
was
easy
to
understand.
E
It
was
easy
easy
to
relate
the
recommendation
from
y'all
to
where
exactly
in
policy
y'all
were
referring
to
so
I
just
wanted
to
provide
that
feedback
to
you
and
that
general
order.
Well,
the
next
step
is
to
go
through
our
CPD
process
and
then
y'all
will
receive
the
the
finished
product
and,
as
you
mentioned,
general
order,
25,
less
lethal
and
lethal
weapons
will
be
the
next
one.
You'll
get
and
Captain
Captain
cretella
will
send
that
to
you
next
week.
J
D
And
just
one
one
point
on
this
process
flow:
is
the
the
policy
subcommittee
due
to
the
timing
that
this
needs
to
all
happen?
We
don't
always
have
time
as
a
CPAC
to
be
a
collective
to
keep
meeting
every
time.
These
comments
are
forwarded
so
and
because
they're
strictly
comments
and
recommendations,
the
policy
subcommittee
based
on
this
process
is
empowered
to
collect
those
comments
on
behalf
of
CPAC
and
submit
those
directly
to
the
Department
council
member
Grant.
Did
you
want
to
speak
this
further?
Do
you
want
to
make
a
motion.
J
D
F
F
B
J
D
D
So
there
were
times
where
you
know
we
were
looking
for
a
uniform
and
we,
you
know,
for
those
that
don't
know
the
policy
subcommittee
had
a
very
robust
meeting
with
the
chief
to
go
over
this,
specifically
with
the
recommendations
and
I
think
that
once
the
con,
once
we've
submitted
our
comments,
there's
other
groups
that
are
also
turning
in
comments
and
recommendations,
they're
going
to
take
all
that
in
revisement,
and
then
they
come
up
with
a
final
policy.
Now
that
a
policy
approval
is
any
number
of
different
ways.
D
There
was
no
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
there
was
no
singular.
This
is
the
approval
process
it
once
it
moved
forward.
It
could
be
the
chief,
it
could
be
a
committee
and
then
the
chief.
It
could
be
any
number
of
ways,
so
I
think
that's
where
it
ended
with
it.
Moves
towards
the
final
approval
we'll
find
out
the
results
of
it.
Then
we
can
meet
with
the
chief
or
captain
critella
to
get
feedback
on.
Why
you
know,
maybe
our
recommendations
were
not
incorporated
or
why
certain
changes
we
didn't
recommend
were
put
into
place.
B
Yeah,
my
understanding
is
there
there's
a
I,
know,
they're
concerned
about
making
sure
that
they
can
enact
policies
quickly.
So,
yes,
they
would
approve
once
they
have
their
their
final
version
following
you
know,
considering
cpac's
comments,
they
would
implement
the
policy
they'd
post
it
and
my
understanding
is
that's
when
CPAC
would
receive,
or
specifically
the
subcommittee
would
receive
the
formal
policy
that
would
be
sent
to
you
and
then
at
the
subsequent
subcommittee
policy
policy
subcommittee
meeting.
That's
when
any
discussion
regarding
what
was
and
was
not
accepted
would
happen.
D
D
We're
disappointed
that
these
and
we
can
make
it
part
of
our
minutes
on
our
record,
our
public
record
that
maybe
we
weren't
in
agreement
with
what
the
final
policy
was
or
we
may
have
formal
comments
on
the
final
policy
that
either
can
come
from
the
subcommittee
or
you
know
if
you
want
to
bring
that
council
member
Grant
to
the
general
CPAC.
That
could
be
part
of
our
minutes.
D
We'll
have
to
we'll
have
to
write
that
out,
so
we
can
make
that
part
of
our.
We
can
make
that
part
of
our
subcommittee
rules,
because
remember
that's
not
something
that
the
city
has
to
do.
That's
something
that
we're
doing
internally
right.
So
I,
don't
like
their
policies.
Their
their
procedure
is
not
going
to
change
Beyond
this.
What
I
was
speaking
to
was
what
we
do
internally
once
that
final
policy
has
been
published
so
I,
don't
know
that
we
I
mean
it's
up
to
you,
but
I.
J
I
D
F
D
That
that
was
my
language
right.
That's
what
my
recommendation
was
councilmember
green
is
that
with
the
policy
subcommittee,
would
like
to
do
yes,
okay,
so
Jill.
If
you
could,
when,
when
you
capture
this
as
part
of
our
motion,
so
we're
going
to
amend
we're
going
to
mend
this
document
a
little.
So
the
motion
still
stands.
D
D
J
Additional
information
on
the
subcommittee
policy
subcommittee
would
also
like
to
provide
the
2022
policies
that
the
subcommittee
reviewed.
That
table
is
included
when
our
our
subcommittee
information,
a
subcommittee
meeting
notes.
So
we
we'd
just
like
to
document
the
work
we
did
regarding
reviews
and
comments
submitted,
doing
2022
in
relations
to
general
policies
and
that
would
be
Geo
29,
1317
and
49..
D
Thank
you
any
questions
or
comments
for
councilmember
Graham.
Thank
you.
Now
I
didn't
mean
to
skip
over
the
procedural
Justice
director
and
the
racial
bias
audit.
Those
are
very
important
and
critical
to
what
we
do.
I
knew
with
members
needing
to
drop.
We
needed.
We
had
one
motion:
I
did
need
a
quorum
for
to
get
that
forward.
So
I
apologize
for
going
out
of
order.
Jill
I
know
you're
going
to
do
the
racial
by
assault
update
as
well
as
Captain
McFadden.
You
guys
have
the
division
of
labor,
so
Jill
I'll.
B
Sure
no
worries
so
for
the
benefit
of
our
new
number
members.
It's
lovely
to
meet
you
all
excited
to
work
with.
You,
I'll
just
give
a
very
brief
overview,
because
that
kind
of
orients,
the
discussion
of
the
third
party
oversight
update
so
in
2019,
the
Charleston
Police
Department,
with
the
support
of
city
council,
engaged
in
a
voluntary
racial
bias,
audit
of
its
operations.
B
They
contracted
an
outside
firm
to
come
in
and
review
policies,
practice
procedures
and
data,
and
that
process
yielded
72
different
recommendations
applied
to
the
areas
of
traffic,
stops,
use
of
force,
complaints,
Community
relationships
and
Personnel
issues,
and
so,
since
2019
the
Department's
really
been
trying
to
implement
these
recommendations.
And
at
this
stage
one
of
those
recommendations
was
canceled.
33
are
noted
as
full
compliance.
37
are
noted
as
full
compliance
with
an
annual
review,
and
so
by
compliance
we
mean
we've.
B
How
well
the
department
has
really
fulfilled
these
compliant
recommendations.
The
next
part
of
the
process.
This
is
a
multi-component
process.
We're
going
to
be
working
towards
getting
started
on
the
community
engagement
piece.
I
can
report
that,
as
as
a
result
of
some
of
the
feedback
that
we
received
going
through
the
city
council
process,
the
researchers
are
interested
in
working
to
onboard
a
community
engagement
consultant.
Someone
who
is
has
a
diverse
background,
who
has
good,
has
really
strong
ties
with
the
community
to
try
to
advise
on.
B
You
know
the
best
way
to
get
the
community
engaged
in
the
subsequent
parts
of
the
audit,
which
include
attending
public
forums
participating
in
interviews
and
then
also
participating
in
the
joint
effort
between
CPAC
and
the
CPD
on
the
community
perception
survey.
So
that's
the
really
important
piece
that
I
want
to
alert
everyone
about.
Given
the
aggressive
timeline
for
this
assessment,
we
will
be
likely
before
our
next
full
meeting
I'll
be
reaching
out
to
each
of
the
members.
D
Oh
I
did
it
too
one
of
the
concerns
I'm
getting
from
the
public,
whether
it's
the
media
public
in
general,
some
of
the
the
different
groups
around
the
community
is
they
feel
like
they're,
and
this
isn't
aim
to
chew,
but
they
feel
like
it's
they're,
not
proactively,
being
communicated.
So
you
know
outside
of
cpack.
Are
you
all
sending
press
releases?
D
Are
you
inviting
the
media
to
talk
to
these
things
in
the
different
groups,
because
you
know
everybody
just
seems
to
all
of
a
sudden
be
turning
dust
saying
what's
going
on
with
the
audit
what's
going
on
with
audit,
and
you
know,
obviously
we
meet
every
couple
of
months
and
we
do
our
part
and
we
have
other
work
to
do
as
you're
going
through
this
and
I
think.
That's
probably
why
there's
a
recommendation
for
a
Communications
Guru,
but
you
know
at
the
same
time
the
department
has
public
affairs
officer
and
different
things
like
that.
D
B
Mm-Hmm
yeah,
yes,
ma'am,
that's
a
good
point,
so
it
took
a
long
time
for
the
Department
to
basically
enact
all
of
the
recommendations.
Some
of
the
recommendations
were,
you
know,
relatively
quick
fixes.
It
was
basically
adding
specific
lines
into
policy,
so
those
were
a
relatively
less
arduous
to
accomplish.
However,
some
of
the
recommendations
had
to
do
with
changing
the
way
that
the
department
collects
data
and
I
know.
One
recommendation
in
particular
relied
upon
an
outside
system
and
changes
had
to
be
made
to
that
system
that
were
not
entirely
within
the
Department's
control.
B
B
You
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
work,
that's
been
performed
and
it
had
to
happen
in
stages,
some
of
the
recommendations
built
on
others,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why,
whenever
you
enact
large-scale
change
within
an
organization
specifically
related
to
data
and
training,
it
does
take
longer
than
we
would
like.
Sometimes.
B
Well,
we
we
have
been
meeting
with
Cajun,
yes
ma'am.
Yes,
we
we
met
with
them
prior
to
our
for
our
final
address
at
city,
council
and
I
presume
that
we're
still,
you
know,
going
to
be
meeting
with
them
in
the
future
and
we're
also
one
other
thing
that
I
forgot
to
mention
I
neglected
to
mention
was
also
based
on
the
feedback
that
we
received
from
from
city
council
and
those
discussions.
B
The
researchers
are
planning
to
host
a
community
kickoff
meeting,
we're
aiming
for
the
end
of
April,
and
so
people
within
the
certain
within
certain
groups
in
the
community
that
have
been
expressed.
Interest
in
this
audit
and
want
to
provide
feedback,
will
be
invited
to
engage
directly
with
the
researchers
they're
still
kind
of
figuring
out
when
they
can
offer
that
and
what
the
Forum
will
be.
But,
yes,
there
will
be
a
future
opportunity
to
to
be
able
to
speak
directly
with
them
and
share
concerns.
D
Sorry
about
that
with
relational
making
it
part
of
the
minutes,
I
received
feedback
from
Cajun
I
think
within
the
past
day,
regarding
some
of
the
meetings
they've
had
I
believe
two
meetings
with
the
chief
recently
and
different
people
and
Suzanne
Harding's
expressed
some
optimism.
I
mean
she's,
never
going
to
be
100,
but
there's
she's
expressed
some
optimism
that
there
seems
to
be
at
least
they're
listening
right
and
that's
probably
the
you
know
the
positive
side.
D
D
We
introduced
them
to
Jill,
obviously
to
have
a
sit
down
with
her
and
I.
Think
I.
Think
from
what
my?
What
I'm
understanding
is.
That's
been
very
beneficial,
so
at
least
it's
addressing
there
need
to
be
heard
right.
That's
the
first
step.
You
know
we
we
didn't
have
that
before
and
I
think.
That's
that's
helping
Jerry's
very
involved
with
what
they're
doing
as
well,
and
you
know
Jerry
he's
not
going
to
take
no
for
an
answer
so
he's
helping
pushed
that
along.
D
So
I
appreciate
that
and
we're
not
letting
it
go
once
Suzanne
got
my
name,
she
I'm
getting
emails
and
phone
calls
left
and
right.
You
know
whatever
we
can
do
to
help
them
and
they're
you
know,
and
for
the
other
counselors
they're
just
one
of
the
players.
They
are
not
the
only
player
they're
they're,
not
our
only
source
of
input.
You
know
we
want.
We
want
to
continue
to
make
sure
we
have
broad
input
from
all
the
various
groups,
all
right,
Jill
anything
else.
On
the
on
the
bus
audit
update
no.
G
F
So
Jillian
the
contract,
The
Proposal,
presented
to
Sydney
Council,
had
a
kind
of
a
12
to
15
week,
schedule
of
activity
and,
as
I
recall,
the
details
of
the
point
in
which
the
only
item
where
cpapers
was
I
mean
CPAC
was
specifically
identified
as
playing
a
role.
Was
the
survey
or
has
there
been
any
rethinking
of
that?
Are
there
any
other
activities
that
CPAC
needs
to
be
prepared
to
assist
the
department
with
and
executing
this
evaluation.
B
That's
a
great
point:
I
think
that
it
really
any
I
think
helping
us
get
people
to
attend
the
public
forums
when
those
locations
times
and
dates
are
announced
would
be
very
helpful.
Obviously,
the
survey
is
a
big
part
of
the
process.
We
would
really
hope
that
you
all
would
help
us
get
in.
You
know,
expand
the
interest
in
that
and
encourage
people
to
participate
beyond
that.
I
know
that
there
is
an
interview
portion.
D
I
think
we
would
like
to
encourage
you.
We
can't
tell
you
anything
but
we'd
like
to
encourage
you
to
introduce
that
team
to
us
as
early
in
the
process
as
possible,
so
that
you
know
we
can
you
know
if
they
want
our
feedback
as
they
go
through
it.
We
just
encourage
that
you
know
they
don't
wait
till
the
survey
period.
You
know
let
them
know
who
we
are
from
the
beginning
from
the
outset.
What
our
role
is
and
then
invite
them
to
speak
with
us
at
the
beginning.
D
G
K
K
So
our
every
community
in
our
city
has
different
challenges
and
if
we
can
identify
those
specifically
our
Patrol
commanders
and
the
officers
working,
those
areas
would
be
more
in
tune
with,
obviously
what
their
residents
or
people
who
even
work
in
the
city,
what
maybe
what
fear
they
have
or
or
what
they
need
to
be
educated
on
of
the
actual
crime.
That's
occurring
versus,
maybe
the
fear
of
what's
happening
and
and
obviously
improve
on
those
relationships.
So
I'm
very
hopeful
and
ready
to
get
get
that
off
the
ground
and
thank
you
Jill.
D
M
D
D
D
K
D
F
F
April
is:
should
we
have
a
conversation
of
some
kind
amongst
CPAC
and
and
the
staff
Julian
or
somebody
just
to
kind
of
walk
through
with
the
12
the
12
15
week
schedule
is
and
where
you
know
we
can
be
intercept,
interject
ourselves
or
be
involved
and
engaged.
So
the
new
members
of
the
committee
of
the
council,
as
well
as
all
members,
can
figure
out
what
additional
help
we
can
be.
D
You
know:
do
you
have
a?
Let
me
let
me
explain
to
that
so
Jill.
Do
you?
Do
you
offer
for
their
15
weeks?
Is
there
a
project
plan
we're
going
to
have
something
like
that?
That
indicates?
Okay,
you
know
during
this
that
kind
of
outlines
from
kick
off
all
the
way
to
final
summary,
the
different
pieces,
and
is
that
something
public?
Well,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
100
public,
as
we
are
again.
We
are
a
committee
of
the
city
council.
D
B
B
So
there
is,
there
is
a
rough
outline
of
activities
and
obviously
I
think
it.
You
know
kind
of
unfolds
in
the
manner
that
it
was
described
in
The
Proposal.
The
first
stage
is
getting
documentation
from
the
department,
but
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
the
community
activities,
the
researchers
were
hesitant
to
really
fully
plan
those
out
until
they
onboarded
the
community
engagement
liaison
that
they're
still,
you
know
actively.
B
You
know
looking
to
make
a
choice
in
that
regard
very
soon,
but
I
can
certainly
check
with
them
and
see
if
they're
comfortable,
releasing
their
outline
and
then
having
a
meeting.
I
know
that
they've
only
they've
allotted
certain
time
based
on
the
resources
that
they
have
available
to
them,
but
I'll
certainly
convey
that
message
and
see
what
we
can
do.
D
B
Well,
they're
they're,
hoping
that
they
don't
have
to
I
know
that
they're
actively
really
trying
to
onboard
someone
quickly.
But
ideally
you
know
you're
right.
If
it
takes
six
months,
they're
gonna
have
to
plan
playing
something
but
I
think
they're
still
early
enough
into
the
process
that
they
can
get
someone
on
to
help
guide
them
and
still
make
the
timeline
or
not
be
very
much
beyond
the
timeline.
D
D
I
mean
since
it's
their
recommendation,
the
the
city
price
should
have
gone
back
to
them
and
given
them,
hey
we'll
give
you
a
month
two
months.
Whatever
this
is.
You
know
this
is
the
maximum
amount
of
time.
If
you're
not
able
to
do
it
by
then
you
know,
we've
got
contract
engagements
that
need
to
happen
timelines.
You
know
costs
and
everything
else
Associated.
So
the
sooner
we
can
get
that
the
better
I'd
appreciate
that
yeah.
B
Yeah
I
know
that
they're
rapidly
working-
and
this
was
an
aggressive
timeline
already,
and
so
we're
definitely
trying
to
make
that
happen,
but
yeah
we.
We
do
think
that
you
know
if
we
can
onboard
someone
quickly,
that
we
can
get
that
expertise
and
and
make
sure
that
that's
Incorporated
before
too
much
is
planned.
Jerry.
D
All
right,
I
love,
Island
folding.
Obviously
you
could
you
can
reach
out
to
anybody
you
want,
but
if
yeah
I
don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
her
to
have
to
do
everything
through
me
and
then
I'm
just
forwarding
stuff
around
all
right.
Any
other
questions
comments
concerns
you
want
to
bring
up
I
apologize
for
going
over,
but
I
think
it
was
very
productive.
I
I,
really
I'm
happy
to
have
new.
Not
only
am
I
happy
to
have
the
new
folks,
I'm
happy
to
see
them
engage
I.
Think
that's
wonderful
and
I'm.
D
D
It
is
9
11
year
time
it
is
6
11,
my
time,
I'm
calling
in
from
Las
Vegas
how
you
doing
I
needed
to
break
there's
too
much
walking.
Thank
you
all
for
coming
have
a
wonderful
evening
and
again
our
work
doesn't
stop
when
we
adjourn
keep
communicating,
keep
engaging,
keep
pushing
and
keep
understanding,
and
thank
you
all
we're
journey
in
9.
11.
have
a
wonderful
evening.