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Citizen’s Police Advisory Council 10/7/2021
A
You'll
also
hear
some
additional
updates
from
our
subcommittees:
communications
policies
and
procedures
and
traffic
stop
and
then
some
updates
from
the
police
department
in
general
from
items
that
we
have
discussed
during
the
last
meeting
in
august,
as
well
as
any
prior
meetings
to
that
time.
I
am
saying
all
of
this
information,
because,
during
this
transitional
period
of
support
city
support,
we
were
unable
to
have
the
actual
information
posted
to
the
website
insufficient
time
for
citizens
to
sign
up
to
participate
in
tonight's
meeting.
A
A
I
know
my
vice
chair,
paul
tamborino
will
remind
me
to
ensure
that
we
provide
that
address
again
for
you,
the
session
is
being
recorded
and
will
be
posted
at
a
later
date
for
your
watching
and
again,
if
you
should
have
any
questions
about
the
information
shared
here
tonight,
since
you
are
unable
to
participate
on
live
stream,
please
make
sure
you
send
an
email
to
that
email
account
again.
That's
the
abbreviation
for
charleston,
which
is
c
h.
S
spell
out
police
advisory
at
gmail.com.
A
Now,
with
that
said,
and
a
welcome
to
all
of
you
who
have
joined
us
here
tonight,
we've
got
numerous
participants
from
the
leadership
at
the
charleston
police
department.
We
thank
you
for
stepping
in
and
attending
tonight.
We
do.
I
did
talk
with
chief
reynolds
and
he
is
not
able
to
join
us
tonight,
but
that
does
not
mean
anything
regarding
his
commitment
to
this
process
and
to
the
goals
and
ideals
of
the
citizens,
police,
advisory,
council,
deputy
chief
walker
and
captain
mcfadden,
with
others
represented
here
tonight.
A
Captain
brooder
and
others
here
present
will
provide
us
the
updates
so
that
we
can
ensure
that
we're
staying
on
track
with
the
goals
and
ideals
of
the
council.
Two
of
our
council
members.
As
we
proceed
to
roll
call
and
andrea.
I
hope
you
have
a
listing.
If
not,
I
can
do
my
best
to
give
you
some
names,
and
so
we
would
have
it
accurately
recorded
in
the
minutes.
A
Emily
broome,
councilwoman,
emily
broome
and
councilman
camden
shields
are
unable
to
attend
tonight's
meeting
due
to
some
last-minute
schedule,
conflicts
that
have
arisen,
but
they
are
emily.
Broome
represents
councilman
city
councilman,
seekins
district,
which
is
district,
8
and
camden
shields
represents
city
councilman,
griffin's
district,
which
is
district
10..
A
D
A
Thank
you,
andrea.
A
A
A
No
problem
no
problem,
also
andrea
and
other
council
members.
We
want
to
say
thank
you
to
jack
handigan
for
joining
us
tonight.
Jack
is
in
process
of
being
confirmed.
We
certainly
hope
by
the
city
council.
A
I
did
get
a
chance
to
talk
with
chief
reynolds
today
and
with
steve
roomelin
and
on
last
evening
I
got
a
chance
to
talk
with
deputy
chief
walker.
As
you
know,
we
have
a
number
of
positions
that
need
to
be
filled.
We
have
four
actually
that
are
vacant
at
this
time
and
we
have
our
two
high
school
student
student
positions
that
are
available.
B
A
A
With
that
said,
the
set
again,
the
citizens
participation
period-
that's
listed
on
the
agenda,
we're
unable
to
participate
with
that
line
item.
We
asked
that
because
of
the
advertisement
for
this
meeting,
I
inadvertently
did
not
allow
an
opportunity,
as
we
usually
do,
for
citizens
to
sign
up
to
speak
to
us.
A
In
the
absence
of
that
opportunity,
we
ask
please
citizens
any
concerns
or
any
compliments
any
discussion
or
remarks.
You
would
like
to
share
with
the
citizens
police
advisory
council.
Please
email
send
an
email
with
that
information
to
charleston,
and
that
is
c
h.
S
not
charleston
spelled
out
but
c
h,
s
p,
o
l,
I
c
e
a
d
v.
A
Thank
you
paul
for
putting
it
on
the
screen,
and
so
when
those
that
look
at
it
through
facebook
or
youtube,
they
will
get
a
chance
to
see
that
now
we
move
to
item
number
five
roman
numeral,
five
special
commission
on
equity
inclusion
and
racial
reconciliation
update.
I
miss
amber
johnson
was
kind
enough
to
come
to
us
back.
I
think
it
was
in
june
and
she
offered
to
return
to
us
once
the
recommendations.
A
A
Ms
johnson
is
true
to
her
word
and
is
meeting
her
commitment
to
us
and
we're
so
appreciative
of
you
making
time
to
join
us
tonight
as
johnson
and
please
share
with
us
any
updates,
you're
willing,
you're
able
to
share
with
us
so
that
we
could
see
how
we
could
work
together
to
bring
about
the
improvements
for
the
city.
Thank
you
again
for.
B
Coming
absolutely
thank
you
for
having
me
in
the
chat.
I
placed
a
link
to
the
report
that
was
released.
That
way,
you
can
access
all
of
the
recommendations.
The
report
looks
large,
but
the
meat
of
it
is
in
the
beginning
of
it.
So
I
think
it's.
The
first
50
to
60
pages
is
where
you'll
find
the
information
and
the
charts
for
the
recommendations.
B
The
one
specific
to
this
committee
can
be
found
in
the
criminal
justice
section
and
those
recommendations
are
there.
I
believe
it's
the
first
set
of
recommendations,
so
you
shouldn't
have
to
go
through
a
lot
of
them
to
find
them.
B
As
you
stated
earlier,
the
council
meeting
didn't
go
as
planned
for
us,
but
the
mayor
has
accepted
the
report
and
has
distributed
the
recommendations
to
all
the
standing
committees
of
council,
so
we're
we're
planning
to
continue
to
move
forward
with
these
recommendations,
we're
continuing
to
talk
to
our
community
organizations
and
uplifting
these
recommendations
to
make
sure
that
we
have
progress
and
we
have
support
going
forward.
B
Work
on
the
ordinance
to
create
a
permanent
commission,
because
that
ordinance
was
also
also
failed
at
council,
so
we're
doing
work
to
try
to
revise
the
language
in
that
to
see
if
we
can
bring
it
back
so
that
we
can
have
a
permanent
commission
working
on
these
issues
throughout
the
city.
So
when
you
take
a
look
at
the
recommendations,
one
specifically
for
criminal
justice,
you'll
see
that
they're
broken
down
into
long-term
goals,
objectives
and
then
strategies
and
actions,
and
then
that
way,
that's
how
you
can
work
through
the
recommendations.
B
There's
three
long-term
goals.
I
think
the
first
one
is
reimagining
police
services.
There's
one
about
evaluating
municipal
ordinances
and
the
last
one
is
about
the
municipal
court
improvements
to
the
courts.
B
So
I
think
all
all
valuable
recommendations
and
our
goal
is
just
to
continue
to
move
forward.
So
we're
asking
people
to
continue
to
support
and
advocate
on
behalf
of
the
commission,
you
know
continuing
to.
Let
council
know
that
this
work
is
needed
and
there's
community
support
behind
it.
I
cannot
answer
any
questions.
E
Madam
chair,
if
I
could,
as
most
of
you
know,
I
chaired
the
wind
up
chairing
back
into
chairing
the
subcommittee
on
criminal
justice
reform.
I
appreciate.
C
E
And
I
can
report
more
broadly
that
all
of
the
subcommittees,
in
their
recommendations,
included
a
recommendation
for
there
to
be
a
permanent
commission
to
continue
the
work,
and
I
would
ask
commissioners
to
these
commissioners
on
this
council
council
members
to
take
a
look
at
that
report
and
on
urge
their
city
council
members
to
consider
that
I
can.
E
The
situation
is
that
the
ordinance
passed
on
first
reading
failed
on
second
reading
and,
as
a
consequence,
has
to
be
reintroduced
by
one
of
the
council
members
who
voted
in
opposition
to
moving
it
forward
on
second
reading.
So
there's
a
little
community
education
associated
with
that,
and
I
would
urge
you
to
be
aware
of
that
and
involved
to
support
the
concept
of
a
permanent
commission.
E
A
Thank
you,
councilman
harris
was
there
any
specific
reason
given
for
the
failure
of
the
ordinance
on
the
second
reading.
B
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
debate
at
council
about
two
sections
of
the
ordinance.
Both
of
them
specifically
referred
to
the
final
report
and
advancing
those
recommendations
from
the
final
report.
B
A
Okay,
so
if
you
would
like
to
visit
the
city
council
site
to
go
back
to
see
that
meeting
and
exactly
what
happened,
to
help
to
help
encourage
your
city
councilman
to
so
vote
in
favor
of
this
ordinance,
please
go
on
to
youtube
and
you
can
pull
that
city
council
meeting
up.
You
can
just
search
for
charleston
city
council
meeting,
and
do
you
remember
that
date?
I
know
the
august
I
was
september.
E
A
September
14th,
thank
you
so
september
14th.
I
did
do
the
august
17th
meeting.
So
please
take
a
look
at
that
so
that
we
could
see
what
other
things
we
can
do
to
help
to
encourage
the
ordinance
any
other
questions
or
comments
for
ms
johnson.
A
Now,
if
you're
on
the
call-
and
you
are
able
to
unmute-
you
have
a
question-
please
feel
free
to
do
so.
It's
really
wonderful
that
we
had.
We
were
able
to
get
ms
johnson
back
so
quickly
to
talk
with
us
after
what
she
has
experienced
the
august
17th
and
september
14th
meetings
of
city
council.
C
Yeah,
I
think
I
had
the
same
question
you
did,
but
I
want
to
follow
up
a
little
so
miss
johnson
okay.
So
there
were
two
points
on
there
that
they
didn't
agree
with,
so
they
they
shot
it
down.
Obviously,
so
do
you
believe
the
number?
Well,
I
guess
it's
a
two-part
question
number
one:
do
you
think
that
the
arguments
will
overcome
that
objection
or
number
two?
B
B
B
No,
not
from
the
no
that
that
text
is
not
there.
It
would
be
attached
to
the
agenda
items
of
those
meetings.
Okay,.
A
And
and
paul
they,
that
is
available,
though
that
is
public
publicly
accessible,
but
the
recommendations,
I
believe,
last
time,
councilman
harris
jerry
shared
with
us
that
the
actual
pages-
and
it
really
is-
I
think,
it's
pages
18
through
22-
of
the
total
report
that
focuses
on
criminal
justice
reform
and
pretty
much
aligned
itself
with
actions
that
cpac
has
been
talking
about
and
looking
into.
C
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
again
amber
for
joining
us,
really
appreciate
it
and,
like
we
had
talked
before,
we'll
continue
to
keep
the
lines
of
communication
open
between
us,
so
that
we
could
see
how
we
could
jointly
continue
to
work
for
the
improvements
and
conditions
here
in
charleston
you're.
F
A
A
Certainly,
okay,
I
think
steve
is
see.
Roomland
is
on
you
remember
at
the
last
meeting,
you'll
recall
when
you
referred
to
looked
in
the
minutes.
We
talked
about
some
different
ordinances
that
were
coming
about.
I
think
there
were
about
four
new
ones,
plus
the
the
open
carry
statute,
and
we
wanted
to
have
more
information
on
those
ordinances,
especially
the
ones
pertaining
that
were
the
ones
surrounding
the
demonstration
and
the
concerns
that
many
of
us
have
received
from
various
from
constituents
in
various
pockets
of
the
city
of
charleston.
A
Regarding
the
apparent
discriminatory,
apparent
apparent
or
perceived
discriminatory
practices
when
it
comes
to
opportunities
to
demonstrate,
so
we
asked
steve
roomelin
if
he
would
fill
in
for
us
and
explain
with
from
his
perspective
as
being
one
of
the
attorneys
for
the
city.
The
first
amendment
demonstration,
ordinance
brief
and
the
other
ordinances
as
well
steve,
as
well
as
giving
us
an
overview
of
the
open,
carry
statute.
So
steve
thanks
again
for
preparing
to
share
this
information
with
us
tonight.
B
F
So
what
I
have
is,
I
I
presented
maybe
a
week
or
two
ago
to
members
of
the
business
community
on
the
open,
carry
so
I've
taken
that
powerpoint
and
I've
kind
of
adapted
it,
and
I
know
you
want
to
get
to
the
first
amendment
so
there's
about
30
slides
here
of
both
the
open
carry
and
the
first
amendment
I'll
try
to
move
fairly
quickly
through
them.
However,
if
you
have
a
point
that
you
want
to
ask
a
question
on,
please
do
and
we'll
stop
and
discuss
it
at
that
time.
F
So,
basically,
the
open
carry
with
training
in
simplistic
terms.
All
it
really
did
is
take
those
that
can
carry
a
concealed
weapon
in
a
concealed
manner
and
allow
them
to
now
carrot
carry
it
openly.
So
you
can
basically
take
your
gun
from
inside
your
coat
and
wear
it
on
your
belt.
Should
you
choose
to
do
so
or
if
not,
you
can
continue
to
carry
it
concealed.
F
F
We
haven't
had
a
lot
of
complaints
at
the
at
the
police
department,
but
you
know
all
that
could
change
at
any
time,
depending
on
the
you
know,
the
climate
of
the
of
the
city
in
the
nation,
so
definitely
we're
keeping
our
eye
out
for
that,
and,
basically,
nearly
all
the
same
restrictions
that
apply
when
you
are
carrying
concealed
also
apply
to
open
carrying
so
restrictions
on
who
can
carry
a
gun
where
you
can
carry
your
gun.
What
the
requirements
are
to
get
a
permit
are
all
basically
the
same.
F
F
You
can
find
the
open
carry
with
training
acts,
although
it's
not
just
one
section
of
the
state
code,
it's
a
number
of
different
sections,
the
main
the
part
of
it
that
we're
interested
in
is
found
in
title
23,
chapter
31,
article
4.
and
again,
that's
the
concealed
weapons.
Permit
statute,
if
you're
familiar
with
that
from
either
having
a
weapons
permit
or
looking
at
it.
F
For
any
other
reason,
before
you'll
see
only
some
minor
changes
there
in
order
to
get
a
permit,
you
have
to
be
a
resident
of
south
carolina
or
own
property
in
the
state,
be
at
least
21
years
of
age,
not
be
prohibited
by
state
or
federal
law
from
possessing
a
weapon,
and
you
have
to
submit
a
application
which
includes
your
driver's
license.
Group
of
residents,
a
vision,
test,
proof
of
training
and
fingerprints
took
away
the
fee.
Basically,
so
you
don't
have
to
pay
a
fee
anymore
if
you
want
to
apply
for
a
permit.
F
The
training
the
stuff
in
white
here
is
what
is
currently
or
was
previously
taught.
What's
in
red
is
what's
now
added
to
that.
So
you
have
to
learn
about
the
statutory
and
case
law
relating
handguns
and
the
use
of
force,
basically
self-defense
laws,
information
on
handgun
use
safety,
the
storage
of
handguns
and
especially
storing
the
handguns.
So
it
doesn't
get
into
the
hands
of
a
child.
F
You
have
to
fire
your
weapon,
it
used
to
be
you'd
fire
50
rounds.
Now
it's
not
down
to
only
25.
I
think
they
justified
that
on
the
cost
of
ammunition.
These
days,
you
have
to
learn
how
to
properly
secure
your
firearm,
your
holster,
the
cocked
and
locked
carrying
of
a
firearm
which
is
basically
having
a
firearm.
F
That's
ready
to
be
fired
except
the
safety's
on,
so
how
you
you
remove
that
from
the
holster,
remove
the
safety
and
then
fire
the
gun,
how
to
respond
to
a
person
who
attempts
to
take
your
firearm
and
then
finally,
de-escalation,
if
you
get
into
an
argument
with
someone.
Obviously
the
first
thing
it
shouldn't
be
to
go
for
your
handgun,
the
places
where
you're
prohibited
from
carrying
a
weapon,
either
concealed
or
openly,
basically
remain
the
same.
F
F
You
can
bring
a
gun
onto
the
premises
of
a
school
for
the
church
service,
provided
you
have
the
permission
of
whoever
is
in
charge
either
the
pastor
or
administrator
of
the
church
can't
go
to
school
or
college
athletic
events
with
a
firearm
daycare
and
preschool
facilities,
places
where
prohibited
by
federal
law.
You
can't
go
to
church
with
your
firearm
unless
you
have
the
permission
of
the
pastor
reverend.
F
Whoever
is
in
charge
of
the
service
can't
go
to
hospitals
or
medical
clinics
with
your
gun,
unless
you
have
the
permission
and
then
for
the
businesses,
there
is
a
requirement
that
you
place
a
sign
up
at
your
business.
If
you
don't
want
people
carrying
concealer
openly
on
the
premises
and
there's
certain
rules
that
apply
for
that,
and
certainly
if
anyone's
interested
in
in
signage,
we
have
a
link
on
the
city
website
that
has
a
template
for
the
sign
and
instructions
of
what
you
need
to
do
to
post
that
sign.
F
So
if
anyone
has
any
issue
with
that
they
can,
they
can
go
to
that
website
or
they
can.
They
can
call
us
we'll
help
you
out
with
that.
Basically,
a
person
who
comes
on
the
premises
and
violation
sign
is
trespassing
and
can
be
charged
for
trespassing.
F
F
People
can't
come
to
your
residence
with
a
firearm
unless
they
have
your
express
permission
to
do
so.
You
can't
go
into
a
bar
or
a
place
that
serves
alcohol
with
your
firearm.
Unless
you
plan
not
to
be
consuming
alcohol,
public
transportation,
you're
not
supposed
to
have
any
weapons
on
buses
and
part
of
our
new
ordinance
is
that
you
can't
have
you
can't
openly
carry
a
firearm
at
a
permitted
event
and
that
would
include
a
demonstration
special
event
or
city-sponsored
or
permitted
athletic
event.
F
Basically,
the
following
people,
judges,
solicitors,
workers,
compensation,
commissioners
attorney
generals
and
assistant
attorney.
Generals
can
carry
their
guns
anywhere
and
it
used
to
be
that
they
had
to
be
on
duty
when
they
were
doing
that.
But
they
took
away
that
requirement.
So
technically,
a
a
a
judge
could
carry
their
gun
into
a
restaurant.
Even
if
the
restaurant
was
posted,
no
concealable
weapons,
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
the
sign
requirements,
but
again
they're
available
at
these
links.
F
F
F
Well,
that's
that's!
For
the
training,
that's
not
part
of
the
law,
it
doesn't
say
you
have
to
walk
around
with
your
with
your
safety
on
your
gun.
It
just
says
that
the
training
that
you
receive
in
order
to
get
your
permit
has
to
include
that
as
part
of
the
as
part
of
the
topics
that
are
covered
in
that
training,
so.
C
F
C
F
D
Before
you
move
on
just
to
follow
up,
you
mentioned
the
presentation
you
did
for
the
business
community
that
was
through
charleston
explorer.
They
sent
us
back
the
link
and
it
had
some
extra
spacing
and
stuff
in
there
in
the
end
in
the
beginning.
So
we're
gonna
get
that
edited
and
formatted
down
with
our
public
information
team
and
get
that
released
in
some
fashion,
things
into
pretty
large
files,
so
probably
on
our
website.
But
we
are
working
on
getting
that
done,
but
we
will
make
sure
it
looks
like
a
nice
yeah.
F
I
mean
if
you,
if
you
go
on
the
city
of
charleston's
website,
you
it's
actually
the
business
and
neighborhood
services,
division
of
the
of
the
government,
that's
where
you
have
the
signage
stuff
on
there
and
it's
the
link
to
the
sled
guidance.
But
again,
if
you
don't
want
to
go
to
the
trouble
of
looking
for
that,
just
shoot
one
of
us,
an
email
and
we'll
get
it
to
you
right
away.
F
All
right
I'll
move
on
to
first
amendment
demonstrations,
then.
So,
back
on
july,
29th
of
this
year,
the
council
passed
the
third
reading
of
a
first
amendment,
demonstrations
ordinance,
which
is
contained
in
chapter
25,
article
3
of
the
city
code
and
I'll
just
mention
at
the
time
that
we
came
up
with
this
new
ordinance.
We
also
amended
our
special
events,
permit
ordinance
our
parks,
permit
ordinance
and
our
weapons
section
of
the
code
to
basically
they
interact
with
one
another
and
in
order
for
them
to
make
sense
we
had
to
we
had
to
amend
them.
F
F
So
we
wanted
to
broaden
the
the
definition
to
include
the
demonstrations
that
we've
been
seeing
over
the
past
several
years
and
and
take
the
parades
out
and
they're
now
special
events.
F
So
when
we
were
looking
at
this,
we
looked
at
the
following
reasons
for
doing
this.
First
of
all,
with
more
first
amendment
activity
going
on,
we
wanted
to
protect
first
amendment
rights
for
all
citizens,
so
this
isn't
just
a
limitation
on
some
of
the
things
you
can
do
in
the
city.
It's
actually
a
protection
in
order
for
you
to
engage
in
first
amendment
activities
without
in
a
safe
manner
and
without
being
being
harassed
in
any
way.
F
It
also
was
to
provide
clarity
to
the
public
regarding
the
permitting
process.
So,
if
you
take
the
time
to
read
through
this
ordinance,
you
should
be
able
to
figure
out
exactly
what
you
need
to
do
to
plan
a
demonstration
and-
and
also
you
may
be
dealing
with
you
know,
with
the
with
the
police
department-
we're
always
happy
to
to
help
you
work
through
that
as
well.
F
We
wanted
to
streamline
the
permitting
process
among
the
city
departments.
It
used
to
be
that
people
may
not
know
exactly
what
kind
of
permit
they
needed,
so
they
would
contact
one
department
and
be
you
know,
sent
to
another
department.
F
Now
we're
hoping
we
can
get
you
in
the
right
spot
in
the
beginning
and
save
you
the
hassle
of
having
to
look
around.
For
that
we
want
to
maintain
order,
safety
and
the
use
of
enjoyment
of
public
areas
in
the
city,
and
we
also
wanted
to
address
the
change
in
the
open,
carry
with
training
act
specific
to
demonstrations.
F
The
law
is
that
any
demonstration
assembly,
picketing
speech,
making
marching,
etc
on
any
street,
including
the
sidewalk
area,
a
park
or
public
place
in
the
city
that
involves
the
communication
or
expression
of
views
or
grievances,
and
it's
engaged
in
by
one
or
more
person
and
likely
to
draw
a
crowd
of
online
lookers
is
in
fact
a
demonstration.
So
a
demonstration
can
be
as
few
as
one
person
holding
a
sign
or
a
flag.
A
demonstration
can
be
you
know,
a
thousand
people
marching
through
the
street.
F
It
is
not
required,
if
you're
less
than
that,
and
it
does
not
apply
to
spontaneous
gatherings
which
are
first
amendment
demonstration
that
is
occasioned
by
breaking
news
or
affairs
coming
into
public
knowledge,
less
than
48
hours
prior
to
the
event
and
is
conducted
at
a
public
forum.
So
if
something
happens
today-
and
you
see
it
on
the
news
and
you
feel
you
need
to
express
your
views
or
grievances
whatever
it
may
be,
you
know
by
going
to
the
police
department
or
the
courthouse
or
the
solicitor's
office
or
wherever.
That
is
a
spontaneous
demonstration.
F
However,
if
you,
if
you
plan
it
and
you
say,
meet
me
down
at
the
the
police
station
at
five
o'clock
and
we're
going
to
have
a
rally,
then
I
would,
I
would
argue,
that's
not
spontaneous
and
that
would
be
subject
to
our
permitting
rules
whenever
you're
going
to
have
a
gathering,
whether
it's
a
permanent
event
or
a
spontaneous
event,
you
should
try
and
get
in
touch
with
the
police
department
and
at
least
put
us
on
notice.
So
we
can
help
you
ensure
that
your
event
is
a
safe
event.
F
So
there
are
limitations
on
first
amendment
activity,
the
first
amendment,
although
it
limits
the
government's
ability
to
regulate
speech,
it
does
not
guarantee
a
right
to
express
oneself
at
all
times
places
or
in
any
manner
that
may
be
desired.
This
is,
what's
called
time
place
and
manner
restrictions.
So
we
can't
stop
you
from
saying
what
you
want
to
say,
but
we
can
put
limitations
on
the
time
place
and
manner
in
which
it's
it's
said
and
that's
in
order
to
keep
the
peace
in
the
city
and
ensure
public
safety.
F
F
The
hours
of
demonstration
are
between
8
a.m
and
8
p.m.
We
won't
grant
you
a
permit
for
times
outside
of
those
that
those
parameters
and
demonstrations
lasting
more
than
three
hours
may
require
a
special
events
permit.
So
you
know,
if
you
want
to
be
on
a
certain
street
corner
in
a
certain
park
or
march,
you
know
a
certain
place.
F
In
addition
to
demonstrations
lasting
more
than
three
hours,
special
events
may
kick
in
when
your
quest
is
made
to
reserve
a
particular
public
area
for
use.
You
want
to
take
over
an
entire
park
or
or
other
public
area.
If
you,
if
you
request
for
a
particular
area,
on
a
frequent
or
regular
basis,
although
it's
not
a
demonstration,
the
farmer's
market
is
an
example
of
that
they
deal
with
our
special
events.
F
People,
because
they're
in
marion
square
on
a
weekly
basis
during
the
season
demonstration,
will
require
the
use
of
city
resources,
staffing
or
departments
besides
the
police
department,
if
the
fire
department
has
to
get
out
there,
our
sanitation
people
have
to
get
out
there,
there
has
to
be
toilets,
set
up.
That
sort
of
thing
that
goes
beyond
just
a
demonstration
to
a
special
event
and
finally,
when
it's
in
the
best
interest
of
public
health,
safety
and
welfare
to
to
plan
that
ahead
of
time,
weapons
open
carry
is
prohibited.
F
However,
this
only
applies
to
permanent
events.
So
if
you're,
a
small
group
or
a
spontaneous
demonstration,
you
technically
would
be
able
to
open.
Carry
I'd
also
point
out
that,
although
you
can't
open
carry
out
a
demo,
a
permitted
demonstration,
you
can
still
conceal,
carry
out
a
permit
demonstration.
F
So
there
still
may
be
people
with
firearms
at
the
demonstration
they
just
can't
be
carried
openly
and,
of
course,
you
can't
point
or
present
a
firearm
or
brandish
any
other
kind
of
weapon,
and
that
applies
to
all
first
amendment
demonstrations,
whether
or
not
they're
permitted
there's
an
application
process.
Basically,
there's
a
form
we
provide
you
with
that,
helps
you
to
kind
of
outline.
What
your
plan
is
we'll
work
with
you
on
that
or,
if
you're
not
quite
sure
what
type
of
plan
you
you're
looking
for.
F
And
then
we
have
to
respond
to
your
requests
within
one
week
of
filing
or
within
two
days
if
the
application
is
filed.
Seven
days
less
than
seven
days
before
the
event
and
the
things
that
we
consider
in
granting
a
permit
or
not,
granting
a
permit
is
what
would
be
a
substantial
interference
with
vehicular
pedestrian
traffic,
diversion
of
police
resources,
undue
interference
with
fire
and
police
protection,
interference
with
movement
of
firefighting,
equipment,
injury
to
persons
or
property
or
provoking
of
disorderly
conduct,
expeditious
movement
from
point
of
origin
to
point
of
termination.
F
The
free
passage
of
vehicular,
pedestrian
traffic
or
ingress
and
egress
from
buildings,
elements
or
structures,
and,
as
you
know,
the
you
know,
the
streets
of
charleston
are
are
very
narrow
and
at
times
crowded,
and
so
that
that
comes
into
play
as
to
marches
and
demonstrations.
Where
you
know
what
are
the
big
open
areas
where
we
can
put
a
large
group
of
people?
That's
not
going
to
basically
stop
the
you
know
the
st
the
city
from
functioning
or
create
situations
where
people
are
in
in
close
proximity
and
in
conflict
as
well.
F
If
we
have
a
big
event
like
the
bridge
run
going
on
on
a
weekend,
and
you
want
to
have
a
demonstration
in
marion
square-
obviously
that's
not
going
to
work,
because
we've
already
got
a
bunch
of
people
there
for
another
purpose.
So
we
may
say
you
know
you
want
the
weekend
before
you
want
the
weekend
after
is
there
another
location?
You
can
do
this
and
try
and
work
with
you
that
way
and
then
again,
there's
a
there's
time
periods
for
whether
or
not
a
person
is
going
to
accept
those
alternative
conditions.
F
Counter
protesters
are
subject
to
the
same
permitting
requirements
if
over
25
people.
So
if
you're
going
to
have
a
counter
protest
to
some
other
group
that
you
know
is
going
to
be
protesting
on
a
weekend,
you
have
to
apply
for
that
permit
or
potentially
be
in
violation,
you're
subject
to
all
the
same
laws
and
regulations,
regardless
of
whether
it's
permitted
or
not
whether
you're
a
protester
or
counter
protester.
F
Everyone
has
the
same
rules
imposed
on
them.
If
more
than
one
group
wants
to
demonstrate
at
the
same
time
and
location
is
another,
the
chief
has
the
authority
to
assign
groups
designated
areas
to
preserve
the
peace
and
priority
of
location
will
be
given
to
the
group
that
applied
for
the
permit.
First,
however,
if
there's
a
group
that
wants
to
apply
frequently
for
the
same
location
and
there's
another
group,
that's
also
interested
in
that
group.
We
at
times
will
alternate
between
the
groups
as
to
who
gets
the
priority
of
location.
F
F
If
you
violate
the
rules
or
regulations,
the
chief
can
revoke
your
permit
or,
if
an
event,
pops
up
in
the
city.
That
would
become
a
public
safety
issue.
F
And
then
these
are
the
regulations
that
apply
to
all
demonstrations,
regardless
of
whether
or
not
you
have
a
permit,
they're
spelled
out
in
code
section
2552,
I've
kind
of
their
language
is
is
more
fleshed
out
in
the
actual
coordinates,
but
I've
kind
of
summarized
it
a
little
bit
here.
You
can't
interfere
with
vehicular
or
pedestrian
traffic.
F
You
can't
place
structures
or
equipment
on
public
property,
except
is
authorized
by
permit.
That
means
you
can't
set
up
tables
and
tents
and
and
other
other
things
unless
you
plan
for
that
with
the
with
the
permit,
you
can't
obviously
can't
damage
property.
You
can't
hang
or
attach
or
place
any
flags
placards
or
signs
on
public
property.
F
F
You
have
to
comply
with
any
signs
posted
in
connection
with
an
event
example
being
under
the
state
code.
If
an
event
is
not
to
have
open,
carry
there's
supposed
to
be
signs
placed
around
the
event
notifying
people
of
that.
So
you
need
to
abide
by
that.
You
have
to
comply
with
federal
state
or
local
laws
and
regulations.
Our
park
rules
and
lawful
orders
of
law
enforcement.
F
Any
violation
is
a
misdemeanor,
that's
triable
in
municipal
court
and
punishable
by
up
to
30
days
in
jail
or
a
fine
of
up
to
500.
That's
for
violation
of
the
permit
ordinance
and
the
rules
and
regulations.
Of
course,
if
you
commit
some
other
kind
of
criminal
offense,
an
assault
or
an
arson,
or
something
like
that,
that's
that
may
be
punishable
under
a
felony
level.
Offense
and
then
I've
got
a
couple
resources
here.
F
One
is
a
link
to
our
website.
I
think
captain
brooder
does
a
video
there
and
there's
a
link
to
our
our
form
and
and
some
other
some
other
information
regarding
the
permit
process
and
then
the
second
one
is
an
actual
link
to
the
the
application
form.
A
One
question
that
came
up.
Thank
you
very
much
for
presenting
that
detailed
information.
One
question
that
did
come
up
that
we
were
chatting
about
was
the
availability
of
this
presentation
for
the
community
at
large
and
captain
brooder
responded
back
in
the
chat,
and
I
asked
him
if
he
would
share
his
response
at
this
time
as
well.
D
So
I
thought
you
were
talking
about
just
the
open
carry
that's
the
one
we
did
for
the
public
like
the
meeting
before
and
I
interrupted
in
between
his
two
presentations.
So
that's
the
one
we
have
that
we're
working
on
with
the
15..
Were
you
talking
about
this?
This
presentation
here.
F
A
F
A
Okay,
your
hand
was
up.
Okay,
I'm
sorry,
councilman
harris
jerry.
E
Yeah
I
asked
in
in
the
chat
I
asked
captain
bruder,
whether
or
not
any
of
the
policies,
ordinances
or
directives
of
the
department
have
been
changed
or
in
the
process
of
being
changed
as
a
result
of
the
adoption
of
this
ordinance.
And
the
second
question
is
whether
or
not
there
have
been
any
violations
or
complaints
that
have
been
filed
since
the
ordinances
have
been
created
or
things
going
well.
D
I'll
tackle
both
those
the
first
one
is
yes,
this
is
going
to
affect
gym
over
54,
which
is
special
operations
permits
and
events.
That
policy
is
already
undergoing
a
pretty
significant
overhaul,
with
some
organizational
changes
and
stuff
going
on.
So
it's
one
of
the
one
of
the
many
for
those
of
you
that
were
on
this
traffic
top
sub.
D
One
other
thing
when
I,
when
this
ordinance
came
into
effect,
because
it
was
more
or
less
improved
and
immediately
went
into
effect,
or
there
wasn't
any
waiting
period
or
warning
stage
of
this
ordinance.
So
I
did
that
rather
quick
video
that
steve
referred
to,
and
we
also
anybody
that
had
ever
submitted
or
requested
a
permit
through
us
before
they
used
to
be
called
parade
permits,
we
emailed
them
all
the
links,
the
new
application,
an
explanation
and
everybody
pretty
much
has
ever
gotten.
D
One
of
these
has
my
cell
phone
number
and
offered
to
answer
any
questions.
So
there's
been
some
feedback.
We've
received
from
some
groups
about
some
of
the
language
and
those
types
of
things
that
we're
working
through
and
looking
to
see
those
some
improvement
there.
But
overall
we
haven't
heard
of
too
many
complaints
regarding
the
process
itself
of
of
obtaining
a
permit
for
our
first
administration.
A
A
A
Andrea,
I
hope
you
see
where
george
palmer
councilman
palmer
has
joined
us.
He
joined
early.
I
just
didn't
get
to
great.
Thank
you.
A
Thanks
again
steve
for
presenting
the
information
to
us,
we'll
move
on
now
to
the
subcommittee
reports.
Communications.
Our
subcommittee
chairman
is
councilman
tamborino
policies
and
procedures.
Our
subcommittee
chairman
is
councilman
harris
and
traffic.
Stop
cam
councilman
shields
is
not
able
to
be
on
with
us
tonight
and
ryan.
His
intention
was
to
have
councilman
ryan
davis
present.
I
don't
see
ryan
on,
so
what
we
will
do
is
we
will
make
certain
to
andrew.
A
We
can
make
certain
that
we
have
him
share
the
report
at
the
december
meeting
and
I'm
sure
he'll
probably
be
combining
the
information
that
he
was
going
to
share
tonight,
but
he
did
have
a
report
from
traffic
stop.
I
do
know
that
captain
bruder
has
a
presentation
that
he
shared
with
the
traffic
stop
subcommittee
during
their
last
meeting,
so
captain
bruder
that
would
instead
of
waiting
until
the
update
section.
You
can
certainly
present
it
at
that
time.
As
a
part
of
the
subcommittee
section
for
traffic
stop.
C
Yes,
madam
chair,
thank
you.
We've
submitted
our
report
in
writing
by
by
way
of
our
minutes,
so
I
think
most
of
the
information
that
we
have
is
contained
in
there.
The
highlights
are
obviously
it's
this
the
two
discussions.
We
just
had
a
good
segues
into
the
highlights
of
what
the
communication
subcommittee
wants
to
do
so
for
everybody's
benefit.
We
were
originally,
I
believe,
chartered
to
look
at
the
look
at
the
audit
for
the
suggestions
on
ways
to
improve
communications,
and
I
think
you
know.
C
Over
the
past
year
we've
met
we've
made
recommendations,
we've
made
motions
to
the
cpac,
and
basically
we
proposed
our
strategies
and
things
that
we
we
recommended
the
cpac
and
I
think,
for
the
most
part,
we've
we've
reached
our
value
in
that.
So,
as
a
cpa,
you
know,
as
a
subcommittee,
we
really
looked
at
what's
what's
our
purpose
moving
forward
now
that
we've
really,
you
know,
come
up
with
good
strategies
and
we
we've
actually
come
up
with
an
idea
and
we'd
like
to
make
a
motion.
C
Madam
chair,
if
you
don't
mind,
this
is
coming
out
of
our
subcommittee,
the
the
communications
subject,
I'm
making
a
motion
from
the
cpac
that
the
communications
subcommittee
be
repurposed
to
execute
on
actions
approved
by
cpac
related
to
communications,
education,
community
outreach
efforts.
A
Thank
you,
councilman
tamborino
you've
heard
the
motion
council
members.
It
comes
from
committee.
It
needs
no.
Second,
as
a
point
of
order.
Before
we
proceed
steve
roomland,
do
we
have
sufficient
number
for
a
quorum
to
be
able
to
take
a
vote
tonight.
A
Wonderful,
wonderful,
okay
members,
you've
heard
the
motion
repurpo
repurposing
of
the
subcommittee
communications
subcommittee
for
establishing
information
sessions.
All
those
in
favor.
A
A
A
C
No
man
with
this
yeah,
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
go
back
and
put
together
a
recommended
agenda
of
items.
So
basically,
fellow
cpac,
council
members,
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
we've
already
had
to
prove
that
we
create
you
know
the
cpac
should
conduct,
we
would
say,
almost
monthly
educational
sessions
for
the
public
on
a
variety
of
different
topics.
C
Now
we
want
to
take
that
under
our
umbrella
and
actually
execute
on
those,
so
we'll
develop
a
calendar
of
topics
we'll
work
with
the
the
resources,
the
police
department
for
content,
as
well
as
for
scheduling
and
the
logistics
of
it,
and
so
that
we
can
get
an
audience
of
the
entire
city
rather
than
specific
districts,
and
we
wanted
to,
I
will
say,
as
a
matter
of
information,
you
know
we
we
do
like
the
topic
of
one
of
our
monthly
topics
being.
C
First,
amendment
demonstrations,
one
of
the
topics
being
the
new
open
carry,
and
I
think
the
recommendation
for
our
first
session
would
be
to
review,
have
a
review
of
the
police
department's
mid-year
report
on
the
implementation
of
the
racial
bias
audit
recommendations,
so
that
we
start
getting
that
community
involvement
in
something.
That's
really
khan
was
our
focus
on.
What
we
were
creating
in
the
first
place
is
to
help
bridge
that
communication
gap.
So
that's
our
goal
moving
forward
and
thank
you,
everybody
for
your
support.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilwoman
grant
your
hand
is
raised.
Do
you
have
a
question?
Oh
it
looks
like
she
pulled
it
down.
A
I
think
so.
Yes,
okay
policies
and
procedures,
councilman
harris.
E
Certainly,
we
met
on
september,
8th
on
the
department
updated
us
on
activities
associated
with
particularly
making
enhancements
to
the
information
that
can
be
gotten
to
the
public
regarding
the
complaint
process,
that's
reflected
in
the
minutes.
In
addition,
there
was
language
you
recall
from
our
last
meeting
two
minutes
ago.
We
recommended
that
the
department
is
sir
insert
into
written
directive
5
language
concerning
cpac's
participation,.
E
E
During
our
discussion,
we
recommended
that
the
phrase
related
well
to
community
policing
be
removed,
and
that
will
be
programs
related
to
policing
and
services
suggested
and
suggested
changes
in
that
discussion
we
recommended
that
back.
It's
my
understanding
that
command
staff
has
had
that
discussion
and
will
accept
that
proposed
amendment,
and
with
that
being
the
case
emerging
from
our
our
discussion,
we
would
like
to
have
the
full
council
accept
or
act
to
accept
the
language.
E
As
you
see
on
this
on
the
screen.
What
would
happen
is
in
the
one
two
three
fourth
line,
where
it
says
related
to
community
policing.
We
would
take
community
out
and
just
put
two
policing
services
and
suggested
changes
to
cpd,
captain
mcfadden
or
catherine
bruder,
because
I
don't
see
captain
cortela
on
they
accurately
reflect.
C
E
Okay,
so
I'll
make
that
motion.
Madam
chair.
A
A
E
And
and
finally,
madam
chair,
the
included
in
that
powerpoint
and
captain
mcfadden,
if
you
could
go
to
the
policy
review,
slide
real
quick
slide
two,
I
guess
yeah
that
one.
E
This
graph
shows
that
six
have
been
completed.
36
are
in
progress
and
11
not
assigned,
and
captain
cortela
you
left
off
the
one
that
you
guys
deleted,
and
one
and
one
one
policy
has
been
deleted
altogether
attached
to
our
minutes
is
the
actual
grid
of
those
policies,
who's
responsible
for
it,
the
deadline
and
the
current
status.
A
Thank
you
very
much
would
andrea
just
for
purposes
of
these
minutes.
Would
you
also
include
the
grid
that
the
policy
procedure
committee
submitted
as
a
part
of
their
report,
so
that
we
make
sure
that
when
everyone
is
reviewing
the
minutes
at
a
later
date,
you
know
from
this
meeting
they
will
have
that
to
be
able
to
reflect
on
sure.
Thank
you.
E
E
Chair
one
one,
one
other
observation
in
our
discussion-
and
I
think
captain
bruder
has
has
made
this
observation
both
at
the
traffic
stop
committee.
In
early
in
this
discussion,
there
are
a
broad
range
of
changes
and
policies
being
made
by
the
department
and
and
the
policy
committee
will
make
an
effort
to
to
pay
attention
to
that
captain
cortela
mentioned.
E
I
think
in
particular
in
our
last
discussion.
Is
it
the
general
order,
one
that
has
to
do
with
mission
and
and
objectives?
Is
that
currently
under
major
review.
H
E
Okay,
I
would
just
suggest
as
soon
as
you
have
that
available,
if
you
would
mind
sharing
that
with
us,
so
that
we
can
make
that
a
priority
in
terms
of
our
community.
Our
subcommittee's
review.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Councilman
harris
with
the
traffic
stop.
As
you
heard,
I
did
ask
captain
ruder
if
he
would
share
the
very
informative
presentation
or
excerpt
from
that
presentation
that
he
shared
with
the
traffic
stop
committee.
I
think
you
will
find
the
information
very
informative
and
you'll
see
that
he's
really
on
a
great
track
to
being
able
to
get
information
that
is
quantifiable
and
able
to
be
shared
with
us
in
the
community
for
understanding
the
demographics
and
all
of
the
traffic
stops
captain
brooder.
D
All
right,
you're,
very
welcome,
so
so
what
I've
presented
to
the
traffic
stop
subcommittee
is
some
things
that
are
going
on
in
the
traffic
unit
and
traffic
team.
The
traffic
team
is
composed
of
not
just
the
traffic
unit,
but
also
hardware,
patrol
and
transport,
and
some
extra
duties
there,
but
we're
looking
at
the
traffic
unit
there
and
that
was
kind
of
some
key
pieces
in
the
audit.
There
recommendations
or
findings
one
two
and
three
were
specific
to
the
traffic
unit
and
their
traffic
enforcement
strategies
and
those
types
of
things.
D
So
earlier
this
year
the
traffic
team
was
moved
under
special
operations.
So
it's
now
under
my
command
and
we're
we're
looking
at
a
whole
lot
of
different
things.
But
one
of
those
things
is
this:
the
overall
strategy
which
is
to
reduce
collisions,
especially
dangerous,
collisions
in
the
city.
D
D
We
are
reviewing
and
kind
of
overhauling
their
policies
specific
to
them,
but
the
essence
of
what
the
audit
was
was
talking
about
in
recommendation.
1.1
is
having
a
specific
general
order,
is
already
there
we're
just
refining
and
making
all
that
kind
of
work
together
in
more
of
a
collaborative
and
comprehensive
way.
So
you
know
we
can
see
some
big
strides
and
we're
starting
to
do
a
lot
of
things
with
our
data
and
we'll
throw
some
numbers
stuff
up
here
in
just
a
second.
The
first
one
is
a
graph
of
just
traffic
citations.
D
It's
a
about
a
five-year
review
of
traffic
citations
broken
down
by
quarter.
It
does
have
when
I
say
traffic
citations,
it
can
be.
We
can
write
citations
for
any
number
of
things
and
not
just
traffic
stops.
D
D
You
may
ask
yourself,
as
you
look
at
this:
the
blue
is
the
non-moving
violations
and
the
golden
color,
the
yellowish
color
there
is,
is
moving
and
so
likely
all
those
came
from
traffic
stops
or
traffic
collisions,
and
you
know
where
this
is
important
for
the
traffic
unit.
Is
the
traffic
unit
typically
writes
most
of
the
the
traffic
citations
for
the
department.
D
They
write
a
good
predominance
of
it,
so
they
kind
of
lead
the
way
and
where
they
go
is
where
the
patrol
officers
tend
to
follow,
and
this
only
captures
the
citations
being
issued.
D
Well,
we
were
a
good
couple
months
into
our
audit
and
we
found
out
that
some
traffic
officers
were
issuing
in
abundance
non-moving
violations.
So
there
was
a
definite
culture
that
perceived
traffic
enforcement.
Is
as
inviting
a
lot
of
tickets
leading
to
a
lot
of
encounters
with
the
public-
and
you
know
that's
why,
in
the
audit
having
a
strategic
plan
for
the
traffic
unit
is
so
important?
What
should
they
be
doing?
Why
are
we
doing
stops?
D
Do
we
need
to
be
stopping
people
for
the
reasons
we
are,
and
you
see
that
kind
of
big
shift
in
the
blue
line
where
it's
almost
cut
in
half
and
then
down
to
a
third
from
where
it
was,
and
the
total
number
of
stops
went
down
this
last
column
quarter
two
here,
not
the
second
from
the
right
here
is
a
less
than
two
thousand
tickets,
so
a
third
of
the
tickets,
but
now
almost
55
percent
of
the
tickets
60
almost
60
tickets
are
for
moving
violations,
those
things
which
impact
collisions
those
things
which
have
the
potential
to
save
a
life.
D
Cultural
shift
there
you
can
see
how
using
data
can
help
reinforce
whether
or
not
our
policies
and
our
expectations
are
being
met.
More
than
just
counting
a
number
of
okay,
how
many
tickets
did
we
write?
Six
thousand,
eight
thousand
nine
thousand
one
of
these
years
and
quarters
in
2017
a
couple
of
them
were
9
000..
Well,
if
those
are
all
for
for
things
that
that
aren't
going
to
help
us
achieve
our
objective
of
reducing
collisions,
then
they're
really
just
the
possibility
of
a
negative
encounter
that
we're
having
with
the
public.
D
So
this
is
one
of
the
first
ways
we're
starting
to
use
data
and
see
these
things.
This
is
just
again
citation
data
over
the
years
and
the
data
that
this
was
obtained
from
is
on
our
public
dashboard.
Any
any
citizen
could
download
it
and
see
these
data
and
do
these
points
and
measures
here.
So
to
me,
this
shows
not
only.
We
can
say
that
we've
we've
changed
our
policy,
that
we
have
a
strategic
plan
for
the
traffic,
but
this
kind
of
gives
the
data
to
the
proof
in
the
pudding
there.
D
You
can
see
that
shift.
That
happened
between
the
first
or
second
quarter
of
2019
into
the
third
quarter,
2019
and
then,
as
that
progressed
and
stayed
in
that
manner.
So
the
other
thing
that
y'all
heard
a
lot
from
is
we're
working
on
systems
to
talk
to
each
other.
Our
traffic's,
our
traffic
stops,
are
called
into
cad
that
doesn't
talk
to
where
the
tickets
and
the
warnings
go
because
that's
a
state-run
system.
So
I
think
I
came
on
before
and
talked
about
how
we're
going
to
do
an
fcc
for
every
proactive
shot
field.
Contact.
D
That's
going
to
allow
us
to
capture
data
in
a
way
that
can
be
used
to
determine
if
our
objectives
are
being
met.
Why
are
we
doing
stops?
Where
is
the
breakdown?
Where
should
we
be
doing
education
for
us
for
the
community,
or
you
know,
leaders
out
there
where?
Where
are
gaps,
and
where
can
we
start
improving?
And
it's
going
to
give
us
the
opportunity
to
monitor
what
I
what
I
call
some
unintended
outcomes
or
side
effects?
D
You
know
if
we
deploy
an
operation
in
an
area
where
we
have
this
objective
and
it's
creating
some
disparate
numbers.
As
far
as
demographic
goes,
we
may
need
to
adjust
that
we
may
need
to
see
what's
causing
that.
Why
is
this
instruction
causing
this
outcome
and
then
adjust
from
there
so
yeah?
The
next
screen
I'm
going
to
show
you
here
is-
is
a
sample.
It's
just
a
screenshot
it
it
is.
It
doesn't
work,
it's
just
a
picture,
but
it
is
what
we're
working
toward.
D
D
We
can
see
what
percentage
it
breaks
down
the
lower
left
hand,
it's
just
who
was
searched,
how
many
people
want
weren't
searched
and
so
we're
continuing
to
work
with
our
data
data
analysis,
people
to
to
be
able
to
answer
the
questions
that
we're
wanting.
It's
going
to
be
a
kind
of
a
evolving
process
here,
but
having
this
data
available
is
is
huge
for
us
at
cpd,
we've
asked
these
questions.
We've
had
these
questions,
but
it's
never
been
readily
accessible.
D
Nor
has
it
been
in
a
way
that
we
can
look
live
time
and
narrow
down.
You
see
a
whole
bunch
of
filters
over
here,
so
this
next
screen
is
just
all
I
did
was
add
a
filter
for
just
the
traffic
unit
and
that's
what
we're
looking
at
here
so
in
july,
when
traffic
has
a
very
clear
mission
of
reducing
collisions.
D
Writing
you
know
doing
enforcement
in
areas
for
removing
violations.
Here's
who
they
stopped.
Here's
what
the
breakdown
was.
You
see
they.
They
didn't
search
anybody
unless
they
were
taking
them
to
jail.
There
was
no
probable
call,
searches
or
anything
like
that.
They're
very
focused
on
you
know
reducing
collisions.
D
D
So
that's
our
benchmark
and
and
being
able
to
see
this
data
see
okay
traffic
went
out
and
did
this
we
could
be
able
when
we
get
the
final
version
narrow
it
down
to
okay.
I
want
to
see
what
they
did
in
west
ashley.
What
were
the
patrol
on
just
these
three
days?
They
were
out
there
targeting
this
issue,
who
were
they
stopping?
D
How
is
it
being
affected
and
eventually
we
hope
to
be
able
to
tie
in
other
things,
so
we
can
see
that
moving
and
non-moving
component
to
it
as
well.
Are
we
out
there
doing
the
things
that
are
meeting
our
objectives
and
then,
how
is
that
affecting
our
objective?
Are
we
actually
reducing?
Collisions
is
going
to
be
the
next
step
to
all
this
just
from
the
traffic
unit
standpoint
of
this,
so
this
is
this-
is
where
we're
kind
of
seeing
all
this
stuff
come
into
play.
D
D
I
know
the
patrol
side
of
this
is
working
on
recommendation
5.1,
which
is
you
know,
having
that
strategic
idea
or
that
strategic
plan
for
using
traffic
stops
in
a
bigger
picture,
not
just
for
traffic
enforcement
and
reducing
collisions,
but
how
are
traffic
stops
used
across
the
board?
Well,
then,
you
can
see
even
more
how
this
tool
is
more
beneficial
and
it
can
help
us
monitor,
what's
going
on
out
there
and
and
keep
an
eye
on
objectives
being
met
and
those
both
side
effects
that
might
be
happening.
So
that's
that's
what
I
have.
A
Thank
you
captain
brooder
there
there
is
one
question:
would
you
give
an
example
of
a
common
non-moving
citation.
D
So
non-moving
citations
would
be
any
of
your
vehicle
equipment
violations,
so
cracked
windshield
window
tent's
too
dark
registration.
You
know
your
sticker
on
the
back
of
the
car
if
it's
outdated
or
your
tags
are
expired,
any
any
of
those
like
vehicle
registration
or
vehicle
equipment
violations
or
the
non-moving
non-moving
violations.
A
Any
other
questions
at
this
time
for
many.
D
We
are
steadily
out
there.
I
know
that's
one
of
lieutenant
wojo.
He
has
them
out
there.
Monitoring
collisions
collisions
are
up
significantly
in
daniel
island
area,
so
they're
out
there
doing
a
lot
of
traffic
enforcement.
Our
officers
go
out
there
on
a
regular
basis.
To
kind
of
monitor
that
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
frustration
with
traffic
and
I
share
that
I've
spent
over
an
hour
coming
to
work
down
in
I-26
every
day
this
week
hour
and
a
half
this
morning.
D
D
Well,
I
think
that
the
partnership
is
actually
going
up
and
down
the
bridges
right
like
that's
where
it's
happening,
which
I
think
most
of
those
are
in
ours,
but
I'll
double
check
with
lieutenant
krazowski.
I'm
sure
he
has
conversations
with
mount
pleasant.
You
know
draw
some
traffic
on
a
regular
basis,
but
I'll
make
sure
that
he's
touched
with
them.
A
A
It
was
a
41-page
document
that
captain
cortellin
shared
with
me
to
share
with
everyone,
and
I
did
email
that
out,
but
I
did
not.
I
forgot
to
ask
for
confirmation
of
receipt
of
that.
So
if
you
please
check,
someone
will
check
to
make
sure
that
came
through.
If
not,
I
can
certainly
resend
and
with
the
motion
accepted
from
vice
chairman
tamborino.
Regarding
excuse
me,
the
repurposing
of
the
communications
subcommittee
that
covers
that
action
item
that
we
had
listed
and
the
remaining
action
item
I
found
was
one
regarding
councilman
harris
and
mr
roomelin.
A
E
A
That's
the
next
agenda
item.
What
I
did
was
I
lifted
that
actually
from
the
minutes
for
the
agenda,
because
we
mentioned
that
at
the
last
meeting
that
we
wanted
to
have
that.
Thank
you,
though,
councilman
harris
any
other
items
that
anyone
noticed
I
may
have
missed
in
going
through
the
minutes.
E
Madam
chair
from
the
previous
meeting,
the
discussion
about
the
your
review
of
the
reports
from
the
may
30th
31st
activities
in
2020
that
that
I
don't
recall,
was
having
discuss
what
your
findings
were
on
that.
Yet.
A
Correct,
that's
the
the
oia
report.
I
just
asked
about
the
2020
officer's
internal
affairs
report.
E
Yeah
but
specifically,
the
request
was,
I
believe,
a
couple
meetings
ago
for
you
to
review
the
specific
complaints
that
were
summarized
in
the
report
and
then
make
a
report
back
to
us
or
assess
whether
or
not
there
was
any
anything
worthwhile
for
us
to
take
a
look
at
that.
We
might
be
able
to
make
recommendations
to
the
department
around
the
processing
of
complaints.
A
Based
on
my
review
of
the
document,
that's
why
I
released
it
to
everyone
so
that
everyone
could
get
a
chance
to
see
it,
so
we
would
have
full
disclosure
and
transparency.
Captain
patella
and
deputy
chief
walker
were
very
kind
to
share
that
voluminous
document,
it's
41
pages,
so
if
everyone
we
could
certainly
put
that
on
the
next
agenda.
Please,
council
members
review
that
internal
affairs
report.
A
It
is
very
informative
because
it
not
only
talks
about
that
event.
There's
a
table
of
contents
at
the
very
front
of
it.
I
will
so
that
it
will
come
to
the
front
of
your
email
boxes,
I'll
resend,
that
to
you
and
captain
mcfadden
I'll
copy
you
on
it,
because
I
don't
think
you
were
on
it
at
that
time.
I
think
we
had
wendy's
tavern
copied
on
it
at
that
time,
so
I
will
resend
that
to
everyone.
A
Thank
you
any
other
items
and
then
captain
patella,
if
you're,
a
deputy
chief
walker
at
the
december
meeting,
would
prepare
to
do
any
discussions
with
us
regarding
it.
I
think
that
would
be
in
order.
H
Absolutely
ma'am
we
could
put
something
together
and
make
a
robust
presentation
for
cpac.
A
Now
the
audit
mid-year
report,
captain
patella,
I
believe,
you're,
going
to
give
us
a
an
update.
Actually,
when
chief
reynolds
and
I
talked
prior
to
the
start
of
the
meeting
as
he
was
sharing
with
me,
his
apologies
for
not
being
able
to
join
us
tonight,
we
changed.
We
did
a
word
change,
it's
an
audit,
mid-year
update
and
if
you
could
share
with
us
the
dates
that
your
time
frame
of
the
time
schedule
that
you
have
for
for
the
update
and
any
ceiling
information
that
you
can
share.
H
Thank
you
ma'am.
I
appreciate
the
time
on
this
topic.
As
you
know,
it's
very
important
and
we
are
working
hand-in-hand
with
cageum
on
the
audit
as
well,
and
they
requested
a
mid-year
audit
report,
probably
around
april
or
may
of
2021,
and
we
were
working
on
as
a
department
during
the
shift
in
change
with
the
procedural
justice
coordinator.
H
H
So
the
good
news
is
is
that
miss
stiver
worked
diligently
on
the
dashboard.
It
is
functional.
It
is
up
and
running
the
only
changes
that
I
want
to
make
to.
It
are
some
of
the
aesthetics
of
it
to
make
it
more
presentable.
If
you
will-
and
we
are
hoping
to
get
that
out
around
the
31st
of
october
or
the
absolute
last
would
be
the
end
of
the
first
week
in
november.
H
Like
I
said,
the
dashboard
is
up,
it
was
made
through
our
city
gis's
department,
and
we
have
to
input
the
information
through
an
excel
a
database
essentially,
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
year,
we
will
have
an
end
of
the
year
audit
report
and
we
will
meet
with
you
to
discuss
what
we
are
asking
for
cpac
to
do
and
help
us
complete
that
report
with
your
feedback
as
as
a
whole,
and
we
are
eager
to
get
that
process
started
and
really
make
this
relationship.
H
You
know
having
cpac
be
more
involved
in
what
we
do.
In
addition
to
that,
I
took
down
mr
harris's
how
the
vote
was
in
reference
to
general
order.
5.5.
H
H
B
Yes,
can
you
go
over
those
categories
for
response
to
the
audit
again.
H
Sure
we're
gonna
have
three
categories.
The
first
one
will
be
full
compliance,
and
all
that
means
is
that
what
the
auto
recommendation
is
we've
achieved
that
and
it's
fully
complied.
The
second
one
will
be
full
compliance
annual
review
and
that
will
be
it's
fully
complied
with,
but
we'll
need
an
annual
review.
H
Some
of
that
might
be
our
use
of
force
policy,
some
training
initiatives
they
ask
for
in
there
and
some
other
initiatives
within
our
blue
team
software
system
that,
as
we
develop
and
our
compliance
office
does
checks.
You
know
we
find
from
time
to
time
that
we
need
to
make
more
updates
to
it,
and
one
of
the
updates
was
that
we
learned
mid-year
this
year,
as
shown
in
the
oie.
Annual
report
is
the
deployment
of
swat
as
a
use
of
force.
H
H
So
when
you
see
this
and
it's
extremely
hard
to
visualize
but
within
the
pie
chart
and
you
click
on
the
internal
affairs
site
and
then
when
you
click
on
ia,
it
goes
to
all
the
audit
recommendations.
You
would
then
see
the
ones
that
are
color
coded,
such
as
full
compliance,
full
compliance,
annual
review
and
partially
completed.
H
What
we've
done
to
actually
take
the
proper
steps
to
ensure
that
it
has
been
completed
and
once
again,
just
because
we
say
it's
been
completed,
if
you
would
go
through
it
and
you
would
say
hey,
I
don't
understand
what
this
means.
Or
can
you
give
me
more
clarification
we'll
be
happy
to
do
that
at
any
point
in
time.
H
I
I
think
tony
just
it's
a
real
good
question,
but
I
think
tony
just
covered
the
reason
why
we
decided
not
to
have
a
so
convoluted
document
published
because
even
just
trying
to
explain
the
dashboard,
the
document
that
was
produced
would
have
really
blew
your
mind
just
as
far
as
understanding
and
and
comprehension
of
some
of
the
some
of
the
areas
that
were
covered.
So
I
just
wanted
to
at
least
throw
that
out.
There.
E
You
so
captain
cortela
the
conversation
that
the
data
that
will
be
reported
will
be
that
datas
generated
by
the
department
in
terms
of
activities
that
have
been
taken
in
your
assessment.
The
discussion
about
a
quote-unquote
third-party
independent
assessment
of
where
we
are
in
implementing
the
the
racial
bias
recommendations.
H
So
we're
still
in
discussions
with
the
chief
on
that
and
the
deputy
chiefs
and
seeing
what
is
the
best
way
to
achieve
that.
Our
first
step
is
going
to
be
is
once
we
are
completed
with
our
annual
report,
for
the
audit
is
actually
pushing
that
out
to
you
cpac
to
actually
look
at
it
as
an
independent
board,
and
let
us
know
your
feedback
on
the
thoughts
of
what
we're
saying
that
we're
doing,
and
at
least
start
that
conversation
we
haven't
really
devol
or
dived
in
too
much
deep
into
another
third
party
looking
at
it.
H
But
this
is
a
first
step
that
we
feel
that's
actually
tangible
and
we
could
accomplish
something
that
we
have
a
relationship
with
and,
as
you
know,
we
have
a
good
relationship.
You
go
give
us
suggestions.
We
will
either
agree
or
disagree
and
have
that
healthy
debate.
If
you
will
and
as
you
know,
we
are
willing
to
work
such
as
you
know
the
different
policies
so
far,
so
that's
our
response
initially
is
using
cpac
to
help
us
out
with
the
annual
audit
report
or
the
end
of
the
year.
Audit
report
for
2021.
B
A
Captain
patella
deputy
chief
walker-
I
just
noticed
what
I
thought.
What
I
did
forward
to
the
cpac
members
was
the
2020
officer
office
of
internal
affairs
report
and
the
actual
presentation
of
that
you
had
on
the
may
30
31
incident.
A
A
A
We
had
the
we
did
a
policy
committee
recommendation
at
the
last
cpac
meeting
and
we
had
some
questions
on
the
response
that
the
police
department
provided
us,
and
so
I
know
deputy
chief
walker.
You
were
going
to
work
on
giving
us
an
update
or
captain
catella
wise
regarding
that
policy
committee,
subcommittee's
recommendation
that
the
the
cpac
actually
voted
on.
H
Yes,
ma'am,
we
are
still
working
on
that.
As
mr
harris
stated,
we
are
in
a
bunch
of
policy
revisions
right
now.
We
had
to
take
some
of
our
policies
and
move
them
front
ahead
of
this
one.
Just
because
of
the
time
that
we
had
haven't
reviewed
the
other
policies,
but
we
are
still
working
on
this
policy
update
and
hopefully,
we'll
get
all
these
updates
completed
by
our
deadline,
which
is
before
the
end
of
the
year,
getting
specific
questions
in
reference
to
this
policy
that
I
can
help
you
out
with
right
now.
A
No,
I
think
the
the
minutes
from
the
previous
meeting
discussed
it
fully,
and
then
the
policy
subcommittee
presented
the
recommendation
of
regarding
the
information
you're
going
to
update.
So
if
you
have
questions
regarding
that
information
before
the
policy
subcommittee's
next
meeting,
please
make
sure
to
send
those
to
councilman
harris
and
copy
councilman
tamborino
and
myself,
and
then
we
can
make
certain
that
it
gets
covered
in
time
to
be
ready
to
present
at
the
december
2nd
cpac
meeting.
G
Yes,
ma'am
just
a
few
updates.
Since
the
last
august
meeting
we
did
did
some
department-wide
training,
my
community
outreach,
sergeant-slided
master
training
with
our
officers
for
our
problem-oriented
policing
module,
which
is
housed
in
our
records
management
system.
G
The
reason
we
created
this
module
talked
about
in
the
past
is
to
capture
all
of
our
community
engagement.
Not
only
outreach
unit
is
doing,
but
also
patrol,
so
all
of
our
officers,
engagement
and
these
engagements
could
be
whether
it's
an
actual
response
to
a
crime
plan.
It
could
be
documenting
traffic
hazards,
events,
community
events,
problems
that
someone
might
raise
to
an
officer
and
the
purpose
is
to
document
not
only
the
problem
but
the
potential
solution
and
then
clear
it
out
with
the
solution
I
mean
it
could
be
as
easy.
G
As
you
know,
I
this
this
community
member
needed
something
in
their
home,
such
as
food,
and
I
was
able
to
provide
it
and
so
that
way,
we'll
be
able
to
actually
see
these
problems
and
and
pull
them
by
team
and
and
be
able
to
see
the
community
engagement
that
all
officers
are
doing
in
our
in
all
of
our
communities.
G
We
can
document
those
meetings,
any
problems
anything
raised
in
there
and
then
reach
out
to
the
appropriate
team
or
unit.
Let's
say
it's
a
traffic
traffic
issue,
that's
ongoing.
We
would
reach
out
to
paul
and
his
team,
and
then
we
could
document
that
as
well,
so
we're
having
we're
actually
being
really
successful.
I
I
I
frequently
look
through
those
in
different
teams
and
what
the
officers
are
putting
in
and
it's
nice
to
see
all
the
community
engagement
that
our
officers
are
are
encountering
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
G
So
we
we
had
a
number
of
events
in
outreach
in
our
communities
which
were
advertised
by
the
media.
Also,
local
news
stations
interviewed
a
lot
of
our
officers
on
scene
of
our
events.
We
did
a
food
packing
and
distribution
event
in
hazelwood
and
bridgeview
communities,
and
that
was
also
advertised
as
the
news
they
came
out.
G
So
that
was
a
really
good
day
for
us,
our
bridgeview
back
to
school
event,
and
we
we
also
distribute
additional
resources
in
which
we
were
able
to
give
out
food,
and
then
we
partnered
with
the
management
team
and
the
owners
there
to
to
bring
some
additional
resources
to
the
families
that
reside
in
that
neighborhood.
G
We
we
have
an
ongoing
partnership
with
greg's
groceries
for
packing
distribution,
and
then
we
also
did
national
night
out,
which
was
a
huge
hit
for
us
and
and
and
within
our
community.
So
we
did
our
national
hispanic
heritage
event
on
john's
island,
we're
trying
to
bridge
the
gap,
obviously
between
us
and
the
hispanic
community,
and
we've
also
done
some
active
shooter
training.
We
did
that
at
costco
and
we
also
do
business
risk
assessments.
G
Moving
on,
I,
you
know
I
constantly
go
over
a
reoccurring
outreach,
but
I
just
want
to
reiterate
what
we're
doing
with
some
of
these
outreach
programs
with
the
youth
and
mentorship
has
been
it's
showing
to
be
successful
as
they're
starting
to
the
youth
are
they're.
Coming
back
to
these
events
and
they're
able
to
speak
with
officers
and
then
speak
with
hear
our
guest
speakers
talk
and
have
that
engagement.
G
We
also
have
our
q,
our
quick
response
team,
which
is
our
post
overdose
outreach
program
with
our
police,
assisted
addiction
and
recovery
initiative,
which
is
party
for
short
p-a-a-r-I,
where
we
partner
with
charleston
center
for
resources
and
outreach
to
our
overdose
victims
to
assist
them
with
treatment,
not
only
them
but
also
their
families.
Maybe
the
person
who
called
us
to
help
provide
training
and
narcan
to
victims,
families,
businesses,
we
work
with
180
place
to
get
those
unique
resources.
Those
in
need
get
them
the
resources
they
need.
G
We
have
had
a
number
of
success
stories,
of
getting
victims
into
treatment
and
also
we
are
documenting
not
only
initial
contact,
but
we
are
doing
additional
contact
with
these
victims
and
we've
had
some
victims
who
wouldn't
speak
to
us
on
our
first
contact,
they've
actually
reached
out
back
out
to
us
or
on
our
second
or
third
contact,
have
agreed
to
go
into
treatment.
So
that's
been
very
successful
for
us.
We
have
a
huge
project
that
we've
been
working
on.
That
I
constantly
talk
about.
G
Is
our
youth
mentorship,
year-long
program,
low
country
youth
services,
so
we're
planning
to
engage
with
30
youth,
high-risk
youth
for
a
year-long
program
and
have
some
of
those
tough
conversations
that
we
all
discuss
on
here
a
lot
with
law
enforcement?
So
we
can
kind
of
bridge
that
gap
and
then
you
know
obviously
work
with
them
to
develop
skills
that
they'll
need
for
the
future
as
they
grow
older.
G
G
Obviously
our
police
citizens
academy
started
last
night.
A
number
of
you
were
there.
I
appreciate
your
attendance.
G
G
G
I
did
all
of
our
special
events
are
all
advertised
on
our
social
media
and
we
try
to
get
it
out
via
our
pios
to
the
media,
but
we
do
have
upcoming.
So
we
have
our
fundraiser
tomorrow,
cops
on
the
coop
and
then
our
faith
in
blue
weekend
partnering
with
st
john's
chapel,
some
churches
on
the
greenway.
We
have
a
lot
of
good
things
happening
this
weekend.
If
you're
able
to
come
out
just
come
on
out,
that's
always
a
successful
weekend.
We
also
partner
with
coastal
crisis
chaplaincy
for
faith
in
blue
every
year.
G
We
have
a
lot
of
business
donations
and
partnerships,
harris
teeter,
whole
foods,
krispy
kreme,
of
course,
costco
charleston
bicycle
for
our
bike,
the
greenway
we're
planning
our
big
halloween
howl
event
big
turnout
last
year,
and
then
we
have
some
more
upcoming
events
in
november
and
december.
G
A
And
captain
mcfadden
thank
you
for
sending
that
email
today
with
the
flyers
for
the
various
community
outreach
activities
that
are
going
on
members.
Please
take
a
look
at
those
there's
the
faith
in
blue
weekend.
A
I
Hey
miss
taun
I'll,
just
add
yeah,
just
really
to
encourage
engagement
and
participation,
especially
from
this
body.
You
know,
don't
take
it
for
granted
that
those
things
have
been.
B
I
You
we
really
need
you
know
full
engagement
as
much
as
possible
from
this
group,
especially
a
lot
of
those
initiatives,
so
we
want
to
start
seeing
not
only
you
guys,
but
you
know
our
same
speaker
give
the
our
council
people,
especially
when
we
talk
about
community
a
lot
of
these
initiatives.
You
know
it
helps
out.
I
You
know
you
representing
certain
areas
of
our
community,
so
getting
the
word
out
is
paramount
for
that
end,
so
I
just
want
to
you
know
kind
of
highlight
that
the
same
thing
as
far
as
the
citizens
academy,
you
know
I'm
so
appreciative
for
those
that
could
make
it
and
don't
for
those
that
couldn't
don't
worry.
I
We
have
another
one
here
shortly,
so
you
will
be
getting
the
invitation
as
well
with
other
council
members
that
couldn't
make
it,
but
we
want
to
make
our
platform
moving
forward
and
not
you
know,
I'm
soliciting
your
engagement
and
participation,
especially
from
this
body.
So
that's
all.
I
have.
A
Thank
you,
sir,
and
just
for
the
record
I
I
did
neglect
to
say
that
so
thank
you,
deputy
chief
walker,
many
thanks
to
council
member
tamborino,
council
members,
tamborino
palmer,
ryan
davis,
cam
shields,
jerry
harris
and
also
moyu
visited
with
us
attended
in
preparation.
I
hope
for
her
appointment
to
this
council
so
and
it
really
was
a
great
session.
So
if
you
are
not,
if
you
are
able
to
enroll
for
the
next
class
next
session
of
eight
sessions
after
this
class
graduates
in
december,
please
make
certain
to
do
that.
A
A
And
deputy
chief
reynolds-
oh
definitely
chief
reynolds
deputy
chief
walker,
if
you've
got
any
additional
updates
for
us.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
councilman
harris!
You
have
your
hand
up.
E
Oh
yeah
last
night
just
to
comment
on
the
academy.
It
was
a
great
kickoff.
I
apologize
for
being
late
during
the
discussion.
There
was
a
question
of
how
the
partnerships,
programs
and
problem
solving
initiatives
that
the
department
is
undertaking
and
being
measured.
It
sounded
like
katherine
mcfadden
that
the
the
new
mod
module,
where
you
have
the
officers
literally
logging,
the
activities
in
those
three
categories,
is
relatively
new.
E
At
what
point
do
you
are
you
thinking
about?
You
know,
taking
a
snapshot
and
perhaps
presenting
I
don't
know
if
it
belongs
to
paul's
committee
or
to
cpac.
Generally,
you
know
what
what
patterns
you're
seeing.
I
think
that
would
be
very
instructive
to
give
us
a
sense
of
you
know
how
successful
we're
being
and
where
there
may
be
issues
and
when
it
may
be
problems,
for
example,
last
night,
when
I
asked
a
question
about
where
could
he
could
the?
E
I
think
it
was
sergeant
engels
where
whether
he
could
give
an
example
of
an
application
of
the
problem-solving
technic
approach?
Most
of
what
he
presented
was
about
partnerships
and
programs
and
not
and
not
a
lot
about
problem
solving.
So,
in
a
sense,
that's
where
you're
going.
I'm
encouraged
by
that
and
hope
that
we
can
have
some
more
conversation
about
that
and
get
some
more
information
at
a
future
meeting
when
you've
got
enough
data
to
to
make
some
sense
of
it.
G
Yeah,
we
can
definitely
get
that
together.
Like
I
said
it
is
kind
of
new,
so
we
are
kind
of
still
looking
through
it,
but
it
I
mean
it
looks
like
something
good
that
we'll
be
able
to
present
to
you.
Sergeant
ingles
actually
did
lead
the
training
for
the
the
pop
module.
So
I
don't
know
that
it
was.
Maybe
it
was
just
caught
off
guard
by
the
questions.
G
I
don't
know
that
it
was
that
he
couldn't
provide
an
example
at
that
time,
but
but
we'll
certainly
work
to
get
that
data
together
for
you
to
present
something.
A
We'll
proceed
with
the
we
have
about
seven
minutes
left
in
our
meeting
tonight
with
that
deputy
chief
walker.
Are
there
any
additional
things
you
would
like
to
add
on
behalf
of
chief,
I
think
we
covered
all
of
that.
I
Yes,
ma'am,
I
think
yeah
you
covered
everything.
The
chief's
biggest
thing
was
the
upcoming
event
on
the
21st
with
miles
mcpherson.
You
really
want
to
push
that
out,
extend
the
invitation,
especially
to
this
body.
It
will
have
a
wide
variety
of
representation
of
community
stakeholders
who
we
targeted.
The
clergy
faith-based
community
he's
already
reached
out
to
several
people,
so
this
is
part
of
the
overall
initiatives
to
bring
the
community
and
and
kind
of
to
jerry's
point
with
problem
solving.
This
is
one
step
towards
that.
I
So
mr
mcpherson
is
is
world
renowned
known
his
goal
simply
is
to
teach
people
how
to
we
are
more
similar
than
different
and
show
how
to
honor
and
celebrate
our
individual
uniqueness.
So
chief
is
really
pushing
on
this
platform,
so
I
told
him
I
will
reiterate
it
and
and
pretty
much
I'm
bringing
up
on
the
call-
and
I
think
you
covered
it
during
your
session.
But,
like
I
say,
I'm
just
appreciative,
like
I
say
reiterate
from
last
night,
is
very
encouraging.
I
Like
I
said
we
want
to
get
more
participation,
we
don't
want
everyone
to
support
us
as
far
as
police.
We
need
more
jaded
people.
It's
all
about
insight,
it's
not
to
sway
opinions,
so
I
really
want
to
use
this
opportunity
to
push
our
platform
with
more
participation
in
the
citizens
academy
and
these
upcoming
events.
So
I
thank
you
so
much
for
just
for
your
leadership.
You
and
paul
with
this
body
he's
been
very,
very
helpful
for
us
and
it
don't
go
on
notice
and
we
don't
take
it
for
granted.
A
With
that
said,
looking
at
the
topics
for
our
next
meeting,
I
just
put
some
reminders
there.
We
will
do
the
election
of
the
chairman
and
vice
chairman
at
the
december
2nd
meeting
in
keeping
with
our
guidelines.
A
A
A
A
I'm
sorry,
the
minutes
from
the
june
meeting
and
the
action.
E
A
A
Okay,
perfect!
Thank
you.
It's
been
the
motion
passes,
so
the
minutes
from
the
june
meeting
are
now
approved
and
can
be
posted.
Thank
you,
audrey,
thank
you
and
thank
you
andrea
for
joining
us
tonight.
We
appreciate
you
stepping
in
bethany.
Everyone
is
doing
quite
well.
She
and
and
little
baby
are
doing
great
beautiful.
So
if
you
want
to
reach
out
to
her,
send
her
a
text
or
something
please
feel
free
to
do
so
with
that
said,
it
is
7
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