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From YouTube: City of Charleston City Council Meeting 8/17/21
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City of Charleston City Council Meeting 8/17/21
A
C
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
If
we
could
all
bow
our
heads
Heavenly
Father,
we
thank
you
for
this
day
and
what
we
consider
to
be
the
greatest
city
in
the
world
with
all
the
turmoil
going
on
in
the
world,
we
pray
for
those
in
Afghanistan
and
our
soldiers
that
are
trying
to
help
American
citizens
and
our
Afghan
allies.
C
B
B
It
was
your
dad's
leadership
that
led
to
what
I
call
the
Charleston
pledge,
as
we
say,
one
nation
under
God
with
no
pause,
so
I'll
remind
him
remind
him
that
we
remember
him
that
way.
I'm
sure
he
he
would
feel
good
about
that.
B
So
folks,
thanks
for
being
with
us
this
evening,
got
a
lot
of
citizens
joining
us
this
evening.
We're
glad
to
see
you
but
I
I
got
a
comment.
Isn't
this
a
nice
new
facility
we're
in
oh?
Oh,
we're
very
proud
of
it
and
council
member
Del
Chapo
down
to
my
far
right,
she's
a
council
lady
for
this
District,
including
Daniel
Island
and
Cain,
Hoy,
Peninsula
and
part
of
downtown.
Thank
you
for
being
our
Hostess
tonight
in
your
District.
B
We
have
just
a
couple
of
proclamations
resolutions
this
evening,
I'm
going
to
start
with
one
when
I
saw
in
the
paper
of
the
passing
of
Mr
Jim
French,
who
I'd
known
for
many
years
and
I
do
believe.
I
hope
that
his
daughter
she
could
not
be
with
us
tonight
in
person
because
she's
taking
care
of
her
mother,
Simona,
French
I,
believe
she
might
be
available
online
I
hope.
B
So
we
have
a
resolution
honoring
Mr
French,
who
passed
away
recently,
whereas
the
City
of
Charleston
wishes
to
recognize
one
of
its
most
distinguished
citizens,
James
John
French,
who
was
born
on
October
7
1926
to
Thomas
French
and
Anna
Miller
French
in
Kansas
City.
He
received
his
Early
Education
in
Kansas
and
after
graduating
from
high
school.
He
attended
journalism
School
in
Topeka
Kansas.
B
He
served
in
the
United
States
Navy
from
1948
until
retiring
in
1969
and
while
in
the
Navy
he
was
assigned
as
a
photojournalist
with
the
Navy's
All
Hands
magazine
and
also
worked
as
a
station
manager
for
radio
and
television
stations
at
different
Naval
bases.
Throughout
his
long
career,
Jim
French
interviewed
International
figures
such
as
President
Eisenhower,
Eva,
even
Fidel
Castro,
the
queen
of
Greece
actress,
Ava
Gardner,
and
he
was
the
first
photojournalist
assigned
to
the
Macon
Delta
in
Vietnam
with
the
U.S
army.
B
Ninth
Infantry
Division
among
his
citations
were
the
bronze
star
and
presidential
citation
on
August
19
1971,
two
years
after
retiring
from
the
Navy.
He
founded
the
Charleston
Chronicle,
which
he
used
as
a
way
to
distribute
information
about
issues
impacting
African
Americans
in
Charleston
to
thousands
of
readers
locally
and
nationally
2016.
He
turned
the
paper
over
to
his
grandchildren,
Tolbert
and
Damian
Smalls.
He
was
also
involved
in
the
Charleston
Community
through
his
memberships,
with
Minister's
Alliance,
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
Emancipation,
Proclamation
Association
and
the
NAACP.
B
He
leaves
behind
his
beloved
wife
of
69
years
Olivia
Jackson
French,
his
children,
James
French,
Jr,
Nanette,
French,
Smalls,
Simona's,
French
and
Jennifer
Johnson,
eight
grandchildren,
eight
great-grandchildren
and
many
more
cherished
friends
and
loved
ones.
So
it's
resolved
today
that
I
John
Jay
tecklenburg
mayor
of
the
city
of
Charles,
on
behalf
of
all
our
citizens,
and
we
extend
to
the
members
of
Mr
French's
family,
this
expression
of
our
regret
for
your
loss
and
hope
they
will
be
consoled.
We
know
that
you
will,
by
the
memories
of
his
fine
life
and
achievements.
B
Jim
French
he
was
quite
the
Charleston
citizen.
So
did
we
find
Simona
online?
Was
she
able
to
join
us
online.
B
We'll
be
sharing
this
with
the
family,
any
comments
from
any
council
members
hearing
none.
We
will
go
to
our
next
Proclamation.
This
is
recognizing
someone
in
our
presence
here
tonight.
Willie
William
buddy
bent-
and
this
is
an
amazing
story
of
a
of
service
to
one's
country
and
Mr
bent
y'all
is
with
us
this
evening
on
the
occasion
of
his
most
recent
100th
birthday,
but
listen
to
this
story
before
we
recognize
him,
whereas
William
buddy
bent
was
born,
August
7
1921
in
Charleston
South
Carolina.
B
on
April
6
of
1944.
After
basic
training,
buddy
Ben
boarded
the
ship
healed.
The
France
and
sailed
to
Scotland
then
transferred
to
England,
where
he
awaited
orders.
Once
orders
arrived,
he
was
sent
to
Omaha
Beach
on
June,
the
12th
1944,
and
upon
arriving
on
Omaha
Beach
buddy
bent
was
assigned
to
mortar
Squad,
third
third
platoon
H
Company
41st,
armed
Infantry
Regiment.
Second,
Armored
Division
and
Buddy
bent
spent
the
next
18
months
fighting
his
way
to
Berlin
during
World
War
II.
B
Along
the
way
he
fought
in
the
famous
Battle
of
the
Bulge
buddy
bent
was
captured
during
the
war
but
escaped
after
overpowering
a
German
soldier.
He
left
Germany
in
October,
1945
and
traveled
back
to
the
United
States
on
the
USS
Texarkana,
which
arrived
on
December
4th
of
1945.
Buddy
bent
received
numerous
as
medals,
including
the
presidential
unit
emblem,
combat
infantry
badge
campaign,
medal,
World,
War,
II,
Victory,
Medal,
Army
of
occupation,
medal
from
Germany
pow
metal,
Good,
Conduct,
metal
and
Belgian
foreign.
B
To
his
job
at
the
Charleston
Naval,
Shipyard,
eventually
retired,
in
1978
following
his
retirement,
he
toured
a
number
of
Charleston
area.
Schools
sharing
his
experiences
in
World
War
II,
with
the
students
he's
married
in
1947,
has
two
children:
five
grandchildren,
nine
great-grandchildren.
Today
he
lived
in
West
Ashley,
where
he
spends
time
enjoying
life
with
his
family
and
friends.
Now,
therefore,
I
John
Jay
tecklenburg
May,
the
City
of
Charleston
in
honor
of
his
100th
birthday,
do
hereby
Proclaim.
Today,
August
17th
is
Buddy
bent
day
in
the
City
of
Charleston.
Congratulations,
Mr
bent
happy
birthday.
D
Sir,
just
want
to
thank
you
for
making
the
trip
all
the
way
out
to
Daniel
Island
and
to
the
family.
Thank
you
very
much
for
you
know
making
this
all
happen
today
and
we
tried
to
get
you
out
to
the
Joe
for
July
4th.
We
weren't
able
to
make
that
happen,
but
we
made
today
happen
and
that's
just
awesome.
D
I
mean
to
be
a
hundred
years
old,
World,
War,
II
veteran
kicking
a
Nazi's
butt
to
get
out
of
a
prison
camp,
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
much
better
you
can
get
as
an
American
hero.
So
happy
to
be
here
with
you
all
today
and
thank
you
all
again
for
coming.
D
B
B
Courier
in
the
house
this
evening,
Chief
would
just
like
to
make
one
brief
announcement
regarding
little
movies.
Getting
ready
to
make.
E
Good
evening,
mayor
members,
Council
actually
Jason
cronsberg
should
be
here
with
me,
I'm,
not
sure.
If
he's
in
the
building
not
seeing
him.
E
So
I
I
do
have
to
say,
as
I
said
this
morning
in
the
department
director
meeting,
you
know,
the
fire
department
does
very
little
to
get
the
building
complete
and
get
the
building
ready.
Parks
really
really
worked
hard
and
specifically
Beth
Brownlee
with
Parks
really
deserves
some
credit
for
getting
this
over
the
finish
line.
So
I
know
it
was
overdue,
but
tomorrow,
tomorrow
evening,
at
this
point
we'll
be
responding
out
of
that
Firehouse.
B
Thank
you,
Chief.
We're
excited
to
have
you
moving
in
over
there
all
right.
Next
is
our
public
hearings.
We
have
a
few
of
those
on
the
agenda
this
evening.
The
first
one
is
regarding
amuse
Municipal
Improvement
act
or
a
municipal
improvement
district
that
is
being
proposed
for
Johns
Island
Robert
Summerfield,
with
our
planning
department
will
make
a
pre-presentation.
G
G
Yep,
if
you
can
advance
it,
one
slide
all
right
so
very
quickly.
I
just
want
to
run
through
the
the
purpose
of
the
resolution
this
before
you
this
evening
on
this
public
hearing,
give
a
quick
update
on
what
the
Johns
Island
mid
is
what's
in
involved
and
then
go
through
our
next
steps.
Next
slide
Christopher,
so
this
slide
I
know
no
one
can
read
this.
G
This
is
just
a
reiteration
of
the
statute
that
gives
the
City
of
Charleston
the
ability
to
create
a
municipal
improvement
district
and
gives
the
technical
legal
reason
why
we're
doing
this
next
slide
please.
This
is
a
much
more
abbreviated
version
of
what
the
Johns
Island
mid.
Is
it's
important
to
note
that
the
Johns
Island
mid
will
only
affect
new
construction
of
housing
units
and
Commercial
areas?
Those
will
be
the
only
ones
billed
and
billing
will
not
be
triggered
on
this
assessment
until
a
certificate
of
construction.
Completion
for
occupancy
is
issued.
G
That's
a
very
important
distinction
to
be
made
here
so
until
the
the
people
that
will
be
living
in
these
new
units
are
there
or
coming
to
the
new
retail
or
other
commercial
type
activity
are.
Are
coming
to
the
new
development,
the
assessment
for
the
mid
will
not
begin
to
assess
existing
homeowners
and
current
commercial
spaces
will
not
be
assessed.
Only
new
units
new
units
will
be
billed
at
480
dollars
per
year.
G
It's
anticipated
that
once
that
assessment
begins,
there
will
be
a
two
percent
annual
increase
and
the
assessment
period
will
be
for
30
years
only
for
a
new
commercial
new
commercial
areas.
So
if
you
do
a
commercial
Edition,
a
new
out
parcel
gets
developed
or
a
completely
new
commercial
development
within
the
district
there,
it
will
be
done
at
a
rate
of
one
residential
equivalency,
which
is
about
480
dollars
per
year
and
that's
based
on
an
1800
square
foot
average
new
home
residential
area.
G
So
that's
how
we've
built
the
assessment
for
both
the
residential
and
Commercial
proposal.
Next
slide,
the
district
has
said
is
in
John's
Island.
It
is
only
Parcels
that
are
within
the
city
of
Charleston's
jurisdiction
on
John's
Island.
It
includes
approximately
551
Parcels
that
currently
have
some
form
of
entitlement
for
greater
development
than
they
currently
have
on
them
now
and
then
there's
another
244
Parcels
that
do
not
have
any
active
entitlements.
G
However,
meet
the
criteria
that
was
established,
which
is
that
they
are
over
two
acres
in
size
and
they're,
not
owner
occupied
residential
property,
which
is
taxed
at
the
that
four
percent.
So
these
are
properties
that
are
not
currently
owner
occupied
that
are
two
acres
or
greater,
and
therefore
we
see
that
they
have
potential
for
additional
development
requests
in
the
future.
G
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
in
excuse
me
in
the
mid,
primarily
because
any
property-
that's
not
in
the
mid
as
it's
adopted,
would
then
require
us
to
go
back
through
this
entire
process
to
add
them
later,
which
is
something
that
may
happen
as
as
other
properties
may
come
forward
and
request
annexation
into
the
city
at
some
future
date
for
a
total
of
approximately
eight
thousand
one
hundred
and
thirty
two
acres.
That
would
be
a
part
of
this.
G
This
Municipal
improvement
district
next
slide,
please,
as
a
part
of
this
Municipal
improvement,
district
we've
put
together
a
Improvement
plan,
as
required
by
Statute.
This
Improvement
plan
was
done
in
collaboration
with
the
various
Departments
of
the
city.
Specifically,
the
Improvement
plan
addresses
potential
projects
that
would
be
Parks
and
Recreation
projects,
roads
and
transportation
projects
and
finally,
storm
water
and
drainage
infrastructure
project.
G
At
present,
we
anticipate
in
the
Improvement
plan
almost
60
million
dollars
worth
of
Revenue
on
this
Municipal
improvement
district
over
the
course
of
25
to
30
year
implementation
Horizon
that
would
be
available
to
either
do
maybe
smaller
scale
projects
or
help
fill
gaps
between
current
funding,
State
funding
and
other
funding
opportunities
to
make
some
of
these
larger
scale
projects
happen.
This
is
not
meant
to
subtract
funding
that
the
city
would
otherwise
be
investing
in
John's
Island.
G
So
at
the
request
of
councilman
Brady,
we
did
go
out.
Last
week
we
met
at
the
Berkeley
Electric
Co-op
building
with
residents
of
the
island,
so
that
they
would
not
necessarily
have
to
travel
all
the
way
here
for
this
public
hearing
this
evening,
so
that
we
could
hear
what
they
had
to
say.
There
were
approximately
30
folks
that
came
out
to
that
listening
session
of
those
30
folks
almost
universally.
We
heard
appreciation
for
the
effort
folks
were
were
happy
to
hear
what
was
happening.
G
We
had
about
10
people
generally,
that
were
just
looking
for
just
more
information
we
had
about
five
or
so
folks
that
had
property
on
the
island
that
were
specifically
trying
to
determine
if
their
property
was
within
the
district,
and
then
we
had
12
folks
or
approximately
12
folks.
We
didn't
keep
exact
numbers
that
wanted
to
provide
comment
on
how
the
the
proceeds
would
be
used
and
what
improvements
would
be
done
to
that
end.
G
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
talked
about
internally
and
we
would
be
looking
to
do
as
we
move
forward
in
this
process,
is
to
look
at
a
Citizens
advisory
committee
to
help
us
figure
out
where
those
dollars
would
get
programmed
what
projects
would
come
forward
so
that
the
citizens
of
John's
Island
are
participating
in
how
that
money
gets
spent
once
once
it
comes
in
next
slide,
please
all
right
so
next
step.
So
today
we
have
a
public
hearing,
as
required
by
statute
on
this
resolution.
G
Next
month
we
will
have
the
actual
first
reading
of
the
ordinance
to
create
the
mid
anticipating,
either
at
the
second
meeting
in
September
or
maybe
as
late
as
the
first
meeting
in
October.
We
would
have
second
and
third
reading
with
the
adoption
again.
If
everything
goes
well
between
October
and
January
of
next
year,
we
will
be
working
on
the
next
step,
which
is
to
issue
notice
to
every
parcel.
G
That's
been
approved
as
a
part
of
the
district
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
any
member
or
any
property
owner
that
is
within
that
assessment,
District
to
come
forward
and
appeal,
their
inclusion
in
The
District
in
a
in
public
setting
and
finalize
those
components,
and
then
in
March
of
next
year.
G
So
in
March
of
next
year,
we
will
then
begin
to
prepare
the
assessment
documentation
with
an
anticipation
of
submitting
that
by
the
middle
of
2022
to
the
county,
so
that
it
can
be
a
part
of
the
assessment
roles.
When
those
are
done
and
then
we
will
begin
to
see-
and
it
will
be
small
at
first
we'll
begin
to
see
the
revenue
generated
by
the
mid.
G
But
as
those
projects
come
online
and
more
property
than
is
actually
contributing
to
the
district,
we
will
then
begin
to
have
some
better
certainty
as
what
those
revenues
might
be
which
will
allow
us
to
in
a
few
years,
project
some
bonding
capacity
that
will
allow
us
then
to
really
get
projects
moving
forward,
but
we
will
also
be
looking
to
identify,
maybe
smaller
projects
that
we
can
initiate
in
some
of
those
earlier
years,
just
based
on
proceeds
with
that
Mr
Mayor
members
of
council.
That's
my
presentation.
If
there's
any
questions
great.
B
So
next
is
our
public
hearing
for
this
matter
and
just
to
let
the
public
know
we're
going
to
have
a
public
participation
period
later,
where
folks
can
talk
about
any
subject.
So,
during
the
the
this
section
of
public
hearings,
you
just
come
forward.
If
you
want
to
speak
to
this
particular
matter,
that's
on
the
floor.
B
B
So,
if
y'all
would
just
kind
of
queue
up
to
the
microphone,
that'd
be
great
one
at
a
time.
Yes,
sir,
please
state
your
name
and
address
first
John's.
I
Logar
5528
Frisco,
Lane
I
represent
the
Johns
Island
task
force
and
the
task
force
endorses
the
mid
and
the
improvements
in
infrastructure
monies
would
bring
to
the
island.
The
key,
though,
is
Mr
Summerfield
mentioned,
was
how
the
money
is
spent.
We
strongly
encourage
the
council
to
set
up
an
advisory
committee
and
we
believe
this
committee
can
be
used
to
evaluate
and
prioritize
the
request
for
the
improvements
and
make
recommendations
to
council
and
also
as
most
Mr
Summerfield
mentioned,
we'd
like
to
thank
staff.
I
They
came
out
to
John's
Island
twice
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
had
a
fairly
good
participation
and
I
know
they
took
their
evenings
to
do
that.
So
again,
we
thank
them
and
because
we
know
that
active
Community
involvement
is
going
to
be
key
to
the
success
of
the
mid.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
Evening,
mayor
Mohammed
Idris,
the
presentation
was
made
by
Mr
summer
field,
which
I
think
is
inappropriate.
J
Here
we
have
a
man
that
was
working
in
Sin,
City,
Sin
City,
and
they
bring
him
here
and
put
him
in
the
head
of
planning
and
the
city
he
left
is
on
fire
and
more
crime
goes
on
in
that
city
than
any
place
in
the
world.
I
think
this
is
a
disgrace
to
the
holy
city
to
bring
a
man
from
Sin
City
to
work
on
a
plan
for
the
citizen
of
Charleston.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
B
Foreign
ER
Blaze,
hey,
also
want
to
share
with
everyone.
We
will
give
people
the
opportunity
if
you
know
to
ask
folks
who
agree
with
their
point
of
view,
to
raise
their
hands
I'm.
Sorry,
we
don't
allow
outbursts
during
our
public
participation
periods,
so
I.
If
somebody's
a
speaker,
they
want
to
ask
for
a
consensus
among
the
folks
that
are
here.
That's
just
fine.
Just
ask
them
to
please
raise
your
hand.
Thank
you
very
much.
Yes,
ma'am.
B
M
I
just
wanted
to
say
about
I
guess
the
meeting
that
they
had
last
week
and
I'm
sure
they'd
probably
reached
out
but
I'm
thinking
in
terms
of
everybody
else,
the
transparency
he
said
there
were
30
people
there,
but
again
just
like
here
the
people
that
are
actually
needing
the
guidance
and
maybe
the
voices
that
need
to
be
heard,
I'm
sure
that
weren't
part
of
that
30
people
there
so
I
guess
going
forward.
M
We
need
to
start
making
sure
that
when
I
say
I
live
on
John's
Island
that
we're
making
sure
that
the
information
is
getting
out
there
to
the
people
who
need
it
most
and
maybe,
when
we
have
that
advisory
committee,
maybe
the
people
that
actually
live
there
have
a
voice
on
the
input
too.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
N
Josh
Dix
with
the
Charleston
Association
of
Realtors
I,
want
to
say
thank
you,
mayor
and
Council
for
bringing
this
issue
up.
There's
some
big
needs
on
John's
Island
and
thanks
Mr
Brady
for
conversations
we've
had.
We've
had
some
really
good
meetings
with
staff
on
this
couple.
Issues
that
we
would
like
to
see
addressed
is
the
fact
that
the
equitability
piece
of
this
you
know
putting
the
burden
on
new
homeowners.
We're
not
sure
that
the
full
potential
of
the
mid
would
be
addressed.
N
I
understand
that
there's
some
State
limitation
on
making
this
applicable
for
current
homeowners
but
of
potential
opt-in
option
would
be
something
that
we'd
be
interested
in,
and
it's
been
mentioned
a
few
times,
but
the
transparency
piece
on
this
is
something
that
we
would
like
to
see
a
little
more
clarity
on.
Instead
of
just
allowing
for
three
slices
of
the
pie
to
be
projected
identifying
projects
and
specific
needs,
we
would
think
that
that
would
be
something
that
would
help
with
the
public,
encouragement
and
education
piece
on
this.
N
B
C
Yes,
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
City
staff
for
all
their
hard
work
on
this,
as
well
as
the
Johns
Island
task
force,
the
Johns
Island
Council
on
the
Johns
Island
Community
Association,
who
not
only
helped
us
get
the
word
out,
but
it
should
be
mentioned
as
well
that,
in
addition
to
the
meeting
on
August
12th
that
Jim
Hemphill
from
the
city
also
went
to
the
Johns
Island
council
meeting
on
August
5th.
C
B
B
O
I
know
that
the
staff
is
over
there,
but
we
have
some.
The
young
lady
came
up
and
said
they.
They
probably
didn't
hear
it,
but
they
didn't
have
the
opportunity
to
come
into
the
the
meeting.
So
I
think
we
need
to
really
look
at
it
and
do
a
better
job
in
getting
some
of
the
people
who
live
on
John's
Island,
who
was
looking
out
there
for
years.
O
It's
like
I,
always
informed
people
that
my
family
go
back
on
John's
on
300
years,
and
we
cannot
forget
about
those
people
that
was
living
back
there
and
with
the
farmers,
and
things
like
that
too.
So
I
think
I
need
to
do
a
little
better
job
and
getting
the
information
out
to
some
of
the
people
who
are
living
there
and
have
been
living
there
for
years
and
years
and
years,
and
because
a
lot
of
time,
they're
being
left
out
and
I've
seen
this
over
and
over
again
and
they're.
O
B
Thank
you,
sir
anyone
else,
councilmember
wearing
and
then
Griffin.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
Man,
with
all
due
respect,
my
colleague
I'm
not
going
to
vote
for
this,
and
the
irony
is
that
we're
in
probably
one
of
the
most
successful
communities
in
America
that
was
developed
on
Daniel
Island
and
you
didn't
have
to
have
a
tax
increase
or
admit
to
do
it.
This
gym
that
we
celebrate
for
the
first
time
being
here
today
came
as
a
result
of
a
recreation,
Bond
and
all
the
city
paid
for
that.
F
All
this
does
is
increase
taxes
on
people
who
have
no
voice
in
it.
The
future
homeowners
and
the
future
business
people
there's
almost
10
000
people
on
John's,
Island
and
30
people
came
to
the
meeting
and
we're
going
to
make
a
decision
on
the
results
of
what
30
people
had
to
say,
we're
going
to
increase
taxes,
doing
a
pandemic
on
houses
and
businesses
that
hadn't
been
built.
Yet
that
puts
those
we
talk
about,
affordable
housing,
that
tax
increase
is
going
to
be
passed
through
to
those
homeowners,
and
not
only
is
the
tax
increase.
F
It's
already
got
a
tax
increase
with
with
an
increase.
The
480
dollars
will
have
a
two
percent
increase.
You
haven't
even
assessed
the
480
yet
you're,
already
putting
a
two
percent
increase
on
that
we
have
a
storm
water
fee
and
over
the
years
the
truth
of
the
matter
is
the
stormwater
fee
had
been
appropriated
equally
across
the
city
of
Charleston,
for
various
reasons,
some
of
them
very
legitimate.
F
Some
I'm,
not
if
you
were
to
add
up
the
stormwater
fee,
that
the
people
on
John's
Island
currently
pay
and
compare
that
to
what
fee
is
going
back
to
fix
their
drainage
problems.
You
wouldn't
need
this
mid
in
most
cases
in
small
businesses
case
when
you
rent
a
commercial
space,
that's
what
is
called
a
triple
net
lease
tax
increases
that
is
not
paid
by
the
landowner
is
pushed
through
to
that
small
business
owner
that
puts
that
small
business
on
at
a
disadvantage.
F
Why
would
we
pass
a
tax
increase
on
people
that
even
doesn't
have
a
chance
to
have
a
say-so
in
this
increasing
taxes
on
new
homeowners
and
it's
not
until
the
certificate
of
occupancy
is
issued
that
they
have
to
pay
it,
which
means
the
person
or
the
developer
that
built
the
house
doesn't
have
to
pay
it,
but
that
new
homeowner,
that's
just
moving
in
there
for
the
first
time,
they're
going
to
get
a
surprise
which
is
going
to
equate
almost
a
cable
bill
by
the
way
I.
F
F
We
didn't
have
a
mid
to
do
that.
We
didn't
have
a
minute
to
do.
Daniel
Island,
we
didn't
have
a
minute
to
do
bees,
Ferry,
Road
and
Grand
Oaks,
and
all
of
the
areas
of
success
over
there.
We
didn't
have
admit
to
revitalize
Southwest,
South,
Windermere
or
Avondale
and
I
think
we're
putting
this
through
without
the
voice
of
the
people
being
able
to
speak,
and
he
said
what
voices
the
voices
of
the
future
homeowners
in
the
future
businesses
for
those
Reasons
I'm
a
vote
against
this.
Thank.
P
P
That's
going
to
see
that
tax
increase,
it's
going
to
be
the
person
who
buys
the
home
or
and
I
mean
I,
know
on
John's
Island
we've
got,
we've
had
exponential
growth
over
there
and
a
lot
of
the
people
on
John's
Island
are
not
liking
that
but
I
know
what
they
are
like
and
that's
getting
some
more
businesses
over
there.
But
when
you're
going
to
put
an
extra
tax
on
a
small
business,
that's
going
to
come
over
to
the
island.
P
That
to
me
is
not
a
good
deal
and
I
would
like
to
know
exactly
what
the
numbers
are
going
to
be
and
what
it's
going
to
cost
these
new
businesses
and
homeowners.
So
hopefully,
I
can
get
those
numbers
in
between
the
next
vote.
But
tonight
it's
going
to
be
a
no
for
me.
C
You,
yes,
thank
you.
Mr,
Mayor
and
I
definitely
appreciate
councilmember
waring's
concerns.
However,
I
would
point
you
to
the
commentary
piece
I
did
write
in
the
paper
that
addressed
many
of
the
misconceptions
about
the
mid.
We
know
in
the
city
that
we
use
tax
increment
financing
districts
a
lot.
It
is
not
just
property
taxes
or
the
storm
water
fee.
As
you
point
out
that
go
to
infrastructure,
we
do
have
other
types
of
taxing
districts
in
the
city
that
we
use.
C
However,
we
are
limited
by
the
number
of
tax
increment
financing
districts
that
we
can
have
by
law.
So
when
we
have
an
area
that
as
long
as
councilmember
Waring
has
been
on,
Council
has
seen
in
a
historic
under
investment
in
infrastructure.
We
have
to
get
creative
in
how
we're
going
to
do
that
and
South
Carolina
law
allow
some
Municipal
improvement
district.
C
Q
F
Is
you
don't
know
that
before
we
enacted
and
increase
those
people
are
already
paying
a
storm
water
fee
now
to
pay
for
dreams?
The
whole
county
is
paying
a
half
cent
sales
tax,
part
of
which
actually
is
a
penny.
It's
been
two
half
cent
sales
tax,
both
included
money
for
Green
Space,
some
in
the
rural
area,
which
help
buy
land
for
on
John's
Island.
F
We
have
the
second
half
cent
sales
tax
that
we're
in
right.
Now,
both
of
them
are
still
enacted.
The
people
on
John's
Island,
as
well
as
all
of
Charleston
counties,
is
paying
for
that.
Do
you
know
how
much
money
and
half
cent
sales
tax
that
people
on
John's
Island
paid
that
they're
getting
in
return?
F
In
other
words,
we
already
have
done
this.
We
know
how
to
do
this,
so
this
idea
about
creating
a
whole
new
text
on
people
that
hadn't
even
arrived
yet
in
businesses
that
hadn't
even
started
yet
in
the
good
idea,
until
we
at
least
find
out,
are
these
people
getting
if
they
pay
a
dollar
in?
Are
they
getting
a
dollar
back
invested
back
in
their
Community
for
storm
water
if
they
pay
a
dollar
in
the
half
cent
sales
tax
for
parks
and
green
space?
Are
they
getting
a
dollar
back?
G
Mr
Mayor
through
you
thank
you
councilman.
That
was
actually
why
I
stood
up.
So
this
is
not
to
vote
on.
This
is
to
hold
the
public
hearing
this
evening.
The
vote
would
be
anticipated
at
your
next
city
council
meeting
September
14th.
R
Can
I
just
follow
up
please,
so
thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
So
in
light
of
that,
what
I
would
say
is
this:
this
is
a
matter
for
councilmember
Brady
and
his
district
he's
reached
out
to
all
of
us
and
has
advocated
for
this
with
the
assurances
that
this
is
something
good
for
his
district
between
now
and
the
next
meeting,
we're
going
to
hear
from
our
staff
on
census,
numbers
and
I
suspect
we're
going
to
hear
that
John's,
Island's
numbers
and
population
have
almost
doubled.
R
Since
the
last
time
we
took
a
census
in
2010,
we've
had
a
public
hearing
where
30
people
have
shown
up
I
think
it's
probably
a
good
idea
to
get
back
out
on
the
Johns
Island
and
and
put
a
little
bit
more
information
out
about
exactly
what
we're
going
to
do
here
in
what
is
somewhat
of
a
shocking
development.
R
If
we're
not
going
to
vote
tonight,
Mr
Summerfield
I
know
you
and
your
staff
are
incredibly
busy
and
I
know
how
councilmember
Brady
is
too,
but
I
would
highly
encourage
some
more
canvassing
of
those
on
John's
Island
to
make
sure
that
we've
gotten
the
information
out
there
and
we
get
the
feedback
that
we
need,
because
this
is
in
fact
a
taxing
entity
that
we
are
going
to
go
by
so
with
that
I
think
we're
now
clear
on
what
we're
going
to
do
tonight,
which
is
take
this
for
information.
So
thank
you,
Mr
Summerfield.
S
Yes,
sir
I
I
I
I
do
just.
S
Want
to
ask
a
couple
questions,
or
maybe
just
get
the
clarification.
I
I
know
we're
trying
to
compare
what
our
current
residents
of
John's
Island
pay
into
the
stormwater
fee
and
also
the
the
sales
tax.
S
But
but
the
truth
is
we
don't
localize
the
uses
of
those
funds
they
they're
spread
out
throughout
the
city,
and
we
make
decisions
that
prioritize
and
deal
with.
You
know
tyranny
of
the
Urgent
when
we
have
things
that
are
the
existential
crisis,
as
you
talk
about
for
our
flooding
situations,
but
also
long-term
plans,
as
we
heard
a
little
bit
from
the
auditor
when
we
evaluate
our
drainage
funds
that
are
capital,
Improvement
projects,
the
the
Capital
Improvements
that
brought
this
community
center
forward
many
many
years
ago.
So
it's
really
I,
don't
think
it's
helpful.
S
It
might
be
great
to
know
how
much
each
of
our
districts
pay
and
those
sorts
of
revenue
streams
into
the
city,
but
they're
not
used
in
the
same
way
that
this
Municipal
improvement,
district
funding
stream
would
be
all
that
money
is
going
to
stay
on.
John's,
Island
and
I
know
that
it
seems
taxation
without
representation,
which
is
actually
very
true.
S
The
people
who
are
going
to
be
paying
these
fees
do
not
live
here
yet,
with
the
exception
of
maybe
some
businesses
who
are
making
a
business
decision
to
relocate
to
John's
Island
for
their
own
profit
margins.
I
I
do
think
that
you
know
people
on
John's
Island,
the
housing
prices
have
gone
up
even
just
in
the
in
the
10
years,
since
I've
had
anything
to
do
with
real
estate.
S
Traffic
and
flooding
are
the
primary
ones
and
lack
of
community
services
and
Parks,
so
I
I
think
it's
very
logical,
I
I
think
it's
a
very
logical
technology
and
a
methodology
that
I'm
really
glad
the
state
legislature
is
still
allowed
local
governments
to
choose
for
ourselves.
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
shade,
Mr
Summerfield.
T
G
Mr
Mayor
through
you
so
councilman
we
do
have
that
number
I
do
not
have
it
right
off
the
top
of
my
head.
It
would
be
within
that
number
of
parcels
that
are
currently
entitled,
so
we
have
a
actually
gym
for
my
office
as
a
very
robust
spreadsheet.
That
tells
us
how
many
units
have
been
entitled
for
which
project
which
projects
have
currently
already
pulled
the
necessary
permits
and
therefore
would
not
contribute
to
the
mid
and
which
ones
will
contribute
to
the
mid,
because
they're
anticipated
to
come
online
at
a
future
date.
I.
T
Think
what
would
be
important
for
all
of
us
is
to
know
the
number
of
permits
that
have
been
approved
are
pending,
in
other
words,
that
they
are
a
bit
approved
but
they're
in
the
process
of
being
developed,
both
residential
and
non-residential,
and
the
number
of
applicants
that
are
pending
approval
have
not
yet
been
approved.
Both
residential
and
Commercial
I
think
that
gives
us
a
little
bit
better
Flair
in
understanding
of
what
we're
dealing
with
as
councilmember
seekinges
just
pointed
out,
the
census
numbers
we
know
wanted
pretty
much
double
I.
Think
from
our
estimate.
T
B
All
right
any
further
comments:
councilmember
Sheely.
U
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
am
I
out
of
order.
If
I
were
to
ask
Josh
Dix
his
opinion
from
the
from
his
could
I
do
that
Josh
I
hope
I'm,
not
putting
you
on
the
spot,
but
I
I
heard
your
comments
about
putting
burden
on
homeowners,
opt-in,
options,
transparency,
peace,
I,
just
kind
of
want
to
get
a
better
feel
of
where
you
are.
N
So,
where
the
association
is
on
this,
yes,
sir,
this
is
a
need
that
we
fully
acknowledge.
We
have
some
heartburn
with
putting
it
strictly
on
new
homeowners
if
there
was
a
way
to
minimize
the
impact-
and
you
know
lessen
the
burden,
that's
why
we
feel
like
spreading
it
across
you
know.
Current
people
who
are
going
to
benefit
from
these
projects
as
well
would
be
the
the
best
route
to
go,
but
we
do
understand
that
this
is
a
need.
N
B
You
Josh,
yes,
sir.
Thank
you
any
more
comments
or
questions
from
Council,
seeing
none
since
we're
not
voting
on
this.
This
evening,
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
two:
the
public
infrastructure,
Improvement
development
agreement
regarding
Laurel
Island,
Mr
Summerfield,
we're
going
to
make
any
additional
remarks
about
Laurel
Island.
B
It's
been
presented
to
council
before,
but
just
was
not
open
yet
to
a
public
hearing
until
tonight.
Isn't
that
correct.
G
That
is
my
understanding.
Yes,
I
do
not
believe
there's
any
new
information
related
to
the
Laurel
Island
development
agreement.
I
would
look
to
our
corporate
Council
or
chip
if
they
have
any
additional
chip
and
Queenie
if
he's
available,
if
they
have
any
additional
information,
but
I
believe
everything
is
in
order
for
that
item
this
evening,
all.
B
O
B
H
Mr
Mayor
I'm
gonna
be
handling
these
next
few.
So
let
me
advance
the
slides
to
those
all
right
all
right,
so
this
is
E3.
H
This
is
item
E3,
its
properties
at
George,
Street,
Society,
Street
and
King
Street
in
downtown
Charleston.
It's
1.74
Acres.
It's
a
request
to
rezone
from
General
business
to
mixed-use
Workforce
housing
in
U2
wh.
H
It
was
before
Planning
Commission
last
month.
They
did
recommend
approval
five
to
zero.
Here
are
the
properties.
If
you
can
see
my
cursor
here
there's.
This
is
George
Street
to
the
North
King
Street
to
the
West
Society
Street,
to
the
South
Meeting
Street
to
the
east,
the
storefronts
on
King
Street,
back
up
to
the
property,
the
College
of
Charleston's
athletic
facilities
are
roughly
across
the
street.
There's
another
mu-2
development
just
to
the
east,
to
orient
you
to
the
overall
area.
H
In
the
century.
Five
current
city
plan
it's
identified
as
Urban
core
the
most
intense
category
in
the
plan.
Here's
an
aerial
image
of
the
property.
Most
of
you
know
it
as
the
King
Street
or
I'm.
Sorry,
the
George
Street
parking
lot.
That
has
a
good
bit
of
parking
in
it.
It
also
opens
over
to
society.
Street
here
are
some
other
aerial
images
of
the
property
and
that's
a
view
from
George
Street
short
view
from
society.
H
Street
and
the
request
again
was
to
go
from
General
business
to
mu2
Workforce
housing,
Planning,
Commission
and
staff
recommended
approval.
B
Y
Hi
mayor
members
of
council,
Brian
Hellman,
thank
you
very
much.
I'm
representing
the
property
owner
Daniel
porbaba
who's
who's.
Also,
here
we're
only
here
to
answer
questions.
We
don't
have
anything
else
to
add
unless
you
have
any
questions
of
us.
A
And
mayor,
we
also
received
a
letter
of
support
from
the
business
owners
at
332
and
336
King
Street.
They
said
that
they
would
like
to
express
their
strong
support
for
the
applicants
proposed
rezoning
from
General
business
to
mu2
wh.
The
applicant
has
demonstrated
a
creative
plan
that
includes
public
parking
that
would
be
available
to
our
customers,
while
also
incorporating
some
Workforce
housing
that
can
absolutely
benefit
our
local
community
and
those
were
all
the
comments
we
received.
B
Z
B
H
Morgan
back
to
you
yes,
sir,
so
E4
this
is
on
maybank's
highway,
it's
to
be
known
as
Rhett's
Cove,
it's
four
Parcels,
it's
a
total
of
10.6
Acres.
H
It's
a
request:
approval
at
the
retsco
planned
unit,
development,
master
plan
and
development
guidelines
and
to
rezone,
subject
properties
to
the
Pod.
It's
currently
zoned
commercial
transitional
in
the
City
of
Charleston,
and
then
plan
development,
Maybank,
Highway,
Corridor
overlay
in
Charleston
County.
So
several
of
the
parcels
are
to
be
interested
by
Planning
Commission
last
month
and
recommended
for
approval
five
to
zero
and
and
just
to
orient
you.
H
This
is
Maybank
Highway
just
to
the
west
of
Southwick
Drive,
just
to
the
west
of
The
Villages
of
Don's
Island,
almost
across
the
street,
from
the
old
Berkeley
Electric
Co-op
facility.
H
Some
other
images.
It's
in
our
century
five
plan
as
a
Suburban
designation
and
the
densities
that
are
proposed
in
this
put
are
in
line
with
that.
Suburban
designation
here
are
the
aerial
images
of
the
properties.
One
of
them
is
the
current
Tattooed
Moose
Restaurant,
which
would
continue
to
exist
in
that
location.
There
would
be
other
development
built
around
it.
H
Here
is
a
concept
site
plan
for
the
property.
There
would
be
a
series
of
Townhouses
in
the
development.
This
is
Maybank
Highway
to
the
right.
There
would
be
buffers
along
Maybank
Highway,
as
well
as
bike
and
pedestrian
access.
Through
there,
the
Tattooed
Moose
would
be
at
the
front
and
then
there
would
be
townhouses
to
the
rear.
It
would
be
connectivity
to
the
east
and
west
as
specified
in
the
Johns
Island
plan,
and
also
sidewalks
and
buffers
and
green
spaces.
H
Here's
a
land
use
plan
that
shows
where
the
ponds
are
where
the
residential
area
is
and
where
the
commercial
area
is
and
the
buffers
and
then
here's
the
open
space
plan.
The
open
space
is
being
shown
in
green.
There
are
a
lot
of
very
large
Grand
trees
on
the
site
and
the
applicants
have
worked
very
hard
to
work
around
those
grand
trees
and
protect
them
on
the
site.
There
also
are
wetlands
to
the
rear
of
the
property
that
are
protected
as
well.
H
The
overall
development
would
have
59
total
units
for
a
net
density
of
6.9
dwelling
units,
an
acre
again
in
line
with
the
plans,
recommendations
for
this
area.
The
residential
district
would
be
just
over
nine
acres,
of
which
roughly
seven
would
be
the
net,
and
the
commercial
District
would
be
about
an
acre
and
a
half,
and
the
staff
did
have
a
condition
that
Planning
Commission
passed
on
that
the
parking
lot
approved
by
Charleston
County
would
be
a
10-year
lease
and
the
parking
minor
Rider
must
be
completed
prior
to
TRC
approval
of
the
subdivision.
H
AA
B
H
Okay-
and
these
are
coming
to
you
all
for
the
zoning
recommendation
here-
this
is
1349
and
1351
Ashley
River
Road.
These
would
be
recent
annexation
or
or
these
would
be
annexations
to
be
coming
to
the
city
and
they
are
moving
through
their
zoning
process.
Now
it's
roughly
a
half
acre
it's
at
the
corner
of
Ashley
River
Road
and
Playground
Road,
the
St
Andrews,
Park
and
playground
commission
play
areas
are
to
the
South
and
to
the
west
of
this
property.
H
Currently
there
is
a
car
wash
on
the
corner
and
a
salon
in
a
older
structure.
On
the
other
parcel
here,
it's
across
the
street
from
some
limited
business.
It's
immediately
adjacent
to
some
general
business
to
the
East
and
general
business
to
the
West.
The
request
would
be
for
General
business
for
the
property
and
it
was
recommended
for
approval,
but
the
Planning
Commission
5-0.
H
Here
it
is
in
the
century
5
plan
it's
in
the
highway
designation
and
the
current
century
five
plan,
of
course,
that
General
business
would
fit
right
within
that
category.
Here's
an
aerial
image
of
the
property.
You
see
the
car
wash
to
the
left
salon
and
the
older
building
to
the
right
and
the
fields
of
the
PSD
to
the
South
and
Tennis
Courts
to
the
West,
and
that
is
the
presentation
we
have
and
both
staff
and
Planning
Commission
recommend
approval
of
the
general
business
Zoning
for
this
property.
B
Thank
you
and
to
let
Council
know
the
applicant
has
requested
that
we
only
give
second
reading
tonight,
apparently
their
ongoing
discussions
about
with
Saint
Andrews
parks
next
door,
so
they're
going
to
come
back
later
in
the
year
after
they
resolve
some
some
more
questions
for
final
reading
and
the
annexation,
but
we're
still
in
the
public
hearing.
Would
anyone
like
to
be
heard
on
this
matter?
AB
All
right
good
evening,
thank
you,
Mr
Mayor!
Thank
you,
members
of
the
council.
My
name
is
Kyle
Taylor
civil
engineer
with
Hoyt
and
bourini
based
out
of
Mount
Pleasant,
also
a
Daniel
Island
resident
and
here
on
behalf
of
the
development
group,
for
the
request
for
annexation.
Second
reading,
like
you
stated
thank
you
for
that
explanation
on
the
third
reading,
the
developers
under
contract
and
we're
working
through
plans
for
a
Parker's
kitchen
at
first
reading,
or
rather
maybe
it
was
second
reading.
AB
Last
time
the
Planning
Commission
hadn't
yet
been
approved
for
the
GB
zoning,
which
is
now
approved.
There
are
some
questions
at
that
time
of
what
was
being
proposed,
so
we
felt
like
it
was
appropriate
to
at
least
make
a
presence
here
tonight.
I
know
we
may
have
some
refuel
fans
here
in
the
audience,
but
we
can
assure
you.
Parker's
kitchen
is
a
very
great
brand
and
we
prepared
a
few
words
just
to
share
with
members
of
the
council,
who
may
not
be
as
familiar
with
Parker's
kitchen.
AB
If
the
board
would
would
oblige
Parker's
Pride
itself
on
being
more
the
convenience
store,
it's
a
place
where
customers
always
feel
right
at
home
or
where
they
can
save
time
and
money
and
find
exactly
what
they're
looking
for
any
time
of
day
or
night
and
always
greeted
with
a
warm
smile.
They
have
a
powerful
commitment
to
his
customers
to
deliver
on
their
slogan
of
fast,
fresh
and
friendly.
AB
They
are
proudly
headquartered
in
Savannah
Georgia,
with
store
locations,
expanding
across
Georgia
and
South
Carolina.
Most
recently,
they
did
a
new
store
on
Sam
Rittenberg
Boulevard,
as
maybe
members
of
the
council,
and
certainly
members
of
staff
are
familiar
with.
In
addition,
they
probably
get
back
to
Area
Schools,
local
hospitals
and
customers
that
are
fueling
the
community
program.
AB
Customers
go
out
of
their
way
to
fill
their
gas
tanks,
grab
a
snack
and
join
ice,
cold
fountain
drink
with
Chewy
ice,
and
with
that
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
and
we
are
excited
and
would
certainly
ask
your
support
for
this
annexation,
and
thank
you
Sony.
Thank
you.
You
all
have
very
good
chicken.
B
F
Thank
you.
This
happens
to
be
in
the
district
and
I'm
pleased
to
represent
anybody
is
familiar
with
Playground
Road
knows
it's
a
hub,
the
little
kids
and
families
it's
an
Andrew's
PSD
does
a
Saint,
Andrews,
clocks
and
playground
does
a
wonderful
job
for
decades.
The
family
Recreation
much
like
around
this
facility
here
today,
I'm
going
to
respectfully
ask
for
a
deferral
until
Parkers
can
work
through
a
positive
resolution
with
Saint
Andrews
parks
and
playground.
F
We
should
not
work
against
an
ally.
We
should
work
with
an
allies,
Andrew
Parkson
playground,
Works
without
playground.
Division
with
the
City
of
Charleston
Parkers
is
certainly
welcome
in
our
community.
We
have
one
over
there
on
Orange
Grove
and
in
Sam
Rittenberg,
and
very
well
liked
I
patronized
it
myself,
but
on
this
location,
this
is
the
area.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
one
of
the
baseball
fields
would
back
up
right
to
a
property
line,
so
I
do
not
want
to
bully
our
way
with
Saint
Andrews
parks
and
playground.
F
I
want
to
work
with
Saint
Andrews
parks
and
playground,
and
if
that
compromise
cannot
be
worked
out,
I
like
the
council
to
have
the
benefit
of
that
before
we
get
this
on
the
slippery
slope
towards
approval.
So
I
respectfully
ask
for
a
deferral
on
this
one
until.
AC
U
You
Mr
Mayor
Eric
Pullman
in
our
planning
department,
was
nice
enough
to
set
up
a
a
meeting
with
the
people
from
Parker's.
It
was
a
zoom
meeting,
but
and
also
with
several
representatives
of
Saint
Andrews
parks
and
playground,
including
the
the
the
head
of
the
commission
and
also
with
Susan
Klugman
and
several
others
with
Saint
Andrews.
There
was
a
lot
of
concerns
from
Saint
Andrews
playground
in
that
meeting
there,
as
councilman
Waring
said
they're
a
great
partner
with
the
City
of
Charleston.
We've
done
a
lot
with
them.
U
We've
just
got
a
green
plant,
Greenbelt
planner
approved
because
of
their
help
in
in
helping
us
they're
in
the
heart
of
West
Ashley,
and
they
serve
a
lot
of
our
city
constituents
who
happen
to
choose
to
go
to
that
Park
and
playground.
U
So
we've
got
a
great
relationship
with
them,
but
this
gas
station
design
it
has
a
potential
to
attract
children
toward
that
gas
station
and
it
causes
a
dangerous
risk
in
children,
Crossing
that
street
or
being
in
the
street
to
try
to
get
to
that
gas
station
and
Saint
Andrews
parks
and
playground
has
done
a
has
done
a
great
job
of
watching
how
their
kids
cross
the
street.
They
have
one
raised
crosswalk
area
from
the
parking
lot
to
the
to
the
ball
fields
across
the
street
and
that's
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
U
So
the
one
access
point
for
safety-
it's
also
to
they-
have
a
staffed
person
there
so
that
anybody
that
comes
in
and
out
they
know
and
they
see
and
know
anybody
that
comes
in
and
out
of
that
in
and
out
of
that
area.
Moms
Grandma
anybody,
that's
supposed
to
be
there.
So
there's
a
double
concern
here
for
Saint
Andrews
parks
and
playground.
Number
one
concern
is
you
got
a
kid
warming
up
down
here
and
oh,
the
game's
going
into
Extra
Innings?
Well,
I
got
five
bucks
in
my
pocket.
U
I'm
gonna
run
down
the
street
to
the
to
the
Parker's
gas
station
that
kid
gets
hit
by
a
car.
That's
their
concern.
There's
not
a
safe
place
to
cross,
there's,
not
a
sidewalk
anything
any
safe
way
to
get
from
the
playground
to
this
gas
station,
so
Saint,
Andrews
parks
and
playground.
I
think,
has
a
very
legitimate
concern
in
here.
I
seconded
the
motion
to
defer,
because
I
right
before
we
walked
into
these
meetings.
I
was
talking
to
some
of
the
representatives
from
Parkers.
U
I
have
also
yesterday
taught
with
some
of
the
representatives
from
Saint,
Andrews
playground
and
I.
Just
think.
It's
a
prudent
thing
to
do
to
you
know
for
us
to
defer
this
right
now
until
we
can
get
all
this
worked
out.
So
thank
you.
T
Shade,
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
I
appreciate
the
comments
from
my
colleagues
who
represent
parts
of
West
Ashley.
My
district
is
right
across
the
street
from
from
this
area,
and
we
did
have
a
meeting
on
Friday
with
members
of
The
Parkers
team,
the
playground
off
the
playground
with
St
Andrews
I
appreciate
councilmember
Sheely,
orchestrating
a
lot
of
these
meetings
that
we
had.
Yesterday
afternoon,
we
had
a
design
review
board
meeting
I
jumped
off
the
Public
Works
committee
meeting,
so
I
could
attend
that
there
were
two
items
on
that
agenda.
T
One
was
to
the
to
demolish
the
dueling
right
next
to
the
car
wash
and
that
motion
that
petition
got
deferred
on
the
demolition
part
of
this,
because
it's
a
perfectly
functioning
building
and
so
I
think
part
of
the
issue
that
we're
dealing
with
is
not
only
the
construction
of
this
facility,
but
also
the
demolition
that
would
have
a
perfectly
functioning
building.
We've
had
very
good
conversations
with
the
applicants
on
on
this.
T
The
matter
got
deferred
for
further
communication,
further
conversation
with
St,
Andrews,
Park
and
playground
with
councilman
Waring
councilman
shielding
myself
and
any
other
members
who
represent
Wes
Ashley.
To
address
this
particular
area,
because
the
concerns
that
councilmember
wearing
and
Sheila
are
raising
are
the
concerns
that
we've
been
pounding
on
about
the
location
of
this
playground.
Road
and
Saint
Andrews
Ingress
egress,
the
demolition
of
this
building
and
as
councilman
Shirley
has
alluded
to.
T
This
is
right
up
on
the
it
was
very
the
essence
of
West
Ashley,
which
is
Saint
Andrews,
Department
playground
and
the
children
that
would
be
visiting
this
place
in
patronize
in
this
place
and
the
access
they
have
to.
It
was
just
not
a
safe
way
of
getting
there.
So
we
have
a
lot
to
work
out
with
this
I'm
not
opposed
to
a
second
reading,
because
it
will
just
sort
of
stay
into
the
third
reading
either
way
it
doesn't
matter
to
me.
T
We
want
to
defer
it
or
not,
but
I
just
wanted
to
bring
the
council's
attention.
There
are
several
issues
associated
with
this
I'm
hoping
we
can
work
all
these
out,
if
not
we'll,
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
on
this,
but
this
is
a
very
important
part
of
the
revitalization
of
West
Ashley's.
How
we
address
not
only
the
construction
of
new
buildings
and
businesses,
but
how
we
address
a
demolition
of
existing
buildings
that
sort
of
make
up
the
fabric
of
West
Africa.
Thank.
B
You
ma'am
anybody
else
like
to
be
heard:
councilmember
wearing.
F
Right
good
one
other
thing
that
councilman
Jade
kind
of
alluded
to.
We
really
have
to
make
a
decision
these
little
Villages
that
we
tearing
down
these
buildings,
how
are
small
businesses
and
have
always
housed
small
businesses
and
right
now,
yeah.
This
one
needs
a
little
facelift,
but
look
at
the
areas
that
we've
brought
back
successfully.
Look
at
South
Windermere.
F
F
Are
we
now
saying
that
we
need
big
boxes
in
these
locations,
medium-sized
boxes
versus
getting
away
from
the
village
concept
and
hopefully
getting
those
revitalized
not
to
mention
I
I
know:
councilman.
Sheely
knows
this,
but
I
believe
a
couple
of
children
have
actually
gotten
hit
on
playground,
road
crossing
from
one
side
to
the
other
and
that's
without
the
volume
of
traffic
going
in
and
out
of
the
parking
so
isn't
fairly
that
we
work
out
whatever
reasonable
solutions
that
people
at
St,
Andrews,
Park
and
playgrounds
are
allocating
for.
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
F
B
You
so
I
I
would
just
like
to
say
in
Parker's
credit
that
they
they
must
be
proactively
trying
to
work
out
these
issues.
They
met
with
you.
They
requested
that
we
not
give
a
three
third
reading.
The
deferral
has
the
same
effect,
but
but
it
is
a
sign
of
good
faith
that
they
want
to
work
with
us
any
further
comments
or
questions.
The
motion
is
for
deferral
of
this
matter
of
both
number
five
and
number
six,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
yeah
one
night,
your
eyes
have
it
so.
P
Mr
Mayor
this
guy
I,
think
I
can
explain
my
vote.
Yes.
P
H
Yes,
sir,
so
109
Magnolia,
it's
a
13th
of
100
of
an
acre,
it's
requesting
zoning
of
single
and
two
family
residential.
It's
a
recent
annexation
from
Charleston
County.
It's
right
here
on
Magnolia,
where
Radio
Road
runs
right
into
Magnolia
and
the
structure
is
a
duplex,
so
it
makes
sense
that
it
would
come
in
a
single
and
two
family
residential
showing
a
couple
of
images.
H
It's
in
our
suburban
area
in
our
century
five
plan,
so
that
that
matches
up
and
here's
an
aerial
image
of
the
property
and
a
overall
character
of
the
neighborhood.
So
staff
and
Planning
Commission
recommend
for
that
Str
designation
on
the
single
into
family,
residential.
B
H
This
is
2710
pine
log
Lane
on
John's
Island,
it's
4.66
Acres.
It's
a
request.
Zoning
of
dr6.
It
was
zoned
single
family,
residential
R4
in
Charleston
County,
the
surrounding
area
in
the
city
is
dr6.
As
you
see,
this
is
the
Whitney
Lake
area
and
the
subject
properties
here,
pine
log
Lane
is
here
and
it
would
connect
to
the
back
of
the
Whitney
Lake
area
in
this
location
and
Planning
Commission
reviewed
it
at
their
meeting.
Last
month
they
recommended
approval
of
the
dr6
with
a
five
to
zero
vote.
I
have
some
images.
H
This
is
in
our
suburban
area
of
our
comprehensive
plan,
and
that
means
it
is
recommended
for
appropriate
densities
at
four
to
eight
units,
an
acre.
So
the
the
dr6
fits
right
within
the
middle
of
that
here's,
an
image
of
the
property.
It
does
have
an
existing
house
on
the
property
and
some
trees.
There
are
some
Wetlands
that
would
not
be
built
on
and
it
is
again
immediately
adjacent
to
the
Whitney
Lake
development.
There
and
staff
and
Planning
Commission
recommend
approval
of
the
dr6.
B
A
AD
Okay,
I
live
on
pine
log
and
Hampton
Mill,
and
my
concern
is
if
there's
access
going
to
be
through
Whitney
lakes
or
on
pine
log.
H
The
the
access
to
the
development
would
be
from
primarily
from
the
Whitney
Lake
development.
Should
there
be
any
other
developments
to
the
rear
of
this
in
the
future.
Those
would
connect
with
it
and
ultimately
to
Pine
law,
but
at
this
point
in
time
there
would
be
the
main
access
would
be
from
the
Whitney
Lake
development.
AD
H
The
city
ultimately
takes
over
those
roads
because
they
are,
you
know,
paved
asphalt,
roads,
City
roads.
They
would
just
be
building
the
roads
on
the
property
that
they
would
be
bringing
into
the
city,
not
the
rest
of
pine
log,
Lane.
H
That
would
be
up
to
the
property
owners
or
the
county,
because
it's
still
unincorporated.
AD
Right,
my
other
corners.
AD
My
other
concern
is
the
dr6
I'm,
not
I,
see
that
it's
it's
set
out
for
a
single
family
design
plan
a
conceptual
plan,
but
they
can
change.
That
is
that
correct.
AD
AD
Hi
and
that's
fine,
our
problem
is
in
Hampton
Mill
coming
through
pine
log
Lane,
and
we
and
Hampton
Mill
would
like
it
not
to
be
accessed
through
pine
log.
A
B
Right,
the
matter
now
comes
to
council
councilmember,
Brady.
C
Yes,
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor,
Chris
Rice
have
a
couple
of
questions,
so
I
actually
went
out
to
take
a
look
at
this
property
earlier
this
week
and
several
of
the
residents
from
Whitney
Lake
Whitney
likes
to
join
me
as
well
as
some
of
the
comments
that
I've
received.
C
Is
there
any?
Is
the
applicant
requesting
the
increase
in
zoning
from
sr1
in
the
county
to
dr6
here
in
the
city.
H
It's
roughly
four
units
an
acre
in
the
county,
but
there
are
different
iterations
of
that
in
the
city,
because
the
remainder
of
the
the
Whitney
Lake
development
essentially
has
been
built
at
the
dr6
level
and
because
that
met
our
comprehensive
plan
recommendations
for
this
area.
That's
why
we
recommended
the
dr6
for
the
site
so.
C
I
guess
my
question
is:
how
do
we
protect
against
because
it
is
a
4.66,
Acre
Site
if
I
remember
correctly,
yes,
sir?
How
do
we
protect
against
right
now?
The
site
plan
is
for
16
homes.
How
do
we
protect
against
an
apartment
complex
or
to
going
in
on
that
property
because
they
would
have
the
extra
units
in
the
dr6
right.
H
So
about
a
third
of
the
site,
I
think
is
Wetlands
so
about
a
third's
not
going
to
be
built
on
so
you're,
really
looking
at
only
about
3
three
acres
that
get
built
on
and
I.
We
we
don't
typically
see
apartment
complexes,
get
built
on
three
acres.
It's
a
very
small
track
to
build
such
a
thing
on
and
there's.
It
would
be
very
difficult.
I
mean
on
three
acres.
The
most
number
of
units
you
could
have
in
that
would
be
18
units,
so
apartment
complexes
typically
build
200,
250
units
things
like
that.
H
So
it's
just
not
something
that
we
see
as
a
practical
threat
to
the
property
here
and
it'd
also
not
be
a
practical
location
for
apartments
having
to
go
through
in
the
middle
of
a
neighborhood
like
that,
I
mean
they.
You
couldn't
Market
them.
C
H
H
S
I
I
appreciate
councilmember
Brady's
boots
on
the
ground,
good
good
questions
and
I
I
think
we
should
move
to
defer
this
item
so
that
we
can
get
those
answers
and
follow
up
to
the
owner
who
wants
to
Annex
into
the
city.
S
I
I
understand
that
you
know
we
usually
try
to
Zone
according
to
the
context,
but
we're
in
a
different
world
right
now
in
terms
of
protective
development.
Looking
at
elevation,
zoning
and
I
I
I
couldn't
see
on
the
map
where
Hampton
Mill
is.
Is
that
a
neighborhood
or
is
that
another
street?
But
I
do
think
that
this
this?
S
You
know
every
time
we
talk
about
a
property,
that's
in
a
vulnerable
location
like
a
lot
of
the
places
on
John's,
Island,
James,
Island,
Outer,
West,
Ashley,
even
Interwest
Ashley
I
do
think
that
we
should
be
very,
very
careful
to
know
what
the
unintended
consequences
might
be
and
how
potentially
we
could
know
a
lot
more
before
we
make
a
zoning
decision.
So
I
would
like
to
move
for.
B
F
Have
one?
Yes,
that's
Mr,
Morgan
I'm,
a
support
devotion
because
I
could
see
the
concern
and
councilman
the
greatest
fees,
but
Mr
Morgan.
The
original
development
was
that
done
in
a
pod.
H
B
B
It
sounds
like
some
more
conversation
we'll
be
needed
on
this
one.
We
have
a
motion
to
defer
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
next
up.
That's
the
end
by
the
way
of
our
public
hearing
matters.
Next
up
is
our
approval
of
city
council.
AE
B
Just
for
July
20th
any
additions
changes
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
yeah,
let's
have
it
they're
approved
next
up.
Is
our
citizens
participation
period?
Now
we
normally
just
limit
our
participation
period
to
30
minutes.
We
have
80
people
who
have
signed
up
to
speak
and
to
be
respectful
to
give
you
just
some
opportunity
to
share
your
thoughts.
So
we
would
like
to
limit
you
to
a
minute
that
will
mean
our
participation
period
will
be
about
a
hour
and
a
half
long
and
so
I.
B
B
No,
no
yelling,
please
I'm,
just
asking
for
the
show
of
hands.
Please
please
cooperate
with
us.
Okay,
so.
B
The
example
didn't
work
very
well
y'all
I'm,
asking
you
when
you,
when
you
want
folks
in
the
room
to
share
your
point
of
view.
Just
please
ask
him
for
a
raise
of
hands.
No
shouting
clapping,
we
got
it,
we
can
see
y'all,
we
get
it
all
right,
so
we
will
call
out
the
names
about
three
or
four
at
a
time.
Yeah
I
see
you
over
there.
Absolutely
and
y'all
would
just
please
queue
up
and
and
we'll
be
glad
to
listen
to
to
you
this
evening.
A
J
J
AF
Melissa
engdahl
4009
Crown
Point
Street
I'm
here
tonight
to
talk
about
your
idea
to
mask
two-year-old
children
at
daycares
and,
above
in
all
the
public
schools
and
I'm,
asking
you
to
please
let
your
fear
that
you
have
inside
of
you
go
over
this
virus
because
I
just
printed
this
out
from
the
CDC
and
it
says
from
0
to
17
years
old.
The
percentage
of
death
is
less
than
zero
point
one.
AF
We
need
to
follow
the
state
law.
God
bless
Governor
McMaster,
because
the
fashion
masks,
because
the
fashion
mask
that
you're
wearing
on
your
face,
have
been
tested
in
a
lab
and
they
have
the
pathogens
on
them
that
cause
pneumonia,
tuberculosis,
meningitis,
sepsis,
Encephalitis,
urinary,
tract
infections,
food
poisoning,
Lyme
disease,
diphtheria
and
legionnaires.
They
limit
the
breath.
They
cause
anxiety.
They
cause
panic
attacks,
they
stop
language.
If
you
want
to
help
give
out
vitamin
D
in
the
hospital.
A
AG
Thank
you,
sorry
I'm,
a
pediatric
immunologist
at
the
Medical
University
of
South
Carolina,
which
means
I'm
a
doctor
for
children
and
I
specialize
in
taking
care
of
severely.
You
know
compromised
children,
I'm,
also
a
mother
of
two
when
my
children
start
school
tomorrow
yesterday
in
my
well
Immunology
Clinic
I
saw
14
patients
and
two
of
which
I
diagnosed
with
covid.
They
came
in
with
seemingly
well
without
symptoms.
AG
They
thought
and
were
found
to
have
a
temperature
of
103
and
inflammation
on
exam,
and
they
had
been
at
camps
all
day
and
infecting
other
children
not
purposely,
but
because
they
were
sick.
Neither
of
them
knew
that
they
had
symptoms,
and
here
in
Charleston
the
Delta
variant
is
surging
and
much
of
like
the
United
States.
AG
We
know
Mass
work
last
year
in
the
fall
we
had
about
a
1.3
percent
of
time
staff
and
kids,
who
are
infected
I
urge
you
to
support
mandates
of
Mass
to
protect
our
children
and
our
community.
Thank
you.
AH
Hi
I'm,
going
to
read
you
a
quote
from
Chris
Skye
I
encourage
y'all
to
go.
Look
him
up.
He
said
this
a
year
and
a
half
ago
predicting
where
we
are
right
now.
I
want
you
to
think
about
that,
while
I'll
read
it
to
you,
the
mask
is
about
compliance.
Next
are
going
to
tell
you
to
have
to
take
a
vaccine
and
then
guess
what
kids?
AH
Once
you
take
your
vaccine
they're
going
to
tell
you
sorry,
the
vaccine
isn't
as
effective
as
we
thought
it
was
going
to
be
so
now
you
got
to
still
wear
your
mask
still
got
to
get
contact.
Trays
still
have
all
the
restrictions
in
Social
distancing
and
still
take
your
vaccine
and
then
what
did
you
get
out
of
this?
You
got
a
whole
year
where
you
weren't
allowed
to
travel.
Your
businesses
were
closed.
They
took
your
rights
and
freedoms,
they
forced
an
unproven
vaccine
on
you
and
what
happened.
The
same
amount
of
people
died.
AH
AI
Hi
oxygen
is
one
of
the
reasons
our
planet
has
life.
We
need
O2
to
live,
we
breathe
in
oxygen
to
feed
our
organs
and
tissues,
and
the
end
product
that
we
breathe
out
is
carbon
dioxide.
The
balance
between
these
two
gases
is
required,
not
if
not
maybe
but
required,
to
maintain
a
healthy
body.
Continuous
breathing
of
CO2
by
mask
wearing
causes,
harmful
and
dangerous
effects
on
the
body.
Hypercapnia
heart
function,
interference
causes
arrhythmias,
a
sodemia,
central
nervous,
interference,
causes
developmental
retardation,
seizures,
coma
and
even
death.
AI
Co2
is
an
asphyxian,
a
poison
that
can
permanently
do
damage
to
the
respiratory
function
in
our
bodies.
Studies
have
been
shown
that
there
is
no
conclusive
evidence
and
I'm
sorry
to
hear
about
the
children
that
that
doctor
saw,
but
there
is
no
conclusive
evidence
that
mass
help
healthy
people
to
not
get
covered.
AI
AJ
Carissa,
nickel
and
1385
Brickman
way,
I'm
here
for
speaking
for
the
little
children
I,
do
not
understand
how
you
think
that
they
are
going
to
learn
to
read
with
a
mask
on
their
teacher's
face
or
their
face.
They
cannot
see
the
enunciation
of
letters
these
children
in
these
schools.
Last
year
you
said
they
were
going
to
get
Mass
breaks.
AJ
They
did
not
get
Mass
breaks,
they
were
outside
in
the
heat
with
a
mask
on
their
face.
They
only
got
15
minutes
at
lunch
to
not
have
a
mask
and
I
want
to
know
which
one
of
you
wears
a
mask
for
eight
plus
hours
a
day,
and
where
are
the
studies
that
say
in
five
years
from
now?
Whatever
years
from
now
that
wearing
a
mask
when
you're,
a
developing
child
for
over
eight
hours
a
day
is
not
gonna
have
repercussions.
AK
I
think
we
kind
of
went
out
of
order.
I'm
Ashley
Regan
I'm
at
3421,
Overland
Lane
good
evening,
members
I'm,
a
mother
of
two
children
in
the
district,
a
small
business
owner,
a
previous
educator
holding
a
master's
degree
in
childhood,
education
and
psychology
and
I
am
part
of
the
200
000
families
that
have
fled
the
tyranny
of
New
York
in
2021
alone.
AK
AK
AK
Yes,
covet
is
a
virus,
but
so
is
the
flu
strep
throat
RSV
and
where
were
you
when
our
children
were
sick
from
these
viruses
were
any
of
you
calling
to
muzzle
our
children
in
masks
up
to
eight
hours
a
day
were
any
of
you
demanding
our
children
quarantined
for
two
weeks.
Time
were
any
of
you
trying
to
push
our
youth
into
an
experimental
vaccine.
AK
The
answer
is
an
overwhelming.
No,
these
are
our
children
and
we
are
the
parents.
The
medical
choices
for
these
children
are
up
to
the
parents
and
the
parents.
Only
we
have
asked
you.
We
have
pleaded
with
you
and
our
attempts
were
in
vain,
and
now
you
have
a
slew
of
angry
parents.
Instead
of
enjoying
our
last
day
with
our
children.
We
are
here
fighting
you
and
your
overreach
I
urge
you
I
urge
you
to
cease
all
attempts
at
mandating,
masks
for
us
or
our
children.
AL
Hi
good
evening,
Brett
Berry,
Candy,
Lane,
West,
Ashley,
mayor
Joe,
Riley
created
opportunity
and
safety
for
the
people
of
Charleston.
The
sense
of
unity
he
cultivated
is
the
model
not
only
for
the
city,
but
perhaps
the
entire
country,
especially
in
his
last
year
in
office.
His
accomplishments
are
being
squandered
by
failed
leadership.
AL
AL
The
commission,
on
Equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliations
report
is
not
a
continuation
of
the
success
built
during
the
Riley
era,
but
rather
a
continuation
of
the
downhill
trajectory
which
we
have
witnessed
in
Charleston
over
the
past
few
years.
This
report
recommends
reducing
funding
for
our
police,
putting
critical
race
theory
in
our
schools.
AL
AM
AN
Hello
good
evening
my
name
is
Selena
Ramsey
I'm,
857,
Fair,
Lawn
Circle
I
I
am
a
medical
Freedom
Refugee
from
New
York
City
I've
been
here
for
a
year,
and
a
half
and
I
moved
my
family
of
five
here,
so
that
we
could
use
the
public
school
education
system
in
South
Carolina
and
to
this
date
we
have
not
put
our
children
in
school
because
last
year
I
was
going
to
enter
my
child.
Not
this
one.
AN
My
older,
my
older
one
into
Pre-K
and
I
was
told
that
she
would
have
to
wear
a
mask
all
day
and
during
nap
time
and
during
recess
and
I
believe
that
for
every
child,
I
don't
put
into
the
public
education
system.
This
County
loses
funding.
So
you
really
need
to
think
about
what
all
the
parents
here
are
saying
and
make
a
parental
choice.
I
don't
want
the
government
being
able
to
tell
me
that
I
can't
assess
the
risk
for
my
family.
AN
Q
I'm
Farren
Duran
I'm
at
1231,
Colfax,
Court
and
I'm,
coming
to
you
as
a
health
care
worker,
I
work
and
I've
been
working
with
kovid,
so
hello.
This
is
right
here.
You
want
to
say
thank
you
to
your
health
care
workers.
What
I'm
here
to
tell
you
is
that
you're
asking
our
children
to
do
what
our
health
care
workers
on
the
front
lines
are
not
even
willing
to
do
ourselves.
We
do
not
wear
our
mask
all
the
time.
We
pull
it
down.
Q
We
have
headaches,
we
can't
breathe,
we
go
home
and
we
are
tired
and
we
we
take
it
off
and
we
put
it
aside.
We
we
look
at
our
patients
and
then
we
turn
around
and
go
and
I.
The
sad
thing
is
is
that
I
looked
at
all
the
board,
members
that
are
on
the
board
that
voted
in
CCSD
and
not
one
of
them
does
health
care.
So
how
dare
anybody
make
a
health
care
decision
and
not
actually
be
in
health
care?
Not
any.
Q
You
all
have
to
be
willing
to
wear
it
for
eight
hours
and
play
Recess
before
you
ever
make
a
decision
for
our
children
and
I
with
all
due
respect,
every
single
one
of
you
and
the
people
back
here
with
your
mask
going,
you
have
been
touching
it
the
whole
time
in
a
healthcare
situation.
We
would
have
told
you
to
throw
it
away
and
you
would
have
to
stop
wearing
it
after
two
hours.
You
stop
wearing
those
masks.
Last
we're
not
ask
all
we're
asking.
We
don't
care
about,
masks
we're
just
asking
for
no
mandate.
AO
Hi
I'm
Jennifer
Trudeau
I,
recently
moved
out
of
Charleston
County
and
I'm
thankful
that
I'm
no
longer
subject
to
the
Tyranny
here.
I
wanted
to
specifically
say
hello
to
you.
Mr
Harry,
Griffin
I,
hope
that
you
remember
our
phone
call
last
February
when
I
was
accosted
by
Charleston
livability
Department
in
the
middle
of
Target,
and
you
promised
me
that
you
would
get
back
to
me
multiple
times
and
you
never
did
okay
anyway,
so
I
threatened
to
soup
after
I
got
no
response
from
you.
AO
AO
We
are
all
law-abiding.
Citizens
is
what
we
want
to
do,
but
we
will
I
am
a
homeschool,
mom
and
I
brought
my
kids
here
tonight
to
teach
them
a
civics
lesson
about
standing
up
for
their
rights,
because
they're
certainly
not
going
to
learn
that
in
public
schools
there
is
no
emergency
The
Jig,
Is
Up,
your
masks
are
theater
time.
AO
AP
Okay,
Tara
wood,
Mount
Pleasant
I'm
here
today
to
ask
to
see
your
real
scientific
proof
that
mask
work.
You
cannot
provide
it
because
it
does
not
exist.
However,
there's
plenty
of
scientific
data
to
support
the
adverse
mental,
emotional
and
physiological
effects
of
long-term
use
face
coverings,
especially
on
our
children.
Have
you
ever
smelled
someone's
bad
breath
through
their
mask
and
yours
I
have
so
that's
through
two
masks:
have
your
glasses
fogged
up
from
wearing
a
mask?
This
is
due
to
small
aerosol,
which
is
responsible
for
spreading
viruses.
AP
AP
Well
guess
what
the
CDC
posted
those
guidelines
verbatim
if
wearing
a
face
mask
covering,
can
stop
this
little
thing
here
if
it
can
stop
tiny,
tiny
viruses
from
penetrating
through
it,
why
do
virologists
suit
up
like
they
are
walking
on
Mars?
They
should
also
be
protected.
Just
from
wearing
this
mask
right,
we
want
medical
freedom,
make
mask
a
choice.
Please.
AQ
AQ
I
imagine
that
you
brought
some
people
here,
like
those
MUSC
folks
in
the
back,
with
their
costumes
for
theater,
to
try
to
pull
some
Heartstrings,
but
you've
heard
about
the
numbers
and
what's
happening
with
kids
for
real
I
sent,
my
kids
I
pulled
them
out
of
school
and
I,
sent
them
to
private
school
last
year,
no
masks
on
the
teachers
or
kids
for
the
whole
year
in
the
whole
school.
There
were
no
cases,
there
were
no
school
closures.
AQ
AQ
AR
I
come
here
to
you
today,
sad
and
here
we
are
knives,
are
drawn
throughout
different
levels
of
government.
You
have
citizens
down.
Each
other's
throats.
Parents
have
had
to
make
hard
decisions,
homeschooling,
finding
rational
private
schools
who
do
not
mask
business
owners,
reeling
from
the
biggest
public
policy
Calamity
in
Charleston
history,
great
work,
guys-
and
here
you
are
tonight-
you
just
can't
leave
us
alone-
I'm,
not
here,
to
make
the
case
I'm
on
how
the
disgusting
face.
AR
Diapers
are
not
only
useless
but
destructive
I'm
here
to
meet
people
steamrolling,
like
Petty
tyrants,
threatening
my
personal
choices
for
my
family
over
disgusting
face
diapers
I've
protected
my
children,
and
now
you
threaten
their
private
schools
based
on
freedom,
our
school,
a
school
that
operationally
and
academically
performed
better
than
math
schools.
Last
year,
riddled
me
that
I
see
the
BS
that
is
coming
out
of
this
Council.
Your
majority
could
care
less
about
how
you
affect
people's
lives,
their
businesses,
their
churches,
y'all,
are
over
your
rubber,
stamping,
Marxist
racist
equality.
AR
Commission
I
know
exactly
where
you
are
coming
from.
The
board
is
evolved
from
a
moderate
left.
Lane
cancel
to
piling
on
with
the
hard
left
you
and
cooperating
media
stroke.
The
fear,
your
moral
busy
bodies
and
ordinances
have
nothing
to
do
with
your
safety
of
the
public.
Your
virtue
signal
is
done
because
you
think
it
advances
you
politically
I
have
news
for
you.
If
you
disagree
on
face
coverings,
then
post
your
data
show
me
where
all
the
death
is
compared
to
our
Peak
before
vaccines.
AR
It's
a
fraction
so
post
your
data
folks
and
let's
have
a
real
debate
before
you
start
violating
civil
liberties,
stifling
business
and
causing
division,
because
the
citizens
aren't
going
to
tolerate
it
anymore.
I've
been
the
obedient
but
hear
the
sentiment
now.
Just
leave
us
alone
go
provide
another
permit
for
a
hotel
or
something
so
do
what
you're
going
to
do.
But
some
of
you,
your
Council
positions,
are
not
safe
and
we
are
coming
through
your
seats
so
continue
to
torment
your
constituents,
we'll
return
the
middle
finger,
Tech.
AS
AM
B
We're
in
a
public
participation
period
we're
taking
one
at
a
time.
Yes,
sir.
Please
proceed
I'm
Alan,
Dobson.
AT
And
how
many
of
y'all
fantasy
coming
for
school
board
did
any
of
y'all
run
for
school
board
or
get
out
of
school
board
business
number
one
number
two:
this
racial
buyers
order,
whatever
you
call
it
I
in
the
world,
you're
not
in
school
business,
so
get
out
of
the
education,
youth,
education
I'm.
All
for
you
support,
but
get
out
the
education
with
CRT
or
whatever
critical
race,
Theory
staff.
You
don't
even
know
what
that
is.
You're,
not
the
five
reasons.
AT
Five
main
points
out:
no,
not
at
one
of
them:
you're
not
on
School
Board,
two
schools,
City
business,
not
school
board,
business,
number,
10,
there's
a
cultural
and
history.
Why
go
through
the
process
of
having
somebody
decide?
Why
don't
we
just
continue
to
talk
totalitarianism,
Mr
taffenburg,
here,
tear
down
his
statues,
he's
already
got
rid
of
Calvin.
Why
don't
you
just
do
the
rest
of
them
and
get
it
over
with?
Thank
you.
AU
We
understand
that
many
citizens
will
want
to
exercise
their
Democratic
right
to
participate
by
making
public
comments
on
these
various
issues.
It
is
with
this
in
mind
that
we
respectfully
request
city
council
to
defer
the
first
reading
of
the
last
agenda
item
the
safety
ordinance
to
the
next
city
council
meeting.
AU
This
issue
is
not
time
sensitive
and
affirm.
It
causes
no
inconvenience
to
any
party
in
good
faith.
We
have
asked
our
constituents
to
not
make
public
comments
tonight
so
that
you
can
devote
your
time
and
attention
to
these
other
very
important
issues,
but
I
want
to
thank
you
very
much
for
your
efforts
in
representing
our
community.
AU
M
Good
evening
my
name
is
Erica
Coakley,
520,
McLaren
and
Trace
and
I
came
all
the
way
over
here
tonight
because,
first
of
all,
when
I
looked
at
the
agenda
and
what
was
on
it,
it
was
ironic
where
it
was
held,
the
time
that
it
was
held
and
the
people
that
it
was
actually
meant
for
it
to
be,
even
as
I
stand
here
tonight
and
I'm.
Listening
to
everything,
that's
happening,
I'm,
asking
and
encouraging
that
you
use
your
voices
to
help
keep
those
mask
ordinance
exactly
where
they
are.
M
M
So
again,
as
I
stand
here
and
say,
the
very
reason
for
the
meeting
critical
race,
Theory
and
the
things
that
it's
addressing
nice
for
it
to
be
in
this
lovely
comfort
of
your
hometown,
where
it
could
have
been
where
the
people
that
needed
the
most
bring
it
downtown
in
North
Charleston,
Bring,
It,
On,
John's
Allen.
Just
like
those
30
people
that
came
there,
the
room
should
have
been
filled
just
like
this.
So
try
meeting
people
a
little
bit
more
where
they're
at
and
we
can
take
our
mask
off.
AV
Tracy
Owens
I
live
downtown,
I
want
to
I,
want
to
say
first
thank
you
to
the
people
who
are
responsible
for
implementing
The,
Mask
mandate
and
I
would
also
like
to
say
that
I
am
in
agreement
with
the
special
Commission
on
Equity
inclusion.
AV
Unlike
certain
council
members
like
across
about
there's
statements,
they
don't
want
the
words
critical
race,
Theory
and
reparations
to
be
in
the
literature.
By
doing
so,
city
council
would
be
silencing
black
voices
and
the
people
who
built
the
City
of
Charleston.
If
this
document
goes
forward
with
the
change
in
verbiage,
it
would
go
against
the
purpose
of
the
commission.
Thank
you.
AW
AW
I
was
honored
to
be
asked
to
serve
as
the
chair
of
the
housing
and
mobility
subcommittee,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
really
good
work
done
and
we
were
charged
with
finding
inequities
and
bonding
Solutions
and
we
were
told
to
be
bold.
We
were
told
to
think
outside
of
the
box.
We
were
told
to
make
a
difference
and
40
people
from
different
walks
of
life
came
together
and
volunteered
their
time
I'm
getting
a
little
emotional.
AW
It
was
hard
work,
but
we
did
it
and
the
report
that
you're
receiving
tonight
is
a
beginning
and
we
were
told
that
not
every
recommendation
would
be
accepted
by
city
council
and
move
forward,
but
to
put
them
in
anyway,
and
that's
what
we
did
so
I'm
here
to
respectfully
ask
that
you
receive
this
report
in
the
spirit
of
equity,
understanding
and
excitement
that
fostered.
AW
Recommendations
that
are
in
it
and
to
forward
the
work
of
this
group
by
allowing
us
to
continue
to
work
and
come
together
to
make
Charleston
a
better
place
and
I
can
guarantee,
having
worked
with
mayor
Raleigh
many
years
on
issues
of
Housing
and
Equity
that
he
would
have
been
in
full
support
of
what
we
did
with
the
commission.
Thank
you.
AX
Hi
Annie
Doran
554,
Rutledge
Avenue
I'm,
here
to
speak.
In
regards
to
the
report
presented
by
the
commission
on
Equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation.
The
history
oppression
of
Oppression,
of
people
of
color
in
Charleston
has
deeply
affected
the
city.
To
this
day.
Local
statistics
show
that
there
are
huge
discrepancies
in
the
treatment,
as
well
as
the
economic
resources
available
to
people
of
color
and
I.
Commend
this
commission
for
the
thoughtful
thorough
work
to
come
up
with
Solutions
and
Empower
thousands
of
underserved
Charleston
citizens,
racism
and
its
Legacy
is
a
pervasive
problem
requiring
bold
and
groundbreaking.
AX
Solutions
I
understand
that
this
report
will
face
opposition.
However
I'm
here
to
ask
you
to
put
Solutions
over
the
status
quo.
Look
forward
to
a
time
when
history
will
reflect
on
this
moment.
Charleston
has
an
opportunity
to
be
a
leader
and
a
model.
Do
you
want
to
be
remembered,
as
the
council
Who
Rose
to
the
occasion
or
who
shrunk
in
the
face
of
change?
AX
A
AY
Elizabeth
Brackett
161,
Beresford,
Creek
Street
I
had
a
lot
of
things
that
I
was
going
to
say
tonight:
I'm
not
going
to
address
the
fact
that
there's
no
medical
evidence
to
support
masks
for
our
children
or
for
anybody
that's
been
covered
tonight.
AY
Osha
guidelines
haven't
but
I'm
sure
there's
somebody
here,
who'll
cover
that.
But
what
I'm
here
to
say
is:
is
last
year
I'm
a
former
teacher
I
have
a
master's
degree
and
when
I
saw
statues
coming
down
last
year,
myself
and
many
Americans
realize
that
we're
on
a
dangerous
slope.
We
were
heading
down
the
road
to
Communism
and
right
now.
What
we're
seeing
in
our
nation
is
we're
seeing
forced
mandates.
It
goes
against
our
state
law,
it
goes
against
our
constitutional
law
and
it
goes
against
our
civil
liberties,
we're
not
a
communist
Nation.
AY
AY
So
we
need
to
stop
these
mandates.
We
need
to
remember
that
we
are
a
free
country
time.
We
have
many
many
Americans,
my
our
founding
fathers,
my
great
great
great
uncle
Francis
Hopkinson
signed
the
Declaration
of
Independence
and
when
he
did,
he
knew
he
was
signing
his
death
warrant.
My
grandfather
died
in
World
War
II
fighting
for
the
very
freedoms
that
we're
standing
for
here
tonight
time.
So
we
need
to
fight
for
America.
We
need
to
teach
the
United
States
Constitution
in
the
classrooms,
not
critical
race
Theory.
AY
We
need
we
need
to
teach
the
Federalist
Papers
and
we
need
to
teach
Americans
how
to
be
Americans.
I
have
never
seen
our
country
so
divided
a
few
years
ago.
We
all
came
together
in
solidarity
because
of
what
happened
at
mother
Emanuel
and
now
here
we
are
more
divided
than
ever.
This
is
not
the
city
or
the
state
that
I
grew
up
in.
Thank
you,
ma'am.
AZ
AZ
Does
anybody
want
to
answer
okay,
so
there
we
go.
Fear
fear
fear.
So
can
we
give
y'all
some
advice
since
you
want
to
dictate
and
mandate
things
on
us?
There's
four
vaccines
go
get
all
of
them
and
go
take
all
33
boosters
and
then,
if
that
doesn't
work,
put
33
masks
on
your
face
and
if
that
does
not
work
stay
home
for
666
days
there
you
go
and
guess
what
y'all
might
not
understand
those
numbers
guys,
but
I
can
guarantee
you
that
mayor
does
we're
awake.
AZ
W
W
W
BA
BA
I
ask
that
God
pierces
every
single
one
of
your
hearts
I
could
sit
here
and
preach
at
you,
but
every
single
one
of
you
knows
men
like
my
husband
that
got
up
and
walked
when
God
audibly
spoke
to
him
and
said
your
legs
will
work
and
he
walked.
You
know
what
our
men
and
women
have
sacrificed
for.
You
know
exactly
what
you've
done.
You've
made
a
deal
with
the
devil.
Dear
heavenly
father
I
asked
God
that
you
would
Pierce
every
single
one
of
their
hearts,
God
that
you
would
pour
out
your
spirit.
BB
Where
your
spirit
is,
we
have
freed
of
God
and
this
nation.
We
will
not
to
the
devil
God,
but
we
will
open
up
our
God
for
your
spirit
to
Reign.
We
will
not
bow
down
to
Communism.
We
will
not
allow
this
regime
to
continue.
We
will
not
be
silent,
silence,
you
know
Governor
McMaster
and
what
he
ordered.
BA
BC
My
name
is
Richard
Morris
I
live
at
44,
Pendleton
Street
in
Charleston,
dear
Council.
Thank
you
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
on
the
emergency.
Mask
ordinance.
I've
heard
words
such
as
simple,
easy
and
common
sense
to
describe
masking,
however,
for
special
needs
children
and
their
parents.
They
are
anything
but
I
have
a
son
with
epilepsy
and
while
he
may
be
eligible
for
a
medical
exemption
under
this
ordinance,
they
will
not
avoid
psychological
trauma
and
a
mandatory
masking
environment.
BC
If
you
were
a
young
boy
with
a
special
need,
would
you
like,
explaining
daily
to
your
schoolmates,
why
you
don't
have
to
wear
a
mask,
should
be
optional
for
all
children,
full
stop.
No
child
or
parent
should
have
to
explain
pediatric
medical
conditions
to
anyone
other
than
a
pediatrician.
We
know
that
for
children
between
0
and
12
covet
is
about
as
dangerous
as
a
bad
flu
season.
What
we
do
not
know
is
a
psychological
trauma
that
mandatory
masking
has
on
children.
Do
children
with
medical
exemptions
feel
unworthy?
BC
BD
My
name
is
Tammy
canapo
I'm
from
Mount
Pleasant
I
just
want
to
know,
if
you
guys
believe
in
the
Constitution,
and
if
you
do,
why
are
you
taking
away
our
history?
Why
are
you
trying
to
create
division
among
all
of
us,
we
believe
in
the
Constitution.
This
area
of
Charleston
is
one
of
the
most
United
places
I've
ever
seen
in
my
life
and
you're
trying
to
split
us
apart,
you
need
to
stop.
You
need
to
help
the
unification.
We
are
Americans.
We
are
not
marxists,
we're
not
Communists,
so
stop
it.
BD
BE
My
name
is
Pringle
Franklin
and
I
live
at
108.
Butane,
Street
I
just
want
to
say
that
I'm
here
to
speak
about
the
report
from
your
special
Commission
on
equity
and
inclusion.
It
seems
to
be
happening
awfully
fast.
I
appreciate
that
many
people
have
put
time
into
coming
together
to
come
up
with
Solutions,
but
I
as
a
resident
of
the
City
of
Charleston
would
like
for
more
people
to
be
able
to
read
the
report.
It's
very
lengthy
and
complicated.
These
are
important
questions
before
us.
BE
I
know,
there's
some
good
things
in
this
report
and
I
also
know
there's
some
things
in
there
that
I'm,
probably
not
going
to
like
and
that
other
residents
are
not
going
to
like,
like,
for
instance,
I'm
100,
behind
our
police,
okay,
so
I
don't
want
anything.
That's
not
going
to
support
our
police.
My
mother,
who's
80
years
old,
was
attacked
on
viewfind
Street
three
years
ago.
She
was
pushed
down
in
the
dark
on
her
front
steps
and
the
police
saw
that
case
for
her
and
they
helped
her
through
her
trauma.
BE
AS
I
am
Mary
Skinner
and
I
am
from
Kane
Hoy
I'm,
a
fifth
generation
King
Hoy
resident
mayor
techlinburg.
Thank
you
for
having
given
me
this
time
and
other
gentleman
that
I
know
Mr
seekings,
Mr,
Waring,
Mr,
Gregory
and
most
of
all
Mr
Mitchell,
who
fought
for
Cain
Hoy
for
so
many
years
against
so
much.
We
we
go
back
a
long
time
and
I
am
here.
First
of
all
to
support
this
ordinance
that
you
will
hear
tonight.
AS
K
AS
Support
that
I
also
would
just
quickly
like
to
address
the
the
City
plan
and
ask
you
to
consider
two
things.
When
we
have
the
workshop
for
the
cane
Hoy
Peninsula
area,
which
you
all
are
going
to
provide,
could
we
please
have
it
somewhere
where
the
residents
of
cainhoy
can
attend?
We
couldn't
get
down
to
the
first
time,
reading
of
it
because
of
the
flooding
you
know
downtown
last
city
council
meeting.
Could
we
have
it
at
Phillip
Simmons,
High
School?
Could
we
have
it
on
Daniel's
time?
AS
Could
we
have
it
here
and
finally,
I
would
also
like
to
say
that
we
support
this
Coastal
conservation,
leagues
plan
and
ideas
for
the
city
master
plan.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
I
appreciate
it
and
I'm
so
glad
to
see
everyone
tonight.
Thank
you,
mayor
Taylor,.
AA
Mr
Mayor,
ladies
and
gentlemen
city
council
I,
came
here
tonight
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
infrastructure
and
about
affordable
housing.
They're
very
important
to
me.
It
seems
there's
something
they're
very
much
more
important
and
I
want
to
thank
you
tonight,
because
we
started
out
this
meeting
with
prayer
and
for
the
pledge
of
allegiance
to
the
United
pledge
allegiance
to
the
United
States
I
appreciate
you
for
that.
I
grew
up
in
a
school
system
here
in
South
Carolina,
where
we
prayed.
AA
We've
said
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance,
where
we
said
the
23rd,
psalm
and
I
wonder
where
would
you
be
today,
instead
of
here
fighting
among
each
other?
If
we
had
kept
those
Concepts
in
our
schools
and
in
our
country?
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
I
support
no
mass
for
children,
but
I
also
want
you
to
know
that
we
are
we're
in
a
Crossroads
in
our
life
in
our
country,
in
our
city
and
I,
just
beg
you
for
taking
critical
race
Theory.
We
don't
need
critical
race
Theory.
We
need
to
begin.
AA
We
are
a
part
of
a
community,
a
black
community,
a
white
Community,
whatever
we
are
We
Are
All
One
people,
we
love
each
other-
we've
been
in
this
with
in
this
sit
in
this
place.
For
many
years
we
have
black
friends,
white
friends,
we
come
together,
we
talk,
it
is
a
special
time.
So
please,
before
you
consider
critical
theory,
let's
go
back
to
the
word
of
God
and
take
what
he
has
to
say
and
use
that
to
make
our
decisions.
Thank
you.
BF
Good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members,
thank
you
for
inviting
me
to
speak.
My
name
is
Dr
Elizabeth,
Mack
and
I'm
a
board
certified
pediatrician
and
pediatric
critical
care
physician
here
in
Charleston
I
do
wear
a
mask
at
least
12
hours
a
day,
as
do
my
colleagues
and
I've
been
caring
for
children
with
covid
and
Miss
C,
and
many
other
conditions
for
the
last
year
and
a
half
here
and
I
serve
with
great
privilege
and
I'm,
so
grateful
that
you
trust
us
for
your
most
precious
gifts.
BF
As
you
may
have
seen,
several
of
us
participated
in
a
press
conference
earlier
today
with
State
superintendent,
Spearman
D,
hex,
epidemiologist,
Dr,
Linda
Bell,
discussing
the
safe
return
to
school
and,
as
we
all
know,
the
Delta
variant
is
incredibly
contagious.
My
colleagues
and
I
are
concerned
that
we
will
soon
encounter
more
preventable
deaths
and
the
hospitals
will
be
Beyond
capacity
and
we
have
the
power
to
stop
this.
BF
The
science
supports
the
universal
masking
of
students
greater
than
two
years
of
age
staff
and
teachers
in
schools,
regardless
of
vaccination
status,
particularly
in
a
community
like
ours,
where
the
rates
are
soaring.
This
week
across
this
country,
Children's
Hospitals
have
had
a
record
rate
of
Rise
121
000
new
cases.
Last
week,
on
top
of
the
usual
causes
of
pediatric
hospitalization
I,
ask
you
to
consider
what's
good
for
kids,
which
is
in-person
safe
schooling
and
I.
Ask
you
to
consider
what's
bad
for
kids
learning
loss
covet
and
Missy
children
need
to
be
inspired
consistently.
BF
BG
My
name
is
Sam
Franklin
I
live
at
108
butane
street
I'll
keep
it
short
and
sweet
I'm
here
in
response
to
the
special
Commission
on
Equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation,
while
I
respect
all
the
hard
work.
That's
gone
into
a
report
like
this.
It
is
545
pages
long
and
I
think
it
requires
a
little
more
study
and
especially
input
from
the
local
community
before
a
document
like
this
is
incorporated
into
the
the
philosophy
of
the
city
council.
Thank
you,
so
very
much
for
your
time.
BH
Hello,
governorsov
I
urge
you
to
accept
the
recommendations
of
the
commission
on
Equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation.
The
median
white
family
in
this
country
has
11
times
the
wealth
of
the
median
black
family.
You
can
walk
from
the
East
side
to
King
Street
to
Gaston's
green
and
see
quite
easily
that
we
live
in
a
profoundly
unequal
City.
The
peninsula
is
a
password
quilt
of
white
wealth
and
black
neighborhoods
in
need
of
repair
I
believe
there's
not
only
a
moral
obligation
but
real
urgency
to
taking
action
on
racial
Equity.
BH
BI
My
name
is
Marcus,
McDonald
and
I
believe
there's
several
who
Reserve
their
time
for
me.
China
and
I'm,
beginning
yeah
yeah.
You
can
preserve
people's
time
anyways,
so
I
got
timers
over
me.
Can
I
do
that
and
get
another
minute
can
I
do
that?
Okay?
Well,
that's
fine!
Well,
I
get
it
started.
My
name
is
Marcus
McDonald
I'm
with
Charleston
black
lives
matter,
I'm
in
support
of
the
commission
on
Equity
inclusion,
racial
consolation,
but
before
I
start
I
will
have
to
say
some
of
the
comments.
BI
Y'all
said
before
out
of
pocket.
Y'all
are
not
a
slave
class.
Y'all
don't
need
to
let
them
breathe
because
in
that
jail
they
put
a
spit
Mass
over
a
man
and
he
died.
So
don't
put
a
sign
that
says,
let
me
breathe.
Y'all
can
breathe,
y'all,
be
all
right
regardless
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
commission
on
equity
and
that's
what
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
reason
we're
here
today
because
for
hundreds
of
years,
can
you
for
hundreds
of
years.
BI
Okay,
thank
you.
The
reason
we're
here
today
is
because
hundreds
of
years
of
us
prioritizing
money
over
people
and
we
can
no
longer
make
that
mistake
for
this
be
truly
adjust.
Equitable,
unified
City.
We
have
to
write
what
was
wrong
and
that's
what
we're
doing
with
this
commission.
So
I
fully
support
the
commission
and
not
not
care.
What
that
lady,
who
was
preaching
before
or
what
just
got
said.
We
do
live
in
a
racist
country
and
it's
a
racist
City
and
if
you
look
yeah,
wait,
wait
and
y'all
don't
need
no
critical
race.
BI
There
y'all
don't
need
no
critical
wasted,
cause
you're
standing
on
a
plantation
right
now,
you're
standing
on
a
plantation
right
now,
you're
in
fairbankment
right
now,
you're
a
big
Bank
pronun
station.
Then
the
black
Plantation
was
the
biggest
exporter
of
indigo.
We
support
we
ensuade,
so
many
folks
here
for
indigo
became
a
cash
crop.
It
became
a
cash
crop.
We've
cultivated
so
much
Indigo
here
they
legalized
slavery
in
Georgia,
because
Indigo
there
was
processed
here
right
here
right
here
at
the
plantation.
So
we
must
prioritize
people
over
money
and
we
must
listen
to
the
people.
BI
B
A
AY
B
BJ
BJ
BJ
BJ
BJ
BK
Sarah
Thompson
14
Poinsett,
Street,
hello.
My
name
is
Sarah
and
I'm.
A
student
at
the
College
of
Charleston
here
to
advocate
for
black
charlestonians
in
favor
of
the
commission
of
equities
recommendations
and
expansion.
BK
It
is
also
synonymous
as
to
why
black
people
of
this
country
have
not
received
reparations
yet
Jewish
people
and
Asian
Americans
no
longer
have
to
have
this
conversation
or
fight
for
theirs.
It
shows
me
that
this
privilege
and
anti-black
agenda
that
this
city
is
plagued
with.
Meanwhile,
when
I'm
with
any
black
friends
or
POC
peers
or
very
few
white
allies,
we
talk
about
how
many
out-of-state
license
we
are
seeing
an
apartment
apartment
complex
is
going
up.
We
talk
about
the
looks
and
flares
these
Taurus
and
ginger
fires
cast
down
upon
the
Palmetto
Road
sellers.
BL
Josie
germano
119,
Spring,
Street
I'm,
just
gonna,
say
that
I'm
sure
everybody's
here
has
been
to
downtown
Charleston.
It's
beautiful
all
the
restaurants,
the
shops,
everything
but
I
need
y'all
to
ask
yourself
how
I
got
to
the
way
it
is
today.
Ask
yourself
when
you
go
to
a
restaurant
who
cooks
your
food
when
you
go
to
the
shops,
who
can
even
afford
to
buy
that
ask
yourself
how
many
people
you've
kicked
out
your
home?
How
many
black
people
you've
kicked
out
their
home
to
build
all
these
new
houses
and
businesses
that
only
help
white
people?
BL
To
answer
my
first
question
on
how
Downtown
Charleston
became
the
way
it
is
it's.
The
continuing
oppression
of
black
people
out
after
over
400
years
of
oppressions
reparations
are
the
least
y'all
should
do.
I
can't
even
tell
you
how
many
white
people's
heads
turn
when
me
and
my
friend
walk
into
this
building.
I
can't
even
tell
you
they
didn't
even
know
why
we
were
here.
They
just
assumed
whether
it's
generational
wealth
or
not,
being
discriminated
against.
BL
BJ
Closer
thank
you.
I
have
three
boys,
two
of
which
are
at
home
right
now,
with
my
husband
I'm,
not
there
enjoying
dinner
with
my
son,
who
just
had
his
first
day
of
kindergarten
hearing
about
the
joy
of
his
first
day.
Instead,
I
am
here
pleading
with
y'all
that
you
vote
no
for
this
Mass
mandate
so
that
he
can
return
to
school
tomorrow
with
the
joy
that
he
experienced
today,
while
up
here,
I'd
like
to
cover
six
points,
one
masks,
Effectiveness.
BJ
BJ
AC
AC
I
can
tell
you
that
children
are
taught
to
see
other
people,
they
don't
see
color,
they
don't
judge
their
peers
by
the
color
of
their
skin
and
anything
that
we
do
to
try
and
stop
racism
by
creating
racism
and
hitting
One
race
against
another
is
very,
very
wrong.
We
need
we
have
things
to
do.
We
have
steps
to
make,
but
this
is
not
the
right
way
to
do
it
and
on
the
mask
issue.
A
AE
Take
this
off
just
so,
you
can
all
hear
me
move
this
up
a
little
bit
too.
My
name
is
Todd
weschler
resident
of
Daniel
Island,
1545,
Mitchell,
Worth,
Street
I'm,
also
the
chair
of
the
libertarian
party.
If
you're
not
familiar
with
the
real
libertarian
party,
we
are
a
party
of
Freedom.
We
are
part
of
Rights
and
right
of
choice.
AE
We
as
libertarian
as
the
chair.
Our
views
are
against
the
mandate,
but
it's
also
about
responsibility.
AE
Her
colleague,
tested
negative
early
last
week
ended
up
getting
symptoms,
ended
up
testing
positive
and
in
that
window
my
wife
was
in
close
contact
with
my
wife
tested
negative
this
morning
as
of
eight
o'clock,
and
it
was
a
breath
of
fresh
air
because
I
didn't
know
whether
I
was
going
to
get
it
whether
we
were
going
to
give
it
to
her
parents,
which
we
just
saw
this
weekend,
we
don't
know
but
the
mask
work.
So
you
have
the
choice.
AE
You
have
the
responsibility,
you
make
your
choice,
but
you
have
your
your
right
responsibilities.
BM
BM
A
BN
I,
don't
know
if
there's
five
members
that
were
on
this
thing,
besides
the
city
council,
that's
even
here
tonight,
but
I-
think
you
all
need
to
take
some
more
time.
I'm
asking
you
for
that.
As
a
former
city,
employee
and
a
citizen
here
for
all
my
life,
I
would
ask
you
to
do
that
there
and
give
the
Civil
ability
people
some
more
time
also
because
they
have
an
important
job
as
well.
In
this
your
character.
Thank
you.
BO
Can
I
move
this
yeah
hi
I'm
a
little
nervous
doing
this
I'm
nervous
about
public
speaking,
but
I
figured.
This
was
important.
My
name's
Nicole
trimmer,
three
or
four
marrington
Circle
I'm,
a
military
spouse
I'm
a
mama
for
I,
didn't
hear
anybody
mention
that
masks
are
really
about
risk
mitigation.
My
mask
protects
you,
your
mask
protects
me.
So
that's
really
more
about
lowering
who's.
BO
How
many
people
are
going
to
get
infected,
so
I
mean
even
if
it's
a
20
chance,
slower
I
think
we
should
take
it
for
our
kids
and
all
four
of
mine
wear
masks
all
day
at
school.
They're
100
used
to
it
and
they're
fine
with
that,
and
also
I
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
things
to
cover
on
here,
but
I'm
100
in
support
of
the
commission
report
and
honestly
America
is
really
behind.
On
that.
You
know,
slavery
was
a
travesty
and
we
haven't
done
anything
to
correct
it.
BO
Charleston
makes
you
know
all
this
money
off
of
the
entire
city.
That.
BM
BO
Built
and
you
know
we
should
do
preparations
so
Nicole.
BP
Good
evening
my
name
is
AJ
Gardner
4132,
Blue
Cross
Lane
on
John's
Island
I'm,
a
Seventh,
Generation
charlestonian,
something
not
many.
People
in
this
room
can
claim
you
let
Quorum
go
at
the
beginning
of
this
meeting
and
as
soon
as
the
Charleston
black
lives
matter,
president
spoke,
you
started.
Cutting
microphones
I,
want
you
all
to
inflect
on
that.
We
sit
here
on
Daniel
Island,
albeit
annexed
still
in
Berkeley
County,
one
of
the
wealthiest
and
most
whitewashed
areas
in
the
Tri-County
area,
where
students
are
zoned
for
Hanahan
to
discuss.
BP
BP
BP
You
allow
these
people
to
go
over
time,
break
Quorum
yell
at
City,
Council
Members,
which
I
know
Mr
Griffin
has
not
allowed
in
the
past.
You've
tried
today.
Why?
Don't
you
gavel
them
there?
It's
ecklenberg
and
shut
their
microphones
off,
just
because
one
group
is
louder,
does
not
make
them
the
majority
in
this
town,
they're,
the
only
ones
who
know
about
it.
BP
AC
BQ
Good
afternoon,
I
didn't
sign
up
to
speak,
but
I
see
we
have
a
little
space,
so
I'm
representing
my
kids,
who
go
to
CCD
schools
and
all
last
year
they
had
to
wear
masks
so
and
unfortunately,
in
our
school,
when
the
mask
Monday
was
lifted,
they
were
in
minority.
So
let
me
say
my
daughter
experienced
headaches
all
year
pretty
much
and
nauseating
coming
into
the
car.
She
she's
only
four,
so
my
seven-year-old
suffered
balanced
issues.
Also,
they
were
bullied
for
not
having
a
ripe
mask
or
for
having
a
right
mask.
BQ
A
K
Didn't
intend
that
to
speak,
but
I
feel
like
I.
Have
a
nudge
and
I
have
some
history
lesson
to
share
for
my
Personnel
experience.
I
grew
up
in
socialist
country
and
I'm
first
generation
immigrant
here
in
the
United
States,
and
it
hurts
my
heart
to
see
how
your
country
is
falling
down
to
the
Communist
party.
If
any
of
you
don't
know
what
I'm
wearing
here
in
the
neck,
I
would
encourage
you
to
research.
This
is
communist
sign.
K
Pioneer
Thai
that
I
had
to
wear
until
I
was
in
school
till
fifth
grade
right
now,
I
see
the
mask
is
a
sign
of
Communist
party
in
this
country.
Do
not
shot
the
microphone.
Let
me
talk
what
you
are
black
and
white
teaching
your
kids
in
your
schools.
Great
schools
here
is
Division
I,
encourage
you
to
unite
stand
up
for
your
history.
You
have
a
rich
history,
don't
lose
this
country
because
this
is
the
American.
This
is
the
freedom.
This
is
where
I
came
as
a
cleaning.
Lady
worked.
K
A
V
Good
evening
my
name
is
Karen
Gersh
I'm,
a
practicing
cardiothoracic
surgeon
for
14
years
here
in
Charleston,
not
at
MUSC
I
was
a
resident
for
11
years
and
of
that
time,
I
wore
a
mask
virtually
the
entire
time.
It
seems
only
intuitive
that
a
surgeon
wears
a
mask
for
obvious
reasons:
I
work
at
a
hospital
now
that
is
in
a
surge
I'm
watching
my
nurses
suffer
my
respiratory
therapist
supper
as
we're
taking
care
of
children
as
we're
watching
young
adults
die
on
ECMO
as
we're
watching
amputations,
dialysis
and
strokes
of
young
people.
V
As
a
mother,
I
am
asking
for
a
mandate
to
allow
me
to
keep
my
children
safe
until
I
can
consent
for
them
to
have
a
vaccine.
It
is
your
choice.
To
have
a
vaccine.
I
will
continue
to
care
for
you.
If
you
haven't,
I
would
be
compassionate
to
you
if
you
haven't
I'm
asking
you
to
be
compassionate
for
me
as
a
mother
who
wants
to
protect
her
child
until
I
can
get
my
child
vaccinated.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
BR
Hi,
my
name
is
Gina
Holbrook
I
did
not
sign
up
to
speak
either.
I
got
here
a
little
late
being
that
you're
so
far
away.
BR
I
wanted
to
thank
council
members
that
were
on
the
commission,
hello
to
my
community.
What
an
amazing
time
we
are
in
right
now
to
be
able
to
speak
to
you
in
a
public
forum
and
and
this
time
as
a
woman
as
a
as
a
minority
woman,
and
to
come
together
with
my
community
members
of
those
that
I
don't
see
eye
to
eye
with
to
talk
to
you
about
how
we
feel
and
what
we
think
is
best
for
our
community
I.
BR
Don't
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
council
members
for
being
here
and
listening
to
all
of
our
opinions.
What
a
wonderful
time
we
are
in
I
want
to
say
that
I
excuse
me
that
I
am
in
agreement
with
the
commission
and
for
those
of
you
for
for
the
critical
race
inclusion,
the
for
whoever
said
it
was
really
long.
Yes,
it
is
500
and
some
odd
papers,
majority
of
them
being
photographs
and
crafts.
It's
not
long.
If
anyone
wants
to
read
it.
BR
BS
Hi
I'm
Dr
Julie
Lynch,
sassan
I'm,
a
chiropractor
I
came
to
Charleston
six
years
ago,
I'm
not
on
the
list
Mass
they
may
work.
They
may
not
work.
I
can't
say
that
the
majority
of
my
friends
and
I,
who
are
Health
Care
Professionals,
take
our
masks
off
in
between
each
patient.
My
children
can't
my
daughter
has
come
home
with
headaches.
Thank
God
I'm
a
chiropractor
because
I
can
help
her,
but
not
everybody's
parents
have
the
choice
or
the
ability
to
get
adjusted.
When
they
have
headaches,
our
children
need
to
breathe
freely.
BS
BT
Just
to
record
my
name
and
and
whatnot
for
the
record,
I'm
Joel
Sadler
I
live
at
three
Dewey
Street
downtown
my
wife
and
I
own,
a
retail
store
and
coffee
bar
on
line
Street,
and
we
would
like
to
speak
for
ourselves
and
other
of
our
peers
in
the
business
community.
In
support
of
the
commission's
report
and
recommendations
and
I
would
like
to
say
in
particular
in
regard
to
our
status
as
white
business
owners.
BT
What
we
feel
that
we
are
living
within
a
city
that
we
have
everything
to
thank
for
the
black
people
that
built
it.
That
created
the
wealth
that
we
that
attract
for
us,
the
culture
that
everybody
indulges
in
the
food
that
everybody
eats.
And
it
is
our
honor
to
operate
a
business
here.
BT
And
we
are
very
thankful
that
the
council
did
this
report
and,
in
particular,
I,
would
like
to
stay
for
the
record
that
we
are
in
full
support
of
the
reparations
component
of
it
and
would
be
3
thrilled
for
a
portion
of
the
money
that
we
pay
to
the
city.
Go
to
to
that
in
particular.
So
thank
you
very
much.
BU
Hi,
my
name
is
James
Palladino
I'm.
Sorry
I
took
the
list
away,
I'm
a
former
senior
firefighter
and
paramedic
I'm.
Not
here
to
berate
you,
you
can
all
take
a
deep
breath.
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
you
know
I'm
here
for
freedom.
Really
it's
it's
really.
Why
I
I
settled
here
about
my
family
I
brought
my
friends.
BU
It's
such
a
great
place
to
be,
but
to
be
told
you
have
to
do
something
and
to
be
told
your
child
has
to
be
to
do
something.
It's
not
really
the
numbers
all
right.
We
all
know
as
parents
staring
staying
at
the
bus
stop
in
two
weeks.
The
kids
are
gonna
start
tapping
out
because
they
all
start
passing
around
the
crud.
BU
It
happens
every
year,
it's
no
mystery
and
then
three
weeks
later
they
start
to
get
sick
again,
all
right.
So
let's
not
push
this
issue.
That
covet
is
jumping
into
the
kids
they're
going
to
infect
everyone
else.
They
have
plenty
of
stuff,
they
shift
around
all
right.
So
please,
don't
forget,
sorry,
don't
get
hogwashed
into
the
numbers.
Please
just.
A
BV
Hi
this
is
Dr
Bobby
Baker.
Thank
you,
I'm
speaking
on
the
special
Commission
on
equity
and
inclusion,
I
was
trying
to
read
through
this
long
report
and
I
just
noticed
a
few
action
items
that
were
of
concern,
especially
the
the
part
that
says,
examine
the
Charleston
Police
budget
for
potential
reallocation
and
savings.
BV
As
you
know,
the
crime
rate
in
Charleston
is
rising.
Upper
King
Street
has
been
closed.
Late
at
night
due
to
two
college
students
being
sexually
assaulted,
we've
had
tourists.
We
had
a
tourist,
actually
just
two
blocks
from
my
house
on
Atlantic.
There
was
held
at
gunpoint
and
robbed,
not
to
mention
the
poor
husband
of
the
Provost
of
the
College
of
Charleston
was
murdered
on
Laura
King
last
year.
The
last
thing
we
need
is
to
cut
any
budget
from
our
police
department
and
I
hope.
This
isn't
part
of
this
plan
and
I.
BV
B
L
As
a
director
to
descendant
of
Robert
Daniel
I'm
from
right
here,
yes,
sir
I
knew
that
Ross
Appel
was
corrupt
and
elect
moral
character.
Mayor
I'm
surprised
you,
let
me
explain
what
happened.
Ross
Appel
knew
that
I
was
getting
ready
to
go
for
the
traffic
and
tourism
section
about
the
illegal
closures
which
are
still
illegal,
so
what
he
did
was.
He
asked
the
neighborhood
to
write
a
bunch
of
letters
for
these
guys
that
live
on
the
golf
course
that
don't
want
their
public
streets
used
by
public
school
children.
L
They
had
50
people
from
38
families,
write
letters,
not
a
majority
Ross.
Do
your
math
and
you
mayor
when
you
got
it
said
good
work
case
closed.
The
case
is
not
closed.
It's
still
illegal.
It
still
hadn't
met
title
57
rules
and
you're
keeping
people
in
traffic
for
45
minutes
a
day.
You're
still
clogging
my
driveway
illegally
you're
still
blocking
the
roads
illegally,
and
when
are
you
going
to
do
something
about
it?
Either
vote
close
the
roads
or
open
the
roads?
L
AM
Good
evening,
thank
you
all
for
having
me
my
name
is
Katie
monic
I'm,
an
attorney
I'm,
a
business
owner
and,
most
importantly,
I'm
a
mom
to
a
rising
kindergartner
and
a
rising
third
grader.
We
live
in
Wagner
Terrace
and
we
love
our
public
school
I'm
here
tonight,
because
I
want
my
boys
and
all
of
our
kids
to
stay
healthy
and
to
stay
in
school,
so
that
I
can
continue
to
work
and
so
that
their
in-person
education
is
not
disrupted.
AM
This
year,
I
Echo
the
Physicians
who
have
spoken
and
who
have
been
before
you
many
times.
It's
indisputable
at
this
time
that
we
find
ourselves
in
a
Public,
Health
crisis
I'm
here
to
urge
you
to
meet
the
urgency
of
this
moment
and
to
pass
the
mask
ordinance
tonight.
Today's
Supreme
Court
ruling
made
clear
what
some
of
our
local
legislators
have
been
saying.
All
along.
There
is
no
mask
ban.
Universal
mask
mandates
are
lawful,
while
CCSD
voted
last
night
to
implement
the
mass
requirement.
It's
clear,
they
can't
go
at
this
alone.
AM
A
A
BW
Okay,
thank
you.
I
live
in
Gross
on
Grove
Street
in
Charleston,
and
while
I'm,
not
a
parent
I,
have
some
very
strong
opinions.
I'd
like
to
share.
It
is
a
parent's
job
to
feed,
provide
shelter
for
and
clothe
our
children.
It
is
a
school's
job
to
educate
our
children.
Parents
and
only
parents
have
the
right
to
decide
what
goes
in
their
child's
bodies
or
on
their
faces.
BW
If
the
city
is
adamant
about
requiring
masks
in
schools
or
face
coverings,
only
a
clear
face
shield
will
not
cause
further
detriment
to
a
child's
ability
to
learn,
socialize
and
remain
as
clean
and
safe
as
possible.
Masking
our
children
will
cause
them
more
harm
than
good,
and
that
sure
sounds
like
child
abuse.
To
me,
Mal's
are,
in
fact
dirtier
than
private
parts,
and
but
so
requiring
face
coverings
should
only
happen
if
teachers
are
trained
to
help
students
Implement
proper
sanitation
measures
such
as
changing
Maps
multiple
times
a
day,
especially
following
physical
activity
or
sweating.
BW
AS
Thank
you
Mr
Mayor,
my
name
is
Ann
Beacham
and
I
live
West
Ashley
on
Darlington
Circle
I've
heard
a
lot
of
people
talk
tonight.
I
would
like
to
say
one
thing
that
I
have
not
heard
I've
heard:
media
suppression
of
the
known
treatments,
early
treatments
that
cure
covet
of
her
I've
heard
suppression
by
the
medical
community
for.
AS
A
A
One
person
said
that
the
government
had
no
right
to
demand
their
child
wear
a
mask
and
that
they
should
leave
it
to
parents
to
decide
what's
best.
44
people
suggested
the
city,
mandate,
masks
and
schools
and
that
mask
wearing
protects
teachers
and
students.
It
was
not
a
political
issue,
it
was
a
critical
public
health
issue.
One
person
said
that
masks
worked
and
that
people
should
wear
them.
A
120
24
people
asked
to
implement
a
mask
mandate
for
several
months
until
children
had
the
option
to
get
vaccinated,
three
people
said
to
keep
masks
mask
wearing
optional.
Two
people
said
to
mandate
masks
in
public
buildings.
One
person
said,
cloth
mask,
did
not
work
against
Airborne
diseases
and
that
mask
wearing
should
be
kept
optional.
A
A
One
person
said
the
average
wealth
of
white
families
was
not
nine
hundred
nineteen
thousand
dollars
and
that
the
median
net
worth
was
one
hundred
eighty
thousand
dollars
and
that
the
numbers
from
the
economic
empowerment
report
recommendations
were
false
and
misleading.
One
person
said
that
city
council
and
the
mayor
refused
to
remove
illegal
roadblocks
near
Harborview.
School
two
people
said
the
recommendations
from
the
equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation.
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
That
will
be
the
end
of
our
citizens
participation
period
tonight.
Thank
you
all
for
coming
out
and
sharing
your
thoughts
and
feelings
with
us.
Next
up
is
our
petitions
and
Communications.
We
have
a
few
appointments.
First
up
to
the
housing
authority
of
the
City
of
Charleston,
Ms,
Kathy
Nelson,.
P
Ready
to
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
items
a
through
d
item,
one
a
through
D.
Oh
second,.
B
And
I'm
sorry
I
couldn't
hear
council.
P
Member
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
take
item
one
a
through
D
all
the
way
through
and
I
recommend
approval
of
all
a
through.
B
BX
Check
check.
Thank
you
good
evening,
mayor
and
Council.
The
settlement
proposal
before
you
tonight
is
a
result
of
a
mediation
that
took
place
this
morning
between
the
appellant
or
the
applicant
and
the
City.
It
is
regarding
40,
Market
Street
and
two
Anson
Street.
These
two
properties
receive
special
exceptions
from
the
bza
back
in
2016.,
and
requested
a
an
extension
of
this
vested
right
in
May
of
this
year.
They
missed
the
deadline,
so
boza's
hands
were
tied
and
whether
or
not
they
could
approve
this
per
statute.
The
approval
is
automatic.
BX
As
long
as
the
law
underlying
law,
the
zoning
ordinance
and
Land
Development
regulations
have
not
changed
in
a
way
that
would
preclude
them
from
being
developed.
The
appellants
arguments
are
twofold.
The
first
one
was
based
in
law.
They
claimed
that
they
missed
the
deadline,
because
our
ordinance
is
unclear
as
to
when
you
have
to
file
for
the
extension.
BX
I
do
believe
that
that
is
something
that
we
can
correct
via
an
amendment
to
our
ordinance,
as
it
is
not
clear
as
to
when
the
applicant
needs
to
apply
for
one
of
five
annual
extensions.
The
second
one,
of
course,
is
based
on
equity
and
that
they
claim
they
missed
the
deadline
of
December
31st,
based
on
covid,
related
delays
and
confusion.
BX
They
applied
for
this
extension,
the
first
of
May,
so
I
have
before
you
settlement
proposal,
wherein
they
will
get
the
extension
through
December,
31st
2021
and
in
response
they
will
ardently
begin
the
submission
for
their
preliminary
review
and
approval
with
the
bar
a
move
for
approval.
BM
B
Any
opposed
Samir
can
we
take
a
10-minute
break.
We
have
a
request
to
take
a
10-minute
break
since
we've.
BM
BO
B
Hours
I
think
that's
appropriate,
we're
gonna
reset
for
10
minutes
and
be
right
back.
Thank
you.
B
Offer
your
patience
appreciate
your
sticking
with
us
next
on
the
agenda
is
a
report
from
the
special
Commission
on
Equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation,
and
before
Amber
Johnson
gives
a
report.
I
would
like
to
just
thank
everybody
who
was
involved
in
this
effort
over
the
last
year,
the
Commissioners,
some
of
which
I
believe
are
here
tonight:
Alvin
Johnson
Dr
Kimberly,
Butler,
Willis,
Dr,
Fleece,
Knight,
Tracy,
Goran,
Darren,
Lee,
Calhoun,
Crystal,
Robinson
Rouse,
a
number
of
our
council
members
Amber.
Please
help
me
if
I've
left
anybody
out
Jerome
Harris
Arthur.
B
Well,
there
were
over
40
other
members
of
the
subcommittees
that
spent
countless
hours
over
the
last
year
discussing
what's
coming
before
you
this
evening,
and
we
just
want
to
thank
them
again
for
their
efforts
and
all
the
time
and
effort
they
put
into
it
so
without
further
Ado
I'd.
Also
thank
our
own
staff
member
Amber
Johnson
from
the
staff
point
of
view.
Led
this
effort
and
I
believe
she's
done
a
terrific
job
and
Amber.
B
She
gets
a
the
thing
straight
here.
Take
it
away.
BY
Yo
good
evening,
members
of
council
and
mayor
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
this
report
from
the
special
Commission
on
Equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation.
This
group
has
been
very
thoughtful
and
intentional
about
the
work.
That's
these
conversations
have
been
difficult,
but
I've
seen
so
much
growth
and
those
who've
been
willing
to
lean
in
into
that
uncomfortable
space.
BY
This
report
includes
a
list
of
key
terms,
but
I
pulled
out
a
few
that
I
thought
were
important
for
us
tonight.
I'd
also
like
to
note
that
a
workshop
is
being
arranged
for
council
members
to
help
us
to
help
ground
us
all
and
the
work
and
to
give
us
a
foundation
for
this
work.
I'd
like
to
begin
by
distinguishing
between
equity
inequality.
Equity
is
the
step
before
equality.
BY
Racial
Equity
is
the
condition
where
one's
racial
identity
no
longer
has
an
influence
on
how
one
fares
in
society
Equity
is
a
process
and
an
outcome
as
an
outcome.
Achieving
racial
Equity
would
mean
living
in
a
world
where
race
is
no
longer
a
factor
and
the
distribution
of
opportunity
as
a
process,
we
apply
racial
Equity
when
those
most
impacted
by
the
structural.
Racial
inequities
are
meaningfully
involved
in
the
creation
and
implementation
of
institutional
policies
and
practices
that
impact
their
lives.
BY
BY
BY
Reconciliation
is
to
restore
a
connection,
not
create
a
new
connection.
Conciliation
is
a
dispute
resolution
process.
It
is
an
action
of
mediating
between
two
disputing
people
or
groups
when
we
discuss
racial
conciliation
in
this
setting,
we're
not
restoring
a
connection
but
attempting
to
create
a
new
connection.
BY
Reparations
reparations,
served
to
acknowledge
the
legal
obligation
of
a
state,
individual
or
group
to
repair
the
consequences
of
violations
either
because
it
directly
committed
them
or
failed
to
prevent
them.
It's
important
to
remember
that
financial
compensation
or
the
payment
of
money
is
not
the
only
form
of
reparations.
Other
types
include:
restoring
civil
and
political
rights,
erasing
unfair
criminal
convictions,
physical
rehabilitation
and
granting
access
to
land,
health
care
or
education.
BY
Thank
you
why
we
lead
with
race.
We
leave
with
race,
because
racial
inequities
persist
and
across
every
system
we
can't
find
an
example
of
a
system
where
there's
no
racial
disparities
in
outcomes.
We
see
it
in
health
care
in
local
government,
criminal
justice,
housing,
it's
baked
into
the
creation
and
ongoing
policies
really
with
race,
because
when
you
look
at
other
dimensions
of
identity
such
as
gender
sexuality,
education
ability,
there
are
inequities
there
based
on
race.
BY
On
June
20th,
this
Council
created
the
special
Commission
on
Equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation.
We
took
a
considerable
amount
of
time
thinking
about
who
we
should
include
in
this
effort.
We
we
were
able
to
assemble
some
of
the
best
and
brightest
from
across
the
city
to
help
us
with
this,
not
only
subject
matter,
subject
matter
experts,
but
also
also
people
who
understand
racial
equity
and
what
that
looks
like
and
changing
policy.
BY
This
has
been
a
massive
undertaking,
but
we're
grateful
for
those
who
volunteered
their
time
and
their
expertise.
We
had
six
council
members,
seven
committee
chairs,
with
five
to
seven
people
total
on
their
on
their
committees,
for
a
total
of
over
49
volunteers,
and
each
subcommittee
was
staffed
with
city
City
staff
from
across
different
departments.
BY
BY
So
using
the
Avery
Richard
Center's
report
entitled
the
state
of
racial
disparities
in
Charleston
County,
we
developed
the
focused
areas
for
these
subcommittees.
The
different
areas
included
criminal
justice,
economic
empowerment,
Health
disparities
and
environmental
justice,
history
and
culture,
housing
and
Mobility
internal
review
and
youth
in
education.
Since
September
of
2020,
the
subcommittee
subconducted
over
68
meetings,
the
commission
has
met
more
than
15
times.
This
group
was
charged
with
making
the
city's
apology
for
slavery
and
Jim
Crow
more
than
just
a
promise,
but
a
commitment
to
dismantling
systemic
risk
racism.
BY
They
were
asked
to
challenge
us
as
an
organization
and
present
us
with
out
of
the
box
recommendations
that
will
challenge
the
status
quo.
The
seven
committees
have
prepared
recommendations
and
strategies
in
each
of
these
areas.
I
would
like
to
highlight
a
few
of
their
long-term
goals:
Criminal
Justice
Reform,
reimagined,
Police
Services,
with
the
goal
of
building
trust
with
the
community
and
the
police
department.
Economic
empowerment
reduce
the
black
income
poverty
rate
by
10
percent
in
over
10
years
and
increased
black
assets
by
20
over
the
next
20
years.
BY
Internal
review
Implement
a
cultural
and
systemic
shift
with
the
city,
so
more
city
employees
will
be
able
to
recognize,
evaluate
and
set
forth
goals
and
benchmarks
to
make
their
departments
racially.
Equitable.
Youth
and
education
develop
a
more
robust
programmatic
partnership
with
Charleston
County
School
District
to
help
Advance
racial
equity
in
local
schools,
foreign.
BY
BY
We
hope
to
be
able
to
distribute
them
to
the
standing
committees
and
the
appropriate
other
committees
after
we've
had
discussions
with
the
committee
chairs.
Implementation
of
these
recommendations
would
require
coordination
with
the
standing
committees,
our
our
current
special
commission
committee
chairs
the
co-chairs
of
the
special
commission
and
myself
to
ensure
that
we
keep
this
process
moving
forward.
BY
The
city
has
made
a
formal
apology
for
slavery,
but
the
best
apology
has
changed.
Behavior.
The
recommendations
are
the
first
step
in
creating
that
change.
The
work
is
not
the
responsibility
of
one
person.
One
mayor
or
one
city
council
will
take
all
of
us
to
embed
this
work
into
the
fabric
of
the
organization.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
the
opportunity
to
create
a
report
with
recommendations
to
help
the
city
Advance
racial
equity.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Any
questions
for
Miss
Johnson
I
would
like
to
offer
just
a
a
moment
of
historical
perspective
of
my
own
as
to
how
we
got
here
tonight.
B
This
city
last
year
celebrated
it's
350th
birthday.
We
didn't
have
much
of
a
party
because
of
covid,
but
it
was
our
350th
birthday
and
just
a
few
years
ago,
as
Amber
mentioned,
this
city
approved
an
apology
not
for
what
anybody
did
individually,
but
what
this
city
government
did
as
an
institution
prior
to
1865
to
directly
administer
the
institution
of
slavery
in
this
city
and
in
the
low
country.
B
B
We
resolve
to
continue
to
do
something
about
those
inequities
that
were
created
and
so
about
the
same
time,
there
was
a
report
very
well
documented
by
the
Avery
Institute
at
College
of
Charleston
that
outlined
true
real
inequities
that
exist
in
our
city,
our
society
and
the
world.
Really,
if
you
look
at
it
that
way
and
as
a
city,
we
did
proceed
with
certain
actions,
such
as
a
racial
bias,
audit
of
our
police
department
and
begin
the
process
of
making
recommendations.
B
B
The
way
I
look
at
it,
but
notably
a
little
over
a
year
ago,
up
in
Minneapolis,
there
was
a
murder
of
an
African-American
man,
George
Floyd,
and
it
once
again
ripped
off
the
scab
of
racism
and
raised
not
just
local,
not
just
National,
but
I
would
say,
Global
awareness
of
racism
and
inequities
in
our
world,
and
so
that
led
to
the
foundation
formation
of
this
Commission
and
again
I
thank
the
Commissioners
for
their
hard
and
diligent
work.
They
were
asked
to
consider
anything
under
the
sun
that
might
be
helpful
in
addressing
racial
inequities.
B
B
If
you
will
of
this
commission
continue
this
work
because
it
doesn't
end
tonight
and
even
if
you
approved
every
recommendation,
you
wouldn't
end
racism
in
the
world.
This
is
a
journey
we're
on
folks
I
view
it
that
way
to
try
to
build
respect
for
our
brothers
and
sisters,
all
of
God's
children
on
this
planet.
B
So
that
being
said,
I
would
like
to
call
on
our
code.
Commissioners,
our
co-chairman
of
the
commission,
I,
didn't
actually
serve
on
it.
Personally,
although
I
attended
a
few
of
the
meetings,
our
co-chair
of
the
commissions
were
a
council
member,
Dudley,
Gregory
and
Jason
sakron
and
I'd
like
calling
each
of
them
to
make
a
few
remarks.
Council.
BZ
Member
Mr
Mayor
I
I
appreciate
you're
receiving
this
report.
BZ
BZ
We
are,
however,
want
to
be
able
to
send
this
to
the
appropriate
standing
committee,
our
committee
for
consideration
to
move
forward
with
any
recommendations.
They
may
glean
from
the
report
that
the
body
of
the
whole
should
review
so
mayor,
I'd
like
to
offer
a
motion
so
that
we
can
solidify
this
because
just
simply
receiving
it
is
not
enough
point
of
order.
BZ
AT
BZ
Is
clearly
understanding
that
what
we're
trying
what
we're
about
to
undertake
is
multi-generational
folks.
It
is
not
going
to
happen
in
six
months
a
year
even
more,
because
we
instructed
the
commission
to
think
outside
the
box
and
to
be
very
intentional
with
their
work
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
disservice
to
the
commission.
BZ
If
this
body
does
doesn't
do
more
than
just
receiving
the
report,
this
Council
should
provide
instructions
so
that,
if
mayor
the
mayor's
not
here
are
any
of
us
are
not
here.
This
Council
has
moved
forward
with
a
a
charge
for
the
committees
to
undertake.
So
I'd
like
to
offer
a
motion
mayor
as
a
point
of.
B
Emotion
has
not
been
made
yet
I
I
would
like
to
point
out
to
council
member
Gregory
that
we
we
do
have
next
on
the
agenda,
an
ordinance
creating
a
new
commission,
a
new
iteration
as
I
mentioned,
and,
and
that
does
give
the
marching
orders
as
it
were,
that
you
that
you're,
asking
for
and
and
I
would
respectfully
say
that
I
I
think
we
could
have
a
concurrence
I'm
receiving
the
report.
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm,
putting
it
to
committee
as
appropriate,
as
we've
discussed,
as
the
commission
has
discussed.
B
BZ
Understand
that
clearly
mayor,
but
you
know,
and
and
maybe
it
is
a
point
of
order-
I
mean
I'm,
not
a
parliamentarian
but
I-
think
that
what
you
just
said
that
if
we
receive
something
that
does
not
require
action
and
I'm
saying
to
you
that
it
does
require
action,
it
does
require
action.
It's
not
going
to
just
sit
as
information.
BZ
I
moved
the
council
formally
receives
the
report
from
the
special
Commission
for
the
purpose
of
charging
the
standing
committee.
Our
committees,
with
reviewing
the
recommendations
therein,
in
conjunction
with
the
commission
and
once
completed,
provide
full
provide
to
the
full
Council
their
conclusions
and
recommendations.
O
B
There,
a
second
I'll
rule
that
I
will
accept
the
motion
because,
honestly,
that
is
what
I
was
intending
to
do
as
a
mayor.
P
Griffin,
yes,
sir.
Thank
you
Mr
Mayor,
you
know,
I
was
I,
remember
that
meeting
quite
well
when
we
apologized
for
slavery,
and
it
was
probably
the
most
disappointing
meeting
because
of
the
way
that
it
got
out
of
control
only
to
be
taught
by
this
meeting
tonight.
This
is
I'm
just
totally
embarrassed
at
how
out
of
control
things
got
tonight.
P
P
I'm,
really
really
thankful
for
all
of
the
the
hard
work
and
the
Goodwill
that
they
they
brought
forward.
I'm
disappointed
that
they
didn't
have
I
think
the
direction
that
a
normal
commission
would.
They
were
basically
told
that
they
could
come
up
with
any
recommendation.
They
thought
was
right
and
it
now
is
presented
to
us
as
a
final
report.
P
P
Why
are
we
going
to
tell
people
that
we're
going
to
accept
a
livable
whatever
the
the
terminology
is
a
livable
working
wage
of
16.41
when
we
can't
even
pay
our
employees
fifteen
dollars
an
hour
right
now,
I'm
disappointed
that
we
are
going
to
accept
the
report
that
we
are
not
prepared
for
we're
going
to
give
the
commission
that
worked
for
a
year,
some
sort
of
hope
that
we're
going
to
somehow
come
up
with
some
of
these
things.
That
just
aren't
are
not
a
reality.
P
BZ
BZ
P
P
CA
B
B
In
addition
to
those
recommendations
that
you
mentioned,
it
also
recommends
create
new
funding
sources
to
support,
affordable
housing,
optimize
Charleston
housing
authorities.
Repositioning
strategy
of
public
housing
ensure
the
Low
Country
low
line
is
Equitable
and
inclusive,
improve
mix-use,
Workforce
housing
and
our
fee
and
lose
system
Provide
support
for
owners
of
Ayers
property
and
help
families
build
generational
wealth
increase
the
number
of
high
quality
subsidized
Health
Care
Providers
on
the
in
Charleston,
sponsor
consistent
and
sustainable
vaccination.
B
Prioritize
flood
mitigation
strategies
that
address
racial
equity
and
environmental
justice
address
climate
change
and
systemic
inequities,
so
I
mean
there
are
many
recommendations,
some
of
which
we
are
already
taking
action
upon,
like
the
formation
of
a
minority,
a
business
incubator,
we've
taken
that
recommendation
and
Council
has
already
approved
some
funding
for
for
the
creation
of
that
incubator.
So
I
hear
you
loud
and
clear.
That's
why
I
preference
my
remarks
I,
believe!
That's.
B
Why
councilmember
Gregory's
motion
is
that
we
receive
the
report
and
disseminate
it
to
the
appropriate
Council
committees
and
other
appropriate
committees
for
further
review
and
recommendation
back
to
this
Council.
So
there's
not
a
single
recommendation
here
that
we
are
approving
tonight
now
when
they
come
back
to
us
one
at
a
time
we'll
have
recommendations
to
approve
some
of
them
and
we
can
take
action
at
that
time.
So
this
is
just
part
of
a
process
that
we
are
part
of
a
journey,
as
I
tried
to
describe
that
we
are
embarking
upon
council
member
Sacramento,
I'm.
CB
Oh,
thank
you
mayor.
I
know
it's
been
a
long
night,
so
just
if
you
could
bear
with
me
for
a
few
minutes,
I
was
going
to
not
say
much,
but
I
do
want
to
just
say
to
to
councilman
Griffin's
point
about
this
evening
and
what
transpired
it
is
said
that
we
can't
have
a
civil
conversation,
whether
you're
masked
or
not,
mask
or
whether
we're
talking
about
the
commission
report
I,
would
urge
all
of
us
to
pay
attention.
CB
Read
it
before
you
pass
judgment
on
terms
that
you
do
not
understand,
read
it
so
I
just
want
to
say
I
want
to
personally
thank
the
mayor
for
for
asking
me
to
to
co-chair
the
commission,
and
it
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say,
as
a
white
co-chair
on
the
special
commission
I
think
it's
important
to
acknowledge
that
conversations
around
race
and
equity
are
not
easy
and
they
are
not
comfortable
and
I
felt
very
uncomfortable
many
times,
and
that's
okay.
CB
We
are
not
deciding
on
anything
this
evening,
we're
simply
acknowledging
the
hard
work
of
our
volunteers
and
the
tireless
effort
that
they
put
in
this
year.
I
just
want
to
thank
co-chair
Gregory.
His
wisdom
is
critical
and
his
fire
and
his
passion
are
still
evident,
even
after
and
and
and
from
2018
with
apology,
slavery,
I
want
to
acknowledge
Amber
Johnson's
tireless
work.
CB
CC
Bill,
just
to
you
and
Council,
just
a
a
parliamentary
procedural
point:
I
think
that
needs
to
be
made.
There
was
a
point
of
order
raised
the
mayor
effectively
overruled
that
point
of
order,
and
so
the
mayor's
ruling
was
appealed.
So
at
this
point,
pulmonary
procedure
would
require
that
the
council
vote
on
the
appeal
that
has
been
made
as
to
the
point
of
order
that
the
mayor
overruled.
Thank.
AC
B
There's
a
appeal
to
my
ruling
not
to
accept
the
the
motion
which
I
have
so
I.
Guess
we
to
settle
the
appeal.
We
would
have
a
vote
amongst
council
members,
whether
you
want
to
accept
the
motion
or
not,
but
that.
CC
Suffice
yeah
the
the
appeal
would
be
whether
or
not
the
point
of
order
is
valid.
Yeah.
The
mayor
has
said
that
the
point
of
order
you've
overruled
the
point
of
order
and
allow
the
discussion
to
go
forward
on
the
adoption
of
emotion.
CC
The
point
of
order
was
to
not
have
the
motion
adopted,
and
so
the
mayor
has
ruled
that
the
point
of
order
should
be
overruled
according
to
the
mayor's
ruling,
and
that
mayor's
ruling
was
appealed
and
so
now
counseled
as
to
vote
or
should
vote
on
whether
or
not
the
appeal
should
be
upheld.
Okay
and
if
the
appeal
is
not
upheld,
then,
presumably
the
motion
goes
forward
right.
B
So
we
have
a
a
matter
to
honor
the
appeal
or
not.
So
if
you
vote
yes,
that
means
you.
You
don't
want
to
consider
the
the
motion.
That's
right
and
if
you
vote
no,
you
you
agree
to
consider
the
motion
correct.
Okay,
any
discussion
on
the
matter
before
us,
council,
member
Appel.
D
Mr
Mayor
and
I
had
the
privilege
in
honor
of
serving
on
this
committee
for
a
short
period
of
time
and
I
and
I
want
to
say
what
I
said.
You
know
I
forget
if
it
was
last
week
or
the
week
before
that
I
respect
this
effort,
I
respect
this
work.
This
is
important
work.
This
is
courageous.
Work
to
undertake
in
a
city
like
this
and
I
want
to
see
this
work
continue.
D
D
I
remain
committed
to
this
work.
I
want
to
see
the
City
of
Charleston
become
a
national
leader
on
race
and
Equity
issues
on
things
like
affordable
housing,
Etc
the
list
goes
on
and
on
and
the
mayor's
you
know
noted
several
things
that
the
city
is
doing
already
we're
in
the
Parliamentary
procedure
portion
of
this
meeting.
This
meeting
has
had
a
little
bit
for
everybody,
I
mean
if
you're
into
parliamentary
procedure.
We
got
you
if
you're
into
what
we
heard
earlier.
We
got
something
for
you
there.
D
My
question
is
this:
what
does
this
vote
do
other
than
what
would
be
accomplished
if
the
report
is
simply
received
and
sent
to
committee?
This
report
is
already
in
front
of
every
committee.
Every
single
committee
chair,
whether
it's
the
public
works
and
utilities
committee,
whether
it's
the
Community
Development
Committee.
You
can
pick
this
report
up
and
run
with
it.
Yesterday,
I
think,
if
we
vote
on
this
report,
you
can
call
it
accepting
it.
D
You
can
call
it
receiving
it
whatever
the
case
may
be,
I
think
that
in
this
information
age
that
we're
living
in
in
a
time
when
it's
been
harder
than
ever
to
have
reasonable
candid,
honest
conversations
with
people
when
you
have
people
in
the
community
intentionally
trying
to
mislead
trying
to
scare
trying
to
distort
trying
to
get
people
tearing
each
other's
necks
out,
it
will
do
damage
to
this
effort
right.
I,
don't
think
the
public
is
going
to
understand
the
difference
between
receiving
a
report
versus
accepting
everything
in
it.
D
I
understand
the
difference
between
that
I
think
this
work
will
be
made
more
complicated.
If
everyone
on
this
council
is
forced
to
take
a
vote
on
this
issue,
we
don't
need
more
division
in
the
city
right
now.
We
have
a
wonderful
report.
I
don't
agree
with
everything
in
it.
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
what's
in
it.
D
So
my
question
is
this
I'm
sorry
I've
spoken
for
for
a
little
longer
than
I
anticipated
the
way
I
understand
the
rules.
The
report
has
already
been
received,
and
it's
already
before
all
the
commissions
and
the
Committees
I,
don't
understand
what
this
vote
does
we
don't
take
idle
votes.
We
don't
vote
just
in
the
in
the
abstract.
D
B
CB
B
CB
A
chance
to
finish
but
I'm,
going
to
defer
my
time
and
I'll
I
may
add
add
to
the
conversation
but
I
know
councilman
Gregory.
BZ
I'll
try
to
answer
the
question.
What
does
it
add
to
vote
on
what
it
adds
is
institutionalizing
the
process
if
the
administration
changes
of
anybody
on
this
body
changes
that
could
be
removed
with
with
a
stroke
of
a
pen?
BZ
S
Yes,
sir
I
I
was
going
to
say
a
couple
other
things,
but
for
right
now,
Can
Can,
we
ask
our
legal
counsel
to
to
advise
us
is.
Is
that
motion
that
councilmember
Gregory
is
putting
ahead
of
us
and
we
have
to
vote
now
on
the
appeal
that
basically
precedes
it
or
overlies?
S
It
is
that
correct
that,
if,
if
we
don't
take
such
a
vote
to
institutionalize
our
reception
of
the
of
the
full
report
in
order
to
send
it
out
for
deliberation
evaluation,
a
long
season
of
work
and
Community
engagement,
it
can
can
that
basically
end
with
the
change
of
particular
Council
committee
chair
people
or
the
mayor
himself.
Or
what
guarantee
do
we
have
if
we
don't
have
a
vote
like
councilmember
Gregory
is
suggesting.
CC
I
I
don't
know
councilwoman
that
you
that
there
is
a
guarantee
that,
even
if
you
were
even
the
council,
was
to
vote
to
receive
the
report
this
evening,
which
is
what's
on
the
agenda,
which
is
the
motion
that
that
would,
at
some
future
time
preclude
a
different
Council
or
a
different
mayor
from
revisiting
that
decision.
Now,
as
a
practical
matter,
the
report
is
already
before
Council
and
I.
Think
council,
member
of
hell,
is
correct.
The
council
has
a
report
voting
to
receive
the
report.
CC
Sort
of,
in
my
view,
codifies
if
you
will
or
symbolically
recognizes
what
is
already
before
Council.
It's
a
statement
seems
to
be
that
what
council
intends
to
do
is
to
receive
the
report
referring
to
the
committee
or
committees
for
further
studying,
perhaps
recommendations
each
Council
already
can
do.
S
Thank
you,
sir.
Then
then
I
I
do
have
one
final
thought
or
two
I
I
really
appreciate
where
you're
coming
from
council
member
of
Pell
in
terms
of
making
the
work
be
be
the
priority
that
that's
been
my
goal.
All
along
I
I
have
been
privileged
to
be
more
an
observer
than
a
participant
of
the
of
the
Brilliance
honestly
and
the
passion
and
the
originality
and
the
resolve
that
our
committee
volunteers,
under
the
leadership
of
the
of
the
seven
chairmen,
have
have
exemplified
and
produced
for
us
I.
S
Think
as
a
body
we
are
privileged
to
have
be
in
receipt
of
of
their
hard
work
and
and
and
hard
and
good
work.
S
So
I
don't
want
that
work
to
get
bowled
over
by
the
sentiments
of
the
kinds
of
comments
that
we
heard
tonight
or
that
what
I
understand
is
going
around
on
social
media,
that
I
don't
read
and
but,
on
the
other
hand,
I
I
did
have
emails
today,
as
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
us
did
and
when
I
wrote
back
the
the
truth
about
what
we
were
doing
tonight
was
receiving
the
full
report
out
of
respect
and
honor
for
the
work
effort
that
has
been
done
for
the
last
year
and
then
it's
going
to
be
immediately
forwarded
to
the
appropriate
committees
and
commissions
and
and
outside
experts,
again
for
the
deliberation
and
the
evaluation
and
the
hard
work
that
we're
going
to
have
to
do
as
leaders
to
make
something
out
of
this.
S
So
I
and
I
heard
back
from
several
of
the
people
who
said
well.
Thank
you
for
explaining
it
that
way.
I,
don't
really
know
if
I
still
agree
with
the
you
know,
outcomes
of
of
what
the
commission
is
recommending
to
you,
but
I
understand
that
you're
not
adopting
anything
tonight,
you're,
not
making
any
decisions
that
I
can't
be
part
of
as
a
voting
citizen
or
an
Engaged
person
of
the
community.
Because
part
of
the
recommendations
to
us
is
to
engage
the
community.
S
We
would
never
consider
making
these
sorts
of
major
Paradigm
shifts
to
our
society
without
engaging
the
community.
So
I've
been
thinking
about
what
comes
next
as
more
like
our
own
process
for
the
city
plan
that
went
on
for
a
year
and
a
half
where
we
never
made
a
step
without
putting
together
the
focus
groups
and
and
announcing
that
community
members
were
invited
to
look
at
a
particular
chapter
that
was
being
fleshed
out
and
and
give
us
their
comments.
S
So
I
I
do
want
to
join
councilmember
Gregory's
Motion
in
the
affirmative
and
I'm
ready
to
vote
on
the
appeal.
Thank
you.
B
Right
any
any
other
comments,
questions
about
the
P,
the
appeal,
okay,
so
I'm
gonna
call
the
question
on
the
appeal:
if
you
vote
yes,
that
means
we're
not
going
to
consider
the
motion.
If
you
vote
no,
it
means
we
are
going
to
consider
the
motion
correct.
That
is
correct
all
right.
So
here's
the
call
the
question
on
the
appeal
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
opposed
I
would
rule
the
eyes.
Have
it
so
now
we
all
right
I'm,
happy
to
ask
the
clerk
to
give
a
role
to
call
vote.
A
O
B
So
now
we
can
consider
the
motion.
That's
on
the
floor,
which
is
to
receive
there
is
a
distinction
not
to
accept
but
to
receive
the
report
and
to
refer
it
to
the
appropriate
committees
for
further
consideration.
Any
further
comments
or
questions
all
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
hey
all
right,
we'll
do
another
roll
call.
A
B
Fails
the
mayor
receives
your
report
and
I
will
direct
it
to
the
appropriate
committees
for
their
review.
Next
on
the
agenda
is
an
ordinance
to
form
a
new
iteration
of
the
commission
of
race
of
equity,
inclusion
and
racial
Recon.
Conciliation
can
I
entertain
the
motion,
move.
P
Councilmember
Griffin
I
I'm,
all
in
I'm,
all
in
favor
of
supporting
this
commission
as
it
moves
forward,
but
I
want
to
know
what
that
commission
is
going
to
be
pushing
for
because
I
heard
you
know.
I
listened
to
the
final
meeting
of
the
commission,
and
you
know
there
was
a
lot
of
talk
about.
You
know.
P
Those
kind
of
things
are
going
to
be
a
distraction,
and
it's
just
going
to
Super
charge.
This
crowd
like
it
was
tonight
and
I,
don't
want
to
see
that
moving
forward.
So
what
is
the
going
to
be,
especially
now
that
we
have
some
dissension
about
how
we're
moving
forward
and
some
of
the
terminology
in
here?
What
is
this
commission
going
to
look
like?
What
is
it
going
to
be
tasked
with
doing
now
that
we
have
a
very
we've
got
a
council
who's
questioning
questioning
some
of
the
terminology.
AT
B
Well,
the
the
ordinance
is
pretty
clear
as
to
the
purpose
of
of
the
commission
to
prioritize
racial
equity
and
will
work
with
city,
government
and
partner
with
outside
agencies,
in
an
effort
to
encourage
and
ensure
diversity,
fairness,
equity
and
inclusion
throughout
the
city
and
furtherance
thereof.
The
commission
should
identify
and
assist
in
addressing
all
forms
of
institutional
and
Community
discrimination
through
education,
advocacy
and
policy
recommendations.
That's
the
purpose
of
the
commission.
Yes
councilmember
Gregory
Mitchell
in
Waring.
BZ
Yeah
Mr
Mayor.
You
know
it's
unfortunate
that
you
know.
We
have
council
members
now
that
are
talking
things
that
are
not
true,
I
mean
in
all
due
respect:
councilman
Griffin,
you're,
you're,
now
you're
now
perpetuating
it,
because
the
commissions
reported
his
recommendations
for
discussion
and
your
acting
as
though
they
have
been
adopted.
You're
the
one
now
pushing
false
information,
councilman
Griffin
for
the.
O
Yes,
I
wasn't
going
to
say
anything
but
I
wish
that
some
of
the
people
who
was
here
making
all
these
noise
talking
and
making
all
these
throwing
these
things
up
at
us
was
still
here,
I.
Think
I'm.
The
only
person
sitting
on
this
Council
right
now
have
been
through
what
they
call
racial
discrimination.
O
Even
back
when
I
was
coming
up,
I
think
I
was
the
I'm
the
only
one
beside
councilman
Waring
that
was
out
there
when
I
got
locked
up
25
times
right
here,
trying
to
make
a
difference
in
the
City
of
Charleston.
I
was
here
and
they
talking
about
there's
no
racial.
It's
racial
here
in
City
of
Charleston
is
more
so
now
than
ever.
If
you
come
in
the
district
I
represent,
you
will
see
it
I
see
it
every
dog
one
day.
O
You
know-
and
it's
sickening
because
I
grew
up
here,
but
I've
been
involved
in
those
things
in
the
Civil
Rights
Movement
ever
since
I
was
14
years
old
and
still
trying
to
make
a
difference,
bringing
people
together
that
people
need
to
work
together,
not
going
to
agree
on
everything
but
working
together
to
make
the
place
a
better
place
to
live,
and
we
are
sitting
on
this
Council
right
now,
not
I'm
thinking
I'm,
the
oldest
one
sitting
on
the
council.
Now,
except
since
our
councilman
Louis
left
and
councilman
Gregory
and
I
have
seen
the
change.
O
We
are
have
things
ordinance
we
are
put
in
place
and
sometimes,
if
we
don't
act
on
certain
things,
whether
someone
that
there's
sitting
a
draw
somewhere,
you
know
never
get
to
it
and
we're
sitting
on
this
Council
here
debating
something
that
we
are
trying
to
make
the
City
of
Charleston
better
for
everyone
to
live.
O
I
can
take
the
building.
You
know,
if
you
can't
take
the
beating
to
me,
you
need
to
go
home.
I
can
take
the
beating
I,
get
beat
up
every
day,
come
in
the
district,
where
I
look
come
on
the
east
side,
where
I
go
away
every
day
and
see
what's
happening,
I
get
beat
up
all
the
time.
I
can
take
it
because
I'm
trying
to
make
a
difference
but
I'm
tired
of
seeing
my
colleagues
sitting
up
here
with
throwing
bricks
at
this
point
throwing
bricks
at
this
one.
O
O
I
got
a
very
diverse
District
I'm,
all
over
my
district
I'm
out
in
the
street
one
or
two
o'clock.
Every
morning,
none
of
my
colleagues
can
say
they
are
in
the
street
one
or
two.
Whatever
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
I'm
out
there
I
know
what's
going
on
in
the
streets,
because
I
figure
that
I'm
a
servant
and
I
should
do
those
type
things.
O
That's
me,
I
might
ask
no
one
else
to
do
it,
but
that's
what
I
do
in
my
district,
most
my
colleagues
say:
I
don't
have
to
do
that
because
they
don't
have
the
elements
that
I
have,
but
it's
getting
to
be
sickening.
My
hearing
things
from
this
console
and
hearing
from
other
colleagues
here
this
getting
next
to
me
with
that
and
I
think
we
need
to
change
this
kind
of
attitude
sometime
in
Council.
F
F
That
sounds
like
a
small
thing
now.
Oh
we
did
that.
Two
years
ago,
in
February
I
asked
our
chief
of
police,
and
he
didn't
know.
The
question
was
coming.
I
asked
him.
In
the
previous
five-year
period,
the
City
of
Charleston
had
over
130
000
pre-tax
stocks
in
the
black
community,
that's
known
as
driving
while
black
you
get
stopped
for
nothing.
You
get
rest.
F
F
F
F
And
one
of
the
reasons
for
that
is
some
of
the
requests
that
we
talked
about.
This
incubator
that
the
mayor
referred
to.
We
didn't
have
to
defund
the
police
to
do
that.
F
There
are
methods
that
we
all
know
as
a
man
12
members
of
council,
that
if
somebody
comes
up
with
a
good
idea
and
even
if
they
suggest
where
the
money
is
coming
from,
it
was
a
good
idea.
We
do
the
elbow
work
to
get
the
money
appropriated
to
implement
it
and
that's
what
councilman
Gregory
is
talking.
That's
what
the
mayor
is
talking
about,
assigning
it
to
the
Committees,
not
assigning
it
to
committees
with
the
directive
that
you
must
have
reparations
for
100
million
dollars.
F
We
know
better
than
that,
because
when
we
get
into
small
groups
in
those
committees,
that's
where
the
action
happens
for
city
council,
Dennis
reported
up
to
the
body,
because
the
body
feels
it's
been
properly
vetted
and
if
it
hadn't
been
properly
vetted,
it
takes
on
a
little
bit
more
vetting
and
those
committee
standing
committees
are
public
process,
we're
not
locked
away
from
the
process.
F
F
Did
we
do
we
accepted
their
report?
That's
exactly
what
we
did
when
we
had
a
report
on
the
task
force
on
whether
bars
should
be
open,
24
hours
or
not.
They
had
our
pictures
up
on
the
wall.
Councilman,
who
voted
to
keep
the
closed
bars
at
two
o'clock.
We
would
on
a
seven
or
eight
ten
most
wanted,
but
the
community
has
a
right
to
go
to
bed
at
night.
F
That's
what
we
get
paid
the
big
dollars
to
make
the
hard
decisions
in
the
committee,
so
all
of
us,
frankly,
all
the
comments
that
were
made
you're
right,
but
you
also
know
that
we
are
much
better
when
we
get
into
the
work
of
the
Committees.
That's
where
the
hard
work
is
done.
Being
an
elected
member
Council
to
represent
the
people
that
sent
you
here.
Thank
you,
Mr,
Men
Please.
Let
us
send
us,
as
you
said,
to
the
standing
committees,
continue
this
process
and
do
the
good
work
that
we've
done
in
the
past.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
what's
on
the
floor.
Right
now
is
the
creation
of
the
new
iteration
of
the
commission,
any
further
comments
or
questions
about
that
council,
member,
shade
and
Jackson.
T
T
When
the
mayor
made
reference
to
the
350
Commission
it
came
about
when
I
was
a
guest
speaker
at
the
West
Ashley
James
Island
business
meeting
and
quite
frankly,
came
about
a
comment
that
my
predecessor
I'll
be
Alexandra,
made
about
something
and
it
triggered.
In
my
mind,
this
is
a
350th
anniversary
of
the
City
of
Charleston,
and
we
put
together
a
commission
Mr
Belmont
just
correct
a
little
bit.
It
wasn't
to
celebrate
the
350
years
of
Charleston.
T
T
I
learned
a
lot
as
to
some
of
the
things
that
we
did
against
our
fellow
human
beings
and
I
was
looking
so
forward
to
the
events
that
we
had
planned
because
I
thought
that
was
an
opportunity
in
a
very
peaceful
manner,
to
celebrate
our
diversity
to
recognize
the
harm
that
we
did
to
one
another
over
time
and
to
come
together
as
a
city
to
propel
us
for
the
next
50
years.
So
when
the
400th
anniversary
came
along,
that
generation
could
see
the
progress
that
we
made
to
become
a
more
unified
City.
T
T
I
know
my
conversations
with
Chief
Reynolds
as
to
how
we
are
strapped
already
and
for
me
to
communicate
to
the
my
constituents
and
to
the
City
of
Charleston
that
I'm
going
to
institutionalize
a
report
that
talks
about
defunding,
the
police
or
approving
100
million
dollars
of
reparations
is
going
to
create
more
problems,
and
that's
why
I
voted
the
way
I
did.
T
But
the
issue
before
us
now
is
just
to
Pro
and
provide
this
new
commission
sort
of
redefined
a
little
bit
that
you
look
through
it.
You
see
what's
been
struck
out
and
and
what's
been
included
that
commission,
if
we
vote
on
this
ordinance,
is
not
institutionalizing
the
report
and
that's
important
if
I
thought
it
was
institutionalizing.
The
report
I
would
vote
against,
but
the
orders
as
it
stands
right
now,
is
simply
just
to
redefine
the
commission
and
take
out
some
of
the
things
that
the
commission
has
already
accomplished.
T
S
Thank
you.
I,
too,
am
going
to
support
the
ordinance
I
just
wanted
to
put
on
the
record.
This
is
this
is
for
our
first
reading,
so
it
will
come
back
to
us
before
adoption
for
a
second
and
third
reading
and
I
I.
Think
all
of
us
received
the
comments
and
I
actually
forwarded
them
earlier
this
week
from
one
of
our
committee
chairs,
Mr,
Jerome
Harris,
who
has
has
put
forward
just
three.
S
What
I
think
improvements
to
parts
of
the
ordinance
so
I
just
want
to
put
those
on
the
record
and
and
hope
that
we
can
add
them
in
before
we
get
the
second
reading
version,
essentially
he's
recommending
that
we
report
and
annually
that
the
commission
would
report
annually
to
the
public
and
City
Council
on
the
status
of
their
work
and
in
addition,
the
commission
will
be
supported
not
only
by
the
city's,
our
city
manager,
our
City's
manager
of
equity,
inclusion
and
racial
Equity.
S
Other
City
staff
is
needed
and
Consultants
as
needed,
so
he's
at
suggesting
we
add
in
outside
Consultants
as
needed,
and
the
third
is
that
we
will
establish
a
regular
time
and
place
of
meeting
just
like
we
do,
for
the
majority
of
our
commissions
have
a
monthly
meeting
on
a
reliable
day
of
the
week.
So
I'll
look
forward
to
having
those
in
the
second
reading
version
and
thank
you,
Mr
Harris.
P
Councilmember
Griffin,
just
to
be
sure,
I
make
it
obvious.
The
reason
why
I'm
going
to
vote
no
tonight
on
this
and
I
want
to
support
this
and
I'm
glad
we're.
This
is
going
to
be
have
another
reading
in
a
couple
weeks
but
letter
A
to
make
recommendations
regarding
the
implementation
of
the
special
commit.
Commission
final
report
and
I
just
want
there
to
be
Clarity
that
there
are
certain
terminologies
and
certain
ideals
that
we're
not
possible.
So
that's
what
I'm
going
to
vote
tonight,
but
I
could
change
my
mind
if
we.
B
Understood
yes,
sir,
any
other
comments,
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye,
any
opposed,
hey
the
eyes.
Have
it
next
on
our
agenda
is
a
report
from
the
health
and
wellness
advisory
committee
council,
member
Sheila.
Thank.
U
You
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor,
come
on
there.
We
go
all
right.
The
health
and
wellness
advisory
committee
has
been
very
active
in
listening
and
also
in
action
mode
lasts
several
months.
I
want
to
thank
Paul
Wieters,
our
Wellness
coordinator
for
the
city
for
all
his
leadership.
U
He
does
an
outstanding
job
of
keeping
us
organized
on
track,
but
he
also
built
some
incredible
relationships
with
medical
professionals
and
health
professionals
out
in
the
community
who
help
us
so
a
big
thank
you
to
Paul
I
want
to
also
thank
Robert,
Somerville
and
his
I'm,
sorry,
Summerfield,
sorry
and
his
staff
for
taking
the
time
to
listen
and
build
and
understanding
of
Health
in
all
policies
and
then
ensuring
that
it
was
included
in
the
draft
for
the
city
plan.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
U
We
continue
to
to
thank
Dr
Katie
Richardson
with
DHEC
she's
such
a
valuable
resource
for
us,
but
she's
helped
us
with
the
fast
track
cities
and
especially
the
updates
on
health
and
communities
throughout
the
pandemic.
Of
course,
we
appreciate
your
support
with
all
help
their
issues
and
encouraging
our
encouraging
us
to
have
a
healthy
Community.
U
Her
most
recent
reminder
is
that
flu
season
is
coming
up
and
she
wanted
us
to
convey
that
there
still
continues
to
be
a
strong
need
to
remind
everyone
to
get
flu
shots
along
with
obviously
getting
vaccinated
for
for
covet.
If
you
can,
we
were
able
to
get
a
brief
snapshot
of
homicides
and
suicides
in
our
City
ZIP
codes
this
past
month,
and
it's
helped
us
understand
some
social
determinants
of
Health
facing
different
zip
codes
and
some
opportunities
for
us
to
engage
in
and
to
improve
those
life
expectancy
challenges.
U
U
Finally,
we
had
the
MUSC
Center
for
violence
prevention
under
the
direction
of
Dr
Ashley
Hing
present
to
us
the
impact
the
impactful
opportunity,
their
prevention
strategies
are
are
geared
to
make
this
program's
now
up
and
running
Dr
Hank
shared
that
their
intervention
programs
are
separate
from
what
the
police
department
do
and
police
certainly
need
resources
to
fight
crime
and
violence.
However,
violence
intervention
programs
in
the
community
and
Health
Care
settings
are
separate
from
that.
The
criminal
justice
system
has
not
been
able
to
and
cannot
fight
this
alone.
U
The
MUSC
Intervention
Program
is
about
addressing
root,
causes
of
violence,
trying
to
break
cycles
of
retaliation
with
individuals
and
in
the
community
and
to
provide
wrap-around
services
to
connect
survivors
of
violence
and
others
who
are
high
risk
with
Services
pertaining
to
mental
health.
Substance
abuse
trauma
jobs,
education,
housing,
Transportation,
Etc.
U
These
programs
are
evidence-based,
cost
saving
and
address
issues,
Beyond
violence
for
our
high-risk,
Youth
and
neighborhoods.
The
last
instance
of
shootings
that
we
know
that
happened
are
thought
to
be
retaliation
for
shootings
that
left
another
person
dead
earlier
this
summer.
We've
got
to
break
these
cycles
and,
if
Charleston
wants
to
address
these
issues,
we
must
invest
in
this
work.
U
I'd
also
like
to
ask
Council
to
consider
funding
opportunities
to
ensure
we
keep
this
program
in
place
to
help
lead
us
through
our
efforts
and
make
make
change
a
reality
at
a
future
meeting.
I'd
also
like
to
have
Dr
hink.
Take
a
few
minutes
if
Council
would
allow
so
that
she
can
share
her
work
and
and
show
us
what
can
be
done
so
again.
Thank
you
to
an
incredible
team
of
Health
and
Wellness
advisors
who
care
and
are
ready
to
be
at
the
table
to
be
engaged
with
our
city
council.
So
thank
you.
Mr.
B
Mayor,
thank
you,
council,
member,
shealy,
you're,
doing
a
terrific
job
and
and
I
really
would
ask
y'all
to
take
a
look
at
that
meeting.
There's
a
lot
of
great
work
going
on
there
and
and
council
member
shealy
has
picked
up
the
Baton
from
council
member
seekings,
who
led
this
committee
for
for
some
time.
It
really
is
a
remarkable
Cadre
of
healthcare
Professionals
in
our
community
from
all
aspects
and
keep
up
the
good
work.
Thank
you,
So
speaking
of
Health
and
Wellness
next
is
our
City's
update
on
covid-19
and
Tracy.
CD
Yes,
thank
you
mayor
and
good
evening.
Council
members,
you
all
received
a
very
thorough
update
from
Dr
sweat
last
week,
so
I'll
be
very
brief
and
share
just
a
few
bullet
points
on
the
current
state
of
covet.
19.
CD
DX
press
release
today
reported
that
in
June,
more
than
90
percent
of
covid-19
cases
and
deaths
and
86
percent
of
hospitalizations
were
individuals
who
are
not
fully
vaccinated
in
July.
Those
not
fully
vaccinated
accounted
for
88
percent
of
cases,
77
of
hospitalizations
and
79
of
deaths.
CD
Dr
Brandon
Traxler
was
quoted
as
saying
the
rise
of
Highly
transmissible
variants
like
Delta
and
lagging
vaccination
rates
have
led
to
increases
in
these
categories,
including
breakthrough
cases.
Data
still
shows
that
vaccinations
can
end
this
pandemic.
If
enough
enough,
people
are
willing
to
roll
up
their
sleeves
Statewide.
The
coveted
positive
hospital
inpatient
population
has
increased
from
four
percent
to
over
19
percent.
Over
the
past
five
weeks
and
City
ZIP
codes
cases
have
been
rising
for
seven
straight
weeks
and
the
seven
day
trend
has
increased
83
percent
over
the
past
two
weeks.
CD
B
Any
questions
for
Miss
McKee
hearing
on
the
first
emergency
ordinance
we
have
to
consider
an
extension
of
is
for
our
own
meetings
and
Jerry
Copeland
I
think
you're
going
to
share
with
us
kind
of
where
we
are
with
that
and
how
long
what
we
have
now
last
I
guess:
I
I
believe
that
it's
pretty
apparent
with
the
rise
of
cases
that
we
we
weren't
quite
ready
to
go
back
to
City
Hall
count,
council
chambers,
yeah
and-
and
it
would
just
in
in
a
way
in
my
mind,
be
do
you
do
y'all
want
to
consider
continuing
to
meet
in
a
large
setting
like
this,
where
we
can
distance
and
still
have
the
public
available
to
us
or
go
back
to
pure
virtual
meeting,
but
Miss
Copeland.
BX
Thank
you
mayor,
so
ordinance.
2020
40
was
the
ordinance
suspending
the
requirement
for
physical
Presence
at
Council
meetings
for
Council
Members,
so
that
was
I,
believe
I'm
actually
trying
to
figure
out.
We
did
extend
at
the
July
meeting
Jennifer.
Was
it
this
particular
one
or
was.
A
BX
Yeah,
it
was
30
days
so
if
we
don't
vote
on
that
tonight
to
extend
it
in
any
way,
it
will
eventually
expire
prior
to
our
September
meeting
and
then
also
2020.
49
is
also
suspending
the
rules
for
our
appointed
boards
and
commissions,
including
Planning
Commission,
to
allow
for
Zoom
attendance
if
necessary,.
BX
B
BX
B
Asking
for
an
extension
for
60
days,
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
can't
stop
sooner,
but
just
gives
us
the
ability
to
go
that
long.
Councilmember
Brady,
who.
C
Okay,
there
we
go
technology.
Speaking
of
technology,
I
was
hoping.
We
had
talked
at
the
July
meeting
when
we
were
going
to
extend
the
virtual
aspect
that
we
look
at
incorporating,
especially
for
committee
meetings.
It
into
the
rules
of
council
going
forward
and
I
was
wondering
if
we
had
made
any
progress
on
an
ad
hoc
committee
or
something
that
could
come
up
with
recommendations
to
come
to
the
full
Council
on
that,
okay
for
the
sub
for
the
standing
subcommittee
meetings,
so
that
we
can
do
those
electronically
later
on.
C
We
had
talked
about
coming
back
to
council
with
a
recommendation
on
changing
the
rules
of
council
potentially
to
allow
for
virtual
attendance.
Okay,
that.
A
It
would
it
would,
it
would
require
a
change.
It
would
require
a
change
of
the
code
because
it
is
the
rules
of
council
are
in
the
codes.
Oh.
C
P
Sarah
I'm,
not
volunteering,
to
serve
on
any
more
committees,
even
though
tonight
was
rough
and
councilman
Shea
had
said
it
so
perfectly
we
were
among
the
people,
it
was.
It
was
democracy,
it
may
not
have
been
pretty
it's
I
mean
all
of
us
are
questioning
whether
or
not
you
know
we
should
even
be
in
these
seats
right
now,
but
we
have
to
be
among
the
people.
P
We
have
to
do
everything
we
can
to
be
among
the
people,
because
we
were
gone
for
so
long
and
I
think
part
of
why
we've
seen
such
an
influx
of
these
last
few
months,
since
we
came
back
in
person,
we've
had
some
hostile
moments.
I
think
that
there
there
are
people
that
have
been
wanting
to
face
us
for
a
while
and
didn't
have
that
option.
P
So,
even
though
this
is
tough
and
I,
definitely
don't
think
city
council
itself
is
the
right
place
right
now
due
to
everything
going
on
around
us.
If
we
can
keep
having
these
large
gymnasium
forums,
give
the
people
the
opportunity
to
get
up
and
speak
their
mind,
it's
going
to
be
rough
for
a
while,
but
I
think
eventually,
you
know.
P
Sometimes
being
able
to
vent
actually
helps
people,
you
know
and
and
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
walked
out
of
here
tonight
and
they
feel
better
because
they
had
the
opportunity
to
do
that
as
sometimes
we're
going
to
have
to
be
a
punching
bag.
But
I
think
going
back.
Virtual
is
just
going
to
cause
us
to
lose.
The
faith
in
our
our
constituents
are
going
to
lose
faith
in
us
they're
going
to
think
okay.
Well,
they
came
back
in
person
and
when
the
going
got
tough,
they
went
back
to
the
to
the
virtual.
S
Thank
you,
I
I
agree
with
my
colleague,
councilmember
Griffin,
that
you
know
the
best
venue
is
for
the
council
to
be
in
person
in
a
place
where
the
public
is
free
to
come
as
safely
as
we
can
require
so
I.
But
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
watch
the
numbers
and
the
what's
happening
in
the
real
world
in
real
time
and
give
ourselves
the
opportunity
to
make
change.
If
all
of
a
sudden
we
know
we
can't
continue
to
keep
the
public
safe
in
particular,
but
by
meeting
in
person.
BZ
Yeah
I
I
like
having
the
options
there
so
having
options.
Okay,
because
this
thingy
things
evolved,
this
may
not
be
appropriate.
I
mean
right.
Now
we
have
one
council
member
sitting
here:
that's
not
even
obeying
the
rules
of
this
gym.
BZ
BZ
B
Ask
when
we
come
back
next
time
that
we
set
up
on
the
other
side
of
the
room,
though
so
the
fan
won't
be
right
in
our
ears,
but
any
further
council
member
Del
Chapo.
BL
B
All
right
anyone
else
so
we're
extending
two
ordinances
here
together,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye,
any
opposed
the
odds
have
or
any
opposed
hey.
Okay,
you
guys
have
it
so
next
up
is
a
consideration
of
additional
measures
which
would
be
a
mask
ordinance
that
was
presented
by
council
members,
saccharin,
Gregory
and
Jackson
and
I
think
our
counselor
would
like
to
make
some
remarks
about
that.
Wilbur.
CC
You
know
sorry
Mr
Mayor,
this
proposed
emergency
ordinance
would
be
essentially
a
codification.
If
you
will
of
the
resolution
that
was
considered
and
passed
at
the
special
meeting
a
few
weeks
ago,
a
month
or
so
ago,
and
as
I
think
everyone
is
aware,
this
emergency
ordinance
would
require,
would
mandate
the
wearing
of
of
face,
masks
or
face
coverings
in
government
buildings.
Now
the
wording
that
I
think
was
sent
to
council,
for
example,
the
title
of
the
ordinance.
CC
Concomitantly,
on
page
two
section
two
which
is
entitled
face
covering
or
mask
required
in
all
indoor
settings,
that
paragraph
would
be
recommendation
from
the
legal
department.
The
paragraph
would
be
the
use
of
a
face
covering
or
mask
is
required
by
every
person
within
the
boundaries
of
the
City
of
Charleston,
in
public
schools,
private
school
and
daycare
for
purposes
of
this
ordinance
person
shall
mean
anyone
over
the
age
of
13
and
any
children
ages
2
to
12,
regardless
of
vaccination
status.
CC
B
CC
CC
S
Then
might
I
ask,
would
government
buildings?
Would
the
public
libraries
fall
under
that
category.
B
B
A
motion
to
even
amend
the
agenda
so
that
we
can
entertain
the
ordinance
and
then
we
can
talk
about
it.
Okay,.
B
BG
X
B
P
CC
P
From
what
I
understand
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
the
previous
iteration
was
all
indoor
facilities
which
would
have
been
businesses
all
all,
and
now
it's
only
for
government
buildings,
which
I
believe
our
mayor's
already
executed
the
authority
to
require
face
coverings
in
government
buildings
already
and
we've
already
had
a
resolution
of
the
same
effect.
So
what
made
our
legal
department
decide
to
make
that
change
today?
Well,.
CC
Of
course,
the
resolution
is
was
an
encouragement,
obviously
not
the
same
as
an
ordinance,
but
the
the
idea
was
that
the
public
facilities
was
fairly
Broad
and
was
not
particularly
what
was
intended.
So
what
what?
What
is
happening
is
that
that
would
be
limited
that
phrase.
Removing
that
phraseology
would
limit
the
stretch
and
reach
that.
P
Explains
it
yeah
and
I
just
had
one
comment,
I'd
like
to
make
sure,
as
you
all
know,
I've
been
very
consistent
throughout
the
whole
pandemic.
We
should
not
mandate.
P
Yesterday,
I
made
a
poll
that
I
sent
out
to
all
my
neighborhood
associations
and
had
over
a
thousand
people
that
voted
within
a
few
hours
and
over
62
percent
supported
so
encouraging
mass
or
not
mass
at
all,
so
tonight,
I
will
be
staying
consistent
and
voting
to
allow
the
will
of
the
people
to
make
the
decision
for
what
is
right
for
them
their
families.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
I
talked
about
how
this
body
we
hate
the
overreach
of
state
government
whenever
they
infringe
on
home
rule
rights
of
a
municipality,
but
it
strikes
me
especially
with
Charleston
County
school
districts,
eight
to
one
vote
yesterday
that
by
us
passing
this
as
an
emergency
ordinance
tonight
that
we're
effectively
overruling
and
extending
our
mandate
into
areas
that
already
have
duly
elected
officials
that
can
make
that
decision.
So
as
an
example
we're
in
Berkeley
County
right
now,
the
Berkeley
County
school
district
has
dually
elected
officials
serving
on
their
school
board.
C
CA
C
BX
Z
As
popular
as
council,
member
Griffin
I
only
got
400
people
to
respond
to
mine
and
I
was
and
I
was
very,
very
shocked.
I
do
my
very
best
to
vote
in
alignment
with
what
the
majority
of
my
constituents
say.
It's
you
know
it
doesn't
matter
what
I
think
I
I
don't
rule.
My
district
I
represent
my
district
as
of
2
45
this
afternoon.
Z
374
people
did
not
want
a
mask
mandate
and
75
dead,
so
83.3
percent
do
not
want
to
mask
mandate
in
16.7
due
and
I
feel
as
though
I
would.
It
would
be
disrespectful
of
me
to
to
issue
a
mask
mandate.
Given
these
types
of
numbers,
especially
when
I
provided
a
comment
section
and
nearly
everyone
left
a
comment,
and
it
was
overwhelmingly.
Z
You
know.
Why
would
you
go
right
back
to
that
again
and,
and
that
gave
me
a
lot
of
pause
for
consideration
and
I.
Don't
I
agree,
I,
don't
think
we
can
tell
school
districts
what
to
do
any
more
than
we
would
want
them
coming
in
and
telling
us
what
to
do.
You
know
they
are
duly
elected
and
they
represent
people
just
like
we
do
and
need
to
make
decisions
that
are
in
line
with
their
constituencies.
Z
I
appreciated
the
meeting
that
we
had
last
week
where
we
were
encouraging
masks
to
be
worn
it
you
know
strongly
recommending
it
I
thought
that
was
perfectly
acceptable.
People
seem
to
be
very
happy
with
that
and
I,
don't
I,
guess
I'm
trying
to
figure
out,
but
now
we
want
to
say
mandate,
but
there's
no
penalty.
So
isn't
that
still
really
a
recommendation?
Z
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
splitting
hairs,
but
you
know
I
think
again,
we've
been
talking
this
evening
about
words.
Those
of
you
who
know
me
my
entire
career
is
words
I,
write
and
and
I
think
it's
the
word
mandate
people
are
getting
are
getting
stuck
on.
D
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
and
you
know
we're
dealing
with
not
only
a
rapidly
evolving
medical
and
scientific
challenge,
we're
also
dealing
with
a
rapidly
changing
and
evolving
legal
framework
in
this
state.
Over
this
issue.
Since
we've
been
up
here
today,
the
South
Carolina
Supreme
Court
unanimously
rejected
attorney
general
Alan
Wilson's
interpretation
over
the
Proviso
in
the
state
budget
dealing
with
masking
in
schools.
Since
we've
been
sitting
up
here
today,
the
College
of
Charleston
has
imposed
a
mass
mandate.
D
D
Doesn't
let's
respect
that
so
I
would
suggest
we
amend
our
ordinance
to
apply
only
to
schools
in
Charleston
County,
so
Charleston
County,
School
District.
Let's
let
Berkeley
County
do
its
own
thing:
we're
not
overstepping
the
Berkeley
County
School
District.
We
are
coming
to
the
aid
and
support
of
our
friends
and
colleagues
in
Charleston
County,
School
District,
who
overwhelmingly
support,
masks,
I,
had
an
unscientific
poll
on
my
Facebook
page
and
the
support
was
overwhelmingly
in
support
of
masks.
D
Okay,
I'm
looking
right
now
at
a
letter
signed
by
1378
pediatricians,
not
in
the
country,
not
in
the
world
in
South
Carolina,
supporting
masks.
We
need
to
come
to
the
aid
of
the
folks
that
want
to
impose
the
rules
as
they
see
fit
for
their
schools.
Charleston
County,
School
District,
the
overwhelming
majority
of
private
schools
in
Charleston,
have
imposed
Mass
mandates
of
Their
Own.
A
handful
of
schools
haven't
I
think
we
should
also
take
out
private
schools
from
the
ordinance.
Let
the
private
schools
do
what
they
want
to
do.
D
The
vast
majority
have
already
required
masks.
Let
them
make
the
decisions
for
their
schools.
So
if
it's
possible
I'd
like
to
make
a,
can
I
make
an
amendment
or
propose
an
amendment
to
the
motion
I'd
like
to
amend
the
motion
or
the
ordinance
on
the
table
to
eliminate
the
reference
to
private
schools
and
craft
some
language
to
say
our
ordinance
applies
only
to
the
school,
the
public
schools
and
the
jurisdiction
of
the
Charleston
County
School
District,
not
Berkeley,
County.
D
Let's
let
Berkeley
County
do
what
they
want
to
do,
and
I
think
that
charts
a
a
measured
path
forward
on
this
issue.
There's
going
to
be
further
legal
developments
on
this
issue,
the
Supreme
Court
is
probably
going
to
weigh
in
and
frankly
based
upon.
Some
of
the
things
I'm
hearing
and
what
I
was
seeing
on
the
way
in
here
today.
It's
not
entirely
clear.
The
Charleston
County
School
District
is
able
to
fully
Implement
what
they
wanted
to
do
last
night.
D
So
if
this
ordinance
provides
Aid
and
support
for
the
Charleston,
County,
School
District
I
think
it's
worth
passing
tonight.
But
let's
let
the
private
schools
do
what
they
want
to
do.
Let's
let
Berkeley
County
School
District
do
what
they
want
to
do:
I've
Got
Friends
on
the
Berkeley
County
School,
District,
board,
they're
good
people,
they've
got
a
different
District
than
Charleston,
and
my
whole
thing
is
about
let
the
schools
decide
for
themselves.
A
legislature
overstepped
by
trying
to
say
they
know
best
for
the
entire
state
in
Colombia.
D
B
CB
No
I
was
I
was
going
to
Second
it.
Thank
you.
Councilman
Jackson
can
I
make
a
few
comments.
Yes,
yeah
I'm,
going
to
support
the
vote
tonight
for
for
the
mass
mandate
and
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
the
debate
about
whether
masks,
work
or
not
and
I
feel
like
I'm
beating
a
dead
drum.
CB
What
I
will
say
is
the
path
we
are
headed:
Georgia,
11
schools,
closed,
Pickens,
County
schools
closed
with
an
open
in
nine
days,
so
whether
you
want
a
mask
or
not,
that
is
the
direction
we
potentially
headed.
So
guess
what
all
of
our
kids
are
going
to
be
unmasked
because
they're
going
to
be
home
with
us.
CB
B
F
F
I'll
ask
this
about
Council.
We
passed
an
ordinance
for
the
City
of
Charleston.
Can
we
pass
an
ordinance
that
applies
on
one
part
of
the
city?
It
doesn't
apply
in
another
part
of
the
city,
so
the
question
is
I.
Thought
audit
is
supposed
to
apply
from
one
end
of
the
city
to
the
other.
Yes,.
BI
F
CC
Know
the
as
I
understand
again
as
I
understand
the
motion,
the
motion.
The
amendment
has
to
do
with
the
schools
that
are
within
the
jurisdiction,
the
public
schools
within
the
jurisdiction
of
Berkeley
County,
but
the
the
motion,
the
ordinance
itself
would
apply
throughout
the
City
of
Charleston
EX,
including
those
parts
of
the
City
of
Charleston
that
may
fall
within
Berkeley
County.
Okay,
the
the
exclusion
will
be
the
schools
that
are
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
Berkeley
County
School
District.
That's
my
understanding
of
emotion,.
R
Seeking
so
I
have
a
question.
Procedurally,
we
had
to
have
a
vote
of
super
majority
to
get
to
vote
on
whether
or
not
to
take
undertake
the
motion.
Yes,
if
the
motion
fails
which
I'm
suspecting
it's
about
to,
can
we
then
have
council
member
Appel
make
a
motion
get
a
super
majority
vote
to
put
it
back
on
and
then
vote
on
his
amended
motion.
B
AV
R
Excludes
the
Berkeley
County
School
District,
which
has
said
they
don't
want
our
help,
I
mean
essentially
all
we're
doing,
is
lending
our
support
and
sort
of
having
the
back
back
of
the
Johnson
County
School
District
right
and,
as
was
pointed
out
as
we've
been
sitting
here
for
hours
tonight,
there's
been
a
ton
of
developments
out
there
that
essentially
make
this
emotion
of
support
rather
than
anything,
of
enforcement.
No
enforcement
mechanism
anyway,.
CA
R
By
the
way,
thank
you
for
the
1300
doctors
not
coming
here
tonight
to
speak
to
us.
That
was
awesome,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
can
pass
on
that,
because
council,
member
Gregory
won't
accept
the
amendment.
BM
R
BZ
BM
B
Right,
so
the
original
emotions
on
the
floor
requires
a
two-thirds
vote
to
pass
all
in
favor.
Please
say:
aye
aye.
Will
we
go
ahead
and
take
a
roll
call
vote?
I
was
just
seeing
how.
B
We're
we're
voting
on
emergency
ordinance
requiring
face
masks,
face
coverings
indoors
in
any
government
facility,
public
school,
private,
school
and
daycare
in
the
City
of
Charleston
that
include
both
Charleston
and
the
portion
of
Berkeley
County.
That's
the
City
of
Charleston,
okay,
Madam
clerk.
Please
give
us
a
roll
call
vote.
CB
W
D
D
And
I
would
just
maybe
add
one
quick
comment
that
you
know
the
city
of
Charlotte
I
mean
we
draw
lines
all
the
time
on
on
ordinances,
there's
no
rule
that
all
ordinances
have
to
have
city-wide
applicability.
I
mean
we
looked
at
a
mid
for
John's
Island.
Zoning
by
definition
only
applies
to
portions
of
the
city,
so
I
don't
see
any
there's
a
rational
basis
for
what
we're
doing
here,
namely
the
fact
that
Berkeley
County
School
District
doesn't
want
to
do
it
Etc,
so
I
think
we're
on
legal
ground.
D
R
B
Hold
that
thought
for
just
a
minute.
First,
let's
amend
the
agenda,
so
we
can
consider
the
motion.
AC
B
BO
BM
B
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
to
amend
the
agenda,
as
we
did
a
few
minutes
ago.
Is
there
a
second
all
in
favor
to
amend
the
agenda
again,
please
say:
aye
aye.
L
A
Now,
how
many
Nays
were
there
councilmember,
Griffin
and.
B
So
now
councilmember
Pell
I
know
we
all
been
holding
that
thought.
But
if
you
could
please
succinctly
restate
your
motion.
We'd
appreciate
I'm.
D
Going
to
focus
on
that
word
succinctly:
I
move
to
amend
the
ordinance
was
presented
to
us
this
evening
to
take
out
the
reference
to
private
schools
and
to
clarify
the
mask
ordinance
for
school.
For
public
schools
only
applies
to
the
public
schools
in
Charleston
County
School
District,
not
the
public
schools
in
Berkeley,
County,
School
District
and
leave
everything
else.
The.
Z
B
Z
If
would
it
be
cleaner
to
say,
rather
than
calling
out
school
districts
just
saying
those
school
districts
who
have
voted,
who
have
imposed
a
mask
mandate
again,
if
should
things
change
or
or
something
like
that?
Does
that
make
it
cleaner
and
easier
if
we
just
rather
than
specify
the
two
school
districts
I'm,
just
just
a
thought.
BY
Z
U
U
If
Charleston
County
lifts
their
band-
and
we
don't
have
a
meeting
for
a
couple
of
weeks-
then
we're
still
Banning
mass
and
I
I
see
that
as
a
problem,
if
they
decide
to
lift
their
Mass
ban
and
we've
still
got
something
in
the
City
of
Charleston,
we've
got
an
issue
and
I
I
just
think
we're
overstepping
our
bounds
on
here
I
mean
I.
Think
that
they
have
you
know
they
they've
got
the
mass
mandate.
They've
made
that
decision.
I
hear
you
saying
we
got
their
back,
but
we
may
have
more
than
their
back.
T
I'm
going
to
vote
against
this.
This
reason
we're
making
a
distinction
tonight
between
private
schools
and
public
schools
if
our
responsibility
is
Public
Safety
and
to
help
stem
this
tide
of
this
virus,
we're
making
a
determination
we're
putting
children
through
different
classes,
the
different
groups
now
either
we
come
across
completely
to
support
children
in
our
city,
regardless
of
what
county
they
live
in
regardless
they
are
a
private
school
or
public
school,
and
we
need
to
make
that
stand.
It's
just
that
really
interesting.
T
We're
going
to
carve
out
and
say
we're
half
a
city,
it's
councilman
wearing
his
point.
We're
half
a
city
rules
apply
for
citizen
of
the
City
of
Charleston
in
one
County,
but
not
the
other.
Rules
apply
for
a
student
who
goes
to
a
public
school,
but
not
a
private
school.
That's
just
not
fair
I'm
of
audience.
P
Councilmember
Griffin
and
honestly,
we
may
just
have
effectively
caused
Charleston
County
School
District
to
lose
a
bunch
of
students
who
are
now
going
to
try
to
enroll
in
private
schools,
so
they
don't
have
to
wear
it.
I
mean
I,
get
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
I
mean
obviously
I'm,
not
even
wearing
a
mask.
I
haven't
been.
BG
P
B
Indoor
requirement
for
government
buildings
and
Charleston
County
School
District,
but
not.
BM
D
I
I,
listen,
I,
hear
you
I,
think
all
kids
should
be
wearing
masks
in
all
schools
in
every
County
in
every
state
in
the
in
the
country.
Right,
that's
what
I
think
is
best
I'm
just
trying
to
do.
We
thread
the
needle,
so
we
can
pass
something
tonight
that
can
support
the
folks
at
the
Charleston
County
school
district
and
the
Charleston
County
parents
I
believe
overwhelmingly
want
this.
It's
a
different,
it's
a
different
deal
in
Charleston
County
than
it
is
in
Berkeley,
County
and
and
that's
test.
D
That's
that's
that's
demonstrated
by
the
fact
it
was
an
8-1
vote
last
night
I
just
implore,
my
colleagues,
let's
not
let
the
perfect,
be
the
enemy,
the
good.
Let's,
let's
give
some
Aid
and
support
to
our
school
district
Charleston
County,
School
District.
That
has
been
unfairly
threatened
by
our
state
legislature
to
the
extent
we
can
help
them.
I
think
it's
worth
doing
and.
Z
BR
A
BL
B
Fails
so
our
resolution
from
last
week
stands:
we
highly
recommend
that
our
citizens
wear
a
mask
inside
including
students
in
school,
and
we
highly
recommend
that
our
citizens
get
vaccinated
and
as
soon
as
the
vaccine
is
available
for
those
under
12
and
under
we
highly
recommend
that
they
receive
the
vaccine
as
well.
Our
resolution
from
last
week
still
is
in
effect.
Thank
you
very
much.
CB
Thank
you
mayor
just
some
quick
questions
for
our
chief.
If
he's
here,
if
anyone
from
our
Police
Department
is,
is
available,
anybody
anybody.
CB
Good
evening,
chief
good
evening,
just
I
had
some
general
questions
about
the
the
mobile
ordinance
since
we
passed
it
first
question:
is
you
know
in
your
estimation,
in
your
opinion,
why
the
change
that
we
made
and
then
what
what
outcome
or
what
positive
outcome
have
you
seen
with
that
change?.
CE
Sure
we've
seen
a
variety
of
problems
late
night,
in
particular
after
closing
from
one
two
three
four
five
in
the
morning,
large
numbers
of
people
that
did
not
leave
I'll
kind
of
just
nicely
say
kind
of
quoting
somebody
else.
The
party
was
never
ending
and
it
was
extending
Way
Beyond
what
it
should
have
we
looked
at
this.
CE
We
had
some
violent
incidents
where
we
had
people
shot
and
stabbed
and
some
other
things
we
looked
at
it
comprehensively
things
like
underage
drinking,
checking,
IDs
traffic
mitigation,
I,
I'd,
just
say:
extensive,
collaborative
problem,
solving
efforts,
parking
meters,
lighting
cameras,
training
and
working
with
different
establishments
occupancy
permit
enforcement,
a
lot
of
things,
one
of
them
with
the
support
of
the
council,
was
to
close
the
food
vendors
down
at
1
30
A.M
of
all
the
things
that
we've
done
and
I
just
say.
We've
done
at
least
20
things.
CE
CE
We've
done
a
lot,
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
a
lot
just
like
we
are
in
any
of
our
neighborhoods
that
are
experiencing
challenges.
It's
not
only
in
King
Street,
but
we're
focused
our
efforts,
but
there
are
things
that
we
can
do
that
are
kind
of
force
multipliers,
and
that
was
one
of
them
and
it's
been
very
effective.
CB
A
couple
follow-up
questions,
all
right:
Council,
council,
member
Sacramento,
so
I
understand
that
Chief
and
and
I
and
I
applaud
and
know
that
there's
been
improvements
made
Can.
Anyone
talk
to
about
the
inconsistencies
of
the
closing
times,
I've
heard
from
several
of
those
vendors
that
other
restaurants
change
their
hours
and
are
and
remained
open
serving
those
same
patrons.
So
basically
just
shifting
patrons
from
one
part
of
the
you
know
Street
to
the
other.
So
can
anyone
confirm
that
or
let
us
let
us
know
if
that's
the
case,
yeah.
CE
Absolutely
I
can
tell
you,
there's
there's
people
that
weren't
happy
about
that,
and
and
I've
heard
it
myself
at
the
last
council
meeting
and
people
tend
to
want
to
tell
on
each
other
and
all
kinds
of
things,
but
that's
the
first
time
here
that
I
can
tell
you.
We
had
a
lot
of
issues
with
previous
to
these
efforts.
CE
Occupancy
permits
being
exceeded
things
like
underage
drinking
people,
ignoring
the
noise
ordinance
business
is
not
closing
when
they
were
supposed
to
almost
making
up
their
own
hours.
We've
paid
very
close
attention
to
that.
If
there's
a
violation,
I
can
tell
you
we're
trying
to
be
consistent
as
possible
to
be
assertive
as
possible.
CE
We've
been
making
more
criminal
arrests,
we've
given
more
citations
and
and
we've
done
significant
investigations
for
things
like
drug
dealing
and
a
whole
variety
of
other
things
that
we're
contributing
to
this
problem
intervention
with
gang
members.
The
list
goes
on,
there's
a
lot
of
things
and
and
if
there's
a
specific
establishment
that
is
violating
their
requirements,
I
would
love
to
know
about
it
and
I
promise
you
we
will
be
assertive
in
being
consistent.
We
don't
play
favorites
and
at
least
I'll
commit
that
I
won't
play
favorites.
C
Yeah
thanks
Steve,
so
on
August
7
I
had
gone
downtown
at
the
request
of
some
of
the
vendors
that
I
had
talked
to,
and
you
know
observe
similar
things
that
that
councilmember
Sacrament
talked
about
where
the
brick
and
mortar
businesses
have
adjusted
hours
to
take
over
a
lot
of
the
demand
and
I
saw
the
crowds
on
the
sidewalks
and
the
you
know
cues
in
the
line
to
get
food.
So
my
question
is
I.
C
CE
I
would
agree
and
you're
asking
me
so
I'll
answer
from
my
perspective
that
all
of
them
should
close
Benny's
pizzas,
one
of
a
couple
that
I
think
you're
referencing,
there's
a
Chinese
restaurant
as
well,
where
the
line
they're
breaking
more
I
will
tell
you
it's
been
discussed,
I
think
there's
an
appetite
for
that.
CE
I
would
just
say
publicly
that
from
a
legal
perspective,
it's
there's
more
to
that.
It's
not
as
like
everything
else.
It's
incremental
we're
on
a
Continuum
we're
trying
to
be
reasonable,
I.
Think,
as
we
address
these
issues,
we
haven't
gone
with
the
sledgehammer
we
haven't.
We
listened
I
think
last
time,
there's
a
lot
of
good
input
and,
and
the
council
adjusted
some
of
the
decisions
based
on
input
from
the
businesses
and
I.
CE
Think
that's
going
to
be
a
little
more
difficult
is
what
I'm
told
based
on
the
zoning
and
the
way
the
the
the
brick
and
mortar
businesses
are,
are
given
their
licenses
and
and
that
that's
a
completely
different
kind
of
discussion,
but
I
think
there's
an
appetite
for
fairness
and
consistency
to
make
that
happen.
Well,.
C
Yeah
and
that-
and
that
was
just
my
concern-
is
that
they
all
pay
a
business
license
yet
we're
picking
Which
business
models
we
like
or
don't
like,
and
so
the
amending
the
late
night
ordinance
to
make
it
so
that
you
know
last
call
for
alcohol
is
at
1.
30
and
everything's
got
to
shut
down
by
two,
and
then
we
can
clear
the
central
business
district.
It
seems
like
the
more
the
approach
that
doesn't
play.
Favorites.
G
This
time
May
so
councilman,
that
is
exactly
what
the
the
group
that
is,
the
staff
group
that's
working
on
the
late
night
ordinance
is
looking
at,
is
to
take
conversations
that
have
been
had.
What
can
we
do
on
King
Street
period
to
to
to
make
that
situation
better,
I'm,
following
through
and
following
up
on
some
of
the
stuff
that
has
been
done
and
has
worked
as
the
chief
mentioned,
but
then
also
talking
about?
When
do
those
businesses
close
creating
that
Level
Playing
Field?
G
If
you
would
that
I
think
there
is
some
conversations
about
because
again,
if
you
don't
serve
alcohol,
you
don't
have
you
don't
have
that
closure
time,
the
it's
the
late
night,
operators
that
have
an
alcohol
component,
they
have
to
close
by
a
certain
time.
But
if
you're
a
brick
and
mortar-
and
you
don't
have
an
alcohol
component,
you
don't
have
a
buys
the
code
requirement
to
close
at
a
particular
hour.
So
for.
P
When
are
we
expecting
to
have
those
records
just
because
the
Mobile
Food
vendors?
They
still
call
me
all
the
time
and
they
want
to
know
why
there's
still
vendors
that
are
serving
food
until
four
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
they
had
to
shut
down
at
1
30
and
then
1
30
to
2.
30
was
their
big
hour
and
you
know
the
sooner
we
can
get
on
that
Level,
Playing,
Field,
I
think
better.
G
We
have
a
meeting
scheduled
I
believe
it's
next
week,
if
not
it's
the
week
after,
but
we
we
are
moving
on
it,
we're
hoping
to
have
something
drafted
on
The
Late,
Night,
ordinance
that
we
can
start
passing
around
and
get
some
comments
on.
B
B
We
have
made
it
to
page
five
and
don't
worry
it's
only
a
few
hundred
pages
to
go.
No,
so
first
up
is
our
Joint
Committee
on
Public
Safety
and
special
facilities
council
member
shade.
Thank.
T
You
mayor
of
the
there,
was
a
joint
Public,
Safety
and
special
facilities
committee
meeting.
You
know.
Yesterday,
at
one
o'clock
we
went
out
of
order
a
little
bit
and
went
to
Executive
session
to
have
a
discussion
regarding
security,
personnel
and
devices
that
mainly
no
action
was
taken
on
that,
but
it
was
a
very
good
discussion
that
we
had
regarding
security
issues
for
city,
council
chambers
and
other
facilities.
T
Hopefully
we'll
come
back
to
council
with
a
report
concerning
that
will
become
more
definitive
as
to
item
number
two
is
approval
to
submitting
Grant
application
for
purchasing
trauma-informed
training
equipment
for
CPD,
community,
centers
and
case
management
software.
We
received
the
report
as
to
how
this
is
going
to
impact
a
sort
of
a
psychological
trauma
for
First,
Responders
and
others,
and
it
was
a
grant
for
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
and
that
was
approved
unanimously.
T
I
think
we've
already
would
have
done
that
with
Ways
and
Means
items.
Three
four:
five
and
six
were
all
renewals
or
entering
into
new
memorandum
of
understanding
between
the
Charleston
Police
Department.
T
And
what
like
number
three
was
a
Drug
Enforcement
Administration
number
five
was
with
I'm.
Sorry,
let
me
back
up
I've
got
out
of
other
source
number
three,
just
stress
with
confirming
an
mou
with
DEA
on
their
task
force
that
was
approved
unanimously.
Number
four
was
approval
of
renewed
memorandum
of
understanding
regarding
sros
and
srts
for
the
upcoming
2021-22
school
year,
we
increased
a
number
of
officers
to
18.
T
number.
Five
was
an
approval
for
a
memorandum
understanding
between
the
city
and
the
use
of
the
TD
arena
in
the
Johnson
Recreation
Center,
for
emergency
events
to
be
used
for
staging
and
for
other
emergency
events,
knowing
that
the
limitations
on
that
would
not
qualify
for
certain
type
of
storms.
Item
six
was
a
memorandum
of
understanding
between
CPD
and
the
ATF
on
relating
to
Firearms
trafficking
and
violent
crime.
All
of
those
were
approved
unanimous.
B
BG
F
J
B
BM
B
BZ
B
Amendment
please
note
that
I
was
recused
on
the
first
part,
first
item
on
the
real
estate
committee
and.
B
Failed
to
pass
any
questions
or
comments,
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
Now
we
have
bills
up
for
the
second
reading,
one
through
twelve.
B
Five
and
six,
we
have
a
a
request
for
deferral,
so
you
could
take
items
one
through
five
and
then
items.
Let's
see
if
I
got
that
right.
One.
B
B
A
round
of
section
of
those
same
items,
a
motion
and
a
second
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
Now
we
have
a
couple
bills
up.
First
reading
we
got
a
motion
to
approve
number
one,
which
is
the
ordinance
related
to
cemeteries,
to
add
certain
Provisions
for
grave
site
protection
and
to
provide
for
penalties.
You
got
a
motion
and
a
second
second:
do
we
have
any
discussion
or
questions
about
that
hearing.
None.
Oh
council,
member,
Del,
Chapo.
Z
Would
y'all
mind
indulging
me
please,
I,
just
I
want
to
thank
City
staff.
There's
been
a
lot
of
work
done
on
this.
The
preservation
Society
of
Charleston
Coastal
conservation,
League
grant
me
show
who
many
of
us
know,
and
especially
my
residents,
who
made
me
aware
of
how
profound
this
issue
is
of
development
of
burials
being
threatened
by
development
and
renovation
and
I've
learned
so
much
through
this
process
and
I
just
can't
emphasize
how
important
it
is,
and
I
know
that
through
various
discussions,
something
that
maybe
this
hasn't
gone
far
enough.
Z
But
what
I
want
to
emphasize
is
this
is
kind
of
our
first
step
in
a
longer
term
strategy
with
my
goal
and
that
of
some
others
that
will
eventually
have
mapping
and
an
inventory.
Z
So
we
can
better
help
guide
development
and
renovation
in
a
way.
That's
much
more,
respectful
and
I
know.
Personally.
I
am
committed
to
keeping
this
work
moving
forward
because
it's
become
just
that
important
to
me
and
so
near
and
dear
I.
Think
the
biggest
thing
is
those
folks
resting
here
deserve
respect
their
families
deserve
respect,
and
it's
no
secret
that
this
disproportionately
affects
african-americ
African-American,
burial
sites
and
Grant.
Z
Micho
said
something
to
me
that
was
very
profound
and
I've
been
probably
gonna
botch
it,
but
he
said
these
people
were
enslaved
in
life
and
now
they're
enslaved
in
death,
because
they're
constantly
under
threat
of
being
bulldozed,
which
is
just
absolutely
devastating.
None
of
us
would
want
that
to
happen
to
our
families
and
there's
no
way
under
my
watch.
It's
going
to
happen
to
somebody
else's
family.
Z
These
people
should
be
able
to
enjoy
where
they're
resting
and
enjoy
their
families
coming
to
visit
them.
So
I
appreciate
folks
support
on
this
tonight
and
especially
support
as
we
move
forward
and
see
some
other
things
in
the
city
that
we
can
do
to
help
continue
to
protect
these
precious
sites.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
Dale
shopo,
and
thank
you
for
your
leadership
on
this
issue.
Appreciate
that
any
other
comments
or
questions
for
number
one
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
Posey
odds
have
it
before
we
go
to
number
two
Madam
clerk
asked
me
to.
Please
ask
you
to
officially
defer
items
five
and
six
that
was
up
for
second
reading.
O
W
D
Mr
Mayor,
yeah
I
would
respectfully
request.
We
amend
the
motion
to
defer
this
matter.
You
know
Mr
Elmore
from
the
Animal
Society
extremely
well
respected
organization
reached
out
to
me
and
said
he
understood
what
kind
of
meeting
we
were
going
to
have
tonight.
They
can
mobilize
half
a
hundred
people
in
a
heartbeat.
He
refrained
from
doing
that
as
a
courtesy
to
us
and
respectfully
requested.
We
defer
this
item,
so
it
could
be
more.
D
You
know
fully
considered,
perhaps
a
bit
less.
You
know
involved
meeting
so
I
think
I
think
that's
a
reasonable
request
and
I
I
think
we
should
defer
this
matter.
Thank
you.
B
O
Mayor
I
might
support
this,
but
something
every.
J
O
O
I
I
know
they
they're
not
going
to
let
those
baskets
because
that's
their
money
and
I
meant
I
last
I
think
what
three
years
ago
it
took
me
around
to
all
the
farms
on
John's
Island,
where
the
Huskies
mistake
and
as
you
should
see
the
way
they
keep
those
houses
well
care
better
than
sometime
when
I
live
you
know,
and
so
they're
not
gonna.
You
know
let
the
sauce
run
a
while
I
heard
those
houses,
because
that's
the
money
maker
and
every
year
we
have
this
problem.
They
bring
up.
O
Somebody
come
up
and
say:
oh
they
need
to
do
this.
We
need
to
do
that
or
you
don't
think
the
boss
is
too
hot
outside,
but
they're
not
gonna
abuse
these
animals,
like
that
you
know
so
I,
don't
know
what's
going
on,
but
I
might
support
the
referral
this
time,
but
I
hope
you
don't
come
back
again
like
this
next
year.
If
I'm
here.
B
Well,
well,
thank
you
for
that
comment.
In
fact,
you
know
a
whole.
B
Of
our
whole
ordinance
was
brought
forward
a
little
over
a
year
ago
and
what
we
have
tonight
as
a
result
of
a
a
long
series
of
meetings
of
subcommittees
and
the
commission,
so
it's
been
scrutinized
pretty
pretty
thoroughly,
but
the
motion
is
to
defer.
So
if
you
don't
want
to
take
the
matter
up
tonight,
we'll
defer,
if
you
would
like
to
I'm,
going
to
vote
against
a
deferral
myself,
I
just
assume
deal
with
it
myself
and
and
resolve
it.
B
But
motion
on
floor
defer
any
further
comments
or
questions
on
the
motion.
All
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
yeah
any
opposed.
BM
BM
BM
BZ
CA
B
A
B
Motion
fails,
so
we
will
consider
the
matter.
Let's
ask
Dan
riccio
who's
had
the
livability
tourism
management
to
give
us
a
report
on
the
changes
that
are
envisioned
here
and.
CA
I'll
be
brief,
and
thank
you
just
to
indulge
everyone
over
a
year
of
work
went
into
this
with
staff
communication.
What
built
the
animal
society
and
their
attorney
for
an
entire
year
and
also
The
Advocates
are
correction.
The
carriage
industry,
The
Advocates,
proposed
an
ordinance
that
in
in
our
mind,
needed
further
vetting.
It
was
a
wish
list
that
they
had
wanted
to
be
viewed
by
city
council.
CA
We
respectfully
reviewed
the
entire
ordinance
and
12
pages
of
them
and,
along
with
Mallory
shear
and
five
staff
members
during
covert
and
for
several
months,
worked
on
the
ordinance
to
where
you
see
it
today,
just
to
include
emergency
procedures,
equipment
safety
equipment
not
only
for
the
carriage
but
for
the
animal
themselves
and
training
mandatory
training
requirements
by
The
Carriage
drivers
that
is
conducted
by
the
industry
themselves
and
present
it
to
the
city
upon
request.
So
with
that
said,
it
was
vetted
because
it
was
so
comprehensive.
CA
It
was
vetted
through
three
different
committees.
Over
a
three-day
period
then
went
to
full
commission.
It
was
voted
negatively
on
most
of
them
and
reworked
to
what
you
have
today.
CA
Both
sides
have
the
opportunity
for
the
last
four
months
of
this
process
to
get
it
down
to
where
we
are
today,
and
what
I'm
trying
to
explain
to
you
is
that
you
can't
beat
a
dead
horse.
I
guess
this
is
this
is
as
far
as
it
goes.
We
can't
make
any
more
changes.
CA
The
industry
agrees
and
I've
had
no
comments
other
than
what
Mr.
What's
his
name
came
here
tonight
and
wanted
to
defer
it.
So
with
that
said,
I
would
appreciate
passage
again.
N
Z
It
would
like,
when
this
comes
back
for
second
reading,
if
it
passes
first
reading
tonight
that
I
would
like
to
I
guess,
amend
the
motion
that
we
include
in
here
that
the
director
of
livability
is
to
report
out
to
the
tourism
commission
anytime,
that
a
closure
does
need
to
be
issued
for
the
carriages.
I
think
this
is
just
a
good
system
of
checks
and
balances
and
helps
everyone
on
all
sides.
Better
understand.
What's
going
on
and
to
have
that
on
record-
and
you
know,
Dan
has
said,
he's
more
than
willing
to
do
that.
Z
But
if
we
don't
have
the
benefit
of
Dan
forever,
I
would
like
to
make
sure
this
lives
on
I'd.
CA
Z
Yeah
make
it
now.
Second,.
B
A
AC
A
B
B
I
think
you
made
the
motion
to
approve
prior
to
our
discussion
about
the
deferral,
so
in
fact,
council
member
Griffin,
I
and
I
forgot
too.
There
was
already
motion
on
the
floor.
We
did.
We
didn't
need
another
one,
so
we
have
an
amended
motion
now.
This
is
just
first
reading,
so
council,
member
Pell,
Mr
Elmore,
is
welcome
to
still
Advocate
and
come
back
for
further
amendments.
It
says
exclude
him
from
being
able
to
do
that.
I
want
to
make
that
clear
all
right.
B
Any
further
discussion,
all
in
favor
of
the
amended
motion
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it.
The
next
regular
city
council
meeting
will
be
Tuesday,
September,
14
2021..
We
know
we're
not
meeting
at
city
council
chambers,
but
we
will
have
to
advise
you
on
where
we
will
be
meeting,
because
we
hadn't
determined
that
yet
but
we'll
let
you
know
soon.
Thank
you.
Everybody
for
your
patience.