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City of Charleston Committee on Community Development 10/20/2022
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B
We
do
not
have
anyone
signed
up
to
speak,
but
we
do
have
two
comments
that
were
sent
in
in
advance.
Dana
cabbage
said
asked
to
please
keep
downtown
residential.
The
flooding
downtown
has
only
gotten
worse
with
all
the
development
there's
no
water,
there's
nowhere
for
the
water
to
go
over
development
is
literally
damaging
my
home
downtown.
B
If
you
don't
allow
rezoning,
it
is
a
step
forward
and
caring
about
the
actual
residence
of
Downtown
Charleston
developers
do
not
need
more
money
and
we
do
not
need
more
people,
cars
or
traffic
downtown
and
then
Annabelle
France
said.
Please
stop
tearing
down
Charleston's
charm
and
replacing
it
with
building
after
building,
and
those
are
all
the
comments
that
we
received
all
right.
A
A
It
was
moving
second,
all
in
paper
book
by
saying
aye
aye,
we'll
move
right
on
down
to
Old
business
with
number
c.
The
first
number
on
the
oil
business
is
the
owners
to
a
Man
chapter:
seven,
article
four
of
housing
code
of
the
City
of
Charleston,
South
Carolina,
to
add
a
new
division
for
implementing
a
pilot
program
equipped
requiring
the
registration
of
residential
rental
units.
E
Good
afternoon
I'll
be
presenting
on
that
one
as
as
requested,
this
is
a
very
paired
down
version
of
the
prior
final
registry,
ordinance
that
went
to
council.
The
pilot
program
will
be
initiated
in
the
Canon
Borough
Elliott
neighborhood.
There
is
no
rental
permit
component
with
this.
In
addition,
there
are
no
property
inspections,
Associated
it'll,
be
a
simple
registration
for
all
rental
units
and
the
application
requires
an
emergency
contact
as
well
as
a
responsible
local
representative
which
either
lives
or
Works
within
a
30
mile
radius.
E
Unless
the
landlord
Falls
within
that
vicinity,
the
enforcement
component
would
be
a
summons
to
the
livability
court
if
a
rental
unit
that
should
be
registered
is
not.
And
finally,
the
landlord
responsible,
local
representative,
tenant
and
occupants
of
the
rental
unit
are
subject
to
other
violations
of
city
code
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
that
there
might
be
about
the
revised
draft.
Thank.
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F
F
E
F
D
F
E
There
there
is
no
permit
and
so
the
idea
is
you
either
register
or
you
don't
and
if
you're
not
registered,
then
you
get
a
summons
two
livability
court.
If
you're
registered,
then
we
have
the
various
contact,
information
required
and
you're
subject
to
code
violations
and
you're
easier
to
find
so
if
you're
not
registered,
then
then
you'd
get
a
summons
no.
E
E
C
D
C
A
A
G
H
A
I
spoke
with
Marion
too
quite
a
few
times,
and
he
was
really
satisfied
with
getting
the
registration
done
immediately,
and
this
is
one
thing
they
want
to
start.
This
start
was
something
even
if
we
have
to
come
back
and
do
some
amendments
to
it,
but
get
the
registration
done
ASAP.
So
this
is
one
thing
they
were
looking
forward
to.
So
that's
why
a
lot
of
these
other
things
was
removed.
Mr
Mayor,
so.
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C
F
F
A
Second,
okay,
we're
moving,
second,
that
we
move
forward
with
the
registration,
rail
registration.
The
amendments
all
in
favor,
both
by
saying
aye
aye,
opposes
proposes
the
eyes.
Have
it
they're
going
to
move
forward
with
the
rental
registration
and
the
changes
are
the
amendments
that's
going
to
be
taking
place
and
that
would
be
coming
back
to
us.
So
this
will,
let
us
know
exactly
what
it
is
that
has
already
been
approved,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
when
it
comes
back
to
council
when
people
don't
want
that.
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A
D
A
H
H
A
H
E
J
J
J
J
They
asked
for
respectfully,
but
that
you
know
this
certainly
wasn't
something
that
that
my
district
wanted
to
see,
implemented
and
I,
understand,
I,
see
the
language
and
that's
why
I
voted
yesterday.
But
if
the,
if
the
you
know
having
this
ordinance
in
place,
certainly
gives
the
city
a
broader
scope,
you
know
you
know
just
to
easily
start
adding
additional
areas,
and
that
is
your
hope.
Mr
riccio.
H
H
In
my,
in
my
view,
it
would
be
probably
challenged
if
we
were
selective
and
only
do
unless
you
all
voted
differently
to
keep
it
in
a
geographic
area.
That's
that's
contained
to
a
certain
part
of
the
city,
but
that's
that's
the
lead.
That's
magaly
she's,
the
legal
advice
of
it,
but
yeah
I
think
legally.
A
Yeah,
because
councilman
Parker,
we
try
to
do
that.
One
time
on
Council
and
have
a
certain
area
in
the
Justice
Department
came
after
us
and
said
we
can't
do
it
if
we're
going
to
do
something,
we're
gonna
have
to
do
it
Citywide,
so
I
think
with
the
pilot
program.
You
start
with
a
pilot
program,
but
it
ends
up.
If
we're
going
to
continue
with
it,
it's
going
to
has
to
be
Citywide,
then
let's
feel
good
in
trouble.
Okay,.
J
No
I
I
understand
that.
That's
why
yeah
a
question
but
I
may
I
may
have
to
respectfully
just
change
my
vote
to
an
a
I.
Don't
want
to
see
this
city-wide
but
I
understood
and
understood
the
concerns
you
know
in
in
the
folks
that
asked
for
this,
but
I
just
may
have
to
change
my
vote
to
Renee
if
possible.
Okay,.
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G
Thank
you,
chair,
councilman
Parker.
If
you
could
just
articulate
what
what
are
what
did
you
hear
in
your
neck
of
the
woods?
Was
it
just
homeowners,
so
I
guess
my
question
initially
is
this
is
for
for
folks
that
are
renting
out
properties
correct
right,
so
this
is
not
for
primary
homeowners.
This
is
for
homeowners
that
have
investment
properties
and
CM
and
councilman
Parker
that
that's
what
you
heard
in
your
neck
of
the
woods,
even
even
for
rental
properties,
folks,
did
not
want
to
have
registration.
J
Right,
correct
I
mean
I
I've
I've.
Besides
most
of
the
things
that
I
point
out,
I've
heard
nothing
to
this
sort.
No
one
wants
the
city,
you
know
I
mean
we
already
have
a
short-term
rental.
We
have
certain
short-term
rental
jurisdictions
fictional
things,
but
but
this
is
just
adding
another
layer
that
I
I
don't
think
my
constituents
want.
You
know
so.
I.
I
Yeah
Mr
Jim:
let's
follow
up
when
this
thing
should
this
thing
go
city-wide
I
understand
the
pilot
program
comes
back
before
Council
I
got
to
be
frank,
I
wasn't
thinking
about
this
being
applied
to
the
whole
city,
I
mean
right
now.
If,
anyway,
I
have
a
piece
of
rental
property
right
now,
I
I
just
get
with
a
real
tune.
You
know
we
get
tenants
and
we
rent
it
out.
How
would
that
process
change?
If,
This
Were
to
go
city-wide.
E
I
H
You
own
two
or
more
rental
properties.
The
reason
for
it
is
to
be
able
to
to
reach
out
to
someone
in
a
timely
manner.
That's
that's.
The
whole
point
of
this
ordinance
is
yes,
it
primarily
deals
with
absentee
landlords,
and
the
bulk
of
the
absentee
landlords
seem
to
be
more
in
the
peninsula,
where
the
college
around
the
college
areas.
H
I
can
honestly
tell
you
that
we
have
much
less
problems
of
notifying
owners,
West,
Ashley,
James,
Island
and
John's
Island.
Don't
know
why?
Maybe
it's
because
of
that
that
there's
more
properties
owned
by
absentee
landlords
downtown
but
historically
it
is
the
downtown
area
that
we
have
a
problem
reaching
out
to
people
and
finding
them
more
so
than
other
parts
of
the
entire
city.
I.
C
E
I
would
be
concerned
about
that
mayor.
The
the
way
that
the
short-term
rental
is
is
drafted.
It
is
Citywide,
but
the
the
zones
are
specific
to
different
categories
of
permits,
certain
requirements
for
each
type
of
property
in
terms
of
parking
and
how
old
the
building
is,
and
that
kind
of
thing-
and
this
is
just
you-
know-
a
simple
registration
form
so
as
a
as
a
dis,
there
wouldn't
be
any
basis
to
distinguish
between
zones.
I
Okay,
I
gotta,
I
gotta,
be
frank,
Mr
chairman,
under
that
guy
I'm,
for
help
in
the
situation
with
students
and
getting
out
of
line
I,
don't
want
to
see
this
apply
to
the
entire
city,
so
I
think
maybe
I'll
legally
go
back.
We
got
certain
things
that
apply
ordinances.
That
applies
in
the
historic
district.
It
doesn't
apply
in
any
other
area
in
the
city
itself
and
so
I.
H
H
H
That,
and
you
know,
any
input
and
changes
could
be
made
within
that
six
months,
so
I'm
I'm
asking
if
we
can
at
least
get
this
going,
and
you
know
we'll
have
a
test
period
of
that
six
months
and
if
there's
legally
can
be
done
with
the
zones
and
and
centralizing
it
to
the
downtown
area
which
I
I
agree
with
magaly.
It
seems
problematic
if
you
don't
include
everyone
but
I'm
sure
zoning
wise.
We
might
be
able
to.
A
A
J
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
thank
you,
Mr
Gregory,
again,
I
I
completely
understand
the
impact
you
know
having
it.
You
know
just
I
mean
that
these
were
my
questions
in
city
council
I
mean
we're
just
focusing
on
one
area,
I
totally
understand
from
a
legal
standpoint.
How
that
could
be
problematic,
but
again
could
be
my
mistake,
but
the
way
that
I
understood
it.
You
know
this
was
a
pilot
program
for
this
area,
but
now
hearing
that
it
it
is
it's
planned
to
go
City.
J
You
know
wanted
to
clarify
that
I
understand
why
you
can't
Maybe
single
out
a
specific
area
but,
and
just
real
quick
I
mean.
Can
you
give
me
numbers
because
again,
this
is
something
if
this
is
something
you
want
to
take
city-wide
I
mean
how
many
residential
units
are
you
considering
our
you
know,
sort
of
a
nuisance
I
mean
we
sort
of
went
through
this
recently
with
the
King
Street
I
apologize,
the
business,
the
late
night
business
ordinance
right.
J
You
know
we
changing
that
ordinance
to
kind
of
weed
out
the
bad
apples
per
se
right.
So
in
this
case,
are
you
you're
kind
of
looking
for
those
those
landlords
that
you
can't
find
I
mean
what
kind
of
what
kind
of
numbers
are
we
talking,
especially
when
we're
talking
about
making
creating
an
ordinance
for
the
entire,
possibly
for
the
entire
city.
H
Well,
there
we
had
numbers
for
the
the
amount
of
rentals
which
I
believe
caps
around
7
000
Citywide,
it's
hard
to
put
a
number
I
can
get
the
numbers
for
you,
but
I
can
tell
you
it's
quite
a
few
of
investment
properties,
primarily
on
the
peninsula,
that
are
rental
properties
enlisted
under
the
llc's.
Those
are
the
ones
we
chase
our
tails
with
on
a
constant
basis,
because
we
can't
find
anybody
if
I
had
to
throw
a
number
on
there.
H
I'd
have
to
say
at
least
over
a
hundred,
maybe
more
that
that
are
just
make
it
difficult
to
find
I'm
not
saying
everyone
doesn't
comply,
obviously,
but
with
the
you
got
to
realize,
there's
so
much
turnover
with
these.
These
rentals
downtown
versus
other
parts
of
the
city
that
that
it
is
an
issue
with
they're
changing
their
management
companies
constantly
they're
changing
their
llc's
constantly.
So
that's
the
difficulty
of
it.
I
I
can
get
you
numbers,
but
I
don't
have
them
right
now.
J
J
D
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F
L
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
Mr
Mayor
and
I.
Think
councilman
Gregory
just
hit
onto
something
very
important
here.
You
know,
with
local
governments,
pass
ordinances
courts
review
what
we
do
based
on
the
rational
basis
tests
most
often,
unless
we're
dealing
with
suspect
classes
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
so,
if
there's
any
rational
basis,
we
can
point
to
to
justify
the
line
drawing
for
the
categories
or
the
distinctions
that
we're
making
in
an
ordinance,
it's
typically
going
to
hold
water.
L
Form
any
legal
entity
in
South
Carolina,
the
state
of
South
Carolina,
requires
you
to
designate
a
registered
agent
and
it's
public
and
you
can
go
onto
the
South
Carolina
Secretary
of
State's
website
and
the
registered
agent
information
is
there.
This
registration
program
to
me
doesn't
seem
like
it's
that
far
removed
from
it,
and
so,
when
you
talk
about
you
know
whether
this
is
an
onerous
sort
of
requirement
to
impose
on
people.
It's
definitely
paperwork,
it's
definitely
an
application.
L
We're
definitely
gonna
need
to
get
the
word
out,
but
this
is
not
the
original
rental
registry
framework
that
was
originally
proposed
to
council,
where
it
was
property
inspections
and
all
of
these
other
kinds
of
things.
This
is
just
a
form
to
let
the
city
know
who's
out
there,
who's
responsible.
It's
it's
much
more
minimal,
so
I
think
that
you
know
they
can
be
structured
in
a
way
that
draws
lines
just
around
the
peninsula,
but
at
the
same
time,
I
think
that
this
is
something
that's,
maybe
not
all.
L
H
The
the
I
can
tell
you
the
difficulty
and
he's
absolutely
right.
They
have
to
have
a
registered
agent
99
times
out
of
a
hundred
in
our
experience,
we're
still
getting
the
run
around
when
we
go
to
the
registered
agent,
because
they're
normally
the
attorney
that
that
forms
the
LLC
for
that
person
so
and
they
are
reluctant
to
put
us
in
touch
with
the
client
every
time
we
try
to
get
that
person
through
the
registered
agent.
So
this
will
bypass
that
problem
as
well.
But
you
are
correct.
They
do.
D
C
Looking
at
the
website
right
now
and
I've
done
this
before
and
my
memory
got
job,
but
they
don't
give
you
a
phone
number
or
email
address.
They
just
give
you
a
mailing
address,
and
so
you
got
to
write
them
a
registered
letter
and
wait
if
we
got
a
issue
with
trying
to
deal
with
with
a
immediate
in
nature,
you
know
it'd
really
be
helpful
to
be
directly
contact
someone
right
away,
rather
than
send
them
a
pizza,
certified
mail.
L
L
F
I
So,
under
this
example,
the
person
registers
the
property
and
puts
the
attorney
down
as
the
point
of
contact.
Let's
say
they
do
the
same,
put
the
same
agent
down
that
they
do
in
the
LLC.
How
does
this?
How
does
our
process
get
Beyond
a
property
owner
having
his
or
her
attorney
listed
as
the
person
of
contact
richly
the.
E
Application
form
requires
a
phone
number
as
well
as
an
emergency
contact,
and
unless
the
landlord
lives
or
Works
within
30
miles,
then
they
need
a
local
responsible
representative.
So
if
that
person
that
they've
designated
to
be
their
agent
does
not
fall
within
that
30
mile
radius,
then
they
would
need
to
find
somebody
else
so
that
the
the
main
distinction
is
the
location,
the
proximity
proximity
rather
requirement
and
the
emergency
contact
and
phone
contact.
So.
I
H
Like
the
mayor
just
said
that
there's
no
emergency
number
for
us
to
contact
there
is
an
address,
but
I
I
haven't
I,
have
no
offense
to
any
attorneys,
but
I
haven't
found
one.
Yet
that
will
provide
us
with
the
information
and
if
we
don't
have
the
tool
for
that,
we're
still
going
to
hit
roadblocks.
If,
if
we
we
have
to
go
through
that
registered
agent,
because.
D
I
I
Is
you
probably
have
some
success,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
somebody's
having
a
wild
and
crazy
quality
and
breaking
the
law,
our
law
enforcement
going
after
the
spring,
that's
what's
called
quality.
It's
not
called
you
know,
call
it
the
land,
the
landlord
or
the
property
manager
and
they're
going
to
come
over
there
and
say
hey
folks.
Let's
keep
it
down
and
it's
going
to
work
not
to
the
men
and
women.
The
blue
show
up
it's
really
going
to
well
that
situation
and.
H
H
They
reach
out
to
me
almost
on
a
daily
basis,
because
we
help
them
find
the
owner
of
the
property,
because
a
lot
of
times
they
they
can't
figure
out
who
the
the
the
the
the
tenant
is
when
they
go
on
scene.
No
one
takes
responsibility,
there's
nobody
to
say
this
is
me.
This
is
my
place.
Every
every
response,
I
guess
I,
don't
know.
I
was
just
invited
right,
so
we
still
they
they
come
to
us
to.
H
I
H
And
if
it's
somebody
we
can
find,
if
it's
really,
you
know
at
least
it's
another
resource
for
the
police,
if
they
get
to
a
situation
and
they
need
to
contact
the
owner
of
a
rental
property,
it
can
still
be
used
in
that
that
facet.
However,
a
lot
of
ours
is
reactive
versus
proactive
and
responding
to
the
residents
at
the
time
and
offense.
It
is
really
for
follow-up,
and,
after
after
action
and
figuring
out
who's
responsible
and
who's,
going
to
start
taking
care
of
it.
E
And
to
that
point,
I
would
add
that
one
of
the
requirements
for
the
registration
is
that
for
every
rental
unit
either
the
landlord
or
their
agent
must
be
able
to
respond
to
tenant
or
emergency
calls
within
a
reasonable
time
upon
dispatch
and
I.
Think
that
that's
really
the
addressing
that
concern
well.
I
Let
me
ask
another
question
in
this
particular
case:
let's:
let's
just
use
property
taxes,
they
still
run
into
registered
agents
and
absentee
property
owners.
And
if,
let's
say
the
people,
don't
pay
the
taxes,
the
real
penalty
is
you
don't
pay
the
taxes
and
the
penalties
and
all
that
your
property's
going
to
be
optional?
What
is
that
punitive
part
in
the
law
that
says
you
don't
respond?
We're
gonna
auction,
your
property
off
when
it
comes
to
these
responsible
parties
who
are
disturbing
the
quietness
of
our
neighborhoods?
H
Well,
we
can
once
we
obtain
the
information
we
already
have.
The
ordinances
in
place,
for
example,
say:
there's,
there's
loud
noise,
it's
disturbance,
there's
vandalism
whatever,
and
we
can't
get
them.
Then.
However,
with
this
system
in
place,
we'll
be
able
to,
in
a
in
a
more
timely
manner,
reach
out
to
that
emergency
contact
get
the
information,
and
then
we
can
follow
up
with
the
appropriate
summonses
that
address
the
behavior
at
those
properties.
I
H
I
H
No,
no,
no,
no.
The
first
point
of
contact
of
the
person
who
is
violating
is
the
person
who's
going
to
be
responsible
and
issued
a
citation
okay.
If,
for
some
reason
we
have
to
go
on
further
step
and
we
can't
get
in
touch
with
the
or
can't
find
out
the
tenant,
we're
not
going
to
cite
the
the
owner
or
the
landlord
if
they
cooperate
and
give
us
that
information
and
we
go
back
and
and
take
care
of
it
with
the
tenant.
So
there's
nothing
punitive
for
the
owner
for
being
cooperative
with
us.
H
It
would
only
have
to
be
a
worse
consent
scenario,
whereas
the
reason
for
this
registration
is
to
curb
the
curb
the
amount
of
repeat
offenses
at
these
properties
right.
So
if
we
have
the
tools
in
place
to
do
that,
we
won't
be
chasing
ourselves
over
and
over.
This,
in,
in
my
hopes,
will
reduce
the
number
of
offenses
at
these
properties
because
we
have
a
contact
person
or
we
our
emergency
contact.
H
I
If
we
will
quite
call
it
that
that's
when
it
comes
to
being
applied
to
the
whole
city,
I
just
I,
don't
think
we
need
it
to
be
applied
to
the
whole
city
right
now,
so
I
think
it's
a
legal
question
counselor
to
find
a
way
that
we
can
do
it
in
the
areas
that
the
majority
of
the
problems
being
generated
from,
but
I
can
see
how
a
lot
of
people
can
fall.
In
violation
of
this
unknowingly,
you
got
two
three
Apartments
you're
renting
out
I
mean
that's
just
sitting,
not
downtowning.
I
H
I
I
I
I
know
you
how
professional
you
are.
You
will
try
to
get
the
information
out,
but
let
me
see
two
years
ago,
almost
three
years
ago,
we
passed
a
an
affordable
ordinance
that
would
create,
if
you're,
smaller
Lots.
If
you
built,
affordable,
housing
and
I'll,
tell
you
the
majority
of
the
engineering
firms
that
Divine
develops
things
in
this
City.
They
don't
even
know
we
did
it
I've
gone
to
a
number
of
them
say:
did
you
know?
Can
you
recommend
this
to
some
of
your
clients?
I
You
know
instead
of
getting
10
Lots
out
of
a
piece
of
property.
Now,
maybe
you
get
15
likes,
not
the
same
piece
of
crap.
If
you
did
before
they
didn't
even
know,
it
was
on
the
books
so
to
say
that
landowners,
property
owners
who
you
know
some
of
these
people-
could
do
this
thing
out
of
Sweat
Equity
everybody
you
know,
doesn't
help
150
units
that
they
can
get
a
management
company.
Hey
man,
I'm
frustrated
I
am
for
it
for
the
areas.
I
If
we
think
of
problem
areas,
I
think
the
larger
portion
of
the
city
doesn't
have
that
problem.
You
know
so
and
I
agree
with
you
to
find
a
solution
to
do
that.
I've
been
the
law
to
do
it,
help
you
do
your
job
in
the
areas
and
create
most
of
the
problems
in
a
community
that
should
be
quiet.
But
to
me
you
got
a
lot
of
people.
You
have
more
communities
that
are
quiet
at
night
that
will
come
under
this
than
the
ones
that
create
the
problem.
I
D
C
I
C
B
E
F
D
B
B
B
I
I
We
had
talked
about
this
before
there's
a
Sea
Island
is
doing
an
affordable.
Did
you
know,
Mr
mere
senior
housing
development
is
permanent,
affordable
housing
and
it
went
before
to
get
the
tax
credits
and
all
of
this
and
my
understanding
that
it
got
I,
don't
know
partial
tax
credits,
long
story
short,
there's
some
1.7,
1.8
million
dollars
short
from
being
able
to
put
shovels
in
the
ground,
I'm
told
we
don't
have
any
money
and
I
just
think.
This
is
an
opportunity
how
many
times
we
get
a
chance
to
create.
I
I
I
The
county
process
is
not
as
ready,
yet
they
they
put
20
million
aside,
but
they
still
have
problems.
Even
with
the
committee
that
is
supposed
to
discern
how
that
money
is
going
to
be
divided,
so
hopefully
we
can
find
a
way
to
get
128
million
kept
these
affordable
housing
units
coming
reality,
they're
permanent
they're
permanently.
Thank
you.
K
Ahead
and
get
started
and
I
will
keep
it
brief,
because
I
know
that
it's
already
pour.
But
I
am
just
on
here
today
to
tell
you
all
a
little
bit
about
what
we
do
for
our
homeless
Outreach.
We
get
a
lot
of
emails
and
calls
from
you
all
as
well
as
community
members
that
are,
you
know
relaying
to
us
concerns
and
people
who
might
be
in
need
of
assistance,
and
so
I
wanted
to
provide
some
clarity
about
our
team
and
what
they
do
and
what
our
role
is
in
homelessness
response.
K
K
D
Hi
I'm
Marquetta,
Barnett
and,
of
course,
I
am
very
new
to
the
city.
I
am
one
of
the
community
lazy
on
homelessness
specialist
here
in
Charleston
and
I.
Do
the
Outreach
within
the
community
reaching
out
to
the
homeless,
individuals
and
I
also
partake
with
being
part
of
the
Hope
Center
here
in
Charleston
as
well
too,
and
it's
nice
to
meet
everyone.
K
D
K
K
So
a
little
bit
I
want
to
go
over
what
our
Specialists
do
and
what
they
do.
Not
do
so
they
work
to
locate
and
build
rapport
with
unhoused
individuals
so
that
they
can
be
connected
to
resources,
as
I
said
and
coordinated
entry
to,
hopefully
get
them
into
housing.
They
act
as
an
alternative
to
police
contact
when
possible
and
we're
going
to
go
into
that
in
just
a
second
and
they
advocate
for
the
unhoused.
So
you
know
they
are
primarily
the
ones
that
are
on
the
street
in
the
Tri-County.
K
You
know
trying
to
locate
people
that
otherwise
wouldn't
reach
out
to
find
services
and
then
I
want
to
go
over
what
our
Outreach
Specialists
do
not
do
and
kind
of
correct
some
of
the
misconceptions
around
this.
So
they
don't
respond
to
Urgent
reports
of
violence
or
mental
health
emergencies.
They
don't
ticket
arrest
or
relocate
individuals,
they
don't
place
people
into
housing,
they
don't
clean
up
trash
or
litter
and
they
don't
do
transports
at
this
time.
K
So
a
lot
of
these
issues
are
police
issues,
and
so
that's
why
we
just
really
want
to
distinguish
when
it's
appropriate,
to
call
the
police.
If
there's
any
kind
of
safety
issue
or
concern,
then
our
Specialists
are
not
the
one
to
contact.
If
there's
somebody
who
is
you
know,
you
all
feel
like
is
in
need
of
assistance.
K
You
know
sitting
on
a
park
bench
and
you
feel
like
they're
unhoused,
we're
not
going
to
ask
them
to
move,
because
it's
legal
for
them
to
be
on
a
park
bench,
but
we
might
come
up
and
say:
hey,
are
you
in
need
of
resources?
Can
we
can
we
try
to
connect
you
with
some
Partners
who
might
be
able
to
help.
K
So
some
other
tasks
that
they
do.
It's
really
important
that
they
stay
up
to
date
on
all
different
Community
Resources.
So
we
have
monthly
calls
with
service
providers
and
it
probably
has
like
30
to
50
providers
on
there
that
share
updates
about
what
they
do
when
they
have
funding.
If
they're
having
you
know
like
Community
meals
or
something
on
that
sort,
so
they're
on
those
meetings
and
then
constantly
in
touch
with
different
providers.
K
They
visit
sites
throughout
the
City
of
Charleston
on
a
continuous
basis,
not
just
once
they
maintain
thorough
and
organized
documentation
so
that
we
can
have
reports
and
logs
to
present
to
the
city.
They
collaborate
with
police
and
other
service
providers
like
I've
been
saying,
and
that
means
sometimes
police
will
go
out
into
the
community
with
them
and
there's
also
a
MUSC
Street
Wellness
team.
The
VA
goes
out
sometimes
and
180
has
a
Outreach
team
as
well.
K
So
what
does
Street
Outreach
look
like?
Essentially
our
Outreach
specialist
first
prepared
to
go
out
in
the
field
they
have
resource
cards.
They
have
handouts
when,
when
it's
possible,
so
Waters
and
snacks
and
they're
making
sure
that
they're
safe
too.
So
they
have
weather
items
like
like
a
raincoat.
They
have
steel,
toed
boots
that
the
city
issues
them.
K
So
safety
is
our
biggest
priority
for
sure
and
then,
like
I,
said
they
visit
different
locations
in
the
city
where
the
unhoused
are,
you
know
known
to
be
or
have
been
identified
by
a
number
of
y'all,
and
then
they
connect
with
people.
They
assess
what
kind
of
needs
they
might
have
and
refer
to
different
service
providers
in
the
area
we
have
access
to
the
homeless
management
system,
and
so
we
try
to
enter
people
in
there,
secure
their
names
and
just
get
familiar
with
them,
build
that
Rapport
and
Trust
And.
K
There
are
a
number
of
individuals
who
don't
want
their
help.
They
might
not
give
their
name
or
identifying
information
or
anything
like
that
and
that's
okay
they're
not
required
to,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
give
up
on
trying
to
offer
them
resources
because
they
might
not
want
those
today,
but
they
might
want
them
tomorrow.
K
So
we
just
kind
of
continually
visit
them
and
see
if,
if
their
minds
have
changed
or
if
there's
anything
that
we
can
do
to
fill
the
gap
before
they
can
become
housed
and
then,
like
I,
said
they
document
where
the
visit
occurred.
Who
was
encountered
and
what
kind
of
resources
might
have
been
given,
and
then
they
do
follow-up
visits
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
check
and
coordinate
with
any
different
providers
that
they
may
have
been
referred
to.
K
So
then,
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
go
over
some
resources
when
people
call
me
or
they
contact,
Marquette
or
kituana.
These
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
tell
them.
This
is
like,
certainly
not
all-encompassing.
There
are
many
many
resources
in
the
Tri-County,
but
these
are
some
of
the
Baseline
things
that
we
use.
K
If
people
are
literally
homeless
by
Hud
definition-
and
this
means
staying
somewhere-
that's
not
inhabitable
for
humans,
then
they
can
call
the
housing
crisis
line
and
they
first
do
diversion
to
see
if
there's
a
different
route
than
just
putting
them
on
a
very
long
list.
But
if
they
need
to
go
on
that
list,
then
they'll
complete
a
full
assessment
and
see
if
they're
eligible,
we
always
give
out
Trident
2-1-1,
that's
a
huge
resource
and
essentially
they
they
refer
out.
They
know
what
kind
of
services
people
have
available.
K
K
There's
a
new
organization
in
Charleston
called
shelters
to
shutters
that
places
people
in
apartment
complexes
and
employs
them
at
those
States
same
complexes.
So
we
refer
people
that
way
full
metal,
Community
Action
Partnership
provides
rental
and
utility
assistance
when
it's
available
and
it's
not
always
available,
but
they
they
did
have
some
recently
our
city
of
Charleston
Outreach
workers
and
then
the
city
of
North
Charleston,
just
employed
an
Outreach
work
or
two
that
we
work
closely
with
Brandon
littleenthal
and
he
actually
came
over
from
the
Department
of
Mental
Health.
K
So
these
area
specific
ones,
definitely
cater
towards
those
people
that
are
immediately
around
them,
but
there
are
also
services
that
they
have
for
everybody
in
the
Tri-County
yeah,
just
some
numbers
for
you,
people
who
were
served
via
Outreach
between
June,
1st
2021
and
May
1st
May
31st.
Excuse
me:
2022
Outreach
staff
had
600
encounters
with
unhoused
individuals,
so
that
was
128
new
contacts
and
472
contacts
of
people
they
had
encountered
once
before.
I
know
that
this
doesn't
go
up
until
the
day
that
we're
meeting
today.
K
But
that's
because
this
is
the
the
program
year
that
we
had
to
submit
a
recent
report.
For
so
we
should
have
some
updated
numbers
very
soon
and
then
some
things
that
I
ask
everybody
to
keep
in
mind,
and
this
is
kind
of
the
form
of
advocacy.
So,
council
members,
if
you're,
you
know
interacting
with
your
constituents.
These
are
some
things
that
you
can
relate
to
them.
K
Unhoused
individuals
are
part
of
our
community
they're,
not
separate
or
other
from
us,
so
we
call
them
our
unhoused
neighbors.
For
a
reason
they
are
a
part
of
City
of
Charleston
citizens.
Anyone
can
experience
housing
instability
or
become
unhoused.
It's
it's
much
easier
than
you
all.
Think
and
I
think
that
we
discovered
this
during
the
pandemic.
K
Just
like
you
are
unhoused
individuals
are
often
marginalized,
judged
under
resource
and
voiceless.
So
just
keeping
this
in
mind
in
our
interactions
with
the
community,
so
that
we
are
making
sure
that
people
know
to
just
be
caring
and
compassionate
when
we're
talking
about
these
people
because
they
are
very
vulnerable.
So
we
want
to
do
everything
we
can
to
help
and
then
just
because
someone's
unhoused
doesn't
mean
they
literally
commit
crimes.
Panhandle
are
on
drugs
or
are
distract
destructive
or
aggressive.
K
K
So
that
is
all
for
my
presentation
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
You
might
have
I
hope
that
this
cleared
up
some
misconceptions
or
gave
some
advice
about
when
people
are
contacting
you
and
telling
you
about
unhoused
individuals,
because
I
know
that
it's
certainly
a
difficult
situation
and
the
answer
is
always.
You
know
we're
doing
what
we
can
we're
expanding
our
Outreach
team,
which
increases
our
reach
and
our
capacity
to
serve
and
respond
quickly.
G
I
Anybody
aware
of
anything
we're
doing
from
a
zoning
perspective
to
help
create
I,
don't
know
tiny
house
communities,
I,
think
Mr
mid.
Maybe
some
time
ago
you
had
me
mention
about
some
things.
I
think
town
city
of
Columbia
is
doing
up
there
to
provide
affordable
aspect
to
units
up
there.
Are
we
doing
anything
that
hypothetically,
if
there's
a
little
track
of
land
out
there,
to
create
smaller
units
for
transitional
housing.
K
So
I
think
that
what
we
have
figured
out
is
there
is
obviously
not
a
lot
of
land
for
us
to
work
with.
So
we're
focusing
our
efforts
on
like
landlord,
Recruitment
and
engagement,
to
try
to
provide
landlords
incentives
to
rent
to
people
or
own
house
who
might
have
housing
vouchers,
emergency
housing,
vouchers
or
people
who
are
low
income
or
might
have
barriers
like
records
or
credit
issues
or
whatnot,
because
the
units
already
exist.
Then
we
want
to
try
to
use.
What's
here
and
I
know
that
that
sounds
may
sound
a
little
bit
impractical.
I
I
understand
and
I
appreciate
that,
but
are
we
doing
anything
from
a
planning
perspective
on
zoning
perspective?
Let
me
put
it
that
I'll
point
it
that
should
a
piece
of
land
or
a
piece
of
property
the
city
owns
could
be
converted.
There
was
a
time
right
on
hugee
Street,
Mr
Mayor.
You
may
remember
this:
we
had
those
little
A-frame
houses,
I
know,
councilmember
Mitchell
remembers
it
I
think
they
got
destroyed
by
believe
it
or
not
for
most
in
termites
and
never
came
back.
It
would
have
been
right
across
the
street.
I
From
was
also
said:
Matthew
Matthews,
Baptist,
Church,
Baptist,
Church
right,
you
know,
midi
Street.
Take
a
left
on
hugee
would
have
been
right
there.
On
the
left
hand,
side
they
work
well
for
a
lot
of
years,
because
they
never
got
built
back
from
I,
think
the
Episcopal
church
or
something
all
of
that
property.
But
can
we
right
now
if
I
wanted
to
develop
Ross
wanted
to
develop
a
tiny
house
Community
we
have
the
zoning
that
would
allow
that
to
happen.
I
You
know
a
number
of
cities
around
the
town
around
the
country,
that's
beginning,
to
get
examples
of
smaller
unit
type
housing
for
people
to
move
in
and
transition
to
better,
better
life,
and
so
I
mean
Miss,
Beck
I
understand
trying
to
get
existing
housing
I.
Think
it's
a
you
have
to
have
a
multi-pronged
approach
on
this
one,
but.
G
C
You
know
we,
we
added
the
Adu
right
capability
for
folks,
I
I,
don't
think
it's
been
so
much
a
matter
of
our
zoning
as
as,
as
Emily
mentioned,
you
know,
if
you
got
a
piece
of
dirt
in
the
City
of
Charleston,
you
know
not
to
be
going
up.
Tiny
houses,
don't
don't
you
know
they're
one
level
by
by
Nature
I,
if,
if
we
had
the
land
for
it,
I'd
love
to
consider
you
know
doing
some
I
saw
that
article
that
Columbia
was
doing
some
prefab
units
and
I.
C
C
This
is
is
an
aside.
This
is
totally
an
aside,
but
I
think
you
might
know.
I
just
got
back
from
delegation
trip
to
Barbados
and
they
have
these
little
houses
that
they
built
I,
guess
after
their
emancipation,
particularly
and
and
there
was
a
lot
of
property
disputes
and
they
actually
made
the
houses
so
that
they
could
be
easily
moved
when
there
was
some
dispute.
C
Oh
you
don't
own
that
land,
you
know,
and
they
had
them
like
in
five
or
six
pieces,
and
they
put
it
on
a
cart
and
move
it
somewhere
else
and
set
it
up
again.
They
call
them
shuttle,
houses
and
yeah.
It
was
It,
was
kind
of
I
thought
about
the
tiny
houses
when
I
saw
that,
but
anyway,
from
other
I'm
happy
to
have
our
planning
department.
Look
at
the
zoning
on
that.
I
I
K
I
C
J
I
was
muted.
Sorry,
thank
you,
Miss
Beck,
for
that
wonderful
presentation
and
thank
you
for
all
that.
You
do
I
think
when
I
first
met
Miss
Johnson.
She
said
that
I
think
you
were
the
only
person
that
worked
in
this
Division,
and
so
now
you
have
two
more
so
I.
That's
wonderful
and
I
really
applaud
the
work
that
y'all
do
because
Miss
Johnson
shared
a
lot
when
we
first
met,
and
it
really
is
amazing
the
work
that
y'all
do
for
you
know
these
citizens.
So
thank
you.
J
G
Thank
you,
councilwoman,
Parker
and
I
guess
just
to
add
to
that
mayor
and
Council
council
members
to
council
councilman
waring's
point
about
some
of
the
synergies
that
we
could
possibly
have.
I
know
the
mayor.
I
mentioned
this
a
couple
weeks
back
when
we
did
the
the
illiteracy
effort
here,
mayor
and
Chambers
regarding
working
with
the
school
district
a
little
bit
closer.
C
I
G
C
Chairman,
if
I,
if
I
may,
I,
also
wanted
to
thank
Emily
for
the
presentation,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
misunderstandings
out
there
about
all
this
and
I.
Think
Marquetta
is
off
the
call
already
I've
heard
wonderful
things
about
her
work
already
and
katwana
it's
nice
to
have
you
on
the
team.
Welcome
aboard
y'all
these.
These
ladies,
are
doing
the
Lord's
work.
C
They
really
are
they're
out
there
in
the
trenches
one-on-one
with
folks
who
were
have
been
marginalized
and
have
had
rough
experiences
for
whatever
reason
and
my
hat's
off
to
them.
For
that
doing
that
kind
of
work
I
mean
it's
not
easy.
You
have
to
be
kind
of
a
special
caring,
compassionate
person
but
effective
at
the
same
time-
and
you
know,
I
I
must
admit
it's
it's
it's
challenging
and
that
there
are
a
lot
of
misconceptions
out
there.
C
As
Emily
said
and
I
get,
you
know,
I
get
pictures
from
citizens
all
the
time.
You
know
this
person
is
sleeping
in
the
park.
Well,
gee
yeah!
If
you
wanted
to
go
sleep
in
the
park
technically,
you
could
go.
Do
that
too.
If
you
wanted
to
you
know
it's
not
against
the
law.
I
have
to
remind
folks,
often
to
be
unhoused
or
to
be
homeless.
It's
not
against
the
law,
and
so
this
compassionate
Outreach
is
is
terrific.
C
At
the
same
time,
I
must
share
that
I
I
meet
about
this
topic
with
Chief
Reynolds
in
our
Police
Department,
often
that
again
repeating
it's
not
against
the
law
to
be
homeless,
but
if
you're
breaking
the
law
arrest
them
you
know,
and
so
so
it's
it's
a
hand
in
glove
thing.
There
are
many
unhoused
individuals
who
who
break
no
laws
and
we
try
to
help
them
if
they're,
unhoused
or
House
people
I
don't
care
whether
they're
homeless
or
got
a
mansion.
You
know
South
abroad,
they're
breaking
the
law.
C
We
ought
to
arrest
them.
You
know
so
we're
it's
just
it
can
be
challenging.
Sometimes
because
of
that
that
that
misconception
now
I
do
want
to
share
just
talking
about
breaking
law.
It
is
against
a
city
ordinance
to
be
standing
on
the
side
of
the
street
soliciting
money
for
safety
considerations
and
otherwise
Council
passed
an
ordinance
such
as
that
years
ago,
and
so
katwana
and
Emily
Marquetta.
C
C
So,
basically
in
a
central
business
district,
if
you're
sitting
or
lying
on
the
street
or
the
sidewalk,
it
is
contrary
to
city
ordinance,
and
so
we
asked
folks
not
to
do
that
respectfully
now,
sitting
in
the
in
mayor
and
square
is
different
from
sitting
on
the
sidewalk
along
King
Street.
So
some
of
these
get
these
fine
lines
of
Distinction
and
and
I
do
want
to
and
force
the
laws
that
we
have
on
on
the
books.
C
It
is
our
responsibility,
so
I
asked
y'all
when
you're
out
and
about-
and
you
may
have
to
you
know,
call
call
I
know
you
work
with
the
police
all
the
time,
but
please
I
want
to
be
compassionate,
but
at
the
same
time
we
see
someone
and
I'd
say
this
to
everybody.
You
see
somebody
violating
one
of
these
ordinances,
let's
let's
call
the
police
and
and
and
have
it
looked
after,
but
we
it's
important
that
we
know
the
distinction
and
and
not
just
generalize.
Oh
there's
someone
who's
unhoused.
C
You
know
they
shouldn't
be
there
just
because
they're
unhoused,
you
know
that's
a
really
important
distinction
to
make
and
I've
carried
on
too
long.
But
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
dealing
with
reports
about
all
this
myself.
Personally,
so
I've
I've
kind
of
been
in
the
weeds,
but
thank
you
Emily
katwana
again
welcome
and
please
pass
my
thanks
along
to
Marquetta.
K
Absolutely
thank
you
so
much
mayor
and
we
really
couldn't
do
it
without
all
of
y'all
council
members
that
are,
you
know
we're
passing
things
that
are
helpful
for
our
unhoused
community.
We
do
work
closely
with
the
police,
so
even
if
there's
a
call
about
an
unhoused
individual
who
you
know
is
just
in
need
of
assistance
and
not
doing
something
illegal,
then
they'll
call
Marquette
or
ketuana
and
have
them
go
out.
So
it's
it's
great
partnering
with
them
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
speak,
go
back
again
about
the
idea
of
more
housing.
K
There
are
a
lot
of
non-profit
partners
that
have
things
in
the
work
and
plans
in
the
future
and
it's
just
very
slow
moving
moving,
as
you
all
know,
but
we're
excited
to
partner
with
them
and
see
what
we
can
do
also-
and
it's
good
to
have
people
who
are
already
working
in
non-profits
already
working
on
the
ground
to
develop
systems
and
housing
like
this
and
shelter
like
this,
because
they
really
know
what
they're
doing
and
it
takes
a
level
of
comprehensive
care.
So
you
know
just
building
housing
and
then
putting
people
in
it
is.
K
G
Thank
you
Emily
and
the
rest
of
the
team
for
the
report.
It's
actually
very
informative
for
me,
as
a
downtown
resident,
you
often
wonder,
is
to
the
mayor's
point.
Is
the
panhandling
legal
and
have
we
if
we
passed
any
ordinances
in
the
past?
Is
there
a
way
for
you
to
share?
Is
there
is
there
I
guess
my
question
would
be
and
then
we
can
button
this
up?
Is
there
a
emergency
hotline
or
any
any
number
that
folks
can
reach
out
to
if
they
they
see?
G
K
So
essentially,
I
would
start
by
sharing
the
information
that
we
have
shared
with
y'all
today,
because
that
might
assuage
some
concerns
that
they
have.
But
then,
if,
if
there's
an
ongoing
concern
or
they
want
to
learn
more,
then
you
can
certainly
send
them
over
to
me
and
I.
Actually,
we
created
these
little
resource
cards
recently
that
we
can
send
out
to
y'all
to
give
the
constituents
as
well.
K
I
think
that
there
are
some
particulars
around
the
illegal
or
not
illegal
thing
having
to
do
with
panhandling
I
know
we
don't
have
Steve
Steve
on
here,
but
he's
the
one
who
will
often
speak
to
that,
but
yeah
generally
we're
also
exploring
options
to
try
to
eliminate
that
problem
in
the
city.
So
a
lot
of
cool
things
moving
forward,
we're
still
working
on
it.