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City of Charleston Committee on Public Works and Utilities 9/26/2022
A
A
A
I
did
I
did
learn
this
week
that
when
you're
looking
at
hurricane
hurricane
intensification
forecasting,
they
use
a
system
called
the
deterministic
to
probabilistic
statistical
rapid
intensification
index.
Thank
you,
which
sounds
like
something.
Willy
Wonka
would
make
chocolate
with
vaguely
I.
C
B
Oh
Mr,
Men
I
see
The
Miz
joined
us.
Let's
call
the
meeting,
fill
the
meaning
to
order
and
I'll
I'll
bring
a
few
words.
Let
us
pray
eternally
father
as
we
come
before
you.
We
ask
a
special
prayers
and
keep
the
People
In
Harm's
Way
of
the
very
storms
that
have
gone
through
in
your
Embrace,
helping
needed
assistance,
the
timely
and
readily
available,
and
look
for
and
look
out
for
those
who
have
been
injured
and
their
family
members.
B
We
pray
for
our
staff,
our
committee
and
this
city,
as
we
go
about
doing
the
business
the
people
and
trying
to
do
it
in
a
very
efficient
manner
and
help
us
bring
the
best
of
our
abilities
as
we
go
about
making
the
crucial
decisions
on
behalf
of
the
people.
We
represent
these
prayers.
We
ask
for
in
your
name,
let
us
all
say,
amen,
amen.
All
right.
Do
we
have
approval
of
ministry
down
to
Item
B
approval
of
September
12
minutes.
C
B
D
Mr
chairman,
we
have
five
encroachments
former
pretty
standard
the
one.
The
last
one
I
want
to
point
out:
3065
bees,
Ferry
Road,
there's
some
work,
that's
being
done
in
connection
with
a
project
over
there
and
we've
worked
with
stormwater
to
ensure
that
they're,
okay
with
this
and
they've
reviewed
the
requests,
and
it's
basically
for
some
work
around
one
of
our
drainages
for
some
head
walls
and
a
driveway,
and
we
work
with
Mr
Holton
and
Benji
Smith
and
they've
reviewed
and
approved
that.
So
we
were
for
recommending
for
that
encroachment.
E
Mcquerry
councilman,
okay
I
just
want
to
note
on
item
F4
that
was
my
old
office.
Building
that
I
no
longer
owned
so
I
don't
have
a
conflict
of
interest
with
that
anymore.
D
Mr
chairman,
our
environmental
services,
update
I'm,
going
to
ask
Matt
if
he
can
share
his
screen
to
kind
of
give.
You
guys
an
update.
You
know
we
told
you
from
now
on
every
two
weeks
we're
going
to
kind
of
let
you
know
where
we're
over
trash
and
garbage,
and
we've
got
good
news
today.
So
I'm
gonna,
let
Matt
share
it
with
you.
F
All
right,
it
should
be
coming
up
here,
so
Tom
wanted
me
to
to
come
on
and
brief.
You
guys
on
trash
and
garbage
where
we
were
and
where
we're
at
so.
As
you
can
see,
I
started
tracking
this
when
we
were
having
our
issues
with
trash
and
getting
everything
completed
the
first
week
we
started
it
was
the
week
of
July
25th.
F
F
We
have
made
big
improvements
since
the
last
two
weeks,
the
12th
we
were
at
100
and
100
on
time
and
last
week
we
were
100,
complete
and
83
on
time
for
trash,
we
had
to
run
four
routes
on
Friday
that
were
we
that
we
only
finished
about
80
on,
on
its
scheduled
day,
garbage
has
been
complete
a
hundred
percent
over
the
last
two
weeks
on
time,
94
for
the
first
week
in
97
for
the
second,
we
are
having
to
supplement
four
routes
a
week
right
now
with
Trident,
as
we
have
two
of
our
asls
down,
so
they
have
been
filling
in.
F
B
E
F
And
I
can
tell
you
that
you
know
I'm
in
contact
with
Brian
Sheehan
in
his
Department
too,
and
the
number
of
calls
in
that
department
have
dropped
significantly
at
what
as
well.
So
we
are
definitely
seeing
improvements.
G
I
just
wanted
to
thank
Matt
and
Tom
a
particularly
Matt
for
this
effort
over
last
couple
of
months
to
to
write
the
ship
and
get
caught
up
and
now
to
stay
caught
up
and
and
I
know,
he's
had
a
a
few
different
challenges
from
equipment
to
hiring
to
so
thanks
Matt
for
sticking
hanging
in
there
and
and
getting
us
back
caught
up
I
would
urge
you,
even
if
you
you
need
to
stick
with
Trident
for
a
few
extra
weeks
to
to
help
you
with
the
garbage,
so
that,
if
that
gives
you
some
more
capability
on
the
trash
side
to
you
know
keep
this
up.
G
You
know
on
a
for
a
sustained
period,
so
everybody
gets
used
to
it
again.
You
know
please
please
please
do
that.
I
think
I
think
it's
important
to
now
be
consistent
for
a
while,
and
we
thank
you
for
all
your
efforts.
F
I
appreciate
it
yeah.
Our
plan
is
to
make
sure
that
we
stay
consistent
moving
forward.
We
are
actually
seeing
an
increase
of
applicants
too,
so
hopefully,
that'll
that'll
continue
and
we'll
be
able
to
get
some
employees
in
here.
We
actually
hired
two
two
weeks
ago
and
we
got
another
one
that
will
be
starting
next
week
great
so
so
we
are
making
progress
there
as
well
great.
D
Mentioned
this
at
the
start
of
the
meeting,
but
some
people
may
not
have
been
on
we're.
Gonna
start
stand
back
operations
on
Wednesday
morning,
I,
think
anticipation
of
Hurricane
Ian
and
information
from
Jack's
office
and
the
pi
will
be
getting
that
information
out
to
everybody.
A
little
bit
of
standard
operation,
10
bag
limit,
bring
your
own
shovels,
we're
providing
the
sand
and
the
bags
and
we're
Staffing
from
eight
to
six
correct
Matt.
F
Yeah,
that's
correct,
we'll
staff
at
eight
to
six
we'll
have
five
locations.
One
is
partnered
with
the
town
of
James
Island
it'll
be
at
their
Town
Hall.
D
And
the
other
thing
Mr
chairman
I
wanted
to
mention
is
as
Matt
and
I
were
talking.
The
other
day
is,
as
we
did
earlier
this
year.
We
want
to
reward
all
our
crews
for
their
hard
work,
so
we're
planning
another
appreciation,
lunch
with
them
and
we'll
keep
you
all
posted.
Hopefully
you
can
join
us
for
that.
That'd.
E
You
so
where
were
the
other
locations
be
for
sandbox.
F
So
right
now
we
don't
have
we
have
one
that
we're
still
working
on.
They
are
going
to
be
at
Governor's
Park
on
Daniel's
Island
right
there
by
the
dog
park
under
I-526
bees,
Landing
Recreation
Center
on
West
Ashley.
F
There
will
be
one
at
Hampton
Park
right
there
by
Ashley
in
that
little
parking
spot
right
there
by
the
ball
fields,
and
then
the
one
that
we
are
working
on
is
at
Grace
Bridge
right
there.
Next
to
the
cigar
Factory
we're
still
waiting
for
approval
from
that
Lee
Bailey
is
working
on
securing
that.
If
we
are
unable
to
secure
that
we
will
go
to
Harman
and
Herbert,
which
is
up
higher
on
the
neck
for
for
stand
back
location.
E
If
I
could
make
a
suggestion,
Mr
chairman-
yes,
yes,
sir
number,
one
to
make
sure
we
we
publicize
these
as
as
early
as
possible
and
the
the
other
thing
is
that,
in
my
experience
with
these
distribution
points.
E
F
Sir,
to
do
sir,
we
are
going
to
have
our
streets
and
sidewalks
Department
man.
The
sites
and
I
have
three
supervisors
that
will
be
going
around
through
all
of
them
to
make
sure
on
a
rotation
that
they
are
being
ran
like
they're
supposed
to
be.
B
F
We
had
five
guys
that
were
out
on
FMLA
and
we
started
getting
those
guys
back,
so
that
was
able
to
to
see
a
huge
difference.
I
mean
you
can
see
by
that
chart
as
soon
as
we
started
getting
the
guys
back,
the
stuff
started
coming
you
know,
and
then
we
had
a
battle
with
some
claws
there
for
a
while,
too,
with
that
stuff
being
down
and
and
the
parts
finally
came
in
so
that
stuff
is
up
and
running.
Finally
as
well,
so
the.
B
F
So
so
the
new
one
that
we
just
bought
is
230,
000,
232
I
think
is
the
exact
price,
but
that
is
one
man.
You
don't
have
to
leave
the
cab
yeah.
That
truck
is
actually
out
on
the
road
now
that
we
bought
it's
we're
training
our
second
employee
on
that
truck
this
week.
So
it's
out
on
Route
and
being
utilized
every
day,
yeah.
B
I've
seen
it
actually
I've
seen
the
one
that
tried
it
has
in
action.
How
many
of
those
trucks
we
only
have
one
of
them
so.
F
We
are
working
with
on
our
replacement
plan
on
phasing
that
equipment
out.
So
hopefully
you
should
see
some
of
that
stuff.
Maybe
come
through
the
budget.
Maybe
next
year,
I
think
I,
don't
know
how
many
is
in
the
budget
for
next
year,
but
there
are.
B
Some
and
one
last
question:
when
it
was
last
week,
I
happened
to
be
coming
through
a
little
shopping
center,
West
Ashley
that
has
a
dry
cleaning
to
it
and
behind
the
drive
was
strip.
You
know
these
little
bees
with
full
five
cup
stores
on
the
back
portion.
All
of
them
had
green
trash
cans
and
I
noticed
our
our
trash
lady,
who
happened
to
be
a
lady
driving
the
truck
picked
up
and
and
the
way
the
property
is
situated.
B
B
I
didn't
realize
we
had
to
do
that
for
commercial
entities,
I
mean
in
mouth.
It's
like.
We
got
a
dumpster
and
we
paid
commercial
person
to
come
out
here
and
do
it.
B
Because
I
was
thinking,
I
mean
just
like
just
look
how
long
it
took
her,
she
could
have
been
on
her
route.
Hitting
these
houses
yeah
versus
you
know,
a
commercial
guide
is
frankly
being
cheap,
doesn't
want
to
get
enough
yeah.
All.
D
Right:
Mr
O'brien,
yes,
sir
I
want
that.
Also
because
you
know
Matt
and
I
monitor
our
local
government,
radio
and
our
vehicles
and
and
Friday
afternoon
late
that
we
had
Crews
working
and
I
just
it
would
do
you
guys
and
ladies
proud
to
hear
the
teamwork
people
checking
with
other
routes,
everything
when
people
finish
these
guys
and
gals.
D
They
just
don't
go
home
they're
out
there,
helping
each
other
and
I
was
very
proud
and
I
told
Matt
this
morning
about
a
couple
people
individually,
who
heard
asking
if
people
needed
help,
so
they
understand
the
importance
of
their
mission
and
it
it
really
makes
me
an
honor
to
work
with
these.
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
up
there
too.
B
I
saw
councilmember
Lewis
Saturday
and
he
told
me
that
his
trash
got
picked
up
on
a
Sunday.
Okay,
there's
a
lot
of
people
out
there
working
on
Sunday
but
anyway,
good
job.
Thank
you!
So
much
H
Mr
Mr
Fountain.
Each
one
check
balance.
A
Hey,
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
so
the
the
first
couple
items
are
related
to
related
to
each
other.
The
first
one
is
recommended
approval
of
the
actual
Construction
contract
to
install
two
check
valves.
A
Basically
at
the
Washington
Street
area,
the
contracts
discusses
Union
Pier,
quite
a
bit
because
that's
where
the
check
valves
will
actually
be
going
in,
but
it's
to
address
the
title
flooding
in
the
Washington
Street
area
near
the
entrance
Union
Pier,
the
contracts
with
BNC
utilities,
365
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
is
one
of
these
check
valves
is
a
very,
very
large
check
valve.
A
The
second
item
relates
to
the
second
component
of
the
item,
which
is
that
the
project
will
be
cost
shared
with
CWS
reimbursing
100
000
due
to
the
improvements
they
get
from
sewer
performance
by
not
having
standing
water
in
the
area
and
then
the
South
Carolina
State
Ports
Authority
has
also
agreed
to
reimburse
100
000
towards
that
installation,
with
the
city
of
course
contributing
the
remaining
165
800
from
our
actually
our
stormwater
drainage
fund,
which
has
a
line
item
for
check
valve
installations.
Each
year.
B
Well,
I've
been
moved
in
second
taking.
It
sounds
like
a
lot
of
good
work.
There
Mr
Fountain
any
discussion
on
that
hearing
that
all
oh
Mr,
mid,
I'm.
G
Mr
chairman
and
everyone
I
just
want
to-
let
you
all
know,
thanks
to
Charleston
Water
Service,
for
their
participation.
They've
done
this
before
with
us,
but
also
wanted
to
share
that
when
I
called
Barbara
Melvin
at
the
Port
Authority
about
cost
sharing
this
with
us,
she
did
not
pause.
She
did
not
hesitate
and
immediately
said
that
they
would
share
this
cost
with
us
and
it's
on
their
property
as
well.
G
B
Listen
I
couldn't
agree
more
any
other
input,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Thank
you
item
H3
Church,
Creek,
Mr,
fountain,.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
so
this
is
fee
Amendment
with
biohabitats
on
the
church,
Creek
contract,
so
we're
at
again.
This
is
an
amendment
we're
adding
new
services
to
the
contract,
which
is
to
provide
construction,
engineer,
inspection,
work
on
the
bridge,
Point
ecological
Park
project,
as
well
as
the
Walk
Drive
project
area
and
then
we're
adding
in
some
additional
Design
Services
for
the
Bridgepoint
ecological
Park,
one
taking
it
all
the
way
to
final
design
and
permit
in
and
then
to
add
in
a
few
Park
park-like
amenities.
A
So,
basically
Preparatory
work
for
a
playground,
bringing
water
and
sewer
and
electrical
step
outs
in
for
doing
some
sight,
lighting
I'm
doing
some
design
work
for
Bridges
and
kind
of
an
improved
walkway
Corridor,
and
that's
in
coordination
with
the
parks
department
who
will
likely
come
behind
us
and
install
those
as
the
project
gets
towards
Construction.
B
Committee,
we
have
a
motion,
something
about
executive
by
councilman.
She
any
more
discussion
hearing
that
all
in
favor,
please
say:
hi
hi
spring
fish
bearing
Mr
Felton
news
got.
G
Chairman
the
item
we
just
passed
is
right,
along
the
lines
of
our
Dutch
dialogues,
thinking
that
we
always
try
to
include
amenities
and
dual
other
purposes
for
our
citizens,
along
with
our
stormwater
projects
and
councilmember
Bowden.
This.
This
really
is
kind
of
direct
result
of
a
community
meeting
we
had
out
in
in
Shadow
Moss
about
the
project
and
everybody's
excitement
that
that
we
have
a
city
park
in
addition
to
handling
the
stormwater
out
there.
G
So
anyway,
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
Citizen
input
went
into
this
and
and
I
think
rightfully
so,
and
it's
right,
along
with
lines
of
of
all
the
Dutch
dialogues,
work.
B
We've
done
councilman
Bowden.
H
Just
to
expand
on
that
a
little
bit
I've
heard
from
I
mean
you
can't
even
believe
how
many
people
who
you
know
say
things
like
we've,
been
asking
for
a
playground
out
in
this
area
for
30
years
and
we're
you
know
kind
of
checking
off
that
box
with
a
major
stormwater
project.
H
B
It's
not
a
good
deal.
Let
me
ask:
is
there
any
drawings
on
that
that
can
be
pushed
out
to
council
members,
we'll
look
when
when
it's
finished.
A
We
do
have
the
chairman.
We
do
have
the
like
the
plan
view
of
a
Like
An,
All,
Landscape
Architects,
rendering
of
what
the
site
will
look
like.
We
haven't
yet
finalized
with
Jason.
What
the
like
the
playsets
will
look
like,
but
the
the
locations
and
the
overall
layout
of
the
site
are
available.
I
can
send
that
over
to
you
certainly.
B
B
A
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
so
this
is
a
spring
fish
for
an
item.
It's
approval
of
a
fee
Amendment
with
Davidson
Floyd.
It's
it's
basically
for
the
developing,
an
electronic
security
and
operations
monitoring
system
for
the
bump
station
infrastructure.
We're
also
building
this
in
a
way
that
it's
expandable
out
to
other
City
pump
stations
as
those
get
retrofitted
or
come
online,
but
it
primarily
is
is
perimeter
security
and
then
internally,
to
be
able
to
monitor
what
functionality
the
pump
station
has.
B
Probably
moved
in
okay,
taking
it
any
more
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
I
just
have
a
discussion
on
areas
of
high
risk
of
significant
flooding
right
I
had
my
discussion
last
week
have
a
little
bit
to
say
today,
but
let
me
defer
to
committee
Members
First,
you
know
after
we
had
our
discussion
about
areas
that,
in
particular,
flooded
during
a
recent
rain
on
high
tide.
If
any
of
you
all
had
a
chance
to
go
through
some
of
you,
all's
districts
to
see
if
that
effect
was
a
similar
situation.
H
Well,
I
think
you
know
kind
of
going
along
with
the
last
discussion
that
the
issues
out-
and
you
know
particularly
the
church
Creek
area-
are
well
documented,
but
so
I'm
a
belabor
at
that
point.
I've
had
a
conversation
with
Matt
about
things
that
can
be
done
there
and
be
coming
to
semi-auto
to
ask
about
getting
money
for
some
of
those
things.
But
the
here
Pond
area
off
of
61
I.
A
H
Realize
quite
how
bad
that
flooded
and
it's
a
it's
a
strange
area,
because
you
know
it's
one
of
these
areas
where,
if
you'd
walk
on
one
side
of
the
street,
it's
County
the
other
side
of
the
street
city.
H
The
legislative
delegation
has
gotten
involved
with
solving
some
of
their
issues,
so
you
know
bigger
issues
than
I
expected
out
there.
So
I
appreciate
you
bringing
this
up
so
that
I.
Could
you
know
kind
of
push
out
this
question
to
folks
and
gotten
a
lot
more
feedback
than
I
thought.
I
would.
B
Some
of
those
addresses
that
you
are
familiar
with
would
be
good
to
kind
of
Bring
It
Forward,
because,
let
me
let
me
say
it
is
I'm,
saying
this,
because
I
think
it
may
be
with
money
and
obviously
Manpower
I
mean
we
got
to
know
how
with
Mr
Fountain
and
his
team-
and
we
just
got
to
find
a
way
to
get
more
money
to
do
this,
because
those
are
some
of
the
with
money
and
Manpower
and
obviously
easements
and
some
of
these
areas
that
that
I'll
talk
on.
B
We
already
have
the
easement,
it's
a
matter
of
money
and
the
Manpower
that
your
suggestion
at
Council
about
increasing
the
small
budgets
allocation
I
think
it's
spot
on,
but
I
got
to
be
frank,
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
more
money
than
a
million
or
two
dollars
to
do
these
things
from
you
know:
Wes
Ashley,
James,
Island
and
even
some
of
the
areas
on
the
peninsula.
B
So
anyway,
that's
I'm.
Thinking
as
we
go
about
preparing
for
the
budget,
that's
kind
of
one,
so
those
addresses
I'll
be
providing
a
list
of
addresses.
As
well,
some
of
these
have
been
areas
that
commercial
entities
has
is
put
on
residential
areas
and
I
believe
if,
if
I
thought,
Mr
Mayor,
it
was
four
or
five
years
ago.
I'll
say
this
is
what
that
was.
When
cabinets
was
here,
I
thought
we
passed
the
ordinance.
B
Allow
a
certain
amount
of
time
to
go
by
and
some
of
these
existing
shopping
centers.
They
have
to
come
and
compliance
with
stormwater
retaining
stormwater
on
their
properties
before
releasing
it
into
the
public
system,
and
if
we
have
it,
if
that
is
in
fact
not
the
case,
then
I
sure
hope,
I'll
legal
Minds
to
put
something
together,
because
right
now
the
system
is
still
the
same
and
a
lot
of
it.
West
Ashley
in
the
doo-wop
area
is
just
a
a
timing.
B
We
need
bigger
pipes
to
ditch
and
then
in
a
timing
these,
because
they're
all
these
commercial
areas,
the
older
ones,
have
no
no
retainage
of
water
on
their
properties
before
it
goes
directly
into
the
system,
but
I
see
councilman,
seek
his
hand
up
and
then
Council,
lady
Parker,
so
I
would
go
in
that
order.
Councilman
Siegen.
C
C
We've
got
to
think
about
the
big
size
projects
and
one
of
those
and
to
me-
and
this
is
no
news
to
you-
Mr
chairman
or
probably
anybody
listening
is
Calhoun
West
and
we
just
can't
lose
sight
of
that.
How
we
we've
got
to
get
after
that
project,
and
you
know
now
is
the
time
and
it's
it's
it's
such
a
regionally
important
project.
C
It
can
be
done
in
phases,
but
until
we
know
exactly
what
it
looks
like,
it's
very
rare
that
a
council
member
can
tell
you
how
many
acres
his
or
her
district
is,
but
I
can
tell
you
how
big
District
8
is
because
it
effectively
is
the
footprint
of
the
California
drainage
basin,
which
is
right
plus
or
minus
900
Acres.
So
big
project
gonna
take
big
money
and
big
planning,
but
we
can't
put
it
off
so
Matt.
C
B
I
I
agree:
I
can
agree
with
you
more
I
I
when
I
said
Mr,
Fountain
I
think
we
have
one
of
the
best
engineers
in
this
area.
This
side
of
the
Mississippi
I
meant
that
at
the
last
meeting,
I
think
I'm
not
alone,
in
that
our
our
question
is
a
matter
of
money
Manpower
and
we
I
think
we
already
got
to
know
how
we
know
what
needs
to
be
done,
but
we
can't
pay
for
it
and.
E
B
E
B
E
B
I
You
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
yes
and
I
was
hoping
I'd
be
back
at
my
computer
by
now,
but
I'm.
Not
so,
I'll
just
go
off
memory,
so
the
the
ones
in
question.
For
me,
we
have
some
areas.
Obviously
battery
Island
Drive,
that's
been
a
big
one
up
for
discussion
with
you
know:
we've
we've
met
with
the
state
scdot
the
county,
but
battery
Island
Drive.
You
know
those
drain,
those
ditches
those
culverts
are
just
packed
compacted.
So
this
coming
week
is
a
perfect
example.
I
If
we
get
a
high
tide,
Heavy
Rain
I
mean
that
road
is
gone.
The
ditches
are,
you
know,
there's
nowhere.
The
water
can't
even
get
in
to
the
drains
if
they
wanted.
So
we
have
that
we
also
have
areas
on
secessionville
Road
in
Westchester
neighborhood.
I
You
know
when
you
come
up
around
the
corner.
Secessionville
I
have
pictures
and,
like
I
said,
I
have
a
list
as
well.
I'm,
not
sure
where
that
should
be
sent.
Should
that
be
sent
to
you,
Mr
chairman
or
I.
B
I
Yes,
sir,
yes,
sir,
and
then
we've
had
some
concerns
with
a
signal.
Point
Road
as
well
and
I,
know
I'm
gonna,
the
next
two
I'm
gonna,
say
I
think
Mr
Fountain
we've
talked
about.
There
is
a
an
ongoing,
maybe
project,
that's
slated
for
that
area.
That
might
not
be
this
year.
Maybe
next
is
what
you
told
me,
but
either
way
so
that
area
that's
around
the
Bohemian
Bowl
Signal
Point
Road.
You
know
where
the
PSD
offices
are
I,
believe
and
then
we
also
have
I
apologize.
I
It's
totally
slipping
my
mind
now,
I
know.
I
know
those
were
the
three
big
ones,
but
yeah
like
I
have
I.
Have
the
list
as
well
and
addresses
so
I'll
I'll
be
sure
to
get
that
over
to
you,
but
I
completely
agree
with
you,
councilmember
wearing
I.
Think
it's
just
the
Manpower
I
mean
those
ditches.
I
Of
course
you
know
I'm,
not
an
engineer.
Maybe
Mr
Fountain
can
answer
this
but,
like
I
said
I,
think
battery
Island
Drive
and
that
that
way
around
the
the
curve
up
around
just
grimbled
a
secession
Bill
Road.
You
know
that
we
just
have
those
those
ditches
that
just
are
completely
grown
over.
You
know,
I
mean
so
maybe
it's
just
a
Manpower
situation
over
there
that
if
we
can
get
those
dug
out,
we
might
have
a
little
relief.
But
thank
you
thank.
B
You
William,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
doing
a
due
diligence
in
your
area,
councilman
appeal
any
other
councilman.
Do
you
all
have
any
thoughts
or
input
on
that.
H
Well,
thank
you,
chairman,
Waring
and
I
think
that
Matt
will
agree
with
me
that
I've
had
no
problem
running
various
issues,
big
and
small,
and
everything
in
between
with
him
and
his
department,
and
you
know
him
and
Benji
and
everybody
else
over.
There
have
done
an
excellent
job
of
addressing.
You
know,
issues
throughout
District,
11
and
we've
got
plenty
of
projects
that
we
you
know
got.
You
know
little
plaques
on
the
wall
that
we've
completed.
H
We've
got
several
others
that
are
in
the
works
and
we're
doing
a
lot
of
good
stuff
right
now
and
every
time
I
receive
a
complaint
from
a
constituent
whether
it's
a
Facebook
message,
a
text,
an
email,
a
call
somebody
bumps
into
me,
while
I'm
walking
on
the
street
I,
send
it
up
to
Matt
and
I.
Tell
him!
H
You
know
just
let's
put
this
in
the
list
wherever
it
is
and
and
we
always
end
up
getting
to
it,
and
you
start
making
progress
chipping
away
at
these
issues,
one
at
a
time,
so
I
think
they're
doing
a
great
job.
I
want
to
Echo
that
sentiment
and
in
terms
of
funding
and
resources
and
things
of
that
nature.
H
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
the
storm
water
utility
fee.
I
think
we
need
to
look
at.
You
know
we
floated
a
a
drainage
Bond
several
years
ago,
long
before
my
time,
I
think
we
ought
to
maybe
look
at
that
again.
H
You
know,
especially
as
we're
talking
about
doing
some
additional.
You
know.
Nine-Figure
projects
on
the
peninsula,
making
sure
West,
Ashley,
James,
Island,
Johns,
Island
Etc
gets
a
fair
share
of
that.
We
do
it
all
together,
as
a
team
I
think
it's
going
to
be
very
important
because
you
don't
need
to
do
100
million
dollar
projects
in
our
area
right.
H
Bucks
in
each
of
our
districts
off
the
peninsula
can
go
in
enormous
way
and
and
we're
seeing
that
take
shape.
Currently
so
I
think
we
need
to
have
an
all
of
the
above
approach
on
these
issues
and
start
nip
it
away
at
the
problem
and
we'll
keep
making
great
progress.
H
Let
me
think
about
how
far
we've
come
in
the
last
five
six
years
or
so
I
mean
we're
really
in
a
way
just
getting
started
in
the
City
of
Charleston
I
know
it's
crazy
to
say,
you'd,
think
a
city,
the
you
know
can
you
know
located
where
we
were
where
we
are
would
have
been
at
this
Generations
ago,
but
we
really
weren't
for
for
a
long
period
of
our
history.
So
we've
made
great
strides
and
and
I
look
forward
to
what's
coming
in
the
future.
B
Thank
you,
councilman
GA
thank.
E
You
Mr,
chairman
and
I,
didn't
hear
qua
clearly,
but
Matt
are
you
advocating,
and
you
will
surely
get
my
support
for
this
if
you
are
to
increase
that
small
project
fun
significantly,
I,
don't
know
if
that's
in
our
budget
proposal,
but
you've
gotta
you've
got
enough
projects
out
there
to
justify
the
quote:
unquote:
small
small
projects
and
the
other
comment.
I'll
make
Mr
chairman
and
you
know,
I've
had
these
discussions
and
I
have
with
that
as
well.
E
The
other
issue
that
we're
facing
with
these
areas
that
are
on
high
risk
or
include
those
ditches
that
run
on
the
back
property
lines
that
are
shared
with
the
backyards
of
several
residents
in
West
Ashley.
E
And
what
is
what
has
happened,
or
what
has
not
happened
is
the
maintenance
of
those
back
lines
for
for
decades
to
the
point
that
it
might
not
have
been
wrestling
with
these
issues
over
at
Ashley,
Hall,
Manor
and
Charlestown
Estates
is
that
we
are
not
able
to
locate
our
easements
on
on
these
properties
and
we're
not
comfortable
that
we
in
fact
do
have
the
authority
to
go
back
and
and
clean
out
these
these
ditches,
and
that
takes
money
to
get
the
surveys
out
there.
E
But
then,
once
we
we
are
confident
we
we
have
the
ability
of
doing
that
legally
to
it's
a
different
kind
of
apparatus.
You
need
to
clean
those
ditches
out.
You
can't
take
a
backhoe
back
there
or
these
this
heavy
equipment
that
I
see
that
we're
using
down
in
Northbridge.
E
B
Okay,
Mr
Fountain
I'll.
Let
you
respond
so
before
you
do
I
think
the
actual
money
part
Mr
Fountain
can
tell
us
how
much
but
I
actually
believe
that
it
fixed
a
lot
of
these
gravity
flow
area.
I
think
you
need
between
10
15,
maybe
as
much
as
20
million
dollars.
When
you
go
between
West
Ashley,
James,
Island
and
John's
out.
That's
it's
not
a
one
or
two
of
three
or
four
million
dollar
deal
to
do
that
so
I.
B
Just
let
me
find
a
mechanism
to
be
able
to
do
that
in
a
Broadway,
Mr
fountain.
A
Mr
German
you're,
correct
I
mean
it.
Certainly
when
you
start
to
add
up
all
of
the
areas
we
could
do
small
scale
Improvement
projects
it
does
become
expensive,
even
though
each
individual
project
is
I
mean
the
main
challenge
right
now.
Honestly,
for
us
is
with
the
million
dollars
a
year.
A
You
know
we're
just
barely
kind
of
being
able
to
spend
that
per
year
right
now
with
Staffing
we're
pretty
short
on
Project
managers
at
the
moment.
So
that's
we.
We
certainly
could
add
more
Revenue
but
we'd
have
to
add.
We
don't
actually
have
to
add
new
project
manager
positions.
We
just
have
to
be
able
to
hire
for
the
existing
vacant
project
manager,
positions
we
have
in
order
to
be
able
to
spend
that
additional
funding.
So
that's
it
is
Staffing
right
now.
That
really
is
the
big
hang
up.
A
A
A
Specifically
yeah
I'm,
extremely
at
one
of
them,
has
been
open
for
nine
months.
The
other
one
was
actually
just
a
gentleman
who's
resigning
this
month,
so
it'll
become
open
in
the
next
week
or
so.
Okay,.
B
Okay,
good
and
and
and
the
the
salary
at
which
we
can
attract
people
is
what,
in
that
position.
A
So
it's
a
good
question:
Mr
chairman,
there's
different,
there's,
there's
different
experience,
Pathways
similar
to
many
professions
that
have
different
correlating
salary
amounts
for
engineers
with
licensing
right
now
you
are
typically
looking
somewhere
between
you
know.
90
to
110
is
about
where
the
the
industry
is
sitting.
That's
not
the
highest
pain,
certainly,
but
it's
competitive
enough
to
be
attracting
quality
candidates
for
a
public
sector
position
where
people
want
to
kind
of
serve
the
public.
Okay,.
B
And
the
thing
position
that
I
don't
want
us
to
be
in
the
mail,
all
13
council
members.
If
we
ought
to
advertisement
at
85
000
we're
not
going
to
really
get
anything
and
12
months
later
We've.
You
know
we
haven't,
given
you
the
tools
of
ammunition,
the
truly
recruit
effectively
and
I,
see
that
as
being
the
man
and
just
Council,
appropriate
okay,
having
a
position
open
for
on
another
conversation,
I
I
think
it
was
Recreation
and
I
budget
add-on
committee
I
think
they
were
looking
for
a
plumber
for
three
years.
B
A
Only
other
comment
I'd
make
Mr
chairman
and
it's
an
interesting
one
that
has
certainly
come
up
in
this
committee.
A
number
of
times
is
that,
right
now
we
focus
our
project
efforts
and
our
maintenance
efforts
on
City
jurisdiction
streets,
but
we've
worked
pretty
closely
with
the
county,
trying
to
do
some
in
the
time
James
Island,
actually
more
recently
trying
to
do
some
collaborative
Project
work
where
we
have
those
intersecting
jurisdictions,
the
one
area.
A
We
we
don't
do
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
on
other
than
our
larger
capital
projects
where
we
are
a
partner
is
with
Dot
and
councilman.
Parker
mentioned
a
number
of
streets
that
are
DOT
streets.
We
have
not
yet
gotten
to
where
you
know
we're
taking
on
maintenance,
Rehabilitation
or
other
activities.
Within
those
roadways
and
Dot,
certainly
they've
been
a
good
partner.
Lately
they've
the
last
few
years,
they've
worked
with
our
priorities
with
the
Staffing
that
they
have
it's
a
very
different
approach
than
they've
had
historically
I.
A
Think
we've
built
a
really
good
relationship,
especially
with
large
capital
projects.
They've
been
a
great
partner
on
encroaching,
permitting
and
work
within
those
corridors,
but
that
is
a
you
know.
We're
talking
about
our
budgeting,
we
generally
don't
project
or
budget
out
for
that
type
of
work.
We
do
generally
focus
on
the
the
city
streets
and
then
you
know
work
with
DOT
to
prioritize
areas
where
we
need
to,
but
that
that
is
a
a
separate
challenge
that
I
think
we're
all
familiar
with.
Okay,.
B
What
about
these
outfalls,
in
particular
the
one
Office
Savannah
highway?
That
goes
underneath
the
greenway,
and
then
you
know
eventually
out
to
the
Stoneham.
Where
are
we
on
on
that
and
councilman
Park
I,
come
to
you
right
after
Mr
Fountain
responds.
A
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question,
Mr
chairman,
so
we
had,
we
had
worked
for
the
last
roughly
five
years
with
between
the
county,
the
city
DHEC,
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers,
and
actually
a
number
of
other
municipalities
and
counties
along
the
the
coastal
communities
trying
to
find
a
way
to
work
through
the
permitting
process
more
efficiently
for
outfall
cleaning.
Traditionally,
it's
looked
at
as
like
a
dredging
activity
and
it's
a
major
major
permanent
effort
to
go
through
it.
That
generally
takes
a
couple
of
years.
B
A
For
the
permit
that
DHEC
and
the
Army
Corps
did
come
out
at
the
beginning
of
this
year,
or
early
this
year,
I
should
say
with
a
new
what
they
call
a
regional
permit.
It's
not
quite
a
nationwide
because
it's
focused
in
the
area,
but
it's
similar
to
a
Nationwide
permit
where
it's
supposed
to
have
a
simplified
application
process.
We've
been
going
back
and
forth
with
them
for
kind
of
an
education
process
on
how
to
do
that.
A
We've
actually
been
just
talking
with
consultants
over
the
last
couple
of
months
to
put
together
our
first
template.
The
county
is
also
doing
the
same
thing
with
some
Consultants
put
together
their
first
template
approach.
So
we're
very
optimistic
that
starting
this
fall,
we
will
be
in
a
much
smoother
pathway
towards
being
able
to
go
back
and
re-establish
a
lot
of
these
outfalls.
A
Of
course,
it
is
relatively
expensive
work
at
the
moment
with
Hydra
excavation,
which
is
why
we've
you
know,
looked
to
try
to
staff
up
our
Factory
truck
crews
as
well.
But
it
is
something
that
has
a
huge
impact
on
certain
neighborhoods.
When
those
channels
become
impacted
and
the
water
can't
drain
you
can
you
can
clean
all
the
ditches
you
want
or
the
pipes
you
want,
but
if
the
water
can't
get
out
that
last
pipe
or
that
last
Stitch
into
the
marsh
it'll
back
up
and
cause
real
problems
and.
B
I,
don't
think
we
ought
to
suffer
in
silence
anymore,
but
we
have
a
storm
potentially
bearing
down
on
us
right
now.
You
would
think
a
city,
a
peninsula
City
would
have
all
out
forms
open,
and
we
can't
do
that
because
of
obviously
these
governmental
bodies
I
actually
think
we
ought
to
let
the
people
know
that's
necessary.
I
think
we
need
to
go
to
court.
B
I
mean
the
idea
that
one
of
the
problems
with
ESO
forest
and
West
Oak
Forest
in
that
area,
and
thank
you
for
having
your
men
out
there
last
week
by
the
way.
So
some
of
those
ditches
are
open.
I
watch
the
water
flowing,
but
it
backs
up
from
that
same
main
experience
area
between
the
church
and
the
Bikeway
over
there
off
of
Savannah
highway
underneath
Savannah.
It's
a
domino
effect
into
those
neighborhoods
which
eventually
back
up
into
some
people's
homes
over
there
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you're
right.
B
If
these
outfalls
aren't
there
when
hurricanes
come,
if
we
can't
open
the
dog
on
out
Falls,
then
what's
the
justification
for
them
saying
no
and
they
need
to
be
put
on
the
spot.
None
of
us
going
back
and
telling
neighbors
we
gotta,
we
got
a
outfall,
that's
50
of
capacity,
and
they
won't
let
us
clean
it.
I
think
we
ought
to
push
the
envelope
on
it.
If
they
tell
us,
no,
that's
one
thing
that
we
put
forth
our
best
efforts
for
our
people
like
Miss
Parker.
I
Yes,
Mr
chairman,
thank
you,
sir,
so
and
thank
you
Mr
Fountain.
So,
yes,
that
is
exactly
you
know
why
I'm
kind
of
pushing
for
these.
You
know
we
have
an
intergovernmental
meeting
coming
up.
I
mean
this
is
exactly
why
these
entities,
especially
on
James
Island,
need
to
be
in
the
same
room
having
these
conversations
right.
So
we
can
make
sure
that
if
it's
a,
if
you
know
we
on
the
street,
they
own
the
ditch.
Someone
owns
the
outfall.
You
know
because
a
lot
of
meetings
I'm
in
I
mean
battery
island
is
one
example.
I
You
know
everybody's
pointing
the
finger
at
me,
the
city
and
then
maybe
Signal
Point
is
a
different
situation,
but
so
this
is
why
I
really
am
pushing
for
that.
You
know
we
have
that
James,
Island,
intergovernmental
and
you
know,
I'd
appreciate
it
too.
You
know,
if
that's
the
case
on
some
of
these
issues.
You
know
some
of
the
let's
say
items
on
my
list.
I
You
know
if,
if
in
particular,
Mr
Fountain,
you
know
you
specify
that
there
may
be
some
that
you
know
I
mean
I,
think
someone
from
the
county
I
can't
think
of
his
name.
Right
now,
I'm
sorry
again
I'm
not
in
front
of
my
computer,
but
he
is
looking
for
updates
on
some
of
these
projects
and
I.
Think
if
we
can
continue,
can
everyone
still
hear
me
sure.
B
I
Hear
you,
okay,
sorry
I
just
have
some
feedback,
so
if
we
can
just
Supply
some
up-to-date
information
and
just
make
sure
that
we're
giving
as
much
as
we
can
to
them
and
so
that
I
can
push
or
you
know
make
sure
that
whatever
we
need
them
to
do,
you
know
I
can
do
that.
But
I
do
you
know
I
just
really
encourage
you.
You
know
help
me
help
you.
You
know.
I
Let
me
know
what
I
need
to
tell
the
county
or
the
state
or
dot
whoever
you
know,
because
I'm
I'm
really
working
hard
and
in
meeting
with
these
individuals
and
and
seeing
what
we
can
do
you
know,
and
not
just
for
James
Island
but
learning
you
know
how
to
help
the
rest
of
the
city
as
well.
I
But
so
so
please,
let
me
know
you
know
those
are,
if
you
know
of
specifics
or
make
sure
that
you're,
following
up
with
the
county
and
and
again
I
encourage
the
James
Island
intergovernmental
is
a
great
way
to
sort
of
spread.
The
word
to
all
these
municipalities.
So
thank
you.
B
Okay,
any
last
comments
in
that
Mr
Mayor
any
input
after
kind
of
hearing
some
of
what
we
had
to
say.
G
Yeah,
thank
you,
councilmember
Mr,
chairman
for
for
bringing
this
to
the
committee
and
welcome
and
listening
to
everyone's
comments,
as
as
I've
mentioned,
I
think
the
highest
priority,
of
course,
would
be
a
situation
of
life,
but
next
would
be
protecting
people's
property,
particularly
when
water
gets
in
someone's
home
and
I
know.
You
mentioned
some
neighborhoods
here
where
that
has
happened,
but
the
the
most
more
specific
we
can
be
down
to
the
address
and
the
owner,
so
that
Matt
and
our
team
can
can
can
meet
with
individual
owners
to
to
help
address.
G
Whatever
is.
Is
it
the
root
cause
that
that's
most
helpful
and
as
we've
discovered?
Sometimes
that's
that's
the
case
as
council
member
shade
pointed
out
that
we
we
don't
have
the
easements
to
to
do
the
cleaning
and
and
council
member
apparel
I'll
tackle
that
one
directly
over
in
my
my
neighborhood
in
the
Crescent
nearby
to
get
some
of
those
easements
in
place.
G
So
the
more
specific
we
can
get-
and
you
know,
go
after
those
problem
areas
and
specific
areas,
home
home,
addresses
the
better
I
had
written
down
how
the
design
of
our
stormwater
systems
matter
and
boy
have.
We
seen
that
in
the
city
I
think
often
of
how
we
never
get
many
complaints
from
from
Daniel
Island,
because
they
designed
the
system
yeah.
G
Modern
today's
specifications-
and
we
we've
got
this
hodgepodge
out
there
all
over
the
city-
areas
that
were
you
know,
might
have
been
in
the
originally
in
the
city
200
years
ago
or
more
and
then
areas
that
got
built
that
we
annexed
and
didn't
have
to
comply
with
the
city
requirements
at
the
time.
So
we
all
recognize
that,
but
there
there's
a
real
hodgepodge
and
sometimes
you're
right,
Mr
chairman
the
pipes
aren't
big
enough.
They
need
to
be
sized
and
we
have
to
prioritize
those.
G
Those
little
projects
says
the
impact
that
they
can
have
to
help
our
citizens
to
help
the
most
for,
for
the
best
bang
for
our
buck
and
and
I
think
we,
we
really
have
been
doing
that
over
a
few
years
and
we've
been
able
to
fund
some
of
those
small
small
projects.
We
added
extra
million
dollars,
I
believe
this
past
year
with
ARCA
funds
to
to
be
able
to
do
that.
G
But
getting
that
design
right
in
the
first
place
is
is,
is
critical
and
now
that
we
have
updated
stormwater
requirements
both
for
new
development
and
Redevelopment
I
I
think
that's,
that's
an
important
part
of
the
puzzle
and
I'll
commend
Matt
and
his
stormwater
team,
even
though
you
know
we're
still
years
away
from
doing
the
entire
inventory
of
ditches
in
the
whole
system,
because
we
all
admit
that
for
decades
they
they
weren't
being
serviced
at
all
and
we
started
a
a
thoughtful
comprehensive
plan.
G
I
forget
how
many
miles
and
miles
Matt
has
reported
on
that
to
us
before,
but
I
would
just
say
he
incorrect
me
if
I'm
wrong,
Matt,
that
we
did
prioritize
those
neighborhoods
and
ditches
that
were
those
that
had
known
flooding
in
them
and
that
perhaps
if
we
are
continuing
to
get
reports
that
we
ought
to
work
into
that
long-term
schedule
to
even
though
it
may
take
a
little
longer
to
get
to
some
of
the
neighborhoods
that
aren't
flooding
to
to
make
sure
that
we
come
back
around.
G
You
know
on
a
more
frequent
basis
to
those
areas
of
known
flooding
and
I.
Think
you
do
something
like
that,
but
if
not,
we
certainly
should
be
thinking
about
it.
B
You
know
thank
you,
Mr
may
I
actually
think
we
need
to
have
two
categories
categories
where
we
need
easements,
but
the
areas
that
we
do
have
easements-
those
are
the
ones
I
think
most
can
have
the
most
immediate
after
impact
and
there's
no
doubt
about
it.
We've
been
dealt
with
bad
hand
for
decades,
but
you
know
we.
B
We
ran
for
the
seats
down
for
to
go
above
and
beyond.
People
want
water
out.
We
got
to
find
a
way,
just
like
councilmember
Dallas
said
to
get
the
revenue
to
get
it
done.
Listen,
it's
been
a
good
conversation.
I
appreciate
everybody's
input,
but
again
on
the
other
side
need
action
steps,
so
those
addresses
in
particular
I,
think
addresses
will
help
and
those
areas
that
we
need
to
secure
easements
in.
We
need
to
get
a
strategy
to
move
forward
on
that
as
well.
B
B
There
any
time
on
that,
when
that's
supposed
to
be
I,
guess
ready
for
the
pumps.
A
So
the
the
gravity
component
of
that
system,
Mr
chairman,
should
be
functioning
by
the
end
of
the
year,
which
will
significantly
improve
drainage
along
the
whole
second
Clark
Corridor
The,
Hub,
Station
construction
will
start
next
year
following
that
completion
of
the
gravity
system
and
continue
really
into
in
through
2024
and
probably
very
early
2025,
with
the
delivery
time
on
the
pumps
and
the
the
diesel
engines.
Basically,
the
power
of
the
pumps
right.
B
Listen
thanks
a
lot
if
you
know
any
final
comments
by
acclimation,
We
Stand,
adjourned.