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From YouTube: Planning Board Special Meeting of 7-26-23
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City of Chelsea
B
B
If
you
have
at
least
four
acres
in
that
district,
and
what
that
does
is
allows
for
these
huge
development
on
a
large
scale
so
that
you
can
completely
reduce
holistic
manner.
Process
is
still
the
same.
You
can
still
get
the
application.
It'll
come
to
me
and
including
people
with
us
and
I'll,
be
over
the
whole
player
competing,
send
it
to
you
for
the
recommendation
and
a
major
site
plan,
and
then
I
go
back
to
the
zba
luncheon.
B
F
Good
evening,
everybody
with
the
division
of
capital,
asset
management
and
maintenance
at
the
state
I'm,
the
director
of
public
private
development
there
and
before
Penrose,
gives
their
presentation
this
evening.
I
wanted
to
set
the
table
a
little
bit
about
what
the
Commonwealth
is
up
to
so
historically,
as
I'm
sure
you
all
know,
the
Veterans
Home
campus
has
had
both
the
Quigley
building,
which
is
a
long-term
care
facility
and.
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F
F
F
over
at
the
domiciliary
campus,
which
Penrose
is
going
to
speak
about
in
more
detail
this
evening.
We're
really
excited
to
be
advancing
the
vision
for
the
Redevelopment
of
a
historic
and
storied
campus
that
ensures
that
all
existing
veteran
residents
will
have
access
to
high
quality
housing
and
services.
While
we
continue
to
serve
a
changing
veteran
population
for
this
Redevelopment,
the
Commonwealth
has.
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Out
a
public-private
partnership
to
renovate
the
buildings
into
affordable
housing
and
to
have
that
partner,
manage
the
housing
and
provide
services
when
dcam
seeks
out
a
Redevelopment
partner
for
a
project
like
this,
we
look
to
have
that
partner,
engage
in
the
municipal
programming
process.
So
that's
why
they've
never
seen
it
together.
These
two
projects,
the
CLC
and
the
domicilian
Redevelopment-
will
serve
as
a
model
for
dignified
Housing.
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G
Then
so
today
we
brought
everyone
on
the
top
row
or
everyone
stays
here.
So
Charlie
and
myself
are
from
Penrose
we're
a
multi-family
developer.
We
do
these
things
from
affordable
housing,
Across
the
Nation
and
we've
done
this
for
50
years,
and
we've
done
veterans
housing
a
lot
so
I
have
some
pictures
of
some
projects
that
we've
done,
that
southern
Council.
We
have
our.
G
Campus,
we
need
to
make
sure
we
have
a
service
provider,
that
knows
the
veterans
community
and
they
operate
a
number
of
Veteran,
affordable
housing
projects
across
the
state
and
they
have
already
started
meeting
with
residents
in
small
groups,
understand
the
need
to
get
to
know
the
residents
kind
of
on
a
more
intimate
basis.
So
this
is
our
team,
and
our
role
take
today,
as
John
mentioned,
is
to
kind
of
describe
the
project
so
that
the
board
can
become
the
more
familiar
with
us
or
according
to
engineer.
G
G
Is
even
more
meaningful,
so
I
want
to
start
off
with
our
promise,
and
this
is
something
that
we
have
showed
to
the
veterans.
Every
time
we
go
to
a
town
hall
at
the
veterans
home,
which
is
every
two
to
three
months.
We
tell
them
that
our
goal
is
to
make
is
committed
to
ensuring
that
all
the
residents
don't
have
a
place
as
a
veterans
home
whether
it
be
right
now
during
the
Redevelopment.
C
G
G
C
G
To
ensure
that
all
existing
residents
stay
on
site
throughout
the
Redevelopment,
we're
going
to
renovate
the
existing
domiciliary
buildings,
which
don't
most
of
them,
don't
have
individual
bathrooms
and
kitchens
into
Apartments
Studios
one
bedrooms
and
some
two
bedrooms
that
have
individual
Living
Spaces
individual
kitchens,
individual
bathrooms.
We.
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Campus
into
America,
Arts,
Center
and
then
going
down
Fifth
Avenue
on
this
right
is
the
veteran
Resource
Center,
which
is
the
One-Stop
shop.
That
I
was
finishing
for
services
going
farther
down.
The
common
dance
is
where
we
envision
our
management
functions
to
sit
where
our
full-time
property
manager,
probably
assistant,
comedy
manager
and
staff,
will
will
have
their
operations
there
and
then
next
to
it
is
a
victory
garden,
because
we
have
heard
every
time
we're
on
campus.
G
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First
Avenue,
with
the
exception
of
the
Veterans
Museum
and
art
center,
because
that's
the
power
plant
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
services
to
the
rest
of
the
site
are
maintained
until
all
the
way
at
the
end,
because
there
will
be
residents
living
on
campus.
Currently
sergeants
and
laundry
is
bacon.
So
that's
why
we
prioritize
the
buildings
are
north
of
Crest,
Avenue
and.
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G
Hopefully,
if
they
move
into
Kettle,
then
then
meet
the
likelihood
of
then
that
would
make
the
likelihood
of
something
so
the
state
will
the
educational
relocation
comes
on
to
help
walk
lessons
through
all
of
this
and
help
them
move
and
cause
the
moving
will
be
covered
by
on
the
stage
so
phase
one
will
be
these
buildings
north
of
press.
That
phase
two
is
the
John
Adams
Building,
as
well
as
a
new
building
phase
three
in
the
townhouses
in
Sullivan
and
the
baseboards
Pebble
and
the
better
resources
are
in
the.
C
C
G
G
So
the
total
number
of
units
proposed
is
241,
primarily
Studios
and
one
bedrooms,
but
some
two
bedrooms,
and
even
one
Community
bedroom
that
were
able
to
fit
in
the
common
dots
because
the
of
the
configuration,
because
it's
a
historic
Rehabilitation,
we
have
to
keep
the
a
lot
of
walking
through
walls.
We
can't
demolish.
We
have
to
keep
the
sizes
of
certain
rooms,
so
that
meant
that
we
were.
G
M
Thank
you,
so
architecture
on
this
campus
is
limited.
The
architecture
that
is
new
on
this
campus
is
limited.
The
majority
of
the
building
are
not
going
to
be
the
more
our
community
meeting
and
restored
to
the
exception
to
one
building
as
Carmen
I
mentioned,
but
when
we
come
in
and
rehabilitate
historic
buildings
like
these
accessibilities
first
thing
in
online,
because
the
buildings
currently
are
not
accessible,
and
this
is
something
very
high
from
the
Veterans
as
well
as
matters.
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So
our
interventions
are
not
only
to
add
units,
but
also
sometimes
to
connect
buildings
so
that
the
new
building
acts
as
an
entrance
as
a
way
to
serve
success
in
an
accessible
way.
The
non-accessible
current
levels
so
I
want
to
start
with
our
first
Intervention,
which
is
the
connector
building.
It's
it's
a
small
building
with.
M
22
units,
but
it
serves,
in
fact
the
laundry
and
the
volumes,
so
these
arrows
here
indicate
the
building
entrances.
So
as
we
look
at
the
northern
part
of
brass
Avenue,
the
connector
building
becomes
the
point
of
entry
in
for
these
three
buildings.
It
will
have
the
elevators
they'll
have
a
means
of
egress
and
it
will
serve
as
like
the
the
mail
room
and
the
entrance
to
this
one
of
the
games.
M
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M
M
M
Along
the
lower
end
of
the
campus,
and
that's
that
this
is
something
that
the
end
of
summit
is
how
you
turn
tool
up
and
get
to
the
campus,
and
this
is
the
entrance
to
the
rest,
Avenue
Sergeant,
building
on
the
right-hand
side,
the
animated
Plaza
cafe
around
here
and
then
the
Sullivan
building,
though
not
much,
has
changing
the
buildings
that
you
see
here.
Please
note
the
the
Green
Landscape
and
the
sidewalk
and
the
creation
of
the
place
that
apartment
I
mentioned
initially
was
our
focused.
M
P
P
So
in
our
research
for
the
site
we
uncovered
some
of
these.
We
discovered
some
of
these
photos
and
drawings
and
etchings
from
the
mid
19th
century
early
to
mid
20th
century,
the
historic
Soldiers
Home
campus
and
what
what
is
apparent
to
us
Chelsea
was
a
very
different
place.
This
site
is
a
very
different
place.
P
The
overall
psych
times
the
previous
discussed,
but
the
the
main
goal
here
as
far
as
the
outdoor
landscape
spaces
are
concerned,
is
to
provide
our
veterans
a
variety
of
different
outdoor
spaces
they're.
Currently,
if
I
had
to
make
a
comment
on
the
existing
conditions
right
now,
it
feels
very
much
like
a
one
or
two
note:
Outdoor
Experience
there's
the
street,
which
is
completely
much
feels
like
Authority,
fair
and
long
and
not
much
else.
So
our
goal
is
really
to
add
more
notes
to
that
experience
to
create
Plaza
conditions
outside
the
cafe
new
Cafe,
for
example.
P
Victory
Gardens
mentioned
before
involved,
have
some
quiet
space,
Adam's
Courtyard
and
the
John
Adams
Building
serves
mostly
senior
veterans.
That
is
more
of
a
quiet
Courtyard
for
those
restaurants,
Courtyard,
which
is
probably
more
active
for
residents
from
the
floor,
outdoor
Gatherings
and
seedlings,
and
then,
as
mentioned
previously,
a
community
play
area
which
is
open
not
only
to
the
neighborhood
but
also
potentially
for
veterans
with
families
and
their
children.
P
P
C
P
P
The
diagram
showing
these
outdoor
spaces
now
and
some
of
these
are
programmed
and
what's
interesting-
is
that
perhaps
our
largest
open
space
is
over
at
a
future
set
of
the
East
parcel
group,
but
because
it
was
smoking,
it
is
not.
It's
not
used
very
much
it's
it's
and
these
other
spaces
are
outside
television.
P
P
When
it
comes
to
circulation,
this
is
where
prioritizing
the
people
comes
into
play
very
much
around
this
part
of
Campus.
It's
a
two-way
street,
a
very
little
sidewalk
connecting
to
the
neighbors
Summit
and
the
Neighbors
on
Hillside.
In
fact,
you
cannot
go
around
this
part
of
the
campus,
it's
very
much
cut
off
in
terms
of
pedestrian
circulation,
and
not
only
that,
but
by
having
this
two-way
traffic
that
when
that
car
gets
that
much
more
space,
and
it
feels
more
like
a
thoroughfare
and
less
like
a
pedestrian
friend
on
the
street.
P
Also
go
site
ad,
especially
on
this
side
by
the
neighbors.
These
two-way
and
two
sides
of
parking
to
add
the
sidewalk
we
have
to
we
would
have
to
just
the
dimensions
are
so
tight
that
we
have
to
remove
one
side
of
parking
and
One
Direction
of
travel
and
we'll
get
to
the
street
sessions.
To
describe
how
tight
that
that
street
is.
P
P
Dimensionally
needs
the
interesting
condition
above,
and
the
proposed
Edition
below
this
proposition
is
at
that
race
Crossing
at
that
cafe,
Plaza.
So
it's
slightly
unusual
or
not
a
typical
section,
but
we
have
in
one
tip
of
the
one
after
this,
but
to
describe
press
Ave,
it's
fairly
narrow
right
now,
and
the
sidewalk
is
pretty
minimal
at
the
rage
process.
P
Of
course,
it's
a
different
condition
where
the
investment
experience
spans,
with
or
across
press
that,
but
for
the
more
typical
student
section,
just
a
little
further
down
across
that
again
laundry
to
our
right
headquarters
and
supplements
who
are
left
just
to
show
you
right.
This
describes
how
tight
the
sidewalk
is,
especially
in
the
portable
trees.
This
tree
is
managed
to
survive,
but
it's
atypical.
P
Similar
Dimensions
just
down
in
front
of
the
street
at
this
particular
section
where
laundry
is
extremely
close
to
the
street.
It's
almost
right
on
top
of
that
and
other
buildings
are
not
as
close,
but
we
want
to
illustrate
this
condition
to
show
a
special
tight
condition
to
create
space
for
trees
and
for
people
you're
narrowing
the
road
down,
and
we
still
keeping
two
sides.
Apart
of
traffic.
P
Going
down
around
the
site
on
Hillside
Ave
with
the
neighbors
John
Adams
in
the
background,
the
feeling
on
that
from
the
neighbor's
perspective,
with
the
law
of
the
chain
of
defense,
is
that
very
much.
This
campus
is
removed,
it's
detached
from
The
Suite,
but
it's
probably
intentionally
so,
but
this
street
also
happens
to
be
two-way,
with
two
sides
of
parking
again
very
narrow.
P
Looking
at
a
section
we're
dealing
with
less
than
30
feet.
Basically,
wall
curve,
we're
all
that
traffic
and
all
that
parking.
When
we
add
a
sidewalk
to
create
more
space
for
people
to
circulate
around
this
part
of
Campus,
we
would
move
one
side
of
the
parking
in
one
way
of
travel.
Industry
and
hope
will
also
help
calm
history
as
well.
P
P
To
the
existing
condition,
right
now
again
to
create
a
sidewalk
in
this
particular
area,
it
feels
like
we're
not
removing
one
lane,
removing
one
thing,
of
course,
sorry
one
side
of
the
apartment
to
fit
in
sidewalk,
and
this
in
this
particular
section.
This
is
the
play
area
that
you
mentioned,
that
I
mentioned
earlier
for
not
only
Progressive
but
the
neighbors,
but
also
off
the
pages.
The
Sullivan,
which
is
closer
to
the
summary.
I
I
Is
always
big,
it's
huge
in
Chelsea
and
it
is
one
of
the
biggest
complaints
people
have
about
a
lot
of
the
new
developments
going
in
not
having
you
know,
parking
and
I'm.
Just
you
know,
Imagining
the
neighborhood
being
very
unhappy
at
realizing
they're
going
to
lose
a
great
deal
of
on-street
parking.
So
again
how
many
spaces
are
you
talking
about
removing
terms.
P
Of
the
on-stream
parking
that
we're
proposing
to
remove
these
all
on
website
and
all
on
the
campus
side
of
the
inside
app,
there
are
many
different
things
happening
on
this
side
of
Hillside.
There's
facilities,
hydrants
walls,
but
by
doing
a
wealth
account
it's
about
30
on
street
parking
here
in
terms
of
the
off
Street
Department,
we're
adding
Austrian
parking
by
adding
I,
don't
think
I
just
mentioned,
but
we're
adding
a
parking
deck
on
rear
side
of
this
part
of
the.
G
G
and
of
the
current
residents
that
live
there.
There's
a
lot
of
ratio
of
half
of
residents,
have
cars
and
half
dollars,
so
I'll
start
with
the
off
street
parking
and
then
talk
about
all
street
parking
talk
about
the
strategies
that
we've
discussed
with
so
staff
to
address
that
position.
So
in
terms
of
off-street
parking,
we're
proposing,
121
oxygen
pumping
includes
the
parking
deck,
the
service
block
and
the
dates
and
response
behind,
and
that's
about
a
0.5
ratio
which
matches
the
current
demand
from
the
residence.
G
Our
understanding
is
that
there
are
actually
a
lot
of
other
things
right
now
in
the
park
on
the
street
because
of
accessibility
is
getting
back
and
living
in
Sullivan.
It's
quite
difficult,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
current
residents
at
the
department
of
the
street
had
with
the
Press
Avenue
on
street
parking,
and
the
11th
space
is
right,
have
a
thing
that
most
likely
our
residents
will
be
the
ones
of
parking
here,
that's
another
75
spaces,
and
that
would
bring
us
to
hear
a
point.
G
Eight
two
ratio-
and
we
had
conversations
with
this
Commonwealth
about
this
area-
is
not
part
of
the
least
area
within
the
99
areas
of
the
Commonwealth.
This
air
is
not
part
of
this
area,
but
we
are
talking
with
decaf
about
potentially
licensing
licensing,
this
area
for
parking,
for
example,
to
help
alleviate
that,
and
if
we
were
to
count
these
spaces,
that
would
bring
us
to
a
point:
eight
ratio.
C
G
Q
I
know
that
you
know
the
server
needs
to
take
apart
away,
but
keep
in
mind,
there's
only
housing
that
this
happens
just
on
one
side,
and
you
know
we
there's
not
a
lot
of
options
here,
because
you
know
we
really
need
to
put
it
I
mean
I,
mean
I.
Think
that
all
three
we've
got
to
have
a
sidewalk
I
mean
we
have
to
we
have
to.
We
have
to
highlight
pedestrians
and
make
it
safe
for
them.
Otherwise
it's
very
dangerous,
dangerous
Condition.
It's.
I
Q
A
F
A
Q
P
A
P
A
D
To
incorporate
some
similar
strategies
before
and
particular
sites,
you
know
it's
a
lot
of
control.
Welcome
everyone
out
to
reduce
the
rate
of
runoff
and
volume.
You
know
from
each
of
the
sites
and
impacting
any
of
abundance.
You
know,
and
then
we
propose
to
collect
that
water
and
you
know
reach
out
into
the
ground,
and
otherwise
you
know
that's
that
and
the
hopeful
that
we've
got
a
discharge
to
the
city's
funding
system
that
surrounds
the
the
campus
and
as
mentioned
up
here,
you
know
we
in
Tennessee
is
fire
retention.
D
Or
what
have
you
there's
a
lot
cleaner
and
I'm
doing
this
right
now,
which
really
is
not
because
it's
not
really
political
control
in
the
water,
and
it
was
the
remote
controls,
the
four
kitchens
the
same
slopes
and
to
prevent
any
around
each,
and
so
the
only
thing
that
I
was
discuss
that
about
last
week
is
joining
him.
Information,
a
supervised
substitutions
and
the
tree
filter
boxes
that
the
city
has
been
using
for
a
number
of
years.
Now.
D
Build
the
properties
otherwise
we're
not
because
the
streets
are
public,
runaways,
we're
not
proposing
any
storm
Water
Production
systems,
then
there
will
connect
to
them
for
our
mobile
phone
with
just
pipes,
but
we're
not
proposing
to
have
any
dedicated
instructions
to
collectible
how
to
store
it,
recharge
it
and
then
discharge
it.
Okay,
second,.
K
Idea
what
about
if
you
eliminate
some
of
the
trees
and
put
in
flower
boxes
in
all
of
your
buildings,
so
that
the
veterans
can
maintain
their
own
flower
boxes?
They,
like
the
garden
of
course
you
know.
So
if
you
put
less
trees
and
and
then
put
them
in
flower
boxes
on
all
the
buildings,
you
would
get
the
color
and
what
I
think
it
was
important.
But
if
you
have
a
cafe,
you
have
deliveries,
you
have.
K
O
C
K
C
K
H
K
K
K
Q
K
C
J
C
J
G
K
K
I
I,
it's
just
I.
Just
can't
imagine,
because
if
it's
a
disaster,
what
do
you
have
and
I
actually
think
it
would
be
fun
to
put
the
flower
boxes
up
because
I
think
it
would
add
a
lot
of
it
would
tie
all
the
buildings
together.
I
think
it
would
be
a
really
funny
little
thing:
I,
don't
know
how
to
start.
C
E
C
G
D
M
G
K
G
D
Q
Understand
I,
understand,
I,
think
we're
really
trying
to
think
we're
trying
to
bring
this
back
to
the
sort
of
the
historical
nature
of
it
and
really
making
a
warm
and
friendly
place.
We
go
up
there
now
it's
hard,
it's
very
and
so
like
they
have
these
trees.
They
have
this.
This
new
calming
effect
to
have
have
the
one
leg.
Q
C
Q
Whole
thing,
but
I
think
the
idea
of
having
some
kind
of
a
toddler
space
up
here
does
make.
A
lot
of
sense
is
if
there
are
families
that
are
here
to
your
point,
they're
trying
to
come
all
the
way
here,
we
should
look
hard.
Putting
a
like
a
top
bot
in
here.
I
think
that
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
session.
Q
I
can't
I
mean
because
really
like-
and
this
is
what
this
is
actually
coming
to
us,
because
you
know
sometimes
we
have
kind
of
blinders
on
about
what
we're.
What
we're
doing
the
whole
concept
of
this
was
not
to
create
a
playground
for
kids,
and
the
area
really
was
to
create
a
playground
for
the
community
and
for
everyone.
So
if
there
are
families.
Q
A
A
A
Q
M
Back
to
them
the
RFP,
this
is
where
we
started,
because
we
did
identify
that
this
is
a
wall.
The
buildings
are
very
similar
of
the
same
height
and
there
is
so
much
happening
views
and
some
coming
of
this
side
of
the
hill.
This
is
how
we
started
proposing
this
to
the
historic
growth
and
they
were
not
on
board.
We
wanted
to
open
passage
away
across
to
really
connect
press
with
the
neighborhood.
It
is
a
very
linear
campus.
It
is,
but
so
far
we
have
to
be
able
to
to
do
that.
First,
foreign.
M
So
right
now
this
is
there's
a
there's,
an
eight
foot
high.
This
is
the
incinerator.
It's
eight
foot
six
feet
high,
you
know
through
our
building
and
that's
what
we
were
able
to
punch
all
through
this,
removing
it
completely
and
really
open
at
least
this
side
of
the
neighborhood
this
side
and
creating
that
velocity
and
I.
Don't
think
we
said
it
enough.
Maybe
at
the
beginning
the
intent
is
not
to
create
only
a
place
where
veterans
are
not
going
to
be
isolated.
It's
a
place
where
the
community
wants
it
right.
Q
It's
the
access
that
really
creates
to
get
to
the
power
plant
which
we
talked
about
earlier.
This
is
going
to
be
the
Art,
Center
and
museum,
so
we're
going
to
take
that
power
Plantation,
including
space,
to
be
able
to
access
it
through
here,
which
is
you
know
after
the
after
the
streetscape?
That's
why
the
second
kind
of
those
kind
of
depends
each
show.
P
G
M
The
streets
and
the
spaces-
this
is
a
cafe
and
a
plaza.
It
will
be,
there's
no
gains.
There's
no
offenses.
It's
open
public
same
thing
that
this
ironing,
though
it's
used
by
the
veterans,
and
it
is
going
to
be
out
there
for
people
to
also
walk
around
and
experience
I
mean.
We
all
believe
that
when
you
have
more
activity
on
the
street,
it's
actually
safer
for
those
who
live
in
Wisconsin
and
that's
part
of
making
the
place
actually
continuously
day
and
night.
Everyone.
This
is
an
open
courtyard
events.
M
G
These
are
going
to
be
apartments
that
I
lived
in,
and
inside
it's
going
to
be
studio,
is
one
bedrooms
and
occasionally
a
two
bedrooms.
So
interior
is
all
residential
space.
The
only
spaces
that
are
residential
is
the
museum
and
art
center
and
then
on
the
ground
floor.
The
veteran
Resource
Center,
which,
if
a.
G
G
L
C
L
C
L
A
G
G
Wellness
checks
and
wellness
visits
that
we
work
into
the
class
that
we
talk
about
using
here.
Mass
art
is
actually
an
organization
that
we
talked
about
talked
with
to
potentially
program
the
veterans,
museums
and
arts
center
Chelsea,
like
local
Chelsea,
nonprofits,
home
bases
organization
that
provides
services.
C
G
C
C
Q
Did
did
talk
to
the
staff
there
and
talked
about
the
greenhouse
and
ways
that
they
can
do
their
programming
in
different
ways
that
we
can
interact
and
work
with
them,
and
these
are
all
the
groups
that
we
talk
to
in
advance
I'm
trying
to
get
understand.
You
know
how
can
this
development
be
supportive
to
the
native
to
folks
and
be
interested
in
doing
so?
There.
C
Q
Q
C
C
L
G
H
Can
do
traffic
game
we
feel
safe,
so
I
don't
understand.
I
live
right
there
and
I
never
see
an
accident.
I
talk
to
guys
every
day
that
I
walk
up
there
and
there's
more
than
enough
space,
and
it's
I've
never
heard
of
this
being
an
issue
ever
and
I
drive
that
every
single
day
so
like
as
a
person
who
uses
the
through
and
lives
there
and
sees
the
traffic
I
think
we
kind
of
know
better
than
anybody
else.
What
is
going
to
be
good
for
our
neighborhood.
E
G
E
H
I
just
have
a
few
comments,
one
of
them
being
I
think
I
feel
a
little
misled
with
this
development,
because
they're
saying
they're
using
the
term
Benchmark
and
everything
is
for
the
veterans,
but
I
speak
to
the
veterans.
I
go
to
church
up
there
they're
all
very
scared
that
they're
going
to
be
displaced
because
they
have
a
four-year
contract
that
they
can
utilize
what
they
have.
You
know
they're.
H
H
They,
you
know
they're
going
to
Market
this
out
veterans
prefer
it
doesn't
mean
an
effect
to
100
Veterans.
That
means
low
income
is
also
like
that.
It's
a
low-income
building,
it's
not
just
veterans.
It's
veterans
prefer
they
get
first
choice,
but
if
somebody
else
comes
in
after
that,
that
say
a
veteran
hasn't
applied
yet
they're
going
to
get
the
apartment,
and
then,
if
the
veteran
comes
in
after
them,
it's
going
to
be
full,
so
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
what
exactly-
and
you
guys
can
address
me
on
that?
H
They
are
going
to
have
the
same
time
for
four
years
and
then,
after
that,
I
need
to
be
able
to
afford
it.
The
other
thing
that
I
feel
misled
about
is
the
fact
that
these
places
are
not
accessible.
If
you
guys
go
back
to
the
slide
that
shows
press
to
have
currently
it
was.
You
know
they
just
spoke
about
how
this
you
know.
The
sidewalks
are
very
clear:
the
streets
are
very
crammed,
you
know
it's
not
accessible,
and
if
you
look
at
the
slide,
it
shows
that
they're
actually
decreasing
the
size
of
the
sidewalk.
H
So
if
this
can
you
go
right
here,
so
the
crest
they
have,
it
shows
right
there,
it's
a
611
sidewalk
and
if
you
look
down
at
the
proposed
it's
five
foot,
so
they're
not
they're,
not
giving
you
more
space
and
there's
a
three
foot,
three
foot
of
lawn
that
they're
going
to
be
taking
away
on
top
of
it.
So
you're
talking
this
huge
sidewalk,
that's
basically,
you
know.
14
feet
is
now
going
to
go
down
to
five
to.
R
C
H
H
The
other
thing
is
they're,
also
saying
you
know
we're
going
to
add
all
this
green
space.
If
you
go
to
the
proposal,
the
Green
Space,
what
they're
proposing
is
already
there
they're,
actually
taking
away
Green
Space
by
removing
the
site
on
the
right
and
adding
a
four-story
building,
that's
going
to
block
all
of
those
sides,
sunlight
and
View,
and
Eleanor
and
Willard,
because
they
are
over
building
on
this
site.
H
So
I'm
all
about
development
and
I
want
people
to
be
able
to
enjoy
coming
up
here,
but
I
just
feel
as
though
this
project
is
not
it's
not
to
scale
from
the
neighborhood.
It's
a
small
neighborhood.
We
have
a
lot
of
cars
already,
it's
very
slow.
The
winters
are
crazy.
Here.
These
Winters,
you
like,
if
you
guys,
have
ever
grown
up
Eleanor.
C
H
H
Two
parking
spots,
and
then
you
know:
if
you
don't
have
it,
you
don't
get
a
residential
sticker.
I,
don't
know
if
that
rule
is
going
to
apply
to
them,
but
they
don't
even
have
enough
parking
for
what
they're
going
to
propose,
never
mind
if
they
don't
make
them
have
parking.
No
parking
passes
no
parking
stickers
for
these
people,
then
they're
just.
C
H
B
H
C
R
C
B
H
Beautiful
I
have
a
newborn
I'd
love
to
bring
her
to
the
park.
You
know,
I
want
it
to
be
enjoyable,
but
I
walked
this
neighborhood
every
single
day
with
her
I
feel
safe,
I
feel
there's
enough.
Sidewalk
space
I
feel
as
though
adding
all
these
streets
taking
away
the
two
ways.
It's
just
gonna,
be
insane
and
again
a
lot
of
the
spaces
that
they've
already
said.
But
we're
going
to
add
this,
the
guard
is
already
there.
H
The
commandant's
space
is
already
there
they're
only
taking
away
one
of
the
spots
that
most
of
the
guys
use,
which
is
on
the
hillside
side
of
the
street,
the
hillside
that
you
can
see
the
view
and
if
they
haven't
talked
about
how
that's
going
to
affect
the
neighbors.
This
huge
building,
that's
going
to
be
overcasting
already
on
a
hill,
a
negative
of
four
stories.
On
top
of
that,
so
think
of
how
that's
going
to
Shadow
over
on
us
and
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood.
R
B
B
H
G
J
R
H
H
For
instance,
the
coordinates
for
the
parking
sticker
so
like
I,
just
I
I
have
a
home.
If
I
decide
to
put
five
units
there
and
I
don't
provide
the
parking
for
those
five
units.
The
people
that
move
in
they
don't
get
a
parking
residential
parking
pass.
So
basically
they
can't
have
a
car
because
there
will
be
nowhere
for
them
to
park.
K
I,
but
if
you
want
Chelsea
residents
to
come
over
there,
they're
going
to
drive,
so
that's
what
they're
going
to
do.
People
are
not
going
to
hike
up
that
hill,
so,
which
is
fine,
I,
think
it's
a
great
idea
that
they
just
spectacular
news
up
there,
but
they
are
going
to
the
police,
are
going
to
drive
so
I
keep
that's
why
parking
is
somewhat
a
big
issue.
One
of
the
ideas
I've
been
thinking
about
is
the
cafe.
K
C
C
K
K
F
K
D
C
Q
I
E
G
E
E
G
Oh
yeah,
one
thing
that
I
guess
I
forgot
to
mention
is
that
one
of
the
services
that
we
will
be
providing
to
the
veterans.
Currently
they
do
have
a
small
Transportation
ban
that
sits
in
a
club
headquarters,
provide
trips
to
the
VA
and
trips
to
the
office
offices.
So
that's
one
of
the
services
that
we
do
in
mission
to
continue
in
so
that
could
be
done
with
the
grocery
store
yeah.
G
M
Sustainability
aspects
right
now,
given
the
more
stringent
energy
codes
that
are
rolled
out
and
Mistresses
and
also
Chelsea,
is
not
adopted.
Yet
the
optimum
board,
which
is
even
more
stringent
energy
program,
it
makes
more
sense,
and
if
you
adoption
in
energy,
of
course,
you
will
have
to
comply
with
as
fast
Maps,
so
we're
already
putting
it
forward
in
a
new
buildings.
M
Those
buildings
will
be
highly
higher
position.
We
might
not
need
to
mark
on
the
existing
buildings
or
less
amounts,
and
the
reason
why
we're
going
past
the
house
is
monotony
is
because
of
the
energy,
because
it
makes
more
sense
to
focus
on
the
energy
which
has
very
classic
yeah
we're
talking
about
it.
E
E
Q
G
P
P
P
It's
an
exercising.
What
would
the
street
look
like
if
you
try
prioritize
the
person,
and
maybe
it's
not
quite
the
right
balance
yet,
and
you
know
we
have
to
find
the
right
balance
between
providing
space
for
cars
in
the
United
States
with
people,
but
this
is
an
attempt
to
think
about
prioritizing
the
person
prioritizing
the
trees,
I.
T
My
concern
with
making
Crest
Avenue
one
way
is
that
it
pushes
all
that
traffic
down
Hillside
so
you're
adding
all
of
this
traffic.
It's
all
forced
anyone
coming
up
from
the
other
side
has
to
come
down
on
Hillside.
Anyone
coming
down
press
pass
to
now
go
down
Hillside,
and
you
see
that
intersection
where
Eleanor
close
side
me
that
right
now,
in
its
current
condition,
is
pretty
dangerous
because
there
are
I,
think
Hillside
might
have
at
the
stop
sign.
T
Eleanor
doesn't
full
side
from
the
other
direction,
doesn't
have
a
stop
sign,
adding
all
of
that
traffic
to
it
is
going
to
create
more
problems
than
you
can
imagine.
I
wanted
a
clarification.
I
thought
I
heard.
There
are
currently
205
units,
but
then
somebody
else
said
305.
305.
and
are
those
like
305
rooms,
four
Apartments.
G
T
So
my
concern
again
about
eliminating
parking
is
that
you're
sitting
here
at
305.
This
development
will
bring
in
a
different
type
of
Veteran
I'm,
assuming
it
will
be.
We
will
have
increased
population
here,
a
different
type
of
Veteran
that
may
have
more
vehicles
and
then
going
back
to
what
we
said
about
veterans
prefer,
if
you're
having
non-veterans,
then
they
are
most
likely
going
to
have
cars.
T
T
I'm
also
worried
about
losing
so
much
open
space
I
do
love
the
idea
of
like
breaking
through
the
walls,
so
veterans
have
the
opportunity
to
access
the
Sullivan
Courtyard,
you
know
and
taking
them
off
of
Crest
Avenue.
You
know,
and
then
you
said
that
there
would
only
be
10
employees
I,
don't
understand
how
that's
possible,
especially
like
even
the
cafe.
You
know
you
have
a
cafe.
You
have
cleaning
people,
you
have.
T
You
know
any
type
of
refuse
collection
that
requires
people
and
that's
going
to
be
more
than
10
people,
so
you're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
employees.
People
working
and
you
know
somebody
gets
a
delivery
for
a
new
couch
I
mean
all
of
these.
Things
are
going
to
play
into
what
that
traffic
on
pressed
out
and
then
it's
going
to
look
like
and
then,
as
somebody
who
lives
on
Eleanor,
Street
I
hear
one
to
two
ambulances.
T
You
know
a
night,
sometimes
it's
a
regular
occurrence,
and
so
keeping
that
two-way
and
keeping
that
street
as
wide
as
possible
is
essential
for
that
and
I
have
to
share
my
concerns
about
the
East
parcel
building
one
it
could
be
pushed
back.
I
am
concerned
about
the
neighbors
there
having
this
tall
business
thing
right
across
the
street
from
them
as
we're
talking
about
open
space
and
making
it
accessible.
You
know
push
that
back
some
and
and
have
some
open
space
there
to
give
them
some
breathing
room.
M
So
those
of
you
who
are
here
there
will
be
no
Shadow
from
that
building.
I
mean
coming
towards
you
also.
We
have
to
know
that
we
carefully
located
a
building
in
a
way
that
this
is
animals.
This
is
the
the
lake
of
atoms
that
is
very
tall.
Our
building
is
set
back
way
further
beyond
what
we
have
dimensions,
62
feet
from
the
other
side
of
Hillside,
and
you
can
notice
how
further
far
out
this
building
is
from
this
house.
M
Q
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
issues
for
complaining,
I
think
we're
going
to
break
this
down
into
it.
There's
the
one
issue
about:
what's
you
know
the
neighborhood
residents
and
our
department
is
basically
taken
away
or
are
the
restaurants
there's
also
the
question
about
the
population
of
what
their
car
car
we
so.
Q
But
you
know
we
manage
you
know,
I,
don't
know
fifteen
thousand
units
and
and
we're
confident
that
the
the
between
the
combination
of
the
off-stream
spaces
that
we're
creating
and
the
spaces
that
we
would
would
have
on
press
Avenue,
open
channel
would
be
sufficient
to
serve
more
or
less
efficient
to
serve
this
population
based
on
our
experiencing
managing
progress.
So
I
think
that's
those
are
sort
of
two
different
things
that
I
think
we
can.
T
Overflows
from
this,
because
there's
not
enough
parking
here
so
that
it
has
an
impact
on
the
neighborhood
and
what
you
know
and
with
that
said,
when
we're
talking
about
the
people
who
are
going
to
be,
you
know
living
here
and
parking
here,
the
how
many
properties
do
you
manage
in
the
Boston
area,
because
we
are
already
very
congested.
You
know,
like
I,
said:
I
live
on
Eleanor.
There
are
people
who
live
down
on
Broadway
who
Park
up
on
Eleanor
because
they
can't
get
parking
down
there
for.
Q
Q
The
neighborhood
so
we're
so
just
you
know
we're
right
now
in
construction
on
75
units
in
Boston,
and
we
have
platform
cases
and
we're
in
the
process
of
Permitting
an
88
unit
building
and
also
writing
with
zero
Environmental
Services.
So
you
know
we
really
feel
this.
You
know
that
parking
is
not
something
that
we
necessarily
need
for
for.
T
Q
C
Q
Q
Q
Neighborhood,
you
know
this.
This
Crest
Avenue
has
been
a
naturally
a
parking
for
these
folks
right.
If
you
live
down
here,
you're
not
going
to
park
your
car
I,
don't
think
and
walk
all
the
way
down
here.
If
you
want
to
park
here
right
same
thing
with
camel.
You
know
this
is
this
sort
of
kind
of?
If
you
think
about
it
too,
this
kind
of
is
sort
of
kind
of
a
kind
of
own
quotation
marks,
if
you
can
think
about
for
that.
So
one
of.
Q
Have
socialized
or
thought
about
doing
to
accommodate
the
neighborhood
is
to
limit
ourselves
to
that
right
to
say:
Hey!
Listen!
What
if
we
went
to
a
city,
council
or
whatever
and
create
a
parking
District
where
our
residents
could
only
Park
in
these
two
areas
so
that
the
residents
on
Hillside
Ave
wouldn't
have
to
compete
with
our
residents
parking
in
there
and
we're
more
than
happy
and
willing
to
do
that
and
pursue
that
as
an
accommodation
to
the
neighborhood.
I.
G
T
G
I
think
just
for
the
population
I
just
want
the
class.
That's
our
intent
is
the
Commonwealth
intent
to
make
this
a
veterans
project
and
one
of
our
service
provider,
the
United,
multiple
properties
across
the
state
and
all
their
properties
of
permanent
housing
for
Veterans
they
have
waitress,
and
our
goal
is
that
once
we
build
this,
that
we
continue
to
have
a
witness
and
to
continue
to
fill
that
weakness.
G
Whichever
is
working
with
the
city
working
with
the
VA
working
with
the
service
providers,
that
will
be
on
site
to
continue
adding
veterans
to
the
waitlist
so
that
this
is
a
veterans
campus
Because,
that's
historically
what
it's
been
and
that's
their
intent
and
goal.
The
only
reason
why
we
can't
go
yeah,
that's
our
technical!
You
know.
Q
G
Are
six
people
that
apply
and
there
are
current
residents
that
apply
that
live
there?
There
are
other
veterans
that
apply
and
there
are
other
applicants
that
apply
so
then
there's
a
this
is
the
initial
Visa.
There
are
a
number
of
assigned
to
these
individuals
and
how
do
we
have
property
and
they
pull
them
out
and
where
you
are
on
the
border?
That
means
that
all
of
the.
G
G
Their
income
and
their
information,
their
applications
put
in
and
they
get
a
new
day.
The
second
current
resident
gets
a
unit
and
then
we
go
to
the
other
government,
one
other
one
over
and
two
and
the
other
Advocates.
So
the
goal
is
that
we
have
seven
units
and
all
seven
all
six
units
and
all
six
of
these,
our.
H
G
G
J
S
G
Q
Q
I
Q
Q
For
the
rent,
their
only
responsible
for
30
of
the
income
to
contribute
to
the
rent,
so
they
made
ten
dollars.
They
paid
three
dollars
right.
The
four
years
that
you're
talking
that
you're
referring
to
is
part
of
the
uniform
relocation
number.
So
when
you,
when
you
make
these
changes,
their
rent
has
to
stay
fixed
for
four
years
and
that's
equipped
with
the
decam
was
saying
so.
Decam
will
be
made
a
difference
between
What
the
residents
are
paying
now
and
and
the
rent
they
otherwise
would
pay
30
of
their
income
for
four
years.
Q
That's
the
promise
that
the
state
has
made
that's
required
by
the
law.
That's
the
promise
that
they
made
to
the
to
those
residents.
But
after
that
that
goes
they
their
rent.
You
know,
may
go
up
and
it's
only
30
of
the
income,
just
like
everybody
else
in
low
income
that
has
a
Section
8,
that's
in
a
low
income.
Q
No,
they
don't,
because
the
project-based
outdoors
are
tied
to
the
two
different
kinds:
there's
World
vouchers,
with
project-based
vouchers.
We
will
go
out
and
get
the
approximately
done,
so
we
will
tie
them
to
the
unit,
not
the
person,
so
they
will
have
the
benefit
being
the
unit
that
is
subsidized
and
they
get
that
they
get
that
okay,
three
percent
of
their
income.
K
C
Q
E
Q
Want
yeah
so
think
of
it.
This
way
right,
you
know
like
we
all
make
choices
where
we
want
to
live
based
on,
what's
important
to
us
right
if
I'm,
a
person
that
has
two
cars
and
I
really
wanted,
the
access
to
my
cars
and
I
want
to
put
them
in
a
drive
and
put
me
they're
not
going
to
want
to
live
here,
they'll
find
somewhere
else.
We
all
make
those
choices
right,
and
so
you
know
sad
reality
is
that
there
is
an
overwhelming
need
for
affordable
housing
in
this
community,
and
you
all
know
that.
Q
Q
C
H
H
Q
T
Q
H
Q
H
It's
not
Apartments,
it's
not
a
beautiful
place.
It
with
you
know,
Boston
views
that
all
these
other
veterans
have
been
wanting
now
come
to
when
other
residents
from
the
area
that
are
going
to
put
in
if
there's
a
spot
open
and
those
are
the
people
that
are,
you,
know,
they're
going
to
be
looking
forward
to
eat
on
their
own
they're,
going
to
be
afford
to
they're
going
to
be
able
to
afford
to
have
electricity.
Yes,
if
these
people
are
going
to
be,
you
know
most
likely
have
vehicles
and
if
they're
saying
that
one-to-one
ratio.
H
H
S
Like
we
don't
want
to
take
away
parking
into
the
neighborhood,
but
the
thing
is
like
we
don't
want
to
take
away
units
for
cars
like
it's
people
who
live
like
we
don't
want
to
take
away
where
someone
can
live,
or
you
know,
but
it's
like
literally,
but
this
is
like
the
market
identity.
It's
like
people.
C
H
I
Itself,
as
they
said,
if
they
create
a
parking
District,
the
card
will
be
registered
in
that
district
and
tied
to
parking
in
that
District.
You
know,
for
example,
I
look
down
on
a
waterfront
if
I
had
a
car,
you
know
if
it
was
specifically
tied
to
that
District
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
park
up
in
this
in
your
neighborhood
yeah.
I
K
M
K
K
M
C
K
M
K
I
C
M
G
M
T
C
C
G
L
L
They're
happy
to
be
living
in
personally
I
just
want
to
say
that
that
part
that
the
East
parcel
it's
it's
great,
that
it's
going
to
be
housing
for
Veterans.
It's
really
sad
that
it's
the
last
great
space
there
with
the
view
of
the
water,
where
a
lot
of
people
convene
to
everybody
in
the
neighborhood
walks,
their
dogs
they're,
hangs
out
with
veterans
the
landscaper.
L
Q
Q
Q
G
Yeah
we
go
back
to
the
RFP
of
what
we
prepare.
We
actually
proposed
Great
Space
there,
and
when
we
talk
to
the
store
Commission,
because
we
post
additions
here,
they
actually
said
that
they
didn't
want
to
see
anything
there
and
they
actually
pushed
Us
in
put
a
building
there
and
Charlie
fought
that
for
a
long
time
he
was
really
upset.
G
G
C
Q
Just
a
random
idea:
there's
a
guy
I've
got
to
know
who's.
Does
coffee
work
for
Pete's
Coffee
that
we
definitely
brought
them
out
here?
Does
the
coffee
for
our
ability,
so
I've
actually
had
conversation
with
him
like?
Would
you
be
interested
in
coming
and
trying
to
work
with
the
veterans
and
create
like
a
coffee
business
here,
so
I
mean
that's
sort
of
after
all,
this
is
kind.
H
Q
Q
G
Be
something
that's
more
of
a
placemaking
exercise
and
I
think
the
comment
about
other
things.
I
would
consider
that
I've
been
basically
reminds
me
last
week
over
at
the
Town
Hall
there
was
a
veterans
I
hadn't
met
I
was
like
well,
maybe
this
could
be
a
place
where
they
can
perform
so
I
think
the
cafe
ideas
are
kind
of
initial
placeholder,
we're
exploring
that
still,
but
the
idea
of
maybe
other
spaces.
This
would
be
that
could
work
well
with
that.
Plaza
could
definitely
be
engaging.
Q
Q
Actually,
quite
refreshing
is
that
a
lot
of
veterans
are
like
you
know.
I
actually
would
like
to
I
would
like
to
have
my
own
kitchen.
I
would
like
to
do
that.
We're
not
afraid
of
that.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
showed
up
was
that
we
looked
in
the
in
the
in
the
resource
center.
There
is
an
area
that
would
cause
a
kitchen
right,
and
so
one.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Basically,
that
will
stock
with
you
know,
dry
goods
and
things
like
that.
The
residents
in
case
divide
that
cost
no
markup.
So
in
the
event
that
there's
a
another
covet
epidemic
or
something
and
people
are
stuck
inside,
you
know
they
have
access
to
buying
paper,
towels
and
toilet
paper,
and
you
know
just
toothpaste
and
you
know
mustard
and
catch
up.
That's
right!
So
it's
a
great
idea,
perfect
idea,
that's
I'm,
sure
we'll
be
able
to
find
in
all
those
open,
so
creative,
so
some
place
about
more
than
one
place.
Yeah.
We
designed.
Q
Q
C
I
That's
actually
the
intent,
or
at
least
I
mean
it's
explained
by
our
former
city
manager,
because
there
are
people
who
have
asked
at
different
Community
meetings
for
parking
spaces
to
be
marked
out
on
the
streets
and
our
previous
city
manager.
His
argument
always
was
that
will
eliminate
spaces.
If
you
mark
out
a
parking
spot
on
the
street,
you
because
you
have
to
make
you
have
they
have
to
be
of
a
size
that
can
accommodate
the
largest
passenger.