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A
May
I
have
your
attention
please,
may
I
have
your
attention
please
we're
going
to
delay
the
official
opening
of
the
meeting
for
about
five
minutes,
or
so
we
we
only
have
four
board
members
here
so
far,
but
we're
going
to
delay
commencing
the
meeting
to
hopefully
pick
up
another
board
member
or
two
thank
you.
B
C
D
A
A
A
Please
remember
to
turn
off
your
cell
phones,
so
they
do
not
become
a
distraction
during
the
meeting.
Please
also
refrain
from
having
conversations
in
this
room
so
that
we
might
hear
all
the
testimony
given
today
to
ensure
a
complete
record
of
this
board's
actions.
We
ask
that
each
individual
wishing
to
speak,
including
the
applicant,
speak
into
the
microphone
at
the
podium
in
front
of
us,
clearly
state
your
name
and
spell
your
last
name
for
the
clerk.
A
Agendas
of
today's
meeting
are
on
the
podium
to
your
left
near
the
entry
door
also
on
this
podium,
our
roster
of
the
community
development
board,
the
list
of
city
staff
experts
and
their
resumes,
the
board's
rules
of
procedures
and
the
annual
schedule
of
this
board.
Our
first
order
of
business
is
to
review
and
approve
the
minutes
from
last
month's
meeting.
May
I
have
a
motion
for
approval
of
the
minutes.
I
moved
the
minute.
A
The
next
item
to
consider
is
the
items
that
are
not
on
today's
agenda.
A
A
I
just
want
to:
can
you
state
your
name
and
spell
your
last
name
for
the
clerk,
my
name.
I
Is
elizabeth
ferguson,
that's
episode,
frank
e
r
g?
U
s
and
sam
owen
and
n
s
and
nicole-
and
I
just
want
to
speak
about
the
homeless
issue
and
like
particularly
the
police
and
the
sheriffs
like.
I
believe
that
some
of
the
homeless
are
being
accused
of
doing
things
that
they
are
not
doing,
and
the
court
is
just
trying
to
make
money
off
of
them.
I
It's
hard
enough
not
having
a
place
to
stay,
and
I
think
that
the
shelters
should
do
a
better
job
because
they're
only
helping
certain
people
and
I
believe
that
you
shouldn't
go
to
jail
or
have
a
trespass
warrant
against
you.
Just
because
you
can't
find
a
place
to
sleep
at
night,
especially
when
you're,
a
woman
and
your
safety
is
being
violated,
and
then,
when
you
have
to
go
to
court
for
something
that
you
didn't
do
or
the
cop
didn't
do
a
good
job.
Communicating
with
you.
I
I
I
think
they
need
the
community
might
want
to
look
into
changing
rights,
not
just
for
people
who
have
houses,
but
for
people
who
are
on
the
street
like
people
who
are
innocent
and
just
want
to
have
the
right
to
a
fair
trial.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Does
anyone
else
have
an
item
that
they
want
to
speak
about?
That's
not
on
today's
agenda.
All
right
with
that
we
will
move
on
to
our
consent
agenda.
This
board
has
adopted
a
consent,
agenda
format
and
the
consent
items
are
identified
as
such
on
the
agenda
consent.
Agenda
items
are
those
items
for
which
the
planning
and
development
department
recommends
approval.
The
applicant
is
in
agreement
with
any
proposed
conditions
and
no
written
objections
to
the
case
have
been
received.
A
I
will
read
each
item
on
the
consent
agenda
and
if
any
person
wishes
to
remove
this
item
from
the
consent
agenda,
please
so
state
or
raise
your
hand,
and
we
will
remove
it
from
the
consent
agenda.
Items
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
will
be
heard
in
the
regular
order
of
the
meeting
items
that
remain
on
the
consent
agenda
will
be
approved
with
a
single
vote.
A
A
The
board
is
reviewing
a
43-unit
attached
dwelling
use,
including
11,
affordable
units
in
the
office
district
for
the
property
located
at
1510
barry
road.
The
project
includes
an
unaddressed
parcel
in
the
low
medium
density,
residential
district,
which
will
have
green
space
and
landscaping.
Only
the
project
will
be
22
feet
in
height
from
grade
or
13
feet
from
base.
Flood
elevation
proposes
a
minimum
of
53
off
street
parking
spaces
and
requests
allowable
flexibility
for
use,
density,
setbacks,
parking
and
landscaping.
A
A
Located
at
117,
north
mcmullen
booth
road,
the
owner
is
farad
m
nick
j.
The
applicant
is
peter
pence.
Pe
the
property
is
.667
acres,
located
on
the
east
side
of
mcmullen
booth
road
bound
by
drew
street
to
the
north
and
bay
lane
to
the
south.
The
board
is
reviewing
a
proposed
eleven
thousand
six
hundred
twenty
eight
square
foot
office
in
the
office
district
for
the
property
located
at
117,
north
mcmullen
booth
road.
A
A
A
A
A
A
The
location
is
1.115
acres
located
on
the
east
and
west
sides
of
east
shore
drive
approximately
250
feet
north
of
the
memorial
causeway
receiving
site.
A
405
coronado
drive,
formerly
420
hampden
street
west
side
of
hampden
street.
At
the
western
terminus
of
bayside
drive
the
sending
site
152
through
188
brightwater
drive
north
side
of
brightwater,
approximately
1040
feet
east
of
hampden
drive.
A
A
I'll
try
to
slow
down
as
well
we're
reviewing
changes
in
include
an
increase
in
density
from
74
hotel
units
to
91
units,
including
the
previously
approved
allocation
of
eight
overnight
accommodation
units
from
the
hotel
density
reserve,
created
pursuant
to
beach,
by
design
and
through
transfer
of
development
rights
for
17,
additional
overnight
accommodation
units
for
a
total
of
28
units,
an
increase
in
height
from
65
to
80
feet
in
tight
from
design
flood
elevation
of
the
hotel
building.
A
A
Lup2022-030039
at
905,
south
highland
avenue-
this
is
a
level
three
application.
The
owner
is
ymca
of
the
suncoast
inc.
The
applicant's
representative
is
brian
angstad,
mcfarland
ferguson,
the
location
is
1.86
acres
on
the
east
side
of
south
highland
avenue,
approximately
450
feet
south
of
druid
road.
A
A
A
Zero
rez2022-03003
again
at
905,
south
highland
avenue,
owner
ymca
of
the
suncoast
inc
applicant
representative,
is
bryant
oxton
mcfarland,
ferguson,
1.86
acres,
located
on
the
east
side
of
south
highland
avenue,
approximately
450
feet
south
of
druid
road
and
the
board
is
reviewing
a
request
to
amend
the
zoning
atlas,
designation
from
the
office
district
to
the
institutional
district
and
is
making
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council.
Is
there
anyone
who
wishes
to
remove
this
item
from
today's
consent
agenda?
A
All
right?
I
believe
that
leaves
only
items
items
four
and
five
on
today's
consent
agenda.
May
I
have
a
motion
regarding
this.
These
level
three
applications.
A
J
Right
and
you
also,
maybe,
since
you
have
you're
going
to
move
in
the
quasi-now,
it
might
be
a
good
time
to
advise
about
the
right
of
applicants.
Sure.
A
All
right,
we
have
less
than
a
full
board
today,
so
any
applicant
who
wishes
to
have
their
matter
heard
at
next
month's
meeting
may
have
the
opportunity
to
do
that,
and
please
let
us
know
when
your
item
is
called
if
you
wish
to
go
in
that
direction.
Thank
you.
A
We
will
move
on
to
the
regular
agenda.
There
are
two
types
of
cases
that
will
be
heard
today,
quasi-judicial
and
legislative.
I
will
outline
the
procedure
for
each
hearing
at
the
beginning
of
the
respective
hearings.
The
procedure
for
quasi-judicial
hearings
are
level.
Two
cases
all
are,
such
as
flexible
development
are
considered
quasi-judicial
hearings
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing,
the
community
development
board
reviews,
the
application,
the
staff
report,
correspondence
and
all
evidence
presented
today
and
makes
a
final
decision
subject
to
appeal.
A
This
board
has
previously
qualified
all
the
city
staff
who
will
testify
as
experts
in
their
area
of
professional
training,
education
and
experience,
the
list
of
city
staff
experts
and
their
resumes
are
in
the
handbook
on
the
podium
near
the
entry
door.
Any
other
professionals
who
desire
to
be
qualified
as
an
expert
witness
shall
so
request
at
the
beginning
of
the
case
and
present
a
resume
to
each
board
member.
A
A
Then
the
case
will
proceed
as
follows:
after
request
for
party
status,
presentation
by
planning
and
development
staff,
10
minutes
maximum
presentation
by
the
applicant
10
minutes
maximum
presentation
by
persons
with
party
status,
five
minutes
per
party
maximum
cross-examination
of
witness
witnesses
by
planning
and
development
staff
cross-examination
of
witnesses
by
applicant
cross-examination
of
witnesses
by
persons
with
party
status
comments
by
the
public
three
minutes
per
person,
closing
remarks
by
the
planning
and
development
staff.
Three
minutes
maximum
closing
remarks
by
persons
granted
party
status.
F
Madam
chair,
I
have
two
experts.
I
would
like
the
board
to
swear
in
first
we
have
mr
mark
perry,
senior
planner
development
review.
He
is
an
expert
in
general
planning
zoning
redevelopment
planning,
land
development
code
and
land
development
code
amendments
special
area
plans
in
overlay,
districts,
site,
plane,
review,
landscape
architecture
at
this
time.
I'd
ask
that
the
board
accept
him
as
an
expert
witness.
K
F
D
L
Mark
perry,
planning
and
development
this
case
is
has
been
before
this
board
at
least
three
or
five
times
prior,
it's
a
just
over
two
acres.
It's
located
on
the
north
side
of
barrie
road.
It's
a
tri-frontage
lot
consisting
of
two
parcels.
L
Both
parcels
will
need
to
be
joined
together
through
unity
of
title
prior
to
the
issuance
of
any
permits.
The
property
spans.
Two
zoning
districts,
bulk
of
the
property,
is
zoned
office.
Small
portion
of
zone,
low
medium
density,
residential,
most
of
the
existing
development,
consists
of
two
three-story
buildings.
All
of
them
are
located
in
the
office.
Zoning
district,
the
parking
lot
that's
in
the
lmdr
district
will
be
removed
and
landscaped.
With
this
proposal,
the
site
was
developed
sometime
between
1965
and
1972,
that
it
was
a
longer
development
process.
L
Essentially,
this
project
physically
is
very
similar
to
every
other
development.
That's
come
through
and
been
approved
for
this
site.
The
only
real
difference
is
the
use.
The
use
in
this
case
is
residential,
which
is
not
a
list
of
permitted
use
in
the
office
zoning
district,
but
it
is
permitted
by
the
underlying
future
land
use
plan
classification,
so
it
is
able
to
be
asked
for
as
part
of
a
comprehensive
informal
development
project.
L
L
L
F
I'm
madam
chair
and
board
members.
I
would
like
to
clarify
for
you:
there
is
a
clerical
error
in
the
staff
report
on
their
conditions
of
approval,
so
I
just
like
to
read
it
to
the
record:
would
that
be
the
appropriate
way
to
handle
this?
Miss
sullivan
I'll,
go
ahead
and
read
it
the
condition
of
approval,
as
it's
supposed
to
read,
should
say
what
which
way?
Which
number
is
it
number
two?
Okay?
F
All
necessary
and
required
building
permits
shall
be
obtained
within
three
months
of
the
date.
Such
settlement
agreement
is
approved
by
the
city
of
clearwater
city
council,
the
effective
date
of
the
agreement,
and
that
settlement
agreement
is
anticipated
to
be
approved
by
council
in
july.
Just
so,
you
know.
F
N
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
robert
pergolizzi
principal
with
gulf
coast,
consulting
13825
icot
boulevard,
speed
605
in
clearwater.
I've
been
sworn.
I've
testified
before
this
board
as
an
expert
witness
in
land
use
and
transportation.
Numerous
times
my
file
is
in
the
record
in
the
city's
records,
2.13
acre
site
split
zoning
mostly
office
with
an
lmdr
parcel
to
the
east,
because
we
have
a
single-family
residential
further
to
the
east.
N
N
The
current
owner,
who
is
my
client
that
I'm
representing,
purchased
the
property
in
february
and
immediately
went
to
work
with
the
city
to
square
up
the
code
enforcement
issues
and
filed
this
application?
We
filed
it
in
march,
as
mark
stated
43
multi-family
units
within
the
existing
buildings
that
would
be
renovated
of
those
11,
affordable
housing
dwelling
units
and
there's
a
land
use
restriction
agreement
that
is
that's
been
executed.
That's
part
of
the
application
as
well
residential
use
is
appropriate
here.
N
This
the
same
client
did
15
20
jeffords,
which
I
think
might
have
been
before
you
a
a
year
ago,
1520
jeffords,
converted
an
old
alf
into
affordable
housing
dwelling
units
and
that's
the
property
that
neighbors
us
to
the
north,
we're
reducing
the
impervious
service
impervious
surface,
increasing
the
green
space,
the
lmdr
parcel
that
had
12
parking
spaces
in
it,
but
we
can't
have
parking
spaces
there
for
this
type
of
use,
so
we're
removing
those
turning
that
into
landscaping
and
green
space
serves
as
a
great
buffer
between
this
use
and
the
residential
to
the
east.
N
We
believe
it'll
be
an
asset
to
the
area
and
we're
looking
to
get
moving.
My
client
is
getting
ready
to
file
building
permits
to
do
some
interior
renovations.
I
did
receive
a
phone
call
from
mr
johnson
about
an
hour
ago.
I
attempted
to
answer
his
questions,
but
apparently
he
didn't
do
a
good
job.
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have.
F
That
agreement,
you
were
referencing.
Were
you
talking
about
the
settlement
agreement?
No,
the
land
use
restrictions,
that's
a
different
agreement,
yeah
that
that's
part
of
the
he
has
to
do
that
to
verify
that
all
of
the
units
are
affordable.
Housing.
The
11
units
are
affordable
housing.
What
the
income.
O
O
All
right,
okay,
this
is
was
taken
a
couple
weeks
ago.
You
notice
that
it
was
previously
fenced,
but
the
fencing
has
fallen
down.
These
are
both
on
the
south
east
portion
of
the
property.
O
This
one
is
on
the
the
south
portion
of
the
property.
The
application
or
the
the
documentation
goes
back
to
2017
the
code
enforcement
fines
have
accrued
to
the
extent
of
375
thousand
dollars.
The
question
here
is:
how
long
does
the
community
have
to
wait
to
have
this
code
enforcement
problem
resolved?
F
We
have
referenced
the
agreement
and
the
conditions
of
approval
and,
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
they
will
have
to
obtain
their
building
permits
within
three
months
of
approval
by
city
council,
which
is
anticipated,
take
place
in
july.
So
hopefully
we'll
see
some
movement
on
that
property
pretty
soon.
For
you.
O
A
P
Q
A
N
I
do
again
robert
fergulizzi,
for
the
record.
Getting
an
approval
here
today
is
step
one
for
us
to
start
fixing
the
property
up
as
soon
as
later
this
week
he's
ready
to
file
his
permits
to
do
interior
renovations
and
exterior
renovations
on
the
building.
We
will
then
need
to
file
a
site
permit
for
for
site
work
to
remove
some
of
the
parking,
and
you
know,
install
the
landscaping
yeah
the
building
has
fallen
into
disrepair.
N
I
don't
know
the
specifics
of
the
of
the
settlement
agreement
with
the
city
on
code
enforcement,
about
about
the
fines,
but
he's
he's
ready
to
pay
what
he
needs
to
pay
according
to
that
agreement
and
can
abide
by
condition.
Number
two,
which
I
think
adequately
addresses
the
issues
and
gives
him
a
time
frame.
He
can't
get
these
permits
fast
enough,
there's
a
pressing
need
for
affordable
housing
in
the
city
in
the
whole
county
and
he's
telling
me
what's
taking
so
long
and
I'm
like
we've
got
hearings.
N
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
This
concludes
the
public
hearing
on
this
item.
Discussion
and
vote
by
the
board.
K
Can
you
read
item
two
again
the
way
the
amended
character
conditioned
condition.
F
A
E
E
Amended
with
with.
A
A
Our
next
item
to
address
is
case.
Fld202109018.
F
F
It
every
time
all
right,
fair
enough,
we'll
do
it
again,
madam
chair,
at
this
time
I
would
ask
the
board,
except
mr
mark
perry
as
a
expert
witness
in
general
planning
zoning
redevelopment
planning,
lane
development
code
and
land
development
code
amendments
special
area
plans
in
overlay,
districts,
site
plan,
review
and
landscape
architecture.
F
Next,
madam
chair,
I
would
ask
the
board,
except
mr
david
ogida,
a
senior
professional
engineer
as
an
expert
witness
in
civil
engineering,
land
development
utilities,
construction
building
permits,
storm
water
and
fema
federal
emergency
management
agency,
floodplain
regulations.
Yes,.
A
All
in
favor
opposed
all
right
before
you
begin
your
presentation,
mr
perry,
I
have
been
remiss
in
not
requesting
to
identify
anybody
who
wants
to
request
party
status
for
this
item.
Is
there
anyone
in
attendance
who
would
like
to
ask
to
have
party
status
for
this
item
all
right?
Seeing
none!
Mr
perry,
you
can
begin.
L
L
L
The
primary
aspects
of
this
case
again
are
the
same
as
the
one
I
went
through
in
2004
setback.
Reductions
along
the
three
street
frontages
to
building
down
to
between
10
feet
on
the
south
12
feet
on
the
north
and
15
feet
on
the
west,
and
also
a
height
increase
from
25
feet
to
35
feet.
It
is
a
two-story
building.
L
L
The
staff
reviewed
the
application
and
the
accompanying
materials
and
found
findings,
in
fact,
and
conclusions
of
law
whereby
a
recommendation
of
approval
can
be
made
with
that.
There
are
13
proposed
conditions
of
approval.
If
there
are
any
questions,
I'd
be
happy
to
try
to
answer
them.
L
Feet
is
what's
permitted
in
the
office.
Zoning
district,
the
increase
in
height
is
really
for
architectural
embellishments
on
top
of
the
building.
If
you
look
at
the
elevations,
the
height
to
the
roof,
deck
is
28
feet,
so
the
remainder
of
that
height
increase
is
really
for
architectural
embellishments.
The
code
says
that
if.
L
L
A
code
says
that
you
can
have
an
additional
42
inches
for
parapet
and
up
to
16
feet
for
mechanical
equipment
enclosures,
so
all
that's
kind
of
taken
into
account,
but
because
their
architectural
embellishments,
the
parapet,
walls
and
things
they're
taller
than
the
42
inches
we've
for
the
sake
of
being
conservative,
we've
measured
to
the
top
of
those
architectural
embellishments
which
is
35
feet.
Thank
you
very
much.
R
R
We
concur
with
staff's
recommendations
and
their
their
summarization
of
the
report.
Our
findings
and
justifications
for
the
request
we're
in
the
file
rather
than
take
away
from
the
time
on
the
agenda,
we'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have,
or
the
public
may
have
reserve
our
time
to
either
respond
to
those
questions
or
for
rebuttal,
if
needed.
R
But
I'll
note
that
mr
perry's
description
of
the
height
is
correct.
It
is
going
to
be
a
class
a
office
space,
so
you
would
want
higher
ceilings
in
it
because
it
makes
for
a
better
quality
office.
It's
also,
as
you
saw
from
the
elevations,
it
allows
for
variation
both
in
facade
depth
and
height,
in
order
to
provide
a
nicer
looking
building.
We
do
you
know
we
do
want
to
fit
in
with
the
community
and
respect
the
order
that
we're
on
in
the
neighborhood
around
us,
so
it
helps
with
making
it
a
better
quality.
A
S
All
different
okay,
so
I'm
the
next
door
neighbor
to
the
property
proposed
property.
Remember
the
application
in
2004
was
at
that
hearing
as
well
and
ejected
to
very
similar
variances
as
well.
My
major
objective
is
the
height
increase.
It's
10
foot
increase.
I
don't
think
it's
necessary.
I
understand
it's
a
class,
a
office
space,
but
the
neighborhood
doesn't
really
support
that.
There
are
no
like
buildings
in
the
neighborhood
there's
a
calgary
baptist
school
across
the
church,
but
that's
a
very
different
use.
There's
a
ballpark!
It's
very
much
a
residential
area.
S
We
have
multiple,
multiple
neighbors
that
probably
didn't
get
the
notice
that
they
got
in
2004.
I'm
not
sure
what
the
radius
is
smaller
this
time
than
in
2004.,
because
I
know
other
neighbors
came.
They
did
come
to
this
one.
They
were
all
opposed
about
the
same
height
increase.
So
my
my
concern
is
the
tall
windows
on
the
second
floor.
You
know
the
visibility,
because
now
all
those
beautiful
trees
in
that
water
can
be
gone,
except
for
one.
That's
in
between
the
driveway.
S
It's
a
it's
a
nice
landscape
buffer
for
my
residents,
which,
unfortunately,
due
to
the
county
requirements,
has
a
three
foot
raised
septic
field
in
the
backyard
so
effectively.
My
six
foot
fence
provides
three
foot
of
privacy,
I'm
working
with
the
county
to
try
and
get
some
kind
of
retention
wall
put
in
that
property
line.
S
So
I
can
raise
the
fence
up
a
bit
to
getting
some
more
privacy
because
since
they
re-landscaped
a
lot
of
people
cleared
it
out,
we
have
all
the
lighting
noise
traffic,
all
the
dust
and
stuff
from
that,
and
it's
been
kind
of
a
highway
for
taking
a
shortcut
through
that
property.
Over
the
many
many
years,
cities
helped
out
a
little
bit.
They
put
up.
Do
not
trespass
signs,
excuse
me,
but
they
just
go
around
them.
S
My
point
is,
I
think,
the
variances
on
the
height,
the
request
to
go
higher
is
too
much
for
being
right
beside
it.
I'm
going
to
be
looking
right
at
a
35-foot
office
building
ambient
light
in
the
evenings,
which
is
going
to
be
probably
going
to
be
shining
out
a
distraction
to
me,
the
property
value
impact,
I'm
not
sure
how
that's
going
to
be
if
it
can
stay
within
the
25
foot
level
or
closer
to
that
25
foot
level.
The
agreeable
of
that
also
the
landscape
buffer.
I
know
there's
going
to
be
four
magnolia
trees.
S
I
think
they
are,
and
some
verb
bushes
as
well
also
takes
some
time
to
grow
and
it's
not
going
to
really
replace.
What's
currently
there
now-
and
I
know
one
thing
I
do
agree
with:
are
these
landscape
setbacks
push
the
building
towards
the
road
towards
bay
and
drew
good
good,
good
idea,
there's
a
20
foot,
ish
or
sorry
19-foot,
landscape
barrier
and
pond
between
my
lot
and
proposed
parking,
which
is
going
to
be
helpful.
His
retention,
10-foot
landscape,
I'd
like
to
see
some
more
substantial
landscaping
in
that
10-foot.
S
I
don't
think
four
magnolia
trees
and
a
hedge
is
going
to
cut
it
and
we'll
also
like
to
know
what
the
solid
barrier
is
going
to
be
on
the
other
side
of
those
trees
as
well.
That's
kind
of
from
a
cycling
perspective.
I
was
a
little
disappointed
to
see
that
there
was
no
infrastructure
improvement
for
sewer
other
than
directly
board
line
all
the
way
down
through
street.
So
there's
no
improvement
to
the
area
that
section
of
bay
lane
has
kind
of
been
forgotten
about
by
the
city.
I've
asked
questions.
S
They
said
they're,
probably
never
going
to
develop
that
lot
or
that
street,
because
it's
too
expensive,
so
we're
never
going
to
have
city
sewer
unless
the
whole
neighborhood
ax
is
in
and
decides
to
do
that
never
going
to
happen.
So
it's
going
to
be
continually
on
septic
forever
and
then
the
other
part
just
the
infrastructure,
the
setbacks
and
really
just
the
overall
quality
of
the
neighborhood.
There
are
no
other
like
buildings
there,
so
as
minimal
as
impact
that
building
can
have.
A
E
The
concern
about
the
septic
tank
is
is
interesting
because
I
was
involved
in
the
septic
tank
program
for
pinellas
county
for
sure
I
know
what
the
race
system
is,
and
I
I
feel
your
concern
about
the
groundwater
that
is
being
polluted
by
septic
systems
and
there's
been
always
been
a
effort,
and
it's
sad
that
the
city
of
clearwater
has
decided
to
abandon.
E
S
Sewer
excellent
question,
because
at
the
end
of
bay
lane,
where
it
hits
k
street
in
turns
in
the
city,
there's
a
sanitary
sewer
right
there,
one
little
direction
or
a
six
inch
main
would
solve
this
whole
problem
and
whether
that's
like
the
cost
of
developer,
I
can't
imagine
doing
that
is
any
more
expensive
than
doing
a
directional
bore
two-thirds
of
the
way
down.
True
street
yeah,
it
just
doesn't
make
an
lift
station
a
privately
station.
That's
this
doesn't
make
any
sense.
E
S
S
Well,
I'm
on
my
second
brain
field
too,
so
about
four
or
five
years
ago,
which
you
know
that's
gonna
last
that
or
ten
years
and
I'm
gonna
let
another
five
to
ten
thousand
dollars
for
that
so
where's.
What's
the
what's
the
impact,
I'm
spending
money
anyways,
why
not
put
an
impact
fee
for
myself
the
neighbors?
I
know
there's
other
neighbors
here
that
would
be
very
interested
in
as
well.
You
had
to
reduce
costs
or
some
kind
of
something
like
organize
effort
to
do
that.
E
S
E
S
Put
in
paving
it
to
me
not
to
cut
you
out,
but
to
me
the
installation
of
a
lift
station
for
a
building
like
that
and
the
impact
it's
having
on
that
neighborhood
is,
should
not
be
allowed.
It's
it's.
It's
disrespectful
in
some
ways,
because
you're
you're
directly
affecting
that
neighborhood,
the
property
values
the
visit,
the
overall
aesthetic
of
the
neighborhood.
If
it's
bay
lane
it's
county,
probably
it's
not.
You
know,
beverly
hills,
I
know,
but
it's
our
neighborhood,
it's
where
we
live,
it's
something
we
have
to
see
every
day
and
it's
just
like.
E
But
to
be
clear,
I'm
not
proposing
that
we
take
that
into
account.
Our
decision
here
today
saying
this
is
the
time
to
say
something,
because
overall
planning
would
be
the
time
to
do
that,
especially
they're
putting
in
paving
I
know
when
I
was
with
city,
county
utilities
and
the
health
department.
We
tried
to
do
that
whenever
we
could
and
I'm
sort
of
disappointed
that
he's
not
using
their
opportunity
to
do
so.
It's.
S
G
S
S
T
Hello,
my
name
is
cheryl
childers
and
I
live
at
3119
chamblee
lane
and
I'm
not.
Can
you
spell
your
last
name
c-h-I-l-d-e-r-s.
T
3-1-1-9
chamblee
lane,
so
my
backyard
is
andrew
street
and
I'm
not
directly.
I
I'm
one
one
house
over
and
right
now
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
on
mcmullen
and
drew.
I
don't
know
if
you
ever
get
over
that
way,
but
it's
busy
it's
busy
busy
busy
and
it's
loud
and
it's
busy
and
I'm
concerned
also
about
additional
traffic
right
now.
There's
a
sign
posted
that
says:
watch
for
kids
and
that's
because
people
that
go
down
drew
street
just
barrel.
It
down.
T
So
what
I'm
afraid
they're
going
to
do
is
come
east
up,
calius
and
down
chamblee.
That's
where
I
live,
so
I'm
I'm
concerned
about
the
traffic
also
about
the
windows.
The
windows.
Are
you
going
to
look
in
my
backyard?
Are
you
going
to
look
at
my
house?
You
know
my
neighbors,
you
know
this
is
a
residential
area.
People
walk
their
dogs,
they
look.
You
know
it's
so
I
have
some
concerns
about
that.
A
The
planning
staff
and
the
applicant
will
have
an
opportunity
to
address
anything
that
has
been
raised
in
their
closing
remarks.
Oh
all,
right
would
I
have
another
opportunity,
after
that,
I
don't
think
we
have
that
in
our
format.
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
M
Both
names-
yes,
yes,
a
l,
I
c
j,
a
k,
a
c
z,
o
r
an
address
is
3112
featherwood
court-
I
am
my
property-
is
next
street
over
to
the
south
of
project
which
is
built
will
be
built.
Hopefully
my
main
consideration
is:
is
so
many
vacant
places
office
places
wide
build
office
space
35
feet
tall
in
a
total
residential
area
will
be
eyesore
to
everybody.
M
If
we'll
be
working,
we'll
be
watching
our
polls,
our
backyards,
what
we
are
doing-
and
it's
not
like
what
we
want
to
do-
and
property
that
property
probably
will
go
down
value
of
the
property.
Because
of
this
iso,
I
will
call-
and
that's
only
my
consideration-
why?
Why
why.
L
I
jotted
a
few
notes.
I'd
like
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
expressed.
L
L
The
side
east
setback
is
10
feet.
So
if
the
applicant
were
to
come
in
they
they
could
do
a
building
25
feet
tall
with
a
10-foot
east
setback,
so
they're
asking
for
a
35-foot
tall
building
and
some
of
that
extra
height
is
really
for
architectural
improvement.
So
the
effective
occupiable
area
is
say:
28
feet,
that's
to
the
roof
deck,
so
it's
only
three
feet
more
than
the
25
feet
that
would
otherwise
otherwise
be
permitted.
L
I
should
also
point
out
that
the
adjacent
property
to
the
east
is
zoned
low,
medium
density,
residential,
the
height
permitted
in
the
element
district
is
30
feet
without
any
special
permissions
without
anything.
So
really,
the
the
height
of
the
proposed
building
is
really
comparable
to
the
height
of
a
building
that
could
be
built
in
these
adjacent
or
nearby
residential
properties,
not
much
different.
L
As
far
as
the
magnolias
go.
We
really
encourage
our
folks,
you
know
when
they
come
into.
You
know
to
present
landscape
plans,
we
we
look
for
horticulturally,
responsible
landscaping
plants
and
the
spacing
of
the
magnolias
is
horticulturally
responsible.
I
I
wouldn't
have
anything
more
put
in
as
far
as
the
use.
There
is
a
concern
about
why
the
use
on
this
property.
L
L
I
can't
speak
to
the
windows,
but
again
a
single
family
home
could
certainly
have
as
many
windows
as
they
like
at
a
height
of
30
feet
and
as
far
as
septic
goes,
it's
not
really
a
zoning
issue.
If
you
have
questions
regarding
that,
I
can
probably
have
someone
from
engineering
speak
to
that,
but
we
don't
require
properties
to
provide
septic
for
the
entire
surrounding
area
or
sewer.
Through
any
questions
like
I
like
to
try
to
answer
them,
not
one.
K
L
Sure,
provided
that
they
meet
setbacks
in
the
lmdr
district
are
five
feet
on
the
sides
25
on
the
front
10
on
the
rear.
But
yes,.
R
R
Mr
klein
was
the
resident
who
spoke
to
you
first,
mr
perry
did
reach
out
to
me
and
introduced
me
to
him
by
email.
I
did
call
him
and
had
email
correspondence
with
with
mr
klein
the
same
day
that
we
that
I
was
introduced
to.
We
did
talk
about
the
sewer
situation
in
the
neighborhood,
obviously
being
in
the
city
and
development
for
commercial,
we're
required
to
connect
to
the
city,
sewer
system
and
the
red.
R
My
understanding
is
that
the
red
most
of
the
residences
they
are
on
septic,
some
of
the
ones
on
the
far
east
side
of
the
block,
are
connected
to
a
gravity
system
with
the
city,
I'm
the
one
who
provided
the
utility
atlas
to
mr
klein
to
show
him
where
we
were
connecting
since
then
ron,
moorhand
who's.
The
engineer
and
project
manager
on
this
project
has
looked
at
it.
R
We
need
to
have
a
discussion
with
the
city
staff,
but
at
this
point
we
believe
it
may
be
feasible
to
do
gravity
sewer
and
if
we
can,
we
want
to
have
discussions
with
the
city
about
doing
that.
Instead
of
lift
station,
we
are
open
to
the
to
the
option,
but
we
need
the
flexibility
to
look
at
to
look
at
that.
But
I
as
a
plant
as
a
planner.
R
So
we
are
definitely
open
to
looking
at
that,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
that
it's
feasible
both
from
an
engineering
perspective
as
well
as
for
you
know,
as
far
as
the
city
is
concerned,
and
so
on.
With
regard
to
the
hype,
the
as
mr
berry
explained
earlier,
and
you
have
some
color
renderings
that
were
put
up
during
the
presentation,
but
also
in
your
packet
or
some
black
and
white
flat,
elevations
with
dimensions
on
them,
and
I
don't
know
if
that
can
be
pulled
up
or
not
at
the
I'll
walk
you
through
it.
R
The
first
floor
height
is
from
floor
to
c
to
ceiling
is
13
foot
then
there's
two
foot
for
the
ceiling
and
four
in
floor
system
between
the
floors,
so
that
gives
you
15
feet
to
the
to
your
feet
arc
on
the
second
floor,
and
then
it's
10
foot
to
the
ceiling
and
then
there's
a
three
foot
roof
system
that
would
be
the
ceiling,
obviously
the
second
floor,
space
to
the
top
to
the
roof
deck
and
then
another
seven
foot
for
the
parapet.
Architectural
features
for
aesthetics.
R
It's
not
occupied
space,
so
the
top
10
foot
of
this
request
is
not
occupied
space.
It's
there
for
for
aesthetics
an
average
adult.
If
they're
standing
on
the
second
floor,
their
eyes
would
be
somewhere
in
the
range
of
about
20
feet.
So
you'd
have
13
foot
first
floor,
two
foot
for
the
again
for
the
floor
system
and
then
figure
about
five
foot.
If
you're
about
five
and
a
half
foot
tall
person.
R
Well,
let
me
jane
caldera
who's
the
traffic
engineer
on
this.
Can
she
speak
to
the
traffic
issues.
J
W
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
jane
caldera,
I'm
a
professional
traffic
engineer.
C-A-L-D
is
in
david
e-r-a.
I
reside
at
721
gulf
boulevard.
Indian
rocks
beach.
I
have
presented
in
front
of
this
board
before
as
an
expert
in
traffic
engineering.
It
was
a
long
time
ago
when
you're
in
the
other
building
on
the
second
story.
So
if
I
can
proceed
I'll
be
brief,
we
did
work
with
staff
at
looking
at
the
traffic
generation
for
an
office
building.
W
W
W
There
have
been
zero
crashes
on
the
drew
side
of
the
the
east
side
of
the
intersection,
which
is
the
side,
the
projects
on
and
the
overall
intersection
in
the
last
three
years.
All
four
approaches
have
been
zero
fatalities,
so
the
crash
rates
were
relatively
low.
In
my
professional
opinion,
like
I
said,
we
work
with
the
city
staff
on
the
access
and
we
actually,
I
don't
know
if
I
can
switch
to
the
site
plan
from
here,
but
you
will
be
able
to.
W
We
went
with
a
one-way
circulation,
so
we
had
the
driveway
as
far
east
as
possible,
so
you
will
be
able
to
exit
the
driveway
when
you're
leaving
and
take
a
left
to
go
back
to
the
traffic
signal
and
go
north
on
mcmullen
booth
south
on
mcmullen,
booth
or
west
andrew
also,
if
you
have
a
reason
to
go
towards
bayshore
and
go
to
the
east,
you
can
make
it
that
turn
also,
but
I
believe
that
was
a
question
from
a
resident
and
you
would
be
able
to
egress
the
site
and
use
the
traffic
signal
and
if
there's
any
questions.
S
J
S
So
there
was
a
speed
study
done
by
bennett
elbow
on
that
street.
It
was
well
documented
that
there
were
a
whole
bunch.
There
was
massive
speeding
going
on.
We
had
99
buy-in
from
all
the
neighbors
to
put
speed
bumps
on
that
road.
We
got
to
the
point
where
bennett
and
his
counterpart
came
out
and
spray
painted
the
bumps
on
the
road
where
they
were
going
to
go,
and
then
I
forget
his
name
paul.
S
Thank
you
from
the
city
decided.
I
just
don't
want
to
do
that
because
it's
clocked
your
road.
I
think
well
we're
not
interested,
in
your
opinion,
we're
interested
in
safety
of
the
children
on
that
road,
the
value
of
the
neighborhood,
the
houses
and
the
chronic
speeding.
That's
occurred
now
that
they
have
the
25
mile
an
hour,
speed
limit
splashing
in
your
face
and
the
people
speed
in,
in
spite
of
it
anyways
so
and
in
the
morning
that
line
of
traffic.
That
you're
saying
when
you
turn
left
out
of
that
property
is
jammed
up
with
cars.
S
X
Do
I
understand
it
correctly
that
the
is
the
only
flexibility
request
relative
to
the
height.
L
The
flexibility
requests
are
pertaining
to
height
and
also
to
set
back
to
building
the
setback
on
the
west
is
15
feet
to
the
south
10
to
the
north
12
feet.
Typically
front.
Setbacks
are
25
feet.
The
issue
is
that
this
is
a
tri-frontage
lot,
so
they.
L
Oh
yeah
there's
also
provision,
although
typically
that
would
be
handled
administratively,
but
it's
included
in
this
most
uses
require
at
least
one
loading
space
that
is
included
in
the
request.
The
app
loading
loading
spaces
like
that
are
usually
geared
for,
like,
like
large
trucks,
doing
large
deliveries.
The
applicant
has
told
us
that
they
anticipate
having
like
your
your
ups
and
fedex
van.
You
know,
making
typical
office
deliveries.
K
L
X
As
it
relates
to
this
higher
requirement,
as
I
understand
it,
it's
from
what
finished
floor
to
the
top
of
the
parapet,
wall,
correct,
yeah,.
X
I
see
the
top
of
the
parabola
and
then
there's
an
additional
architectural
feature,
but
I'm
not
sure
it's
going
to
change
sight
lines.
Has
there
been
any
discussion
or
willingness
from
the
applicant
to
to?
Is
there
any
ability
to
architecturally
provide
some
flexibility
there
to
reduce
that?
Has
that
been
discussed
at
all
or
not.
L
L
25
feet
is
the
minimum
standard
development
in
the
office.
Zoning
district
25
feet.
L
For
height,
well,
theoretically,
as
part
of
a
comp
infill,
you
can
request
almost
any
height,
which
you
know
they
can
ask
for
50
feet
or
100
feet.
L
L
L
E
I
don't
want
to
do
this
too
much,
but
I'm
getting
way
out
of
my
expertise,
I'll
admit
it,
but
what
the
decision
by
the
architect
here
is
that
they
want
they
have
their
rooms
taller
more
high
range,
let's
say,
build
it
higher,
so
you
have
offices
or
nice
side,
ropes
and
stuff
they're.
D
Y
E
It
for
other
reasons,
more
for
architecture,
so
you
can
rent
a
get
a
better
rent,
get
better
renters.
That's
the
design
of
an
architect
you're
we're
talking
about
how
have
we
changed
designs
of
buildings
over
the
years
and
that's
essentially,
what
is
by
having
it
having
it
taller
you
they.
I
guess
they
think
they'll
have
a
return
on
having
better
clients.
Is
that
sort
of?
What's
going
on
there?
Maybe.
L
L
In
my
opinion,
that
makes
for
a
better
project
overall
and
that's
what
the
code
requires
that
I
do
that's
the
specific
use
criteria
for
comp
infill
is
that
you're
providing
a
project
that
is
better
whatever
that
is,
that
certainly
is
subjective,
but
you're,
guided
with
the
criteria
that
the
project
has
to
provide.
You
know
articulation
of
the
fenestration
and
you
know
other
you
know
roof
lines
and
cornice
lines,
and
things
like
that.
It
has
a
whole
list
of
kind
of
tool.
L
Bag
items
that
you
can
do
to
make
a
building
look
more
attractive
than
normal
sure
they
can
probably
shave
it
down
a
few
feet.
Meet
their
25
foot,
do
a
bare
minimum
parapet,
wall
and
it'll
just
be
you
know
they
can
certainly
do
that.
In
my
opinion,
the
the
applicant
is
trying
to
do
something
a
little
bit
more.
E
K
I
look
at
the
landscape
plan
on
this
particular
project
and
I'm
looking
at
this
and
I
understand
the
four
magnolias,
but
you
also
have
to
plant
trees
that
give
you
space
to
to
grow.
I
believe
that's
part
of
the
staff
looking
at
things,
but
I'm
also
you
know,
there's
additional
plantings
on
this
site
that
are
also
gonna,
have
visibility,
blockage
and
buffering
to
the
east
and
and
surrounding
properties.
K
K
I'm
I
I
hope
you
look
at
the
traffic
thing
that
was
disconcerting
to
me
was
a
comment
in
here
about
traffic
calming
which
has
been
instrumental
in
my
personal
life,
that
I
would
hope
that
the
city
is
looking
at
if
you've
got
90
percent
of
the
residents
on
that
particular
street
asking
for
traffic
calming.
K
I
cannot
even
imagine
that
the
city
is
not
looking
into
it
and
I
would
think
that
you
would
take
another
effort
in
in
doing
such
I'm
glad.
You
brought
it
to
the
attention
of
the
board
and
it's
it's
you
know,
and
but
you
know
looking
at
that,
and
hopefully
they
can
work
something
out
with
the
with
the
drainage,
the
sanitary
sword.
If
that
comes
into
play
and
it
sounds
like
the
developers
will
be
willing
to
look
into
it
at
least,
and
the
city
obviously
has
made
some
comment-
that
they
would
too.
A
Anyone
else
have
comment,
I
think,
based
on
the
evidence,
we've
heard
that
this
is
something
I
would
recommend
proving
and
obviously
there
are
things
to
be
looked
at
in
the
future.
We
always
want
to
hear
concerns
of
people
who
believe
they'll
be
affected
and
appreciate
members
of
the
public
who
came
forward,
but
I
think
the
applicant
has
met
their
burden
and
the
project
ought
to
be
approved.
X
F
So
I
have
three
experts
to
be
sworn
in,
madam
chair.
At
this
time.
I
would
ask
that
you
that
the
board,
except
mr
mark
perry
as
an
expert
in
general
planning
zoning
redevelopment
planning,
land
development
codes
and
land
development
code
amendments
special
area
plans
in
overlay,
districts,
site
plan,
review,
landscape
architecture.
A
F
L
It
is
just
over
one
acres:
it's
a
consists
of
four
parcels
spanning
both
sides
of
east
shore
drive.
Three
of
the
parcels
are
located
on
the
east
side,
and
one
parcel
is
located
on
the
west.
The
entire
subject.
Property
is
in
the
taurus
zoning
district
and
in
the
marina
district
of
beach
by
design.
L
The
last
time
that
this
case
came
before
the
board.
It
was
for
74
units
a
building
about
65
feet
in
height,
and
I
should
also
note
that
this
was
also
the
subject
at
that
time
of
a
hotel
development
agreement
to
transfer
to
allocate
eight
units
from
the
reserve
that
application
also
included
transfer
development
rights.
L
So
that's
why
there
is
a
transfer
development
rights.
Amendment
case
number
with
this
one
as
well.
The
proposal
at
this
point
is
very
similar
to
what
was
previously
approved.
With
a
few
differences,
the
total
number
of
units
is
being
increased
to
91
hotel
units.
That
increase
is
due
to
additional
units
being
transferred
to
the
site
through
a
transfer
of
development
rights.
L
E
L
L
L
One
of
the
main
requirements
in
the
marina
district
is
is
for
the
provision
of
a
publicly
accessible
boardwalk
along
the
water
that
is
provided
with
this
proposal,
as
it
was
with
the
previously
approved
one.
So
there's
really
no
change
to
that.
They
are
still
continuing
to
provide
publicly
accessible
boardwalk
with
a
publicly
accessible
sidewalk
running
along
the
north
side
of
the
site.
L
L
You
can
see
that
they're
also
providing
docks.
Eight
of
the
slips
will
be
used
for
for
the
general
public.
Anyone
can
kind
of
go
use,
those
or
release
them,
or
what
have
you?
The
remainder
of
the
50
docks,
so
there's
50
slips
all
together.
The
remainder
of
them
will
be
used
only
as
accessory
to
the
hotel,
so
the
hotel
can
use
it
that
their
guests
can
use
it
or
the
hotel
could
use
it
for
and.
L
Yeah,
the
the
originally
approved
application
had
22
publicly
accessible
slips.
This
has
been
reduced
to
eight.
L
L
Again,
I
just
want
to
point
out
th
the
other
reason
that
this
has
to
come
back
besides
the
increase
in
height
and
the
increase
in
intensity
of
use.
Both
of
those
two
items
would
require
that
this
project
come
through
as
a
formal
amendment
is
also
for
the
transfer
of
development
rights.
L
The
staff
has
found
a
series
of
findings
affecting
conclusions
of
law,
which
leads
us
to
recommend
approval
of
this
proposal,
and
I
believe
we
have
43
conditions
of
approval.
If,
if
there
are
any
questions
that
I
can
try
to
answer,
I'd
be
happy
to
do
so.
A
L
Sure,
yeah
they're
very,
very
limited,
and
it's
limited
by
the
development
agreement,
so
we've
taken
aspects
from
the
hotel
development
agreement
and
incorporated
them
into
the
conditions
of
approval,
but
that
one,
yes,
it's
very,
very
limited
what
they
can
do
with
those
slips.
Yes,
no
fueling,
no
maintenance,
no
dry
storage,
yeah,
not
not
a
lot.
So
if,
if
you
have
a
boat-
and
you
want
to
rent
that
slip,
you
can
keep
your
boat
there,
that's
basically
what
what
it
can
be
used
for
all.
E
L
L
From
a
professional
planning
standpoint,
do
I
wish
there
were
more?
I
I
don't.
I
don't
really
have
an
opinion
on
that.
To
be
honest
with
you,
it's
whatever
works
best
for
the
project
and
if
they
decided
that
they
they
don't
want
to
be
in
the
business
of
being
a
marina
facility.
L
I
could
kind
of
understand
that
you
know,
because
hotelier
is
probably
very
good
at
being
hotelier.
You
know,
are
they
great
at
being
a
marina
facility,
business
operator?
I
don't
know,
but
in
this
particular
case,
eight
slips
works
for
them
and
they
believe
that
they
can
make
that
work
as
part
of
their
business
model.
E
L
E
L
Not
to
anybody,
no,
no!
No,
because
that
would
make
those
a
marina
facility
and
they'd
have
to
park
them.
No,
the
42
slips
that
are
accessory
to
the
hotel
are
for
hotel
guests
only
so
you
know,
if
hotel
guests
want
to
arrive
by
boat
rather
than
by
car,
then
they
have
a
their
own
parking
space.
You
know
they
have
their
own
boat
parking
space.
L
A
service
you
know
they
may
offer
you
know
a
fitness
room
to
their
guests
and
their
guests
only.
It
would
be
just
another
accessory
for
the
hotel
itself,
not
open
to
the
general
public.
Z
Afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board,
brian
on
65
port
street,
on
behalf
of
the
apple
again
411
e
s,
llc
and,
as
mr
perry
stated,
this
application
has
been
before
you
before
and
has
also
been
before
the
city
council
several
times
each
time
it's
been
unanimously
approved
to
move
forward
and
each
time
respectfully,
I
believe,
we've
demonstrated
it
has
improved
the
plan,
the
project,
the
design,
everything
about
it
has
improved
and
I'm
happy
to
say.
Z
So
we
spent
a
significant
amount
of
time
with
mr
mitch
and
his
team
and
with
gina
ella
and
lauren
to
make
sure
that
we
were
complying
with
all
those
provisions
related
to
transfer
of
density
rights.
One
thing
I
want
to
start
off
by
saying
is
that
it's
been
a
priority
of
the
city
planning
department
to
get
density,
reserve
units
into
this
east
shore,
pedestrian
boardwalk
area
and
one
of
the
great
things
that
this
site
is
going
to
accomplish.
Z
It
will
be
the
second
hotel
to
provide
for
that
15
foot
wide
public
boardwalk
that
eventually
will
connect
to
papaya.
This
site
doesn't
reach
as
far
as
papaya,
but
eventually
we'll
connect
to
papaya,
which
is
where
the
city
has
established
kind
of
the
head,
the
beach
head
for
that
public
observation,
deck
boardwalk
and
that
east
shore
project
does
connect
to
that
boardwalk.
So
this
will
move
that
boardwalk
south
closer
to
the
roundabout
and
closer
to,
hopefully,
some
pedestrian
access
to
to
feed
that
retail
restaurant
hotel
district
on
east
shore.
Z
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
is
that
the
slips
are
consistent
with
the
east
shore
slips
that
were
just
approved.
You
might
recall
that
application
bank
came
back
several
times
the
last
time
you
saw
that
application
in
december
for
455
east
shore,
the
courtyard
marriott
that
just
opened
up
it,
was
to
convert
eight
of
the
slips
to
marina
slips,
so
they
could
be
chartered.
Z
This
is
the
same.
You'll
have
50
total
slips.
Eight
will
be
charters,
that's
exactly
as
we
have
up
the
street
at
455
east
shore
and
is
consistent
with
that
application.
I
don't
know
what
miss
mckayla
is
going
to
ask
about.
So
I'm
going
to
reserve
a
lot
of
my
time
for
rebuttal
or
for
closing
to
try
to
answer
those
questions.
I
did
want
to
just
go
through
the
approval
process.
Again
in
case
there
are
any
questions
regarding
the
tbrs.
Z
Thank
you
ma'am,
so
mr
perry
has
always
did
an
excellent
job
in
his
39
state,
page
staff
report,
going
through
the
going
through
the
entire
history
of
the
site
and
also
talking
about
the
tdrs
at
length.
So
this
at
this
site
here
is
what
used
to
be
known
as
410,
420
camden
and
this
site
no
longer
exists.
Z
Z
There
available
a
condition
of
approval
on
that
fld,
because
my
client
was
only
using
11
of
the
18
units
he
purchased
from
hampden
on
the
74
unit
hotel.
So
there's
a
condition
of
approval.
That
said,
okay,
you
can
construct
those
11
you're
going
to
own
seven
more.
If
you
want
to
sell
those
or
do
whatever
you
want,
but
you
can't
develop
those
seven
extra
units
unless
you
come
back
and
show
us
seven
more
units
on
a
site
plan,
which
is
what
we're
doing
today
so
you're,
not
approving
the
transfer
of
that
density.
Z
That
density
has
already
been
transferred.
It's
already
been
sold
and
my
client
owns
it,
you're
approving
his
ability
to
actually
construct
those
seven
units
on
his
site.
So
there's
not
going
to
be
another
closing
with
the
hampden
site
there
that
that
is
done
now.
Subsequently,
that
hampden
site
was
unified
with
these
parcels,
which
were
also
subject
to
a
development
agreement,
but
that
didn't
increase
the
density
of
that
site.
It
increased
the
parking
and
that
application
for
405
coronado
was
already
approved
by
this
board
last
month
and
is
unappealable.
Z
So
that's
already
been
done
and
that's
been
approved.
Keep
in
mind
both
of
these
sites
are
subject
to
development
agreements,
so
this
has
already
been
presented
to
the
city
council
and,
in
both
cases
unanimously
approved
by
the
city
council.
The
city
council
doesn't
approve
density
transfers,
that's
your
job,
but
the
city
council
was
aware
that
this
is
what
the
plan
was
for
both
of
these
sites
and
blessed
the
concept
site
plan
for
this
site,
showing
91
units
and
for
the
405
coronado
sites
showing
those
units.
Z
The
other
site
is
bright
water,
and
this
is
where
we're
getting
10
new
units.
So
there's
28,
total
transfer
density
rights,
18
are
coming
from
the
hampden
site
or
have
already
come
from
the
hampton
site
and
10
are
coming
from
the
brightwater
site.
Mr
george
pappas,
who's,
an
attorney
for
the
seller
on
the
brightwater
site,
is
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
regarding
the
title
history
of
those
units.
Z
When
I
presented
the
development
agreement
to
the
city
council
in
december
and
explained
to
them
that
we
were
going
to
add
these
10
additional
units
at
that
time,
I
believe
they
were
at
somerset
on
north
beach
because
of
a
transfer,
a
deed
that
mr
pappas's
client
had
recorded
as
part
of
his
application
and
discussing
with
mr
minich.
That
deed
was
never
approved
by
the
cdb
and
wasn't
part
of
a
site
plan,
which
is
one
of
the
requirements
for
transfer
of
density
right.
Z
So
mr
pappas
and
his
client
has
have
corrected
the
recorded
title
history
of
these
units,
these
10
units,
and
they
do
remain
in
bright
water
under
a
developer's
reservation
of
development
rights.
So
this
bright
water
has
been
subjected
to
a
condo,
but
in
the
condo
docks
the
developer
retained
the
right
to
the
undeveloped
units
to
the
density
rights.
I
hope
that
answers
any
questions
about
the
tdrs.
I
really
don't
want
it
to
get
more
convoluted
than
that,
but
for
let
me
just
tell
you,
mr
mitch
has
looked
at
it
director
clayton's
looked
at
it.
Z
Mr
pappas
has
looked
at
it.
I've
looked
at
it,
carlton
ward's
looked
at
it,
so
we've
had
a
lot
of
attorneys
working
on
these
density
rights
and
everything
is
in
order
for
the
density
rights.
I
will
reserve
the
three
minutes
and
30
seconds.
I
have
left
to
add
to
my
three
minutes
at
the
end,
if
there
are
new
questions
that
I
didn't
address,.
J
J
J
It
could
be
if,
if
you
wish
to
do
that
at
some
point
in
the
future,
but
at
present
your
rules
do
not
require
do
not
provide
for
the
reservation
and
adding
out
of
time
in
others
in
other
portions
of
the
hearing,
and
I
don't
recommend
that
you
go
down
that
road
here
today.
Okay,.
A
Just
like
the
two
previous
cases,
so
it
unless
either
mr
house
or
planning
and
development
staff
want
to
cross-examine
each
other
for
some
reason
which
they
haven't
so
far.
Today
I
would
assume,
then
we
would
be
moving
to
comment
by
the
public
and
if
there
are
comments
by
the
public
that
need
to
be
or
the
applicant
wants
to
address,
they
could
do
that
in
closing
remarks.
They.
J
Can
do
that
in
closing
remarks,
but
I
think
what
mr
trump's
is
and
I
made
I
don't
want
to
be
misrepresenting
what
you're
asking
for
you
have
three
minutes
and
21
seconds
left
on
your
clock.
What
he's
asking,
I
think,
is
to
say
that
his
closing
argument
or
his
closing
remarks
can
then
be
extended
from
the
ordinary
three-minute
limitation
to
six
minutes
and
21
seconds
again.
I
find
that
not
authorized
by
your
rules
all
right.
Z
That's
exactly
what
I'm
requesting
about
sure
I
mean
I.
I
may
not
need
three
minutes
I
hopefully
address.
I
anticipated
what
the
questions
were
going
to
be
and
address
those
I
it
you
know
I
could
have
gotten
up
and
said:
hey.
I've
got
three
applications.
I
want
30
minutes.
I've
got
two
tdr
applications
and
an
fld
application,
but
these
are
being
combined
for
for
ease.
Z
So
I
would
just
ask
your
discretion
if
some
major
issue
that
I
didn't
anticipate
comes
up
during
public
comment
that
I
need
to
have
my
architect
or
my
marina
expert
address,
I'd
like
to
have
the
flexibility
to
do
that.
Just
like
the
last
applicant
had
I
don't
intend
to
do
it,
but
if
it's
necessary,
I
will
be
very
judicious
if
it's
not
necessary
to
not
do
that.
Thank
you
all
right.
J
And
I
would
advise
the
board,
you
can
take
those
requests
as
they
come
up,
but
I
would
I
would
not
recommend
you
prospectively
reserving
time
for
rebuttal
in
the
lake.
E
A
Everybody
else
agree
with
that
all
right
unless
there
is
interest
in
the
planning
staff
on
cross-examination,
mr
alexander
cross-examination
all
right
at
this
time,
we
would
call
for
comments
by
the
public
if
there's
any
member
of
the
public.
That
wishes
to
comment
or
raise
questions
regarding
this
item.
B
Christine
michalek
855
bayway
boulevard.
I
was
going
to
send
that
to
you
earlier
michael
l
e.
I
was
going
to
send
this
to
you
earlier,
but
unfortunately
I
couldn't
find
your
contact
information
and
I'm
moving
forward.
Do
you
have
an
another
copy
for
the
clerk?
Oh,
yes,
I
do.
Thank
you
along
with
my
individual
speaker
card.
B
This
is
not
my
first
time
before
you,
except
for
I'd,
like
to
welcome
mr
rector,
who
I
have
not
been
from
pam
today
we're
discussing
a
short
drive
which
I'm
sure
your
heads
were
spinning
with
all
those
tdrs
weren't
you,
you
were
wondering.
Oh
no,
another
tdr.
Well,
here
we
go.
This
project
has
been
has
been
three
years
in
the
making
and
they've
asked.
This
company
has
asked
for
flexibility
in
regards
to
height
setbacks,
more
units.
B
As
an
activist
for
our
neighborhoods,
I
will
share
with
you
today:
I'm
not
going
to
be
talking
about
a
setback,
because
mr
perry
has
told
me
that
everything
is
copacetic
and
that
it
meets
the
code
and
it'll
also
be
pinellas
county.
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
the
project
location
because
it's
in
the
commercial
district
and
as
we
know
the
courtyard
is
right
down
the
street.
So
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
that.
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
the
future
traffic
debacle.
B
This
narrow
street
customers
entering
walgreens
delivery
trucks,
cars
entering
the
roundabout
going
right
to
this
property,
and
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
that
because
that
was
discussed
earlier
in
the
marriott
courtyard
and
it
was
dismissed
as
we
will
it'll
all
be
fine.
What
I'm
talking
about
today
is
the
newest:
ask
the
inclusion
of
a
50-slip
marina
facility
and
a
commercial
dock.
I'm
asking
you
borg.
Would
you
please
preserve
our
clearwater
bay
and
mandalay
channel
waterways?
B
Let's
talk
about
the
elephant,
no,
the
manatee
and
the
in
the
room.
My
hope
is.
All
of
you
have
experienced
seeing
manatees
in
clearwater
bay.
My
hope
is
that
you
know
the
following:
hundreds
of
manatees
are
dying
for
red
tide
and
from
from
abuse
in
the
gulf
of
mexico,
thousands
of
mana
tides
manatees,
are
dying
in
the
indian
river
lagoon
from
starvation.
B
We've
had
a
massive
diet,
die
off
of
sea
grass,
not
only
in
the
indian
river
lagoon,
but
also
the
other
thing.
That's
most
recent
is
that
the
boat
industry
are
having
lawsuits
that
want
to
take
the
manatees
off
the
endangered
species
list
come
on
people
in
your
proposal.
You
will
see
that
woods
consulting
had
a
seagrass
survey
which
looked
at
this
property,
which
is
right
here
and
identified.
You
can
see
that's
the
yellow
area.
B
They
said
that
this
is
devoid
of
seagrass,
which
literally
nourishes
our
manatees,
and
it
said
also
that
that
we
really
do
not
have
to
worry
about
this
project.
If
you
look
at
this,
you'll
see,
there's
no
docs
there
right
now,
there's
no
docs,
and
I
also
want
to
point
out
to
you.
I
am
not
a
certified
ecologist.
B
However,
I
want
you
to
know
that
the
survey
that
the
wood
company
did
was
14
months
ago
before
during
the
covert
period,
there
has
not
been
a
lot
of
traffic
and
there
has
our
waterways
have
not
been
been
crowded.
Consequently,
can
we
assume
that
possibly
the
sea
grass
is
now
being
nourished?
I'm
asking
you
quickly
say
no
way
to
send
away
to
the
50
slip
marina
facility
and
demand
that
we
do
a
new
survey
to
see
if
seagrass
is
going
so
that
we
can
preserve
our
manatees
for
ourselves,
our
children
and
our
grandchildren.
L
Thank
you.
I
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
clarification
to
address
the
comments
that
were
just
made.
First
of
all,
the
the
slip
component
is
not
new.
This
feature
has
been
consistently
shown
since
the
first
approved
project
on
this
site
for
this
hotel.
So
it's
not
a
new
feature.
L
L
L
So
I
wanted
to
correct
those
as
far
as
any
of
the
environmental
issues,
our
our
engineering
department
has
reviewed
this
application
completely
and
have
had
no
issues
with
regard
to
the
proposal
there.
Any
other
questions
I
can
try
to
answer
them.
If
there's
anything
specific
to
environmental
issues,
we
do
have
our
harbor
master
here.
That
can
speak
to
that
and
a
representative
from
engineering
as
well.
E
E
E
E
Seagrass,
I
know
they
munch
at
my
dock,
all
the
time
and
and
the
speed
boats
go
by
the
intercoastal
like
crazy
and
they're.
A
lot
slower
and
a
jet
ski
is
less
damage
to
a
manatee
than
a
and
they
would
slow
in
here,
but
nevertheless
the
criteria
says
they
had
to
go
out
40
feet
to
get
out
of
the
sea
grass
there.
How
come.
L
E
Not
us
this
was
because
of
the
of
the
florida
and
everybody
else.
That's
a
lot
of
like
what's
different
here.
It
looks
unless
that
survey
has
not
been
done,
that
there's
not
really
sea
grass
and
that's
sort
of
a
not
a
really
good
picture.
It's
just
green
and
that's
possible,
but
I
just
it
wasn't
us
they
we
just
do
we
get
to
choose
which
ones
we
go
out.
84
feet,
foot
or
not,.
L
First
of
all,
it's
a
different
site.
You
can't
use
the
same
survey
for
seagrass
is
a
different
site.
To
finish,
I
would
probably
want
to
defer
to
the
folks
in
engineering
with
regard
to
environmental
issues,
as
well
as
a
hardware
master,
because
I'm
also
not
a
marine
biologist
or
anything
like
that.
So
I
I
can't
fully
answer
that
question.
J
I
don't
know
this
that,
based
on
the
nature
of
the
request,
I
don't
know
quite
what
it,
what
what
benefit
that's
going
to
yield
to
this
application,
since
that
matter
is
not
truly
at
issue
before
the
board
right
all
right,
I
mean
I
want
to
stop
you,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
see
what
use
it
provides.
A
Z
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Before
I
start
my
remarks,
I'd
like
to
ask
you
to
certify
miss
terry
scapic
as
an
expert
in
marine
design
and
permitting
including
municipal
projects,
private
projects
and
she
served
as
the
expert
on
this
application.
J
All
right
so
we're.
Z
Well,
thank
you
jay.
You
know
there
were
no
questions
at
the
conclusion
of
our
case.
In
chief,
I
have
three
expert
witnesses
here,
all
of
whom
have
provided
evidence
that
is
in
the
record
in
the
application
and
evidence
that
has
been
reviewed.
Z
If
you
don't
want
to
accept
miss
wood
as
an
expert,
I'm
sorry,
mr
skabik,
as
an
expert
to
provide
direct
evidence,
I'm
going
to
at
least
have
her
talk
during
the
closing
and
answer.
Mr
flannery's
question.
So
from
a
practical
perspective,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
an
answer
to
mr
flannery's
question.
If
you
don't
want
to
go
through
the
formality
of
accepting
as
an
expert,
that's
fine,
because
she's
going
to
answer
his
question
either
way.
E
G
J
I
mean
if
this
information
is
in
your
packet,
then
certainly
it
could
be
summarized
either
by
mr
longstone.
His
closing
remarks,
or
by
or
by
the
expert
herself
who's,
obviously
testified
many
times
here
before.
But
we
are
I'm,
I'm
really
more
concerned
here
about
process
and
not
necessarily
even
direct
to
this
application,
because
we
are
where
we
are
and
there
seems
to
be
general
agreements
between
applicant
and
city,
but
it
just
creates
problems
right
right.
J
It
creates
expectational
problems,
it
creates
reliance
problems,
it
creates
issues
moving
forward
online
as
to
the
application
and
enforcement
of
the
sports
rules.
A
J
D
J
Process
and
I'm
concerned
that
the
the
repeated
deviation
from
our
published
rules
may
be
construed
as
a
bridge
too
far
right
right.
So
my
suggestion
to
you
and
again
you
have
white
latitude
to
do
as
you
wish,
but
my
suggestion
to
you
is
to
receive
this
as
closing
remarks
versus
another
evidentiary
portion
of
the
hearing.
Z
You'll
proceed.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
brian
65,
for
street
again
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
just
to
address
a
couple
of
points
that
were
raised
by
miss
mccallick
and
also
by
mr
perry.
There's
always
been
a
doc
element
of
this
project
in
2009.
The
first
site
plan
approved
was
for
a
31
space
dock
in
2019
and
2020.
Z
The
development
agreements
and
site
plan
had
57
spaces
with
more
of
the
spaces
big
slips
with
more
of
the
slips
being
the
public
slips,
as
mr
planaria
talked
about
previously.
This
application
again
is
to
reduce
that
from
57
slips
to
50
and
to
reduce
the
number
of
charter
slips
or
rentable
slips
to
the
public.
To
eight,
which
again
is
consistent
with
with
the
east
shore
project.
Z
Miss
skatepix
is
going
to
tell
you
that
there
has
never
been
more
boat
traffic
in
our
waters
than
durankovic,
so
certainly
during
kobig
was
a
high
water
traffic
time.
It's
one
of
the
few
things
that
people
were
able
to
actually
do
relatively
safely
and
not
be
in
large
crowds
of
folks
and
have
a
recreational
activity.
Z
The
traffic
issue
again.
This
is
all
valet.
There
are
only
four
spaces
that
are
not
valet.
Every
car
is
parked
on
site,
so
it's
not
going
to
create
off
street
parking
just
like
you
had
with
the
455
eastshore
application,
I'm
going
to
stop
talking
and
I'm
going
to
ask
miss
skapek
to
go
ahead
and
close
out
for
us
and
maybe
address
some
of
the
other
issues
that
mr
flannery
asked
about.
Thank
you.
AB
Thank
you
brian
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
terry
skapek.
I
am
woods
consulting
owner
and
principal.
I
have
20
years
of
experience
in
marine
design
and
permitting.
I
also
stand
as
a
consultant
for
the
city
of
clearwater
and
I'm
on
the
team
for
the
clearwater,
beach,
marina
and
the
discussion
of
seagrass
is
very
timely.
AB
AB
You
can
see
the
seagrass
beds
were
identified.
The
docks
and
slips
themselves
were
positioned
appropriately
to
avoid
and
minimize
impacts
to
those
submerged
resources:
the
public
boardwalk,
which
was
a
huge
component
of
this
development.
It's
a
15
foot
wide
boardwalk.
There
is
only
two
to
three
feet
of
overlap
of
the
seagrass
beds,
because
the
seawall
is
being
heightened
at
this
location.
With
the
new
development
we
have
been
able
to
mitigate
those
impacts
of
seagrasses
by
the
elevating
of
the
dock.
AB
The
deck
of
the
boardwalk
is
going
to
be
flush
with
the
new
seawall
height,
and
we
are
also
going
to
have
alternative
decking
in
the
locations
of
where
the
seagrass
footprint
is
located.
So
you
will
probably
see
with
any
of
your
waterfront
development
projects.
Your
consultants
should
provide
a
seagrass
survey.
If
there
was
a
project
that
came
before
you,
where
there
was
40
feet
of
seagrass,
then
correct.
The
object
is
to
avoid
and
minimize
impacts
to
those
resources.
AB
A
G
And
chair
I'd
just
like
to
say
I,
I
share
the
concern
about
the
community
needing
to
do
better
on
the
protection
of
marine
life
and
manatees.
In
particular,
I
just
saw
manatee
just
six
or
seven
days
ago,
20,
feet
away
and
windy,
and
I've
seen
the
boat
traffic
through
other
channels
and
our
community
needs
to
to
improve
its
its
protection
of
marine
life
said
with
this
particular
application.
G
The
applicant
is
actually
asking
for
a
reduction
of
the
number
of
slips
that
have
already
been
approved,
so
I
don't
believe
that
a
denial
of
this
application
helps
our
community
do
that
in
this
particular
instance.
But
I
would
agree
that
the
city
and
the
community
in
general
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
protecting
our
marine
life.
E
A
I'm
sensitive
to
the
fact
that
this
project
has
previously
gone
through
multiple
layers
of
approvals
by
this
board
and
the
city
council.
The
new
changes,
I
don't
think
materially
affect
the
viability
of
the
project
or
whether
it
meets
the
code,
which,
of
course,
is
our
job
to
determine.
I'm
inclined
to
support
the
project.
K
One
two:
along
with
the
tdr
two
zero:
two:
zero
dash:
zero:
seven:
zero
zero;
two:
a
tdr,
two
zero:
two:
two
dash
zero
one:
zero
zero
one
based
on
the
evidence
and
testimony
presented
in
the
application,
the
staff
report
and
at
today's
hearing
and
hereby
adopt
the
findings
of
fact.
Conclusions
of
law
stated
in
a
staff
report
with
conditions
of
approval,
as
listed.
A
A
It
yet
all
right,
if
you'll,
give
me
a
moment
that
to
amplify
the
description
of
this
item,
it's
case.
A
A
The
location
is
.225
acres
located
on
the
west
side
of
el
dorado
avenue
at
the
western
terminus
of
island
drive.
Community
development
board
is
reviewing
a
proposed
non-opaque
four
foot
fence,
seaward
of
the
coastal
construction
control
line
in
the
low
medium
density,
residential
district
for
the
property
at
that
site.
The
project
requests
flexibility
for
construction
seaward
of
the
cccl,
and
you
are
interested
in
requesting
party
stats.
My
name
is
jacqueline.
P
And
I'm
one
of
the
property
owners,
my
husband
and
I
own
1001
el
dorado,
which
is
right
across
the
street.
We
have
an
easement
that
is
actually
tied
to
a
property,
1002
eldorado,
but
it
goes
between
a
thousand
and
a
thousand
two.
So
any
development
in
either
of
those
locations
could
impact
our
easement.
A
AC
G
U
Hello,
I'm
alfred
andrews,
dorado,
avenue,
alfred
andrews
and
just
like
party
status
to
be
able
to
state
my
thoughts
on
the
on
the
project.
A
Did
you
receive
notice
of
today's
meeting?
Excuse
me:
did
you
receive
notice
of
today's
meeting?
Yes,
I
did
all
right.
A
motion
to
except
mr
andrews
is
having
party
status.
Second,
all
in
favor.
I
opposed
all
right.
Thank
you.
A
The
board
has
granted
party
status
to
ms
bill
gore,
mr
andrews
and
I
apologize.
I've
forgotten
the
last
name
of
the
first
person.
Okay,.
A
The
board
has
granted
party
status
to
these
individuals.
For
this
case,
the
granting
of
party
status
entitles
you
to
these
additional
rights
to
personally
testify
to
present
evidence
by
documentary
submittal
present
witnesses
conduct
cross-examination
of
any
witness,
present
argument
and
appeal.
The
decision
to
board
to
a
hearing
officer
and
or
to
circuit
court.
L
L
Specifically
it's
for
a
fence
to
be
located
beyond
that
red
line
that
you
can
see
on
the
map
up
there.
The
proposed
fence
is
in
yellow
our
code
requires
that
any
structure
at
all
to
be
located,
seaward
of
the
cccl
go
through
a
level
two
approval,
as
well
as
obtaining
any
other
necessary
approval,
say
from
the
state
dep
or
anything
like
that,
and
fences
are
considered
structures
there.
I
H
L
For
other
projects
other
uses
and
other
zoning
districts,
for
example,
a
comprehensive
infill
redevelopment
project,
there
are
a
series
of
specific
use
criteria
that
need
to
be
addressed
for
cases
that
are
strictly
just
going
seaward
of
the
cccl.
The
only
criteria
that
I
have
to
look
at
are
the
general
applicability
criteria.
L
L
L
We
looked
at
surrounding
properties
both
on
site
on
aerials
and
we
are
able
to
identify
numerous
properties
in
this
area
which
have
either
historically
have
had
structures
constructed
see
to
the
cccl
and
or
have
had
flexible
development
approval
for
any
number
of
items.
For
example,
the
property
adjacent
to
the
north
was
approved
to
have
a
swimming
pool,
built
seaward
of
the
cccl
there's
numerous
boardwalks
that
have
been
approved.
Other
fences
that
have
been
approved
just
as
a
matter
of
historic
fact.
L
There
are
several
houses,
especially
going
up
to
the
north
that
have
been
built
prior
to
the
current
code,
but
have
been
built
seaward
the
cccl
planning
standpoint.
That's
the
limit
of
the
criteria
that
I
have
to
look
at
and
based
on
the
findings
of
fact
and
conclusions
of
law
that
we've
determined
based
on
the
applicant's
middle.
L
There
was
adequate
evidence
for
staff
to
recommend
approval
of
the
proposed
fence
to
be
built.
Seaward
the
ccco.
There
are
eight
conditions
of
approval.
I
want
to
make
one
correction
condition
number
one
has
the
word
boardwalk
at
the
final
design
and
location
of
the
boardwalk.
That
should
be
fence.
That's
my
fault.
Fat
fingers,
so
I
will
change
that
with
the
board's
approval.
F
Yeah
so
essentially
for
the
applicant
to
be
able
to
get
their
fencing
permit,
they
will
need
to
be
adjudged,
the
victor
of
this
lawsuit
and
the
owner
of
this
area
of
the
property
that
is
currently
in
dispute
between
the
property
owner
and
ms
ellen
bill
gore,
who
I'm
sure
will
give
you
more
information
on
a
few
minutes,
so
nothing
would
be
able
to
be
done
unless
the
property
owner
for
this
site
is
a
judge.
F
The
winner
of
the
lawsuit,
it's
a
quiet,
title
action
among
a
few
other
things,
that's
going
on
right
now,
so
we
wanted
to
address
the
concern
with
that.
So
the
board
could
feel
comfortable
moving
forward
with
whatever
decision
they
decide
to
make.
L
All
right,
I
would
add
one
minor
comment
you
may
ask:
why
is
that
not
a
planning
issue
or
that
that
I
would
look
at
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that
I
am
not
a
surveyor
when
we
receive
surveys
in
from
applicants,
surveys
are
signed
and
sealed,
and
I
I
I'm
not
qualified,
nor
does
the
city
go
out
and
resurvey
every
property
that
comes
in,
so
we
just
as
an
architect
sign
seals,
their
drawings
or
a
site
engineer
when
a
surveyor
signs
and
seals
their
drawing.
We
it's
a
legal
document
that
we
accept.
F
A
And
mr
pear,
I
have
one
additional
question
and
then
obviously
everybody
gets
what
or
they
want
that
prior
to
issuing
a
permit.
One
of
your
conditions
is
that
all
required
permits
from
the
florida
department
of
environmental
protection,
bureau,
beaches
and
coastal
systems
are
granted
to
the
satisfaction
of
city
engineering.
So,
to
the
extent
anyone
has
concerns
about
issues
that
are
outstanding.
A
That
would
be
an
impediment
to
issuing
those
approvals.
That's
a
condition
for
issuing
building
permits
for
this
fence
right,
correct
all
right,
mr
planner.
Oh.
E
L
L
A
lot
farther,
no,
it
goes
further
out.
It
goes
further
out
there.
Their
lot,
according
to
the
survey,
extends
quite
a
lot
further
west
towards
the
gulf.
So
why
was
that
line.
E
L
L
The
survey
for
the
subject
site
is
a
part
of
your
packet.
It's
required
to
be
included.
We
do
not
require
surveys
from
all
adjacent
lots.
It's
only
for
the
subject
site.
X
And
from
the
city's
perspective,
assuming
there
was
not
ongoing
litigation.
If
there
was
no
debated
property
ownership,
it
meets
the
criteria
based
upon
city
code.
L
Well,
I
simply
went
on
by
aerials
and
by
city
records
and
simply
identified
properties
within
a
a
reasonable
distance
from
from
the
site
that
either
had
a
flexible
development
application
approved,
permitting
construction
seaward
of
the
cccl
and
or
already
had
structures
that
were
constructed
prior
to
this
code.
So
they
wouldn't
have
necessarily
requested
a
mission
to
build
them.
They
were
done
prior
to
this
code
and,
as
I
pointed
out,
the
cccl
actually
runs
through
the
center
of
several
of
the
properties.
L
E
Yeah,
I'm
just
I
guess,
I'm
concerned,
I
know
that
there's
we're
taking
land
away
from
the
public
that
could
be
accessed
on
property
that
somebody's
walking
on
the
beach.
I
know
it's
a.
I
saw
the
pictures
they're
pretty
deep
beasts,
so
I
don't
know
how
much
I'm
picking
on
this,
but
nevertheless,
every
time
we
encroach
and
say
you
get
a
line
farther
in
it's
less
land
that
the
public
gets
to
use.
That's
all
I'm
wondering
how
much
are
we
giving
to
that
land
doesn't
belong
to
the
public?
That's
private
land
yeah!
E
L
No,
this
yellow
line
is
literally
going
about
25
or
30
feet
past
the
edge
of
the
cccl.
E
Y
Y
Thank
you
very
much
mark
was
touching
on
this,
but
I
wanted
to
clarify
something
that
was
stated
earlier,
where
the
yellow
line
is
where
the
fence
would
be
done.
That
was
originally
the
platted
lot
and
then
the
rest
of
the
property
that
extends
out
to
the
water.
So
there's
two
two
property
lines
that
merged,
so
the
fence
is
consistent
with
the
original
platted
plot
of
the
the
subject
parcel.
But
to
the
additional
question,
as
mark
was
saying,
this
particular
homeowner
owns
the
sandy
beach
out
to
the
meathead
water
line.
F
I'd
just
like
to
clarify
at
this
time
we're
not
entirely
sure
whether
or
not
they
own
all
the
way
out
to
the
mean
high
water
line.
That's
been
a
dispute
with
several
properties
in
this
area,
so
we
can't
say
that
for
certain
at
this
time,
but
the
fence
is
clearly
on
property
that
belongs
to
the
applicant.
AD
AD
The
the
planet
lot
that
they're
looking
to
fence
in
as
staff
has
already
gone
through
and
is
in
the
staff
report.
You
know
what
they're
essentially
asking
for
is
putting
a
four
foot:
non-opaque
aluminum
fence
that
will
border
the
northern
and
southern
property
lines
go
out
to
the
end
of
that
first
planet
lot
and
is
completely
consistent
with
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
including
the
next
door.
Neighbor.
AD
AD
AD
What's
next
store
consistent
with
your
comprehensive
plan,
consistent
with
your
code,
we
do
acknowledge
that
there
is
an
easement
that
runs
on
the
southern
portion
right
now
of
one
zero
zero,
two
el
dorado,
so
it's
not
actually
the
applicant's
property
that
is
affected
by
this
easement
is
miss
bill
gourds,
and
it's
an
interesting
easement
in
that
it's
not
the
typical
easement.
Where
you'd
see
it's
five
foot
wide
or
you
know
in
this
certain
location,
the
actual
easement
is
to
provide
foot
passage,
pedestrian
access
to
certain
homes
in
that
neighborhood
and
it's
at
a
spot.
AD
AD
What
I
can
tell
you
is
that
we
have
a
signed
and
sealed
survey
that
shows
that,
where
we're
proposing
to
include
the
fence
is
on
my
client's
property
and,
interestingly
enough,
the
survey
that
was
presented
with
ms
bill
gore's
application
for
a
flexible
development
application
was
a
hundred
percent
in
agreement
with
the
survey
that
we
presented
to
this.
So
there
is
a
new
survey
that
ms
bill
gore
has
had
done
recently
in
march.
AD
That
is
the
subject
of
the
litigation
to
quiet
title
I'd
submit
to
you
that
your
job
here
is
really
just
to
evaluate
the
request
before
you
you're,
not
giving
my
client
permission
to
put
a
fence
on
somebody
else's
property
line.
You
wouldn't
have
the
ability
to
do
that
when
we
get
to
permitting
if
the
city
does
not
feel
that
there
is
adequate
evidence
that,
where
the
fence
is
proposed
is
on
my
client's
property
line,
I'm
100
sure
that
the
city
and
the
city
attorney's
office
will
address
that
at
that
time.
AD
I
know
that
the
next
door
neighbor
has
requested
previously
that
this
item
be
tabled
and
I'd
submit
that
we
really
really
can't
do
that.
So
the
florida
statutes
give
about
120
days
once
the
application
is
deemed
complete
for
a
development
order
to
be
processed,
and
there
is
temporary
injunctions
for
temporary
injunctions
that
are
part
of
the
civil
component
of
that
lawsuit
that
I
you
know,
I
don't
want
to
bore
you
with
the
details
of
that,
but
that's
the
requested
relief
right.
So
the
court
has
the
ability
to
say
you
know
you
cannot
do
this.
AD
What's
in
front
of
you
all,
is
this
development
order
and
if
we
were
to
wait
for
that
judgment
from
the
judge
I'll
tell
you
even
the
temporary
injunction
motions
aren't
going
to
be
set
until
at
least
october,
based
on
my
correspondence
with
the
litigating
attorney
on
that.
So
we're
really
looking
for
something
to
keep
this
process
moving
along.
AD
You
also
are
not
giving
authority
for
them
to
go
out
and
build
the
fence
tomorrow,
as
you
all
have
already
pointed
out,
they're
going
to
need
the
fdep
approval
and
permitting
before
they
can
get
the
building
permit
and
then
again
the
building
permit,
I'm
sure
they'll
be
happy
to
address
the
property
issues.
I
would
object
to
the
condition
that
this
has
to
be
resolved
in
the
court
of
law
prior
to
them
being
able
to
install
the
fence.
AD
Certainly
it
may
be
that
my
client
would
even
willingly
move
that
fence
back
a
couple
of
feet.
Where
I
mean
we
are
talking
about
one
foot
just
to
be
clear,
I
think
it's
about
one
foot,
so
they
could
certainly
install
this
fence
in
an
area
that
isn't
even
in
conflict,
and
I
I
would
submit
that
that
would
be
acceptable
and
and
should
be
approved
by
the
board.
So
I
do
have
another
photo.
I
just
want
to
show
you
for
the
I
put
it
under
here.
AD
I
know
this
is
hard
to
kind
of
see,
but
that
way,
so
these
are
the
stairs
that
are
along
with
still
gorgeous
property
adjacent
to
my
client's
property,
and
you
can
see
right
there
there's
that's.
The
survey
stake.
Basically
the
rod,
that's
gone
where,
where
the
surveyor
has
confirmed
my
clients,
property
lines
are,
this
is
the
stairway
that
is
used
by
the
individuals
accessing
the
easement
right
now,
so
certainly,
there's
still
plenty
of
room
for
people
to
go
down
the
stairs.
AD
AD
It's
a
very
minor
area
that
is
certainly
important
to
both
homeowners
and
it
needs
to
be
resolved
by
the
court,
but
again
we'd
submit
that
the
application
before
you
we're
looking
for
your
permission
to
construct
a
fence,
you
were
to
the
cccl
along
my
clients,
north
in
southern
property
lines
going
out
towards
that
western
side
along
the
current
platted
lot.
That's
there
not
going
out
further
towards
the
gulf
of
mexico
at
all,
it's
consistent
with
next
door.
It
is
also
a
great
safety
concern
for
my
clients.
AD
Right
now
they
have
four
very
young
children
and
with
construction
next
door
and
obviously
the
pool
that's
there.
They
have
a
pool
fence,
but
if
something
were
to
be
left
open
and
it
could
create
some
sort
of
safety
hazard,
just
providing
this
extra
fencing
around
a
grassy
area
for
the
kids
that
play
would
be
peace
of
mind.
I
do
have
with
me
today.
The
property
owner
miss
jen
friedman.
If
you
have
any
questions
for
her,
but
I
expect
after
additional
testimony
here,
you
may
have
some
additional
questions
for
me.
AD
AC
J
As
the
first
party
status
and.
AC
Agreed
all
right:
well,
there
there's
a
lot
of
issue
here,
but
the
fence
that
mr
friedman,
mr
and
mrs
friedman
propose,
would
block
access
to
a
path
to
the
wall.
First
of
all,
it
goes
up
the
middle
of
my
steps.
AC
One
of
the
reasons
that
the
survey
I
never
actually
looked
at
the
old
survey,
because
I
had
had
five
previous
neighbors
who
didn't
care,
so
they
agreed
to
the
pool
being
built
where
it
was
built
when
this
other
survey
was
surveyed-
and
it
never
occurred
to
me
to
question
it
until
mr
friedman
decided
to
build
a
fence
and
put
a
red
piece
of
string
up
the
middle
of
my
steps
and
indicated
that
that
was
where
he
was
going
to
build
it.
So
I
had
the
property
resurveyed.
AC
I
have
a
copy
of
the
new
survey
here
and
apparently
the
old
surveyed
wasn't,
according
to
the
platt,
the
original
plaid
of
carlo
but
the
path.
The
defense
that
mr
friedman
proposes
would
effectively
block
the
path
that
we've
all
used
to
access
the
water
for
25
years.
As
I
said,
that
path
is
a
prescriptive
easement
by
virtue
of
our
continual
and
decades-long
use,
and
nobody
has
the
right
to
block
that.
AC
In
addition,
if
mr
friedman
bisected
my
fence,
my
steps
that
would
irreparably
damage
my
property,
which
actually
would
be
too
bad,
but
in
order
to
preserve
our
right
of
access
and
because
mr
friedman
claims
he
owns
property,
which
I
believe
is
mine,
according
to
carlawell's
original
plat,
I
did
file
a
lawsuit
to
quiet
the
title
and
the
outcome
of
that
has
yet
to
be
determined.
And
so,
if
mr
friedman
were
granted
the
ability
to
build
a
fence,
he
would
be
building
it
on
property
that
may
or
may
not
be.
His.
AC
G
AC
AC
E
E
AC
U
U
U
There
are
no
structures
other
than
maybe
one
walkway
to
the
north.
There
is
nothing
to
the
south
of
my
property.
I
I
share
a
trail
too,
with
two
or
three
of
the
properties
that
would
be
blocked
off.
If
someone
were
to
put
a
fence
up
and
then
you
would
have
to
make
a
new
trail
out
through
environmentally
sensitive
areas,
I've
got
some
pictures.
I
just
on
my
phone
sunday
afternoon.
I
was
sitting
there
and
a
bald
eagle
flew
over
me.
U
A
gopher
tortoise
was
eating
a
little
cactus
plants
right
next
to
me,
I
have
watched
the
sand
dunes,
the
beach
in
that
little
tiny
environmental
area
shift
and
change
over
over
over
the
years,
and
I
would
tell
you
if
you
put
a
straight
line
fence
going
out
towards
the
gulf
of
mexico
you're
going
to
affect
the
environment.
I
don't
know
what
the
wind
is
going
to
do
to
the
sand
dunes.
U
U
If
you
start
destroying
that
by
putting
fences
and
ellen's
a
good
friend
of
mine,
I've
known
her
for
many
many
years,
but
I
would
I
would
if
I
had
known
about
it,
I
would
have
been
upset
that
you
gave
her
the
permit
to
pull
that
damn
pool
there
too,
on
an
environmentally
sensitive
coastal
coastal
coastal
properties
is
all
I'm
saying.
U
You
don't
see
fences,
you
don't
see
anything
except
a
small
amount
of
really
really
neat
piece
of
property
that
the
city
of
clearwater
has
preserved,
has
not
allowed
to
be
destroyed,
and
I,
I
assure
you,
I'd
love
to
build
a
nice
little
walkway.
All
the
way
out
to
the
gulf
of
mexico,
for
my
kids
and
my
grandkids
could
all
go,
walk
out
there
and
not
have
to
walk
through
the
sand
and
get
sand
on
their
feet
or
see
the
neighbor's
yard.
U
That's
not
what
this
is
all
about.
You
know
if
you
wipe
out
those
gopher
tortoises
and
the
birds
and
the
the
the
beautiful
area
that
you've
got
for
our
tourists
to
come.
See
and
walk
up
and
down
that
beach,
I
think
it
would
be
a.
It
would
be
a
shame-
and
I
assure
you,
if
you
give
these
folks
a
permit
to
put
a
fence
out
there,
ellen's
probably
going
to
want
one
and
then
terry
balea
right
next
to
me,
the
hulk
hogan
has
got
to
want
one
for
his
privacy.
U
U
We
just
live
with
it,
but
we
have
such
a
beautiful,
beautiful
spot
right
in
front
of
us
that
I
hope
to
god
you
all
don't
let
anybody
build
anything
on
that
property
and
yes,
there's
one
house
that
this
gentleman
said
being
built
up
to
the
north
of
us
right
across
the
street
from
the
carlwell
yacht
club.
I
don't
know
what
they're
going
to
build
out
onto
the
beach.
I
hope
nothing.
U
Animals,
wind
everything
is
not
obstructed
by
that.
It
was
built
very
well
and
very
properly,
and
I
hope
we
don't
do
anything
more.
So
that's
my
thought
on
that
property.
It's
a
beautiful
spot
and
I
I
hope
we
don't
put
anything
on
it
and
let
nature
take
its
course.
I
think
it's
very
important
to
us
to
the
city,
to
the
people
that
live
there
and
to
the
environment.
P
Jacqueline
wells,
I'm
the
owner
of
1001
eldorado
and
have
owned
that
property
with
my
husband
for
six
years.
One
of
the
reasons
that
we
bought
that
property
is
because
it
had
a
deeded
access
to
walk
to
the
beach.
I
mean
we're
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
street
from
the
beach
and
so
we're
not
right
on
the
beach,
but
we
have
this
amazing
access
which
you
can
see
on
that
photo
and
a
meandering
path
that
I
mean
I've
used
it
for
six
years.
P
Ellen
said
ellen
has
used
it
for
20
some
years,
so
I
mean
it's
been
there
and
the
gentleman
that
spoke
before
me.
I
mean
there
are
other
paths
on
the
beach
that
different
houses
share
that
have
been
there.
I
mean
that
was
one
of
the
great
things
and
a
big
selling
point
for
us
to
purchase
this
house.
P
P
You
know
ellen
has
gotten
her
pool,
I'm
sure
the
friedmans
will
get
some
sort
of
fence
at
at
some
point
eventually
and
then
our
access
is
gone
because
I
mean
our
easement
is
a
recorded
deed
that
was
made.
You
know
back
in
the
early
70s
and
it's
for
a
five
foot
path,
a
deeded
path,
pathway
to
the
beach,
and
if
both
mr
mrs
friedman
and
miss
billboard,
get
offense,
then
all
of
a
sudden
I
mean
where's
the
easement,
and
I
mean
this
is
why
it's
in
litigation?
P
Now,
because
there
are
the
overlapping
surveys,
and
I
just
don't
think
there
should
be
any
decisions
made
on
anything
until
that's
determined-
and
I
mean
I
know
from
the
friedman
standpoint-
I
understand
they
have
little
children,
they
want
to
have
a
fence,
they
could
have
the
fence
further
in
and
that
would
not
impede
you
know,
cut
into
the
stairs
or
impede
you
know
our
access
to
the
beach.
P
You
know,
since
ms
bill
gore's
had
her
property
and
we've
used
it
consistently
for
six.
I
know
it'd
be
great
if
everyone
could
have
their
own
path
to
the
beach.
Everyone
wants
that,
but
the
gentleman
that
spoke
before
me,
I
agree
with
everything
he
said.
I
mean
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we
wanted
to
be
on
clearwater
beach,
I'm
from
sarasota,
and
we
have
property.
We
had
property
in
naples,
it's
completely
different
there
I
mean
this
is
there's
not
much
of
this
left
in
florida
and
you
know
seeing
bald
eagles.
P
I
see
the
bald
eagle
too,
the
gopher
tortoises,
that's
great,
I
mean,
and
it's
wonderful
that
it's
all
open
and
that
we
can
see
all
of
it,
but
I
I
mean,
I
also
know
things
change,
but
the
issue
here
is
the
fence
and
the
property
dispute,
and
I
just
I
don't.
I
don't
see
how
there
can
be
any
sort
of
approval
until
that
dispute
is
resolved.
A
O
O
It
says
this
section
establishes
within
the
city
the
coastal
construction
control
line
as
a
line
of
reference
from
which
setbacks
shall
be
measured
along
the
gulf
of
mexico
for
buildings
and
structures
pursuant
to
of
florida
statute
reference.
So
why
are
you
thinking
of
building
allowing
permission
for
something
west
of
the
coastal
construction
line?
O
L
Well,
to
to
directly
address
mr
johnson's
question
is
to
how
how
can
you
even
consider
it
well,
you
can
consider
it
because
the
code
says
in
section
3-905
c3
that
any
request
to
modify
the
section
of
locating
something
secret
of
the
cccl
can
be
considered
as
part
of
a
level
two
approval.
So
the
code
says
yes,
you
absolutely
can
consider
it
which,
which
is
what
we're
doing.
L
Other
than
that,
I
don't
have
anything
else
to
add
unless
there's
any
questions,
but
perhaps
we'll
pass
that
again,
I
would
reiterate
from
a
planning
standpoint:
we
don't
get
into
dueling
surveys
and
it
happens
quite
often
if
they're
signed
and
sealed
we
accept
them.
If
there's
an
issue
between
property
owners,
that's
up
to
them
really
to
sort
that
out.
A
All
right
any
closing
remarks
by
ms
wells,
ms
bill
gore
or
mr
andrews.
F
P
And
then,
who
is
so
just
because
I
just
want
to
understand
the
process,
because
because
bill
grove
got
a
pool,
I.
P
A
Be,
I
think,
we're
kind
of
further
along
in
this
process.
This
is
technically
closing
arguments
and
I
I
don't
mean
to
cut
you
off,
but.
A
F
D
U
Hi
there
guys
it's,
it
just
becomes
clear
to
me
that,
regardless
of
surveys
or
anything
else,
that
might
there's
there's
a
whole
lot
in
play
here.
A
whole
lot
of
different
things
going
on
this
whole
proposal
just
needs
to
be
denied
no
question
about
it.
It
needs
to
be
denied
and
moved
on.
So
thank
you.
Okay,.
AD
Just
a
few
points
of
clarification
from
some
testimony
that
you
heard
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
sandy
path
being
blocked,
I've
confirmed
and
all
the
plans
that
I've
looked
at
and
talked
to
the
owner.
It
will
not
block
access
to
that
sandy
path,
their
offense
that
they're
proposing
they
would
have
room
to
walk
between,
miss
bilgore's
pool
and
her
fence.
She
does
have
a
fence
permit.
There
will
be
a
fence
there,
but
it's
not
going
all
the
way
to
her
property
line.
AD
She's,
reserving
space
for
the
easement
as
she's
required
to
do
and
they'll
be
able
to
walk
down
that
and
access
that
sandy
path.
That
has
been
there
forever.
So
it's
certainly
not
going
to
block
anyone's
access
to
the
beach.
My
client
understands
they
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
do
that.
You
know
there
is
a
permitted
access
through
that
easement
and
he
can't
interfere
with
that,
but
that
easement
is
on
this
billboard's
property,
not
on
my
client's
property.
AD
My
client
has
the
right
to
utilize
and
enjoy
their
property
just
like
every
other
property
owner
up
and
down
that
beach.
You
know,
you've
been
you've,
heard
a
lot
of
testimony
about
a
civil
litigation
suit.
That's
going
on.
That
is
the
place
for
the
courts
to
decide
that
and
your
job
here
as
this
board,
is
to
review
it
to
see
if
it's
appropriate
if
it
meets
your
qualifications
under
your
code
for
the
flexible
development
application
and
I'd,
submit
that
all
the
expert
testimony
you've
heard
from
planning
staff
is
that
it
does
meet
the
qualifications.
AD
There's
not
that
many,
but
it
meets
the
comprehensive
intent
and
goals
and
policies
of
your
comprehensive
plan.
It
meets
the
code
requirements.
It's
consistent
with
surrounding
development,
they're
not
proposing
to
put
the
fence
out
onto
the
dunes.
They
will
have
to
comply
with
all
of
fdep
requirements.
AD
AD
So
that
would
be
my
recommendation
if
you
are
inclined
to
keep
that
condition,
I
personally
don't
don't
see
a
reason
for
it.
I
think
that's
why
the
courts
are
involved
and
they
should
be
the
ones
to
determine
whether
or
not
a
fence
can
be
placed
there
removed.
We're
simply
looking
for
your
direction
and
approval
for
an
offense.
You
work
at
the
cccl
on
my
client's
property.
AD
E
E
E
Question
is
a
legal
one
of.
Does
the
city
want
people
building
and
doing
things
beyond
the
coastal
construction
line?
That's
a
thing
about
our
our
ratings
for
insurance.
Things
like
that.
We
don't
want
people
building
out
they'll,
get
washed
away.
It's
a
flood
control
question.
It's
a
sea
level
rise
question.
E
It's
all
those
things
and
what
concerns
us
here
is
the
question
with
and
that's
what
I
kept
trying
to
get
they
own
the
land.
Okay,
they
get
out
all
the
land
all
the
way
out
to
the
water,
but
they
can't
build
beyond
the
cc
line.
Now
this
thing
on
the
side
has
nothing
to
do
with
it.
We're
that's
not!
Our
question
is
how
far
north
and
south
this
thing
is:
it's.
E
Can
they
get
closer
to
the
water
where
we're
putting
endangering
our
own
credit
rate,
our
flood
insurance
rating
by
putting
stuff
out
too
close
to
the
water,
it
can
be
then
flooded
away
and
the
feds
have
to
fix
it
and
pay
insurance.
So
that's
our
question
is
just
how
far
out
do
we
allow
them
to
go
in
the
cc
line?
E
We
can
say
we
don't
want
you
to
go
out
at
all
beyond
the
cc
line.
Ccli!
That's
it,
but
that's
not
on
the
side.
Question
that
doesn't
even
change
their
access
at
all.
They
can
still
go
right
to
where
that
line
was
and
put
that
stake
right
there
not
change
the
access
down
that
ladder
that
doesn't
do
it
to
me.
The
question
is
simply
I'm
looking
at
and
that's
why
I
won
the
picture
of
the
pool.
Why
did
we
allow
the
pool
to
go
out
into
the
ccli
2.
E
now?
If
we
tell
these
this
applicant
that
they
can't
build
into
the
ccli,
then
we
have
to
say,
then
why
did
we
let
the
people
with
the
pool?
Next
to
you,
we
should
have
stopped
it
right
there.
If
we
didn't
like
it,
that's
what
we
should
have
done
and
if
we
do
them
somebody
else
next
door
is
going
to
say.
I
want
to
do
that
too,
which
only
makes
sense,
but
that
has
nothing
to
do
along
with
this
way.
They
surveyed
the
land
between
this.
E
That's
a
legal
question
and
we're
having
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
fight
over
two
feet
between
properties
are
worth
quite
a
bit
and
it
seems
like
they.
You
know
to
me,
I
just
say:
hey
I'll,
let
you
have
it,
but
that's
not
my
land,
that's
for
me,
but
that's
not
what
we're
here
for
we're
saying
ccle
now.
I
think
our
vote
is
simply.
E
F
F
K
K
V
D
Q
F
AD
AD
E
F
Think
my
I
think
my
client
just
wants
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
verify
specifically
what
area
is
undisputed,
so
we
can
make
sure
we're
permitting
something
in
the
correct
area
and
that's
why
we
want
some
additional
time
just
one
additional
we,
we
would
bring
this
back
at
the
next
meeting.
In
the
meantime,
you
and
I
could
coordinate
and
make
sure
we
have
all
that
correct
and
then
it
would
be
an
easier
process
at
the
next
meeting
for
everyone.
A
AD
Well,
I
I
don't
understand
why,
if
there's
that
condition
that
it
can't
be
in
a
disputed
area,
when
we
come
into
building
permit,
which
is
probably
going
to
be
months
down
the
road
because
of
fbp
approvals,
we
can't
submit
the
information
to
your
office
for
you
to
confirm
whether
or
not
it's
in
a
disputed
area.
I.
AC
AD
J
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
A
F
Some
decision
made
so
I've
spoken
with
miss
rubenstein.
What
we
agreed
to
do
is
we'd
like
to
continue
to
next
month's
meeting.
In
the
meantime,
that
will
give
give
us
time
to
meet
with
miss
billboard's
attorney.
Miss
rubenstein,
and
I
can
get
together
with
whatever
planning
and
building
staff
may
be
required
to
figure
out
which
area
is
absolutely
not
disputed,
and
then
we
should
be
able
to
come
back
and
ask
for
a
fence
that
is
in
an
area
that
we
all
agree
that
can
be
dealt.
A
J
J
A
J
D
A
A
All
level
three
cases,
such
as
a
plan,
amendment
rezoning
or
development
agreement,
are
considered
legislative
hearings,
the
community
development
board
reviews
the
application,
the
staff
report,
correspondence
and
all
evidence
presented
today
and
makes
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
for
level
three
applications.
The
city
council
makes
the
final
decision
the
procedure
for
all
level.
A
A
F
AE
AE
The
request
today
is
to
change
the
future
land
use
map
designation
of
the
subject,
property
from
residential
low
to
institutional
and
request
to
rezone
the
property
from
the
low
medium
density.
Residential
district
to
the
institutional
district
is
being
processed
concurrently.
With
this
case
and
that's
case,
rec
2022-04004.
D
AE
It
needs
to
be
noted
that
the
community
development
code
only
permits
places
of
worship
in
the
institutional
zoning
district
which
necessitated
a
need
for
those
future
land
use
map
and
zoning
atlas
amendments
so
that
the
existing
church
would
remain
conforming
once
annexed
it
to
the
city,
the
future
land
use
and
zoning
atlas.
Amendments
were
heard
before
the
community
development
board
in
early
2015
and
at
that
meeting,
concerns
are
raised
by
the
neighbors
about
the
increased
number
of
uses
permitted
in
sea's
institutional
district,
a
greater
development
potential
and
intensity
traffic
and
noise
from
the
church
property.
AE
In
early
2018,
the
applicant
contacted
staff
because
the
church
was
looking
to
create
a
master
plan
which
included
the
subject:
property
1885-0193,
which
is
a
parcel
to
the
north
of
their
bank
church
campus
in
late
2018,
the
applicant
submitted
applications
to
amend
the
future
land
use
map
and
zoning
atlas
designations
to
institutional
cases.
Lep
2018-11008
and
rec
2018-12005
staff
recommended
denial
of
these
cases.
AE
These
requests
in
2018
did
not
include
a
site
plan
as
they
are
not
required.
However,
at
the
community
development
board
meeting
in
early
2019,
the
applicants
introduced
a
conceptual
site
plan
that
showed
a
new
multifunction
building
on
the
subject
property
as
such
staff,
nor
the
board
were
able
to
adequately
review
that
conceptual
site
plan
prior
to
the
meeting
again
at
that
meeting,
neighbors
again
raised
concerns
about
traffic.
AE
Greater
number
of
uses
increased
development
potential
and
noise
from
the
existing
church
property
through
discussion
at
that
meeting
staff
study
to
the
applicant
and
to
the
board
that
the
non-residential
austrian
parking
was
a
permitted
use
in
the
existing
low
medium
density
residential
zoning
district
and
that
pursuing
that
option
as
part
of
their
master
plan
conceptions
would
not
require
the
need
for
future
land
use
map
amendment
or
zoning
atlas
amendment.
AE
AE
The
two
conceptual
plans
were
similar
to
the
one
presented
at
that
2019
ctb
meeting
and
staff
recommended
and
encouraged
the
applicant
to
look
for
solutions
where
new
structures
were
limited
to
the
existing
church
parcel
currently
designated
as
institutional
which,
again
there's
to
the
south.
2930
cr193
staff
also
noted
that
expansion
of
the
institutional
future
languages
and
zoning
was
inconsistent
with
many
of
the
relief
criteria
in
the
code.
AE
AE
The
existing
institutional
future
land
use
on
the
maine
church
campus
has
a
maximum
development
potential
of
up
to
126
534
square
feet.
The
exist
development
development
on
the
main
campus
is
approximately
twenty
nine
thousand
two
hundred
and
forty
seven
square
feet,
which
leaves
a
potential
of
up
to
ninety
seven
thousand.
Two
hundred
and
eighty
seven
square
feet
of
road
realized
development
potential
across
that
site.
The
main
church
campus
could
support
expansion
of
the
church
without
the
need
to
expand
the
institutional
future
language
category
to
the
north.
AE
The
current
mix
of
future
land
use
categories
is
generally
sufficient
in
this
area
to
support
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
which
is
more
rural
than
most
areas
of
the
rest
of
the
city.
Although
institutional
uses
can
be
compatible
with
in
and
near
residential
areas,
the
scale
and
operational
characteristics
of
that
use
are
important
factors.
The
request,
as
submitted,
does
not
demonstrate
how
the
expansion
of
the
institutional
future
languages
by
an
additional
2.618
acres
as
proposed,
would
not
adversely
affect
the
community
character
and
quality
of
life
of
your
overall
neighborhood.
AE
While
there
are
properties
designated
institutional
in
the
vicinity,
the
largest,
the
sylvan
abbey
furnace,
home
and
church,
which
has
direct
access
to
sunset
point
road,
which
is
a
minor
rtr
room.
Cr193,
is
a
two-lane,
undivided
local
road
that
lacks
sidewalks
and
presents
several
challenges
most
notably.
That
is
a
short
dead-end
road,
with
no
obvious
solutions
or
opportunities
to
build
a
connection
through
to
a
second
outlet.
AE
The
paul
b
stephens
school
to
the
south
and
the
church
likely
use
a
large
portion
of
the
roadway's
maximum
capacity
and
additional
development
would
further
strain.
The
roadway
staff
is
concerned
with
the
expansion
of
the
institutional
future
land
use
would
allow
development
that
is
out
of
character
or
would
have
negative
impacts
in
the
area.
AE
As
stated
and
further
detailed
in
the
staff
report,
the
request
is
inconsistent
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
clearwater
comprehensive
plan
and
does
not
further
the
request.
As
stated
in
the
staff
report,
the
future
language
math
amendment
would
require
an
amendment
to
the
county-wide
plan
map
from
residential
or
medium
to
public
semi-public.
AE
The
proposed
institutional
future
language
category,
which
primarily
allows
for
public
private
schools,
churches,
public
offices
or
residential
equivalent
uses,
is
consistent
with
the
church
broadly
to
the
south.
However,
the
expansion
of
the
institutional
future
land
use
onto
additional
2.618
acres
of
land
creates
uncertainty
regarding
compatibility
with
properties
designated
residential
low
and
residential
suburban,
which
exists
to
the
north
and
the
east.
AE
AE
The
prose
expansion
would
increase
the
demand
on
both
water
wastewater
and
solid
waste
when
compared
to
the
existing
use
of
detached
dwelling.
However,
it's
determined
that
those
increases
would
not
result
in
the
degradation
of
the
existing
levels
of
service
for
those
facilities,
as
well
as
park
lands
or
water
management.
AE
The
current
number
of
trips
per
day
per
acre
175
trips
is
calculated
based
on
the
traffic
generation
numbers
under
the
counterweight
rules,
residential
medium
category,
which
is
67
trips
per
day
per
acre.
The
proposed
number
trips
under
the
proposed
public
semi-public
category
would
be
272
trips
based
on
104
trips
per
day,
breaker.
That
is
a
difference
of
97
trips.
As
stated
earlier,
cr193
is
a
two-lane,
undivided
dead-end
road
that
lacks
sidewalks.
F
AE
F
Okay
and
if
the
development,
it's
our
understanding
that
there
may
be
some
type
of
development
proposed
by
the
church
on
the
northern
parcel,
possibly
an
expansion
of
the
church.
But
if
that
isn't
completed,
then
there
would
be
a
number
of
other
options
of
things
that
could
now
be
permitted
on
those
correct.
F
AF
F
With
the
surrounding
abuses
in
the
neighborhood
in
general-
yes,
that
would
be
my
professional
opinion
and
just
one
more
thing,
I'd
like
to
clarify
the
board
real
quickly
on
page
six
of
our
staff
report,
there
are
a
number
of
goals,
objectives
and
policies
that
are
stated
there,
and
it
says
in
the
top
which
support
the
proposed
amendment.
That
was
supposed
to
be
saying
something
along
the
effect
of
does
not
support
the
amendment,
so
those
are
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
that
this
change
in
use
would
actually
not
support.
C
Good
morning,
here
or
good
afternoon,
madam
chair
board
members
todd
pressman,
200,
2nd
avenue
south
number
451
in
st
petersburg
florida.
I
am
glad
and
honored
to
be
representing
the
saint
mary
and
saint
mina
coptic
orthodox
church,
I'm
here
this
evening
or
this
afternoon
with
father
menna,
galli,
father,
jeremiah
bishop,
mr
amir
malik,
who's,
a
board
member,
mr
john
gabriel,
who's,
a
board
member
and
saeed
gurgis
who's.
Also
a
board
member
are
present
here
today.
C
Mr
butherton
has
done
a
good
job
of
orienting
to
the
site.
This
is
where
we're
located
in
the
city
and
located
a
little
bit
closer.
As
you
can
see
on
sunset
point
road:
this
is
the
coptic
orthodox
diocese
of
the
south
united
states,
saint
mary's,
meena
coptic
orthodox
church
is
before
you
today,
as
as
laid
out
to
you.
C
The
existing
church
has
shown
the
subject
partial
before
today
is
immediately
to
the
north,
to
the
north
of
that
is
an
alf
sylvan
abbey
is
on
one
side
the
private
schools
together
and
residential
to
the
east.
So
today's
issues
expand
the
church
currently
owned
to
the
northern
parcel,
we're
looking
at
the
future
land
use.
At
the
moment,
as
you
can
see,
institutional
is
the
predominant
category
future
land
news
counter,
as
you
can
see
in
the
immediate
area
with
lmdr.
C
C
AG
C
Existing
church
was
annexed
in
2014.,
church's
subject's
parcel
is
to
the
north,
so
this
came
before
this
board
and
the
city
commission
was
approved
for
annexation
for
the
existing
parcel
in
2014,
and
this
is
very
important
members.
If
you
look
at
the
diagram
and
mapping
above
when
this
came
in
in
2014
staff,
supported
it
lmdr
or
the
surrounding
feature,
land
use
categories
found
it
consistent,
compatible
an
asset
to
the
area.
C
We
would
submit
you
that's
literally
impossible,
because
the
exact
same
uses
and
the
exact
same
future
land
you
scan
are
going
the
exact
same
zoning
categories
or
budding.
This
parcel
now
nothing's
changed
except
staff.
Now
is
denying
it
and
previously,
when
the
site
came
in
for
annexation,
this
board
and
the
city
commission
approved
it
same
thing
with
the
zoning.
I
know
we're
not
talking
about
zoning
but
they're
a
little
bit
intertwined
same
rl
rs
same
ll
and
rs
today
same
uses,
but
your
staff
is
saying
it's
incompatible
doesn't
meet
the
area
character.
C
F
C
J
A
All
right,
we'll
we'll
hear
what
you
have
to
say
and
with
your
objection
noted.
C
And
again,
this
is
really
just
a
deception.
We
wanted
to
give
an
idea
for
your
and
the
citizens
who
are
interested
as
to
what's
proposed
so
what's
proposed.
First
of
all,
the
bottom
half
is
what's
existing.
This
would
be
proposed
just
on
the
north
of
function,
which
is
two-story,
twenty-eight
thousand
square
feet
which
would
build
for
building
for
church
uses,
which
is
meeting
rooms,
youth
sports
activity
in
sunday
school.
Quite
frankly,
they
want
to
have
a
youth
area
and
sports
area
for
kids
during
the
summer
months
to
be
able
to
have
sports
activities
interior.
C
We
do
support
for
the
request,
the
property
owner
immediately
to
the
north
supports
request.
This
is
his
petition,
as
some
other
petitions
to
submit
to
the
record
so
immediately
to
the
north
is
supporting
and
we
also
have
a
signature
support
from
all
the
property
owners
to
the
west.
As
I
said
to
the
north,
to
the
south
is
the
school
and
a
couple
residences
to
the
east,
so
this
site
has
had
to
test
the
time
again
the
exact
same
future
land
use
as
zoning
the
proposed
use
is
interior
for
church
activity
also
provides
parking
and
retention.
C
We
feel
that
we
have
good
support
from
the
abundant
owners
and
per
the
standards
of
view.
The
area
is
predominantly
the
area
is
predominantly
industrial.
Now
your
staff
has
determined
that
the
difference
of
trips
is
only
97
trips
per
day,
but
the
thing
that
your
staff,
we
believe
have
not
considered
and
your
staff
does
a
great
job,
but
we
believe
the
thing
they
haven't
considered
is
that
the
church
uses
don't
tie
into
typical
residential
uses
or
rush
hour
uses.
C
As
they've
indicated,
the
staff
report
there's
a
prayer
meeting
of
4
45
there's
a
meeting
of
brotherhood,
maybe
at
9
45,
but
there's
no
rush
hour
of
people
going
to
work
like
the
residences
would
they're
not
involved
with
the
school.
So
it's
not
going
to
involve
the
school
to
the
south.
C
Although
it's
97
trips,
they
don't
coincide
nor
conflict
with
the
typical
uses
of
a
church
and
the
typical
uses
of
a
school
and
the
residential
uses
also
indicated
by
your
staff,
is
that
there
is
almost
a
hundred
thousand
square
feet
of
developable
land
on
the
existing
church
property.
That's
not
before
you.
C
They
could
do
this
expansion
and
much
much
more,
but
it
doesn't
configure
to
the
property
to
configure
the
property
configures
to
the
north,
where
they
can
attach
and
have
a
walkway
to
the
building
and
keep
that
activity
all
the
way
interior
further
from
the
residential
to
the
east.
That's
why
we're
looking
to
the
north
and
why
the
church
has
it
and
they
own
it.
C
When
we
look
at
the
criteria
and
future
land
use
categories,
there
are
categories,
or
there
are
complaint
policies
that
do
support
this
request.
A
5.5.1
development
should
be
designed
to
maintain
and
support
the
existing
envisioned
character
of
the
neighborhood.
Well,
certainly,
the
character
or
vision
of
the
neighborhood
can't
be
missed
by
this
church
structure,
which
is
the
major
structure
and
major
resident
or
major
vision
and
use
of
the
area.
C
Comp
policy,
a
5.5.2,
preserved,
unique
qualities
of
clear
water
and
its
cultural
heritage,
as
exemplified
by
historical
buildings
or
landmarks
landscape
street
states,
which
I
think,
if
I
showed
you,
those
pictures.
We
certainly
meet
that
standard
and
regarding
8.6.2.2,
encourage
land
use,
conversions
on
economically
unutilized
parcels
and
corridors
and
promote
redevelopment
activities
in
these
areas,
which
is
what
we're
doing
here
and
a.6.2.1
community
obama
code
site
plan
approval
process
shall
be
utilized
to
promote
infill
development
and
or
plan
developments
that
are
compatible.
C
So
there
are
policies
to
look
at
and,
as
we've
looked
at
this
site
and
consider
what
has
come
through
the
city,
we
feel
it's
compatible.
It
clearly
is
compatible
when
it
came
in
for
annexation,
same
future
languages,
categories
same
zonings
and
almost
that
nature.
So
with
that
man
and
chair,
we
appreciate
your
time
and
attention
and
look
forward
to
answering
questions,
and
let
me
put
this
in
the
record
for
you.
If
you
may
do
it
over.
AA
F
C
We
present
it
to
their
fax
and
we're
very
confident
to
leave
those
facts
up
to
the
board
to
make
that
decision.
We
think
the
presentation
is
very
straightforward
in
terms
of
how
the
city
reviewed
this
site
before
and
how
they're
reviewing
it
now.
H
H-U-N-S-I-C-K-E-R-2939
sunrise
drive,
I
am
the
vice
president
of
the
neighborhood,
I'm
sorry
kevin.
Yes,
man,
I've
been
in
front
of
the
board
in
2019
we
presented,
and,
mr
president,
I've
known
for
40
years
is
a
very
elegant.
Speaker
he's
worked
on
my
private
cases
in
my
business
career
that
I
retired.
H
This
is
all
of
our
neighbors
that
have
signed
that
they
are
in
objection.
I've
talked
to
the
neighbors
at
castlewood.
They
are
in
objection.
They
presented
themselves
as
the
neighborhood
is
not
objective.
The
church
comes
across
as
a
very
nice
entity,
but
they
are
not
a
good
entity
as
a
neighbor.
They
are
noisy.
H
They
say
they
only
do
certain
times.
Five
weeks
ago
I
sent
pictures
that
were
provided
to
brent
that
they
had
better
than
seven
to
eight
vacated
vehicles
on
the
property
with
no
fights
they
do
things
a
little
bit
odd.
They
have
activities
that
go
on
late
at
night.
You
know
generally
welcome
any
of
you
members
to
set
up
my
house
where
my
house
is
in
the
back
corner
of
the
forward
12
private
homes,
and
it
brings
it
out
through
there.
They
have
lights.
H
H
We
have
mentally
challenged
kids
in
our
neighborhood
when
the
school
is
in
and
buses
come
buses,
don't
even
I
mean
they
block
our
street
there's
been
times.
We've
had
neighbors
literally
setting
in
sunset
point
waiting
for
the
congeniality
of
someone
giving
us
a
break,
so
we
can
get
into
our
neighborhood
the
church
people
do
that
they
are
not,
as
as,
mr
president
likes
to
say,
being
supportive.
H
H
H
H
H
We,
when
we
built
the
neighborhood
city
required
us
to
put
sidewalks
sewers
and
culverts
in.
We
did
that
neighbors
all
paid
for
that
sidewalks
are
there
to
the
north
end
of
our
property.
There
are
no
other
sidewalks.
So
when
we
walk
our
kids,
our
grandkids
our
pets,
we
have
to
walk
in
the
middle
of
the
street
or
we
walk
under
the
gutters.
H
They
we
there's
little
little
signs.
That
say:
beware
of
kids,
you
know,
there's
there's
a
big
concern
of
growth
traffic.
It's
an
uncontrollable
incompatible
residential
zone,
one
of
the
things
that
the
city
needs
to
also
realize
is
our
wildlife.
We've
been
fortunate
over
the
last
four
years
to
have
nesting
brown
eagles
on
that
property.
H
I
think
before
a
decision
be
made,
we
should
call
peta
and
have
them
investigate
it
and
let
them
watch
for
these.
These
special
animals.
We
don't
want
to
see
them
gone.
I
I
just
recently
less
than
six
weeks
ago,
was
able
to
watch
the
two
and
so
so
that
you
do
understand.
Brown
eagles
are
mates
for
life
and
they
fortunately
come
back
to
that
area,
and
so
it's
really
kind
of
neat
to
watch
them
yearly
fly
in
there's
an
increased
noise
level.
It's
there,
it's
an
impact.
H
H
And
they
are
managed
as
an
institutional,
but
because
of
their
nefarious
activities
that
they've
not
been
up
front
from
the
2019
where
they
said
he
only
needed
parking,
we're
very
concerned
on
really
what
they
want.
They
did
this
before
they
come
to
the
meeting
with
the
site
plan
at
this
point,
why
wasn't
that
presented
prior?
Why
don't?
They
have
a
set
set
of
plans?
We
both
if
we
center
for
four
hours
and
watch
other
folks,
have
detailed
plans.
H
H
They
are
very
conservative,
and
you
know
when
the
summer's
here
there's
hardly
any
traffic
coming
other
than
what
these
folks
present
and
they
put
these
special
hours
out
that
that's
all
they
do.
That's
not
true.
All
you
have
to
do
is
sit
out
there
for
any
given
day
and
park
and
you'll
see
different
activities.
You'll
see
activities
at
night,
the
poor
folks
at
castlewood.
So
we
have
some
residents.
H
H
None
of
them
are
in
in
support
of
this,
so
where
they've
gone
to
get
their
approval
is
to
the
institutional
folks.
Well,
we
all
know
itself
and
avenue
they've
been
there
forever.
It's
a
different,
different
format.
The
school
was
institutional,
different
format,
the
church
as
they
are.
Yes,
it's
a
pretty
church
but
their
growth
and
what
their
real
end
plans
and
what
they
really
want
to
do.
H
H
President's
standpoint,
we're
hoping
that
the
board
will
deny
and
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
at
on
this
first
one.
H
You
know,
I
know
you
guys
are
limited
on
time,
I'm
not
going
to
argue
the
difference
of
residential
low
where
they
could
put
five
buildings
onto
it.
I'm
not
going
to
argue
with
you
on
what
institutional
they
could
do,
because
it
opens
up
a
very
can
of
worms
that
we
may
not
be
able
to
turn
back
on.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
AG
My
name
is
david
lashon,
l-I-s-h-a-n,
1851
castle,
woods
drive
and
I
don't
think
I
could
say
it
any
more
eloquently
in
previous
gentlemen.
He
covered
really
all
the
points
that
I
was
going
to
mention
as
well.
The
traffic
is
from
4
30
in
the
morning
until
late
at
night.
It's
not
just
at
4
30
in
the
morning
and
late
at
night
is
throughout
the
entire
day.
AG
I
also
feel
that
the
church
has
been
dishonest
in
their
presentations
of
community
support.
The
activities
of
the
church
are
very
different
than
as
they
sort
of
make
them
seem,
the
previous
utility
building
or
service
building.
It
was
proposed
as
a
school.
It's
a
gym,
and
that
is
just
activities
that
really
are
starting
at
three
o'clock
in
the
afternoon.
AG
The
evening
basketball
courts
with
changling
fences
that
went
up
without
any
discussion
in
the
neighborhood
that
looked
like
a
prison
yard.
To
be
perfectly
honest,
there
was
a
house
on
the
property
that
is
used
as
a
a
meeting
facility.
I
don't
think
that
that's
what
it
was
originally
the
planning
was
for
of
that
building
the
traffic.
AG
AG
I
we
moved
into
our
our
home
about
22
years
ago
and
we've
seen
sort
of
nothing
but
an
increase
in
traffic
from
the
church
that
was
just
one
building
and
the
paul
b
stephens
school
was
built
that
increased
the
traffic
load.
Then
there
was
the
service
building
that
was
built
with
another
waiver
from
the
from
the
county,
and
each
one
of
these
has
sort
of
increased
the
traffic
to
a
point
where
it's
breaking
there
are
no
sidewalks,
I
was,
I
was
nearly
killed
by
one
of
their
younger
church
members.
AG
I
was
truly
at
the
dodge
while
they
ran
off
the
road.
While
I
was
off
to
the
side
of
the
road,
their
other
neighbors
will
all
tell
you
that
they
all
had
experiences
with
the
church
in
dangerous
situations
of
nearly
being
hit
by
one
of
their
drivers,
and
so
when
they
talk
about
increasing
by
60
70
increase
in
traffic
load.
AF
Hi
there,
my
name
is
michelle
robinson
r-o-b-I-n-s-o-n,
1850
castle,
woods
drive
my
husband
gene
and
I
live
on
property
that
above
the
church
property
very
close
to
the
soccer
field,
very
close
to
the
basketball
court.
We
agree
with
your
staff's
assessment
that
the
rezoning
is
incompatible
with
our
land
use.
Currently,
the
church
really
never
should
have
been
permitted
to
be
there.
They
got
a
variance
from
the
county,
and
then
they
are
now
institutionally
zoned
to
be
compliant
with
your
land
use
maps,
which
makes
sense.
AF
However,
we
spoke
both
times
that
we
don't
believe
that
this
is
a
good
use
in
our
community.
You've
heard
everything
about
the
traffic,
it
is
a
problem.
I
appreciate
that
your
staff
recognizes
that
this
is
a
church
campus
that
operates
all
hours
of
the
day.
I
am
in
frequent
contact
with
the
church
because
we
hear
everything
everything
that
happens
out
there.
AF
We
have
frequent
noise
complaints
regularly.
We
hear
loud
and
raucous
noise,
which
is
against
the
city's
ordinance,
and
that
happens
every
friday
night
every
saturday,
every
sunday
we
cannot
use
our
backyard
I'd
like
to
play
you
a
short
recording.
This
was
recorded
more
than
100
feet
from
the
noise.
This
is
right
outside
of
my
door,.
AF
This
one
may
have
been
mine,
but
it
happens
at
10..
This
is
the
noise
the
gentleman
is
referring
to
that
we
have
to
tolerate
on
a
regular
basis.
This
shouldn't
occur
at
all.
This
shouldn't
occur
any
time,
but
we
try
to
be
patient.
We
try
to
be
tolerant
of
this
because
we
know
okay,
kids
need
to
play,
but
that
happened
even
after
the
prison
yard,
fencing
went
up
on
the
basketball
court
and
the
church
agreed
to
not
have
kids
out
there
anymore.
AF
That's
what
we
deal
with
every
weekend,
every
friday
night,
every
saturday,
most
sundays,
often
on
sundays.
So
we
regularly
hear
all
of
this
raucous
noise,
which
is
against
the
city's
noise
ordinance.
We
are
concerned
that,
if
they
add
anything
they're
adding
to
the
noise
to
the
traffic,
the
plan
they
just
showed.
My
concern
is
also
light
that
parking
lot
will
have
to
be
lit.
AF
We're
going
to
have
to
deal
with
lights
coming
into
our
bedroom
windows,
we're
going
to
deal
with
more
and
more
traffic,
going
back
and
forth
across
the
site,
those
lights
shine
into
our
bedroom
windows,
the
vehicle
lights.
The
headlights
do
shine
into
our
windows,
so
we're
going
to
have
all
of
that.
AF
The
new
uses
we've
already
talked
about
so
ultimately
we're
very
concerned
that
it's
incompatible
with
our
property,
that
it
affects
our
way
of
life.
It'll
affect
our
property
values,
and
I
know
we've
been
here
very
long
today,
so
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point
that
everyone
else
did.
We
agree
with
your
staff's
assessment.
AF
We
are
a
little
bit
put
out
that
we
did
not
see
this
plan
until
yesterday
when
a
meeting
was
called.
We
know,
other
members
of
our
community
were
told.
Oh,
we
just
want
to
put
in
a
sunday
school.
They
had
no
idea
that
there
was
paved
lot
over
seven
acres
associated
lighting.
We
don't
know
what
the
drainage
is.
I
mean
there's
a
whole
lot
more
than
you
know.
We
want
to
build
a
sunday
school.
We
recognize
that.
So
we
appreciate
your
consideration.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
AE
Yeah,
oh,
I
have
a
couple:
thou
brothers
and
again
for
the
record,
so
just
three
just
to
recap
from
some
of
the
things
I've
heard
through
the
public
comments
so
like
we
said
that
main
church
was
annexed
in
2014
and
again,
the
future
languages
in
the
zoning
were
amended
due
to
the
city's
code
only
allowing
places
of
worship
within
the
institutional
zoning
district.
So
that's
why
that
was
done.
The
2018
polls
were
not
mentioned
by
the
applicant
and
his
representative.
Those
were
withdrawn
due
to
activity.
AE
AE
I
certainly
haven't
seen
or
has
staff
the
existing
church,
while
beautiful
it
is
not
listed
as
any
landmark
landscaper
building
as
being
unique
to
clearwater,
and
this
was
dated
the
2018
or
the
2019
cdb
meeting,
but
that
cycling
that
they
showed
it
could
change
tomorrow,
which
is
where
we
have
concerns
what
the
use
is
being
permitted
under
that
institutional
zoning
district,
and
that
is
all.
I
have
good
question.
K
K
So
you
can
be
approaching
about
150
000
square
feet
of
future
development
of
some
sort
of
another
yeah
without
doing
the
math
yeah
at
a
level
one
staff
review
basically
without
having
to
come
in
anything.
The
density
coverage
would
be
up
to
a
level
one
which
would
not
come
in
front
of
our
board
again
or
anything
correct.
AE
AE
AE
Based
on
the
site
plan,
even
if
they
did
submit,
we
would
not
support
this
amendment.
Just
to
the
fact
you
know
the
number
of
uses
increased
dramatically
from
residential
to
to
institutional
and
again
the
road
cr193.
You
know
it's
narrow,
two
lanes
undivided,
that
that
potential
development
would
impact
that
really
more
than
it
already
is
now.
So
we
we
stated
at
that
time
that
we
wouldn't
support
the
cycle
and
exist.
A
I
think
we've
moved
on
beyond
public
comment.
Closing
your
marks
by
the
applicant.
C
Ma'am,
chairman
board
members
always
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
any
citizens
who
have
concerns
that
come
on
down,
but
you've
certainly
heard
two
different
stories.
We
concentrated
on
the
abundant
owners,
which
I
showed
you
virtually
all
the
budding
owners
you
have
on
the
record,
their
signature
address
of
support.
C
Which
has
a
separate
access
road
to
sunset
point:
the
property
between
between
the
church
now
is
an
alf
and
the
subject
property
which
is
vacant.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
that
community
is
feeling
impacts
of
the
church
that
he
discussed
at
the
point.
At
the
moment
there
would
there's
substantial
room
between
that
community
and
the
church.
10
people
attended
the
community
meeting
last
night.
C
C
The
idea
here
is
that
the
church
could
build
today,
as
the
gentleman
said
about
by
my
math
about
300
percent,
more
square
footage
on
the
existing
property
today
by
right
under
institutional.
All
they're
seeking
to
do
today
is
to
involve
the
northern
parcel
as
far
west
as
they
could
under
this
approval.
So
the
question
is:
where
is
development
going
to
go?
They
want
to
go
in
the
right
place,
which
is
on
the
north
property
in
regard
to
transportation
per
the
ite
rating
or
ite
engineers
book
on
trips.
C
The
am
peak
hour
would
be
only
six
vehicles
in
and
peek
out
would
be
three,
but
again,
those
trips
by
the
church
are
generated
by
much
different
uses
than
would
be
seen
on
that
county
road
now
being
the
school
and
residential,
the
pm
peak
in
would
be
six
trips
pm
peak
out
would
be
eight.
So,
in
regard
to
support
for
the
request,
we've
shown
you,
the
budding
owners
are
primarily
in
support.
C
They
could
move
forward
with
substantial,
more
square
footage
on
the
existing
property,
as
the
gentleman
indicated,
and
we
brought
forward
good
community
support
and
I'll
emphasize
once
again
that,
as
the
same
future,
land
use
issues
as
categories
and
zoning
came
before
this
board
in
the
city
and
the
same
uses
it
was
beautifully
approved
by
the
city
and
the
staff.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
board
members.
X
Issued
support,
I
guess
I
guess
my
question:
you
have
private
school
down
there.
I
guess
in
what?
What
way
have
they
issued
support.
C
E
C
E
AA
X
The
arc,
I
think
what
I'm
trying
to
understand
is
it
was
portrayed
there's
some
concern
from
constituents
that
it's
not
always
clear
and-
and
I
want
to
be
fair
to
both
sides,
but
it's
portrayed
that
that
school
often
support
which
my
understanding
is
a
pinellas
county
school,
not
a
private
school,
as
I
was
on
your
report
that
they
offered
support
of
this
proposed
amendment,
and
I'm
I'm
not
I'm
not
saying
that's
not
accurate,
but
I
have
concerns
that.
That's
not
accurate.
D
AA
E
C
A
A
I
I
do
I
feel
like
this
was
is
not
an
easy
thing.
There
are
some
very
appealing
things
about
extending
the
church
property
into
the
more
northerly
parcel.
But
to
me
the
war
stopper
is
changing
the
zoning
classification
and
the
land
use
plan
for
the
future
going
forward
and
the
ability
of
the
church
to
sell
that
parcel
to
a
third
party
without
any
constraints
and
have
something
completely
unexpected,
built
there
and
we're
not
here
to
approve
a
development
application
of
any
kind.
A
We're
here
legislatively
to
make
a
recommendation
to
city
council,
whether
the
long-term
land
use
and
zoning
applicable
to
this
parcel
should
be
changed,
and
I'm
persuaded
that
the
city
has
made
its
case
that
we
should
recommend
denial
of
this
proposed
change
to
a
future
land
use
plan,
because
I'm
I'm
concerned
about
that
possibility
of
open-ended
changes
to
the
future
land
use
plan.
I
also
have
some
just
some
gut
level
concerns.
A
An
awful
lot
of
the
information
we've
been
presented
is
hearsay
in
nature
and
appears
to
have
been
generated
in
the
past
24
to
48
hours,
and
I
I
don't
know,
because
we
have
this
history
of
a
psych
plan
proposal
that
is
we're
not
acting
on
today.
There's
nothing
really
in
front
of
us
about
specific
development.
I
it
just
concerns
me
that
I
hate
to
see
that
happen
again
all
right.
Anybody
else,
yeah.
K
I
can
pretty
much
feel
the
same
way
as
what
you
do
I
mean
I
have.
I
mean
one
side
of
it,
I'm
all
for
schools,
I'm
all
for
the
churches,
I'm
all
about
doing
family
events
and
having
things
for
our
children
to
keep
them
occupied
in
the
right
place.
I
think
that's
very,
very
important.
You
know,
and-
and
we've
had
many
different
cases
come
in
front
of
our
board
over
the
years
here,
where
people
move
into
an
area
and
the
school's
already
there
and
they
complain
about
it.
K
Well,
you
know
it
was
there
and
things
that
happened,
but
there's
definitely
a
doubt.
The
track
history
of
this
particular
property
coming
in
front
of
the
board.
There's
definitely
a
doubt
in
my
opinion
of
development
intent
going
further,
and
it
hasn't
been
satisfied
to
me
here
today
and
that's
why
I
asked
the
question
to
staff,
but
that
institute
institutional
zoning
provides
a
wide
gamut
of
uses
in
our
code
and
a
high
density
that,
just
as
mary
said,
I
mean
seven
acres.
My
math
was
wrong.
K
It
actually
is
a
few
hundred
thousand
square
feet
that
this
can
go
to
on
seven
acres
at
65
and
not
that
they're
looking
to
do
that,
but
the
next
one
in
one
year,
two
year,
three
or
four
year,
five
years
when
they
sell
it,
that
it
would
never
come
back
in
front
of
our
board
as
a
level
one.
They
would
have
that
car
blast
dude.
If
they
didn't
want
to
come
back
with
setback,
encroachments
or
landscaping.
K
You
know
they
could
do
that
on
a
staff
review
and
they'll
be
full
acknowledged
to
do
that.
According
my
understanding
and
what
I've
been
told
and
experienced,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
brought
up
once
before
to
some
members
of
staff
and
that's
kind
of
or
I
would
be
more
receptive
in
something
like
this.
If
we
had
some
concept
of
a
planned
development,
zoning-
and
I
know,
there's
pros
and
cons
with
that,
where
it's
tied
exactly
to
a
site
plan
where
you
get
your
zoning
approval,
and
it's
only
good
for
that.
K
If
you
go
to
change
it
going
forward
and
just
different,
you
know
we're
dealing
with
what
we
have
here
and
but
different
municipalities
counties
have
that
type
of
zoning
in
place,
and
you
know
maybe
that'll
happen
in
the
future
or
not.
But
we
have
to
go
with
what
we
have
here
today
and
and
with
what
we
have
here
today,
I'm
siding
with
mary
here
that
I
don't
think
I
can
lend
support
into
what
was
presented.
G
A
F
X
AH
Understanding
that
the
the
land
use
plan
you're
talking
about
the
future
land
use
designation
for
purposes
of
the
comprehensive
plan
has
been
denied.
AH
Understood
as
I
as
I
advise
the
body,
I
believe
that
the
application
should
proceed,
understanding
that
it
that
that
inconsistency
presents
a
a
issue
that
may
need
to
be
addressed.
A
All
right,
mr
brotherton
and
council,
I
assume
you
would
like
to
make
a
request
for
recognizing
this
gentleman
as
a
an
expert.
F
Yes,
I
thought
it's
been
a
long
day.
Let
me
grab
my
paper,
madam
chair.
At
this
time
I
asked
that
the
board,
except
mr
kyle
brotherton
as
an
expert
in
general
planning
zoning
annexations
land
use,
rezoning
amendments,
comprehensive
planning,
demographics,
land
use,
development
code
and
land
development
code
amendments.
A
F
AE
D
AE
Just
for
the
sake
of
time,
and
because
this
is
the
same
property,
I
would
like
to
incorporate
the
presentation
that
was
made
previously
during
case
zero,
four
zero,
four
by
referencing
to
the
record
as
again,
this
is
the
same
property.
The
same
general
conditions
apply,
however,
this
case
proposes
to
amend
the
zoning
atlas.
AE
Designation
of
the
subject:
property
1885
cr193
from
the
low
medium
density,
residential
district
to
the
institutional
district
and
staff
is
recommending
denial
of
that
proposed
amendment,
as
the
proposal
is
inconsistent
with
community
development
code
sections,
4-6-0-2-f-1,
f2,
f3,
f4
and
f5,
as
detailed
in
this
episode.
Thank
you.
C
Manager
and
asked
that
the
powerpoint
other
information
I've
submitted
the
record,
which
involves
and
includes
the
zoning,
be
accepted
for
this
application.
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank.
H
Kevin
hunsicker,
2939
sunrise
drive
to
clarify
my
location
and
if
you
look
at
the
map
again,
I
can
pinpoint
my
house
exactly.
I
am
on
the
alley
if
you
would
from
where
they've
created
their
soccer
field.
My
house,
above
that,
yes,
we
have
art
between
us,
but
ark
has
cleared
their
land
they've
removed.
They
put
a
solar
field
in
so
it
resonates
into
our
neighborhood
at
night
winter
hours
we're
blinded
by
the
lights
they
got
on
the
back
of
the
church.
They
shoot
it.
H
They
put
structures
up,
okay
and
I'll,
pinpoint
a
few
items
for
you,
you'll
see
trash
laying
here
they
leave
their
chairs,
setting
up
which
are
not
conducive
to
being
a
good
neighbor,
and
yet
they
want
to
say
that
they
don't
turn
their
trees.
We're
going
to
have
a
problem
during
this
hurricane
season.
Here's
the
wire
lines
that
are
running
on
their
property.
They
don't
take
care
of
that
property.
H
They
add
structures
that
are
not
consistent,
so
we
have
a
real
concern.
The
dishonesty
that
these
folks
really
present
is
just
amazing
to
me.
After
a
40-year
professional
career,
I
find
it
just
astounding
that
a
church
of
this
nature
cannot
be
trustworthy
and
be
upfront
with
the
neighborhood.
They
approached
only
the
institutional
folks.
H
A
AG
AG
AG
1851
castle,
with
charlie
I'd
like
to
just
for
the
record,
again
agree
with
the
previous
gentleman
about
the
quality
of
them
being
a
neighbor.
I'd
also
like
to
enter
into
the
record
a
letter
from
a
next-door
neighbor
that
was
not
able
to
attend
today,
but
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that
their
voices
were
here.
AG
D
A
C
I'll
keep
it
very
short.
The
petitions
will
be
handed
in
do
include
a
couple
castlewood
residents
and
that's
the
position.
Signature
and
address
indicated
every
trip
I've
made
to
the
church.
The
property
has
been
magnificently
taken
care
of.
I
mean
it's
beautiful,
so
I
understand
once
in
a
while,
there
may
be
a
trash
can
here
or
an
item
there.
C
The
church
property
is
absolutely
beautiful
and
we
did
not
specify
institutional
owners
in
the
immediate
area
we
looked
at
the
abundant
owners,
which
I
presented
on
the
record.
We
have
a
number
of
residential
supporters
as
well
as
an
alf
and
the
vacant
lot,
that's
in
between
the
existing
church
and
sunrise
driver.
Mr
huntsvirus.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
We
have
we
have
moved
on
beyond
public
comment.
Thank
you
all
right.
We
will
have
close
the
public
hearing
and
have
discussion
about
by
the
board.