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A
It's
eight
o'clock
and
I
guess
we
have
a
forum,
so
I
did
hear
from
randa.
She
didn't
end
up
needing
a
ride,
but
she
is
here
shortly.
C
A
Voris
right
kevin
lachlan,
mike
grillman
wayne
carlisle.
C
C
Well,
he's
on
the
agenda
to
be
introduced,
so
oh,
but
hi
eric,
I
don't
know
I
did
read
since
we
had
a
formal
minute
item
I
figured
we
should
get
to
that
eventually.
In
any
event,
first
thing,
I
guess,
is
to
take
a
look
at
the
minutes
from
the
last
meeting,
which
patricia
seemed
to
do
a
great
job
of
capturing
all
that
discussion
three
months
ago,
nice
work
very.
A
C
Yes,
yeah,
that
was
terrific.
Any
comments
on
the
on
the
minutes.
C
C
D
So
I
won't
need
notes
for
this
one
good
morning.
Everybody
thanks
for
being
here
this
morning.
My
name
is
eric
gandy.
I
just
wanted
to
take
an
opportunity
to
thank
you
for
your
service
on
the
board.
It's
important
for
guys
like
me
to
get
input
and-
and
I
think
it's
critical
to
have
those
levels
of
communication
throughout
the
community
and
the
boards
are
a
part
of
that.
So
a
little
bit
about
myself
third
generation
floridian,
my
family's
been
here
and
st
pete
for
since
I
think
about
1910
1915,
something
like
that.
D
During
my
time
at
the
the
pd,
I
served
a
bunch
of
different
roles.
D
I
was
at
one
time
the
beach
district
commander.
For
several
years,
I
established
a
marine
unit
for
the
police
department
to
include
acquiring
the
vessel
establishing
policy
training
selection
of
crew.
Things
of
that
nature,
and
I
think
the
reason
the
the
former
chief
selected
me
for
that
position
was
some
of
my
experience
in
the
brain
industry.
If
you
will
so
as
a
young
cop,
I
got
a
oupv
and
used
to
run
charters
now
and
again
on
my
downtime.
D
So
I
had
some
local
experience
with
the
area.
A
lot
of
marine
experience
I
used
to
work
for
a
yacht
maintenance
company
through
college,
did
some
things
like
that.
As
far
as
the
aviation
background
also
kind
of
interesting,
my
dad
was
an
aerophotography
pilot
over
in
tampa
and
I
used
to
fly
a
lot
of
his
stuff
when
I
was
a
in
high
school,
late,
high
school
and
early
college.
D
So
I
was
a
very
high
time,
vfr
only
pilot,
simply
because
that's
all
we
did
clear
weather
photography,
but
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
doing
that,
and
you
know
those
two
things
led
me
to
kind
of
pursue
an
interest
in
this
environment,
and
I
always
knew
that
I
would
be
doing
something
in
the
marine
or
aviation
field
upon
retirement
and
it
just
was
a
timing
situation,
and
here
I
am
so
you
know
my
background
of
the
pd's-
is
besides
starting
the
marine
unit
and
being
involved
in
clearwater
beach
and
spending
quite
a
bit
of
time
negotiating
competing
interests
out
there.
D
I
was
the
swat
team
commander
for
about
five
years
spent
10
total
years
on
swat.
I
was
a
patrol
division
commander.
The
emergency
response
team
commander
ran
the
canine
teams
and
actually
worked
a
couple
of
dogs,
and
I
ended
up
gravitating
or
finding
myself
in
charge
of
a
lot
of
high
liability
assignments.
D
So
for
me
I
think
that
had
me
well
prepared
to
step
into
this
role
because
it
is
challenging.
I
think
you
know,
when
I
stepped
in.
I
found
that
that
ed
had
done
a
lot
of
really
good
things
in
terms
of
trying
to
address
some
legacy
issues
that
the
department
has
had
with
always
doing
things
a
certain
way.
D
I
think
he
and
mike
did
a
really
good
job
of
addressing
some
significant
challenges,
because
the
city
was
different
20
years
ago
and
the
department
was
different
and
the
you
know
they
had
the
marine
on
the
beach
and
beyond
that
the
air
park
and
it
was
administered
through
a
lease
and
some
other
ancillary
facilities.
But
now
we
have
the
harbor
marina,
which
is
in
and
of
itself
a
significant
challenge.
D
So
you
know
someone
asked
me
the
other
day
is
that
is
it
you
know
as
stressful
as
being
the
deputy
chief
or
a
swat
commander.
I
said
it's
a
different
different
type
of
stress:
there's.
We
are
essentially
landlords
with
about
400
or
so
tenants,
and
we
deal
with
all
things
that
revolve
around
tenants
and
competing
interests
and
the
physical
plant
and
all
those
things.
So
it's
it's
a
different
level,
but
there's
no,
no
decision
that
you
know
I've
been
involved
in
thus
far
that
it's
some
sort
of
a
life-altering
consequence.
D
So
you
know
from
that
level
it's
a
different
type
of
stress,
but
we've
got
a
lot
of
irons
in
the
fire.
You'll
probably
see
me
more
before
council
in
the
near
future,
just
because
of
some
of
the
projects.
As
you
know,
we
have
the
redevelopment
project
of
the
docks
at
the
beach
marina.
We
just.
D
I
was
just
before
council
for
an
emergency
repair
of
the
wave
attenuators
which
you
guys
were
aware
of,
and
the
and
you'll
see
it
as
well,
because
it's
one
of
our
ancillary
responsibilities,
the
air
park
lease
is
due
and
we're
working
through
an
rfp
process
there,
so
quite
busy
right
now
and
I'm
actually
pursuing
additional
personnel
for
the
department
as
well.
D
Just
based
on
my
initial
two
and
a
half
month
assessment
of
operational
needs.
So
it's
a
steep
learning
curve.
I've
used
this
analogy
several
times.
I've
been
base
camp
looking
at
the
top
of
everest
right
now
and
just
trying
to
get
as
much
information
as
I
can.
So.
I'm
having
a
lot
of
conversations
with
folks-
and
you
know
I'm
hopeful
that
through
these
interactions
I
get
even
more
input.
So
thank
you.
D
So
this
guy
behind
me
is
an
extremely
heavy
lifter,
probably
literally
and
figuratively,
you
know
mike
has
the
depth
of
knowledge,
that's
irreplaceable
for
these
operations,
but
I
quickly
realized.
You
know,
he's
wearing
way
too
many
hats,
so
it's
very
difficult
because
of
those
competing
interests.
So
there's
not
a
day
that
goes
by
that
we
don't
get
15.
20
phone
calls
issues
challenges
while
we're
trying
to
manage
big
projects.
D
Taking
over
a
team
or
a
project,
I
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
initially
just
trying
to
get
my
arms
around
it
and
figuring
out
the
flow.
How
things
work
are
we
I'm
very
conscientious
about
liability
and
exposure?
Obviously,
based
on
my
previous
roles-
and
I
think
that
you
know
I
looked
at
some
of
our
rules
and
some
of
the
requests
for
doc
permits.
If
you
will
and
we
reviewed
everything
we
had
on
file,
so
our
staff
went
through
and
tried
to
ascertain
who
was
in
compliance
with
the
rules.
D
Annual
insurance
updates
registrations,
insurance,
critical,
particularly
before
hurricane
season,
and
we
were
probably
60
percent-
non-compliant
in
terms
of
people
submitting
what
they're
obligated
to
submit
regularly
so
and
it
I
think
our
commercial
tenants
are
more
compliant.
Sometimes
we
have
you
know
rec
tenants
that
are
out
of
state
or
whatever.
So
so
we
understand
that
so.
D
We've
set
several
notices
out
and
I've
tried
to
address
some
things
that
were
problematic
for
us,
the
rules
being
one
of
them
and
you
know
even
upon
sending
out
communications
either
the
email
and
notifications
we're
still
getting
a
level
of
non-compliance.
It's
really
not
satisfactory,
so
I'm
going
to
end
up
sending
out
a
follow-up
letter.
In
some
circumstances.
D
I
don't
like
to
take
up
a
you
know,
blanket
approach
and
just
throw
it
out
to
everybody
again.
Once
we
send
the
notices
out,
then
we'll
follow
up
with
individual
notices,
a
lot
more
work
for
my
staff,
but
I
think
that's
the
right
way
to
do
it,
because
then
the
folks
that
did
comply
aren't
like
wait
a
minute.
Why
are
you
sending
me
this
again?
D
So
insurance
is
just
one
example:
I'm
gonna
I'm
in
the
process
of
changing
some
of
our
rules
and
and
agreements
so
that
the
city
from
this
point
forward
will
be
an
interested
party
in
the
insurance
policy.
Therefore,
the
insurance
company
communicates
with
us
directly
when
the
policy
lapses
or
it's
renewed.
So
then
we
don't
have
to
go
chasing
folks
around
to
try
and
obtain
this
information.
It
just
makes
sense.
D
I
mean
I've
been
have
my
best
one,
several
marinas
over
the
years
and
and
ultimately
I've
always
had
to
list
the
entity
as
an
interested
party
just
kind
of
usual
and
customary,
but,
like
I
said,
I'm
looking
back
at
things
that
have
been
done,
the
same
way
for
generations.
Essentially,
so
that's
just
one
example:
another
one
that
that
I
quickly
realized
was
significantly
problematic
at
the
main.
Marina
is
u.s
mail
delivery.
D
We
were
inundated
with
thousands
and
thousands
of
pieces
of
mail,
some
legitimate
mail
and
some
junk
mail,
as
we
all
know
you
for
every
piece
of
mail
you're
looking
for
you
get
10
pieces
of
junk
mail.
So
what
was
happening
is
many
tenants
were,
and
the
commercial
tenants
had
historically
been
allowed
to
do.
This
use
the
office
as
a
mailing
address
for
their
business,
because
some
had
no
other
mechanism
again.
D
This
is
legacy
stuff
that
I'm
dealing
with,
and
so
our
staff
was
sorting
through
thousands
of
pieces
of
mail
to
try
and
find
our
own
mail
and
then
figure
out
who
it
belonged
to.
So
I
sent
several
noses
out
indicating
that
I
talked
to
the
post
office.
Looked
at
some
different
strategies
to
address
that
tried
to
even
ask
if
we
could
put
like
a
cluster
mailbox
out
there
with
slips
on
it,
but
they
don't.
They
don't
recognize
the
slip
as
an
address,
so
that
was
a
non-starter.
D
So
you
know
that
was
part
of
the
rule
change
we
made.
We
can't
accept
mail-in
packages
anymore,
it's
just
too
cumbersome
and
too
much
of
a
liability
because
sure
enough
someone's
going
to
call
in
and
say
well,
you
know
someone
sent
me
500
in
cash.
Where
is
it
you
know?
So
I
could
foresee
that
and
we
were
getting
gps
head
units
and
expensive
pieces
of
equipment
staff.
Even
told
me,
someone
got
multiple
toilets
delivered,
so
we
just
can't
manage
that.
D
It's
just
inconsistent
with
what
our
day
jobs
are.
So
that's
another
rule,
change
that
that
was
made
relatively
quickly
and
notice
when
we
were
sent
out.
So
I've
had
those
conversations
with
folks
too.
I
know
you
know
it's
a
change
and
then
some
people
have
to
either
establish
a
p.o
box
or
have
them
else
sent
to
their
own
presidents.
We've
made
one
exception
and
that's
for
the
the
transient.
The
transient
vessels
that
are
on
a
journey
somewhere,
if
they
make
prior
arrangements
with
us,
is
the
only
circumstance
we
can
really
do
that.
D
D
So
the
other
thing
we
have
a
couple
other
rule
related
issues
that
I'm
I'm
trying
to
address.
I'm
going
to
go,
sit
down
the
legal
and
go
through
all
of
them
to
make
sure
that
that
you
know
we
have
the
best
set
of
rules
possible
for
all
of
our
tenants
that
make
sense
that
aren't
overly
burdensome
for
for
any
group
of
folks
and
also
you
know,
insulate
us
from
potential
challenges.
D
I
also
we
had
an
unfortunate
incident
recently
where
a
vessel
had
a
couple
collisions
in
the
marina.
The
coast
guard
got
involved
a
commercial
vessel,
and
I
can't
really
go
into
the
details
of
the
case.
It's
their
investigation,
other
than
to
say
that
when
we
started
reviewing
files
we
determined
that
licenses
and
documentation
weren't
supplied
regularly.
D
So
that's
another
change,
I'm
going
to
make
to
the
commercial
tenant
agreements
that
I've
got
to
have
the
proper
licenses
and
endorsements
and
inspections.
The
the
commercial
investors
are
a
little
bit
different,
as
you
might
know,
levels
of
inspection
and
documentation,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
operators
of
those
vessels
are
actually
qualified
to
operate
them
and
that
we
have
a
record
of
that.
D
So
that's
just
kind
of
a
quick
overview
of
just
some
of
the
salient
points
that
I'm
trying
to
address.
It'll
take
a
little
bit
of
time
and
sit
down
with
legal.
To
make
sure
you
know,
we've
we've
got
things
covered
in
the
manner
we
we
want
to.
I
just
want
to
see
if
I've
got
anything
else
in
there
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
there's
some
some
other
legacy
stuff.
We
already
had
to
deal
with
this.
D
We
got
a
complaint
from
one
of
the
commercial
tenants
who
went
to
the
mayor's
office
and
then
to
the
fire
marshal
about
fueling
of
personal
watercraft.
So
some
of
the
operators
have
personal
watercraft
operations
out
there
at
the
domain,
marina
or
beach,
marina,
and
so
it
was
a
bit
of
a
conflict.
They
were
storing
some
fuels
and
and
trucks,
pickup
trucks
on
the
property
and
was
inconsistent
with
what
the
fire
marshal
had
agreed
to
back
in
2013.
D
The
reason
they're
allowed
to
fuel
remotely
or
with
with
approved
containers
at
their
vessels
is
because
of
frequency
with
which
they
fueled
and
the
fact
that,
when
they
try
and
fuel
it
are
fuel
docks,
they're
spilling
gas
all
over
the
place
because
of
the
wave
action
and
the
instability
of
jet
skis.
So
mike
has
already
recognized
and
addressed
that
as
part
of
the
marina
rebuild
to
have
designated
area
and
cradles
for
the
jet
skis
to
fuel
at
our
fuel
docks
going
forward.
D
So
we
met
with
everybody,
because
the
jet
ski
operators
then
complained
back
to
the
mayor's
office.
The
challenges
that
this
constraints
this
involved.
So
we
remember
the
fire,
marshal
met
with
the
operators
and
resolved
that.
So
that's
going
to
have
to
be
addressed
in
the
rules,
because
it's
it's
legacy
stuff
back
to
the
2013
rule.
D
Oh
there's
one
more
thing
that
struck
me
is
this
funny:
I
think
it
was
lost
and
found
or
lost
property,
so
lost
and
found
property
and
again
archaic
language.
You
know
we're
going
to
maintain
it
and
then
whoever
turned
it
in
got
to
file
a
claim
and
keep
it
well
that
is
codified
in
florida
law,
but
we
aren't
the
repository
for
lost
and
found
property
we'll
be
turning
that
over
or
having
individual
finds.
It
turn
it
over
the
proper
authority,
which
is
the
police
department.
D
So
again,
our
staff
shouldn't
be
handling,
maintaining,
storing
something
until
someone
files
a
finder's
claim,
but
this
again
goes
way
back.
You
know
someone
drops
a
driver's
license
in
the
foyer,
we'll
pick
it
up
and
hang
on
to
it
for
the
day,
but
then,
ultimately,
we're
gonna
have
to
turn
it
over
to
the
pd.
D
So,
just
just
a
few
things
that
that
you
know
to
me
were
kind
of
liability
problems
for
us
and
legacy
issues
that
some
of
the
stuff
just
needs,
freshening
up
and
a
new
set
of
eyes
on
it,
and
I
think
we've
got
a
good
legal
advisor
and
we've
been
working
with
him
and
sharing
ideas,
so
we'll
ultimately
sit
down
in
between
project
planning
meetings
and
emergency
repairs
to
you
know
codify
these
things
and
publish
them.
One
of
my
intents
also
is
you
know
some
of
the
things
and
then
these
agreements
are
specified
rate
increases.
D
You
know
a
couple
days
notice.
My
intent
going
forward
is
to
provide
ample
notice
on
these
things.
30-Day
lead
time
for
any
kind
of
substantiative
changes.
Unless
it's
an
emergency
change
we
have
to
make.
I
think
that's
the
right
thing
to
do,
even
though
you
know
legally,
we
are
per
our
agreements.
We're
allowed
to
give
a
you
know,
72
hour
notice,
I
think
going
forward.
D
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
has
30
days
to
adjust
to,
and
so
in
line
with
that,
you
know
my
intent
would
be
to
have
this
meetings
at
a
time
where
we
can
discuss
those
potential
increases
hammer.
Those
out
get
a
a
recommendation
that
I
can
take
to
the
city
manager
in
a
timely
manner
that
then
the
tenants
have
30
days
to
adjust
or
adapt.
D
C
C
D
Okay,
no,
I
just
heard
you
mention
old
business
and
I
thought
perhaps
you
want
to
do
it
first.
I
can
let
me
do
the
beach
marina
project
first
and
then
then
I'll
talk
about
the
old
ones,
so
we've
had
regular
meetings
with
the
engineering
design
team
regarding
the
beach
marina
project.
I
came
into
this
and
I
think
I
was
in
a
week,
maybe
two
weeks
in
the
first
meeting
we
discussed
the
budget
and
where
we
are
in
the
potential
costs
related
to
this
project,
it
was
significantly
over
what
we
had
anticipated.
D
I
mean
certainly
we're
under
an
unusual
inflationary
environment.
Now-
and
this
was
you
know,
approaching
the
30
percent
design
phase,
so
we
met
with
them
and
and
discussed
some
of
those
things
and
I'll
just
go
over
a
couple
of
them
with
you.
I
would
put
this
there,
but
I
don't
know
that
you'll
be
able
to
see
it
effectively.
D
D
D
D
To
include
dredging
the
individual
kiosks
for
each
operation,
so
what
happens
now
is
the
the
commercial
tenants
have
for
lack
of
a
better
term
small
offices
kiosk
points
of
sale
that
they
operate
out
of?
So
if
the
vessel's
out,
they
can
leave
a
staff
member
there
and
they
can
still
book
book
trips
which,
which
makes
sense
so
in
an
effort
to
try
and
address
that
need
they
put
in
a
plan
for
upland
small
kiosks
for
their
commercial
operations.
D
So
that
was
an
additional
scope
factor
and
some
are
the
city's
vision
for
the
aesthetic
component
and
and
sort
of
a
promenade
approach
to
that
facility
to
interconnect
it
with
beach
walk.
So
that
was
kind
of
the-
and
I
wasn't
here
for
that.
But
I'm
you
know
kind
of
referring
historically
to
what
the
vision
was.
The
city's
vision
for
this
maintain
the
commercial
fleet,
but
integrate
this
with
beach
walk,
so
that
the
visiting
public
has
kind
of
an
uninterrupted
flow
around
the
marina
and
then
access
to
those
commercial
entities.
D
So
that's
some
of
those
things
have
increased
the
cost.
The
dredging
was
a
addition
to
the
scope,
and
so
those
are
some
of
the
reasons
plus
inflation
and
contingency
that
have
added
to
this
cost.
D
D
D
Do
I
lose
the
revenue
for
a
period
of
time
and
then
attempt
to
rebuild
something
like
that,
but
we
have
several
other
approaches
to
this-
that
we're
going
to
discuss
and
discuss
the
consultant
engineering
team's
presentation
to
council
at
30,
so
I'm
gonna
have
those
conversations
with
the
cm
on
the
14th.
I
believe
so.
I
have
more
clarity
there
and
look
at
the
plans.
D
None
of
them
are
great,
they're,
all
takeaways,
of
course,
when
you
try
and
get
within
the
budget,
you
know
you,
you
have
to
lose
something
there's
no
way
around
that.
So
we
have
to
just
look
at
what
makes
the
most
sense.
It
became
clear
to
me
in
researching
this
project
that
it's
complicated,
it's
very
complicated,
the
underground
utilities,
the
age
of
the
sea
wall,
the
docks
were
from
the
80s
and
they
give
you
about
a
20-year
useful
life
span
on
a
timber
frame
dock.
D
I
can't
charge
market
rate
at
that
facility
based
on
the
condition
it's
in,
and
I
would
invite
any
one
of
you
to
come:
pay
us
a
visit
and
take
a
walk
through
there.
Just
do
it
on
your
own
volition
and
see
what
we're
dealing
with.
So
it's
a
complicated
problem.
It's
a
complicated
engineering
feat.
We
met
with
duke
energy
the
other
day
to
have
some
conversations
about
the
service
out
there.
D
We
have
issues
there
and
I
think
that
the
design
team
is
working
really
hard
on
putting
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
into
to
accommodate
everybody's
needs.
I
will
tell
you
that
just
a
personal
observation,
because
they
have
to
resolve
the
sea
wall
issues.
The
seawall
is
a
phase
one
fix
because
it
needs
a
permanent
replacement
at
some
point
in
the
future.
There's
no
way
around
that,
so
a
lot
of
their
design
involves
planning
for
an
eventual
seaward
replacement
of
the
existing
seawall.
D
So
that's
what
makes
some
of
it
complicated
and
limits
their
ability
to
do
certain
things
like
a
fixed
timber
dock
structure
for
all
commercial
tenants,
because
then
you
would
just
have
to
tear
that
out
and
with
all
the
associated
costs
and
what
I'm
finding
you
know.
I've
had
lots
of
conversations
with
commercial
tenants
and
everyone
has
a
different
need.
When
I
went
into
this,
I
kind
of
approached
it.
Maybe
I
approach
it
as
if
they
were
sort
of
all
unified
in
their
approach
and
view
of
what
this
should
look
like
or
could
look
like.
D
I
found
that
individual
tenants
have
individual
needs
and
to
the
to
the
extreme,
sometimes
that
people
are
saying
well.
I've
got
a
business
plan
that
involves
this.
Can
you
accommodate
it,
and
my
response
is
simply
no.
I
can't
build
a
single
slip
around
a
potential
business
model
because
funding
may
fall
through.
You
may
have
a
change
of
plans.
There's
some
things
there
that
that
don't
allow
us
to
do
that
and
would
make
the
cost
really
exorbitant
to
address
the
the
commercial
slips.
So
it's
a
challenge.
D
It's
it's
definitely
has
kept
me
up
at
night,
thus
far
just
trying
to
recognize.
I
want
to
allow
the
commercial
folks
to
maintain
you
know
their
business
operations
and
recognizing
that
current
code,
current
requirements
once
we
address
this,
this
structure
won't
allow
for
some
of
the
amenities
that
currently
exist.
There's
no
way
around
it
and
I
use
the
seminal
docs
example
regularly,
because
the
city's
not
exempt
from
our
own
code,
our
county
code,
we
have
to
comply,
and
the
seminal
docs
bathroom
are
a
prime
example
of
that
level
of
compliance.
D
For
years
you
needed
two
decent
bathrooms
and
seminole
docks.
Everyone,
myself
included,
thought
well
just
build
a
couple
bathrooms
for
a
couple
hundred
grand
right.
It
makes
sense.
We've
got
a
1.2
1.3
million
dollar
bathroom
in
the
sky
because
it
had
to
be
built
above
the
flood
plain
it
had
to
be
ada
compliant
because
of
the
height.
The
the
ramps
were
inconsistent
with
ada
needs,
so
they
had
to
put
an
elevator
in
it.
D
If
you
will
to
address
certain
things,
I
have
to
take
away
certain
things
and,
and
the
the
permitting
and
what's
allowable
now
is
a
lot
different
than
it
was
in
the
80s,
as
you
guys
might
suspect.
Hurricane
code
flood
flood
plain
adjustments.
All
those
things
are
impactful
to
these
these
projects,
and
I
think
you
know,
look
no
further
than
seminole
docks
and
see
what
you
get.
D
So
you
know
that's,
that's
it
in
a
nutshell.
We
are
still
like.
I
said
we.
We
went
through
an
exercise
with
the
design
team
to
come
up
with
some
alternative,
phased
projects
that
try
and
get
us
within
that
20.
D
You
know:
20
million
800
000
number,
there's
some
still
some
unknowns
in
that
in
terms
of
of
dredging.
You
know,
we've
had
some
dredging
reports
and
it's
not
some
nice
stuff.
You
can
pump
up
on
a
beach
somewhere.
We
have
to
handle
that
sediment
and
carefully
and
we're
working
on
that,
so
those
costs
could
increase
based
on
what
we're
pulling
out
of
there.
Is
it
contaminated?
Isn't
it
all?
Those
types
of
things
could
have
additional
impacts.
D
I
will
tell
you
if
you
look
at
fiscal
year:
24
marina
revenue,
I'm
fearful
and
speaking
of
revenue,
I'm
a
little
fearful,
there's
no
there's
no
phase
approach
to
this.
That
doesn't
have
us
vacating
portions
of
that
marina.
The
goal
is
to
allow
the
commercial
tenants
to
retain
their
ability
to
operate
within
there
and
that
would
unfortunately
be
on
the
backs
of
some
of
the
recreational
tenants
that
would
have
to
be
displaced.
I
used
this
example
yesterday
and
I've
used
it
a
couple
times.
D
This
is
no
different
than
having
an
old
trailer
park
and
now
we're
gonna
put
condos
there
there's
going
to
be
displacement
and
you'll
learn
something
about
me
relatively
quickly.
I
I
try
and
shoot
everybody
straight.
I
do.
I
will
tell
you
what
I
know.
I
will
tell
you
what
I
believe
to
be
possible
and
what's
not
possible,
there's
no,
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
about
mooring
fields
and
allowing
people
to
there's
not
an
ordinance
to
allow
for
mooring
fields.
D
D
We've
talked
to
some
other
marine
operators
around
the
state
and
we
might
see
a
50
reduction
in
the
fleet
that
can
stay
there
or
more
during
this
period.
So
that's
a
management
problem.
We're
going
to
have
to
deal
with
and
again,
like
I
said
in
my
introduction,
we
are
essentially
landlords
with
hundreds
of
tenants
and
they
all
have
different
needs
and
the
ability
to
relocate.
D
D
I
guess,
I'm
a
function
over
form
guy.
So
you
know
palm
trees
and
pavers
for
me
aren't
as
important
as
the
operational
stuff,
but
I
understand
the
importance
of
it
based
on
the
city's
vision,
historical
vision
of
this
so
yeah,
I
think
you
know
we
will
have
those
discussions
when
it
comes
time
to
really
fine
tune,
what's
really
important,
what's
a
necessity
and
what's
a
nicety,
hopefully
that
helps
I
wanted
to.
D
Like
I
said
I
I
had
this
was
my
first
couple
weeks
in
I'm
like
that's
that's
a
big
number,
but
when
you
look
at
the
reasons
behind
it
that
the
inflation,
the
contingencies
that
that
accounts
for
most
of
it-
and
I
will
tell
you,
interestingly
enough
no5-
the
initial
study
was
just
for
the
docs
and
0.5,
and
that
was
8
million
dollars.
D
And
then
you
know
the
city
allocated
some
funds
in
1617
from
penny
money.
And
then
you
know
when
you
factor
in
inflation
and
some
of
these
other
things
it
it's.
Our
original
number
probably
was
insufficient
in
1617,
but
we're
working
to
address
those
things
and
having
those
conversations
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions.
If
I'm,
if
I'm
able,
if
I'm
not
I'll
pump
and.
E
Follow
up
the
last
meeting,
you
know
several
of
the
fishermen
and
folks
that
are
the
commercial
people
were
here
and
they
expressed
some
some
concerns
about
having
space
for
the
fact
that
the
fwc
comes
in
and
does
you
know,
looks
at
their
fish
and
takes
samples
or
something
I
don't
remember
all
the
details
but
and
they
were
concerned
there
wasn't
going
to
be
room
for
them
to
operate
and
things
like
that
and
I'm
just
curious.
E
D
Well,
so
it
just
depends
on
you
know,
and
I
wasn't
here
for
that-
I
kind
of
I
understand.
I've
looked
at
the
minutes
and
I
I
I
think,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
everybody
has
a
unique
problem
that
they
may
have
to
overcome
with
this
new
design,
yeah
to
see
2
000
pounds
of
fish
laid
out
on
our
promenade
might
be
problematic,
but
I
will
say
that
I've
always
found
a
solution
to
every
problem.
D
It
may
not
be
the
best
one,
but
I
think
you
know
I
I've
not
seen
an
fwc
or
noah
ramp
check
where
they've
dumped
everyone's
fish
out
in
a
big
pile
on
the
dock.
It
may
happen,
but
I
don't
know
I
see
a
bigger
issue
with
their
the
loss
of
ice
machines,
the
ability
to
store
equipment
adjacent
to
your
vessel.
D
D
And-
and
I
don't
know
that,
there's
a
solution
to
a
lot
of
those
in
terms
of
an
engineered
solution,
because
the
absent
leaving
everything
alone
and
staying
status
quo.
You
have
to
address
these
things
and
you
know
I
would
say
that
I
know
some
of
the
structures
and
things
are
permitted
out
there.
I
recognize
that
they
go
way
way
back,
but
ultimately
I
don't
see
a
scenario
and
I've
heard
you
know:
we've
talked
about
parking
and
parking
garages
and
things
in
the
past.
There's
there's
not
a
definitive
plan
moving
forward
for
that.
D
But
but
you
know
I've
heard
folks
say
well,
we'll
put
you
know
storefronts
in
the
bottom
floor.
You
can't
do
that
anymore
and
I
think
that's
the
recognition
you
can
put
storage
in
bottom
floors
so
potentially
down
the
road
there's
an
opportunity
to
do
that,
but
I
think
this
will
fundamentally
change
their
the
logistics
of
a
lot
of
the
operations.
That's
probably
the
best
way
to
describe
it.
It's
you
know
a
logistics
challenge
and
I
don't
think,
there's
an
engineering
design
challenge,
because
it's
it's
not
allowable
anymore.
D
That's
as
frank
as
I
can
be
about
it.
I
mean
it's
not
me
saying
I
don't
want
you
to
have
it.
It's
me
saying:
that's
not
allowable
the
only
alternative
to
to
retain
what
exists
now
is
to
leave
it
alone,
and
I
don't
think
that's
an
option
because
it's
got
to
come
down
and
even
if
I
replace
with
timber
structure
along
the
commercial
waterfront,
nothing
can
be
on
top
of.
So
it's
it's.
It's
a
problem
that
I
don't
think
the
engineers
can
engineer
out
of
a
rebuild.
It's
a
code
problem
that
you
can't
engineer
around.
D
D
It's
only
my
first,
so
one
of
them
is
who
who
is
it
that
determine
what
the
budget
is?
How
did
we
come
up
with
that
number?
So,
generally
speaking,
capital
improvement
budgets
are
planned
well
in
advance.
I
think
what
happens
a
lot
of
times.
Is
that
far
in
advance?
You
don't,
if
you
don't,
have
a
design
team
designing
it
at
the
point
you
set
the
budget,
it's
a
best
guess
scenario
based
on
what
you
think
it
may
be
in
the
future.
D
So
it's
not
until
you
have
a
design
team
and
then
ultimately
a
construction
manager
that
comes
in
and
says.
Well,
you
know
that
number
is
great,
but
you
know
stainless
steel
is
tripled
in
price
by
the
time
that
we
have
a
construction
manager
involved.
So
to
your
point,
we've
seen
that
not
infrequently
within
city
government.
It
occurs
because
these
are
so
far
in
advance
that
you're
just
basically
giving
it
the
best
assessment
you
can
when
you,
when
you
silo
this
money
or
or
allocate
it.
So
we
can't
just
redefine
the
budget.
D
So
there
may
be
an
opportunity
to
have
that
conversation
with
the
city,
manager
and
council
to
say
we
may
need
additional
funding
and,
and
then
we
we
are
in
a
position
because
we're
an
enterprise
fund.
Can
we
pay
that
back?
What's
the
payback
time
on
six
million
seven
hundred
thousand,
if
I
can
charge
market
rate
for
the
recreational
slips
and
perhaps
that's
a
short
timetable.
D
So
yes,
I
mean
all
those
things
are
in
play
and
it's
it's
a
valid
point,
because
I've
been
involved
in
several
projects
over
the
years
and
my
my
philosophy
was
always
well
give
me
your
best
number
and
let's
double
it
now,
because
it's
always
more.
D
C
Dilapidated,
so
can
I
ask
us
just
a
couple
things
based
on
your
comments
and
based
on
things
we
discussed
last
time.
I
have
feeling
they're
changing
fine,
I'm
not
criticizing
that
I'm
just
wondering
if
I'm
right
making
that
assumption.
So,
for
instance,
I
think
we
have
165
slips,
the
hope
was
to
keep
165..
C
D
D
The
latest,
iterations
and
and
one
of
the
potential
plans-
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
in
too
much
detail
about
it,
but
one
of
the
potential
plans
would
effectively
eliminate
this
entire
dock
and
phase
it
in
later,
which
that's
revenue
from
about
I'm
sorry,
I
missed
that
which
one
did
you
point
out
yeah
this
one
right
here:
okay,
so
if,
if
that
were
the
case
and
you
eliminate
an
entire
recreational
dock,
you
eliminate
the
revenue
from
40
slips
for
a
period
of
time
until
you
face
the
project,
would
it
not
be
better
for
me
to
to
you
know,
retain
the
revenue
and
then
pay
back,
but
those
things
are
all
those
are
management.
D
D
Unfortunately,
you
can't
cut
costs
without
cutting
things
and
and
that's
the
exercise
we're
going
through
to
just
see
if
we
were
to
try
and
stay
within
the
existing
budget.
What
does
that
structure?
Look
like
what
impact
does
it
have
so
effectively?
We
would
lose
about
40
recreational
slips
until
we
phased
it
in
at
a
later
date.
Phasing
in
gives
me
a
little
pause
just
based
on
my
experience,
but
you
know
if
we
can
generate
revenue
if
we
rebuild
the
rec
docks
and
and
increase
the
rates
to
whatever
the
market
rate
might
be.
D
Certainly
there's
the
potential
to
pay
that
back,
but
those
are
all
different
discussions.
I
think
the
next
you
know
discussion
will
probably
be
initiated
when
we
get
the
design
team
before
council
and
have
those
higher
level
conversations
with
council
members
to
see
what
their
desire
is.
I
have
seen
you
know
several
projects
that
we've
slowed
down
or
pumped
the
brakes
on,
just
because
of
the
cost
and
the
the
volatility
in
the
materials
and
supply
and
demand
and
those
kind
of
things
you
know
we
met
with
duke
energy
the
other
day
and
there.
F
G
I
had
a
question
about
you.
You
gave
the
analogy
of
the
bathroom
on
the
second
floor.
You
can't
build
anything
yet
there's
new
hotels
on
clearwater
beach
that
have
lobbies
they're,
not
lobbies
with
check-in
desks,
but
there
are
air-conditioned
lobbies
that
you
walk
into
from
the
ground
level
and
the
elevators
are
there
with
there's
couches
and
there's.
You
know
places
to
sit
and
it's
habitable
so
to
speak.
So
you
know
I
question:
if
there's
not
some
way
to
get
around
that
requirement
to
have
absolutely
nothing
on
below
the
floodplain
constructed
and.
D
Yeah
and
that's
that's
definitely
worthy
of
conversation,
because
that's
just
not
what
I
do,
I'm
just
relying
on
what
I've
been
told
by
those
folks
that
do
that
building
permitting
and
then
the
engineers.
So
so
it's
an
interplay
between
the
engineers
and
permitting
and
building
and
engineer
wants
to
do
something
then
they're
told
no,
and
then
they
have
to
come
back
and
say
well
why?
Why
can't
we
do
that
and
then
they
try
and
see
if
there's
there's
a
flexibility
as
like
what
we
call
it
here
in
clearwater.
D
G
G
D
So
you
know:
we've
we've
looked
at
that.
Do
we
leave
this
segment
alone?
Do
we
remove
a
wrecked
dock?
I
mean
so.
We've
looked
at
several
different
iterations,
several
different
opportunities.
The
problem
is
you
can't
leave
that
seawall
alone
because
of
the
utilities
that
we
have
to
access
behind
it
and
I
think
that
and
then
they
have
to
put
tie
backs
in
and
again
this
is
a
temporary
fix
for
the
sea
wall.
The
the
ultimate
plan
and
the
ultimate
phasing
will
be
to
put
a
new
seawall
in
a
couple
feet:
seaward
of
the
existing
one.
D
That's
that's
going
to
have
to
happen,
but
they,
the
team,
felt
that
they,
if
they
can
attack
the
sea
wall
shore,
it
up,
put
some
anchors
behind
it
and
then
attack
the
utilities,
but
they
have
to
remove
all
that
dock
to
get
to
it
and
that's
the
problem,
so
anything
that
would
leave
something
intact.
The
city
would
insist
on
an
inspection
of
that
component
to
make
sure
that
it's
safe
to
leave
it
alone
for
several
more
years.
Perhaps
so,.
E
Dumb
question
and
again
this
is
only
my
second
meeting
too
so
maybe
some
of
these
things
were
discussed.
I
don't
know
what
the
you
know.
The
seawall
project
entails
right
off:
I've
owned
waterfront
property
with
seawall,
so
I
have
a
little
bit
of
an
understanding
of
it,
but
why
wouldn't
we
tackle
that?
D
D
So
you
know,
and
then,
when
you
start
talking
about
phasing,
I
think
mobilization
costs
demobilization
costs.
All
these
things
have
the
potential
to
increase
the
cost
dramatically,
but
yeah
so
to
access
any
component
of
that
symbol.
All
those
stocks
have
to
come
out
so
again
we're
still
going
through
the
exercise
with
the
planning
team.
D
So
I
can't
I
don't
want
to
be
non-committal
to
anything
because
we
don't
know
where
we're
gonna
go
with
it,
but
we
have
three
potential
phased
approaches,
some
of
which
leave
some
of
that
alone
for
a
period
of
time
we
don't
know
if
that's
doable
based
on
the
utilities.
Do
we
do
we
leave?
You
know
the
utilities
intact,
on
half
the
the
marina
and
then
address
them
on
the
other.
I
don't
know-
and
I
don't
know
what
the
the
best
approach
is.
D
But
that's
what
you
know
engineering
teams
are
for,
and
they
can
tell
us
what
we
can
and
can't
do,
but
anything
that
would
leave
existing
structures
intact.
We
would
have
to
spend
additional
monies
to
have
it
thoroughly
evaluated.
You
know.
A
piling
out
there
from
over
40
years
ago
is
probably
in
really
rough
shape.
C
D
I'll
know
more
meeting
with
the
city
manager
on
the
14th
and
just
because
there
was
a
provision
in
the
design
team's
contract
that
they
do
a
proposal
to
counsel.
Generally
speaking,
these
projects
go
with
the
30,
because
you've
got
a
good
idea
of
what
it
looks
like
and
then
you
know
they
can
present
that
to
council
on
the
potential
cost.
So
we'll
we'll
see,
I
haven't
agenda
yet
because
I'm
waiting
for
for
guidance
to
figure
out
where
you
know
the
timing
of
these
things
we're
kind
of
constrained.
D
D
I
can
speak
to
it,
so
I've
spoken
to
the
clerk,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
guys
are
insulated
from
any
sunshine
law
questions
and
having
a
board
member
participate
in
something
that
the
other
board
members
don't
have
the
same
opportunity
to
participate
in
is
problematic.
D
So
I
I
will
say
that
you
know
that
is
that's
where
we
are
with
this
I
mean
I
even
thought
do
I
do
I
find
a
representative-
that's
not
affiliated
with
this
board
or
council
from
the
commercial
fleet
to
speak
on
behalf,
but
what
I'm
finding
is
everyone's
got
a
different
opinion.
I
don't
think
I
don't.
I
don't
have
that
unified.
D
Approach
to
it,
so
I'm
still
working.
You
know
on
a
strategy
to
have
that
engagement
and
participation,
because
I
think
it's
important,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
appropriate
and
I
don't
you
know
you
guys-
don't
run
a
foul
of
sunshine
law
stuff.
So
I've
had
those
conversations
with
the
clerk.
Basically
saying
that
if
I
went
to
that
meeting.
A
That
I
would
be
getting
prior
knowledge
that
you,
people,
weren't,
privileged
of
and
and
technically,
wouldn't
be
able
to
share
it
with
you,
except
maybe
at
this
meeting,
but
it
would
just
be
if
you
read
that
sunshine
law,
which
was
in
the
paperwork
when
you
joined
the
board,
you're
stepping
right
on
it.
It's
it's
it.
It's
a
good
thought
that
we
don't.
I
think
the
goal
was
not
to
waste
the
designers
or
eric's
time
with
upgrading
us,
where
one
of
us
could
do
that
and
that's
exactly
what
the
sunshine
law
has
done.
A
A
D
F
D
It
creates
some
challenges
when
it
comes
to
these
things.
There's
you
know
legitimate
reasons
why
it
is
the
way
it
is,
but
for
me
I'm
a
much
more
one-on-one
casual
kind
of
conversation,
and
I
get
ideas
that
way
and
it's
helpful
to
a
guy
like
me,
but
I
will
share
anything
I
can
possibly
share
during
the
course
of
these
meetings.
D
I'm
still
looking
at
kind
of
some
kind
of
mechanism
to
engage
a
representative
from
the
commercial
interests
and
perhaps
even
the
wreck
interest,
but
I
don't
know
the
mechanism
to
do
that
as
long
as
it's
not
a
board
member,
but
then
how
do
we?
How
do
we
identify
somebody
and
I've
already
seen
conflicts
between
our
tenants?
D
So
you
know
I'm
sure,
immediately
upon
selection,
someone
would
be
critiqued
for
not
having
the
interest
of
somebody
else
in
mind.
So
it's
a
challenge,
but
all
I
can
do
is
be
as
candid
as
possible
when
we
have
these
conversations.
I
I
I
think,
that's
you
know
the
best
approach,
and
then
you
have
the
information
you
need,
and
then
council,
by
way
of
our
minutes
in
our
meetings,
has
access
to
that.
C
D
D
D
I'll
cover
another
director's
report,
great
easy
enough,
so
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
even
when
I
was
at
the
pd
and
all
attacked
the
first
one
that
comes
to
mind,
because
it
was
the
one
that
created
a
lot
of
attention,
stevenson's,
creek,
so
stevenson
creek.
It
was
dredged
a
few
years
back.
It
started
to
get
development
and
redevelopment
significant
redevelopment
down
by
the
the
you
know
at
the
mouth
of
the
creek,
where
the
it's
kind
of
like
a
little
bayou
bay
area,
and
we
got
complaints.
D
When
I
was
at
the
pd
of
someone
racing
up
and
down
there.
Those
have
become
more
frequent
jet
ski
incursions
things
of
that
nature.
So
this
was
a
goes
probably
a
year
and
a
half
back
or
so
and,
like
I
said,
I
was
privy
to
this
at
the
pd
side,
because
we
were
looking
at
enforcement
angles
and
is
there
something
we
can
do
so?
The
decision
was
made
to
pursue
the
speed
zone
up
there.
There
was
a
lot
of
banter
back
and
forth
and,
like
I
said
I
was
privy
to
some
of
it.
D
That
was
another
thing.
That
kind
of
hit
me
head
on
as
soon
as
I
opened
the
door
to
my
office
was
this
because
I
had
several
calls
about
it
and
I
was
again
somewhat
familiar.
So
ultimately,
the
process
involves
think
of
a
community
that
wants
a
traffic
signal
at
what
they
perceive
to
be
a
dangerous
intersection.
So
I
heard
a
lot
of
calls
about
danger,
speeds.
You
know
someone's
going
to
get
seriously
hurt
here
and-
and
I
listened,
but
when
you
look
at
the
stage
process,
you
can
take
one
of
two
paths.
D
Visual
obstructions,
low
bridges,
narrow
bridges
or
you
can
say,
we've
had
this
much
enforcement
in
this
many
accidents,
well,
police
boat
can't
get
in
there,
so
your
enforcement
is
doesn't
happen.
They
can't
get
in
there
and
and
the
frequency
with
which
this
occurs
makes
that
it's
not
a
practical
exercise,
because
you
can
never
predict
when
someone's
going
to
come
in
there
along
the
coast
on
a
jet
ski
and
fly
up
the
creek
or
fly
down
the
creek
in
the
case
of
a
gentleman
that
lived
up
there.
D
So
ultimately,
the
enforcement
numbers
aren't
there,
nor
are
the
accident
numbers
so
think
of
the
intersection
that
fdot
wants
crash
data
from
and
to
decide
whether
they
put
in
a
traffic
light.
The
state
is
much
the
same
way
with
the
waterways.
Although
they're
within
our
jurisdiction
because
they're
navigable
waterways,
they
fall
under
the
state's
authorization
for
any
kind
of
ordinance
in
action.
D
D
They
did
a
number
of
legal
descriptions
for
the
purposes
of
crafting
an
ordinance
and
then
worked
with
legal
and
then
sent
engineering
back
out
and
had
the
survey
to
actually
you
know,
I
can
tell
you
that
that
bridge
isn't
20
feet,
25
feet
high
and-
and
I
can
tell
you
that
it's
narrower
than
you
know,
100
feet.
I
can
tell
you
that
visually,
but
we
have
to
have
numbers,
so
they
had
to
go
back
out
there
and
measure
all
the
bridges
and
I'll
show
you
what
what
ultimately
happened.
D
We
met
with
a
gentleman
in
with
fwc
up
in
tallahassee,
virtually
of
course,
and
ultimately,
our
proposal
involved.
The
entirety
of
stevenson's
creek
made
sense
to
me
as
a
voter
that
it's
narrow,
limited
site
distances
multiple
bridges,
pedestrian
bridge.
Can
we
get
the
entirety
of
stevenson
creek
covered
under
this
wake
zone?
It
made
sense
to
me.
D
So
that's
the
best
we
can
do
in
our
application
and
that's
the
best
we
can
hope
for
for
an
ordinance
at
this
point
in
time
I
heard
the
grapevine
that
they
may
be
reconsidering
some
of
these
distances
in
the
future
and
the
width
of
the
waterway
because,
as
we
know,
boating
is
taking
off
in
florida
and
there's
jet
skis
and
vessels,
and
every
waterway
and
creek
on
demand.
So
it
wasn't
what
we
had
hoped
for,
but
ultimately
it's
better
than
nothing
and
it.
D
It
addresses
some
of
the
issues
we
were
having
there
and
if
the
safety
concern
you
can
see
why
they,
you
could
see
the
limited
distances
around
those
bridges,
the
inability
to
see
and
go
flying
through.
There
makes
no
sense.
So
I
think
it's
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
get
that
enumerated
an
ordinance
and
get
it
before
council.
A
A
E
Yeah,
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
for
that
is
because
we
have
so
much
waterfront
property.
That's
been
built
up
like
islands
estates
and
things
like
that.
That's
part
of
the
reason
that,
because
I
do
boating,
you
know
I
vote
all
over
the
place,
but
so
just
to
so
you
when
you're
aware
I
live
right
here
on
the
creek.
That's
and
my
wife
is
one
of
the
people
calling
you
guys,
because
the
guy
that
was
screaming
down
the
creek
is
was
going
to
kill
somebody.
E
He
hasn't
been
using
his
boat
lately,
thank
god,
but
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
mention
is
you
know:
manatee
are
in
this
creek
constantly
and
I
at
the
last
meeting
I
think
I
mentioned
that.
Is
there
a
way
to
use
the
fact
that
this
is
this
creek
is
is
filled
with
manatees
a
lot
of
the
year
I
mean
they're
up
and
down.
D
This
when
we
looked
at
all
this,
this
was
the
most
direct
and
appropriate
approach.
To
do
this,
I
mean
if,
if
there
was
an
easier
way
to
have
done
it
yeah,
I
would
have
done
it.
So
I
don't
see
that
I
mean
this
has
taken
hundreds
of
man-hours
and
surveys,
and
I
mean
this
is
not
an
easy,
I'm
sure
it
wasn't
trivial.
D
D
This
isn't
a
done
deal
yet
it
still
has
to
go
up
to
tallahassee
officially
as
an
application.
They
have
to
give
this
authorization.
Then
it
has
to
come
back
for
council
action
as
an
ordinance.
So
the
believe
the
belief
that
just
put
a
few
signs
in
because
I've
heard
that
a
couple
times,
why
don't
you
just
put
some
signs?
D
Specified
in
the
statute
on
how
to
address
it
yeah,
so
that
brings
me
to
another
one,
and
this
is
the
the.
D
The
other
area
that
we
were
asked
to
review
and
it's
the
orange
area
specified
and
the
rationale
behind
that
area
was
to
make
it
consistent
with
essentially
the
rest
of
the
waterways
out
there
and.
D
The
the
the
argument
was
that-
and
the
statute
specifies
that
if
you
have
a
marina
with
launching
and
retrieving
capabilities
or
fueling
capabilities,
you
can
you
can
set
a
300
foot.
You
know
distance
from
there,
so
we
kind
of
took
it
a
step
further
and
said.
Well,
we
have
you
know
it
makes
no
sense
to
have
this
circle,
extending
300
feet
from
the
clearwater
yacht
club
and
then
have
the
rest
of
it
as
a
full
wake
zone.
D
D
So
that's
the
response
we
got.
So
that's
a
non-starter
for
that
area
cannot
get
awake
zone
in
there.
It
doesn't
meet
the
again
black
and
white
criteria
specified
in
statute
and
the
if
you
want
for
reference,
the
statute
is
327.46.
D
E
D
Around
them
yeah,
so
I
only
say
it's
a
75
or
75,
so
some
just
75
yards
out.
So
when
you
look
at
I,
when
you
look
at
island
estates,
some
of
those
are
all
slow
speed
zones,
anything
within
that
yellow
and
then,
if
you
look
at
the
east
end
of
island
estates,
those
buoys
are
75.
75
yards
75
yards
out,
so
that's
that's
actually
codified
in
the
ordinance.
But.
D
Well,
it
has
to
be
when
you
see
an
ordinance
that
refers
to
a
wake
zone.
It'll
have
coordinates,
and
that's
the
exact
area
covered
by
that
and
then
it'll
say,
or
you
know,
bounded
by
this,
this
lat
line
and
this
one
and
this
one
and
and
then
we'll
say
and
within
75
yards
of
whatever.
D
D
To
get
legal
descriptions
for
all
these
things
right
and
yeah
they're
tired
of
my
requests
already,
because
we
had
to
keep
coming
back
and
say:
okay!
Well
what
about
this?
You
know
because
it
was
all
of
stephen's
creek,
so
they
did
illegal
for
the
whole
creek
only
to
come
back
and
have
to
do
these
unique
legal
descriptions
for
300
feet,
radius
from
each
bridge.
F
D
Much
more
complicated,
I
was
hopeful
I
could
just
put
in
some
buoys
and
some
signs.
D
Not
the
way
things
work
so
that
concludes
my
director's
report.
I
think,
hopefully,
I've
touched
all
the
bases,
I'm
sure
as
soon
as
we
leave
I'll
remember
something
I
wanted
to
mention,
but
hopefully
that
covers
it.
Anybody
else
have
any
more
questions.
I
had
a
couple
quick
questions.
I.
H
H
You
know
last
year
may
especially
2020.
You
know
I
could.
I
could
buy
diesel
fuel
for
76
cents
a
gallon,
so
you
know
I
I
came
across
and
I
wanted
to
compete
plus
help
out
the
commercial
tenants
with
you
know
them
going
off
site
to
collect
fuel
and
everything.
So
our
markup
was
30.
H
H
So
there's
been
a
couple
days
where
I
actually
sold
fuel
to
the
commercial
tenants
for
less
than
than
then
I
purchased
the
fuel
which,
which
is
fine,
because
we're
talking
hundreds
of
dollars
not
not
not
a
whole
lot,
but
just
playing
that
balancing
act
right
now.
That's
very
volatile
and
the
gas
is
what
we're
seeing
a
big
rise
in
right
now,
diesel
starting
to
come
back
diesel
for
about
two
weeks,
dropped
off
quite
a
bit.
Now
it's
back
on
the
rise,
but
fuels
just
seems
like
it.
Could
incrementally.
H
Don't
know
it's
still
463,
I
haven't
changed
it
yet,
but
I'm
waiting
on
invoices
for
the
commercial
and
578
for
just
the
retail
sale
thanks.
G
For
taking
the
the
fixed
increase
approach
or
the
fixed
yeah
yeah.
H
I
mean
I
want
to
compete.
I
don't
like
you
guys
having
to
go
off
site
to
get
fuel,
and
I
understand
why
you
do
because
when
you're
talking
about
the
amount
of
fuel
that
you're
getting
you're
talking
about
savings
of
500,
so
we
stick
with
it
but
yeah.
So
I
try
to
I.
I
try
to
accommodate
that
to
capture
some
of
that.
H
G
I
mentioned
at
one
point
letting
the
those
operators
that
are
going
off
site.
G
H
Yeah,
I
mean
you
know,
there's
a
lot
there's
a
lot
that
you
know
went
into
this
last
contract
that
we
have
with
palmdale.
So
we'll
look
at
you
know
in
another
year
or
two
when
this
contracts
up
we'll,
you
know
we'll
look
at
some
other
things.
You
know
a
lot
of
pride
that
we
have
in
our
fuel
is.
We
have
really
good
fuel.
We
attribute
a
lot
of
that
to
that
valve
tech.
You
know
they
got
the
the
anti-algae,
the
herbicide
things
in
it.
H
You
know
we're
very
meticulous
about
my
fuel
water
in
the
fuel,
everything
else,
so
that
valvetech
is
something
that
you
know
we
support
and
and
we're
proud
of
it.
It's
good
fuel
in
john's
pass.
G
The
hubbards
have
a
fuel
tank
there
and
they
get
a
full
truck
load
and
then
we
would
only
be
getting
a
smaller
load
and
whatever
that
load
would
be
to
truck
it
in
that's
what
that's,
what
hubbard
charges
us,
what
it
would
cost
is
we
got
a
truck
on
his
own.
He
still
makes
money
on
it
because
he
gets
a
better
price
yeah,
and
that
keeps
me
at
the
dock
getting
fuel
there
and
he
makes
something
I
get
the
same
price
of
what
everybody
wins.
B
I
had
a
question
about
our
revenue
sources,
so
I
hear
that
fuel
is
one
of
them.
Tenants
paying
for
their
slips
is
another
one.
D
Yeah
I
mean
it's:
it's
relatively
straightforward:
it's
slip,
rentals
fuel,
some
ancillary
stuff
ice
and
then
leases
from
some
of
our
businesses.
So
that's
that
those
are
the
sources
it's
very
similar
to
the
air
park.
It's
flip
rental
or
rentals
and
fuel.
B
Has
there
been
any
discussion
about
diversifying
or
adding
to
those
or
anything
like
that?
What
comes
to
mind
for
me
is
we
have
the
boat
races
here
for
a
couple
of
years
and
it
seems
like
that's
an
independent
organization
that
puts
on
the
races
here,
so
that
could
possibly
be
a
partnership
that
we
could
look
at
and
I'm
thinking
about
this,
because
if
we
need
an
extra
six
million
dollars
for
the
marina
project,
we
need
to
be
thinking
about.
All
of
our
revenue.
D
D
So
I
I
don't
know
other
than
you
know
trying
to
calculate
what
the
economic
impact
to
the
clearwater.
So
I
don't
know
that
you
could
effectively
monetize
that
to
us.
I
just
don't
having
been
around
those
and
seen
how
they
operate.
I
think
you
know
the
city
is
contributing
a
lot
of
in-kind
type
services.
To
those
events,
I
would
say.
D
You
know:
we've
talked
about
parking
structures,
parking
garages,
that's
merely
kind
of
conceptual
at
this
point-
nothing's
moved
forward
there,
but
is
there
a
potential
to
generate
revenue?
That's
if
it's
marina
specific
through
that
you
know
a
parking
structure
that
goes
into
our
because
they're
coming
to
the
marine
aviation,
marina,
the
cities
marina.
So
I
think,
there's
potential
there.
D
The
leases
were
really
built
out
out
there
as
it
stands,
but
if
you
were
to
put
a
multi-level
parking
structure
out
there,
could
you
put
restaurants
on
top
or
things
like
that,
so
you
know
we've
thought
about
those.
We
were
so
involved
in
the
day-to-day
operations
and
the
the
variety
of
these
projects.
Right
now
that
you
know
that
that
hasn't
been.
A
Sort
of
on
our
radar
having
helped
put
together
a
budget
for
what
was
the
initial
flagship,
niagara
offshore
powerboat,
run
in
erie
pennsylvania
right
before
I
moved
down
here,
there's
not
a
lot
of
money
there
by
the
time,
the
prize
money
by
the
time,
the
insurance.
By
the
time
that
you
pay
all
the
bills
you're
saying.
Maybe
if
we
just
raise
the
you
know
entry
fee
a
little
bit
we'll
cover
all
this.
If
nothing
goes,
it
was
every
the
fir.
A
A
D
Probably
the
the
best
way
to
you
know:
maximize
profitability.
If
you
will
is
prop
up
a
high-end
really
nice
facility
and
the
demand
is
there
for
those
high-end
rec
slips
and
they'll
be
there
unless
we
have
something
catastrophic
and
in
the
market,
another
significant
recession,
but
we
get
calls
all
day
long.
We
have
a
sloppy
episode.
Do
you
have
a
slip?
And
I
think
if
you
offered
something.
D
D
It's
never
well
received
when
anyone
gets
a
rate
increase,
of
course,
but,
like
I
said
earlier,
my
intent
for
the
future
is
to
give
that
plenty
of
advance
notice.
So
no
one's
caught
off
guard.
I
didn't,
I
did
get
one
and
it
was.
I
had
a
good
conversation
with
somebody,
but
it
was.
It
was
nominal.
It
was
at
the
lower
end
of
the
rate
increase
and
it
was
a
wreck
slip
and
they've
had
it
for
a
long
time.
D
D
I
don't
know
I
mean.
So
it's
all
about
perspective.
Everyone
has
a
different
perspective,
so
those
are
sensitive
things
and
I
would
tell
you
and-
and
you
know
when
this
marina
is
under
construction
and
we're
going
through
all
these
our
plan
is
to
not
have
any
increases
during
those
periods.
I
think
once
we're
done.
The
marine
is
complete.
D
You'll
see
incremental
adjustments
until
we
get
to
market
rate
whatever
that
is
at
the
time.
I
think
that's
prudent,
that's
a
way
to
repay
the
investment.
I
wouldn't
want
to
go
overnight
and
go
from.
You
know:
13
bucks,
a
foot
to
19.,
that's
a
significant
impact,
so
you
would
have
to
phase
that
in
and
have
an
inflationary
component
phased
in
as
well,
because
that's
what
we're
all
dealing
with
right
now
I
mean
I've
had
some.
You
know
commercial
lease
increases
that
were
tied
to
cpi
and
things
like
that
and
that's
significant
right
now.
D
So
I
think
we
have
to
be
sensitive
to
it.
You
know,
as
you
guys
know,
we
didn't
do
any
increase
for
the
harbor,
because
we're
dealing
with
imagine
all
the
dirt
dust
and
inconvenience
of
trying
to
get
to
their
vessels.