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B
Julie
Battaglia
yeah
Miranda,
Douglas,
Kevin
Lachlan.
A
All
right
so
with
that
first
item
of
business
is
the
review
and
approval
of
the
minutes
from
our
last
meeting
three
months
ago.
Hope
everyone
has
read
the
minutes.
Do
you
have
any
corrections
or
changes
to
the
minutes.
A
Can
we
have
a
recommendation
to
approve
the
minutes
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
from
last
month?
Second,
all
right,
so
all
in
favor
aye
all
right.
Terrific
second
item
on
the
agenda
citizens
to
be
heard
regarding
items
not
on
the
agenda,
but
I,
don't
see
anyone
in
the
room,
so
I
presume
that
we
can
move
right
through
that
and
new
business
items.
F
Morning,
everybody
Eric
Gandy,
marine
and
Aviation
director
I
got
it's
a
pretty
decent
list.
D
D
So
we
had
a
tremendous
amount
of
effort
and
correspondence
between
our
Congressional
delegates
and
DC
and
through
efforts
of
Charlie
Crist,
Marco
Rubio.
D
We've
we've
moved
this
forward
to
the
extent
that's
going
to
be
included
in
the
water
bill
and
upon
the
president's
signature.
That
channel
should
be
vacated
so
that
will
allow
us.
We
put
a
pause
on
the
project
and
we
paused
the
project
because
we
didn't
want
to
spend
funds
with.
D
The
uncertainty
before
us
so
that'll
allow
the
design
team
to
to
move
the
project
forward,
to
the
extent
that
it
will
be
able
to
go
through
30
design
and
and
we'll
move
it
along.
The
other
thing
that
I
mentioned
and
I've
mentioned
to
council.
D
Let
me
let
me
pull
this
up
that
I
mentioned
the
council
was
you
know
we
didn't
address
the
sea
wall
in
this
project
and
that
component
of
the
project
was
critical
to
us,
because
we're
going
to
do
all
the
Upland
we're
doing
the
utilities
and
the
water
and
the
sewer,
but
we're
having
existing
Seawall
that's
over
50
years
old,
so
Council
was
supportive
of
doing
this
correctly
and
moving
it
forward
and
then,
at
the
same
time,
they
agreed
to
have
us
investigate
the
potential
for
a
parking
garage
at
the
location.
D
This
you
know,
go
ahead
from
Council
has
allowed
us
to
attack
the
seawall
problem,
come
back
in
with
Timber
docks
or
the
commercial
Fleet,
which
is
desirable
for
them
and
desirable
for
my
stacks,
if
we
can
fix
them
when
they
get
broken,
and
it
also
allows
for
the
you
know,
pursuit
of
a
parking
garage
at
the
location,
because
what
happens
is
when
we
rebuild
this
thing.
None
of
the
overwater
storage
is
allowed
anymore.
D
None
of
that
stuff's
permissible,
so
our
thought
process
was
well
if
we
lose
parking
spaces
to
the
redesign
anyway,
could
we
give
some
back
in
the
form
of
a
parking
garage
and
use
the
ground
level
for
a
permissible
use,
which
is
storage
for
the
commercial
Fleet?
So
it's
really
a
win-win
all
the
way
around.
D
If
we
can
pull
that
component
off,
but
the
very
positive
news
is
the
ability
to
address
the
sea
wall
and
the
federal
Channel
component
and
I
must
say:
I
corresponded
with
him
after
the
fact
that
you
know
so,
Charlie
Chris
was
involved
early
on.
He
got
us
a
meeting
with
the
Corps
of
Engineers
Rick
Scott
and
Marco
Rubio
were
supportive,
but
a
tremendous
amount
of
support
came
from
our
own
Gospel.
D
Iraqis
I
think
he
was
really
heavily
involved
in
moving
this
thing,
so
corresponded
with
him
after
the
fact-
and
thank
he's
he's
definitely
been
a
HomeTown
guy
and
knows
the
importance
and
knows
that
facility
so
excited
about
all
of
it.
The
timing
of
it
will
just
be
upon
the
president's
signature,
and
you
know
we
should
be
able
to
vacate
a
small
portion
of
that
Federal
Channel,
which
it
could
do
to
me.
Is
you
know
the
the
core
of
engineer
won't.
Tell
me:
I
have
an
illegal
Marina
anymore,
some
exciting.
A
D
I'm
not
sure
the
timetable
within
the
next
a
month
or
so
I,
don't
think
it
will
I
think
it
will
take
place
relatively
quickly,
despite
the
fact
that
we
have
a
new
Congress
coming
in
in
January,
I.
Think
I
think
this
will
move
relatively
quickly,
but
what
our
lobbyists
has
indicated
so
so
got
my
fingers
crossed,
but
it's
in
there
and
we
relate
to
the
party
and
it
through
the
efforts
of
of
you,
know
our
Representatives,
we
really
and
Senators.
D
We
really
got
fortunate
that
they
were
able
to
incorporate
it
into
this
existing
bill
that
had
already
made
it
through
both
sides.
Big
deal
big
deal
for
us
and
it
was
an
obstacle
that
gave
us
pause
because
those
water
bills
were
on
even
years.
So
we
would
have
to
wait
till
24
to
try
and
move
it.
So
big
big
deal
any
more
questions
about
that
one.
D
D
So
the
commercial
Fleet
that
runs
around
the
perimeter
slips.
Yes,
those
will
be
timbered
construction,
the
the
remaining
docks
which
are
all
the
recreational
Fleet
and
the
transient
slips
will
all
be
floating
concrete
fuel
dock
too
yeah
fueled,
octave
and
that
there's
some
advantages
to
that
yeah
and
then
most
significantly,
the
the
resiliency,
the
resiliency
issue,
because
we
have
periods
of
time
in
a
big
full
moon
time
where
we
have
to
turn
the
power
off
because
it
goes
so
high.
D
So
so
that
will
you
know
rise
with
with
you
know
the
significant
Tides
we
have,
and
you
know,
in
the
event
of
a
surge
event,
we
we
have
a
lot
more
latitude
with
that
floating
system,
so
but
yeah
we're
gonna
proceed
to
30
design
and
then
move
it
along
then,
and
then
simultaneously,
engineering
and
the
parking
division
are
going
to
be
looking
at
the
prospect.
D
Budget
with
that
separate
project,
we're
basically
we've
got
Council
authorization
to
to
kind
of
you
know.
Do
the
research
look
at
some
proformas?
Look
at
you
know,
look
at
what
it
would
take
to
build
something
like
that.
There
there's
some
challenges.
You
know
the
water
table's
High
we're
grandfathered
in
for
for
stormwater
stuff.
D
Now,
if
you
build
a
new
structure,
you
have
to
deal
with
storm
water
and
permitting,
and
so
there
are
some
challenges,
but
those
are
the
kind
of
things
they're
going
to
try
and
work
through
and
figure
out
the
feasibility
of,
not
the
first
time.
It's
come
up,
I
recall
in
15
16.
It
came
up
once
before.
There
were
some
conversations
about
it,
but
it
though,
for
me
it's
it's,
you
know
it's,
it's
a
need.
We
have
out
there.
D
We
have
a
volume
versus
capacity
issue
at
that
Marina
and
and
we're
frequently
at
peak
times
at
a
couple
of
the
fact
that
this
project
we're
going
to
lose
about
40
spaces
to
make
this
project
work
because
we
had
to
give
the
commercial
Fleet
point
of
sale
little
kiosks.
When
we
do
that
Upland
we
beat
into
the
parking
spaces
so
we're
giving
them
something,
but
taking
a
little
away
in
the
terms
of
parking.
So
you
know
I'm
hopeful
and
then
the
storage
issue
is
huge.
D
Storage
ice
supplies
right
now,
many
of
them
have
over
water
structure
storage,
which
none
of
which
is
permissible,
but
that
was
last
70,
so
it
just
you
know,
things
have
changed.
A
D
That
the
the
ask
is
to
have
the
design
teams
coordinate.
So
when
we're
talking
about
the
preliminary
design
for
a
parking
garage
and
investigating
all
this,
how
would
this
work?
The
marina,
will
obviously
come.
First,
this
Project's
been
long
long
awaited
we've
been
moving
it
forward,
so
it's
that
was
really
the
thrust
start
interrupt.
D
That
was
really
what
was
in
my
mind,
you
know:
do
we
have
to
wait
for
a
garage
to
get
finished
before
we
do
this
we're
well
ahead
on
the
marina
project
compared
to
any
kind
of
contemplation
about
a
garage,
the
beasts
were
contemplating
it
and
we're
doing
some
preliminary
design
and
research
necessary
to
determine
if
it's
feasible
or
not.
D
You
know
for
me
for
selfish
reasons.
It
would
be
a
win-win
all
the
way
around
it
would
give.
You
know
our
our
clients
and
our
tenants
their
access,
more
parking
options
and
the
storage
issue
is
huge
for
the
commercial
Fleet,
because
we
are
effectively
taking
the
vast
majority
of
it
away
because
it's
just
it's
not
permissible
anymore
ice
machines
over
water.
D
All
kinds
of
things
like
that
that
they
need
to
do
business
every
day
now
now
have
they
done
it
before
without
those
things
yes,
but
they've
been
doing
it
this
way
for
a
long
time
now,
the
desire
would
be
to
give
that
back
in
some
capacity
vis-a
via
parking
structure
with
ground
level,
storage,
and
things
like
that.
So.
D
My
fingers
crossed
on
that
one,
but
the
you
know
the
certainly
the
priority
for
me
and
my
department
is
moving
the
marina
forward
because
it
is
so
antiquated.
I
keep
a
rusted,
you
know
18
inch
bolt
and
then
my
office
to
show
people.
You
know
the
conditions
we're
dealing
with
and
and
the
thing
was
once
the
three-quarters
inch
in
diameter,
it's
the
size
of
a
pencil.
Now
it's
just
70,
you
know
1970s,
but
the
original
structure
was
in
the
50s,
so
exciting
news
over
the
federal
channel.
D
That
was
that
was
hanging
over
our
head,
so
Stevenson's
Creek,
the
the
wake
zone
update
if
I
went
to
council
I,
think
I'd
explained
the
process
before
but
basically
to
regulate
about
a
water.
You've
got
to
have
the
state's
authorization
from
a
municipality
to
to
regulate
anything.
D
You
have
to
have
the
state's
permission,
so
the
legal
advisor
for
my
department
and
I
met
with
FWC
on
several
occasions
and
had
good
conversations
with
them,
because
what
you're
required
to
do
is
get
an
ordinance
passed
first,
send
it
to
the
state
and
then
if
they
approve
it,
then
you
can
proceed
with
a
permitting
process.
With
fdep
Pinellas
County
Waterway,
State
of
Florida,
Court
of
Engineers,
and
so
on,
so
for
me
it
seems
a
little
bit
backwards.
I
get
the
ordinance
passed
first.
What
if
I
don't
like
it?
D
So
if
they
don't
like
it,
then
I
got
to
go
back
to
council
for
an
amendment
and
it
just
seemed
pretty
cumbersome.
So
they
were
very
helpful,
have
some
good
contacts
in
Tallahassee
and
they
they
helped
us
with
a
construct.
It
looks
like
it
will
past
their
their
scrutiny,
so
Council
passed
that
ordinance
in
November,
so
that
was
the
first
step
in
the
process
and
we
have
a
board
to
help
Shepherd
this
through
the
various
Regulatory
Agencies
and
we're
hopeful
that
we
can
get
that
done
within
about
six
months
of
the
permitting
component.
D
At
the
same
time,
our
staff
is
working
to
set
up
the
markers
and
have
them
ready
to
deploy
upon
approval.
So
you
know
we'll
get
that
component
done.
We
can't
our
equipment
won't
get
into
Stevenson's
Creek
effectively,
so
it'll
be
likely
be
buoys
as
the
regulatory
markers
in
there
just
because
we
can't
get
in
there
with
a
crane
to
drive
piles.
G
D
Yeah
we've
worked
with
with
a
couple
of
those
companies,
I
mean
we,
we
use
them
for
certain
things
that
we
can't
do
it's
going
to
be
a
cost
benefit
analysis.
We
can
deploy
the
buoys
ourselves,
we
have
a
team
for
that.
We
have
the
vessel
to
do
it.
It
will
just
be
we'll
have
to
weigh
the
costs
of
what
it
would
take,
a
private
contractor
to
do
it
versus
our
team
to
play
in
the
movies.
Well,.
G
My
concern
is,
if
you
put
floating
buoys,
they
have
to
be
anchored
and
when
you're
talking
three
foot
water
versus
you
know
at
low
tide
and
six
foot
water,
high
tide,
you're
talking
a
cord
going
from
three
feet
to
six
feet,
long,
that
thing's
going
to
drift
around
a
lot
and
the
Channel's
already
narrow.
And
you
know
you
got
to
pretty
much
stay
the
people
that
live.
You
know
further
up
than
I.
Do
they
have
to
pretty
much
stay
in
the
channel
yeah?
D
D
A
An
example
of
sometimes
it's
a
couple
Grand
to
do
a
piling
with
a
private
contractor
and
if
I
have
to
put
10
in
there.
You
understand
that
one
other
suggestion
that
you
all
probably
know
of
anyway,
but
the
disease
commented
Gulfside
docks
is,
you
know,
run
Paul
Kelly,
who
obviously
ran
this
board
for
many
many
years
and
I'm
sure
it
would
be
sympathetic
to
helping
have
to
have
to
move
out
of
the
city,
which
is
why
he's
no
longer
Affiliated
but
in
any
event,
there's
multiple
options.
Yeah.
D
G
D
I
got
you,
so
that's
that's
another
bit
of
good
news
that
you
know
we're
chipping
away
at
these.
These
significant
projects
that
were
obstacles
I.
G
Did
have
a
question
on
that,
so
you
know
another
six
months.
What
is
it
that
that
makes
it
take
that
long,
just
getting
meetings
with
the.
D
Appropriate
people
you
have
to
have
Your
Design,
you
have
to
sometimes
do
figure
out
surveys.
It
depends
on
the
requirement
of
each
regulatory
agency
and
then
you
submit
it.
They
provide
comments.
It
comes
back
and
when
you're
dealing
with
large
bureaucracies,
these
things
take
time.
I
think
I've
mentioned
to
you
guys
previously
that
you
know
when
I,
when
I
was
at
the
PD.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
over
Stephen
Creek
and
the
thought
was
we'll
just
go
put
in
some
yeah.
D
We
can
regulate
that
locally
and
it's
much
more
and
that's
what
takes
time
is
we
submit
it,
wait
for
a
response
and
some
of
these
entities
take
months
to
respond
and
that's
just
kind
of
the
nature
of
what
you're
dealing
with
I
mean
I
mean
I'm
used
to
moving
much
quicker,
but
it
just
doesn't
work
that
way
same
thing
with
any
of
our
regulatory
markers.
There's
an
approval
process
for
all
of
them
even
to
reset
them.
F
D
D
Heliarc
welder
and
I'll
fix
it
for
you,
it's
much
more
complicated
than
that.
The
the
cast
connectors
that
were
in
the
concrete
have
failed.
D
The
last
activity
I
saw
so
you
know
we
all
know
that
the
the
parking
lot
was
redone
and
the
million
dollar
bathroom
was
put
in,
but
the
ramps
themselves
weren't
addressed,
and
they
were
last
done
in
97.,
so
they're
beyond
their
useful
life.
We've
got
to
look
at
what
it
will
take
to
replace
the
concrete
piers
and
then
the
gangways
and
the
floating
dock
systems.
D
Unfortunately,
this
has
come
at
a
cost
of
adding
the
amenity
of
the
floating
parallel
dock
west
side
of
the
marina
by
the
or
by
the
ranch
by
the
fish
cleaning
table.
There
was
a
proposed
parallel.
D
So
you
know
our
priority
is
the
functionality
and
the
safety
of
one
of
the
heavy
heavily
it's
used?
Launch
facilities
in
accounting
is
going
to
take
some
time.
We
got
a
condition
sure
way.
Next,
we
have
to
get
cost
and
we
have
to
find
a
contractor
to
do
it,
but
I
suspect
it
will
require
a
full
demo
of
those
concrete
piers
replacement
of
the
concrete
Piers
replacement
fabrication
of
the
floating
docks
and
the
gangways
and
then
reinstallation.
D
D
It's
just
not
safe,
so
we're
going
to
remove
the
whole
floating
structure
and
the
gangway
and
then
be
able
to
secure
it
with
a
single
one,
because
the
issue
is
actually
you
know
the
connection
we're
going
to
work
on
that
have
crew
get
out
there
pull
the
thing,
drag
it
out
of
there.
So
it's
it's
not
an
attractive
nuisance
if
you
will,
but
so
that's
that's
going
to
take
some.
D
About
a
12-month
project,
because
we've
got
to
get
the
designs
done
and
then
we
got
to
find
a
contractor
and
then
the
permitting
now
we
should
have
some
exceptions
because
they're
existing
just
so
long
as
we
don't
get
crazy
and
add
significant
footprint
or
anything
like
that.
I
I,
you
know
my
desires,
they've
been
functional
for
all
these
years,
just
replace
them
as
as
they
exist.
Now,
unless
there's
a
better
design
that
that
helps
with
the.
D
Right
activities,
or
else
so
we're
responsible
for
the
overwater
structures,
the
bathroom
and
things
like
that.
This
is
a
partnership
of
the
parking
department.
So
the
revenues
go
to
them,
but
any
significant
projects
we
can
access
marine
and
Aviation
can
access
those
funds
to
make
improvements.
There
there's
also
some
money
allocated
for
that
floating
dock
system.
That
I
think
is
prudent
to
fix
what
we
have,
rather
than
add
an
amenity,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
to
finance
a
little
more
about
that
and
determine
and
I
think
some
Penny
money
is
is
potentially
involved
there.
D
If
that's
the
case,
it
is
an
infrastructure,
it's
a
public
access
ramp
and
that
would
be
an
appropriate
use
for
those
funds.
So
I'm
looking
to
pursue
that
angle,
because
it's
going
to
be
expensive,
there's
no
way
around
it
around
it,
and
you
know
I'm
tend
to
be
pretty
pragmatic
about
these
things.
I'd
rather
fix
what
we
have
and
make
sure
that
it's
completely
functional
before
we
go
adding
anything
else.
It
just
just
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
add
something
new
when
we
got
to
address
what's
what
our
existing
problems
are.
D
So
I
guess:
if
it's
okay,
roll
into
the
director's
report
and
I'll
just
stay
here,
I
just
got
a
couple:
things
I
want
to
touch
on,
so
our
recent
tropical
systems
did
some
significant
damage
to
our
buoy
line
out
at
Sand
Key,
so
300
feet
from
Shore
from
the
effectively
Sand
Key
Park.
D
Down,
maybe
a
mile
and
a
quarter,
we
have
28
buoys
in
the
water
that
are
a
slow
speed,
idle
phone
for
motorized
vessels
and
the
last
storm
put
the
remainder
of
what
we
had
up
in
the
surf
line
and
all
over
the
beach.
So
we've
collected
all
those
and
I've
coordinated
with
FWC
who
issues
the
permits
forum,
given
us
authorization
to
re-establish
that
zone.
D
We
got
to
do
this
right
and
we've
had
to
reset
them
too
many
times
for
my
liking.
So
we
ordered
significant
Hardware
and
new
buoy
systems
to
try
and
put
something
out
there
that
doesn't
require
the
constant
attention
of
our
crews.
We
have
a
small
crew
that
does
this.
It's
really.
When
you're
dealing
with
500
pounds
of
anchor
systems
chains
buoys
surf
conditions,
it
you
have
to
have
everything
has
to
be
just
right
here:
it's
not
safe.
D
You
can
see
how
quickly
if
a
crew
is
trying
to
deploy
one
of
these
things
and
they
get
fouled
up
in
the
lines
I
mean
it's
it's
dangerous,
so
safety
is
my
first
priority,
but
I
do
foreign
coordinated
with
some
other
municipalities
have
some
conversations
about?
What's
working
and
what's
not
checked
around
to
see
who
had
displacement
significant
storm
through
the
end
and
it
I
think
we're
on
the
right
track
and
we've
ordered
upwards
of
forty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
equipment
to
reset
these
buoys,
maybe
even
more
than
that.
D
So
it's
going
to
take
some
time
as
well
to
resettlement
and
provide
them
with,
but
those
exist
they're
about
roughly
300
feet
from
Shore
and
they
provide
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer
zone
for
people
inside
doesn't
mean
you
can't
go
in
there
with
motorized
vessels.
It's
not
an.
D
You
know
that's
been
another
project
that
we
just
don't
want
to
have
to
keep
going
out
there.
If
we
can,
we
can
avoid
it
so
we'll
see
if
we
can
get
our
fingers
crossed
once
we
start
deploying
these
things.
The
team
most
of
the
materials
we're
waiting
on
a
few
more
things,
start
bringing
those
for
deployment
and
then
we've
got
to
have
a
weather
window
s
good
conditions
to
do
it
a
little
update
on.
D
So
you
guys
are
aware
of
the
the
wave
attenuators
that
we've
been
dealing
with
at
the
Harbor
Marina
for
quite
some
time,
continued
deterioration
and
failures.
We
have
contractors
and
Engineers
that
have
you
know:
we've
moved
the
project
along
to
a
point
where
the
fabrication
should
start
taking
place
in
the
next
couple
months
of
the
new
attenuators
and
once
that's
complete,
we'll
inspect
those
in
February
March
and
they
can
be
deployed
within
the
next
couple
months
and
installed.
Afterwards.
We
have
a
Contractor
on
board.
D
We
have
Engineers
on
board,
but
we
had
some
additional
barriers
of
more
attenuators
in
the
South
Basin
this
time
on
the
northwest
corner
related
to
some
storm
activity.
D
So
what
the
attenuators
are?
They
run
the
perimeter
of
that
Marina
and
they're
just
heavier
deeper
for
all
appearances.
They
look
like
a
floating
dock.
They
just
have
more
mass
to
them
right
to
absorb
the
sea
conditions
and
then
the
the
idea
being
that
they,
you
can
still
tie
to
them.
Some
of
the
larger
vessels
on
the
outside
tie
to
those,
but
it
it
reduces
the
wave
activity
within
the
marina,
so
the
critical
component
of
it.
D
These
things
went
in
in
2010
and
we're
having
barriers
to
the
degree
that
you
know,
I've
expressed
this
to
council.
I
have
engineering
on
board
now
because
of
the
progressive
nature
of
these.
This
is
going
to
be
a
long-term
project
and
to
and
we've
already
have
a
design
team
looking
at
a
multi-year
overarching
maintenance
plan
and
replacement
plan
and
I
think
you
know
we're
going
to
be
doing
this
for
quite
some
time.
There's
30
of
those
going
on
there
and
you
know,
I've
worked
with
finance
and
City
management.
D
So
the
new,
just
the
replacement
that
we're
undergoing
now
the
three
attenuators
on
the
Southwest
we've
specified
stainless
steel,
aluminum
and
things
that
are
more
resilient
and
the
corrosive
environment.
So
it's
it's
a
big
challenge.
It's
going
to
be
ongoing.
D
It's
going
to
be
an
ongoing
maintenance
challenge
for
us,
and
you
know
we
just
we
want
to
be
proactive
and
I
found
myself
coming
in,
and
you
know
being
reactive
to
try
and
get
these
things
sorted
out,
particularly
with
imagine
coming
online
in
July
know
that
Marina
I
think
is
going
to
get
a
lot
of
additional
use,
particularly
for
the
day
slips
and
the
transient
slips,
because
when
significant
events
are
happening,
people
are
going
to
want
to
bring
their
boat
down
there
to
see
it
and
I
think
it's
it's
going
to
get
much
busier
and
as
such,
we're
going
to
make
sure
it's.
D
Big
Challenge
I'll
be
talking
to
you
about
it
over
and
over
again,
you
know,
we
have
a
maintenance
master
plan
that
we're
going
to
have
completed
by
the
design,
team
and
engineering
team
so
that
we
can
kind
of
establish
a
budget
and
look
at
that
going
forward
problem
you
have
is
that
you
know
the
revenues
generated
Aren't
Enough.
When
you
talk
about
these
ridiculously
expensive
components,
you
know
to
address
150
feet
of
of
to
1400
feet
of
stock.
D
For
two
and
a
half
million
you
can
extrapolate
out
and
see
how
expensive
that
is,
and
you
know
our
revenues
down
there.
We
don't
sell
fuel
or
anything.
It's
just
stockage
and
they're
around
900
000
a
year
quickly
eat
that
up
with
these
huge
Capital
maintenance
projects.
So
it's
just
something
to
have
on
your
radar
and
be
aware
of
there's
really
no
great
solution
to
it.
I
think
what
imagine
comes
online.
We
will
be
raising
rates
down
there
a
little
bit.
You
know
consistently
with
what
the
market
will
bear,
but
still
it
really.
D
Yeah,
but
it's
you
know,
mixing
conditions
we
find
ourselves
dealing
with
and
there's
there's
you
got
to
take
it
head
on
and
you
gotta
address
the
problems,
and
you
know
with
the
understanding
that
that
is
a
key
component
of
Imagine.
In
my
view,
I
mean
I'm,
biased,
of
course,
because
of
my
department,
but
I
think
that's
going
to
be
activated
significantly
with
imagine.
G
D
They
didn't
design
it
that
way.
You
know
to
be
kind
of
compartmentalized.
So
what
makes
it
complicated
is
these?
You
know.
Piles
are
80
feet
long.
You
know
36
inch.
Diameter
I
mean
so
it's
big
heavy
component.
So
it's
not
an
easy
task
and
then,
when
they
reset
new
piles,
they've
got
to
be.
Mindful
of
you
know
the
distance
from
the
old
pile,
and
so
there's
not
some
destabilization.
So
it's
it's.
We
quickly
learned
that
it's
much
more
complicated.
It
looks
relatively
straightforward.
You
know
they're
floating
segments,
it's
the.
G
D
Them
I
got
it
it's
much
more
complicated
I
will
say
that
something
came
up.
Just
that
made
me
think
about
it.
So
environmental
advisory
had
concerns
over
that
increased
boating
activity
and
anchoring
for
Imagine
events
and
then
the
damage
that
might
do
to
Sea
grass.
Fortunately,
I
think
this.
This
is
really
addressed
by
the
fact
that
the
marina
takes
up
the
entire
Frontage
down
there,
because
you
can't
anchor
within
150
feet
of
a
marina,
so
it
it
it
may
be,
while
a
legitimate
concern.
D
I
think
that
the
fact
that
you
can't
do
that
will
preclude
that
activity
in
proximity
to
the
Merino,
which
in
effect
covers
that
that
Frontage,
so
we're
going
to
monitor
that
I'm
going
to
be
in
communication
with
the
CPD
on
on
kind
of
kind
of
see,
we
have
a
big
Fourth
of
July
event
and
boat
show
up,
and
everyone
wants
to
pitch
your
anchors.
However,
that'll
be
a
challenge
for
us
and
a
challenge
for
our
our
tenants
trying
to
get.
D
So
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
continue
to
monitor
that
and
I've
been
in
correspondence
with
the
city
management
over
that
that's
just
a
little
little
something
that
came
up
recently
in
the
last
couple
days.
D
A
C
Let's
see
all
issues
that
will
be
addressed,
I
had
a
question
as
far
as
how
often
do
are
these
Seawall
issues
inspected.
D
But
in
terms
of
a
city,
sea
wall,
inspection,
I,
don't
know
the
timetable,
and
we
could
certainly
take
a
look
at
that
and
see.
It
seems.
E
When
we've
started
talking
about
this
years
ago,
Seawall
technically
hadn't
gotten
to
the
end
of
its
projected
life,
which
I
believe
was
50
years
because
of
delay
other
delays
in
the
project,
ability
to
rebuild
that
the
time's
gotten
closer
and
closer
to
saying
now
we
can
replace
it
because
it's
reached
its
useful
life
when
we
I
think
when
they
started
the
project.
There
was
five
years
between
when
they
planned
on
building
the
marina
and
when
the
useful
life
of
it
and
there's
certain
environmental
and
other
rules.
E
That
say
you
can't
replace
your
sea
wall
every
10
years
or
20
years,
it's
50
years
and
I
think
now
we're
closer
to
that
that
we
can
even
incorporate
it
because
it
didn't
seem
like
it
was.
Even
they
talked
about
it.
They
said
and
we'll
do
it
this
way,
because
then,
in
six
years,
we're
going
to
have
to
replace
sea
Waller
in
the
next
10
years,
so
now
they're
getting
closer
and
closer
when
this
will
be
done
and
when
this
will
be
due.
So
why
not
cut
the
cost
and
do
it
all
at
once?
Am.
H
Up
it
was
going
to
be
about
10
years
after
the
project
they're
going
to
come
back
with
the
wall.
This
original
scope
before
this
new
open
new
sea
wall
was
they
were
going
to
go
in
there
and
pick
some
topics
do.
H
E
C
D
Yeah,
it's
not
already
fixed
it's
about
1300
feet,
maybe
more
of
total
sea
wall
along
that
that
perimeter-
and
it
is,
we
did
knowing
that
we
would
have
to
do
it
and
now
probably
a
five-year
window.
It
just
didn't
make
sense
because
of
the
disruptive
nature
of
dealing
with
that,
and
we
have
so
much
commercial
activity
and
recreational
activity
out
of
that
Marina.
The
thought
of
doing
this
all
over
again
in
a
short
window
Because
by
the
time
we
get
this
built
now
we're
we're.
D
Looking
at
three
years,
we've
got
to
start
design,
it
just
didn't
make
sense.
It
made
much
more
sense
and
and
much
more
efficient
and
cost
effective
to
do
it
all
now,
knowing
what
we
know
and
there's
there's
segments
of
it
that
they
couldn't
inspect,
because
it
was
covered
up
with
so
many
dark
structures
and
stuff.
D
D
So
so
it's
it's
it's
pretty
old,
but
as
far
as
inspections
go
engineering
does
that
with
bridges
and
sea
walls
right
now,
there's
a
pedestrian
bridge
at
the
the
northeast
corner
of
the
marina
they're.
Doing
significant
sea
wall
repairs
underneath
there
now
because
of
an
inspection
report,
so
they
do
have
a
timetable.
Sport
I
just
don't
know
what
it
is.
G
Okay,
so
one
thing
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment
is
that
you
know
regarding
the
no
wake
zones
the
jet
skiers
lately
I
mean
it's
just
been
insane.
The
number
of
jet
skis
that
are
coming
doing
40
miles
an
hour
underneath
that
bridge
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate
how
important
it
is
that
yeah.
D
G
Yeah
yeah
I
got
you
okay,
so
another
thing:
that's
that's,
and
it's
not
just
in
Stevenson
Creek
as
other
places
too,
but
that's
where
I
notice
it
because
I
I
kayak
it
and
canoe
it
and
things.
There's
a
significant
number
of
docks
that
are
deteriorating
and
falling
into
the
water
and
I've
complained
to
code
enforcement
and
never
even
hear
back
from
them,
and
this
stuff
starts
floating
around
I
mean
we're
talking
wood,
so
it
ends
up
floating
around
and
I
personally
hit.
G
You
know
a
large
two
by
six
with
my
boat
one
time
and
had
to
drag
it.
You
know,
drag
it
and
home
and
put
it
to
the
garbage.
It
was.
You
know,
eight
foot
long
covered
in
Barnacles
and
probably
weighed
100
pounds
because
it
was
so
soaked
up
with
water,
and
this
stuff
is
just
deteriorating
and
floating
away
and
nobody's
fixing
it
and
I
would
think
that
the
property
owners
should
be
able
to
be
held
accountable
for
either
fixing
it
or
take
it
out
so
I
mean
and.
D
We're
not
regulatory,
obviously
terms
of
yeah.
That's
not
what
my
department
does.
That
would
fall
under
code
was
it
was
the
thing
originally
permitted
I'm,
assuming
that
if
it's
in
a
deteriorated
condition,
they
may
address
that.
But
I
can't
speak
for
code.
Let.
A
Me
comment
on
this
because
this
is
a
point
that
personally
strikes
home
and
I'm
wondering
it
may
not
be
a
subject
for
this
board,
but
I'm
just
wondering
you
know.
What
do
you
do
about
something
like
this?
So
on
my
own
doc,
I've
noticed
I've
got
a
a
big
beam.
I,
don't
know
what
it
is
two
by
ten
or
something
another,
it's
eight
or
ten
feet
long!
It's
a
big
piece.
It
was
there
years
and
years
and
years
ago,
when
the
dock
was
originally
built.
Since
then,
I've
had
something
built
over
it.
A
So
this
board
is
Meaningful
meaningless
now,
but
it's
come
attached
on
one
side
and
it's
kind
of
floating
on
the
other
side,
it's
way
too
heavy
for
me
to
just
get
in
there
and
get
it
out.
You
can't
get
a
commercial
guy
right
now
they
won't
come
and
do
a
job
like
that.
That
takes
45
minutes
that
you
know
they
want
to
come
and
build
an
entire
Docker.
They
won't
do
anything.
A
D
About
it,
yeah
I
mean
we.
We
consistently.
Our
crews
will
pick
up
this
stuff
we
find
floating.
You
know
we,
we
had
looked
like
I,
think
about
a
five
by
eight
foot,
section
of
someone's
Dock
at
the
on
the
boat
ramp
at
the
rec
center
on
the
beach
after
one
of
the
storms.
So
it's
it's
it's
an
ongoing
problem
and
to
me
it's
no
different,
unfortunately,
than
these
derelict
vessels
everywhere
and
I
think
we're
all
seeing
a
proliferation
of
those
things.
G
Yeah
and
you
know,
I
can
see
storm
damage,
it
happens
and
and
it'll
take
out
stuff
that
wasn't
quite
there,
but
we've
literally
been
two
three
years
and
it's
you
know,
there's
in
one
one
case,
there's
a
picnic
like
one
of
those
concrete
tables.
That's
you
know
it's
fallen
in
with
it
and,
of
course,
that's
not
good
for
the
water
to
have
all
this
garbage
and
things
like
that
in
there,
and
you
know
it
just
since.
A
D
G
Yeah,
so,
okay,
so
that
was
one
thing
two
you
know:
they're
building
those
condos
they're,
just
at
the
end
of
where
Stevenson
Creek
meets
Edgewater
and
they're
advertising
that
they're,
putting
in
a
marina
my
wife
and
I
was
we
were
down
in
the
model
Center
and
the
girls
right.
There
said
to
us
directly
that
they're
that
they're,
putting
the
marina
and
they've
got
it
depicted
in
their
website.
They've
got
it
depicted
in
their
model.
G
If
you
go
into
their
their
model
home
center
and
I've
spoken
to
several
people
at
the
county
that
do
the
permitting
I,
don't
remember
their
names,
I
think
one
is
Dave,
he's
the
main
guy,
because
I've
dealt
with
him
with
my
own
stuff.
G
He
said
they've
already,
they've
already
told
them.
There's
no
way,
there's
going
to
be
a
marina
there,
because
because
they
won't
let
them
permit
so,
but
there
are
buoys
somebody
put
in
what
looks
to
be
Crab
Pot
buoys,
but
they're,
not
Crab,
Pot,
buoys
and
they're
in
a
rectangular
pattern.
There
I
don't
know
what
those
are
I
can't
find
out
from
anybody,
they're
kind
of
in
the
channel,
not
sure
they
should
even
be
there,
and
but
you
can't
get
any
answers
from
anybody
so
and.
D
It's
come
up
before
and
I've
had
this
conversation
with
a
couple
people
there
is
no
permit
for
a
marina
there,
I've
not
seen
anything
related
to
a
Department
of
Marina
they're
selling
boat
slips
that
they
don't
have
and
you're
aware
of
that
they're
selling
books.
D
Been
told
that
I
I
haven't
verified
it
myself,
I
help
I've
seen
the
the
renderings
on
the
website,
but
ultimately
I
am
part
of
that
process.
When
docs
get
permitted
as
then
I
review
it
as
the
Harbor
Master
I've
not
seen
anything,
it's
not
in
the
queue
I
I,
don't
know.
I've
checked
with
the
county.
I've
checked
a
couple
different
angles
and
there
is
no
Marina
and
the
depiction
show
it
actually
in
the
back.
D
The
the
depictions
of
the
marina
show
it
and-
and
you
know,
facing
West
in
the
actual
Bay.
G
H
G
G
Yeah
yeah,
that's
a
civil
thing,
I
get
it
yeah.
So
then
the
last
thing,
and
so
there's
people
fishing
from
these
Bridges
and
I've
I've,
gotten
fishing
line
in
my
own
boat.
G
And
you
know
you
can't
see
it
and
you
tell
the
guy
hey
I'm
coming
through
here
and
they
don't
care
and
they're
they're
not
supposed
to
be
fishing
from
these
Bridges,
but
nobody
seems
to
want
to
do
about
it
and
and
it's
a
again
it's
a
hazard
to
people
kayaking,
because
you
can't
see
these
lines,
you
can
get
yourself
hooked
and
I've
gotten
my
boat
hooked
before
and
so
you
know,
I,
don't
know!
If
there's
anything
you
can
do
from
this
angle
or
we
can
do
from
this
angle.
G
G
G
It
seems,
like
you
know,
yeah
just
let
them
do
it
kind
of
thing,
so,
especially
the
one
that
goes
across.
That's
basically
where
Fort
Harrison
heads
to
Dunedin
I
mean
you
know,
there's
people
throwing
cast
Nets
off
there
and
they
don't
see
you
coming
and
you
I
beat
my
horn
and
you
know
it's
it's
going
to
cause
a
problem
at
some
point
so
anyway,
just
wanted
to
put.
A
B
Oh
I
just
thought
of
something
about
Stevenson's
Creek
I
live
on
Betty
lane
side.
Is
there
anything
that
we
could
do
to
kind
of
like
encourage
a
cleanup
or
some
kind
of
a
quality
control
in
that
area,
because,
as
expressed
before
there's
like
tree
branches
falling
in
there
there's
lows
trash
in
there.
D
So
the
city's
you
know
done
some
significant
cleanups
in
there,
particularly
around
some
of
the
transient
camps
that
were
built
up
in
the
mangrove.
So
if
those
come
to
the
city's
attention,
we
have
a
team
that
goes
out
and
does
that
cleanup
and
they
did
some
significant
Cleanup
in
there
within
the
last
year
or
so
we're
targeting
tons
of
trash
and
and
even
our
crews.
When
we
can
get
to
things,
we
got
a
report
of
some
tires
in
there.
If
we
can
get
to
them,
we
can
pull
them.
D
The
challenge
is-
and
this
goes
back
to
my
canine
days-
I
track
somebody
on
several
occasions
through
that
thing
and
if
you
get
in
that
mud
you'll
go
up
to
your
waist,
so
it's
really
an
accessibility
problem
to
get
in
there
and
try
and
extricate
some
of
that
stuff.
It's
not
a
Waterway.
We
would
maintain.
You
know
the
upper
reaches
of
that
Creek
is
very
narrow
and
we
just
don't
have
the
access.
So
you
know
we
wouldn't
be
cutting
Fallen
branches
out
or
anything
like
that,
because
it's
full
intensive
purposes.
G
And
just
so,
you
know
they
do,
there's
there's
a
group
of
people
that
do
cleanups
there.
In
fact,
the
girl
that
that
coordinates.
Those
was
at
the
last
meeting
with
with
another
guy
that
I
know
him.
So
he's
went
to
high
school
with
me,
and
so
she
does
cleanups
a
couple
times
a
year,
but
they
don't
go
all
the
way
up.
They.
They
focus
on
that.
G
Just
that
lower
Basin
and
I've
told
them
several
times
that
it
would
be
helpful
if
they
can
get
their
groups
to
come
up
to
the
next
stages,
because
that's
where
the
garbage
is
it
just
floats
back
and
forth
some
of
it's
20
years
old.
We
get
stuff
into
our
into
our
yard.
That's
literally
been
there
for
20
years.
You
can
tell,
but
it
just
it
goes
up
and
down
with
the
tides
and
things
like
that.
So
there's
still
a
lot
of
garbage
there.
So.