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A
City
manager,
Isaiah
Hughley,
mops,
Barnes,
District,
1,
Glen,
Davis
district
2,
Bruce
district
3,
Evelyn
turnip,
you
mayor
pro-tem
and
district
4
Mike
Baker
district
5,
Kari
Allen
district
6,
Mimi
Woodson
district
7,
Walter
Garrett
district
8,
Judy,
Thomas,
post
9,
at-large
councillor
skip
Henderson
post
10,
at-large,
counselor,
Tony,
Washington,
Clerk
of
Council
and
City
Attorney
Clifton
babe,
Columbus
Georgia.
This
is
your
City
Council.
B
The
Columbus
City
Council-
this
is
our
last
business
meeting
of
the
year.
So
let
me
go
ahead
and
say:
merry
christmas
and
happy
holidays
and
Happy
New
Year
we'll
be
seeing
you
after
the
new
year
again,
of
course,
but
we
hope
you
have
a
wonderful,
warm
and
safe
holiday
season.
We
have
a
ton
of
business
today.
B
We've
got
a
good
crowd
here,
so
we're
going
to
get
down
to
it
and
and
and
let
you
be
heard,
but
we
want
to
get
started
as
we
always
do
with
a
little
inspiration
and
we're
very
fortunate
today
to
have
Pastor
Chuck
Griffith
with
Trinity
Assembly
of
God
Church,
and
we
want
to
call
you
forward
to
the
podium
to
present
us
with
the
invocation
consistent
with
your
faith
tradition
good
morning
good
morning.
Thank
you.
C
Mary,
let
us
pray
father.
We
pause
now
at
the
beginning
of
this
very
important
meeting
to
look
to
you.
We
thank
you
Lord
for
these
leaders
that
are
among
us,
the
mayor,
the
council,
persons
Lord.
We
thank
you
that
they
are
ministers
in
the
Civic
Arena
and
you've
called
us
to
lift
them
up
in
prayer,
and
so
we
do
that
we
pray
for
those
in
authority
over
us.
We
pray
father
for
you
to
give
them
direction
and
counsel
and
wisdom
as
they
make
decisions
today
and
far.
We
ask
Lord
that
they'd
find
strength
and
guidance.
C
We
thank
you
for
them.
The
Lord,
their
duties
are,
and
responsibilities
are
great
and
as
they
do
those
we
know
that
we
will
and
in
return
as
citizens
of
this
city,
live
quiet,
peaceful,
prosperous
lives
in
Lord.
That's
what
they
want
for
us.
So
we
pray,
we
pray
your
blessing
upon
them,
your
help
for
them.
We
pray
for
our
city
Lord.
We
thank
you
for
the
surrounding
area
and
the
fluence
influence
that
Columbus
has
and
Lord.
We
pray
that
you
can
continue
to
bless
this
city
and
Lord.
C
May
we
in
this
time
of
year,
pause
to
remember
that
as
good
as
our
efforts
are
as
much
as
we
want
to
make
our
city
our
region
better,
that
there's
no
greater
help
than
what
you
provide
for
this
season.
We're
reminded
that
the
best
of
heaven
came
to
earth
run
to
us.
A
child
is
born,
a
son
is
given
the
government
shall
be
upon
his
shoulders,
wonderful
counselor,
mighty
God
and
the
Prince
of
Peace.
C
Today
we
look
to
you
and,
as
the
weight
of
the
city
government
is
upon
the
shoulders
of
these
leaders,
we
ask
that
you.
They
would
help
that
you
would
help
them
and
they
would
sense
that
your
shoulders
are
broader
than
theirs
and
that
the
weight
of
the
government
can
be
shared
with
you,
Lord
that
they
would
know,
there's
a
mighty
God
who
will
help
us
in
every
situation
that
does
bring
the
best
of
heaven
to
earth
a
wonderful
counselor
who
will
give
direction
and
one
who
ultimately
will
and
can
bring
us
peace.
B
Pastor
Griffith,
thank
you.
So
very
much
for
that.
You
know,
as
an
elected
official
I
know,
I
can
say
for
everyone
up
here.
We
have
such
a
great
faith-based
community
in
Columbus
and
there's
nothing
more
inspiring
and
fortifying
that
when
members
of
the
faith
community
come
up
and
say
they're
praying
for
us.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
to
all
their
listening
that
do
likewise.
We
also
have
a
special
group
of
visitors
this
morning
from
Diamond
elementary
school.
B
D
D
D
E
B
B
B
Well
again,
thank
you
for
coming
and
helping
us
get
things
started
this
morning.
We
hope
you'll
come
back
again
soon
and
help
us
out,
and
thank
you
to
all
the
teachers
and
parents
for
raising
our
next
generation
of
leaders
appreciate
what
you
all
do.
Alright,
we'll
go
ahead
and
jump
into
the
agenda.
We've
got
some
folks
that
move
things
around
this
morning,
so
they
could
be
here
bright
and
early,
and
we
certainly
appreciate
that
you
all
may
recall
about
gosh.
B
11
months
ago
now,
after
the
beginning
of
this
year,
in
January,
I
appointed
a
commission
to
look
at
our
existing
government
building
to
see
if
we
needed
to
make
some
changes.
As
you
all
know,
it
was
built
in
1971
we're
having
an
awful
lot
of
system
issues
with
its
system
failures,
spending
a
whole
lot
of
money
to
repair
some
things
in
a
building
that,
as
I
said,
is
having
multiple
system
failures
and
otherwise
has
some
things
that
would
not
pass
code
today.
B
So
we
called
upon
a
pretty
large
group
of
about
30
of
our
community
citizens
to
come
forward.
Those
who
use
the
building
regularly.
Those
who
watch
others
use
it
regularly,
like
the
judges
and
the
clerks
of
the
court
who
who
tend
to
the
jurors
that
come
down
to
do
their
civic
duty
on
a
daily
basis,
certainly
the
Sheriff's
Office
and
many
many
others
who
tend
to
the
citizens
who
come
down
to
use
the
government
Center,
and
we
also
called
upon
some
citizens
to
come
forward
and
other
stakeholders.
That
would
have
a
particular
interest.
B
We
have
been
so
fortunate
to
have
a
good
coverage
from
the
media,
so
we
want
to
thank
you
all,
both
the
television
media
and
the
print
media
that
are
here
today.
The
report
is
going
to
be
presented
to
Council.
We
have
a
couple
of
people
who
are
going
to
come
up
and
say
a
few
words,
but
I
do
want
to
let
you
all
know
that
our
watching
on
TV
or
our
live
streaming
our
meeting
today
that
it
has
just
been
uploaded
to
on
the
CCG
website.
B
So
if
you'd
like
to
see
the
report,
it's
there
on
the
home
page
of
the
website
and
also
the
very
voluminous
appendix
which
contains
all
of
the
meetings
Genda
the
minutes
and
also
the
various
reports
and-
and
it's
all
topped
off
with
the
introductory
letter
from
me
to
the
city
councilors,
and
so
with
that
we
will
go
ahead
and
I
will
welcome.
First
judge
Gill
McBride,
who
is
the
chief
judge
of
the
Chattahoochee
district
and
judge.
Thank
you
so
very
much
for
making
yourself
available
this
morning.
Thank.
G
B
B
G
Right
I
would
like
to
thank
the
mayor
for
bringing
this
issue
to
the
forefront.
Certainly
the
Mayor
Pro
Tem
for
her
service
on
the
Commission
and
the
city
manager
for
the
leadership
that
he
has
brought
to
this
process
as
well.
I'm
told
that
I
have
two
minutes,
so
I
will
talk
in
a
hurry
and
if
I
go
a
little
bit
over,
please
indulge
me
because
it's
kind
of
hard
for
a
lawyer
to
say
good
morning
in,
as
you
know,
I
will
tell
you.
G
Also
I
would
like
to
thank
judges,
Richardson
and
senior
judge
follow-up
for
their
service
on
the
Commission
judge.
Richardson,
of
course,
is
one
of
our
two
state
court.
Judges
judge
follow
well
as
a
senior
judge.
He
also
is
the
only
member
of
our
Commission
who
worked
in
the
old
courthouse
as
well
as
the
new
courthouse,
so
he
brought
a
very
unique
perspective
to
our
work
we
drew
heavily
from
that
perspective.
G
We
also
talked
with
the
original
architect
of
the
building
ed
Neill,
about
what
was
done,
why
it
was
done
why
certain
choices
were
made
by
other
choices
were
rejected
and
the
original
team
that
built
the
current
courthouse
went
a
certain
direction.
I
say
that
to
let
you
know
that
this
was
an
exhaustive
process.
It
was
one
of
the
most
thorough
processes
of
which
I
have
personally
been
apart
and
early
on.
G
G
So
we
were
informed
by
that.
I
would
also
point
out
that
none
of
the
options
are
inexpensive.
I
will
say
also
that
all
our
is
cheap,
probably
as
they
ever
will
be,
given
the
way
building
cost
in
to
inflate
and
finally,
I
would
add
that
all
were
really
informed
by
a
certain
set
of
realities
that
are
not
always
pleasant
to
face.
But
if
you
look
in
the
report,
there's
no
chapter
that
says
realities,
but
there
is
a
thread
on
a
current
of
reality.
G
That
runs
all
the
way
through
the
report,
and
it
there
are
several
factors
that
weighed
very
heavily
in
the
decision
that
was
ultimately
recommended.
The
committee
voted
across
the
three
options.
One
option
was
chosen:
that
is
the
committee's
consensus
position
at
this
time.
That
was
the
methodology
that
we
agreed
on,
but
one
of
those
realities
is
safety.
G
I
will
tell
you
that
there
is
simply
no
safe
way
to
evacuate
a
jury
from
a
single
jury
room
in
that
building
and
that's
a
reality
that
many
of
us
would
rather
not
talk
about.
It's
not
a
comfortable
reality,
especially
if
you're
serving
on
a
jury,
but
all
of
the
jury
rooms
are
above
well
above
in
some
instances
a
hundred
feet
above
the
highest
piece
of
rescue
equipment
that
the
fire
department
has.
G
There
are
also
no
fire
escapes
in
the
building
and
finally,
I
would
point
out
to
you
that
there
are
no
sprinkler
systems
anywhere
north
of
the
ground
floor,
which
would
include
all
of
the
courtrooms,
the
clerk's
office,
the
Municipal
Court
magistrate
court
and
all
of
the
Superior
Court
space
as
well
in
state
court
space.
So
we
are
dealing
with
with
the
reality
that
tragedies
do
happen.
The
building,
although
it
is
of
concrete
construction,
it
is
riddled
with
wire
that
has
been
patched
together
over
the
years.
G
All
you
have
to
do
is
look
in
the
ceiling,
tiles
which
we
have
occasion
to
see.
Quite
we
see
behind
them
quite
frequently
because
of
the
work
that's
done
in
the
building
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
the
building
is
is
something
that
simply
requires
attention
and
I
will
tell
you
that
we
appreciate
your
consideration.
We
know
that
our
role
is
advisory.
We
are
keenly
aware
of
that.
G
We're
respectful
of
the
role
that
City
Council
has
to
play
I
would
say
that
none
of
us
really
envy
you
your
role
at
this
point,
but
we
are
all
available
to
assist
and
to
discuss
with
you
privately
as
well
as
in
further
meetings
of
this
type.
Should
there
be
questions
or
should
should
we
be
able
to
help
you?
So
thank
you
very
much.
Merry
Christmas
well,.
B
Thank
you
judge
and
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
jump
into
the
meat
of
the
report
and
some
of
the
realities
and
findings.
As
a
judge,
MacBride
alluded
to
we're
going
to
ask
John
Hutchinson
to
speak
about
who's,
the
director
of
our
building
and
codes
department
to
speak
about
some
of
the
safety
concerns
in
the
building
John
good
morning
morning.
H
Quickly,
we
did
a
part
of
this
Commission.
We
also
did
a
space
assessment,
so
we
went
through
every
department
area.
That's
in
the
government
center
complex,
which
are
an
additional
and
judicial.
We
spoke
to
them
to
kind
of
get
their
concerns
their
needs.
You
know,
obviously,
if
you
tell
everyone,
they
need
more
space,
they're
gonna
say
they
need
more
space,
but
ideally
what
we
did
is
try
to
find
out
the
the
critical
things
we
perform
site
visits.
We
met
with
every
every
section,
every
part
of
anybody
that
was
in
the
government
center.
H
We
did
a
square
footage.
We
projected
that
would
be
needed
for
the
next
five
to
seven
years
and
then
we
did
an
net
square
footage
that
we
weren't
in
and
we
use
the
multiplier
generically
for
the
circulation
and
mechanical
needs,
and
that's
what
led
to
the
architects
having
a
base
number
basing
off
of
kind
of
mass
modeling
of
what
we
wanted
to
do
all
right.
H
The
findings
of
the
existing
gross
square,
footage
of
the
government,
centers
277
thousand
six
hundred
and
thirty-two
square
feet
projected
just
space
needed
for
a
judicial
growing
to
the
amount
of
courtrooms
that
would
be
needed.
It
already
would
be.
260
thousand
plus
the
additional
of
the
75,000
projected
for
non
judicial
gives
us
a
gross
square
footage
needed
in
the
next
five
to
seven
years
to
be
about
three
hundred
and
thirty
five
thousand
five
hundred
and
four
square
feet.
H
One
of
the
other
things
we
dealt
with
is
maintenance
late.
My
part
of
my
old
job
in
engineering
was
a
lot
of
project
management
on
renovations
and
things
we
did
in
the
government
center.
Luckily,
with
Pat,
we've
worked
diligently
now
to
require
an
architect
seal
to
verify
any
new
renovations.
Any
changes
I
know
I
had
a
fight
with
judge
Richardson
and
we
just
wanted
to
add
a
door
and
his
property.
H
You
know
in
his
area
when
he
was
a
solicitor
about
where
we
were
gonna
put
that
door,
but
we
just
wanted
to
verify
that
we
weren't
making
a
situation
that
was
already
kind
of
murky
any
worse.
So
these
are
the
three
main
maintenance
concerns
we
have.
There's
it's
very
difficult
to
access.
Mechanical
areas
of
the
building
and
I'll
show
those
in
pictures
a
lack
of
redundancy.
H
We
had
a
plumbing
issue
on
the
second
floor
and
because
we
didn't
have
cut-offs
on
each
floor,
we
literally
had
to
drain
the
water
out
of
the
whole
building
just
to
work
on
one
bathroom
on
the
second
fluor.
So
a
lot
of
times.
You
know
we
have
to
specifically
do
those
on
the
weekends.
So
if
it
would
have
happened
on
Monday,
we
would
have
had
to
wait.
H
We
waited
till
Friday
till
we
could
do
something
about
it,
because
if
we
would
have
drained
the
water,
then
any
floors
would
not
have
had
access
to
water
for
use.
Bathrooms
water,
fountains
things
like
that,
and
many
mechanical
systems
just
have
reached
the
end
of
their
usable
life
residents
are
just
pictures.
So,
on
the
sixth
floor,
that's
a
hatch
in
one
of
the
on
one
of
the
stairwells
and
to
the
right
there,
that's
one
of
the
desk
ducts
for
water
heating.
There
all
that,
and
you
see
that
kind
of
2x3
hatch
there.
H
That's
our
access
so
a
lot
of
times.
If
we're
having
issues
to
try
to
get
to
a
certain
floor,
it
is,
it
is
a
concern
that
is
our
old
generator
that
is
sitting
down
in
the
basement,
but
it
has
been
encased
in
concrete.
So
therefore,
if
we
ever
needed
to
get
it
out,
which
we
weren't
able
to,
we
had
to
use
the
backup
generator
which
is
outside
on
First
Avenue,
and
that
was
just
a
relic.
Unfortunately,
it's
just
sitting
there.
This
is
our
boiler.
H
So
now
we
have,
we
have
the
generator
down
in
the
ground
floor,
and
then
we
have
our
boiler,
which
is
original
to
the
building
in
the
penthouse.
This
picture
on
the
right
is
the
hatch
that
takes
you
down
to
the
elevator
shaft.
There's
no
physical
stairway,
there's
no
freight
elevators,
no
way
to
get
that
large
piece
of
equipment
out
of
the
penthouse.
So
luckily,
we've
been
able
to
continue
to
maintain
it,
but
physically
there's
no
way
to
get
that
boiler
out
or
without
a
crane.
It
would
have
to
be
able
to
be
something
very
expensive.
H
One
of
the
issues
we
have
talked
to
you
all
about
was
about
the
the
hot
water
piping
issues
that
we've
dealt
with
in
the
building
to
this
day.
We're
actually
on
the
sixth
floor
now,
and
we
would
have
touched
every
floor
in
the
building
to
get
that
that
issue
remedy
we
took
about
200
out.
She
can
see
to
the
right.
That's
the
new
brass
fittings
and
things
like
that.
We've
got
with
additional
cut-offs
where
I
mentioned
about
redundancy.
If
we
ever
have
any
future
problems,
we'll
be
able
to
take
care
of
some
of
those
things.
H
The
code-compliant
site,
like
I,
said
the
building
was
built
in
the
70s
and
so
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
were
required
now
in
a
new
building.
What
high-rise
construction
is
not
there,
so
the
stairwells,
typically
exit
you
know
you
stairwells,
would
never
encode.
Now
we
allow
them
to
be
that
close
to
each
other
and
to
be
into
the
center
of
the
building.
H
So,
therefore,
if
you
have
an
emergency
you're
coming
to
the
center
of
the
building
but
say
if
the
emergency
was
right
there
at
the
elevator,
then
you've
knocked
out
both
of
those
stairwells,
possibly
from
being
used,
because
that's
where
the
emergency
thats,
where
the
issue
is
so
we
wouldn't
design
it
that
way.
Now,
but
that's
that's
the
the
reality
we're
dealing
with
right
now.
Also
ATA
accessibility
didn't
come
into
effect
until
91.
H
So
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
would
like
to
do
in
these
buildings,
you
go
into
the
upper
floors,
they're
grandfathered
in
because
they
were
predating
the
code,
so
we
don't
make
it
mandatory
unless
it's
more
than
50%
of
the
cost
of
the
renovation.
But
you
can
see
on
the
restrooms
there.
We
don't
have
a
five
foot
turn
radius.
So
therefore
anybody
with
handicap
accessible
in
a
wheelchair,
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
use
any
of
the
restaurants
above
the
ground
floor.
H
The
ground
floor
does
have
88,
but
the
rest
of
them
do
no
sprinklers,
which
was
mentioned
before
we
do
have
sprinkles
on
the
ground
floor,
the
basement
and
the
parking
garage,
and
that's
it.
You
may
see
some
others
that
look
like
those,
but
those
are
just
heat
sensors.
We
have
some
in
some
of
the
upper
floors,
but
they
literally
they're
just
heat
sensors,
so
they
don't
suppress
any
fire.
They
just
notify
the
alarm
system
that
there
is
a
fire
and
smoke
proof
enclosures.
H
If
you've
ever
been
down
those
stairwells,
you
know
how
narrow
they
are
height
out.
There
are
typically
what
you
want
to
do
is
have
somebody
you
want
to
be
able
to
preserve
someone
in
place
so
say:
if
somebody
does
have
a
disability,
they
can't
make
it
down
six
flight
of
stairs.
Typically
now
in
stairwells,
you
create
extra
space
to
allow
those
people
to
get
to
the
side
and
then
they're
protected
in
the
in
the
stairwell.
Another
issue
is,
we
don't
have
sweepers
or
any
way
to
contain
the
smoke.
H
B
I
You
for
allowing
me
to
serve
on
the
security
side
of
it,
I'm,
basically
going
to
sum
it
up.
I'm
gonna
try
to
stick
to
my
two
minutes
and
sum
it
up
that
the
original
facility
was
built
was
built
with
just
a
few
courtrooms
in
it,
and
it
was
designed
as
a
multi-purpose
facility
prior
to
911,
with
no
security
concerns
for
that
facility
built
in
it
was
designed
to
be
an
open
public
building
and
that's
what
we
battled
on
a
daily
basis.
I
Exterior
concerns
at
the
building
on
the
east
and
west
side
of
the
building.
You
have
parking
right
up
against
the
building
parking
stand
off
is
a
great
issue.
Our
entrances
and
exits
are
wore
out
the
pressure
within
the
building
oftentimes
forces
doors
to
stay
open.
We
have
people
who
constantly
monitor
that
the
landscape
and
design
around
the
building
does
not
offer
any
protection
for
the
building.
We
have
a
major
natural
gas
main
right
up
under
the
facility,
which
is
a
huge
concern.
Security
concern
for
us.
The
sprinkler
system
has
been
talked
about.
I
I
won't
continue
to
go
above,
go
went
into
that
fire
alarms,
cameras,
door
alarms
are
all
inadequate
now
and
that's
mainly
due
to
when
the
building
was
first
constructed.
It
was
designed
to
be
an
open
floor
plan
and
the
need
for
office
space
and
those
type
things
throughout
that
facility
has
closed
a
lot
of
that
building
off,
and
there
are
certain
areas
within
the
facility
that
you
can't
hear
a
fire
alarm.
It's
built
within
our
security
plan
to
notify
certain
offices
when
the
fire
alarm
goes
off.
I
Stairwells
will
continue
to
talk
about
the
stairwells
there.
We
do
have
courts
throughout
that
building.
As
you
see,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
handicapped
people
that
come
within
that
building,
it
is
impossible
for
us
to
get
someone
in
a
wheelchair
down.
Those
stairwells
inmate
cells
are
inadequate
if
you've
noticed
a
lot
of
the
trials
that
are
occurring
in
the
superior
courts.
Now
have
multi
defendants
in
we
have
to
keep
those
defendants
separated,
and
currently
we
have
two
male
cells
and
two
female
cells
on
4th
floor.
I
If
we
have
four
co-defendants
and
like
we
had
in
a
recent
trial,
we
have
three
coming
up
in
January
for
trial.
We
basically
have
to
set
on
one
of
those
in
an
office.
We
do
not
have
adequate
cell
space
anymore
on
four
full.
We
have
poor
lighting
throughout
that
facility,
mainly
in
the
parking
garages.
Any
of
you
that's
visited
you,
you
know
about
that
situation.
I
I
Parking
for
judges,
elected
officials
is
it's
very
hard
to
secure
that
parking
garage.
There's
many
entrances
to
it.
We
had
that's
a
manpower
issue
that
we
deal
with
on
a
daily
basis,
but
more
of
our
concern
is:
is
that
we're
not
able
to
house
our
juries
in
a
secured
parking
area?
We
have
to
escort
those
juries
in
and
out
of
the
buildings
to
try
to
prevent
jury
tampering
in
a
lot
of
these
trials.
Most
courthouses
that
I
visited
have
secured
parking
for
their
jurors
inmate
drop-off.
I
We
frequently
bring
thirty
forty
to
sixty
prisoners
over
to
that
facility
each
day
and
it's
open
on
both
ends.
There
is
public
access
right
there,
where
we
have
to
drop
them
all
so
a
lot
of
times.
We
have
the
public
intermingling
with
those
people
that
we're
bringing
over
with
the
various
charges
that
would
bring
them
over
on
that's
a
few
of
the
issues.
If
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
take
the
tour
yet
I'm
open.
B
There
will
be
some
questions
and-
and
you
won't
know,
as
obviously
I've
limited
everybody
to
two
minutes.
The
report
is
23
pages
long
and
it
itemizes
some
of
these
things
and
again
I
encourage
you
to
go
through
and
then,
if
one
of
them
catches
your
interest,
there
are
the
appendix
which
is
over
here
in
three
volumes
is
online
as
well,
and
you
can
go
and
actually
see
what
it
is.
B
But
let
me
just
say
that
there
is
indisputably
a
finding
here
that
there
is
that
this
building
is
not
conducive
to
safe
emergency
egress
period,
and
we
see
that
when
we
have
our
planned
fire
drills.
Certainly
people
know
how
to
evacuate.
We
do
go
through
that
and
led
by
major
Massey
and
others,
but
there
are
issues
simply
because
those
stairs
are
too
narrow,
they're
too
steep.
They
come
to
the
center
of
the
building.
They
let
everyone
out
who's
fleeing.
Let's
say
from
this
hypothetical
fire
or
smoke
into
what
is
a
below
ground
floor.
B
Our
ground
floor
is
actually
below
ground
level.
So
the
more
you
know,
the
more
concerns
you'll
be
I
did
want
to
say
a
few
that
we
missed
as
we
went
along
just
because
of
times
sake,
but
they're
listed
both
in
my
letter
and,
of
course,
there's
others
in
the
report
itself.
But
we
have
such
things
as
you
know:
criminal
cases,
child
custody
cases,
divorce
cases,
drug
court,
juvenile
mental
health
court
and
the
way
this
these
courtrooms
are
set
out
and
the
hearing
rooms
are
set
out
because
it's
so
outgrown
its
use.
B
B
It's
not
it's
not
unusual
for
deputies
to
have
to
break
up
people,
families
who
are
in
fights
about
things
related
to
child
custody,
because
as
much
as
they
try
to
keep
people
apart,
it's
just
too
cramped
quarters
and
that's
just
not
a
good
way
to
proceed.
There
is
only
one
elevator
for
prisoner
transport,
as
major
Massey
said,
and
there
are
times
when,
due
to
time
constraints
and
other
things
that
judges
ride
the
elevator
with
prisoners
and
that's
not
a
good
situation.
He's
already
mentioned
the
holding
cells.
B
The
other
side
of
the
building
is
running
about
80
degrees,
so
they
have
their
their
blinds
closed.
Their
doors
wide
open,
even
if
their
courts
that
are
supposed
to
be
secured
fans
going
and,
and
so
the
inefficiencies
are,
are
just
tremendous
and
I
think
that
about
does
that
we
are
spending
approximately
a
million
dollars
to
repair
system
right
now.
Just
so,
we
can
continue
to
use
this
building
and
that
pipe
system
is
only
one
of
many
system
failures
that
we're
having
to
deal
with,
and
so
I
think.
B
At
some
point
we
need
to
make
the
decision
of
how
is
the
money
being
best
spent,
but
no
way
shape
or
form?
Is
this
current
building
meet
present-day
building
codes
or
safety
codes?
It's
only
because
it's
grandfathered
in
that
it's
being
allowed
to
be
inhabited
in
any
way
whatsoever.
So
with
that
I
will.
Thank
you
major
masse
do
stick
around.
There
may
well
be
additional
questions
and
I'm
going
to
call
forward
david
Helmick,
who
was
a
member
representing
the
Columbus
Bar
Association.
L
You
mayor
Thompson,
Thank,
You,
Council,
for
hearing
us
and
having
us
this
morning,
the
Commission
did
survey
the
public
as
part
of
its
work.
It
created
a
fairly
lengthy
survey,
got
a
good
bit
of
responses
and
thousands
literally
comments
from
citizens
about
the
government
center
about
their
thoughts
touched
on
the
hot
points.
Very
briefly
before
getting
into
the
specifics.
L
What
we
heard
and
what
we
saw
from
the
comments
and
the
responses
was
a
feeling
of.
First
of
all
about
the
way
security
is
handled,
there's
an
appreciation
for
the
way
that
the
sheriff's
office
handles
the
security
and
that
sub-points,
given
the
limited,
given
the
limitations
that
they
have
with
the
current
building.
As
it's
formed
right
now,
some
many
many
complaints
about
the
the
entryway,
which
has
been
kind
of
moved
to
a
loading
dock
areas.
L
What
some
citizens
called
it
and
a
real
bemoaning
of
the
departure
of
open
spaces
as
the
Government
Center
was
originally
created,
and
a
move
to
the
way
that
that
security
and
the
building
has
to
be
run.
Now,
due
to
the
security
reasons-
and
there
was
overall
really
a
feeling
that
something
must
be
done
and
that
just
doing
nothing
ruling
truly
is
not
an
option
we
did
in
our
survey
get
a
total
of
1576
responses.
L
We
got
a
wide
age
range
from
our
citizens
and
the
survey
takers-
and
these
are
some
of
the
specific
highlights
not
going
to
go
through
the
entire
survey-
would
take
probably
about
an
hour,
but
it
is
available
I
believe
in
the
appendix
in
there.
So
you
see
when
citizens
survey
takers
are
asked.
How
satisfied
are
you
with
parking?
For
instance,
we
have
on
the
right
side
of
this
green
over
50%,
indicating
a
level
of
dissatisfaction,
for
instance,
with
the
parking
those
saying
they
were
somewhat
satisfied.
L
A
very
satisfied
come
out
to
just
a
little
over
a
quarter
of
the
survey
takers
when
asked
about
the
facilities
just
in
general,
elevator,
stairwells,
restrooms
and
so
forth.
We
have
a
very
similar
response
of
about
fifty
fifty-one
percent,
indicating
dissatisfaction
with
the
facilities
and
approximately
thirty
two
percent
saying
they
are
satisfied
with
the
facilities
in
the
government
center
as
they
stand
now
just
kind
of
a
softball
question.
L
Just
a
general
question:
how
satisfied
are
you
with
the
government
Center
we
had
about
forty
two
percent
saying
that
they
were
somewhat
are
very
dissatisfied
a
little
less
indicating
a
level
of
satisfaction
with
about
fifteen
percent
indicating
neutral
to
no
opinion.
We
also
asked
the
survey
takers.
L
The
citizens
is
the
government
Center
an
important
icon
or
symbol
of
Columbus
Georgia
with
forty
nine
percent,
indicating
yes,
that
it
is
and
when
we
read
the
comments,
we
found
some
some
interesting
comments:
interesting
viewpoints
with
citizens
indicating
yes,
it
is
an
icon,
an
important
icon,
perhaps
for
more
negative
reasons.
We
saw
the
word.
L
I
saw
popping
up
many
times
in
the
comments
people
indicating
it
was
an
icon,
because
simply
it's
Columbus's,
most
obvious
landmark,
and
then
you
see
one
comment
down
there
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen,
saying
yes,
it's,
but
it's
a
bad
icon
and
one
that
hurts
us.
That's
one
thing
we
saw
several
times
was
citizens
saying
for
for
an
icon
for
a
symbol
of
the
city
for
a
place
that
that
visitors
to
the
city
look
to
that?
This
was
just
really
a
negative
type
building
and
not
a
good
face
of
our
city.
L
And
finally,
just
closing
down.
We
did
ask
the
citizens
should
Columbus
have
a
judicial
complex
that
is
separate
from
its
government
and
city
services
and
we
had
about
50%
I,
think
more
than
50%
indicating
yes,
we
should
have
a
separate
judicial
complex,
which
was
really
noteworthy
to
me
because
it
came
without
or
before
any
real
outreach
or
education
on.
B
B
Do
you
recall
them
because
I
think
we
need
to?
Let
me
see
if
I
can
find
those
quickly
just
kind
of
talk
about
them,
but
as
as
maybe
Eric
can
find
those
slide
results
from
the
the
next
two
surveys
that
were
done
about
the
options.
Let
me
just
say,
we
did
have
four
different
public
forums
where
people
filled
out
comment
cards.
Those
also
are
in
the
appendix,
and
we
gave
two
tours
that
are
open
to
the
public
and
we
recorded
them
by
video
and
then
played
them
on
CCG
for
a
couple
of
weeks.
B
So
so
those
were,
that
was
some
additional
outreach
and
then,
of
course,
if
we
had,
if
we
had,
you
know
people
email
us,
because
they
read
an
article
in
the
paper
or
posted
something
on
Facebook.
We
printed
that
out
and
those
are
in
the
comments
too.
So
we
really
had
a
ton
of
input
and
and
so
I'm
looking
now,
and
it
does
look
like
from
page
21
and
22
are
where
we
have
additional
surveys
from
the
citizens.
B
It
looks
like
six
hundred
and
fifty
individuals
took
the
survey
of
which
of
the
three
options
they
liked
best
and
then,
of
course,
we
have
the
survey
that
was
done
of
the
commission
members
and
so
maybe
I'll
hold
on
to
what
their
result
was
until
we
have
the
next
presenter,
which
is
going
to
be
to
actually
presenters
Michael,
Starr,
Neal,
Clark
and
David.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
B
Hard
work,
yeah,
Michael
and
Neal
you'll
want
to
come
forward.
I
want
to.
Thank
you
all.
These
are
two
architect
firms
from
the
community
who
worked
for
free
to
help
us.
Thank
you
so
much
for
volunteering,
your
time,
I'm,
not
sure
you
knew
what
you
were
getting
into
when
you
volunteered,
but
I
appreciate
you
both
sticking
with
us,
and
it
was
a
lot
of
time.
Thank
you.
Thank.
M
You
mayor,
my
name
is
Neal
Clark
with
heck
Murray,
shawl
architects
I'm.
Here
today,
with
Michael
Starr
with
two
WR
architects.
Our
two
firms
were
actually
quite
pleased
to
come
together
and
serve
our
city
and
our
mayor
and
the
committee
as
a
as
a
resource
as
they
went
through
this
process.
Our
role
really
was
to
support
John
Hutchison
and
the
committee,
as
raw
data
would
would
come
forward
regarding
building
program
and
issues
regarding
what
is
needed
in
the
future.
We
would
take
those
and
translate
it
into
thoughts.
Ideas
sketches
about
different
possibilities.
M
It
was
very
open-ended
process.
We
did
not
start
or
in
with
a
preconceived
notion.
All
options
were
on
the
table.
Whether
the
government
center
should
remain
at
the
government
center
site
or
move
to
some
alternate
site.
All
was
a
possibility
that
was
studied,
and
that
is
kind
of
exhaustively
detailed
in
the
report.
If
you
want
to
read
that
all
the
different
scenarios
that
were
originally
looked
at
in
the
end,
we
ended
up
with
three
scenarios
on
the
government
center
site,
the
current
site.
M
You
know
what
all
of
our
studying
showed
us
was
that
the
1825
master
plan
of
Columbus
that
identified
a
courthouse
on
the
current
site
was
was
wise.
There
were
reasons,
then,
that
that
was
a
good
site.
Those
reasons
are
still
valid
today,
so
I'm
going
to
just
take
a
few
minutes
and
run
through
the
first
two
scenarios,
and
then
Michael
Starr
will
come
up
and
present
the
third
scenario.
M
The
first
scenario
is
the
only
scenario
that
that
keeps
both
wings
and
the
tower
intact.
It
does
add
there.
There
is
no
scheme
that
does
not
have
some
addition
to
that
building
and
that's
just
because
the
program
elements
all
add
up
to
more
than
300,000
square
feet.
The
government
Center
tower
and
wings
has
a
total
of
about
276.
So,
no
matter
what
you
do,
you
would
have
an
addition
to
that.
To
that
building.
M
The
pros
of
this
is
that
you
keep
the
iconic
Tower
and
wings
pretty
well
intact,
although
it
does
get
a
complete
renovation
and
when
we
say
complete,
we
mean
the
structure,
the
roof
of
the
substructure
stays,
but
all
the
systems
are
replaced.
The
skin
of
the
building
is
replaced,
the
interior
gets
new
walls
and
a
new
layout,
a
complete
renovation,
and
that
is
what
the
numbers
that
you
will
see
reflect
in
terms
of
a
budget.
M
Some
of
the
cons
are
that
this
now
keeps
both
judicial
and
government
City
offices
in
the
same
building.
They
would
still
be
scattered
around
throughout
the
building.
Some
departments
may
be
on
multiple
floors
and
you
would
still
have
the
security
issue,
which
is
when
you
come
in.
Everybody
would
have
to
go
through
the
most
strict
security
because
it
is
a
judicial
facility.
Even
people
coming
just
to
city
offices
would
have
to
go.
Go
through
that
scenario.
M
It's
also
a
renovation
scheme.
It
preserves
the
tower,
but
demolishes
the
two
wings
and
in
the
place
of
the
two
wings
we
build
a
separate
new
facility
for
government
offices
you're,
seeing
this
from
the
corner
of
1st
Avenue
and
10th
Street
kind
of
from
the
rankin
looking
at
the
site.
The
tower
would
be
judicial.
It
would
have
an
addition
of
2
or
3
floors
on
both
the
north
and
the
south
sides
to
get
the
square
footage
necessary
for
for
judicial.
The
way
the
the
tower
was
originally
designed.
M
All
the
courthouse
functions
are
on
the
upper
levels.
That's
where
the
highest
Florida
floor.
Heights
are
that
would
accommodate
the
big
courtrooms
and
the
lower
Florida
floor
heights
are
on
the
lower
floors.
If
we
were
designing
that
today,
we
would
flip
it.
You
know
we
would
put
the
the
highest
occupancy,
which
is
the
courtrooms,
the
highest
occupant
loads
on
those
lower
levels.
In
this
one,
we
would
have
to
keep
them
on
the
upper
levels
where
the
high
Florida
floor
is
so.
M
The
the
pros
to
this
would
be
that
we
get
to
separate
the
government
office
from
the
judicial.
You
could
now
have
a
much
lower
levels.
Security
going
into
the
governmental
office
buildings
keep
the
higher
level
security
going
into
the
tower
area.
We
handle
parking
on
this
by
a
new
300
car
underground
parking.
That
would
be
beneath
the
plaza
that
you
see
there.
One
of
the
one
of
the
pros
is
that
this
creates
now
a
new
public
park
that
connects
the
to
the
office
building
and
the
tower
with
an
underground
deck
below
it.
M
B
Okay,
yeah!
Well,
let
me
go
through
yeah
I
thought
there
was
a
slide.
We
did
have
a
slide
at
one
point,
but
for
the
first
one,
if
you
put
the
first
one
back
up
John
the
cost
of
taking
it
back
to
the
studs
and
there
you
go
yeah
I
knew
he
had
the
slide
somewhere.
Thank
you.
So
this
was
for
scenario,
one
which
shows
a
cost
of.
B
Of
course,
that's
you
know
all
projected,
but
you
can
see
there
how
they
break
it
down
to
include
the
parking,
the
demolition
or
even
landscaping,
site
preparation,
that
type
of
thing
for
scenario,
one
and
then
some
to
John.
If
you
have
that-
and
this
is
on
page
18
of
the
report-
it
shows
a
hundred
and
3.7
million
for
just
the
cost
of
it
was
built
today
again.
That
also
includes
a
new
400
space
parking,
deck
and
and
also
the
new
parking
deck
underground
for
300
spaces.
B
So
a
good
12
million
dollars
of
that
cost
is
included
just
with
the
additional
parking
so
again,
103
point
7
million.
If
you
add
in
inflation
to
by
the
time
this
could
be
approved
and
built
you're
talking
an
estimated
inflation
cost
of
about
10
million,
so
for
a
total
of
114
million
dollars.
For
this
scenario,
so
Michael
did
you
want
to
come
and
talk
about
scenario,
3.
N
Good
morning,
mayor
and
councillors
for
scenario
3,
this
is
a
complete
demolition
of
the
existing
complex,
both
the
tower
and
the
wings
and
first
let
me
emphasize
that
this
is
only
a
massing
and
site
layout
concept
and
is
not
a
building
design
at
this
point
merely
shows
what
an
arrangement
of
buildings
of
the
approximate
scale
we're
talking
about
could
look
like
on
the
site,
so
we've
got
two
distinct
entrances
to
the
buildings.
Both
the
office
building
and
the
judicial
building.
The
judicial
building
is
the
taller.
N
It's
approximately
12
stories
that
you
can
see
there
and
the
office
building.
There
sits
on
the
corner
of
first
and
ninth
Street.
One
of
the
things
that
you'll
notice
is.
It
creates
a
lot
of
public
green
space
and
we
felt
the
idea
of
kind
of
contrasting
with
the
existing
facility
that
is
very
closed
off
and
you
can't
access
the
public
space
that
was
originally
created,
providing
green
space,
both
kind
of
a
formal
front
yard.
N
So
some
of
the
the
highlights
for
this
particular
scheme,
the
with
the
judicial
building
it
is
sited
further
to
the
north
and
then
the
original
Tower
is
which
would
allow
the
tower
to
stay
in
place.
While
the
new
Judicial
Center
is
being
constructed,
the
wings
would
have
to
be
demolished
and
in
all
of
the
functions
within
the
wings,
would
then
have
to
be
temporarily
relocated
until
the
Attar
complex
was
rebuilt.
But
that
is
one
of
the
pluses
of
this
location.
N
It's
also
set
back
from
the
street
on
Second
Avenue,
both
for
scale
reasons
and
also
security
and
protection
reasons,
because
the
course
are
in
the
lowest
kind
of
three-story
plinth.
That's
created
there
that
breaks
the
scale
the
building
down
and
also
does
what
Neal
was
talking
about.
If
we
were
to
design
a
new
judicial
complex
these
days,
we
would
want
the
the
highest
use
in
highest
occupancy
areas
there
on
those
lower
floors,
easy
in-and-out
and
access,
and
we
don't
have
issues
with
people
being
on
tenth
and
12
stories.
N
Large
numbers
of
people
in
an
emergency
situation
which
obviously
we
have
right
now
underground
parking
as
well
here
in
this
large
green
space.
That
would
all
be
a
multi-level
below-grade
parking
area
that
would
be
secured.
So
that
could
be
staff
judges,
etc
would
also
have
an
underground
sally
port.
With
a
separate,
elevator
and
entrance
that
was
secured
underground
for
prisoners
to
to
be
able
to
access
the
the
Judicial
Center
judges
would
have
their
own
separate
vertical
access
as
well.
N
B
Thank
you,
Michael
John.
Do
you
want
to
put
up
the
cost
for
option?
Three
and
again,
this
involves
the
demolition
of
the
tower
and
the
wings
and
the
parking
deck,
the
full
renovation
of
the
tower,
the
renovation
of
the
wings,
a
new
judicial
building,
a
new
building
for
the
city
offices,
a
new
parking
deck
underground
and
above-ground
site
and
landscaping
for
one
hundred
and
twelve
point
eight
million
dollars.
If
you
then
add
in
an
assumption
for
inflation
for
by
the
time
this
could
be
approved
and
built
its
one
hundred
and
twenty
four
million
dollars.
B
So
what
we
did
was
I
had,
as
I
said,
before,
four
public
forums
and
sent
that
out
to
the
community.
The
media
did
a
great
job
of
also
telling
folks
where
they
could
find
it
online,
and
then
we
sent
out
a
poll
which
had
the
video
all
three
options
with
all
three
costs:
scenarios
that
you're
seeing
here-
and
we
asked
people
to
click,
to
make
sure
that
they
watched
the
video
and
to
say
whether
or
not
they
read
the
cost
scenarios
and
so
forth,
and
ninety-three
percent
of
them
said
that
they
did.
B
B
Sixteen
point:
six
percent
voted
for
option
two
and
seventeen
point.
Nine
percent
voted
for
option
one.
After
that
we
did
have
some
additional
information
where
we
were
able
to
assess
the
efficiencies
of
the
current
building
and
the
current
building
cost
us
about
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
energy
cost,
and
it
was
estimated
based
on
industry,
energy
standards
that,
with
the
new
or
renovate
buildings,
even
with
thousands
of
extra
feet,
the
square
feet
of
extra
space,
we
could
save
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
a
year
in
energy
savings
which
I
thought
was
was
interesting.
B
35.7%
voted
for
number
2,
which
is
a
new
government
office
building
and
full
renovation
of
the
judicial
tower.
So
keeping
the
the
external
structure
of
the
judicial
tower
and
only
ten
percent
ten
point.
Seven
percent
voted
for
just
fully
renovating
the
the
tower.
So
that
was
the
scenario.
The
choice
of
the
committee
again
14
of
the
committee
voted
for
scenario,
3
9,
voted
for
scenario,
2,
&,
3,
voted
for
scenario,
1,
and-
and
so
they
also
noted,
though,
and
I
want
to
point
out
that
it's
it's
also
my
recommendation.
B
Then,
of
course,
you
could
cut
the
cost
of
construction
or
renovation
by
tens
of
millions
of
dollars,
and
so
it's
my
recommendation
to
Council
that
they
pursue
opportunities
of
existing
office
space
into
which
CCG
can
move
the
general
government
functions
of
the
city
government
and
then
provide
for
a
new
or
completely
renovated,
Judicial
Center,
with
additional
square
footage.
Just
a
rough
estimate
of
that
cost
would
be
more
in
line
with
the
99
million
dollar
figure
for
a
newly
constructed
judicial
building
and
moving
all
the
general
government
functions
into
existing
office
space.
B
So
you
have
a
little
bit
more
cost
efficiency
there.
It's
also
the
proposal
of
the
Commission
and
my
recommendation
to
council
that
they
consider
funding
this
through
a
special
Local
Option
Sales
Tax,
which
would
allow
for
the
citizens
to
vote
on
whether
they
wish
to
spend
their
money
in
this
particular
way.
B
Given
the
circumstances,
we
currently
have
an
east
blast
that
will
be
rolling
off
in
2020
and
that
would
present
a
timely
opportunity
that
was
quote-unquote
the
city's
penny
previously
now
it's
the
school
boards
and
we
have
a
little
I
guess
agreement
that
it
alternates
between
the
school
board
and
the
in
the
city,
and
so
this
next
time
would
be
our
opportunity
to
go
for
a
spliced
in
2020
I'll.
Note
that
the
existing
Government
Center
building
was
voted
on
by
the
citizens.
B
They
voted
whether
they
should
approve
bonds
to
fund
the
construction
and
so
I
think
it's
only
appropriate
that
the
citizens
vote
on
whether
they
should
have
a
sales
tax
that
would
fund
this
particular
Judicial
Center.
If
we're
able
to
find
existing
office
space
to
move
the
general
government
functions
into
that
would
keep
our
tax
rate
or
sales
tax
rate
at
8%,
which
has
been
out
for
some
period
of
time
and
our
citizens
are
used
to
and
again
allows
us
the
opportunity
to
take
this
to
the
citizens
and
for
them
to
to
make
the
decision.
B
So
that
is
our
report.
I
want
to
open
it
up
for
questions
from
Council.
If
there's
any,
we
were
able
to
get
this
out
to
Council
Friday
once
we
got
it
back
from
the
printers
and
and
we're
able
to
scan
it
and
get
a
digital
copy
to
them,
and
so
they
have
had
a
bit
of
opportunity
to
look
at
it,
but
I'm
sure
they'll
continue
to
look
at
it
as
well
as
the
appendix
that
we
have.
So
while
we
have
all
these
folks
gathered.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
at
this
time.
O
Woodson
a
question
in
the
design
of
the
of
the
building
that,
even
in
the
new
construction
building
and
the
building
that
existed
will
be
modelled
or
remodeled.
Why
didn't
we
try
to
add
some
of
the
surrounding
facades,
like
we're,
surrounded
by
a
lot
of
historical
buildings?
Csu
has
even
done
some
to
complement
the
historic
district
I
was
wondering
why
the
building
looks
so
modern
compared
to
its
surrounding
areas.
M
O
M
Place
holder
says
that
a
reasonable
approach
may
be
to
take
to
begin
to
play
off
of
the
materials
of
the
tower
the
glass,
the
concrete,
the
white
black
play
of
colors
there
and
to
introduce
that
into
a
new
building
on
the
same
site,
certainly
as
as
this
goes
forward
and
as
architects
have
time
to
study
that
other
ideas
like
like
what
you
were
saying
to
maybe
play
off
of
some
of
the
surroundings,
rather
than
the
the
tower
that
may
be
a
possibility.
So
don't
own
any
of
these!
D
B
O
Not
and
I
mentioned
that
because
I'm
pretty
sure
that
the
Uptown
and
the
historic
district
as
they
look
at
the
presentation,
unfortunately,
perceptions
becomes
a
reality
and
I'm
pretty
sure
that
we
will
get
phone
call
saying.
Why
are
we
being
consistent,
and
that
was
my
reason
for
the
question,
because
I
already
predict
the
phone
calls
and
in
that
manner,
so
thank
you
very
much
for
clarifying
and
the
viewing
audience
and
those
from
the
historic
district
would
see.
Okay,
this
is
just
plumb
memory.
Something
else
will
come
if
possible
later.
Thank
you
great.
P
P
P
I
It
does
is
it
reduces
the
manpower
issue
with
modern
technology
and
the
entrances
and
exits
being
where
we
need
them.
We
wouldn't
need,
as
many
people
on
those
that
we
could
possibly
put
in
other
places,
that
we
need
them
as
well,
but
no
it
would.
It
would
reduce
the
need
for
manpower
that
we
currently
utilize
it
at
that
facility
and.
Q
That
current
building
tell
me
tell
me
about
that
right,
some
of
that's
because
of
the
design
of
the
land
and
the
structure,
simply
because
it's
such
a
large
building
there's
what
we
refer
to
as
a
pushback,
obviously
from
the
side
of
the
building.
So
if
you
have
a
hundred
foot
ladder,
you're
really
only
going
to
get
to
about
the
fifth
or
sixth
floor
if
we
position
properly
so
so
you
guys
understand
from
a
firefighting
perspective.
The
building
has
an
issue.
It's
going
to
be
a
smoke
control
issue.
Q
Okay,
so
fire
is
not
typically
going
to
take
down
a
building
of
that
of
that
magnitude.
It's
going
to
be
the
smoke.
That's
going
to
do
the
most
damage,
so
prompt
evacuation
is
what's
most
important,
so
that's
a
stairwell
operation
for
us.
We
simply
would
not
be
able
to
effectively
fight
a
fire
from
the
outside
of
that
structure.
So
those.
Q
The
stairway
are
more
remote
in
the
wings
and
again
I.
Think
the
critical
issue
for
the
fire
service
is
the
fact
that
you
do
have
large
populations
of
what
we
would
consider.
Sometimes
less
ambulatory
populations
up
high
and
the
structure.
You
know
which
is
bad
for
us,
so
all
these
folks
would
not
be
able
to
really
get
down
the
stairwell
very
well
at
all.
A
lot
of
them
have
trouble
just
getting
from
the
parking
lot
through
the
elevator
system.
Q
P
N
P
As
we're
looking
at
our
options,
we
need
to
be
sure
to
keep
those
kinds
of
things
in
mind
too,
and
then
I'm
not
gonna,
hold
you
to
this
I'm
looking
for
a
ballpark.
If
you
were
to
get
the
okay
today
to
go
forth
and
do
whichever
one
of
these
options
is,
what
kind
of
timeline
are
we
looking
at?
How
long
are
we
looking
what
to
to
come
to
to
have
the
grand
opening
from.
R
P
B
H
B
And
so
we
have
a
good
working
relationship,
certainly,
and
and
and
also
you
know,
we
usually
go
out
for
a
little
bit
more
believe
it
or
not
than
this
would
be.
So
we
probably
would
I'm
sure
this
council
will
talk
about
the
opportunities.
Are
there
any
other
critical
needs
that
our
infrastructure
needs
that
need
to
be
on
that
list
as
well,
whether
it's
school
district
or
us
having.
P
Work
in
that
building,
if
money
were
no
object,
I
would
tell
you
to
go
down
there
this
afternoon
and
start
tearing
that
place
down.
You
know,
but
money
is
an
object
that
we
do
have
to
make
sure
that
we
are
looking
at
the
right
things
and
making
those
right
choices
and
I
do
want
to
thank
the
Commission
for
your
efforts.
I
know
that
it
was
a
time-consuming
effort
for
you
and
we
appreciate
it.
Thank.
B
You
mayor
great,
thank
you,
and
there
is
obviously
in
the
essence
of
time.
We
want
to
continue
to
move
on.
I
will
say
that
that
there
is
in
the
reports
from
discussion
of
the
fact
that
we
could
obviously,
if
there's
a
new
building
to
be
done,
for
instance,
you
can
retain
people
in
place
while
the
new
buildings
being
done.
There
is
a
plan
that
would
allow
for
that.
If,
of
course,
there
was
existing
office
space
and
the
general
government
could
move
in,
then
you
have
all
sorts
of
options
of
flexibility
of
how
to
stage
this.
T
M
S
M
It's
a
significant,
you
know
it's
a
significant
number,
particularly
over
time.
I
think
the
mayor
did
a
great
job
of
laying
out
what
the
challenges
are
in
that
existing
tower
and
wings.
And,
of
course,
when
you
go
to
new
new
construction
today,
systems
the
latest
technology
energies
efficiencies
there,
when
you
get
into
things
like
LED
lighting,
lower
energy
demand
on
that
you
take
all
those
savings,
you
multiply
it
over
the
lifetime
of
a
building.
It's
a
significant
number.
Okay,.
S
And
I
guess
motor
question
motors,
probably
finance
question,
but
it
was
dealing
with
the
special
purpose
tax.
If
it's
a
three
year
construction
timeline,
it
might
be
possible
to
run
that
on
a
pay-as-you-go
rather
than
have
to
issue
bonds
and
use
the
sales
tax
to
pay
back
the
bonds
and
incur
interest
in
underwriting
cost
I
realize
that
some
finance.
S
U
You,
mayor
and
I'm
just
gonna
be
briefed
on
the
sake
of
time
understand.
This
is
just
an
initial
presentation
and
it's
just
a
report
this
morning
and
certainly
I
appreciate
all
the
members,
your
time
efforts
and
contributions.
It's
greatly
appreciated
by
not
only
myself
with
this
body.
Just
a
couple
comments,
that's
all
I'm
gonna
do
I
mean
you
can
take
it
for
whatever
you
want.
U
You
know
file
it
somewhere
whatever,
but
just
on
the
face
from
a
face
standpoint,
I'm
glad
the
mayor
said
that
the
one
thing
here
that's
really
important
is
that
the
government
center
does
belong
to
the
taxpayers
and
certainly
they're
the
owners
in
any
decision.
It
would
be
right
that
the
decision
is
placed
in
their
hands.
U
Second
I
would
think
at
some
point.
You
would
really
being
that
what
was
just
stated
about
the
soft
cost,
other
expenses
and
all
I
would
think
that
you
need
to
sharpen
your
a
little
bit
to
get
a
more
accurate
reflection
on
exactly
what
we're
talking
about.
I
am
a
little
concerned
today
in
today's
building
environment,
where
it's
going
with
all
the
natural
catastrophes
and
all
we
are
seeing
anywhere
from
a
you
know:
a
increase
of
25%
in
construction
costs
today,
which,
which
is
causing
a
lot
of
projects
to
come
off
the
table.
U
You
just
cannot
absorb
that
kind
of
sorb.
That
kind
of
risk
I
understand
this
is
totally
different.
This
is
a
different
source
of
funding,
but
I
would
think
that
you
would
also
would
have
to
look
at
it
in
the
in
the
same
manner.
I
do
like
the
aspect
of
ASP
lots
where
you
can
totally
absorb
all
that
and
then
deal
with
the
operational
side
on
a
on
an
annual
basis.
I
think
that
would
probably
be
I've.
You
know
at
this
magnitude.
The
numbers
were
talking
about.
U
U
You
know
I
know
this
is
just
a
report.
I
would
hope
that
there
would
be
more
conversation
about
maybe
other
alternatives
or
other
ways
to
go
about
it.
I
think
the
square
footage
can
be
handled
in
many
many
ways,
and
certainly
I
would
I
would
hope
that
at
some
point
in
time
there
would
be
a
discussion
on
the
possibility
of
of
going
a
different
route,
maybe
lower
to
the
ground.
Expanding
now,
not
so
high,
possibly
separate
in
buildings
as
well.
U
I
think
that
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
cost
efficiencies
now
even
on
the
operational
side,
but
from
a
financing
side
to
I
think
that
that
really
needs
to
be
explored
because
you,
you
could
probably
get
a
lot
more
for
your
buck,
bang
for
your
buck
and
doing
that,
and
even
the
costs
may
even
come
down
considerably
I
like
the
idea
of
having
more
with
what
we
have.
Of
course
again,
it
would
be
the
citizens
decision
more
of
a
campus
type
atmosphere
where
you
could
actually
create
efficiencies
and
Co
efficiencies.
U
U
Lastly,
mr.
city
manager,
for
this
body,
I've
just
kind
of
intrigued
by
some
of
the
things
being
said,
could
you
provide?
Could
you
provide
the
council
with
a
an
actual
cost
of
what
it
takes
to
operate?
Those
facilities
over
there
I
know
utilities
was
mentioned,
but
I
would
like
to
really
see
a
breakdown
of
the
actual
cost,
all
the
way
across
utilities,
whether
it's
maintenance,
whether
it's
third-party
work
involved
materials,
you
know
and
and
maybe
just
a
snapshot
over
the
last
three
years
of
what
it
has
really
cost
the
city
to
operate
those
facilities.
U
V
We
can
certainly
provide
you
with
that
information.
I
think
when
we
provide
it
to
you.
I
would
keep
in
mind
that
the
utility
calls
would
be
the
actual
cost,
but
when
it
comes
to
maintenance,
it's
been
basically
what
we
could
have
forward.
It's
not
I
mean
it'll,
be
a
real
cost,
but
were
we
able
to
afford
it?
We
would
have
spent
much
more
on
maintenance
than
what
you'll
see,
but
we'll
have
some
footnotes
this
year.
All
of
that
with
you
when
we
bring
that
information
back
to.
U
You
and
thank
you
and
lastly,
whatever
is
done.
Okay,
and
this
is
your
to
give
my
perspective
I,
don't
think
you
want
to
do
a
10
15
year
fix
on
this.
You
know
renovations,
really
really
concerned
me,
because
you
never
can
peg
exactly
what
it's
going
to
cost.
You
usually
con
costing
a
lot
more
new
bill.
U
You
can
kind
of
determine
you
know
exactly
what
it
is,
but
I
think
that
whatever
it's
done
for
the
sake
of
this
city,
when
I'm
here
or
not
or
any
of
these
members
are
here
or
are
you
guys
I
think
you
got
to
look
like
30
40
50
years
out,
if
you're
going
to
be
spending
this
kind
of
money,
I
think
that
that
ought
to
be
the
mindset
so
anyway.
Those
are
my
comments
and
again
we
appreciate
every
one
of
you
and
thank
you
for
this.
This
presentation,
I
think
you
all
did
a
great
job.
B
Thank
you,
and
that
concludes
the
questions
for
this
moment.
As
you
can
obviously
see,
this
is
going
to
continue
to
be
something
of
discussion.
I'm
sure
there'll
be
discussion
in
the
community,
as
the
press
talks
about
what's
happened
this
morning
and
also
as
people
go
online
to
look
at
the
report.
I
note
in
closing
to
the
letter
that
that
leads
off
the
report
that
we
can
and
must
do
better.
This
is
just
a
safety
issue.
B
This
is
not
about
aesthetics,
although
aesthetics
are
nice
and
we
always
want
a
civic
building,
the
citizens
are
proud
of
and-
and
we
always
want
efficiency,
so
we're
doing
their
business
in
a
way
that
the
best
returns
value
for
them.
But
at
this
point
it
really
is
about
basic
function,
functionality
and
safety,
and
so
I
hope
people
will
read
it
with
that.
Reverent
I
I
too,
want
to
thank
the
Commission
and
we're
going
to
ask
each
of
them
as
I
call
out
their
names
to
come
forward.
We
have
a
special
commemorative
gift.
B
You
all
have
worked
as
I
said
for
11
months,
but
our
meetings
were
two
hours
long.
They
involved
these
folks
coming
to
the
After,
Hours
tours
and
and
forums
and
things
of
that
nature.
Many
of
them
were
on
subcommittees,
proof-read
things
and
so
forth.
We
met
most
of
the
time
twice
a
month,
so
you're
talking
twenty-something
meetings
just
for
the
Commission
itself.
So
this
was
a
huge
time
commitment.
We're
so
grateful
for
your
time,
expertise
and
input,
and
so
let
me
go
ahead
and
rattle
off.
B
We
have,
of
course,
the
city
manager,
Isaiah
Hughley,
who
served
ex
officio
the
Mayor
Pro
Tem
Evelyn
Pugh,
and
if
you
again
as
I
call
your
name
if
you're
sitting
in
the
audience,
please
come
forward
at
the
very
least,
so
we
can
see
you
and
recognize
you,
and
also
to
save
Eric.
A
few
steps
sheriff
Donna
Tompkins
was
on
the
commission.
Counselor
skip
Henderson
councillor,
Gary
Allen.
B
Councillor
Walker
Garrett
and
obviously
we
knew
councillor
Garrett
and
councillor
Henderson
couldn't
be
with
us
today.
So
we'll
save
those
and
get
these
coins
to
them
will
have
the
Mayor
Pro
Tem
hold
hers
up.
Maybe
Mike
can
take
a
shot
of
it
with
the
camera.
We
have
a
clerk
of
Superior,
Court
and
Hardman
been
a
judge.
Ben
Richardson.
B
We
have
Elizabeth
Barker
with
historic,
Columbus
and
I
will
refer
everyone
to
historic,
Columbus's
letter
and
report.
They
did
some
great
work
for
us
and
lays
out
from
a
historic
standpoint,
some
of
their
very
strong
views.
So
do
take
a
look
at
that.
They'll
continue
to
be
an
important
part
of
our
discussion
as
we
go
forward.
Of
course,
Chief
Justice
Gil
McBride,
who
was
here
earlier,
will
make
sure
we
get
a
coin
to
him.
We
have
Reverend
Jimmy
elder.
B
He
presides
over
one
of
the
of
course:
churches,
First,
Baptist
Church
of
Columbus.
That's
in
the
immediate
vicinity,
joy,
Norman,
who's
with
Clemmie
State
University
and
also
represents
the
mayor's
Commission
on
persons
with
disabilities,
and
was
there
to
speak
so
knowledgeably
about
a
DA
issue.
So
thank
you.
B
B
Angelica
Alexander
with
finance
Deena
Bearden
with
the
Sheriff's
Office
Donna
Newman
with
engineering
and
Eric,
can
get
these
to
them.
Edie
berry
who's
with
the
court
system,
John
Hutchinson,
who
you
met
earlier
today,
Michael
Starr
with
two
WR
Neil
Clark
who's
with
heck
Berta,
Shaw,
Parker
Blanton.
B
B
W
Good
morning,
good
morning,
I
will
promise
to
keep
this
as
short
as
possible,
but
do
let
me
thank
a
couple
of
people
who
helped
me
put
this
presentation
together.
First
Brian
Anderson
move
y'all
mentioned
from
the
chamber,
Brian
Salido,
who
is
our
economic
development
executive
vice
president
of
the
chamber,
and
let
me
thank
y'all
also
for
allowing
Pam
highs
to
sit
in
as
an
ex
officio
member
and
our
development
authority.
W
W
What
I
want
to
do
is
a
couple
of
things.
Real,
quick
I
want
to
give
you
all
an
update
on
what
we've
accomplished
in
2017
and
then
talk
about
some
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
that
maybe
are
a
little
bit
different
and
that
we're
trying
to
do
to
improve
our
our
results.
Ultimately,
this
is
a
snapshot.
W
What
we
really
focus
on
our
jobs
and
capital
investment
and,
as
you
can
see
from
these
numbers-
and
you
compare
them
to
the
five-year
averages
we
are-
we
had
a
good
year
a
solid
year,
not
an
extraordinary
neat
year
by
anybody's
standards,
but
we
didn't
quite
make
the
numbers
for
five-year
average
on
jobs.
We
do
have
an
announcement
that
we
hope
might
be
done
before
the
end
of
the
year.
That
will
probably
get
us
there.
W
Those
are
obviously
what
what
is
concerning
by
the
committee
is
the
number
of
announcements
we
obviously
want
to
have
more
than
that,
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
we've
started
to
look
at
the
way,
we're
doing
some
things
and
some
things
we
can
do
to
improve.
Ultimately,
our
performance
to
get
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
just
to
update
you
on
the
Pratt
&
Whitney
project.
W
Again
it
was
510
new
jobs,
24
million
of
additional
salaries
annually,
1,100
indirect
jobs,
46
million
dollars
in
property
taxes
projected
to
be
collected
over
the
next
20
years
and
three
point:
two:
five
to
six
million
in
sales
tax
annually.
That
is
a
picture
of
a
fairly
recent
picture.
If
you
hadn't
been
out
there,
they
were
moving
a
lot
of
dirt
pouring
a
lot
of
concrete
and
I.
Think
we'll
begin
to
see.
W
Some
of
those
hires
I
will
mention
in
conjunction
with
that
project
and
as
we
get
into
talking
about
some
of
the
challenges
we've
got.
We,
when
we
did
our
local
incentives
for
that
project,
we
directed
them
toward
a
training
facility.
That's
been
that
we
did
along
with
Columbus
Technical
the
Technical
College
System
of
Georgia
to
rebase
achill
II,
refurbish
a
building
out
in
corporate
Ridge
that
will
serve
as
a
training
facility
for
all
things
manufacturing,
but
initially
for
Pratt
&
Whitney
to
facilitate
these
510
jobs.
W
So
what
are
we
doing
to
get
better,
I?
Think
the
first
thing
in
the
maybe
the
most
interesting
thing
we've
done.
We
we
brought
in
a
group
of
foresight,
consultants
and
again,
if
you
all
remember,
site
consultants,
are
those
people
who
are
in
the
business
of
working
with
large
corporations
who
helped
them
find
locations
to
put
their
next
facility.
We
brought
in
for
those
people.
Hadn't
spent
a
couple
of
days
with
us
took
them
around,
showed
them
all
of
our
assets.
W
What
they
told
us
were
both
some
negative
things
and
some
positive
things,
the
first
negative,
more
time
cost
and
uncertainly
to
developing
real
estate
compared
to
our
competitors,
primarily
one
that
we
were
looking
at
this.
Is
it
Muscovy
technology
part
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
on
a
future
slide.
I'll
tell
you
what
we're
doing
to
sort
of
overcome
that
lack
of
short-term
real
estate
options,
ie
spec
buildings,
and
that
is
both
those
that
the
Development
Authority
has
under
their
control,
which
is
zero
today,
and
what
the
private
market
has
out
there.
W
There's
not
a
lot
of
manufacturing
facilities
of
size
that
are
available,
and
the
beauty
of
that
is
even
if
it's
not
the
right
building
for
somebody.
It
gets
them
to
come
down
here
a
lot
of
times,
and
so
we've
discovered
that
I
think
we
don't
get
quite
as
many
visits
as
we
used
to
get
when
we
had
ready
available
buildings.
Part
of
that
is
today's
world,
because
it
changes
some
frequently
used
to
people
would
plan
ahead.
W
Today,
a
lot
of
companies
don't
want
to
look
at
building
a
new
facility
until
they've
almost
got
the
contract
in
hand,
that's
going
to
provide
the
work
for
that
facility
and
then
they're
wanting
to
do
it
in
six
months,
instead
of
12
or
18
or
24
months,
like
we
used
to
see
it
so
that
business
is
getting
a
lot
more
competitive,
we're
looking
at,
we
actually
are
getting
some
mixed
information
back
as
we
talk
the
more
site
consultant,
some
of
them
say
yeah.
It
really
helps
you
get
people
there.
W
Others
say
we
know
the
cost
of
doing
that,
and
so
we
don't
necessarily
recommend
it.
But
there
are
some
other
things
you
can
to
be
more
ready
to
answer
that
question,
so
we're
working
on
some
of
that
minimum
minimum
population
growth
over
the
last
five
years.
You
know
it's
all
that
in
the
Columbus
2025
report,
and
that
is
a
again.
W
This
business
is
about
these
site
consultants
and
companies
being
able
to
look
at
all
of
your
data
and
figure
out
ways
to
cut
you
from
the
list
and
when
they
see
a
community
that
in
population
is
not
growing.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
they'll
look
at
and
go
it's
not
a
happening
community,
despite
what
we
know
is
going
on
great
in
Columbus.
That's
a
narrative
that
that
plays
out
a
little
bit.
They
told
us
played
out
in
the
data
that
they
found
online
to
talk
about
us.
W
W
This
is
both
the
pipeline
I
think
from
like
eighth
grade
up
through
12th
grade
to
align
with
the
needs
that
we're
going
to
have
and
then
there's
a
training
piece
of
you've
got
people
that
are
already
graduated
from
high
school,
but
don't
have
the
necessary
skills
for
the
jobs
that
are
open
and
so
we're
working
on
both
of
those
issues.
But
that
is
a
I
think,
that's
a
issue
that
almost
every
city
has
some
problems
with,
and
so
we're
not
alone
in
that
certainly
the
crime
and
poverty.
W
And
let
me
say,
first
of
all,
let
me
commend
the
progress
that
we've
made
as
a
city
I
think
over
the
last
several
years,
where
the
statistics
show
that
we've
dropped
in
crime
by
up
to
a
third
in
a
lot
of
categories.
That
is
a
great
story
that
I
think
we've
not
done
a
great
job
of
telling,
and
so,
when
you
go
out
there
and
look
at
some
of
the
data
that
exists,
what
these
site
consultants
are
saying
there.
W
You
are
that's
a
great
story
to
tell
the
community
policing
stuff
is
a
great
story
to
tell,
but
we
still
look
at
these
numbers
that
we
get,
that
we
can
find
online
and
they
can
cause
you
to
be
ruled
out,
and
so
that's
in
that's
a
issue
that
we're
going
to
work
toward
helping
to
resolve,
and
so
don't
want
that
to
come
across
as
us
taking
any
slights
at
anybody.
That's
in
law
enforcement.
We
know
they're
doing
a
heck
of
a
job.
W
This
size
communities
are
typically
driven
primarily
by
government
and
medical
here.
It's
not
that
case,
and
we
all
know
we
have
that
strength
that
we
have
some
very
large,
successful
companies
in
town.
They
like
that
the
availability
and
cost
of
electrical
natural
gas
and
water
y'all
know
we've
got
great
partners
both
in
what
they
bring
to
the
table
and
product
and
price,
but
also
in
helping
us
on
economic
development
in
Georgia,
Powell
or
Liberty
gas.
W
Columbus
waterworks
does
a
great
job
and
those
are
all
really
positive
things
for
us
when
we're
talking
to
clients
an
interesting
and
vital
downtown
again,
y'all
know
all
these
positive
things.
These
are
the
things
that
we've
been
building
in
Columbus
for
the
last
20
years
and
they
recognize
all
of
them
and
they
hold
them
and
I
think
to
a
person.
They
looked
at
it
and
said
gosh.
W
We,
we
sort
of
have
heard
some
things,
but
we
had
no
idea
that
your
downtown
was
as
vital
as
this
and
that
the
river
was
as
cool
as
it
is,
and
those
are
things
that
we
can
really
use
to
sell
your
community.
So
we're
looking
at
trying
to
get
that
narrative
out
there
a
little
more
as
well.
They
did
mention
the
affordable,
downtown
living
the
CSU,
all
they
bring
to
the
table
and
then
Fort
Benning
as
a
supplier
of
talent,
both
with
trailing
wives
and
exiting
veterans
that
I
think
that
is
a
real
asset.
W
When
people
are
looking
to
try
to
find
again
that
the
biggest
question
for
most
companies
looking
to
relocate
is,
can
I
hire
the
right.
People
want
to
get
there
and
Fort
Benning
provides
a
great
opportunity
for
us
in
there.
Well,
we
talked
about
the
the
property
that
we
have
not
being
as
readily
available.
W
What
kind
of
cost
is
going
to
be
if
there
are
any
water
mitigation
issues,
and
so
we
get
much
further
down
the
road
whereas
before,
if
we
brought
people
in-
and
we
said
hey,
we
got
a
forty
acre
site
here
and
we
think
it's
going
to
cost
about
this
much
and
take
about
this
long
to
get
it
ready
for
you
to
put
a
pad
on.
That
was
the
reason
for
them
to
walk
away,
and
it's
been,
we've
had
to
spend
some
money
to
get
this
information.
W
But
again
the
message
to
us
was:
if
you
don't
have
that
information
available,
this
business
is
getting
much
more
competitive.
People
of
getting
pad
ready
sites
available
before
clients
come
see
them
and
you've
got
to
step
up
your
game.
If
you
want
to
have
this
as
a
selling
point,
it's
a
great
piece
of
property-
and
you
know,
we've
just
gotten
along
with
again
the
work
with
the
city
and
the
d-o-t
to
get
this
road
all
the
way
through
the
park.
W
So
now
we
have
better
access
to
all
those
properties,
and
so
it
was
a
good
time
to
sort
of
relook.
At
this
whole
thing
would
redrew
some
lines
on
the
lights,
to
avoid
some
mitigation
issues,
and
we
think
we've
got
a
much
better
piece
of
information
to
provide
to
potential
prospects
when
they
show
up.
W
This
is
a
another
thing
we're
doing
to
to
make
ourselves
better.
Our
website
has
been
a
sort
of
a
traditional
website.
It
was
not
as
robust
as
it
needed
to
be
for
people
looking
to
get
good
data
about
our
city
and
about
our
workforce
and
about
our
community,
and
so
we
have
recently
built
a
Columbus
torches,
Columbus
Georgia
calm,
which
has
this
what
they
call
geographic
information
system
which
provides
constant.
W
They
updated
the
latest
and
greatest
data
on
our
city,
which
is
what
people
want
most
of
the
time
when
prospects
start
looking
for
a
city,
we
never
know
it
and
we
get.
We
often
get
cut
because
you
they
can't
find
the
information
that
they
want,
or
they
find
information
and
narratives
that
they
don't
like
so
part
of
what
this
is
designed
to
do
is
sort
of
like
the
playbook
on
the
land.
W
This
is
to
provide
data
forum
that
will
allow
them
to
make
an
assessment,
and
hopefully,
a
positive
assessment
that
then
gets
us
into
the
verbal
discussions
and
gets
them
down
here
to
visit
us
after
that.
So
those
are
things
that
we
are
currently
working
on.
One
more
the
development
authority,
business
I
think
is
changing
a
little
bit.
W
The
whole
idea
of
what
I
call
well
hunting,
which
is
going
out
and
trying
to
find
other
companies
that
are
located
elsewhere
and
getting
them
to
pack
up
their
stuff
and
move
to
your
community
for
some
incentives
that
business
is
getting
more
and
more
competitive
and
in
some
ways
I
think
more
and
more
old-school.
I
think
what
the
the
most
aggressive
development
authorities
are
doing
is
a
is
broadening
their
lanes
and
looking
at
how
you
do
economic
development
in
other
ways.
W
That's
how
do
you
support
entrepreneur,
ISM
and
I
think
that's
part
of
our
Columbus
2025
process,
but
these
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
are
currently
working
on.
I'll
save
the
first
one.
For
last
we
have
had
a
discussion
on
this
idea
of
a
film
fund.
We
had
meetings
last
week
where
we
met
with
the
Georgia
Film
Academy.
We
met
with
the
Commission
Visitors
Bureau,
the
local
Film
Commission,
and
a
lot
of
people
from
the
community.
The
Georgia
Film
Academy
has
an
idea.
W
But
it's
more
costly
personnel,
further
away
from
metro
Atlanta,
where
there's
not
quote-unquote
a
hub
of
workers
and
so
we're
looking
at
possibly
doing
that
that
we
think
that
could
be
sort
of
the
creation
of
a
whole
new
industry
for
our
community.
The
convention
hotel,
you
all
know
we
went
through
the
convention.
Hotel
had
some
legal
issues
with
doing
it
last
time
we
think
we've
got
all
that
cleared
up
and
we
are
getting
in
we're
in
the
process
of
going
back
out
now,
we've
been
meeting
with
the
Convention
and
Visitors
Bureau
the
trade
center
staff.
W
We
still
think
there
is
a
real
need
for
if
we
want
to
fully
utilize
the
trade
center,
we've
got
to
have
more
blocked
room
availability,
and
so
we
are
going
back
out
with
that
proposal
again
and
and
we'll
be
working
that
process
over
the
coming
months,
we've
been
asked
to
assist
in
city
village,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
I
think
again,
development
authorities.
How
do
you
do
economic
development
differently?
W
You
may
have
to
do
it
on
a
smaller
scale
in
some
ways,
and
that
becomes
more,
hopefully,
sustainable,
and
so
we're
going
to
serve
some
role
in
helping
with
the
city,
village,
project
and
I.
Think
that's
an
interesting
thing
for
us
too,
to
be
involved
with
the
robotics
at
Fort
Benning.
We
recently
had
conversations
with
both
the
CG
and
the
head
of
infantry,
the
one
star
and
the
head
of
infantry
there's
been
a
lot
of
interesting
things
happening
in
the
army.
W
We're
purchasing
authority
has
flowed
sort
of
outside
of
Washington
and
Fort
Benning
doing
all
the
testing
for
things.
Infantry
has
a
huge
interest
in
robotics
and
so
they've
got
a
real
excitement
about
the
possibilities
of
what
we
could
become
in
Columbus
in
the
robotics
world,
and
so
we're
actively
working
with
them.
W
Maybe
something
like
Huntsville
is
done.
We
think
there's
some
opportunities
there
long-term.
So
those
are
some
things
we're
trying
to
do
to
sort
of
improve
our
performance
again,
we
think
we've
got
some
great
staff,
people
doing
some
good
day-to-day
work,
but
the
world
is
changing
a
little
bit
and
we've
got
to
figure
out
how
to
change
with
it,
and
so
we're
actually
trying
to
do
that
without
any
further
questions.
That
would
conclude
my
report
mayor,
thank
y'all
for
having
us
right.
P
Mr.
carica,
if
you
would,
as
you
were
talking,
one
of
the
things
that
occurred
to
me,
as
you
were
talking
about
the
workforce
needs
I,
know
that
the
school
district
is
very
actively
trying
to
provide
some
of
the
opportunities
that
our
students
need
in
order
to
step
into
the
workplace.
I
would
like
to
ask
you
and
the
and
the
members
of
the
authority
to
think
about
whether
or
not
we
might
need
to
appoint
an
ex
officio
member
from
the
school
district.
P
W
P
P
W
B
T
Here
my
voice
is
leaving
so
bare
with
me.
You
were
speaking
of
unique
opportunities
and
robotics
and
everything
are
there
opportunities
since
Fort
Benning
is
so
close
to
councillor
Woodsen's
district.
In
my
district
on
the
south
side,
are
there
any
opportunities
for
the
south
side
of
Columbus
to
be
involved
in
maybe
some
of
the
robotics
or
some
opportunities
that
you
have
coming
up.
W
Startup
companies
they're
not
necessarily
the
fortune
500
defense
contractors,
and
so
we
may
end
up
doing
some
things
out
there,
like
co-working
space
facilities
or
something
that
allows
smaller
companies
to
move
to
Columbus
from
wherever
they're
at
and
that's
how
the
industry
gets
started.
I,
don't
know
that
it's
bringing
the
massive
companies
here,
but
certainly
that
facility,
the
the
Benning
Technology
Park,
would
be
the
ideal
landing
spot
for
these
companies
that
they
would
want
to
be
as
close
to
Fort
Benning
as
possible.
So
absolutely
okay,.
J
J
B
T
B
W
W
F
And
did
the
Russel
Honore
about
you
to
try
not
to
duplicate
services
through
the
work
of
syndrich
of
Lakes
and
the
talents,
educated
people
subgroup
of
close
to
125?
We
have
a
coordinator
group
between
Columbus
Tech,
Phoenix
city,
school
systems,
Goga
school
system,
Harris,
County
school
system,
all
of
those
working
together
to
make
sure
we've
got
career
pathway.
Discussions
make
sure
we've
got
career,
credential
discussion.
So
there
is
a
connectivity
between
all
three
of
those
entities,
really
all
reasonable
entities
to
make
sure
we
one
know
the
jobs
are
going
to
be
of
the
future.
F
Why
are
we
not
filling
them
and
then
what's
it,
gonna
take
to
get
both
existing
people
who
are
not
in
the
workforce
trained
up,
but
also
that
pipeline
being
strong
enough
to
so
all
of
that
is
connected,
it's
not
where
we
want
it,
but
the
first
goal
of
Comus
2025
is
to
create
that
that
consortium
of
all
those
people
working
together
and
understanding
each
other's
needs.
Okay,.
R
F
F
R
B
All
right,
that's
it
Russ
fine!
Thank
you!
So
much
so
impressive.
We
were
talking
to
some
consultants
yesterday
that
we're
assessing
our
community
on
various
things
and
Columbus.
2025
is
a
really
progressive,
forward-thinking
way
to
look
at
economic
development
addressing
poverty,
and
we
have
to
remember
that
a
lot
of
things
we
talk
about
with
workforce
with
crime
relate
back
to
poverty
and
cities
across
the
country
have
allowed
these
blighted
areas
to
arise
back
in
the
70s
and
80s,
and
it's
going
to
take.
B
F
Question
about
the
South
area
we
are
looking
with
our
new
website
and
working
with
Georgie
is
down
we're
going
to
try
to
look
for
fifty
to
a
hundred
acre
areas
that
may
be
redevelopment
or
may
just
be
empty,
and
then
we
can
come
back
to
you
all
say
that
maybe
there's
a
chance
for
another,
smaller
business
park
or
even
just
an
isolated
parcel.
That's
the
way
you
can
take
jobs
and
expansion
to
where
people
live
rather
than
everybody
have
to
transport
out
to
other
areas.
So
we
are
looking
at
that
as
well.
B
F
There
will
be
an
annual
meeting
in
February
as
through
the
implementation
committee,
commit
finishes
its
work
this
week.
Actually
tomorrow,
Thursday
and
then
I'm
meeting
with
you
all
one
on
one
message:
I'm
calling
you
for
meetings
to
make
sure
I
get
your
input
and
then
we
will
come
starting
in
2018,
we'll
come
to
you
at
least
quarterly
or
trimester.
To
give
you
a
regular
update
as
the
progress
will
be
made.
I'm.
B
X
X
As
of
yesterday,
we
had
47
hundred
active
Appeals,
so
that
number
continues
to
dwindle
down
that
6.7
percent
of
the
taxable
parcels
here
in
the
county
and
represents
1.4
percent
value
in
dispute,
which
we've
gone
over
numerous
times
of
the
forty
seven
hundred.
Of
course,
all
of
them
have
been
reviewed,
1836
or
thirty.
X
Nine
percent
of
those
were
recommended
or
are
recommended
for
reduction
in
the
value
that
we
originally
had
on
we've,
eighteen
hundred
and
twelve
of
those
or
thirty,
eight
percent
were
recommended
as
no
change
to
the
value
we
had
on
them
in
our
assessment
and
that
big
number
in
the
middle
eighty,
seven,
eighty
nine,
those
are
the
notices
of
assessment
that
represent
that
change.
So
I
call
it
a
change
letter.
It's
a
30-day
letter.
It's
actually
an
additional
notice
of
assessment.
X
One
thousand
forty
two
appeals
have
been
certified
to
the
BOE
and,
as
I've
told
you
before
those
meetings,
the
hearings
are
scheduled
by
the
appeal
administrator
that
works
for
the
spirit,
Clerk
spirit
Court.
We
are
in
the
third
week
of
bo
YZ
residential
started
yesterday.
So
the
first
two
weeks
for
commercial
hearings,
residential
started
yesterday
and
we've
got
two
weeks
of
residential
hearings
scheduled.
We
still
anticipate
those
BOE
hearings
lasting
into
April
of
2018
for
the
commercial
hearings
we
heard
yesterday
I'm
sorry,
the
last
two
weeks.
X
Seventy
three
or
thirty-five
percent
of
those
were
no-shows
that
simply
did
not
show
up
for
the
meeting.
Twenty
percent
of
those
were
rescheduled.
Twelve
percent
of
those
were
withdrawn.
Four
percent
of
those
were
actually
reduced
where
the
BOE
had
reduced
the
value
that
we
presented
and
either
got
close
to
the
taxpayers
value
or
somewhere
in
between
15
of
those
accepted
our
value
that
7%
and
then
we
had
22%
or
47
of
those
were
negotiated.
X
Today
of
those
39
of
them
were
negotiated
prior
to
the
meeting,
so
that
was
representative
reduction.
We
had
one
no-show
yesterday,
eight,
the
remaining
22
of
those
were
tax
payer
values.
The
tax
payer
got
their
value
in
the
remaining
18,
where
some
type
of
negotiated
value
between
our
value
and
the
tax
payer
value.
So
we
continue
with
those
residential
hearings
today
and
we
will
the
rest
of
the
week
and
into
next
week
and
then
that'll
be
the
end
of
our
hearings
for
the
year
and
we'll
pick
them
up
in
January.
P
X
The
30
that
were
scheduled
for
yesterday
in
their
30
every
day,
so
the
30
that
were
scheduled
for
yesterday
nine
of
them
were
negotiated
prior
to
the
hearing.
So
we
it's
a
waiver
in
release
form
as
a
formal
document
name,
but
it
just
represents
a
negotiation
between
our
staff
and
the
taxpayer.
One
of
those
actually
did
not
show
and
of
the
remaining
22
of
them
were
the
taxpayers
value.
The
board
ruled
in
favor
the
taxpayers
value
specifically,
and
the
other
18
were
some
value
between
our
value
and
the
taxpayers.
Bag.
U
Williams,
thank
you
for
being
here
with
us.
You've
been
so
kind
over
times,
like
every
council
meeting
you've
been
here
and
given
an
update
and
I'm
I,
just
throw
this
out
for
consideration
of
my
colleagues.
Maybe
at
this
point
it
sounds
like
you've
gotten
to
a
point
where
pretty
much.
What
we
see
is
what
we're
going
to
hear
from
here
on
out
and
maybe
a
monthly
report
might
be
better
than
every
council
meeting.
U
B
Objection
to
councilor
Davis's
proposal
that
we
have
monthly
written
reports
unless,
of
course,
a
council
can
always
simply
email
either
me
since
it's
on
my
agenda
or
the
city
manager
and
asked
that
John
appear.
Is
there
any
objection
to
a
monthly
written
report?
Okay,
it
sounds
like
that's
the
new
way
to
proceed.
Then.
If
anybody
has
any
questions,
we
know
where
to
find
you
and.
J
B
Y
Right
Thank,
You
mayor,
we
appreciate
y'all's
patient
system
wearing
the
applicants.
The
first
one
up
is
property
at
twenty-five.
Ninety-One
double
churches,
Road,
it's
going
from
single-family
one
to
residential
office
for
adult
special
needs
facility.
It's
recommended
for
conditional
approval.
It's
Easter,
Seals
petition
is
the
applicant
here
all
right.
Are
there
any
questions
around
the
council
table
for
the
applicant?
Y
Y
Y
B
Y
B
Not
the
way,
remember
the
last
time
we
had
this
discussion
and
I
said:
I
said:
if
they're
not
here,
then
we
delay
it
and
everybody
said:
oh,
no.
We
never
heard
of
that
for
in
our
lives.
That's
not
the
way.
We've
ever
done
it
ever
since
the
beginning
of
time.
Remember
that
maybe
so
I
mean
we
need
to
just
come
up
with
a
system.
That's
all
I'm
saying
because
it
looks
arbitrary
when
we
delay
some
people's
first
readings
and
we
don't
delay
other
people's
first
readings.
So,
let's
not.
Y
B
Mr.
City
Attorney
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
come
up
with
whether
or
not
we
continue
them
just
because
people
aren't
here
without
any
other
stated
reason
or
we
don't
continue
them,
because
otherwise
I
mean
somebody.
These
are
things
that
are
litigated
these
these
zonings
and
and
and
somebody's
going
to
contend,
they're
being
arbitrarily
treated
well.
B
H
Y
B
R
R
B
R
Y
B
S
S
B
B
Y
Y
B
V
B
B
Okay,
we've
got
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
items:
a
through
f
those
are
the
Muscogee
County
Jail
kitchen
floor
refurbishment,
the
Fort
Benning
Road
streetscapes
the
watershed
fertilization,
which
is
an
annual
contract.
We
have
the
HVAC
for
Cooper
Creek
concessions,
building
the
bulk
mail
services,
annual
contract
telephone
equipment
and
licensing
for
s
IP
voice
upgrade.
Does
anybody
want
any
of
those
pulled
for
discussion?
A
please
okay,
so
we'll
go
forward
on
the
motion?
J
V
V
Therefore,
the
value
engineering
process
will
be
used
in
an
attempt
to
lower
the
cost.
We
have
that
discussion
with
you
about
that
in
initially
we
did
not
we're
not
going
to
proceed
with
it,
and
then
we
had
discussion
and
we
told
you
that
it
was
included
in
another
construction
contract
beer
that
was
going
out.
V
The
work
includes
HVAC
electrical
and
communication
work
and
then
we're
also
asking
for
approval
to
use
additional
funds
from
holas
contingency
in
the
amount
of
eighty
nine
thousand
forty
five
dollars
to
cover
the
balance
of
the
jail
kitchen
floor
project,
because
that
is
going
to
we're
going
to
use
the
mobile
kitchen
longer
than
anticipated.
So
all
of
that
is
included
in
this
construction
contract,
as
we
have
had
previous
discussion
about
it
to
make
sure
that
we
included
some
of
those
things
that
you
want
it
to
include,
such
as
Imre
quarters
cool.
P
V
P
Z
V
J
K
P
That
we
had
talked
about
when
judge
hunter
and
mr.
loved
were
here
about
the
restroom
and
the
teller
windows
and
so
forth.
But
this
also
is
something
I
think
that
it's
very
necessary
to
augment
that
recorders,
court
facilities
and
as
I
look
at
this
the
the
money.
This
is
in
the
FY
18
budget
special
projects
budget
is
that
a
correct
statement
is.
K
K
V
J
B
B
T
T
Z
V
You
and
and
I
appreciate
that
question
too
councillor
Huff,
because
when
the
Muscogee
County
school
district
project
is
complete
and
we
do
the
streetscapes
and
roundabouts,
where
we'll
land
Brennan
Road,
with
what
Benning
Road
it's
going
to
bring
a
new
look
and
it's
going
to
be
the
game
changer
for
that
area,
we
will
continue
to
work
to
clean
up
Brennan
Road,
but
it
is
it's
really
going
to
be
a
remaking
of
that
area,
something
that
we
can
all
be
proud
of.
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
I've
got
an
update.
V
V
Of
course
we
know
that
Monday,
the
December
25th
is
Christmas
Day
and
we
are
also
closed.
The
government
center
we're
closed
Christmas,
Day,
Monday,
December
25th,
we're
also
closed
Tuesday,
December,
26
and
so
Monday's
garbage
collection,
waste
collection,
recycling,
while
Monday
pickup
will
be
on
Wednesday
that
December
27th,
so
Christmas
Day.
We
will
not
be
collecting
on
Monday.
We
will
collect
those
who
would
normally
get
their
garbage
collected
on
Monday
the
Wednesday
following
Christmas
Monday's
pickup
will
slide
to
Wednesday.
There
will
be
no
change.
V
V
V
B
E
You
so
much
for
having
us
here
today
and
quickly,
just
going
over
our
review
again.
This
year
we
came
and
did
a
presentation
in
August
with
visit
Columbus
with
Peter
Bowden.
We
do
have
some
members
of
our
staff
here,
David
Boyd,
who
is
our
Event
Manager
with
a
Sports
Council,
does
a
great
job
with
us.
Christina
Stansbury
is
also
here
with
our
staff
she's
an
event
coordinator.
We
have
Judy
Pierce
who
serves
on
our
board.
We
can't
thank
our
board
enough,
the
support
that
they
give
us,
and
then
we
have
Becky
glisten.
E
She
serves
as
an
ex-officio
on
our
board
and
we
do
have
a
couple
of
guests
with
us
today,
Don
Schumacher
who's
going
to
come
up
and
give
a
facility
report
for
us.
He
is
the
founding
person
for
the
National
Association
of
Sports
Commission.
So
we're
very
lucky
to
have
him
here
in
Columbus
to
give
us
a
report
as
well
as
Alda.
Tola
now
is
USA
softball
of
Georgia.
He
is
the
commissioner,
and
so
we're
gonna
give
you
some
updates
on
what's
kind
of
going
on
in
softball
just
real
quickly.
E
Over
five
years,
we've
brought
in
roughly
82
million
dollars
an
estimated
impact
from
the
sporting
events
that
are
hosted
here
in
Columbus
in
FY
2017.
We
did
see
a
slight
increase,
so
we're
roughly
seventeen
point
nine
million
from
this
last
fiscal
year
and
we
did
see
a
couple
of
reductions
and
we
see
2.6
million
in
reductions
and
those
were
events
that
were
either
canceled
because
of
weather
or
because
they
may
have
been
rotated
to
other
parts
of
the
state
or
even
country.
E
So
you
see
70
percent
of
the
hotel-motel
tax
dollars
that
we
received
is
reinvested
back
into
our
community
and
our
return
on
investment.
$1.43.
This
past
fiscal
year
we
hosted
89
events
and
promoted
total
250
events,
and
some
of
those
events
could
be
things
that
were
promoting
better
happening
in
the
community.
They
may
not
be
bringing
a
lot
of
people
into
the
city,
but
they
are
sporting
events
that
are
happening,
so
we
try
to
promote
those
as
well.
E
These
are
our
top
five
venues
for
the
sporting
events
that
happen
here
in
the
city
you
see
self
common
Softball
Complex
is
over
4.9
million
dollars.
The
Columbus
Civic
Center
is
over
1.9
million
dollars,
Ajay
Macomb
Memorial
Stadium,
over
1.8
million.
Would
your
Farm
Soccer
Complex
over
2.3
million
and
the
course
could
recruit
Tennis
Center
over
1.3
million
dollars,
the
age
demographics
of
the
events
that
we're
recruiting
and
bringing
into
the
city
you
see
our
18
and
under
sports
are
over
42
percent.
The
collegiate
events
that
are
coming
in
or
over
25
percent.
E
Our
adults
are
seventeen
point:
nine
seven
percent
and
the
multi
age.
Events
that
bring
in
a
wide
range
of
different
participants
is
13.5
percent.
The
additional
events
that
we
supported.
You
see
the
age
demographics
broken
out
there.
Thirty
four
point:
eight
percent
for
the
18
and
under
and
the
multi
age
sports.
Twenty
two
point:
eight
percent.
E
So
we
try
to
focus
on
our
youth
and
collegiate
groups,
because
we
do
realize
that
those
are
the
groups
that
are
going
to
bring
in
more
family
members,
especially
our
young,
younger
ages,
the
participant
brew
nights,
and
these
are
the
people
who
are
going
to
be
staining
our
hotels.
We
do
not
track
necessarily
all
these
spectators
who
come
into
the
events,
but
we
do
question
our
actual
athletes
and
where
they're
saying
the
broom
nights
for
this
past
fiscal
year
was
over
32,000
room
nights.
E
E
We
learn
a
lot
from
him
and
have
for
several
years
he's
been
a
great
friend
of
Columbus
and
we
can't
be
more
excited
to
introduce
you
to
him
he's
going
to
come
up
and
give
a
report
on
kind
of
what
he
found
when
he
came
here
for
a
visit
over
the
summer
and
looked
at
some
of
our
facilities.
So
I'd
like
to
bring
you
up.
AA
There
City
Council,
Oh
city
manager,
Columbus,
has
a
special
place
in
my
heart:
I've
been
in
the
sport
travel
industry
since
1981,
but
hadn't
done
any
consulting
until
1995
when
the
phone
rang
in
Cincinnati,
and
this
fellow
introduced
himself
as
somebody
general
Keveza
and-
and
he
thought
maybe
it'd,
be
a
good
idea.
If
I
came
to
Columbus
and
talked
with
him
about
what
happens
after
the
Olympic
Games
in
1996,
and
he
also
told
me
while
I
was
down
here,
you
ought
to
do
more
of
this
and
since.
AB
AA
AA
We
did
a
situation
analysis
for
your
sports
facilities.
I
was
here
a
few
months
ago.
We
reviewed
your
key
venues.
We
talked
to
key
stakeholders
involved
in
this
very
important
effort
that
is
producing
the
kinds
of
results
that
Mary
just
covered.
We
did
some
competitive
research,
because
that
is
in
many
ways
the
heart
of
what
I've
got
to
say
to
you
in
the
next
very
few
minutes,
and
then,
of
course,
we
produce
to
report
on
findings
now
in
this
holiday
season.
AA
I
hope
you
will
not
think
of
me
after
today,
as
the
Grinch
who
stole
Christmas,
but
in
many
respects.
What
I
have
to
say
to
you
now
is
is
sobering
news
that
came
that
has
come
as
a
result
of
twenty
years
of
success
here
and
perhaps
not
20
years
of
the
same
level
of
maintenance,
South
Commons,
softball
fields
are
badly
in
need
of
upgrades
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
everything
it's
all
covered
in
the
report.
AA
There's
no
point,
plus
you
have
very
dedicated
city
employees
who
know
perfectly
well
what
the
real
issues
are
at
South,
Commons,
RG
Jones
field
is
deteriorating.
The
playing
field
even
is
not
in
particularly
good
shape
and
needs.
Regrading
golden
Park
has
more
issues
than
opportunities
unless
you
end
up
with
another
minor
league
team
that
is
willing
to
pay
to
bring
it
up.
The
snuff,
if
it
were
me,
I,
would
remove
most
of
the
infrastructure
from
around
the
field.
AA
Just
have
a
few
bleachers
and
maintain
it
as
a
playing
field
for
residents
and
for
tournaments
that
you
there
are
really
some
serious
issues
there
would
with
field.
Soccer
Complex
is
very
important
to
the
Columbus
sports
councils
performance
every
year.
The
fields
up
by
the
main
road
are
in
pretty
good
shape,
but
the
irrigation
isn't
working
on
the
fields
back
toward
the
back
of
the
property,
and
there
are
no
sessions
or
restrooms
whatsoever
back
there
and
in
a
very
competitive
industry,
sport,
tourism.
AA
AA
A
significant
amount
of
work
needs
to
be
done
to
bring
it
back
to
shape
and
I'm
going
to
show
you
some
photographs
and
I'm
sure
after
you
see
it,
you'll
understand
what
I
mean
in
the
upgrades
that
are
necessary
to
host
a
potential
game
between
our
Team
USA
and
another
competitor
are
needed
for
all
the
other
events
that
take
place
there.
It's
not
a
single
function
and
more
than
that,
your
competition
is
much
greater,
much
stronger,
much
more
able
now
than
they
were
back
in
the
mid
90s.
AA
You
should,
though,
know
this,
and
this
will
be
true
through
2028,
now
that
Columbus
Georgia
remains
the
only
city
in
the
United
States
that
has
ever
hosted
Olympic
fast
pitch
competition.
Nobody
else
can
say
that
you're,
the
only
city
in
the
United
States.
So
if
I
make
comments
about
RG
Jones
field,
that
point
out
the
need
to
fix
it,
it's
because
you've
got
a
heritage
that
nobody
else
has
got,
and
most
of
us
are
competitive
and
we're
going
to
go
with.
AA
What
brings
us
the
most
results,
and
you
have
been
one
of
the
undisputed
leaders
in
girls
fastpitch,
a
sport
which
continues
to
grow.
It
is
not
a
sport
like
softball
for
slowpitch.
That
is
slowly
going,
there's
still
a
lot
of
people
playing
slow
pitch,
but
it's
not
it's
not
experiencing
the
decline.
Fastpitch
is
a
growth
industry,
but
let's
look
at
some
pictures.
AA
The
tank
farm
by
the
way
is
one
of
the
most
unattractive
things
that
somebody
would
see
coming
in
to
see
the
Olympic
team
play
softball
now
I
can
I
will
confess
to
you
and
I'm
very
familiar
with
some
of
the
things
that
happen
with
buildings
in
this
part
of
the
United
States,
that
is
to
say,
it's
not
uncommon,
to
see
black
staining
from
time
to
time.
You're
gonna
find
it
on
concrete,
brick
and
so
forth
because
of
the
high
humidity.
AA
If
there's
a
forester
present,
they
need
to
close
their
ears
because
what
needs
to
happen
to
those
glorious
trees
at
South
Commons
is
they
need
to
be
pruned
way
back
and
some
of
them
even
taken
out,
maybe
every
other
tree
taken
out,
because
not
only
do
you
have
these
problems
with
the
sidewalk
and
you
see
the
staining
and
all
at
the
ticket
window,
but
you'll
see
in
just
a
minute.
Grass
won't
grow
anymore.
AA
AA
Those
field
corners
are
in
shade
all
year
and
the
grass
won't
grow
there
or
any
longer,
and
that
is
part
of
the
field
of
play
and
it
would
rough.
The
first
couple
of
pictures
are
the
fields
up
by
the
road
they're
in
they're,
in
pretty
good
shape
and
Woodruff
has
11
fields,
that's
really
a
good
number
for
hosting
midsize
tournaments,
and
this
is
a
tremendous
asset
to
your
community
and
one
that
you
really
want
to
take
good
care
of.
But
it's
when
you
get
back
to
the
back
of
the
property
in
that
picture.
AA
Both
these
pictures
are
toward
the
back.
When
you
ask
people
to
walk
back
there
and
it's
how
many
hundred
yards
maybe
yards
back
to
those
fields,
you're
walking
that
far
away
from
concessions
and
you're
walking
that
far
away
from
permanent
restrooms
and
what's
done
is
porta.
Lots
are
put
back
there
and
again
in
a
competitive
industry.
You're
now
asking
people
to
play
soccer
in
a
place
where
they
have
to
use
porta.
Let's
over
more
sanitary
facilities,
and/or
take
a
long
walk
to
get
to
concessions.
AA
These
are
things
that
some
cities
don't
have
to
worry
about,
but
you
do
a
couple
more
pictures
of
Woodruff
farms.
We
go
onto
Cooper
Creek,
Tennis
Center,
which
was
named
by
the
United
States
Tennis
Association,
one
of
their
facilities
of
the
year,
the
new
part,
but
you
have
53
old
tennis
courts
there
that
need
help.
AA
Now
the
whole
park
needs
attention,
but
those
53
tennis,
you've
got
53
and
15
I
think
isn't
that
the
phone
eight
quarts
war
less
in
one
place
and
Rome
Georgia,
made
a
big
fuss
last
year
about
the
fact
that
they
just
opened
50
I
mean
they
made
a
big
fuss
nationally.
You've
got
more
courts
than
that.
The
difference
is,
yours
are
not
in
the
same
condition:
there's
our
but
you're
in
a
lot
more
pleasant
place.
Don't
tell
them.
AA
But
what
are
the
competitive
issues,
and
in
this
is
a
if
you
looked
at
Mary's
numbers
and
I
know
you
did
I,
don't
mean
that
you
didn't
you.
When
you
looked
at
Marie's
numbers,
you
realize
this
is
an
economic
development
issue.
This
is
not
kids
fooling
around.
This
is
not
adults
coming
and
drinking
beer
and
not
accomplishing
anything
of
value.
Sport
tourism
is
an
economic
development
issue.
AA
In
1995,
there
were
very
few
South
Commons
in
the
southeastern
United
States,
but
today,
in
Georgia
alone,
there
are
15
other
cities
competing
with
you
for
events,
ground
zero
for
the
sport,
tourism
industries,
the
southeastern
states
in
the
United
States.
You
have
the
best
climate,
the
best
growing
conditions,
the
most
favorable
conditions
for
competition
anywhere
in
the
United
States.
So
this
is
the
key
area.
The
Midwest
is
second
but
trails.
AA
You
significantly
because
of
our
weather
issues
and
what's
happened
is
you've
got
cities
Columbia
Tennessee
you
who
have
six
outstanding
fastpitch
fields
in
Dothan,
Alabama
has
14
and
they
look
like
a
major
league
baseball
park
each
one
of
them.
They
are
in
fantastic
condition.
Now,
whether
they're
going
to
be
in
fantastic
condition,
20
years
from
now
is
another
issue
entirely,
but
part
of
my
job
is
to
point
out
that
you've
been
a
leader
in
in
order
to
stay
a
leader.
AA
You
need
to
address
some
of
these
issues
and
get
them
resolved,
because
competition
is
out
there-
that's
very
happily,
standing
by
to
pick
up
state
championship
events
that
you
might
have
had
for
a
long
time
or
events
that
organizations
like
us,
a
softball
who
are
the
national
governing
body
of
the
sport
have
been
seen
to
have
here
fact
we
have
a
representative
in
the
room.
The
gentleman
who
is
the
representative
for
the
state
of
Georgia.
For
us,
a
softball
and
they're
the
ones
are
gonna
decide
whether
the
team
comes
here
prior
to
the
2020
games.
AA
So
substantial
refurbishment
sar
needed
at
south
commons,
RG,
Jones
and
Woodruff
golden
Park
needs
a
team
and
by
the
way,
I,
don't
I,
hope
I'm,
not
putting
my
foot
in
my
mouth
here,
but
I'm,
not
a
proponent
of
minor
league
baseball
as
a
driver
of
economic
development.
I,
don't
believe
minor
league
baseball
is
an
economic
issue.
I
think
it's
a
quality
of
life
issue
and
if
you
have
a
team,
it's
it's
it's
wonderful,
but
it's
for
the
people
who
live
here
and
people
from
Atlanta
are
not
going
to
run
down
and
take
in
a
game.
AA
Cooper
Craig,
Tennis
Center
is
outstanding
that
the
older
courts
should
be
refurbished.
Columbus
State
University
has
done
a
tremendous
job.
The
best
fastpitch
field,
if
not
certainly
in
Columbus
Georgia
and
perhaps
in
the
state
of
Georgia,
is
on
campus
at
Columbus
State.
Today
and
in
conclusion,
let
me
tell
you
that
a
visit
to
Columbus
delivers
for
the
visitor,
and
that's
your
advantage
over
your
competition.
It's
fun
to
be
here.
You
heard
earlier
someone
talking
about
the
changes
downtown.
AA
Well,
you
know
that,
but
the
visitors
who
come
know
that
and
I
know
it
too,
because
I've
been
here
recently
and
in
fact,
the
last
time
I
was
here.
I
got
a
chance
to
see
the
infantry
museum.
I
had
never
seen
it
before.
That
is
a
promotable
feature,
a
fantastic
opportunity
for
young
people
and
their
parents
to
gain
an
appreciation
for
what
the
United
States
Army
and
its
infantry
means
to
our
country.
Plus
it's
just
a
knock.
You
out
quality
experience,
it's
just
fantastic.
B
Does
anybody
have
any
questions?
This
is,
as
you
know,
we
we
do
know
of
these
needs.
We
were
talking
earlier
related
to
a
new
building
and
talking
about
the
possibility
of
a
SPLOST
and
I
know.
As
long
as
I've
been
here
seven
years,
the
staff
and
some
others
have
been
talking
about
the
possibility
of
a
splice
to
refurbish
these
things.
We've
already
made
very
large
investments
in
so
I
suspect.
It
will
be
part
of
that
conversation
if
not
before
so
alright,
councillor
Davis
Thank.
U
U
That's
a
fact.
I
can
tell
you
in
our
business
that
sports
tourism
is
major
its
major
it's.
What
is
you
know?
It's
its
success
and
failure
in
our
business
and
I
know
that
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
competition
coming
into
the
state
now,
and
you
know
at
one
time
you
know
like
you
said
our
facilities
were
just
absolutely
phenomenal,
but
they've
trend.
It
down
now
and
people
have
watched
what
we've
done
over
the
years.
U
It's
just
the
way
it
is
very
limited
corporate,
but
sports
tourism
is,
is
key
to
making
things
happen
in
this
city.
I
mean
many
many
times.
I.
Don't
have
to
remind
my
colleagues
and
and
others
that
you
know
our
city
is
just
rockin
and
rollin
on
the
weekends
which
is
equates
to
success
for
everybody,
which
equates
to
the
movement
in
Uptown
and
what
we've
done
down
there.
It
just
provides
that
platform
keep
the
engine
going.
So
this
is
something
that
I
see
needs
to
be
addressed
soon.
U
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
really
wait,
because
once
somebody
comes
in
and
takes
what
you
have
now,
there's
probably
a
chance:
it's
not
coming
back.
That's
not
good
for
anybody,
so
I
think
we
need
to
be
on
guard.
If,
if
anything,
you
know
one
of
the
things
some
of
these
facilities,
I
saw
them
a
city
manager.
I
mean
we
could
make
a
difference
in
just
just
services
of
pressure-washing
and
dealing
with
a
lot
of
this
acid
rain
and
old
stuff
and
all
the
rest
of
the
stuff.
U
It
could
make
a
difference
in
appearance
just
right
there
and
that's
not
you,
know
very
costly
to
to
do
that.
But
you
know
I
see
our
facilities
day
by
day,
once
you
put
them
in
I
mean
eventually
you're
going
to
continue
to
upkeep
and
maintainable.
We've
been
all
have
talked
about
this
during
the
budget
sessions,
capital
replacement
and
and
how
we
balance
the
budgets
over
the
last
several
years,
and
you
know
these
things
are
not
getting
any
any
better
newer
or
shinier
they're
actually
continue
to
go
down.
U
So,
like
the
mayor
said
I,
you
know
this
is
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed
soon.
If
not
the
you
know,
an
issue
for
the
next
administration
coming
in
they're
gonna
have
to
address
so
I
appreciate
you
coming
and
sharing
that
with
us.
You're,
like
I,
said
you're
dead,
accurate,
you're,
you're
spot-on.
So
thank
you
for
being
there.
Thank
you
for
all
you've
done
for
our
community
over
the
years,
including
back
when
you
had
your
meetings
with
general
cabeza.
U
T
You
all
for
being
here
the
Sports
Council
in
Parks
and
Rec
I,
just
always
so
kind
to
me.
They
invited
me
out
to
many
events
and
I
had
an
opportunity
last
year,
not
this
year
but
last
year
to
throw
out
the
first
pitch
for
the
softball
competition,
and
there
were
many
many
people
there
chomping
at
the
bit
to
try
to
get
in
people's
ears
and
talk
to
everybody
about
getting
these
games
this
tournament
to
move,
and
there
are
things
that
we
need
to
do.
We
talked
about
the
scoreboard.
T
We
talked
about
the
fields
and
things
so
if
the
public
has
not
been
like
they
should
and
if
Council
has
not
been
to
see,
we
all
need
to
come
and
see
because
we
have
such
a
jewel
and
when
these
numbers
come
across,
like
they
did
today.
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
hard
work
to
get
these
tournaments
and
get
these
people
here,
and
it's
been.
T
T
And
it's
it's
amazing
that
the
people
come
in
from
all
over
town,
all
over
the
state
and
they're
interested
in
Columbus,
and
they
have
explained
to
me
and
the
women's
softball
girls
softball
and
the
cheerleading
competition
that
the
girls
tend
to
come
in
and
spend
more
money
than
the
boys
do.
So
we
don't
want
to
lose
any
of
that
here.
T
So
I'm,
along
with
law,
councilor,
Davis
and
the
rest
of
the
council
here
for
us
to
take
a
look
at
things
and
see
if
we
can't
get
to
moving
in
a
hurry,
because
for
my
participation
and
looking
and
listening
at
other
people
tried
to
court
and
get
in
other's
ears,
you
know
that
we
have
a
new
facility.
We
have
this.
We
have
that
we
want
to
move
this
tournament
and
we
need
to
move
now.
So
we
can
keep
what
we
have
and
not
be
sitting
back
next
year
saying
we
wish.
P
Two
things
one
is
I
want
to
encourage
the
Sports
Council
and
the
Parks
and
Rec
Department
and
everybody
else.
We
need
to
toot
our
horn
more
than
we
are.
There
are
lots
of
people
in
Columbus
who
have
no
idea
what
goes
on
at
the
soccer
fields
and
at
South
Commons
every
weekend
that
unless
you
have
folks
coming
into
town
and
need
a
hotel
room
and
you
can't
get
a
hotel
room
because
all
the
hotel
rooms
are
taken,
we
don't
do
enough
I
think
with
the
local
media
for
them
to
know.
P
What's
going
on
and
I,
don't
know
what
the
answer
to
that
is,
but
I'm
gonna
turn
over
to
Mary.
She
can
she
can
do
that,
but
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
do
whatever
it
takes
to
to
have
coverage
of.
What's
going
on
in
Columbus
regularly
people
say
to
me
all
the
time.
Well,
nobody
use
the
South
calmness.
Excuse
me
they
use
it
all
the
time
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
telling
that
story.
The
other
thing
that
I
would
the
city
manager
and
our
finance
folks
I
think
councillor.
P
Davis
is
right.
This
is
not
something
that
we
can
put
off
until
three
or
four
years
from
now.
We
have
some
opportunities,
I
think,
with
the
infrastructure
of
money
from
the
Oh
lost
that
we
could.
We
could
divert
some
of
the
money
that
we
are
currently
using.
Oh
lost
money
that
we're
currently
using
to
do
some
of
the
kinds
of
things.
The
infrastructure
that
we're
talking
about
here,
I
something
to
the
city
attorney
about
the
tea
splice,
money
and
I
know
tea.
P
P
We
have
taken
a
long-term
look
at
some
of
that
money,
but
maybe
it's
time
for
us
to
take
another
look
and
see
if
in
2018
2019,
we
don't
want
to
reprioritize
those
two
accounts
and
come
back
with
some
of
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
need,
because
if
we
do
we're
being
told
that,
with
all
of
the
other
things
in
Columbus,
that
will
continue
to
bring
money
into
Columbus
to
help
to
replenish
some
of
those
accounts.
So
mr.
city
manager,
I,
would
I
would
request
that.
P
V
Madam,
if
I
may
well
a
couple
of
things
that
we
are
going
to
be
bringing
to
you
early
in
a
new
year.
The
first
thing
we're
scheduled
to
bring
you
on
the
second
Tuesday
in
January
is
a
transportation
update
that
transportation
update
is
going
to
break
down
the
t-splines
discretionary
monies,
the
categories
that
you
approved,
that
you
would
want
us
to
fund
by
category
and
and
so
we'll
talk
about
resurfacing.
V
So
that's
coming
and
then
also
we
deputy
city
manager
Goodwin
over
the
last
year,
has
been
working
on
and/or
looking
at
parts
and
facilities
taking
a
comprehensive
look
and
doing
a
needs
assessment.
That
document
has
been
finalized
and
we
anticipate
bringing
that
to
present
to
you
share
with
you
early
in
the
new
year.
The
mayor
mentioned
other
opportunities
and
and
you'll
find
in
what
she
is
going
to
be.
Bringing
in
that
comprehensive,
look
and
looking
at
the
needs
of
ports
and
facilities
will
be
addressing
things
like
the
softball
complex.
V
Much
of
what
they've
talked
about
will
be
looking
at
golden
we've
taken.
A
look
at
that
lakebottom
would
reform
soccer,
complex
Cooper,
Creek,
Tennis,
Center
and
so
forth,
and
so
all
of
that
is
included,
counsel
Davis
in
that
comprehensive,
look
at
parts
and
facilities.
So
we'll
tell
you
exactly
the
condition,
the
situation
and
what
we
need
to
get
it
back
up
to
competitive
standard
that
we
don't.
You
lose
our
share
of
the
market
going
forward.
V
I
think
it
may
be
slightly
more
than
$300,000
and
when
we
start
looking
at
that
and
we
look
at
and
we
look
at
the
needs
in
the
government,
Center
and
other
buildings,
whether
they
be
replacing
roofs
and
so
forth,
that
money
goes
very
quickly,
but
those
small
things
that
maybe
they've
pointed
out
and
that
councilor
Davis
and
and
that
you
pointed
out
councillor
Thomas
that
we
can
go.
If
it's
pressure
washing
and
doing
some
minor
things,
we
can
do
those
things,
but
also
I
fail
to
mention
the
little
walk
is
included
in
that
needs.
Assessment.
V
I
mean
our
River
Walk
dates
back
to
1995,
I
mean
we've
got
benches
and
and
sculptures
and
erosion
issues
and
other
things
that
that's
included
in
that
needs
assessment.
So
all
of
those
things
you'll
get
to
hear
about
and
see
and
know
the
condition
when
we
come
back
to
you
early
in
18
and
that
document
deputy
city
manager,
Goodwin
has
already
finalized
it
and
they're
doing
some
tweaking
on
it,
but
but
you'll
you'll
get
that
firsthand,
but
the
smaller
things
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
handle
well.
P
And
I'm,
hoping
that
we'll
take
a
look,
and
maybe
not
it
might
not
be-
that
they'll
come
back
and
recommend
that
we
spend
this
money.
But
to
say
here
are
some
things
that
perhaps
you
want
to
think
about,
and
so
that
we
can
make
some
choices
about
where
we
go
with
those
kinds
of
things.
I
do
know
that
the
finance
department
and
Parks
and
Rec
they
do
this
on
a
daily
basis
and
know
much
more
accurately
than
I
do.
P
2018
redirect
it
not
redirect
it
forever,
I'm,
not
one
that
believes
that,
because
we've
always
done
it
this
way,
we
got
to
continue
to
do
it
this
way.
Maybe
we
can
redirect
it
for
until
we
can
get
some
of
these
issues
cleared
up
and
if
we
can
get
them
cleared
up
and
get
the
money
continue
to
roll
in.
You
know
that
that
gives
us
another
another
opportunity.
If
you
will
so
I
appreciate
that
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
those
reports,
see
that
you're
bringing
to
us
I
should
have
known
you
already
I'm.
Sorry
thank.
V
You
and
I
really
would
like
to
thank
Mira
Sherman
and
the
Sports
Council,
the
Columbus
convention,
Visitors
Bureau
and
Parks
and
Rec.
They
are
a
true
partnership
and
continue
to
work
together
to
do
great
things
for
Columbus.
So
this
is
an
excellent
report.
Excellent
update,
thank
you
for
what
you
continue
to
do
in
partnership
with
us.
AC
AC
We're
looking
at
the
spring
of
2020,
as
the
team
starts
its
tour
across
the
United
States
on
their
way
to
Japan,
to
put
together
a
program
where
they'll
play
a
couple
of
games,
maybe
against
the
college,
all-star
team,
etc
and,
of
course,
the
fact
that
we
want
to
hold
it
at
South
Commons,
where
the
Olympics
was
held
they're,
also
in
favor
of
that.
So
any
support
you
can
give
us
in
in
the
manner
of
anything
you
could
do
to
better.
The
appearance
of
that
bar
would
be
greatly
appreciated.
AC
P
AC
Q
AC
U
Really
glad
you
came
here
today,
that's
exciting
news,
and
certainly
we've
got
an
outstanding
public-private
partnership,
and
you
know
an
event
like
that
that
you're
describing
and
I'm
going
to
understate
it,
but
I
just
look
at
it
as
tremendous
national
exposure,
positive
national
exposure
to
market
our
city
and
I'm
sure
that
maybe
mr.
or
mrs.
city
manager
that
maybe
we
can
even
enlist
some
of
our
corporations,
local
corporations
to
contribute
to
an
event
like
this
go.
That's
good
news
for
everybody.
I
would
think
so.
J
B
R
B
V
AD
Washington,
madam
mayor
members
of
council,
on
the
parks
agenda
first
item
is
a
memorandum
from
me
regarding
the
River
Valley
Area
Agency
on
Aging
Advisory
Council.
We
have
a
biographical
sketch
of
Miss
Jane
go
bar
counselor
Davis
nominee
for
the
Board
of
Tax
Assessors
I
have
three
resolutions
to
excuse
council.
D
AD
AD
V
B
AD
The
animal
control
that
buys
reboard,
we
are
still
trying
to
make
contact
the
public's
work,
has
contact,
contacted
the
president.
I
have
also
written
another
letter
to
damn.
Hopefully
we
will
hear
something
back
from
them
soon.
We
are
still
waiting
to
hear
back
from
miss
Leslie
Jones
regarding
whether
or
not
she
wants
to
serve
again.
I
have
written
a
letter
to
the
Liberty
Cultural
Center,
waiting
to
hear
back
from
them
on
the
board
of
tax,
assessor's
I.
Believe
mayor
pro-tem
has
a
nominee.
She
wants
to
make
right.
Mayor,
Pro,
Tem,.
R
B
R
AD
AD
AD
And
on
the
Civic
Center
advisory
board,
councillor
Barnes
is
working
on
a
replacement
for
mr.
Bruce
Samuels,
who
has
resigned
and
then
on
our
community
development.
Advisory
Council
mr.
Dale
Caldwell
has
resigned.
This
is
councillor
Garrett's
nominee
on
the
Comprehensive
Plan
state's
committee.
Mr.
city
manager
is
nominating
mr.
Adrian
Chester.
He
can
be
confirmed.
AA
B
AD
And
then
we'll
need
a
representative
for
district
1
as
well
as
district
5
in
10.
We
are
still
working
with
keep
Columbus
beautiful
Commission
to
get
some
recommendations
for
a
district
2,
as
well
as
this
at-large
seat
on
the
personnel
review
board.
Mr.
John
Rowe
has
been
Reno
mandated.
He
can
be
confirmed.
B
AD
On
a
Public,
Safety
Advisory
mayor
still
working
Recreation,
Advisory
Board
was
so
waiting
to
hear
back
from
the
school
district
as
well
as
working
on
a
replacement
for
mr.
Gary
Bruce,
who
at
district
FETs
councillor
Henderson,
is
working
on
a
nominee
for
his
district
ten
feet
on
a
tree
board.
We're
waiting
to
get
some
recommendations
for
for
dr.
Roger
Brown
and
miss
Enright
seat
on
the
town
facade
board.
The
uptown
Business
Association
has
recommended
mr.
James
Lewis
to
succeed,
miss
JC
Jenkins.
She
pimp
he
can
be
confirmed.
AD
J
B
V
Mayor
just
a
question
about
January,
2nd
mayor
proclamation,
meaning
it
is
scheduled,
I
just
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
that,
and
so
that
is
the
day
following
the
New
Year's
holiday
and
if
it's
still
on
then
it's
on.
But
if
you
were
interested
in
not
having
it,
you
would
need
to
make
a
decision
today.
No
not
for
me
I,
don't
man.
B
B
Z
B
T
Want
to
wish
everyone
a
Merry,
Christmas
and
since
Carver
High
School
is
one
of
my
high
schools
in
the
district.
We
had
a
nice
announcement
this
morning
that
Mario
Davis
is
the
new
CEO
president
of
the
YMCA
Columbus
he's
a
graduate
of
Carver
high
school.
Just
want
to
congratulate
him,
wish
him
well.
I
didn't
know.
I
was
working
out
with
the
new
CEO
back
in
July,
wanted
to
wish
him
well
and
everything,
and
just
thank
you
all.
It's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
all
of
you
this
year.
Merry
Christmas
to
you
all.