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A
B
Mayor
skip
Henderson
city
manager,
Isaiah
Hughley
pops,
Barnes
district,
one
Glenn
Davis
district
2,
Bruce
Huff
District
3,
Toya,
Tugger,
District,
4,
Charmaine,
crab
District,
5,
Gary,
Allen,
mayor
Pro,
tem
and
District
Six
Mimi
Woodson
district
7,
Walker
Garrett,
District,
8,
Judy,
Thomas
posts;
nine
at
large
counselor
John
house,
Post
10
at
large
counselor,
Sandra,
Davis,
Clerk
of
counsel
and
City
Attorney
Clifton
Faye,
Columbus
Georgia.
This
is
your
city
council.
C
Places
we
deliberate
for
the
citizens
of
Muskogee,
County
and
I'm
particularly
proud,
and
pleased
to
have
buddy
Cooper
Dr
Buddy
Cooper,
who
is
with
Saint
Paul
United
Methodist,
which
is
my
home
church
and
buddy,
has,
in
addition
to
serving
his
lead
Pastor.
He
is
back
at
St
Paul,
but
he
is
awesome
buddy.
You
can
come
to
the
podium
right
here,
but
he
has
also
been
the
district
superintendent
for
the
for
the
United
Methodist
Church
here
here
and
and
I'm
just
personally
very
gratified
and
pleased
that
you're
here
to
deliver
the
prayer.
D
D
D
When
this
term
quickly
passes
into
history
May
the
people
of
Columbus
be
glad
skip.
Henderson
was
given
a
second
inauguration.
This
is
not
a
Victory
lap.
Holy
Father,
lift
our
eyes
to
our
grandchildren,
a
generation
and
help
us
to
bless
them.
Call
us
to
our
work
to
leave
for
our
descendants
a
better
world
than
we
have
inherited.
This,
we
humbly
ask
be
done
in
thy
great.
C
C
All
right,
thank
you.
Mr
City
attorney.
F
Well,
we're
going
to
have
our
organizational
meeting
mayor,
happy
2023
to
everybody.
First,
we're
going
to
have
judges
swear
on
mayor,
skip
Henderson
for
a
second
term
and
then
we'll
move
to
the
oath
of
counselors.
All.
C
Right
and
I'm
I'm
extremely
proud
and
pleased
to
be
able
to
invite
my
wife
to
come
up
and
hold
the
Bible,
and
also
our
daughter,
Kyle
and
our
son's
fiance
McKenna.
G
G
Do
you
further
swear
on
a
firm
that
you
have
been
a
resident
of
the
scheduled
accounting
but
the
time
required
by
the
constitutional
laws
of
this
state
and
that
you
have
been
a
resident
of
your
district
for
the
town
looks
like
by
law?
So
please
I
do
and
then
we
will
continue.
Do
you
further
swear
or
affirm
that
you
are
not
the
holder
of
any
unaccounted
court?
Public
may
be
due
to
this
statement
or
public
subdivision
authority
to
interrupt
that.
G
You
are
not
the
whole
parent
in
office
of
trust
under
the
Constitution
of
the
United
States
any
other
state.
Any
foreign
states
that
you
are
prohibited
from
holding
by
the
laws
of
the
state
of
Georgia
and
that
you
are
otherwise
qualified
in
the
whole
set
office.
According
to
the
Constitution
of
this
state
and
the
Constitution
of
the
United
States,
in
which
you
will
support
these
constitutions,.
E
G
E
Another
oath-
yes
well
actually
now
I
might
as
well
hold
all
of
the
council
members
and
and
America
as
chairman
of
the
city
council,
but
I
think
they're
coming
in
just
a
moment.
Okay!
Well
then
judge
McBride
is
going
to
as
well
judge.
Mcbride
is
going
to
owe
all
the
city
council
members,
except
for
good,
except
for
Bruce
Huff,
who
that's
Richardson's
gonna
vote,
but
it
makes
sense
for
me
to
vote
you
all
on
Max.
E
E
Do
you
solemnly
swear
our
firm
that
you
will
well
and
truly
discharge
the
duties
of
your
office
in
Columbus,
consolidated
government
in
all
matters
which
require
official
action
to
the
best
of
your
knowledge
and
skill
and
will
so
act?
That
is,
in
your
judgment,
to
be
most
conductive
to
the
welfare
and
best
interests
of
the
entire.
E
B
E
Further
soundly
square
or
affirm
that
you
are
not
the
holder
of
any
any
unaccounted
for
public
money
to
this
state
or
any
public
subdivision
for
Authority
thereof,
that
you
are
not
the
owner
of
any
office
of
trust
under
the
government
of
the
United
States,
any
other
state
or
any
pharmacy,
which
you
are
prohibited
component
by
the
laws
of
the
state
of
Georgia.
And
do
you
otherwise
and
that
you
are
otherwise
off
by
the
hold
said
office.
According
to
the
Constitution
of
the
United
States
and
the
laws
of
the
state
of
Georgia,
and
that
you
will.
A
F
G
C
C
G
All
right,
what
I'm
going
to
do
at
this
time
is:
ask
that
you
each
raise
your
right
hand
that
you
indicate
that
the
appropriate
path,
your
oath
or
your
affirmation,
whichever
you
prefer
and.
H
G
Please
raise
your
right
hand.
Do
you,
please
state
your
name,
solemn.
We
swear
or
affirm
that
you
will
well
truly
and
Faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
council
member
of
Columbus
Georgia
to
the
best
of
your
ability,
and
that
you
will
support
and
defend
the
charter
thereof,
as
well
as
the
constitutional
laws
of
the
state
of
Georgia
and
of
the
United
States
of
America.
A
B
G
G
I
J
J
J
Name,
Solomon
swear
our
firm
that
you
were
well
truthfully
and
Faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
council
member
of
Columbus
Georgia
to
the
best
of
your
ability
and
that
you
will
support
and
defend
the
charter
thereof
as
well
at
the
Constitution,
the
laws
of
the
state
of
Georgia
and
the
United
States
of
America.
If
so
say
you
saw
this
well
firm,
you
will
well
and
truly
discharge
the
duties
of
your
Council
District
in
Columbus
Missouri
county
in.
J
A
J
J
J
C
We
first
of
all
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
being
here
to
share
this
occasion
with
the
counselors
and
with
the
mayor
and
I
want
to
congratulate
all
of
these
counselors
on
their
swearing
in
and
thank
them
for
their
willingness
to
serve.
The
people
of
this
community.
I
will
make
a
mention
of
of
one
newest
of
our
newest
counselor,
who
is
succeeding.
Councilor
Woodson,
Council,
Joanne
Covell,
so
we
want
to
you,
know,
give
her
a
minute
if
she
wants
to
say
a
few
words.
K
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
all
the
familiar
faces
that
are
in
the
audience
my
mom
and
my
dad
I
think
have
just
made
an
exit,
maybe
with
my
with
my
daughter,
big
thanks
for
for
them
supporting
me
for
the
last
I
guess
it's
been
a
year.
This
has
been
a
year
in
the
making.
So
officially
so
thank
you
for
all
the
familiar
faces
for
coming
out
today
and
I
look
forward
to
serving
Columbus.
C
Thank
you,
counselor
counselor,
Huff,.
L
Thank
you,
mayor,
I,
just
wanted
to
mention
this
this
morning.
Thank
you
for
your
patience.
Let
me
say
this
real
quick
judge.
Mcbride
was
really
really
kind
about
this
because
he's
the
chief
judge
and
basically
allowed
me
to
move
ahead
with
Ben
Richardson
he's
our
newly
appointed
Superior
Court
judge,
but
anyway,
The
Story,
Goes,
Ben,
Richardson,
judge,
Ben,
Richardson
and
I
have
a
history
from
the
time
that
he
arrived
in
Columbus
and
we
attend
church
together
and
the
joke
between
us
was.
L
He
was
in
government
and
I
was
just
a
citizen.
I
was
not
anywhere
near
city,
council
or
anything
I
would
come
by
and
see
six
manager,
everybody
else,
just
like
all
the
other
citizens
and
do
business
in
the
city,
but
I've
watched
him
grow
from
the
time
he
hit.
Columbus
Georgia
and
we've
had
discussions
in
church
and
people
around
this
circle.
Here
we
know
some
of
the
conversations
you
have
sometimes
and
to
watch
him
grow
watch
his
son
grow
wife
and
everybody
his
family.
It
was
just
a
special
moment.
L
So
thank
you
so
much
thank
Columbus
again
for
allowing
me
to
serve
and
making
me
a
better
person
and
to
hold
my
feet
to
the
fire
and
keep
me
accountable.
Thank
you.
A
C
Say
personally,
I
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
the
this
Council
does
an
incredible
job
and
they
have
a
lot
of
weighty
decisions
that
they
make
every
week.
Some
that
seem
very
small
are
actually
very
big
impact
on
our
community,
so
I
just
I
respect
all
of
you
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you
over
the
next
next
four
years.
All
right
next,
we'll
get
y'all
right
to
work,
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
December
13th
council
meeting.
C
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
any
edits
or
any
discussions.
Anybody
would
like
to
make
with
regards
to
Memphis
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
any
post
all
right
and
also
want
to
make
mention
that
our
mayor,
Pro
Tim,
is
joining
us
today,
but
he's
doing
so
virtually
so
his
votes
will
be
recorded
along
with
the
along
with
the
counselors
that
are
around
the
table.
C
C
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
over
to
the
City
attorney
so
that
we
can
make
these
appointments.
F
M
Mayor
I
would
like
to
nominate
councilor
Gary
Allen
to
continue
to
serve
as
mayor
Pro
Tem.
C
Motion
and
a
second
to
a
to
for
Council
Gary
Allen
to
continue
his
mayor,
Pro
Temp.
Any
discussion
hearing,
not
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
A
C
C
All
right
we
do,
we
do
have
a
like
I
said
the
bear
Pro
tem
is
here
virtually
so
we're
going
to
allow
him
a
moment
to
make
a
comment.
D
J
A
C
J
Council's
confidence
in
me,
I
will
continue
to
serve
out
the
best
of
my
ability
to
serve
them.
Council
represent
them
well
in
the
citizens
of
Columbus.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
sir.
All
right.
L
Counselor
Huff
to
the
next
point,
I
wanted
to
nominate
clerk,
Sandra
Davis
for
Clerk
of
council
and
Lindsay
McLemore
as
the
deputy
Clerk
of
council.
C
All
right,
there's
a
motion
and
a
second
for
to
appoint
a
reappoint
Clerk
of
counsel,
Sandra
Davis
for
the
next
two
years
and
as
Deputy
clerk,
Lindsey
Cliff,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
we've
got
a
motion.
Second,
any
discussion,
all
in
favor
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right!
Congratulations,
ladies.
Thank
you.
F
F
C
All
right
we'll
do
that
before
we
do
we're
going
to
take
about
five
minutes.
Ten
tops
to
a
little
bit
of
a
recess
to
afford
these
newly
sworn
in
counselors
to
meet
out
front
for
any
pictures,
because
I
know
they've
got
some
family
members
here
and
some
supporters
so
we'll
we'll
reconvene
in
about
10
minutes
foreign.
C
Thank
you
for
your
Indulgence.
We,
we
did
have
some
folks
that
wanted
to
get
some
pictures
taken,
but
we
we
took
about
a
minute
or
two
too
long,
I
think
they
might
have
left,
but
we'll
we'll
re
reconvene.
The
meeting,
I'm
gonna
Council
Madam
Clerk.
O
Yes,
thank
you
Mr
Mayor.
Do
you
just
want
to
make
a
comment
on
behalf
of
councilor
Garrett
who's
attending
virtually
he
wanted
to
offer
his
congratulations
to
every
one
of
the
council
members
that
was
sworn
in
today
and
he
looks
forward
to
working
together
with
each
of
you
in
the
future.
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
thank.
C
You
ma'am
all
right.
Well,
next,
we've
got
a
presentation
from
the
internal
auditor
Donna
McGinnis
McGinnis,
welcome.
P
P
Believe
everyone
has
a
copy
of
the
update
by
now
I'd
like
to
share
with
you
that
the
current
activities
in
internal
audit
and
some
of
our
plans
for
the
New
Year
in
progress
at
the
present
time,
we
have
an
audit
of
in
animal
control
that
is
assigned
to
Elizabeth
Garfield,
was
authorized
by
your
actions
on
August
9th
of
2022..
P
P
Anticipating
delivery
of
this
audit
at
our
next
scheduled
council
meeting
We
additionally
have
three
pending
audits
that
have
been
approved.
Inspections
and
codes
was
authorized,
December
15th
of
2020
and
is
not
is
assigned
to
myself,
but
additionally,
pending
Community
reinvestment
with
authorized
December
10th
of
2019
and
assigned
to
Elizabeth
Barfield,
and
the
last
pending
audit
that's
authorized
is
in
Recorder's
Court
was
authorized,
October
8th
of
2019
and
reassigned
to
Elizabeth
Barfield
following
the
retirement
of
our
previous
internal
auditor.
P
Lastly,
anticipating
a
future
role
for
the
internal
auditor,
supporting
the
recently
adopted
audit
committee,
providing
information,
support
and
technical
assistance.
Admittedly,
it's
a
little
too
soon
to
know
what
lies
ahead
there,
but
we
know
that
that's
a
responsibility,
that's
coming
our
way.
Additionally,
I
would
like
to
see
us
promote
the
fraud,
waste
and
abuse
hotline
just
a
little
bit
more
than
we
currently
do.
I'm
monitoring
that
hotline-
and
we
do
have
some
activity-
I
I-
would
like
our
employees
to
be.
You
know
Fearless
about
using
that
number.
P
If
they
have
concerns-
and
in
closing
do
we
have
any
questions
from
from
the
council
today.
H
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
Mr
McGinnis.
This
is
when
I
asked
for
an
update,
I
wanted
to
understand.
What's
going
on
and
this
late.
This
lays
out
very
clearly
what
artists
we
have
that
are
ongoing.
Do
you
have
a
projected
completion
for
any
of
the
others?
Besides
the
one
that
we're
going
to
hear
about
next
week,
our
next
meeting.
P
H
P
Rather
narrow
scope
of
perhaps
two
or
three
months
would
be
my
anticipation,
okay,
but
then
clearly
we
we
do
need
to
address
those
items
that
have
been
covered,
delayed
right.
H
B
M
The
recorders
court,
the
fact
that
we
have
installed
a
new
senior
recorder
is
that:
how
will
that
impact
this
audit?
Well.
P
Basically,
the
nature
of
the
audit
is
is
likely
to
change
and
become
more
of
a
transitional
audit,
because
we've
got
new
leadership
in
place,
but
clearly
recorders
court
was
badly
disrupted
by
covid
and
now
with
new
leadership.
The
approach
in
the
auditing
is
likely
to
take
more
of
a
transitional
approach.
P
P
Q
Thanks
mayor
Miss,
McGinnis
I'm,
looking
forward
to
this
next
year
and
and
working
together,
I
cannot
express
the
importance
of
the
an
institution
of
the
internal
auditor's
office
to
the
citizens
of
Columbus.
You
are
a
valuable
asset,
you're
a
tool
for
us
as
a
council,
and
it
you
we
can't
really
when
you
think
about
it,
doing
our
jobs
and
our
responsibilities
it's
hard
to
do
it
without
the
support
of
your
office
and
we're
here
to
support
you
too.
Q
So
I
want
you
to
know
that
I'm
glad
you
touched
on
the
the
hotline,
the
hotline
and
encouraging
our
employees
to
be
involved
there.
You
know
over
the
years
and
actually
that's
been
on
my
mind
for
a
little
while
I
haven't
you
know
there
used
to
be.
You
could
see
posters
all
over
where
it
talked
about
encouraging
employees
to
report
waste,
Fraud
and
Abuse
I
mean
and,
and
it
would
be,
of
a
confidential
nature.
Previous
Mayors
have
have
stayed
at
many
many
times
in
the
council
meetings
and
I'm.
Q
That
is,
is
to
bring
that
to
the
Forefront
and
make
sure
that
our
employees
know
that
they
have
an
Avenue
to
if
they
see
something
and
I'm
sure
the
city
manager
reports
supports
this
tremendously,
that
if
they
see
something
make
sure
you
report
it
and,
as
I
said,
it
is
of
a
confidential
nature,
but
it
gives
the
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
we
can,
when
we
talk
to
our
citizens,
that
we
can
assure
them
of
the
highest
responsibility
and
accountability
that
this
government
has
and
that
we're
doing
it
we're
doing
exactly
that
and
we're
utilizing
our
internal
auditor's
office.
R
Yes,
thank
you.
I
agree
with
councilor
Davis
in
reference
to
the
what
I
see
in
other
locations
that
calls
the
what's
the
Whistleblower
hotline
that
we
do
need
to
really
put
that
out
there
a
lot
more
and
advertise
that
it
is
confidential.
R
I
appreciate
you
putting
that
in
there.
I
will
ask
in
reference
to
the
the
audits.
You
say
that
that
have
not
received
audits
in
the
last
5-10
years
or
more
will
you
have
a
actual
list
of
which
departments
you.
P
R
P
P
Davis
part
of
that
process
is
to
help
identify
sort
of
pain,
points
concerns
and,
in
these
conversations,
we've
already
seen
the
realization
that
we've
had
departments
that
have
not
been
visited
by
internal
audit
for
five
years
or
more,
and
particularly
in
areas
where
we
have
cash
exposure.
It's
it's
not
responsible
to
to.
Let
that
continue
that
we
need
to
get
out
and
be
active
in
those
work
areas.
Okay,.
R
And
I
will
contact
you
I
appreciate
you
sending
that
email,
I
will
say
during
my
last
Duty
assignment,
I
was
actually
I.
Had
a
TS,
SEI
clearance
and
I
understand
the
role
of
an
auditor.
I
did
inspections
for
the
entire
Alaskan
theater
is
very
important.
I
appreciate
you
I.
Take
this
position
very
serious,
so
I'm
100
behind
you
I
think
that
it
is
probably
one
of
the
most
overlooked
departments
and
probably
would
need
more
people
working
in
the
internal
audit.
Department.
I
P
One
of
the
differences-
a
transitional
audit
you
know,
obviously
relates
to
a
change
in
leadership
at
the
top
of
a
department
and
one
of
the
reasons
we
go
in
with
different
eyes.
You
want
to
assess
what
occurred
under
previous
leadership,
trying
to
assess
and
determine
a
clean
starting
point
for
the
new
leader,
so
we're
looking
at
it
with
different
eyes,
and
we
want
to
see
what
occurred
in
the
past,
what
the
promise
of
of
a
New
Day
brings
and,
to
you
know,
identify
problems
that
are
associated
with,
perhaps
previous
leadership,
previous
training.
P
You
know
to
basically
give
that
new
leader
a
a
clean
basis
for
assessment
going
forward.
So
the
the
eyes,
the
approach
of
those
eyes
tend
to
be
a
little
different.
There
may
be
times
we
come
in
and
do
a
more
traditional
Department
analog.
That
might
be
something
you
do,
because
you
know
that
you've
got
cash
exposure
and
you
haven't
been
been
there
in
six
years
or
something
like
that,
where
it's
just
time
to
ensure
that
we
continue
to
have
a
good
bill
of
health.
P
P
It
was
at
this
point
in
terms
of
the
records
I've
gone
back,
we're
back
in
October,
8th
of
2019
the
last
time
that
they
were
audited
was
sometime
prior
to
that
date.
Now
I
was
not
a
resident
at
that
time.
I
don't
know
exactly
how
long
ago
it's
been,
but
we
already
know
when
we're
having
this
conversation
today,
we're
in
2023.
So
we're
already
looking
at
a
little
bit
of
time.
P
I
And
I
think
that
going
forward,
if,
if
say
there
is
a
a
transition
between
you,
know
a
transition
if
we
haven't,
if
we're
going
to
do
a
transitional
audit,
but
we
haven't
done
an
audit
on
that
department
in
five
to
ten
years
that
we
don't
do
just
a
transitional
audit
that
we
do
a
complete
audit
so
that
we
can
like
have
a
set
of
basis,
have
something
to
compare
to
going
forward.
Now.
I
If
we,
if
we
start
having
audits
on
a
more
regular
basis,
then
we
might
be
able
to
nip
something
in
the
bud
when
it's
small
instead
of
when
it.
You
know
when
it's
about
to
explode.
P
Absolutely
because
we
have
learned
in
recent
history
if
we
have
a
department
that
perhaps
has
not
had
an
audit
for
quite
a
while
and
I
hold
out
the
clerk
of
superior
and
State
Court
as
an
example
where
they
had
not
received
an
audit
for
quite
a
while,
and
maybe
the
opportunities
were
there,
but
until
Ms
Forte
made
the
request,
you
know
they
didn't
receive
an
audit.
Had
there
been
earlier
intervention,
we
might
have
had
much
better
outcomes
right.
Okay,
thank.
C
Welcome
yeah
and
I
and
I
think
that
raises
a
great
point,
because
the
Constitutional
officers
are
not
under
the
control
of
the
auditor
or
or
even
the
city
manager
or
the
mayor,
and
so
we
had
to
wait
until
we
were
invited
in
and
frankly
I
credit
the
spiritual
clerk
for
bringing
that
audit
in,
and
that
was
a
quote
trans
transitional
audit.
But
you
see
that
the
audit
department
is
going
to
move
towards
wherever
there's
smoke,
to
try
to
figure
out.
C
What's
going
on,
so
we'll
we'll
likely
be
asking
all
of
the
Constitutional
officers
to
make
just
a
checklist,
a
statement
whatever
we'll
we'll
let
our
auditor
and
our
finance
direct
come
up
with
that.
Just
so
they're
making
a
public
statement
that
either
we
we
can
go
to
an
audit
or
if
they
don't
want,
the
audit
at
least
acknowledge
that
they're
doing
some
basic
reconciliation
and
things
of
that
nature.
To
make
sure
that
Council
feels
a
little
bit
more
comfortable
about
the
transaction
of
business,
though
the.
S
S
And
you
know
I
think
there
has
to
be
some
at
least
policy
statement
or
position
from
the
mayor
and
Council.
And
then
elected
officials
with
constitutional
officers
and
other
elected
officials
can
accept
the
mayor
council's
policy.
S
But
you
know
this
government
is
all
inclusive
of
General
government,
public
safety,
but
elected
officials
or
constitutional
officers,
some
of
them
and
and
I
don't
know
the
position
of
this
mayor
and
Council
related
to
audits
in
those
offices,
and
so
I
I
hear
your
passion
today
for
Audits
and
hotline
and
all
of
these
other
things,
but
don't
forget
the
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
are
handled
by
those
who
do
not
report
to
the
mayor
or
city
manager
and
they
get
to
the
side.
S
What
are
you
going
to
do
is
my
question,
but
thank
you
for
your
outline
for
the
work
that
you
have
done,
that
we
know
that
you're
going
to
do
and
and
know
that
I
support
everything.
That's
been
said.
The
hotline
I
support,
just
everything
you've
outlined
that
you
plan
to
do
and
that
I've
heard
around
this
table.
S
This
government
needs
to
be
transparent
and-
and
you
know
the
old
song
everything
out
in
the
open
and
and
that's
where
I
stand.
R
Yes,
I
and
I
actually
forgot
to
say
something
and
I'm
I
know
counselors
around
the
table,
get
plenty
of
emails.
R
I
received
an
email
from
a
citizen
that
actually
goes
to
I
mean
I'm
sure
you
all
know
so
many
people
look
at
what
we.
The
reports
we
put
out
and
I
do
appreciate
that
we
do
have
on
the
internal
Auditors
website
the
reports
from
our
actual
audits.
What
I
will
ask
per
a
citizen
is
what
is
the
recourse
for
the
audit
for
the
Department
meaning?
What
actions
do
they
take?
Do
they
have
a
managers
or
Department
here
response
you
know:
do
we
what's
the
policy
from
the
audit?
Do
they
submit
a
response?
R
P
P
In
the
case
of
the
DA's
office,
we
have
some
findings
that
identified
the
fact
that
their
compliance
reporting
to
the
state
to
the
state,
the
PAC
Council,
basically
that
they
had
had
a
history
of
of
some
poor,
reportings
very
sloppy
reporting,
and
it
appeared
that
we
had
righted
the
ship.
You
know
that
things
were
well
at
this
point,
but
you
all
even
voted
on
this
voted
to
ensure
that
I
would
Circle
back
their
year-end
report
is
due
by
the
end
of
January,
to
ensure
that
the
constructive
recommendations
and
the
suggestion
are
now
in
place.
P
The
way
I
left
them.
When
I
was
last
on
site,
so
there's
follow-up
that
goes
on
I,
don't
know
that
we
in
the
past
have
always
had
a
commitment
to
that
level
of
follow-up
a
year
later,
for
instance,
when
we've
done
an
audit,
but
the
more
of
that
that
we
do,
we
will
ensure
that
the
recommendations
are
in
place.
Yeah.
R
And
that
was
the
the
comment
that
was
made
by
the
citizen
is
that
the
audit
is
good,
but
it's
the
follow-through.
You
know
it's
the
follow-up
and
if
we
don't
do
any
follow-up,
it's
just
audit.
You
know
we're
not
taking
the
recommended.
You
know
course
of
actions
from
the
audit
and
they
don't
see
that
transparency
or
what's
going
on
afterwards.
So
that
was
you
know
a
conversation
and
I
just
called
a
citizen.
C
It
and
I
know
that
anytime,
there's
a
if
there's
a
city
manager
will
speak
but
anytime
there's
an
audit
of
an
apartment
that
answers
to
the
city
manager.
They
absolutely
take
action,
then
they
bring
it
back
to
council
to
let
them
know
if
there
was
an
anything
that
had
to
be
handled
from
from
a
an
operational
Personnel
standpoint,
the
the
challenges
with
elected
officials.
We
we
get
their
comments
back,
but
then
we
don't
have
any
real
authority
over
any
further
further
actions.
R
P
R
Do
so
like,
for
instance,
Fulton
County,
when
you
go
to
their
website,
it
actually
has
the
manager's
response
it.
It
really
captures.
You
know
everything
on
their
website,
so
you'll
see
more
information
per
that
department
or
poor
or
per
their
audit.
So
the
thing
is
being
we
just
like
you
said:
transparency
I
think
in
2023.
This
is
the
year
transparency
and
it's
it's
just
been
a
lot
more
transparent
and
then
showing
a
lot
more
follow
through
that
we're
actually
doing
exactly
what
you're
recommending
based
on
that
audit.
P
Now
more
consistent
follow-up,
not
just
in
the
DA's
office,
but
in
any
area
that
we
work
in,
is
probably
going
to
pay
off
in
dividends,
but
another
thing
that
we
could
do
to
improve
the
transparency.
In
many
cases
the
written
response
from
the
Oddity
is
presented
and
posted
online
in
the
body
of
the
report,
perhaps
to
bring
Clarity
to
this
for
Citizens,
we
pull
out
those
responses
and
post
the
responses
out
there
off
to
the
side.
So
it's
a
little
more
clear
to
those
that
are
out
there
on
the
web.
Absolutely
absolutely.
S
And
so
Mr
Mayor.
What
she
just
said,
I
think
is,
is
what
needs
to
happen
I.
You
know,
I've,
never,
I,
don't
know
of
any
external
audit
that
we've
had
in
my
years
or
internal
audits
that
we've
had
in
my
years
where
there
was
not
a
response.
There's
on.
In
every
instance,
there's
been
a
response.
It
may
have
been
embedded
in
the
report
embedded
in
the
reports
and
it
needs
to
be
just
broken
out,
but
I
mean
I
can
go
through
anybody.
S
S
When
the
external
auditor
gets
comes
to
this
Podium
and
presents
a
finding,
the
finance
director
has
always
had
a
response
to
every
finding
and
then
they
go
back
and
then
even
when
they
come
back
the
next
year,
they
report
here's
what
they
found
last
year
and
here's
what
we've
done
so
I
think
it's
just
been
embedded
in
the
report
right
and
I.
Think
you
just
provided
a
good.
You.
P
And
I
think
we'll
have
better
clarity,
but
we
could
also
probably
be
a
little
more
diligent
than
we've
been
historically
with
follow-up
now
I
realized
within
the
city
manager's
office
and
down
in
the
various
departments.
There's
probably
follow-up,
but
from
the
internal
Auditor's
perspective.
You
know
there
have
been
selected
situations
where
I've
gone
back
six
months
later
or
a
year
later,
but
we
should
probably
do
a
little
bit
more
of
that.
Q
But
we
often
always
talk
about
the
good
shape
that
our
financial
portfolio
is
in
with
this
city
government
and
if
we're
going
to
have
Superior
Financial
standards
and
transparency
for
our
government
and
our
community
and
for
citizens
of
our
community,
we
need
to
everyone
in.
This
government
needs
to
look
at
the
internal
auditor's
office
as
an
asset,
not
an
enemy
as
an
asset.
If
you're
doing
things
right,
you
have
nothing
to
worry
about,
but
the
transparency
needs
to
be
there
and
I'm
glad
that
we're
talking
about
a
spirit
of
cooperation.
And
yes,
there
are.
Q
We
have
different
parts
of
this
government.
There
are
constitutional
officers
that
run
their
offices
and
their
departments,
but
you
know
lately
I've
seen
more
of
a
spirit
of
cooperation
and
good
things
are
happening
today
than
in
the
past
in
the
past.
That
Spirit
of
cooperation
has
been
stress,
then.
Q
Yes,
these
constitutional
officers
can
make
a
lot
of
decisions
that
do
not
apply
to
the
General
government
and
to
Public
Safety,
which
is
controlled
by
the
executive
management,
the
city
manager
and
the
mayor,
and
but
lately
again
we
need
to
stress
that
Spirit
of
cooperation
and
we
need
to
do
whatever
we
can
to
work
together,
whatever
it
takes.
I'm
a
city
manager.
Q
If
you
were
talking
about
some
kind
of
policy,
we
need
to
do
that,
but
we
need
to
express
the
importance
of
them
working
together
with
us
and
utilizing
the
internal
auditor's
office
as
an
asset,
because
they
can
do
a
lot
of
things.
I
think
that
a
lot
of
departments
are
starting
to
see
that
they
can
help
and
that's
going
to
create
Superior
Financial
standards
in
our
government
and
that's
where
we
want
to
go
so
I
wanted
to
highlight
that,
but
also
what
was
said
about
the
the
audits,
the
audits.
Q
Yes,
an
audit
is
an
audit,
but
without
that
follow-up,
without
going
back
and
rechecking
just
to
make
sure
everybody
you
know,
is
everything
working
right,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
recommendations.
There
are
recommendations
there
for
a
purpose
to
improve
and
Excel
and
we
need
to
go
back
whether
it's
on
an
annual
Bay
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
a
policy
Mr
Mayor
on
the
books.
Q
But
if
we
do
need
to
make
a
policy,
then
when
we
do
audits,
then
it
needs
to
be
necessary
that
we
go
back
and
do
that
follow-up
in
a
year,
an
annual
basis
or
whatever.
But
it
needs
to
be
done
just
to
check
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
on
the
same
page
I
think
that's
good.
That's
a
that's
a
that's
a
good
habit
to
get
into.
So
those
are
a
couple
things
you
tell
me
how
we
can
work
with
I
want
to
work
with
our
constitutional
officers
and
you're
right.
Q
There's
a
lot
of
money
moving
in
other
areas
of
the
government
that
different
people
are
in
charge
of,
but
I
want
to
know
how
we
can
work
with
them
and
I
want
them
to
work
with
us.
If
we
need
to
put
up
put
a
policy
together
or
encourage
them
in
whatever
way,
then
then
that
is
necessary.
So
I'm
glad
you
touched
on
that
and
I'm
glad
councilor
Tucker
touched
on
the
necessity
of
doing
the
follow-ups
to
complete
to
really
you
have
an
audit,
but
to
complete
it
you
need
to
do
follow-ups.
C
And
I
I
think
what
the
auditor
is
addressing
is
showing
up
more
often.
So
if
you
follow
up
which
you
necessarily
do
when
you
get
in
a
routine
and
where
you're
going
back
and
checking
what
you've
already
checked
so
I
think
I
think
we'll
that's
what
you
were
saying
we'll
see
more
of
Council
crap
thank.
I
P
With
the
Constitutional
officers,
I
believe
that
they're
going
to
have
to
agree
to
have
us
back
or
invite
us
back
the
example
that
I
gave
in
the
district
attorney's
office
recently
where
there
was
a
recommendation
for
follow-up
at
the
close
of
the
year.
If
you
recall
from
that
Council
session,
City
attorney
Faye
asked
for
a
vote
on
that,
so
that
I
would
be
authorized
to
proceed
now.
Admittedly,
that
was
within
the
body
of
that
audit.
P
A
I
Maybe,
as
part
of
the
an
original
audit
yeah,
we
we're
mindful
of
that
and
we
make
a
recommendation
within
that
audit
that
we
recommend
two
follow-ups
or
three
follow-ups
at
you
know
six
month
or
12
month,
inter
right.
M
M
A
couple
of
things,
I
I,
believe
that
it
would
be
authorized
if
you
will
for
us
to
request
of
any
of
our
constitutional
or
elected
officers
to
come
in.
We
can
always
request
we'd
like
to
do
an
audit
and
I
know
that
those
folks
have
the
authority
to
say
not
now,
but
one
of
the
other
things
is
that
I
do
think
that
we
need
a
real,
close
follow-up
and
I
think
even
perhaps
I've
never
written
an
audit
report.
M
I've
read
a
bunch
of
them,
but
never
written
one,
but
it
may
be
that
in
those
audit
reports
we
say
by
January
1st
2024.
We
will
be
back
to
Tech,
you
know
and
give
that
department
time
to
do
whatever
it
is.
You
ask
them
to
do.
I
do
know
too
that
in
the
audit
reports,
sometimes
the
recommendations
that
the
auditor
makes
it's
not
that
that
the
Department's
doing
something
wrong
it
may
be.
M
M
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
employees
in
that
department.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
Auditors
in
that
department
and
it
may
be
that
that's
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
as
a
council
is
enlarging
that
department
hiring
more
Auditors
and
making
sure
that
they
have
the
time
and
the
expertise
to
assist.
That's
to
me,
that's
the
purpose
of
an
audit
is
to
assist
that
department
to
do
things
as
they
should
be
done
not
to
not
to
get
on
to
them,
not
to
correct
them.
M
Not
to
you
know,
call
them
the
task,
but
to
say,
do
take
a
look
at
this
and
I
know
that
many
of
our
departments.
A
M
P
Also
wasted
time
right,
the
audit
perspective,
rather
than
just
going
in
and
attempting
to
be
punitive
to
go
in
and
view
it
as
an
opportunity
to
provide
constructive
guidance
and
and
to
assist
in
process
improvements,
operational
upgrades.
You
know
that
there
are
opportunities
there
and
it
takes
a
different
tone.
It's
not
necessarily
something
to
be
fearful
of.
M
Yes
and
I
I
would
hope
that
we
get
to
the
point
where
our
department,
heads
and
Department
people
are
not
afraid
of
an
audit
come
on
in
and
and
give
me
some
suggestions
of
how
I
can
do
a
better
job
to
work
for
the
city
of
Columbus
and
the
citizens
of
Columbus
and
I.
I
do
quite
frankly,
Mr
Mayor
think
that
that
may
mean
we're
going
to
have
to
enlarge
that
department.
M
C
I
know
we
we
have
budgeted
for
an
additional,
so
we've
got
in
the
budget
for
three
Auditors,
so
we're
we're
in
a
process,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
I
think
Miss
McGinnis
said
is
one
of
our
top
priorities
is
identifying.
Somebody
and
she's
got
some
good
ideas
on
where
to
start
answering.
M
If
money
were
No,
Object
we'd
give
you
six
or
eight
authors,
and
you
could
do
it.
You
know
and
make
sure
that
we're
doing
we're
doing
the
transparency
we're
showing
the
people
of
Columbus,
where
this
money
is,
how
it's
being
spent
who's
authorizing
it
all
of
those
kinds
of
things
that
an
audit
will
do
so.
I'm
glad
that
we're
looking
at
it
and
let's
keep
looking
at
it.
C
Well
and
I
think
it'll
become
more
efficient
because
I
know
Miss
McGinnis
is
working
right
now
on
recreating
that
organizational
structure
to
make
sure
that
there
are
processes
procedures
within
that
office,
so
that
there's
a
much
much
more
Equitable
flow
of
information
between
Council
and
the
auditor's
office.
So
so
I
yeah
I,
think
you're
going
to
see
it's
and.
M
I
really
do
want
us
to
make
sure
that
the
way
that
we
say
to
the
people
who
are
being
audited,
the
Departments
that
are
being
audited
this.
M
We're
doing
this
to
help
you
improve
and
the
fact
that
we're
gonna
we
tell
you
we're
coming
back
by
January
1
of
2024
doesn't
mean
I'm.
Coming
back
to
check
up
on
you,
it
means
I'm
coming
back
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
help
make
sure
that
this
is
going
in
the
right
direction.
Thank.
S
Mayor,
thank
you
and
again.
I
agree
with
all
of
the
statements
that
have
been
made
around
the
table
and
and
I'm
glad
you
met
a
internal
auditor
said
that
they're
not
meant
to
be
punitive
but
constructive
guidance.
Those
were
your
words
right,
and
so
it's
not
a
threat
and
I,
don't
think
any
departments
are
afraid
of
an
audit.
S
If,
if
the
approach
is
that
this
is
not
punitive,
it's
constructive
guidance,
it's
not
an
effort
to
say
I
got
you
and
you
know,
because
oftentimes
Auditors
feel
like
if
I
don't
find
something
bad
I
didn't
do
a
good
job
and,
and
some
superiors
think
if
they
don't
find
something
bad,
they
didn't
do
a
good
job
and
and
I
think
that's.
We've
got
a
good
government,
that's
my
opinion.
S
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
how
about
you?
We've
got
a
good
government
and
yeah
I,
look
forward
to
the
audits
that
will
help
us
to
be
in
compliance
and
will
serve
as
Improvement
opportunities
and
and
I
still
go
back
to.
S
We
cannot
audit
50
of
the
government
and
the
other
50
percent,
whether
it
be
constitutional
offices
and
elect
officials
go
unchecked
by
their
sole
Authority.
They
at
least
need
to
know
that
there
is
a
position
statement
out
the
gate,
a
policy
related
to
elected
officials
and
constitutional
officers
that
this
Council
has
adopted
and
and
and
it's
known
and
it's
there
and
it's
in
a
resolution
or
ordinance
wherever
it
needs
to
be,
and
then
they
get
to
say
you
don't
tell
me
what
to
do
and
then
you
know
we
go
on
by
our
business.
S
If
that's
what
we
need
to
do,
we
just
don't
check
them,
but
at
least
your
constituents.
The
citizens
of
Columbus,
will
know
that
you
have
a
position,
a
policy
that
constitutional
officer
elect
official,
has
the
authority
to
elect
not
to
follow
your
policy
or
position
and
and
I'm
going
to
keep
saying
that
until
there's
a
policy
statement
or
position,
and
we
just
shouldn't
turn
and
walk
away
from
it
and
say:
there's
nothing.
I
can
do
at
least
we
ought
to
try,
and
so
that's
where
I
stand.
Q
I
think
in
this
conversation
this
really
needs
to
be
stated.
I'm
really
excited
about
the
internal
auditor,
Advisory
Board
I.
Think
the
recent
referendum
of
where
the
citizens
overwhelmingly
supported
this
body
is
a
statement
of
support
for
the
internal
auditor's
office,
the
institution
of
the
internal
auditor's
office
in
our
government,
where
it
stands.
Q
If
we
put
the
right
people
on
this
committee
professionals
that
know
this
stuff
way
far
better
now,
you
know
than
than
all
admit
than
me
and
others
I
think
they're
gonna,
they're
gonna
bring
up
a
lot
of
valuable
suggestions
and
recommendations,
and
we
can
look
to
them
for
for
helping
doing
the
right
thing
in
our
in
our
government
and
I.
C
Thank
you,
sir,
and
and
we'll
we'll
be
more
discussion
as
we
get
to
where
we're
starting
to
nominate
those
folks,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
that
that
that
Charter
change
was
not
focused
on
internal
audit.
It
was
really
focused
on
the
external
auditor.
The
internal
auditor
is
to
I
think,
provide
some
resources
for
this
group,
so
so
I
agree
with
you.
C
There
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
us
to
kind
of
even
get
better,
but
but
I
didn't
want
folks
thinking
that
that
was
a
body
that
was
just
for
the
internal
auditor.
So
all
right.
Thank
you.
No
more
questions.
Thank.
P
F
Thank
you
mayor
welcome,
again
councilor
kogel
and
congrats
to
our
re-elected
counselors.
C
Motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
second
reading
of
the
ordinance
on
the
pay
classification,
any
discussion
all
right
hearing,
none
if
you
would
cue
it
and
counselors
you
can
enter
your
votes,
hang
on
just
a
second.
F
Right
that
item
passes
that'll
be
part
of
the
pay
plan.
Implementation
got
a
couple
of
resolutions
commending
folks
for
their
good
work.
Counselor
Davis
has
one
for
Elizabeth
Barfield
and
one
for
Nancy
Boren.
You
wanna
take
both
of
those
counselor
councilor.
Q
Davis,
thank
you
mayor.
Yes,
if
Elizabeth
Barfield
and
Nancy
Boren
come
up,
I'll.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
If
you
indulge
me
a
minute,
I'd
like
to
use
a
word
picture
recently
of
the
Georgia
Ohio
State
game.
Go
dogs
right,
City
attorney
got
that
right,
but
you
saw
you
saw
a
bunch
of
players
out
there:
incredible,
skilled,
talented
teams,
both
teams
dedicated
resilient,
determined
to
execute
and
a
lot
of
character.
Strengths
were
displayed
that
day
on
the
field,
a
good
team
won,
but
a
lot
strings
were
shown
out
there.
I,
look
at
the
internal,
our
internals
auditor's
office
as
an
institution
that
wins.
Q
Q
I
was
in
my
accountant's
office
not
long
ago,
and
we
he
asked
me
about
the
federal
court
case
that
recently
it
was
interest
to
him
that
just
took
place
and
we
talked
about
it
and
I
kind
of
walked
him
through
it
and
granted
this
Council
and
a
lot
of
us
didn't
know
much
about
it
because
it
was
a
criminal
lawsuit,
a
criminal
case,
and
you
just
you
know
they
just
don't
put
that
information
out
in
public.
So
we
were
waiting
to
see
what
happened.
Q
Q
Q
Elizabeth,
we
have
a
resignation
resolution
here
because
of
the
phenomenal
work
that
was
done
and
this
Council
deems
necessary
that
we
show
appreciation,
as
well
as
the
citizens
of
Columbus
I've
heard
it
from
many
citizens
of
Columbus
that
we
are
so
grateful
for
the
work
that
you've
done
and
I
think
I'm
I'm
accurate
in
saying
that
it
took
years,
or
at
least
a
year.
It
took
a
long
time.
Like
I
said
you
just
don't
go
in
there
and,
like
oh
I,
found
something
wrong.
You
know
let's
go
to
court
tomorrow.
Q
L
Q
Elizabeth,
let
me
say
just
add
to
it
that
it's
not
just
this.
It's
over
the
years
that
you've
been
a
part
of
this
government
I've
noticed
the
detailed
work.
You
do
your
dedication
and
what
you've
done.
You
brought
many
many
valuable
audits
to
us.
You've
done
some
outstanding
work,
it's
just
not
this,
but
this
is
big,
it's
it
it.
Q
Q
R
Yes,
you
know
I'm,
always
grilling
you
when
you
come
up
there
to
that
podium,
but
I
do
appreciate
you,
you
know
I,
just
I,
take
it
I,
guess,
because
I've
done
that
job
and
the
job
that
I
did
really.
If
I
didn't
do
my
job,
things
will
go
wrong
for
Missions.
R
You
know
it
was
top
secret
jobs.
You
know
making
sure
that
I'm
securing
I'm
checking
that
the
functionality
of
military
operations
I
knew
that
it
was
important
and
I
see
when
you
stand
up
there.
You
take
that
job
serious
and
for
you
to
uncover
that
many
millions
of
dollars
and
it
and
it
made
news
you
know
when
when
I
was
out
at
different
trainings
and
on
the
national
scale,
I
was
bragging
about
you,
I
I
really
was
and
they
was
like
wow.
You
have
a
that
internal
y'all
need
to.
R
We
gonna
steal
it
from
you.
You
know
I'm
like
no.
You
can't
steal
her,
but
thank
you
for
for
what
you
do
and
I
appreciate
you
and
just
you
know
a
lot
of
times.
People
look
at
Auditors
as
bad
people.
R
You
know
it's
the
ugly
and
we're
mean
and
we're
nasty,
no
we're
just
doing
our
jobs
and
guess
what
we
don't
need
to
be
people's
friends
because
we're
there
I'm
just
being
honest,
I
mean
the
auditor
is
not
not
there
to
be
a
person's
friend
it's
there
to
to
Really,
help
uncover
and
repair
and
make
sure
that
we're
doing
the
job
for
the
citizens.
You
know
of
Columbus
you're
there
for
a
serious
purpose
and
I
know
that
you
care
about
your
job.
So
I
appreciate
you.
I
Thank
you
I
want
to
thank
councilor
Davis
for
bringing
this
resolution,
because
this
resolution
is
a
long
time
in
the
making.
This
I
mean
this
is
not
just
one
incident.
Yes,
this
incident
was
big
and
so
I
think
maybe
it
put
a
little
bit
of
a
spotlight
on
you
and
it
made
us
really
look,
really
see
your
your
value.
I
You
know
your
old-fashioned
virtues,
you
know
like
patience,
perseverance,
detail-oriented
and
your
boldness,
your
you
know,
you're,
fearless
and
so
and
and
your
fears
and
these
and
and
then
your
integrity.
These
are
all
virtues
that
you
need
to
do
your
job
at
this
level.
This
level
of
excellence
and
I
know
you
know.
Sometimes
people
don't
like
these
old-fashioned
virtues
anymore,
but
we
need
them
they're
necessary
and
we're
so
glad
you
have
them,
don't
ever
lose
them,
and
we
wish
you
the
very
best
going
forward
and
just
keep
it
up.
Girl.
H
House,
thank
you
mayor.
You
have
always
set
a
high
standard
in
every
audit
that
you've
done
that
I've
heard.
So
thank
you
for
all
of
that
hard
work,
and
you
really
really
did
an
exceptional
job
on
this.
This
issue
with
the
clerk
of
superior
court.
So
thank
you
for
saving
us
all
that
money
and
finding
all
those
problems,
but
thank
you
again
for
all
the
hard
work
that
you've
done
and
please
keep
it
up.
Thank
you.
S
City
manager,
mayor
I,
I,
want
to
join
council
members
and
thanking
Elizabeth
for
her
exemplary
work
to
use
the
word
that
Council
Davis
use
and-
and
it
was
indeed
exemplary
work
but
I
cannot
help
but
reflect
back
on
the
fact
that
this
was
a
constitutional
officer
who
did
not
have
to
open
the
door
to
allow
Elizabeth
in
could
have
said
well,
I'm,
not
interested
in
that,
but
Superior
Court,
Clerk,
Daniel
Forte
opened
the
door
to
let
her
in
and
I
want
to
commend
the
clerk
for
opening
that
door
to
let
her
in
and
that's
the
point
I
was
trying
to
make
earlier.
S
If
you
can't
get
the
door
open
to
get
in
and
you
can't
do
the
exemplary
work
that
resulted
in
what
Elizabeth
Barfield
and
the
internal
Auditors
team
did
and,
and
so
my
mind,
reflected
back
on
many
years
of
previous
Superior
Court
clerks
I.
Remember
when
I
was
Deputy
city
manager,
former
city
manager,
at
me,
in
charge
of
what
we
call
a
functional
assessment
team,
and
you
all
may
remember
that
team.
S
What
we
couldn't
get
in
the
door
because
they
said
I'm
not
interested
in
that
well,
but
Superior,
Court
Clerk,
and
so
what
happened
in
the
8
million
goes
back
for
years.
That
we
don't
even
I
mean
we
don't
know
how
many
years
it
goes
back,
but
because
Superior
Court
Clerk
Danielle
Forte
opened
the
door.
You
were
able
to
go
in
and
you
got
the
work
done
and
so
I
commend
you
for
that.
S
And
so
we've
got
to
have
that
cooperation
and
and
that's
why
I
keep
saying
that
Council
should
at
least
have
a
position,
a
policy
statement.
It
shouldn't
be
that
you
know
it
took
25
years
to
get
in
the
door,
but
you
didn't
have
a
policy
I
didn't
have
to
let
you
know
it's
my
decision,
you
don't
have
a
position
on
it,
but
thank
you
for
your
great
work.
Your
exemplary
work.
Job
well
done.
L
Okay:
okay,
congratulations.
You've
always
done
great
work.
We
all
know
that
and
it
took
a
lot
of
getting
into
the
nitty-gritty
to
do
that,
because
a
lot
of
us
probably
have
never
been
so
close
to
something
so
big.
These
are
situations
we
see
on
television
at
the
movie
theaters
instead
of
kind
of
unfold
So,
based
on
how
a
little
theatrics
theatric
side
of
life
we've
got
a
chance
to
watch
something
in
reality,
unfold
on
TV
and
watch
it.
L
N
Elizabeth
is
digital
to
everything.
Everyone's
saying
I
want
to
comment
on
what
Charmaine
said
about
old-fashioned
values
and
to
bring
in
what
also
what
councilor
Tucker
said,
you're
at
a
type
of
job,
where
you're
not
against
anyone,
but
it's
not
your
job
to
or
whatever,
but
one
of
the
values
that
Charmaine
omitted
was
dogged.
N
That's
an
asset
for
your
job
and
and
it
shows
in
the
other
orders
that
you've
done
you're,
just
you
hone
in
and
you're
laser
focused
and
you
don't
get
distracted
and,
and
it
speaks
volumes
to
the
job
you've
done
and
to
again
Mississippi
manager
just
to
highlight
what
you
said.
This
is
something
that
Council
needs
to
come
up
with.
We
need
to
at
least
have
a
policy,
because
if
it
was
not
for
the
superior
corporate,
congratulations
to
to
her
on
being
open,
that
would
have
been
missed.
N
N
What
was
it
and
that's
a,
and
this
is
a
that's
an
asset
in
your
job.
You
know,
so
just
thank
you
again
for
the
phenomenal
job
that
you've
done
and
you're
low-keying.
You
don't
look
for
all
these
athletes
you're
very
quiet,
but
this
is
something
that
really
needed
to
be
done,
and
so
congratulations
again.
C
T
And,
of
course,
to
the
internal
audit
function,
but
it's
very
important
to
me
and
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
C
A
Q
True
public
servants
and,
like
I,
said
Nancy
you're.
The
second
part
of
this
equation,
you're
the
number
two
valuable
person
that
symbolizes
exceptionalism
and
I
I,
try
to
just
get
all
the
words
out
front
but
I'm,
covering
when
I
when
I'm
directing
it
at
both
of
y'all.
Hopefully
it
covers
both
y'all
your
resolutions,
a
little
more
detailed.
So
it's
going
to
take
me
a
little
while
to
read
it.
But
it's
important
to
know
that
you're
here,
because
we're
celebrating
exceptionalism
and
the
city
manager
talks
about
this
all
the
time.
Q
I
know
it
makes
him
proud,
because
that's
his
area
in
making
sure
that
the
employees
are
that
we
not
only
hire
and
train
and
educate
and
that
day
in
day
out,
they're
doing
good
jobs,
and
we
have
many.
Let
me
just
say
that
I
mean
we're
recognizing
two
today,
because
two
significant
events
that
took
place
in
2022,
but
we
have
many
many
employees
that
do
that.
They
are
true
public
servants
as
well
and
they
do
outstanding
work.
Q
Your
department,
the
internal
auditor,
Department
y'all,
don't
really
get
a
lot
of
certificates
and
things
and
all
those
kind
of
accolades.
Really.
When
you
think
about
it,
you're
just
over
there
quietly
doing
your
work
day
in
and
day
out,
when
you're
caught
on
when
you're
called
on
you,
you
Excel,
and
you
execute,
and
that's
what
it's
about
and
I'm
glad
we're.
Taking
this
opportunity
and
I've
always
I've
really
enjoyed
working
with
you
I.
Consider
your
friend
and
I.
Q
Just
you
know:
you're
you're
I
can't
State
how
invaluable
you
are
to
this
this
city
and
from
my
position
I.
Thank
you
and
the
citizens.
Thank
you
as
well
in
this
resolution
on
your
behalf
for
the
outstanding
year,
you
had
a
lot
to
work
with,
and
you
know
we
all
watch
TV,
sometimes
you're
the
Department
of
Elections
and
registrations.
Q
You
know
it
just
kind
of
gets
that
kind
of
putting
that
group
with
what's
being
said
across
the
country
and
and
a
lot
of
it
was
not
very
positive,
but
I
can
say
over
the
years.
We
set
the
example
here
because
of
you
and
the
work
and
the
people
that
work
for
you.
We
set
the
example.
We
do
things
right.
We
don't
have
these
issues
that
other
people
talk
about.
So
it's
because
of
you
and
the
direction
that
you
give
to
your
good
people
that
do
that
and
we
got
a
lot
of
volunteers.
Q
We
got
a
lot
of
volunteers
that
people
don't
realize
in
our
community
that
help
you
and
take
the
time
to
do
it.
So
we've
got
a
good
thing
going
on
here
and
just
thank
you
for
I
know.
You've
been
challenged
many
many
times
and
you
always
came
out
on
the
on
the
above
side
of
everything.
So
here's
the
resolution
that
we
have
recognizing
you
today,
whereas
Nancy
Bourne
has
faithfully
and
skillfully,
served
as
a
director
of
Elections
and
registration
for
the
Columbus
Consolidated
Government
since
1995.,
whereas
since
2020
2020.
Q
For
her
outstanding
contributions
to
the
electoral
system
in
Georgia
and
her
local
community
to
include
the
2020
democracy,
Action
Hero
USC
Schwarzenegger
Institute
award
in
the
2021
Liberty
Bill
award
from
the
Columbus
Bar
Association.
Most
recently,
she
was
named
the
2022
Urban
League
of
the
league
honoree
and
the
2022
Omega
Sci-Fi
fraternity
citizen
of
the
year,
whereas
in
April
of
2022
Ms
born
managed
the
redistricting
process
that
occurs
every
10
years,
following
the
delivery
of
a
new
census,
data
for
federal
state
and
School
Board
lines
and
in
August
for
Council
lines.
Q
The
process
requires
identifying
appropriate
districts
for
each
address
in
the
county
by
by
Street
by
Street
in
the
street
range
encoding.
The
voter
registration
system
with
that
information,
whereas
during
the
year
2022
alone,
she
oversaw
the
successful
completion
of
four
elections,
which
included
four
days
of
the
same
day.
Voting
at
25
locations
50
days
of
early
voting,
three
different
sites
totaling
over
1640
hours,
as
well
as
providing
15
755
male
in
ballots
to
all
registered
voters
who
requested
them.
Q
Q
Now,
therefore,
the
Council
of
Columbus
Georgia
he'll,
probably
resolves
and
follows.
Nancy
Boren
is
commended
and
congratulated
for
her
continuing
years
of
dedicated
and
Professional
Service
rendered
to
the
citizens
of
Muskogee
County
as
the
Director
of
Elections
and
registration
number.
Two.
The
council
particularly
wishes
to
congratulate
Miss
Bohr
and
her
staff,
her
volunteers,
on
their
outstanding
efforts
during
the
2022
election
cycle,
during
which
they
provided
the
citizens,
easy
access
and
a
positive
experience
at
the
polls
and
ensure
the
insecure
and
secured
an
accurate
election
results.
T
A
U
I
I
wrote
some
notes
so
that
I
wouldn't
forget
anyone
to
accept
the
Commendation
representing
the
entire
team
of
Elections
and
voter
registration
personnel.
I'd
like
to
specifically
thank
the
mayor,
the
city
manager
and
Council
for
approving
the
necessary
funding
to
provide
critical
services
to
the
citizens
of
Muskogee
County
to
the
Board
of
Elections.
For
supporting
my
vision
of
where
the
department
should
be
and
letting
letting
me
help
us.
U
Hundreds
of
poll
workers,
Staffing
25
different
locations
over
14
hours,
volunteers
from
the
Republican
and
the
Democratic
party,
providing
bipartisan
confirmation
of
election
results
by
hand,
counting
paper
ballots
and
post-election
Audits,
and
to
the
numbers
of
Public
Service
organizations
like
the
League
of
Women
Voters
in
the
Urban
League,
who
has
assist
voters
on
election
day
and
year
round.
You
can
tell
too,
that
I'm
a
kind
of
behind
the
scenes
person
I
enjoy
being
behind
the
scenes,
much
more
than
I
do
in
front
of
a
views,
but
thank
you
for
the
recognition.
H
Thank
you,
mayor
and
I
wanted
to
comment
that
you
are
behind
the
scenes.
Most
people
don't
realize
that
you're
back
there
but
you're
the
foundation
of
democracy
in
this
County,
because
you
and
your
staff
make
sure
that
we
have
elections,
that
we
can
be
confident
in
are
right
and
you
set
the
standard
for
the
state,
I
think
and
how
elections
should
be
run
in
the
county.
So
thank
you
for
that.
H
Thank
you
for
putting
up
with
all
of
us,
because
I
know
you
hear
from
us
with
all
kinds
of
crazy
questions,
and
sometimes
from
citizens
with
interesting
questions
as
well,
and
you
always
stay
calm.
Yeah
I
mean
you
always
provide
an
answer.
So
thank
you
for
all
that
you've
done
and
for
all
that
you're
going
to
do
and
your
staff
as
well,
because
I
know
it's
not
just
you,
but
you
are
the
leader
of
a
bunch
of
folks
who
go
out
there
and
try
to
make
all
this
happen.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Nancy.
The
resolution
talked
a
lot
about
the
voting
and
the
external
part,
but
I
wanted
to
bring
forward
what
you
do
for
the
elected
officials,
because
we
have
so
much
paperwork
that
we
have
to
file
in
a
timely
manner.
In
order
to
you
know
what
is
it
you
know
to
follow
the
protocol
and
and
your
staff,
it
is
just
holds
our
hand
through
the
whole
process.
I
We
don't
think
about
those
little
details
that,
fortunately,
you
you
and
your
staff
are
there
to
help
us
through
that
and
answer
our
questions
for
the
300th
time,
because
we
have
to
do
these
things
once
a
year
or
and
so
I
wanted
to
bring
that
out
to
to
you're,
usually
doing
that
during
a
time
like
what
was
expressed
in
this
resolution.
I
You're
doing
that
on
the
other
end
too,
and
so
it
has
been
a
very
very
busy
year
for
you,
and
we
hope
that
you
can
just
kind
of
relax,
maybe
a
little
bit
in
2023,
but
knowing
you
I,
don't
think
so.
You
are
not
the
type
of
person
to
sit
on
your
laurels.
You
will
be
working
and
preparing
for.
What's
going
to
happen
in
two
years,
so
we
thank
you
for
everything
that
you
do.
C
R
Mrs
born
I
just
want
to
personally
thank
you
and
I
Echo.
What
councilor
Davis
said
is
we
do
set
the
standard
in
the
state
when
we
have
individuals
calling
about
what's
going
on
in
Fulton,
County
and
other
counties.
I'm
like
we
don't
have
those
issues
here
in
Muskogee,
County
and
one
thing
I
do
appreciate
every
time.
I
call
you
with
a
question
a
question
or
concern
from
the
citizens
or
those
other
agencies.
R
You
you
answer,
you
know
quickly,
you
send
me
the
emails
when
the
Court
ruling
came
out
that
you
know
Saturdays,
were
you
know
legal?
You
made
it
happen.
You
know
that
was
it
was
instantly
it.
It
was.
You
know
a
conversation
that
was
had
and
you
you
you
made
things
happen
and
you
always
do
for
us
and
I
appreciate
you
and
I
will
say
and
continue
to
say
when
anybody
calls,
whether
it's
ACLU
or
whoever
Muskogee
County
does
not
have
issues
like
not
only
state
of
Georgia
but
other
states.
R
M
M
You
always
are
there
the
next
day
at
seven
o'clock
in
the
morning,
I,
don't
know
how
many
conversations
I
was
in
during
the
election
season
when
all
on
the
news
was
all
these
people
who
were
voting
and
it
was
record
crowds
and
and
all
of
these
you
know,
and
how
many
times
I
heard
somebody
in
one
of
those
conversations
say:
oh
well,
I
voted
in
Columbus
and
it
took
me
10
minutes.
M
You
know,
and
it
was
because
of
the
structure
that
you
put
in
place
to
do
the
early
voting
and
then
to
do
the
regular
voting
on
Election
Day,
and
we
can't
thank
you
enough
for
that
when,
when
I
hear
other
people
say
well,
you
know
election
officials
are
doing
this,
that
you
know
not
in
Columbus,
not
Muskogee,
County,
Nancy
Boren
wouldn't
put
up
with
that
stuff,
and
we
appreciate
I
think
not
only
this
Council
but
the
citizens
of
Columbus.
The
efforts
that
you
make
to
make
this
a
a
an
easy
thing
to
do.
M
To
vote,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
that
it
stays
that
way,
that
it's
easy
to
vote
and
that
everybody
goes
to
vote
and
that
those
numbers
that
councilor
Davis
read
that
were
record
numbers
that
they
are
improved
at
the
next
election
and
that
we
continue
to
do
that
and
I
know
that
that's
number
one
on
your
list.
I
can't
thank
you
enough,
Miss
born
for
what
you
do
and
for
the
service
that
you
give
this
community
and
the
behind
the
scenes.
M
I
I
was
delighted
when
I
saw
on
the
agenda
that
this
resolution
was
coming
to
bring
you
forward
and
to
bring
you
out
so
that
not
only
this
council
could
say
thank
you,
but
the
entire
Muskogee
County
can
say.
Thank
you,
Miss
Boren
for
you
and
your
staff
and
what
you
do
for
us.
Thanks.
A
L
If
what,
if
and
you've
been
very
patient
with
me
to
sit
there,
either
with
a
calculator
or
just
thinking
it
through
trying
to
figure
it
out
for
your
efforts
to
with
you
and
your
board
to
try
to
create
an
opportunity
for
us
to
continuously
increase
voting
in
Muscogee
County,
we've
had
the
conversation
about
us
always
being
in
the
30-something
percentile
and
trying
to
to
hit
41
day
and
above
to
get
there,
but
we
can
say
that
Muskogee
County
is
not
a
county
where
you're
having
difficulty
voting.
L
C
N
N
I've
talked
to
a
number
during
their
hectic
times
because,
as
Charming
brought
up
many
times
on
the
elections
times,
there
were
paperwork
that
you
personally
called
me
on
and
said.
You
need
to
get
over
here
real,
quick
and
sign
this
here
and
I,
not
just
once
a
number
of
times.
I
sincerely
appreciate
you
doing
that,
but
you
went
on
something
else.
Every
time
I
come
there,
you're
like
this
here
and
that's
what
a
good
leader
a
good
leader
does
not
Channel
stress
downward
and
you
have
an
excellent
staff
that
are
very
patient.
N
I
was
up
with
a
senior
citizen
that
had
many
questions
about
absentee
ballots.
A
person
the
young
man
took
his
time
with
that
person
that
person
was
walked
and
there's
been.
Your
staff
is
just
phenomenal,
but
it
starts
with
the
leadership
and
as
councilor
Davis
counselor
Tucker
says.
Other
areas
may
have
their
problems
banana,
not
here
I.
N
C
I
S
S
Your
work
ethic,
your
integrity,
earned
respect,
you've,
earned
respect
over
the
years
and
and
I
can
tell
you
when
Council
Davis
read
the
resolution
that
earned
respect
was
evident
in
the
organizations
that
have
recognized
U.N
and
bless
you
with
the
recognition
Awards
in
in
that
resolution
that
he
read
and-
and
you
know,
I'm
proud
to
say
that
you
know
I
went
to
the
a
program
in
November
and
it
was
a
program
by
the
greatest
fraternity,
African-American
Fraternity
in
the
world,
from
November,
17,
1911.
and
I
know.
S
It's
earned
and,
and
you
earned
it,
and
so
it's
earned
respect
and
Urban
League
and
others
that
you
named
and
that
resolution
let's
earn
the
respect,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
to
recognize
that
acknowledge
that
and
thank
you
for
that
earned
respect
for
your
leadership
and
and
all
that
goes
along
with
it.
Thank
you.
S
C
Was
born,
I
I,
don't
think
there's
any
words
left,
let
alone
ideas
to
wrap
them
around
other
than
to
tell
you
that
we
are
fortunate
that
you
do
what
you're
doing
and
where
you
do
it
I
don't
know.
If
people
realize
the
reputation
that
you've
established
around
the
country
and
it's
because
of
your
knowledge
and
your
professionalism
and
I
know,
you've
sat
on
panels.
You've
sat
on
educational
organizations,
you
have
been
called
to
testify
throughout
the
state
of
Georgia,
and
you
just
you
just
do
you
do
your
job?
C
Q
Yes,
mayor
I
just
wanted
to
say
again
two
events
2022
that
were
extraordinary
of
insignificant
and
they
were
handled
by
I,
won't
say
it.
This
way,
two
Extraordinary
People
in
in
mayor
and
Council
I
want
to
thank
all
of
y'all
that
today
we
had
an
opportunity
to
celebrate
and
recognize
exceptionalism.
That's
what
it's
about
so
I
just
want
to.
Thank
all
of
us
I.
Think
me
being
able
to
read
that
really
reflects
all
of
us.
This
was,
on
behalf
of
the
whole
Council,
the
mayor
in
executive
Management,
in
recognizing
exceptionalism
today.
For
those
two
events.
Q
F
A
lot
of
people
don't
know
that
she
has
been
involved
in
a
lot
of
litigation,
some
of
it
frivolous,
but
in
the
last
few
years,
some
of
it
very
serious
against
the
state
and
our
different
County
boards
and,
like
the
mayor,
said,
she
has
given
testimony
that
helped
our
state
and
Columbus
when
necessary
and
gone
to
a
lot
of
hearings
with
a
lot
of
lawyers,
and
that
doesn't
get
a
lot
of
press.
But
we
appreciate
all
the
time
it
takes
to
do
that.
Thank.
C
F
Right
mayor,
just
one
more
note
of
encouragement
to
the
council
with
respect
to
the
audit
committee,
the
voters
have
charged
you
with
creating
the
committee
and,
of
course,
giving
y'all
some
homework.
At
least
two
of
you
that
will
be
on
that
committee.
C
Right,
thank
you
all
right.
Next
is
public
agenda
and
I'll
remind
those
of
you
that
are
appearing
on
public
agenda,
that
you've
got
five
minutes
and
if
you're
unable
to
complete
your
remarks
in
five
minutes,
we
will
cut
you
off,
but
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
come
back
after
the
clerk's
agenda
for
an
additional
three
minutes.
If
you
were
unable
to
to
complete
your
thoughts.
First
is
Miss
Pat
Fray,
representing
the
United
Way
and
home
for
good
regarding
the
2023
Muskogee
Russell
point
in
time
count
Miss
Frey.
Thank
you.
Thank.
V
You,
sir,
thank
you
and
happy
New
Year
to
everyone.
I
won't
take
the
full
five
minutes
and
congratulations
to
those
recognized
it's
it's
nice.
From
from
my
female
perspective.
It's
it's
it's!
It's!
It's
long
overdue!
Sometimes
that
we
see
women
in
leadership
recognize
for
their
their
dedication.
V
It's
that
time
of
year
again,
we
know
when
the
cold
snaps
hit
it's
time
for
us
to
to
start
preparing
and
getting
ready
for
our
annual
point
in
time
count
we're
back
to
the
regular
schedule
of
doing
it
in
the
last
10
days
of
January
again
past
couple
years,
if
you'll
remember,
because
of
the
covid-19
pandemic,
we
we
took
a
breather
and
we're
given
a
waiver
to
move
the
point
in
time
count
to
the
end
of
February.
V
So
we
try
to
avoid
post-holiday
surge
of
infection
of
volunteers
of
covid,
but
we're
back
to
the
end
of
January
I'm,
not
going
to
read
you
the
papers
and
I'm
just
going
to.
Let
you
guys
look
at
that
at
your
leisure,
just
a
little
bit
about
what
the
point
in
time
count
is
for
those
of
you
who
are
not
familiar.
V
It's
a
mandate
that
we
have
for
the
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban
Development
to
physically
enumerate
everyone
experiencing
homelessness
in
our
community,
but
we
take
it
a
step
further.
We
don't
just
go
and
count
heads.
What
we
do
is
we
assess
needs.
We
have
about
a
17
question
survey
that
we
do,
which
mirrors
the
intake
we
do
in
our
normal
day-to-day
life.
So
again
it
starts
the
process
of
getting
someone
from
homelessness
to
housing
at
that
initial,
in
interaction.
V
So
we're
doing
those
those
assessments
of
those
experiencing
homelessness,
then
making
sure
that
we're
making
connections
within
that
week
of
with
those
individuals
and
families
that
are
experiencing
homelessness
to
resources
that
can
help
them
to
access
temporary
and
then
ultimately,
permanent
housing.
V
Last
year
we
were
a
little
had
a
little
trepidation
about
what
the
numbers
would
look
like,
because
everybody
across
the
country
was
predicting
a
15
to
20
percent
increase
in
numbers,
so
we
were
projecting
that
just
to
to
so
we
had
some
cushion.
We
did
have
a
two
percent
increase
in
in
homelessness
of
between
20,
21
and
2022,
and
we
are
anticipating
about
that
this
year,
maybe
a
little
bit
more.
V
We've
had
some
real
issues
with
affordable
housing,
I
should
say:
safe,
affordable
housing,
accessibility,
not
only
in
our
community
but
in
communities
across
the
country,
we're
recruiting
volunteers.
We
start
training
next
week
next
Monday
morning.
I
believe
it
is
at
10
o'clock
is
our
first
training
session.
V
V
If
not,
if
you
want
to
come
just
as
an
observer
to
see
how
it
goes,
we
get
a
cross-section
believe
it
or
not,
a
community
participation
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
good
a
good
idea
of
what's
going
on
and
people
get
a
real
unique
perspective
and
there
are
people
who
come
out
every
year
because
in
their
words
it
keeps
me
grounded
and
and
I
I
can
really
understand
what
how
blessed
that
most
of
us
really
are.
V
C
R
Yes,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
what
you
do.
I've
been
knowing
Pat
since
2014.
I've
actually
worked
with
the
veteran
homeless
population,
so
you
know
I
appreciate
you.
Can
you
tell
us
one
more
time
about
the
sign
up
for
the
training
yeah.
V
I
will
send
a
link
to
Clerk
of
council,
so
she
can
send
it
out
to
everybody
that
way.
I
don't
make
I
make
sure
I,
don't
miss
anyone,
and
that
way
it
can
also
be
posted
as
part
of
the
official
notes.
But
it's
on
our
website,
it's
United,
cv.org
or
at
home
for
goodcv.org.
You
can
sign
up
to
volunteer.
We
do
our
training.
The
training
is
virtual.
V
It
takes
about
30
minutes.
We
have
a
really
cool
app
that
we
use
our
phones
boom
boom
boom
and
we'll
we'll
take
about
two
weeks
of
play.
Surveys
just
to
get
everyone
into
into
the
groove
and
everything
else,
and
so
it's
really
really
a
really
easy
to
do,
but
really
impacted.
V
Shelter
the
shelter
count.
Yes
right,
you're
correct
it's
a
two-day
event:
Monday
the
23rd.
We
do
our
sheltered
count
where
we'll
go
out
about
5
30
to
6
o'clock
in
the
evening
to
all
of
the
shelters
in
our
community
and
do
the
surveys
with
the
residents
of
the
shelter
on
that
night.
We
wrapped
that
up,
usually
between
8
and
8
30
and
then
the
next
morning
we're
back
at
5
30.
Some
of
us
don't
sleep
that
night,
but
we're
back
at
5
30.
V
The
next
morning
we
have
escorts
from
Muskogee
County
Sheriff's
Department
Columbus
Police
Department
Phoenix
City
Police
Department
Russell,
County,
Sheriff's,
Department,
Columbus,
State,
University
Police
is
participating
this
year
as
escorts
as
well,
and
as
as
surveyors,
we'll
go
out
to
the
Riverwalk
under
bridges
and
everywhere
in
between
any
kind
of
encampments
that
we
have
or
or
may
have
spotted.
We
have
people
out
now
surveying
the
community
in
total
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
miss
anybody
so
that
that
count
will
start
at
six
o'clock.
V
I
said
we'll
hit
the
streets
about
5,
30ish
start
counting
at
six
and
that'll
go
to
around
noon
that
day.
All
right.
Thanks
Pat,
thank
you.
Thank.
L
Huff.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
question
on
the
past
that
we
use
any
of
the
information
that
we
gathered
in
the
past
and
working
with
homelessness
for.
V
This
it
absolutely
drives
how
we
do
our
community.
So
when
we're
looking
at
you,
we
focus
on
single
adults
experiencing
homelessness.
Do
we
focus
on
families
experiencing
homelessness?
Are
we
looking
at
those
with
a
past
a
history
with
the
criminal
justice
system?
Are
we
looking
with
those
with
mental
illness,
substance
abuse?
V
All
of
those
are
in
those
little
17
question
surveys
that
we
do
and
that
helps
us
to
drive
what
we're
looking
at
when
we're
setting
up
programs
and
everything
else,
I
think
I
was
just
talking
to
the
sheriff
about
a
program
that
we're
we're
looking
to
to
work
with
the
Department
of
Housing,
Urban,
Development
and
and
samsa,
which
is
mental
health
and
substance,
abuse
Administration
to
those
who,
with
with
history
in
the
in
the
criminal
justice
system
and
helping
them,
make
those
transitions
back
to
the
community
and
we've
seen
a
lot
of
that
in
in
the
numbers.
L
I
was
just
wondering
making
sure
we
didn't
duplicate,
maybe
some
answers
that
we
have
already
from
the
past
and
moving
forward.
V
People
you
take
forces
and
join
forces
and
understand
that
one
one
organization
or
one
one
person
can't
do
it
all.
But
if
you
do
this
well,
let
me
do
what
I
do
then.
You
can
do
that
and
then
you'll
do
the
other,
so
so
making
sure
that
it's
a
collaborative
effort
and
it's
not
a
my
client,
your
client
thing.
It's
our
community
member.
L
Has
there
been
any
movement
as
far
as
the
people
who
are
out
for
lack
of
a
better
word
under
the
bridges
that
want
that
want
to
be
there?
They
don't
want
to
come
in.
Has
there
been
any
movement
on
how
we
are
attract
them
to
come
off
the
street?
We.
V
Ure
for
four
or
five
years
who
are
now
sheltered:
okay,
so
we're
making
stress
and
it's
about
those
relationships
and
that
trust
and
going
back
time
and
time
and
time
again
to
say:
are
you
ready?
Are
you
ready
and
it's
so
it's
about
the
community
showing
up
and
showing
up
and
doing
what
you
say:
you're
going
to
do
every
time.
Okay,.
V
C
W
Teresa
Alami,
39,
11
steam,
Mill
Road
gentrification,
is
something
that
a
lot
of
folks
don't
fully
comprehend
of
the
CDC
has
an
archived
website,
because
the
program
where
the
CDC
identify
gentrification
as
a
health
issue
is
no
longer
funded.
W
W
Displacement
happens
when
long
time
or
original
neighborhood
residents
move
from
a
gentrified
area
because
of
higher
rents,
mortgages
and
property
taxes.
Gentrification
is
a
housing,
economic
and
health
issue
that
affects
a
community's
history
and
culture
and
reduces
Social
Capital.
It
often
shifts
a
neighborhood's
characteristics,
racial
ethnic
composition
and
household
income
by
adding
new
stores
and
resources
and
previously
run
down
neighborhoods
well.
Columbus
is
unique
because
Columbus
has
a
property
tax
freeze.
W
However,
in
Durham
we
would
say
when
Starbucks
shows
up.
You
know
your
gentrified
on
Macon
Road,
with
Panera
Bread
and
Starbucks
showed
up
I,
say
it's
all:
tax
tax
allocation
districts
when
I
heard
that
30
years
giving
you
the
power
to
say
what
the
economic
development
is.
I've
watched
that
carefully
I
voted
against
it,
because
citizens
shouldn't
give
up
that
right.
But
what
you
should
know
is
that
in
Midtown,
just
look
at
what's
happening:
gentrification
picture
gentrification
in
the
Buena
Vista
Corridor,
Mr
city,
council,
member
Mr,
Barnes,
I,
I.
W
Just
think
it's
important
for
those
of
you
who
are
associated
with
real
estate.
I
handed
you
something
at
the
last
counsel
me
about
my
personal
situation
on
gentrification,
because
the
investors
coming
in
here
from
out
west
buying
up
properties
and
raising
the
rents,
unbelievable
I,
haven't
opened
records.
Requests
in
for
the
number
of
evictions.
W
I've
already
talked
to
Captain
Stinson
in
the
Sheriff's
Office,
and
she
said
it's
a
lie:
she's
getting
that
data
together,
so
I'll
be
back
in
a
couple
of
months
to
talk
about.
But
what
you
should
know
is
that
on
January
26
at
the
Columbus
Public
Library
6
p.m.
You
might
want
to
be
there.
I'll
send
out
some
information
to
the
clerk
as
soon
as
a
flyer.
W
It's
ready,
affordable
housing,
Justice,
we're
gonna,
start
attendance
organization
in
this
community
to
fight
back
I
go
to
court
today
at
1,
45
Municipal
Court,
to
face
those
investors
trying
to
evict
me
after
12
years,
so
I
do
know
in
real
time
what
the
investors
are
doing
in
this
community,
raising
the
rents
to
so
the
affordable
housing.
It's
just
Out
Of
Reach.
Even
for
a
person
like
me.
C
All
right
next
Mr
Marvin
Broadwater
senior,
representing
the
state
of
Georgia
organization
of
Omega,
Psi
5.
fraternity
regarding
an
announcement
of
fatherhood
conversation
welcome,
Mr,
Broadwater,
good.
C
C
And
happy
birthday
to
Reverend
Chester.
X
Good
morning
Mr
Mayor,
mayor
Pro,
tem
city,
council,
members
and
Mr
City
attorney
and
Mr
city
manager,
I
pray.
You
are
well
and
happy
New
Year,
my
name
is
Marvin
broad
with
a
senior
I
reside
at
3004
Slippery
Rock,
Court,
Columbus,
Georgia,
31909
I
stand
here
with
my
illustrious
colleagues
Reverend
Adrian
Chester
and
Mr
Nate
Sanderson
members
of
the
city
manager,
says
the
greatest
fraternity
known
to
man
Omega
Sci-Fi
fraternity.
As
always,
we
thank
you
for
your
continued
servant.
Leadership
in
this
community.
X
This
program
has
been
conducted
in
over
30
cities
in
our
great
state
to
just
name
a
few
Marietta
Savannah
Augusta
Conyers,
Covington,
Albany,
Thomasville,
Decatur,
Cartersville
and
Rome,
and
we're
here
again
as
this
program
has
come
full
circle
and
we
are
about
to
conduct
our
35th
installation
of
this
program.
And
let
me
give
you
a
couple
of
stats
for
those
of
you
that,
like
status
in
just
the
last
year
alone,
this
program,
just
the
last
year
alone,
found
jobs,
employment
for
1500
fathers.
But
that's
not
the
most
impressive
thing.
X
The
most
impressive
thing
is
that
we
put
the
father
back
in
the
lives
of
240
000
children
in
the
state
of
Georgia.
So
this
program
is
a
success
and
just
to
give
you
an
idea,
those
fathers
who
are
unaware
of
the
services
and
benefits
this
program
affords
will
have
a
chance
to
engage
the
subject
matter.
Experts.
X
The
goals
of
the
fatherhood
conversation
are
to
inform
the
community
of
the
numerous
services
offered
to
the
non-custodial
parent,
especially
fathers,
and
to
dispel
any
misconceptions
of
the
Georgia
Department
of
Human
Services
fatherhood
programs,
topics
to
be
discussed,
but
not
limited
to
are
driver's
license.
Reinstatement,
Child,
Support,
Services,
GED,
enrollment
one
one.
Young
man
entered
the
program.
He
was
making
zero
dollars
in
one
year.
He
went
from
zero
councilman
house
to
eighty
three
thousand
dollars
because
he
he
got
his
CDL
license.
So
this
program
works.
X
We
believe
all
challenging
issues
facing
our
government
and
policy
making
bodies
are
interrelated
crime,
economy,
homelessness,
unemployment,
domestic
violence,
child
abuse,
neglect,
drug
use,
prison
population,
poverty
and
a
plethora
of
other
challenging
Community
concerns.
If
we
damn
the
radiance
on
one
issue,
we
consequently
decrease
the
radiance
of
another.
Simultaneously
fathers
who
find
themselves
in
child
support
arrears
will
benefit
tremendously
from
this
program.
The
plan
is
to
blanket
the
city
and
inform
all
citizens
of
this
program
and
its
benefits.
I
I
yield
back
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
and
councilman.
C
C
M
City
manager
is
this
on
our
website
this
information,
particularly
the
scan
codes.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
that
goes
up,
so
that
I
would
like
for
us
to
do
that
if
we
can
to
get
that
up
on
the
city
website,
so
that
people
can
can
take
advantage
of
it.
R
Yes-
and
it
was
really
in
response
to
what
Miss
Ella
Maine
mentioned
in
reference
to
housing,
I
was
at
accgs
board
meeting,
and
that
was
one
of
the
main
conversations
that
we
had
around
the
table
was
the
housing
issues
that
we're
having
and
it's
complex
issues
and
exactly
what
Miss
Ella
Maine
was
mentioned.
R
But
Georgia
is
number
two
out
of
all
the
states.
We,
we
have
the
highest
number
of
institutional
investors
and
that's
why
it
is
really
top
right
now
on
the
legislative
agenda,
even
though
we
didn't
approve
it
here
in
Muscogee
County.
But
it
is
number
one
one.
The
the
most
I
mean
it's.
R
It's
just
really
bad,
because
right
now
people
really
are
being
priced
out
of
their
communities,
and
it's
very
unfortunate,
so
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
that
it
is
being
looked
at,
even
though
it's
not
being
looked
at
right
here.
It's
been
looked
at
with
me,
because
I
do
sit
on
that
committee
and
I
mentioned
that
we
don't
want
to
just
be
a
Metro
Atlanta
issue
that
this
folk.
R
This
is
a
urban,
suburban
and
Rural
issue,
so
you
have
a
voice
right
now
on
the
state
level
and
on
the
national
level,
so
I
just
wanted
to.
C
R
We
we
had
those
conversations
and
it
does
get
very
partisan,
and
you
know
when
we
sit
in
those
rooms
this
on
on
those
levels
with
accg.
Those
are
partisan
positions,
those
counting
positions.
R
So
we
had
some
real
conversations
in
that
room,
and
that
is
one
of
the
issues
is
governmental
policies,
regulations
and
laws,
and
that
is
what's
holding
up
Georgia,
where
in
other
states
like
New,
York
and
I,
mean
I
hate
to
say
it,
but
Democrat
led
states
they're,
doing
more
of
the
rent,
controls
and
they're
seeing
less
of
the
issues,
but
in
areas
like
Georgia,
we're
are
really
becoming
is
and
we're
becoming
like
one
of
the
main
issues.
So
it
is
a
national
issue
and
I
just
want
to
put
it
out
there.
So.
C
R
I
Some
of
the
actions
I've
taken
on
this
subject
is
I,
have
got.
I
have
been
in
contact
with
the
local
Columbus
board
of
realtors
president,
the
new
one
Doug
Jeffcoat,
and
we
he
has
initiated
a
new
committee,
which
is
the
property
management
committee,
and
so
I'll
be
working
with
him.
On
that
also,
we
will
have
a
new
president
for
the
Georgia
Association
of
Realtors
next
week.
I
That
convention
is
going
to
be
here
in
Columbus,
and
one
of
our
own
Lisa
Scully
will
be
inaugurated
and
so
I
feel
that
we
have
two
very
good
positions
here
in
Columbus,
where
the
board
that
are
able
to
talk
with
the
mayor
and
myself
on
this
issue
and
come
up
with
some
solutions
from
the
standpoint
from
the
landlord's
perspective
also,
and
because
there's
there's
there
will
be
no
success.
If
we
choose
landlords
versus
tenants,
they
have
to
work
together
and
they,
and
so
those
are
the
position.
I
C
Y
John
Scott
Columbus
Georgia
street.
Y
Wilshire
Columbus
Georgia,
thank
you
I'm
here
to
address
you
on
and
I'm
really
enjoyed
what
I've
heard
so
far.
Today.
Y
Can
you
hear
me,
okay,
but
I'm
here,
to
address
you
because
the
at
the
direction
of
the
FBI
and
the
Department
of
Justice
and
the
Attorney
General's
office
I
spoke
to
them
in
regards
to
a
matter
of
this
locally,
and
when
I
heard
you
discussing
responsibility,
accountability,
transparency,
you
couldn't
have
hit
the
nail
better
on
the
head
and
in
regards
to
the
Columbus
Police
Department.
There
is
none
of
any
of
that
and
I
come
from
a
well-respected
family.
Y
Some
of
the
council
members
know
me,
but
man
I
spoke
to
the
mayor
in
regards
to
some
of
this,
but
I
mean
I
grew
up
in
Columbus
I've
been
here
50
years
eagle
scout
scout
match
for
several
years.
I
was
a
actually
over
four
cities,
a
director
over
the
scouts
for
Auburn
Phoenix,
City,
Columbus,
Pine
Mountain
overall
District,
commissioner
and
I
had
top
secret
clearance.
When
I
went
in
the
Navy,
they
went
all
the
way.
Y
Back
to
my
sixth
grade
teacher,
actually
called
my
mother
up
to
say:
you
realize
they're
checking
him
out
this
much
so
I've
I've
been
around
a
lot
of
people
and
I
was
raised
by
my
dad,
was
retired,
colonel
from
Fort
Benning
Brigade
Commander
out
there
for
armor,
and
he
raised
me
right.
He
raised
my
brother
right.
We
never
had
any
incidences
with
the
police
in
our
entire
life
50
years
no
problems,
but
we
ran
into
a
situation
here.
Y
While
I
was
falsely
arrested
about
three
years
ago
before
well
by
the
time
copen
broke
out
and
they
it
didn't,
make
it
the
trial
they
threw
it
out.
But
the
problem
was
the
automobile
that
my
mother
had
was
searched
and
I
have
no
problem
with
that
either,
except
when
they
searched
the
property
that
was
in
there
and
they
removed
it.
They
never
returned
it.
So,
of
course,
I
consult
with
the
head
of
the
police
department,
the
chief
police.
Y
He
never
returned
a
phone
call
in
a
year
and
a
half
I've
been
struggling
with
this,
because
my
mother's
estate
cannot
be
settled.
This
property
is
part
of
her
estate
and
we
asked
the
chief
police
to
return
to
Pongo.
Never
once
in
a
year
and
a
half,
we
did
speak
to
his
Sergeant
several
other
people
in
there
and
they
assured,
as
they
were,
looking
into
it,
but
they
also
assured
us
they
can't
find
the
property.
Y
They
have
no
idea
what
the
police
officer
did
with
it,
and
my
mother's
attorney,
a
state
attorney
actually
went
down
to
the
police
department
himself
and
said:
listen
I
need
to
sign
for
her
property
and
the
Lady
or
the
office
who
of
the
officer
was
that
took
the
property,
told
him
it'll
be
a
cold
day
and
I'm,
quoting
her
it'll,
be
a
cold
day
in
Hell.
Y
Before
you
see
a
penny
of
that,
and
this
was
to
a
highly
respected
attorney,
I,
don't
know
if
you
all
know
Joe
Powell,
but
he's
a
real
estate
attorney
been
around
here
for
40
years
was
treated
like
dirt
total
disrespect
and
there
again
he's
pursuing
this
legally
in
the
courts
too.
Now
because
he
had
no
other
choice
and
for
this
to
happen
to
myself,
I
can
only
imagine
what's
going
on
and
I
had
an
attorney
when
they
arrested
me.
Y
But
I
can
only
imagine
what's
going
on
with
the
people
in
Columbus
Georgia
when
they
have
no
attorney
when
there's
property
is
confiscated
when
it's
not
returned
and
it
took
it's
a
year
and
a
half
and
I
still
don't
have
that
poverty
returned
to
my
mother's
estate.
What
chance
did
they
have
so?
Yes,
responsibility,
accountability
and
transparency
in
the
Columbus
Police
Department
I
will
start
with
an
audit
and
I
I,
because
I
expect
that's
what
the
if
it
goes
to
the
attorney
general,
the
United
States.
Y
It's
nothing
compared
to
everybody
else's
I'm,
nothing
special
in
Columbus
Georgia!
So
if
they're
doing
it
to
me,
they're
doing
it
to
everybody
else,
you
have
200
000
people
over
200
000
people
in
Columbus
Georgia.
What
chance
do
they
have
of
having
those,
and
is
the
police
can't
find
it?
It's
not
that
it's
disappear
one
way
or
the
other
this
was
removed
legally.
This
is
the
the
property
was
on
the
police
department's
property
in
their
parking
lot.
Y
When
they
did
this,
so
it's
not
like
it
got
lost
from
their
to
to
going
inside
and
put
in
the
right
place.
It
was
never
put
in
the
right
place
according
to
the
police
department,
they
said
we
have
no
accountability
of
it.
We
don't
know
what
what
the
officer
did
with
it.
We
don't
know
where
they
put
it
and
the
fact
that
she
told
the
attorney
you
have
a
you
know
zero
chance
of
finding.
Y
This
lends
people
to
believe
that
maybe
that
person's
absconded
some
of
this
property
or
has
removed
it
or
hidden
it
either
way.
But
it's
not
been
returned.
This
type
of
behavior
from
the
Columbus
Police
Department
is
unconscionable
and
I.
Just
invoking
your
participation
and
the
mayor
he's
already
tried
once
he
spoke
to
the
chief
police
and
nothing
happened
so
I'm
going
to
look
at
the
whole
council's
just
patient
in
this
to
investigate
the
Columbus
Police
Department
find
out
how
many
people
have
lost
go
back
to
this,
whoever
this
person
that
hid
this
piece
of
evidence.
C
Z
Z
Okay,
the
case
that
was
just
alluded
to
was
a
criminal
investigation,
the
the
case,
the
investigators
that
worked
on
this
case
actually
made
a
a
very
good
case.
The
decision
not
to
prosecute
the
case
was
a
decision
based
upon
circumstances
from
the
assistant
district
attorney.
That
was
Prosecuting
the
case.
It
was
based
on.
Z
That
were
beyond
the
assistant,
District
Attorney's
controlled,
for
example,
the
key
witness
in
this
case
was
they
not
competent
enough
to
stand
trial
and
the
so
the
Ada
decision.
District
attorney
did
not
want
to
go
forward
with
the
case.
In
fact,
the
assistant
district
attorney
responded
during
our
complaint
investigation
from
Mr
Scott.
The
assistant
district
attorney
responded
as
to
the
reason
why
the
case
was
not
continued.
Z
In
fact,
the
assistant
District
Attorneys
stated
that
detected
through
it
at
that
time.
She's
detective
Enfield
now
so
she
made
a
very
good
case
and,
and
he
applauded
her
for
making
that
that
case,
and
so
it
was
not
dismissed
for
it
not
being
a
good
case
or
they're,
not
being
probable
cause.
So
there
was
not
a
false
arrest
that
was
made
regarding
this
particular
case.
Z
In
addition
to
that,
during
this
investigation,
the
estate
was
turned
over
to
the
Probate
Court,
where,
where
that
was
handled
during
the
investigation,
since
the
criminal
investigation
has
been
resolved,
the
state
has
been
resolved
and
turned
back
over
to
the
family
and
I
know.
I
have
assistant
chief
Kennedy
here
as
well
as
the
investigator
for
the
case
here.
If
there
are
more
detailed
questions
regarding
the
case,
I.
C
Think
the
main
thing
that
is
concerning
is:
is
there
if
there's
any,
if
there's
any
property
that
was
taken
and
then
not
returned,
I
mean
I,
think
that
was
the
gentleman's
primary
concern
right.
Z
Based
on
the
investigation
based
on
the
the
Personnel
complaint
investigation,
as
well
as
the
criminal
investigation,
there's,
no,
there
was
no
property
that
was
taken
and
not
return
back
to
this
Mr
Scott
or
the
family.
The
the
estate
for
the
victim
was
turning
over
to
the
probate
court,
and
the
judge
was
here
earlier
and
stated
that
that
court,
that
our
state
has
been
turned
back
over
to
the
family.
Z
Z
Yeah
and
as
a
matter
of
what
was
alleged
is
that
the
the
currency
that
was
taken,
the
our
financial
crimes
unit,
the
state
statute,
governs
what
can
be
seized
and
what
cannot
be
seized
according
to
the
statute
regarding
seizures
related
to
financial
crimes
cases
Financial
crimes
unit
was
not
even
entitled
to
be
able
to
make
a
seizure.
Regarding
that
particular
case,.
I
I'd
like
to
request
that
officer,
Kennedy
and
Truitt
come
up
and
give
their
their
side
of
this
story.
M
I'm
not
sure
that
this
is
the
proper
venue
for
those
kinds
of
conversations.
I
think
that
that
the
police
department
and
Mr
Scott
need
to
do
whatever
you
need
to
do
to
clear
this
up.
I
think
the
issue
that
this
Council
has
is
the
is
the
contact
is
returning
phone
calls
that
sort
of
thing
I
don't
want
us
to
get
involved
in.
He
said
she
said
this
is
what
happened.
This
is
what
happened.
I
I!
Just
don't
think
this
is
the
proper
place
to
do
that.
Mr
Mayor
can.
C
M
C
And
I
think
I
think
that
the
primary
thing
I
wanted,
the
chief
to
be
able
to
say,
is
if,
in
fact,
there
was
some
kind
of
evidence
that
was
taken
out
of
there.
That
was
not
returned
and
and
of
course,
I
think.
What
we're
hearing
from
the
police
department
is
that
everything
that
was
anything
that
was
taken
out
of
there
has
been
returned
and.
M
Z
C
Z
Just
to
be
clear,
since
I've,
been
chief
police
I've
not
been
contacted
by
Mr
Scott.
Regarding
this
case
now,
when
I
was
a
major
three
four
years
ago,
in
this
case,
it
was
initiated.
I
spoke
to
him
by
phone
regarding
this
particular
case,
as
I
was
over
the
office
of
Professional
Standards.
But
since
I've,
been
chief
police
I've
not
been
contacted
by
him
or
requested
to
contact
you,
and
so
members
of
my
department
have
been
in
communication
with
him
and
that's
how
the
complaint
process
was
taken.
Z
So
Lieutenant
Dow
from
our
Robert
and
salt
investigations
unit
initiated
a
complaint
based
on
Mrs
Scott's,
bringing
that
to
his
attention
and
that
complaint
was
investigated
through
our
normal
protocol
of
Investigation.
As.
M
A
C
A
F
R
Is
this
something
that
the
Public
Safety
advisory
there's.
C
An
attorney
involved,
I,
wouldn't
I,
wouldn't
recommend
a
public
safety
advisory
commission
to
get
involved
in
it.
It's
already
started
towards
adjudication
the
the
legal
process,
all
right,
any
further
questions
for
the
chief
chief.
Thank
you
for
being
here
appreciate
your
patience.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
as
well.
C
S
S
S
They
owned
that
location
in
May
of
2019,
Best
Buy
was
going
to
sell
the
property
and
they
provided
the
city
with
a
permanent
access
easement,
and
there
was
a
resolution
for
that
permanent
access,
easement
and
then,
of
course,
Uptown
Columbus
approached
the
city
about
relocating
Katie
dekal
to
the
Uptown
area,
and
we
did
a
memorandum
of
understanding.
C
C
So
if
you
would
cue
it
a
few
counselors,
you
can
enter
your
votes
once
you're
yeah,
you
can
register
your
votes
now
and
both
mayor
Pro,
tem
and
counselor
Garrett
has
voted.
S
Affirmatively
so
next
mayor
I've
got
Uptown,
Columbus
and
I
know.
Ed
Warburton
is
here:
City
Chattahoochee,
River,
Park
Management
lease
agreement
renewal.
S
We
had
a
10-year
agreement
with
them
and
it's
now
time
for
Renewal
and
under
the
terms
of
the
agreement,
Uptown
Columbus
Inc
will
be
responsible
for
all
the
things
that
they've
been
responsible
for
over
the
last
10
years
from
procurement
and
oversight
of
Outfitters
at
City
designated
river
access
points
to
access
control,
coordination
with
the
CPD
on
security,
coordination
with
Columbus
Fire,
EMS
and
Department
of
Natural
Resources
safety
and
rescue
maintenance
and
trash
removal
at
the
city
designated
river
access
point
maintaining
of
in
River
white
water
features,
they'll
control,
All,
City,
designated
river
access
points
from
North,
Highland,
Dam
to
Trade,
Center,
land
and
event
planning
and
operations,
and
all
of
what
they've
done
over
the
last
10
years.
S
Q
Davis,
yes,
Mississippi
manager.
Of
course
this
is
a
a
contract,
lease
agreement
that
involves
the
changing
of
money
through
different
entities.
I,
you
know,
starting
an
agreement
and
getting
to
where
we
are
today
is
one
thing,
but
continuing
on
this
I
think
that
what
I
would
prefer
and
if
it
can
be
produced
or
if
the
parties
have
the
information
I'm
looking
for
I
would
really
like
to
see
some
performance
data
on
this
contract.
Q
It's
gone
for
10
years
there's
there
should
be
some
kind
of
accounting
and
Ledger
on
this
contract
and
there's
obviously
collections
involved.
It's
Unique
from
our
other
contracts.
Our
other
contracts
usually
involve
leases,
and
things
like
that
for
a
dollar
I
mean
it's
not
complicated,
this
one's
a
little.
Q
You
know
we
started
this
agreement
and
and
I
just
deem
it
as
appropriate
that
the
right
thing
to
do
is
to
see
some
kind
of
performance
documentation
on
this
agreement
before
we
move
forward
now,
I
don't
mind
doing
a
an
extension
to
go
ahead
and
continue
until
that's
all
produced,
but
if
we
can,
if
it
can
be
produced
today,
that's
great
but
I,
don't
think
it
can.
Q
I
would
like
to
see
that
and
if
we
need
to
get
some
eyes
on
that
to
understand
it,
I
think
there's
some
other
entities
involved.
Now,
that's
one
part
of
the
second
one
is:
do
we
have
an
exit
close?
We
we
usually
build
in
exit
Clauses
on
all
of
our
contracts
throughout
the
government.
I
didn't
see
anything
in
the
in
the
documentation
that
the
staff
reported
documentation
we
have,
but
you
know
it's
certainly
not
on
the
resolution
or
the
ordinance,
but
it
do.
Q
We
have
somewhere
the
original
contract
of
an
exit
clause.
I
think
we
have
an
extra
Clause
at
any
time.
Either
parties
deem
necessary
you
can.
You
can
terminate
the
terminate
the
agreement
of.
S
Course
you
know
and
I'll
yield
to
the
City
attorney.
I
I
haven't
looked
at
the
specifics
of
the
agreement,
but
we
always
have
an
exit
clause
in
our
agreements
and
certainly
we
can
get
the
information
that
you're.
Looking
for
and
I
will
just
say
to
you
that
we
project
it
will
generate
approximately
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
revenue
from
utilization
fees
per
year
of
operation,
typically
around
fifty
thousand
dollars.
But
certainly
we
can
make
a
request
for
the
information
and.
A
S
That
you're,
looking
for
but
I
I,
will
say.
Uptown
Columbus
is
the
ideal
organization
for
us
to
to
handle
this
project.
S
They've
been
long-standing
partners
with
us
over
the
years,
and
certainly
you
know
I
know
that
you
support
moving
ahead
with
them,
but
you
just
want
some
additional
information
and
we'll
certainly.
Q
Yeah
I
don't
have
any
problem
with
the
entities
involved.
I
just
think
it's
good
business,
good
practices
sure
that
in
a
case
like
this,
that
we're
doing
a
performance
audit
so
to
speak
on
this
before
we
extended
another
10
years,
I
think
that's
the
appropriate
way
to
go
I'd
like
to
see
that
and
understand
that
just
making
sure
that
I
know
originally
the
way
it
was
presented
to
the
council
and
I
was
on
the
council.
I
was
10
years
ago.
The
deputy
city
manager,
Arrington
I,
believe
presented
it
at
that
time.
Q
Richard
Bishop
was
the
director
of
of
Uptown,
but
I
know
there
was
a
lot
of
moving
parts
and
there
was
a
lot
of
I
guess
statements
that
were
made
in
writing
as
who
does
what
and
how
it's
done
and
what's
to
be
done,
and
even
projections
I
I'd
like
to
understand
all
that.
If
that's
well.
Q
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is,
if
you're,
in
a
hurry,
if
we
need
to
do
I,
think
the
contract's
up
in
February
I
don't
mind
giving
in
an
extension
until
we
get
have
time
to
be
able
to
produce
all
that
documentation,
but
I
think
really
it
just
just
happens
to
be
I,
guess
an
action.
That's
come
across
a
desk
that
we
we
haven't
had
one
of
these
in
a
long
time.
Q
F
The
agreement
is
strictly
for
a
10-year
renewal.
The
city
receives
3.5
percent
of
the
prevailing
approved
Outfitter
guide
Services
fee
for
each
individual
rafter
there's
not
an
exit
clause.
One
can
certainly
be
added.
It's
mutual
reciprocal
type
exit
clause
where
either
party
can
exit
on
90
days,
written
notice
or
180
days,
written
notice
that
can
be
put
in,
but
it
is
not
in
there
now.
K
Since
this
is
my
first
day-
and
this
happens
to
fall
into
my
district
I'd
like
to
ask
Council
if
we
can
possibly
delay
this
to
the
next
council
meeting,
just
so
that
I
can
kind
of
get
my
head
wrapped
around
this
10
years
is
a
long
time.
So
we
don't
want
to
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
hash
out
the
details
for
trash,
pickup
and
maintenance
down
on
on.
What's
the
face
of
our
city,.
Q
Right
finally,
Mississippi
manager
are
you
do
we
need
to
make
an
amendment,
or
can
you
handle
the
situation
about
the
the
standard.
S
Clause
we
always
use
it,
I
mean
when
we
bring
it
back
whatever
the
City
attorney
said,
we'll
put
it
in
there.
You
know
I
mean
it's
not
right
and
and
certainly
we'll
what
what
I'll
probably
do.
S
Madam
Council
I
know
you
made
a
motion
to
bring
it
back,
but
if
you
don't
mind,
we
would
just
do
kind
of
an
update
at
the
meeting
on
the
24th
and
tell
you
all
this
stuff,
and
then
you
could
vote
the
second
Tuesday
in
February
or
I
could
be
on
a
consent
agenda
on
the
30th,
but
at
least
we'll
get
to
tell
you
and
then,
if
you
like,
or
you
want
to
make
some
amendments,
you
could
and
then,
when
you
can
actually
vote
on
it
on
the
second
Tuesday.
I
You
some
of
the
things
that
I'd
like
to
see.
You
know
before
we
vote
on
this
I'm
looking
at
this
memorandum
of
understanding,
and
it
has
the
speculation
of
what
the
results
of
this
partnership
would
be,
the
economic
impact
and
and
how
many
jobs,
and
things
like
that.
So
I'd
like
to
see
that
in
the
report
that
that
you
bring
back
to
us,
I
also
would
like
to
know
that.
There's
the
proof
of
insurance
and.
I
Then
per
occurrence
right
so
in
the
in
the
actual
contract,
is
there
a
default
clause?
I
mean
he
talks
about
an
exit,
but
is
there
a
default
clause
in
it
that
if
either
party
defaults
on
some
of
these
agreements
in
the
memorandum
of
understanding
that
it
can
creative,
you
know,
avoided
contract
or
avoidable
contract.
F
I
The
difference
I'll,
let
you
do
your
job,
but
I
would
like
to
see
something
like
that
in
contracts
going
forward,
because
there's
been
some
situations
that
we've
gotten
into
I
mean.
Maybe
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
NCR
comes
to
mind
that
we
could
have
avoided
some
of
that
situation
if
we
had
an
exit
or
a
default.
I
B
C
S
We'll
do
an
update
on
the
24th,
which
is
a
5
30
meeting
and
and
then
we
can
either
bring
it
back
if
we're
all
on
the
same
page,
on
the
consent
agenda
on
the
30th
or
we
would
bring
it
back
for
a
vote
on
the
second
Tuesday
of
February.
So
mayor
will
just
will
we'll
just
handle
it
in
that
way.
Okay,
I.
Q
S
I,
don't
know
that
we've
gone
to
the
other
entities,
but
typically
organizations
we
deal
with.
We
get
a
copy
of
their
end
of
your
audits
and
and
of
course,
because
we
require
that
I'll
tell
you
what
I
I
think,
but
now,
let
me
just
say:
I,
don't
know
that
the
engine
is
that
they're
dealing
with
have
any
obligation
to
talk
to
us.
You
know:
well,
they.
Q
Asking
that
we
get
from
them
I'll
tell
you
what
I
think
it's
probably
best.
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
that
we
let
our
internal
Auditors
look
at
the
performance
aspect
of
it
in
conjunction
with
our
finance
department
and
look
at
it
together
because
I
think
that's
appropriate.
That's
the
kind
of
performance
audit
I'm
looking
for
is
just
pull
it
all
together.
I
think
you
got
to
look
at
the
Outfitters
I
think
you
got
to
look
at
Uptown
and
then
I
think
you
look
at
the
city
Side,
so.
Q
S
C
C
There
is
a
motion
to
ask
the
auditor
internal
auditor
to
look
at.
This
is
their
second
all
right.
There's
a
motion
in
a
second
any
discussion
to
that
is,
as.
I
I
think
what
councilor
Davis
is
talking
about
is
in
in
the
agreement
to,
and
then
it's
paragraph
B
it
says,
UCI
and
Outfitters
or
Outfitters
will
develop
a
system
of
accountability
to
determine
all
Outfitter
guide,
Services
Revenue
owed
to
UCI
and
City
for
Whitewater
operations,
subject
to
approval
of
the
city,
finance
department,
I
think
that
that's
what
am
I
correct,
if
that's
what
you're
asking
that
that
we
just
double
check
that
accounting
system
that
they've
set
up
with
our-
and
it
already
says
that,
subject
to
approval
from
our
city
finance
department,
and
so
it
is
part
of
this
agreement
and
there
and
I
don't
see
anything
wrong
with
us.
I
Just
double
checking
I
mean
this.
Is
we
kind
of
like
what
we
were
talking
about
earlier
with
the
internal
auditor?
You
know
checking
things
on
a
regular
basis.
I
think
that
this
is
just
one
of
those
situations
where
we,
just
let's
not
put
these
things
on
autopilot
and
just
keep
on
going
yeah.
We
haven't
had
any
problems,
but
are
there?
Is
this
a
Time
that
we
can
look
into
it
and
maybe
tweak
things
at
this
time
and
make
it
even
better?
I
I
mean
I
just
think
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
do
that
right
now
and
I
think
if
it
takes
a
little
bit
longer,
we
can
always
extend
this
contract
for
90
days
or
whatever
amount
of
time
it
takes
for
us
to
get
that
information.
C
Thomas,
did
you
okay,
all
right,
so
no
other
lights
are
on
for
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
of
turning
it
on
of
passive
through
the
internal
auditor
say
aye.
Are
there
any
opposed.
S
Okay,
so
so
then,
mayor
I
will
delay
bringing
back
any
update
and
we'll
bring
this
back,
maybe
with
an
I
guess:
you'll
get
a
report
from
the
internal
auditor.
First,
however,.
S
M
Mr
Mayor
or
Mr
City
attorney
I
I'm,
look
I'm
trying
to
find
out
when
this
expires.
February.
I
C
L
Huff
the
city
manager
just
requesting
if
councilwoman
kogel
get
with
the
city
manager
and
you
can
get
updated
in
the
meantime.
S
Right
next
I've
got
Enterprise
Zone,
the
sun
South
Properties
LLC,
and
this
is
approval
to
receive
at
valorem
tax
abatements.
C
Second
Motion
in
a
second
to
approve
the
Enterprise
Zone
qualifications
in
a
discussion
all.
C
AA
We
do
have
a
representative
here
from
Sun
South
I,
don't
know
if
he
wants
to
address
anything.
I
know
that
when
they
initially
submitted
the
application,
they
wanted
a
waiver
to
building
permit
fees
and
other
fees.
We
don't
have
that
Authority.
You
have
to
get
it
from
here,
so
I'm,
not
sure.
If
that's
something
you
wanted
to
address
this
morning.
AA
F
AA
S
Okay
well
mayor:
if
there
are
questions,
this
is
there's
a
seven
million
dollar
investment
and
it's
there
be
constructing
a
vacant
parcel
of
land,
with
improvements
scheduled
to
be
completed
in
2011,
1
2023
and
the
city
will
forfeit
basically
forty
seven
thousand
eight
hundred
twelve
dollars
per
year
for
the
first
five
years
due
to
the
proposed
abatement,
the
school
and
and
and
other
taxes,
as
you
know,
will
not
be
affected
because
that
they
don't
have
to
do
that,
and
job
growth,
We
Believe
job
growth.
S
C
C
S
L
A
C
Right
well,
Council
Thomas!
You
vote
any
firmative
all
right
now!
You
can
this
we'll
re-enter
your
votes
for
item
three
but
somehow
she's
right
behind
it.
Scouts
Tucker
you're
gonna
enter
your.
E
S
Q
Davis,
yes,
mayor
I,
just
want
to
say
too
to
this
subject
right
here
we
have
a
lot
of
areas
around
town
that
are
deemed
zones,
whether
it's
opportunity
zones,
Enterprise
zones,
tax
allocation
districts,
things
like
that.
These
are
all
I,
guess:
development
tools
that
we
have
in
our
pocket
and
from
a
standpoint
of
development
incentives
for
developers
if
they
choose
to
work
in
these
areas,
they're
entitled
to
a
lot
of
rights,
I,
guess
or
opportunities-
let's
just
say
it's
probably
a
better
word,
but
then
there's
standard
procedures.
Q
So
this
is
just
basically
a
standard
procedure,
because
these
gentlemen
are
going
to
build
a
new
building
in
the
Enterprise
Zone
which
actually
there's
they
probably
qualify
to
apply
for
a
lot
of
other
incentives
too.
But
that's
what
we're
doing
that's
what
we're
doing
today.
Z
AA
AA
Southeastern
company
there
throughout
the
southeast
they
are
moving
off
of
Parkman
Avenue
over
to
the
Old
Airport
site,
which
they
will
utilize
the
old
Hangar.
AA
So
it's
going
to
be
a
good
project
and
of
course
it
falls
within
the
boundaries
of
the
Enterprise
Zone.
Yes,
they
have
followed
proper
procedure
and
with
the
help
of
the
tax
assessor's
office,
we've
got
everything
lined
up.
Okay,.
Q
AA
S
S
As
an
example
of
you
know,
with
executive
level
positions
we
don't
release,
the
law
doesn't
require
that
we
release
until
the
position
is
field,
because
sometimes
those
people
apply
for
those
jobs
have
not
ified
their
the
boss
and
and
they
they've
applied,
and
they
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
be
a
finalist,
they
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
be
selected,
and
so
you
know
whether
it's
applying
for
a
school
superintendent
or
a
director
level
position.
S
Well,
the
positions
haven't
been
filled
and
if
you
go
and
put
those
names
out
there,
then
adjacent
police
departments
will
know
that
their
people
applied
and,
and
so
we're
saying,
give
lower
level
employees
the
same
protection
that
the
higher
level
positions
have
and
that's
what
this
is,
and
so
we're
asking
your
consideration.
This
ended
to
the
delegation
and
ask
them
to
provide
that
same
protection.
City
attorney
may
be
able
to
explain
even
better
the
protection
that
higher
level
positions
have
versus
lower
level
positions.
We've.
C
F
Right
now,
the
state
law
only
protects
job
applications
for
the
head
of
a
County
department
or
the
head
of
a
state
agency,
nobody
lower
than
that
so
division,
heads
managers,
police
officers,
whoever
are
not
protected
when
they
file
a
job
application
from
Heaven
that
application
disclosed
under
any
open
records
request,
and
the
rationale
is
all
those
people
and
applicants
deserve
the
same
level
of
protection
and
privacy
as
the
head
of
a
state
agency
or
the
head
of
a
County
department.
That's
the
rationale.
Have.
F
I
I
I
don't
know:
is
this
a
slip,
a
slippery
slope
where
we're
we're
starting
to
limit
access
of
open
records?
I
mean
I'm.
A
I
S
F
S
Why
should
the
world
know
that
I
applied
for
the
job
and
then
I
don't
get
it
and
everybody
my
privacy
acne
is
out
there.
That's
my
thought
on
it.
It's
I'm
putting
it
in
council's
court
too,
determine
whether
you
want
to
send
it
forward
or
not,
because
I'm
sure
the
system
will
get
tested
soon
and
we'll
see
how
it
works
out.
All.
C
Right,
counselor,
Thomas.
M
Explanation
says:
to
prohibit
the
disclosure
of
the
job
applications
to
local
governments
under
the
open
records
act
until
the
position
applied
for
has
been
filled
so
I
understand
the
executive
level
stuff.
But
does
this
mean
that
if
that
somebody
could
request
after
we
feel
a
police
officer
position,
they
can
still
request.
S
M
F
M
M
Well,
I
guess
part
of
part
of
this
too,
is
that,
as
the
City
attorney
said,
if
we
approve
this
to
go
on
the
legislative
agenda,
our
legislative
delegation
will
have
to
write
it
up
and-
and
you
know,
get
all
the
ins
and
outs
and
the
whereas
is
and
the
whereforce
and
they
they
may
take
care
of
all
of
this.
But
I
I
just
have
a
a
little
concern
that
I
guess
I'm,
not
real
clear
on
what
we're
trying
to
prevent.
S
I
often
hear
that
executive
level,
people
have
certain
protections
and
lower
level
people.
Now
it's
a
look.
It's
just
a
a
proposal.
If
you,
if
you're
kind
of
interested
you
know,
then
we
can
move
on,
but
I
I'm,
just
saying
to
you,
I
think
you're
going
to
find
that
we're
going
to
get
tested
and
then
we're
going
to
have
some
names.
Mr.
M
City
manager
is
this
something
that
hccg
or
GMA
has
requested
that
that
no
no,
we
do
this.
No
okay.
Do
you
have
any
idea
if
either
of
those
organizations
would
be
supportive
of
something
like
this
I.
S
C
M
S
A
S
C
Q
Well,
Mississippi
manager
certainly
I'm
open
to
this
and
I'm
still
learning.
Okay-
and
you
know
I've
stated
before
here
when
I'm
trying
to
learn
about
something,
and
you
know
I
try
to
slow
it
down
a
little
bit,
but
you
know
the
question
that
keeps
coming
up
in
my
mind:
do
we
have
a
problem?
Do
we
have
a?
Q
It
should
be
several
incidents
that
we've
incurred
to
get
us
this
point
because
we're
asking
for
an
initiative,
that's
going
to
be
Statewide
coming
out
of
Columbus
I've,
rarely
seen
I've
rarely
seen
where
we've
got
involved
in
state
initiatives,
but
we've
always
gone
through
GMA.
Perhaps
the
appropriate
route
I
think
the
mayor
you
serve
on
the
executive
board,
don't
you
the
GMA?
Maybe
the.
Q
Yeah,
you
said
the
delegation
would
have
to
start
reaching
out
everybody
else
that
may
be
I,
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
want
to
do
that,
but
maybe
the
the.
If
you
want
to
have
success,
the
appropriate
route,
would
you
go
through
GMA
or
hccg,
or
get
them
on
board
and
let
them
do
it?
I'm
not
I'm,
just
talking
out
loud,
okay
yeah,
but
you
know
I'm
still
open
to
what
you're
saying
I
just
keep
asking
the
questions.
Q
It's
sensitive
dealing
with
an
open
records,
request
matter,
and
then
you
know
and
then
putting
it
all
together
and
then,
at
the
same
time,
asking
for
out
of
Columbus
asking
for
Statewide
initiative.
I
just
think
we'd
have
to
have
some
kind
of
backup
of
something
that
we
can
tell
them
that
this
is
real
and
it's
happening
well.
S
S
And
and
so
I
think
you'll
see
the
test
soon.
If
so,
don't
you
know
I'll
just
say
I,
you
know
yeah
so
do
it
so
so
do
we
want
to
just
pull
this
or
what
do.
C
You
want
to
do,
I
mean
I,
think
we
can
just
hold
it
until
we
can
run
it
by
the
Legislative
policy
committee
out
of
GMA
and
and
do
the
same
thing
at
accg
and
we'll
get.
C
B
C
H
S
Okay,
that's
that's
why
I'm
bringing
it
I
think
it's
probably
a
pretty
good
idea
and
so,
but
we'll
see
how
it
works
out.
S
S
So
so
I'll
pull
that,
and
so
we
will
go
to
the
purchases
and
so
first
I've
got
membership
dues
for
Georgia,
Municipal
Association
and
it's
our
annual
dues
and
we're
requesting
your
approvals.
S
Well,
NJ
is
was
emergency
purchase,
so
we
really
don't
need
action
on
that.
Okay,.
A
C
Is
on
there,
but
there
is
a
motion
in
a
second
yeah
to
prove
the
purchases.
I
appreciate
that
so
all
those
in
favor
of
please
say
aye
aye.
Are
there
any
opposed.
S
Yeah,
okay,
GMA
dues
and
then
contract
extension
for
security
surveillance,
equipment
for
public
works
and
miscellaneous
locations,
and
we
all
know
what
we're
trying
to
do
there
with
an
adopted
saw,
got
household,
hazardous
waste,
sorting
and
Disposal
Services.
S
S
I've
got
for
Metro
Matt
vac
diesel,
all-terrain,
litter
vacuum
and
for
Metra
service
contract
for
various
types
of
transmissions,
and
then
I've
got
I
an
amendment
five
for
construction
manager
as
general
contractor
services
for
Columbus
Government
Center,
complex
costs
associated
with
constructing
a
full-size
mock-up
of
the
future
judicial
Center
courtroom.
And
then,
as
I
said,
Jay
was
an
emergency
purchase
on
these
three
vehicles
that
were
available
and
needed
by
the
sheriff
and
those
are
the
purchases
mayor.
C
And
we
got
counselor
house
yeah
and
Thomas
I'm
sorry,
Council,
Thomas,
I.
M
Got
to
get
my
glasses
I'd
like
to
pull
G
I
mean
no
I.
S
C
All
right,
so
we
have
I
pulled
and
we've
got
the
motion
was
made
for
and
we
did
we
we
voted
on
those
though
yeah,
so
we'd
have
to
ask
for
reconsideration
on
that
online.
M
AB
I'll,
let
director
Pruitt
of
it
was
they
built
a
mock-up
of
the
different
types
of
courtrooms
that
will
be
in
the
judicial
Center.
We
utilized
the
Bradley
building
of
Synovus,
so
it's
on
city
property
and
we
allowed
the
judges,
the
the
district
attorney,
the
assistant
district
attorney
the
clerk's
office
to
come
in
to
actually
sit
where
they
would
be
sitting
to
look
at
line
of
sight,
how
they
would
see
the
defendant,
how
they
would
see
the
prosecution,
and
so
this
was
done
the
week
of
December
16th
and
December
23rd.
AB
So
those
two
weeks
we
had
all
the
all
the
judicial
parties
come
in
to
view
how
the
courtroom
would
be
set
up,
there'll
be
some
alterations
made
to
that
and
then
we'll
come
back
again.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
when
the
judicial
Center
is
built,
that
all
parties
agree
to
how
the
courtroom
would
be
laid
out,
whether
you
have
a
center
bench
or
a
corner
bench,
whether
the
clerk's
office
is
sitting
in
front
or
next
to
so
that
we've
had
a
really
good
participation
on
the
judicial
side
for
that
viewing
and
that
that
process.
AB
Was
part
of
the
original
bid
and
part
of
the
original
process,
but
it
requires
a
change
order
to
the
agreement
to
actually
put
the
dollars
in
the
contract,
but
it's
part
of
the
overall
contract
that
was
approved
by
Council
in
the
beginning,
but
this
is
the
dollar
value
to
go
with
that
item.
That's
in
the
contract.
M
AB
AB
AB
Yes,
ma'am:
it's
a
change
order
to
the
agreement
so
every
time
out
of
that
200
million
dollar
total
budget
every
time.
There's
a
line
item
approved
it's
a
change
order
to
the
agreement.
It's
part
of
that
process
to
keep
continuing
to
come
back
to
council
every
time.
There's
a
specific
item
as
we
move
forward
with
the
judicial
Center.
M
No,
no,
no,
no
Mr,
Smith
I
just
want
to
understand
saying
what
what
we're
doing
it
was
my
understanding
when
I
read
this,
that
this
was
an
additional
77
000
on
top
of
what
we
had
already
approved
and
the
city,
the
the
deputy
city
manager
has
explained
to
me
now
that
that's
not
what
we're
doing.
S
A
M
S
S
S
And
and
we
do
it
with
discretionary
dollars
like
with
t-splash,
you
know,
we
tell
you,
we
got
three
million
dollars,
you
approve
it
and
then
we
come
back
to
you
with
each
individual
project.
It's
not
new,
and
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear
about
that.
Q
And
I
do
have
some
questions
about
this
I'm.
Sorry
Council,
you
know
I
probably
got
wrapped
up
in
some
of
these
other
things,
a
lot
of
moving
parts
and
it
just
kind
of
slipped
by
but
I
did
have
some
questions
in
this
area.
The
city
manager
just
answered
some
of
them.
It
seems
like
it
was
already
part
of
the
agreement,
but
I
will
have
to
ask
you
know
it's
a
lot
of
money
to
to
do
a
mock-up
and
then
it's
going
to
be
basically
destroyed.
Q
You
know
the
question
is:
could
we
have
done
better
getting
on
a
plane
and
going
somewhere
where
it's
already
happened
and
being
able
to
see?
What's
reality
because
look,
this
is
not
rocket
science.
You
can
go
on
Google
right
now
and
see
these
prototype
courtrooms
that
are
out
there
that
basically,
we
have
a
contractor.
That's
built
these
courtrooms
before,
but
all
these
courtrooms
are
somewhat
prototypes
of
best
practices
that
are
on
the
internet.
Q
The
architecture
is
going
to
fill
them
in
spaces
in
spots
in
in
space
somewhere
during
the
design
phase,
with
the
Architects
and
the
the
the
internal
design
side
of
it.
The
interior
design
side
of
it,
this
stuff's
gonna,
come
out
so
I'm,
not
sure
you
know
the
the
value
that's
being
presented
here,
but
evidently
it's
part
of
the
contract
that
we've
already
signed.
I,
don't
view
it
as
a
change
order
of
you
it
as
part
of
the
contract
that
we've
already
agreed
to
pay
for
am
I
right
on
that.
Q
AB
It's
part
of
that
original
contract,
but
we
are
only
approving
certain
amounts
as
we're
moving
forward
with
this
process,
so
the
pre-construction
services
was
an
amount,
and
so
each
time
there's
an
amendment
to
that
overall
contract.
It's
not
additional
dollars,
we're
still
within
our
budget.
That's
been
allocated
for
the
judicial
Center,
but.
Q
Q
AB
A
Z
AB
AB
AB
Part
of
what,
when
this
vendor
was
selected,
one
of
the
things
that
was
a
task
in
their
agreement
was
to
do
this
mock-up,
and
it
has
served
to
be
very
helpful
to
all
of
those
involved
in
the
judicial
side
to
actually
see
where
they're
going
to
sit,
how
their
views
are
going
to
be
so
I
think
it's
very
helpful
and
to
take
them
all
of
those
clerks
and
Adas
and
judges
to
another
location.
I
think
it
was
beneficial
and
you
know
I
wish
the.
AB
Q
Q
So
there's
really
no
savings,
you
know
if
you
could
go
back
and
do
it
all
over
again.
Maybe,
but
what
I
hear
you
saying
is
that
it's
it's
well
progress
in
motion
so
anyway,
but
I
I.
Do
those.
S
Questions-
and
let
me
just
let
me
just
say
to
you,
know
and
and
I
appreciate
all
the
questions,
but
you
know
we've
got
some
team
members
here.
You
know
we
don't
go
out,
like
others
and
how
construction
managers
you
know
rang,
has
to
do
his
job
every
single
day
and
yet
he's
doing
construction
management,
work
and
the
same
thing
with
director
with
deficit
manager.
Hodge
so
I
mean
you
know
they
know
what
they're
doing
and
how
to
do
it,
and
we
appreciate
the
questions,
but
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
the
savings.
AB
AC
Good
afternoon,
mayor
and
Council
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
you
know.
77
000
is
a
lot
of
money,
but
the
mock-up
is
vital
to
allow
the
users
of
the
courtroom
to
sit
in
their
seat.
AC
You
know,
even
the
clerks
were
showing
us
how
their
printer
works,
that
they
need
a
scanner,
and
so
we
can
build
all
that
into
the
mock-ups
to
make
sure
we
get
it
right
in
our
new
judicial
Center,
we
will
have
14
courtrooms
each
one
of
those
courtrooms
costs
approximately
two
million
dollars
to
to
fit
out
with
all
the
mill
work,
all
the
AV
all
that
stuff.
So
you
know
it's
28
million
dollars,
and
so
the
77
thousand
dollars
goes
towards
ensuring
all
that
technology.
All
the
woodwork.
AC
Everything
is
exactly
how
each
Court
needs
it,
because
each
Court's,
a
little
different
Probate
Court,
doesn't
need
what
Superior
Court
needs.
What
juvenile
court
needs.
So
we
were
able
to.
The
mock-up
was
constructed
in
a
way
to
customize
it
for
each
court,
so
the
judges
could
sit
in
their
seat
and
sign
off
on
on
all
the
equipment
in
the
courtroom.
I
Thank
you,
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
your
patience
with
us.
We
don't
see
the
contract
we
hear
what's
in
the
contract,
and
so
these
questions
are
just
clarifying
that
so
the
contract
is
it.
It
says
these
are
the
items
that
are
going
to
be
done
and
is
there
already
an
estimated
cost
for
each
of
these
items
already
in
the
contract?
I
And
so
are
you
asking
for
these
because
this
number
in
the
contract
has
changed
so
you're
we're
getting
a
change
order,
because
the
number
that's
in
the
contract
has
changed
in
some
way.
AC
So
it
hasn't,
it's
been
estimated
before
now
it's
just
been
finalized,
so
the
total
project
budget
is
the
200
million
dollars
that
was
approved
as
part
of
this
floss,
and
we
had
different
line
items
for
design
the
mock-up,
then
eventually
the
the
construction.
We
have
a
Furniture
line
item
in
there,
so
all
those
different
task
orders
will
be
brought
back
to
you.
So,
as
you
know,
almost
the
next
step
is,
as
we
continue
to
design.
The
contractor
is
going
to
prepare
the
final
price
for
the
total
construction
of
it,
and
so
we'll
bring
that
back.
AC
I
I
You
know
at
the
very
end
or
or
maybe
there's
five
items
left
on
it
and
we've
gone
over
budget
and
then
we're
on
the
hook,
because
we
we
agreed
to
the
change
order,
and
so
then
it's
arborist,
then
it's
our
responsibility
and
then
you
have
to
come
back
to
us
and
either
we
have
to
cut
something.
You
know
now
and
I
and
I
have
a
feeling
that
this
is
what
happened
when
they
built
the
government
center.
They
get
down
to
the
end,
and-
and
so
it's
like-
okay.
I
Well,
we
overestimate
you
know
we
underestimated
on
these
items
and
we
went
ahead
and
you
know
and
spent
the
extra
money
on
it
and
then
at
the
end,
oh
wow,
there's
no,
that
we
can't
put
shut
off
valves
on
the
plumbing
because
we
didn't
we.
We
can't
do
that
and
those
end
up
being
problems
for
counselors
25
years
down.
The
road
I've
experienced
that
where
it
became
my
problem,
a
decision
that
somebody
else
made
25
years
ago.
I
don't
want
to
do
that
to
someone
else,
and
so
I
would
I.
S
R
S
So
we're
always
concerned
about
you
know
not
exceeding
our
bottom
line
budget
to
get
the
project
done.
Did
you
do
this
bill?
Were
you
here
when
we
did
this?
No.
AC
S
Was
not
here
for
this
okay
but
David
Arrington
it
was
and
and
and
you
know,
we've
done
many
other
projects,
even
the
Civic
Center.
A
S
We
are
mindful
of
those
concerns
that
they
have
because
we
have
the
same
concern,
and
so
we
can't
allow
projects
to
get
out
of
control
in
terms
of
spending
many
times
we
have
contingency
line
item,
and
so,
if
something
goes
over
in
a
particular
line,
I
am
many
times
we
have
a
contingency
budget
to
take
care
of
it
and
and
and
then
there's
a
up
to
10
percent
change,
orders
that
we
do
allow
right.
AC
Yes,
there's
ten
percent,
it's
usually
for
that
the
city
manager
has
approval
to,
but
we
we
do
always
keep
a
contingency
in
there
and,
what's
so
great
about
this
project,
is
we
have
the
architect
and
the
contractor
at
the
table
at
the
same
time?
So
when
we're
talking
with
the
judges-
and
they
say
we
would
like
to
make
this
change,
we
can
get
information
real
time
that
that
change
impacts.
The
budget
in
this
way.
AC
H
House,
thank
you
mayor
I.
Certainly
don't
want
to
micromanage.
What's
going
on
with
that
building
because
I
don't
know
enough
to
do
it,
but
it
probably
would
be
reassuring
to
us
at
some
reoccurring
period.
I,
don't
know
if
it's
every
six
months,
every
three
months
every
year
to
come
back
and
tell
us
we,
we
thought
it
was
going
to
be
77
000
and
it
was
75.
I
mean.
Send
me
some
thousand
is
junk
change
compared
to
200
million.
You
know,
but
somewhere
in
there.
S
Now
and
yeah,
because
that's
going
you
know
and
because,
as
you
know,
I
as
city
manager
under
emergency
purchases
approved
millions
of
dollars,
I
mean
if
there's
a
pothole,
a
a
sinkhole
out
there
that's
going
to
cost
eight
million
dollars
and
we
need
to
get
it
done.
I'm
not
I'm,
not
going
to
wait
for
another
council
meeting,
I'm
going
to
tell
them
go,
do
it
and
you
know
because
it
has
to
be
done.
So
you
know.
C
C
S
And
I
often
you
know
say
that
you
know
in
our
business
and
what
they
do
and
what
we
do.
We
got
to
get
it
right,
we're
not
private
sector.
You
know
Council
Davis.
If
you
go
over
budget,
you
know
I
mean
in
your
business.
S
Q
Manager
I
understand
usually
in
our
business.
The
way
we
do
it
and
others
is
when
you
have
a
building
you
go
in
you
do
it
before
you
start
covering
all
the
walls
and
then
you
can
walk
through
and
get
everything
done.
There's
a
way
to
do
it
I
think
the
the
you
know
we're
probably
going
to
have
more
of
these
conversations,
but
you
know
200
million
the
magnitude
of
this
building
the
square
footage.
Q
You
know
there
are
different
ways
to
look
at
it,
but
I
think
our
concern
is
more
about
the
redundancy
more
about.
Is
there
better
ways,
better
practices,
other
ways
to
do
the
same
thing
without
having
to
spend
that
kind
of
money?
Those
are
fair
questions,
they're,
all
fair
sure.
It's
not
taken
up
a
shot
at
somebody.
That's
involved
in
the
in
the
construction
process,
a
bit
of
this
new
facility
or
their
ability
and
what
they're
capable
of
doing
and
what
they
bring
to
the
table.
That's
there's
nothing
about
that.
Q
I
think
it
all
when
we
see
it
with
limited
information,
sometimes
it
just.
We
have
to
ask
these
questions
and
you
know
yeah.
If
it
it
possibly
could
have
been
done
another
way
there
are
floor
plans.
There
are
elevations.
There
are
things
that,
if
you're
capable
of
reading
the
plans
with
along
with
contractors
and
engineers
and
Architects
and
all
you
can
do
the
same
thing,
do
you
need
to
do
a
mock-up
to
such
an
early
stage?
Q
You
know
which
would
be
a
question
I.
Have
we
don't
have
a
building
that
we're
doing
a
walkout
which
I'm
sure
they're
going
to
go
through
this
exercise
again,
but
I
think
it's
appropriate
that
we
can
ask
the
questions
about
these
things
and
and
they're
all
valid.
But
you
know
I
understand
a
lot
better.
Today,
it's
already
in
motion,
it's
in
progress,
It's
being
done.
Hopefully
it's
there's
a
contribution
that
comes
out
of
it,
but
we
do.
Q
We
know
we
we
hired
Consultants
judicial
consultants
and,
if
I
remember
the
contract,
they
got
a
lot
of
input
into
this
and
others
who
have
been
involved
in
this
area
who
have
experience
dealing
with
judicial
centers,
so
yeah
I
mean
the
the
the
these
are
valid
questions
and
and
I
just
don't
want
you
or
the
staff
to
think
that
we're
beating
anybody
out
we're
not
we're
just
asking
questions
because
hopefully
I
mean
our
desire
to
save
as
much
money
as
we
can
for
the
taxpayers
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Q
M
Mr
city
manager
and
Deputy
city
manager,
I
think.
The
thing
that
threw
me
off
was
the
use
of
the
word
Amendment
amendment
to
me
means
change,
means
something
different
and
so
from
now
on,
when
you
bring
these
back
to
us,
if
you
would
just
say
to
us
Council
Thomas,
this
is
not
a
change.
This
is,
we
have
to
say
Amendment,
because
that's
what
the
law
says
we
have
to
do
and
that's
what
the
accounting
stuff
does
just
just
make
sure
that
we
understand
that
this
is
not
a
a
new
proposal.
M
000
I
have
a
problem
with
that.
So
just
as
you
come
back
to
me,
if
you
need
for
financial
audit
reasons
or
whatever
else
to
call
it
an
amendment,
call
it
an
amendment
but
just
say
it's
not
changing
what
we
have
already
done.
It
is
merely
bringing
it
Forward.
I
would
appreciate
that
kind
of
clarification.
Thank
you.
S
But
but
again,
I
I
do
want
yeah
when
I,
when
I
talk
about
commending
them
for
what
they
do.
You
know
it.
Your
work
is
awesome
and-
and
you
know,
I
just
I
know
people
in
public
sector
and
in
private
sector
who
hire
construction
managers
on
every
project,
every
project
and
it's
up
to
10
percent
and
a
lot
of
money
gets
paid
out,
but
we
have
competent,
hard-working
staff
who
get
it
done
for
us
and
that
money
goes
into
the
project
and
the
taxpayers
benefit.
So
thank
you
for
your.
AC
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
our
current
schedule.
Just
real
briefly
for
the
judicial
Center
is
right
now
in
April
we
would
be
scheduled
to
come
back
to
this
body
to
show
you
kind
of
a
90
design,
along
with
a
budget
where
we
sit
at
that
time.
At
that
level.
So
they'll
have
you
know
3D
models,
they'll
have
some
animations,
showing
you
the
building.
So
that's
where
we're
at
we're
working
through
with
all
the
Departments
keep
having
continuous
meetings
with
them.
S
Premiere,
that
concludes
my
agenda
other
than
the
jail
update
and
so
Deputy
city
manager.
Hodge
is
going
to
do
that
at
this
time.
AB
Great
I
was
waiting
for
the
presentation
to
come
up
good
afternoon
mayor
and
Council
I'm
also
joined
Again
by
director
Pruitt
who's
been
involved
in
this
process
as
well
as
well.
Well,
as
the
sheriff
is
here
and
his
staff,
we
have
continued
to
work
through
issues
at
the
jail
along
with
public
works
on
the
maintenance
side.
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
on
where
we
are
where
we're
at
with
the
jail
again.
AB
It's
located
on
10th
Street
capacity
right
now
is
1069
beds
and
that's
comprised
of
four
sections:
the
The
Stockade,
which
is
used
by
trustees,
the
county
jail,
which
was
constructed
in
1959
63
years
old.
That
portion
is
no
longer
in
use.
We
have
Tower
one
that
was
constructed
in
1985,
so
it's
37
years
old
and
Tower,
two,
which
was
constructed
in
2002.
So
it's
20
years
old
and
you've
heard
from
the
director
of
Public
Works
I
believe
at
the
December
13th
meeting
about
some
ongoing
maintenance
issues
that
we've
had
at
the
jail.
AB
Those
have
continued
just
like
we
had
with
the
government
center
we're
looking
at
an
assessment
of
that
facility,
and-
and
where
do
we
go
from
here
and
so
back
in
22,
we
did
have
an
assessment
done
by
Jericho
Design
Group
through
our
Consultants.
AB
That's
actually
looking
at
our
judicial
Center
and
City
Hall,
so
we
contracted
with
Jericho
Design
Group
through
our
consultant,
and
they
looked
at
providing
an
assessment
of
the
jail
both
for
the
staff,
as
well
as
the
physical
assessment,
and
so
they
looked
at
the
different
components
of
up
at
the
top
just
to
get
you
oriented
that
is
Recorder's
cord,
that's
in
pink
and
then
the
jail
sits
south
of
that
between
Sixth
Avenue
and
at
10th
Street.
AB
So
this
is
their
assessment.
This
is
not
staff
assessment.
This
is
the
assessment
that
we
had
done
by
the
consultant,
so
I'm
sharing
their
information
with
you.
They
felt
that
most
of
the
facility
components
were
at
the
end
of
their
life.
The
exterior
building
veneer
is
failing.
Plumbing
Systems,
which
you've
heard
from
the
public
works
director
about
the
continued
issues
that
we've
had
with
the
plumbing
feel
that
those
are
failing.
The
sailing
the
floors
and
walls
need
to
be
replaced
and
the
security
system
needs
to
be
upgraded.
AB
Just
a
few
pictures
of
some
of
the
existing
conditions
inside
the
building.
We
provide
pictures.
We
don't
want
to
in
any
way
provide
any
kind
of
security
information.
So
a
lot
of
these
pictures
are
are
just
standard
pictures
of
the
leaks
water
damage.
The
you'll
see
some
of
the
existing
conditions
of
the
showers.
AB
So
there
are
some
things
that
they've
been
working
through
with
Public
Works,
to
try
to
address
some
of
those
existing
conditions
and
then
also,
as
you
can
see
in
this
picture,
the
design
might
not
necessarily
meet
the
the
current
standards
for
a
Judicial
or
for
a
a
jail.
Sorry
I'm
still
stuck
on
judicial
Center,
some
of
the
issues
that
they
found
in
their
analysis
on
operations.
AB
Those
include
that
the
design
of
the
housing
units
could
contribute
to
a
dangerous
situation
for
management.
There's
some
blind
spots
in
those
areas.
Most
of
the
support
areas
do
not
take
into
consideration
best
practices
for
jails
and
then,
obviously,
their
rise
in
health
care
and
mental
health
services
for
inmate
has
outpaced
this
current
facility.
AB
This
facility
kind
of
as
a
mate,
do
they've
done
the
best
they
they
could
with
the
facility
that
they
have.
Staff
and
inmate
safety
is
compromised
due
to
the
Cross
flow
of
intake
and
then
staff
supportive
areas
are
either
highly
inadequate
or
non-existent,
and
you
can
see
that
from
the
photos
that's
provided
again
outdoor
yards,
they
felt
were
dangerous
in
in
some
areas
and
you
can
see
that
they're
really
crowded
in
the
medical
and
mental
health
areas
and
one
of
the
things
that
they
notated
and
I'm
sure
the
sheriff
can
comment
on.
AB
That
is
how
the
inmates
flow
through
the
building
flow.
Through
some
of
the
intake
areas,
property
storage.
You
can
see
the
trash
bags
trying
to
prevent
some
of
the
plumbing
issues
that
that
we've
had
in
the
jail
and
they've
outgrown
their
storage
areas,
so
options
for
improvements
again.
This
is
from
the
initial
assessment
done
last
year
for
handling
the
issues
at
the
jail.
Their
recommendation
for
option
one
at
a
minimum
was
to
make
improvements
to
the
existing
facility.
AB
They
did
look
at
improvements
of
the
existing
facility,
what
they
felt
needed
to
be
done
that
came
in
at
102.2
million.
There
are
some
soft
costs
that
they've
included
in
this
initial
option.
One
assessment
option:
two
is
a
phased
replacement
approach.
This
would
be
to
replace
and
add
some
new
100
beds
on
the
west
side
of
the
building
and
then
to
come
back
in
and
do
a
replacement
of
the
the
total
beds.
That's
provided
kind
of
rearrange
the
parking
in
that
location.
AB
AB
AB
AB
Since
that
time
we
have
looked
at
those
cost
estimates
we've
provided
some
escalation
and
total
cost
of
construction
design,
contingency
all
the
costs
associated
with
that,
and
we
have
updated
those
options,
one
two
and
three
and
looked
at
what
the
funding
sources
could
potentially
be
for
this
type
of
facility
and
these
types
of
options.
We
looked
at
Columbus
building
authority
and
for
these
examples,
I
used
a
five
percent
interest
rate,
our
last
interest
rate
that
we
did
on
the
bonds.
AB
AB
AB
That
would
require
3.19
Mills,
along
with
1.5
in
other
local
options,
sales,
tax
funding
and
then
option
three
at
261
million,
that's
a
17
million
dollar
annual
cost
for
30
years,
2.98,
mils
and
then
1.5
and
oh
lost,
and
this
is
not
a
recommendation.
This
is
just
looking
at
potential
funding
sources
and
how
a
new
jail
or
replacement
of
the
jail
or
improvements
to
the
jail
could
be
funded.
AB
So
next
steps
again,
Public
Works
had
made
that
presentation
their
ongoing
maintenance
issues
that
they'll
continue
to
work
on
with
the
sheriff's
office
at
the
jail.
We
did
Issue
an
RFP
for
space
planning
and
programming
of
the
jail
as
well
as
construction
management,
so
a
similar
process
that
what
we
used
for
the
judicial
Center
those
bids
were
due.
Last
Friday,
so
we
did
get
quite
a
few
responses
to
both
of
those
rfps.
There
is
three
million
dollars.
AB
That's
been
set
aside
to
go
through
this
process
to
do
a
more
end,
up
in-depth
study
and
assessment
of
the
jail
and
what
the
options
are.
They'll.
Look
at
what
this
preliminary
report
did.
They'll
look
at
those
options.
Is
there
any
other
options,
and
so
we'll
have
a
consultant
and
a
general
contractor
on
board
once
it
comes
back
to
council
for
approval
after
we
go
through
the
review
process
so
that
we
can
and
move
forward
and
how
we
handle
the
jail?
AB
What's
the
best
course
of
action
for
making
the
improvements
at
the
jail,
and
so
like
I
said
the
sheriff
is
here.
If
you
have
any
specific
questions
about
the
operation,
we've
been
working
hand
in
hand
with
the
Sheriff's
Office
on
making
the
improvements
handling
the
maintenance
as
it
comes
up,
but
it
is
an
ongoing
issue
with
the
facility
and
its
age
in
order
to
address
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
had
at
the
jail.
AB
There
is
a
an
estimate
for
a
site
acquisition.
We
have
not
evaluated
sites
where
it
could
go,
but
that
would
be
part
of
the
process
that
this
new
consultant
would
go
through
similar
to
what
we
did
with
the
judicial
Center.
Where
we
looked
at
different
sites,
we
had
different
options.
We
came
back
to
council
for
consideration,
we'll
go
through
that
same
process.
Once
a
consultant
is
selected.
AB
It
it
potentially
could
it.
Okay,
and
these
These
are
estimates
for.
I
S
So
mayor
I
know
there's
some
other
counselors,
but
just
as
a
follow-up
do
you
know
how
many
acres
would
be
needed
and
and
and
and
we
own-
let's
say
the
property
right
behind
the
jail
were
nice,
that
ninth
right
before
the
railroad
track
similar
to
the
government,
saying
if
you
wanted
to
do
it
on
site
or
do
it
next
to
that
jail
if
you're
going
to
build
a
new
one,
for
example,
could
you
is
that
enough
acreage
to
construct
and
then
demo,
the
old,
current
jail.
L
L
On
your
options
and
looking
at
cost
and
longevity,
when
will
we
be
choosing
options,
it
seems
like
option.
Three
knew
would
be
the
better
option
for
longevity.
L
AC
Well,
we
can
specify
different
warranties
for
different
components
as
part
of
the
contract.
You
know,
roofs
typically
come
with
the
20
or
30-year.
You
know,
equipment
has
whatever
again
it's
really
whatever
we
specify
you
can.
You
know,
specify
a
five-year
for
mechanical
equipment
where
you
can
specify
10,
it's
just
going
to
come
with
a
little
bit
extra
extra
cost.
L
S
Questions
so
so
I
think
mayor
and
Council
yeah
Washington
week.
First
of
all,
we
need
you
need
to
know
that
we
are
going
to
similar
to
what
we've
done
with
the
government
center
we're
going
to
work
to
make
sure
things
are
safe
at
the
jail
with
pipes
and
whatever
that
are
outdated
and,
and
so
the
first
goal
will
be
to
do
those
things
that
we
know
we
need
to
do
now.
C
S
S
But
and
so
that's
a
short
term,
but
then
the
long
term
would
be
kind
of
like
where
Council
Huff
was
going
we're
going
to
have
to
decide.
If
we
want
to
do
some,
we
want
to
replace,
we
want
to
repair
and
with
some
new
and
it
you
know.
But
when
the
consultant
everybody,
when
we
come
back,
we'll
be
talking
about
those
options.
All.
M
I
had
asked
for
the
maps
to
go
up.
I
believe
that
the.
M
The
Recorder's
Court
on
that
map
is
that
part
of
this
all
of
this
reconstruction
that
you're
talking
about
doing
something
at
Recorder's
Court.
It.
M
Could
be
since
we
have
moved
to
a
new
configuration
in
the
recorders
court.
I
would
hope
that
that
would
be
part
of
the
decision,
as
these
decisions
were
made
in
order.
We
can
have
some
stop
Gap
issues
before
then,
but
to
make
sure
that
they're
the
space
and
the
the
courtrooms
and
whatever
we
are
needing
down
there
are
actually
in
place
plug
that
one.
In
yes,
ma'am.
R
Yes,
are
we,
including
any
type
of
maintenance
plan
Within
these
new
projects?
I
mean
not
just
yes,.
S
With
the
new
city
hall,
with
the
new
judicial
Center,
the
answer
that
question
is
yes
and
it
and
we're
going
to
have
to
hire
some
additional
people
to
be
a
part
of
this
maintenance
plan.
You
know
I
mean
we
just
have
to
we've
got.
We
have
too
many
buildings
and
too
few
people
to
maintain
all
of
the
building
city-wide
from
the
the
public
safety
building.
R
In
reference
to
the
staff
that
we
had,
our
all
those
positions,
right
now
feel:
do
you
foresee
issues
with
actually,
if
we
increase
the
number
of
employees
that
you
see
any
issues
with
us
actually
filling
those
positions?
Well,.
S
It's
been
challenging
filling
those
positions,
so
all
of
them
are
not
field.
I
mean
we
I
think
we
were
down
to
one
plumber
or
no
plumbers,
and
that's
why
we've
been
contracting
out
and
I
think
I
was
telling
the
mayor
the
other
day.
They
were
trying
to
hire
two
plumbers
and,
of
course,
I
think
we
were
paying
22
an
hour
and
the
two
that
we
were
going
to
hire
a
really
good
skilled
plumbers
and
they
wouldn't
come
for
less
than
26
an
hour.
S
C
The
interesting
thing
is:
if
this
is
an
advertisement
for
all
the
kids
coming
out
of
high
school,
you
want
a
solid
high
paying
job
and
all
the
work
you
can
handle
learn
a
trade
because
getting
some
Tradesmen
to
come
on
and
work
for
what
we
can
afford
as
a
government.
It's
ridiculous
I
talked
to
a
couple
of
our
guys
that
were
working,
and
they
were,
one
of
them
was
telling
me
he
does
something
on
the
side.
Plumbing
he's
making
like
50
bucks
an
hour
yeah,
yes
and.
AC
M
I
think
too,
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
work
with
both
Columbus
Technical
Institute
college
and
some
of
the
schools
that
are
doing
some
of
these
programs
like
Jordan
and
I,
know.
Spencer
has
one
to
make
sure
that
these
kids
that
are
coming
out
of
that
are
taking
these
classes.
We
can
give
them
some
experience,
maybe
and
I
hope
that
we're
working
very
closely
with
Columbus
tech
and
and
the
school
district
to
utilize
some
of
these
kids
as
they
come
out
as
they
as
they
leave
the
the
schools
they
you're
right.
M
I
had
a
plumber
come
into
my
house
just
a
couple
of
months
ago,
and
it
was
88
dollars
when
he
drove
in
the
driveway.
You
know
he
hadn't
come
in
to
do
anything,
yet
you
know
so.
Hopefully
we
can
use
some
of
the
sources
that
we
have
in
town
and
I,
think
Columbus,
tech
and
and
the
school
district
would
be
glad
to
work
with
us
and
try
to
you
know,
get
these
kids
attuned
to
what
we
can,
what
we
can
do
for
them.
S
C
All
right,
Madam,
Clerk.
O
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
and
thanks
to
the
members
of
council
for
your
vote
for
my
reappointment.
Thanks
again
for
the
clerk's
agenda
item,
one
our
Minister
various
boards
to
be
received.
O
C
Right,
there's
a
motion
in
a
second
I'll,
take
one
of
those
as
a
second
to
receive
the
minutes,
any
that
anybody
would
like
have
pulled
or
edited
all
right,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
any
for
proposed
right.
They're,
they're,
approved.
O
C
All
right,
it's
motion,
second,
to
confirm
any
discussion
on
the
screen.
All
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
councilor
crab.
O
Thank
you,
counselor
crab.
We
also
have
the
Uptown
facade
board
the
seat
of
Ms
libba
Dylan
Mr
Lila
Dylan
was
nominated
to
fill
that
expired
term
of
Mr
Judd
Richardson.
She
may
be
confirmed.
C
O
O
Next,
we
have
Council
appointments.
Any
nominations
will
be
listed
for
the
next
meeting,
the
building
authority
of
Columbus
the
seat
of
Vincent
Allen.
It
is
open
for
nominations,
the
Columbus
Aquatics
commission.
We
have
the
seats
of
David
helmig
Bruce
Samuels
in
one
vacancy.
These
are
Council
appointments.
These
seats
are
open
for
nominations
for
the
land
bank
Authority,
the
seat
of
Tyler
Pritchard
councilor
Davis
is
nominating
Lauren
Chambers
Lauren
Chambers,
and
we
will
bring
this
back
for
confirmation
at
the
next
meeting
for
the
Personnel
review
board
the
seat
of
Dr
Shanita
Pettaway.
O
C
Okay,
all
right,
congratulations
again
to
counselors
Thomas,
Huff,
Le,
Barns
and
crap
for
being
sworn
back
in
today.
Yes,
and
we've
got
a,
we
do
have
a
counselor
talking
yeah.
We
have
a
motion,
councilor
Tucker.
R
R
Holiday
and
we
had
a
lot
of
information
to
read
and
kind
of
digest
within
a
short
period
of
time.
I
know:
counselor
Garrett
had
mentioned
the
transparency
government,
transparency
act
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
requesting
was
to
get
the
presentations.
R
It
was
originally
we
were
saying
Monday,
but
if
possible,
can
we
get
the
presentation
emailed
to
us
on
Friday
when
the
agenda
comes
out?
The
presentations
that
are
on
your
on
your
agenda
city
manager
is
that
okay,
yeah
I
mean
that
way.
We
can
all.
If
we
have
for
real
questions,
we
have
something
to
to
look
at.
S
You
know
if
it's
ready,
we
will
certainly
email
it
out
and
and
I
will
say
to
you
or
we
could
wait
the
following
week,
but,
for
example,
the
final
presentation
I
sent
you
early
on
bits
and
pieces
of
the
jail
update,
but
when
I
got
the
final
from
you,
it
was
last
night.
Oh
yes,
9
15.!
Yes,
you
know
so
I'm
just
saying
you
know.
Sometimes
we
don't
have
they're
still
working
on
it,
and
so,
but
if
we
have
it,
we
will
send
it
to
you.
S
C
C
C
B
S
C
M
One
of
the
things
too
that
that
and
Madam
Clerk
special
note
of
this
there
have
been
several
of
us.
Who've
had
some
conversations
about
the
fact
that
our
agenda
we
received
the
agenda
for
this
meeting.
Friday
night
offices
were
closed,
Saturday,
Sunday
and
Monday,
and
now
Tuesday
morning
we're
here.
M
Let's
make
sure
that,
let's
don't
do
that
again,
let's
don't
schedule
a
council
meeting
on
the
day
after
a
three-day
holiday,
because
if
there
are
questions
that
I
had
I
could
have
called
yesterday,
but
you
guys
were
off
as
you
should
have
been,
and
so
let's
make
sure
that,
as
we
are
changing
calendars
and
so
forth
that
we
make
sure
that
those
holidays
we're
looking
at
those
holidays
and
and
doing
what
needs
to
be
done
so
that
we
don't
fall
into
this
trap.
F
M
M
S
I
T
C
Y
I
just
spoke
with
the
chief
police
and
I
asked
him.
Why
would
he
stand
there
and
tell
all
those
lies
to
the
entire
Council?
He
said.
Well,
then,
to
paraphrase
his
response,
he
said
well
Don.
Those
lies
that
I
presented
were
presented
to
me
from
the
police
officer
that
stole
your
money.
In
other
words,
he
didn't
investigate
a
thing.
Okay,
she
told
him
she
wrote
everything
he
said
was
presented
to
him
from
her
and
she
he
stood
there
and
repeated
it.
So
you
and
just
to
drive
the
point
home.
Y
Well,
they
shouldn't
have
ambushed
me
in
the
first
place,
but
I
think
they
could
sign
up
just
like
I.
Can
you
know
they
have
it's
public?
They
can
come
next
week
and
they
can
sign
up.
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
that
I.
Don't
if
they
want
me
to
come,
I
can
I,
don't
have
to
be
here
all
I'm
trying
to
tell
you
is
I
had
when
I
went
in
there
to
get
a
piece
of
paper
it
had
nothing
to
do
with
me.
Y
I
walked
in
the
police
department,
get
a
piece
of
paper
for
somebody
else.
That's
the
reason.
I
was
down
there
and
they
arrested
me
when
I
went
to
get
and
they
never
I
never
got
the
piece
of
paper,
but
there
was
an
individual
that
was
sitting
in
my
car
before
I
walked
in
who
saw
all
of
the
property
in
the
car
batim
every
item
in
there.
Y
They
knew
exactly
what
was
in
there
when
we
got
out
of
the
car
that
person
with
the
set
and
hit
his
car
and
I
went
in
there
to
get
the
piece
of
paper
for
that
person.
So
they
know
exactly
what
property
was
there
and
they
sat
there
and
watched
the
entire
time
waiting
for
me
to
come
out.
Well,
I
never
came
out
because
they
arrested
me.
So
while
they
were
sitting
there
watching
the
next
person
to
touch
that
car
and
the
only
person
that
had
a
key
was
the
police
department.