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From YouTube: Columbus GA City Council Meeting 01 24 2023
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Columbus GA City Council Meeting 01 24 2023
A
A
Mayor
skip
Henderson
city
manager,
Isaiah
Hughley
pops,
Barnes
district,
one
Glenn
Davis
district
2,
Bruce
Huff
District
3,
Toya,
Tucker,
District,
4,
Charmaine,
crab
District,
5,
Gary,
Allen,
mayor
Pro,
tem
and
District
Six
Joanne
kogel
district
7,
Walker
Garrett,
District,
8,
Judy,
Thomas
posts;
nine
at
large
counselor
John
house,
Post
10
at
large
counselor,
Sandra,
Davis,
Clerk
of
counsel
and
City
Attorney
Clifton
Faye,
Columbus
Georgia.
This
is
your
city
council.
B
The
full
agenda
agenda
today
so
you'll
get
a
great
opportunity
to
view
your
council
at
work.
We
we
want
to
begin
our
meeting,
though,
as
we
begin
all
of
all
of
our
meetings,
that's
by
asking
God's
blessings
on
these
proceedings.
We're
really
excited
to
invite
to
the
podium
one
of
our
own,
not
Valerie,
Thompson
from
Revelation
Missionary
Baptist
Church.
C
I'm
glad
we
come
before
you
regression
God.
Thank
you
for
being
a
god
of
love
who
is
with
us
now
and
in
this
very
place
God.
You
never
leave
us,
nor
will
you
forsake
us
God.
We
thank
you
tonight
for
these,
your
servants,
our
mayor,
our
city
manager,
our
city
staff
and
our
council,
members
God.
We
give
you
thanks
for
the
way
of
service
they
have
chosen
to
take
on
behalf
of
all
of
us
here.
We
all
come
to
this
place
tonight
as
complex
human
beings,
carrying
burdens,
carrying
joy
and
hope.
C
Trusting
that
you
alone
can
hold
us
together.
Oh
God,
in
your
love
and
peace
God.
We
ask
now
that
you
help
us
Lord
to
trust
you
more
more
than
our
fears
and
our
wounds
and
even
our
accomplishments.
May
we
lean
on
your
Everlasting
Arms
Tonight
God
in
your
word,
you
may
clear
your
expectation
for
those
who
sit
in
place
of
authority,
and
so
we
pray
that
we
would
be
glorified
tonight
through
the
decisions
of
the
city
council.
C
I
pray
that
your
kingdom
will
come
in
Columbus
that
is,
is
in
heaven
through
your
power
working
in
in
each
and
every
one
of
your
servants
God,
we
pray
for
wisdom,
we
pray
for
strength.
We
pray
for
courage
to
do
what
is
right
and
good
for
all
citizens.
May
this
Council
put
the
interests
of
others
above
their
owns,
and
may
they
act
with
love
for
the
coming
of
the
common
good
God.
We
thank
you
again
for
this
city
for
this
Council
for
this
mayor
city
manager,
Public
Safety
and
our
city
staff
and
God.
C
B
B
B
All
right,
we
will
entertain
a
motion
on
the
minutes
from
the
January
3rd.
Are
there
any
there's
a
motion
to
receive
them?
Is
there
second
who's?
Second,
and
are
there
any
edits
or
any
comments
based
around
the
minutes,
all
right
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
any
opposed
all
right,
great
all
right.
B
First,
we
have
an
opportunity
to
recognize
just
an
incredible
occurrence
in
our
nation's
history
and
and
I'm,
going
to
ask
councilor
Toya
Tucker
to
present
this
Proclamation
and
anybody
who's
associated
with
the
four
chaplain
Sunday
I
know:
American
Legion
Post
35
is
here
if
y'all
want
to
come
to
the
podium.
Please.
D
E
Thank
you
Sam,
ladies
and
gentlemen.
I'm
Sam
Nelson,
my
current
hat
is
the
chaplain
for
American
Legion,
Post,
35
and
I'd
like
to
introduce
Mr,
Jeffrey
Gibson
who's,
the
national
champion
for
the
sons
of
the
American
Legion,
as
I
was
mentioning
to
the
mayor
earlier.
This
is
a
shining
example
for
all
of
us.
E
How
many
of
us
stand
and
will
absolutely
come
to
fisticuffs
over
some
minor
difference
of
opinion
on
Doctrine,
and
then
we
look
at
these
four
fellas
who
obviously
of
different
faiths
complete.
You
know
not
totally
different
beliefs,
but
this
similarly
beliefs
that
we're
able
to
make
a
sacrifice
in
the
name
of
decency,
Goodwill
and
Brotherhood
I
hope
we
never
forget
them
and
I'm
delighted
that
Columbus
has
decided
to
to
to
recognize
these
men
at
this
time.
E
F
B
G
B
Thank
you,
sir
and
yeah.
It's
interesting
pop
Barnes
brought
this
forward
to
present
today
and
he
was
unable
to
be
here
he's
a
little
under
the
weather.
We
ask
that
you
keep
him
in
your
thoughts
and
prayers,
but
he
asked
specifically
for
councilor
Tucker
because
of
her
service
to
our
country.
So
that
is
why
she
read
that
particular
Proclamation.
B
B
H
B
B
All
right,
thank
you
for
your
patience
and
for
indulging
us.
We
have
been
an
executive
session,
we
discussed
potential
litigation
and
we
and
we
discussed
Personnel
items
and
there
were
no
votes
taken
so
we'll
now.
I
do
want
to
make
an
announcement
as
well.
I
should
have
done
this
earlier
that
we
have
counselor
John
house
and
counselor
councilor
Walker
Garrett,
who
are
joining
us
remotely.
Both
of
them
have
have
obligations
that
are
keeping
them
away
from
the
meeting
this
evening.
We'll
pick
back
up
with
our
audit
reports.
B
B
I
I
I
additionally
met
with
the
team
from
the
Napa
store,
which
is
managed
with
on-site
within
Fleet
Maintenance
I
visited
the
city-wide
inventory
area
and
found
the
area
well
maintained
and
stocked
with
commonly
used
products
in
touring.
Animal
Control
observed
that
due
to
staff's
shortages,
hours
of
operation
had
been
modified,
but
also
noticed.
The
current
fostering
was
alleviating
capacity
problems
and
that
Financial
sponsors
had
been
secured
to
fund
several
dog
kennels.
I
Additionally,
in
rainwater
management,
it
was
noted
that
the
storm
water
funding
is
largely
spent
on
repairs
and
Remediation,
as
new
infrastructure
has
been
supported
by
engineering
purchases.
Payroll
testing
occurred
with
no
discrepancies
noted
within
community
service.
It
was
noted
that,
due
to
the
limited
availability
of
probationers
along
with
limited
full-time
Staffing,
it
was
noted
that
the
litter
Hot
Spot
list,
which
involves
the
patrol
of
96
main
roads,
often
is
not
completely
addressed.
Each
month.
I
We're
now
at
the
audit
findings,
payroll
Administration
was
confirmed
to
be
functioning
very
well
in
a
three-year
review
of
budgetary
performance.
There
had
previously
been
budget
overruns
in
the
maintenance
of
Capital
Equipment.
It
was
noted
that
once
Fleet
Maintenance
was
more
fully
staffed,
costs
were
then
contained
with
repairs
handled
by
our
fleet
team,
rather
than
relying
on
outside
vendors.
Fixed
asset
records
were
also
well
maintained
within
Integrated
Waste.
It
was
determined
that
the
currently
monthly
rate
of
18
does
not
cover
the
cost
of
the
provision
of
this
service.
I
I
Upon
review
of
the
cost
of
the
amways
contract,
steps
to
bring
the
collection
activity
in-house
have
Merit
the
initial
contract
funding
came
from
landfill,
Reserve
funds
and
will
need
to
be
replenished
due
to
the
deteriorating
availability
of
skilled
prisoner
or
probation
or
labor.
Our
liability
has
increased
and
related
legal
claims
are
on
the
rise
as
a
result
of
a
strict
adherence
to
the
four-year
degree
requirement
for
division
leadership
positions.
I
There
are
several
long-term
vacancies
at
the
helm
of
several
skilled
trade
divisions,
aged
Capital,
Equipment
remains
in
service
and
will
and
well
beyond,
expected
useful
lives
with
employees,
persevering,
keeping
Assets
in
service.
We
are
running
out
of
available
cemetery
plots
for
Indigent
residents
who
may
need
them.
I
Okay,
as
a
result
of
recent
staff
shortages
and
departures
facilities,
maintenance
is
no
longer
able
to
provide
skilled
staff,
support
at
the
Muskogee
County
jail
or
at
the
city
service
center.
Additionally,
when
staff
has
been
insufficient,
it's
been
necessary
to
more
increasingly
rely
upon
outside
vendors
or
contractors.
Incurring
additional
expenses,
drivers,
training
and
risk
management
doesn't
have
a
well-developed
succession
plan
with
one
FTE
serving
Citywide
at
a
minimum
standards
require
instruction
and
testing
to
be
conducted
by
two
different
qualified
individuals.
I
A
couple
of
additional
employees
have
been
identified
for
training
in
the
area,
though
additional
budgetary
positions
do
not
yet
exist.
Third-Party
testing
is
also
an
unavailable
option.
At
the
present
time,
the
developing
Public
Works
GIS
team
was
running
on
budget
resources
drawn
from
several
other
divisions.
The
work
unit
is
providing
unique
services,
not
otherwise
available
from
engineering,
GIS
or
Emergency
Management
or
Homeland
Security.
I
A
degree
preferred
or
and
or
policy
would
provide
important
latitude
in
hiring
decisions,
resolving
long
vacant
leadership
positions
in
those
Public
Works
divisions
that
rely
heavily
upon
skills
in
the
technical
trades.
The
acquisition
of
cemetery
management
software
would
also
be
helpful,
considering
the
scarcity
of
available
plots
on
our
current
properties
in
response
to
scare
cemetery
plot
options.
A
cemetery
policy
revision
should
address
the
criteria
for
indigen
services,
providing
additional
policy
guidance
rate,
cremation
options
and
Mausoleum
accommodations
with
additional
recommendations.
I
A
rate
study
should
be
approved,
addressing
the
true
cost
of
waste
collection
services,
with
a
review
of
the
monthly
rate,
along
with
a
supplemental
cost
for
handicapped
services
or
a
second
Carter
bin
provided
at
a
service
address.
The
action
should
also
involve
the
development
of
a
process
for
The
Ordering
of
supplemental
bins.
I
At
an
address,
a
Capital
Equipment
replacement
plan
should
be
developed
and
funded
as
most
heavy
equipment
has
a
five-year
life
with
a
supportive
request
reflected
in
the
fiscal
24
budget
submission
a
three-person
team
should
be
established
via
the
FY
24
budget
process
in
the
driver's
training
risk
management
office.
While
there
has
been
some
in-house
development
of
additional
teammates,
the
work
area
has
an
insufficient
succession
plan
at
the
present
time.
Along
with
this
action,
it
would
be
important
to
return
to
the
provision
of
third-party
drivers,
testing.
I
Challenging
employee
retention
issues
can
be
additionally
addressed
by
reviewing
and
addressing
the
pay
grade,
disparities
between
the
necessary
CDL
employees
and
our
experienced
skilled
technical
trade
personnel,
the
Public
Works
GIS
team
would
benefit
from
the
establishment
of
their
own
budgetary
division
in
future
budgets,
as
their
current
funding
is
coming
from
funding
pulled
from
several
other
Public
Works
operating
divisions.
This
small
team
would
benefit
from
additional
specialized
training,
as
well
as
upgraded
software
as
the
quality
and
availability
of
prison.
Labor
has
diminished
since
the
early
days
of
the
covet
pandemic.
I
I
Make
a
short
note
here
in
the
drill
short
our
Public
Works
director
has
responded
at
the
back
of
your
package
with
some
additional
notes.
You
have
some
supplemental
notes
regarding
the
findings
and
has
thanked
me
for
my
efforts.
Inside
of
her
Department,
of
identifying
recommendations,
you
know
for
the
benefit
of
her
team.
J
H
One
right
there:
okay,
as
the
quality
and
availability
appraising,
which
would
allow
us
to
have
a
more
effective
implementation
out
of
it
when
you're
looking
into
the
cost
of
the
contract
for
am
waste.
Did
you
look
into
the
cost
savings
that
we
have
we're
not
having
to
maintain
Vehicles
the
gas
all
of
the
other
items
that
could
balance
some
of
that
out?
I.
I
I
appreciate
your
your
question
and
I
have
not
dug
into
that.
I
certainly
can
in
a
follow-up
one
of
the
things
that
we
saw
with
the
the
Staffing
of
the
prison
labor
that
we're
still
doing
even
under
the
Amway
setting
the
quality
of
this
labor,
and
it's
in
the
detail
of
your
report.
Prior
to
the
pandemic,
there
were
different
rules
in
terms
of
parole
incentives.
We
could
offer
for
quality
work.
We
were
receiving
the
correct
number
of
inmates
on
a
pretty
regular
basis.
I
We
now
and
the
business
model
itself
has
to
run
on
about
a
hundred
inmates
and
frequently
we
only
received
maybe
50.,
and
what
we
had
received
in
the
past
were
inmates
that
had
previous
work
history,
that
that
took
pride
in
their
work
and
if
there
was
a
payroll
or
parole
incentive
available.
You
know
they
were
proud
of
their
work.
I
What
we're
getting
now
we
get
half
the
number
we
need
and
we're
getting
folks
that
are
maybe
18
years
old
that
have
never
worked
anywhere
and
we
no
longer
can
provide
parole
incentives
to
reward
quality
work,
so
we're
suffering
in
the
business
model.
There.
Your
questions
very
well
taken
I
can
certainly
follow
up
on
that
to
see
you
know
if
we
were
to
staff
correctly,
you
know
what
truly
is
the
gap.
Ultimately,
the
fact
that
we've
pulled
funds
out
of
the
landfill
Reserve
to
fund
that
first
year
of
am
waste.
I
L
Well,
not
for
the
the
services
they
provide.
We
used
arpa
dollars
to
purchase
the
39,
automated
trucks,
but
the
money
that
we
pay,
amways
and
I
think
we've
probably
paid
them
as
much
as
10
million
dollars.
I'll
have
to
verify
with
the
finance
director,
but
but
that
money
came
from
our
reserves
in
in
a
great
waste
and
we've
even
relied
on
the
general
fund
for
some
portion.
But
but
the
only
thing
that
we've
used
arpa
Dallas
for.
D
I
We've
been
talking
about
that
the
follow-up
I
will
probably
be
out
there,
probably
within
the
next
90
days
for
sure,
but
but
the
question
we've
had
from
councilor
crowd
tonight.
I
will
respond
to
that
much
sooner
than
the
90
days.
I
mean
I'm
going
to
consider
that
homework
tonight
you
know
and
I'll
probably
be
out
there,
maybe
even
next
week.
You
know
so
there
will
be
some
follow-up
to
ensure
that
a
number
of
the
recommendations
are
addressed.
I
Of
course,
many
of
the
recommendations
have
budgetary
impact
and
we're
just
coming
into
the
budget
preparation
process
with
the
deadline
of
February
10th.
So
it's
timely
that
we
talk
about
what
some
of
the
needs
are,
but
I'll
be
checking
in
with
them
before
they
turn
their
budget
request
in.
Thank
you.
B
M
M
Generally,
when
I
do
a
PowerPoint
presentation,
it
is
simply
for
you
to
use
as
a
guide
to
keep
up
with
where
I
am
in
the
presentation
tonight.
The
PowerPoint
is
just
as
important
as
the
information
that
I'm
verbally
going
to
be
discussing.
All
of
these
pictures
throughout
the
PowerPoint
presentation
are
our
Animal
Control
volunteers.
M
All
of
the
animals
that
you
see
in
these
pictures
are
our
Animal
Control
animals.
We've
got
two
types
of
volunteers.
We
have
got
our
citizens
that
regularly
volunteer
and
we
also
have
a
group
from
Hardaway
High
School
part
of
a
prob
part
of
a
program
with
the
Muskogee
County
School
District
they're
working
in
a
group
of
community-based
instruction
or
CBI.
This
is
why
our
PowerPoint
is
so
important
because
we've
got
pictures
of
those
folks
throughout
the
presentation.
M
This
program
is
a
vocational
training
program
for
students
with
cognitive
disabilities
who
have
completed
four
years
of
high
school
in
a
functional
classroom
setting
and
are
seeking
employment.
We
actually
have
those
folks
here
tonight
because
they're
real
excited
about
number
one,
seeing
the
audit
presentation
and
number
two
seeing
a
city
council
meeting
and
I've
been
told
they
want
pictures.
M
M
Okay,
the
audit
was
requested
and
approved
by
Council
on
August,
the
9th
2022.
We
had
an
entrance
conference
on
August
the
15th
of
2022,
and
we
recently
had
an
exit
conference
on
January,
the
10th
2023.,
because
Animal
Control
has
never
been
audited.
Of
course,
we've
done
a
full
scope
audit.
You
know
what
that
means.
We
come
in
the
front
door.
We
look
at
everything
heading
out
to
the
back
door.
We
touch
every
part
of
the
operation.
We
look
at
all
of
the
administrative
aspects
of
the
operation
processes,
documentation,
website,
budgeting
issues.
M
Unfortunately,
tonight
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
any
of
that.
If
you
have
questions,
though,
about
some
of
these
things,
I'm
fully
prepared
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
Tonight's
focus
is
going
to
be
about
the
state
of
the
operation,
the
State
of
the
Union.
What
type
of
work
is
being
done
at
Animal
Control?
M
What
how
much
work
is
being
done
at
animal
control
and
we're
also
going
to
be
the
step
talk
about
the
Staffing,
who
is
doing
the
work
at
out
of
control?
From
that
point,
on
we're
going
to
move
on
to
some
of
the
complaints
that
you
have
been
receiving
in
the
past,
we're
going
to
touch
base
with
the
animal
control,
Advisory
Board
and
we're
also
going
to
talk
about
our
volunteers.
M
M
Okay,
this
particular
statistics
are
going
through
10
months
of
2022,
starting
in
January
through
October
10
months,
I
have
used
those
numbers
and
compared
them
to
the
same
period
in
2021.
January
through
October
is
10
months.
So
let's
get
started
animals
impounded.
Those
are
animals
that
are
being
brought
in
from
our
field.
Officers
and
citizens
bring
bringing
animals
in
338.
Animals
on
average
are
brought
in
per
month
at
at
Animal
Control.
M
When
you
compare
that
to
2021,
that's
actually
a
10
decrease
and
I
know,
that's
surprising
for
you
to
hear,
but
that
is
a
decrease.
The
numbers
of
animals
adopted
from
Animal
Control
and
when
I
say
animals
adopted
at
Animal
Control.
What
I'm
talking
about
is
the
staff
Act
of
animal
control
actually
doing
the
adopting
out
31
adoptions
per
month,
When,
comparing
that
to
2021,
that
is,
a
22
percent
increase,
so
Animal
Control
is
certainly
showing
a
success
in
that
aspect,
animals
euthanized
per
month,
34.,
that
is
up
53
percent
over
20
21..
M
M
M
M
M
M
Now
we're
talking
about
impoundments
well
think
about
it.
Impoundments
animals
are
coming
in
coming
in
coming
in,
but
animals
are
also
going
out
going
out
going
out.
Think
of
the
game
musical
chairs
the
Music
Stops
at
any
one
point
in
time
at
Animal
Control,
there
are
approximately
100
animals
in
that
facility.
M
M
M
M
So
now
that
we've
talked
about
the
work
being
done,
the
type
of
work,
how
much
work
it
is,
let's
talk
about
who's,
doing
the
work.
Let's
talk
about
Staffing
on
this
table,
I
have
divided
Animal
Control
into
four
divisions,
which
is
I,
haven't
done
it.
That's
just
the
way
Animal
Control
is
set
up.
You
will
see,
there's
a
column
that
says
fully
staffed
for
animal
control
to
be
fully
staffed.
They
need
to
have
22
employees
divided
among
these
four
divisions.
M
M
at
2020.
It's
a
small
number,
it
says
18.
2021
says
13.,
and
then
we
follow
through
to
12..
You
might
ask
yourself
what
in
the
world
well
in
2020,
there
were
some
preliminary
com
conversations.
Some
initial
talk
about
a
change
in
management,
maybe
a
partnership,
maybe
some
changes
in
the
way
Animal
Control
was
going
to
be
run
in
the
future.
M
M
In
November
of
in
November
of
the
month
that
I
was
there
2022
two
of
these
officers
were
out
on
light
duty.
One
was
out
because
they
were
in
a
car
accident,
someone
hit
the
animal
control
truck
from
behind
and
they
were
injured.
The
second
person
actually
had
a
dog
bite
and
they
were
out
on
light
duty.
M
M
M
M
You
have
got
people
surrendering
animals,
you've
got
animals
being
euthanized,
you
see,
abused
animals
hurt
injured
animals.
There
are
citizens
that
come
in
that
are
frustrated
with
their
animals.
You
also
have
a
staff
that
is
struggling
with
capacity
issues.
Seeing
more
and
more
animals
come
in
every
day.
M
It's
the
citizens,
it's
the
staff.
It's
the
volunteers.
Everyone
involved
with
animal
control
faces
these
emotional
issues.
It
is
the
nature
of
the
Beast.
Please
don't
think
that
everything
is
negative.
There's
the
pendulum
that
swings.
When
a
citizen
comes
in
to
adopt
an
animal.
When
the
rescues
come
in
to
take
multiple
animals,
it
is
Happy
Days,
Happy
Days.
M
M
People
outside
of
animal
control
do
not
understand
or
have
a
complete
understanding
of
the
operations
at
Animal
Control,
the
state
of
Georgia,
the
Department
of
Agriculture
Department
of
Public
Health
Animal
Control
has
to
work
within
all
of
those
parameters.
There
are
processes
and
procedures
that
people
do
not
understand
why,
how
or
when
they
are
done.
M
Do
not
misunderstand
me,
not
all
comments,
and
not
all
complaints
are
not
true,
but
I
experienced
enough
of
those
to
realize
when
you
receive
something
like
that,
you
cannot
take
it
at
face
value
when
I
was
asked
to
do
this.
Audit
I
was
charged
with
finding
out
what
in
the
world
is
going
on
in
Animal
Control.
Why
is
it
so?
Emotional
I
was
asked
to
talk
to
volunteers,
board
members,
citizens,
the
staff,
so
I
had
quite
a
few
individual
meetings
that
I
would
consider
confidential.
M
M
M
That's
hurtful,
I
started
thinking,
you
know.
If
I
worked
in
food
service
and
I
Was
preparing
your
meal,
bringing
you
your
meal,
refilling,
your
water
glass,
removing
your
dirty
dishes
and
I
overheard.
You
saying
that
I
slung
hash
for
a
living
I
would
have
my
feelings
heard.
I
feel
that
it's
disrespectful
when
I
approached
people
and
asked
about
the
use
of
this
language,
they
told
me
that
it
was
to
get
attention
to
bring
attention
to
the
problem.
M
M
M
M
What
I
mean
by
that
is:
we've
got
some
veterinarians
on
the
board,
Department
of
Health
and
employees
from
Public
Works.
Five
members
are
citizens
that
are
appointed
by
Council.
I
would
like
to
make
a
recommendation
to
council
that,
prior
to
appointing
someone
to
the
board,
please
look
at
the
existing
members
and
make
sure
that
we
have
an
equal
distribution
of
all
affiliations
so
that
there's
no
leaning
to
one
side
or
the
other.
M
M
They
feel
that
they're
ineffective.
They
feel
like
they've,
tried
to
make
changes
and
they're
not
accepted.
They
feel
like
their
interactions,
are
met
with
resistance.
They
have
tried
to
make
changes
to
ordinances
that
they
have
not
been
successful.
Doing
I
would
like
to
say
that
a
review
of
the
minutes
of
those
boards
have
shown
successes
number
one
being
our
CBI
group
that
has
been
implemented.
M
Paul's
is
doing
everything
they
can
to
alter
as
many
animals
as
possible.
We
had
a
board
member,
donate
250
microchips
and
we're
also
partnering
with
Paul's.
They
have
an
employee
coming
in
on
site
to
counsel
with
citizens
before
surrendering
rendering
their
animals
in
hopes
of
resolving
whatever
issues
they
have
in
stopping
the
surrender.
M
My
recommendations
to
the
board
would
be
let's
focus
on
our
immediate
needs.
Please
come
to
animal
control
and
observe
and
experience
the
hurdles
that
are
being
met
every
day.
I
think
there
are
plenty
of
instances
that
will
come
naturally
about
things
that
need
to
be
done
to
help
things
in
the
immediate.
That's
going
to
do
several
things.
Number
one
is
going
to
build
trust
with
the
staff
is
going
to
give
the
board
some
feeling
of
success,
and
once
they
have
that
confidence
then
maybe
tackle
things
that
are
a
little
more
challenging
like
changing
of
ordinances.
M
M
In
looking
at
the
volunteer,
login
and
logout
sheet
in
2020,
there
was
574
instances
where
a
volunteer
came
in
and
donated
approximately
two
hours
of
their
time
in
2022
and
we're
just
talking
about
through
October.
There
were
49
instances
where
a
volunteer
came
in
and
donated
about
an
hour
and
a
half
in
speaking
with
volunteers.
M
They
felt
like
they
were
in
the
way
they
were
not
needed
when
they
came
to
volunteer,
they
didn't
know
what
needed
to
be
done.
They
didn't
know
what
had
been
done.
They
were
receiving
inconsistent
messages
from
different
members
of
the
staff
and
they
were
also
feeling
the
effects
of
a
stressful
environment.
M
Animal
Control
has
acknowledged
these
issues
and
has
been
realigning
staff.
We
have
got
a
volunteer
coordinator
that
is
going
to
organize
the
work,
that's
being
done
with
the
volunteers.
So
when
they
come
in,
they
know
what's
been
done.
They
know
what
needs
to
be
done
and
they
can
choose
whatever
their
interests
are
as
far
as
what
they
want
to
spend
their
time
doing
so
we're
definitely
moving
in
the
right
direction.
There.
M
When
I
went
through
the
volunteer,
log,
I
saw
the
same
names
over
and
over
and
over
again
that's
some
of
the
names
that
are
up
on
the
screen.
These
people
religiously
came
to
animal
control
and
they
were
passionate
about
the
work
that
they
were
doing.
Some
of
them
have
fallen
off
to
the
Wayside.
Some
of
them
are
still
there,
but
I
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
acknowledge
their
work.
Tell
them
they're,
appreciated
and
say
come
on
back.
M
That
concludes
the
audit
presentation.
My
experience
at
all
at
Animal
Control
has
been
very
much
like
all
of
the
experiences
of
everyone
else.
It's
been
very
emotional,
especially
when
you
are
dealing
with
capacity
issues,
the
staff,
the
board
volunteers,
members
of
the
agency
were
extremely
welcoming
to
me.
They
had
so
many
ideas
and
so
many
thoughts
on
how
they
could
work
together
and
bring
Animal
Control
forward.
B
And
Council
crab
and
I
mentioned
that
I
have
spoken
with
the
staff
about
bringing
back
a
recommendation
on
how
we
would
fund
increasing
the
number
of
runs.
That's
not
the
final
answer
to
this,
because
there's
legislative
issues,
enforcement
issues
that
we've
got
to
deal
with
too,
but
at
least
this
would
give
us
a
more
capacity
to
be
able
to
be
able
to
use.
N
B
L
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
number.
Seven
on
on
my
agenda
is
Atlanta
Humane,
Society,
Capital,
Improvement
Grant,
it's
a
grant
from
ten
to
thirty
thousand
dollars.
The
grant
can
be
used
to
pay
for
Capital
Improvements
to
the
facility,
and
this
particular
Grant
is
for
animal
Washington
and
animal
washing
station
and
a
meet
and
greet
area
will
also
be
created
and
there's
no
match
required
and
I
could
would
call
the
drill
short
the
director
of
Public
Works.
You
mentioned.
You
would
like
to
see
them.
L
The
funds
use
I
believe
you
said
for
extension
of
a
number
of
runs
or
something
like
that
and
as
a
mayor
indicated,
we
are
working
in
on
funding
a
funding
source
to
do
exactly
that.
I've
got
Deputy
City
to
manage
a
good
one.
Working
on
it.
I
do
anticipate
that
we
will
find
some
dollars
to
extend
the
number
of
runs,
but
it.
O
O
D
L
L
N
It
can
only
go
up
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
and
we
knew
that
we
were
looking
for
funds
to
try
and
expand
the
facility.
But
we
also
knew
that
to
add
on
runs
would
cost
more
than
thirty
thousand
dollars.
So
we
wanted
to
find
a
way
that
would
still
enhance
what
we
do
enhance
the
animals
so
that
they
are
more
adoptable.
O
N
H
N
H
B
L
And
Mr
Mayor,
while
she's
there,
you
know
I,
said
earlier
I
believe
we've
paid
M
waste
around
10
million
Financial
director
brought
me
a
note:
we've
actually
paid
them:
nine
million
two
hundred
fifty
eight
thousand
nine
hundred
ninety
eight
dollars
and
eight
cents
to
be
exact
ly,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
note.
Okay,
thank
you.
Trail.
D
M
D
N
Currently,
we
don't
have
any
post-certified
officers
in
Animal
Control.
We
never
have
in
order
to
have
a
post-certified
officers
in
order
to
get
a
different
security
level
of
inmate.
We
would
have
to
have
that
officer
sent
to
Forsyth
go
through
the
process
of
becoming
post-certified,
and
then
they
will
be
paid
through
the
public
safety
pay
plan,
including
the
public
safety
pension.
So
that
is
not
something
that
we've
discussed
in
the
past.
N
We've
always
been
able
to
get
blue
cards
which
only
required
an
employee
to
go
to
a
two-day
class
of
making
sure
those
inmates
are
being
handled
correctly.
We're
hoping
that
we
get
more
blue
card
inmates,
so
we
don't
have
to
go
to
per
certified
route.
I
would
also
say
that
when
we
have
inmates
in
the
facility,
it
is
just
critical
that
we
have
an
employee
with
those
inmates,
because
it
is
such
an
open
facility
and
you
will
have
issues
with
Contraband
people
sneaking
trying
to
come
in
to
see
loved
ones
and
things
of
that
nature.
N
D
Well,
definitely
want
to
have
a
conversation,
since
it
was
one
of
the
recommendations
and
we
do
want
to
ensure
that
we
are
safe
number
one
in
running
a
smooth
ship
over
there
at
a
Triple,
C
and
also
in
regarding
follow-up.
What
and
when
I
asked
Miss
Donna
McGinnis
it
would
be
nice
just
like
you
said
this
was
the
initial,
so
we
have
initial.
M
Absolutely
of
those
implementations
I
understand
your
desire
to
have
that
done
and
I
believe
it's
necessary,
but
I
would
like
to
say
that
as
I
was
going
through
and
doing
the
audit
actually
doing.
The
audit
I
was
talking
with
Katrina
Pearson,
with
different
findings
that
I
had,
and
she
was
immediately
implementing
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about.
P
Davis,
thank
you
mayor.
A
couple
things
come
to
mind
the
city
manager,
mayor
I,
a
couple
good
presentations.
I
would
like
to
thank
our
internal
auditor's
office.
You
know,
could
we
possibly
find
some
funds
to
maybe
do
a
development
study
and
take
a
look
at
what
it
would
you
know
what
it
would
cost?
We
need
to
understand
that.
Okay,
we
need
to
understand
full
of
what
it
would
what
it
would
take
to
build.
Some
additional
runs.
Okay,
obviously,
that
would
save
more
animals.
It
would
help
it
would
assist.
P
Based
on
what
I
heard,
with
all
these
guidelines,
whether
it's
from
the
state
or
the
department,
agriculture
or
other
entities
involved,
I
mean
you
still
have
to
operate
under
their
requirements
and
their
rules
and
regulations
and
laws,
but
still
it
would
be
an
opportunity
to
to
maybe
buy
some
time
that,
hopefully
we
can
get
some
of
these
animals
adopted
or
placed
out
in
out
in
the
community
and
I
see
those
challenges,
especially
growing.
You
know
now
that
we're
in
some
what
they
term
inflation
and
inflationary
period.
P
We've
never
done
that!
I!
Don't
think!
We've
ever
done
that,
but
just
to
take
a
look
at
it.
So
if
there
is
an
opportunity
to
do
some
kind
of
a
you
know
a
a
campaign
that
we
can
make
something
happen,
you
know
we
would
be.
We
would
know
what
we're
dealing
with
that's
the
first
thing,
I'd
like
to
present,
if
that's
possible.
P
The
second
thing
is
that
you
know
I
had
a
chance
to
sit
down
with
our
director
of
the
internal
auditor's
office,
and
you
know-
and
it
we've
been
dealing
with
a
lot
of
audits
and
things
and
and
I've
had
a
opportunity
from
a
distance
to
view
some
of
quote
the
interviews
and
things
and
then
talking
to
the
director
and
what
they
do
every
day.
Sometimes
we
don't
know
exactly
what
they're
doing
every
day
and
how
they
go
about
it,
but
they
they
put
a
lot
of.
P
P
So
I
would
like
to
I
didn't
really
forgive
me
for
not
understanding
that
part,
but
it
has
really
stood
out
to
me
in
the
last
several
months
of
what
our
Auditors
do
and
and
what
they're
doing
out
in
the
field
a
lot
of
times.
We
just
get
these
reports
like
today,
but
the
truth
of
the
matter
is
they're
moving
and
they're
doing
it
in
their
own
personal
vehicles
and
they're.
That's
you
know,
there's
a
weight
to
that.
O
Q
M
That
may
appear
to
be
a
resolution
to
some
of
the
issues,
but
it's
like
enlarging
your
closet,
the
more
room
you
have
the
more
stuff
goes
in.
We
learned
that
lesson
a
little
bit
with
the
crates.
We
were
trying
to
expand
our
capacity
and
we
realized
that
might
not
be
quite
the
right
direction
to
take
one
of
the
main
objectives.
I
think
that
is
valuable
for
animal
control
is
to
have
the
objective
of
lowering
the
number
of
animals
that
even
come
in
to
animal
control.
L
And
Mr
May,
if
I
may
come
in
on
that
and
I
absolutely
agree,
but
I
think
in
this
instant
I
mean
I
agree.
In
fact,
I
said
to
the
deputy
city
managers.
When
we
talked
about
finding
the
money
today
at
the
runs
I
yeah
I
want,
we
need
to
do
it,
but
I
told
them
as
soon
as
we
get
the
runs.
The
with
the
additional
runs
we're
going
to
fill
her
up.
L
I
L
Yes,
and
and
but
but
I,
think
in
this
instance,
we
we
do,
we
we
at
the
runs,
but
we
do
what
you
just
said
and
that
we
don't
have
to
then
go
forward
after
adding
these
additional
runs
and
say
immediately
after
we
have
completed
the
project
we
need
to
add
runs
because
you'll
keep
hearing,
we
need
to
add
more
runs
and
we'll
never
stop
saying
we
need
that
run.
So
we
need
to
do
these,
but
then
do
exactly
what
you've
said.
B
Now
I
I
I
agree,
but
but
I
do
think
that
a
community
our
size
needs
more
space
for
those
animals
that
it
has
to
be
accompanied
by
legislation.
That's
going
to
slow
or
eliminate
I'm,
not
advocating
just
yet
so,
don't
start
blowing
my
phone
up,
but
some
of
the
puppy
mills,
where
they're
they're,
they're
selling
dogs
and
in
pet
stores,
yeah,
and
so
you
know
getting
the
handle
on
that,
having
the
capacity
to
be
able
to
enforce
this
having
more
manpower
so
that
they
can
go
out
there
and
try
to
enforce
these
these
laws.
B
P
And
that's
in
respect
to
the
recommendation.
I
think
those
are
really
important.
Yes,
you've
got
to
work
on
the
current
now,
like
I,
said
I.
Think
having
a
study
helps
us
in
the
long
run.
We
don't
have
that
on
file,
but
yeah
you
have
to
kind
of
get
your
house
in
order
today
with
some
of
the
areas.
That's
why
I
mentioned
the
the
operational
Budget
on
the
side
like
to
see
what
it
would
take,
but
certainly
the
points
that
were
just
made
are
very
valid,
important
and
part
of
the
recommendation.
P
So
that's
not
discounting
the
recommendations.
I,
just
think
that
we
need
to
have
something
on
file,
doesn't
mean
you're
going
to
be
able
to
move
forward
with
it,
but
at
least
we
understand
it,
and
we
know
what
we're
talking
about,
because
there's
going
to
be
probably
an
additional
operating
cost
and
expenditure
that
comes
along
with
that.
Even
if
you
can,
you
know
with
what
you
see
up
here,
you're,
not
meeting
the
demand
of
the
needs
of
the
current
facility
as
far
as
the
labor
component.
R
F
Did
have
a
lot
to
get
through
on
our
agenda
got
a
lot
of
zoning
items,
we'll
call
up.
First,
the
planning
director
assistant
director
Renfro
is
here.
First
one
up
is
12
26
6th
Avenue,
going
from
light
manufacturing
to
up
uptown
Jack
Hayes
is
the
applicant
Mr
Hayes
is
here.
This
is
for
office,
use
I
believe.
F
F
L
L
S
S
Mr
city
manager,
I
would
recommend
that
we
not
have
a
we
not
limit
that
consent
agenda
to
15
minutes.
If
we
don't
deal
with
this
within
next
week,
it'll
be
the
second
week
in
February
and
I
know
that
these
folks,
who
are
looking
for
these
rezonings,
need
to
get
busy
on
doing
the
rezonings
and
I.
Don't
want
them
to
have
to
wait
three
weeks
to
do
that.
I
would
like
for
us
to
put
this
on
the
consent
agenda.
I
think
this
is
as
important,
if
not
more
important
than
taking
a
bus
ride.
T
S
Got
we've
got
seven
or
nine
what'd,
you
say
nine
different
ones.
Each
one
of
them
is
different.
You're
not
going
to
be
able
to
lump
them
all
together
and
vote
on
them.
You
have
to
vote
on
them
separately.
It
may
be
that
I
want
to
vote
Yes
on
number
one
and
know
on
number.
Two
and
I
can't
do
that.
If
you
lump
them
all
together,
I
do
not
agree
that
we
need
to
lump
them
together.
We
need
to
take
them
one
by
one.
F
F
F
B
U
He
is
yeah,
we
all
met
and
spoke
about
this
project
and
somehow
it
was
listed
once
as
just
a
packaged
liquor
store,
but
that's
not
what
it
is.
So
I
just
want
you
to
go
over
what
we
talked
about
and
the
Provisions
that
were
added
so
that
if
this
particular
business
goes
out
of
business,
it
goes
back
to
the
original
zoning.
V
Thank
you,
Council
huff
and
thank
you
Mr
Mayor,
Mr,
Mayor,
Pro,
tem
and
city
manager
for
y'all's
time.
I
know,
y'all
have
a
full
agenda,
so
I'll
try
to
be
brief,
but
to
councilor
Huff's
Point.
What
this
project
is
going
to
be
it's
a
building
right
next
to
dinglewood
Pharmacy
on
Winton
Road
right
immediately
next
door.
V
It
used
to
be
an
Aflac
office
building
and
they're
looking
to
make
a
high-end
Market
there
that's
going
to
have
like
a
little
butcher
shop
involved
to
sell
gifts,
kind
of
curated
gifts
and
and
high-end
food
products,
and
additional
also
sell
top
shelf
wine
beer
and
Spirits
to
go
with
the
food
they're
selling
there.
So
it'll
be
a
market
of
all
different
types
of
products
and
to
what
counselor
Huff
mentioned
there.
V
This
property
was
purchased
by
Mr,
Drew
Godwin
who's
here
as
well
tonight
and
his
Partners
Johnson
and
Crystal
treywick,
and
their
plans
to
put
this
Market
in
before
they
bought
it.
They
talked
to
Aflac,
and
so,
when
Aflac
knew
they
was
gonna.
These
people
were
gonna
remain
their
neighbors.
They
put
in
some
restrictive
covenants
actually
in
the
deed
that
are
recorded
in
the
county
records
they
run
with
the
the
land.
They
are
part
of
the
property
records.
V
They
apply
to
these
owners,
as
well
as
any
future
owners
of
this
property
and
those
restrictions
say
that
the
property
cannot
be
used
for
the
sale
of
cigarettes,
lottery
tickets
or
the
operation
with
tattoo
parlor
baby
shop,
massage
parlor
gas
station
or
adult
novelties
novelty
shop.
And
if
the
current
owners
sell
or
lease
the
property
to
a
third
party,
the
property
cannot
be
used
for
the
sale
of
alcohol
as
a
package
store.
F
F
F
X
Y
No,
and
and
what
it
is,
is,
will
white
when
he
purchased
the
apartments
there
rezone
this
little
strip
to
ro,
so
he
could
have
an
emergency
cut
through
to
Cooper
Creek
Road,
based
on
the
number
of
apartment
units.
Instead,
he
built
it
around
the
pool
where
it
goes
back
out
to
Veterans.
So
this
couple
came
along
and
bought
it
back
and
or
just
rezoning.
It
back
to
single
family,
so
it'll
be
part
of
their
yard.
F
Okay,
it
is
part
of
a
residential
lot
on
the
plat,
so
that
kind
of
imagine
my
job
position
for
more
grass
or
bushes,
but
we'll
bring
it
on
second
reading
and
then
see
if
there
any
further
questions
next
week,
all
right
next
one
Mr
Boyce
is
here:
this
is
for
40
30
veterans,
court,
auto
shop,
rest
motion,
application
going
from
Ro
to
General
commercial.
Any
questions
around
the
table,
no,
sir,
all
right
any
comments
for
or
against
Mr
Boyce
will
have
this
on
at
9
00
a.m.
F
Next
week
for
a
vote,
the
fifth
zoning
item
is
property
at
6330
Lynn,
Ridge
Avenue.
This
is
the
Columbus
Botanical
Garden
residential
office,
but
it's
single
family
use
I,
believe.
Is
there
anybody
here
from
Botanical
Garden,
all
right,
Mr
Gibson's
here
from
Pace
Graham
Law
Firm?
Are
there
any
questions?
F
F
Right
we'll
put
this
unless
there's
any
other
comments
for
or
against,
don't
see
any
hands,
we'll
put
this
on
for
a
vote
at
nine
a.m
next
week.
Thank
you.
Sir
next
item
is
a
Udo
text.
Amendment.
This
does
add
some
definitions
to
our
unified
development
ordinance.
It
deals
with
crypto
mining,
as
a
special
exception
use
in
heavy
manufacturing.
Is
that
right,
Mr
Johnson?
Y
F
Y
And
one
reason
we've
restricted
it.
So
much
is
we
allow
what
do
they
call
the
digital
digital
process?
The
phone
company
for
at
T,
for
instance,
has
one
right
there
across
from
Sputnik,
that
is
a
digital
exchange
or
data
processor
and
crypto
mining
companies
were
looking
at
Columbus
to
come
in
here
and
use
that
definition
as
a
way
to
get
in
here.
P
P
Y
Know
well,
you've
got
to
have
the
infrastructure
in
infrastructure
to
support
it
and
I'm
sure
Georgia
Power
has
that
infrastructure,
but
it
is
a
nuisance
use
on
many
levels
from
utilities.
Environmental
noise
CNN
had
a
big
story
last
week
on
the
One
commercial
in
Murphy,
North
Carolina,
which
is
not
20
miles.
25
30
miles
north
of
Clayton
Georgia
people
can't
sell
their
houses,
can't
sleep
at
night.
It
is
a
true
nuisance
problem.
Y
Some
of
these
small
towns
in
the
South
have
allowed
them
to
come
into
their
downtown
areas,
not
knowing
enough
about
them
and
have
just
about
ruined
their
downtowns.
They
look
like
a
substation,
so
there
and
I
think
the
one
in
Murphy
had
several.
They
had
several
buildings
built,
but
only
had
one
had
turbines
operating,
so
they
hadn't
even
finished
completion
of
the
development
and
it's
already
a
nuisance.
P
Y
P
A
special
exception,
but
I
you
know
if
I
would
ask
the
question:
do
we
need
to
understand
that
to
at
what
point
does
it
start
having
an
impact
in
your
community?
Where
can
you
hide
them?
Can
you
put
them
in
certain
places?
I
I
don't
know,
but
if
this
is
something
new
we're
getting
into
Maybe
talking
to
some
people
that
could
give
us
some
more
information
on.
It
might
be
not
a
bad
thing,
but
it
sounds
like
you've
been
doing
a
little
homework
of
your
own
on
it.
Yes,.
Y
F
F
Z
Turning
good
evening,
mayor
council,
Mr
city
manager,
a
brief
presentation
highlighting
the
current
short-term
rental
ordinance,
as
well
as
the
proposed
changes
under
consideration
tonight.
So
the
current
ordinance
was
adopted,
October
9th
2018.
It
was
originally
created
to
address
issues
with
the
tax
collection
rated
to
to
rentals.
In
the
past,
each
rental
was
responsible
for
collecting
and
remitting
hotel,
motel
tax,
local
taxes.
Since
we
implemented
this
state
law
has
changed,
and
now
the
host
websites,
such
as
Airbnb
VRBO,
are
now
required
to
collect
and
omit
that
tax
directly
to
the
city.
Z
So
each
rental
unit
is
no
longer
responsible
for
that
function.
It
requires
all
rentals
to
obtain
a
permit
for
inspections
and
codes
and
then,
after
they
get
a
permit,
my
department
they
maintain
a
business
license
from
the
finance
department
and
owners
and
agents
must
complete
a
background
check.
They
are
permitted
in
all
residential
and
Commercial
districts.
Z
Currently,
the
ordinance
does
allow
the
license
to
be
revoked
if
they
get
three
code
violation:
convictions
within
a
12-month
period,
That's,
not
through
warnings,
that's
three
convictions,
which
means
they
went
to
court
Recorder's
court
and
got
found
guilty
of
an
offense
minimum
fines.
First
offense
is
500
second
750
and
then
third
is
a
thousand.
Z
So
over
the
past
year
again,
we
started
working
on
this
revision.
Over
a
year
ago,
we
started
getting
complaints
more
about
short-term
rentals
being
a
nuisance
to
neighborhoods.
So
some
of
the
most
common
complaints
were
that
the
rentals
were
being
used
as
a
party
house
that
they
weren't
being
properly
monitored
by
the
the
owners
and
agents
in
the
the
guests
were
using
them
as
party
houses,
lack
of
communication
between
the
neighbors
and
the
rental
owners.
F
Z
Planks
brought
to
us
from
the
citizens
and
that's
why
we
brought
forward
some
of
these
proposed
Solutions.
So
the
provisions
of
the
current
ordinance,
such
as
permitting
the
minimum
fines
license
taken
away
all
remain
the
same
one
additional
hurdle
that
The
Advocates
would
have
to
do
is
they
would
be
required
to
notify
the
adjacent
property
owners
that
they
are
intending
to
be
a
short-term
rental,
so
they
would
be
provided
to
send
certified
mail
and
provide
all
their
contact
information
for
the
owner
and
the
agent.
That
would
be
a
new
addition
to
the
application
process.
Z
A
door
stick
will
be
provided
by
inspections
and
code.
It
wouldn't
be
a
huge
red.
You
know,
12
by
12
sticker
it'd
be
a
small,
pretty
discreet
sticker
that
can
be
placed
on
the
door
of
the
unit,
and
that
is
intended
to
identify
the
property
as
a
short-term
rental.
So
any
responding
officer
can
know
that
this
is
a
rental.
Specifically,
you
know
after
hours
calls
with
CPD
or
whoever
is
responding
to
the
call.
They
can
easily
know
that
this
is
a
a
short-term.
G
Z
Proposed
ordinance
would
clearly
limit
the
number
of
documents
to
no
more
than
16
and
it
clarifies
that
a
short-term
rental
is
intended
to
be
a
minimum
stay
of
24
hours.
So
you
can't
rent
a
rental
for
two
hours
and
turn
around
and
rent
it
again
for
two
hours
that
same
day,
that's
an
event
center,
not
a
short-term
rental.
Z
Showing
the
current
rentals
in
Columbus,
you
know
we
got
this
data
through
a
partnership
with
the
convention
and
visitors
bureau.
They
have
a
contract
with
software
company
that
pulls
data
from
all
the
websites
and
can
send
us
a
list
of
addresses
so
there's
approximately
350
throughout
the
city.
Currently
175,
approximately
175
are
properly
permitted.
Z
O
Z
I
showed
those
maps
to
go
to
this
next
part,
which
the
proposed
ordinance
would
introduce
a
cap
in
historic
districts
throughout
the
city,
including
the
downtown
historic
district
and
the
Maricopa
St
Elmo.
Additional
caps
can
be
added
later
at
council's
discretion.
So
there's
another
part
of
town
that
has
an
influx
of
rentals.
We
can
certainly
create
a
district
that
captures
that
area
of
town
and
Implement
a
cap
in
that
part
of
town
owner
occupied
rentals
would
be
exempt
from
the
cap.
Z
So
the
examples
of
the
proposed
cap,
the
proposed
ordinance
from
the
planning,
department
and
staff,
recommends
a
10
cap
so
in
the
downtown
historic
district.
That's
10
percent
of
all
the
parcels
in
the
historic
district
which
equates
to
44
Parcels
again
you'll,
see
in
the
staff
report
of
that.
That
pack
did
recommend
the
five
percent
cap
across
the
board.
So
again,
there's
the
note
about
the
50
rentals
currently
operating
35,
which
are
legal,
and
then
you
can
see
the
same
numbers
there
for
the
where
Coba,
Saint,
Elmo
historic
district.
Z
So
they
are,
they
are
required
to
have
the
permit
displayed
in
the
unit,
but
they're
not
required
to
have
anything
on
the
exterior,
so
again,
they're
required
to
have
the
permit
in
there
and
there
may
be
other
regulations.
You
know
the
websites
are,
you
know
those
rules,
but
for
our
city,
ordinances
they're
only
required
to
display
the
permit
inside
of
the
unit.
H
G
Z
So
there
was,
we
did
consider
that
there
is
a
consideration
of
the
the
rental
owner
or
agent's
privacy
as
far
as
having
their
phone
number
you
know
displayed
just
out
on
the
front
door.
There
were
some
concerns
about
that.
The
intent
for
the
stickers
is,
you
know
it
would
just
strictly
have
a
permit
number
or
some
other
identification
on
it,
then
that
a
responding
officer
can
go
back
and
reference
a
database
and
pull
up
all
that
information.
W
In
the
in
regards
to
that,
sticker
I
have
a
a
little
bit
of
reservations
on
on
the
sticker,
just
that,
if
we're
labeling
our
houses
that
are
airbnbs
that
are
either
vacant
or
have
out
of
town
guests
in
them,
they
now
become
Prime
targets
for
breaking
and
entering
for
for
car
thefts.
Just
because
if
I
were
a
thief
and
I
was
going
to
go
around
and
knock
on
car
doors.
I
now
know
that
you're
out
of
town-
and
you
likely
do
not
know
the
processes
of
contacting
the
police.
W
Therefore
I
have
a
little
bit
more
time
to
get
away
so
I
do
I,
do
have
some
reservations
on
the
sticker.
Is
there
a
way
that
we
can
communicate
with
our
police
department
and
tag
that
within
the
police
department,
if
somebody
were
to
call
9-1-1
and
be
able
to
have
that
information
available
on
the
back
end
rather
than
and
I
mean
even
if
it's
a
little
a
little
sticker
on
the
door
I've
had
people
knock
on
my
door,
who
should
not
be
on
knocking
on
my
door
and
I
I.
Z
So
we
have,
in
the
past,
had
a
limited
sharing
of
information
with
the
the
police
department.
The
sticker
we
felt
was
the
most
foolproof.
You
know
way
to
ensure
that,
because,
as
soon
as
you
get
your
permit,
you
know
we're
going
to
hand
you
that
sticker
right
at
the
same
time
and
you
make
sure
it
gets
placed
on
the
door,
so
we
felt
that
was
the
most
foolproof
way
to
do
it.
S
S
Z
Z
S
Z
Right
now
we
handle
the
short-term
rental
complaints
strictly
on
a
complaint
basis,
so
we
are
currently
not
proactively.
You
know
researching
the
web
and
pulling
the
data.
We,
you
know,
rely
on
the
the
neighbors
to
call
and
report
an
unlicensed
short-term
rental,
and
then
we
read
it
currently
like
any
other
business
that
didn't
get
the
proper
business
license.
Z
So
we
go
issue
them
a
warning,
give
them
a
period
to
come
into
compliance
and
then,
if
they
fail
to
do
that,
then
we
issue
citations
and
so
far
all
the
rentals
that
we
have
gone
out
and
worn
and
said:
hey.
You
know
you
have
to
get
this
permit.
You
have
to
get
a
license.
They
have
all
complied
with
that
immediately,
so
we
haven't
gotten
to
the
level
of
issuing
citations.
Once
the
revisions
are
in
place
and
everything
is
finalized,
we
do
have
a
plan
to
get
more
proactive
enforcement
policy.
S
U
U
Okay:
okay,
okay,
okay,
you
can
be
seated.
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
know
who
was
still
here.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here,
I
think,
last
time
a
couple
of
you
misunderstood
me
and
thought
that
I
was
against
the
five
percent.
Some
of
that
district
is
in
my
district
in
District
three,
so
I've
been
for
it
the
whole
time.
My
question
has
been
to
director
Pruitt,
as
we
implement
the
five
percent
for
the
park
district.
Why
can't
we
implement
the
five
percent
for
the
city
so.
Z
O
Z
Of
those
rentals
are
going
to
concentrate
in
these
heavily
puppy,
you
know
where
the
rentals
currently
are
they're
going
to
be
downtown
and
in
our
historic
district.
So
we
have
not
seen
the
overwhelming
number.
We
know
there
are
rentals,
you
know
here
and
there
in
those
other
subdivisions
in
parts
of
town,
but
the
concentration
you
know
is
really
only
in
those
historic
districts.
Z
U
P
P
Z
You
know
by
a
bedroom
basis,
or
you
know
something
like
that,
was
how
strict
it
was,
and
you
know
I
might
have
a
two
bedroom
unit,
but
I
may
have
a
family,
that's
renting
it
for
a
military
graduation
and
wants
to
have
Grandma
and
Grandpa
and
everybody
stay
with
them,
and
so,
if
they
were
limited
to
six
people
just
because
they
had
the
two
bedrooms,
then
that
could
inhibit
their
ability
to
have
those
functions.
So
that's
why
we
went
with
the
16.
P
Well,
I'm,
just
thinking
out
loud
here,
there's
a
you
know:
I,
don't
know
many
places
in
Columbus.
It's
going
to
hold
16
inhabitants,
be
honest
with
you
and
if
you
were
to
put
them
in
a
small
area
in
a
small
floor
plan,
it's
probably
going
to
have
an
impact
in
some
way.
Somehow
so
I'm
just
asking
the
question:
do
we
need
to
look
at
that
Memorial
on
basis
along
square
feet
or
maybe
limiting
that
from
a
standpoint
I
can
see.
P
16
people
live
in
a
house
in
down
in
Lake
Bottom
area
and
having
four
cars,
and
just
the
house
packed
and
lots
of
noise
all
over
you
know
just
I
don't
have
to
walk
you
through
a
potential
scenario,
but
you
get
the
picture
I'm
just
asking
that
question.
If
we
need
to
to
find
that
a
little
better
yeah.
P
P
And
granted
I
can
see
children
being
a
lot
different
than
adults.
You
know
you
may
be
able
to
put
more
children
in
a
room,
but
certainly
if
you
have
eight
couples-
and
you
know
two
thousand
square
foot
property
I
mean
that's
most
likely
it's
four
cars
and
a
lot
of
other
things
that
go
along
with
it.
You
know
yeah
so.
O
P
X
P
W
I
have
a
couple
questions:
the
can.
The
Airbnb
licenses
be
transferred
under
the
same
owner,
but
then
can
they
transfer
that
ownership
or
that
license
from
house
to
house
so
say
if
I
owned
a
house
and
I
owned
a
apartment
and
my
house
is
gonna,
generate
more
income
for
me
and
I'm
under
a
cap.
What's
to
stop
me
from
switching
my
license?
Can
I
switch
my
license
from
from
my
apartment
to
my
house
and
generate
more
income
from
a
business
perspective,
so.
Z
Z
W
W
Okay
and
then
is
like
we're
talking
about
two
different
like
wildly
different
areas,
so
we
have
the
downtown
which,
if
you
look
at
the
numbers
on
your
on
page
10
of
the
PowerPoint,
is
operating
at
50..
So
if
we're
talking
about
a
10
cap,
really
they're
I
mean
if
we
count
the
legally
operating
airbnbs
that
are
still
still
operating,
they're
they're
pretty
much
at
a
10
cap.
W
W
Ballpark
number,
so
is
there
an
opportunity,
I
guess
when
I'm
asking,
is
there
an
opportunity
to
split
those
historic
districts
and
put
different
caps?
I
I
mean
I
am
in
favor
of
a
cap.
Just,
let
me
be
be
clear:
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be.
There
does
need
to
be
a
cap,
but
I
I
think
those
I
think
we
do
need
to
split
them
up
and
look
at
the
individual
needs
of
the
neighborhoods.
X
Z
In
the
future,
essentially
you'd
create
an
overlay
District
similar.
You
know
we
have
overlay
districts
around
some
of
our
corridors
and
that,
but
basically
you
would
set
the
legal
boundaries
of
a
district
and
then
you
would
Institute
the
cap
in
that
specific
District.
So
that's
the
model
that
Savannah
has
taken
with
their
approaches.
They
created
individual
overlay
districts
throughout
the
city
and
then
instituted
caps
within
those
districts.
G
B
D
Understand
what
Airbnb
that
we
have
in
our
areas,
but
I
will
say-
and
I
mentioned
it
a
while
ago
about
nuisance
during
Kobe
when
we
was
having
these
parties
and
we
was
calling
people
would
get
airbnbs
and
you're
saying
16
people
they'll
have
30,
and
this
was
in
District
Four,
it
close
to
100
people.
And
sadly,
when
you
have
you
saying
16,
that's
that's
yeah
that
that's
really
setting
us
up
for
failure
and
possibly
some
issues
where
we
have
to
call
the
police
so
definitely
pull
that
number
down.
D
Z
So
to
to
my
knowledge,
the
only
one
that
would
have
the
legally
operating
permitted
rentals
over
a
five
percent
cap
would
be
the
downtown
historic
district.
It's
my
understanding
that
those
over
the
cap
would
be
allowed
to
continue
to
operate
since
they
already
have
their
permits
and
are
legally
operating
today.
Well,.
S
That
that
would
be
my
question
is:
if
I,
if
they
already
have
the
permit,
is
there
something
that
we
can
put
into
the
ordinance
that
says
when
that
permit?
If
that
permit
expires
or
goes
to
somebody
else,
that
number
I
mean
it
go,
it
goes
down
to
the
five
percent
I
I
I
agree
with
the
five
percent
and
I
want
us
to.
S
You
know:
let's,
let's
look
at
that,
but
I
also
don't
want
to
put
people
out
of
business
that
have
airbnbs
and
that
they
followed
the
proper
procedure
when
they
established
their
Airbnb.
So,
let's,
let's
take
a
look
at
the
language
and
make
sure
that,
as
these
things
change,
that's
when
the
numbers
have
to
come
down
and
once
it
gets
to
that
five
percent.
That's
it!
B
B
H
W
Z
Down
so
we
again,
we've
I
got
this
data
last
week
from
The
Visitors
Bureau,
so
I
haven't
even
gone
through
and
you
know
verified
the
addresses
and
looked
at
the
rentals
online,
but
how
we
work
it
now
is.
If
we
get
a
complaint
from
a
citizen
that
there's
an
Airbnb
next
door
to
me
and
they're,
creating
these
problems.
Of
course,
we
first
go
check
and
see.
If
it's
license,
if
it's
unlicensed,
then
we
go
to
the
unit,
try
to
make
contact
with
somebody.
We
look
at
the
ownership
of
that.
Z
A
lot
of
them
are
owned
out
of
town.
They
are
out
of
town.
We
do
send
certified
mail
to
them.
You
know
notifying
them.
They
have
a
period
of
time
to
get
into
compliance
if
they
fail
to
do
that,
we'll
continue
to
reach
out
to
them,
and
you
know,
try
to
issue
citations
did
confirm
with
the
city
attorney
that
we
are.
Z
You
know.
If
push
comes
to
shove
at
the
end
of
end
of
the
line
that
you
know,
we
could
just
like
any
other
business
establishment
operating
illegally.
We
could
you
know,
barricade
or
padlock
the
doors
to
prevent
future
operation
of
that.
So
that
would
be,
you
know
if
we
can't
ever
reach
somebody
to
cite
them
or
they're
an
out-of-town
owner.
That's
you
know
kind
of
the
last
straw
that
we
have
so.
Z
O
F
Okay,
all
right
so
well,
it
doesn't
sound
like
we're
gonna,
be
ready
for
a
second
reading
next
week.
If
we're
talking
about
changing
numbers
or
reducing
these
caps
changing
possibly
the
sticker
requirement,
maybe
eliminate
that
change
the
occupant
load
per
bedroom.
So
it
sounds
like
it's
going
to
be
February
before
this
comes
back,
but
I
do
want
to
offer
folks
here
a
chance
to
talk
mayor.
If.
B
No,
absolutely
the
only
thing
we
would
ask
is,
if
you
have
a
spokesperson
to
let
them
come
first
and
and
try
not
to
repeat
what
somebody
else
has
said.
If
you
have
a
separate
issue,
we
want
to
hear
it,
but
just
to
so
you
don't
have
to
sit
here
any
longer.
We
don't
repeat
the
same
issues:
Mr
city
manager,.
L
Mayor
I
was
just
trying
to
be
clear
on
this
occupancy
occupant
load
and
use
it
so
so
many
per
bedroom
all
right,
I'm
trying
to
be
clear
my
mind.
If
it's
talking
about
the
number
of
visitors
in
the
house
versus
the
number
of
people
who
will
sleep
in
the
house,
I
I,
don't
know
why
I'm
thinking
the
intent
is
it's
two
different
things.
You
know
it's
like
in
this
room.
We
have
a
capacity
and
that
capacity
may
be
300.
L
B
Yeah
and
I
think
the
biggest
challenge
is:
is
that
just
like
anything
else,
you've
got
some
people
that
operate
airbnbs
and
do
it
the
right
way,
they've
got
one.
You
know
they
may
lease
it
to
somebody's
Mama
who's
out
at
Fort,
bending
and
they're,
going
to
bring
their
buddies
over
and
you're
going
to
have
12
13
14
guys
having
a
home-cooked
meal,
and
you
got
the
other
folks
that
are
out
there
just
as
soon
as
they
open
the
door.
They
start
throwing
a
party
for
20
people
in
there
and
I.
B
L
F
F
K
K
We
have
been
working
under
the
2019
ordinance
for
four
or
five
years
and
we
have
not
gotten
any
help.
We
don't
our
neighborhoods
don't
get
help.
Our
neighborhoods
are
historic
because
we
made
them
historic.
I've
lived
there
40
years,
the
people
in
there
in
order
to
keep
them
historic.
We
don't
need
10
percent
more
in
our
neighborhood.
K
K
K
Yes,
they
do
because
they're
trying
to
save
money
so
so
that
is,
that
is
another
issue.
So
there's
several
issues
that
are
in
the
ornament
or
ordinance.
So
can
we
if
y'all
are
available?
If
y'all
like
the
five
percent,
can
we
vote
since
it's
just
a
text
amendment?
Can
we
vote
tonight
say
five
percent?
Take
that
off
the
ordinance.
B
X
B
X
K
K
B
Be
there
would
have
to
be
I
think
what
they
were
asking
for
was
some
discussion
so
that
they
could
everybody
feel
comfortable
about
passing
a
number
that
worked
everywhere:
I,
don't
I'm
not
advocating
for
10
I'm.
Just
saying
explain
it
to
you.
Why
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
hesitancy
on
party
Council
to
go
straight.
Five
percent
right.
K
Now
so
if
there
was
a
five
percent
in
the
historic
district,
in
my
opinion
that
will
knock
out
the
15
illegal
houses
that
have
been
there
illegal
since
2019.,
so
the
council
and
the
City
has
not
moved
forward.
Knowing
these
houses
are
illegal
because,
like
Ryan
said,
they're
only
cited,
if
somebody
complains
so.
O
B
K
F
U
K
U
J
K
U
Needs
time
to
work
toward
her
District,
so
the
part
here
you
all
seem
to
be
set
on
five.
So
let's
just
toss
that
to
director
Pruitt
that
the
where
Cobra,
Park,
District
Saint
Elmo
is
good
with
five
percent.
You
all
can
go
back
and
discuss
that
he
can
take
that
in
his
plans
and
moving
forward
to
see
if
we're
gonna
have
to
legally
do
it
uniformly.
Uniformity
has
to
be
on
the
table
or
we
need
to
move
forward
and
split
it
at
five
percent
of
different
different
percentages
across
the
board.
F
My
say
is
not
to
vote
on
it
tonight,
but
I
would
recommend
you
think
about
a
uniform
percentage,
whether
it's
five,
whether
it's
seven
or
whether
it's
ten
percent,
you
can't
you
could
look
at
districts
individually,
but
then
you
run
the
risk
of
some
sort
of
an
equal
protection
challenge
or
a
due
process
challenge.
So,
as
your
lawyer
I'm
telling
you
to
try
to
keep
it
uniform
at
one
percentage
in
each
district,
whatever
that
may
be
Mr.
L
L
L
U
That's
what
I'm
saying
we
got
to
figure
it
out
to
the
point
of
keep
the
numbers
down.
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
give
Council
cover
time
to
work
it
out,
because
I
I
see
where
you're
coming
from,
because
where
you're
located
and
the
river
and
everything
that
goes
on
downtown
is
a
lot
going
on
down
there
and
at
the
where
Copa
St
Elmo
District.
You
know
it's
removed
from
that,
so
they
have
a
different
way
of
looking
at
things
in
a
different
way.
They
would
like
to
do
business
on
that
side,
so
everybody.
K
K
And
you
read
the
ads
one
block
from
Park
one
block
from
Park
one
block
from
Park,
so
we
are
getting
really
inundated
with
people
who
come
in
all
right.
We
just
sold
a
house
on
my
street
that
somebody
from
out
of
town
called
one
of
the
house
because
it
had
a
pool
he
offered
fifteen
thousand
dollars
over
the
asking
price.
In
order
to
get
that
house.
K
U
K
K
K
K
C
K
K
I
also
feel
like
Mr
Huff
is
understands
the
ordinance,
because
last
time
he
was
the
only
one
that
said
to
the
council.
What
do
you
mean?
We
didn't
put
a
cap
on
this
ordinance,
so
in
2019
y'all
there
should
have
been
a
cap
on
it.
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
things
in
here
which
other
people
are
going
to
come
up
and
tell
you
that
are
not
being
taken
care
of,
because
we
don't
you,
don't
have
the
staff.
So
why
do
you
go
up
to
10?
Why
do
you
add
more?
X
Well,
let's,
let's
keep
in
mind,
this
is
a
new,
a
new
ordinance,
it's
a
work
in
progress
and
and
we're
we're
going
to
get
there
we're
Columbus
Georgia's
not
used
to
Airbnb,
so
we're
we're
going
to
get
there
and
I'm
not
trying
to
talk
down
what
you
said.
I
appreciate
you
being
I
appreciate
your
comments.
O
Y
X
O
K
So
they
are
in
their
Midtown
is
so
that's
a
Sunset
that
so
I
realize
that
there
are
some
people
that
have
already
made
up
their
mind
and
they
want
the
10
percent
and
I
hate
that
the
hate
for
to
hear
that
from
the
council
before
we
even
get
here
their
mind's
already
made
up.
That's
a
disappointment
to
me
so
with
that
said,
thank
y'all.
When,
when
will
we
have
this
meeting,
because
we
continuously
we've
been
put
off
since
September
I.
X
AB
AB
I
think
it's
it's
hard
to
summarize,
because
you
know
each
person
it's
their
own
personal
investment
and
so
I
feel
a
little
bit
uncomfortable
speaking
for
others,
but
I
can't
I
do
believe.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
who
share
my
concerns
and
thank
you
very
much
for
the
thoughtful
comments
made
tonight
already:
yeah
counselor,
Davis,
counselor,
Alan,
City
attorney
Faye,
because
several
things
I
find
really
concerning
about
this.
First
of
all,
I
would
like
to
know
how
is
Council
aware
of
the
total
amount
of
parcels.
AB
I
know,
Ryan
I
think
gave
them
to
us
earlier
for
440
I
think
was
the
count
which
is
what
they,
based
that
10
off
of
I
went
to
the
arcgis
that
the
tax
assessor
provides
and
I
pulled
within
the
downtown
historic
district,
actually
485
Parcels,
but
is
Council
aware,
then
that,
because
we're
zoned
historic,
we
have
several
use
classes
in
the
historic
district
and
so
of
those
there
are
117
commercial
entities
just
in
our
little
25
blocks.
Already
there
are
one
I'm,
sorry
30
to
38.
AB
167.
in
our
25
blocks,
so
if
you
add
to
that
another
50.
I
believe
are
the
existing.
If
you
go
on
the
American,
Planning
Association
I
should
say:
I'm
a
certified
planner
by
trade
I
hold
American
Institute
of
certified
planning
designation.
So
that
means
you
either
have
a
master's
in
five
years
as
a
planner
or
ten
years
as
a
planner
before
they
even
let
you
sit
for
the
test,
so
I
definitely
have
some
planning
knowledge,
not
that
I'm.
An
expert.
AB
These
guys
are
the
experts
for
sure,
but
I
do
know
my
way
around
the
APA
and
the
APA
recently
has
published
a
lot
about
airbnbs
because
they
are
not
a
very
compatible
use
to
residential
communities.
The
health
of
a
residential
Community
could
not
be
gauged
by
an
increasing
number
of
airbnbs.
You
have
strangers
coming
in
every
day.
AB
Nobody
in
an
Airbnb
runs
a
background
check,
there's
no
mandatory
sexual
predator
reporting
for
people
who
come
in
and
run
an
Airbnb,
and
if
you
have
families
with
small
children
again
a
sign
of
a
healthy
neighborhood,
you
know:
are
they
supposed
to
lock
their
children
in
the
back
yard
all
the
time?
Because
of
a
constant
stream
of
strangers,
so
a
few
things
that
I
like
to
say
that
I
personally
find
issue
with
is
the
24-hour
requirement.
AB
That's
just
an
invitation
for
a
house
party.
They
may
as
well
just
rent
it
for
an
hour.
In
my
personal
opinion,
16
people
I
have
six
bedrooms
four
and
a
half
baths
and
I
wouldn't
dare
try
to
see
keep
16
people
in
my
house
overnight.
That
is
inordinate
number
of
people
to
be
in
a
small
house.
Most
of
the
airbnbs
are
small
houses
and
I'd
like
the
city.
To
consider
that
we,
you
know
everything's
tight,
but
I
am
a
graduate
of
the
citizens.
AB
Law
Enforcement
Academy
here
at
the
city,
I've
done
a
ride
along
with
a
policeman
I've
gone
through
months
and
months
and
months
of
them
explaining
to
us
how
hard
their
job
is
and
when
they
hear
bullets
and
sirens
I
run
the
other
way
and
they
run
to
it.
Okay,
so
I
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
our
law
enforcement
and
they're
already
stretched
to
the
maximum
and
I
can
remember.
The
night
I
went
on
the
ride
along
and
we
went
to
domestics
he's
like.
AB
Are
you
getting
out
and
I'm
like
you've
got
a
bulletproof
vest
I'm,
not
getting
out
I
wouldn't
get
out
at
the
domestics,
it's
scary,
and
so
you
have
people
drinking
and
partying,
and
who
knows
what
we
have
no
criminal
background
on
these
people,
not
to
mention
the
fact
that
when
you're
in
a
residential
area,
you
look
at
your
neighbor's
house,
you
see
if
something
funny
is
going
on.
That's
what
leads
to
a
healthy
neighborhood,
and
you
know
with
strangers
in
a
majority
of
the
Parcels
there.
AB
How
is
it
that
you're
supposed
to
even
know
if
those
people
belong
there
or
not?
Just
before
Christmas
I,
don't
mean
to
be
dramatic,
but
there
was
a
beautiful
young
lady
who
was
abducted
by
a
FedEx
driver
or
some
delivery
company
driver
and
that
man
killed
that
child
and
dumped
her
in
the
woods
somewhere.
AB
All
I'm
saying
is:
please
recognize
that
strangers
on
a
constant
strength
right
next
to
your
home
might
be
allowed
because
we're
in
the
historic
district
or
might
be
allowed
period
and
people
really
love
coming
to
the
downtown
area.
Why?
Because
we
have
a
beautiful
downtown,
it's
on
every
Chamber
of
Commerce
advertisement.
It's
on
every
convention
and
Bureau
convention
and
visitors
bureau
advertisement
we're
right
next
to
Whitewater.
People
want
to
have
the
convenience
of
renting
in
our
neighborhood,
but
you
know
we
have.
AB
We
do
have
hotels,
we
do
have
bed
and
breakfast
Airbnb
is
not
the
only
solution
to
this.
I
want
to
say
that
I
appreciate
the
people
who
are
my
neighbors,
who
have
airbnbs
in
their
own
neighborhood
I,
feel
like
they
do
care
about
what's
happening
and
going
on
and
they're
just
a
street
over,
but
we
don't
have
any
way
to
regulate
that.
Perhaps
we
could
I,
don't
know,
I
think
there
might
be
a
legal
challenge
to
saying
only
locals.
Can
own
airbnbs
but
I.
AB
Just
I
appreciate
your
comments
about
the
undesirable
nature
of
these
airbnbs
and
personally
I
wish.
We
could
limit
it
to
one
percent,
because
it's
not
what
makes
a
healthy
neighborhood
and
we
you
know
20
years
ago
or
in
the
60s,
when
the
zoning
was
put
into
place
for
historic.
It
allowed
abuse
of
commercial
mix
of
commercial
and
residential,
because
the
thought
was
that
people
would
live
above
their
businesses,
and
then
everybody
here
knows
that
the
historic
districts
back
then
were
something
very
different.
AB
AB
AB
P
You
know,
I'm,
just
curious
and
I'll
just
throw
this
in
there
I,
don't
you
know,
I'm
a
City
attorney.
This
is
probably
in
your
Arena,
but
when
do
you
or
do
you
get
in
the
position
of
creating
a
monopoly
in
areas
for
certain
people
or
people
versus
allowing
up
more
of
a
free
market
type
situation?
I,
you
know
not
I,
don't
know,
but
I'm.
Just
asking
with
this
I
know
that
there's
people
that
own
a
lot
of
these
and
they
do
a
lot
of
business.
How,
with
the
decisions
we're
making?
P
How
does
that
impact
the
opportunity
for
others
to
do
business
as
well,
when
when
does
it
cross
the
line
of
a
discriminatory
type
nature
and
doing
business
now,
I'm
all
for
I'm,
just
saying
I'm,
I'm
partial
to
the
hotel
industry,
so
I
have
my
own
thoughts
on
airbnbs
and
and
these
rentals,
but
I
think
you
have
to
ask
that
I,
don't
know
if
it
applies
here,
I,
really
don't
the
city
manager.
You
started
along
that
line
of
the
numbers,
the
actual
put
numbers
out
there
versus
percentages
and
it
kind
of
struck
me.
L
F
Z
So
when
you
come
apply
because
you
have
to
complete
a
background
check
first,
so
you
go
to
the
police
department
or
other
law
enforcement
agency.
Complete
that
background
check,
bring
us
all
the
paperwork
we
review,
it
make
sure
everything's
in
compliance,
we've
also
send
a
building
inspector
to
the
proposed
rental.
You
know
to
ensure
that
there's
smoke
detectors
that
it's
you
know
generally
habitable
for
people,
then
they
sign
off
on
it,
and
then
we
approve
the
permit
from
us.
Z
X
My
but
and
in
that
interim,
are
you
sending
notices
to
the
adjacent
Property
Owners?
We
do
not
do
that.
Currently,
you
do
not.
Okay,
I
would
like
that
added
in
and
I
would
like
to
do
300
feet
around
the
property
and
the
reason
I'm
saying
that
is
just
sitting
here
through
the
discussion.
Basically,
what
we're
doing
is
we're
allowing
a
business
to
go
in
a
neighborhood
without
the
privilege
or
the
or
the
without
the
requirement
of
a
rezoning,
so
they
can
just
go
and
open
a
business,
and
nobody
knows
the
difference.
X
I
mean
I
had
one
in
mind,
that's
why
I
got
upset
a
while
ago,
neighbors
called
me
and
there's
a
party
going
on.
You
know
they
didn't
even
know
the
lady
had
moved
out
of
town
and
and
put
it
on
listed
it
on
Airbnb.
Of
course
she
didn't
have
a
license,
and
all
that
but
and
I
think
you
went
after
her
to
your
credit
and
got
her
straight
and
she
had
to
follow
up
and
and
file
all
the
right
paperwork.
X
X
W
W
Thanks
Verona
for
all
the
the
words
you
know,
if
you
do
factor
in
just
a
back
us
up
to
the
the
parcels,
I
mean
that
does
change
the
percentages.
A
lot
so
I
I
think
going
back,
and
if,
when
we're,
when
we're
looking
at
this
as
a
council,
just
making
a
very
clear
number,
that's
very
black
and
white
that
we
can
say
yes
we're
over
or
yes
we're
we're
under
doesn't
leave
any
it.
W
F
AC
Good
evening,
I'm
Robin
tramarki
I
live
at
720,
Broadway
and
I'm.
Currently,
the
the
current
president
of
historic
district
preservation
Society,
the
https
board
of
directors,
has
voted
twice
on
the
cap
in
the
past
six
months
in
August,
if
I
recall
correctly,
Mr
Pruitt's
numbers
for
the
cap
was
based
on
330
residential
Parcels,
which
would
have
been
33,
airbnbs
or
short-term
rentals,
which
is
about
where
we
are
now
in
terms
of
legal
ones,
and
so
we
voted
to
support
that.
AC
Well,
now
that
the
number
is
440,
Parcels
10
is
44
units
and
the
board
of
directors
felt
that
was
too
high.
So
we
voted
to
support
the
pack
number
at
five
percent,
which
is
which
is
22,
and
we
are
already
above
that,
and
those
that
are
currently
operating
will
stay
operating
anyway.
So
all
those
numbers
none
of
those
numbers
change
it's
what
we
support
the
five
percent
cap
or
the
cap
for
districts,
because
that
one
not
city-wide,
because
that
will
prevent
concentration
of
those
numbers
in
our
district,
the
park
district.
AC
You
know
we
don't
want
a
five
percent
cap,
city-wide
and
90
of
those
numbers
are
in
downtown
district.
In
the
park
district,
another
thing
I'd
like
to
bring
up
just
very
quickly
is
my
understanding
that
Mr
Pruitt's
department
does
not
have
an
Avenue
for
handling
out
of
town
owners
who
are
in
violation
I.
He
has
Avenues
to
deal
with
in
town,
local
ownership
and
this,
and
that
and
I
can't
really
speak
to
that.
AC
It's
something
we
had
in
a
conversation
once
as
I
do
recall
him
saying
that
it
was
difficult
for
him
to
deal
with
violators
who
are
out
of
town
owners
and
I.
Believe
that
oh
and
one
more
thing
a
few
neighbors
have
brought
up.
If
we
could
ask
the
question
there
could
be
a
stop
or
moratorium
put
on
new
licenses
new
applications
for
Airbnb
licenses
until
this
proposed
amendment
has
been
settled.
AC
AA
O
O
AD
B
AD
There
are
bylaws
I
want
to
read
the
bylaw,
the
very
first
one
and
the
purpose
of
the
organization,
as
stated
in
our
bylaws,
is
to
help
Preserve,
protect
and
enhance
the
historical
status
and
significance
of
the
district
and
for
the
protection
of
the
rights
of
the
property
owners
and
the
values
of
their
property.
And
this
does
apply
to
what
we're
talking
about
tonight.
AD
B
AD
F
Q
Name
is
Frank
Carpenter
and
I
live
at
738.
Broadway
I
did
want
to
just
say
that
if
we're
having
a
hard
time
figuring
out
how
to
apply
a
percentage
cap,
there
are
cities
that
have
established
a
rule
that
only
home
owner
occupied
Parcels
can
be
made
Airbnb.
That
was,
the
initial
concept
of
Airbnb
was
for
people
to
be
able
to
rent
out
rooms
in
their
homes.
People
who
needed
to
supplement
their
income
in
order
to
keep
their
homes
or
people
who
enjoyed
hosting
people
in
the
community.
Q
I
love
hosting
people
I,
don't
really
want
them
under
my
roof,
necessarily
but
I
love
showing
people
around
our
city,
I'm,
proud
of
our
city
and
what
it's
accomplished,
and
what?
What
many
of
you
have
participated
in
accomplishing
for
this
city?
But
I
don't
want
to
share
my
house
or
my
home
and
I'm
I'm,
getting
to
the
point
where
I'm
I'm
not
enjoying
chairing
my
neighborhood,
that
much
it
just
is
becoming
overwhelming
I
would
given
the
fact
that
we
apparently
already
have
50
short-term
vacation
rentals
in
our
neighborhood.
Q
AC
W
O
W
B
P
Either
I
I
think
there's
some
things:
I'm,
okay,
with
with
some
of
the
residents,
concern
in
areas,
okay,
but
then
there's
some
still
some
question
marks
and
we
talked
about
a
few
things
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we're
going
to
get
this
thing
ironed
out
tonight
or
unless
we
just
vote
on
what's
on
the
table
and
that's
not
what
I'm
hearing
from
everybody
there's
some
different
aspects,
so
I
mean
the
idea
of
the
moratorium.
That's
a
good
idea
because
you
just
stop.
Let's
just
stop
and
figure
this
thing
out
and
get
all
these
things.
P
We
talked
about
come
back
with
something
solid
and
address
all
these
issues
versus
piecemeal
in
it.
That
might
be
a
better
approach,
but
it
stops
everything
where
it
is
right
now.
I
guess
you
could
delay
it
on
first
reading
again,
but
you
know
you
continue
and
continue
until
we
get
some
of
these
things.
Iron
I've
heard
a
lot
of
stuff
here
tonight,
there's
a
lot
of
thoughts.
P
You
know
and
it
if
we
come
back
next
week
and
it's
on
second
reading,
you
know
we're
not
addressing
any
of
the
things
that
that
that's
been
a
concern
that
we're
talking
about
so
and
we
may
in
some
areas
and
may
not
in
some
other
areas,
so
I
mean
I
I.
You
know,
that's
I,
think
that's
the
idea
of
the
the
moratorium
I
mean
you
could
continue
it
on
first
reading
and
until
you
get
that
worked
out,
but
I
think
what
I
hear
people
is
they
don't
want.
L
B
A
moratorium
but
to
ask
a
question,
though:
if
we,
if
it
just
was
delayed,
you
could
have
not
only
those
15
but
five
or
six
others
go
start
that
process
before
we
get
to
that
before
we
get
it.
We're
we're
worked
out
and
I
think
that
the
the
challenge
there
is
if
it
ends
up
at
five
percent
you're
already
over
the
five
percent
and
you've
had
those
additional
15
and
three
or
four
more
now,
you've
got
all
these
folks
grandfathered
in
I
I'm,
not
the
attorney
I
would
think.
F
B
F
H
L
O
L
B
X
F
AE
P
You
know
Mr
manager,
you
talked
about
those
15
people,
I
mean
the
question
was
asked
too.
Here's
another
reason
that
one
of
the
thoughts
in
all
this
that
the
process
needs
to
I
think
needs
to
be
cleaned
up
too.
I
think
that
question
was
asked
we're
not
sure
those
15
people
are
but
we've
somebody
does,
but
then
that
process
needs
to
be
cleaned
up
in
itself.
So
it's
even
more
the
reason
to
try
to
to
fix
all
this
at
you
know
it's
better
to
fix
it
all
at
once
than
to
peace,
Millet
together.
H
I
think
that
Ryan
wanted
this
to
come
together
so
that
he
could
lay
out
his
plan
on
how
to
go
after
those
those
15.,
but
would
we
have
to
instead
of
doing
a
moratorium
and
having
to
come
back
with
the
first
and
second
reading?
Couldn't
we
amend
this
to
change
the
you
know,
five
percent
to
the
number
and
then,
by
the
time
we
come
back
for
for
this
to
vote
on
this.
H
F
F
S
Waiting
to
make
a
presentation
to
the
council
I
also
recognize
that
there
are
a
number
of
people
here,
including
some
of
us
around
this
table
that
want
to
make
sure
that
when
we
vote
on
this,
and
when
we
adopt
this
ordinance,
it
is
the
it's
something
that
we
can
live
with,
that
we
can
enforce
that.
Our
neighbors
can
live
with
and
I
I
think
that
we
need
to
make
hay
slowly.
S
If
you
will
on
this
issue
and
to
that
end,
once
this
motion
is
resolved
around
the
table,
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
that
the
work
session
on
next
Tuesday
be
changed
to
a
business
meeting
so
that
we
can
handle
a
number
of
these
issues
that
are
here.
I
I
also
would
recommend
if
the
city
manager
would
entertain
this.
There
are
I
think
five
or
six
presentations
that
are
on
your
agenda
to
be
presented
to
us
tonight.
S
Those
can
be
presented
next
Tuesday
Morning
in
a
business
session
or
whatever
I
I'm,
just
trying
to
be
cognizant
of
the
time
that
we've
asked
these
citizens
to
be
here.
I
want
to
get
through
as
much
of
the
business
as
we
can,
but
I
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
be
very
careful
with
this
ordinance
that
we
get
it
right
and
that
we
do
what
we
need
to
do,
and
so,
as
I
said
once
the
motion
that's
on
the
table
is
resolved.
F
B
B
B
S
Mr
Mayor
I
recognize
a
couple
of
people
in
the
audience
who
are
here
for
the
reports
that
Mr
hugely
has
on
his
agenda
and
I
would
ask
that
someone
on
Mr
hughley's
staff,
that's
sitting
back
there.
You
know
check
with
these
folks
and
see
if
they
want
to
come
back
next
week
and
make
their
presentation
I
I.
Just
don't
want
them
to
sit
here
or
another
45
minutes
or
an
hour
before.
B
F
F
B
B
K
B
B
K
F
B
R
Name,
my
name
is
Chance
Chancellor
732,
Broadway,
Columbus,
Georgia
31901
I,
personally,
don't
have
any
reservations
on
a
phone
number
of
the
property
on
the
property
door.
This
is
a
commercial
establishment.
It's
just
taking
advantage
of
our
zoning
laws.
All
businesses
have
their
operating
hours,
their
phone
number
on
their
door
and
on
the
internet
as
well.
I,
don't
see
why
these
most
of
these
places
are
businesses
anyway.
They
should
have
to
do
the
same
to
accountable
Council
on
the
codeless
point
about
going
up
on
numbers
or
down
on
numbers.
R
R
R
That's
what
the
people
here
in
the
audience
are
here
to
support,
knowing
the
number
that
five
percent
would
be,
and
so,
as
we
sit
there,
and
if
we
translate
five
percent
over
into
a
fixed
number,
let's
make
sure
it
represents
that
five
percent,
because
that's
what
we
all
want
I
do
know.
There
was
some
hesitation
on
making
it
a
fixed
number,
because
Parcels
can
be
later
subdivided
or
there's
issues
with
that.
R
So
there
was
some
methods
for
The
Madness
of
making
it
a
percentage
that
also
for
equal
protection
scales
across
neighborhoods
a
lot
better,
but
we
need
the
the
Fidelity
of
five
percent.
We
don't
need
ten
percent.
Ten
percent
in
our
neighborhood
of
how
many
commercial
places
already
exist
will
cause
too
much
clumping
as
people
Clump
in
our
area.
So
I
don't
want
to
turn
to
my
left
and
my
right
and
across
the
street
and
they're
all
airbnbs
and
but
they're
under
five
five
percent,
so
I
mean
they're
they're
we're
under
ten
percent.
R
Five
percent
I
think
will
fix
that
problem.
When
the
city
appraiser
spoke
at
Pac
on
airbnbs,
she
spoke
to
how
it
reduces
City's.
Revenue
airbnbs
are
poisoned
to
City
Revenue,
because
people
leave
the
neighborhoods.
They
reduce
the
value
of
the
property.
The
airbnbs
are
not
paying
for
the
furniture
that
they
should
be
taxed
on
in
this
inside
their
property
and
their
facilities.
They're
not
paying
those
taxes,
so
they're
they're
not
keeping
up
their
end
of
the
bargain.
R
For
what
we're
trying
to
sit
here
and
Grant
them
permission
in
our
city
to
operate,
and
so
I
think.
That's
really
all
I
have
to
say
again
this
just
to
say
five
percent
doesn't
count
owner
occupied,
you've
heard
that
and
that's
what
I'm
going
to
stressed
this
is
not
going
after
Mom
and
Pop
operators.
This
is
going
after
llc's
out
of
town
llc's
that
come
in
where
our
real
estate's
cheap.
R
They
buy
up
a
bunch
of
our
houses
where
suddenly
our
citizens
can't
afford
to
live,
there
can't
afford
to
raise
children
there,
and
then
they
ship
all
of
that
money.
That
should
stay
in
our
city
with
people
that
work
in
our
city
that
pay
taxes
that
eat
in
our
city
and
they
just
ship
it
out
of
state
or
out
of
the
city.
R
W
Kim
is
it
possible
if
we
amend
the
ordinance
right
now
to
reflect
35
airbnbs
in
the
downtown
historic
district
and
then
20,
because
there's
20
legally
operating
right
in
in
St
Elmo
and
then
vote
on
it
next
week
at
least
then
it
accelerates
the
stopping
by
at
least
three
weeks
and
then
come
back
and
amend
the
amendment
to
the
ordinance.
Does
that
make
sense
so.
G
W
Make
an
amendment
right
now
to
to
have
the
airbnbs
at
35
and
20,
as
noted
in
the
PowerPoint,
and
then
vote
on
it
next
week,
and
then
I
mean
I'm
impressed
if
illegally
illegally
operating
Airbnb
we'll
pull
that
together
and
be
inspected
within
a
week.
And
then
we
pass
it
we
as
a
second
reading
next
week.
It
stops
the
bleeding
until
we
can
figure
out
the
rest.
W
Right
so
30,
35
I,
think
in
the
PowerPoint
I
think
it
said:
35
right,
35,
legally
operating
airbnbs
right
now
in
the
downtown
district,
then
there's
15
illegally,
so
I'm
talking
about
just
the
legal
airbnbs
that
are
going
on
right
now
and
the
20
that
are
in
St
Elmo
if
we
amend
the
ordinance
right
now
to
and
then
push
it
to
Second
reading
and
vote
on
it
next
week.
If
we
follow
what
Ryan
said
on
their
inspection
process,
then
that
would
be
a
very
fast
inspection
process
for
15
airbnbs,
which
I
don't
know
if
15.
O
W
Can
be
approved
within
a
week,
no
offense
Ryan,
and
then
that
way
we
can
vote
on
it
next
week.
We
can
stop
the
bleeding
until
we
can
figure
out
the
rest
of
the
ordinance
and
then
we
can
come
back
and
talk
about
the
stickers
on
the
doors
and
the
phone
numbers
and
the
actual
numbers.
But
then
at
least
it
just
curbs
everything.
No
one
can
it's
basically
taking
the
moratorium
and
bumping
it
up.
F
AA
S
W
W
H
B
S
S
X
S
P
You
prefer
the
staff
to
work
on
this
and
to
get
it
together,
which
is
I'm
on
the
same
page
with
you,
I,
think,
adding
the
add
in
the
limits
on
the
rooms
is,
is
what's
confusing
this
right
now
with
councilor
kogel,
originally
without
the
number
of
occupancy
in
the
rooms.
What
it
was
doing
is
is
moving
really
Expediting
the
process
of
limiting
everything
a
week
earlier.
That's
all
we!
That's
all
we're
trying
to
do.
I
think
what
councilor
Thomas
is
saying:
she's,
preferring
you're,
preferring
them
to
complete
the
ordinance
and
then
bring
us
something.
P
F
B
B
T
H
B
F
B
O
J
B
G
B
AA
Is
to
upgrade
a
couple
of
jifa
loans
we
have
because
material
and
construction
costs
have
gone
up
so
much
and
also
we've.
One
of
our
permit
requirements
on
our
CSO
project
is
requiring
additional
infrastructure
for
so
that's
the
essence
of
why
we
need
these
loans
increase
so
appreciate.
You
bumping
us
up
a
little
bit
here.
B
B
H
O
H
AA
F
B
O
Z
F
F
AF
F
AF
AF
It's
the
home
of
Elizabeth
Canty,
for
which
Elizabeth
candy
Holmes
namesake,
belongs
to
I've,
been
in
contact
with
Philip
Thayer
of
their
construction
company
to
try
to
stabilize
the
porch,
but
the
cost
estimate
to
do
this
is
prohibitive
for
the
owner
and
therefore,
an
alternate
preservation
is
being
sought
through
the
historic
Columbus
Foundation
Elizabeth
Barker.
The
director
is
assisting
in
this
effort.
While
this
has
been
an
arduous
fat
process,
arduous
process
I
pray
that
a
solution
will
be
had
thus
protecting
an
integral
piece
of
the
city's
history.
B
Okay,
any
questions
of
counsel,
now
I
will
say
on
the
first
one
I
wanted
I
wonder
if
it's
possible
to
work
administratively
with
Ryan,
since
it
was
60
days
and
it's
not
likely
that
it'll
be
through
the
second
reading
and
then
be
scheduled
for
demolition
in
60
days.
And
that
way,
if
you
can
work
something
out
with
with
watching
it.
B
Z
The
the
conversation
was
that
the
the
owners
at
that
time
were
actually
interested
in
demolishing
the
house
in
2017
they
took
a
petition
to
Bihar
and
that
petition
was
denied
and
at
that
time
inspections
and
codes,
kind
of
dropped,
the
issue
and
then
in
2020
the
ownership
was
changed
to
the
current
LLC
and
again,
with
the
renewed
focus
on
dilapidated
properties
and
and
all
that
we
restarted
the
process.
Mailed
out
the
letters
went
through
the
whole.
Z
Z
And
then
615
8th
Street,
we
did
have
a
property
maintenance
case
on
that
piece
of
property.
You
know,
Property
Maintenance
cases
are
what
we
call
the
laminated
properties
that
haven't
reached
demolition
worthy.
So
we
went
through
that
we
did
go
to
Bihar.
It
was
discussed
at
that
time.
However,
the
property
has
continued
to
deteriorate.
The
roof
has
completely
collapsed
inside
it's
similar
to
600,
8th
Street.
That
was
right
across
the
street
that
we
tore
down
earlier
or
last
year.
It's
just
a
brickshell
building.
Z
AF
AF
Historic
Columbus
Foundation
to
try
to
save
the
building
because
of
its
historical
significance.
If
she
felt
that
there
was
a
good
possibility
that
there
might
be
a
match
out
there,
that
someone
would
be
interested
in
taking
it
and
rehabilitating
it
and
keeping
it
because
of
its
historical
value.
If
that
is
not
the
case,
and
she
cannot
assist
in
that
manner,
then,
of
course
we
would
be.
You
know
we'll
proceed
with
the
Demolition
on
the
other
piece
of
property.
That
piece
of
property
is
not
like
the
piece
of
property
that
was
demolished
by
the
city.
AF
It
sits
on
private
property,
it's
completely
enclosed,
it's
barred
up
and
I
can
show
you
pictures
of
that
in
more
detail.
Yes,
it
has
a
frame
around
it.
We
intentionally
were
allowing
the
roof
to
collapse
inside
it's
not
collapsing
outside
the
building.
It's
collapsing
inside
the
building,
just
to
save
us
on
costs
in
tearing
it
down
and
replacing
it.
AF
So
once
that
happened
and
it's
it's
there
now
we
would
have
it
removed
and
a
roof
placed
on
it,
but
it's
entirely
enclosed
by
a
fence
around
it,
so
that
it's
not
a
nuisance
to
the
public
of
any
sort
in
every
door.
Every
all
the
doors
around
it
are
secured
and
there's
a
fence
around
it.
So
and
again,
I
did
not
understand
anything
any
further
than
when
I
left
at
that
time
and
I
have
a
note
that
I
attached
to
it
that
the
citation
was
pulled.
H
S
S
If
we
were
to
give
you
a
60-day
delay
on
this,
do
you
think
that
your
conversations
with
the
historic
Columbus
and
tell
them
I've
got
a
60-day
delay
that
I've
got
to
know
something
and
I've
got
to
get
back
to
them
or
they're,
going
to
put
it
back
on
a
demolition
list?
Would
that
would
that
help
with
that?
You
know:
I,
don't
want
us
to
tear
this
place
down.
S
AF
O
AF
S
Z
You
know
it
is
council's
decision
whether
or
not
to
to
delay
it.
You
know
certainly
we'll
we'll
work
with
Miss
Hub
and
you
know
check
in,
and
you
know
see
how
the
progress
is
going
see.
You
know
what
kind
of
agreements
contracts
with
contractors
and
those
types
of
things
to
you
know
ensure
that
there's
a
there
is
some
steady
progress.
Z
S
P
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
mind
the
time
frame
working
within
the
time
frame,
but
in
an
effort
to
remain
fair.
Just
an
equal
I've
been
very
vocal
with
many
people
that
have
stood
at
the
podium
about
this.
Very
this
very
nature
of
what
we're
dealing
with
here
and
I
would
have
to
say
that
we
we
have
a
lot.
We
kind
of
give
the
time
frame,
and
we
usually
give
the
city
manager
the
directive
to
manage
these
based
on
trying
to
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
and
he's
been
Fair
he's
been
I.
P
Think
he's
been
just
across
the
board
with
everybody
that's
come
through,
and
if
there
is
a
a
true
effort
to
try
to
make
this
work
and
it
can
work,
then
he'll
do
everything
within
his
power
to
do
it.
I
think
we
ought
to
do
it
the
same
way
that
we've
done
all
the
other
requests
that
we've
granted
and
I
think
usually,
as
with
the
city
manager,
taking
a
look
at
it
and
managing
managing
it
as
we
go.
B
T
B
B
B
R
R
I'll
also
need
the
Mooney
code
pulled
up
if
you
can
on
there.
So
this
is
a
picture
of
the
property.
The
porter
Auditorium
that
was
dimashed
last
year
in
the
Liberty
District
I
spoke
here.
Trying
to
preserve
it.
I
was
unsuccessful.
Councilman,
okay,
voted
voted
to
demo.
It
so
I'm
here
today,
basically
for
the
same
purpose,
that
demolishing
historic
properties
and
designated
historic
districts
is
not
an
appropriate
use
of
demolition.
It's
not
we're
sitting
here.
R
Both
these
properties
are
located
in.
What's
left
of
the
historic
Liberty
District,
every
property
that
is
demolished
weakens
not
just
the
Liberty
District,
but
it
weakens
all
of
our
historic
districts.
It
sets
the
precedent
you
can
go
in
and
any
property
can
be
demolished.
Suddenly,
you've
got
clean
dirt
that
you
can
then
take
out
of
his
teeth,
free
of
protections
and
do
whatever
you
want
with
it,
and
that's
not
appropriate.
R
So
the
property
should
not
be
demolished,
it
needs
to
be
preserved
and
protected,
and
we
need
to
design
a
system
that
encourages
land
owners
and
assist
them
in
bringing
into
compliance
right
now.
Our
incentive
is
a
hundred
percent
to
let
these
properties
fall
into
disrepair
because
it
doesn't
matter
the
city
will
come
wrong.
The
city
will
demolish
it,
a
taxpayer
expense.
The
city
will
finance
the
destruction
of
our
own
City's
history,
our
history
and
our
taxpayers.
R
We
get
the
bill
to
pay
for
it
and
I
know
it
goes
on
a
lien
and
that
eventually
the
property
has
to
be
cleared
of
the
lien,
but
these
people,
the
porterhouse
that
was
out
of
town
LLC.
We
couldn't
touch
they,
they
sat
there
and
they
just
ate
the
cost.
They
just
ate
the
cost
of
it
going.
They
didn't
have
to
come
out
pocket.
They
didn't
have
to
be
a
construction
load.
It's
the
system
right
now
is
designed
to
let
these
properties
fail
into
this
repair.
R
Luckily,
we
have
an
owner
here
that
wants
to
save
this
property.
Let's
give
them
the
chance.
Let's
take
it
off
the
demolition
list,
let's
see
so
if
you
pull
up
money
code,
9.3.16
the
details,
the
maintenance
of
historic
property,
the
city
currently
has
the
power
to
monitor
City
properties
and
then,
through
mini
code,
12.5.4,
can
enforce
fines
on
non-compliant
properties.
Why
is
the
city
this
was
170?
These
two
properties
represented
what
seventy
thousand
dollars.
Why
are
we
paying
that
out
of
the
city
budget?
R
Why
do
we
have
a
cash
outlay
when
our
schools
are
failing?
We
are.
We
can't
pay
our
police
when,
instead,
we
can
generate
Revenue
off
of
these
properties
to
encourage
by
firing
them
up
to
a
thousand
dollars
per
day,
to
generate
revenue
for
our
city
to
bring
and
encourage
everyone
to
bring
these
into
compliance.
R
I'm,
not
encouraging
us
to
go
and
start
finding
this
half
a
thousand
dollars
a
day,
I'm
saying
that
we
have
that
power
for
the
people
that
do
not
want
to
bring
this
property
into
compliance
when
we
don't
have
to
sit
here
and
eat
the
cost
of
a
lien
for
5
10
20
years
until
it's
sold.
The
way
that
we're
handling
demolishing
historic
properties
does
not
make
sense,
because
right
now
a
homeowner
will
just
a
property
owner
will
just
let
it
fall,
there's
no
incentive
to
actually
preserve
it.
So,
finally,
we
must
strengthen
Behar.
R
R
F
P
I'm,
just
the
city
manager,
that's
a
good
question,
because
I
mean
I
would
hope
that
you
have
facilitate
it,
that
we
can
get
it
to
a
point
that
it
can
be
preserved.
But
that's
going
to
take
capital
I
mean
somebody's
going
to
have
to
come
in
either
be
a
partner
or
the
property
owner
is
going
to
have
to
figure
out
how
to
make
it
happen.
L
P
P
AF
Can
I
ask
for
or
provide
some
additional
information
about
the
60
days?
The
60
days
was
to
give
Elizabeth
Walker
time
enough
to
locate
someone
that
would
be
interested
in
rehabilitating
it,
I'm
sure
that
everything
couldn't
be
done
in
that
in
that
amount
of
time,
but
we
would
communicate
with
Ryan
to
let
him
know
that.
Yes,
there
is
an
interested
person
here
is
the
individual
statement
saying
that
they
are
interested
in
it.
AF
This
is
the
plan
of
action
for
it.
This
is
the
timeline
to
try
to
make
things
happen.
That
was
the
intent
behind
the
60
days.
There's
no
way
that
that
building
could
be
her
rehabilitated
in
60
days.
First,
we
have
to
find
the
person
and
that's
what
she
was
looking
for
was
to
identify
what
resource
it
would
be.
That
would
take
it
on
and
it
could
possibly
be
that
the
building
is
relocated
elsewhere,
that's
a
start,
but
the
initial
intent
is
to
say
there
is
action
being
taken
to
preserve
the
structure.
P
AF
P
As
a
direction
you're
going
I
mean
it's
not
60
days
to
sit
and
just
try
to
figure
it
out,
and
my
little
I
don't
understand
what
you're
saying
because
I've
been
part
of
me
says.
You
just
told
me
that
that
you,
you
want
the
historic
district
to
do
it
all
I,
don't
know
if
you
still
have
a
part
in
it
or
not.
Is
your
intent
to
give
it
to
the
historic
district?
Absolutely.
P
AF
AF
And
that's
basically
what
I'm
saying
if
they
can't
identify
someone
that's
interested
in
doing
this,
then
we
proceed
with
the
Demolition,
but
if
within
60
days
they
can
identify
an
entity,
that's
interested
in
taking
on
this
project
to
preserve
it
absolutely
my
whole.
Our
whole
intent
is
to
preserve
the
the
structure
because
of
his
historical
significance.
Okay,
so
within
60
days,
if
we
don't
have
a
plan
that
identifies
what
you
want
that
says
to
Pruitt,
yes,
we
are
making
an
effort
to
preserve
it.
It
is
not
standing
still
doing
nothing.
AF
P
That's
that
would
be
consistent
with
how
we've
dealt
with
anybody.
That's
been
in
your
position,
that's
come
up
to
the
podium
in
the
past
and
you
know,
as
long
as
I've
been
on
Council,
that's
pretty
much
how
we
band
that
we've,
given
everybody
the
opportunity-
and
it
does
I
mean
it
really
takes
it.
It
takes
somebody
the
willingness
and
it
takes
Capital
it.
It
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
preserving
these
properties
and.
W
W
AD
L
I
just
want
to
be
clear,
you
know,
with
with
staff
when
we
say
that
we're
too
quick
and
I
know
that
we
said
it.
It
was
said
about
the
porter
Bill,
the
building,
a
Section
8
and
in
this.
But
when
you
go,
how
long
have
you
been
dealing
with
this
building
and
then
how
long
did
you
deal
with
the
building
at
Sixth
and
eighth.
Z
L
2013.
so
I,
don't
know
how
you
know.
What's
too
quick,
but
you
know,
typically
it
takes
years
to
get
to
the
point
that
Quran
is
standing
before
the
city
council.
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
this
wasn't
something
that
we
worked
on
for
six
months.
It's
something
that
in
it
on
this
one
I,
actually
17
I,
think
it
actually
had
been
worked
on
since
2015.,
and
then
it
may
have
changed
hands
or
something,
and
then
with
a
new
owner.
It
started
in
2017.
Z
B
F
F
Z
Z
F
Okay,
next
item:
we
did
have
a
judge
chief
judge
Smith
here
earlier,
he
may
have
had
to
leave
the
finance
director
and
the
HR
Director
have
been
involved
in
this
item
would
establish
a
career
ladder
for
official
superior
court.
Reporters
bump
up
the
transcript
supplement
per
year
from
ten
thousand
to
fifteen
thousand
when
authorized
by
a
judge,
and
it
sets
up
a
three-tier
career
ladder
and
it's
recommended
by
hrn
has
been
going
to
Ms
Hollowell,
looked
at
by
the
pay
plan.
F
AG
Right
good
afternoon
Council,
this
particular
ordinance
that
has
to
do
with
a
2014
ordinance,
a
2014
ordinance
related
to
the
official
court
reporters
for
Superior
Court.
This
was
an
ordinance
that
was
specific
to
the
UGA
pay
plan
at
that
time.
So
now
that
the
new
pay
plan
has
been
adopted,
we
amended
this
particular
that
2014
ordinance
to
comply
with
the
new
pay
plan
and
what
it
essentially
does
in
that
particular
ordinance.
It
did
a
couple
of
things.
One
of
them
had
specifically
to
do
with
the
court
reporters
pay
at
that
time.
AG
AG
For
example,
the
court
reported
the
official
court
reporter
was
a
pay
grade,
21
they
had
to
serve
for
10
years
and
after
10
years
they
could
be
moved
up
to
a
step
J
that
would
increase
their
salaries
while
they
did
continue
to
receive
any
colas
that
other
city
employees
would
receive
this
particular
ordinance.
It
amends
that
it
makes
it
easier
for
those
court
reporters
it's
more
of
a
retention
to
for
them.
AG
It
allows
three
steps:
three
career
ladders
there
starting
out
as
pay
grade
126
and
then
after
five
years
as
an
official
court
reporter,
they
move
up
the
next,
the
latitude
127
and
then
finally,
after
10
years
of
service,
they
move
up
to
128..
So
that's
the
amendment
for
this
particular
ordinance.
The
the
second
part
in
this
particular
ordinance
has
to
do
with
the
judicial
Council
of
Georgia,
as
it
relates
to
policies
and
fees
for
court
reporting.
Services,
the
per
paid
for
criminal
cases
has
increased
from
3.78
cents
to
six
dollars
per
page.
AG
Now
this
increase
happened
in
2015.
However,
there
was
no
adjustment
to
the
ten
thousand
dollar
that
was
authorized
as
a
transcript
charge.
So
this
has
been
recommended
to
be
adjusted
recognizing
this
increase
of
the
criminal
cases,
the
per
page
rate.
This
is
so
it's
being
recommended
for
that
to
be
moved
to
fifteen
thousand
annually.
F
B
O
F
Our
last
last
item
mayor
is
the
resolution
passed
around
the
table
revised
even
tonight,
and
Ms
Huff
has
involved
The
Tax
Commissioner's
Office.
This
would.
This
is
a
loud
under
state
law.
It
delegates
the
authority
to
waive
penalties
and
interest
on
a
tax.
Installment
Council
can
delegate
that
authority
to
the
tax
commissioner,
and
this
would
do
that
for
a
second
installments
for
calendar
year.
2022.
I.
J
F
B
Well,
I'll,
second,
that
one,
even
though
I
don't
get
to
vote
all
right,
we'll
move
to
the
public
agenda
and
I
can't
thank
those
that
are
appearing
enough
for
sitting
through,
what's
been
a
fairly
long
meeting,
we'll
start
with
Mr
Jack
rosenhammer
regarding
the
state
of
hockey
in
Columbus
Jack
thanks
for
waiting
around
because
that's
a
good
story.
I
know
you
got
to
tell
yes.
B
AH
Sir,
my
name
is
Jack
rosenheimer
I
live
at
1902,
13th
Street
and
councilman
house
statistic
three,
giving
mayor
Henderson
and
City
Council
Members.
Exactly
one
year
ago,
tomorrow,
I
came
to
this
chamber
with
tears
in
my
eyes
and
fire
in
my
heart
begging,
all
of
you
to
come
with
a
plan
to
reopen
the
Columbus
ice
rink.
AH
It
has
been
used
as
a
courthouse
for
some
12
months
up
to
that
point
and
with
what
seemed
like
no
end
in
sight,
as
some
of
you
may
know,
the
Columbus
ice
rink
reopened
to
public
use
in
April,
2022
and
quite
a
bit
has
changed
since
then.
Now
that
we
have
a
flourishing
hockey
and
skating
community
that
grows
each
and
every
week,
but
I
also
managed
to
grow
the
best
hand
of
our
mustache
to
the
side
of
the
Chattahoochee.
AH
Well,
I
can
enfrall
you
with
Tales
of
Epic
mustache
Adventures
after
this
meeting
I
like
to
use
my
short
five
minutes
to
inform
you
all
about
the
great
and
incredible
programs
that
call
the
Columbus
ice
rink
home.
The
Genesis
of
my
speech
today
is
from
a
10-minute
conversation.
I
have
with
mayor
Henderson
at
a
business
pitch
competition
at
CSU
back
in
November,
after
regaling
him
with
all
the
programs
and
things
going
out
the
rink.
He
asked
me
a
simple
question:
why
don't
we
promote
this
more
well
folks?
AH
Here,
I
am
ready
to
tell
you
about
all
the
awesome
things
that
happen
at
ice
rink
and
no.
It
is
not
about
an
Airbnb
or
demolition
of
buildings.
The
flagship
program,
the
largest
user
of
ice
in
the
ice
rink,
the
Columbus
Hockey
Association,
boasts
grow,
boasts
growing
youth
and
Adult
Hockey
programs.
Currently
129
adults
and
140
youth
players
hit
the
ice
each
week
to
enjoy
the
game.
They
love
the
Cha's,
learn
to
play
program,
a
program
that
introduces
children
ages,
5
to
12
to
the
world's
coolest
sport
swell
to
87
participants.
AH
This
year
with
each
of
his
three
semesters
numbers
growing
greater
than
the
previous,
the
cha
led
by
Mr
Oren
and
Miss
Jessica
hergott
continues
to
provide
opportunities
for
children
and
adults
to
play
hockey,
both
in
Columbus
and
around
the
country.
Our
travel
teams
have
and
will
play
this
year
in
Huntsville
Nashville,
Atlanta,
Charlotte,
Raleigh,
Jacksonville
and
even
Indianapolis
Indiana.
AH
Our
youth
program
even
attracts
out
of
town
players
and
their
families
with
hometowns,
like
LaGrange
Auburn
Opelika,
make
in
Pensacola
Birmingham
and
Biloxi
Mississippi
littering
our
rosters.
The
Columbus
ice
rink
is
also
home
of
the
Auburn
University
men's
hockey
team
that
has
played
in
our
rank
since
it
first
opened
in
2011.
the
Tigers
and
members
of
college
hockey
South
and
routinely
play
against
the
likes
of
Alabama
UGA
Tennessee,
another
sec
and
ACC
schools.
Their
head
coach,
former
Columbus
Kottonmouth
Ryan
rutz,
has
grown
the
Auburn
program
into
a
formidable
opponent
in
the
Southern
College
hockey
landscape.
AH
Finally,
the
Fort
Benning
hockey
team
practices
a
few
times
a
week
and
plays
the
annual
infantry
versus
armor
armor
game.
Coming
up
this
February
and
against
the
combined
Columbus
cottonmouths
Legends
team,
the
sports
likes
of
local
Puck
Legends,
including
scoring
Orr
and
herga
Brad
Prefontaine
Marcella
Richard,
Carlisle,
Lewis,
Columbus,
firefighter
Levi
Lind,
and
some
guy
named
Jerome
bashard.
AH
First,
a
new
learn,
Escape
program
operated
by
Kelly
Desjardins
started
in
the
spring
this
last
year,
through
a
hard
work
and
dedication
over
200
adults
and
children
have
learned
the
life
skill
of
ice
skating,
something
they
can
take
with
them
for
the
rest
of
their
lives,
even
if
they
don't
wind
up
playing
hockey
or
figure
skating.
After
that,
Miss
dejardin
also
managed
the
on
Ice
program
for
the
short-lived
Urban
learn
Escape
program,
a
city
initiative
aimed
at
providing
low-income
children
the
opportunity
to
learn
how
to
ice
skate
at
no
cost
to
them
or
their
families.
AH
A
program
we
would
love
to
re-energize,
so
more
underrepresented
children
can
hit
the
ice.
The
second
new
program
to
join
the
ice
rink
family
is
the
Chattahoochee
Valley
Warriors
an
adult
hockey
program
with
the
mission
of
educating
training
and
encouraging
individuals
who
have
incurred
physical
disabilities
in
their
service
to
their
country
to
participate
in
the
sport
in
an
environment
that
has
adapted
to
their
ability
level.
AH
Market
mayor,
Henderson,
I,
ask
you:
did
you
even
imagine
that'd
be
possible
some
156
months
ago,
when
you
voted
to
build
a
Columbus
ice
rink
in
closing
I'm,
proud
to
say
that
the
state
of
hockey
and
ice
skating
in
Columbus
are
strong
and
I
hope
I
brought
your
attention
to
all
the
incredible
programs
that
call
the
Columbus
ice
cream
home.
Thank.
B
And-
and
you
know,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
passion.
When
you
came
here
during
covet,
it
was
clear
that
you
were
here
for
the
kids
and
the
folks
that
want
to
play
hockey.
So
we
we
thank
you
for
directing
that
all
into
the
the
ice
rink
and
the
skate
ring
since
that
time,
because
it's
I
mean
I
didn't
know
that
we
had
the
Auburn
Women's
Club
hockey
team
here
as
as
their
home
ice.
So
it's
it's
been
pretty
pretty
good
councilor
kogel.
W
Hey
Jack,
thanks
for
waiting
for
so
long
I
I
had
the
privilege
of
my
daughter,
being
one
of
the
51
that
took
advantage
of
the
free
learn
to
skate
and
learn
to
play.
Hockey
I
did
trick
her
into
attending
that
it
was
just
going
to
be
alert
to
skate
and
not
hockey,
but
we
went
to
the
hockey
game
this
weekend
and
she
has
hockey
sticks
now
in
her
room
and.
G
W
Posters
everywhere
and
that's
all
she
that's
all.
She
wants
to
talk
about
so
you're,
making
a
profound
impact
in
our
community
and
and
just
getting
kids
active
and
giving
them
a
different
option.
Other
than
playing
soccer
baseball,
which
are
all
great
but
extending
the
sports
to
a
different,
a
completely
different
community
of
Youth,
is,
is
very
important.
So
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
over
at
the
Civic
Center
and
as
well
as
the
river
dragons
as
well.
U
Huff
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
how
you
do
in
the
community
here
since
we
made
contact
in
the
beginning.
You
have
been
really
tone
just
tone
deaf
as
far
as
outside
noises
and
staying
focused
on
your
mission,
so
I'll
run
into
you
here
and
Civic
Center
different
places,
and
you
tell
me
all
the
time
you
know
this
is
going
to
get
bigger
and
bigger
and
bigger.
So
thank
you
so
much
and
staying
focused
and,
however,
we
can
help
you
stay.
B
O
AH
Revived
because
that's
something
I
think
we
have
the
unique
ability
to
do
here
in
Columbus,
because
traditionally
people
that
played
hockey
looked
like
me
and
they
come
from
my
background
number
of
middle
class
white
boy.
Well,
that's
not
how
our
demographics
work
here
in
Columbus,
like
girls,
can
play
hockey.
Boys
can
figure,
skate
the
highest
paid
profession,
women's
professional
hockey
players,
a
black
girl
from
Toronto
Canada,
her
brother
played
for
the
river
dragons.
AH
So
you
know
if
we
can
have
people
like
that,
come
down
or
get
that
knowledge
out.
Young
black
girls
here
from
Columbus
Georgia
can
look
them
say
that
could
be
me.
I
could
play
professional
hockey
get
paid
to
do
it
get
paid
if
she
gets
paid
about
I
think
at
90
or
100
000
a
year.
She
lives
off
her
hockey,
salary
and
right
now
it's
all
concentrated
in
New
England,
the
Midwest,
the
Midwest
and
Minnesota
area.
Well,
why
not
Columbus
thank.
AA
B
AE
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
come
before
you
I
appreciate
your
willingness
to
serve
our
community.
My
name
is
Lisa
Potter
and
I
live
at
2523
Riverside
Drive
I
in
2013
purchased
property
in
City,
Village
part
of
the
mill
District.
Now,
where
I've
lived
and
been
a
part
of
the
community
for
over
nine
years,
I've
come
not
only
to
appreciate
the
beautiful
setting
but
to
realize
the
challenges
the
neighborhood
faces.
AE
AE
First
of
all,
the
homelessness
I
showed
six
different
places
on
the
map
of
my
neighborhood,
where
the
first
one
has
burned.
So
it's
no
longer
I
wasn't
able
to
photograph
that
homeless.
Camp
for
has
two
less
hampers.
As
of
last
week,
I
know
they're
doing
a
count
now
on
the
homeless
population
and
I,
once
I
registered
for
this
meeting
the
next
week
people
came,
the
police
came
and
gave
the
two
of
the
people
in
the
homeless
camp
at
the
end
of
my
street,
a
voucher
for
a
home
and
some
information
on
employment.
AE
Issues
with
this
and
the
recent
20
degree
below
I
mean
20
below
20
degrees,
temperature,
the
main
cave
for
three
days
right
in
a
row.
It's
it's
a
scary
thing
to
have
people
that
are
living
unsheltered
in
my
neighborhood.
It's
so
I
I
called
once
again
and
people
offered
once
again,
but
they
remained.
They
are
they're
not
interested
in
what
home
for
good
it's
offered
and
other
people
that
I've
set
that
up
call
to
been
there
to
help
moving
them
off.
Of
my
block
is
to
be
homeless.
AE
AE
AE
B
D
AE
B
B
P
No
I
was
I
was
going
to
say
Miss
pyburn,
just
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
down
and
being
patient,
and
it's
obvious
you
care
about
your
neighborhood.
Your
area
and
I
appreciate
that
so
I
think
the
councilor
Tucker
was
asking
us
some
of
the
things
that
you've
brought
to
our
attention
here.
If
the
city
manager
can
help
address
some
of
those
things
and
I
think
he's
got
one
of
these
sheets,
but
you
may
want
to
the
city
manager.
Usually
you
have
the
staff
kind
of
get
together
and
kind
of
talk
about.
P
If
there's
anything
that
can
be
done,
I
think
that's
what
Miss
Pyburn's
coming
here
to
say.
She's
got
some
concerns
she'd
like
to
try
to
address
some
of
these
things.
If
possible-
and
you
know
she's
ran
out
of
time,
but
she
did
give
us
some
things.
It
looks
like
there's
some
things
on
here
that
yeah
that
can.
L
B
And
that
and
that
section
really
does
need
some.
You
know
regular
attention.
I
know
it's
hard
for
us
to
get
there
on
a
regular
basis,
but
I
mean
that
that's
that
does
seem
to
be
an
area
where
a
lot
of
the
homeless
having
have
encamped
and
when
it
gets
cold.
They
light
fires
and
that's
where
some
of
that
arson
stuff
kicks
up
too,
but
we
we
can.
We
can
try
to
see
if
we
can't
get
an
eye
on
on
what's
going
on,
particularly
with
The
Dumping
but
okay.
B
W
B
O
AI
My
business
did
not
qualify
for
that.
We
were
not
Incorporated
until
November
of
2019,
so
we
were
very
happy
to
see
the
second
round
of
funding
come
out.
If
you
see
on
the
timeline,
we
were
Incorporated,
November,
25th,
I
own
a
franchise,
so
we've
signed
our
franchise
agreement
and
paid
for
it
December
17th
of
2019.,
and
then
we
between
the
franchise
agreement
and
applying
for
our
business
license.
AI
AI
I'm.
One
of
the
businesses
that
got
called
to
Catch-22
I
was
incorporated
before
then,
but
I
didn't
have
the
business
license
by
July
1st
2020
because
of
covid,
as
you
can
see,
I
did
and
I
have
all
the
paperwork
to
talk
or
to
back
it
up.
We
submitted
and
paid
for
our
PSI
alcohol
sign
in
survey
on
March
6th.
Unfortunately,
my
building
is
between
5th
and
6th
Avenue
and
it
was
zoned
LMI
and
you
could
not
have
an
alcohol
license
with
that
zoning.
AI
So
we
had
to
submit
to
a
upt
zoning
I
submitted
the
rezoning
application
on
March
16th
to
be
before
the
pat
committee
on
April
15th.
As
we
know,
March,
18th
or
I
think
it
was
March
20th,
actually,
officially
that
everything
was
shut
down
and
so
at
the
PAC
meeting
held
on
March
18th,
they
postponed
all
meetings,
meaning
my
zoning
got
pushed
back
pushing
all
of
my
licensing
back.
AI
AI
P
Yes,
mayor
I've
had
since
I
know,
Miss
grief
is
here
tonight,
but
I've
had
a
couple.
Others
talk
to
me
about
this
same
subject
and
you
know
I
know,
there's
regulations,
requirements
and
deadlines,
and
things
like
that,
but
you
know
in
in
pondering
this
being
a
business
owner
myself.
When
do
you
really
become
a
business
owner?
When
do
you
really
start
your
business?
And
you
know
this
is
a
pandemic,
something
we've
never
never
ever
have
gone
through
and
and
somebody
trying
to.
P
Trying
to
get
established,
especially
if,
if
you're
a
new
business
owner,
if
this
is
your
first
time
a
young
business
owner
within
our
community,
others
that
may
be
in
similar
situations.
It
does
take
time
to
develop
and
to
get
these
things
going,
and
it
just
seems
to
me
that
there's
there's,
there's
people
out
there
who
didn't
receive
any
help
at
all.
P
They
didn't
receive
any
support
at
all,
but
they
got
caught
in
a
Time,
Warp
they're
victims
of
the
pandemic,
just
like
everybody
else
and
I
I.
Think
it's
somewhat
subjective.
When,
when
we
put
deadlines
on
these
matters
and
and
then
to
tell
a
business
owner,
they
don't
qualify
when
in
reality,
it
takes
time
to
get
your
business
going
and
a
lot
of
that
is
subjective
based
on
what
you
have
to
deal
with
and
I
kind
of
see
this.
In
this
situation,
I've
I've
had
some
others
that
have
come
to
me
mayor.
P
You
and
I
had
a
conversation
on
this
and
you
express
your
the
same
sentiments
and
I.
Just
would
hope
that
we
would
really
look
at
this
a
little
bit
closer
because
I,
you
know
I'm
not
sure
what
the
requirements
are
as
far
as
from
the
state,
but
we've
got
business
owners
out
there
who
started
this
process
and
got
caught
up
in
the
middle
of
this,
and
it's
not
their
fault,
it's
just
not
their
fault,
but
they
had
to
proceed
forward.
They
couldn't
stop.
P
They've
invested
a
lot
of
money,
they
bought
franchises
they've
done
everything
that
they
needed
to
do
and
it's
a
step
in
the
process
and
then
to
get
delayed
depending
on
someone
else's
schedule.
It
just
you
know
and
to
tie
it
to
a
deadline.
Is
you
know,
I'm
I
do
question
that,
and
it
and
I
go
back
to
what
I
said.
When
do
you
really
start
a
business,
so
I
think
that
what
I've
been
hearing
is.
P
There
are
some
business
owners
in
our
community
that
got
caught
in
this
and
they
were
unable
to
get
any
support
at
all.
None
at
all
and
we
opened
the
I
guess
the
opportunity
with
some
grants
that
came
out
I
guess
we
would
call
them
grants
or
support
money
that
came
in
and
we
chose
to
make
that
decision,
and
you
know
and
I'm
I'm,
just
thinking
about
these
people
who
have
got
caught
in
this
somewhat
Time
Warp
that
are
victims
of
the
pandemic.
P
P
If,
if,
if
it's
a
legitimate
request,
you
know
I'll
tell
you
personally,
it
takes
me
three
years
to
develop
a
property,
sometimes
three
years
and
my
soft
calls
before
I
even
get
to
that
point
of
getting
a
CO
I
mean
my
soft
cost
could
be
in
excess
of
a
half
a
million
dollars.
Easy
I've
got
a
lot
on
the
line.
I
can't
stop
I,
can't
just
stop
and
go
back
and
say
oh
or
pause,
and
it's
the
same,
even
though
the
numbers
and
percentages
are
different.
P
If
you
get
it
they're
coming
to
our
community
to
do
business
and
I
think
there's
some
people
out
there
that
that
have
you
know
I,
just
I
call
them
victims
of
the
pandemic,
but
they've
gotten
called
in
this
time
warp
here,
mayor,
I,
don't
know
what
the
answer
is,
but
I
think
there
may
be
some
business
owners
that
we
need
to
possibly
reevaluate.
It
looks
like
what
will
sit
here
tonight
and
from
others
I've
heard
of
the
chambers
approved
them
now.
L
Well
and-
and
let
me
just
say,
I
I
do
as
well
counselor
here's
the
thing
you
know
in
the
first
round
of
money.
You
know
we
had
you
know.
First
of
all,
we
submit
these
Grant
proposals
or
proposals
to
receive
this
money
like
in
this
instant.
We
submitted
it
to
the
state
and
we
said
we're
going
to
require
them
to
have
business
license
on
July,
1.
L
L
We
had
sent
back
to
the
feds
one
piece
of
paper,
that's
more
than
a
deck
of
10
years
ago
before
this
guy
got,
you
know,
but
that's
how
serious
it
is
and
and
Angelica
Alexander
is
not
going
to
put
this
city
in
such
a
position.
And
and
that's
you
know,
even
when
we
approve
pay
plans.
Let
me
just
giving
examples
if
we
say
You
must
have
been
on
payroll
July
1st.
L
In
order
to
receive
a
two
percent
pay
raise
and
you
came
June
30th,
you
don't
get
that
two
percent,
you
know,
and
so,
if
we
were
to
do
this,
we'd
have
to
go
and
do
it
open
the
gate
for
others
and
then,
when
the
state
comes
down
to
make
sure
that
we
have
spent
the
federal
money
in
accordance
with
our
approved
application
and
they
find
those,
then
somebody's
got
to
pay
the
money
back
and
that's
the
problem.
We
have
I
understand.
P
Is
there
a
way
to
to
you
know
it's
been
a
while
back
I,
don't
know
the
official
day
that
it
was
declared
we
were
declared
being
in
a
pandemic,
but
is
there
any
process
where
you
can
go
and
ask
for
an
amendment
or
to
go
back
and
re-establish
deadlines?
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
were
talking
about.
I
know
three
personally,
and
maybe
some
of
the
other
council
members
know
some
people
but
and
I'm
not
sure
how
many
people
were
talking
about,
but
I
do
know.
P
AJ
G
AJ
P
AJ
L
P
L
AD
B
Well-
and
you
know,
that's
the
yeah-
we
we
knew
going
in
that
that
there
were
gonna,
be
there
always
is
there's
some
that
and
through
no
fault
of
the
business
owner,
but
but
in
order
to
receive
money
from
particularly
from
the
federal
government,
I
mean
there's
no
wiggle
room.
I
said
it's
one
of
those
deals
where
well,
you
cover
everybody
that
you
can.
B
L
B
P
L
B
L
L
L
B
L
B
Four
through
seven
well,
all
right,
so
there
is,
there
is
yeah.
There
is
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
items,
four
through
eleven,
which
are
all
grants
and
we'll
call
the
question,
but
we
will
walk
through
them.
Have
the
city
manager
explain
what
we're
voting
for?
Is
there
any
counselor
that
wants
to
pull
one
of
those
prior
to
the
time
we
vote
on
it?
Hearing
nut
all
in
favor,
say
aye
any
opposed,
Okay.
L
L
L
Number
eight
is
a
solicitor
general
crime,
victim
assistance
grant
Nan
the
victims
of
crime
act
base,
Grant
number
10,
victims
of
crime
act,
compensation,
Grant
and
then
11,
State,
Criminal,
Alien
assistance
grant
application
and
those
are
the
purchases
that
you
just
approved
and
now
I'm
sorry,
the
items
you
approved
and
so
I
do
have
some
purchases.
I
have
three
purchases:
I've
got
a
bus
vacuum
system
for
Metra,
it's
350
000,
it's
a
grant,
matched
monies
I've
got
and
of
course
you
didn't
approve
those
I,
don't
believe
so.
B
L
It's
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
that
those
are
the
purchases
and
then
on.
The
updates.
I
do
have
the
tax
commissioner
who's
still
here,
but
I
the
river
valley
we've
postponed
and
then
the
ncda
Audrey
Nelson
C
we
postponed
but
D.
We
wanted
to
have
her
to
go
ahead
and
make
an
announcement,
because
these
are
HUD
grants
that
people
can
apply
for
that.
L
AF
The
response
is
that
the
Tax
Commissioner's
Office
relies
on
Tyler
and
outside
software
vendor
to
calculate
and
process
property
tax
bills
in
a
timely
fashion.
A
routine
software
update
created
an
unforeseen
system
migration
issue
during
a
critical
period
of
the
property
tax,
billing
and
collection
season.
The
migration
issue
affected
35
percent
of
the
property
Parcels,
resulting
in
delayed
posting
of
tax
payments.
AF
The
delayed
posting
hindered
the
ability
to
produce
bills
with
the
correct
amount.
Due
once
the
migration
issue
was
addressed.
There
was
insufficient
time
to
one
print,
the
notices
and
two
for
to
account
for
the
postal
Service
delivery
time
for
taxpayers
to
receive
notices
prior
to
December
1
due
date.
AF
Okay,
the
second
inquiry
was
in
reference
to
the
lateness
of
the
financial
data
being
reported
to
the
external
Auditors
in
a
timely
manner.
This
was
basically
very
simply
not
having
the
skilled
labor
and
not
having
enough
employees
Under
The
Limited
excess
to
skilled
labor.
The
tax
Commissioners
delay
in
submitting
financial
data
is
directly
related
to
challenges
and
securing
skilled
labor.
It
is
difficult
to
find
individuals
with
the
needed
skill
set
for
the
pay
grade
offered
in
2016
the
office
faced.
AF
The
departure
of
three
key
personnel,
including
the
accountant
which
we
are
still
recovering
from
the
covid-19
pandemic,
exacerbated
the
inherent
recruiting
challenges
and
within
the
last
year
the
accounting
position
in
the
office
has
been
filled
three
times
within
the
last
year.
Most
recently,
our
latest
employment
was
on
9
26,
with
a
new
accountant
which
made
it
difficult
to
try
to
provide
the
data
that
was
necessary
for
them
earlier.
AF
The
other
problem
is,
we
just
don't
have
enough
employees,
and
so
what
I
provided
to
you
is
some
data
that
was
provided
in
a
2002
study
that
was
done
by
the
Macon
bib
County
2002
cost
study
of
tax
Commissioners
operations
in
seven
comparable
root
counties
in
Georgia,
I
pulled
four,
because
they
were
all
Consolidated
governments
that
being
Columbus
Macon,
Augusta
and
Savannah
in
2002.
Columbus's
population
was
about
a
800
186
500..
AF
AF
The
population
for
Columbus
is
at
212
408..
We
still
have
30
employees
when
I
look
at
Macon
in
2002
Macon
had
a
population
of
97
000.
They
had
43
employees
to
our
32..
In
2014
they
had
a
population
of
154
903
with
41
employees
to
our
30.
in
Macon
in
2022,
since
it's
a
hundred
and
fifty
seven
thousand
three
forty
six
and
they
have
48
employees
to
our
30
employees,
Augusta,
which
at
one
time
outranked
Us
in
population
in
2002,
had
199
000
for
population
employees.
They
had
37.
We
had
32.
AF
AF
Savannah
started
out
in
2002
with
a
population
of
almost
300
000
at
289..
They
had
63
employees
in
2022.
They
have
63
plus
employees
with
a
population
of
294
thousand
eight
fifteen.
This
comparison
shows
the
magnitude
of
Labor
required
to
run
an
office
of
comparable
population
size.
The
tax
commissioner
needs
additional
people
with
a
higher
skill
set.
AF
Additional
responsibilities
have
also
come
into
play,
sends
elected
to
this
position
with
the
same
number
of
employees
since
2002.
In
this
comparison,
they
include
the
Tad
and
bid
management,
collection
and
distribution
processing.
Titles
tablet
collections
operating
two
systems
on
the
motor
vehicle
side,
which
is
Gratis
and
drives
both
simultaneously
we're
having
to
do
the
in-house
programming
for
property
tax
software
utilizing
what
Tyler
has
provided
providing
custom
reports
to
agencies
via
property
tax
software
again
in-person
customers
are
another
issue
for
us.
AF
AF
This
system
is
disrupted
and
delayed
when
Key
Personnel
are
pulled
to
assist
in-person
customers
during
high
volume
periods,
which
has
created
long
lines,
but
we're
working
towards
continuous
Improvement
and
part
of
that
is
accounting.
Software
is
being
upgraded,
we're
working
with
financial
institutions
to
increase
in
efficiencies
and
we're
working
with
our
software
provider,
Tyler
Tyler
Technologies
to
provide
user-friendly
reports
and
training
support
and
we're
budgeting
in
fiscal
year
in
2024
for
an
analyst
with
accounting
and
Technology
strong
strengths.
U
L
P
You,
sir
counselor
Davis
yeah
I,
wanted
to
go
back
Madam,
commissioner
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
the
first
part
of
it.
So
what
I
hear
you
say
is
that
there
was
a
I
guess,
a
an
unforeseen,
meta
migration
issue
that
was
in
the
software,
so
it
was
basically
a
software
matter.
So
does
this
mean
next
year
that
the
taxpayers
will
get
two
notices
in
a
timely
manner?
Is
that
what
you're
saying
it's?
Just
just
a
one-time.
AF
AF
O
P
AF
P
P
AF
Terrific
and
if
I
might
just
add
that
I
think
it's
quite
honorable,
that
this
Council
passed
the
resolution
that
they
pass
in
order
to
give
some
relief
to
those
taxpayers
that
might
have
followed
into
the
category
of
having
a
penalty
or
interest
charge
to
them
which,
by
this
office,
we
have
to
abide
by
what
the
law
is
and
the
way
the
law
was
written.
We
had
to
charge
it
for
that,
but
we
will
surely
implement
the
ordinance
I
think
I
said
resolution.
B
B
AF
L
AK
AK
Okay,
so
of
course
this
is
the
kickoff
for
our
cdbg
and
home
funding
cycle
every
year.
We
must
do
an
annual
action
plan
that
helps
us
to
establish
how
we
will
spend
those
funds.
We
have
already
started
the
planning
process.
We
had
two
workshops
on
Tuesday
January
17th,
which
were
notice
of
funding
availability
workshops,
so
interested
agencies
could
come
and
learn
about
the
funding.
AK
AK
I'll
try
to
get
them
through
it,
okay,
all
right!
So
of
course,
as
you
all
know,
this
is
based
on
our
Consolidated
plan,
which
was
A
Five-Year
Plan,
and
we
have
eight
goals
related
to
that
plan,
that
the
action
plan
has
to
adhere
to
they're
related
to
housing,
new
housing
for
affordable,
affordable
housing,
housing
Rehabilitation
on
down
to
public
improvements.
We
even
had
coveted
19
in
there
because
we
started
our
plan
back
in
21.
AK
foreign,
so
for
the
cdbg
program,
this
is
Community
Development
block
grant.
We
are
anticipating
about
1.6
million
dollars
in
funding,
but
this
is
an
estimate
we
will
know,
probably
in
May
what
our
actual
amount
will
be.
You
guys
are
probably
familiar.
We
cap,
that
about
at
15
for
public
services,
which
should
be
about
196
thousand
dollars,
and
we
also
do
public
facilities
and
infrastructure
improvements
through
this
funding
stream.
AK
AK
Of
course,
our
target
audience
is
low
in
moderate
income,
persons
and
households.
So
any
activity
that
we
do
must
serve
a
majority
LMI
low
to
moderate
income,
households
and
families.
We
can
either
serve
communities
that
are
low
to
moderate
income,
households
or
specific
groups,
whether
they
be
seniors
Child,
Care
programs
Etc-
and
there
are
a
long
list
of
things
that
we
can
do.
I
won't
go
into
that,
but
call
our
office
and
we'll
happy
to
share
okay.
Then
there's
there's
our
home
program.
We
are
anticipating
about
858
thousand
dollars.
AK
Through
this
program
we
do
have
a
designated
organization,
a
choto
that
is
designated
to
build,
affordable
housing.
We
also
do,
of
course,
Rehabilitation
tenant-based
rental
assistance
and
our
down
payment
assistance
program
called
Sweet
Farm,
Columbus,
okay,
so
the
objectives
are,
as
you
can
imagine,
to
increase
safe,
decent,
affordable
housing
generally
speaking
and
agencies
that
apply
for
the
funding
must
have
a
25
match
for
the
funding
that
they're
awarded.
AK
And
through
the
home
program,
we
generally
serve
families
that
are
80
percent
area
median
income.
But
if
you
are
looking
for
tenant-based
rental
assistance,
it
maxes
out
at
60
Ami,
so
for
an
example
for
most
of
our
programs.
If
you're
a
family
of
four,
you
couldn't
earn
more
than
54
000
around
54
000.
AK
But
if
you
needed
tenant-based
rental
assistance,
a
family
of
four
could
only
could
only
earn
around
forty
one
thousand
so
for
those
agencies
looking
to
apply,
there
is
a
list
of
criteria
you
do
have
to
be
somewhat
established
and
be
able
to
demonstrate
Your
Capacity
to
manage
these
funds.
We
are
receiving
Federal
funding,
as
city
manager
talked
about
just
a
minute
ago,
and
so
our
agencies
are
as
responsible
as
we
are
at
being
capable
of
managing
those
funds.
AK
Well,
so
again,
any
agency
that
you
guys
would
like
to
recommend
or
that's
interested
is
welcome
to
reach
out
to
us.
We
will
be
accepting
applications
for
this.
These
funding
streams
until
Sunday
February
19th
at
11
59.
You
can
go
on
neighborly.com
to
complete
the
application,
and
if
you
have
questions
you
can
contact
me
Kimberly
Mitchell
at
mitchell.cimberly.
Sorry,
Mitchell
dot
Kimberly
at
columbusgeorgia.org
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
general
questions
you
guys
have
so.
L
L
AK
L
AK
L
And
that's
why
we
we've
got
to
be
careful
about
who
we
select
and
we
can.
They
got
to
meet
all
the
guidelines
criteria
and
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
they
have
all
the
paperwork,
because
that
one
agency
that
didn't
have
that
paperwork
10
years
ago,
whenever
cost
us
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
Council.
D
Tucker,
yes,
so
the
goal
number
two,
where
you
say:
housing
rehab
those
applications
are
only
for
agencies
not
for
an
individual
who's,
trying
to
get
a
housing
rehab,
but
an
actual
say.
If
the
Urban
League
wanted
to
put
some
matching
dollars
up
to
do
a
project,
it
would
be
just
for
the
Urban
League
not
for.
D
AE
AE
U
O
U
The
issue
is:
there's
a
tree
that
has
caused
some
trouble
over
the
years
and
the
pipes
and
things,
but
anyway,
every
time
it
rains,
the
water
runs
back
on
the
house.
So
it's
into
the
crawl
space
area
and
from
time
to
time
it
comes
into
the
house,
so
I'll
get
you
the
details
and
I'll
see
what
we
can
do.
Okay.
Thank
you.
T
B
B
T
T
X
B
T
Next,
we
have
Council
appointments
and
denominations
will
be
listed
for
the
next
meeting,
the
building
authority
of
Columbus
the
seat
of
Vincent
Allen.
This
seat
is
open
for
nominations.
Next
we
have
the
Columbus
Aquatics
commission.
We
have
the
seats
of
David
helmick
Bruce
Samuels,
and
we
have
one
vacancy
that
councilor
kogel
is
nominating
Ms
Jensen
Melton
for
this
vacant
seat,
and
we
will
bring
this
back
at
the
next
meeting.
For
the
person
review
board.
We
have
the
seat
of
Dr
Shanita
Pettaway.
This
seat
is
open
for
nominations
for
the
tree
board.
T
We
have
Chris
Henson,
Troy,
Keller,
Frank
Tommy.
These
seats
are
open
for
nominations,
then
I
have
some
upcoming
board
appointments
the
board
of
zoning
appeals.
This
is
the
council's
appointment,
the
building
authority
of
Columbus.
We
have
the
mayor
and
Council
have
appointments
on
the
commission
on
international
relations
and
cultural
liaison
Encounters.
This
is
the
mayor
and
Council
appointment,
Civic
Center,
Advisory
Board.
This
is
also
the
Marion
Council
appointments
for
the
crime
prevention,
Advisory
Board.
This
is
the
mayor's
appointments,
the
historic
and
Architectural
Review
Board.