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A
Thank
you
all
right,
thank
you
and
again,
if
you,
if
those
of
you
who
are
here
if
you
have
not
signed
in
please,
do
us
a
favor
and
go
to
the
to
the
front
door
and
make
sure
that
you
sign
in
so
we've
got
a
record
of
your
attendance.
We
will
first
hear
the
the
reading
of
a
staff
report
for
each
case
that
is
being
brought
before
us
today
for
those
of
you
in
the
audience
and
those
watching
on
television.
This
is
the
first
hearing
of
any
rezoning
text.
A
Well,
then,
we
give
anyone,
so
we
give
anyone
in
the
audience
to
speak
for
or
against.
Then
the
commissioners
will
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
any
questions
to
have
any
further
discussion
and
then
we'll
ask
for
a
motion,
and
once
the
motion
is
made
and
is
and
is
seconded
by,
the
commission
of
vote
will
take
place
and
a
recommend
recommendation
will
be
rendered.
The
case
will
go
back
to
the
Planning
Department
for
their
independent
recommendation
and
then,
if
and
if
it's
a
favorable
recommendation,
then
the
case
moves
forward
to
City
Council
with
two
independent
recommendations.
A
If
the
Planning
Department
makes
a
recommendation
for
denial
or
the
Commission
makes
a
recommendation
for
denial,
the
applicant
will
have
ten
days
from
the
letter
stating
denial
to
notify
the
Clerk
of
Council
that
they
are
requesting
to
be
placed
on
the
city's
agenda.
The
City
Council
Columbus
will
hold
a
public
meeting.
It's
called
the
first
reading
and
then
the
council
will
consider
the
case.
The
review
pack
and
Planning
Department
recommendations
they'll
hear
any
discussion
on
the
matter
very
similar
to
what
takes
place
here.
A
The
council
will
then
make
a
final
decision
at
what
is
called
a
second
reading
or
a
second
public
meeting,
and
so
that's
sort
of
how
the
the
gist
of
how
all
of
that
works.
We
don't,
commissioners,
we
don't
have
any
minutes
to
bring
forward.
This
go
around
we're
going
to
catch
up
on
the
minutes
at
our
next
meeting,
so
we're
gonna
jump
right
into
our
cases
and
I
need
to
look
at
something
because
we're
shifting
the
order
on
a
couple
of
things
here.
A
Nning
is
GC,
which
is
general
commercial,
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
ro,
which
is
residential
office.
The
proposed
use
is
a
warehousing
residential
apartments
and
office.
Just
in
Krieg
is
the
applicant,
and
this
property
is
located
in
council
district
8.
Mr.
Renfro,
if
you've
got
the
staff
report,
postman.
B
General
land
uses
consistent
planning
area
F
current
land
use,
designation
as
general
commercial
futures
makes
you
use.
It
is
compatible
with
the
existing
land
uses
the
environmental
impacts.
The
property
does
not
lie
within
the
floodway
and
floodplain
area.
The
developer
will
need
an
improved
drainage
plan.
B
Excuse
me,
prior
to
the
issuance
of
a
site
development
permit.
If
a
permit
is
required,
property
service
by
all
city
services,
average
annual
daily
trips
will
increase
by
141
trips.
If
used
for
office,
the
level
of
service
will
remain
a
level
of
C.
The
site
shall
meet
the
codes
and
regulations
of
the
Columbus
consolidate
government
for
commercial
usage.
There
would
be
no
school
impact,
no
buffer
requirements,
no
response
from
Fort
Benning,
no
DRI
recommendation,
60
property
owners
within
300
feet
of
the
subjects
property
were
notified
of
the
rezoning
request.
B
A
C
Just
say
just
like
I
have
a
technical
question
concerning
the
traffic
count,
the
its
the
staff
report
said
the
it
will
increase
by
141
trips.
It's.
It
seems
to
me
that
the
proposed
zoning
traffic
as
141,
so
the
traffic
actually
goes
down
for
160
241,
there's
just
a
small
technical
point
that
if
it's
going
to
be
on
the
record,
it's
just
be
right
about
it.
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
Yeah
Thank.
D
B
A
C
A
E
Name
is
Bill
green
I
live
at
1631,
Hilton
Avenue
I'm
here
representing
Justin,
because
he
is
actually
hosting
a
group
on
the
planning
of
the
city
village
site
this
morning,
so
I'm
working
with
Justin
on
this
project,
I
have
retired
from
WC
Bradley
as
a
vice
president
of
construction
and
have
about
20
years.
15.
20
years
of
experience
in
this
type
of
urban
planning,
justin
is
asking
that
you
change.
E
Putting
two
apartments
on
the
ground
floor
allows
him
to
use
the
front
portion
of
the
one
building
as
office
space.
What
we
have
found
in
the
Uptown
area
is
the
depth
of
the
retail
areas.
The
ground-floor
areas
in
most
the
old
buildings
is
much
more
than
a
present
commercial
commercial
user
needs,
so
he's
asked
if
he
can
put
two
units
in
the
back
one
half
of
this
one
building
the
uses
he's
got
a
retail
in
one
building
office
in
the
front
of
the
second
building
apartments
in
the
back
and
apartments.
E
On
the
second
floor
of
the
two-story
building,
he's
asked
for
a
reduction
in
parking
spaces,
which
is
also
very
typical
of
an
urban
environment.
Actually
in
Uptown
Columbus
believe
I'm
correct
a
certain
district
of
uptown
Columbus.
There
is
ZERO
parking
requirement
for
this
type
of
development.
The
market
determines
whether
you
need
parking
or
not
not
zoning
and
putting
parking
requirements,
and
this
type
of
environment
tends
to
mean
you
take
down
old
buildings,
because
you
need
parking
and
you're
not
allowed
to
do
the
preservation
in
the
most
modern,
using
the
most
modern
planning
methods.
E
F
E
A
D
Following
up
on
the
parking,
it
seems
like
second
Avenue
is
a
very
busy
street
already
and
if
you've
got,
and
even
the
27
spaces
are
split
along
a
couple
of
different
areas.
So
you're
not
concerned
that
you
would
have
people
looking
for
parking
on
2nd
Avenue
with
a
lot
of
traffic
whizzing
by
on
both
sides.
The.
E
Market
will
determine
whether
he's
made
the
right
decision
or
not
on
that
Justin,
and
we
all
the
more
you
can
encourage
people
to
walk
a
block
or
two
in
this
type
of
environment.
Certainly
the
the
better
the
the
development
of
the
urban
area
is
uptown.
Columbus
is
a
very
good
example
of
several
years
ago.
Our
citizens
did
not
want
to
walk
two
blocks
to
get
to
a
restaurant
that
uptown
Columbus
is
thriving.
Today
there
are
areas
to
park
out
at
the
edges
that
people
will
learn
to
use
and
walk
that
block.
E
People
will
learn
to
walk
and
it's
true
in
all
urban
areas
and
I.
Really
I
really
would
encourage
everyone
to
think
of
this
part
of
Bibb
City
as
an
urban
area,
not
a
suburban
area,
which
is
really
what
a
lot
of
our
parking
requirements
have
have
been
been
written
about
suburban
planning.
So
this
is
a
little.
This
is
kind
of
a
hybrid
area
right
now,
but
I
really
do.
The
hope
is
that
it
will.
It
will
blossom
into
one
of
the
little
villages.
D
Sympathetic
to
what
you're
trying
to
do,
but
I've
got
to
say
that
in
following
your
analogy,
you
don't
have
anything
like
second
Avenue
going
right
down
the
middle
of
Uptown,
so
I'm
I
just
be
concerned.
If
you've
got
a
lot
of
pedestrians
trying
to
cross
the
street
to
park
on
one
side
and
get
over
the
speed.
E
Of
traffic
on
Second
Avenue
is
a
concern
for
the
development
of
this
area,
but
that
is
a
concern
for
the
developer
and
the
planners
of
this
area.
Excuse
me
and
we
actually,
in
Uptown
traffic,
has
been
it's
a
20-year
process,
but
traffic
has
had
to
be
slowed
down
to
make
it
a
more
pedestrian
from
the
area.
G
Madam
chair,
in
strength,
yes,
sir,
do
you
have
any
idea
how
many
units
he
wants
a
place
in
this?
Yes,.
E
I
saw
it
in
the
package,
but
there
are
two:
there
are
three
buildings
on
the
site:
one
is
a
warehouse
that
is
behind
what
used
to
be
the
fabric
store,
I
believe,
but
in
the
two-story
building
he
has
two
units
planned
on
the
bottom
floor
and
four
units
up
on
the
second
floor.
The
two
units
would
be
in
the
back
of
the
two-story
building
and
the
front
of
the
two-story
building
would
be
I
thought
I
had
it
here,
I'm
sorry
would
be
office,
so.
G
G
E
Well,
he's
what
he
would
like
to
do
is
there
is
metal
cladding
siding
on
the
front
of
the
building?
He
hopes
that
he
can
remove
the
metal,
siding,
restore
the
historic
fronts
of
the
buildings,
using
historic
tax
credits
which
have
stringent
requirements,
the
historic
tax
credit
program
that
he
would
actually
restore
the
building
to
more
of
its
original
state.
You
know,
and
to
your
comment
about
there
seemed
to
be
some
build
some
businesses
in
the
area
that
are
doing
okay.
Yes,
they
are
doing
okay,
I
wouldn't
say
they
were
thriving.
E
E
I've
been
trying
to
get
others
to
invest
in
this
area.
I
need
to
invest
in
this
area
as
well
to
lead
the
way
and
if
we
can
slow
the
traffic
down
a
little
bit
get
some
variances
on
some
of
the
requirements
that
are
healthy
variances
and
do
the
planning
for
the
area.
I.
Believe
you'll
see
these
buildings
not
doing
okay
with
starting
to
thrive.
It.
D
Is
actually
for
staff,
but
it
follows
up
on
something
the
applicant
said.
My
copy
of
the
zoning
handbook
says
that
for
residential
office,
residential
uses
are
to
be
located
above
the
ground
floor
and
I
understand.
The
applicant
is
planning
to
have
apartment
two
apartments
on
the
ground
floor.
I.
Don't
see
any
problem
with
that,
but
if
we
want
to
consider
a
motion
to
do
what
the
applicant
wants
us
to
do,
do
we
need
to
have
something
in
there
to
waive
the
ground
floor
requirement.
H
A
G
A
Right
so
we're
gonna
add
that
we're
gonna
have
the
two
exception,
the
two
exceptions
for
the
parking
waiver.
So
don't
hear
a
second
with
the
amended
version,
all
right,
all
those
in
favor.
Please
raise
your
right
hand
and
all
those
opposed
all
right.
It
will
go
forward
as
a
recommendation
for
approval.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
A
Right
so
that
brings
us
to
our
next
case,
which
is
ar
e
ZN
1
2
1
8
2
4
7.
This
is
a
request
to
rezone
1.5
acres
of
land
located
at
14
29
Morris
Road.
The
current
zoning
is
sfr,
which
is
single-family
residential.
The
proposed
zoning
is
G,
C,
general
commercial.
The
proposed
use
is
business,
retail
Martin
Flournoy
is
the
applicant,
and
this
property
is
located
in
council,
district,
1
barns
and
the
applicants
comforts
a
fuel
station
up
nope.
B
General
land
uses
inconsistent
planning
area
e.
Current
land
use,
designation
is
parks,
recreation
conservation,
futures
park
for
recreation
conservation,
it
is
compatible,
is
existing
land
usage
usage.
The
property
does
not
lie
within
the
floodway
and
floodplain
area
that
evelle
poor
will
need
an
approved
drainage
plan
prior
to
the
issuance
of
a
site
development
permit.
If
a
permit
is
required,
property
is
served
by
all
city
services.
Average.
Annual
annual
daily
trips
will
increase
by
191
trips.
The
level
of
service
remain
be
the
site
shall
meet
the
codes
and
regulations
of
the
Columbus
consolidate
for
commercial
usage.
B
B
The
three
options
under
category
C
are
20-feet,
with
a
certain
amount
of
canopy
trees,
understory
trees,
shrubs
ornamental
grasses
per
100
linear
feet,
10
feet
with
a
certain
amount
of
shrubs
ornamental
grasses
per
100
linear
feet
and
a
wood
fence
or
masonry
wall
300
feet,
underserved,
natural
buffer,
no
recommendation
from
Fort
Benton
or
DRI
recommendation
25
property
owners
within
300
feet
of
the
subject.
Property
were
notified
of
the
rezoning
quest.
The
Planning
Department
received
one
phone
call
or
email
regarding
it
approving
it.
No
additional
information.
A
J
Name
is
Martin
Illinois
and
on
behalf
of
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
I'm,
one
of
the
board
members,
our
executive
directors
here
and
my
address
is
25,
20
went
and
wrote
and,
as
John
so
aptly
described.
This
is
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
East
Columbus.
We
are
in
the
process
and
have
under
contract
the
Edgewood
elementary
school,
approximately,
probably
a
quarter
mile
to
the
north.
C
See
it's
currently
SFR
and
it's
you
know
near
the
park,
conservation,
the
playground
and
so
forth
down
there.
It
seems
like
a
big
stretch
to
go
to
general
commercial.
Have
you
considered
neighborhood,
commercial
or
residential
office,
or
something
in
between
that's
not
quite
as
severe
I
mean.
The
traffic
analysis
here
was
for
an
auto
parts.
J
Store
it.
Have
you
seen
that
the
building
where
it's
located,
yeah,
okay?
Well,
it's
it's
in
an
industrial
area,
the
merry
acres
industrial
park
there.
What
we
anticipate
quite
honestly,
is
that
we're
going
to
probably
end
up
with
another
business-
that's
already
located
there,
probably
expanding
because
of
the
the
size
of
the
building,
the
gymnasium
and
all
the
classrooms
right
now
we're
target
marketing
churches
because
we
feel
like
that,
might
suit
their
need.
But
it's
a
it's
a
fairly
difficult
building
to
market
to
have
any
less
Arizona
than
general
commercial
I.
J
Think
is
a
mistake
because
it
would
end
up
sitting
there.
Vacant
we'd
be
here
trying
to
rezone
it
another
time
to
allow
the
users
that
are
there
to
occupy,
but
I
understand
your
concern
and
I.
Think
everybody
on
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
is
very
conscientious
about
making
sure
we
get
the
right
user
in
there,
and
you
know
not
some
record
company
or
something,
but
the
the
nature
of
the
business
is
going
to
dictate
that
it's
going
to
be
somebody
that
needs
space
in
the
church.
J
The
church
uses
quite
honestly
what
we
anticipate
we've
already
gotten
phone
calls
from
prospective
churches
and
feel
like
with
the
ball
field.
Nearby
that'll
be
the
highest
and
best
use,
but
we
need.
We
need
to
have
the
flexibility
to
be
able
to
accommodate
the
people
who
are
already
over
there
that
have
businesses.
A
Any
other
questions,
commissioners
for
the
applicant,
all
right
is
there.
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
speak
in
favor
of
this
request?
If
so,
please
come
forward.
I
see
no
one.
Oh
I
do
have
someone
who
would
like
to
speak
in
favor
if
you'll
just
come
to
the
mic
and
state
your
name
and
address
sure.
K
Excuse
me
at
that
location
and
have
outgrown
it
about
a
hundred
boys
and
girls
that
are
on
a
waiting
list
because
of
the
need
to
relocate
up
the
road
to
Edgewood
and
just
want
to
thank
Marty,
and
thank
you
for
your
consideration
of
this
opportunity
not
only
to
serve
six
through
12
years
in
that
community,
but
also
to
go
back
to
serve
13
through
18
with
the
move.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
G
M
F
G
To
that
facility
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
expansion
to
Edgewood,
because
you
will
be
able
to
do
a
lot
more
than
certain
more
kids
and
that's
exactly
what
we
need
in
our
community
today,
Morgan
is
involved,
learning
sort
of
that
not
on
the
streets,
doing
things
that
they
shouldn't
be
doing
so
I'm,
certainly
in
support
of
what
the
Boys
and
Girls
Clubs
are
trying
to
do,
because
you
guys
have
a
track
record
of
great
success
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you,
since
she
was
here
and
took
time
out
to
come
this
morning.
You.
A
Know
and
I
second,
that
to
such
a
good,
structured,
healthy
environment,
it
is
a
mission.
Thank
you,
commissioners,
any
any
other
questions
or
discussion
all
right.
So
then
do
I
have
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
speak
against
this
request.
There
is
no
one.
Do
I,
hear
a
motion.
N
N
A
A
B
J
A
B
Meant
about
preventing
community
facilities
with
a
special
exception
in
the
following
districts.
The
special
exception
would
go
into
the
historic
presidential
estate
10-5
and
1
SF
4
1,
SF
r,
2
3
&
4,
the
residential
multifamily
1
&
2
&.
Then
it
would
be
a
permit
permitted
use
in
the
uptown
district,
the
c
rd
neighborhood
commercial
residential
office,
commercial
office
and
general
commercial.
A
C
B
B
This
text
amendment
to
the
Edgewood
school
is
one
of
the
reasons
is
we're
a
lot
of
the
Boys
and
Girls
Clubs
throughout
Oklahoma,
since
Muscogee
County
are
not
not
necessarily
zoned
in
in
the
correct
zoning
classification,
but
a
lot
of
times
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
or
necess
needed
to
be
zoned
in
family
residential
areas,
and
that's
the
case
for
for
Edgewood
elementary
school.
We
wouldn't
want
to
go
in
and
rezone
that
to
general
commercial
or
anything
like
that.
So
this
text
amendment
allows
that
to
kind
of
encompass
all
of
those
in
one
text,
amendment.
C
C
B
The
definition
for
community
Susilo
tees
means
public
or
private
facilities
such
as
assembly
halls,
union
halls,
comforts
halls
and
centers
stadiums,
arenas
auditoriums,
including
an
accessory
office,
or
an
administrative
space;
nonprofit
clubs
and
lodges
art,
galleries,
museums,
libraries
and
theaters
for
live
performances
or
films,
videos
or
other
electronic
medium.
Golf
courses
and
club
houses.
Excluding
miniature
golf
and
public
uses.
D
Deadly
yes,
just
a
comment
on
that
definition.
That
seems
to
be
very
broad
and
it
seems
to
overlap
with
a
lot
of
existing
definitions.
There's
a
separate
one
for
golf
course
club
or
lodged
nonprofit
that
each
have
their
own
list
of
permitted
and
SCU
special
exception
uses.
So
I'm
not
sure
that
I
see
the
benefit
of
combining
all
these
into
one
rather
than
just
saying.
Well,
the
Edgewood
Road
site.
D
B
C
C
Maybe
we
can
modify
this
in
some
way,
but
you
know
it
affects
the
historic
district,
all
essentially
all
residential
zones
in
the
city,
with
the
exception
of
residences,
maybe
in
the
riverfront,
the
store,
the
uptown
and
maybe
residential
office,
so
there's,
maybe
80
or
90
percent
of
the
residents
residences
in
the
in
the
city
that
would
be
affected
by
this
text
amount
of
it.
Okay-
and
you
know
there
are
a
variety
of
uses,
so
you
know
if
you,
if
you
ended
up
with
specially.
C
If
this
is
passed
and
and
then
there
are
subsequent
special
exceptions,
you
could
you
could
have
a
variety
of
things
happen
which
are
unintended
consequences
which
I
don't
think
we
really
would
want
to
have
happen.
You
might
end
up
with
soccer
areas
in
the
historic
district
you
might
have
hockey
arenas
and
single-family
residence
areas,
basketball,
arenas
and
residential
multifamily,
so
I
think
it's
too
comprehensive.
G
H
Morning
the
reason
we
didn't
go
that
route
and
we
possibly
could
have
is
club
or
large
non-for-profit
means
a
building
or
facility
operated
on
a
non-profit
basis
for
cultural,
fraternal,
recreational,
religious
and
social
purposes,
and
it
really
didn't
meet
the
definition
for
what
the
boys
club
does.
Now.
We
could
throw
in
something
there
that
says,
create.
A
H
F
A
H
O
A
D
G
H
Essentially,
the
exact
same
thing
most
for
even
though
the
zoning
all
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
Girls
Inc
in
Columbus
other
places
like
that.
Most
time
we're
located
in
bad
zoning
areas,
st.
but
they're
in
the
middle
of
neighborhoods,
yeah,
they're
single-family,
so
the
uses
around
them
are
single-family.
The
zoning
is
multifamily
commercial,
Shaw.
Q
Totally
for
boys
club
girls
club
that
my
concern
here
is
that
now
we
are
going
back
and
we're
making
all
of
these
changes
to
this
and
I
would
rather
us
go
back
and
revisit
and
properly
document
the
special
exception
that
we're
asking
to
do
here.
I
get.
We
want
to
do
the
broad
brush
to
cover
all
the
boys
in
those
clubs.
What
we're
doing,
though,
I'm
afraid
is
we're
opening
up
the
entire
city
to
this
special
exception,
because
it
goes
across
all
the
all
the
table.
Q
C
H
Well,
as
far
as
a
rezoning
standpoint
goes
with
general
commercial,
which
is
what
this
would
be
allowed
in
for
this
particular
location
that
mr.
Flint
was
pursuing,
would
be
spot
zoning,
and
then
we
end
up
with
another
vacant
school
here
in
Columbus.
It's
going
to
fall
in
upon
itself.
So
that's
why
we
proceeded
with
the
special
exception.
Is
it
does
give
us
some
protections
parking
impact
on
the
neighborhood
things
of
that
nature
as
far
as
placing
it
in
there.
G
So
it's
okay
to
move
the
discussion
forward
with
the
concerns
that
on
the
table.
What
are
the
options
here?
I
mean
I
hate
for
us
to
leave
this
discussion
with
plans
of
fixing
it.
We
don't
know
where
they're
headed
as
a
commission.
So
let's,
let's
try
to
figure
out
where
we
want
to
go
with
this,
to
accommodate
all
the
concerns
that
have
no
place
on
the
table.
It
is
a
variance
for
the
particular
locations.
Is
that
an
option?
It's
not
enough.
That's
not
an
option.
Okay,
so
we
would
have
to
do
some
form
of
specialties.
H
G
H
G
F
F
Q
My
preference
would
be
to
properly
detail
this
rather
than
us
try
to
figure
out
how
to
verbally
state
this
exception.
That's
my
concern
and
I'm
totally
forward
with
what
the
boys
and
girls
club
is
doing
and
I
want
to
support
that,
and
my
concern
is
selling
another
commissioner,
that
you
know
when,
when
all
of
these
faces
change
in
the
next
five
to
ten
years
that
by
adding
this
in,
we
don't
know
what
we're
opening
up.
I
just
have
a
concern.
I'd,
rather
this
be
properly
reworded
and
and
presented.
Can.
D
To
the
civic
and
public
section,
that's
a
specific
category
for
institutions
like
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club.
It's
not
nearly
as
broad
as
the
community
facility,
one
well,
we
and
what
proposed
with
se
use
for
locations
where
there
are
the
categories
where
there
are
boys
and
girls.
Clubs
now,
including
what.
N
This
is
gonna,
do
is
it's
gonna
open
it
up,
so
that
this
is
allowed
now,
when
we
get
to
his
special
exception
right,
that's
what
we'll
decide
and
can
limit
what
goes
on
on
that
property.
But
this
is
not
opening
it
up
saying.
Okay,
all
this
can
go
on
at
any
area,
because
each
area
that
has
a
special
exception
will
come
before
us
and
it
will
go
through
planning,
as
it
always
has
I.
N
Was
written,
you
know
back
when
it
was
written
and
basically
they've
defined
the
community
facilities.
Now,
if
we
choose
not
to
place
a
community
or
I'll
have
a
certain
exception
in
here,
we
can
take
it
out.
So
when
we
go
to
his
special
exception
case,
we
can
limit
it.
We
can
limit
it
to
what
he's
using
there.
Now,
if
you
came
in
and
you
live
in
the
historic
district
and
you
wanted
to
come
in
and
do
the
same
thing,
we
would
limit
you
as
well
and
hear
the
case
individually.
D
N
Say
it
is
we
can
limit
it
in
the
special
exception
we
can.
We
can
say
it's
only
going
to
be
the
administrative
space,
nonprofit
clubs,
possibly
even
leave
off
lodges
if
we
wanted
to
own
this
particular
case,
but
we
would
have
to
hear
every
case
there's
not
a
broad
brushstroke
for
each
each
case.
Basically,
you
just
have
these
that
are
allowed
and
again
it's
up
to
us
to
understand.
What's
going
on
there
and
assign
it
appropriately
through
the
special
exception.
I
Know
that
I
need,
if
we're
gonna,
just
amend
what
they've
proposed,
which
was
community
facility
to
use
clover
Lodge
nonprofit
I,
don't
I
mean
that's
pretty
plain
language,
not
requiring
a
lot
of
amendments.
I
would
be
in
favor
of
moving
forward
with
that
today,
because
we
know
what
that
is
and
we're
that
fits
their
definition
of
what
the
Boys
and
Girls
Clubs
are
doing
up.
I,
don't
see
why
we
need
to
wait
another
month
or
kick
them
out
another
month
if
we
just
if
we
could
agree
or
pass
that
the
proposed
change
would
be
all.
I
A
A
I
What
I
would
propose
in
the
case
of
our
ezn
12
18
2
4
8,
is
to
amend
the
you
do
specifically
table
three
point.
One
point
one
such
that
Kluber
lodged
nonprofit
is
made
for
a
special
exception
in
the
zoning
areas
presented
by
the
Planning
Department
and
that
the
definition
of
clever
lodged
nonprofit,
we
add
the
word
educational
and
then
at
the
end
and
or
change
the
or
and/or.
I
A
D
I
F
F
G
H
Vary
in
their
zoning
classifications,
plus
a
special
exception
gives
us
the
protection.
You
know
if
you
cannot
meet
the
parking
if
you're
trying
to
open
one
in
a
house
on
the
middle
of
a
resident
in
the
middle
of
a
residential
street,
where
you're
going
to
impact
the
neighborhood
I
mean
all
those
criteria
are
set
forth
in
the
special
exception
and
it's
an
up-or-down.
If
you
can
meet
it.
H
A
B
To
point
out,
excuse
me
that
in
the
one
that
we
presented
for
community
facilities,
uptown,
CRD
and
NC
was
permitted
use
under
the
table
club
or
not
large,
non
non
non
profit
that
that
is
not
permitted.
So
is
that
going
to
become
a
special
exception
used
there?
Are
we
gonna
eliminate
the
eliminate
that
altogether
for
those
areas.
I
I
I
A
I
A
J
J
When
we
came
forward
looking
at
how
we
would
do
the
Edgewood
school
project,
first
of
all,
we
got
vetted
pretty
heavily
by
the
school
board
before
they
would
sell
the
school.
They
know
who
potential
suitors
were
so.
There
was
a
rather
lengthy.
This
has
been
going
on
for
almost
a
year
more
than
a
year,
so
that
whole
process
with
the
school,
the
school
board
being
very
persnickety
about
who's,
going
to
occupy
that
school.
J
The
next
step
is,
you,
go
down
and
meet
with,
will
John
and
the
whole
crew,
and
they
they
want
to
know
exactly
what
you're
doing
before
they
will
get
on
board.
So
you
all
have
a
very
thorough
set
of
hurdles
that
someone
has
got
to
go
through
before
they
ever
get
to
this
point,
so
I,
don't
think
you're
gonna
be
seeing
a
lot
of
frivolous
golf
courses
being
recommended
to
go
or
gambling
halls
or
something
like
that.
No
I
can
just
say
it's
a
gauntlet
that
you
have
to
go
through
and
it's
it's
very
expensive.
J
A
We're
pretty
pretty
roll
over
those
of
us
that
are
sitting
up
here,
aren't
getting
paid
periods,
pretty
well
aware.
What
goes
into
this?
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
speak
against
the
text
amendment
as
it's
been
amended
verbally,
yes,
ma'am
and
if
you'll
please
come
to
the
mic
and
state
your
name
and
address.
R
F
R
I
mean
it's
I
understand
that
everyone
has
to
come
before
it,
but
there
are
limited
special
use
exceptions
available
in
a
specific
district
for
a
reason,
and
with
certainly
without
cause
right
now.
I
would
not
support
adding
a
special
exception
use
to
a
district.
That's
not
in
play
and
seemingly
wouldn't
have
need
to
have
such
a
facility
in
it.
It's
a
residential
area
with
historic
homes
and
businesses
that
are
being
turned
back
into
historic
homes
in
many
instances
with
few
exceptions,
so
I
would
oppose
this
change
as
it
relates
to
the
historic
district.
Thank.
G
R
I'd,
be
honest,
I'm,
not
even
sure,
I
follow
anymore,
because
it
heard
the
definition
of
community
facility
I'm,
not
sure,
I,
completely
understand
what
the
the
nonprofit
community
larger
whatever
the
word
is
in
as
it's
totally
defined
now
as
a
as
amended
but
I'm,
certainly
with
mine,
I,
think
the
statement
mr.
Brannon
made
was
that
flexibility
and
breadth
is
the
best
thing
for
the
community
and
I.
Don't
agree
in
the
context
of
the
historic
district.
Okay.
A
I
You
ready
for
this
all
right
in
the
case
of
our
easy
in
12
18
2
4,
a
request
for
a
text
movement
to
men,
the
text,
the
unified
unified
development
ordinance
in
regards
to
table
three
point:
one
point:
one
I
move
that
we
for
the
table,
one
regarding
clover
Lodge
not
for
profit.
We
add
special
exception
and
just
so
we're
clear,
I'm
going
to
read
the
list.
I
A
special
exception
used
to
H
is
t
re,
10
re,
5,
re
1,
RT
s,
FR,
1,
SF,
r,
2
s,
FR,
3,
SF,
r,
4,
r,
MF,
1
r,
MF
2.
Additionally,
I
move
that
we
amend
the
definition
in
thirteen
point.
One
point:
one
of
clever
Lodge
not
for
profit
to
include
the
word
educational
and,
at
the
end,
change
the
and
to
and/or.
I
A
A
All
right,
then
we're
gonna
move
on
to
we're
jumping
down
again
out
of
order
a
little
bit
we're
gonna
jump
down
to
a
special
exception:
exc
P
1
2
1
8
2,
4
6.
This
is
a
request
for
a
special
exception
use
at
38
35
Forest
Road.
The
current
zoning
is
sfr
single-family
resident
the
proposed
uses
community
facility.
Martin
foreign
oil
is
the
applicant.
The
property
is
located
in
Council
District,
1
Barnes,
mr.
Renfro.
If
you'll,
please
read
the
stop
report.
Yes,.
B
Ma'am
access
is,
or
will
the
type
of
Street
providing
access
to
the
use,
be
adequate
to
serve
the
proposed
special
exception.
New
sparse
road
is
a
mono
arterial
road.
It
will
provide
adequate
free
flow
movement,
traffic
and
pedestrian
safety.
Israel
access
into
and
out
of
the
property,
be
adequate
to
provide
for
traffic
and
pedestrian
safety.
The
anticipated
volume
of
traffic
and
access
by
emergency
vehicles,
access
to
into
and
out
of
the
property
in
question
we
provide
for
adequate
traffic
and
pedestrian
safety.
B
Emergency
at
access
adequacy
of
public
facilities
are
or
will
public
facilities
such
as
school,
water
or
sewer
utilities
and
police
and
fire
protection
be
adequate
to
serve
the
special
exception.
Use
services
such
as
water,
water,
sewer
utilities,
police
and
fire
protection
or
adequate
protection
from
adverse
effects.
B
Excuse
me
are,
will
refuse
service
parking
and
loading
areas
on
the
property
be
located
or
screened
to
protect
other
properties
in
the
area
from
such
adverse
effects
as
noise
like
glare
odor,
the
property
is
surrounded
by
SFR
to
noise,
light
flare
and
odors
should
be
limited
due
to
the
nature
of
the
facility.
Hours
of
operation
will
the
hours
and
manner
of
the
operation
of
the
special
exception
use,
have
no
adverse
effects
on
the
property
in
the
area.
B
The
hours
and
the
hours
of
the
operation
for
this
will
not
have
an
adverse
impact
on
the
neighboring
properties
in
the
area.
Compatibility
all
the
height
size
or
location
of
the
building
or
other
structures
on
the
property
be
compatible
with
the
height
size,
character
or
location
buildings
or
other
structures
on
neighborhood
properties.
The
structure,
height,
size
and
location
should
match
the
uses
found
in
other
SF.
B
Our
properties,
that's
counselor,
district,
1,
barns,
75
property
owners
with
within
300
feet
of
the
property
have
been
notified
by
mill
of
the
proposed
special
exception,
use
the
Planning
Department
and
receive
one
call
in
or
emails
regarding.
This
special
excuse,
exception
use,
and
that
call
was
for
approval
and
there's
no
additional
information.
Thank.
A
J
F
J
Jump
into
the
club,
it's
pretty
gotcha
and
just
informational.
The
the
nature
of
the
club
really
has
gone
more
towards
after-school
programs
and
teen
centers,
where
tutorial
programs
that
are
bringing
the
GPAs
of
these
kids
up
and
that's
been
more
and
more
broad
knees,
focus
and
I.
Think
that's!
What's
gotten
the
school
system
really
behind
trying
to
convert
some
of
these
older
schools
they're,
seeing
the
grade
point
average
of
the
schools
go
up
as
a
result
of
the
tutorial
he's
doing
a
great
job
of
that.
I
I
A
Thank
you
any
comments
or
concerns
of
mr.
Kenner
yeah.
C
I
just
have
a
question
of
staff
just
for
clarification.
The
the
previous
zoning
the
2248
was
was
voted
affirmative
ly
by
this
body,
but
hasn't
been
approved
by
the
council.
Okay,
okay!
Is
there
any?
Can
we
proceed
with
this
without
the
previous,
with
the
prior
approval
of
the
of
the
council
on
22:48?
C
H
F
A
Goes
away
right,
good,
but
that's
a
good
question.
So
thank
you
for
the
clarification.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
come
forward
to
speak
in
favor
of
this
particular
special
exception
and
I
do
not
see
anyone.
Is
there
anyone
who'd
like
to
come
forward
to
speak
against
this
particular
special
exception?
All
right.
There
is
no
one
coming
forward.
So
do
I
have
a
motion
amongst
the
commissioners.
A
Do
I
have
a
second
okay,
mr.
Bollinger,
all
those
in
favor.
Please
raise
your
right
hand
and
it
is
unanimous
so
that
special
exception
will
move
forward.
In
the
event,
everything
else
goes:
we're
gonna
move
to
approve
that
all
right
again,
I'm
gonna,
take
us
out
of
order.
We're
gonna
go
to
the
re
Z
and
1
1
1
8
2,
1
55.
This
is
a
request.
A
Excuse
me
for
a
text
amendment
to
amend
the
text
of
the
you.
Do
the
unified
development
ordinance
in
regards
to
Section
four
point:
six
point:
four:
a
and
4.6.1
to
F
and
three
point.
One
point:
one
is
the
tree
ordinance
and
before
we
read
anything
in
the
staff
report,
this
is
going
to
frustrate
the
applicant
I
know,
but
we
have
a
rule
here
at
the
Commission
that
when
we
are
given
documentation
in
the
morning
that
we're
sitting
up
here,
we
can't
hear
the
case
and
we
were
given
documentation
first
thing
this
morning.
A
With
these
changes,
no
matter
how
minor
they
may
be.
Commissioners,
you
have
a
choice.
You
can
either
table
this
so
that
you
have
an
opportunity
to
understand.
What's
been
given
to
you
and
it
comes
back
before
the
next
Commission
or
you,
you
know
you
deny
it
and
then
the
Planning
goes
on
from
that
Stan
point:
I
move.
A
D
A
Well,
in
its
some
in
some
point
it
might
seem
moot
but
I,
but
our
meetings
are
every
other
month
at
best
and
it
isn't
fair
to
think
that
all
the
commissioners
are
gonna
be
able
to
recollect
what
was
discussed
prior.
So
we
have
to
be
given
an
opportunity
or
you
all
have
to
be
given
an
opportunity
to
review
and
then
go
for
it
and
across
the
board.
We
do
this
for
everybody,
so
we
are
not
allowed
to
receive
documents
the
morning
of
our
meeting,
so
I
did
have
a
motion
to
table
for
mr.
A
Greenblatt
and
I
have
a
second
mr.
king,
all
those
in
favor
of
tabling
this
until
our
next
meeting.
Please
raise
your
right
hand
and
it
is
unanimous,
so
this
will
be
tabled
until
our
next
meeting
and
then
commissioners,
please
make
sure
you
hang
on
to
this
packet.
Take
a
look
at
it
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
contact
the
planning
department,
all
right.
So
that's
going
to
move
us
on
to.
A
Our
last
topic,
which
is
one
that
we
have
been
inundated
with
public
comments
on
so
I'm,
going
to
go
ahead
and
read
this
case.
It's
our
easy
and
0
1
1
9
0
0,
0
7.
This
is
a
request
for
a
text
amendment
to
amend
the
text
of
the
unified
development
ordinance.
The
you
do
in
regards
to
table
3
point
1,
point
1,
which
is
health
and
fitness
facilities.
Mr.
Renfro,
if
you'll
read
the
staff
report
for.
B
A
A
B
A
All
right,
commissioners,
do
you
have
any
questions
just
right
off
the
bat
regarding
the
staff
report?
Okay,
so
are
we
calling
for
mr.
Johnson,
okay,
mr.
Johnson,
if
you'll
come
forward
before
we
call
for
the
apples,
he
just
yeah,
that's
a.
H
Think
y'all
bear
with
us.
I
asked
for
a
PowerPoint.
This
is
a
PDF,
so
John's
over
here
having
to
manually
scroll.
Let
me
tell
you
how
we
got
to
this
point.
This
is
a
presentation
done
by
John
Hutchison
regarding
this
issue
next
slide.
This
is
a
timeline
of
events
of
how
this
started:
August,
18,
building
alterations,
a
permanent
was
applied
for
by
Wayne
gentry
build
builders.
This
is
a
pretty
much
a
warehouse
space,
it's
very
open.
They
did
not
specify
what
the
use
was
for.
H
So
the
codes
and
inspections
department
treated
it
as
what
they
call
a
white
box
which
is
just
a
big
open
space
and
whatever
you're,
adding
so
on
and
so
forth.
On
August
29th,
the
plans
were
approved
by
the
plans
examiner
next
one,
here's
a
copy
of
the
of
that
of
the
permit-
and
it
says
it's
just
installing
bathrooms
next
and
if
this
is
showing
you
where
it
was
installed
in
the
rear,
go
ahead
all
right
her
the
building
code.
H
This
falls
under
three
or
four
point:
one
Business
Group
B,
Business,
Group
B
occupancy
includes,
among
others,
the
use
of
building
or
structure
or
a
portion
thereof
for
office,
professional
or
service
type
transactions,
including
storage
of
Records
and
accounts.
Business
occupancies,
shall
include,
but
not
be
limited
to
the
following
civic
administration.
Civic
administration
is
pretty
much
what's
going
on
next
door
and
the
other
suite
that
is
the
River
Valley
Regional
Commission
on
September
5th
through
October
4th.
All
the
work
was
going
on.
H
H
H
It
is
a
former
dialysis
clinic
and,
as
you
see,
is
surrounded
by
history
building
next
week
this
use
falls
under
the
category
of
health
and
fitness
facility.
As
you
can
see,
it
is
not
allowed
in
the
HISD
district,
so
November
12
I
get
a
system
consitent
complaint
of
the
gym
being
an
operation
at
7:10,
Front
Avenue.
H
Once
we
found
out
the
building
was
owned
by
the
river
valley
and
the
Downtown
Development
Authority.
We
consider
that
a
government
entity
which
in
we
have
always
considered
to
be
exempt
from
zoning,
so
they
were
allowed
in
there.
No
CEO
was
granted
because
SEOs
are
not
granted
on
government
property.
Well,
this
citizen
sent
me
an
email,
I
told
her.
What
our
opinion
was
she
emailed
back
afford
it
to
the
city
attorney.
The
city
attorney
sent
back
case
law.
A
H
The
citizen
loosen
email
and
it
says
he
said
si
had
no
three
so
head
note
three
says
is
only
the
planning
and
their
use
of
land.
A
state
government
and
its
agencies
are
immune
from
operation
of
local
zoning
regulations,
so
I
did
as
I
was,
instructed
and
sent
it
back
to
miss
judge.
Hagler
judge
Hagler
responded
that
she
would
consult
with
the
government
a
familiar
attorney
and
get
back
with
us.
She
did.
She
came
back
with
a
very
compelling
counter
that
was
actually
accurate.
H
H
A
P
H
So,
despite
everything,
that's
gone
out,
I
have
not
stuck
hard
with
I,
have
an
opinion
here
that
some
of
the
issues
we
deal
with
state
in
federal
properties
and
local
properties,
Columbus
State
University.
You
know
they're
operating
chick-fil-a's
subways
things
like
that
out
of
their
thing,
which
is
not
a
primary
governmental
use,
federal
courthouse,
you
don't
go
telling
a
federal
judge
that
if
he
needs
renovations
in
his
courthouse
that
he
has
to
get
a
permit,
that's
just
not
how
it
happens,
so
they
are
exempt
from
permitting
next
one
again
on
November
12th.
H
So
in
these
several
11th,
mrs.
Koval
hits
on
public
agenda
addresses
council
council.
If
you
have
watched
it
that
watch
the
tape
advises
that
we
will
go
into
executive
session
in
executive
session
Council.
Instructs
us
to
move
forward
with
the
text
amendment
instead
of
rezoning,
this
property
to
CR
D.
So
that
is
what
we
have
done
go
to
the
next
one
go
to
the
next.
Oh
we've
back,
though,
I
have
extra
slide.
Sorry.
H
As
it
relates
to
the
River
Valley
and
there's
still
all
this
gray
area
about
what
government
entities
meet
zoning
and
which
ones
don't,
however,
as
it
was
as
it
relates
to
the
Regional
Commission-
and
this
is
state
law,
as
it
relates
only
to
the
regional
commission,
nothing
in
this
article
shall
limit
or
compromise
the
right
of
the
governing
authority
of
any
county
or
municipality
to
exercise
the
power
of
Zoning.
So
anything
they
do
has
to
meet
zoning
under
our
direction
from
Council.
We
have
brought
forward
the
text.
Amendment
change.
A
H
I'd
love
to
rezone
this,
the
hotel
right,
the
Heritage
towers,
the
Trade
Center,
all
of
it
too
Ciardi,
however,
that
historic
district
line
has
been
hard
and
fast
at
ninth
Street,
pretty
much
ever
since
it's
the
historic
districts
inception
and
that's
a
very
touchy
subject
that
I
don't
think
anybody
wants
to
cross
and
this
being
south
of
ninth
Street.
It's
just
not
favorable.
It.
A
C
H
H
A
I
F
H
Based
on
you
know,
familiarity
fee
familiarity
with
the
historic
district,
there's
pretty
much
zero
parking
yeah,
so
that
limits
what
you
can
do,
for
instance,
in
2014
restaurants,
as
a
special
exception
in
historic
district,
were
brought
forward.
This
board
approved
that
option
provision
7th
Street
provisions.
Who
is
there
now?
They
were
not
the
applicant
when
they
came
forward
for
the
special
exception
they
were
going
to
be
denied
because
they
did
not
have
parking.
However,
within
the
you
do
you
have
to
supply
off
street
parking
within
500
feet
of
your
business?
H
They
were
able
to
secure
parking
off
street
parking,
and
so
they
were
approved.
If
you
do
not
have
parking
or
if
you're
going
into
and
impacting.
You
know,
you're
in
a
house
on
Broadway
in
the
middle
of
single-family,
and
you
want
to
open
a
gym
you're
not
going
to
get
that.
That's
the
beauty
of
the
special
exception.
You
don't
have
parking
you're
disrupting
the
neighborhood,
because.
I
H
D
A
A
S
Good
morning,
my
name
is
Fred.
Green
and
I
live
at
7:45
Broadway,
two
other
properties
that
within
the
district,
if
there's
a
and
I,
understand
the
fears
and
concerns
of
some
of
my
friends
and
neighbors,
but
if
there's
ever
a
neighborhood
that
is
appropriate
for
this
type
of
views,
it's
ours,
they're,
constantly
people
running
walking
working
out
all
throughout
our
neighborhood
in
the
adjoining
community,
I
think
with
a
problem
with
the
properly
vetted
special
exception
use.
O
Ernie
Smallman,
6/7,
Street
and
I
agree
with
what
mr.
Green
said
the
special
exception.
The
whole
process
allows
exactly
what
we're
going
through.
Now
you
get
pros
cons,
everybody
gets
lay
out
what
they
their
opinion
and
I
mean
we
work
through
it,
but
our
neighborhood
is
full
of
activity
and
I've
heard.
You
know
comments
that
other
neighborhoods
don't
have
gyms
well,
Green
Allen
has
two
gyms,
they
have
a
yoga
studio
and
they
have
a
gym
and
the
country
club.
So
it's
not
out
of
the
ordinary
for
this
to
take
place
in
our
neighborhood
I.
A
Thank
you
and
I
want
to
re-emphasize
what
I
said
in
the
very
beginning
about
I
I
know
that
a
lot
of
people
want
to
be
heard,
but
by
the
same
token,
I
can't
have
everybody
come
forward.
So
if
there
is
another
person
who
has
anything
other
than
just
you
approve
of
it,
if
you've
got
something
that
we
need
to
hear,
that's
fine,
but
I
will
just
say,
maybe,
for
the
sake
of
letting
everyone
just
sort
of
feel
like
they've
been
heard.
A
If
you
are
in
favor
of
this
and
you
are
in
the
audience,
if
you
would
like
to
raise
your
hand
and
let
us
have
some
sort
of
a
visual
raise
your
hand
for
me
if
you're
in
favor
of
it,
okay,
so
I
don't
know
if
I
can
get
the
camera
to
pan
out
to
the
audience.
I
don't
know
if
he
can
hear
me,
but
commissioners,
that
kind
of
gives
you
an
idea
of
you
see
the
hands
that
are
up
out
there.
So
thank
you
for
that.
A
I
am
going
to
move
now
and,
and
is
there
anyone
else
that
has
something
that
we
haven't
heard.
I.
Don't
need
to
hear
that
you
agree,
but
is
there
anything
else
that,
in
terms
of
approval,
if
there's
something
that
we
need
to
know
about?
Okay,
this
is
something
we
haven't
heard
already.
This
does
not
have
to
do
with
disapproval.
This
has
to
do
with
approval.
Okay,
if
you'll
come
forward
and
state
your
name
and
address.
M
F
M
For
me
and
I
can
walk
into
Phoenix
City
for
that
I'm.
Also,
an
environmental
scientist
and
I
do
a
lot
of
my
work
in
Columbus,
Georgia
and
I
a
complete
letter
to
the
council.
That
gives
even
more
background
to
talk
and
read
at
a
different
date,
but
I'm
just
proud
of
the
direction
Columbus
has
taken
over
the
last
several
years
to
create
a
work
we
have
in
play.
Atmosphere
within
our
new
and
existing
communities.
I
do
a
lot
of
work
in
North
Columbus,
where
we're
building
new
communities
do
summer
in
the
west
and
east.
M
This
particular
one
is.
We
are
utilizing
a
vacant
space
with
already
parking
already
the
building
itself
and
if
we're
utilizing
vacant
space
for
progress
and
growth
instead
of
impacting
our
natural
resources,
then
that
statement
is
for
me
is
how
Columbus
is
the
citizens
of
Columbus
and
the
government
of
Columbus
is
striving
to
emulate
to
the
surrounding
area
that
this
is
what
progress
has
preserved,
so
we're
not
going
out
and
demolishing
the
trees,
our
natural
resources
and
speaking
of
natural
resources.
The
most
people
in
that
gym
come
out
and
help
me
I.
M
Do
a
lot
of
volunteer
work
here
in
Columbus,
they
come
out
on
an
annual
basis
with
me
to
clean
up
the
historic
district
to
clean
up
the
Riverwalk
the
watershed.
So
it's
not
just
about
creating
a
stronger
gym
community.
It's
also
about
that
gym
community
is
not
is
coming
out
and
creating
a
stronger
community
for
everyone
as
whole,
so
I
do
approve
of
this
and
I
just
wanna
make
sure
everybody
knew
that
and
some
of
the
personal
data
that
I
have
is
in
my
letter
that
I
sent
out
earlier
says
well.
A
Thank
you,
I
wasn't
expecting
to
hear
an
environmental
take
on
it.
So
that's
interesting!
Thank
you
very
much.
So
now
I'm
gonna
move
to
ask
if
there
is
anyone
who
is
against
this
proposal
and
if
you
would
raise
your
hand
for
me
if
you
want
to
come
forward
to
speak
so
I
get
an
idea
of
what
I'm
dealing
with
okay.
So
if
the
lady
in
the
back
I
saw
your
hand
go
up
first,
if
you'll
come
forward
and
state
your
name
and
address
and
give
us
an
overview
of
your
opposition.
L
Good
morning
my
name
is
fran
Poole
carpenter
I
live
at
738.
Broadway
I
also
recently
purchased
a
piece
of
property
on
a
home
on
sixth
Street,
that
is
in
very
poor
condition
after
having
been
a
rental
property
for
many
years,
and
my
plan
is
to
renovate
that
property
and
improve
it.
I
guess
I
sort
of
have
some
questions
as
well
as
as
a
statement.
I
do
I
understand
that
if
this
special
exception
is
approved
that
I'm
sorry
that
if
the
you
do
has
changed
that
the
special
exception
would
require
parking.
L
Because
I,
my
concern
is
not
about
this
particular
location.
This
particular
location
does
have
parking.
It
is
a
commercial
building
already
and
and
I'm,
not
that
concerned
about
this
going
there.
If
there
were
some
other
way
to
do
it,
I
would
feel
like
that
was
a
better
solution,
but
I'm
concerned
about
facilities
like
this
popping
up
throughout
the
neighborhood
they're
already
four
or
five
workout
facilities
in
the
central
business
district,
two
blocks
from
where
we
live.
L
You
know
we
heard
the
gentleman
earlier
say
that
one
of
the
things
we're
trying
to
do
with
these
neighborhoods
is
to
have
residential
areas
adjacent
to
businesses
that
people
can
walk
to
and
that's
what
we
do
in
our
neighborhood.
That's
why
we
move
there
so
that
we
could
live
in
a
residential
area,
but
have
easy
walkable
access
to
these
kind
of
wonderful
amenities
that
we
have
in
the
Uptown
business
district
and
but
there's
of
an
apartment,
building
located
right
next
door.
To
my
home,
we've
made
a
sizable
investment
to
live
in
that
home.
L
That
apartment
building
is
not
well
taken
care
of
it's
getting
old,
there's
nothing
historic
about
it.
What
would
keep
this
building
if
somebody
came
and
bought
it
and
decided
to
tear
it
down
and
build
a
facility
there
there's
a
parking
lot.
Would
there
be
anything
that
would
keep
them
from
being
able
to
build
a
health
and
fitness
facility
next
door?
To
my
house?
L
That's
a
concern
to
me
and
there
are
other
neighbors
who
have
invested
a
lot
of
money
in
restoring
their
homes,
who
have
the
same
concerns
about
making
this
a
wholesale
decision
for
our
entire
historic
district
and
I
would
like
for
you
to.
Please
take
that
into
consideration
when
you
make
your
decision
today.
Thank.
I
I
ask
a
question
to
staff:
if
any,
because
of
that
I
mean
that
is
a
very
good
point
about
someone
buying
another
facility.
Obviously
the
special
exception
rules
would
apply,
but
in
this
district
bihar
would
also
have
architectural
review
on
anything
that
goes
in,
especially
in
a
tear
down
and
rebuild
I.
I
H
I
A
Want
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear
on
that
those
of
us
some
folks
might
not
know
that
is
there.
So
the
the
woman
who
came
forward
spoke
in
opposition,
so
I'm
gonna
ask
the
same
question
that
I
asked
earlier
for
those
of
you
who
are
in
the
audience
that
are
opposed
to
this
ordinance.
If
you
would
raise
your
hand
so
that
we
can
see
who's
here
amongst
us
who
is
opposed
to
it,
so
a
larger
number,
okay,
mr.
Wrenn,
first
counting
keep
your
hands
up.
Did
you
get.
F
A
Mm-Hmm
he
counted
last
time
yeah,
so
I
do
want
to
ask
this.
What
just
of
the
audience?
How
many
do
we
have
in
favor
eleven
are
in
favor
and
how
many
are
opposed:
thirteen,
thirteen,
okay,
all
right
and
I'm
going?
Is
there
anyone
in
opposition
who
has
any
information
outside
of
just
agreeing
with
the
opposition?
Is
there
any
other
information
that
we
need
to
hear?
P
A
P
The
issues
that
came
about
with
staff
and
I
do
understand
that
understanding
the
legal
ramifications
that
there
are
details
that
slip
through
the
cracks
and
we
need
to
get
it
straight,
but
how
this
has
been
handled
in
the
email
change
that
had
been
going
on.
I
am
Not
sure
that
that
is
the
way
this
committee
is
supposed
to
be
communicated
with,
and
it
does
concern
me
that
we
get
the
detailed
information
from
all
these
individuals.
I
believe
that
should
go
through
staff
and
and
I
understand
the
concerns
and
I
understand
the
way
this
came
about.
G
Just
have
one
question
of
clarity:
sure
I'm
for
John,
just
to
be
sure,
I'm
correct
on
this.
With
the
way
the
PowerPoint
slash
PDF
was
presented,
the
the
individual
run
in
the
gym
was
under
the
impression
that
they
had
all
the
necessary
permissions
needed
by
the
city
to
move
forward
right.
They
did
yes,
sir,
and
that
individual
made
some
financial
investments
in
this
facility
under
the.
G
A
Signs
a
lease
to
go
into
a
business.
It
is
that
business
owners
responsibility,
100
percent.
Do
you
know
what
they
are
signing
a
lease
for
and
that
they
are
in
compliance
for
it?
You
cannot
rely
on
your
realtor.
You
can't
rely
on
your
neighbor
and
in
this
case
you
weren't
able
to
rely
on
the
city.
It
is
the
business
owners
responsibility
to
know
that
they
are
signing
a
lease
and
opening
a
business
and
something
that
they
are
zoned
for.
I
I
What
I'm
saying
is
is
for
purposes
of
I
mean
you
had
the
out
the
paper
application
on
file,
but
but
in
reality
this
is
a
request
of
counsel
/.
The
Planning
Department
I,
just
wanna
make
sure
that
we're
yes,
that
we're
able
to
hear
because
there's
questions
about
the
completeness
of
the
okay
underlying
application
and
all
this
that
in
the
other.
But
if
it's
a
request
of
the.
G
F
H
G
Mean
what
I'm
getting
to
is
ultimately,
what
we
decide
today,
whether
it's
in
favor
of
it
or
not,
City
Council
has
the
final
decision,
so
if
they
decide
to
bring
this
for
is
clearly
someone
just
wanted
to
put
it
in
motion
to
go
through
all
the
proper
legal
steps
so
that
when
it
gets
to
them,
they
can
make
a
decision
well.
So
if
they
know
where
they
want
to
go
with
this,
just
let
us
know
so
we
cuz.
Ultimately
they
can
override
whatever
we
say
you,
you
are.
H
A
I
A
Ok,
so
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
and
I
have
a
second
all
of
those
in
favor
of
approving
this.
Please
raise
your
right
hand,
so
I
have
three
all
of
those
opposed.
Please
raise
your
right
now.
One
two
three
four
so
have
four
that
are
opposed,
so
this
will
actually
go
forward
with
a
recommendation
directive.
A
A
A
A
Q
A
C
A
All
those
in
favor
of
denial
raise
your
right
hand
all
right
all
those
who
are
not
in
favor
of
the
denial
all
right,
so
it
is
moving
forward
as
a
denial
request
for
denial.
Well,
that
was
nice
and
confusing
all
right.
That's
all
of
our
cases.
We
do
have
new
business,
which
is
a
lection
of
the
new
officers
for
the
chairperson
and
the
vice
chair,
because
I
am
rolling
off
the
end
of
march
and
your
vice
chair
at
Kenner
is
rolling
off
what
mr.
Greenblatt.
Madam.
P
A
We
have
on
the
table
Ralph
king,
to
be
elected
as
chair
and
Bobby
Bollinger,
as
vice
chair,
do
I
have
a
second
in
it.
I
do
have
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
of
electing
Ralph
King
as
chair
and
Bobby
Bollinger
is
vice
chair.
Please
raise
your
right
hand
and
all
those
opposed
are
you
voting,
or
what
do
you
know
not
voting?
Okay,.