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From YouTube: July 13, 2023, Public Works, Ordinance, and Special Safety Services & Licenses Committee Meetings
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July 13, 2023
Public Works Committee
Ordinance Committee
Special Safety Services & Licenses Committee
A
B
B
C
A
B
Thank
you
on
the
agenda.
Is
the
committee
on
business
matters
carried
over,
that
is
2-23-03,
that's
ordinance
and
amendment
of
chapter
15
of
the
code
of
the
city
of
France
in
2005,
entitled
buildings
and
construction
polls,
relocation
sponsored
by
councilman
Donegan.
This
was
continuing
as
amended
and
by
welcome
any
motions
on
the
floor.
E
F
I
believe
from
the
email
that
we
received
this
evening
through
the
through
the
clerk
for
the
meeting
that
Council
excuse
me,
councilman
Don
again
is
seeking
to
amend
this
so
that
it
includes
the
fine
as
being
up
to
one
hundred
dollars.
So
if
perhaps
our
councilman
Ferry
wants
to
withdraw
his
motion
to
approve
and
then
we
can
have
a
motion
to
amend
along
those
lines
in
discussion.
F
B
H
B
I
Green
is
on
okay,
my
name
is
Matthew
Pepino
I
live
at
33
welfare,
Ave
and
good
evening.
Members
of
the
Public
Works
committee
I'm
here
this
evening,
because
after
talking
with
councilwoman
Vargas
yesterday,
who
invited
me
to
make
a
comment
at
this
meeting,
there's
an
issue
on
my
street
that
I
wanted
to
just
bring
to
the
attention
of
the
committee
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
the
streets
were
repaved.
Excuse
me,
and
in
doing
so
there
were
accessibility.
I
Ramps
put
on
each
corner
of
the
intersections
in
the
neighborhood
seems
that
when
that
was
done,
when
we've
been
having
these
rain
events
and
not
just
the
one
this
week
or
the
one
on
Labor
Day,
which
are
kind
of
the
two
big
ones.
Lately,
the
water
is
not
only
flowing
down
the
street,
but
because
the
accessibility
ramps
are
a
little
bit
higher
and
the
street
is
actually
higher
too.
The
water
is
now
flowing
down
the
sidewalk
in
addition
to
the
streets,
so
there's
Street
water
coming
down
the
sidewalk.
It
is
a
slight
decline.
I
So
what's
happening
is
the
water
is
coming
down
the
street
and
coming
down
the
sidewalk
and
the
way
that
our
house
is
set
up,
the
driveway
pitches
into
and
under
the
house
garage
it's
not
a
huge
pitch,
but
it's
a
pitch
and
so
what's
been
happening.
Is
water
has
been
coming
from
the
sidewalk
down
the
driveway
and
into
the
garage
and
then
subsequently
into
the
basement?
I
I
We've
done
some
re-landscaping
and,
as
you
can
imagine,
none
of
this
is
inexpensive,
but
with
this
latest
storm
that
we
had
on
Monday,
even
with
the
permeable
paver
driveway
that
we
have
because
the
water
is
not
just
coming
from
the
sky
and
it's
coming
from
the
sidewalk,
it's
still
making
a
diversion
down
the
driveway
I'm.
Obviously
not
an
engineer,
but
I
happen
to
serve
on
the
Cranston
flood
committee
from
2011
to
2016.
I,
don't
know!
I
If
any
of
you
remember
me,
I
know,
there's
sometimes
a
change
of
regard,
but
you
know,
matters
of
this
concern
have
always
been
important
to
me.
I've
been
a
resident
of
Cranston
for
many
many
years
and
I
think
there
may
be
some
solutions
to
this
one,
possibly
being
some
type
of
you
know,
small
re-engineering,
where
the
accessibility
ramp
is
either
raised,
or
perhaps
the
a
little
bit,
maybe
of
a
a
hump,
so
to
speak
so
that
it's
not
as
flat,
it
would
be
wonderful.
I
I
You
know
drainage
is
a
larger
issue,
but
the
the
current
one
is
more
specific
to
that
intersection.
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
this
attention
to
this
committee,
because
I'd
like
to
you
know,
put
our
heads
together
figure
out
what
can
be
done.
The
streets
look
great.
The
handicap
ramps
look
wonderful
too,
but,
like
I
said
now,
there's
been
just
this
new
issue
that
has
been
created.
B
Thank
you
so
much
because
it's
a
public
comment.
We
can't
actually
have
an
actual
conversation,
but
no
no
so,
but
we
so
we
can
have
a
conversation,
but
we
can
actually
have
it
under
Council
Communications.
So,
unfortunately,
just
as
much
as
I'd
like
to
answer
some
of
your
questions
and
refer
to
the
administration
I'll
hold
off
until
we
get
onto
console
Communications,
this
may
actually
fall
under
the
council
communication,
not
only
the
one
that
I
actually
have
under
like
drainage
and
storm
water,
but
obviously
council.
B
B
F
The
Narragansett
electric
could
be
a
subsidiary
of
Rhode
Island
energy
oftentimes.
There
are
numerous
companies,
so
perhaps
that
is
I
don't
know
all
I
know
is
the
petition
before
us
is
under
the
letterhead
of
Rhode
Island
energy
and
make
specific
mention
of
the
narragans
and
electric.
So
perhaps
they
are
the
owners
of
the
poll.
J
B
E
I
have
some
reserve
for
that,
because
I'm
not
clear
if
it's
I
understand
the
what
council
president
has
said,
but
I
move
Verizon,
New,
England,
EMC
nagar
inside
electric,
so
I
would
like
to
have
someone
form.
This
company
explain
that
because
I,
if
not
without
any
energy,
so
I'm,
not
in
favor
to
vote
for
that,
as
is
right
now,
because
I'm
not
clear.
B
If
there's
any
discrepancy,
or
do
you
see
that
this
is
okay
for
us
to
prove?
If
it's
on
different
letter
I
mean
the
letterhead
is
dated,
June
June,
5th
2003
I
would
assume
that
someone
putting
come
come
in
before
us,
particularly
under
an
office
like
Rhode
Island
energy
would
actually
have
all
their
ducks
in
a
row
before
submitting
to
us.
G
But
yeah
I
I
think
it's
probably
it's
more
Pro
former
than
it
is
substantive.
It
seems
I
I'm
only
aware
of
Rhode
Island
energy
I'm,
not
aware
of
anything
else.
It
could
be
maybe
scriveness
on
their
part
or
I.
Think
we
all
know
what
the
intention
is.
So
if
it
becomes
a
problem
later
on,
we
can
certainly
revisit
it,
but
it
shouldn't
hold
up
anything
now.
No.
B
J
J
A
B
A
E
Hi
so,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
okay,
few
days,
one
of
the
matters.
That
was
what
into
your
attention
that
being
resolved.
Thank
you
to
14..
Yes,
looks
great,
it
looks
great
right,
so
we
we
really
don't
want
to
continue
to
have
all
of
those
things
happening
and
have
people
cried
out
for
cleanliness
in
our
city
and
I
happen
to
take
a
walk
until
Park
Avenue,
the
intersection.
E
Tune
again
set
up
all
this
side,
work
and
I
know
those
are
povertis
that
full
of
trash
and
debris
and
bushes,
and
that
is
inacceptable
So,
based
on
what
we
discussed
last
meeting
about
the
properties
that
has
been
unkept
by
the
owners
and
I
would
like
to
to
hear
what
has
been
put
in
place.
Since
then
I
know
you
do
some
work.
Was
this
city
doing
it
or
the
owner?
So
that's
my
question.
Yeah.
K
Actually,
in
both
of
those
cases,
it
was
actually
the
owners
that
took
the
initiative
soon
after
we
followed
up,
and
there
was
movement
in
the
right
direction.
So
those
properties
all
looking
better,
particularly
that
one
in
terms
of
the
any
Trash
along
Park
Avenue
happy
to
have
DPW
to
go
out
there
probably
next
week
and
address
that
I.
Think
you're
right,
Park
Avenue
is
a
is
a
main
therapy
main
city
street.
It
should
be
right
that
it's
clean
and
and
free
of
vegetation,
so
we
be
sure
that
they'll
go
by
it's.
E
The
whole
form
right
down
in
the
intersection
it's
I
I
was
stunned
to
see
that
it's
like
no
one
lived
and
we
have
a
lot
of
businesses
and
that's
one
of
the
things.
If
we
do
businesses
I'm
looking
at
I'm
working
on
this
side,
work
ordinance
right
now,
but
I,
it's
it's
inacceptable!
It's
your
poverty!
It's
your
business!
It
should
be
clean,
it's
it's
insulting
for
the
customers
as
well.
You
know
you
going
to
buy
something
and
you
you
enter
it's
trash
everywhere,
bushes
everywhere
it
is
insulting.
K
Unfortunately,
that's
bad
human
behavior
difficult
to
correct
in
order
to
find
people
to
enforce
the
laws
they
have
to
be
found
littering
they
have
to
be
cited
when
it
happens
beyond
that,
we
have
to
just
react
and
clean
up
the
mess,
but
it
is.
Social
engineering
is
the
biggest
challenge
we
have
in
the
city.
In
many
of
these
issues,.
K
I
would
have
to
check
with
them
with
minimum
housing,
but
a
lot
of
times,
for
instance,
in
the
areas
you
mentioned.
Perhaps
we
could
we,
we
could
take
care
of
it.
Regrettably,
but
certainly
you
can
pass
that
on
to
our
economic
development
director
to
pop
into
those
businesses
and
ask
them
to
take
more
Pride.
Frankly,
we'll
be
driving
down.
We
did
a
nice
job
there,
as
you
know,
together
on
Pontiac,
Avenue,
Ralph,
Street
and
there's
a
couple
of
businesses
that
just
leave
their
mess
out
in
front.
K
E
K
What
it
is
inspections,
minimum
housing,
it's
violations
on
their
properties.
So
if
there's
debris
on
the
city,
sidewalks
direct
attorney
the
solicitor
right
here.
Okay,
then
I
know
that
guy
John,
but
he
can
comment
but
I
believe
that
is
the
city
responsibility
in
that
respect,
that
just
I
don't
think
they
can
be
cited
on
city
property
unless
I'm
unless
I'm
wrong.
E
E
So
what
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that,
because
it's
so
dirty,
so
we
I
I,
you
know
it's
summer,
I
I
take
a
work
a
while
in
the
neighborhood
I,
don't
know
for
other
places,
but
why
inward
to
it's
really
dirty
and
this
isn't
acceptable.
Thank
you,
Madame
click.
We
want
to
continue
this
money
for
the
next
meeting.
G
What
direct
what
the
director
said
as
far
as
imputing
responsibility
to
an
adjacent
landowner
is
really
turns
on
a
lot
of
things,
clearly
they're
responsible
to
maintain
their
property.
If
they
don't,
they
can
be
cited
if
it
rises
to
the
level
of
a
nuisance
that
becomes
even
more
serious.
Okay
now
the
difficulty
I
think
sometimes
is
trying
to
draw
the
line
between
what
is
genuinely
their
litter
versus
just
the
public
at
lodge
I
mean
somebody
walks
by
and
throws
something
on
the
sidewalk.
You
can't
blame
the
business
owner
for
that
now.
G
You
can,
however,
sometimes
there'll
be
circumstantial
evidence.
For
instance,
you
walk
by
a
business
and
there's
a
bunch
of
stuff
on
the
sidewalk.
Maybe
it's
an
ice
cream
place.
I'll
just
choose
that,
and
you
see
a
bunch
of
large
ice
cream
containers
and
they're
out
on
the
sidewalk.
Even
though
that's
city
property,
you
can
draw
the
inference
that
that
stuff
came
from
inside
the
business,
so
they
should
be
liable.
So
that's
why
I'm
saying
it's
it's
pretty
fact:
intensive
you'd
have
to
do
a
little
bit
of
investigating
a
little
bit
of
digging.
G
E
Why
I
call
you
in
because
I
am
not
clear:
I'm,
not
a
lawyer,
so
I'm
I'm
reading
the
ordinance
around
side
work,
repairing
and
all
of
those
things,
because
I'm
working
on
an
ordinance
and
it's
we
Levi
and
and
that's
why
I
want?
Where
is
the
line?
Where
is
the
line?
What,
as
a
city
we
should
do
and
which
we
did
that
and
what
should
the
responsibility
of
the
owners
or
so
I
want
to
clear
information
to
know?
Where
is
the
light
John
here?
Well,.
G
I
think
the
line
is
you
start
with
visit
city
property?
Is
it
individual
property?
That's
the
first
step.
Second
step
is:
where
is
the
litter?
Where
is
it
located
both
one
or
the
other?
Okay,
the
final
step
is:
if
it's
on
the
individuals
that's
easy,
because
then
they
can
be
cited
and
they
can
be
ordered
to
clean
it
by
the
court.
However,
if
it's
over
the
line
in
its
public
now,
unless
you
can
prove
that
the
source
was
from
that
individual
or
that
business,
it's
going
to
be
up
to
the
city
to
clean
that.
L
G
That
correct
that,
as
far
as
yes,
you're,
correct
and
there's
also
an
ordinance
which,
and
it
hasn't
been
tested
as
to
whether
or
not
it
has
been
tested
in
court,
because
I
have
my
own
views
on
whether
or
not
you
can
make
individuals
liable
to
repair
city-owned
property.
That's
another
issue,
but
we
do
have
in
addition
to
the
snow
removal
ordinance.
We
do
have
a
sidewalk
repair
ordinance
as
well,
which
places
subject
to
certain
conditions,
the
responsibility
to
maintain
that
sidewalk
on
the
adjacent
landowner
too.
So
this
two
audiences.
G
Snow,
yes
automatically
the
repair
part
of
it,
it's
a
little
more
nuanced.
Sometimes
it's
50
50.
If
I
recall
the
way
the
ordinance
reads.
Sometimes
it's
not
it's
a
little
different
than
the
snow
removal.
The
snow
removal
is
categorically
if
the
snow
is
on
the
sidewalk
in
front
of
your
business.
You
have
to.
L
G
L
G
Those
snow
removal
ordinances
because
I
did
quite
a
bit
of
research
on
those
they
have
been
upheld
throughout
the
country.
For
the
most
part,
the
Rhode
Island
Supreme
Court
has
done
it
in
a
roundabout
way,
because
what
the
Rhode
Island
Supreme
Court
said.
What
was
happening
is
this.
So
there's
an
ordinance
saying:
I
have
to
keep
the
sidewalk
clear
in
front
of
my
house:
okay,
I,
don't
do
it.
Somebody
comes
by
they
slip
and
they
fall.
They
get
hurt.
They
sue
me
on
the
basis.
G
I
didn't
comply
with
the
ordinance
the
Rhode,
Island,
Supreme
Court,
said:
okay,
you
can
enact
that
ordinance
and
tell
them
to
remove
the
snow.
However,
if
they
don't
do
it,
they
cannot
be
sued,
so
they
in
a
roundabout
way.
They
kind
of
said
that,
in
other
words,
they
didn't
categorically
come
out
and
say
you
can't
have
that
type
of
ordinance.
What
they
said
was
you
can
have
the
ordinance,
but
if
somebody
doesn't
do
it
and
you
you
want
to
cite
them,
I
guess,
that's
fine.
F
Just
on
this
topic,
I
just
want
to
point
out.
Sometimes
it
is
the
businesses
that
have
the
trash.
Sometimes
businesses
are
the
unfortunate
recipient
of
the
trash,
because
people
who
have
their
you
know
garbage
people
who
are
doing
construction
work
on
their
own
and
don't
have
a
means
that
they
don't
want
to
pay
for
to
dump
the
material.
They
will
just
find
a
business
at
night
when
no
one's
there
and
dump
it
so
just
be
considerate
of
even
though
you
may
see
trash
or
things
that
don't
belong.
F
It's
not
always
the
business's
fault,
just
as
is
the
case
with
residents
where
we
get
calls
where
there's
a
mattress
outside
of
somebody's
house,
because
someone
just
dumped
it
there
and
that's
a
that's
another
issue
so,
like
attorney
verdeckia
had
mentioned.
Sometimes
it's
circumstantial,
sometimes
it's
more
clear
that
it
comes
from
the
you
know:
neighboring
property.
But
it's
not
always
the
case.
A
E
Yes,
so
what
I
bought
here
is
not
to
blame.
Somebody
I
want
to
have
a
clear
path
to
solve
the
problem,
because
the
the
the
trash,
the
unkept
property
is
not
it's
not
good,
so
we
need
to
come
as
this
city.
That's
why
I
asked
the
question
to
know
exactly
because
I
was
waiting
so,
as
I
said,
I'm
working
on
the
ordinance
and
I
and
I
hope
everybody
will
be.
E
We
cannot
do
it
all
of
us
at
the
same
time,
but
as
I
wear
those
ordinances,
there's
languages
that
is
really
to
be
removed
completely,
but
I
saw
if
a
sidewalk
has
not
been
repaired.
It's
if,
if
the
homeowner
did
don't
do
it
is
the
duty
of
the
Public
Works
to
do
it
and
then
have
the
course
go
to
this
the
tax
or
access,
not
the
accessories,
the
children
to
see
the
cause
they
have
to
do
it.
So
that's
we
need
to
know
who
is
accountable
here.
E
B
B
K
J
B
A
B
For
those
who
don't
know
what
it
is
is
an
actual
just
it's
it's
a
trash
can
that's
covered
up,
it's
it's
solar
power
powered
and
it
compresses
down
the
trash.
So
particularly
in
areas
where
it's
high
traffic,
like
say,
businesses,
I'll,
stick
with,
say:
patuxa
Village
as
an
example,
people
dump
trash
in
there
it's
covered
and
it
reduces
the
amount
of
time
that
the
city
may
have
to
even
go
out
in
terms
of
picking
up
the
actual
trash,
because
it's
compressing
it
down.
So
my
question
is
I.
M
Yeah,
so
we
have
looked
into
these
big
belly
trash
cans
and
just
to
give
some
more
information
on
what
you've
already
explained.
Basically,
these
are
solar
powered
units
that
compact
trash
to
hold
five
times
and
more
unit
as
their
full
is
a
sensor
inside
that
sends
a
message
to
DPW,
saying
I'm
full.
Please
come
Empty
Me.
M
M
A
Needham
company
tried
to
solve
the
problem
for
urban
garbage
with
solar
powered
bins,
but
it
wasn't
a
clear-cut
solution
and
it
just
talks
about
some
problems
that
they've
had
with
the
bins
in
Needham
as
well
as
Boston
in
another
article
from
out
of
Newport
from
Newport
this
week
with
the
headline
big
belly
trash
bins
raise
a
stink.
The
problem
that
they're
having
over
there
is
larger
items
that
are
trying
to
be
stuffed
into
these
bins
are
clogging
the
systems
and
jamming
it.
M
Making
the
sensor
render
useless
and
DPW
never
gets
the
update
to
empty
that
bin.
That's
the
flaws
that
they've
seen
mostly,
and
they
also
as
far
as
the
rat
situation.
I
agree:
this
would
be
a
good
solution
to
get
rats
out
of
City
Tippy
cans,
but
I
think
the
the
rat
problem
it
would.
It
would
help,
but
that
would
not
be
a
vast
majority
of
the
Rat
bomb
in
the
city.
I
think
a
lot
of
those
problems
coming
from
dumpsters
or
grease
traps
from
from
Resident
from
restaurants.
B
Right
sure
so,
they're
also
covered
trash
cans
that
are
not
solar
powered.
Is
there
possibly
the
need,
possibly
the
the
option
for
us
to
even
look
into
that
in
areas
again,
I'm
talking
about
Patuxent
Village,
still
a
house
code,
that's
the
other
reason
why
I
added
it
on
here
there's
an
overflow
of
trash
taking
place
over
there.
I've
had
neighbors
reaching
out
to
me
not
sure
what
your
trash
pickup
schedule
is
as
of
today.
B
I
know
what
it
was
when
I
asked
the
same
question
probably
about
a
year
ago,
if
it
wasn't
last
summer,
maybe
the
summer
before
that
curious
to
know
what
you
have
on
your
end
in
terms
of
what
the
schedule
for
pickup
is
and
that's
the
reason
why
I
started
talking
about
just
covered
trash
cans
to
prevent
any
type
of
overflow
if
possible
and
I
just
bought
a
solar
powered.
One
would
be
great,
however,
technology
you're
saying
it's
not
working,
but
just
having
then
a
trash
can
that
is
actually
closed.
B
M
We
do
have
lids
on
the
trash
cans.
They're
not
closed,
like
a
residential
trash
can
with
a
lid
that
opens
and
closed.
There
is
a
dome
over
them
which
protects
from
weather,
so
the
bags
don't
get
full
of
water
and
there's
also
a
rim
around
it
to
prevent
rodents
from
getting
under
it
as
well
as
climbing
up
it
and
getting
inside
of
it.
So
we
do
try
to
prevent
that
right
now.
Something
I
forgot
to
mention
about
these
trash
cans
is
the
expense
of
them.
They're
about
two
to
four
thousand
dollars
per
bin.
M
B
It
but
they're
not
expensive,
but
they're
not
solid
operated
and
they
have
lids
on
them,
and
so
in
Patuxent
Village
and
in
your
still
house,
Cove.
They
don't
they're,
not
actually
all
covered,
as
you're
saying
so.
I
would
really
suggest
the
administration
to
give
that
a
look.
Absolutely
because
to
your
point,
yes,
I
get.
The
the
solar
ones
are
very
expensive.
B
What
I,
don't
think
is
as
expensive
is
just
actually
putting
an
actual
lid
on
the
trash
cans,
and
maybe
they
have
them
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
but
not
in
those
neck
of
the
woods.
So,
if
you
don't
mind
through
the
administration,
if
we
can
actually
send
someone
down
there
to
give
that
a
look
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
maybe
look
at
the
different
type
of
trash
can
options
that
we
can
over
there.
What
is
the
schedule
of
pickup
by
the
way?
It's
still
a
house
code?
Yes,.
M
B
B
H
B
But
that
one's
every
day
correct
all
right,
I
would
disagree
with
that
statement,
because
there's
an
overflow
going
on
there's
been
some
residents
who
have
actually
put
some
gloves
on
and
picked
up
the
trash
around
it
I
understand
it's
also
this
summer
and
there's
a
lot
of
overflow
taking
place.
There's
just
you
know,
people
walking
things
along
those
lines
but
to
say
that
we
have
Highway
going
every
day.
B
There
right
great,
thank
you,
I
appreciate
it.
The
next
item
that
I
have
on
here
director
Marty.
This
might
be
for
you
unless
it's
for
Justin
as
well,
it's
the
hiring
of
the
Public
Works
director
I,
believe
you
know
we
had
one
retired.
We
had
an
we
formation
of
the
appointment
that
came
before
us.
I
believe
he's
left
the
city.
K
April
position
has
been
posted
with
City
website
working
with
the
League
of
cities
and
towns.
Indeed,
so
we're
trying
to
recruit
it
isn't
not
the
easiest
thing.
In
fact,
you
might
recall
the
last
time
we
did
hire
Public
Works
director.
It
was
I
believe
one
applicant
and
the
person
did
receive
the
two
applicants
and
the
person
did
receive
the
the
position
they
offer.
K
K
We
want
to
give
it
another
stretch,
maybe
another
month
or
so.
We
have
a
couple
of
ideas,
because
there
is
a
stress
on
the
public
works
department.
Mr
matuse
is
is
an
acting
public
Orchestra,
but
he
was
a
chief
engineer
that
basically
he's
trying
to
do
two
jobs
and
we're
setting
him
up
to
fail
to
be
honest
with
you,
anybody
him
or
anyone
else
to
do
that,
especially
during
peak
season.
So
we
you're
right.
K
K
K
B
K
K
B
D
K
B
B
B
Welfare
in
Parkman
Street
here
not
too
far
from
City
Hall.
The
administration
also
received
an
email.
They
also
forwarded
probably
ongoing
since
May,
which
has
to
do
with
director.
Already.
If
you
recall,
the
email
is
from
Lakeside
Avenue,
which
is
right
near
Park,
View,
Middle,
School,
there's
Fenner
pond,
that's
right
behind
the
the
resident,
and
there
was
some
overflowing
going
taking
place
over
there
as
as
a
lot
of
things
been
happening
in
development
and
I.
I
have
a
few
questions.
B
B
But
what
to
the
director
or
to
our
interim
Public
Works
director
just
had
a
couple
of
questions
in
terms
of
the
city's
drainage
kind
of
a
stormwater
plan
or
sewer
overloads
that
are
taking
place
throughout
the
entire
city.
What
I?
What
I
do
know
is
that
there
are
there's
blockage,
that's
taken
place
and
I
know
a
lot
of
that,
particularly
is
probably
due
to
debris
that
is
going
down
and
possibly
blocking
the
catch
basins
or
the
inlets
that
are
in
the
actual
Road
I'm
trying
to
figure
out.
B
Do
we
as
a
city?
What
is
the
process
on
even
clearing
up
any
of
the
sewer,
the
storm
sewers
that
we
have
around
the
city
to
possibly
avoid
any
type
of
a
water
backing
up
into
a
residential
property
which
happened
also
a
few
months
ago,
which
I
do
have
to
say
that
the
administration
responded
to
the
to
that
request
to
the
constituent
stress
fairly
fast?
B
But
what
responsibility
do
we
also
have
here
as
a
city
in
terms
of
understanding
and
getting
to
know
how
we
handle
or
assess
to
catch
basins,
adding
more
larger
diameters
of
pipes
or
more
inlets
on
on
roads
to
a
try
to
work
with
constituents
in
the
city
who
are
having
some
sort
of
drainage
issue
concerning
the
flooding
in
the
case
of
Matthew?
Who
is
here
this
who's
here
with
us?
B
This
evening
seems
like
history
prior
to
being
paved
had
no
issue
with
the
water
and
now
that
it's
paved
there's
water
kind
of
obviously
going
into
his
property,
and
that's
probably
because
the
street
I'm
not
an
engineer
is
not
is
not.
It
used
to
be
not
level.
Now
it's
actually
leveled
to
the
sidewalk
into
the
Cobblestone
that
it's
going
right
into
the
sidewalk
and
right
into
his
property.
B
K
B
Attack
we
do
and
we
can
actually
would
you
like
to
kind
of
collaborate
and
take
it
out
of
water.
So
if
there
is
no
I,
don't
think
we
have
to
put
a
motion
to
get
out
of
order.
So
just
council
president,
if
you
want
to
add
a
little
on
your
end
in
terms
of
the
flooding
storm
water
issues
in
the
city
streets.
B
F
Some
of
it
is
old,
some
is
new,
and
the
best
thing
we
can
do
is
look
to
the
experts
within
the
city
with
the
engineering
department
and
have
a
discussion
as
to
the
actual
problem
areas,
the
causes
for
them
and
the
remediation
aspect,
including
what
the
costs
are.
We
all
understand.
We
can't
have
a
one-size-fits-all
solution
solution,
but
we
need
to
have
a
discussion
on
knowing
what
the
problem
areas
are
and
what
we're
going
to
do
so.
I
I
think
Council.
Vice
president,
too,
for
her
topic
with
respect
to
drainage,
thanks,
okay,.
K
Yeah
I
what
I'd
like
to
do
if
it's
permissible
just
to
give
an
overview
myself
I
want.
We
also
have
our
our
environmental
program
manager
who
handles
these
things
and
he'll
talk
more
specifically,
but
if
I
kind
of
give
an
introduction
to
give
I
think
a
more
Global
picture
just
had
a
prepared
statement
to
say,
as
we
all
know,
flash
flooding
in
some
areas
of
the
city
caused
by
infrequent
acts
of
God
has
persisted
for
decades,
pretty
much
and
and
probably
with
climate
change.
K
This
more
often
in
that
regard,
the
city
has
remedied
some
of
the
problems,
problematic
areas,
but
others
still
exist
for
various
reasons.
Hopefully,
we
can
clarify
some
of
your
questions.
As
you
know,
the
city
is
in
the
same
boat,
pardon
the
pun
as
most
other
communities
in
the
state.
The
fundamental
reason
for
problems
occurring
during
extraordinary
rain
events
is
in
urbanized.
Areas
is
old
infrastructure
and
environmental
discharge
concerns.
These
conditions
exist
for
both
municipalities
and
the
well
as
the
state.
K
There
are
numerous
drainage
problems
throughout
the
city
that
have
issues
during
storm
events,
similar
to
what
that
which
occurred
on
July
10th.
These
issues
typically
occur
during
brief,
intense
rain
events
such
as
when
we
get
two
inches
of
rain
or
more
in
a
one
to
two
hour
period.
The
majority
of
these
problems
are
due
to
the
undersized
underground
piping
into
connections
with
State
Rideout
drainage
system
also
has
contributed
to
these
problems.
K
The
public
works
department
has
been
working
on
maintenance
of
our
drainage
system
over
the
last
several
years
by
implementing
a
catch,
Basin,
cleaning
program
and
flushing
cleaning
of
underground
piping.
This
is
done
under
the
state,
r-I-d-e-m-m-s-4
regulations,
and
we
have
been
in
full
compliance
concerning
capacity
issues
with
the
current
drainage
system.
It
is
not
a
simple
fix
to
just
increase
the
size
of
pipes.
To
allow
more
drainage
to
enter
increased
pipe
sizes
would
likely
not
be
approved
by
Rhode
Island
DM,
because
that
would
just
push
the
problem
literally
Downstream.
K
Any
true
fixes
to
the
system
require
the
city
to
reduce
the
flow
of
Rainwater
into
the
system
by
using
engineering
features
such
as
new
detention
ponds,
underground
infiltration
of
storm
water,
permeable,
Pavements
Etc.
This
is
now
required
and
is
done
routinely
during
the
engineering
of
new
subdivisions
in
large-scale
commercial
developments.
It
is
fairly
cost
effective
to
complete
these
stormwater
mitigation
programs
for
new
developments.
K
Now
we
have
Ed
Talley,
who
is
our
environmental
program
manager
is
here
to
address
any
I,
guess,
maybe
specific
areas.
Certainly,
we
have
targeted
areas
that
we
know
about.
You
can
provide
some
explanations.
He
can
maybe
go
over,
highlight
some
of
the
major
areas
of
concern
or,
if
you
folks
had
any
particular
ones
that
can
be
would
like
to
be
addressed
would
be
happy
to
respond.
F
K
Talley
is
very
well
equipped
with
that
and
I
can
just
tell
you
briefly
he's
familiar
with
it.
I
think
the
answer
could
be
working
with
grant
writer,
with
your
grant
writer
the
council's
grant
writer
to
be
aggressive
there,
but
certainly
Hill
dedicated
to
me.
There
is
money
out
there,
it's
it's
getting
it
and
it
is
time
consuming
and
resources,
so
to
I
would
say
using
utilizing,
Mr
Talley's
Department
in
our
grant
writer
to
try
to
take
advantage
of
those,
but
Mr
Talley
is
very
familiar
with
with
the
program.
N
N
You
know
our
process
on
what
we
do
in
the
event
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
storm
event
scheduled
like
Friday.
The
highway
division
will
go
out
and
there's
a
list
of
low-lying
areas
where
they'll
check
and
remove
any
debris
from
the
catch
basins
prior
to
to
try
to
alleviate
that
I
know
the
city
of
Providence,
mayor
Smiley
was
discussing
having
residents
do
their
do
their
part.
If
there's
a
drain
in
front
of
their
their
house
that
they
know
gets
covered
up,
especially
in
the
fall.
N
That
is
a
typical
issue
to
clear
those
off.
So
the
water
can
make
its
way
into
the
system
during
large
flash
flooding.
Events
that
doesn't
really
matter
that
much
because
the
capacity
of
those
lines
are
are
can't
handle
the
water
that's
coming
in,
and
the
flash
flooding
events
that
we're
seeing
they
have
been
more
intense
and
more
frequent
over
the
last.
You
know,
10
15
years
so
I
believe
the
hazard
mitigation
plan
that
we
just
approved
in
2022
mentioned
12.
N
If
you
include
this
last
storm
on
Monday
12
storms,
that
that
would
be
flash
flooding
events
that
cause
this
type
of
result
in
the
city,
the
the
catch
basins
have
been
cleaned
out.
We
had
a
program,
the
the
the
reason
why
we
started
the
catch
Basin
cleaning
program
was
to
try
to.
We
have
4
500
catch
basins
that
we
have
to
clean
out
every
year
based
on
our
storm
water
permit.
N
So
we
went
through
the
process
of
of
cleaning
those
out
Rhode
Island
em
will
allow
us
to
reduce
the
number
of
cleanings
if
we
can
prove
with
data
that
we
don't
need
to
be
there
every
year.
So
as
an
effort
to
have
some
cost
savings
to
the
city,
I
implemented
that
that
project
and
we
collect
data
on
every
single
catch
Basin.
N
When
we
go
out
there
and
clean
it
and
then
compare
year
over
year
data
and
come
up
with
a
new
schedule,
which
we
actually
just
started
this
week
for
our
new
schedule,
which
cut
the
amount
of
catch
basins
that
we
need
to
clean
in
half.
So
that's
been
very
successful.
But
what
that
means
is
that
we
have
cleaned
these
catch
basins
to
the
bottom
for
the
last
two
years.
But
really
it
ends
up
falling
over
three
years.
B
Thank
you
for
that
information
and
yeah
yep.
You
can
give
me
one
second
I'm,
just
going
to
finish
my
train
of
thought,
real,
quick
before
I
forget
it
was
I
I
appreciate
you
providing
us
with
all
that
information.
That's
information
that
I
also
researched,
that
I've
also
reached
out
to
other
municipalities
trying
to
get
a
sense.
Climate
change
obviously
has
a
lot.
I
personally
believe
to
do
with
a
lot
of
this.
B
Is
that
what
it
is,
but
because,
when
you
have
high
flooding
amount
of
water
coming
in,
it's
filling
up,
it
can't
take
it
so
is,
is,
is
part
of
the
the
plan
moving
I
guess
the
plan
moving
forward
other
than
cleaning
like
the
catch
basins,
which
is
a
great
initiative
on
this
end,
is
what
about
like
the
inlets
or
the
cash
Basin?
Are
we
looking
at?
Maybe
having
the
I
know?
You
can't
have
a
lot
of
like
bigger
holes
right
because
you
don't
want
a
lot
of
leaves.
H
J
B
Through
it,
I
get
that
part.
Is
there
anything
new
Innovative
out
there
with
so
much
of
this
conversation
taking
place
throughout
the
entire
country?
It's
not
just
an
issue
that
we're
having
if
you're
in
France
and
which
I
understand
completely,
but
it
is
our
due
diligence
to
be
proactive
here
in
Cranston,
because
it's
a
city
that
we
represent
so
is
there:
are
there
any
cash
bases
or
inlets
or
around
the
streets,
or
anything
that
we're
able
to
probably
with
the
infrastructure,
Bank
try
to
get
a
census
to
improving
on
new
new.
H
N
Try
to
answer
that
question
so
we
because
of
climate
change,
a
lot
of
the
federal
money
that's
been
coming
out
has
has
had
green
infrastructure
tied
to
that
so
trying
to
find
Green
Solutions
to
get
this
water
in
the
ground
prior
to
it,
getting
to
a
pipe
prior
to
get
getting
to
a
catch.
Basin
there's
there's
nothing
Innovative
about
the
catch
Basin
itself.
That's
changing
all
that
much
it's!
N
The
goal
is
to
get
it
off
the
roadway
in
the
first
place,
so
unfortunately,
I
think
that's
a
community-based
effort
where
we
all
need
to
do
our
small
little
part
on
the
impervious
area
that
we
have
on
our
home
properties
and
the
challenge
we
have
as
a
city
is.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
room
to
implement
the
larger
changes
that
might
make
the
biggest
difference
in
our
city
roadways
without
spending
a
lot
of
money,
and
hopefully
this
this
grant
money
can
assist
us
with
that.
N
But
we
have
done
some
proactive,
green
infrastructure
projects,
one
at
spec
field,
one
at
Barrett
Street
to
try
to
get
some
underground
infiltration,
but
a
lot
of
that
is
tied
to
water
quality.
So
it
will
have
some
some
flood
in
annotation.
You
can
take
some
of
the
flood
water,
but
it's
still
not
designed
to
take
that
that
two
inches
that
it's
designed
to
take
your
first
flush,
your
first
inch
of
water
that
comes
off
the
system
and
you
get
water
quality
treatment
based
on
what
you're
looking
to
try
to
improve.
A
E
E
E
Street
we
shot
sweet
awkwards
with
the
whole
area
behind
was
Square.
I
have
I'm
reading
an
email
that
I
sent
in
November
28th
2022
Department
of
Public
Works.
So,
regarding
those
issue,
I
never
had
this
solution,
but
I
do
hope.
I
will
be
benefit
from
this
conversation
and
the
resident
in
Ward
2
that
have
been
complaining
for
past
10.
They
told
me
10
or
15
years
they've
been
complaining
about
the
issue.
They
have
right
there.
E
E
N
The
discharge
of
that
goes
through
Magnolia
Street,
and
it
goes
through
the
Housing
Authority
under
Magnolia
through
the
Doric
Park
basketball
courts
in
the
fields,
and
it
goes
under
the
train
tracks
under
route
95,
splits
with
95.
So
some
of
the
flow
goes
to
95
the
rest,
Goes
Down
Under,
the
train
tracks
down
under
Elmwood
Avenue
through
Johnson
Controls
and
then
discharges
Defender
pond.
So
we
did
look
at
that
in
a
study
that
we
completed
in
2014.
N
We
were
hopeful
that
Johnson
Controls
during
some
of
their
upgrades
were,
would
do
some
upsizing
of
pipes.
We
have
some
plans
to
upsize
pipes
Downstream,
but
we
did
look
at
adding
catch
basins
in
different
areas
on
different
streets
strategically,
and
this
study
was
was
basically
set
up.
As
you
have
this
option
or
you
could
add
option
one
with
option
two.
So
there
was
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
there
ultimately
I
think
Chief
of
Staff
alluded
to
this
and
it's
true
putting
catch
basins.
N
More
catch
basins
is
going
to
get
the
water
into
the
pipe
quicker
and
create
more
of
a
peak
flow.
So
are
you
you're
not
really
solving
the
problem?
You're
going
to
get
it
flooded.
Faster
is
essentially
what's
going
to
happen.
So
when
you
look
at
that
on
a
cost
benefit
analysis,
it
never
Rose
to
the
level
of
turning
into
a
project
for
us
in
the
in
the
meantime,
where
we're
dealing
with
a
lot
of
the
kind
of
onesie
twosies.
N
That
I
would
call
that
flooding
issue
that
I'm
sure
will
probably
be
able
to
help
them
out
and
we've
solved
a
lot
of
those
minor
issues
throughout
the
years,
but
that
that
Watershed
is
a
major
is
a
major
problem
and
we
have
interconnections
with
the
state.
We
have
private
property
issues
and
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
land
to
work
with
with.
N
E
N
I
I
think
it
requires
more
more
discussion
and
I
think
when
we're
having
these
discussions.
A
lot
of
this
grant
money
wasn't
out
there.
So
if
I
can
just
scale
back
to
the
municipal
resiliency
program
that
getting
on
the
list
for
that
program
comes
with
technical
assistance
where
we
would
go,
and
we
would
have
these
discussions-
and
we
would
say
this
is
where
we're
having
problems
and
here's
the
information.
We
have
to
inform
what
what
potential
Solutions
we
may
make
actually
can
be
implemented.
N
M
F
You
two
councilwoman
Jermaine's
point
and
what
you
touched
upon.
Mr
Talley
is
my
understanding.
I'm,
not
an
engineer.
Is
that
basically
there's
long-term
solutions
that
also
involve
vegetation
improvements
in
terms
of
mitigating
the
flood
water,
so
that
it
has
a
place
to
go
so
that
it's
not
just
flooding
a
certain
area
and
those
are
difficult,
because
that
is
a
lot
of
infrastructure
change
and
investment
and.
N
Right
and
then
that
comes
along
with
higher
maintenance
costs
for
your
municipality
to
maintain
so
the
the
idea
of
tree
Wells
and
bump
outs
to
to
help.
Now
you
have
other
problems
that
come
along
with
that,
so
it's
it's
going
into
it
with
eyes,
wide
open
and
will
that
actually
create
the
infrastructure
you
need
to
take
a
hundred
year
storm
in
two
hours.
You
know
that
that's
the
that's
the
question
and
I
think
everyone
would
sit
at
the
table
and
try
to
do
the
best
they
could
with
the
resources
provided
to
make
that
happen.
F
F
N
Wilbur
F
we
can,
we
can
start
there
and
and
I
will
I
will
say
I,
don't
have
all
the
answers
so
I'm
just
providing
information
that
that
we've
gathered
a
lot
of
this
hasn't
gone
further
than
looking
at
a
briefly
conceptual
plans
and
then
rough
ideas
of
cost.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
Wilbur
Ave
flash
flooding
in
2011
there
was
just
a
discussion
about
doing
some
underground
infiltration
behind
the
bike
path
that
that
could
potentially
help
this
situation.
N
That
in
today's
dollars
would
probably
be
in
the
five
million
dollar
range.
So
that
would
be
one
solution.
I
know:
Peter
alvidi
was
on
the
radio
this
morning
talking
about
bringing
the
the
bike
path
to
grade
and
raising
the
belly
in
that
road
to
to
try
to
fix
it.
I
rough
numbers.
We
were
throwing
around
a
couple
million
dollars
for
that.
If
we
were
going
to
do
that,
maybe
more
so
I
I,
just
I'd
hate
to
have
any
of
those
numbers.
N
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
Talley
and
since
you
mentioned
DirecTV
I'm
wondering
do
we
have
a
a
relationship
with
that
department
in
which
we're
working
with
DOT
storm
water
management
program,
because
I
know
that
they
will
help.
You
know
they
want
municipalities
to
work
with
the
state
to
plan
fund
and
carry
out
the.
L
B
See
happening
before
your
answer
that
I
great
question.
Actually
that
was
my
question.
I
was
just
showing
us
council.
President
Marino
was
like
that's
the
question
that
I
had
because
to
piggyback
off
of
what
you're
saying
just
so
that
way,
when
your
answer,
you
can
probably
answer
the
question
for
the
both
of
us
is
the
number
of
streets
that
are
actually
so
far
brought
to
our
attention
in
terms
of
flooding.
How
many
of
them
are
actually
state
right
and
of
those?
B
N
N
If
we
have
an
issue
which
has
been
very
helpful
and
I'm
in
close
contact
with
the
state's
stormwater
coordinator,
I
will
say
that
occasionally
we're
getting
involved
with
our
ms4
permit,
which
is
really
driven
to
deal
with
water
quality
issues
and
dealing
with
more
of
the
science
behind
that
and
coming
up
with
stormwater
management
plans
and
not
necessarily
fixing
all
the
flooding
problems
so
they're
not
always
tied
together.
However,
if
we
do
a
a
larger
flood
mitigation
program,
we
certainly
want
to
try
to
put
in
some
green
infrastructure
if
possible.
N
B
N
N
Yeah
they
had
a
couple
partners
that
were
looking
into
that
and
that's
been
a
long,
a
long
term.
These
things
move
slow
slower
than
when
someone's
getting
water
coming
to
their
their
front
door.
I
I
can
understand
the
the
concerns,
and
then
we
have
some
in
the
Garden
City
area.
There's
some
flooding
that
that
we're
trying
to
work
on
now.
When
we
received
this
this
study,
we
started
implementing
things
that
we
felt
would
help
that
would
be
cost
effective.
They
were
in
the
operating
budget
to
do
I
think
they
have
been
helpful.
N
It's
hard
to
quantify
that
because
you
don't
know
if
the
storm
they
had
a
problem
with
before
is
the
exact
same
scenario
that
you
have.
You
got
this
time
so
I
I
will
say
that
there
are
some
happy
campers
based
on
the
work
that
we've
done
so
I
positive
things
have
come
out
of
that
study.
The
the
larger
issues
that
I
believe
we
need
to
bring
in
Partners
or
get
larger
amounts
of
money.
I
I,
would
say,
have
not
been
addressed.
N
K
Yeah
I
just
like
to
comment
on
something
that
became
an
issue.
Oaklawn
Avenue
just
to
mention
is
a
state
road.
Obviously
it
hit
the
news
the
other
day
on
some
unfortunate
people,
but
it's
on
the
state,
road
and
Mr
alvidi
listening
to
him
this
morning
had
stated
that
those
apartments
were
built
on
a
flood
Plains
from
what
he
said.
Certainly
Oaklawn
Avenue
is
there.
K
We
can't
make
a
conclusion,
but
Cranston
doesn't
necessarily
feel
responsible
that
we
feel
badly
for
the
circumstances
there
Atwood
Avenue
and
Randall,
it's
another
one,
again,
Atwood
being
a
state
road,
so
it
is
kind
of
working
in
conjunction
with
Mr
alvidi
in
terms
of
relationship.
We
have
a
meeting
scheduled,
missed
alvidi,
coincidentally,
scheduled
to
talk
about
Route,
37
and
what's
going
on
the
banging
and
clanging,
but
this
will
be
part
of
that
discussion
also,
but
will
it
happen
overnight?
No
promises.
B
Again,
I
have
a
few
questions,
but
I
we
can
talk
after
the
meeting
or
if
I
or
at
some
point,
I
can
send
you
an
email
that
works
out
just
in
terms
of
other
areas
that
I
also
know
that
are
and
flood
zones
I
guess
in
terms
of
emails
coming
in
all
right
great.
Thank
you,
council
president
Mourinho,
you
actually
have
one
other
item,
which
is
Fire
Department
stations,
status
of
necessary
repairs
and
maintenance.
J
F
Reached
out
to
director
Moretti
in
advance
of
tonight's
meeting,
mentioning
that
I'd
be
putting
it
on
this
agenda
tonight.
The
Fire
Department
stations,
some
in
particular
I,
had
the
opportunity
to
to
tour
and
take
a
look
at
first
hand,
and
there
are
some
major
need
of
immediate
repairs
and
I
wanted
to
know
from
the
administration
and
what
the
status
is
with
respect
to
the
necessary
peers
and
the
and
the
maintenance.
K
Yeah
we
actually
next
week,
I'm
scheduled
with
the
mayor
in
the
eye
and
the
fire
chief
to
view
those
two
stations
in
particular
I
know:
the
roof
repair
down
in
Garden
City
is
budgeted
being
done,
if
not
already
done,
but
any
other
concerns.
We
didn't,
as
you
know,
that
the
chief
didn't
mention
it
so
we're
kind
of
circling
back,
but
we
next
week
we're
going
to
be
physically
reviewing
that,
and
they
also
want
to
consider
perhaps
other
City
buildings
but
I
think
it's
certainly
worthy
of
taking
a
look
at
and
we
can.
F
Got
it
okay,
and
this
this
particular
one?
This
is
station
two
which
is
right
here
on
Pontiac
Ave.
This
as
well
is
also
station.
Two
you
can
see
you
know,
there's
tiles
missing.
This
is
a
stairwell
station.
Two
no
weather
is
lead
paid
or
asbestos
I
don't
know,
but
it
needs
to
be
addressed
in
the
lodge
gaping
hole,
and
you
know
we
have
our
firefighter
sleeping
in
these
buildings
and
they
deserve
better.
F
So
I
understand
cost
is
a
factor,
however.
I
wouldn't
want
to
live
this
way.
I,
wouldn't
if
I
were
a
landlord
had
a
tenant
with
these
conditions,
I
would
be
in
trouble
and
if
we,
as
a
city,
need
to
utilize
our
arpa
funds
to
make
these
necessary
repairs,
then
that's
something
that
at
least
I
would.
This
is
exactly
on
the
floor
in
which
the
our
treasured
firefighters
are
sleeping.
What
you
see
right
there
and
you
know
Tom
if
you
can
move
on
to
another
this
as
well.
F
F
If
we
need
to
utilize
our
arpa
funds
to
do
this
at
least
myself
I
would
be
in
favor
of
that
and
that's
something
that
I
would
propose
and
work
with
the
administration
on
and
try
and
get
support
from
the
council
to
utilize
arpa
funds
to
make
the
necessary
peers.
So
I
will
continue
this
to
the
full
council
meeting
at
the
end
of
this
month
to
have
further
discussion
on
on
where
this
situation
stands
and
I
look
forward
to
to
having
further
discussions.
B
Great,
thank
you
council.
President
I
will
add,
if
possible,
to
the
administration,
given
the
fact
that
you're
going
to
continue
this
conversation
until
we
are
able
to
provide
everyone
with
working
conditions
as
well
that
I,
you
know
I
I'm
with
you
on
that
100
percent.
I'm
curious,
though,
to
the
administration.
Is
there
a
master,
building,
Improvement
plan
and
has
there
been
any
assessments
our
buildings
done
within
the
last
few
years?
And
if
so,
would
you
be
able
to
share
that
with
us.
K
I'm
surprises
didn't
work
its
way
through
the
budget
process.
Frankly
that
that
came
to
light
subsequent
to
it
certainly
is
worthy
of
addressing,
but
again,
for
some
reason,
it
didn't
was
not
illuminated
to
all
of
us
through
the
budget
process
and
certainly
the
union
representatives
and
the
councilwoman
with
exposed
this,
which
is
something
we
certainly
should
address.
B
L
You
I
I'm,
just
I'm
a
little
concerned
too,
that
this
didn't
come
through
the
budget
process,
because
I
hope
that
it's
not
considered
Capital
to
be
fixing
City
buildings.
I,
don't
know
what
at
what
point
it
becomes
at
so
I'm
I'm,
just
curious,
I,
see,
council
president
shaking
her
head,
so
I'm
just
curious
how
that
works
because
I
don't
want
us
to
to
go
forward
and
then
we
have
to
I.
Don't
think
that
this
should
have
to
wait.
F
While
I'm
not
an
expert
to
be
living
and
working
in
those
conditions,
I
would
have
concerns
about
OSHA
requirements
potentially
and
things
like
that,
so
with
respect
to
it
being
allowed
or
disallowed,
because
it
is
post-budget.
That
is
not
an
issue
when
it
comes
to
that
severity
of
the
need
for
a
peer,
and
the
fact
remains
that
we
have
a
building
and
maintenance
department
and
we
again
we
have
the
ability
to
amend
the
budget
post
that
time
and
we
have
the
authority
to
extend
arpa
funds
and
clearly
the
firefighters
who
put
themselves
out.
L
And
I
asked
for
the
attorney
attorney
of
a
decade.
Do
you
know
I'm
not
disputing
what
you're
saying
council
president
I'm
just
wondering
how
the
process
goes?
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
amend
the
capital
budget.
So
that's
why
I'm
asking
the
question,
because
we
don't
typically
amend
the
capital
budget
stuff
has
to
go
through
planning.
I
agree
with
councilwoman
Vargas
that
there
should
be
some
kind
of
every
five
years,
an
assessment
of
City
buildings,
and
then
it
probably
would
have
to
go
through
planning.
So
that's
my
question.
L
B
G
So
it's
it's
I
didn't
see,
I
wasn't
I
can't
see
from
where
I
am,
but
it
sounds
to
me
like
this
could
very
well
qualify
and
would
justify
some
type
of
emergency
appropriation.
As
far
as
the
you
know,
the
intricacies
of
you
know
whether
these
Opera
phones,
whether
to
amend
Capital
budgets,
I
truthfully
I,
would
like
to
discuss
that
with
the
Director
of
Finance
I.
E
B
E
K
An
operating
budget,
but
those
look
like
Capital
repairs,
probably
should
have
been
brought
to
the
attention
of
the
city
council
going
through
the
administration,
the
city
council.
Frankly
we're
blindsided
a
bit.
Certainly
the
councilwoman
mentioned
this
to
us
to
give
us
a
heads
up,
but
certainly
fire
chief
did
not
come
forward.
It
did
not
come
through
the
ranks.
It
was
not
proposed
this
year,
as
we
all
know
so.
E
B
No
allocated
dollar
amounts
within
building
and
maintenance.
That's
going
to
be
able
councilwoman
Jermaine
to
actually
address
the
situation
urgently
right
now.
Hence
the
reason
why
we're
asking
or
having
the
conversation
as
to
whether
or
not
there's
possibly
some
emergency
appropriation,
either
a
capital
project
or
some
Opera
funds
to
be
used
for
that
building
or
any
building
somewhere,
like
that,
my.
E
K
K
I,
don't
think
we
all
should
panic
I
think
we
should
prudently
address
it.
It
just
came
to
our
attention.
It
was
there
for
a
while,
as
we
can
all
see.
Unfortunately,
no
one
brought
it
to
the
administration's
attention
to
all
this
Council
up
until
councilman
council
person
Marina
this
evening
and
we're
going
to
respond
to
it,
but
we're
not
going
to
declare
a
state
of
emergency
without
knowing
the
facts.
K
B
You
thank
you
director
and
I
would
add.
As
a
final
thing,
you
know
we
have
Engineers
within
a
city.
We
have
the
inspections
department
here
in
the
city
as
well,
and
so
I
would
suggest,
as
this
topic
is
moving
along
considering
it
is,
you
know
the
the
visuals
that
we
kind
of
Came
Upon
today,
that
was
that
council
president
brought
to
our
attention
is
also
making
sure
that
that
building
is
an
actual
building
that
we
can
continue
to
also
operate
in,
for
something
like
that.
B
I
would
recommend
engineering
coming
in
and
having
some
sort
of
structural
analysis
being
done
in
assessment
into
that
into
that
building
and
continue
that
conversation
from
there.
That
would
allow
us,
then,
to
provide
us
with
some
further
information
and
further
discussion
on
on
the
life
of
that
that
building
and
many
others
as
well
so
yep
go
ahead.
One
final
thing
before.
B
E
K
Okay,
this
was
not
called.
This
was
not
called
to
the
building
inspector's
attention.
They
spoke
to
councilwoman
Mourinho.
They
did
not
speak
to
the
fire
chief.
They
did
not
speak
to
the
mayor.
They
did
not
speak
to
Building
Inspections
Council
Mourinho
is
calling
it
to
our
attention
for
the
first
time.
With
these
pictures
we
never
saw
these
pictures
before
I'm
discussing
this,
as
we
speak
with
the
fire
chief
as
we're
as
this
is
going
on
to
get
some
accountability.
I'm.
E
Sure
he's
got
good
answers.
My
question
director
is:
we
have
a
lot
of
buildings
in
this
city
and
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is.
It's
happened
to
other
building
that
be
in
really
this
we
got
so
do
we
have
someone
who
his
job
is
to
make
sure
all
the
public
building
are
maintained
properly
and
then
before
the
budget
or
whatever
they
have
something
in
place.
E
To
say
when
this
is
this
is
my
job
to
go
to
inspect
the
city
hall
to
know
what
is
correct
is
somebody
who
is
responsible
to
walk
to
talk
with
this
person
to
know
what
is
needs
to
be
done?
What
needs
to
be
fixed?
That's
the
question
I'm
not
asking
about.
It's
just
brought
to
you
right
now,
because
if
we
hire
somebody
who
have
the
job
to
inspect
our
public
building,
that's
their
job
to
bring
that
up.
K
To
answer
your
question:
there
is
not
a
designated
person
that
does
the
rounds
at
every
building
proactively.
We
have
people
who
will
work
in
these
buildings
that
we
welcome
their
input
if
they
have
any
concerns
and
then
we'll
go
out.
Certainly
this
fire
looks
at
fire
protection
according
to
the
regulations,
but
we
would
think
that
our
employees
would
be
vocals.
B
K
Is
no
one
but
called,
and
there
never
has
been
director
of
public
bills
in
the
city
of
Kansas.
So
the
answer
is
no
thank
you.
Maybe
we
should
create
a
position
of
direct
Republic
buildings
in
the
next
budget
process.
Should
you
think
that's
necessary,
but
there's
never
been
a
position
in
my
history.
I've
been
alive
for
65
years,
I'm,
probably
about
the
kindness
of
55
years
about
city
government.
B
B
H
C
B
Next
item
we
have
is
committee
business
matters
carried
over
2-23-04
ordinance,
amendment
of
chapter
15
of
the
quote
of
the
city
of
France
in
2005,
entitled
buildings
and
construction,
LED
safe
home,
sponsored
by
councilman
donegan's,
co-sponsored
by
councilwoman
Jermaine.
This
was
continued
from
March,
April,
May
and
June
of
this
year.
Is
your
motion
to
approve.
B
J
C
B
Great
thank
you
on
to
the
next
item:
3-2-3-04
ordinance
and
Amendment
of
the
title.
10
chapter
28,
section
090
of
the
quote
of
the
city
of
Cranston
2005,
entitled
motor
vehicles
and
traffic
online
sparking
prohibited
sponsored
by
councilwoman
Germaine.
This
was
continue
from
the
April
13
2023,
meaning,
okay,.
E
This
ordinance
I
would
like
to
withdraw
it
for,
for
today,
for
various
reasons,
I
went
back
to
countless
meeting.
We
had
the
workshop
we
have
and
the
communication
we
had
in
January
when
Council
women,
when
zuly
put
this
matter
in
overnight
parking
for
communication
and
then
when
I
review
all
the
communication,
everything
that
has
been
said
about
the
ordinance
and
I
went
back
to
take
into
consideration
all
of
those
things
and
I
have
a
lot
of
amendments
to
me.
E
E
No
not
only
complained
about
people
who
got
ticketed
but
also
complain
about
people
who
park
right
now
in
the
sidewalk
or
in
front
of
the
house.
And
you
know
people
are
really
care
about
the
beauty
of
their
loan
and
it
doesn't
make
it
look
when
you
have
two
three
neighbors,
because
they
are
tired
of
being
ticketing.
Now
they
Park
their
car
in
front
of
their
lawn.
So
where
is
the
beautification?
So
I
have
received
someone
say?
Oh
my
neighbors
Park
in
the
sidewalk.
E
Now
they
cannot
park
in
the
street
they
park
on
the
sidewalk
and
parking.
The
sidewalk
is
also
a
violation,
so
there
is
no
option
for
those
people
and
that's
why
I
want
to
continue
to
move
with
this
ordinance
overnight
parking,
but
I
request
an
information
from
the
administration
that
I'm
waiting
for
and
I
sent
this
email
on,
June,
26
and
based
on
the
law.
E
When
you
request
public
access
to
people
because
they
have
10
days
to
give
it
to
you
and
I,
don't
know,
as
a
council
person
do,
I
need
to
go
to
the
process
to
to
to
request
this
information.
So
if
what
I
need
I
will
ask
the
lawyers
do
I
need
to
go
to
a
file
as
anybody
to
have
this
information,
because
I
need
this
information
from
the
administration
from
the
police
department
to
inform.
This
is
the
last
piece
I
need
for
the
parking,
ordinance
and
I
went
back.
E
I
read
all
the
notes
about
what
the
fire
chief
I
said.
What
the
police
chief
has
said
what
the
administration
I
said
and
I
we
with
them
and
I
with
them
and
I
know
in
my
heart.
We
need
to
do
something
we
need
to
pass.
We
need
to
allow
people
who
need
who
need
it
apart
overnight
parking
to
be
able
to
park
in
front
of
their
house,
but
I'm
going
to
withdraw
this
one
to
taking
consideration
all
of
those
as
I'm
waiting
for
police
department
on
the
administration.
To
give
me
all
the
information.
G
G
There's
a
lot
of
amendments.
Okay,
if
you
withdraw
it,
that's
fine!
You
can
withdraw
it
because
in
all
honesty,
this
is
going
to
take.
I
spoke
with
attorney
Angel
today,
before
before
I
came
to
the
meeting,
and
this
actually
came
up
and
I
I
guess
there
was
supposed
to
be
supposed
to
be
a
series
of
workshops.
We.
E
G
Workshop
yep,
yeah,
I,
I,
think
and
again.
This
is
something
we
we
can
talk
about
this,
but
this
is
going
to
take
quite
a
bit
of
work
because
I
think
the
admit
we
talked
about
the
administration
being
involved,
there's
an
issue.
It
could
possibly
implicate
the
comprehensive
plan.
This
put
it
this
way.
There's
there's
issues
that
we
need
to
discuss,
so
it
does
make
sense
to
withdraw
it
and
we'll
go
forward
from
there,
but
we
did
discuss
this
today.
E
E
E
B
E
L
Councilman
Japan
I
just
might
suggest
that
perhaps
would
it
be
possible
to
push
this
to
planning
to
have
the
comprehensive
plan
as
it's
being
Rewritten
study
this
and
include
it
because
parking
as
I
looked
up
in
my
own
research
is
part
of
a
planning
function
in
urban
planning.
So
if
that's
possible
and
it
could
be
included,
I
don't
know
if
it
can
be
included
because
of
how
the
RFP
is.
L
But
if
that's
a
discussion
to
have
there's
been
previous
conversation,
when
we
had
a
public
sewerk
director
that
they
said
there
needed
to
be
a
study
of
the
roads
and
all
different
stuff.
So
we
would
have
to
put
out
to
RFP
anyway,
so
if
they
could
do
it
as
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan
and
not
supposed
to
get
done
in
maybe
a
year
total
because
of
stuff
that
came
down
from
the
legislature,
then
we
might
be
able
to
kind
of
kill
two
birds
at
one
stone
and
get
real
concrete
answers.
L
E
That
can
help
to
study
the
world
the
street,
so
we
don't
need
to
so
to
end
like
waste
money.
We'll
invest
a
lot
of
money
to
do
this.
I
am
not
for
really
invest
a
lot
of
money.
We
could
do
that
without
using
a
lot
of
taxpayer
money
to
do
this.
That's
yeah!
So
if
it's
not
gonna
cost
a
lot
of
money,
so
the
issue
is
as
of
now,
I
have
a
ticket,
I
have
to
say
and
I
I
was
someone
to
go
to
before
the
court
on
20.
E
E
So
it
is
written
in
my
sermon,
so
imagine
imagine
someone
who
got
that
who
didn't
have
time
to
look
at
those
things
and-
and
the
way
this
is
written
sent
to
me
is
that
it
doesn't
even
have
my
name
on
it.
It
just
it's.
Just
more
toys
and
I
know
I
have
the
ticket,
so
I
call
I,
call
the
court
and
to
say
hey.
What
is
this?
You
say:
oh
that's
a
ticket,
you
need
to
pay
and
people
25
dollars
for
the
first.
E
E
We
will
have
something
that
we
can
take
from
my
ordinance
I'm,
not
a
lawyer,
but
what
I
draft
is
with
my
Constitution
that
came
to
my
community
meetings,
homeowners,
landlords.
They
sit
at
the
table
in
my
community
meetings
and
we
come
up
with
the
language
of
the
ordinance
that
I
submitted.
It's
not
something.
I
did
myself,
but
I
was
hoping.
E
We
will
have
something
as
I
was
told,
we
can
combine
it
together,
so
I
Still,
Believe,
We,
Can,
Do
It,
and
that's
why
I
want
to
have
those
information
also
to
include
it
to
submit
and
and
weekend
because
when
Dr
Jason
said
yes,
we
can
do
it,
I
don't
think
we
can.
We
need
to
wait
for
five
years
to
have
this
result
of
two
years
for
the
comprehensive
plan.
I,
don't
think
we
need
that
if
we
have
the
app
that
can
just
tell
us
this.
Is
this
street
that's
wide
enough?
E
B
All
right
so
there's
a
motion.
There's
a
second
clearly
there
was
a
discussion
hearing.
You
say
that
you
are
withdrawing
this,
so
by
withdrawing
it
do
we
have
to
withdraw
our
emotions.
I
would
say
first,
so
then
that
way
you
can
actually
then
withdraw.
Your
ordinance
I
always
draw
my
motion
to
approve
thank
you
and
councilwoman
Jermaine.
B
Thank
you
right
so
that
ordinance
has
been
withdrawn
on
to
the
next
item.
It
is
4-23-01
ordinance
and
amendment
of
chapter
17,
of
the
quote
of
the
city
of
Cranston
2005
in
title
zoning
change
of
Zone
zero
bedson
Road
ap4
Lots
2606
through
2609,
sponsored
by
councilman
pop
Velasquez
before
I,
asked
for
any
motion,
I'm
going
to
actually
be
turning
this
over
to
councilman.
Sorry,
council,
president
Marina.
F
F
Or
lack
of
recommendation
from
the
plan
commission
that
heard
this
through
the
planning
department.
So
for
that
reason
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
hear
it
this
evening,
I
did
speak
to
the
the
people
and
the
attorney
for
the
applicants
and
advise
them
of
the
same
thing
so
that
they
know
and
I
will
email
the
director
pazulo
tonight,
including
the
applicant's
attorney's
email
on
there,
and
ask
him
to
update
the
applicant's
attorney
and
we'll
see
from
there.
O
Yeah
this
I
know
we
can't
have
a
lot
of
discussion
on
this
I
think
we're
going
to
continue
it,
but
this
goes
back
probably
a
year
and
a
half
that
they've
been
working
on
that
when
I
was
President,
they
asked
me
to
sponsor
it
and
I.
Happily
did
it
I
believe
the
Planning
Commission
met
a
couple
of
nights
ago,
so
they
probably
haven't
had
time
to
give
us
their
normal
recommendation
and
communication.
So
whatever
is
satisfactory
to
them?
I'll
be
here
either
way
to
to
speak
on
it
if
needed,.
B
Sounds
good
and
I
I
agree
if
we
can
do
it
right
before
the
city,
council
meeting
and
you'll
follow
up
so
great.
Thank
you,
council
president.
All
right.
Moving
on
to
the
next
item.
It's
public
hearing
and
public
common
is
there
anybody
here
in
the
chamber
in
the
chamber
who
would
like
to
speak
on
any
documented
matters
only.
B
E
B
Okay,
well,
does
it
have
to
do
with
anything
with
parking
anything
with
that,
then
you,
unfortunately
because
you're
withdrew.
We
can't
go
back
to
that
comment,
so
not
to
say
that
you
can't
have
that
sidebar
conversation
with
the
attorney
who's
here
with
us
this
evening.
Thank
you,
council,
member
Ferry,.
D
D
H
D
D
P
D
P
Sure
so
the
intent
with
entertainment
license
applies.
Indoor
and
outdoor.
The
indoor
Factor
would
help
when
people
rent
the
hall
out,
they
have
the
option
to
bring
in
a
DJ
or
an
acoustic
type
of
musician.
As
far
as
the
the
outdoor
venue
limited
again
acoustic
type
musicians
as
big,
as
maybe
a
three
four
person
band
during
the
hours
of
four
to
no
later
than
10
p.m.
P
O
C
P
P
P
P
B
B
P
B
P
No
ma'am:
this
is
not
a
an
every
weekend,
type
of
event,
I
think
right
now
again,
this
is
a
trial
thing
that
we're
trying
to
to
to
do
here
and
Sunday
was
again
a
contingency
date.
The
main
date
we're
looking
at
is
Saturday
three
four
events
before
the
end
of
the
summer,
just
as
a
to
gauge
and
time
frame
is
flexible
as
well.
We
have
nothing
set
up,
yet
we
want
to
work
within
the
parameters
that
the
city
will
allow
be
respectful
to
our
neighbors.
P
B
B
Then
we
would
allow
it
to
close
at
the
time
that
was
being
requested,
because
I
want
I'd,
be
hypocrite
of
myself
to
Grant
it
to
you
and
not
the
other
businesses
that
were
that
have
come
before,
be
that
I
voted
for
on
Sunday.
Would
you
consider
at
least
I
was
at
9
30
that
we
said
or
nine
it
was
like
yeah
again.
P
B
B
O
J
D
yeah,
so
that
so
we
can
I'll
change
that
Madam
Clerk.
Okay,
and
what
and
this
is
for
the
parking
lot
only
barricaded
off
not
to
go
into
the
fields
or
anything.
So
this
is
just
for
the
parking
lot.
If
something
like
that
would
have
come
up,
you'd
have
to
come
before
us
to
ask
permission
to
do
that.
That
would
be
a
whole
different
ball
game
not
to
be
but
make
it
a
pun.
P
D
Sir
okay,
so
and
like
it's
only
for
six
weeks
right
now
that
you're
asking
so
if
something
were
to
go
wrong,
we
would
address
it
if
it
goes
right
and
you
want
to
extend
it
next
year
or
do
it
more.
You
come
before
us
and
we'll
be
glad
to
you
know:
Friday
we
haven't
gotten
a
bunch
of
phone
calls
complaining
about
it.
So
could
we
we
want
you
to
be
successful
at
this.
Thank
you,
but
we
want
to
also
protect
ourselves
in
making
sure
that
the
neighbors
and
everyone
is
happy.
F
D
D
D
A
E
B
Thank
you.
How
are
you
good
evening
right
on
councilman
area,
you
guys
have
been
in
in
operations
I
wish.
You
took
continued
success
as
you
continue
to
operate
on
here.
My
one
question
for
you
we're
voting
on
your
visualizings
today.
Can
you
pick
it
up
because
you
have
to
post
it
on
your
business?
Okay,.
A
B
So
that
so
when
you,
maybe
you
can
call
the
clerk's
office
and
see
when
it's
ready
but
make
sure
you
come
and
pick
it
up,
because
you
didn't
pick
up
the
one
from
last
time,
okay
and
and
which
you're
still
it
was
approved.
But
you
just
make
sure
you
pick
it
up,
because
you
want
to
post
it
on
your
business.
Okay,
okay,
I.