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Coverage of the Cupertino City Council Teleconference Meeting, recorded on Tuesday, October 5, 2021. Part 2 of 2.
A
D
E
A
Of
when
councilmember
wooley
comes
back
as
well,
all
right
so
on
our
agenda
tonight
are
a
couple
of
proclamations.
We
have
our
first
proclamation
under
item
number,
one
recognizing
the
50th
anniversary
of
the
tournament
of
bans
and
I'm
very
pleased
to
report
that
the
organization,
of
course,
is
quite
vibrant
and
active.
A
They
are
having
an
administrative
meeting
this
evening,
however,
and
are
unable
to
attend
with
us,
but
we
do
have
an
immediate
past
mayor
of
our
city
and
council
member
stephen
scharf,
who
is
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
community
and
as
a
parent
who
had
band
members
and
his
family
and
so
welcome
back
former
council
member
and
mayor
scharf.
Would
you
like
to
say
a
few
words
about
the
tournament
of
bands.
A
F
There
will
be
no
parade
this
year
and
per
fremont
union
high
school
district
policy
masks
required,
regardless
of
vaccination
status.
I
talked
to
the
cupertino
high
school
band
director
earlier
tonight.
He
told
me
that
this
year
there
would
be
12
bands
performing
this
is
fewer
than
in
past
years,
but
he
thinks
by
2022.
F
It
should
be
back
up
to
17
to
20
bands
like
it
was
in
the
past.
If
the
pandemic
is
over,
then
last
saturday
evening
I
attended
the
fremont
union
high
school
district
band
expo
where
the
five
district
high
schools
performed.
That
was
a
great
show
and
it
was
great
to
see
the
student
musicians
back
performing.
F
F
My
son
was
in
band
at
cupertino
high
school
for
four
years,
all
four
years,
and
actually
now
he
is
assistant
band
director
at
homestead,
high
school
and
so
that's
always
exciting
to
see
a
former
band
member
come
back
and
teach
in
the
district.
So
hopefully
a
lot
of
people
can
come
out
and
support
the
band.
They
depend
on
tournament
of
bands
to
fund
the
band
program.
A
You
very
much
former
council
member
and
mayor
scharf.
I
really
appreciate
you
coming
out
today
and
for
your
support
over
the
years
for
tournament
advance
and
hopefully
the
public
will
be
able
to
enjoy
it
for
many
more
years
to
come.
All
right.
Thank
you,
yeah!
Absolutely
so
we
are
on
to
item
number.
Two
item
number
two
is
a
proclamation
in
recognition
of
domestic
violence
awareness
month
and
from
nextdoor
solutions.
We
have
esther
perales
diekmann
and
from
women
sv.
A
A
G
H
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you,
council
members.
We're
really
happy
to
be
here
this
evening
with
women.
In
best
v
silicon
valley.
We
have
partner
agencies
all
over
santa
clara
county.
I'm
here
tonight
to
also
speak
on
behalf
of
the
domestic
violence
advocacy
consortium.
We
are
the
four
certified
domestic
violence,
shelter-based
agencies
and
one
agency
that
operates
transitional
housing.
We
operate
365
days
a
year,
24
hours
a
day
and
run
hotlines.
If
anyone
needs
help,
you
can
call
211
to
ask
to
be
connected
with
the
domestic
violence
agency.
H
H
This
is
the
50th
year
of
next
door,
solutions
to
domestic
violence.
We
are
the
oldest
and
largest
provider
of
domestic
violence
services
in
santa
clara
county.
We
serve
from
palo
alto,
all
the
way
down
to
gilroy
and
beyond
those
borders
as
well.
We
are,
as
my
colleague
mentioned,
one
in
three
women.
One
in
seven
men
will
experience
intimate
partner
violence.
H
We
invite
everyone
to
join
us
for
a
county-wide,
walk
to
end
domestic
violence,
to
be
held
at
the
city
of
san
jose
city
hall,
outside
at
the
rotunda,
we're
going
to
be
lighting
up
the
tower
in
purple
and
everyone
is
invited
to
be
part
of
that
walk,
we'll
be
talking
about
domestic
violence,
issues
and
services
and
initiatives
in
the
community.
So
we
just
want
to
thank
you
mayor,
and
we
want
to
thank
everyone
out
there
for
their
support
throughout
the
year
of
all
the
domestic
violence
partners
that
are
out
there
together.
H
A
A
Now,
although
before
we
go
to
that,
there
is
postponements
and
orders
of
the
day,
an
item
that
I've
added
this
year
in
order
to
check
in
with
council
to
see
if
there
are
any
requests
for
reordering
the
agenda
or
otherwise
related
to
the
agenda
and
I'll
go
by
a
show
of
hands.
Typically,
we
don't,
but
sometimes
you
know,
someone
might
want
something
moved
up
a
little
bit
or
you
know
otherwise
ordered
so
no
hands
with
that
and
so
I'll
go
on
to
members
of
the
public.
This
is
oral
communications.
A
Oral
communications
refers
to
anything
that
is
not
agendized,
and
so,
if
you
have
anything
that
you'd
like
to
speak
to,
that
is
on
our
enumerated
agenda
tonight.
Please
save
that
for
when
we
get
to
that
agenda
item.
Otherwise
oral
communications
is
where
you
can
speak
to
anything.
That
is
not
on
the
agenda.
You'll
have
three.
I
A
J
J
If
you
feel
that
the
democratic
party
has
been
overrun
with
all
left
groups
and
is
not
going
in
the
direction
you
agree
with,
you
can
change
parties
become
an
independent.
If
you
want,
the
democratic
party
seems
to
be
going
in
a
totalitarian
direction
as
they
take
away
local
control
and
try
to
run
the
state
from
cal
from
sacramento.
J
J
This
totalitarian
group
in
the
democratic
party
working
to
centralize
power
in
sacramento
was
also
operating
in
oregon
and
apparently
trying
to
take
over
seattle.
Also,
are
we
going
to
see
this
totalitarian
group
trying
to
take
over
the
country,
too?
Is
washington
d.c
going
to
be
a
target?
Also
again,
I
could
say
if
the
democratic
party
in
california
is
not
meeting
your
needs,
because
it
has
been
taken
over
by
totalitarian
element
that
has
produced
sb9,
sb10
and
ab1401.
J
A
K
I
have
a
lot
of
stipulation
at
least,
and
so
we
actually
asked
the
the
city
yes
provide
attorney
since
we
under
actually
the
residents
paid
a
tax
dollar
for
the
the
city
or
the
city
servants,
and
so
we
we
are
actually
legally
actually
should
have
some
help
on
our
parties.
Our
site
councils
do
not
stop
being
doing
a
process,
and
another
thing
we
want
is,
I'm
sorry
more
transparent.
K
This
is
the
there's
a
special
communication
within
outside
attorneys,
with
your
kind
stuff
and
for
us
as
a
resident.
We
suppose
we
should
have
a
more
priority
than
that
and
the
thing
is
we
also
like
to
talk
to
the
city
manager
again
as
the
management
office
and
including
all
the
staff
they're,
the
servants
for
the
city
residents
with
a
long-term
city,
lessons
within
high-tech
all
the
time
to
the
city,
all
this
people.
So
we
also
like
to
directly
talk
them.
We've
been
asking
for
moses.
K
Now
we
haven't
been
able
to
get
to
that
and
and
another
thing
that
we
request
to
have
different
outside
counsel,
because
it
sounds
like
they
are
not
really
working
for
the
wrestlers
a
lot
of
times
actually
a
lot
of
times,
their
own
wing
and
purpose.
As
the
legal
paper,
you
can
see,
dtc
and
winning
the
more
important
and
winning.
So
those
are
the
points
I'm
like
to
accounts
to
come
from
the
city.
To
consider
and
again,
I
thanks
for
everybody.
A
The
two
things
I'd
like
to
report
right
now
are
that
over
the
course
of
the
last
week
I
did
send
a
number
of
veto
and
signature
requests
and
follow
on
to
the
work
that
the
legislative
review
committee
has
done
over
the
course
of
this,
this
last
legislative
term
for
the
state.
So
I'm
very
appreciative
of
vice
mayor
chow
and
council
member
moore
for
their
work
done
there.
We
followed
up
in
accordance
with
our
positions
taken
with
those
types
of
letters.
A
In
the
midst
of
that,
though,
a
a
couple
of
students
wrote
me,
and
at
least
council
member
moore,
as
well
asking
for
support
for
being
able
to
provide
menstrual
products
in
in
the
schools.
Because
of
you
know
various
issues
and
it
turned
out.
In
fact,
any
council
member
moore
pointed
this
out
that
there's
already
legislation
awaiting
the
governor's
signature
there
and
so
for
ab366.
A
I
I
wrote
just
on
my
own
behalf,
a
letter
to
the
governor
asking
for
a
signature
there.
The
other
item
that
I'd
like
to
report
out
on,
as
promised,
I
did
try
to
lead
by
example,
I've
written
a
mayor's
corner
column,
which
I
will
submit
to
the
city
clerk.
If
you'd
like
to
see
it,
it
will
at
least
be
available
in
the
updated
communications
accompanying
this
meeting
in
our
in
our
website.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Councilmember
willie's
next.
D
One
more
thing
is:
I
did
attend
the
us,
silicon
valley,
central
chamber
of
commerce,
the
state
of
the
city.
They
hosted
right
in
cupertino
at
the
higher
house.
That's
why
I
participated
where
senator
josh,
becker
and
assembly
member
alex
lee
and
very
interesting
county
a
censor,
assessor
larry
stone.
They
reported
on
economic
outlook
and
property
tax
issues,
so
that
was
very
interesting.
M
Hi
everyone.
So
last
saturday
I
attended
a
rally
in
front
of
the
city
hall
hosted
by
some
cosd
parents
to
plead
to
not
close
schools.
During
the
pandemic
and
later
I
find
out
that
novato,
unified
school
district
in
marin
county
actually
held
the
legally
suggested
the
7-eleven
committee
citizens
advisory
meeting
since
january.
M
Yet
after
several
meetings
in
may,
they
decided
to
not
close
schools
in
the
middle
of
pandemic
because
of
the
psychological
effect
that
we
have
on
children
and
they
there
are
also
revenue,
limited
districts
and
very
with
very
even
worse,
financial
situation
situation
than
we
are.
But
then
they,
their
superintendent
said
they
want
to
focus
on
recovering
and
attracting
more
students
back
to
the
school
district
rather
than
further
dividing
the
community.
M
A
N
A
N
A
A
Although
technically
the
league
of
california
cities
is
not
a
formal
committee
assignment,
it
does
meet
in
its
annual
meeting
of
all
the
cities
that
are
members
which
are
most
of
the
cities
in
in
california,
and
so
it
was
a
very
good
opportunity
to
interface
with
you
know,
other
elected
officials
and
other
officials
throughout
the
state.
So
during
that
time,
the
west
valley,
mayors
and
managers
met,
and,
of
course
that
was
virtual.
A
That
was
the
time
where
I
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
briefly
with
our
other
cities
in
the
west
valley
and
shared
notes
on
things
like
what
everyone
is
doing
with
regard
to.
You
know
sb9,
for
instance,
on
not
just
as
it
pertains
to
the
housing
element,
but
potentially
within
the
allowances
of
the
wall
of
the
law,
to
implement
our
own.
You
know,
city
or
town
based
legislation
prior
to
the
end
of
the
calendar
year.
A
A
There
was
ransom,
demanded
some
bitcoin,
you
know
was
paid
earlier
in
the
year
right
before
bitcoin
plummeted,
so
that
was
you
know,
rather
satisfying
to
see
to
a
degree,
but
in
the
aftermath
of
that
we're
actually
trying
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
beef
up.
All
of
the
you
know
various
protections
and
making
sure
that
we
don't
have
a
you
know.
Another
attack
like
that
subsequent
to
that
the
vta
board
meant
that
was
basically
very
clerical.
A
Given
our
current
meeting
situation,
agencies
have
to
on
a
month-by-month
basis
at
this
point,
every
30
days
specifically
meet
in
order
to
empower
our
ability
to
meet
virtually,
and
so
I
actually
had
a
question
about
that
immediately
after
the
29th.
But
lo
and
behold
I
did
receive
from
our
staff
our
draft
agenda
at
that
point,
and
I
realized
that
they
had
already
put
that
on
there
and
that
that's
on
our
consent
calendar
for
tonight
to
empower
our
ability
to
have
the
virtual
meeting,
like
we
have
this
evening
for
the
upcoming
30-day
period.
N
Thank
you,
mayor
paul.
I
just
want
to
mention
that
I
was
also
at
the
the
league
of
california
city's
annual
conference
and
for
the
the
previous
two
years.
I
had
attended
the
the
planning
commission
conferences
and
it
was.
It
was
quite
a
bit
different,
feel
between
between
the
two
and
and
I
really
appreciated,
getting
to
see,
see
the
difference
after
having
attended
the
planning
commission
ones
that
I
really
enjoyed
the
large
expo
hall,
I'm
getting
to
speak
to
many
of
our
vendors
that
we've
seen.
N
There
were
crosswalk
some
new
kind
of
to
me
and
kind
of
new
inventions
on
how
to
get
the
the
crosswalk
being
lit
at
night
problems
solved,
which
I
thought
was
pretty
innovative
and
maybe
there's
some
place
where
we
could
use
that
in
the
future.
One
meeting
in
particular
stuck
out
to
me,
and
it
was
tackling
the
housing
crisis
role
of
local
leaders.
N
They
had
representatives
from
west
sacramento
palm
springs,
culver
city,
I
believe-
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
really
stuck
out
was
that
our
situation
with
our
sp
35
project
has
not
been
verbalized
widely
and
what
I'm
hearing
are
communities
which
are
upset
about
their
sb
35
projects,
but
by
a
comparison
they
are
so
much
smaller
and
they'll.
Talk
about
how
maybe
150
units
are
coming
in
by
right,
whereas
we
have
this
project,
which
is
almost
10
million
square
feet
in
the
2400
units
by
right.
N
So
I
do
hope
that
we
have
a
voice
in
the
future
that
other
people
get
to
know
that
there
that
these
some
of
these
projects,
that
they're
that
they're
very
upset
about,
are
so
much
different
from
what
we're
experiencing
here
and
let
people
know
how
far
that
the
the
the
way
the
law
is
written
can
be
stretched
with
regards
to
the
size
of
a
project.
Thank
you.
L
So
the
fbi
got
involved,
they
got
search
warrants
and
they
have
shut
it
down,
but
I
think
this
goes
to
you
know.
Let
us
all
know
times
have
changed.
We
all
need
to
be
on
the
be
aware,
you
know,
mayor
paul
talked
about
the
other
event
that
had
happened
in
a
ransom
bean
page
times
have
changed,
so
hopefully
we
can,
you
know,
address
these
as
they
arise
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that
for
tonight.
Thank
you.
M
And
then
there
were
some
oppositions
for
that,
and
mainly
is
because
each
of
these
caucuses
have
not
actually
reached
out
to
the
members,
because
many
many
latino
laborers
don't
even
get
information
from
their
latino
caucus.
So
they
they
object
because
that
rep
doesn't
really
represent
the
entire
membership.
So
there
are
some
in
improvement
to
be
done
from
the
structure
of
caucus
and
the
two
resolutions.
One
is
a
research
two.
M
The
second
one
is
relevant
to
cupertino
is
a
sales
tax
redistribution
that
will
resist
to
build
sales
tax
to
the
point
of
purchase
purchase
rather
than
the
point
of
the
the
warehouse.
So
a
lot
of
cities
with
warehouse
will
be
losing
revenue
so
for
that
one
the
they
voted
to
postpone
it,
so
that
there
will
be
more
discussion
next
year,
and
I
I
okay.
D
Way
very
briefly,
so
to
follow
on
the
cal
cities
conference
I
want
to
follow
through
with
vice
mayor
child
for
the
apa
I
joined
the
api
caucus
in
the
witness
caucus
of
curfew.
I
think
representation
at
the
cal
city.
Sport
is
very
important
for
these
two
and
and,
of
course,
lgbtq
and
the
latino
caucus,
and
also
to
follow
up
council
member
moore.
The
expo
is,
is
very
interesting
and
we
walk
around
and
talk
to
a
lot
of
vendors
and
a
lot
of
them
recognize
cupertino
city.
D
A
O
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
members
of
the
council,
two
brief
updates.
First
on
the
covid
response,
the
situation
continues
to
get
slightly
better.
California
is
the
only
state
at
the
moderate
level
of
transmission.
The
seven
day
average
of
cases
in
santa
clara
county
has
actually
dropped
from
just
under
200
to
165.
O
So
that's
moving
in
the
right
direction
and
cupertino
continues
to
have
the
lowest
case
rate
per
hundred
thousand
residents
in
santa
clara
county
testing
has
resumed
in
cupertino
we've
had
two
days
and
we
have
another
one
coming
on
monday
october
18th.
These
are
run
by
the
county
at
the
cupertino
senior
center
and
on
october
4th
we
actually
had
400
tests
given,
and
what
was
interesting
is
that
130
of
those
were
children
under
the
age
of
18
who
had
suspected
exposure.
O
There
is
continuing
news
and
movement
on
vaccination.
Booster,
shots
and
residents
are
encouraged
to
pursue
boosters
when
they're
eligible
to
do
so.
One
item
that
has
not
changed
is
masks
are
still
required
in
santa
clara
county
for
indoor
wearing,
whether
you're
vaccinated
or
not
so
any
use
of
city
facilities,
restaurants
and
the
like,
except
when
you're,
actively
eating
or
drinking,
you
need
to
wear
a
mask
and
that
continues
to
be
the
law
of
the
county.
O
Moving
to
more
positive
news,
we
have
a
number
of
events
coming
up
that
I
wanted
to
share
with
the
council
and
community
shakespeare
in
the
park
returns
to
the
memorial
park
amphitheater
this
weekend
on
october,
8th
9th
and
10th
at
4
p.m.
With
the
performance
of
pericles
prince
of
tire
and
it's
approximately
a
90-minute
show
and
admission
is
free.
O
Last
announcement
is
monster
mash
coming
up
on
friday
october
29th
from
7
to
8,
30
p.m,
and
this
kid-friendly
halloween
bash
is
for
parents
and
children
where
the
children
are
12
years
old
or
younger,
and
I
mention
that
now
because
pre-registration
is
required
at
the
city,
parks
and
recreation
site,
so
just
wanted
to
encourage
families
to
register
for
monster
mash.
That
concludes
the
staffs
report.
Mr
mayor.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
interim
city
manager.
Let's
go
on
to
the
consent
calendar.
Those
are
items
six
through
eight
on
our
agenda.
I
don't
see
any
hands
raised
with
regard
to
the
consent
calendar
either
from
the
public
or
from
the
council
at
this
time.
Let
me
give
people
a
moment
if
they
do
wish
to
pull
an
item.
A
Seeing
none
I'll
go
ahead
and
ask
council.
Would
anyone
like
to
move
items
six
through
eight
on
the
consent,
calendar
council,
member
more
so
moved
and
council
member
way?
Second
excellent,
madam
city
clerk,
if
you
would
please
conduct
the
roll
call
vote
on
the
consent,
calendar
items
six
through
eight.
C
B
A
Great
all
right
we're
on
to
public
hearings.
This
is
item
number
nine.
It's
the
consideration
of
an
appeal
of
the
planning
commission's
decision
to
uphold
the
director
of
community
development's
approval
of
a
two-story
permit
to
allow
a
new
two
thousand
nine
hundred
ninety
two
square
foot:
two
star
two-story
home
with
a
746
square
foot
attached
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
a
minor
residential
permit
to
allow
a
new
115
square
foot;
second
story
balcony
and
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
begin.
N
I
did
go
visit
the
site
and
I
did
not
speak
to
the
residents
there,
but
I
did
go
out
in
and
look
at
it
and
I
just
have
a
brief
comment
on
the
on
the
staff
report.
It
would
help
me
if
the
north
arrow
was
placed
on
every
single
drawing
to
orient
myself.
It
would
have
made
it
a
little
bit
easier,
but
other
than
that
I
could
figure
it
out
once
I
got
there.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
And
so
let
me
briefly
go
over
the
flow
of
the
hearing.
Now
that
we've
had
the
site
visits
reported
out,
the
staff
reports
and
recommendations
will
be
presented.
We
on
council
will
ask
clarifying
questions
after
that
there
will
be
an
opportunity
for
the
appellate
to
make
a
presentation.
That's
up
to
10
minutes.
The
council
will
ask
questions
after
that.
A
Q
Q
The
project
consists
of
a
two-story
permit
to
left
for
a
new
2992
square
foot
two-story
home
with
a
746
square
foot
attached
adu,
as
well
as
a
minor
residential
permit,
to
allow
for
a
second
story.
Balcony
the
single
family,
residential
or
r1
ordinance
requires
both
permit
types
to
undergo
administrative
review.
With
the
decision
made
by
the
director
of
community
development,
the
code
also
requires
any
appeals
for
these
projects
to
be
heard
by
planning
commission
followed
by
city
council.
Q
For
context,
I'll
provide
a
brief
overview
of
the
project
timeline.
With
more
details
available
in
the
staff
report
on
november
29th
2020,
the
applicant
submitted
an
application
for
proposed
two-story
residence
with
attached
adu
and
second-story
balcony
staff
conducted
a
review
of
the
proposed
project
and
found
it
to
be
complete
on
february
22nd
2021,
the
required
two-week
public
comment
period
took
place
from
march
5th
through
the
19th,
and
we
received
11
comments
during
this
time.
Q
Q
Q
Staff
conducted
a
review
of
the
existing
homes
within
a
one
block
radius
surrounding
the
project
area,
as
well
as
a
larger
portion
of
the
montevista
south
neighborhood.
In
a
separate
study,
both
reviews
indicated
that
the
surrounding
neighborhood
is
transitional
and
has
a
mix
of
single-story
and
two-story
residences.
Q
The
figure
here
highlights
the
two-story
residences
in
yellow
within
the
immediate
surrounding
area.
37.5
percent
of
the
surrounding
homes
are
two-story
residences,
with
an
average
floor
area
of
approximately
2
800
square
feet.
The
proposed
2992
square
foot
two-story
home
is
therefore
comparable
in
size
to
the
existing
homes
in
the
surrounding
area.
Q
Q
Additionally,
the
project
complies
with
all
development
regulations
for
our
1
6
zone
properties,
including
floor
area
ratio,
first
floor
building,
envelope,
setbacks
and
building
height.
The
proposed
attached
adu
also
complies
with
the
site
development
regulations
of
the
adu
ordnance,
including
setbacks,
height
and
size.
Q
The
project
complies
with
the
r1
orion's
height
limitations
by
proposing
a
23
foot
residence
where
maximum
building
height
of
28
is
allowed,
and
the
code
does
measure
total
building
height
from
natural
grade
of
the
existing
property,
but
it
does
not
account
for
grade
differences
between
adjoining
homes.
The
project
therefore
complies
with
the
height
limitations
of
the
r1
ordnance.
Q
Q
The
r1
ordinance
does
allow
property
owners
the
ability
to
construct
second
story
windows
and
balconies.
As
long
as
privacy
screenings
are
installed
and
maintained,
the
applicant
has
proposed
seven
laura's
nobilis,
which
is
one
of
the
city's
approved
privacy
planting
species
to
screen
the
second
story,
balcony
and
second
story
windows
along
the
rear
property
line.
Q
Privacy,
plantings
for
the
right
and
left
property
lines
are
not
required,
since
the
applicant
has
obtained
a
signed
privacy
waiver
form
from
the
adjacent
property
owners
and
as
a
note,
the
code
does
not
require
privacy
plantings
for
the
first
floor.
Privacy
plantings
are
considered
protected
trees
and
shall
be
protected
and
maintained
by
a
record
covenant
against
the
property.
Q
There's
there
are
several
other
points
raised
by
the
raised
in
the
appeal
and
one
of
the
appellant
states
that
the
adu
is
planned
to
be
a
separate
unit.
Even
though
it's
attached
to
the
main
residence
over
the
long
run.
The
applicant
has
not
demonstrated
that
the
adu
and
maine
residents
will
continue
to
be
separate.
Q
The
proposed
adu
complies
with
state
law,
as
well
as
the
development
regulations
in
the
adu
ordinance
and
as
required
by
the
ordinance.
The
attached
adu
must
remain
separate
from
the
principal
dwelling
unit,
and
this
requirement
has
also
been
added
as
a
condition
of
approval
and
will
be
recorded
with
a
covenant
placed
on
the
property.
Q
A
L
Q
L
The
next
question,
then,
is
with
the
privacy
screen.
I
believe
when
you
showed
us
the
top
planned
view
of
the
adjacent
neighbors,
so
one
neighbor
is
directly
behind
which
would
be
addressed
by
the
privacy
plan
planting
on
the
back
property
line,
the
neighbor
that
would
be
one
house
over,
though,
would
apparently
you
know,
it
seems
to
me
he's
not
going
to
receive
any
privacy
planning.
Maybe
you
can
pop
that
picture
back
up,
join
the
top
view
and
then
the
question
becomes:
does
privacy
planting
not
apply
to
adjacent
houses
behind?
Q
L
And
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
45,
whereas
in
the
picture
you
just
showed
us,
you
know
it
just
went
to
the
property
corner.
But
if,
if
the
privacy
screening
is
for
the
45
degree,
then
it
would
be
looking
in
the
adjacent
rear
property
owner's
yard.
You
know
the
the
privacy
screening
would
only
capture
a
corner
of
his
his
property.
Q
Q
However,
this
adjacent
home
here,
one
four,
nine
three-
will
be
protected
by
the
row
of
loris
nobilis
in
the
rear,
as
well
as
these
two
here
only
connect
at
a
point,
rather
than
an
entire
property
line,
and
this
home
should
be
connected,
should
be
protected.
Sorry
by
this
corner
tree
that
was
shown
on
the
preview
well,.
L
E
Q
L
A
Okay,
thank
you,
councilman
really,
so
I'm
putting
people
on
three
minutes,
and
I
I
seated
over
a
couple
of
my
minutes
because
I
think
a
lot
of
these
informational
questions
are
are
good.
For
you
know
the
group
and
likely
are
to
answer
some
questions
that
other
council
members
may
have
as
well.
So
next
we
have
council,
member
moore
and
I'll
just
remind
everyone
that
right
now
it's
clarifying
questions
with
regard
to
the
presentation
and
we'll
deliberate.
N
Okay,
thank
you.
I
was
just
concerned
about
the
trees
and
what
would
be
removed
and
and
altered
with
this
loris
nobilis
saratoga,
which
I
guess
is
a
is
a
laurel
of
some
sort.
I
was
wondering
if
someone
could
give
an
estimate
of
what
the
height
is
on
these
there's
a
juniper
that's
mentioned,
and
an
existing
lagers
leger
stromia
indica
along
the
rear
property,
because
I
I
did
notice
the
trees
I
could
see
them
up
over
the
house.
N
I
was
wondering
what
the
size
is
and
then,
with
regards
to
the
loris
nobilis,
what
what
I'm
seeing
is
a
very
slow
growth
rate
on
that
tree.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
something
that
the
that
both
both
parties
are
are
agreeing
to
and
because
there's
there
are
issues
with
when
you
share
a
tree
hedge,
essentially
with
your
neighbor,
depending
on
its
growth
pattern.
It
could
be
something
that
is
a
is
a
maintenance
issue
for
the
neighbor
on
the
other
side
of
the
property
down
the
road.
N
So
I'm
wondering
if
that,
if
that
was
agreed
upon
and
then
also
on
trees
on
the
on
the
street
side
on
primrose,
there
is
a
very
large
existing
50-inch
tree
and
and
then
an
existing
birch,
I'm
wondering
if
the
intention
is
to
retain
those
or
or
alter
those
in
the
future,
because
one
of
them
is
was
really
quite
large.
Thank
you.
Q
Q
I
believe
that
at
least
one
of
them
is
not
evergreen,
which
is
one
of
our
requirements.
However,
there
is
there's
always
the
option
for
the
affected
property
owners
to
modify
the
the
required
privacy
protection
trees.
So
we
can
either
go
with
what
is
being
proposed,
which
is
the
seven
lars
nobilis
or
if
the
adjacent
affected
property
owner
wishes
to
modify.
We
do
have
a
modification
form
and
they
could
indicate
specifically
how
they
wish
to
modify
on
that
form.
N
But
but
when
you
mention
modification
that
concerns
me,
if,
if
there
was
a
way
that
they
could
modify
the
adu
such
that,
what
looks
like
a
living
room
when
you
enter
in
the
front
door
on
the
left,
which
is
which
would
have
the
firewall
behind
it?
If
there,
if
there
is
the
ability
to
modify
the
plan
at
some
point
to
take
that
the
living
room
space
and
add
it
into
a
more
traditional
floor
plan,
where
you
have
the
living
room
and
the
dining
room
upon
entering
the
home.
N
N
Q
So
I
I
don't
actually
think
that
would
be
possible,
because
I
don't
think
that
the
main
home
would
therefore
meet
the
setback.
Regulations
of
the
r1
right
now
the
adu
has
more
relaxed
setback
restrictions,
and
so
that's
what
allows
for
the
four
foot
setback
on
that
side.
If
it
were
to
be
converted
to
the
main
home,
they
would
need
to.
Q
N
A
Sorry,
I
don't
have
any
more
time
to
see
it
over.
Okay.
More
so
let
me
move
on
we're.
I
think,
we're
probably
under
allocating
the
time
for
this
item.
We
initially
anticipated
half
an
hour,
but
let
me
go
on
to
a
council
member
way,
followed
by
by
smart
child
for
clarifying
questions
of
the
presenters.
D
D
M
Q
M
So
it
could
be,
the
neighbor
could
file
a
complaint
and
the
ct
can
find
the
property
owner
so
that
they
they
will
replant
it
okay
and
then
do
they
have
to
be
of
a
certain
height
so
that
they
they
provide
that
screening,
service
or
purpose
or
they
don't
have
to
be
in
order
to
not
get
a
code
violation.
Citation.
Q
M
Q
Sure
so
for
for
this
particular
project,
I
believe
the
finished
floor
of
the
balcony
is
approximately
11
or
11
and
a
half
feet
from
finish
grade
and
for
the
loris
nobilis.
They
are
considered
a
privacy
shrub
any
of
our
required
privacy.
Shrubs
have
to
have
a
minimum
height
of
six
feet
when
planted
so
so
they
do
meet
the
code
of
of
planting
the
shrubs.
Q
M
The
tree
is
six
feet.
That's
most
fences
are
six
to
eight
feet,
so
this
tree
is
shorter
than
the
fence,
so
it
doesn't
provide
any
screening
for
the
neighboring
property.
So
I
don't
understand
and
then
my
question
is:
do
we
require
a
higher
privacy
screening
higher
tree
height
for
someone
who
are
installing
a
balcony.
Q
M
R
A
The
applicant
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
after
the
appellate.
The
appellant,
I
should
say,
gives
a
presentation,
so
you
can
ask
your
questions
at
that
point.
So
at
this
point
we
have
the
appellant
with
a
presentation
that
can
be
provided
up
to
10
minutes,
and
let
me
clarify
this
with
the
city
attorney.
A
A
Okay,
so
yeah,
that's
what
I
thought
it
was.
I
happened
to
see
a
peli
in
my
in
my
notes,
however,
so
thank
you
for
that
clarification,
so
the
appellant
at
this
point
has
an
opportunity
to
provide
a
presentation
and
then
again,
council
has
the
chance
to
ask
questions
of
the
appellant
after
their
presentations,
after
which
time
the
applicant
has
an
opportunity
to
respond
so
with
the
appellant
like
to
provide
a
presentation
at
this
point.
T
T
That
the
mayor's
vice
mayor
and
all
the
city
council
members
and
I
am
the
home
owner
of
1493
puppyway
and
I
think
thank
you
vice
mayor-
to
bring
up
a
lot
of
questions.
And
actually
that's
also
my
concern
too,
that
my
biggest
concern
now
is
not
the
size
of
the
property.
But
it's
my
privacy
and
based
on
what
the
vice
mayor
just
kept
asking
that
currently
that
the
the
the
privacy
screening
plan
is
not
going
to
provide
me
any
privacy.
T
A
The
appellant
has
provided
up
to
10
minutes.
Is
there
anybody
else
on
behalf
of
the
appellant
that
wanted
to
speak
you're
only
at
about
one
and
a
half
minutes
into
that
ten
minutes,
if
not
I'll,
provide
an
opportunity
for
our
city
council
to
ask
questions
of
the
appellant,
and
I
see
that
vice
mayor
ciao
has
her
hand
raised
vice
mayor
ciao,.
U
Welcome
I
apologize.
I
didn't
understand
the
question
darcy.
Can
I
then
continue,
but
please
do.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
Well,
er
er
eric
has
already
given
a
good
presentation
of
the
position
there
and
I
think
I've
already
articulated.
On
my
side.
I
live
adjacent
45
degrees
to
the
left
of
the
the
property
in
discussion.
Here
I
live
in
a
two-story
building.
U
U
There
is
a
mixture
of
single
and
double
story,
but
that
is
really
really
driven
by
the
fight
for
difference
between
both
roads
and
that
five
foot
difference,
I
think,
is
a
a
pretty
critical
discussion
we
all
need
to
have
now,
even
though,
even
though
the
height
of
the
building
has
been
reduced
down
to
23
feet,
you
know
we
still
have
this
five-foot
gradient.
We
all
need
to
speak
about
from
where
I
stand.
You
know.
U
U
We've
talked
about
privacy
trees,
but
again,
that's
three
years
away
and
there's
obviously
discussions
about
how
high
these
these
privacy,
trees
or
or
bushes
will
actually
grow.
I
mean
one
thing
not
mentioned.
I
think
by
erica
is
you
know
we
do
have
utility
lines
running
along
the
along
the
back
of
the
property
there
at
a
certain
height
which
is
below,
I
believe,
it's
below
the
height
of
the
balcony.
Well,
you
know,
I
believe
there
are
restrictions
in
terms
of
how
high
you
can
actually
grow
these
plants
near
utility
lines.
U
U
U
So
I'm
very
concerned
there
as
well,
I'm
still
concerned
by
the
way
I
heard
erica's
line
of
arguments.
I
still
have
very
concerns
about
the
adu
as
well.
You
know
I
still
haven't
seen
major
evidence
that
over
the
long
term,
this
is
not
going
to
be
abused.
Sure
I
mean
you
know
short
term.
They
can
do
things,
but
over
the
long
term
I
I
still
haven't
seen
you
have
any
evidence
that
it's
not
going
to
be
abused.
U
M
U
U
N
N
And
I'm
just
I'm
wanted
to
see.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
I
wanted
to
see
see
the
windows
it
looks
like
there.
We
have
some
french
doors
glass,
french
doors-
I
I
know
they're
being
shown
with
with
screens,
but
those
would
be
clear
glass
does
someone
know
off
the
top
of
their
head?
The
the
width
of
that
second
story
edition
up
there,
the
second
story,
how
wide
that
is
across.
N
P
N
Okay,
okay
and
it
and
it
seemed
like
they
could
have
gone
much
wider.
If
I
understand
the
setback
rules-
okay,
okay
and
they've-
already
scaled
it
back
quite
a
bit.
So
if
they
to
me,
if
they
went
to
the
five
foot
sill
height
on
the
windows,
you'd
still
have
the
french
doors,
with
the
full
full
full
floor-to-ceiling
window.
That
would
be
correct.
N
N
A
A
A
E
V
W
Okay,
thank
you,
yeah
the
respected
cupertino
city,
mayor
council,
member
and
opportunity
residence
good
evening,
I'm
shawn
hafiz
and
my
husband,
barry
khan,
have
been
peacefully
living
with
our
neighbors
at
1506,
primrose
cupertino
since
2005
and
our
family
got
bigger
my
already
parents
living
with
me
my
children,
my
daughter-in-law,
as
well
as
grandkids
on
the
way
a
small
house
cannot
accommodate
my
big
family.
This
is
necessary
to
build.
This
house
is
not
a
luxury
we
have
discussed
with
our
neighbors
and
have
got
overwhelming
support
for
the
construction.
W
W
We
submitted
our
first
design
to
this
okay
and
september
2020
that
met
all
cupertino
city
rules,
regulation
and
code
and
was
approved
by
the
kupatan
city
planning
commission.
After
this
first
submission,
we
had
multiple
division
of
the
design
to
respect
and
meet
the
back
neighbor
concern.
Along
with
the
city's
comment,
we
modified
the
house
design
reducing
the
high
23
feet.
Even
the
city
allowed
28
feet,
adu
800
to
746
square
feet
along
with
the
privacy
plan.
We
finally
received
the
city
approval
april
2021
after
much
backend
for
the
discussion.
W
W
Four
two
story-
home
house,
number,
1260,
1272
and
1320
and
beginning
of
the
primrose
way
and
rainbow
drive-
is
another
two-story
home
and
sticks
to
story
home
in
front
of
our
house,
which
one
is
the
waterford
drive
and
27
two-story
home
on
the
popeye,
which
one
is
the
back
of
my
house.
Additionally,
there
is
a
two
two
stone
home
recently
built
in
our
neighborhood
2018.
W
With
the
square
feet.
4086
square
feet
and
address
is
7411
wildflower
weight.
There
are
many
homes
in
our
neighborhood
that
are
begin
to
story.
Our
final
city
approved
plan
the
first
for
only
1551
square
feet
that
is
460
square
feet
upstairs
only
930
square
feet
with
this
square
feet
is
not
enough
for
my
big
family,
I'm
not
requesting
anything
extra.
The
reason
why
I'm
highlighting
all
this
different
home
is
that
I
want
to
same
right
that
other
members
of
the
community
at
the
building
two
story
home
next
slide.
Please
addressing
the
privacy
concern.
W
We
hired
landscape
designer
and
submitted
the
participant
to
the
address
our
back
neighbor
concerned
directly,
although
the
lot
of
tall
tree
in
our
backyard
that
will
block
any
view,
please
see
the
below
the
backyard
trees
next
slide,
please,
after
the
city
permit.
We
should
be
happy
to
put
the
sign
in
front
of
our
house
that
state
that
we
are
building
this
house,
but
unfortunately
putting
the
sign
means
up
that
we
have
public
hearing
against
our
back
neighbor,
which
makes
us
so
upset
and
breaks
our
heart
next
slide.
Please
it
should
not
be
this
way.
W
Neighbors
and
members
of
our
community
should
be
good
friends.
While
we
share
and
offer
support,
we
have
met
all
the
city
rules
regulation
approved
code.
Even
we
have
privacy
plan
to
maintain
our
neighbor
privacy
after
meeting
all
the
city's
code
regulation
rules.
If
we
cannot
build
this
home,
then
it
will
affect
our
neighbors
relationship,
our
community
literally
better
example
for
our
kids
and
next
generation.
W
W
M
Thank
you
for
making
so
many
improvements
on
your
design
already
working
with
the
staff
to
make
the
design
much
better,
and
I
and
thank
you
for
the
image
of
the
backyard
tree.
So
it
looks
like
there
is
already
quite
privacy
screening
already.
So
are
you
planning
to
keep
those
trees
or
are
they
going
to
be
replaced.
W
V
And
also
we
are
living
16
years
with
them
and
in
16
years
we
don't
have
any
single
issue
issue
on
privacy
or
anything
else.
We
can.
You
can
ask
them,
we
don't
have
anything.
If
we
lived
peacefully
16
years.
There
is
no
privacy
issue,
I
don't
think
so.
There
will
be
any
privacy,
but
whatever
they
want,
we
can
prove
that
privacy
plan
on
our
backyard.
If
we
can
keep
this
tree,
if
they
want
the
bigger
tea,
we
can.
V
V
M
V
W
W
M
M
M
W
D
Number
way,
so
my
question
is:
I
can
see
that
this
house's
design
has
been
com,
you
know
changed,
the
window
is
smaller
and
if
we
continue
to
ask
that
to
change
windows,
the
window
sizes
are
standard.
I
just
think
that
I
get
the
privacy
concerns
and
I
think
I
can
see
that
they're
very
accommodating,
but
this
house
is
absolutely
conforming
to
all
our
standards
even
more
so
and
and-
and
I
think
the
neighborhood
is
also
two-story-
that's
diagnosis,
so
I
I
just
think
it
it.
D
It
would
be
too
much
for
us
to
continue
asking
to
for
them
to
reduce
this,
reduce
that
if
it's
conforming
and
they
already
did
their
job,
I
feel
that
they
are
pretty
accommodating
to
the
neighbors
request.
They
want
to
be
good
neighbors,
so
if
they're
willing
to
reduce
the
balcony
a
little
bit
just
to
accommodate,
I
just
don't
think
the
council
has
done.
D
V
N
V
N
L
C
L
That
that
area
that
area
there
would
prevent
the
the
balcony
which
the
homeowner
would
like
to
have
it'll
keep
it
from
being,
I
think
from
really
exposing
the
the
neighbor.
You
know
his
concern
and
yeah
so
does
the
it.
Would
the
homeowner
be
willing
to
to
extend
that
up
the
side,
a
little
ways
to
protect
that
rear,
neighbor.
V
R
L
I
L
A
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you
councilmember
way
at
this
point,
we're
going
to
go
to
members
of
the
public
and
so
you'll
need
to
have
your
hand
raised
before
the
first
member
of
the
public
finishes
speaking.
Everyone
will
have
up
to
three
minutes.
We
have
jennifer
griffin
and
lisa
warren
with
hands
raised
at
this
point
and
as
well
as
sadia
potter,
jonathan
melahan
and
muhammad
islam.
At
this
point,
welcome
jennifer.
J
J
I
I
will
just
start
out
saying
that
about
ten
years
ago
the
city
got
rid
of
using
story.
Poles.
I
will
attest
that
using
story
polls
are
a
very,
very
good
way
of
of
addressing
all
of
neighbors
issues
with
we
had
a
very
successful
two-story
go
in
with
a
balcony
a
number
of
years
ago,
and
we
all
were
involved.
We,
the
story
polls,
settled
many
issues.
J
The
other
statement
I
would
make
is
I
my
main
concern
with
this,
and
it's
it's
just
because
of
state
law
is
the
forefoot
setback
with
the
adus
we're
going
into
uncharted
territory?
Here,
it's
no
one's
fault.
It's
just
the
governor.
I
guess
signed
the
adu
law
of.
I
think
it
was
two
years
ago
and
I
understand
that,
but
the
four
foot
setback
has
never
been
fully
explained
there.
I
understand
the
fire
marshals
have
had
problems
with
this,
but
it
is
state
law,
but
we
are
going
into
an
area
that
is
new
frontier.
J
I
have
a
great
deal
of
concern
about
having
a
structure
four
feet
from
the
property
line,
for
it
looks
like
this.
Adu
is
at
least
60
feet
long.
So
that
means
that
the
neighbor
on
the
left
side,
if
I'm
correct,
has
a
structure,
that's
four
feet
rather
than
five
feet.
I
I
would
be
very
concerned
about
that
now.
This
is
an
issue
for
this
neighborhood.
Obviously,
because
there
are
other,
the
house
is
very
nice
looking,
but
you
still
have
a
new
type
of
construction.
J
I
would
be
concerned
about
the
forefoot
setback,
and
this
is
something
we
we
have
to
discuss,
because
this
could
potentially
affect
everyone
is,
and
I'm
also
wondering
too,
if,
if
a
homeowner,
let's
say
this
house
sold
and
a
homeowner
came
in
and
decided
that
he
wanted
to
put
the
the
footage
back
into
the
house.
He
has
a
big
family.
E
J
A
A
X
Okay,
thank
you.
So
my
name
is
sadia
podar,
I'm
a
cupertino
resident
for
last
25
years
and
as
well
as
a
homeowner,
and
I
know
jamun
and
tariq
for
last
16
years,
and
they
are
willing
to
build
this
dream
house
and
planning
for
a
long
time
and
they
are
like
willing
to
adjust
all
the
city's
rules
and
privacy,
but
still
they
are
going
through
all
these
mental
stress
and
decision
making
process.
X
If
city
does
not
allow
to
build
a
new
house
of
a
resident
who
follow
all
the
rules
and
regulations,
then
it's
going
to
ruin
the
cupertino
city's
reputation.
There
will
be
no
new.
The
new
buyers
will
not
willing
to
buy
home
in
cupertino
because
they
will
not
be
able
to
build
house
as
they
want
to
and
which
will
actually
is
not
good
for
our
city.
So
as
a
kupatana
resident.
I
I
You
know,
and
I
don't
know
all
the
city
codes.
I
don't
know
a
lot
about
building
codes,
but
I
can
say
I'm
looking
from
it
for
at
it
from
a
pragmatic
point
of
view
and
listen,
you
know
you
buy
a
house,
you
sort
of
you
sort
of
have
to
understand
like
the
the
opportunity
cost
right
and
living
behind,
like
you
know,
and
having
a
two-story
home.
A
Y
Y
Sometimes,
actually
we
are
very
outdated
and
very
old
houses
are
there
and
I
always
support
the
new
building,
and
but
this
couple
actually
went
through
such
a
horrible
time
for
last
few
months
on
this
project,
and
it
was
very
frustrating,
I
would
say
I
can
see
from
their
communication,
and
I
can
see
that
they
are
continuously
trying
to
bend
themselves
to
accommodate
any
request
coming
towards
them.
They
want
it
to
be
approved,
they
want
to
go
for
the
next
phase.
There
are
other
phases
they
have
to
cross.
Y
So
overall,
I
really
appreciate
those
couple
like
what
they're
trying
to
accommodate,
although
they
fulfill
their
requirement
from
the
beginning,
and
they
are
trying
to
open
themselves
for
new
suggestion.
Also
they
are
still
entertaining
we
are.
We
are
requesting
a
lot
of
these
things
and
looks
like
they
are
always
in
the
positive
tone.
Please
allow
us
to
go
for
the
next
stage,
so
I
think
that
overall,
I
strongly
support
their
initiatives.
I
want
them
to
succeed
on
that.
Z
Z
B
A
Right,
thank
you,
rizwan
and
we'll
bring
it
back
to
the
applicant
and
the
appellant.
Let's,
let's
make
it
a
few
minutes
we
did
have.
I
believe
six
speakers
so
provide
up
to
five
minutes
for
the
applicant
first
and
then
the
appellant
since
they're,
bringing
the
appeal
we'll
have
last
word
prior
to
council
deliberation.
V
We
comply
all
this
and
also
we
did
the
privacy
plan
and
we
do
actually,
if
you
you
saw
that
picture,
we
do
have
that
privacy
long
tree
over
there
and
we're
gonna,
replace
whatever
that's
and
also
we
say
if
this
is
the
like:
a
concern,
big
concern
and
reduce
the
our
balcony
size.
If
that's
gonna
there
there
that's,
you
guys,
require
the
request.
We
can
do
that.
One
too.
A
U
U
U
T
T
We
also
been
through
this
kind
of
mental
stretch-
stress
just
like
you,
because
we
actually
live
peacefully
here
and
suddenly
not
my
neighbor
want
to
build
a
new
house,
and
one
thing
I
want
to
bring
up
is
that
again
the
privacy.
This
picture
is
kind
of
misleading.
That,
first,
is
that
you
probably
can
see
that
this
picture
is
taken
from
the
ground
floor.
T
But
if
you
look,
if
you
put
the
angles,
maybe
a
little
bit
on
the
left
hand,
side
you'll
see,
there's
a
big
gap,
so
I
still
would
like
to
have
asked
the
homeowner
that
if
we
may
be
building
some
trees
and
maybe
something
that
you
can
do
to
give
us
a
little
bit
better
privacy-
and
maybe
the
best
way
is
that
we
may
remove
the
second
floor
balcony.
I
think
that's
probably
at
least
for
me
right.
I
think
that
would
satisfy
my
concerns.
A
Thank
you
very
much
at
this
point
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
bring
it
back
to
council.
We
will
have
a
deliberation.
I'd
like
to
ask
for
a
motion
for
the
purposes
of
that
deliberation.
Would
anyone
like
to
bring
a
motion,
and
I
remind
council
that
the
default
motion
is
the
staff
recommendation?
S
M
M
A
Okay,
and
so
the
vice
mayor
is
moving
the
staff
recommendation
with
a
modification
with
regard
to
frosted
glass
on
on
the
bottom
of
a
certain
certain
area.
The
staff
feel
that
that
is
sufficient
direction,
or
do
we
need
to
make
any
clarification
to
that
erica?
You
have
your
microphone
on
now.
Did
you
want.
Q
M
Q
So
if,
if
you
are,
if
you
feel
that
just
adding
the
frosted
glass
for
the
rear
second
story
windows
would
be
sufficient,
then
I
can
indicate
that
okay
and
then
my
second
clarification
is
you
mentioned
frosted
up
to
a
certain
point?
Would
it
be
sufficient
to
have
the
windows
frosted
up
to
five
feet
from
finished?
Fourth,.
X
A
A
D
Is
raised,
I
would
like
to
motion
as
the
staff
recommend
and
then
we
can
talk
about
it
with
more
details.
It's
just
window
covering
is
probably
probably
better
than
frosted
windows
and
it
it.
How
can
you
guarantee
a
frost
window
now
when
it's
break?
What
is,
are
they
gonna
put
frosted
windows?
I
I
would
like
to
emotion
the
original
motion.
Then
we
can
talk
about
it.
If
we
don't
make
any
patients
all
right.
A
N
Okay,
thank
you.
I
had
a
quick
question.
I'm
hearing
this
five
foot,
I'm
hearing
the
word
gradient,
but
it
it
tends
to
call
to
mind
or
or
make
me
think
that
oh
there's,
a
five
foot
retaining
wall
in
the
backyard
between
the
neighbors.
I
know
in
my
own
backyard.
I
have
a
a
couple
of
feet
like
two
foot
retaining
wall.
So
is
there
anything
like
that?
I
did
not
see
an
elevation
change
that
drastic
or
abrupt.
N
When
I
visited
the
neighborhood
and
I
have
been
essentially
walking
around
the
neighborhood
on
on
google
maps
and
I'm
and
I'm
not
seeing
that
so
it
it
is
possible
that
there
is
a
certain
number
of
feet
from
primrose
to
poppy
at
the
curb
for
each,
but
without
seeing
some
spot
elevations
on
the
surrounding
properties
or
at
topo
map.
I'm
I'm
not
visually.
Seeing
anything
to
to
that
elevation
change.
Just
has
staff
been
out
and
can
confirm
or
or
say
that
that
is
not
true.
A
Q
A
A
A
N
Okay,
so
I
was
hearing
that
there
was
a
five
foot
gradient
differential
and
I'm
wondering
if
there
is
a
retaining
wall
which
would
kind
of
indicate
that
change,
because
I
would
think
that
there
might
be,
and
then
I
just
want
to
point
out.
Maybe
if
this
type
of
an
issue
shows
up
in
the
future,
we
want
to
get
the
finished
floors
of
of
the
of
the
structures
around
if
possible.
But
is
there?
Is
there
anything
like
a
five
foot
retaining
wall
between
the
the
locks.
N
So
there
there
was
a
comment
in
in
the
the
written
information
that
we
had
about
having
views
being
blocked
of
of
the
the
surrounding
area,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
you're
asking
for
privacy,
screening
you're
also
going
to
be
blocking
the
the
view,
and
when
I
see
that
the
form
of
the
building
of
the
form
of
your
home
the
way
it
was
reduced
in
size.
On
the
second
floor,
it
was,
it
was
very
accommodating
to
allow
a
view
space
to
be
open.
N
But
if
you
do
go
ahead
and
have
some
agreement
with
it
with
the
neighbors
with
it
with
the
two-story
home
that
you
provide
this
privacy
screening,
it
may
have
the
the
unintended
consequence
of
blocking
the
views
around
yours.
So
I
just
hope
that,
when,
when
things
are
worked
out
with
that
that
that's
kept
in
mind
so
that
you
don't
unintent
unintentionally
create
a
problem
for
for
either
of
you.
V
V
More
so
this
is
more
than
20
around
20
feet
high.
It
is,
it
is
not
nothing
they
can
see.
We
can
see
it's
a
the
picture
already
showing
and
the
house
you
if
your
city
member
like
to
see
it,
I
can
take
you
guys
there
and
you
can
see
it.
You
cannot
see
other
side
anyway,
they
cannot
see.
We
cannot
see
what
we
have
it
currently
all
right.
Thank.
D
Thank
you,
mayor
paul,
so
I
would
like
to
make
two
comments.
The
first
is,
I
get
it.
The
neighbor
says
privacy
issues,
they
have
rights,
but
the
homeowners
also
have
rights.
They've
done
everything
according
to
our
ordinances,
our
codes,
and
they
even
did
a
little
bit
less
than
what's
not
the
maximum
of
everything-
and
this
case
has
gone
to
the
planning,
commissioner
and
the
planning
commission
is
being
denied.
Now
it's
coming
to
the
city
council,
I
really
don't
think
our
city
council,
I'm
going
to
ask
chris.
D
Actually
our
attorney
have
the
right
to
say
you're,
conforming
to
all
the
codes,
but
we're
asking
to
do
and
do
this
unless
you
else
you
won't
get
a
permit.
I
would
like
to
know
if
the
property
owner
has
rights.
The
second
is
there
really
really
is
no
evidence
that
this
homeowner
would
abuse
their
rights
and
the
third.
Actually,
I
want
to
say
my
house
actually
is
about
five
feet.
I
don't
know
the
exact
feed
a
degree
lower
I'm
on
the
lower
side.
D
What
I
did
is
I
plant
privacy
trees
on
my
backyard
okay,
so
I
spent
31
years
now.
It's
way
over
the
neighbors,
they
couldn't
even
see
me,
so
I
did
it
to
protect
myself
because
I
care,
and
so
I
really
think
it
goes
both
ways.
The
new
owner
did
this
this
this
owner,
that's
very
accommodating
they'll,
say
whatever
tree.
You
want
me
to
plant
I'll
plant
it,
but
the
neighbors,
just
like
me,
who's
lower,
could
also
do
something
themselves
too.
D
If
they
feel
one
side
of
privacy,
trade
is
not
enough,
they
could
do
something
on
their
side.
If
you
come
to
my
house,
that's
exactly
what
I
did
after
31
years.
It's
really
very
private
right
now.
So
that's
my
comment
and
I
would
like
to
attorney
chris
chris.
Could
you
comment?
Do
we
have
the
right
to
ask
the
owners
to
reduce
this,
reduce
that,
even
though
they're
within
our
codes.
S
M
First,
so
and
first,
I
think
the
reason
this
is
this
agenda
of
the
city
council
is
because
we
have
a
right
to
deny,
even
though
that
won't
be
that's
unlikely
something
we
would
do.
However,
if
we
don't
have
that
right
to
deny
it
won't
be
on
our
agenda
and
that's
what
the
opportunity
we
have
provided
to
all
residents
to
appeal
to
the
planning,
commission
and
appeal
to
the
city
council.
M
It
seems
to
be
too
much
appeal,
but
then
my
heart
goes
out
to
both
sides.
I
think
both
sides,
I
think
the
neighbors,
if
they
didn't
feel
strongly
about
their
privacy
concern,
they
wouldn't
appeal
twice,
but
then
my
heart
goes
out
to
the
poverty
owner
too.
They
have
really
accommodated
a
lot
along
the
way.
The
change
in
everything
the
state
city
asked
for
and
but
then
it's
our
job.
Now
it's
good
that
when
it's
discretionary
approval,
we
have
this
opportunity
to
work
with
each
other.
M
Maybe
we
we
won't
deny,
of
course,
but
then
we
could
negotiate
and
have
a
better
project
that
both
sides
give
a
little
and
are
happier
together.
So
I
think
that's
what
why
we
are
considering
it
here
and
but
I
want
to
clarify
something
with
chris
with
sb9
this
project.
If
it
come
to
the
console
after
january,
1st,
2021
and
2022,
we
actually
won't,
it
will
actually
be
approved
on
ministry.
S
That
not
necessarily
because
the
price-
that's
because
of
the
size
of
the
units
it
does
doesn't
necessarily
qualify,
would
not
necessarily
qualify
for
approval
under
sb9.
Although
you
know
it's
it's
possible
that
we
could
adopt
standards
that
allow
it.
But
that's
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
you
know
working
on
developing
objective
standards
for
esp9
projects.
S
M
But
I
see
okay,
so
I
think
at
least
from
here.
We
learned
that
many
neighbors
are
concerned
about
backyard
balcony,
because
this
is
not
the
first
project
there
were
earlier
ones.
So
maybe
who
will,
at
the
justice
standard
any
balcony
any
any
project
with
that
backyard?
Balcony
should
be
subject
to
discretionary
approval
because
of
these
clusters.
M
M
M
E
W
M
M
M
L
I
don't
think
you
can
really
reduce
the
depth
by
much
if
it's
six
feet
from
the
house
to
the
railing,
you
know
a
two,
a
four
four
by
eight
sheet
of
plywood
and
that's
just
an
extra
two
feet,
so
that
allows
two
people
to
walk
by
each
other
when
they're
on
that
deck.
But
I
don't
really
think
you
could
reduce
the
depth,
the
width
maybe
and
the
apple.
The
homeowner
has
actually
suggested
that
he'd
be
willing
to
reduce
the
width
of
it,
but
not
the
depth.
L
You
know
I
I'm
open
to
that,
but
I
I'm
really
driven
by
the
neighbors
being
the
ones
that
requested.
I
think
john
john
or
jitish
had
said
no
deck,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
think
we
can
go
that
far
and
so
I'm
not
hearing
him
talk
about
the
smaller
with.
Why
and
I'll
leave
my
comment
at
that
that
yeah
thank
you.
A
I
thank
you,
council,
member
willie,
I'm
just
going
to
make
some
very
brief
comments
with
the
remaining
time.
That's
here
I
I
think
that
I
think
that
it's
clear
to
me
at
least,
that
the
the
the
appeal
you
know
just
from
the
perspective
of
compliance
should
be
denied.
I'm
I'm
happy
to
hear
willingness
from
the
applicant
to
continue
to
work
with
the
neighbors
to
help
ensure
some
privacy
concerns
are
addressed
to
the
extent
that
they
can.
A
But
you
know
it's
it's
a
situation
right
here
where
I
think
we
have
some
leeway
to
encourage
that
kind
of
action
to
take
place.
I'm
not
going
to
attempt
to
require
it,
but
in
terms
of
any
square
footage,
I'm
very
hesitant
to
reduce
down
square
footage.
That's
reflected
here,
especially
given
the
fact
that
you
know
we
have
seen
applications
that
have
gone
up
to
the
literal
square
foot
of
allowance,
and
this
is
not
what's
happening
here
at
this
point,
so
I
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion
on
the
table.
A
A
D
Okay,
I
would
accept
it
but
add
upon
mutual
mutual
agreement.
I
would
not
like
I
think
mayor
says
it.
I
I
don't
want
to
request
the
the
owners
to
do
it,
but
come
usual
agreement.
They
want
to
do
it.
That
is
perfectly
fine.
I
think
collaboration
between
the
neighbors
is
really
important.
I
just
don't
want
to
mandate
anything
I
this
appeal
has
been
denied
by
the
planning
commission.
I
think
they're
pretty
reasonable.
D
E
M
M
V
W
A
N
I
would
like
some
clarification
from
staff,
because
this
was
in
the
in
this
plan.
We
have
the
loris
noble,
saratoga
privacy,
planting
minimum
15
gallon
and
six
foot
planted
height.
That
means
it
needs
to
be
six
feet
at
the
start,
is
my
understanding
and
that
the
heights,
when
I
asked
from
erica
earlier
on
it
seems
that
it
would
something
like
15
to
40
feet
ultimate
height
and
that
the
the
neighbors
could
agree
upon
some
other
tree
or
or
hedging
of
some
material
other
than
that
of
their
own
accord.
N
N
M
B
A
I
I'm
glad
to
see
cooperation
and
a
backing
down
of
well.
It
seems
like
the
seconder
is
not
accepting
the
friendly
amendment
as
re-articulated
by
the
motioner.
So
so,
let's
go
ahead
and
close
this
out.
I
I
do
see
council
my
way.
You've
lowered
your
hand
vice
mayor
ciao,
I'm
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
close
this
out,
I
mean
it
seems
like
essentially,
all
suggestions
for
a
mandate
have
been
kind
of
gently,
reformatted
and
essentially
I'd.
M
A
N
So
much
so
I,
while
I
appreciate
that
the
applicant
is,
is
willing
to
accommodate
this
and
move
things
along
that
way.
We
don't
actually
know
if
that's
something
that
the
neighbors
are
actually
wanting.
This
change
from
from
from
shrubs
to
trees
and
to
me
I
would
still
let
let
them
negotiate
on
their
own,
with
staff's
support
for
for
discussion
and
and
suggestions
for
what
they
can
do
and
pros
and
cons
and
and
to
me,
I
would
leave
it
in
staff's
hands
to
to
help
support
that.
L
A
A
Q
Or
I,
if
possible,
I
would
just
like
to
get
clarification
on
on
one
point,
which
is
the
location
of
the
trees.
As
shown
on
the
site
plan.
There
is
a
five
foot,
wire
clearance,
easement
or
yes,
there's
a
five
foot
wire
clearance
easement
towards
the
rear.
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
city
council
had
any.
M
D
Yes,
I
I
I
I
have
to
say
I
agree
with
council
member
moore.
We
are
getting
into
details
and
the
applicants
are
very,
very
collaborating,
and
I
really
think
it
would
be
nice
to
leave
it
to
the
staff
to
work
with
the
applicants
and
work
with
the
neighbors
and
find
satisfactory
solutions,
and
I
have
confidence,
that's
going
to
happen
because
the
45
degree
trees
and
all
that
this
this
project
needs
to
move
on.
I
mean
if
they
have
to
come
back
to
council.
Again
time
is
money.
D
I
just
don't
feel
that
we
are
in
a
position
to
really
mandate
a
lot
of
things
where
you
know
like
erica
says
what,
if
the
eastman
this,
and
that
I
I
tend
to
want
to
agree
with
councilman.
We
are
vice
mayor.
I
understand
we
want
to
be
accommodating,
but
I
think
this
applicant
is
very
accommodating,
so
I
just
feel
that
we
are
mandating
two
details.
A
A
You
know
in
my
experience,
if,
if
you
don't
put
this
in,
it
basically
becomes
very
poorest,
and
so
I
I
do
you
know
appreciate
everyone's.
You
know
efforts
to
to
to
bring
this
to
a
resolution
at
this
point.
So
at
this
time
I
would
like
to
ask
the
city
clerk
to
conduct
a
roll
call
vote
on
the
substitute
motion.
A
A
A
And
table
19.56.04a
and
the
addition
of
section
19.56.080
the
density
bonus
ordinance
to
allow
density
bonuses
and
other
incentives,
as
provided
by
state
law
and
a
new
section
19.56.080,
providing
that
the
density
bonus
ordinance
will
be
interpreted
consistent
with
state
density,
bonus
law,
and
this
is
application.
Number
mca-2021-003.
A
P
P
Just
as
background
there
was
a
work
program
item
related
to
affordable
housing
strategies
which
included
updates
to
the
city's
density,
bonus
ordinance
in
general.
Even
two,
three
four
five
increase.
The
maximum
density
bonus
that
non
100,
affordable
projects
would
get
from
35
to
50,
in
exchange
for
a
very
small
four
to
five
percent
increase
in
affordability.
E
P
P
As
far
as
our
analysis
goes,
the
city
has
consistently
approved
a
deadly
bonus
projects,
including
falco,
marina,
veranda
and
westport
projects.
The
city
offers
a
host
of
incentives
to
incentivize,
affordable
housing
within
other
parts
of
the
municipal
code.
We
have
flexible
development,
zoning
standards,
we
have
a
bmr
housing
program
which
is
implemented
through
our
municipal
code
and
the
other
manuals
that
the
city
has
adopted.
P
In
addition
to
that,
there's
a
new
section
that
is
proposed
to
make
sure
that
there
are
no
conflicts
between
rst
between
the
city's
adopted
municipal
code
and
state
density,
bonus
law,
and
this
section
essentially
states
that,
with
regard
to
sql
review
this,
these
are
exempt
under
sql
guidelines
for
a
variety
in
a
variety
of
ways.
There
is
no.
You
know
this
proposed
amendments
themselves.
Will
not
result
in
any
direct
or
reasonable
foreseeable
indirect
physical
change
in
the
environment
and
therefore
they
don't
constitute
a
project
than
they
seek
law.
P
The
planning
commission
met
on
august
10th
and
on
september
14
2021,
and
they
voted
at
their
september.
14
2021
meeting
on
a
3-2
vote
with
commissioner
maripotle
and
commissioner
wong
voting
no
to
recommend
that
the
council
adopt
these
amendments.
Why
would
they
be
t-345
and
with
that,
the
recommended
action
is
that
the
council
tonight
adopt
the
interviews
and
protect
the
first
reading
of
the
ordinance
to
adopt
the
imposed
amendments,
and
with
that
I
conclude
my
presentation,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
S
So
the
the
the
biggest
practical
difference
is
that
is
that
the
state
density
of
owners
law
does
direct
local
jurisdictions
to
adopt
and
implementing
density
bonus
ordinance.
So
the
best
practice
for
for
doing
that
is
obviously
to
to
amend
the
ordinance
to
conform
with
state
density,
bonus
law,
so
so
that
that
that's,
why?
That
is
that?
That's
that's.
The
reason
why
we
are
are
recommending
an
amendment
to
the
existing
ordinance,
whether
that
that
simply
rescinding
the
local.
S
S
The
the
the
practical
effect
of
that
is
typically
that
they
have
to
comply
with
the
state
law
instead
of
their
local
ordinance,
but
we
do
recommend
this
as
the
best
approach,
because
the
state
density
bonus
law
does
direct
local
jurisdictions
to
adopt
an
ordinance.
Cupertino
already
does
have
an
ordinance
and-
and
and
these
amendments
will.
AB
M
So,
as
some
other
council
members
mentioned
today,
and
also
earlier
that,
we
really
need
is
vmware
housing
for
families
and
is
it
at
all
possible
in
this
kind
of
density.
Bonus
ordinance
address
that
issue
that
we,
we
are
getting
really
imbalanced,
vmware
housing
that
it
tends
to
be
for
singles
still
deal
or
whatever,
rather
than
two
or
three
bedroom.
Is
it
possible
to
incentivize
more
units
that
we
need
through
this
kind
of
audience.
S
So
I
I
think
there
are
other
policies
and
ordinances
the
city
could
adopt
and
other
other
initiatives
the
city
could
pursue
to
increase
the
production
of
affordable
housing.
I
I
think
tying
it
to
to
to
the
density
bonus
is,
is
difficult
because
the
percentages
of
density
bonus
that
are
that
are
awarded
for
any
given
level
of
affordability
are
set
by
state
law.
So
if
this,
if,
if
the
city
wanted
to
acquire
more
affordability
or
a
different
mix
of
affordable
units
across
the
board,
there
are
lawful
pathways
to
do
that.
M
So
earlier
someone
also
mentioned
about
intellectually
and
developmentally
disabled
individuals
who
need
a
special
kind
of
housing,
so
that
also
won't
be
addressed
by
this
density.
Bonus,
ordinance
right,
and
so,
if
we
want
to
help
support
more
of
that
kind
of
housing,
that
will
be
a
different
policy
that
we
can
might
adopt
or
extract
no
income
or
like
extremely
low
income
level.
That's
a
level
we
have
not
been
able
to
address.
S
Right
there
there
are
different
policies
and
perhaps
different
funding
sources
that
would
help
address
that,
and
that's
that's.
That
would
really
be
a
question
for
our
housing
staff
about
whether
there's
specific
you
know
grants
or
other
funding
sources,
other
programs
that
that
would
support
the
city's.
You
know
desire
to
to
add
housing
for
individuals
with
disabilities.
A
Okay,
we'll
go
on
to
the
public
at
this
point.
If
we
don't
have
further
questions
from
council
and
we
have
three
hands
raised
from
the
public,
those
are
jennifer
griffin,
gene
bedord
and
kalisha
webster
and
other
members
of
the
public.
If
you'd
like
to
speak,
please
have
your
hand
raised
before
the
end
of
the
first
comment:
brian
o'neill
as
well.
At
this
point,
jennifer
griffin,
welcome
you'll,
have
three
minutes.
J
You
know
other
issues
we
all
have
with
pandemic,
but
I
give
our
governor
a
vote
of
no
confidence
for
introducing
bedlam
into
our
state
rule
these.
Anyone
that
voted
these
housing
bills
in
ought
to
not
be
governor.
He
they
are
conflicting,
they're
poorly
written.
They
are
obviously
set
to
allow
the
neighborhoods
to
be
given
away
to
the
highest
bidder.
Four
foot
setbacks:
okay,
increased
fifty
percent
density.
Who
is
writing
this
stuff?
Let's
be
honest,
this
is
a
dead
giveaway
to
developers
and
the
governor
needs
to
be
held
accountable
for
it.
J
I
I
am
very,
very
concerned
that
cupertino
is
being
reamed
by
such
inflammatory
bills
as
ab2
345,
which
was
one
of
the
last
bills
to
pass
at
the
last
moment
of
the
2020
legislative
session
I
mean
at
midnight.
It
is
a
bad
bill.
It
is
poorly
written,
it
is,
it
is
to
take
advantage
and
cover
up
transgressions.
J
It
is
to
deceive
the
public
and
this
my
point
where
the
democratic,
if
democratic
party
is
condoning
this
behavior,
they
have
really
got
off
the
rails.
I
don't
know
about
the
republican
party,
I
don't
know
what
their
feelings
are
about
these
bills,
but
I
have
grave
concerns
about
where
whoever
is
directing
the
democratic
party
in
this
state
needs
to
seriously
consider
what
the
definition
of
democracy
is.
J
Have
we
gone
into
communist
land
far
left
socialism,
but
I,
as
a
member
of
the
public,
do
not
appreciate
having
my
democracy
in
my
state
multi-generation
being
taken
advantage
of
and
given
away
to
the
highest
bidder.
Our
governor
is
going
to
have
to
be
held
accountable,
and
I
am
very
concerned
that
he
is
setting
us
up
for
some
sort
of
totalitarian
rule,
and
that
is
not
the
way
california
should
be
governed.
Thank
you.
J
A
C
AB
AB
AB
AB
H
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
A
A
R
Thank
you.
I
just
have
it's
come
to
me
that
I
have
a
question
that
I
know
can't
be
answered
tonight,
but
something
to
think
about
when
you're
making
any
adjustments
to
comply
quote
unquote
with
existing
random
laws
that
have
been
passed
recently
when
an
initiative,
a
statewide
initiative,
could
potentially
pass
that
negates
all
of
those
things.
R
A
AC
I'm
so
sorry,
all
right
so
good
evening,
once
again,
commissioners,
my
name
is
felicia
webster
and
I'm
a
housing
advocate
with
housing
choices,
a
non-profit
which
provides
housing,
navigation
and
housing
retention,
services
funded
by
san
andreas,
regional
center
to
people
with
intellectual
and
developmental
disabilities
in
cupertino
and
throughout
santa
clara
county
under
state
and
federal
law.
People
with
developmental
disabilities
are
entitled
to
receive
community-based
services
that
allow
them
to
live
in
the
least
restrictive
setting.
AC
This
has
led
to
the
closure
of
many
licensed
care
facilities
and
group
homes
of
the
past
20
years
in
favor
of
inclusive
community
housing,
where
regional
centers
are
able
to
provide
funding
for
services
to
assist
people
with
developmental
disabilities
wanting
to
live
independently,
they
are
prohibited
from
paying
an
individual's
rent.
Accordingly,
local
jurisdictions
are
required
to
assess
and
plan
for
the
housing
needs
of
people
with
developmental
disabilities
as
part
of
their
housing
element.
AC
One
way
in
which
cupertino
can
incentivize
developers
to
include
these
set-aside
units
for
people
with
developmental
disabilities
is
to
include
a
reduction
in
the
inclusionary
requirement
if
the
units
are
designated
for
people
with
developmental
disabilities,
similar
to
the
county
of
san
mateo's,
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
and
to
vice
mayor
child's
question.
The
county
assembly
has
similar
reduced
inclusionary
requirements
for
large
family
unions.
The
city
can
also
include
higher
density
bonuses
above
state
density
above
state
density.
AC
B
A
A
A
A
N
Yes,
I
just
I
want
to
point
out
that
I
do
really
appreciate
in
this.
In
the
staff
analysis
item
c
incentives
for
affordable
housing.
I
I
really
appreciate
that
that
was
summarized
and
included,
and
I
do
want
to
just
mention
what
we
already
know
that
that
westport
provided
the
financial
data
to
not
disperse
their
bmr
units.
N
It
was
their
senior
bmr
units,
they
left
53
density,
bonus
units
on
the
table
and
and
did
not
even
elect
to
use
them,
and
they
provided
no
bmr
housing
for
families.
Despite
having
the
three-bedroom,
townhouses
and
row
houses,
the
dispersal
did
not
get
into
those
units
and
then
valco
also
used
density
bonus.
N
The
balco
sb
35
project
used
on
city
bonus
and
both
worsened
the
housing
shortage
by
more
units
than
they
actually
provided
and
again
they
also
failed
to
provide
housing
for
families
with
children
and
additionally,
they
placed
the
bmr
units
underneath
the
30-acre
green
roof
on
a
site
that
needs
hazardous
waste
mitigation.
Apparently,
so
I
think
in
the
future.
N
A
A
I
feel
that
we
need
to
be
treated
fairly
and
not
targeted
by
any
particular
interest
or
group,
and
I
think
that
cupertino
has
demonstrated
time
and
again
that
we
are
very
much
invested
in
making
sure
that
we
deliver
affordable
housing
solutions
to
the
public
and
when
you
look
at
that
westport
project
at
the
oaks
shopping
center
site,
as
it
exists
right
now.
Originally
that
had
much
more
office
space.
I
A
I
do
want
to.
You
know,
make
note
of
the
fact
that
we
based
our
ability
or
our
attempt
to
deliver
more
affordable
housing
units
in
no
small
part
upon
our
experiences
with
the
oak
shopping
center
and
the
westport
project.
And
so
I
find
it
very
unfortunate
that
we're
in
a
situation
right
now,
following
a
staff
recommendation
in
the
first
place,
where
we
have
to
spend
all
of
this
time
in
what
I
perceive
as
a
bit
of
a
chest.
A
Feeding
exercise
frankly
where,
where
where
people
are,
are
pointing
their
finger
at
us
and
saying
well,
you're,
just
not
conforming
and
therefore
we're
going
to
bully
you
around
until
you
recraft
the
language
so
that
it
conforms
to
this
language.
But
the
fact
of
the
matter
is,
we
were
attempting
and
we
were
very
proud
to
be
able
to
deliver
these
additional,
affordable
housing
units
to
the
public,
and
you
know
I
think,
these
back
channels.
A
I
think
these
you
know
quiet
whisperings
to
you,
know
various
entities
to
essentially
bully
us,
for
whatever
reason
I
think,
they're
quite
counterproductive,
and
so
you
know
I'm
happy
to
conform
this
at
this
point,
but
I'm
also
equally
convinced,
just
as
I
was
very
proud
that
we
were
bringing
this
forward
in
the
first
place.
I'm
equally
convinced
that
the
efforts
of
these
so-called
affordable
housing
advocates
have
actually
resulted
in
a
diminishment
of
what
will
ultimately
occur
in
cupertino
in
terms
of
the
overall
numbers
of
affordable
housing.
A
E
B
L
L
L
L
It's
just
wrong.
Democracy
is
where
it
needs
to
start,
and
democracy
is
where
it
needs
to
end,
and
we
need
to
do
our
best
for
the
for
the
constituents
that
we're
responsible
for
so
with.
That
being
said,
I
believe
we're
doing
exactly
what's
intended
with
democracy.
So
thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you.
Councilmember.
M
M
M
The
contention
has
been
too
much
office,
but
the
housing
advocates
call
this
project
a
housing
project,
that's
deceitful.
I
hope
the
housing
advocates
here
be
could
be
honest
when
you
represent
yourself
when
you
represent
cupertino
recognize
a
city
when
it's
doing
a
good
job.
Approving
westport
project,
approving
hampton
approving,
very,
very
appealing
marina
without
with
little
opposition
from
the
community
cupertino
community
is
not
not
in
thai
housing.
M
It's
anti-mega
office,
which
is
really
what
has
given
us
this
housing
crisis,
because
san
francisco
and
san
mateo
county
built
seven
times
more
office
than
they
used
to,
but
cupertino
council
has
been
trying
to
to
do
our
part
to
not
worsen
the
situation.
Let's
recognize
that
and
like
council
members
really
said,
we
are
elected
by
cupertino
residents.
M
Naturally,
we
have
to
fight
to
represent
our
residents.
The
legislators
are
represented
by
assembly
district,
they
represent
their
interests.
You
have
special
interests
groups,
you
represent
your
special
interest,
but
my
duty
have
to
be
for
every
cupertino
residence
and
it
might
be
different.
I
might
have
to
view
things
differently
from
yours.
That
doesn't
mean
us
are
our
bad
guy.
We
are
just
doing
our
job
and
cupertino
residents.
M
Although
the
housing
price
is
high
or
cupertino
happened
to
be
the
area
where
families
stretch
their
budget
in
order
to
afford
an
address
where
they
they
they,
they
think
their
kids
can
go
to
a
better
school,
but
then
they
cannot
afford
palo
alto.
They
cannot
afford
menlo
park,
they
barely
can
afford.
Cupertino
and
cupertino
has
failed
to
pass
a
measly
250
or
500
puzzle
tax.
M
We
are
working
on
projects,
that's
trying
to
serve
that
community,
because,
with
a
lot
of
focus
on
homeless,
that
particular
population
has
made
the
north
and
they
have
the
homeless
population
has
been
competing
for
resource
resource
with
them
and
then
and
we
thankfully,
a
lot
of
advocates
have
been
speaking
in
the
council
meeting.
So
we
do
want
to
address
that
and
then
there
are
extremely
low
income
people,
that's
not
addressed
by
the
density
bonus
project,
and
then
we
are
facing
developers.
Applicants
who
keep
reducing
our
ct,
adopted
density,
bonus
requirements.
M
So
all
the
housing
advocates,
please
please
could
you
advocate
to
the
developers,
don't
cut
down
our
housing?
Our
me,
our
very
minimum
bmr
housing
requirements
so
that
we
can
get
bmr
housing
for
families
so
that
we
can
get
housing
via
housing.
That's
disbursed
with
regular
units,
rather
than
concentrate
in
one
place,
give
us
what
our
companies
require
and
don't
allow
that
conception
that
those
to
be
taken
away
by
concession.
Thank
you.
A
C
B
A
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
city
clerk.
We
are
on
to
item
number
11
and
item
number
11
is
to
consider
conducting
a
first
reading
of
an
ordinance
related
to
municipal
code,
amendments
to
mandate,
organic
waste
disposal
reduction
and
edible
food
recovery.
This
is
required
by
state
senate
bill,
1383,
that's
1383
and
it's
implementing
regulations.
A
AD
AD
Senate
bill
1383
is
california's
short-lived
climate
pollutant
reduction
strategy.
Sp
1383
is
a
sweeping
set
of
requirements
designed
to
reduce
the
amount
of
organic
waste
such
as
food
food,
soil
paper
and
yard
trimmings.
From
ending
up
in
landfills,
the
statewide
goals
are
by
2025
to
reduce
organics
to
landfill
by
75
and
increase
the
amount
of
edible
food
recovered
instead
of
being
thrown
away
by
20
percent
over
2014
levels.
AD
These
goals
were
developed
because
about
half
of
what
californians
throw
away
is
organic
material,
including
edible
food,
and
that
is
also
true
here
in
cupertino
when
organics
end
up
in
the
landfill
environment,
they
generate
methane,
which
is
a
super
pollutant,
a
climate
super
pollutant,
72
times
more
potent
than
carbon
dioxide.
This
contributes
to
climate
change.
Meanwhile,
many
californians
do
not
have
enough
to
eat.
AD
There
are
six
basic
categories
for
compliance
with
1383,
mandatory
organics
collection
services
to
all
residents
and
businesses
established
food
recovery
programs.
Do
education,
outreach
procure
products
made
from
recovered
organic
materials,
make
sure
we
have
enough
organics,
processing
and
food
recovery
capacity
and
monitor
for
compliance
and
conduct
enforcement.
AD
AD
All
the
food
recovery
activities
are
being
coordinated
at
the
county
level,
which
includes
outreach
to
the
large
tier
1
and
tier
2
surplus,
edible
food
generators,
tier
1,
includes
supermarkets
and
large
grocery
stores,
and
they
need
to
have
food
recovery
contracts
and
practices
in
place,
starting
in
2022,
all
tier
one.
Businesses
in
cupertino
have
already
been
contacted
and
provided
education
and
tools
for
compliance.
AD
1383
does
not
require
any
new
services
for
residents
in
cupertino,
but
we
will
need
to
increase
education
for
getting
food
scraps
into
the
green
carts,
and
residential
routes
will
be
included
in
auditing
and
feedback
activities.
Schools
will
also
be
part
of
our
outreach.
Efforts
are
also
fortunate
in
the
timing
of
our
recently
negotiated
10-year
agreement
with
recology
for
waste
collection
and
processing
of
recyclable
and
organic
materials.
AD
AD
1383
does
not
require
the
city
to
have
a
policy
in
place
around
these
procurement
requirements,
but
it
is
recommended
to
help
encourage
markets
to
develop
for
products
derived
from
the
increase
in
these
collected.
Organic
materials.
1383
requires
jurisdictions
themselves
to
procure
amounts
of
compliant
materials.
Using
a
formula
based
on
our
population.
AD
We
are
still
strategizing
the
best
approach
to
comply
with
this
state
mandate.
To
show
the
scale
of
these
requirements
for
cupertino.
To
meet
this
with
compost
alone,
the
required
annual
amount
would
be
about
seven
thousand
cubic
yards,
which
is
about
seven
times
what
we
currently
give
away
at
the
compost
site
and
use
at
some
of
the
city's
parks
in
a
year.
AD
One
idea
is
to
get
some
combination
of
renewable
gas,
electricity
and
the
compost
and
mulch
to
meet
the
requirements,
but
the
gas
and
electricity
are
not
readily
available
yet
and
will
be
pricey.
Many
cities
are
challenged
by
this
requirement
and
the
solution
may
lie
in
a
regional
approach.
Agreements
to
meet
these
requirements
would
appear
before
council
before
consideration.
AD
The
city
will
also
be
required
to
procure
recycled
content
paper
products.
We
have
formed
a
working
group
to
collaborate
with
the
various
departments,
including
consideration
of
special
paper,
needs
costs
and
performance,
as
with
all
aspects
of
1383,
records
must
be
kept
and
reported
on.
Our
plan
is
to
capture
these
various
procurement
requirements
in
an
updated,
environmentally
preferable.
Purchasing
policy.
AD
AD
We
also
spent
time
with
the
sustainability
commission
on
this
topic
and
they
were
supportive,
as
these
regulations
help
with
the
community-wide
and
municipal
greenhouse
gas
reduction
measures.
In
the
climate
action
plan.
Information
about
the
agreement
in
1383
went
out
to
all
customers
via
direct
mail
during
the
negotiation
process
with
recology,
and
we
have
additional
outreach
planned.
AD
We're
going
to
begin
with
working
with
those
businesses
that
do
not
yet
subscribe
to
organic
services
and
see
what
amount
of
service
makes
sense
and
if
any
exemptions
apply.
We
have
also
set
up
a
dedicated
web
page
at
cupertino.org
sb1383
that
lists
the
requirements
for
each
type
of
entity
for
compliance
with
1383.
AD
Our
ordinance
must
be
effective
january.
1St,
2022
and
language
about
enforcement
with
penalties
is
required,
but
not
until
2024..
The
first
two
years
will
be
focused
on
helping
businesses
get
set
up
with
needed
service
or
exemptions.
Providing
auditing
and
feedback
in
partnership
with
recology
staff
check
that
large
generators
of
surplus,
edible
food,
have
recovery
contracts
and
practices
in
place
and
offer
technical
assistance
if
needed.
In
2024
enforcement,
with
penalties
begins
and
tier
two
surplus
food
generators
need
to
meet
the
recovery
requirements.
AD
AD
The
section
of
the
model
ordinance
specific
to
food
recovery
was
carefully
customized
by
a
county
stakeholder
working
group
and
the
various
jurisdictions
are
encouraged
to
adopt
it
as
close
to
proposed
as
possible
to
enable
a
unified
regional
effort
for
food
recovery.
Cupertino
is
taking
that
food
recovery
piece
and
proposing
it
as
a
news
section,
6.24038.
A
D
Yes,
I
have
one
question:
actually
two
are
schools,
part
of
the
businesses,
because
I
know
the
school
cafeteria
generates
food
and
they
might
have
leftovers
that
could
be
comply
with
this.
That's
my
first
question,
my
second
question:
what
is
our
physical
impact
that,
when
we
start
to
enforce
education,
how
much
do
you
haven't
asked
me
for
a
physical
impact
sure.
AD
So,
with
regard
to
schools,
they,
like
I
said
we
will
do
outreach
to
them,
but
they
are
actually
under
the
jurisdiction
of
the
state,
so
cal
recycle
has
said
they
will
enforce
on
schools,
but
that
the
city
should
work
with
the
schools
for
education
and
they
do
have
their
own
separate
waste.
Hauling
agreements
with
for
colleges
so
they're,
not
even
under
our
same
franchise,
but
we
will
try
to
work
with
them,
and
everyone
knows
their
food
recovery
issues
with
schools
and
a
lot
of
opportunity
there
and
then
the
fiscal
impact.
AD
AD
The
those
the
piece
that
wasn't
in
the
agreement
was
this
procurement
piece
right,
where
we're
going
to
need
to
buy
electricity
or
tons
of
compost
or
whatever,
and
that's
the
part
that
we
are
still
working
on
and
all
the
cities
are
still
working
on
it.
So
that's
why
a
regional
partnership
of
some
kind
may
be
the
answer,
some
sort
of
regional
ag
project
we
just
don't
know
we're
and
we're
still
pursuing
renewable
gas.
You
know
through
a
bag
and
electricity
through
scbc.
AD
N
Thank
you.
It's
it's
actually
a
question
for
the
city
attorney
and
I
was
wondering
if,
if
sb
619
would
have
any
impact
on
us
at
all,
it
looks
like
that
went
to
the
governor
for
signature
on
the
17th
of
september,
so
it
it
yet
may
be
signed.
It
looked
like
there
was
a
lot
of
support
for
it.
I'm
thinking
that
it
won't
make
any
difference
to
us,
but
I'd
like
to
hear
about
that.
AD
AD
N
AE
Thank
you.
Councilmember
619,
when
it
was
initially
introduced,
had
great
promise
to
offer
delays
in
the
time
frames
for
local
agencies
to
implement
the
1383
requirements,
but
as
it
was
amended
and
ultimately
passed
by
the
legislature,
it
offers
substantially
less
relief
than
it
had
originally
been
anticipated.
AE
If
a
city
is
not
on
a
substantial
path
towards
compliance
with
the
requirements
of
1383,
then
by
march
of
2022,
a
local
jurisdiction
can
apply
to
cal,
recycle
with
its
plan
for
compliance
here,
as
ursula
described,
given
all
of
the
good
progress
that
cupertino
has
already
made.
I'm
not
anticipating
that.
That's
going
to
be
a
form
of
relief
that
this
city
will
need
to
seek.
D
AD
M
AD
Yeah
the
goals
are
statewide
and
they've.
Just
instead
of
setting
a
goal
and
letting
the
cities
work
on
it,
they've
set
very
prescriptive
things.
We
need
to
do
so.
We
need
to
educate,
we
need
to
make
the
service
available,
we
need
to
go
out
and
flip
lids
and
see
if
people
are
doing
it
and
if
they're
not
doing
it
or
they're
doing
it
wrong.
We
need
to
offer
that
feedback
to
them.
You
know
in
a
gentle
educational
way.
You
know
at
first
for
sure,
but
you.
AD
AD
We,
you
know
we've
gone
around
and
done
that
in
the
past,
just
to
see
if
people
were
already
putting
food
in
their
carts
a
couple
years
ago
and
we
we
went
around,
we
had
a
clipboard
describing
what
we
were
doing
and
and
why
and
if
people
had
questions
and
walked
up
to
us,
we'd
be
happy
to
explain
to
them.
But
you
know
it's
not
like
rooting
around
it's
just
like
a
quick
flip.
Usually
the
nose
knows
you
know.
AD
M
Oh
on
the
one
more
thing,
so
I
see
that
you
there
there
is
a
proposed
ordinance.
So
are
there
different
components,
that's
different
from
other
cities
that
we
have
adopted
or
is?
Are
there
options
right
like
or
are
we
adopting
exactly
the
same
thing
as
every
other
city,
exactly
only
what
the
state
law
required
or
did?
Is
there
any
part
that
we
went
a
little
bit
beyond.
AD
Debra
might
be
better
able
to
speak
this
because
I
know
she's
worked
with
other
cities,
but
there's
nothing.
I
recall
where
we
went,
particularly
above
and
beyond
what
was
required
because,
what's
required
is
already
pretty
bracing,
so
yeah
it.
You
know,
I
can't
think
of
a
really
a
place
where,
above
and
beyond
was
was
there
to
be
considered,
but
I'm
looking
at
deborah's
square.
She
can't
tell.
AE
Yes,
vice
mayor
chao,
we
did
use
the
cal
recycle
model
ordinance
as
the
base
for
cupertino's
proposed
ordinance.
That's
before
you
today.
One
difference,
though,
is
that
we
integrated
it
into
the
existing
cupertino
municipal
code.
So
it
does
it's
formatted
a
bit
differently.
It
flows
a
little
bit
differently,
but
the
substance
is
nearly
identical
to
what
is
provided
in
the
1383
regulations
and
consistent
with
the
cal
recycle
model,
ordinance
that
they're
recommending
all
jurisdictions
adopt
and,
as
ursula
mentioned,
specific
to
the
food
recovery
piece.
E
M
AE
N
N
AF
Good
evening,
mayor
paul
council,
members,
council,
member
moore,
I
don't
have
the
contract
in
front
of
me,
but
I'm
90
positive-
that
residents
can
get
additional
recycling
carts
and
organic
cards
at
no
additional
cost.
I
think
up
to
one
or
two
carts
I
will
double
check
and
follow
up
with
ursula
on
that.
A
Okay,
thanks
very
much.
Okay,
I've
got
hands
raised
from
vice
mayor
ciao
as
well
as
council
member
willie.
Do
you
you
vice
mayor?
Ciao
also
have
a
follow-up
question,
or
was
that
just
okay,
so
your
hands
down
now
and
your
mics
off
so
councilmember
willie?
Did
you
have
questions
of
the
presenter
or
anyone
else
that
can
help
clarify.
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you,
councilmember
willie!
Let
me
go
to
members
of
the
public
at
this
time.
If
there
are
any
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak
on
this
item
number
11.
Please
raise
your
hand
at
this
time.
I
don't
see
anybody's
hand
raised,
and
so
let
me
give
an
additional
moment
in
case
people
need
to
reach
for
their
devices
and
the
correct
button
and
whatnot.
A
C
This
is
the
first
reading
of
ordinance,
number
21-2231
and
ordinance
of
the
ski
council
of
the
city
of
cupertino
amending
city
code
to
repeal
section
6.24.037,
adopt
a
new
section.
Six
point:
two
four
point:
zero
three:
seven
adopt
the
new
section.
Six
point:
two:
four
point:
zero:
three:
eight,
an
amendment
section,
six
point:
two:
four
point:
zero:
one:
zero!
Six
point:
two
four
point:
zero:
two:
zero.
Six
point:
two
four
point:
zero:
six:
zero!
D
A
Okay,
great,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
we've
conducted
the
first
reading
of
vice
versa.
Your
hand
is
not
up
anymore,
and
so
I
will
you
know
thank
our
staff
for
their
hard
work
and
and
let's
go
ahead
and
call
on
councilmember
willie
councilman
willie
did
you
want
to
say
something
before
we
here?
You
got
the
roll
call
vote.
L
Very
good
topic,
I
mean
the
climate
impacts,
the
the
shortage
of
foods
that
there
are,
you
know,
being
able
to
recycle.
All
these
things
are
are
good,
and
so
I
think
it's
good
for
the
for
the
the
planet.
It's
good
for
the
country,
it's
good
for
our
community
here,
and
so
I
think,
we're
making
a
real
good
step
in
the
right
direction.
The
more
more
steps
that
I
believe,
the
more
steps
that
we
make
in
the
right
direction,
the
more
opportunities
that
we're
going
to
see
for
even
more
step.
M
AD
Yeah,
the
1383
page
is
our
is
our
main
page
for
it,
but
we
are
working
on
more.
You
know
kind
of
user-friendly
outreach
to
folks
to
help,
I
think,
to
speak
to
councilmember
moore's
question
about.
You
know
how
the
heck
do
we
get
the
food
in
the
cart
without
making
a
big
mess,
and
so
we're
gonna
come
up
with
some
outreach
to
help
people
navigate
some
of
those
decisions
and
we'll
get
those
up
on
the
web
page
as
well.
Right
now,
it's
just
a
very
technical
list.
E
M
AD
O
A
Excellent,
thank
you
very
much
and
we
are
on
to
the
end
of
our
agenda
and
the
last
item
is
council
and
staff
comments
along
with
future
agenda
items.
Let's
say,
let's
say
two
minutes:
each
and
we'll
start
with
our
interim
city
manager.
Greg
was
there
anything
that
you
wanted
to
note
before
we
moved
on
to
council.
N
N
So
I
would
like
to
see
this
show
up
on
a
future
agenda
and
to
see
if
there
are
places
within
the
city
that
we
can
provide
this
service.
I
I
know
my
sons
attended,
santa
clara
university
and
the
the
restrooms
there
did
provide
these
products
free
of
charge,
and
I've
also
seen
this
at
the
gym.
They
didn't
mention
having
this
at
our
local
sports
center,
but
that
might
potentially
be
another
location
and
I'd
like
us
to
have
a
discussion
about
this.
Thank
you.
D
Okay,
so
I
have
one
agenda
item
that
I
would
post
last
time,
council
member
willie
talk
about
the
safe
storage
of
firearms
in
homes.
I
did
not
second
it
because
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
we
have
a
lot
of
things
on
the
city,
a
work
plan
so,
but
so
I
want
to
do
some
research.
How
how
how
much
time
is
going
to
take.
D
I
I
do
would
like
to
put
it
on
the
future
agenda,
but
for
next
spring,
and
maybe
in
the
meantime
maybe
our
public
safety
commission
can
look
at
it
and
do
a
little
start.
I
I
would
love
that
to
be
on
the
future
channel,
but
not
until
next
spring,
because
we
have
a
housing
elements
right
now,
but
I
would
like
to
propose
it
and
I
hope
maybe
council
member
willie
would
agree.
A
Okay,
thank
you
councilmember
way
and
well.
Okay.
So
let
me
let
me
ask
greg
greg.
I
I
think
before
I
get
you
an
email
from,
and
this
is
procedural
just
a
matter
of
timing,
I
forget
you
an
email
from
the
advocacy
group
that
was
asking
about
whether
you
and
I
talked
about
it
at
our
scheduling.
Did
you
happen
to
follow
up
with
them
at
all,
or
are
we
still
pending
on
that
one?
We.
O
A
O
A
Yeah,
the
request
here
is
for
our
next
work
plan.
Okay,
so
you
know
I'll
go
ahead
and
support
that
you
know
I
think
it
makes
sense,
given
the
fullness
of
our
you
know,
current
current
year's
agenda
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
assuming
councilmember
way.
You're
you're
done
with
your
comments
at
this
point.
Okay,
great.
M
Okay,
so
one
thing
is
the
I
mentioned
earlier:
I
think
we
have
people
usually
objecting
back
facing
balcony
in
the
house
and
due
to
sb9
coming
up.
I
wonder
if
we
can
modify
our
municipal
code
so
that
any
any
project
with
back
fencing
balcony
will
be
discretionary
approval,
because
this
situation
might
be
different,
so
that
might
be
part
that
could
be
added
to
our
current
objective
standards
work
and
the
second
one
is
our.
I
think
I
mentioned
this
a
few
times
whenever
we
have
a
consultant.
M
I
keep
have
to
ask
that
any
communication
with
the
consultant
will
be
treated
as
communication
with
ct
staff
so
that
all
communication
and
work
products
and
pro
documents
will
be
public
records.
But
then
I
don't
think
I
should
be
requesting
that
every
time
this
should
be
part
of
the
policy.
How
do
we
make
that
a
part
of
the
policy
so
that
it's
just
standard
procedure
and
then
the
next
one
is?
M
I
think
we
have
asked
for
forming
a
new
commission,
but
the
commission
application
is
coming
up
soon,
but
I
understand
that
the
city
staff
is
planning
to
put
that
in
november.
Hopefully
we
will
have
that
in
time,
but
I
think
every
time
we,
oh
sorry,
this
is
another
item.
The
community
grant
sorry
the
community
grant.
When
we
looked
at
the
community
grant
this
year,
we
hello,
we
made
an
exception
for
our
team
around
high
school,
so
we
made
an
exception
for
high
school
for
this
year,
which
doesn't
qualify
under
the
current
current
requirement.
M
So
I
think
we
should
be
looking
at
whether
our
grand
criteria
makes
sense
or
maybe
we
should
create
a
separate
category
for
high
school
clubs
and
then
another
thing-
the
historic
society
like
budget
line
item.
What
exactly
is
the
requirement
for
them
to
continue
to
receive
this
budget
line?
Item
of
twenty
thousand
that
should
be
discussed
early
and
and
another
thing
is
the
virtual
meeting
for
all
commissions
that,
whether
we
since
this
is
continuing
so
are
we
continuing.
M
A
Well,
I've
been
to
a
number
of
school
board
meetings
for
cusd
in
the
last
year
and
I
can
assure
you
that
you
can't
see
faces
of
commenters
but
okay.
Well,
thank
you.
Vice
mayor
ciao,
let's
go
on
to
council
member
willie.
Greg
your
hand
was
up.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
a
follow-up
point
or
before
we
go
on
councilman.
L
A
Thank
you,
councilmember,
wooley,
all
right
and
on
on
mine.
You
know
I'll
just
ask
staff
to
look
into
what
we
can
be
working
on
on
a
staff
level
for
some
of
these
items
and
then
also
try
to
try
to
match
some
of
the
requests
with
well.
We
already
have
pending
so,
for
instance,
vice
mayor
ciao's,
historic
society
budget
line
item.
I
think
we
do
have
a
subcommittee
that
was
working
with
historic
society,
for
instance,
so
maybe
some
follow-up
there.
A
I
think
that's
actually
something
that
could
be
within
the
discretion
of
you
know,
city
administration,
but
if
not,
we
could
be
teeing
it
up
for
a
potential
discussion
in
the
future,
and
so
just
some
requests
to
staff
to
you
know,
follow
up
on
these
and
see
if
we
can
in
an
efficient
manner
without
adding
to
our
you
know
already
very
yeah,
you
know
a
quite
packed,
you
know
work
plan,
you
know,
take
off
some
of
these.
These
requests.
A
So
you
know
with
that.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
a
very
productive
meeting
this
evening.
Hopefully
we're
you
know
going
in
the
in
the
right
direction
with
regard
to
a
number
of
our
problems,
and
you
know
thank
you
very
much.
I
I
think
we're
getting
our
narrative
out
there
and
hopefully
we're
able
to
you
know,
get
past.
Some
of
you
know
what
I
what
I
describe,
as
you
know
in
my
my
mayor's
corner,
writing
just
to
give
a
plug
for
that.
A
A
Well,
everyone.
Thank
you
very
much.
Our
next
meeting
is
on
october
19th,
and
so
before
I
adjourn
our
currently
regularly
scheduled
october
5th
meeting
well
before
midnight.
I
might
add
I
would
like
to
just
let
everyone
know
that
our
city
manager
search
goes
well.
You
know,
we've
scoured
the
country
and
applicants
have
come
in
from
the
four
corners
we'll
be
commencing.
A
Our
first
round
of
council
interviews
this
weekend
so
you'll
see
that
that
notice
come
out
in
the
next
day
or
two
just
wanted
to
let
everyone
know
and
then
to
feel
some
comfort,
and
you
know
our
follow-through
on
that
as
with
many
things.
So.
Thank
you
very
much
and
we'll
see
you
on
october,
19th
have
a
great
night.