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A
B
C
C
Of
various
budget
amendments,
so
you
kind
of
have
an
idea.
I
think
I
explained
this
once
before,
but
I
will
explain
it
again.
So
when
you
do
budget
amendments,
there's
pretty
much
three
different
ways
that
you
can
do
them
so
one
way
is,
is
if
you
have
excess
revenue,
you
can
capture
that
excess
revenue
and
offset
it
by
an
expense
which
is
what
I'm
doing
for
the
AFG
grant.
C
We
got
the
revenue
in
that
wasn't
in
our
budget
and
the
expenditures
in
that
weren't
in
our
budget,
so
the
excess
revenue
is
covering
the
excess
expense,
because
it's
a
grant
another
way
of
doing
a
budget
amendment
would
be
within
the
same
department.
You
can
raise
in
a
budget
and
lower
a
budget.
You
see
that
in
an
example
when
I
show
you
the
overtime
for
the
police
department.
D
C
Raised
the
overtime
budget
lowered
their
salaries
to
offset
it
within
that
department
and
then
the
other
way,
I've
done
that
you
can
do.
It
is
appropriating
from
fund
balance.
So
if
you
don't
necessarily
want
to
take
something
out
of
a
department
because
you're
really
not
sure
yet,
which
that's,
where
I'm
at
with
a
lot
of
these
I
appropriate
from
fund
balance,
but
what
happens
at
the
year-end
if
we
need
to
it'll
take
money
from
our
fund
balance
from
the
prior
year?
C
C
It's
just
a
placeholder
to
show
you
know
so
when
everything
at
the
year-end,
if
the
revenues
are
still
more
than
the
expenditures
we
didn't
apropriate
anything
or
if
it's
I'm
asking
for
four
hundred
thousand
and
it
ends
up
being
a
hundred
thousand,
then
they
only
take
one
hundred.
So
it's
not
a
guarantee
that
I'm
taking
this
money
out
of
our
savings.
B
E
C
B
A
question
for
a
clarification:
when
you
say
we've
spent
the
money,
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
we've
used
up
all
the
money
it
sold.
So,
let's,
let's
use
hypotheticals
here
to
keep
things
simple.
You
got
a
grant
that
came
in
for
a
fire
truck
or
three
large.
Well,
in
this
case
it
better
be
multiple
fire
trucks,
you've
paid
you
purchased
and
paid
for
them
already,
or
you
have
money
allotted
for
them
already.
We've.
C
Purchased
and
paid
for
them
already
and
we've
reached
because
most
grants
are
reimbursing,
so
whatever
expenses
he's
had
so
far
from
this
grant,
he's
been
paid
for
and
that's
what
I'm.
The
most
part,
there's
still
a
little
bit
more,
that
the
numbers
might
totally
not
balance
right
now,
but
I'm
only
grabbing
what
we
received
and
offsetting
it
with
what
we've
spent.
So
the
console
approves
the
expense.
C
B
So
I
had
a
couple
questions.
This
is
in
regards
to
page
9,
be
the
one
I
came
and
then
in
our
last
packet,
this
one
all
right.
So
the
first
question
I
had
really
in
the
cards
and
unfortunately
it's
not
here
our
corporate
counsel,
I
know
it's
60000,
over-budget
and
I
and
I
know
we
pay
pretty
good.
Some
is
there
because
of
the
audit
situation
or
potential
audit
situation
where
he's
been
using,
for
that
is
that
normal
60,000
spree
substantial
amount
based
on
the,
but
what
the
budget
is.
B
C
Haven't
thought
they
haven't
gone
over
budget
I,
just
anticipate
that
this
one
is
gonna
go
over
budget
at
this
point,
and
just
so
you
have
a
background.
Last
year
we
ended
up
spending
about
two
hundred
and
forty
five
thousand
dollars
in
legal
fees,
and
that
would
be
Gary
Miyake
and
then
it
would
be
the
Seacrest
group
for
all
of
the
prosecution's
and
non
litigation.
It's
both
groups
of
attorney
fees
and
we're
still
running
in
the
similar
pattern,
and
we
only
budgeted
two
hundred
thousand
for
it.
So
I'm
I
anticipate
it's
going
more.
C
C
C
Like
we
did
increase
from
one
year
to
the
last
for
the
4%
increase
that
you
gave
the
attorney,
so
it
like
the
year
before
it
was
a
hundred
and
ninety
that
was
budgeted
actually,
even
though
it
came
in
at
about
240,
and
then
we
added
the
10%
at
that
point
were
the
4%
which,
from
the
hundred
and
ninety
to
the
200,
is
a
little
bit
under
4%,
because
they're
increasing
their
rates.
That's
all
we
increased
so
yeah.
What
happened
when
we
do
the
budget
process
I
think
we
should
put
more
in
there.
Okay,
the.
B
C
C
B
C
D
B
The
next
one's
really
more
for
you
and
the
chief
and
our
chief
is
here
but
I
know
we
have
four
salaries
and
overtime.
Five
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
I
know
one
of
the
biggest
reasons
when
I
spoke
with
Linda
Vance,
the
Comptroller,
maybe
I'll
finish.
First
first
I'll
come
back
to
your,
so
we're
not
going
back
and
forth,
but
I'm
gonna
be
addressing
that
with
you.
B
F
B
Got
it?
Thank
you
all
right
and
then
the
last
question
is
for
the
chief.
You
don't
mind
me
today
for
you
on
time.
We
never
had
trouble
on
fire.
These
guys
are
easy,
cheesy,
no,
no
problems
right,
smooth
sailing,
so
we
have
on
here
five
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
that
was
used
for
overtime.
I
know.
One
of
the
biggest
issues
that
we've
got
is
a
lack
of
hiring
as
I
last
understood
it
you
were
I,
think.
Was
it
12
police
officers
under
what
you'd
like
it
to
be
around.
D
Let
them
address
it,
but
that's
what's
causing
this
adjustment,
because
we
can't
find
the
individuals
we
would
hire
them,
but
the
other
problem
is
we're
not
running
like
a
supermarket,
where
somebody's
in
the
middle
and
their
time's
up
and
a
new
catcher
comes
in
one
of
the
police
officers
on
duty
and
he's
got
a
let's
say:
a
domestic
trouble
he's
gonna.
Those
officers
are
gonna
finish
that
you
don't
Brett,
just
bring
two
new
police.
E
B
What
the
mayor
just
spoke
about
with
that
being
a
case,
and
let
me
switch
my
question
around
a
little
bit.
What
do
you
feel
is
a
chief
needs
to
be
done
and
I
have
a
pretty
good
idea.
Not
I've
heard
this,
but
what
which
direction?
Do
you
think
we
need
to
go
because
I
am
okay
over
time?
I
know
is
great
for
police
officers
and
iflows
support
the
police
officers.
B
But
obviously,
ideally
you
know
I
got
a
look
on
my
end
on
the
council
and
we
want
to
try
to
avoid
overtime,
obviously,
the
solutions
to
hire
more
officers.
So
the
question
to
you
is:
what
solutions
do
you
have
in
place
other
than
just
there
or
maybe
expand
on
that?
And
what
things
are
we
doing
as
a
as
a
police
department
to
be
able
to
try
to
bring
on
additional
officers
because
I
know
one
of
the
things
that
have
spoken?
B
I
spoke
with
a
couple:
different
people
in
the
police
field
and
I'm
time
with
people
up
there
in
the
police
field,
and
they
mentioned
in
our
vows,
we'll
read
about
it.
I
know
in
Detroit
they
have
their
own
recruitment
center.
Your
recruitment
center,
what
have
you
and
then
they
pay
for
you
to
be
able
to
go,
get
trained
to
become
a
police
officer.
Is
that
something?
Maybe
we
should
start
looking
into
to
be
able
to
attract
the
additional
12
13
14
officers
that
we
need
well.
G
This
is
a
multi-faceted
annular,
so
bear
with
me.
If
you
remember
several
years
back,
we
came
to
the
council
with
a
plan
to
go
forward
with
fulfilling
the
oddity
that
so
to
speak,
occurred
with
the
amount
of
people
retiring
in
a
specific
amount
of
time
very
closely
together,
which
caused
a
great
deal
of
these
vacancies.
G
I
was
researching
a
little
bit
before
he
came
and
I
think
we've
hired
35
brand
new
officers
since
I
became
captain
in
2015
I
really
feel
that
we're
moving
along
very
well,
and
you
have
to
look
at
it
from
this
perspective
once
we're
at
capacity
with
officers,
you
might
have
a
trickle
effect
after
that
one
or
two
here.
It's
not
this
big
glutton
of
retirements
that
occurred
that
we
had
to
replace
so
I
think
we're
doing
the
right
things.
G
Everything's
going
along
as
it
should,
and
hiring
a
police
officer
is
not
as
easy
as
getting
an
applicant
putting
in
more
to
next
day
when
they
get
hired.
There's
a
significant
amount
of
cost
upfront
between
uniforms
guns,
training.
They
don't
just
get
a
set
of
keys
and
told
to
go
patrol.
They
have
to
go
through
a
field
training
process,
some
of
them
make
it
some
of
it.
Don't
the
hiring
process
in
and
of
itself
there's
psychological
reviews,
there's
physicals
that
need
to
be
done.
All
these
things,
they're
a
significant
cost
amount
to
them.
G
In
addition
to
that,
we've
had
a
significant
amount
of
promotion
effect
out
of
the
eighteen
628
supervisors.
We
have
there's
only
three
that
haven't
been
promoted
in
the
last
five
years.
Everybody
else
is
brand
new,
so
there's
a
lot
of
movement
within
the
police
department
that
I
think
is
going
to
come
to
rust,
and
the
dust
will
settle
here
within
the
next
year.
We're
doing
very
well,
we've
interviewed,
probably
I,
think
we
have
at
least
13
new
applicants
that
have
applied
but
again
I
caution
that
we
can't
hire
13
people
at
one
time
right.
G
B
B
G
A
E
From
a
law
enforcement,
family
well
they're,
all
you're
saying
is
some
things
have
I've
heard
constantly
about.
Nobody
wants
to
be
a
police
officer
anymore,
my
son-in-law
retired,
from
one
one
city
to
another
city
and
as
even
as
a
25-year
veteran
II
that
they
have
would
be
proficient
in
his
handgun.
Take
physicals,
so
yeah
you're,
right,
I,
understand
yeah.
H
I
So
we
went
through
what
the
police
department's
going
through,
maybe
five
years
ago,
where
we
were
really
struggling
to
get
people
and
now
come
next
year.
We're
gonna
have
about
seven
people
retire.
First,
one
is
going
to
be
this
March,
and
so
now
we're
going
to
be
struggling
to
try
to
fill
those
spots
as
well.
I
I
think
they're
right
now
on
the
MPF
fu
website,
there's
19
or
23
fire
departments
that
are
actively
hiring
and
they've
been
hiring
and
they
just
have
the
applications
open
because
but
right
now
to
answer
your
question:
we're
not
down
to
anybody
were
fall,
but
we're
heading
towards
this
very
similar
problem.
I
think.
I
D
J
I
If
you
know
how
to
look
at
contracts,
and
so
when
we
have
people
that
when
we
do
open
for
applications
most
of
the
people
are
hiring
or
coming
from
other
departments
we're
hiring
guys
that
sometimes
have
six
seven
years
on
at
other
departments
that
are
that
are
changing
to
come
over
to
our
department.
So
we've
done
a
lot
of
good
things.
Maybe
we've
maintained
a
lot
of
benefits
that
other
Department
have
lost
over
the
years,
including
the
other
pension
is
probably
the
biggest
one.
So
I've.
G
G
Probably
the
main
draw
between
the
drop
program
and
the
defined
benefit
country
or
the
pension
plan,
is
the
biggest
draw
to
coming
to
Dearborn
Heights
right
now,
for,
like
chief
said,
we
have
a
lot
of
people
that
have
come
from
other
departments
and
that
was
from
I
heard
through
the
grapevine.
The
main
reason
that
they
came
here
well.
J
E
You
know
if
I
said
to
Becca.
Thank
you
or
not,
but
I.
Don't
remember,
I,
don't
remember
either,
but
if
I
didn't
thank
you
when
I
first
got
this
I'm
saying
what
the
hell
is,
it
I
don't
know
what
it
is
yeah
and
and
as
the
councilman
della
was
going
through,
it
I
was
getting
some
of
it
just
for
it,
but
what
I've
never
understood
is
retirement
prior
years.
C
In
all
of
the
other
departments,
if
Elizabeth,
if
Marian
retires,
Anne
Elizabeth's
department,
this
line
that
I'm
using
would
be
the
same
line
Elizabeth
it's
the
only
line,
but
when
we
pay
someone
out
their
excess
vacation
in
seconds
how's
that,
then
it's
in
a
three
payment
thing.
So
she'll
get
three
installments,
but
that's.
C
So
the
one
person
in
my
department,
I,
did
not
I
mean,
and
most
people
don't
give
you
a
year
in
advance
to
let
you
know
that
they're
retiring,
at
least
with
police
and
fire
they
kind
of
have
a
finite
day,
even
though
it's
still
between
five
and
seven
years
or
whatever
I
have
no
idea
that
far
in
advance
in
our
budget
and
I
had
a
retirement
and
same
thing
with
John
saw
me.
He
had
two
that
weren't
announced
until
a
couple
months
prior
to
to
the
retirement
when.
C
Like
I
said
with
my
department,
there's
not
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
given
our
department,
so
in
my
department
in
particular,
that's
why
the
appropriation
of
the
fund
balance
is
being
utilized
for
this
particular
scenario.
But
since
the
fund
as
a
whole
is
what
we'd
make
sure
that
we're
in
check
not
necessarily
individual
departments.
We
try
to
keep
the
individual
departments
good,
but
if
not,
it
has
to
be
the
fund
as
a
whole.
So.
E
C
Not
necessarily
the
fun
balance
at
the
end
of
the
year.
If
really
there
isn't
enough
revenue
that
covers
the
expenditure,
then
it
would
come
from
the
fund
balance,
but
me
asking
for
it
saying:
I,
don't
have
the
money
in
my
department,
because
really
all
I
have
is
based
wages.
There's
nothing
there
to
cover
that
15,000.
C
So
I'm
asking
to
appropriate
from
fund
balance
if
the
police
are
fire
at
that
point
at
the
end
of
the
year
might
have
a
surplus
in
any
any
department,
because
when
the
auditors
look
at
it,
it's
the
budget
as
a
whole,
not
departmentalized.
Even
though
I
try
to
do
the
budget
amendments
departmentalized.
The
fund
as
a
whole
has
to
have
a
balance.
How.
C
Take
a
little
bit
I
mean
regular,
like
I
mean
like
office
supplies
like
in
my
department,
there's
no
like
five
or
six
items,
let's
just
say
so.
There
is
like
trainings
or
something
and
then
get
office
supplies
and
we
might
have
budget
in
2000
for
office
supplies
and
only
came
out
at
800,
but
the
year
prior
we
did
hire,
it
could
be
little
pieces
of
it,
but
most
departments
fall
under
their
budget,
but
but
not
like
I,
don't
I
won't
fall.
1,500.
D
E
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We
do
evaluate
like
now
we're
we're
working
on
the
budget
process
and
we
do
evaluate
each
department
to
see
where
they're
landing.
So,
let's
just
say
our
postage
line
this
year.
It's
very
high
because
clerks
have
an
election,
so
they're
sending
out
a
lot
of
ballots.
So
this
year's
postage
budget
could
be
way
higher
than
next
year's
because
there's
not
going
to
be
in
the
elections,
not
to
say
that
there
isn't.
But
you
know
what
I'm
saying
so
we
do
kind
of
look
at
that
and
we
don't
just
arbitrarily
put
numbers
in
there.
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B
This
is
for
cheap
Petrie,
again
gotta
bother
you
today.
Oh
no,
please
so
a
lot
of
things
that
were
seen
with
with
police
departments
right
now-
and
you
mentioned
it
earlier
because
there's
so
over
time,
you're
having
a
hard
time
hiring
or
getting
people,
qualify,
etcetera,
etc,
and
obviously,
at
one
point
we
did
raise
the
amount
of
salaries
for
starting
police
officers,
but
now
you're,
starting
to
see
more
and
more
of
that
where
I
know
just
most
recently,
Detroit
raised
it
to
42,000
starting
salary
and
then
Farmington
Hills
raised
it.
B
B
As
far
as
you
know,
morality
in
the
police
department
and
as
far
as
getting
more
people
to
come
into
our
you
know
our
department,
but
maybe
making
it
at
forty
five
or
forty
eight
thousand
dollars,
because
I
actually
personally
had
been
favored
in
in
having
additional
pay
to
be
able
to
attract
more
and
then
be
able
to
select
from
a
much
bigger
bucket.
The
best
of
the
best
yeah.
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It's
Joe
and
that's
a
obviously
significant
amount
of
money,
given
the
size
of
their
force,
like
I,
said
I
think
increasing
the
pay,
along
with
the
the
benefit
package
that
we
have
makes
us
a
stellar
department
to
work
for
and
as
soon
as
we
get
these
next
few
individuals
hired
I
think
we're
gonna
be
good
for
for
quite
a
while.
What.
B
G
I
would
love
to
have
that
that
would
be
when
I
started
as
a
police
officer,
we
did
have
cadets,
they
ran
the
fire,
dispatch,
police,
dispatch
cell
area
and
front
desk,
and
it
was
a
great
program.
I
can't
remember
why
we
did
away
with
it,
but
they
went
to
a
consolidation,
stead.
I
think
it
is
a
it's
a
good
program.
It's
definitely
worth
looking
into,
but
again
being
the
last
few
years
that
we've
been
somewhat
crippled
with
the
amount
of
employees
that
we
have
to
work
with.
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Thank
you
any
further
answer
to
mr.
Aldo
Hawks
question.
A
lot
of
cities
tailors
the
poster
child.
They
spiked
their
pension,
so
if
they
get
their
last
two
or
last
three,
they
get
a
lot
of
overtime
and
then
their
pension
is
based
on
those
last
two
or
last
three.
They
could
let's
say
they
made
50,000
every
year,
but
then
they
somehow
worked
it.
So
for
two
years
they
made
80,000
with
the
overtime
their
pension
will
be
based
on
80,000,
so
the
term
is
spiking.
Their
pension
is
correct.