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From YouTube: 11-15-21 City Council
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Des Moines City Council meeting on Monday, Nov. 15, 2021.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/CouncilMeetings
C
D
D
I
felt
very
welcome
and
at
home
when
I
moved
here
from
tema,
and
I
was
very
surprised
to
learn
that
there
is
approximately
10,
000,
indigenous
or
native
american,
identifying
people
within
the
city
of
des
moines,
which
was
very
cool.
So
I'm
not
the
only
one,
but
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
recognizing
thank.
C
and
whereas
iowa
was
once
home
to
more
than
17
different
indigenous
tribes,
including
the
iowa,
the
sac,
the
fox,
the
muskogee
citizen,
potawatomi,
ponek,
otwa
and
missouri,
and
whereas
there
is
a
need
to
create
in
people
a
consciousness,
respect
and
endearment
for
the
legacy
of
indigenous
people's
culture.
History,
including
traditional
knowledge,
experience,
labor
technology,
science,
philosophy,
industry
and
art,
as
well
as
their
cultural
belief
system
that
stipulates
indigenous
people
as
protectors
and
stewards
of
our
national
environment,
for
the
benefit
of
all
and
for
all
of
us
on
this
planet.
C
Therefore,
I,
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
des
moines,
on
behalf
of
our
city
council
and
the
residents
of
des
moines,
do
hereby
proclaim
the
month
of
november
2021
as
native
american
heritage
month,
and
I
encourage
all
of
our
residents
to
celebrate
our
diverse
heritage
and
culture
and
continue
our
efforts
to
create
a
world
that
is
more
just
compassionate
and
equitable
for
all
kelly.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
being
here.
C
Thank
you
hang
on
one
second,
you
know,
I
want
to
say
one
other
thing.
I
don't
have
a
proclamation
for
it,
but
for
all
of
our
citizens
who
served
in
the
armed
forces
through
the
years.
I
want
to
thank
them
for
their
service.
I
was
not
here
at
the
last
meeting,
and
so
I
may
have
missed
it,
but
I
want
to
thank
our
veterans
either
on
staff
or
citizens
of
our
city
or
of
this
state
for
their
service
and
dedication
of
this
country.
So
thank
you
all.
E
F
C
F
C
Before
we
start
our
meeting,
I
want
to
relate
to
everybody
that,
due
to
our
continued
increased
community
transmission
of
coven
19
here
in
polk
county,
we
have
implemented
a
face
covering
requirement
in
our
city
buildings
and
the
requirements
applied
to
both
the
staff
and
visiting
public
in
attendance
at
council
meetings.
And
if
you
do
not
have
a
face
covering
one
will
be
provided
for
you.
C
The
public
is
hereby
notified
that
the
city
council
will
not
tolerate
a
disruption
of
its
business
meetings
and
persons
wishing
to
attend.
This
meeting
are
reminded
of
the
following,
and
these
are
rules
that
we
have
read
and
modified
a
couple
of
times,
but
almost
over
a
year
now
I
think
we've
been
working
on
this.
C
Anyone
engaging
in
disruptive
conduct
in
the
council,
chambers
or
the
great
hall
will
result
in
those
being
disruptive
being
ordered
to
leave
the
building
and
being
denied
re-admittance.
For
the
remainder
of
the
day,
no
person
will
be
permitted
to
stand
in
the
council
chambers,
either
beside
their
seat
or
on
their
seat
during
council
sessions
between
the
audience
seats
and
the
council
members,
except
the
persons
addressing
the
council
at
the
speaker's
microphone
and
only
after
being
recognized.
C
So
all
persons
desiring
to
address
the
council
may
do
so
when
recognized,
but
the
council
reserves
the
right
to
limit
the
speaker's
time
and
order
in
which
the
speakers
may
address
the
council
under
section
2-70,
the
city
code.
It
is
illegal
to
interrupt
any
person
who
is
addressing
the
council,
except
by
a
council
member.
C
It
is
illegal
to
disrupt
the
council
meeting.
Everyone
in
attendance
has
first
amendment
rights
in
any
disruptive
conduct
by
one
person
or
group
impinges
on
the
rights
of
others
who
are
present.
So
disruptive
conduct
will
not
be
tolerated
if
the
meeting
is
disrupted.
The
public
speaking
portion
of
the
meeting
may
be
moved
to
the
next
in-person
meeting,
which
is
not
disrupted.
C
Those
who
disrupt
the
meeting
will
not
be
called
on
during
the
meeting
will
be
ordered
to
leave
the
building
and
may
be
cited
or
arrested
for
disorderly
conduct,
trespass
or
interfering
with
the
good
order
of
the
meeting
or
any
other
applicable
charges.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
those
rules
are
in
place.
C
C
That's
on
concern,
okay,
so
all
right
do
we
have
a
motion,
I'll
move
it
all
right,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
any
opposition
hearing
none
item
two
is
passed
item.
Three
is
approving
the
consent
agenda
tonight.
Those
are
items
three
through
thirty
one
and
these
are
generally
routine
items
and
will
be
enacted
by
one
role
called
vote
without
separate
discussion
unless
someone
either
council
member
or
a
public
this.
C
H
C
C
J
C
C
We
also
have
a
vacation
hearing
and
several
conveyance
hearings.
One
restated
urban
revitalization
plan,
a
lease
amendment
and
a
lease
purchase
hearing
and
one
public
improvement
hearing.
As
a
reminder
for
the
that
zoning
item,
which
is
item
32,
we
will
hear
from
the
parties
in
interest
and
first
and
then
the
public,
so
the
parties
in
interest
are
the
applicant
or
those
persons
living
within
250
feet
of
the
property
to
be
rezoned,
to
whom
the
city
has
sent
a
notice.
After
all,
the
parties
in
interest
have
commented
on
it.
C
We
will
open
it
up
to
any
member
of
the
public
for
germaine
comments
to
aid
in
recognizing
the
parties
in
interest
to
the
zoning
item
speak.
I
will
ask
everyone
else
to
not
step
up
to
the
microphone
unless
they
are
the
zoning
applicant
or
live
within
that
250
feet
and
receive
that
mailed
notice
for
the
rezoning.
C
C
F
C
First,
consideration
of
this
ordinance
and
again
parties
and
interests.
We
will
ask
now
again
that's
the
applicant
or
anybody
that
lives
within
250
feet
of
the
property
to
whom
has
received
a
notice
to
speak
and
then,
after
that,
we'll
ask
for
germaine
comments
from
the
general
public
one
minute
per
person
to
speak
up
to
seven
minutes
maximum.
So
again,
on
this
item
regarding
wesley
life
to
amend
plan
dsm,
we
will
ask.
Are
there
any
parties
in
interest
in
the
audience
this
evening,
either
the
applicant
or
one
who
received
notice
within
250
feet?
B
B
So
I'm
happy
to
see
this
they're
also
going
to
get
a
restaurant
built
or
a
restaurant
is
part
of
this
project,
so
that
will
add
another
amenity.
On
top
of
that,
and
I
believe
that
they
work
to
address
some
neighborhood
concerns
with
with
the
property
as
well,
and
my
understanding
is
all
that
has
been
worked
out.
So
I
am
happy
to
move
item
32
32a
and
pursue
it
to
rule
42
b,
waive
the
second
and
third
reading.
C
J
L
C
C
C
J
C
All
right
item
35
is
on
the
conveyance
of
access,
city-owned
property
locally
known
as
2411
2501
and
2505
sunset,
road
and
district
parcels,
0
1,
0,
zero.
Five:
two:
two:
nine
dash:
zero,
zero,
zero
dash,
zero,
zero,
zero
and
zero
one
zero
slash,
zero.
Five:
two:
three:
zero
dash:
zero:
zero,
zero
dash,
zero,
zero,
zero
to
midwest
quality
wholesale
inc
for
a
hundred
and
thirty
three
thousand
two
hundred
dollars.
Council
communication
number
21-492
and
we'll
ask
for
any
jermaine
comments
from
the
general
public
regarding
this
excess
property
that
is
being
transferred
for
133
200.
C
All
right,
I'm
36
on
a
proposed
lease
purchase
agreement
in
the
principal
amount
of
not
to
exceed
fifty
four
thousand
four
hundred
and
fifty
five
dollars
for
the
purpose
of
acquiring
equipment
consisting
of
a
ford
e
transit
cargo
van
350.
Electric
vehicle
germain
comments
on
this
item
from
the
public
up
to
one
minute:
five
minutes
maximum.
Anyone
to
speak
on
this.
B
C
J
C
C
And
dash
135-2
relating
to
flat
a
and
flat
b
building
types
and
regulations
c
is
the
final
consideration.
The
ordinance
above
and
the
waiver
is
requested
by
our
development
service
director
and
requires
six
votes
again,
we'll
open
it
up
for
any
jermaine
comments
from
the
general
public.
Regarding
this
urban
revitalization
planned,
citywide,
revitalization
area.
M
I've
asked
the
city
manager's
office
and
he
referred
me
to
someone
in
economic
development
regarding
some
of
the
questions
I
had
on
this
program,
which
has
been
in
place
since
1987.,
I'm
sure
you've
all
read
it.
It's
quite
long.
There's
lots
of
flowery
verbiage
about
affordable
housing,
how
these
programs
are
going
to
bring
on
affordable
housing.
M
C
N
Clock
is
already
now
gone
when
I
asked
how
the
changes
were
determined
for
this
program.
I
was
told
that
the
city
manager,
as
well
as
the
council
and
the
mayor,
had
requested
these.
These
changes.
When
I
said
how
was
it
determined
that
these
changes
should
be
made?
What
financials
did
you
use?
What
numbers
did
you
look
at?
I
asked
several
times
several
people.
It
doesn't
appear
to
me.
There
are
any
numbers,
maybe
they're
being
held
in
the
back
office
in
finance
somewhere,
but
it
seems
to
me
for
a
program.
N
F
C
G
I
I
voted
against
this
when
we
were
setting
the
date
of
hearings
and
I
will
vote
for
it
tonight.
I
think
that
everything
in
here
is
good,
but
it
doesn't
do
enough
and
it
still
bothers
me
when
I
sat
in
this
council
in
2015,
and
we
came
up
with
a
spider
web
map
for
for
large
apartment
complexes,
which
we
know
are
affordable
housing
and
in
order
for
in
order
for
affordable
housing
to
be
built.
G
G
To
me,
it
feels
like
it's
another
way
to
redline
we're
saying
we're
only
going
to
put
affordable
housing
which
affordable
housing
has
a
definition
of
somebody
who
lives.
There
is
80
of
the
median
income,
so
it
it
seems
to
me
that
we're
still
saying
we're
only
going
to
we're
only
going
to
put
affordable
housing
in
these
certain
spider
webs
and
that
doesn't
feel
right
to
me.
It
it
just
simply.
Doesn't
it
doesn't
feel
right
and
in
since
2015?
G
G
G
What
we're
doing
is
we're
helping
the
suburbs
build
houses
that
that
people
can
go
and
buy
that
are
affordable
because
they
certainly
can't
afford
it.
In
des
moines
and
tax
abatement,
they
still
pay
pay
taxes
on
the
land.
So
if
you
have
a
vacant
piece
of
land,
you're
still
going
to
get
all
the
taxes
for
that.
But
when
we
have
homes
built,
it
takes
more
than
a
thousand
pairs
of
hands
to
build
a
house,
that's
jobs,
that
is
employment.
G
B
B
I
think
if
we
are
going
to
continue
to
provide
incentives
which
are
optional,
tax
abatement
is
an
optional
incentive
that
we
should
be
moving
towards
all
electric
all-electric
construction
and-
and
I
think
that
should
be
a
condition
of
future
future
abatement.
It's
so.
I
would
actually
like
to
either
well.
I
will
move
to
amend
if
we're
going
to
go
forward
with
that
today
or
I'd
move
to
delay
so
that
we
can
consider
all
electric
a
requirement
for
all
electric
in
the
in
any
of
the
buildings
for
new
construction.
B
G
H
Josh,
I
I
appreciate
a
lot
of
the
things
that
you
said.
I
I
don't
know
enough
about
some
of
the
things
that
you
talked
about.
I
would
agree
that
we
probably
need
some
more
information
about
the
majority
of
us
have
gas
furnaces
in
our
home.
I
think
that's.
That's
one
thing
that
that
the
majority
of
folks
do
have
in
their
house.
I
don't
know
what
the
ramifications
of
asking
people
to
have
just
electric
heaters
in
their
house,
so
I
would
definitely
like
to
have
some
more
information
about
that
cost
wise.
H
We
changed
the
tax
abatement
as
a
right
to
have
tax
abatement
for
multi-family
housing,
because
the
neighbors
asked
us
to
the
neighbors
didn't
want
anywhere
that
there
was
a
land
parcel,
that
they
can
go,
build
an
apartment,
complex
on,
and
we
would
automatically
give
them
tax
abatement.
Then
they
would
take
that
tax
abatement
and
use
it
as
a
credit
to
get
ifa
tax
credits.
That's
why
that
was
changed
in
2015
for
that
reason,
because
they
were
using
that
not
they
use
that
automatically
as
an
incentive
from
the
city
to
say.
H
Yes,
we
don't
care
where
you
build
that
and
we
don't
care
how
many
you
build.
It
can
be
in
the
middle
of
the
neighborhood
and
we
are
and
they
applied
for
ifa
tax
credits,
which
are
state
tax
credits
and
they
used
our
abatement
to
get
that.
That's
why
that
map
was
changed.
So
let's
not
lose
sight
that
we
had
a
year
of
meetings
with
neighbors
that
came
to
us
and
said:
can
you
please
stop
that
they're
they're
inundating
our
neighborhoods
and
they're
changing
our
neighborhoods,
it's
different
on
some
corridors
on
transit
routes?
H
If
we
want
to
go
back
and
revisit
some
of
those,
I'm
fine
with
that,
but
when
you
want
to
open
it
up
again
for
tax
abatement
wherever
and
you
can
build
11
and
12
complexes,
that
is
not
fair.
First
of
all,
for
the
people
that
live
there,
they
should
be
surrounded
with
a
mixed
use,
and
I
think
we
should
focus
more
on
mixed
use,
whether
it
be
low
income
and
and
other
incomes
are
grouped
together.
I
don't
think
anyone
should
be
living
a
low
income
with
12
or
13
units
altogether
in
one
area.
H
G
G
P
G
C
H
Talking
about
you're
talking
about
two
different
things
and
the
neighbors
would
agree
with
when,
when
you
come
to
them
with
a
senior
housing
project,
they
act.
The
neighborhood
associations
are
definitely
act
different
when
you,
when
you,
when
a
developer,
comes
and
wants
to
do
a
senior
housing
project
with
multiple
units
than
than
any
other.
H
But
I
mean
I
I
going
back
to
josh's.
I
can't
support
that
right
now,
josh,
because
I
don't
have
enough
information
if
we
want
to.
If
we
want
to
continue
this
until
we,
we
sit
down
and
have
a
workshop
and
we
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
what
what
is
affordable
as
far
as
gas
and
electric,
what
works,
what
doesn't
work?
I
would
be
interested
in
hearing
that
those
things
before
I
could
support
that.
I.
R
G
And
especially,
definitely-
and
we
really
had
a
lot
of
meetings
where
we
brought
in
to
talk
about
this.
You
know
we
have
whole
neighborhoods
that
were
all
electric
back
in
the
early
70s
and
it
was
very
expensive
and
it
was
harder
to
to
sell
those
houses.
I
mean
people
did
not
care
for
the
all-electric,
they
liked
their
their
gas.
So
I
don't
know
that
we
would
get
that.
I
I
do
know
that
we
have
somebody
in
the
audience.
Could
we
allow
a
non-profit
to
talk
I'd
like
to
hear
what
she
thinks
about
it?
C
C
I
don't
know
how
many
days
everybody
has
on
this,
but
I've
got
an
opinion
on
on
performance
and
and
how
it
leads
to,
as
josh
said
where
we
are
with
2050
requirements,
meeting
net
zero
and
trying
to
do
it
even
before
that
and
quite
frankly,
to
me.
This
is
about
the
future
of
this
country
of
this
planet
of
this
state
and
we
need
to
be
leaders-
and
this
is
a
huge
issue,
so
go
ahead.
S
S
I
agree
with
the
energy
efficiency.
We
as
an
organization
have
been
looking
for
ways
both
in
our
development
as
well
as
in
our
single-family
lending.
To
do
that.
So
I
have
I
agree
with
your
statement.
I
just
want
to
point
out
on
affordable
when
you're
we're
building
an
affordable
home,
a
single-family
home
for
a
low-income
person.
The
abatement
is
a
bonus
maybe,
but
it
really
doesn't
create
any
affordability,
because
we're
required
to
count
what
the
taxes
are
going
to
be
once
it's
done.
So,
if
you're
looking
to
encourage
single
family
development,
that's
affordable.
S
T
Hi
endear
shoemaker
ward
one.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
when
we're
talking
about
80,
affordable,
linda
said:
that's
just
a
normal
income,
and
I
think
that
is
really
important
in
this.
So
we're
not
really
talking
about
affordable
housing,
we're
not
talking
about
low
income,
we're
not
talking
about
poverty
level
housing,
so
I
believe
the
first
speaker
was
correct
when
they
said
there
wasn't
any
affordable
housing
requirements
put
into
this,
I
think
that's
the
most
important
thing.
T
The
interest
of
this
is
increasing
the
missing
middle
housing,
and
so
single-family
housing
isn't
really
increasing
that.
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
having
a
lot
of
units
together
is
not
necessarily
a
bad
thing
as
long
as
you
are
building
up
a
community
that
has
the
resources
that
people
need
is
on
those
transit
corridors
has
like
access
to
food
like
we
have
food
deserts
in
this
city,
pretty
bad,
but
it
needs
to
actually
be
affordable
and
need
to
actually
have
those
resources.
C
R
J
J
You
know
from
these
in
the
70s
and
there's
a
lot
more
things
out
there
that
would
make
it
affordable
for
builders
to
build
doing
all
of
electric
and
for
the
residents
to
you
have
all
electric
as
we
keep
going
forward,
so
whether
we
defer
it
and
we
go
back
and
look
at
what
we
could
do
to
strengthen
this.
I
would
be
supportive
of
that,
but
I
do
think
we
have
to
be
realistic
as
to
what
we
need
to
be
doing
going
forward.
J
F
O
We're
looking
at
without
overstepping
the
large
density
that
we
know
that
a
lot
of
the
neighborhoods
have
have
given
push
back
to
so
there's
an
awful
lot
of
a
lot
of
effort
into
finding
that
middle
ground
in
the
policy.
With
this
with
the
opportunity
for
further
improvement
on
the
all-electric,
which
again
I
would
offer,
which
is
probably
a
half
year
worth
of
conversations,
and
so
the
in
the
last
thing
is
that
the
builders
are
trying
to
plan
out
next
calendar
year.
O
B
L
O
J
C
C
Next
item
is
item
38
on
the
vacation
of
a
portions
of
crocker
street
12th
street
and
kiyosaku
away
right
of
way
of
joining
1201
kiyosaku
away
in
a
conveyance
of
a
permanent
easement
for
building
encroachment
door
swing
to
aust
real
estate
llc
for
five
thousand
seven
hundred
and
sixty
dollars
a
is
the
first
consideration,
the
ordinance
above
we'll
quickly
open
it
up
and
see.
If
there's
any
jermaine
comments
regarding
this
vacation
of
crocker
street,
it
looks
like
for
a
permanent
easement
on
door
swing.
C
F
J
C
Okay
moves
this
item
39,
which
is
on
an
amendment
of
the
lease
of
the
botanical
center
to
the
greater
des
moines,
botanical
garden
council
communication.
Number
21-494
is
approval
of
the
third
amendment
and
restated
urban
renewal
development
agreement
with
the
greater
des
moines,
botanical
garden
center
garden
b
is
to
terminate
robert
d
ray
asian
garden.
C
Maintenance
and
repair
agreements
with
the
des
moines
riverfront
development
authority
and
c
is
the
termination
of
the
chapter
28e
agreement
with
the
des
moines
riverfront
development
authority
for
planning
construction
and
maintaining
riverfront
facilities
and
improvements
in
the
downtown
area,
we'll
open
it
up
and
see.
If
there's
any
jermaine
comments
from
the
general
public
on
this.
G
I
miss
mayor
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
item
39,
a
b
and
c
with
the
with
the
comments
that
a
big
shout
out
to
ben
page,
because
he's
worked
on
this
for
a
long
long
time
and
it
was
a
moving
target.
It
seems
like
there
was
always
something
different
happening,
and
now
we
have
the
asian
gardens
and-
and
so
there
was
a
lot
of
work,
so
ben
really
did
a
lot
of
work
on
that
kim
perez.
G
I
know
she's
in
the
audience
she's
the
ceo
and
she's
done
a
great
job,
bringing
all
this
together
and
scott
because
scott,
you
and
I
started
talking
about
this
what
four
years
ago,
and
so
here
we
are
today,
it's
a
great
amenity
for
our
city
and
it
doesn't
matter
where
you
live
in
the
city.
The
botanical
garden
is
very
easy
to
get
to.
So
with
that.
I
those
are
my
comments
and
I
just
would
move
to
approve
a
b
and
c.
H
Than
yes
but
mayor,
real,
quick
and-
and
I'm
very
supportive
of
it-
and
thank
you-
everyone
linda
called
out
everybody,
but
we
do
have
another
amenity
in
the
city
that
the
the
blank
park
zoo
that
I
believe
will
be
hopefully
coming
back
to
us
and
looking
for
some
city
grants
when
they
do
an
extensive
change
to
their
entrance
and
and
some
other
things.
So
I
just
want
everyone
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
we
as
we
work
with
one
great
amenity
that
we
have.
H
We
also
have
another
one
that
that
has
a
lot
of
needs
in
especially
that's
a
great
attraction
for
our
entire
state.
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear
that
there,
as
I
as
I
vote
for
this
and
I'm
very
supportive
of
it,
I
hope
that
everyone
that's
at
this
table
will
be
supportive,
as
as
we
move
forward
for
for
the
zoo
and
some
of
the
changes
that
they've
got
coming
forward.
J
C
All
right
that
takes
us
to
item
40.
item
40
is
on
the
skywalk
hvac
replacement
phase
four
resolution:
improving
the
plan,
specifications,
form
of
contract
documents,
engineers
estimate
and
receive
and
file
bids
and
designating
the
lowest
responsive
responsible
bidder
is
stein
heating
and
cooling
inc.
Brian
p
stein
is
president
218
thousand
dollars
council
communication
number
21-488
is
approval
of
the
contract
and
bond
and
permission
to
sublet,
we'll
ask
now.
A
Hi
garland
armstrong
here
in
des
moines
at
3728,
hubbell
avenue
just
want
to
make
sure
for
this
about
the
for
the
skywalk,
because
are
they
going
to
like
remodel
it
or
make
it
a
little
bit
more
or
more
expanding
it,
because
my
wife
and
I
like
to
go
through
the
sidewalk
a
whole
lot
when,
especially
with
with
some
shortcuts
to
it
and
and
I'm
just
wanting
to
make
sure
they're
going
to
expand
it
or
or
they're
going
to
try
to
demolish
it
or
something
or
because
we
have.
I
have
no
idea.
C
H
Mayor
real
quick
just
over
the
last
few
days
and
I've
sent
this
off
to
steve
nabor.
I've
got
extensive
emails
from
from,
and
I've
included
you
in
this,
where
we
have
multiple
parts
of
the
skywalk
system
that
needs
that
needs
some
attention
and
I'm
not
sure
who
is
who
is
responsible
for
this,
I
believe
there
are
ours
is
what
my
understanding
is.
You
know
everything
from
poor
ventilation
to
poor
lighting.
H
H
C
C
H
It's
my
understanding,
there's
been
multiple
meetings
and
no
one's
taken
responsibility
for
any
of
these
fixes.
Yeah
and
we've
been
involved
with
it.
The
private
industry
has
been
involved
with
it
and
no
one
is
stepping
up
to
to
make
the
changes
that
we
need.
So
I
I'm
hoping
that
we'll
get
some
type
of
answer
and
get
it
figured
out.
I
O
H
F
H
Detailed
list
and
I've
sent
it
to
engineering,
I
think
they're
responsible
for
it,
and
I
also
included
you
in
this
and
I'm
hoping
to
get
some
type
of
answer
before
the
meeting.
But
no
one's
even
responded
that
they
got
the
email.
So
I'm
I'm
hoping
to
to
somebody
at
least
respond
and
get
it
something.
C
Yeah,
so
we're
going
to
try
to
get
that
update,
but
I
think
in
this
point
we
need
to
get
the
hbac
fixed.
Yes,
because,
as
joe
points
out
there's
certain
sections
that
I
think
that's
not
even
working,
so
that
takes
care
at
least
his
part,
but
let's
have
a
quick
follow-up
on
the
other,
just
a
whole
system.
Let
us
understand,
what's
going
on
so
do.
I
U
Standing
go
ahead.
Thank
you,
hello.
My
name
is
adam
calanan,
ward,
350
50309.
I
live
downtown
and
I
used
to
skywalk
a
bit,
so
I
know
how
necessary
this
is.
There's
a
lot
of
spots
where
you
can
see
the
leaks
kind
of
like
jokado
mentioned
and
yeah
just
parts
that
aren't
heated,
there's
a
huge
open
public
space,
partially
public
space.
That's
really
underutilized,
and
I
hope
that
this
can
lead
more
utilization.
U
O
C
V
All
right,
honorable
mayor
members
of
city,
council,
steve
neighbor
city
engineer
regarding
the
question,
the
the
htc
replacement
is
specifically
for
two
skywalk
bridges
and
and
those
bridges
that
that
work
will
be
done
next
year.
So
it
won't
be
done.
Before
I
mean
it,
it
takes
time
to
order
and
procure
the
equipment
there.
I'm
not
aware
that
the
the
hvc
and
those
two
specific
bridges
is
out,
but
just
for
clarification,
the
city
owns
and
is
responsible
for
the
maintenance
of
the
bridges,
which
is
the
piece
that
goes
over
the
public
right-of-way.
V
V
Yep
and
so
that's
what
we
bought
for,
and
I
received
an
email
from
you,
councilman
gato
today
and
and
so
I've
been
working
on
the
response
for,
for
that,
there's
a
whole
list
of
of
repairs,
and
so
that
that
is.
That
is
a
challenge.
So
we
are
working.
We've
been
started
as
of
july.
We
started
doing
quarterly
assessments
as
the
city.
V
It
used
to
be
that
the
site,
the
skywalk
association
kind
of
tried
to
police
themselves
and
and
push
the
private
entities
to
to
do
those
repairs
that
obviously
hasn't
been
working
so
that
so
we're
trying
to
step
in
as
the
city.
The
challenge
we
have
to
be
honest
is
is
what
is
the
enforcement
rules
and
policies?
You
know
it's
not
like.
We
have
a
a
policy
and
rules
and
set
like
we
do
for
other
ended
things
like
sidewalks,
where
you
could
say.
V
Well,
if
you
have
a
defective
sidewalk
that
you're
responsible
for
you
have
to
repair
it
within
three
to
six
months.
We
don't
have
those
restrictive
timelines
for
the
skywalk
that
that
I'm
aware
of
so
we're
trying
to
just
work
with
the
property
owners
and
I'm
I'm
sending
a
whole
list
of
of
responses
to
your
email
on
the
different
properties.
We've
been
working
with
trying
to
get
so.
H
H
Well,
maybe
we
should
come
back
and
take
a
look
at
our
policy
for
the
entire
skywalk
system.
Then,
if
that's
the
case,
because
if,
if
I
have
a
list
of
seven
of
them,
each
of
them
with
five
or
six
different
things
wrong
with
them
at
at
a
minimum,
and
we
have
no
no
way
if
this
is
a
private
person
to
take
care
of
any
of
this
stuff.
And
a
lot
of
it
is
it's-
the
hvac
is
broken
in
there
didn't
why?
Why
do
we
even
have
them
that
doesn't
make
much
sense.
H
We
are
responsible,
though
steve
it
is
our
city,
I
mean
we,
it
makes
us
look
bad,
no
matter
if
we
have
a
hundred
different
agreements
with
them.
Ultimately,
the
perception
is,
the
seven
of
us
are
ultimately
is
where
the
buck
stops.
So
we
are
getting
these
emails
saying.
What
are
you
going
to
do
about
it,
and
but
I'm
going
to
answer
them
that
we
don't
really
have
any
enforcement.
So
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
those
policies
and
let's
try
to
get
it
figured
out,
but.
R
F
R
One
way,
if
they
don't
want
to
do
it,
they
could
give
us
notice
that
they're
going
to
close
their
portion
of
the
skywalk
and
that
that
has
I
mean
we've
had
that
happen.
Just
in
the
last
few
years,
where
a
business
or
two
have
decided,
they
don't
want
to
participate
in
the
skywalk
program
and
close
their
building.
U
Q
H
Yeah,
I
think,
there's
enough
folks
that
you
know
with
the
downtown
partnership
and
business
community
that
I
I
think
we
need
to
probably
come
to
a
better
agreement
than
yes
a
heavy
hand.
Saying
you
either
do
this
and
they
say
well,
no,
I'm
just
going
to
close
my
skywalk.
Then
that
would
be
very
sad
at
best.
I
guess
that's
the
best
words
I
can
say
about
it.
F
F
C
Public
improvements
six
is
under
so
ordering
construction
of
pennsylvania,
avenue
reconstruction
from
north
of
east
university
avenue
to
east
washington,
avenue
receiving
a
bids
december
7th
of
21
and
setting
our
data
hearing
of
january
10
of
22.
The
engineers
estimate
for
this
work
is
one
million
six
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
council
communication
number
21-496.
H
Q
Well,
joe,
I
can
add
to
it:
we
had
the
floods
of
2018
and
the
water
just
poured
right
through
the
hyvee
there
at
harding
hills-
and
we
came
back.
All
they
want
to
do
is
get
the
place
back
in
business,
and
we
came
back
with
the
same
thing.
They
wanted
to
have
islands
in
there.
They
they
found
that
some
of
the
concrete
was
just
a
little
bit
off
and
they
had
to
make
it
all
ada
compliant
and
everything
is
starting
to
go.
Add
up.
We
just
about
derailed
the
whole
project.
O
O
B
C
C
All
right
this
takes
us
now,
I
think,
to
27
I,
which
is
approving
and
council
member
gato,
pulled
this
one
as
well
an
exception
to
the
procurement
ordinance
for
proposals
processed
for
good
cause
and
approving
an
amendment
to
extend
the
contract
with
permar
security
services
for
on-site
security
services.
Council
communication
number
21-505,
councilmember,
gatta,.
H
H
Are
we
looking
at
greeters
that
are
just
going
to
give
information
as
people
come
in
and
they're
just
eyes
on
the
door,
and
I've
had
conversations
with
scott
earlier
today
and-
and
I
just
I,
if
we're
going
to
spend
150
000
for,
for
you,
know
a
third
party
and
then
we're
gonna
go
train
other
individuals,
I
don't
even
I
don't
understand
what
we're
doing.
I
know
we
got
rid
of
conley.
H
That
was
probably
one
of
the
better
things
that
we've
done,
but
I
I
need
to
know
where,
where
we're
going
with
this
and
what
what
is
our
intention
and
what
type
of
problems
have
we
had
to
to
spur
this?
I
know
we've
got
a
lot
more
security
than
eight
years
ago
when
I
walked
through
this
building.
The
first
time
I
mean
you
can't
get
into
a
lot
of
folks
office.
H
O
O
So
there
there's
every
opportunity
to
sit
down
with
you
and
and
talk
through
all
of
you
what
what
those
options
are
and
where
we're
headed
the
intent
was
really
to
mirror
what
we've
seen
the
last
several
months
with
city
staff,
and
that
is,
as
you
might
imagine,
value
in
two
fronts.
It's
managing
the
doors
that
are
open
to
the
public
for
which
we
do
have
full
access
up
here
with
engineering
staff
with
concerns
once
once
they
are
let
in
through
the
door.
So
we
we've.
H
I
I
think
we
we
definitely
need
to
sit
down
and
have
a
have
a
conversation,
whether
it's
you
know
a
workshop
or
whether
it's
it's
privately
with
two
or
three
of
us,
because
I
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
what
we're
looking
for.
I
know
the
county
when
you
walk
into
a
county
building
to
pay
your
taxes
or
get
that
you
know
they
do
have
polk
county
sheriff
sitting
there,
my
understanding,
they're,
retired,
they're,
retired
officers,
or
something
like
that.
You
know
I
I
mean.
H
H
C
Okay,
well,
I
I
think
that
we
could
define
it.
Maybe
and
let's
talk
about
that
scott,
I
think
some
of
us
who
have
been
in
county
buildings
lately,
it's
like
going
through
tsa
just
to
get
in
there
and
you
know
I'm
not
sure
how
far
into
that
we
want
to
go.
We've
got
you
know,
obviously
a
detector
here,
but
you
know
we're
not
doing
the
full
wanding
and
everything
else
that
in
some
of
the
buildings
polk
county
is
using
so.
G
Forward
to
it
clarification,
I
thought
what
we
were
talking
about
tonight
was
just
to
continue
on
with
premar.
That's
what
it's
going
to
cost
us
to
have
permar,
just
until
we
had
that
discussion
about
what
we
wanted
to
do,
and
it
was
my
understanding
that
we
were
looking
at
hiring
our
own
staff,
but
they
have
to
go
through
civil
service
there
and
that
takes
a
while.
So.
G
H
H
G
H
J
F
H
H
I
don't
know
what,
where
we're
going
with
this,
and
so
for
me
to
vote
for
something
that
I
don't
have
all
of
the
details.
It's
problematic
and
I
just
I
refuse
to
do
that.
So
if
we
want
to
vote
to
to
keep
them
here
until
may
9th,
but
I
would
like
to
see:
is
it
more
cost
effective
just
to
have
them
to
be
here,
a
third
party
because
are
they
going
to
be
liable
when
something
happens,
because
when
we
hire
somebody
and
something
happens,
mr
lester-
we're
going
to
be
liable
for
it
correct
correct?
R
R
R
H
C
O
C
C
C
C
Q
Q
You
know
so
people
look
at
you
and
say:
fifteen
bucks
is
cheap,
so
and
and
then
there
was
confusion
in
dispatch
whether
it
was
an
offense
or
not.
So
this
this
lays
it
out
puts
a
a
good
bite
of
a
fine
in
there,
and
you
know
we'll
keep
our
streets
in
good
working
order,
we'll
have
to
semis
tearing
them
up
and
leaving
them
overnight,
creating
obstructions
on
the
side
of
getting
around
him
as
well.
So
have
a
little
happy
move
item,
41.
Q
C
Item
42
submitting
sections
90-1
90-2-90-35
article
3
90-61-90-62
and
adding
section
90-4
relating
to
approval
of
procurement
and
emergency
procurement
for
municipal
housing
agency.
A
is
the
final
consideration.
The
ordinance
above
the
waiver
is
requested
by
chris
johansen,
the
neighborhood
services
department
director
and
requires
six
votes.
I
O
Councilman,
I
totally
understand
the
concern
the
500
000
was
meant
to
be
able
to
handle
the
property
that
the
city
owns
for
affordable
housing
to
be
able
to
handle
repairs
of
the
existing
without
adding
units
and
oftentimes.
We
are
now
seeing
hvac
exterior
window
replacements
that
are
in
excess
of
100
or
even
200
000.
O
So
there
is
somewhat
of
a
an
arbitrary
amount
at
the
500
000
level,
but
I
would
urge
strongly
that
the
amounts
stay
above
at
least
250
000,
because
we
would
see
quite
a
bit
of
those
types
of
repairs,
their
routine
for
the
housing
service
board,
to
address
and
to
put
forward
for
repairs
and
replacement,
and
so
anything
between
that
250
and
500
would
be
helpful.
To
set
a
cap.
F
F
C
R
R
C
I
B
Well,
I
would
be
happy
to
move
item
43
and
43a
and
pursuant
to
rule
42a
move
to
wave
the
second
and
third
reading.
I
want
to
thank
council
member
voss.
I
mean
this
is
another
piece
towards
moving
improving
public
safety
on
these
roads,
and
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
move
dsm
helps
provide
us
really
helpful
guidance
in
terms
of
how
we
make
these
roads
safer.
B
For
for
all
users,
the
road
design
is
a
piece
of
that,
but
the
getting
the
right
speed
limit
once
the
the
road
has
been
redesigned
is,
is
another
piece
of
that
and
so
happy
that
we're
getting
this
change-
and
I
know
council
member
boss
did
a
lot
to
just
keep
this
on
our
radar
and
keep
it
moving.
So
appreciate
that
as
well.
C
F
F
C
C
N
H
I
appreciate
all
the
hard
work
that
the
human
and
civil
rights
commission
has
done
through
this.
I
know
losing
joshua
and
menisha
stepped
in
and
and
did
a
fantastic
job.
So
I
appreciate
all
the
hard
work
that
all
of
them
have
done:
they're
all
volunteers
and
they've
all
given
their
time
and
did
a
good
job.
O
F
C
H
F
C
Please
keep
your
own
time
because
at
the
end
of
the
two
minutes
the
clerk
will
announce
time.
Then
the
speaker's
mic
will
be
closed
and
we'll
move
immediately
to
the
next
speaker,
and
we
appreciate
your
comments
and
we
want
to
encourage
all
of
our
residents
to
be
respectful
of
the
others
viewpoints
that
are
maybe
different
from
their
own.
X
X
Thank
you
for
calling
us
a
vocal
minority
and
just
assuming
that
some
silent
majority
was
on
your
side.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that
as
well
to
my
former
city
council
member
bill
gray,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
not
seeing
my
sister
indira's
campaign,
our
people's
campaign
against
you
as
a
threat
and
losing
so
spectacularly
that
I
never
have
to
address
you
as
my
city
councilor
again.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
and
then
for
having
me
arrested
for
trespassing
in
the
city
council
meeting.
X
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
that
so
much
and
then
to
scott
sanders
and
mayor
frank
county
specifically.
I
really
just
wanted
to
thank
you
personally
for
coming
to
my
trial
today,
just
to
make
sure
that
you
can
enforce
your
fascist
rules
by
making
me
pay
a
300
fine.
I
just
want
to
thank
you.
So
much
for
showing
up
for
that.
So
thanks.
Y
So
just
pat
yourselves
on
the
back
for
that
that
is
ableist,
but
you
guys
have
proven
time
and
time
again
that
you
are
ableist.
We
see
that
public
comment.
We
see
that
in
the
fact
that
large
print
agendas
are
not
readily
available
and
when
they
are
rejected,
I
saw
firsthand
this
afternoon.
They
are
not
provided.
So
where
else
should
I
go?
Y
N
The
cultural
competency
training
that
was
approved
tonight
for
the
council,
members
boards
and
commissions
appears
to
be
a
one-time
only
thing.
I
recommend
that
that
should
be
annual
and
that
a
department
is
responsible
for
tracking
compliance.
It
doesn't
appear
in
the
ordinance
that
it
will
be
tracked.
U
My
name
is
adam
callanan.
I
see
him
pronouns
50309
in
word
three,
a
few
different
things.
First
off
we
really
need
a
virtual
option.
We
are
still
in
a
pandemic
and
it's
a
huge
accessibility
issue.
Other
towns
and
other
counties
and
whatnot
have
provided
that
it's
definitely
feasible.
It's
definitely
something
that
council
should
be
looking
into
and
also
we
can
see
like
today.
Councilmember
bozen
is
virtual
and
it's
weird.
U
U
I'd
love
to
see
anything
like
that,
but
for
residents
or
people
that
are
just
not
developers.
We've
seen
nothing
like
that
since
2020
and
there's
been
some
community
meetings,
but
nothing
that's
really
a
town
hall
or
roundtable
specifically
for
residents
or
renters,
or
anything
like
that.
So
it
was
unfortunate
to
see
the
developers
get
that
something
that
actually
councilman
rogato
brought
up
27i
being
on
the
agenda
and
specifically
on
the
consensus
end.
U
It
was
very
weird
because
that
means
our
city
manager
is
putting
items
that
are
controversial
even
within
the
council,
on
the
consent.
That
council
doesn't
even
really
know
about
reiterates
what
we're
saying
that
things
are
putting
on
the
being
put
on
the
consent
agenda
that
just
do
not
belong
there
at
all.
It's
a
very
frequent
thing:
yeah,
that's
150,
000
for
private
security
being
put
on
the
consent
agenda
and
an
exemption
to
the
proposal.
U
There's
usually
a
proposal
process,
that's
also
being
canceled,
and
that
really
scares
me
because
the
same
thing
was
done
for
conley
in
the
first
place,
and
we
know
how
that
went.
I
don't
know
much
about
permar,
but
I
would
sure
hope
that
if
members
of
public
have
concerns,
they
can
talk
about
them
at
the
meetings
that
we
don't
enter
into
a
contract
like
did
with
conley.
U
It
just
seems
like
the
city
and
specifically
scott
sanders,
apparently
because
the
rest
of
the
council
doesn't
seem
to
really
know
what's
going
on
is
afraid
of
the
residents
and
having
this
private
security.
It's
just
really
weird
and
really
uncomfortable
being
a
resident,
and,
seeing
that
happen
also
the
trials
as
mentioned
peyton's
trial
was
today,
there's
been
over
80
trials
lost
in
kurt
towards
the
side
of
the
protest.
The
first
one
and.
F
L
L
The
police
in
this
town
have
cost
all
of
us
a
lot
of
money
in
the
last
well,
whatever
period
you
want
to
take
too
much
money
in
undue
arrests
and
undue
brutality.
Undue
harassment,
the
dm
the
des
moines
police
department
has
refused
to
meet
with
many
members
of
the
community.
Who've
asked
to
meet
the
city
manager
hasn't
made
that
much
hasn't
made
that
very
easy.
L
L
L
L
K
But
it
was
disconnected
to
the
grub
y.
I
believe
on
purpose
and
a
lot
of
people
that
live
directly
across
the
street
from
the
grub
y
did
not
recognize
the
near
north
side
center
as
a
new
rec
center
and
a
project
in
their
community.
So
there
was
a
lack
of
information
provided
to
the
the
community
and
when
you
ask
about
it,
the
first
thing
I
hear
from
council
members
is
how
expensive
it
is
to
build
a
pool
and
a
rec
center
in
my
community.
K
But
I
need
you
guys
to
understand
that.
There's
an
expense
attached
to
my
community
every
time
we
have
to
leave
it
to
get
resources,
and
this
is
the
same
council
that
gave
wesley
anchors
acres
an
easement
to
build
an
indoor
swimming
pool
at
the
chagrin
of
their
neighbors,
because
it
gave
the
seniors
in
their
community
walkability
and
you
guys
agreed
how
important
indoor
services
were
for
the
seniors
in
south
of
grand.
K
So
I
want
you
to
be
that
excited
when
you
put
all
that
effort
into
making
sure
that
our
commit
community
has
an
indoor
swimming
pool.
I
was
told
by
one
council
member
connie
to
use
north
high.
I
called
north
high
to
make
an
appointment.
They
are
not
seeing
the
public
that's
off
the
off
the
off
the
records.
W
Jeff
franklin
1063
of
40th
street.
If
I
go
over
like
30
seconds,
please
allow
it.
This
is
my
fifth
time
here
and
I'd
like
to
kind
of
be
done
tonight.
As
previously
mentioned,
this
perpetrator,
robert
franklin,
is
able
to
hack
into
any
device
just
this
past
week
he
was
able
to
hack
into
the
des
moines
public
school
district
and
change
my
id
number
to
that
of
another
person.
W
I'm
also
providing
proof
to
the
council
of
this
hacking
to
my
urbandale
school
email.
We
really
need
help
here.
All
the
suburbs
have
cyber
crime.
I
really
want
you
guys
to
vote
funding
for
the
des
moines
police
department
to
establish
a
cyber
crime
unit.
On
another
note,
I
want
to
thank
the
council
for
the
work
you've
done
regarding
the
social
profiling
issue
due
to
our
local
group
of
community
organizers,
listening
to
our
black
citizens
and
the
needs
they
brought
forth
regarding
being
socially
profiled.
W
My
hope
is
that
the
council
will
continue
to
move
forward
to
post
signs.
That
excuse
me
every
place
of
a
private
business
within
the
city
of
des
moines.
These
signs
need
to
direct
anyone
who
feels
they
may
have
been
socially
profiled
in
any
way,
including,
but
not
limited
to
skin,
color
culture
and
faith
and
the
steps
to
take
of
how
to
file
a
report
with
the
police.
Regarding
this,
however,
the
person
filing
the
report
needs
to
be
thoroughly
background,
checked
due
to
so
many
refugees
in
the
city
to
establish.
W
They
are
not
aligned
with
the
foreign
government
seeking
to
undermine
the
us
government
or
from
a
political
party
that
does
not
support
democracy
and
our
freedoms.
I
believe
that
this
needs
to
most
definitely
become
a
city
ordinance
and
that
violation
of
it,
after
positive
proof,
has
been
established,
become
a
felony.
We
believe
much
of
the
social
profiling
specifically
affecting
black
citizens.
F
C
P
Four
of
the
seven
who
are
expired
are
not
eligible
for
reappointment
just
yet,
and
so
I'm
going
to
be
sending
around
via
email
at
chart.
That
shows
where
the
where
the
problems
lie.
Also,
in
addition
to
just
kind
of
open
slots
and
expire
terms,
we
have
folks
who
have
managed
to
miss
four
meetings
this
year
and
we've
only
had
six
due
to
not
having
plans
or
other
reasons,
but
they've
managed
to
miss
four
of
six
meetings,
even
though
they
were
all
zoom
meetings.
P
So
I
would
appreciate,
if
you
would,
when
you
I'll,
send
these
tomorrow
when
you
get
my
email,
please
read
this
and
and
start
assigning
folks
to
these
to
these
seats.
We
take
our
job
really
really
seriously
and
we're
sometimes
made
to
feel
as
though
we're
not
taken
seriously
by
the
city,
so
I
hope
that
we'll
see
some
action
toward
filling
these
seats.
I
just
want
to
add
that
the
ada
is
not
an
added
burden.
Lots
of
shoppers
at
the
harding
hill
hyvee
are
people
with
disabilities
and
they
use
specifically
used
wheelchairs.