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From YouTube: 05-18-23 Plan & Zoning Commission
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Des Moines Plan & Zoning Commission meeting on Thursday, May 18, 2023.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/PZatHome
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The
plan
and
Zoning
commission
is
generally
an
advisory
body
to
the
city
council.
The
city
council
will
hold
a
public
hearing
and
make
the
final
decision
on
all
matters
before
the
commission
other
than
site
plans
and
subdivision
Flats.
Unless
denials
or
conditional
approvals
thereof
are
appealed.
Please
contact
the
city,
clerk
or
development
services
department
staff
for
details
on
Council
hearings.
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S
stain
thank
you
now,
I
will
read
through
the
consent.
Items
on
consent
is
a
request
from
a
HEPA
represented
by
Steve
Beck
for
review
and
approval
of
a
public
hearing
site
plan
Amendment
for
property
located
at
1111
East
Army
Post
Road
for
a
type
2
design
alternative
to
waive
the
requirement
to
have
a
principal
entrance
on
a
primary
Frontage
facade.
Are
there
any
persons
in
the
audience
tonight
who
would
like
this
removed
off
the
public
or
off
of
the
consent
agenda
on
into
public
hearing?
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Oh
I'm,
sorry
number
five
continue
also
number
five:
we
have
a
request
to
continue
item
number
five:
a
request
from
Des
Moines
industrial
land,
LLC
represented
by
Gabe
Claypool
for
review
and
approval
of
the
public
hearing
site
plan,
Amendment
dsmi
transload
facility
for
property
located
at
357
Southeast
15th
Street
for
design
all
type
2
design,
Alternatives
a
through
D.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
this
to
remain
in
public
hearing
for
tonight?
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Thank
you,
madam
chair
suryashi,
chakraborty
planning
staff.
The
item
before
you
is
a
rezoning
request
for
a
couple
Parcels
in
the
vicinity
of
1803
County
Line
Road.
As
Madam
chair
mentioned,
the
proposal
is
to
rezone
the
property
from
ex
mixed-use
District
to
multiple
districts,
which
includes
MX3,
mx1,
P2,
limited
i1
and
nx2
neighborhood
mix
District
the
applicant
for
this
project,
and
this
rezoning
proposal
is
proposing
a
large-scale
multi-use
project
which
is
requiring
the
rezoning
of
the
subject
property.
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The
the
development
is
proposed
to
cater
to
the
needs
and
serve
the
residents
of
Harvest
Academy,
which
is
a
rehabilitative
Workforce
Development
program.
The
applicant
has
provided
us
a
concept
plan
which
I
will
share
with
you
here
in
a
minute.
Moving
on
this
is
the
vicinity
map
of
the
area.
It's
at
the
intersection,
the
of
fluid
drive
and
County
Line
Road
south
of
the
airport.
As
you
can
see,
this
area
is
consists
of
largely
undeveloped,
as
well
as
some
light
industrial
uses
in
the
vicinity.
This
is
the
subject:
property.
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Here's
the
two
Parcels
shaded
right
here.
I
have
a
couple
pictures
here:
it's
undeveloped,
Land,
This,
Is,
A,
View
From
floor
drive.
This
is
looking
from
County
Line
Road,
with
that
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
rezoning
concept
as
well
as
the
development
concept.
This
is
the
rezoning
proposal
and
you
can
see
in
the
layout
here
the
various
districts
fronting
floor.
Drive
is
MX3,
District
proposed
a
long
floor.
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Drive
adjacent
to
this
is
a
P2
and
The
Limited
i1
following
that
is
the
mx1
district
and
then
finally,
this
area
to
the
east
is
nx2.
So
the
the
reason,
the
reason
behind
the
various
zoning
districts
is
due
to
the
fact
that
a
variety
of
different
users
are
proposed
and
those
are
laid
out
in
a
large-scale
concept
plan
that
was
submitted
with
the
application.
I
will
point
out
that
this
this
is
not
finalized.
This
is
just
a
concept
plan
at
at
the
moment.
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If
you
can
follow
my
cursor,
this
will
be
the
limited
i1
industrial
area,
which
will
include
a
moving
company
to
the
north,
is
a
Rec
Center
following
that,
as
you
move
further
east
there's
a
few
other
transitioner
users
proposed
some
mixed
use,
as
well
as
some
Recreation
private
Recreation
type
users
to
the
to
further
east
is
the
residential
area
there
is.
There
are
some
Town
Homes
proposed
right
here,
as
well
as
some
potentially
some
multi-family
as
well?
There
are
a
few
accesses
proposed.
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So
with
that,
this
staff
believes
that
the
The
Proposal
that
the
applicant
has
come
up
with
here
fits
with
the
generally
with
what,
with
the
concept
that
they're
trying
to
come
up
with
and
the
concept
is
a
self
contained
Community
serving
a
specific
population
and
their
needs,
an
area
where
they
can
live.
They
can
work
and
they
have
recreational
opportunities
as
well.
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The
the
applicant
conducted
a
neighborhood
meeting,
which
is
required
as
part
of
the
rezoning
process,
and
here
is
a
summary
of
of
of
the
meeting
the
attendance
and
some
of
the
the
topics
that
were
discussed
at
the
meetings.
I,
don't
think
there
were
any
major
concerns
that
were
brought
up
at
the
meeting,
just
mostly
sharing
of
information
to
the
to
the
attendees,
but
the
applicant
is
here
and
they
can
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
their
discussions
at
the
at
the
neighborhood
meeting.
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Thank
you
chair
and
members
of
the
commission.
My
name
is
Matt
Cohen,
with
RDG
planning
and
design
301
Grand
Avenue
representing
the
applicant,
as
well
as
the
future
user
of
the
site
in
Harvest
Academy
representing
a
number
of
folks
here
who
are
our
guests
as
well?
So
we
have,
we
could
answer
any
questions
regarding
the
project
and
I'll
I'll
yield
the
10
minutes
to
address
any
questions
specifically
from
your
review
of
the
project
today.
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I
was
I
was
just
going
to
expand
on
that
as
well.
If
you
could
pull
up
the
the
overall
site
plan
as
well,
the
overall
site
would
not
be
limited
to
the
Harvest
Academy
students,
so
the
the
homes
around
that
Community
Park
would
be
residents
for
the
students.
However,
the
mixed
juice
building
towards
the
center
of
the
site,
with
the
gym
and
in
the
mixed
use.
Those
would
also
have
apartments
available
in
the
long
run
and
then,
as
well
as
a
Long,
County
Line.
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K
So
the
segregation
kind
of
out
of
you
know
not
by
requirement
but
just
kind
of
where
we're
at
right.
Now
we
absolutely
look
to
get
these
guys
back
into
the
communities
at
some
point,
but
while
they're
in
the
program,
we
do
like
the
concept
and
the
idea
of
having
them.
You
know,
as
kind
of
their
own
mini
Community
within.
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Okay,
so
it
would
first
be
the
we
would
get
one
you
know,
building
to
accommodate
students.
We
would
have
that
Community
Center,
which
would
be
kind
of
like,
like
a
dining
Kitchen
open
area,
for
you
know
just
to
get
to
get
people
together
as
far
as
our
student
culture
and
then
yeah
our
moving
company,
okay,
yeah,
probably
in
that
order
as
well.
Okay,.
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K
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K
We
are,
you
know,
we're
doing
fundraising
right
now
as
we
speak,
but
we
fully
and
we
we
have
a
proper
term.
We
have
donations
and
fundraising.
We
have
the
money
lined
up
to
complete
our
first
phase,
which
would
be
best
student
housing,
the
community
center
and
then
the
moving
company
and
then
we're
going
to
continue.
We
understand
this
is
going
to
be.
You
know
this
isn't
going
to
be
built
in
a
year
or
two.
We
understand
this
is
going
to
be
a
long.
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It's
we've
expanded
the
right
of
way,
so
we
have
pushed
the
buildings
a
little
bit
further
north
to
anticipate
changes
to
a
county
line
Road
in
the
future
and
similarly
with
Fleur,
we've
worked
closely
with
staff.
In
fact,
we've
moved
the
buildings
forward
towards
floor
a
little
bit
working
with
staff
on
that
and.
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B
G
I
just
request
that
every
accommodation
be
made
to
work
with
dart
and
their
planners
to
make
sure
that
Transit,
even
though
it's
not
there
today,
the
success
of
projects
like
this
will
rely
on
transportation
and
knowing
it's
the
end
of
probably
their
line
for
a
while
work
with
them
for
stops,
or
maybe
a
turnaround
within
your
site.
So
thank
you.
B
B
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
Moving
on
to
item
number
three,
a
request
from
Locust
Center
represented
by
bruce
grillman
for
review
and
approval
of
a
public
hearing
site
plan,
Jethro's
downtown
for
property
at
221,
Park
Street
for
a
denied
type.
One
design
alternative
to
waive
the
require
requirement
to
provide
the
Black,
Banner
style,
LED
street
light
fixtures
that
are
required
to
be
installed
with
all
site
plans
within
the
downtown
area
and
Nick
from
staff
will
present.
L
Thanks
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
Nick
tarpey
planning
staff,
something
that
I
just
want
to
iterate
and
we'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
this
applicant.
They
already
have
an
approved
site
plan,
so
this
is
something
that
was
submitted
last
year.
They
worked
with
us.
It
was
an
administrative
process.
We
got
an
approved
site
plan
for
them.
They
have
since
come
back
to
staff,
and
now
the
commission
they'd
like
to
waive
the
requirement
to
install
that
downtown
style
light
fixture.
So
we'll
dig
into
that.
L
So
this
building,
you
might
have
seen
it
if
you're
downtown
they've,
been
doing
a
little
bit
of
work
on
it.
So
it's
this
site
here
at
the
corner
of
third
and
park.
We
got
Iowa
Events,
Center,
Wells
Fargo,
that's
here.
Up
to
the
north
got
Second
Ave
got
the
riverfront
skate
park
and
things
like
that.
Women
of
achievement
bridge
that
are
over
here,
where
my
cursor
is
hovering
so
Northern
edge
of
downtown
is
the
context
that
we're
thinking
about
here.
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So
here's
just
some
conceptual
elevations.
We
can
go
back
to
those
if
you
want
here's
the
existing
light
pole,
so
this
photo
was
taken
a
few
days
ago.
It's
got
It's
like
a
what
you
would
call
a
steel
or
a
galvanized
style.
Poles,
it's
a
little
bit
older
and
we
do
have
these
in
a
lot
of
parts
of
the
city.
But
this
is
what
exists
today.
L
The
city
requirement
would
be
to
replace
it
as
part
of
the
site
plan
improvements
with
this
pole,
that's
across
the
street,
so
this
is
at
the
Iowa
Events
Center
complex,
really
similar,
technically
in
terms
of
how
it
emits
light.
How
bright
it
is
things
like
that
it
is
a
different
color
and
it
does
have
these
Banner
arms
here
for
banners
to
be
hung
for
civic
events.
L
The
city
would
hang
banners
Des,
Moines
partnership,
other
types
of
organizations
like
that,
so
that's
a
city
requirement
for
all
site
plans
within
the
downtown,
so
digging
into
the
staff
report
here:
staff
as
we
analyze
the
requests
generally
just
to
even
back
up
a
little
bit
farther
the
black
poll
requirement
in
the
downtown
area.
That's
been
something
that
the
city
has
done.
L
So
when
a
lot
of
the
city
Improvement
projects
doing
streetscape,
CIP
related
projects,
the
city
has
installed
those
black
light
fixtures
as
part
of
those
city-wide
city
city,
initiated
initiatives
and
then
also
as
part
of
site
plan
site
development,
Redevelopment
new
development
downtown
something
that's
been
required
for
now.
Decades
has
been
to
replace
any
light
fixtures
on
site
that
are
those
residual
either
wooden
or
those
steel
galvanized
pole
with
those
black
holes
as
staff.
We
understand
financially.
That
is
an
extra
requirement.
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L
This
is
downtown.
This
is
that
context,
that's
the
economic,
that's
the
cultural,
that's
the
Social,
Hub
of
of
the
state
really
honestly,
and
so
generally,
for
all
those
reasons
as
staff.
In
addition
to
that
being
a
requirement
in
the
ordinance
as
staff
looking
back
to
playing
DSM
and
looking
at
the
context
in
the
environment,
we're
trying
to
create
downtown,
we
don't
support
the
request.
So
that's
really.
The
Crux
of
the
report
I'll
be
happy
to
take
any
questions
about
that
or
anything.
L
So
we
have
a
couple
building
permits
in
right
now,
the
building
the
building
permit
value
is
about
870,
000,
give
or
take,
and
those
are
estimates
based
on
the
construction.
We
have
received
an
estimate
that
was
forwarded
to
us
from
an
American
that
was
about
30
to
36
thousand
dollars,
and
that
was
a
really
high
level
estimate
and
that
would
be
for
the
installation
of
the
new
pool.
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E
Think
I
think
it
the
way
I
describe
it
is
it's
I
create
an
identity,
a
district,
the
downtown's,
a
district
with
common
identity
and
the
street
light.
Pole
is
one
way
or
part
of
many
ways
that
that's
achieving
you've
done
it's
something
as
Nick
noted
that
we've
been
asking
for
insight
plans
for
a
very
long
time.
So
this
isn't
something
that's
new
to
this
code.
L
Streetscape
elements
so
what
we
would
call
like
a
Class
A
sidewalk,
so
as
opposed
just
leaving
a
five
foot
wall,
something
as
part
of
all
Downtown
Development,
a
six
foot
wide
walk
with
the
five
by
fifteen
foot,
planer
beds,
so
trees
within
beds,
okay
and
then
from
back
of
the
curb
through
the
the
sidewalk
at
the
end
of
the
right
away,
would
be
a
Hardscape
surface.
Okay,
so
that
that's
another
element
too
streetscaping
too
correct
furnishings
and
things
like
that.
Would
that
would
all
be
required.
Downtown.
Okay,.
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Yeah
yeah,
that's
a
good
point,
so
they
basically
yes
so
kind
of
through
the
process.
It's
something
that
the
applicant
and
I
have
discussed.
You
know
dating
all
the
way
back
even
to
the
pre-application
meeting,
it's
one
of
those
things
where
they
we're
going
to
comply
with
that
they
have
an
approved
site
plan.
I.
Think
they've
got
further
along
in
the
process
and
they've
decided
to
appeal
that
requirement.
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O
O
O
O
The
only
poles
that
are
painted
black
are
the
poles
that
go
north
on
Third
Street
and
that
was
all
developed
by
Wells,
Fargo,
Arena
and
HyVee
Hall,
so
that
poll
that
you're
looking
at
the
light
fixture
is
identical
to
the
black
poles
that
that
are
ink
Appliance.
The
only
difference
between
that
Poland
and
those
poles
is
it's
galvanized
and
I
just
want
to
paint
it
black.
B
O
B
O
P
B
C
Like
sidewalks
I
mean
you
have
to
start
somewhere
and
right,
we've
started
somewhere
right
next
to
you
and
that's
growing,
going
down
into
the
city
to
make
sure
we
get
uniformity
throughout
the
entire
District.
It's
in
the
ordinance,
it's
very,
very
clear,
you're,
saying:
there's
seven
aren't
in
compliance.
How
many
polls
would
there
need
to
be
in
order
for
you
to
say?
Well,
you
know
what
that's
fair,
I'm
cool
with
this.
O
O
Buzzard
Billy's
in
that
property
is
not
going
anywhere.
The
zlr
ignition
the
jester
building
over
there
isn't
going
anywhere
nothing's
going
to
happen
there
for
five
years.
I
can
guarantee
you
that
so
I
I
would
be
willing
to
do
it
at
some
point
in
the
future,
when
whatever
criteria
you'd
want
to
hold
me
to.
E
I
did
want
to
share
maybe
in
bruising
comment
if
he
wants,
but
we
actually
just
had
a
pre-app
for
the
buzzer
Billy
site
they're.
Looking
to
do
some
improvements,
they'll
be
going
through
the
site
plan
process.
If
they
move
forward
with
that
project,
so
we
might
actually
be
happy
and
changes
on
the
property
to
the
south
in
the
near
term.
Project
may
not
move
forward.
You
know
that's
the
nature
of
these
kinds
of
things,
but
it
is.
F
E
O
B
B
C
We've
had
situations
in
the
past,
we
could
theoretically
escrow
the
money.
Is
that
something
now
granted
cities
escrow
process
seems
a
little
inverted.
It
seems
like
it'd,
be
more
expensive
escrow
than
not.
Does
it
make
sense
to
provide
that
as
an
option?
Here
we
can
just
say:
well,
you
can
either
put
this
in
or
you
can
spend
more
money
in
escrow.
This
thing.
E
B
E
G
B
B
F
M
E
M
B
C
N
C
If
you
paint
it,
you
have
a
maintenance
issue
with
painting
it,
because
then
we
just
sort
of
have
this
thing,
that's
sort
of
flaking.
We
have
to
keep
repeating
it,
which
has
got
to
be
on
the
back
side.
It's
not
like
the
paint
lasts
forever
right.
We
still
don't
have
the
banner,
which
is
part
of
the
actual
purpose
of
the
place
making
anyway,
which
is
uniformity
of
that
Banner
throughout.
C
So
I
guess,
I
see
challenges
with
this
actually
meeting
the
intent
of
what
we're
looking
for
with
this
requirement.
If
we
don't
replace
it
because
you
know
the
only
other
thing
we
have
within
our
power,
because
I
think
we
said
we
do
that
in
Sherman
Hill
with
lights,
we
also
do
escrows
with
sidewalks
as
well,
where
we
actually
know
there's
going
to
be
something
else.
C
We've
already
said
that
hey,
if
it's
a
50
I
mean
right
now
we're
dead,
even
if
he
replaces
this
pole
as
per
ordinance,
which
is
the
ordinance
the
understood
existed
at
the
time
that
we
started
this
project.
This
isn't
something
where
it's
overlapped
over
an
old
something
old
here
right
as
soon
as
we
have
at
least
one
other
poll
taken
out,
we're
well
over
50
50,
which
he
agreed
to.
If
he
puts
the
stuff
in
we're
over
50
already.
C
E
I
B
L
L
So
we'll
come
back
to
that
and
then
part
e
kind
of
stands
on
its
own.
It's
just
about
the
height,
so
I'll
try
to
segment
those
in
the
presentation,
but
just
wanted
to
say
that
off
the
top
here,
so
here's
the
existing
site,
we're
located
about
a
quarter
mile
south
of
I-235
here
in
the
upper
part
of
East
Village,
we're
about
we're
a
block
North
of
the
intersection,
E6
and
Graham
kind
of
a
an
edge
condition
right
now.
L
So
a
mix
of
some
commercial
uses
some
medium
density
residential
uses
and
then,
as
you
go
south
and
then,
as
you
go
to
the
West,
it
gets
a
little
bit
more
dense,
residentially
a
little
bit
more
dense
commercially,
so
dig
into
the
site
plane.
Here
generally,
the
building
is
shaped
as
a!
U
so
it's
it
really
has
these.
What
I
would
call
anchors
kind
of
here
on
on
the
southwest
corner,
as
well
as
the
southeast
corner
and
then
at
use,
and
then
there's
an
internal
Courtyard
here?
L
L
This
is
that
Southeast
corner,
so
the
lower
level
here
would
be
a
commercial
space,
so
they
don't
really
have
tenants
yet,
but
they
would
have
commercial
space
that
would
be
at
the
corner
and
then
it
would
run
north
along
sixth,
so
the
sixth
Frontage,
and
then
that
corner
of
East,
6th
and
Des
Moines
would
be
anchored
by
a
commercial
tenant.
And
then
this
space
over
here
would
be
a
leasing,
office
and
tenant
amenity
type
space.
The
space
is
down
here
on
the
first
floor
behind
these
windows.
This
is
covered
parking.
L
So
this
is
a
parking
deck,
we'll
look
at
a
floor
plan
and
you
can
help
you
visualize
that
a
little
bit
better
and
then
we
have
the
courtyard
here.
Everything
on
the
second
floor
up
is
all
residential,
so
we're
talking
186
units,
total
residential
units
about
7,
000
square
feet
of
ground
floor
commercial
space
and
about
another
four
thousand
square
feet
of
ground
floor
tenant
spaces,
leasing,
office.
Things
like
that.
L
L
L
Here
too,
especially
on
this
view,
you
can
really
tell
but
the
the
building
is
seven
stories
and
then
there's
what
I
would
call
like
these
little
Nubs
that
extend
and
that's
what
makes
it
that
it
gives
it
that
eight
story
and
that's
what
exceeds
that
height
threshold,
so
the
height
maximum
is
75
feet.
These
guys
right
here
on
both
the
ends
of
the
building.
Kick
it
up
to
85..
L
This
is
that
North
side
of
the
building
and
then
here's
the
East.
So
you
can
see
it.
The
building
is
mirrored
it
flips
this
here.
This
is
the
garage
entrance,
so
vehicular
access
would
be
off.
Des,
Moines,
Street
there'd
be
one
driveway.
It
would
come
from
on
the
east
side
of
the
building,
and
then
you
enter
into
the
garage
here
and
then
you
could
descend
through
the
garage
below
the
site.
L
So
here's
the
floor
plan
here.
So,
oh
sorry,
so
this
this
is
the
interior
view.
So
this
is
the
courtyard
elevations.
So
this
is
if
you're
standing
in
the
courtyard
looking
looking
towards
the
east
and
then
looking
towards
the
West
here,
Courtyard
specific
elevation
drawings,
so
the
building
kind
of
wraps.
So
you
have
like
you,
have
a
west
elevation
and
then
you
have
the
courtyard.
So
then
you
you
look
at
the
the
courtyard
from
from
the
inside.
Basically
that's
what
that's
what
this
is.
L
Right
here,
so
this
is
the
lower
level
the
parking
ramp.
This
is
that
first
floor,
we'll
probably
come
back
to
the
space.
So
this
is
that
Courtyard
area
here,
here's
the
the
ground
floor,
commercial,
space,
Here's,
the
residential
Lobby.
You
got
the
parking,
that's
behind
it.
So
this
is
the
garage
entrance
that
we
talked
about
earlier
and
then
this
is
that
courtyard
space.
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
going
on
here.
You've
got
some
semi-public
space,
that's
proposed
here,
and
you
have
a
host
of
10
and
amenity
spaces.
L
Here's
general
floor
plan.
Here's
that
top
floor
floor
plan.
You
can
see
floor
plan
for
the
Nubs
roof
plan
and
then
I
really
want
to
stop
here.
So
one
of
the
big
things
with
the
height,
the
real,
the
I
guess,
the
idea
behind
that
height
limit
in
the
East
Village.
What
we
would
call
the
capital
dominance
area,
which
is
an
area
that
runs
from
235
in
the
north
over
to
the
river
down
to
MLK
and
then
over
to
East
14th.
So
it's
kind
of
like
a
box
in
that
way,
and
so
anything
that's
constructed.
L
L
at
the
city,
we've
taken
a
lot
of
this
preliminary
information
and
we
have
been
able
to
create
this,
so
our
GIS
team
was
able
to
model
the
project
and
include
it
within
basically
like
a
3D
or
like
an
enhanced
version
of
that
image
that
we
were
just
looking
at
earlier.
So
really
looking
at
the
same
view
quarters
the
same
view
sheds
the
project
that
we're
talking
about
tonight.
L
So
this
is
a
view
from
235
as
you're
looking
East
towards
the
capital.
You
can
see
right
here
with
my
cursor.
This
is
the
proposed
building,
so
the
proposed
building
would
not
interrupt
from
that
specific
View
Court
or
that
specific
view
shed.
It
does
keep
the
capital
view
intact.
In
that
way,
this
is
just
a
rendering
that
I
wanted
to
show
that
generally
shows
the
building
in
three-dimensional
form
kind
of
superseded
over.
What's
there
again,
here
are
the
Nubs,
so
these
rise
up
to
85
feet.
L
L
Over
here
regarding
Parts,
a
through
D,
so
thinking
about
the
relief
needed
for
some
of
the
bill
to
Zone
occupied
space,
the
entrances
layout,
things
like
that
I
think
generally,
like
I
said
before
the
courtyard
is
really
the
element.
That's
the
linchpin
of
that
that
part
of
the
relief
and
that
part
of
the
design
like
I,
said
before,
especially
on
that
East
the
southeast
corner
and
then
that
southwest
corner
there
really
is
in
terms
of
the
building.
L
The
building
is
really
anchored
in
that
way
so
in
terms
of
architectury,
but
also
in
terms
of
the
use
mix.
So
there
are
some
ground
floor
kind
of
activation
spaces
that
will
really
activate
the
street
at
ground
level,
which
really
meets
the
intent
of
that
requirement
and
then
also
thinking
about
that
courtyard
again,
we
can
go
back
to
the
floor
plan.
L
L
Having
entrances
having
that
space
occupied
and
then
also
thinking
about
how
that
space
interacts
and
intersects
with
the
street
right
at
the
property
line,
how
it
abuts
it
there's
a
a
mix
of
decorative
fencing
plantings,
retaining
wall
that
really
do
a
good
job
of
providing
a
balance
of
an
edge.
So
this
is
an
edge
to
the
building,
but
also
a
degree
of
permeability.
So
there's
stairways
and
things
like
that,
where
people
can
go
back
and
forth
that
would
mimic
a
building
being
there
in
terms
of
occupied
space.
L
So
for
all
those
reasons,
Parts
a
through
D
those
parts
of
the
design,
Alternatives
says
staff.
We
felt
comfortable
approving
as
its
design
and
as
was
shown
to
you
tonight,
so
digging
into
the
building
height
generally.
Just
to
reiterate
the
what
what
the
relief
being
requested
for
is
here
is
that
height
limit.
So
within
the
capital
dominance
area
that
I
was
talking
about
earlier,
there
is
a
75
foot
height
limit.
L
The
majority
of
the
building
is
74
feet
or
would
be
74
feet,
10
inches,
which
that
in
that
element,
as
proposed,
that
would
be
compliant
as
a
seven-story
building.
They
would
not
need
any
relief
for
that.
However,
there
are
two
distinct
pieces
of
the
building
right
on
the
ends
for
those
two
end
units
that
would
exceed
that
they'd
go
up,
another
10
feet
to
about
84
feet,
10
inches
and
those
are
the
elements
that
need
the
relief
that
exceed
that
75-foot
Capital
dominance
restriction
in
that
way
for
the
height,
so
at
staff.
L
L
So
in
coordination
with
our
GIS
Department,
we
took
a
look
at
the
building
we
superseded
onto
the
existing
built
environment
context
and
those
specific
view,
corridors
that
have
been
brought
about,
not
just
by
the
planning
effort
that
I
showed
you
guys
from
2010,
but
even
decades
passed
that
that's
been
something
in
terms
of
the
downtown
planning
that
the
city
has
put
on
the
city
and
its
Consultants
have
put
on
that.
We've
really
tried
to
preserve
a
lot
of
those
view
sheds
and
just
analyzing
the
the
mapping
that
our
GIS
team
did
as
staff.
L
We
felt
that
what
was
proposed
was
not
interacting
with
or
intercepting
or
destroying
those
view
sheds
in
any
way.
So
for
those
reasons
as
staff,
we
support
that
part
e,
the
design
alternative
for
the
hype.
We
did
get
a
couple
comments
and
so
I
want
to
show
them
to
you.
Guys
and
I'll
just
hold
this
here,
so
everybody
can
read
through
if
you
could
look
up
when
you're
done
so
I
know
when
to
move
on
it'd
be
great.
Q
Q
E
I,
don't
see
the
and
I
think
the
other
comment
that
we
have
from
a
staff
person
that
works
with
the
capital
Planning
Commission.
It
also
expresses
concern
about
precedent,
ain't.
The
whole
reason
why
we
did
this
modeling
and
the
the
chapter
135
was:
has
design
alternative
language
specifically
within
the
capital
dominance.
Overlay
was
so
we
could
consider
things
Case
by
case
and
make
individual
decisions
which
tells
you
and
that's
contrary
to
the
notion
of
setting
a
press
in
it
and
just
we're
just
going
to
blanket.
E
We
approve
stuff,
we
we
are
very
intentionally
and
specifically
wanting
to
look
at
things
Case
by
case
making
a
very
wise
educated
decision.
That's
based
off
the
specifics
of
the
individual
site
and
not
just
kind
of
a
blanket
standard.
Have
the
blanket
standard
there.
So
there's
a
discussion
and
a
starting
point,
but
then
go
deep
on
each
site.
If
you
need
to.
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C
L
B
L
That's
a
good
question,
so,
in
the
analysis
of
this
site,
I
know
this
group
we've
talked
a
lot
about
primary
streets,
a
lot
so
the
primary
Street
and
the
primary
Frontage
in
this
context
is
actually
Des.
Moines
Street,
it's
not
E6.
So
there
are
no
requirements
for
the
ordinance
to
have
a
certain
number
of
entrances.
Every
certain
number
of
feet
like
there
would
be
on
a
primary
Frontage.
L
The
entrance
requirement
that
they
were
getting
relief
for
tonight
is
strictly
on
Des
Moines
Street,
so
they
have
two
entrances
on
Des
Moines
Street
per
the
Frontage
that
they
have
in
the
building
funds
that
they
have.
They
would
need
four
now
I
have
the
applicant
may
be
answered
better
for
me.
I
know
they
have
discussed,
maybe
having
multiple
tenants
in
here
and
then
that
would
create
more
door.
Action,
I,
just
I
know
that's
still
up
in
the
air
for
them
tonight,
but
per
the
ordinance.
It
would
not
technically
be
required
on
6th
Street.
Okay,.
G
E
A
G
B
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L
I
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I
N
A
A
B
N
R
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I
I
I
R
A
E
They
they
might
if
they
have
an
abstraction
permit.
They
may
have
permission
to
do
that,
but
why
that
if
they
didn't
have
the
permit,
then
they
would
not,
and
so
the
site
plan
needs
to
say
that,
like
that,
they
wouldn't
but
I
do
think
you
raise
a
interesting
or
good
valid
point
about
the
a
abstraction
permit
being
issued.
I
Braced
it
to
them
the
council,
members
and
the
manager
of
the
traffic
and
transportation,
the
city
engineer
and
have
not
been
able
to
get
that
moved.
These
are
very
risky
and
unsafe
conditions
for
people
that
are
riding
bikes
in
the
area
to
all
of
a
sudden
have
the
area
where
they're
riding
their
bike,
not
the
available
and
I
would
encourage
you
to
not
have
that
condition
for
this
project.
C
Yes,
I
know:
last
time
there
was
no
real
undergrounding
plan
with
respect
to
broadband
or
no
real
plan
with
respect
to
actually
Broadband
options
within
the
old
building.
Is
there
something?
Is
this
the
same
case
in
this
building?
If
we
thought
about
extra
conduits
to
make
sure
we're
not
you
know
preventing
or
causing
more,
you
know,
sort
of
broadband
accessibility,
blackout,
areas
or
anything
else,
the
undergrounding
plan
or
anything
with
respect
to
competitiveness
within
the
building
as
far
as
Broadband
offerings,
or
is
anything
in
there
been
considered
or
looked
at?
We.
R
E
I
R
I
I
S
Play
Commissioners,
it's
good
to
be
here:
Trey
Hall
I
live
at
2530,
University,
Avenue
Apartment
101,
soon
to
be
apartment.
205
though
101
for
now
I
just
want
to
get
my
thoughts
I'll
keep
it
brief.
I
really
appreciate
this
development.
I
think
this
is
exactly
what
we
need.
This
is
one
of
those
quality
of
life,
things
that
I
think
when
people
see
going
up
around
Des
Moines
I
think
that
they
get
excited
about
it.
I
get
excited
about
this
type
of
development.
S
I
think
that
my
thoughts
are
actually
particularly
relevant
in
this
one,
because
I
used
to
work
at
the
Capitol
I
used
to
be
a
capital
tour
guide,
so
I
would
take
people
up
to
the
library
and
we'd
look
out
at
Des
Moines
and
I'd
Point
things
out.
I
think
that
the
I
encourage
you
to
move
forward
with
this
plan.
I,
don't
think
that
the
the
height
of
the
building,
especially
with
how
small
of
a
part
of
the
entire
building
it
is,
will
make
a
giant
change
to
the
skyline.
S
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
as
well
I've
seen
the
capital
master
plan,
actually
so
I'm
glad
that
that
was
brought
up
but
yeah.
That's
that's!
Those
are
those.
Are
my
general
thoughts
I'm
happy
to
see
underground
parking,
not
a
bunch
of
surface
level.
Parking
I
think
that
the
city
has
plenty
of
surface
level
parking,
so
I
was
glad
to
see
that
I
would
encourage
I,
don't
know,
I
wasn't
quite
sure
where
we
were
at
with
the
the
indoor
bike,
storage
and
I'm.
Sorry,
if
I
didn't
catch
that.
S
B
Q
Thanks
Johnny
I
was
gonna
wholehearted
wholeheartedly
agree
with
that.
I
would
like
to
thank
the
gentleman
for
giving
tours
if
you
haven't
gotten
a
tour
they're,
phenomenal
and
they're
free,
so
our
state
capital
is
beautiful.
I
think
we
should
all
take
advantage
of
that.
I
live
in
the
East
Village
and
I
have
a
I
love
having
the
state
capitol
right
there
and
I
trust
the
staff
that,
if
there's
they're,
not
worried
about
the
view
I'm
not
either.
E
Yes,
absolutely
this
was
not
created
this
this
lidar,
this
underlying
model
was
created
a
couple
of
years
ago.
I
don't
know,
does
that
sound
about
right
and
we've
used
it
for
other
other
purposes,
but
it
was.
It
was
developed
with
the
intention
of
I
mean
what
motivated
us
was
the
capital
view,
but
I
think
it
could
be
interesting
to
use
another
other
projects
throughout
the
downtown.
B
B
Moving
on
to
item
number
six
request
from
Sing
Development
LLC
represented
by
Hardeep
balagan
for
review
and
approval
of
a
public
hearing
site
plan.
Hardeep
C
store
located
at
5901
Fleur
Drive
for
a
denied
type
1
design
alternative
to
allow
retention
of
a
drive
access
from
a
primary
Street
when
Drive
accesses
are
required
to
be
situated
off
of
alleys
or
non-primary
streets
and
Nick
from
staff
is
going
to
present
again
cool.
L
Thanks
Victor
planning
staff
so
again
right
now
we're
not
really
talking
about
any
of
their
site,
development
elements
or
the
building
or
anything
like
that.
The
building
is
driving
a
site
plan
as
part
of
the
site
plan
requirements,
you're
required
to
conform
to
the
access
requirements
that
are
set
out
both
in
the
building
types
section
of
the
planning
and
design
orange,
but
also
in
article
6,
which
regulates
vehicular
movement,
parking
Drive
accesses
things
like
that.
L
So
there's
a
couple
of
code
sections
here
that
really
speak
to
consolidating
and
limiting
Drive
accesses
in
terms
of
an
established
hierarchy.
So
when
we
think
about
site
access,
if
there's
an
alley,
we
want
you
to
use
an
alley.
That's
that's
the
what's
in
the
code
now,
if
you
don't
have
an
alley,
you
can
use
kind
of
that
next
level
up
which
would
be
a
non-primary
street
and
if
there's
no
non-primary
Street
available,
you
would
go
to
the
primary
street.
So
the
purpose
of
this
request
tonight
is
the
applicant.
L
They've
got
three
existing
accesses
as
part
of
the
site
plan.
As
staff
we've
recommended
that
they
close
one,
the
one
on
Fleur,
which
is
the
primary
Street,
the
applicant
they've
they've,
want
to
keep
all
three
of
them
open.
So
that's
what
we're
talking
about
tonight,
so
here's
the
site
and
we
can
take
a
look
at
the
access
that
I
was
talking
about.
So
this
is
the
BP
gas
station.
If
people
been
to
the
airport
you're
probably
familiar
with
it,
it's
right
across
from
the
the
newly
designed
main
entrance
here.
L
So
here's
just
a
conceptual
site
plan
here.
So
this
is
the
existing
building.
This
is
that
building
Edition,
we'll
look
at
a
street
view
later,
but
there's
a
car
wash
here
that
would
be
going
away
as
part
of
the
site
plan
they're,
also
proposing
some
pavement
removals
and
some
Landscaping
to
comply
with
current
standards.
This
is
the
drive
that
they
want
to
keep
open.
They've
got
two
other
drives
here
that
as
staff
they're
they're
allowed
to
keep
those.
L
L
L
So
those
of
you
that
might
be
aware,
the
city
right
now
is
putting
forth
what's
called
a
vision,
zero
action
plan,
Vision
zero
is
the
idea
of
trying
to
reduce
pedestrian
and
vehicular
fatalities
and
severe
injuries
through
Street
redesign
education
programs
host
of
things
and
the
map
that
we're
looking
at
here
is
what
we
would
call
a
high
Injury
Network,
and
basically,
what
that
means
is
that
any
of
these
lines
here
that
are
are
shaded.
This
dark
color
this
black.
L
Here
they
have
a
higher
proportion
of
vehicular
crashes
and
particularly
crashes
where
people
are
killed
or
they're
severe
or
severely
injured,
and
the
site
that
we're
looking
at
tonight
is
right
at
the
Terminus
of
the
one
on
floor.
So
this
is
Fleur
Drive
here.
The
site
that
we're
looking
at
tonight
is
literally
right
here.
So
I
just
want
to
come
back.
I'll
come
back
to
that
eventually.
But
I
did
want
to
point
that
out.
That's
in
impetus
for
some
of
the
staff
recommendations
that
you're
going
to
hear
tonight.
L
So
digging
into
the
staff
report
here
so,
like
I,
said
before
the
site's
at
a
corner,
it's
got
three
accesses
per
the
ordinance,
but
also
in
in
consultation
with
our
traffic
and
transportation
department.
Really
three
at
the
site
does
not
have
enough
traffic
to
really
necessitate
those
three
Drive
accesses
and
at
staff.
We
we
want
to
work
with
the
applicants.
They're
allowed
to
retain
two
off
that
non-primary
street.
We
just
really
feel
strongly
about
the
one-off
floor
and
why
is
that
you're
like
why?
L
Why
is
he
really
care
so
much
about
that?
One
axis
on
Fleur.
Well,
generally,
access
points
they
generally
affect
Corridor
safety.
So
the
more
access
points
that
you
have
onto
corridors,
that's
the
more
conflicts
that
you
create
not
only
with
other
vehicles,
but
pedestrians,
Transit,
Riders,
cyclists,
other
types
of
users
of
that
nature,
and
so,
as
you,
if
you
reduce
access
points,
Studies
have
shown
that
you
reduce
crashes,
because
you
reduce
those
conflicts
points
and,
like
I
said
before.
L
I
mentioned
that
Vision
zero
draft
plan,
like
I,
said
it's
just
a
draft
plan
right
now,
but
Corridor
access
management
is
one
of
the
tools
that
we
have
in
our
toolbox
to
be
able
to
try
to
improve
the
safety
of
our
corridors.
But
there's
not
going
to
be
a
CIP
project
necessarily
on
every
street
in
every
mile
of
the
city,
but
when
we
do
site
development,
that
is
a
mechanism
that
we
do
have
per
our
city
codes
and
ordinances,
to
reduce
some
of
those
driveways
and
so
generally.
L
Reducing
that
access
off
floor
would
one
you
would
direct
and
align
all
vehicular
traffic
through
a
controlled
intersection.
There's
a
stoplight
right
there
at
the
intersection
of
Florida
and
Highview,
but
two
you
would
reduce
pedestrian
conflicts
with
people
coming
in
and
out
of
that
floor
access.
So
there's
a
bus
stop
right
there,
so
Transit
Riders,
cyclists,
pedestrians
and
other
vehicles
as
well.
So
it's
like
a
two-pronged
approach
and
a
two-prong
goal
really,
and
so
for
all
those
reasons.
As
staff
we
are
recommending
denial
of
the
request.
I'll
be
happy
to
take
any
questions
on
it.
L
No,
it
was
not
no
and
it's
not
necessarily
because
the
distance,
it's
again,
it's
it's
the
street
you're
on
a
corner
right,
and
so
the
engineering
principle
would
be
both
from
planning
but
also
in
the
engineering
code
would
be.
If
you
have
an
access
from
a
non-primary
street,
that's
the
one
you
should
use
because
it
has
fewer
conflicts.
All.
L
Well,
so
that's
we're
still
kind
of
we're
in
in
between
the
site
plan
submittals
right
now
so
I
know
that
the
in
napkins
here
tonight,
they've
kind
of
redesigned
some
of
the
things
they
placed
on
the
site
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
the
landscaping
and
bike
rack,
and
things
like
that.
So
that's
when
we
say
compliance
with
all
administrative
review
comments.
That
would
be
something
that
we
would
work
with
them
on
to
get
that
placed
appropriately
thanks.
C
L
So
I
don't
know
the
exact
traffic
counts.
This
is
in
consultation
with
our
traffic
staff
and
it
was
hey.
This
is
a
use.
That's
not
driving
enough
trips
for
to
require
three
accesses,
we're
doing
a
site
plan.
We
would
request
that
one
of
them
be
closed.
They,
the
a
gas
station,
a
use
like
this-
does
not
have
a
demonstrated
need
to
to
maintain
or
retain
three
accesses.
That's
what
I
was
referring
to
when
I
made.
That
comment.
Does
that
help
I.
K
L
C
L
B
L
No
because
it
would
still
be
that
a
primary
Frontage,
and
so
there's
just
basically
the
goal
is
to
limit
accesses
off
those
primary
high
traffic
or
what
a
lot
of
people
call
arterial
type
streets,
so
it
still
would
not
be
allowed.
Really
one
one
access
per
site
is:
what
is
what
the
code
requirement
would
be.
We
could
Grant
relief
and
allow
more,
but
if
this
was
a
freshly
developing
site,
how
we
would
want
this
developed
would
be
really
just
one
access
off
of
Highview.
So.
B
Is
this
a
fairly
recent
change
because
I'm
thinking
about
all
the
gas
stations
that
I
have
been
to
that
are
on
corners
and
they
pretty
much
all
have
an
access
on
each
the
primaries
like
30
person,
University
that
come
and
go
that
went
in
the
last
couple
years?
There's
a
gas
station
at
28th
and
Grand
I.
B
L
E
Our
we
did
I
mean
under
the
old
code
and
site
plan
requirements.
We
had
c-store
design
guidelines,
but
we
we'd
always
had
relied
on
the
engineering
standards
to
dictate
the
number
of
driveways
in
the
past,
so
I
think
you're,
seeing
two
things.
One
you're
seeing
our
new
code
has
driveway
placement
number
requirements
in
it
based
off
of
building
typology
and
then,
in
addition,
the
thinking
and
the
traffic
a
transportation
division
is
evolving
and
they're,
not
just
it's
not
just
a
like
how
close
am
I
to
an
intersection
kind
of
question.
It's
all
about.
E
B
B
L
D
P
Matt
Palin
3013
158th
Avenue.
Thank
you
so
for
for
us,
the
issue
is
about
the
delivery
truck.
So
when
the
delivery
truck
has
to
come
in
on
on
Fleur
Drive
and
go
out
the
back
the
back
entrance
for
Highview
Drive,
if
we
close
that,
if
we
close
the
drive,
that's
on
on
Fleur,
the
delivery
truck
will
have
to
sit
in
the
street,
he
can't
make
it
into
the
lot
to
park
to
fill
the
tank
underground
and
then
drive
back
out.
So
we're
going
to
create
a
you
know.
P
C
P
P
E
P
F
E
E
E
K
E
B
N
N
Big
comments
for
staff
yeah:
can
we
explore
the
option
of
closing
one
of
the
driveways
on
Highview
Drive
as
well?
I
mean
I,
don't
know
what
to
turn
around
yeah
drawings
are
going
to
come
up
with,
but
if
that's
something
that's
preventing
the
site
from
closing
the
the
one
on
floor,
then
we
should
probably
explore
the
other
two
okay.
E
N
E
I
E
E
Just
let
everybody
know
that
I
think
a
while
back
you
saw
we
did
a
5
30
presentation
on
the
city's
historic
preservation
plan,
Citywide
preservation
plan.
We
are
kind
of
on
the
we've
got
a
draft
document.
We're
gonna
meet
one
more
time
with
the
advisor
committee
and
and
other
folks
we're
going
to
have,
but
there's
going
to
be
a
survey.
That's
we're
trying
to
solicit
more
input
on
on
the
you
know.
Are
we
hitting
the
mark?
What
are
the
priorities?
E
So
we
will
be
sharing
that
information
with
you
all
and
then,
when
the
draft
is
when
we're
going
through
the
approval
process,
we
will
come
back
before
the
commission
do
a
presentation,
as
it
goes
through
different
boards
and
commissions,
so
that'll
be
like
June
july-ish
somewhere
around
there
so
anyway.
Thank
you.