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From YouTube: Organized Residential Waste & Recycling Collection Citizen's Committee Meeting Recording 1 11 2021
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1. Call to Order and Roll Call
2. Recognition of Public Comment
3. New Business
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4. Committee Member's Choice
5. Adjourn
1. Chair Ward Approved the Agenda
3. Approval of Minutes
December 14, 2020
4. Old Business
7. Chairperson's Choice
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C
A
D
A
A
A
B
Thank
you
just
a
couple
of
administrative
notes.
Before
we
start.
First
of
all,
maria
has
an
appointment
with
city
council
tonight,
so
she
will
be
joining
us
later.
But
if
I
heard
correctly,
we
have
the
deputy
director
with
us
to
present
her
part
or
to
answer
any
questions
if
they
do
come
up.
Secondly,
member
adams,
who
has
joined
us
previously
tendered
his
resignation
from
the
committee
today,
so
he
will
not
be
joining
us
in
the.
F
B
C
A
B
B
A
Hello,
thank
you
for
letting
me
speak.
Creating
this
single
hauler
trash
is
just
another
shady
way
in
which
city
hall
will
use
to
siphon
more
money
out
of
the
citizens.
Nobody
wants
this
except
certain
city,
council,
members,
staff
and
the
various
cronies.
They
fill
their
committees
with
like
this
one.
What's
worse,
is
you've
picked
the
absolute
bottom
of
the
barrel
of
trash
companies,
waste
management-
I
like
the
company
we
use,
they
have
never
let
us
down,
but
here
you
are
trying
to
force
the
infamously
terrible
waste
management
on
everyone.
A
The
sad
thing
is
no
one's
even
trying
to
make
it
not
look
like
another
sleazy
inglewood
backroom
deal,
because
that's
exactly
what
it
looks
like
over
here
with
the
honest
folks,
you
know
the
real
reason
certain
streets
are
being
torn
up.
Is
the
constant
and
daily
presence
of
construction
vehicles
that
come
that
come
to
tear
down
nearly
every
home.
A
G
Oh
sorry,
can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,
please
sorry,
I
couldn't
get
unmuted.
Thank
you.
You
know
I,
you
know.
I
have
some
significant
certain
concerns
about
this,
and
one
of
the
first
is
cost.
The
second
is
you
know
I
I
feel
again
that
as
englewood
residents
we're
not
really
informed
of
what's
going
on
and,
more
importantly,
what
it's
gonna
cost
us
and
in
thinking
about
this
issue,
I
thought
about
what
changed
so
for
me.
G
G
G
So
the
only
thing
that
changed
is
that
the
trash
companies
decided
they
weren't
going
to
do
alley.
Pickup-
and
you
know
my
feeling
was.
It
would
be
pretty
simple
for
englewood
to
tell
crash
companies
that
if
they
wanted
to
do
business
here
is
maybe
they
should
just
continue
with
alley
pickup
and
the
only
company
that
was
willing
to
do.
That
was
waste
management
which
isn't
my
first
choice,
but
at
least
they
come
down
the
alley,
because
these
trash
cans
are
pretty
unmanageable
and
impossible,
and
I
know
there's
been
some
comments
about.
G
You
know
a
lot
of
trash
trucks
on
the
street,
but
the
trash
trucks
are
on
the
street
because
they're
coming
up
the
alley
and
down
the
alley,
they're
going
for
recycling
up
and
down
the
alley,
sometimes
and
then
they're
doing
trash,
pickup
and
recycling
on
the
street.
So
it's
where
people
are
picking
up,
that's
actually
increasing
the
truck
traffic.
G
So
don't
tell
me
how
important
it
is,
but
I
don't
recycle
now,
because
I
can't
hold
my
trash
can
down
to
the
street,
and
you
know,
I'm
really
concerned
about
the
cost
I
mean
can
angle
would
guarantee
it's
going
to
cost
me
less
than
what
I'm
paying
now
and
you
know,
am
I
going
to
pay
for
services
that
I
don't
want,
and
I
think
competition
is
the
you
know
it's
the
foundation
of
cost
effectiveness.
The
competition
is
the
foundation
of
capitalism.
G
B
H
Okay,
sorry
about
that,
thanks
for
your
time,
it
feels
to
me
after
30
something
years
here
in
englewood,
that
the
new
climate
in
inglewood
is
impose
more
fees,
impose
more
taxes,
and
if
a
fee
goes
up,
you
call
it
a
fee.
We
call
it
the
tax.
The
new
climate
feels
like
there's
a
lot
of
corruption.
There's
a
lot
of
one
hand
washes
the
other.
H
There
is
a
lot
of.
We
can
stick
it
into
our
own
pockets
if
there
is
a
profit
to
be
made-
and
I
find
that
absolutely
outrageous-
I
find
the
underhandedness
of
how
that
trash
service
is
imposed
on
us.
Like
big
brother,
I
don't
need
a
big
brother.
Trash
service
is
easy
to
get.
There
is
no
environmental
advantage
to
one
trash
service.
H
H
H
I
find
that
outrageous
that
it's
not
on
the
ballot,
and
I
hope
this
is
being
taped
and
if
you
get
a
new
trash
service
that
is
imposed
on
us,
then
there
are
administrative
costs
associated
with
that
that
guess
what
probably
are
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
passed
on
to
citizens?
I
am
sure
how
did
you
choose
the
company?
It's
not
the
best
company
out
there.
It
never
has
been
so
what's
the
kickback
that
isn't
grandpa
but
has
to
exist
because
there
are
better
companies
out
there.
The
fact
that
it's
environmentally
better
is
complete
trash.
H
H
Recycling,
if
you
do
research
on
that,
not
every
citizen
needs
a
recycle
thing,
because
most
plastic
bottles,
water
bottles
go
in
the
trash
and
if
you
research
it
not
one
company
will
tell
you
that
it's
people
to
recycle
then
to
make
new
ones
they're,
making
new
ones.
It
goes
into
big
trash
somewhere
in
a
valley
where
we
dispose
it.
So
that
makes
no
sense.
H
I
I
I
operate
this
company
here
called
campus
colorado
and
we
we
collect,
compost
and
broomfield
through
highlands
ranch.
We
grew
300
percent
last
year
and
we
are
excited
about
the
upcoming
rfp
through
this
group.
My
I
think
one
of
the
concerns
I
have
is
that
you
are
you're
going
to
do
a
great
job
focusing
on
education,
particularly
with
the
recycling
and
compost
pieces.
I
I
While
this,
these
organics
can
be
processed
locally
and
be
returned
back
into
the
soils
and
given
back
to
the
community,
and
so
I
would
encourage
this,
this
committee
to
to
put
the
the
disposal
and
completing
the
loop
elements
into
into
this
and
yeah
again.
Thank
you
for
thank
you
again
for
having
this
open
to
the
public,
and
I
look
forward
to
participating.
D
J
I
L
L
Passing
by
the
obvious
problems
with
the
process
the
city
is
going
through.
I
have
issues
with
englewood
citizens
being
forced
to
pay
a
government
set
amount
for
their
trash
and
having
it
rolled
onto
the
water
bill,
because
that
can
be
a
lien
can
eventually
be
put
against
your
property
for
that,
and
I
don't
think
that
that
is
appropriate
for
the
trash
service.
I
also
don't
think
it's
appropriate
for
the
city
of
englewood
to
award
a
monopoly.
M
L
L
I
don't
appreciate
being
forced
into
the
op
service
options.
I
would
rather
have
a
choice.
Everything
that
I
have
read
about
recycling
in
the
united
states
says
it's
less
than
20
percent
of
the
materials
we
put
in
there
because
asia
pac
has
stopped
buying
our
refuse,
so
there's
no
longer
the
demand
that
there
once
was,
and
so
I
haven't
recycled
in
to
over
two
years,
since
I
last
saw
the
pbs
special
on
that
very
issue.
L
I
also
get
the
new
york
times
and
they
put
out
articles
saying
the
exact
same
thing:
it's
not
worth
my
money
at
this
point.
The
technology
is
not
there
for
this.
The
other
things
I
I
have
an
issue
for
is
how
the
city
is
going
to
administer
this
program.
It's
going
to
charge
us
for
two
new
bureaucrats
and
a
bureaucrat
heavy
government
city
government,
and
how
are
you
going
to
handle
the
situations
with
waste
management?
I
already
know
they
exist,
I'm
not
the
only
one
on
my
street
who
has
had
issues
with
them.
L
L
I
understand
you
are
going
to
take
the
credit
away
from
us,
so
it
completely
removes
the
consumer's
voice
in
trash
service
here
in
inglewood,
and
I
also
think
that
this
is
unfairly
again
putting
the
onus
on
the
homeowner
and
not
the
growing
apartment,
condo
and
commercial
part
of
our
economy
here
in
inglewood,
because
we
as
homeowners,
have
had
an
unfair
burden
in
the
current
growth
model.
Thank
you.
C
L
Be
wrong.
Okay,
but
I
was
informed
under
the
model
that
you're
looking
at
when
I
don't
receive
trash
service
like
waste
management
did
all
those
years
ago.
Three
times
they
didn't
pick
up
my
trash
three
weeks
in
a
row
I
demanded
in
god
of
credit,
although
I
had
to
get
a
lawyer,
are
you
going
to
do
for
englewood
citizens
when
their
trash
is
not
picked
up?
Like
that?
I
understood
that
any
credits
you
were
going
to
get
back,
not
the
individual
citizen.
B
A
A
A
You
are
a
long
ways
away
from
what
my
expectation
of
what
the
proposal
was
going
to
be
based
on
those
meetings,
specifically
the
you're
going
to
charge
me
every
month
on
my
water
bill
and
then
you're
going
to
make
me
pay
an
administrative
fee.
For
that,
I
have
no
idea
what
the
fee
is
going
to
be,
and
is
it
going
to
be
more
than
what
I'm
paying
now
and
what's
the
point
of
saying
after
a
year,
I
can
drop
out
if
the
whole
idea
is
to
reduce
the
trash
trucks
in
the
neighborhood.
A
A
N
N
The
proposal
in
general
is
a
violation
of
individual
property
rights
of
owners
and
too
costly
to
the
city
and
homeowners
and
quite
unnecessary.
I
agree
with
cynthia
and
marge
so
some
of
this
will
be
redundant.
Waste
management
is
the
company
that
makes
the
most
mess
and
makes
from
five
to
eight
trips
down
the
street
and
still
misses
at
least
one
customer
every
trash
day.
N
Mandatory
recycling
is
wrong,
no
recycling
is
actually
done
and
we
shouldn't
have
to
pay
for
it.
Nobody's
buying
our
trash
anymore
and
the
few
companies
that
do
recycle
require
glass
to
be
clean
and
unbroken
and
unchipped,
and
separated
ditto
for
paper
and
cardboard
which
waste
management
does
not
do
they
dump
all
into
one
truck
overhead,
which
leaves
a
lot
of
trash
blowing
over
the
street
and
glass
is
broken
and
cannot
be
recycled
due
to
contamination.
N
Many
of
the
companies
that
might
take
the
recycling
from
them
or
directly
from
homeowners
have
gone
out
of
business
because
there
is
no
profit
much
less
can
they
cover
their
cost
or
they
won't
accept
any
recycling
from
waste
management.
It
all
ends
up
in
the
trash
heap
because
it's
all
contaminated.
N
The
plan
requires
a
96
gallon
trash
container,
at
least
one-third
the
citizens
the
elderly
cannot
handle
that
size
container
even
empty.
I
have
no
room
on
my
property
for
such
and
it
would
take
me
six
months
to
fill
it
up
anyway.
Many
elderly
do
not
create
much
trash
less
than
a
five
gallon
bag
a
week.
N
N
Originally
we
were
assured
no
need
for
additional
staffing.
Why
are
we
now
adding
close
to
200
000
to
staffing,
including
benefits
per
year,
when
we
can't
balance
the
budget
of
the
city?
Now
let
the
trash
companies
bear
their
burden
rather
than
violating
rights
and
adding
to
our
utility
bills,
which
are
already
almost
unsustainable
for
the
average
homeowner.
N
N
The
way
it's
set
up
right
now
with
waste
management.
Making
this
many
trips,
one
hauler
when
you
only
have
one
or
two
trash
days
a
week,
require
more
trucks,
larger
trucks
and
therefore
just
as
much
emissions
and
most
of
the
problem
with
the
infrastructure,
the
alleged
the
alleged
damage
to
roads
comes
from
a
concrete
truck
or
those
huge
cranes
or
the
demolition
units.
You
know
the
big
ones
that
have
the
kind
of
crane
in
the
bucket
that
knock
down
everything.
N
O
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
My
husband
and
I
are
relatively
new
residents
to
the
inglewood
area.
We
actually
happen
to
live
on
the
denver
and
inglewood
city
county
line
and
since
we
first
moved
in,
we've
literally
had
four
and
five
trash
companies
and
the
reason
being-
and
I
think
the
first
lady
spoke
about
it-
was
because
these
trash
companies
stopped
picking
up
in
the
alley
because
they
were
doing
a
lot
of
damage
or
whatnot.
O
So
since
we've
been
here
in
three
years,
we
have
had
to
pay
the
fees
to
start
trash
service
and
then
get
delivery
right
of
two
bins
or
recycling
in
a
trash
bin
of
like
75
bucks
each
time
and
then
had
to
start
paying.
You
know
twelve
dollars
per
bin
monthly
fee.
So
after
the
fourth
time
we
said,
gosh
we're
paying
so
many
fees
and
pick
up
and
delivery
of
their
recycling
canisters.
O
In
addition
to
the
monthly
fees
we're
just
going
to
go
to
home
depot
and
buy
our
own
96
gallon
bins
right
because
it
doesn't
make
sense
for
us
to
continue
to
pay
these
pick
up
and
drop
off
and
monthly
fees.
So
now
we
have
spent
eight
hundred
dollars
and
own
our
own
two
trash
bins
right.
We've
stopped
recycling
because
we,
like
the
other.
Ladies,
I
know
it
just
goes
into
one
big
bin
right,
so
why
am
I
paying
extra
for
that?
O
I'm
not
interested
in
composting,
but
we're
with
republic
services
and
for
the
first
time
they
come
through
the
alley
they
pick
it
up.
They
put
our
bins
back
where
they
found
them.
We
cannot
physically
drag
our
96
gallon
bins
down
to
the
street,
and
so
that's
why,
for
us,
it's
so
important
that
we
have
alley
pickup
and-
and
I
will
tell
you-
people
talk
about
the
the
roads
and
this
and
that
the
city,
whoever
they
hired
to
come
and
grade
our
alleys.
O
This
year
have
made
our
alleys
worse
than
they've
ever
been,
and
I
mean
it's
bad.
I
mean
somebody
needs
to
be
driving
down
these
alleys
and
looking
at
the
damage
that
the
graders
did
to
not
the
trash
companies,
and
I
believe
that
this
should
go
to
the
voters.
I
don't
believe
that
we
should
have
to
to
go
with
the
service
if
we're
happy.
O
Currently,
we
should
be
able
to
opt
out
from
the
beginning,
and-
and
if
you
are
forcing
this
on
us,
we
should
be
able
to
opt
out
all
together
of
recycling
and
compost
and
we
should
be
able
to
use
our
own
bins
that
we've
paid
good
money
for
right.
That
are
the
same
as
anybody
else
right
and
not
have
to
pay
all
these
additional
fees
and
charges,
and
I
can
tell
you
we
did
have
waste
management
once
during
all
this
time
and
we
cancelled
them
too,
because
they
missed
our
trash
multiple
times.
O
A
I
do
think
themed
with
all
other
speakers
tonight
that
this
is
something
that
really
needs
to
be
presented
on
a
ballot.
This
isn't
something
that
a
small
committee
can
can
move
forward
with
that
really
drives
across
all
the
citizens
of
englewood.
This
is
something
that
everyone
needs
to
vote
on.
We
had
several
amendments
and
and
things
that
we
voted
on
this
year,
and
this
should
have
been
included
in
that
or
should
be
included
in
this
november's
ballot
so
that
the
the
citizens
of
englewood
can
choose.
A
B
P
P
J
Howdy
dude,
thank
you
for
having
us
we're
in
district
three,
but
I
feel
like
this
is
a
a
pure
example
of
a
government
overreach.
It
should
be
on
the
ballot
without
question.
It
lacks
the
quality
and
truly
performing
of
a
service
that
is
helping
the
the
public
and
public's
need,
and
it's
not
necessary.
J
J
J
J
If
the
individual
has
a
problem,
they
can
address
the
company
themselves
and
get
it
resolved
if
we
require
special
needs
or
requests
doing
it
through
the
government,
bureaucracy
is
slow
or
impossible,
and
the
individual
can
request
a
direct.
You
know
request
it
directly
from
the
company.
If
that
need
is
not
possible,
then
the
individual
can
find
another
company
to
perform.
That.
J
P
P
We
live
in
district
3.
Just
so
you
know.
The
approximate
location
here
are
my
concerns
regarding
your
plan
to
change
the
ability
of
englewood
citizens
to
continue
to
choose
their
own
trash
provider,
to
a
plan
that,
without
going
to
the
vote
of
such
citizens,
will
force
residents
into
a
single
hauler
provider.
P
P
Yet
so
you
ask
yourself
what
was
that
silence
all
about?
It
was
uncomfortable,
wasn't
it
and
it
was
awkward
and
perhaps
you
thought
I'd
lost
my
place
or
my
ability
to
communicate.
I'm
sure
you
wondered
what
I
was
thinking.
I
think
that's
my
very
point
in
why
I
did
it
this
evening.
It's
how
I
feel
about
the
manner
in
which
this
plan
has
been
handled.
It's
been
rather
silently
formed
without
the
voice
of
citizen
input.
P
Little
effort
has
been
made
to
communicate
and
I
most
definitely
feel
I
must
ask
you
what
you
were
thinking
to
draft
this
plan
without
citizen
input
tonight.
My
hope
is
that
you
will
hear
not
just
listen
to
this
small
tip
of
the
iceberg.
Citizen
concern
you're,
hearing
and
citizen
disapproval
of
the
terms
you
feel
entitled
to
commit
englewood
residents
to
I'm
concerned
about
contract
transparency.
P
P
P
Two
years
ago,
when
we
moved
into
englewood
from
34
years
in
denver
where
they
had
dumpsters
in
the
alleys
we
looked
at
pricing
and
waste
management
was
outrageous
by
the
time
they
added
in
fees
on
their
container
fees
and
setup
fees.
Complaints
were
everywhere
on
sites
like
next
door.
This
is
probably
the
most
hotly
contested
discussion
that
goes
on.
There
is
who
the
heck
can
pick
up
your
trash
and
do
it
responsibly,
one
by
one.
Those
companies
that
could
not
provide
cost-effective
and
reliable
service
were
bought
out
or
left.
That's
the
beauty
of
competition.
P
P
K
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
just
a
couple
thoughts.
Listening
to
that
a
couple
thoughts,
just
listening
to
our
fellow
citizens
comments
this
afternoon
this
evening.
One
I
think
I
I
stand
in
agreement
to
say
that
consumer
choice
is
something
that
is
a
hallmark
of
a
hallmark
of
how
people
make
decisions
about
quality
of
life,
things
that
they
want
in
their
life.
And-
and
you
know,
the
garbage
component
is
a
messy
part
of
our
lives.
It's
a
necessity
and
one
that
I
think
should
be
driven
by
consumer
choice.
K
Taking
into
consideration
the
role
of
the
role
of
procurement,
the
role
of
of
what
legally
binding
proposals
have
gone
through
the
process
to
arrive
at
this
decision,
I
think,
is
a
necessary
part
of
government,
but
when
it
comes
to
affecting
the
choice
of
inglewood
citizens
and
those
in
particular
that
own
residents
I
feel
like
like
there
hasn't
been
an
opportunity
to
be
more
informed,
not
to
say
that
there
hasn't
been
opportunities
to
be
informed.
But
I
sympathize
with
some
of
the
various
geographies
in
our
diverse
community.
K
We've
got
hills,
we've
got
driveways.
We've
got
different
challenges
that
that
have
to
be
faced
with
varying
levels
of
ability
to
be
able
to
complete
basic
necessary
requirements
to
take
out
your
trash,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
being
taken
into
consideration
some,
you
know
it
may
be
that
there's
some
trailing
liability
regarding
ada
requirements
that
the
city
hasn't
necessarily
thought
through
in
this
in
this
endeavor.
I
also
think
it's
deeply
unfair.
K
That
residents
are
are
saddled
with
this
cost
and
that
they
don't
have
a
choice.
I
also
think
it's
deeply
unfair
that
large
these
new
large
apartment
complexes
condos,
while
they
also
maintain
contracts
for
their
service,
that
they
are
not
also
subject
to
the
fees
that
come
with
the
difference
between
owning
a
home
and
not
so.
I
do
think
this
merits
further
discussion
with
the
general
public
before
finalizing
a
contract.
K
B
B
Just
a
few
more
seconds
and
then
we
will
go
back,
there
is
a
raised
hand
function.
I
see
someone
named
dwayne
who
is
physically
raising
his
hand.
You
should
check
the
controls
on
the
panel.
I
see
you
there
duane
we'll
go
ahead
and
skip
over
jamie
b
because
we're
not
hearing
anything
you
can
go
ahead
and
mute
your
microphone
lane
and
give
us
your
comment.
B
Q
There
I've
been
in
inglewood
since
1969
from
being
a
12
year
old
son
and
basically
being
grown
up
around
here
and
I've
seen
a
lot
of
things
happen
in
inglewood.
Now
I've
bought
my
house
in
2000
with
my
mom
and
then
again
in
2006,
bought
it
myself
here
on
oxford.
I
guess
I'm
in
section
3
or
whatever,
but
on
oxford,
there's
a
lot
of
different
companies
that
come
through
and
service
all
these
houses
and
stuff.
Q
In
everything
I've
heard
tonight
from
everybody,
I
have
not
heard
a
single
person
say
this
is
a
good
idea
and
I
agree
with
every
one
of
them.
There's
I
mean
luckily
I'm
on
oxford
and
I
I
don't
have
to
worry
about
an
alley
growing
up.
We
did,
and
but
I
agree
that
this
needs
to
go
to
the
voters
I
from
being
in
inglewood
this
long.
Q
I've
got
a
lot
of
friends
that
I've
talked
to
about
this
and
there
everyone
again
that
I've
talked
to
says
the
same
thing,
that
this
is
a
very
bad
idea
for
myself,
I'm
a
disabled
vet
and
if
and
I've
tried
waste
management
and
when
I
decided
to
leave
them,
they
offered
to
match
the
price
that
I
was
going
to
be
going
to
the
other
one.
So
I
stayed
with
them
for
another
year,
except
for
it.
Q
A
A
A
M
K
G
B
Well,
I
understand
that
you
have
that
question.
This,
unfortunately,
is
a
time
for
public
comment,
not
for
q.
A
so
we're
gonna
have
to
pass
on
answering
that
specific
question.
One
thing
I
will
note
is
that
the
city
did
receive
two
requests
for
proposal
or
two
proposals
based
on
the
request
for
proposals
that
already
went
out.
Both
of
those
have
already
been
rejected,
and,
and
so
there
is
no
active
proposal,
as
as
we
are
speaking
right
now,.
C
L
M
B
All
right,
so
I
think
that
is
going
to
conclude
our
public
comment,
section
I'll
just
note
for
committee
members
who
don't
have
clocks
near
them.
It
is
of
6
53
almost
an
hour
into
our
meeting.
I
will
open
the
floor
up
at
this
point.
I
have
a
few
things
to
say
in
response
to
public
comment.
I'm
sure
some
of
the
other
members
do
excuse.
A
B
A
R
R
One
of
the
concerns
that
I
have
obviously
in
the
area
is
with
the
alleys
someone
mentioned
earlier,
that
they're
pretty
deplorable.
I
definitely
echo
that
they
are
a
mess.
Second
to
that
is
that
I
am
in
a
newer
build
and
I
am
a
middle
unit
and
therefore
I'm
about
a
third
way
up
our
alley.
So
it's
very
high
of
importance
to
me
that
whoever
we
go
with.
F
R
Of
all
this
should
definitely
be
left
up
to
vote,
but
that
we've
on
our
second
trust
trash
hauler.
Now,
because
our
first
one
refused
to
do
alley
pickup.
Obviously,
I
cannot,
especially
in
mucky
conditions,
walk
these
giant
barrels
around
to
285
to
the
front
of
my
house
on
ogden.
You
know,
I'm
a
30-something
able
person
and
this
just
isn't
feasible.
So
I
can
only
imagine
what
this
would
be
like
for
the
seniors
in
our
community.
R
I
do
think
whatever
direction
we
go
needs
to
be
whether
it's
left
up
to
the
consumer
or
not,
must
be
alley.
Pickup
required,
and
I
apologize
if
I
didn't
read
a
pdf
or
something
on
this-
that's
been
socialized,
but
I
I
don't.
I
don't
think
we're
in
a
place
with
all
of
the
new
construction
and
some
of
the
kind
of
multi-family
dwellings
that
are
popping
up
here
and
there
and
further
more
of
the
cornerstone
homes
throughout
englewood
to
go
away
from
alley
pickup.
B
B
B
S
Thank
you,
fair
ward,
and
thank
you.
Everyone,
who's
provided
a
public
comment.
I
don't
intend
to
respond,
but
I
actually
wanted
to
request
that
chair,
ward,
perhaps
or
vice
chair
green,
summarize
the
process
of
where
we
are
in
this
process,
because
from
a
number
of
the
comments
there,
there
are
several
misconceptions,
one
being
that
any
hauler
has
been
chosen
as
well
as
a
number
of
other
comments.
So
I
would
request
that
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair
just
address
the
process,
because
no
decisions
have
been
made
in
any
way.
S
B
D
D
S
I
think
that's
a
completely
unreasonable
question.
I
I
don't
see
what
relevance
it
has
they're
committee
members
who've
been
approved.
I
know
in
cases
is
a
group
of
citizens.
People
come
people,
go
there's,
you
don't
sign
a
membership
card,
it's
simply
a
group
of
people
who
are
interested
in
in
similar
issues,
whether
that
be
gardening,
whether
that
be
energy,
whether
that
be
trash
any
number
of
things.
So
I
think
it's
a
completely
irrelevant
and
inappropriate
question.
D
Well,
I
will
tell
you,
member
fraser,
I
don't
believe
that's
the
case,
because
I
think
the
citizens
of
this
city
should
know
who's
sitting
on
this
committee
and
what
ties
they
have.
I
mean
I
know
that
there
is
a
case
member
who
is
liaison
to
counsel
and
so
yeah.
I
don't
think
it's
inappropriate
at
all,
because
if
you
have
so
many
people
on
one
committee
that
represents
or
stands
for
a
certain
agenda,
then
I
think
it
is
a
fair
and
reasonable
question.
D
N
D
E
S
Point
of
order
would
be
a
request
that
there
not
be
a
question
and
answer
period
if
someone
wishes
to
respond
to
public
comment
or
reiterate
where
we
are
in
the
process.
I'd
again
reiterate
my
suggestion
to
the
chairs
to
update
as
to
where
we
are
in
the
process.
This
has
nothing
to
do
with
anything.
B
B
You
are
not
entitled
to
interrupt
me,
so
please
stop.
The
members
who
are
involved
in
case
can
choose
to
disclose
their
association
with
that
private
organization.
If
they
choose
to
do
so.
Likewise,
anyone
who
wishes
to
deny
affiliation
with
case
I
am
personally
not
affiliated
with
case
I've,
never
been
to
a
case
meeting.
I'm
personally
acquainted
with
several
case
members,
but
I'm
not
a
member
of
case
can
also
do
so.
B
C
Sure,
thanks
for
the
suggestion,
remember
there's
clearly
so.
First
I'd
like
to
say
in
regard
to
transparency,
the
some
people
mentioned
how
the
city
had
the
three
meetings
and
I
believe
that's
how
most
of
us
got
involved.
I
went
to
one
of
those
meetings
and
spoke
up.
I
think
member
fraser
might
have
gone
to
all
three
two
of
them
and
other
you
know.
I
believe
we
all
you
know
had
an
interest
in
this
once
we
heard
about
it
and
then,
as
far
as
transparency,
the
transparency
has
been
increased.
C
Okay
back
to
transparency,
it
is
all
there
if
you're
willing
to
listen
to
the
meetings
and
then,
as
far
as
like
what
has
happened,
the
city
had
three
meetings
to
get
public
input.
I
believe
at
least
one
of
those
meetings
was
almost
300.
People
who
showed
up
and
the
city
did
a
pretty
good
job
of
documenting
all
that
input.
All
of
that
is
posted
on
the
city
website.
C
You
can
see
the
the
the
chart
that
was
made
tallies
of
all
the
input
they
did
do
a
an
online
form
trying
to
get
people
to
put
input
in.
I
was
not
a
fan
of
that
form
I
felt
like
it
was
biased.
I
tried
to
answer
the
questions
and
gave
up
because
there
weren't
even
options
on
it
that
you
know
fit
for
what
I
thought.
So
I
I
have
you
know
feelings
about
that
form
and
I
would
understand
people
being
turned
off
by
that.
C
You
know
there
are
potential
benefits
from
an
environmental
standpoint,
less
wear
and
tear
on
the
alleys,
less
trucks,
etc.
The
the
things
that
matter
to
me,
the
most
is.
If
the
city
is
going
to
consider
this,
then
we
must
require
alley
and
street
service
and
that's
what
the
original
rfpu
that
was
made
prior
to
this
committee
meeting
did
require
so
the
in
june
of
2020.
C
Prior
to
the
first
meeting
of
this
committee,
there
was
a
previous
version
of
this
committee
that
was
informal
that
worked
with
maria
the
deandrea,
the
director
of
I'm
sorry
as
far
as
her
position,
but
they
put
together
an
rfp,
so
a
request
for
proposal
that
was
put
out
and
any
providers
could
respond
to
it.
We
only
had
two
providers
respond,
and
that
was
waste
management
and
republic,
and
neither
of
them
responded
completely
in
line
with
what
the
request
for
proposal
said,
and
this
committee
was
formed
of
citizens.
C
C
You
know
to
to
have
input
on
behalf
of
citizens,
and
you
know
I
encourage
anyone
who
has
specific
cares
to
do
exactly
what
you
all
did
today
come
to
our
meetings
and
speak
up,
write
to
us.
The
list
of
us
is
available
on
the
city
site.
I
care
a
lot
about
what
citizens
think
and
I
know
everyone
else
does
too
like
we're
trying
to
do
the
best
job
of
taking
into
account
what
citizens
care
about.
So,
first
of
all,
this
rfp
was
put
out.
Two
companies
responded.
Then
this
committee
started
to
meet.
C
This
committee
was
formed
of
citizens
to
consider
the
responses
to
that
request
for
proposal,
and
we
started
going
down
that
path.
Director
d'andrea
walked
us
through
them.
We
all
did
our
own
evaluation
of
them
and
the
outcome
of
several
meetings
was.
We,
as
a
group
decided
that
the
original
rfp
did
not
cover
what
was
necessary
based
on
the
input
of
all
of
us,
and
we
recommended
to
city
council
that
they
reject
the
responses
to
the
original
rfp
and
allow
us
to
participate
in
creating
a
new
rfp
city.
C
I
took
six
pages
of
notes
just
now
from
everything
you
all
said.
Almost
everything
that
was
brought
up
is
currently
in
our
discussions.
These
are
things
that
we're
talking
about
in
regard
to
fees
and
penalties
and
alley,
and
I
think
one
thing
that
was
huge
is
hearing
how
many
people
are
concerned
about
size
of
containers
and
that'll
have
to
be
included
in
our
discussions
more
completely.
C
C
If
penalties
are
incurred,
then
the
citizen
does
get
some
of
it
that
we're
incentivizing
the
service
to
do
a
really
good
job
and
that
recycling
actually
does
get
recycled,
and
that's
something
I
brought
up
because
I'm
aware
of
the
fact
that
china
stopped
by
buying
our
recycling
and
that
there's,
you
know
a
lot
of
recycling
that
is
collected
that
ends
up
in
landfills
and
I
think
that's
an
extremely
important
thing
to
consider.
So
all
of
these
points
are
being
considered.
C
B
B
I
don't
really
have
anything
to
add
to
carson's
comments
that
hasn't
already
been
said,
but
I
would
like
to
emphasize.
There
is
no
active
proposal.
I've
already
said
that,
once
the
proposals
that
were
submitted
were
rejected,
so
whoever
gave
out
information
that
we
were
adopting
waste
management
either
lied
or
did
not
know
what
they
were
talking
about,
and
so
I
hope
that
the
people
that
they
talk
to
will
consider
the
source
the
next
time
they
get.
Information
from
that
person.
C
Just
to
finish
one
more
thing
chair
award
can
I
just
say
one
absolutely
just
what
I
didn't
finish
out
is
kind
of
the
where
we're
going
with
this.
So
this
committee
doesn't
have
the
ability
to
make
a
choice
for
the
city,
all
the
the
what
this
committee
is
doing
is
we've
been
given
the
the
role
request
of
evaluating
originally
just
evaluating
the
responses
to
a
proposal.
C
Now
that's
gone
through
that
iteration
and
now
we're
creating
a
new
request
for
proposal
and
then
once
the
responses
to
that
new
request
for
proposal
come
in
we'll
evaluate
those
and
then
we'll
make
a
recommendation
to
counsel,
and
our
recommendation
to
counsel
could
include
that
it
goes
to
ballot
it.
You
know,
there's
nothing.
C
That's
decided
that
this
isn't
going
to
ballot,
yet
what's
been
decided
is
to
have
public
input
through
the
creation
of
this
committee
after
they
already
took
in
a
lot
of
public
input
by
those
three
meetings,
so
that
the
city
is
getting
public
input
and
taking
it
into
account
and
being
transparent
with
all
of
our
efforts.
So.
B
B
R
Maria
thank
you
very
much
and
I
will
go
back
and
watch
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
as
well.
So
I'm
aware
of
the
public
comments
that
were
made
so
tonight
we'll
continue
on
with
our
agenda,
so
we
were
going
to
first
circle
back
with
a
couple
of
items
that
we
had
talked
about
a
little
bit
but
never
really
came
to
final
comment
on
in
this
month.
Since
we've
met,
I've
also
been
able
to
do
some
outreach
to
different
communities.
R
So
you'll
see
that
here
I
was
going
to
follow
up
with
some
research
on
how
they
structured
their
contract
increases.
So
you'll
see
that
later
in
the
agenda,
but
the
first
two
items
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
tonight
are
composting
and
green
waste
and
then
large
item
pickup.
So
we'll
start
with
the
composting
and
green
waste
and,
as
you
may
recall,
so
we'll
break
this
down
into
two
topics.
First,
the
I
think
I
have
the
composting
first
and
then
the
green
waste
so
for
composting.
R
We
did
include
it
in
the
original
rfp
that
there
would
be
weekly
pickup
and
on
a
year-round
basis
and
that
the
the
standard
container
would
be
provided
by
the
waste
hauler.
So
you
had
to
basically
opt
in
or
add,
in
other
words,
add
an
additional
cost
to
your
service.
If
you
wanted
to
have
composting,
this
is
similar
to
other
organizations,
but
there
are
cities
like
lafayette
arvada
who
have
included
composting
as
a
base
service
within
their
within
their
base
proposal
for
the
green
waste.
R
Both
the
pricing
for
both
of
those
options
were
quite
high
and
there
were
was
a
minimum
number
of
households
that
needed
to
participate
before
either.
One
would
consider
offering
that
program.
For
the
city,
we
have
since
also
talked
about
that
there's
other
providers
out
there
who
could
potentially
do
the
same
thing
and
putting
out
another
rfp
that
might
just
focus
on
composting
itself
outside
of
this
rfp
for
garbage
and
recycling
collection.
R
R
If
the
base
service
can
people
opt
out,
and
if
so,
does
this
change
the
cost
for
them
higher
or
lower,
and
should
how
should
we
structure
that
service
in
the
new
rfp
that
sort
of
thing
so
do
you
want
to
start
there
with
just
the
composting
or
you
want
to
talk
about
both
composting
and
green
waste?
At
the
same.
B
R
Yes,
so
I
think
what
we
also
talked
about
last
time,
vice
chair
was
that
we
would
have.
We
would
include
in
that
base
service
that
you
could
put
out
a
certain
number
of
bags.
You
sent
me
that
information
and
then
that
could
be
placed
outside
of
your
container
and
it
might
be
trash,
it
might
be
green
waste,
it
might
be
bundles
of
tree
limbs
and
that
that
would
be
considered
part
of
the
base
service,
so
composting
and
or
green
waste
would
be.
On
top
of
that.
C
But
we
also
one
thing
that
does
affect
this-
that
we
have
already
discussed
and
decided
to
include
is
that
we
want
to
have
the
new
rfp
include
various
services
as
basically
pick
and
choose
so
that
we
we
could.
You
know
green
waste,
could
be
an
option
and
that
they
list
and
show
us
how
much
that
would
affect
the
price
composting
could
be
an
option
right,
I
mean
so
we
already
are
deciding
that
the
way
we
structure
the
new
rfp
would
be
that
these
things
could
be
presented
as
optionals.
R
Correct
yeah
and-
and
I
think
that's
going
to
be
my
next
task-
is
how
do
I
lay
that
out
in
a
format
where
I
could
bring
that
back
to
the
committee
to
take
a
look
at
to
look
at
all
those
options
and
then
it's
almost
like
an
a
la
carte
menu.
I
I
envision
where
you
can
pick
and
and
choose
what
different
options
you
want
to
put
together
as
a
package.
C
Well,
I
I
don't
know
who
else
might
want
to
discuss,
but
I'll
just
throw
out
what
my
suggestion
would
be.
I
I
would
suggest-
and
you
know
think
we
should
discuss
first
and
I
could
make
a
motion
as
such,
if
so
desired,
but
that
we
for
the
base
trash
service
require
what's
currently
standard,
which
is
what
I
sent
to
director
d'andrea
from
my
current
provider,
and
it's
been
the
same
that
I've
had
from
all
providers
for
20
years.
At
my
location,
I've
gone
through
four
providers,
but
at
least
five
separate
bags.
C
Next
to
the
tote
and
and
or
four
foot
length,
bundles
of
branches
and
my
current
provider
has
a
limit
on
that
of
four.
At
a
time,
I've
had
other
providers
that
have
allowed
for
basically
unlimited
four
foot
length,
bundled
branches
at
you
know
whatever
max
weight,
and
this
is
for
specifically
being
able
to
deal
with
yard
waste
whenever
it's
necessary
to
deal
with
it,
not
any
particular
time
of
year,
and
that
would
be
you
know.
C
Obviously
this
is
something
that
would
just
go
to
landfill,
it's
not
the
most
environmentally
great,
but
it's
to
keep
parity
with
what
people
are
already
used
to,
and
then
the
compost
and
green
waste
be
a
la
carte
options
that
we
have
structured
for
them
to
pro.
You
know
propose
what
that
would
cost.
On
top
of
it.
B
E
Response
to
carson's
request
that
there's
kind
of
a
they
pick
up
whatever
they
we
put
out
there
requests
keep
in
mind
that
this
is
a
an
rfp
for
at
most
a
96
gallon
container,
unless
of
course,
and
that
being
less
if
somebody
wants
a
smaller
container,
which
is
a
great
idea
and
answers
a
lot
of
the
concerns
addressed
tonight.
But
this.
H
E
At
most
96
gallons
at
each
home
day
at
a
time,
and
if
we
want
to
keep
the
cost
down,
we're
already
doing
the
alley
and
the
front
way
service,
we
can't
just
say:
oh
just
take
whatever
we
put
out
there
because
it
leads
to
the
problem
of
our
alley
trash
dumping.
So
I'm
gonna
say
that
this
needs
to
segue
to
two
different
conversations.
E
E
I
would
think,
and
in
fact
I
would
find
that
in
most
times
when
I
have
all
this
extra
trash,
it
has
a
lot
to
do
with
branches
and
trees
that
I
put
around
here
and
leaves,
and
that
is
in
all
the
cart
service
and
I
would
be
willing
to
pay
more
for
them
to
come
and
even
maybe
even
give
me
a
different
bid.
I
don't
know,
maybe
that
might
be
their
solution.
Give
us
a
a
greenway
spin,
give
us
a
composting
bin.
That's
our
all
the
cart
service.
E
As
far
as
putting
any
other
trash
out
there
here
in
lies,
the
rub.
You
can't
just
say:
oh
here's,
my
mattress.
Oh,
here's,
the
stuff
in
the
alley
and
that's
gonna-
have
to
segue
to
a
different
conversation
about
community
dumpsters
and,
and
I'm
gonna
take
this
opportunity
to
ask
that
I
thought
we
were
gonna
talk
to
code
enforcement
before
we
kind
of
when
we
were
in
this
discussion.
E
S
C
Well,
I
I
wish
director
d'andrea
had
included
what
I
sent
in
the
public
record.
I
think
it
deserves
to
be
in
the
agenda
or
I
could
share
my
screen
if
you
want
me
to
switch
to
it,
but
I
I
sent
like
what
the
current
policy
is
for
my
current
provider,
which
is
technically
served
by
waste
management,
but
it's
allow
for
trash
in
the
96,
gallon
toter,
plus
five
bags
beside
it,
also
branches
cut
to
four
foot
lengths
and
bundled
in
18
inch
diameter.
Four.
C
At
a
time
and
in
the
20
years
I've
been
in
my
house,
every
provider
I've
had
that
has
been
automatically
included
in
whatever
the
trash
costs.
So
currently
that's
provided
for
16
a
month,
but
and
it's
serviced
by
waste
management
so
arguing
that
waste
management
can't
provide
that
when
that's
their
current
service.
C
I
don't
I
don't
get
that
I
I
what
I'm,
what
I'm
an
advocate
for
is
not
reducing
the
service.
If
we're
going
to
take
away
choice,
we
can't
reduce
the
service
that
everyone
already
has,
because
every
provider
right
now
without
extra
fees,
takes
away
yard
waste.
And
it's
not
to
me,
it's
not
acceptable
to
increase
fees
or
create
a
need
for
scheduling
or
paying
for
anything
when
that's
the
way
it
already
is
included
by
everybody.
S
So,
for
the
sake
of
the
rfp,
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
think
through
whether
this
should
be.
You
know
just
included
in
the
base
or
like
an
a
la
carte
option,
because
it
kind
of
depends
on
the
price
you
receive,
whether
you
know.
Let's
say
we
get
bids
for
14
a
month
or
something
and
if
you
wanted
to
add
it
all
apart
for
like
two
or
three
dollars
a
month,
then
that
would
still
be
right
on
par
with
the
cost
we're
talking
here.
So
I'm
trying
to
think
through.
S
What's
the
best
way
to
structure
this
for
the
sake
of
the
rfp,
maybe
it's
both.
Maybe
it's
include
with
yard
waste.
As
you
know,
it
sounds
like
a
lot
of
the
haulers
are
doing
that
anyways
and
maybe
it's
also
without
an
a
la
carte,
because,
like
me,
for
instance,
I
don't
have
a
yard
waste
that
I
really
have
picked
up
much.
I
have
a
little
spot
in
the
backyard.
S
E
May
I
that
that's
getting
to
the
bottom
line,
carson
you
and
I
maybe
you
and
I
produce
more
waste
and
we
should
pay
more,
don't
you
think
then
say
some
of
the
citizens
we
heard
from
tonight
really
don't
go
through
much.
They
live
alone
little
old.
Ladies.
She
just
needs
a
32
gallon
container.
What
if
she
can
pay
ten
dollars
every
three
months,
and
then
you
and
I
we're
like
you-
know
what
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
I
want
to
get
the
recycling.
E
Where
do
we
kind
of
make
our
base?
What's
our
base
minimum
pickup
like
here's,
what
we're
bidding
on
and
here's
all
your
a
la
carte
services?
Added
on
what
sorry,
I
kind
of
thought
and
that's
why
I
said
it
that
our
96
gallon
container
was
that's.
What
they're
bidding
on
is
that?
How
we're
talking
about
is
that
how
we
want
to
structure
this?
Everybody.
B
B
I
don't
know
if
everybody
followed
that,
but
currently
there's
a
hauler
that
serves
only
a
portion
of
the
city,
because
we
have
multiple
haulers
active
in
the
city
and
they
have
these.
You
know
service
levels
that
carson's
indicated
include
extra
trash
outside
of
the
can,
the
rfps
that
we
got
not
only
do
they
cost
more
than
that,
but
they
also
don't
include
those
extra
services
that
he's
getting
right
now
at
his
base
rate
and
there
seems
to
be
a
disconnect
there.
I
don't
follow
why
it
would
come
back
that
way.
C
I
mean
the
possibility
of
why
the
their
base
rate
is
higher.
I
mean
the
main
possibility
is
because
we
required
alley
and
street.
We
know
that
that's
probably
a
bump
up
of
cost,
but
when
it
comes
to
like
I'm,
I
don't
feel
like
I'm
representing
just
me
and
the
truth
is
I
have.
I
could
get
away
with
a
very
small
trash.
Can
you
know
probably
96
of
my
pickups
a
year,
because
I
hardly
produce
any
trash
and
I
mostly
have
recycling.
C
Citizens
in
this
city
do
not
have
to
pay
extra
with
their
hauler
to
have
bundles
of
branches
and
bags
of
leaves
taken
away
those
couple
times
a
year
whenever
they
end
up
collecting
them
or
having
them
as
part
of
their
trash.
So
maybe
it's
specifically
yard
waste
I
mean.
Does
that
mean
they're
going
to
have
to
look
in
the
bags
and
see
that
they're?
It's
not
trash?
C
E
Well,
that's
why
we're
doing
this
rfp
because
and
we're
talking
about
not
so
much
waste
we're
talking
about
labor
people
gotta
get
paid,
get
out
of
the
truck
and
you're
right
with
that.
All
that
stuff
should
have
been
included
in
the
first
rfp.
It
was
a
disgrace
that
we
only
got
two
people
and
two
companies
and
that
the
price
was
higher
than
what
we
pay
now.
So
that's.
E
What
we're
here
to
do
is
how
to
get
this
cost
down,
and
in
in
lieu
of
that
that's
one
of
the
reasons
I
said
extend
the
contract,
because
what
we
have
over
time
with
the
cfi
that
we've
got
to
add
this
cfi
ppi
is
a
total
contract
value
that,
if
you
take
what
was
it,
let's
just
say,
a
thousand
subscribers
at
16
every
three
months
times
10
years.
This
is
a
contract.
E
You
guys
that
is
of
over
a
million
dollars
value
to
these
to
these
companies
and
that's
what
we
want
to
do
is
create
this
look.
You
can
have
all
this
business,
but
you
do
got
to
pick
up
all
our
stuff.
So,
if
that's,
what
we
got
a
structure
in
this
rfp
then
do
so,
but
I
just
don't
know
how
to
do
that
and
how
to
get
them
to
pick
up
the
three
mattresses
that
are
sitting
in
my
alley.
Right
now,.
S
Yeah,
I
I
would
I
agree,
we
should
be
offering
the
same
level
of
service
that
is
currently
offered
and
if
it's
currently
offered
I'd
love
to
see
the
specific
language
of
like
how
it's
defined,
so
we
can
try
to
match
that.
But
I'd
support
that
in
the
in
the
base
bid.
I
don't
if
it's.
If
it's
truly
currently
offered
by
all
the
active
servers
servicers
in
englewood,
then
I
agree
it
shouldn't
change
the
price
significantly.
S
I
still
think
you
could
probably
include
it
like
included
in
the
base
and
then
separately
as
a
la
carte
and
see
if
it
has
an
impact
on
price
proposals.
That's
probably
what
I'd
suggest
doing
just
so.
We
have
the
most
data
points,
but
I
don't
know
I'm
very
open,
but
I
agree.
We
should
maintain
service
level.
B
So,
just
to
clarify
it's
not
currently
offered
by
all
providers
in
england-
and
I
can
personally
attest
to
that,
because
my
republic
contract
is
very
much
here's
your
96
gallon
bin
fill
it
up.
If
you
do
it
costs
you
this
much
money,
if
you
don't
it
costs
you
this
much
money.
If
you
put
anything
outside
that,
96
calendar
we're
going
to
charge
you
for
it,
so
republic
is
very
no
frills.
Nothing
extra,
at
least
the
contract
I
have
with
them
is.
R
Yeah,
just
a
just
a
point
too,
if,
if
you
wanted
to
you
know
again,
if
the
the
point
is
to
keep
the
cost
as
low
as
possible
for
those
homes
who
do
have
extra
bags
on
a
regular
basis,
then
they
could
buy
another
can
or
rent
another
can
and
have
two
cans
available.
That
is
another
option.
So
then
they
can
put
in
trash
they
can
put
in
green
waste.
You
can
put
in
whatever
into
that.
Second
can
and
again
keep
the
base
service
as
low
as
possible.
C
Sense
carson.
Well,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
this
I
see
this
100
separate
from
large
item
pickup.
This
isn't
about
mattresses,
or
you
know
big
things.
This
is
about
what
is
and
and
chair
ward.
I
hear
you
republic
is
the
one
service
provider
I
haven't
had
in
20
years.
I
had
lee's
american
disposal,
waste
connections,
waste
management,
waste
services
and
they
all
include
this
in
their
base
service,
and
I
know
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
like
we
just
had
a
whole
bunch
of
members
of
the
public.
C
Speaking
out,
you
know
clearly
they
didn't
know
the
whole.
Not
everybody
had
been
informed
about
everything
that
is
actually
going
on
and
we
haven't
picked
anything
and
we're
not
forcing
anything
yet,
but
if
we're,
if
ultimately,
this
does
become
a
single
hauler
thing
with
you
know
these
limited
opt-outs.
C
We
are
taking
away
choice
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
do
have
leaves
they
have
to
pick
up
when
they
have
to
pick
them
up,
and
you
know
I
know
that
it's
been
talked
about
about
doing
green
waste
and
composting
and-
and
those
are
great
things
that
are
out
on,
although
so
far
green
waste.
We
haven't
had
an
at-home
pickup
proposal
for
that,
and
I
think
it's
ridiculous
to
require
having
to
take
it
somewhere
because
who
can
fit
it
all.
C
You
know
to
minimize
use
of
plastic
like,
but
people
need
to
not
have
this
taken
away
from
them
and
have
to
pay
extra
and
a
separate
container
is
not
having
to
pay
for
an
extra
container
year
round,
because
once
or
twice
a
year,
I
have
a
bunch
of
yard
waste
that
I
have
to
get
rid
of
based
on
the
city's
laws
of
keeping
the
sidewalks
clear
that
that's
not
acceptable
or
appropriate.
And
you
know
the
bundles
of
branches
wouldn't
fit
in
a
container.
C
E
Well,
carson,
don't
you
think-
and
this
is
a
question
for
you-
don't
you
think
that
these
companies
need
to
know
like
how
much
extra
waste
they
can
expect
to
pick
up
if
we
do
some
kind
of?
And
how
do
we
word
that
unlimited
branches,
instead
of
an
extra
96
gallon
container,
we
just
go
whatever
because
you're
talking
about?
Oh
you,
don't
we're
not
talking
about.
You,
know
mattresses
and
blah
blah
blah,
but
you
know
think
about
the
general
public
and
what
the
company's
been
asked
to
do.
E
C
It
it
is
defined
we
can
go
by
the
definitions
that
the
providers
already
provide
and
over
a
month
ago,
I
forwarded
director
d'andrea
the
specifics
of
what
waste
management
currently
includes
for
sixteen
dollars
a
month.
We're
not
talking
about
something
new,
we're
talking
about
what
they
already
know.
They
can
do
because
they're
already
doing
it
and
they've
been
doing
it
for
20
years.
This
isn't
new.
C
C
B
F
I
hear
what
you're
both
saying
remember
how
come
and
vice
chair
green.
Those
are
very
good
points
and
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
how
to
navigate
between
them.
Two.
We
can't
guarantee
that
the
respondents
of
the
next
rfp
will
offer
exactly
the
same
as
your
base
service
at
the
same
cost.
It's
up
to
them,
what
they
propose.
F
That
would
be
nice
and
we
can
ask-
and
we
can
hope,
but
I
don't
think
we
can
have
any
guarantee
that
that's
what
they
would
respond.
I
guess,
unless
we
specify
that
it
has
to
be
included
in
their
costs,
but
as
to
bring
this
point
that
may
lead
to
them
increasing
the
cost,
because
they
would
have
no
idea
about
actually
the
scale
of
how
many
bags
they're
collecting
how
many
of
their
workers
would
have
to
get
out
of
the
truck
etc.
F
So
I
don't
know
that
we
know
and
one
other
option
that
we
haven't
talked
about,
but
I'm
not
saying
I'm
advocating
for
this
yet,
but
an
option
is
extra
tags
that
each
household
could
be
given
as
part
of
the
contract
that
they
could
use
for
extra
leaf
bags
or
bundles.
When
they
choose
during
the
year,
I
don't
know,
if
that's
you
know,
10
bags
of
leaves
or
bundles
of
branches,
and
you
can
decide
whether
you
want
to
put
that
out
on
october,
7th
or
november
15th
or
what.
B
D
Yeah,
I
just
I
agree
with
carson,
because
I
have
a
huge
tree
in
my
front
yard.
I
mean
I
probably
use
about
20
bundles
and
I'm,
like
you
carson.
I
probably
don't
weigh
as
heavy
as
you
do,
but
I
do
stomp
on
them
to
stop
the
plastic
and
I
get
as
many
leaves
as
I
can,
and
I've
had
other
haulers
pick
up
as
many
as
I
put
out
there
and
I've
never
had
to
pay
a
dime
extra.
D
M
B
M
The
interruption
dean
glad
so
we
should
be
able
to
put
out
the
same
number
as
we
do
now,
and
the
nice
thing
for
the
haulers.
I
think,
is
it's
not
going
to
be
an
every
week
occurrence.
I
think
that
that
is
not
going
to
be
the
case
for
most
people
and
some
years
they
might
actually
only
get
it
one
time
a
year.
M
M
We're
really
not
talking
about
huge
numbers
of
days
that
they're
going
to
be
having
to
get
out
of
the
truck,
so
they
might
bump
up
our
cost
a
little
bit,
but
I
think
that
is
can
probably
be
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
amortized
over
a
course
of
a
year
that
it
won't
alter
our
cost.
That
much,
and
I
think
it's
a
reasonable
thing
for
us
to
consider
as
a
normal
amount
of
service.
M
M
M
And
it
definitely
has
specific
wording
to
it,
but
I
think
you
know
like,
even
if
you
I
don't
know,
say
you
had
to
replace
a
toilet,
nobody
wants
to
use
toilet
or
I
assume
nobody
wants
to
use
toilet.
But
you
know
you
should
be
able
to
probably
put
that
out
there
and
that's
one
thing
for
them
to
go
out.
But
again
it's
not
going
to
be
every
single
week.
M
B
E
Well,
you
know
that
was
just
my
only
point
really
agreeing
with
everybody
is
that
you
know
we
we
we're
going
to
get
stuck
in
these
definitions.
What
is
green
waste?
Is
it
a
christmas
tree?
The
christmas
tree
is
very
heavy
right
now
everybody
drags
them.
So
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
how
many
bundles
you're
allowed
to
have
we're
going
to
have
to
talk
about,
you
know
outside
of
that
container,
what
kind
of
waste
and
how
much
waste
and
all
that
specific
information.
E
B
C
C
Republic,
apparently,
is
the
only
one
who
hasn't
done
this
and
it
is
a
pretty
clear
definition,
and
I
would
and
I've
shared
this
now,
multiple
times
with
director
d'andrea
and
hoped
that
it
would
be
sent
out
the
first
time
I
shared
all
the
details
of
the
waste
services
plan.
She
did
share
that
with
you
all,
but
I
think
these
need
to
be
included
in
the
public
record
in
the
agenda
the
details
of
what
these
are.
C
So
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
make
my
motion
and
I'll
read
what
waste
management
is
currently
providing,
which
is
actually
lesser
than
it
used
to
be,
because
this
is
a
fewer
number
of
bundles
than
used
to
be
allowed.
But
it
would
certainly
be
enough
to
cut
up
a
christmas
tree
and
have
it
go
out
if
that
was
what
you
needed,
because
not
everyone
has
the
luxury
of
having
a
vehicle
large
enough
to
haul
a
christmas
tree.
C
C
So
you
know
I
guess
that
was
a
mix
of
opinion
and
motion.
So
the
motion
is
that
we
include
in
the
base
trash
service
allowance
for
trash
and
the
allow
whatever
the
size
tote
is.
So
let
me
back
off
of
that,
because,
obviously
we're
considering
having
different
size
totes,
so
the
motion
is,
I
apologize
for
all
the
reviews.
I'm
trying
to
make
it
simple.
The
emotion
is,
we
include
in
the
base
trash
service
up
to
five
additional
bags.
C
F
M
C
They
none
of
the
providers.
I've
had
have
specified
what
that
is.
I
know
that
it
always
ends
up
being
leaves,
and
you
know,
who's
gonna
have
five
extra
bags
regularly
of
anything
else,
but
I
don't
think
we
should
specify,
because
sometimes
people
clean
out
their
houses
and
have
a
bunch
of
trash
and
they
should
be
able
to
use
this
too,
and
the
providers
don't
specify
that
and
if
it
fits
in
a
bag,
then
it
should
be
okay,
because
that's
just
the
way
it's
been
and
that's
what
people
are
used
to.
B
B
C
F
H
D
A
B
F
B
C
What
you
said
remember
brinker
is
my
impression
as
well
and
and
what
I
would
also
be
for.
I
think
composting
and
green
waste
are
additional,
separate
services
that
we
should
try
to
get
as
optionals,
and
we
know
that
maybe
composting
provided
by
these
by
the
providers
that
can
do
waste
aren't
going
to
be
competitive
with
what
you
guys
found
with
that
other
company.
C
A
S
Yeah,
my
recollection
was
that
we
agreed
to
include
composting
as
an
add-on
option
optional,
for
people
to
pay
pay
more
and
opt-in
to
no
one
would
be
forced
to
compost
and
that
I
think
we
tried
to
make
it
as
flexible
as
possible
that
the
haulers
you
know
who
are
proposing
trash
recycling-
hopefully
many
of
them-
that
they
can
include
it
but
they're
not
forced
to
include
it
and
that
it
can
be
a
standalone
option
as
well.
I'm
trying
to
get
the
most.
You
know
options
possible,
hopefully
for
the
cheapest
price
possible.
R
Yeah
we
talked
about
just
what
member
frazier
just
said
is
that
we
can
include
it
as
an
option
and
see
kind
of
give.
Let
them
give
us
ways
of
how
they
would
structure
it,
whether
that
be
weekly
bi-weekly
and
if
they
don't
bid.
If
you
will
on
the
composting
that
we
would
not
penalize
them
for
that,
so
it's
kind
of
an
alternate
service
that
they
could
bid
on,
but
we
would
also
then
go
out
with
another
rfp
for
some
of
these
smaller
providers
who
might
give
us
a
better
deal
city
wide
on
that.
B
A
B
E
E
I
don't
think
people
have
a
good
idea
of
what
those
two
things
are
now
I
compost
my
green
waste.
I
do
both
I
take
the
stuff
from
my
I
take
my
coffee
filters
and
my
egg
shells
and
stuff.
That's
not
meat
and
I
put
in
a
little
container
by
the
fruit
by
the
sink
and
then
when
that
gets
filled.
I
take
it
out
to
the
back
and
it
goes
in
this
big
barrel.
A
E
E
There's
I
don't
think
there's
gonna
be
a
real
big
demand
for
composting
and
green
waste,
except
for
people
who
are
like
me
and
just
don't
have
a
bin
to
take
it.
So
at
best
it's
kind
of
like
a
little
32
gallon
job
that
you
might
do
with.
I
mean
really
what
you
want
to
do
is
you
want
to
compost
and
green
waste,
your
leaves
and
your
branches,
and
you
want
all
that
stuff
not
to
go
to
the
landfill,
but
now
we've
included
it
as
a
base
service
the
trash.
B
M
I
guess
it's
probably
for
maria
is:
is
it
possible
that
we
can
use
compost
and
green
waste
from
the
same
provider
or
does
it
sound
like
these
are
completely
separate
issues,
because
I
kind
of
get
the
idea
that
sometimes
they're
the
same
and
sometimes
they're
different,
because
I
think
in
the
last
rfp
we
were
talking
about
it
in
terms
of
was
there
you
know,
were
we
going
to
include
green
waste?
Well,
that
was
just
going
to
be.
M
You
know
just
leaves
and
branches
and
stuff
like
that,
and
then
compost
sounded
like
it
was
separate,
almost
like
more
just
food
waste
and
things
like
that.
Maybe
some
leaves,
but
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
include
in
a
rf?
You
know
the
second
rfp
for
composting
to
see
if
they
not
only
do
the
kitchen
scraps
things
like
that,
but
also
the
branches
and
things
like
that,
because
you
know
myself
personally,
I'd
be
fine
with
paying
the
extra
money,
even
if
it
was
included
in
my
base
service.
M
R
Yeah,
so
my
understanding
is
that
composting
is
basically
green
waste
plus.
So
just
as
member
hubka
was
just
talking
about,
you
can
throw
eggshells
in
there
coffee
grounds.
Anything
that
might
is
would
be
considered
compostable
or
could
break
down,
naturally,
that
you
wouldn't
throw
it
in
the
garbage.
Instead,
it
would
go
to
composting.
R
So
it
takes
more
effort
to
separate
your
garbage
even
further.
So
now
you're
recycling,
your
composting
inside
your
kitchen
most
normally,
but
but
then
it
would
be
plus
the
green
waste.
So
there
would
be
a
container
you
could
put
leaves
branches
whatever
in
there
and
that
would
get
picked
up,
plus
your
food
scraps
that
are
non-meat.
M
Okay,
yeah,
I
think
that
you
know
I
think
there
might
be
a
desire
out
there
from
people
to
actually
be
able
to
do
that.
You
know
it
may
not
be
very
big,
but
that's
the
nice
thing
about
having
this
second
rfp
is
that
those
of
us
that
really
do
want
to
do
that?
Can
work
towards
doing
that
and
can
organize
and
try
and
bring
it
about
from
the
city,
but
it
won't
necessarily
be
a
required
option.
I
think
that
that
is
is
very
reasonable.
B
M
S
I
think
we
made
this
motion
in
the
last
meeting,
I'm
fairly
certain,
but
my
motion
would
be
that
compost
be
a
non-compulsory
service
available
for
opt-in,
optionally
and
that
haulers
not
be
forced
to
offer
compost,
but
if
they
wish
to,
they
can
and
for
standalone
compound
compost
servicers
to
also
bid
just
for
compost.
So
I
believe
maria
said
that
would
be
a
separate
rfp.
B
C
M
C
S
S
C
That
would
be
potentially
things
people
pay
extra
for.
So,
if
you
wanted
to
pay
extra
for
having
your
bags
of
leaves
and
bundles
of
branches,
go
to
a
more
environmentally
friendly
place
and
jump
through
whatever
hoops
the
providers
require
for
you
to
do
that
because,
like
in
our
exist
our
previous
responses,
they
weren't
even
offering
that
at
your
home,
they
were
requiring
you
bring
it
somewhere.
So
that's
why
I
do
see
these
as
optional.
On
top
of
separate
from
what
we've
already
included
in
the
base
waste.
F
B
B
A
B
S
But
can
I
make
one
point-
and
this
is
the
last
thing
I'm
going
to
say
tonight
on
on
clarifying
the
bed.
I
think
we're
getting
lost
in
the
weeds
or
yard
waste
so
to
speak
here,
because
if,
like
denver,
you
had
a
big
compost
bin,
for
instance,
people
could
dump
their
yard
waste
in
if
they
choose
to.
Yes,
I
understand
you
could
leave
it
out
and
that
may
or
may
not
distance-levels
composting.
S
But
to
me
this
comes
down
to
like
the
size
of
the
pail
available
for
compost.
If
it's
a
big
bin
like
denver,
does,
I
think,
compost
colorado.
I
think
they
use
smaller
bins
for,
like
primarily
food
waste,
and
things
like
that.
So
these
are
things
I'd
probably
want
to
leave
up
to
the
haulers,
crafting
a
composting
bid
to
show
us
what
they.
B
C
Chair
award,
one
thing
supervisor
lewis
is
on
and
has
been
texting
asking
about
if
we
were
going
to
address
large
adam
pickup,
because
he's
here
he's
made
his
time
I
mean
we
may
want
to
just
hear
his
input
on
that.
I
don't
know
if
that
opens
a
big
can
of
worms
of
other
stuff
we're
already
over
time.
E
E
B
B
B
B
M
F
D
M
C
B
Right
so
the
first
order
of
business
at
our
next
meeting
will
be
to
hear
from
code
enforcement,
and
then
we
will
proceed
with
the
agenda.
The
rest
of
the
way
through
starting
with
public
comment
next
and
going
on,
of
course,
we'll
have
to
approve
the
minutes
of
this
meeting
and
do
our
routine
business.
Before
we
hear
from
mr
lewis.