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C
A
There
is
an
attendee,
but
oh
yeah,
it's
not
her.
Okay,
all
right!
Yeah,
let's
open
the
meeting,
will
you
please
take
roll
director
d'andrea.
A
D
C
B
And
that's
it,
you
have
a
quorum
mirror
chair.
A
Thank
you,
director,
d'andrea,
all
right,
so
we've
got.
Is
there
a
motion
for
approving
our
minutes
from
the
april
26th
meeting.
A
Did
anyone
have
any
corrections?
I
didn't
see
anything
okay,
let's
go
ahead
and
vote
on
director
d'andrea.
A
C
B
A
Thank
you.
We
will
have
recognition
of
public
comment,
I'm
not
sure
if
that
phone
number
is
remember
brown
or
not.
There's
a
phone
number
listed
as
an
attendee.
Now.
C
D
C
D
C
A
I
see
your
phone
number
listed
as
an
attendee,
but
it's
not
letting
me
switch
you
to
a
panelist
but
you're
on,
and
you
hear
us
you.
A
Okay,
so
please
update
our
role
to
include
that
she's
here,
director
d'andrea
and
then
we
have
one
member
of
the
public
with
a
hand
raised,
so
we
will
address
them.
Mr
marshall,
please
let
us
know
what
you'd
like
to
say.
F
Oh
hi,
thanks.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
thank
you.
Well,
I
was
just
hopefully
I'm
in
the
right
meeting.
I
just
did
it
off
the
website.
This
is
the
waste
and
recycling
meeting,
not
a
city
council,
meeting
right,
correct,
okay,.
A
We
reviewed
the
responses
to
it.
We
recommended
to
city
council
to
start
over
and
let
us
create
a
new
rfp
in
working
with
city
staff
and
that's
where
we're
at
today
in
our
packet.
If
you've
accessed
that
through
the
city
portal,
you
could
see
the
current
state
of
the
rfp
that
we've
been
working
on
request
for
proposal
and
we're
going
to
be
going
over
that
today.
So
that's
where
we're
at
and
then
ultimately,
what
we'll
be
doing
is
finalizing
an
rfp
that'll
go
out
to
haulers.
F
Well,
thanks
for
your
service,
in
doing
all
that,
I
know
that
working
after
hours
and
being
involved
in
the
city
is
sometimes
not
fun,
and
sometimes
you
get
shot
with
a
lot
of
arrows
without
being
able
to
do
anything
back.
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions
and
I'm
not
sure
what
the
structure
when
you
take
just
citizen
comments,
so.
F
Oh
okay:
well,
I'm
I've
been
a
citizen
of
eaglewood
for
several
years.
I
own
eight
pieces
of
property
in
inglewood
and
I
was
just
interested
in
hearing
what
the
purpose
of
I.
I
use
two
different
companies,
waste
connections
and
waste
management,
so
I'm
pretty
familiar
with
how
they
operate
and
their
costs
and
all
that-
and
I
was
wondering
what
the
purpose
of
the
city
stepping
in
to
become
the
kind
of
a
contractor
and
then
having
all
the
citizens,
use
one
company.
What's
the
purpose
of
that.
A
Well,
it's
a
mix
of
reasons
from
so
that
you
know
the
city
I
think
ultimately
started
with
wanting
to
reduce
traffic
on
the
alleys.
A
But
then
the
city
had
a
series
of
public
meetings
where
hundreds
of
people
showed
up
and
gave
their
input
director
d'andrea
conducted
those
and
took
the
input
and
then
not
led
to
you
know
the
city
creating
this
committee,
but
the
goals
have
been
you
know,
environmental
benefits
and
then,
as
well
as
improved
cause
citizen
service
levels
and
improved
citizen.
F
Well,
if
you,
if
you
improve
services
and
lower
costs
to
everybody,
I
think
that's
a
great
purpose
and
kind
of
mission
for
what
you
guys
are
doing
and
I'm
certainly
not
an
expert
on
any
of
this
other
than
I
unfortunately
use
these
guys
all
the
time.
So
I
really,
I
think,
when
you
guys
switch
to
forcing
the
trash
companies
to
go
into
different
parts
of
the
city
on
specific
days
that
certainly
helped
a
lot.
That
was
a
good
move
back
then
the
the
other
question.
F
I
think
that
probably
everybody
has
but
nobody's
really
people
talk
about
this,
but
aren't
paying
too
much
attention
to.
It
is
the
people
that
own
larger
pieces
of
property,
you
know
obviously
have
tree
branches
leaves
and
additional
trash
that
they
put
out
there
and
they
have
because
of
competition.
The
trash
companies
pick
it
up
and
don't
charge
you
extra.
Are
you
guys
going
to
continue
that,
where
you
know
everybody
has
to
mow
their
lawn
unless
they
are
in
a
condo
or
town
home?
I
guess,
and
how
does
that
work.
A
Well,
that's
actually
been
a
contentious
point
among
our
committee
here.
Currently,
the
state
of
I
mean
the
rf.
This
is
one
of
the
the.
We
know
that
all
all
three
providers
that
currently
provide
service
in
inglewood
currently
for
their
legacy,
customers
pick
up
bags
and
bundles
of
branches
when
left
out
next
to
the
trash
anytime.
They
are
as
part
of
the
service.
A
Of
course,
you
know
they
would
love
it
to
be
completely
automated
and
you
know
drive
their
profits,
but
where
we
stand
with
the
rfp
right
now
after
a
change
in
our
last
meeting
is
the
you
can
see
it
if
you
pull
up
the
the
rfp,
but
it's
a
an
a
la
carte
type
thing
we're
going
to
get
a
price
for
including
the
way
it
currently
is,
for
everybody,
with
five
up
to
five
bags
and
four
bundles
of
branches
included
in
the
base
price,
or
only
10
tags
for
a
total
of
10
a
year
per
resident
of
bags
and
bundles,
which
I
think
is
completely
insufficient
personally.
A
E
I'm
gonna
speak
up
here
this.
This
is
brenda.
The
this
this
portion
of
the
meeting
is
where
we
take
in
citizen
comments.
A
E
E
All
these
things
the
rp
goes
out
and
then
we're
gonna.
The
city
council
will
even
look
to
see
what
these
prices
are
and
we
can
get
and
you'll
have
a
lot
of
your
answers
then,
and
I
think
also
we
can
direct
citizens
to
the
information
that
we've
put
out
as
to
what
our
mission
is
and,
of
course
the
rfp
is
on
there,
but
I'm
sorry
interrupting,
but
this
isn't
really
a
forum
for
question
and
answer
to
go
everything
we
just
did
over
the
last
10
months.
F
And
I
don't
need
to
take
up
any
more
your
time
other
than
I
did
try
and
get
on
to
the
rfp.
And
it
says
you
have
to
have
a
password
to
get
into
the
I
compass
city
of
inglewood
to
get
the
rfp.
So.
A
E
Mean
I'm
in
the
portal
and
I
I
can't
get
in
it
either.
I
can't
get
any
attachments
or
anything.
So
I
do
think
maria
you're
gonna
have
to
look
at
that,
because
colleen's
email
is
you
sent
it
as
an
attachment.
We
were
able
to
read
it
earlier
in
the
week,
but
all
the
links
on
the
city
website
are
locked
in
a
portable
in
the
portal
document
center.
Okay,.
B
A
Yeah,
thank
you
for
pointing
that
out,
mr
marshall.
I
wasn't
aware
of
that,
or
I
would
have
brought
that
up
as
well.
A
There's
also
just
so.
You
know
the
city
has
you
can
submit
your
email
and
request
that
you
get
emails
about
meetings
and
interesting?
I
just
went
through
the
portal
and
I
certainly
don't
have
an
icompass
login
and
it
did
load
for
me.
So
I'm
not
sure
what's
why
why
it's
not
working
for
member
hubka
or
mr
marshall?
A
E
A
F
Very
much
for
I
did
send
you
guys
an
email
on
march
1st
and
nobody
ever
responded
to
it.
I
probably
put
the
wrong
email
addresses
knowing
me,
but
thanks
a
lot
for
all
your
effort
in
doing
this,
and
if
you
get
the
citizens,
lower
prices
and
better
service,
good
job
and
I'll
try
and
listen
in
on
some
of
these,
I'm
not
going
to
take
anybody's
time.
But
thanks
for
your
service.
A
Member
brown,
your
hand
is
up.
Did
you
want
to
ask
mr.
F
Well,
yeah
I
mentioned
earlier:
I
use
waste
connections
and
I
also
use
waste
management
because
I
have
multiple
properties
and
both
of
those
two
companies
pick
up.
You
know
your
grass
and
your
leaves
and
your
branches
as
long
as
your
branches
aren't
10
feet
long
or
anything.
If
you
cut
them
up,
both
of
them
seem
to
be.
F
You
know,
doing
a
good
job.
They've
never
asked
me
for
additional
fees
for
doing
that.
I
do
tip
the
guys
at
the
end
of
the
year,
at
both
companies
for
a
christmas
present
or
whatever,
but
yeah
both
of
those
two
companies
seem
to
do
a
good
job.
For
you
know,
trash
collectors.
F
Oh,
no,
I
I
think,
even
if
you
had
a
town
home,
my
properties
are
single-family
houses
and
townhomes,
and
I
would
say
the
average
for
grass
is
probably
like
two
to
four
bags
per
week
or
every
two
weeks
and
then
when
it's
fall,
probably
double
or
triple
that
so
it's
probably
maybe
should
be
closer
to
you
know
I
hate
to
say
it,
but
like
40,
not
10.,
and
I
don't
know
how
big
the
bags
are
either.
So
I'm
I
don't
really
know
what
you
guys
negotiated
or
talked
about.
E
Well,
yeah
we're
also
talking
not
going
to
be
including
units
of
of
clustered
townhomes
in
this
bid.
So
this
is
single
residents
only
the
reason
is
well
there's
a
lot
of
reasons.
E
We
went
over
that
with
some
of
the
vendors
but
like
if
you,
mr
marshall,
if
you
have
a
multi-tenant
building,
you'll,
probably
keep
that
same
contract
with
that
carrier.
F
Yeah
that
probably
makes
sense
well,
it
sounds
like
you
guys,
have
gotten
a
lot
of
information
and
you're
heading
a
big
project.
It
would
be,
I
think,
a
lot
of
people
would
want
to
make
sure
that
their
leaves
and
grass
and
all
that
are
picked
up,
and
if
the
prices
are
lowered,
everybody
that
would
be
great
and
if
the
service
stays
the
same
or
better
that's
kind
of
the
job
of
the
government.
I
I
personally
don't
like
the
government
being
involved
in
running
a
business.
F
G
Another
clarifying
comment
that
we
heard
that
at
least
one
of
the
major
provided
republic
does
start
for
every
extra
bag
or
bundle
outside
of
the
trash.
Can
that's
for
grandfathered
customers
as
well.
A
number
of
my
neighbors
have
them
and
they
say
yeah
every
time
they
have
a
bag
out.
They
have
to
pay
an
extra
3
and
50
cents
for
what
it's
worth
and
also
thought.
G
It
was
worth
mentioning
that
some
of
the
options
that
we
were
considering
for
yard
waste,
specifically
yard
waste
and
compost,
where
that's
an
extra
service
for
people
that
have
a
whole
lot
of
yard
waste,
but
participate
in
without
necessarily
dumping
those
costs
on
the
other
homeowners
that
don't
have
a
lot
of
yard
waste.
So
I
think
that
that's
an
option
that
is
always
worth
pointing
out.
F
A
A
Yeah
we
appreciate
your
input
all
right
and
then
we
had
so,
let's
I
don't
think,
there's
anybody
else.
Yeah,
there's
no
other
public
attendees.
So
we
also
have
the
emails
from
ca
dickerson,
which
I'm
not
going
to
read
them.
Everyone,
you
know,
has
access
to
those
and
can
see
them
she's,
pointing
out
that
you
know
questions
about
the
effectiveness
of
recycling.
A
I
would
just
say
for
citizen
dickerson,
if
you
have
like
some
proof
of
any
of
that,
please
present
it
to
us.
But
at
this
point
you
know
we
we
did
ask
these
questions
of
the
haulers
and
we
you
know
the
haulers
have
assured
us
and
that
at
this
point,
recycling
is
being
effectively
used
and
distributed.
A
G
Yeah,
what
I
remember
the
fallers
saying
is
that
almost
100
of
the
aluminum
cans
and
tin
cans
get
recycled
locally,
turned
into
new
beer
cans
and
that
almost
all
the
paper
does
as
well.
Almost
all
the
glass
does
and
then
the
place
where
it
gets
more
questionable
in
the
plastic
where
they
take
some
plastics,
they
don't
take
other
plastics.
They
used
to
take
more
plastics
than
they
do
now
because
of
china,
changing
their
policies.
G
So
a
lot
of
times
when
we're
hearing
recycling
doesn't
work,
it's
more
specifically
aimed
at
the
plastics
question,
but
they
still
do
take
and
process
and
sell
the
aluminum
and
paper
and
glass.
A
Right-
and
they
also
talked
about
how
a
lot
of
it's
even
being
recycled
into
products
within
our
state,
which
was
news
to
me
and
seems
pretty
positive
anybody
else,
anything
to
ask
or
say
about
the
written
public
comment:
okay,
we'll
close
the
public
hearing,
the
you
know
the
public
input
part
of
our
meeting
and
old
business
director
d'andrea
was
there
anything
that
you
wanted
to
address
out
of
the
previous
motions.
B
A
A
Don't
see
any
hands?
Okay,
so
let's
move
into
new
business,
and
I
I
would
like
you
to
walk
us
through
the
draft
director
d'andrea
and
I
know
I
have
notes
for
throughout
it
to
discuss
and
I'm
sure
other
people
do
too.
B
Can
you
all
see
my
screen?
Yes,
all
right,
yes
and
yeah
so
I'll
walk
through,
and
I
guess
just
stop
me
if
you
have
questions
or
want
to
make
comments
or
changes.
B
So
the
version
that
you
see
on
here
is
identical
to
the
one
that
was
sent
to
you
via
email,
I've,
just
added
draft
and
then
this
red
text
that
says
draft
for
for
review.
Only
so
that's
the
only
difference
from
the
version
that
you
received
a
week
ago,
friday.
B
Here
we'll
scan,
so
any
you
know
feel
free
to
point
out
any
like
typos
or
things.
You
know
like
these
page
numbers
we'll
come
back
and
correct
that,
at
the
end,
to
make
sure
that
all
matches
are
as
accurate
but
feel
free
to
point
anything
out.
G
I
I
emailed
oh,
maybe
half
an
hour
an
hour
ago,
some
really
my
a
lot
of
them
are
really
minor.
Things
like
like
typo
type
stuff
great.
I
don't
need
to
say
those
here
right,
I'll,
just
assume
you
got
those
over
email.
B
So
this
first
section
called
the
solicitation
is
just
talks
about.
You
know
what
what
we're
asking
for
basically
and
talks
about
how
the
contractor
shall
provide
all
the
personnel
equipment,
supplies,
facilities,
transportation,
etc,
etc,
so
that
they
can
come
back
and
say:
oh
well,
you
didn't
you
know,
say
this
specifically,
so
it
really
is
meant
to
encompass
all
of
the
elements
of
establishing
and
delivering
the
services
for
the
program
which
is
defined
as
residential,
solid
waste
and
recycling
collection
and
disposal.
B
C
Yeah,
the
first
paragraph
in
the
solicitation
section
didn't
include
customer
service.
I
know
it's
it's
inferred,
but
just
a
thought
to
add
that
yep,
I'm
going
to
oops.
B
B
B
A
B
Yeah
we'll
go
through
a
little
bit
in
the
timeline
here,
but
it
does
allow
for
this
is
a
multi-year
service
term
subject
to
annual
appropriation,
meaning
that
the
city,
this
is
our
standard
language,
is
because
of
tabor
and
other
state
statutes.
We
cannot
enter
into
multi-year
contracts,
but
instead
it's
it.
It's
assumed
to
be
a
multi-year,
but
it's
subject
to
annual
appropriation,
meaning
that
each
year
during
the
budget
cycle,
the
city
council
might
consider
not
allowing
funds
to
move
forward.
B
B
A
B
Yeah
yeah,
for
whatever
reason
we
don't
give
any
reasons,
really
just
that
I
guess
again,
it's
a
typical
term.
Typically,
that
can
be
usually
60
or
90
days.
So
I
I
did
double
it.
C
Yeah,
that
was
a
cause
for
concern
for
me
as
well,
just
because
how
long
it
took
this
committee
just
to
get
through
an
rfp
was
much
longer
than
six
months.
If
it's
standard
language,
it
is
what
it
is
right.
Just
it's
just
is
it
required.
B
It's
not
required,
so
you
know
we
could
we
can
delete
that.
I
think
here's
my
delete
button.
B
A
Yeah
I
mean
I'm
with
remember
quanade
on
that
too,
like
it.
So
much
effort
has
gone
into
this
and
the
whole
point
of
getting
a
10-year
deal
would
be
to
you
know
if
if
the
city
agreed
to
do
it
that
there
would
be
benefit
to
the
citizens
of
you
know,
service
levels
and
costs
and
if
they
could,
if
the
you
know,
if
the
other
side
has
an
out
without
cause
at
any
point,
then
that
really
takes.
I
don't
know
to
me.
That
seems
like
a
bad
deal
for
citizens.
E
But
yeah,
because
if
we
were
to
cancel
in
the
agreement,
say
the
city
decided,
we
would
have
to
prove
cause
otherwise
we'd
be
on
the
hook
for
the
whole
10
years.
E
Yeah,
that's
not
that's.
I
mean
the
other
they're
gonna
want
their
ten
years.
You
know
of
of
total
contract
value
I
can
see,
but
yeah.
I
don't
think
they
would
agree.
C
E
B
B
In
the
rfp
last
time
too,
just
fyi
so
yeah.
E
But
it
doesn't
make
it
a
good
deal
yeah
and
it
was
only
five
years
and
we
got
terrible
prices
and
we
only
had
two
competitors
go
into
it.
So
you
know
we
want
as
many
competitors
as
possible,
but
and
we
want
to
keep
the
cost
down
they're
going
to
want
to
make
sure
that
they
get
all
their
cost
back.
If
we
cancel
in
three
years,
the
whole
point
was
them
investing
so
that
they
get
10
years
worth
of
the
total
contract
value
over
10
years.
A
Yeah
I
mean
another
aspect
of
that
is
if
they
think
they're
getting
a
10-year
contract
and
they're
investing
in
equipment
and
we
can
cancel
without
cause
at
any
point
and
just
screw
them
like.
I
don't
yeah,
that's
going
to
hurt
them,
so
it's
not
good
for
citizens.
It's
not
good
for
the
haulers.
Remember
brinker.
A
Yeah
or
commonly
you
do
have
a
set
of
four
cause
like
if,
if
they're
not
fulfilling,
if
you
know,
if
they're
constantly
not
fulfilling
the
service
levels
and
and
people
aren't,
you
know,
citizens
aren't
happy
citiz
city's,
not
happy
and
they're,
not.
You
know,
they're
not
doing
what
this
what
the
contract
says
they're
supposed
to
do,
then
we
should
be
able
to
cancel
it,
but
if
they're
doing
what
they're
supposed
to
do
and
the
city's
you
know
paying
for
it
or
you
know,
citizens
of
pain,
yeah,
all
right.
C
B
I
think
vice
chair
boarman
has
his
hands
up
too.
Oh.
A
A
H
And
so
we're
gonna
have
to
try
and
figure
out
what
those
sort
of
things
would
be.
You
know
if
it's
customer
service
issue,
if
it's
you
know
certain
performance
of
you
know
recycling
that
doesn't
occur.
If
something
I
don't
know,
I
think
that
that's
where
we'll
have
to
explore
what
what
the
reasons
for
cause
are
as
a
part
of
our
future
conversation.
E
A
Yeah
I
mean
the
contract
specifies
all
the
things
they
have
to
do,
and
I
I
mean
I
think
it's.
It
would
be
a
straightforward
legal
thing
to
put
into
the
contract
that
if
they
consistently
don't
fulfill
what
they're
obligated
to
do-
and
they
have
you
know-
say
they
have
30
days
to
fix
it.
But
if
they
you
know
over
and
over,
don't
you
know
if
they've
multiple
times
or
how
you
know,
lawyers
are
going
to
be
able
to
put
that
in.
A
It
and
then
yeah.
We
don't
need
to
come
up
with
all
that,
but
there
should
be
a
definition
of
you
know.
City
has
to
notify
hauler
if
they're
not
satisfying
the
agreement,
and
then
they
have
so
long
to
correct
and
if
they
don't
correct,
then
city
has
right
for
cause
to
terminate
etc.
That
kind
of
thing.
A
B
Okay,
so
this
next
paragraph
talks
about
that,
you
know
we
we
encourage
options
and
variables
to
the
scope
and
that
we
want
to
encourage
innovative
ideas
as
well.
So
there
is
a
section
within
the
response
proposal
where
they
can
mention
those,
and
then
we've
also
awarded
some
points
if
they
were
to
come
up
with
some
of
those
innovative
ideas.
B
So
this
is
kind
of
an
important
point
upon
submission.
All
documents
shall
become
and
remain
the
property
of
the
city,
and
so
if
there
is
for
some
reason
that
there's
the
difference
between
the
hard
copy
and
the
electronic
copy,
the
hard
copy
shall
prevail.
So
for
some
reason
you
know
it
says
thirteen
dollars
in
the
digital
copy
and
the
hard
copy
says
fourteen
dollars,
we
would
go
with
the
fourteen
dollars.
A
B
C
B
They
do
have
the
option
of
withdrawing
their
offer
and
writing
at
any
time
prior
to
the
deadline
for
submission.
So
let's
say
the
deadline
was
thursday.
They
would
have
up
until
the
time
on
thursday,
even
if
they
had
physically,
given
us
their
package
of
materials.
B
To
take
that
back
and
say,
here's
a
new
one,
then
as
soon
if
it
was
2
p.m,
on
that
thursday
at
2
p.m.
If
we
hadn't
received
a
new
one
or
if
we
and
whatever
we've
got
at
that
time,
is
basically
what
we
have
so
up
until
that
time
they
could
be
switching
them
out
over
and
over
again
again,
it
kind
of
goes
back
to
the
hard
copy
version.
B
So
any
offer
received
and
not
withdrawn
shall
be
considered
an
offer.
So
it's
really
upon
the
respondents
to
say
yep,
you
know.
If
we
submit,
then
we
are
going
to
consider
this
a
reasonable
bid
or
a
proposal,
and
we
can't
you
know
even
if
they
sent
us
an
email
afterwards
or
called
us
it'd
be
like
no.
We
don't
want
to
be
considered
too
late.
B
You
know
you,
you've,
you've
already
passed
the
deadline
and
then
we
basically
we've
got
120
calendar
days
to
look
at
those
review
those
and
make
a
decision
just
like
we
did
last
time.
If
you
recall
you
know
we
decided
to
terminate
or
or
reject
the
proposals
rather
than
accept
one
in
that
120
calendar
days.
B
And
then
we
just
had
the
right
to
waive
informalities
and
minor
irregularities,
and
that's
really
a
discussion
that
if
things
like
that
should
come
up,
that's
in
conjunction
with
the
city,
attorney's
office
who's.
Looking
at
that,
so
then
this
paragraph
five.
So
sometimes
there
may
be
information
that
the
respondent
would
consider
confidential.
B
It
might
be
their
way
of
service
delivery,
something
else
it
can't
be
their
prices.
That's
not
a
confidential
element
of
the
proposal,
but
there
may
be
something
that
they
wish
to
not
have
their
competitors
see,
and
so
we
would
ask
that
that
be
written
out
specifically
of
why
they
believe
the
material
is
confidential,
and
then
we
would
be
the
judge
of
that
as
to
whether
that
is
acceptable
or
not,
and
so
then
it
comes
back
to
what
do
we
make
available
to
the
public.
B
So
we
can,
you
know
as
soon
as
we
receive
those
those
become
a
public
document
and
anyone
can
request
those
to
review
those
so
competitors.
Anything
like
that.
So
last
time
we
did
not
have
anything
that
was
more
confidential,
but
you
know
that
we
are
leaving
that
open,
because
there
may
be
that
option
for
people
to
do
that.
A
I
didn't
see
the
exclusion
of
them
trying
to
specify
price
as
confidential.
B
A
C
B
Substantive
proposals,
so
again
respondent
is
certifying
that
the
proposal
is
genuine
and
is
basically
on
behalf
of
the
firm
that
they're
representing
and
that
they're
not
there's
an
anti-collusion
exhibit
that
they
have
to
sign
as
well.
But
basically
like
it
says
here,
it's
not
a
sham
proposal.
Director.
A
D'andrea,
I
don't
want
to
make
you
have
to
read
the
whole
thing
or
explain
everything.
I'm
sorry!
No!
It's
okay!
I
really
appreciate
you,
you
know
being
willing
to
do
it
that
way,
and
I
don't
want
to
rush
anything,
but
I
also
don't
want
to
like
yeah.
You
know
waste
time,
so
maybe
just
kind
of
like
go
through
each
section
just
and
just
give
everyone
a
chance
to
raise
their
hands
if
they
have
any
input.
C
A
C
A
B
That
was
that's
one
of
the
attachments
contract
award
of
how
we
would
go
about
awarding
the
contract,
and
then
a
notice
to
proceed
is
actually
a
written
letter
that
we
send
to
the
contractor
once
that
contract
has
been
signed
and
we've
received
the
insurance,
the
bonds,
all
the
other
necessary
documentation
to
allow
them
to
start
the
work,
we
also
offer
a
debriefing.
B
B
A
B
C
B
All
right
so
order
precedence,
that's
pretty
pretty
straightforward,
so
you
see
the
highlighted
sections
here
are
the
dates
so
once
we're
ready
to
issue
I'll
fill
those
in,
but
basically
we
have
a
mandatory
pre-proposal
conference,
so
that
means
they
have
to
attend
at
least
one
entity
for
if
you're
planning
to
submit
a
proposal
at
least
one
person
from
that
entity
has
to
sign
in
we're
still
planning
to
do
that
virtually
right.
Now,
then,
we
have,
as
I
said
here,
a
question
deadline.
B
So
typically
we'll
set
that
for
a
couple
of
weeks
after
the
pre-proposal
meeting
to
give
them
some
time
to
review
it,
have
that
mandatory
pre-proposal
and
then
give
them
some
time
for
questions
and
then
within
usually
about
a
week,
then
we
have
the
response
to
when
those
questions
are.
I
should
highlight
this
when
those
responses
are
posted
on
bidnet,
so
that
answers
their
questions,
and
then
everybody
can
see
that
then
this
is
when
the
proposal
would
be
due
and
then
just
how
to
submit
that.
So
again,
late
proposals
not
be
accepted.
B
You
know
they
got
in
an
accident
and
the
way
to
delivering.
That
is
really
not
there's.
No
excuses,
so
it's
up
to
them
to
make
sure
that
they
deliver
that
ahead
of
time
and
that
we
don't
accept,
fax
or
email.
It
has
to
be
a
hard
copy
proposal.
B
Then
we
have
a
little
disclaimer
here,
so
respondents
are
not
permitted
to
make
any
direct
or
indirect
contact
with
members
of
the
selection
committee.
I
would
include
the
this
committee
in
that,
including
the
city
council
and
staff,
our
media
sites.
They
add
staff
in
there
too,.
B
Okay,
this
just
gives
some
information
about
the
city
overall,
just
kind
of
you
know
general
information,
then
this
talks
about
how
we
get
to
that
9
600
units
number
and
gives
them.
I.
A
C
E
Well,
I'll
just
respond
to
that
I'll.
Give
him
a
little
I'll
defend
him
a
little
bit.
A
city
does
better
when
young
people
are
moving
in
for
a
while
englewood
in
the
70s
became,
and
we
lost
cinderella
city
because
everybody
moved
out
and
went
to
the
suburbs
and
they
went
to
south
flynn
and
southwest
plaza.
E
E
It's
just
some
nice
wording
that
you
put
into
it
into
us
into
a
document.
I
I
really
would
get
make
an
issue
out
of
that.
You
know.
D
Yeah,
I
don't
I
agree
with
you,
chair
green.
I
don't
think
it
should
be
in
there
at
all.
C
B
All
right
program
goals-
this
is
these-
are
what
we've
talked
about
since
the
beginning.
Is
these
were
established
again
even
prior
to
the
last
rfp
any
comments
on
those
or
changes.
A
C
D
That's
okay.
I
didn't
mean
to
interrupt
you.
I
have
a
problem
with
it's
saying,
providing
overall
financial
savings
to
city
residents.
D
I
don't
understand
how
that's
possible
when
you
are
adding
an
administrative
fee
to
the
bill,
you
are
or
not
you
I
don't
mean
you
specifically,
but
that
the
recycling
has
to
be
mandatory
and
I
have
read
through
the
whole
rfp,
but
I'm
still
concerned
about
those
10
bags
where,
if
people
are
going
to
use
more
than
10
bags,
it's
going
to
cost
them
more.
So
I'm
not
understanding
why
we
even
have
that
in
there,
because
it's
not
going
to
be
an
overall
financial
savings
to
city
residents.
A
Well,
remember
brown,
it
may
or
may
not
be,
but
it
it
that's
just
a
goal.
At
this
point
I
mean
that
is
a
you
and
I
and
everybody
else
we
want
it
to
be
cheaper.
We
want
the
the
cost
to
be
better,
but
this
is
not
part
of
the
terms
of
the
agreement.
So
and,
and
overall
financial
savings
was
a
goal
expressed
by
citizens
in
the
wider
meetings
and
at
least
it's
in
there
as
a
goal
and
since
that's
a
goal,
let's
keep
it
in
as
a
goal,
because
we
want
that
to
be
a
goal.
C
C
My
thing
with
the
having
these
seven
points,
I
think,
would
be
really
important
to
focus
in
on
these
on
the
scoring
sheets,
so
it
kind
of
ties
all
the
way
back
to
the
end
right,
but
at
least
it
gives
us
a
north
star
to
be
able
to
say
hey.
This
is
what
we
agreed
upon
10
months
ago
as
our
goals,
and
how
are
we
measuring
up
against
that.
A
Good
point:
a
vice
chair,
borman.
H
Yeah,
I
agree
with
member
kawanabe
that
we
we
don't
need
to
relitigate
this
sort
of
stuff.
This
is
all
definitely
just
a
goal.
You
know.
Maybe
we
can
put
it
in
terms
of
a
priority
level
or
something
like
that,
but
one
of
my
big
goals
was
always
to
give
most
of
us
savings,
and
I
think
still
that
16
is
a
waste
management
scam
just
trying
to
keep
us
from
doing
this.
To
be
quite
honest,
I
think,
they've,
you
know
created
way
services
to
undermine
the
possibility
of
this
committee.
A
Interesting,
okay:
let's
keep
going
then
director
d'andrea.
B
All
right,
so
here's
the
schedule
again
just
this
date
will
change
based
on
the
actual
date
of
the
rfp,
but
assuming
this
there's
basically
work
forward,
giving
appropriate
time.
So
I
know
we
had
heard
from
one
of
the
I
think
at
least
one
of
the
haulers
that
they
wanted
more
time.
So
last
time
we
had
given
them
five
weeks
to
respond
this
time,
I'm
doing
looks
like
eight
so
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there.
B
Then
we'd
hold
some
public
meetings
again.
If
this
stays
on
that
schedule
and
then
we'd
have
those
discussions
with
council
in
early
part
of
2022
and
then
start
the
service
we'd
give
them
basically
about
six
months
between
when
we
approved
the
contract
and
the
start
of
service,
and
that
would
be
education
to
the
community.
B
Setting
up
those
you
know
getting
the
bins
in
place
right
at
the
end,
but
it
takes
a
lot
of
effort
to
basically
within
that
time
period
to
go
live.
If
you
will
on
that
october.
First
date.
B
Right
so
no
questions
on
the
schedule
again,
we'll
we'll
make
sure
that
works
out
once
we
get
to
the
actual
submental
date.
So
here
we
talk
in
the
scope
of
services
about
solid
waste
and
just
how
we
want
that
processed
talking
about
developing
a
five-day
schedule.
B
B
Then
we
have
the
here's
where
we
get
into
those
disposal
costs,
so
the
tipping
fees
we
had
talked
about
that.
This
is
where
I
included
that
as
they
can
either
have
the
option
of
including
that
in
their
fee
or
that
they
will
use,
and
if
they
don't
include
it,
then
we
would
use
this
estimated
amount.
So,
basically,
we
can
compare
costs
between
haulers.
H
B
Yeah,
so
I
had
if,
when
we
when
we,
we
initially
created
a
list
of
questions
for
the
two
haulers.
B
If
you
recall
that
was
one
of
the
questions
I
had
asked
them
and
they
had
both
estimated
it
at
10
000
tons
and
then
just
asking
you
know
like
how
much
do
you
think
our
community
would
generate,
and
so
then
I
used
that
times
the
tipping
fee
that
at
the
oxford
station
just
to
get
in
that
rough
ballpark.
H
B
H
A
B
A
A
B
A
H
No,
that's
pretty
much
it.
I
think
that
yeah
something
of
the
word,
and
so
we
don't
end
up.
You
know
being
on
you
know,
kind
of
picking
a
company
and
then
being
like,
never
mind.
Actually,
it's
going
to
be
150,
000,
yeah.
B
Right
so
we
talk
about
both
alley
and
street
side
still
pick
up
within
the
same
block
collection
of
garbage
outside
of
the
container.
So
this
is
that
idea
of
we'd
either
have
limited
or
unlimited
pickup
outside
the
container,
and
the
cost
proposal
includes
both
of
those
options.
B
A
All
right
they
got
hands
up
vice
chair
borman,.
H
Yeah-
I
was
just
thinking
about
this
because
we
didn't
really
address
this.
If
we
do
end
up
with
going
with
10
tags,
I
think
we
need
to
define
how
much
buying
more
tags
would
cost
and
I'm
maybe
I
misheard
while
I
was
in
the
car,
but
I
felt
like
somebody
said
that
they
knew
how
much
additional
tags
were
costs.
G
Yeah
I
heard
for
a
republic,
it
was
350,
but
we
also
got
a
bid
for
that
from
waste
management
in
our
original
rfp.
We
asked
them
both.
What
will
it
cost
for
additional
bags
that
aren't
included
here,
and
I
think
that's
probably
what
we
should
do
here
too?
What
would
you
charge
for
additional
bags
that
aren't
included
here
in
either
option.
A
A
H
Yeah,
I
just
think
we
should
try
and
define
more
along
the
lines
of
like
you
know,
because
what,
if
we
do
the
10
bags,
because
you
know
we're
talking
about
the
possibility
of
some
people
having
you
know
minimal
property
and
almost
no
trees
hell?
I
lost
all
my
trees
in
the
first
year.
I
was
here
and
so
we've
got
you
know
ones
that
are
seven
feet
tall.
H
I
don't
have
normally
any,
but
I
sort
of
was
thinking
along
the
lines
of
like
we
say
how
much
would
it
be
to
buy
ten
additional
bag
tags?
A
Not
that
they
don't
expire
at
the
end
of
the
year
sure
remember
kawanabe,.
C
C
Thank
you,
gotcha.
Okay,
remember
brown,
good.
D
A
That's
how
the
rfp
is
laid
out
right
now
as
we're
saying
that
the
haulers
have
to
provide
an
option
for
both
of
those
and
clearly
the
unlimited
will
be
more
expensive
and
they'll,
and
since
we
know
the
haulers
want
to
push
that
out,
they'll
probably
price
that
high
to
make
it.
So
it's
you
know
untenable.
G
I
think
that
those
tags
can
be
rolled
over
like
was
suggested.
I
also
think
they
could
be
traded
or
given
to
your
neighbors,
so
they
wouldn't
be
applied
to
a
specific
year
or
address,
and
then
for
properties
that
do
have
a
whole
ton
of
waste,
whether
that's
yard,
waste
or
otherwise.
G
We
do
already
have
the
option
where
they
can
get
another
bin,
another
96
gallon
bin
and
therefore
the
the
properties
that
do
have
a
lot
of
extra
cash
would
pay
for
that
extra
trash
and
the
properties
that
have
almost
no
cash
wouldn't
have
to
subsidize
those
others.
And
personally
I
like
that
better,
we
purposely
got
a
small
house.
We
faded
out
all
our
grass
for
low
water,
flowers
and
ground
cover
it
looks
gorgeous
and
I
don't
have
40
bags
a
year
of
yard
waste.
A
D
Yeah,
I'm
just
thinking
about
my
myself
and
my
neighbors.
I
have
a
huge
yard
and,
as
I
said
the
last
meeting,
I
have
a
huge
tree
and
when
mr
marshall
spoke,
I
mean
he
was
saying
the
same
thing
he
had.
He
has
trees,
so
I
mean
just
to
mow.
My
lawn
is
five
big
black
bags
and
I
can
punch
them.
I
can
push
them
in
and
all
of
this,
so
I
use
five
bags
a
week.
D
So
in
other
words,
here
we
go
again
with
more
money
that
now
I'm
gonna
have
to
get
a
96
gallon,
which
I
can't
push
to
put
my
lawn
clippings
in
or
my
branches
or
my
gardening.
You
know
I
do
a
lot
of
gardening.
I
have
a
lot
of
gardens
which
also
helps
the
environment
by
the
way.
So
because
I
like
to
keep
my
lawn
clipped
and
my
trees,
you
know
in
a
good
order.
D
A
Got
outvoted
I'm
with
you
we're
at
where
we're
at
everyone
else
wants
it
this
way,
so
we're
kind
of
stuck
vice
chair,
borman.
H
One
thing
I
was
thinking
too,
is:
if
we
do
go
with
the
unlimited
one,
I
think
we
should
specify
that
the
person
just
in
case
we
do
the
pay
as
you
throw
you,
have
to
elect
to
get
the
96
gallon
bin,
because
that
way
again,
we
kind
of
talked
about
this
beginning
where
it
was
like
if
they
got
the
32
gallon
trash
bin,
and
then
they
could
put
five
bags
or
four
bundles
or
whatever
next
to
it.
H
I
just
think
we
need
to
specify
that
that
would
have
to
go
along
with
the
96
gallon
trash
service.
A
A
A
E
No,
no
it's
that
spring
and
I
just
want
to
get
through
this.
I
didn't
raise
my
hand.
A
A
Yeah,
but
we're
not
going
to
get
a
price
that
makes
it
work
for
unlimited
or
just
the
five
bags
and
four
bundles
like
they
all
currently
provide
when
we're
giving
them
an
option
to
not
do
that
they're
not
going
to
make
that
competitive.
I
mean
that's,
that's
guaranteed.
I
hope
you
know.
I
would
gamble
on
that.
E
B
A
Did
you
give
us
attachments,
f
and
g?
I
didn't
see
them.
A
B
B
Okay,
okay
and
then
you
can
buy
an
or
rent
an
additional
96
gallon
if
you
want
program,
opt
out.
So
this
is
a
question
I'd
like
to
discuss
further,
so
we
had
talked
about
that
all.
B
So,
if
you
recall
the
the
two
proposals
at
least
one
of
them
required
that
whether
the
person
was
opted
in
or
not,
they
still
had
to
pay
that
minimum
service
rate,
which
was
ever
whatever
that
base
level
of
service
was
so
even
if
they
weren't
getting
the
service.
Well,
at
least
the
city
had
to
pay
the
contractor
for
those
costs.
B
So
what
I'm
saying
here
is
that
you
know
what
we
talked
about
is
that
for
the
oh,
that's
an
incomplete
sentence,
so
for
the
first
year
of
the
program
that
all
households
have
to
opt
in,
if
you
recall
and
then
so,
they
would
essentially
pay
that
minimum
service
rate
to
the
contractor
in
that
first
year.
But
then,
after
that,
we
wouldn't
want
contractors
to
still
pay
that
minimum
to
have
the
assumption
that
all
households
pay
the
minimum
service
rate.
How
do
you
all
feel
about
that.
B
E
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
what
the
question
is:
are
we
giving?
Are
we
only
asking
citizens
to
pay
the
opt
out
rate
for
one
year
out
of
a
out
of
a
five
seven
or
ten
year
contract?
B
Go
ahead,
oh
I'm
sorry,
I
think
what
I'm
asking
is.
So
if
we
got
a
proposal
like
one
of
the
two
before
that
said,
I
don't
care
about
your
opt-out
program,
we're
still.
If
you
have
9600
households
we're
going
to
charge
you
9
600
times
whatever
that
our
our
rate
is.
Are
you
guys
comfortable
with
that,
or
do
you
want
to
eliminate
those
types
of
proposals
from
consideration.
A
A
E
A
No
problem
director
d'andrea,
I
had
one
other
thing
on
the
previous
page
at
the
top
collection
locations.
A
B
A
H
D
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
put
this
on
the
record.
I
know
it's
not
going
to
change
anything,
but
I
am
really
disappointed
that
we
have
this,
that
we
are
making
people
opt-in
for
a
year,
because
citizens
aren't
going
to
have
a
vote
in
this
apparently,
and
so
I
am
totally
against
this,
but
that's
just
my
opinion
and
I
want
it
on
there
for
the
record.
B
Something
there
thanks.
This
is
very
helpful
to
have
all
of
these
eyes
on
this
yeah.
I
bet
so
we
talk
about
again
so
now
we're
getting
into
recycling.
That
was
the
garbage
portion.
This
is
recycling
how
we're
gonna,
where
we're
gonna
pick
up,
that
they
must
be
so,
shall
or
must
be
transported
to
a
licensed
material
recovery
facility
and
then
again
the
weighing
before
and
after
so
we
can
get
actual
tonnage
and
that
we'll
be
submitting
those
those
records
to
the
city
on
a
monthly
basis,
recycling
containers
of
varying
sizes
actually.
C
A
H
Sure
yeah
I'm
reading
under
the
recycling
containers
part.
It
says
the
contractors
play
each
residence
with
one
recycling
container.
Unless
they
opt
out
of
the
recycling
program.
H
B
C
A
B
C
B
All
right,
so
large
item
bulk
waste,
so
we
talked
about
as
the
base
service
and
again
this
highlighted
portion
I'd
like
to
talk
about.
That
is
that
they
would
perform
two
annual
pickups
to
each
household
and
that
they
would
have
to
do
that
at
curbside
or
in
the
alley,
so
just
proposing,
as
our
two
previous
ones
did
to
do
it
in
a
park
or
a
nearby
facility
where
people
had
to
haul
them
to
somewhere
else
is
not
acceptable.
B
H
This
was
actually
one
of
my
thoughts,
too.
Is,
I
think,
because
the
problem
with
like
programmatic,
I
think,
usually
makes
me
think
that
we'll
say:
hey
yeah,
we're
gonna,
have
a
large
item
pick
up
in
march
and
in
november,
and
I
think
what
we
really
need
to
have
is
tags.
So
you
have
two
items
per
or
two
large
items
to
be
picked
up
per
household
and
again
it
should
be
something
that
should
be
able
to
be
exchanged
between
households.
A
A
To
me,
like
the
the
drop
off
for
yard
waste
or
for
large
item
pickup
is
ridiculous
drop.
You
know
the
whole
point
of
it.
Is
you
know
you
can't
put
you
don't
you're,
not
gonna,
put
that
in
your
car.
A
You
can't
fit
it
or
you
don't
want
it
in
your
car,
so
I
I
agree
with
you
on
rejecting
and
we've
already
gone
through
that
as
a
group,
we've
rejected
the
drop
off
possibility
for
large
item
and
for
yard
waste,
but
making
this
super
expensive
thing
that
nobody
currently
has
a
requirement
while
we're
taking
away
the
service
level
everyone's
currently
used
to
in
regard
to
yard.
Waste
makes
no
sense
to
me
like,
and
I
don't
know
where
you're
go
ahead.
Remember
brinker!
I
know
you
wanted
to
talk
about
this.
G
If
we
do
have
tags,
that
would
maybe
address
my
concern,
but
I
was
thinking
that
when
we
discussed
it
before
it
would
be
an
option
that
we
would
consider
once
we
got
the
pricing
in
it'd
be
part
of
our
menu
of
options
and
we'd
see
what
the
cost
is
compared
to
the
benefits,
and
this
was
one
thing
I
noticed
how
it's
written.
It
seemed
like
we're.
Absolutely
definitely
going
to
do
this
for
sure,
so
I
would,
I
would
rearrange
it
instead
of
having
it
in
the
base
class.
G
A
E
It
sounds
to
me
like
we're
just
asking
them
and
they
have
to
because
remember
in
the
last
vid
we
didn't
get,
I
think,
a
cost.
We
they
just
just
didn't
even
answer
the
bid.
If
you
remember
the
problem,
we're
trying
to
solve
is
people
from
out
of
the
city
dropping
off
large
items
in
our
city
for
us
to
deal
with
which,
if
you
remember
from
our
us
talking
to
officer
lewis
of
code
enforcement,
is,
is
somewhat
of
a
problem.
You
know
they
they
they
adopt.
E
E
I
offered
to
give
him
my
van,
but
no
the
point
is
that
the
proposal
says
it
has
to
include
a
cost
for
large
item
bulk
pickup
or
at
ally
or
the
curbside,
but
you
can't
gloss
over
it
and
not
just
provide
it.
That's
the
way
I
read
this
part
of
the
contract.
Am
I
right
maria.
B
Yeah,
I
think
this
was
part
of
the
intent
to
have
this
in
the
base
service
was
to
because
of
exactly
what
you
talked
about.
Member
hubka
is
that
people
have
large
items
and
how
do
they
dispose
of
them,
and
so,
while
that
might
not
be
a
service
currently
offered
through
their
garbage,
you
know
it
was
a
key
concern,
because
you
know
either
the
city.
B
It
falls
to
the
city
staff
to
pick
that
up
and
ultimately
those
costs
go
back
to
all
homeowners
or
homeowners
are
left
on
their
own
to
deal
with
either
their
own
items
or
their
or
people
like
you
said
who
just
happened
to
drop
them
at
their
property.
So
I
think
my
question
is
yeah.
Do
we
want
to
insist?
I
think
we
want
to
have
some
sort
of
large
item.
Both
ways
pick
up.
B
B
I
know
that
for
a
fact
they
do
this
in
commerce
city,
so
you
can
put
items
you
know,
I
believe
it's
up
to
three
or
four
out
at
the
curb
and
on
a
particular
weekend,
they'll
come
through
and
do
like
one-third
or
one-fourth
of
the
city
on
a
particular
weekend.
So
it
is
possible,
but
I
think
then
I
yeah
I
put
that
alley
or
curbside
to
avoid
that.
Well
now
I
have
to
figure
out
how
to
haul
it
to
the
park.
You
know
it's
three
blocks
away.
B
C
C
G
I
sound
like
no
one
wants
to
haul
it
across
the
city
and
you
can't
always
fit
in
your
car
anyway.
So
that
seems
like
mostly
an
agreement
on
that
mm-hmm,
but
I
I
don't
know
if
it
has
to
be
in
the
base
service
or
it's
more
of
a
formatting
thing
that
here
and
in
the
charts
further
down
below
where
they
fill
it
out.
It's
additional
it's
additional
menu
item.
Where
once
we
get
the
pricing
we
can
look
at,
is
that
worth
the
cost
to
residents
or
is
it
too
expensive?
G
So
I
think
it's
just
more
of
a
more
of
a
formatting
thing
for
now.
Remember.
C
D
I
was
just
thinking
that
if
this
dries
up
the
price,
as
you
said,
chair
green,
then
why
can't
we
have
something
like
I
don't
know
like
talk.
You
know
when,
when
you
have
like
say
a
mattress,
that's
been
thrown
in
the
back
of
your
property
that
the
consumer
pays
for
them
to
pick
it
up.
I
mean
can't
we
do
it
on
an
individual
base
like
that,
instead
of
making
it
part
of
what
we're
paying.
A
Yeah,
especially
considering
it's
not
something
that
anyone
currently
has
this
is
this
is
a
new
service
that
none
of
the
providers
currently
provide
and-
and
I
think
it's
more
than
formatting-
we
have
it
in
here
as
a
required
base
thing
and
the
and
the
structure
of
it
being
you
know
too
annual
so
is
that
is,
is
the
way
that
that
is
written.
Is
your
interpretation
of
that
director
d'andrea
that
each
citizen
gets
two
single
large
item
pickups
at
their
discretion?
B
No,
I
was,
I
had
written
it
such
that
it
would
be
two
events
per
year
where
you
could
put
out
up
to
x
a
number
of
things
at
your
curb
or
in
the
alley.
B
A
Like
I
I
mean-
and
I
would
I
would
ask
the
rest
of
the
committee
to
consider
that
not
everybody
does
have
a
zero
escaped
property
and
hundreds,
if
not
thousands
of
residents
in
this
city
currently
are
used
to
being
able
to
have
their
yard
waste
picked
up
when
they
mow
their
lawn
to
move
us
to
standard
level
of
yard
waste
and
make
this
that's
a
more
complex,
more
expensive
thing
that
is
currently
not
provided
be
something
that
they
have
to
provide,
but
that
the
way
they
provide.
A
It
is
a
paid
thing
that
that
citizens
have
the
right
to
request
a
large
item
pickup
and
they
will
pick
it
up
within.
You
know
a
period
of
time
and
it
costs
x
and
they
have
to
pay
for
it,
because
that's
not
that's
going
to
drive
the
cost
up
way
more
than
the
standard
service
of
yard
waste.
E
E
Yeah,
why
don't
we
just
see
what
the
price
is
like?
You
know
we
can
always
say
hey.
We
can
go
through
this
for
another
year,
because
the
reason
we
did
that
we
did
put
out
an
rfp
we're
doing
this
again.
If
we
get
rfcs
that
are
just
beyond
what
we
even
pay
now,
then
we're
probably
just
going
to
toss
this
whole
thing.
E
But
if
we
get
some
prices
in
here,
it
at
least
give
us
an
area
to
go,
and
we
can
say
you
know
what
let's
do
an
rfp
again
and
let's
take
out
this
and
do
that
I'd
say:
let's
rather
than
relitigate
this
again,
let's
see
what
we
get
mostly
as
written
here
and
then,
if
it's
really
going
to
cause
a
lot
of
tears
and
bloodshed,
because
the
prices
are
terrible,
then
we
can.
We
have
at
least
a
better
idea
and
some
data
and
prices
with
which
to
pick
and
choose.
E
Maybe
we
can
you
know
I
think,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you
might
even
say:
oh,
don't
forget,
ally,
you
know
I
mean
it
could
be
anything.
What
we're
doing
is
we're
throwing
a
whole
bunch
of
there's
a
throw
step
of
the
dartboard
here.
You
know
and
I
think
that's
a
good
idea.
Let's
see
how
much
this
step
all
costs,
let's,
let's
go
for
the
big
kahuna
and
then
once
we
get
prices
we
really
could
put
out
an
rfp
yet
again.
A
A
G
Thanks
jer
green,
I
I
want
to
see
if
we
might
be
able
to
stay
on
topic
for
the
large
item.
Pickup
and
I
I
don't
know
I
want
to
say
really
respectfully
if
we
could
move
on
from
the
yard
waste.
I
feel
like
it's
been
mentioned
50
times
today
and
maybe,
if
you
want
to
try
to
undo
the
motion
and
resubmit
a
motion
then
do.
But
otherwise
I
don't
want
to
spend
two
hours,
just
re-litigating
that
but
well.
A
G
So
can
we
discuss
large
item
pickup
then,
and
on
that
topic
we
don't
know
if
it'll
drive
the
cost
until
we
get
the
prices.
So
that's
why
I
was
hoping
it
would
be
one
of
a
menu
of
options
rather
than
in
the
base
costs,
and
it
sounds
like
almost
everyone
is
okay,
with
at
least
that
minor
step.
E
G
G
Had
that
the
large
item
pickup
would
be
in
our
menus
of
options,
as
I
read
through
the
motions,
the
plus
ones,
it
didn't
look
like
we
had
voted
for
it
to
be
a
base
service.
It
was
an
option
where
we
would
get
the
pricing
and
we
would
look
at
the
pricing
once
we
get
it.
But
having
said
that,
if
you
do
want
to
take
it
out
and
make
a
motion
for
any
house
hold,
that
has
a
large
item
they
pay
for
that
large
item.
H
I'd
be
totally
okay
with
us
just
making
this
an
optional
sort
of
thing.
You
know,
I
thought
that's
kind
of
what
we
had
had
where
we
kind
of
like
we
were
talking
about
it
as
one
of
the
a
la
carte
options
where
we
have
the
ability
to
say
you
know
we
have
our
base
price
of
just
our
trash,
our
recycling
and
then
the
large
item
was
like
you
know,
we'll
determine
whether
that
is
a
value
added
to
our
community.
H
A
A
None
of
them
have
the
ability
to
do
it
all
of
them
said
they
don't
want
to
do
it
and
they
don't
do
it,
whereas
they
all
do
do
the
other
thing
and
we're
setting
up
the
rfp
so
that
we're
not
going
to
get
a
good
price
for
the
current
level
of
service
I'll
stop
on
it.
I
know
you
guys
hear
that
I
think
you're
going
to
have
a
massive
pushback
once
citizens
know
about
it,
because
that
is
current
service
level.
So
I
agree
this
was
intended
to
be
an
a
la
carte.
A
A
B
Yes,
I'm
sorry,
I
just
looked
at
the
the
motions
again
and
you're
right
it's.
It
was
all
a
card,
so
my
fault,
so
I
will
reword.
A
A
So
how
are
you
thinking,
you'll
reward
it
so
it'll
be
an
a
la
carte
option
that
they're
required
to
pro
to
provide
an
option
for,
and
it
would
be
two
events
per
year
per
person
on
a
particular
day
or
two
tags
per
person
that
they
could
use
when
they
have
a
large
item,
because
we
did
hear
from
at
least
one
hauler
that
it
would
be
easier
if
it
was
a
tag
based
system.
So
they
don't
have
to
do
large
items
throughout
the
entire
city
all
at
once.
A
They
can
just
when
someone
has
a
large
item,
they
you
know
put
in
their
notice
that
they
have
a
large
item
and
they
use
one
of
their
tags
and
then
it
gets
picked
up.
I
mean
I
do
think
that
that
makes
more
sense,
it's
better
for
citizens
because
they
can
use
it
when
they
need
it,
and
I
do
think
that
if
we
could,
you
know
it
would
be
a
fantastic
inclusion,
if
that
was
part
of
the
base
thing,
that
each
citizen
had
up
to
two
a
year
and
they
roll
over
et
cetera.
H
Yeah,
I
just,
I
think
we
leave
it
as
a
as
an
option
with
I
like
the
idea
of
the
tags,
because
it
did
sound
like
they
would
be
happier
with
our
ability
to
you
know
because,
like
if
I
don't
know,
I
replace
a
toilet
or
something
like
that
or
whatever
you
know
that
way.
I
can
put
it
out
that
one
time
notify
him
leave
the
put
the
tag
out
there.
H
You
know
it
goes
away
as
necessary
without
you
know,
because
if
I
replace
the
toilet
in
february
and
the
next
events
in
august,
you
know
I've
got
a
toilet
sitting
out
in
the
alleyway
or
in
the
backyard
which
which
might
be
an
interesting
fishbowl,
but
otherwise
you
know
I,
I
think
it's
a
a
worthwhile
sort
of
thing
for
us
to
do
the
tags
where
people
can
elect
when
they
use
them
and
then
that
way
they
also
can
let
the
haulers
know
you
know
not
that
I
had
you
know
a
bathtub.
A
A
A
Because
that's
when
we,
you
know
actually
get
leverage
benefit
or
if
we
just
make
it
to
where
they
have
it's
a
price,
and
they
tell
us
what
the
price
is,
then
that
price
is
probably
going
to
be
pretty
high.
You
know,
personally,
I
don't
care
about
this
one
I
like.
I,
don't
want
it
to
make
the
price
overall
price
high,
but
you
know
to
a
lot
of
citizens.
It's
probably
a
pretty
important
thing.
Member
brinker.
A
But
you
do
get
that
if
we
made
it
required,
then
it
would
get
a
better
deal
because
they
they
have
to
include
like
say
we
make
it
where
they
have
to
include
two
per
citizen
per
year
and
then
be
beyond
the
two
items
per
citizens
per
year.
They
have
a
price
like.
C
A
From
a
negotiating
perspective,
that's
how
you
would
get
a
better
deal
for
citizens.
If
you
just
said:
don't
either
don't
sup,
don't
offer
it
or
give
us
a
price
for
it.
They
could
just
give
us
a
huge
price
that
nobody's
going
to
want
to
go
for
and
then
then
we're
not
even
using
our
leverage
as
a
city
to
get
a
better
deal
for
citizens.
G
You
can
put
it
right
in
the
category
of
of
paid
service
or
you
can
put
it
below
that
where
they
tell
us
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
for
two
free
tags
per
resident,
and
I
think
that
cost
would
be
the
same,
but
in
one
and
if
it's
part
of
the
base
price
price.
It's
the
committee
thing
for
sure
this
is
going
to
happen.
It's
part
of
the
base
service
and,
if
it's
lower
down,
then
we
could
actually
consider
as
part
of
our
venue.
A
A
B
So
the
way
I'd
set
it
up,
can
you
guys
see
my
screen?
It's
now
a
spreadsheet,
yeah.
Okay
was
that
if
we
did
this
with
the
large
item
pickup
event,
two
events
per
year
that
you
could
put
out
in
one
event
each
event:
you
could
have
10
days
of
garbage
three
of
these
listed
items
and
10
yard
waste
bundles,
so
grass
clippings
branches
whatever,
then
I
also
requested
a
price.
B
If
you
wanted
to
pick
up
a
sofa,
you
know
a
bag
of
debris
and
then
I
think
I
had
down
here
extra
yard
waste
as
well.
So
that's
the
way
I
had
it
set
up.
So
I
think
if
we
went
to.
G
Oh
for
me,
and
then
also
can
you
grow
up
after
you're
done
with
your
thoughts?
Sorry,
no
go
ahead.
Can
you
scroll
up
to
the
previous
page
that
has
the
base
service?
Oh
yeah,
okay,
okay,
so
line
11
okay
is
is
where
it's
included
in
the
base
service,
and
I
was
suggesting
if
we
want
to
go
this
way,
moving
line,
11
cutting
it
out
of
there
and
putting
it
further
down
in
this
list
on
the
same
page,
it
wouldn't
be
part
of
the
base
service.
A
And
my
point
is
that
it
it
forces
them
to
to
inc.
You
know
when
you
were
I'm
looking
at
it
from
a
negotiation
perspective.
If
you
make
it
separate
and
then-
and
they
don't
want
to
do
it-
they
just
put
a
big
price
on
it,
but
if
we
make
it
part
of
the
base
service,
then
you
know
this
is
applies
to
anything
not
just
this.
C
A
E
All
right,
so
I'm
gonna,
I
would
love
you
for
leaving
it
in
because
18
percent,
you
know,
as
officer
lewis
said
about
18
percent
of
the
population-
calls
with
just
caused
them,
so
they
don't
even
know
how
many
people
dump
mattresses
and
stuff.
They
just
know
they
get
about
of
all
their
complaints.
They
get
about
18
of
the
public.
Now
the
price
get
rid
of
a
couch
is
anywhere
from
75
to
100,
so
in.
In
effect,
physicians
are
already
paying
on.
E
E
E
You
know,
but
we
do
have
a
problem
to
solve
for
citizens,
and
that
is
the
dumping
of
large
items,
and
it
can
be
sometimes
it's
a
500
bill
because
they're
not
just
dropping
one
mattress
back
here
in
my
alley
they
dropped
three
mattresses
on
the
citizen.
I
just
lucked
out
that
they
didn't
pick
my
property.
It
was
very
random.
It's
not
like
this
one
guy
who's
doing
all
this
construction
work
and
woohoo.
He
gets
his
construction
materials
all
the
way.
That's
probably
false
steps
outside
of
the
scope
of
this
work.
E
Anyway,
I
think,
when
I
think
that's
covered
in
and
building
permits,
they
have
to
have
their
stuff.
That's
another
discussion,
but
really,
my
point
being
that
I
do
want
to
keep
working
on
solving
the
problem
of
dumping
large
items
and
I
think
leading
in
the
base
price.
Does
that.
H
Yeah,
I
guess
I'm
sort
of
torn
on
taking
it
out
or
leaving
it
in
there,
because
I,
I
understand
your
point,
chair,
green,
about
the
possibility
that
they
could
just
super
jack,
the
price
so
that
it
makes
it
untenable
to
us.
H
But
it
might
actually
make
sense
too
that
we
leave
it
in
the
base
price
level
partially,
because
I
just
happened
to
notice
that
we
had
the
possibility
of
it
might
solve
our
two
problems
where
you
were
concerned
about
the
yard
waste,
because
we
could
they
could
pick
up
to
10
bags
of
of
yard
waste.
Does.
C
C
A
All
right,
I
move
that
we
keep
the
large
item
bulk
waste
pickup
in
in
the
base
price,
not
as
an
event
but
as
a
to
not
as
an
event
in
that
it
only
happens
on
a
certain
day
but
as
a
two
event
per
citizen
per
year
tag
system.
So
it's
the
same
things
you
have
what
they
can
use
in
an
event
and
they
get
two
of
them
that
they
schedule
with
the
hauler.
A
A
B
H
B
Yes-
and
I
had
member
kawanambe-
is
the
second
on
them.
A
H
A
Okay,
thank
you.
We
are
at
7
54
and
I
think
I
know
that
I
have
more
notes
on
the
rest
of
this,
so
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
continue
this
in
our
next
meeting
and
I
also
personally
I'm
being
interviewed
by
city
council
at
8
20.
So
I've
got
it.
A
I've
got
to
be
done
by
8..
Remember
hubcap,
did
you
have
something
else,
your
hands
up.
A
So
I
don't
know
what
we
can
get
done
in
the
next
six
minutes.
Director
d'andrea
is
there
another
part
you
could
go
over
or
let's
actually,
let's,
let's
close
out
this
part
of
the
meeting
and
we'll
pick
up
at
this
point
in
our
next
meeting.
That's
all
right
and
then
let
me
get
back
on
our
agenda
scheduling
our
next
meeting.
A
I
I
we
haven't
received
it
formally,
but
just
putting
this
out
there,
I
have
personally
been
hearing
from
people
who
are
frustrated
with
our
meetings
being
during
city
council
study
sessions.
So
you
know,
but
I
don't
know
what
we
could
do
about
that.
I
mean
we've
all
been
able
to
regularly
meet
every
two
weeks
on
this
schedule.
I'm
not
saying
we
should
change
it
or
shouldn't
I'm
just
sharing
that
I've
gotten
feedback
that
I
when
I
get
feedback
I
tell
people
send
emails
to
director
d'andrea,
so
it
goes
into
the
packet.
A
I
don't
want
to
be
a
a
vessel,
for
you
know
the
subset
of
public
I
deal
with
so
I,
but
we
haven't
officially
heard
anything
so
I'm
just
putting
that
out
there,
so
it
as
our
current
schedule.
Our
next
meeting
would
be
on
the
24th
is
that
a
city
council
study
session
director
d'andreadina.
A
Okay,
so
I
suggest
we
meet
then.
Unless
anyone
wants
to
do
it
differently,
is
there
anyone
who
cannot
meet
then?
A
A
This
other
communications
did
anyone
want
to
talk
about
that?
Did
you
want
to
say
anything
about
it?
Director,
deandrea
the
city
of
facility,
recycling.
B
Yeah
I
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up,
because
I
wasn't
clear
or
wasn't
100
sure,
on
what
the
requirement
in
our
sustainability
plan
said.
So
I
just
provided
that
link
for
reference.
So
it
does
talk
about
that.
We
need
to
encourage
more
recycling
at
city
facilities,
so
basically
by
employees
and
at
city
events.
A
Right
and
that
I
saw
it's
incorporated
in
the
rfp
as
well,
so
we'll
get
to
that
when
we
get
to
that
part
all
right,
then,
let's
be
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Everyone
thanks
all.