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A
Yes,
my
my
headset,
I
apologize
my
headset
just
broke
because
I
was
trying
to
join
the
meeting.
I
had
to
run
out
and
get
my
gorilla
tape
which
is
holding
it
together.
That's
my
only
mic.
I'm
sorry
yeah,
it's
like
sitting
pretty
weird,
but
hopefully
this
will
work.
A
Looks
like
we
have
a
quorum?
Okay,
let's
please
start
the
meeting.
Will
you
please
take
roll
director
d'andrea.
A
C
C
C
A
Thank
you
vice
chair
borman.
Is
there
a
second
I'll?
Second,
this
is
kanji
thanks
member
kanabe.
Will
you
please
take
the
vote
on
that
director
d'andrea.
A
D
B
E
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Now
is
the
part
of
our
meeting
where
we
take
recognition
of
public
comment.
I
see
we
have
one
phone
number
attendee,
if
you're
someone
a
citizen
who
and
then
they
just
disappeared
on
me
or
did
you
move
them
over.
A
B
No,
I
just
updated
it.
We
did
have
one
motion
at
the
may
10th
meeting,
so
I
added
that.
A
B
We
had
gotten
through
the
large
item
pickup
two
weeks
ago,
so,
let's
scroll
up
here
a
little
bit
so
we're
going
to
look
at
two
vouchers
per
household
per
year.
I
had
the
emotion
in
the
minute
so.
A
B
This
is
the
section
where
we
talk
about
providing
services
for
city
facilities,
so
we,
this
is
just
a
list,
so
we,
the
city,
would
pay
for
their
own,
but
we
thought
we'd
lump
it
in
with
this
contract
so
that
the
we
get
a
a
price
and
then
it's
the
same
hauler,
basically
as
servicing
the
city
facilities
as
the
rest
of
the
residential.
B
So
these,
what's
shown
here
in
the
table,
is
the
dumpsters
that
are
currently
provided
at
this
facility
and
then
how
often
they
should
be
serviced.
So
in
that
first
line
there
at
the
civic
center.
We
have
currently
two
eight
cubic
yard
dumpsters
and
they
should
be
emptied.
We're
saying
one
time
per
week
and
similarly
yeah.
A
A
A
I'll
try
and
be
more,
let's
see.
Oh
no,
I
appreciate
your
your
level
of
detail,
but
I
also
don't
want
to
like
make
you
have
to
go
into
too
much
detail.
What
to
me.
What
stood
out
on
this
was
just
making
sure
that
this
wasn't
included
in
the
cost
that
we're
evaluating
against
for
citizens.
B
A
C
A
F
A
So,
are
you,
are
you
suggesting
that
it
be
broken
out
differently
or
what
are
you?
What
do
you
want
to
see?
Yep.
F
So,
as
a
line
item,
a
separate
line
item
to
see
that
what
the
the
city
is
paying
for
this
as
well
in
addition
to
what
the
individual
folks
are
paying,
I
think
at
the
end,
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
how
much
benefit
the
servicers
are
going
to
get
right,
because,
if
they're
not
currently
servicing
the
city
services,
then
they
get
an
additional
benefit
for
being
the
single
hauler.
F
F
A
F
A
Okay,
do
either
of
you
have
an
idea
for
a
motion
for
that,
because
I
think
that's
good.
We
should
have
this
and
let
me
ask
director
d'andrea
to
ensure
that
this
portion
is
separated
from
what
is
counted
for
what
citizens
pay.
For.
A
B
So
this
is
for
city
waste
and
recycling
collection,
so
it'd
be
all
of
those
eight
listed
sites
per
month,
so
there'd
be
a
cost
for
that
again
for
the.
B
Yeah,
so
the
five
seven
or
ten
year
contract,
so
we
could
break
it
out
per
site
and
that's
both
in
the
base
bid
and
the
pay
as
you
throw
options,
so
those
costs
would
be
separated,
at
least
so.
We'd
know
how
much
the
city
would
be
responsible
for.
A
B
At
your
concern,
member
quan
kamanabe.
F
Maybe
I
don't
understand
the
line
I
know
is
it
is
that
line
2
39
all
city
services
lumped
together.
Yes,.
F
F
B
Well,
we
break
this
out
as
a
separate
cost.
So
let's
say
we
get
a
invoice
we'd
want
them
to
invoice
us
separately
for
the
city
facilities.
I
could
put
certainly
put
this
on
a
separate
tab,
so
it
doesn't
appear
like
when
we
add
up
these
columns
that
that
is
included
in
the
base
price.
I
could
certainly
do
that.
A
Well
and
it
and
we
could
kill
two
birds
with
one
stone
if
you
separate
that
out
and
you
make
it
line,
items
per
location
because
then
assuming
we
can
get
what
their
those
locations
are
currently
paying,
we
can
see
what
benefits
to
the
city
or
not.
There
would
be
like
member
brinker
and
remember
quanah
they
asked
for.
Is
there
any
reason
we
couldn't
do
that.
C
D
Yeah,
I
was
just
I
think,
separating
it
on
a
different
tab
is,
I
think,
a
good
idea,
because
that
way
also
we
can
compare
what
is
the
city
currently
paying
for
their
trash
and
recycling
services
versus
what
hopefully,
with
a
single
hauler?
It
is,
and
maybe
it
becomes
like
a
not
an
automatic
thing
that
that
we
have
to
select
the
same
hauler
for
all
of
it.
It'd
be
great,
but
okay,
yeah
to
separate
it
out
a
little
bit.
A
B
I
can
find
that
out.
I
don't
have
those
those
bills
aren't
paid
through
public
works
right
now,
but
we
can
get
that.
A
All
right,
well,
okay,
and
then
I
think
a
hand
went
up
and
then
down
and
then
remember,
brown.
E
I
was
just
wondering:
does
the
city
pay
for
recycling
at
this
time?
Yes,
we
do.
E
Okay,
because
I
I
was
just
wondering
because
all
the
you
know
the
the
bins
that
they
have
in
front
of
city
hall.
I
mean
where
do
they
put
their
recycling.
E
B
The
so
we
back
in
the
loading
dock
of
let's
say
the
civic
center.
We
have
a
separate,
separate
bins,
two
bins
for
trash
and
one
bin
for
recycling
and
most
of
our
recycling
comes
from
the
inside
the
building
itself.
So
at
people's
desk
or
near
you
know
like
break
rooms
or
lunch
rooms
where
you
can
put
pop
cans
or
paper
a
lot
of
paper.
Obviously,
and
so
we
recycle
it
that
way,
and
our
custodial
staff
will
pick
that
up
in
a
separate
container
and
then
dump
it
in
the
in
the.
A
B
Yeah,
that's,
as
we
talked
about
last
meeting
that
is
part
of
the
strategic
plan,
is
to
encourage
more
recycling,
so
part
of
that
is
putting
out
the
bins
in
public
places
to
allow
for
that,
and
then
our
custodial
staff
would
pick
that
up
and
dispose
of
it
or
put
it
in
the
recycling
bin
similar
to
if
you're,
in
an
office.
But
we
have
not
gone
there
yet.
A
I'd
like
the
city,
waste
and
recycling
collection
portion
to
be
separated
in
the
the
cost
or
this
excel
file,
whatever
it's
called
to
a
separate
tab
and
then
broken
out
per
site
and
request
that,
to
the
greatest
accuracy
you
can
you
fill
in
what
those
are
currently
paying
so
that
we
can
see
what
savings
or
not
ends
up
in
the
proposals,
and
the
part
that
goes
to
the
rfp
does
not
have
to
include
those
current
prices.
D
I
have
a
quick
comment
just
why
do
we
care
about
it
per
site?.
A
Well,
as
brought
up
by
member
kawanabe,
it
gives
us
a
chance
to
see
if
it's
actually
a
savings
or
not.
D
D
I
just
what
I
don't
know
seems
like
busy
work.
I
you
know
I'd
be
missing
something,
but
I
just
figured
you
know
as
long
as
we're
not
you
know
as
long
as
we're
comparing
apples
to
apples
in
terms
of
the
whole
city
being
or
the
the
city
facilities
being
addressed,
I
don't
know
why
it
matters
that
we
do
site
by
site.
F
A
Not
I'll
accept
that
friendly
amendment,
so
instead
of
the
per
site
breakout
everything
else
with
the
to
provide
the
information
so
that
you
know
we
and
citizens
can
see
the
comparison
of
what
what's
current
and
then
what
the
proposals
have,
but
not
broken
out
by
site,
ideally
showing
any
difference
in
service
levels
as
well,
because
I'm
assuming
that
this
request
may
be
expanding.
A
B
I
think
it's,
I
think
we
have
the
the
bins
the
recycling
bins
at
each
facility,
it's
how
much
they
get
filled.
So
I
think
this
is
adequate.
I
think
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
internally
of
promoting
recycling
by
employees
and
then
again
making
public
bins
available.
So
if
we
were
to
let's
say,
exceed
those
recycling
bins,
then
we
would
have
to
add
one
for
an
additional
cost.
B
Actually,
maria
just
got
it
is
we
do
track
the.
C
Amount
of
recycling
that
we
have
at
each
of
the
facilities
just
to
kind
of
get
a
benchmark
of
what's
being
collected
there
and
that
each
building's
doing
its
part.
B
B
C
A
D
B
Okay,
compost,
collection,
so
oops,
so
the
primary
change
here
was
that
we
are
allowing
this
is
an
optional
service
and
then,
basically
that
they
can
haulers
can
propose
compost,
collection
or
they
don't
have
to.
So
it's
really
at
their
discretion
as
to
whether
they
want
to
submit
a
proposal
for
compost.
A
B
A
A
E
Late,
so
are
we
talking
about
it's
an
optional
service
that
the
city
may
or
may
not
choose
to
implement.
A
The
way
it
currently
is,
as
people
are
used
to
where
you
put
out
the
extra
bags
or
bundles
next
to
your
trash,
you
and
I
think
of
that
as
yard
waste,
but
that
is
where
the
material,
the
bundled
branches
and
bags
of
yard
waste
go
to
the
landfill,
and
we've
already
addressed
that
this
is
separate.
This
is
a
green
yard.
Waste
collection
option
that
they
that
we're
giving
them
the
ability
to
additionally
propose
where
this
form
of
yard
waste
would
be.
A
When
it's
picked
up,
it's
not
put
into
the
landfill,
it
goes
to
a
more
environmentally
mentally
friendly
green
processing
place,
and
so
this
would
be
an
optional
thing.
They
could
include
a
price
for,
and
then
citizens
would
be
able
to
optionally
participate
in
this
at
an
ex.
An
additional
price
as
well
is
that
accurate
director
d'andrea.
B
So
again,
neighborhood
yard
waste
events.
So
we
would.
This
is
an
optional
service,
and
so
we
are
going
to
get
a
price,
at
least
for
the
contractor,
to
set
up
at
a
park
or
somewhere
else
where
they
or
the
service
center.
Perhaps
where
you
could
bring
your
bags
of
extra
yard
waste
material,
and
that
would
be
two
times
a
year,
probably
typically
the
spring
and
the
fall.
B
And
we
could
see
that
as
an
optional
one
of
our
optional
menu
items
for
dealing
with
yard
waste.
B
C
D
I
agree
with
member
labe
just
because
I
do
think
we
should
get
a
price
on
this.
You
know
I
have
a
feeling
that
the
you
know
optional,
one
where
they
pick
it
up
on
site
at
our
places
is
going
to
end
up
being
astronomically
in
cost
kind
of
like
we
talked
about
with
the
compost
previously
with
the
other
rfp
and
I'm
suspecting
these
yard
waste
events
might
actually
be
an
affordable
alternative
that
you
know
could
allow
for
people
to
bring
it
to
a
site.
You
know,
at
least
in
limited
amounts
and
stuff
like
that.
D
E
I'm
sorry
I
I'm
raising
my
hand
so
late,
I'm
having
problems
a
little
bit
with
my
computer,
but
would
that
not
and
that's
okay,
I'm
for
leaving
it
in,
but
would
that
not
raise
the
price
that
the
contractor
would
give
us?
A
B
It
is
not
included
in
the
base,
so
we
this
would
be
part
of
our
menu
of
options.
So,
let's
say
to
by
chairboardman's
point:
oh,
it's
it's
very
costly
to
provide.
You
know
pickup
or
it's
a
very
at
the
previous
one
that
we
just
talked
about
is
yard
waste
at
the
home,
so
this
might
be
a
reasonable
option
that
the
committee
would
want
to
consider
putting
as
part
of
the
package
that
we
ultimately
bring
forward,
but
it
is
not
part
of
the
base
price.
At
this
point.
A
B
So
this
next
section
is
a
lot
of
sort
of
the
logistics
in
terms
of
what
we
expect
the
proposal
format
to
be
what
the
pieces
that
go
into
that.
So
we
do
limit
it
to
a
certain
number
of
pages,
and
then
you
can
see
here
the
various
exhibits
that
are
required
to
be
submitted
with
that
there
is
a
cover
letter,
the
approach
that
sort
of
thing
and
then
the
praise
proposal.
B
Any
questions
on
that
part
we
did
add
in
here.
This
was
a
section
that
was
added.
If
you
can
see
my
area,
that's
highlighted,
so
we
did
add
in
that
they
needed
to
talk
about
the
types
of
vehicles
that
they're
going
to
be
using
to
to
facilitate
or
carry
out
the
contract
and
what
are
their
plans
for
replacement
and
upgrades?
B
Okay,
then
we
do
ask
for
relevant
experience,
so
where
are
they
providing
service?
B
Currently
in
other
similar
cities
or
jurisdictions,
then
we
would
follow
up
and
actually
contact
those
people
at
those
other
agencies
to
determine
what
level
of
service
that
they're
providing
and
we
have
some
just
follow
up
there
and
then
also
identifying
who
the
key
personnel
are
that
are
going
to
carry
out
the
contract.
B
Yeah,
so
presentation
is
important
part
I
was
going
to
say
so
we
may
also,
sometimes
I
think
we
talked
about
this.
A
little
bit
last
time
is
that
if
there
are
exceptions
of
any
kind,
let's
say
that
there
is
something
within
their
proposal
that
they
wish
to
keep
confidential
or,
if
there's
exceptions
to
the
contract
or
anything
else
that
they're
required
to
disclose
that.
As
part
of
this
section.
B
Okay,
insurance
and
then
just
a
note
here
that
the
city
does
reserve
the
right
to
reject
any
or
all
proposals
and,
of
course,
there'd
be
a
process
to
go
through
for
doing
that.
B
Any
questions
on
that,
okay,
so
for
the
selection
process,
what
we
would
do
is
basically
we
would
go
through
and
the
scoring
sheet,
which
was
one
of
the
attachments.
I
can
call
that
up
here
we
had
a-
and
we
will
see
it
in
here
in
a
little
bit,
is
the
points
system
and
basically
there
will
be
everybody
will
get
the
proposals
you'll
be
asked
to
rate
those
or
give
ratings
to
each
of
those
we'll
see
who
comes
up
with
the
highest
the
highest
score.
B
Basically,
and
then
we
would
move
forward
into
negotiations
with
that
particular
holler
to
talk
about
any
of
the
specifics,
any
it's
again
going
back
to
that
exceptions.
B
If
there
was
anything
there
that
needed
to
be
discussed
or
hammered
out,
and
then
there
were
some
items
identified
that
if
we
were
to
move
forward
with
the
contract,
then
they
would
need
to
submit
their
list
of
vehicles,
inspection
and
licensing
for
the
vehicles,
obviously
their
insurance,
and
then
that
route
plan,
which
was
a
condition
of
before
they
could
move
forward
into
actually
servicing
within
the
city.
B
Okay,
here
we
go
here's
the
selection
criteria
and
here's
the
points.
So
again,
when
we
get
the
proposals
back
then
we'll
be
asked
to
go
through
those
and
rate
them
on
these
factors,
so
qualifications,
quality
of
equipment
and
vehicles,
price
or
cost,
which
is
given
a
high
amount
here
personnel.
So
these
be
the
folks
who
are
actually
working
on
the
contract
so
typically
that
service
manager
who's
going
to
service
our
contract
and
be
our
point
person
their
work
plan,
any
alternative
approaches
of
how
they
might
come
about
this,
and
then
we
did.
B
So
we
would
probably
go
through
those
talk
to
the
references
and
then
write
a
summary
of
the
conversations
with
each
of
them.
That
would
help
inform
them
that
that
section.
F
Yeah
I
was
hoping
that
we
could
actually
align
the
point
system
to
the
goals
that
are
listed
out
on
page
10..
I
know
we
had
discussed
that
earlier,
but
I
think
it's
more
timely
to
discuss
it
here
and
see
if
we
actually
want
to
put
it
to
a
motion,
but
it
seems
arbitrary.
The
way
it's
listed
now,
it's
very
general
versus
we've
got
very
succinct
goals
on
page
10
that
that
would,
at
least
from
my
point,
be
beneficial
to
align
the
point
system.
A
F
So
we've
got
like
the
the
rate
pay
right.
That's
definitely
one
of
the
primary
things
that
we're
looking
for
that's
listed
in
the
point
system.
That's
listed
on
the
program
goals,
but
if
we
were
to
look
at
increasing
the
amount
of
types
of
materials
being
recycled,
we're
specifically
calling
that
out
to
see
if
that
is
listed
in
their
special
suggestions
in
their
alternative
ways
of
collecting
the
waste
reducing
the
number
of
collection
vehicles.
I
think
that
would
be
a
more
general
savings.
I
think
it
would
be
anything
that
was
specific.
F
So
are
there
point
systems
for
bulk
items?
Are
there
point
systems
for
the
the
issues
that
chair
green
would
like
right
so
that
we're
specifically
looking
at
not
not
specifically
yard
waste,
but
the
program
that
we
had
agreed
on
as
a
whole
financial
savings
customer
service?
You
called
that
out
yourself
like
how
can
we
rate
their
customer
service
because
it
differed
right
with
each
one
of
those
response
times
that
they
were
stating.
A
A
Okay,
remember
brown.
E
Yeah,
I
don't
understand
how
we
can
rate
personnel,
but
I'm
sorry,
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
when
you
were
talking
about
to
get
reviews
on.
E
B
Well,
they
would
give
us
three
agencies
or
companies-
let's
say
probably
other
cities
that
they
currently
serve.
So
let's
say
that's
three
other
cities
with
a
contact
person,
and
so
then
englewood
staff
would
contact
those
references
and
ask
them
about
you
know
what's
their,
how
are
they
providing
service?
Are
they
doing
a
good
job
for
you?
We
probably
have
a
similar
set
of
questions
for
each
of
the
references
to
follow
up
with
okay
and
then
we've
summarized
those
for
the
people
who
are
doing
the
ratings.
G
C
B
Yeah,
just
that
we'd
want
an
experienced
person,
who's
done
this
type
of
works
in
the
past
and
not
somebody
who's.
You
know
necessarily
new
to
that
role,
so
he'd
be
looking
for
experience
and
probably
just
you
know,
experience
in
dealing
with
similar
issues
and
similar
contracts,
so
that
would
be
the
basis
for
that.
Okay,
thank.
E
C
When
I
was
going
through
these
numbers,
I
was
thinking
we
should
start
with
the
price
cost.
That's
probably
the
most
important
and
boost
that
up
to,
for
instance,
50
points
and
and
then
go
through
the
others,
one
by
one
after
that
and
to
throw
out
some
ideas.
I
wonder
if
qualifications
and
personnel
could
be
combined.
C
Okay
and
still
be,
for
instance,
these
are
just
straw
men,
but
that
could
be
still
10
points
total
instead
of
10
points.
Each
that's
a
good
idea.
Another
that
could
be
combined
would
be
the
quality
of
equipment
and
vehicles
and
the
alternative
approaches,
so
those
could
be,
for
instance,
ten
points
total.
C
Instead
of
what's
now,
15
total
proposed
work,
plan
and
approach.
I
think
that
might
include
customer
service,
which
was
one
of
the
things
remember
quantity,
pointed
coins
pointed
out
that's
important
to
us.
C
Maybe
that's
20
and
alternative
approaches,
that's
not
necessary
and
they
don't
even
need
to
submit
any
alternative
approaches.
It's
just
optional
if
they
want
to.
We
do
want
to
encourage
creative
thinking,
but
I
would
think
that
might
be
five
points,
so
those
are
just
some
strawmen
to
start
with,
so
that
we
could
have
the
ability
to
get
the
price
at
at
least
half
the
point.
G
A
A
Good
idea-
and
personally
I
would
like
to
see
service
level
somehow
directly
related
in
here
now.
We
know
a
lot
of
service
levels
covered
by
what
we've
include
included,
as
you
know,
base
service
requirements
like
both
alley
and
street,
but
I
think
it
should
be
taken
into
account
level
of
service
when
we're
looking
at
one
that
is
providing
similar
yard
waste
levels
of
service
to
someone
who's,
not
even
attempting
to
like.
I
think
that
should
be
factored
in,
because
there
are
thousands
of
customers
in
the
city
who
this
current.
A
E
A
G
Yeah,
I
I
guess
that
service
level
how
to
gauge
it
just
seems
a
little
wonky,
because
we're
asking
for
everybody
to
provide
this
service
level
who's
going
to
be
the
cheapest
and
do
it
all
you
see
it
really
comes
down
to
price
and
what
we
want
to
pay
at
the
end
of
the
day.
So
I
mean
you
know
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
here.
It's
it's
a
little
difficult
to
say
what,
if
they
I
mean
what,
if
they
all
offer
that
they
will
all
offer
this
service
they're
going
to
give
us
a
price.
A
A
G
A
Customer
service
we're
talking
about
being
likely
under
the
proposed
work
plan
approach.
What
I
was
talking
about
is
there
like,
if
what
you
said
ended
up
being
true.
If
they
all
offered
all
optional
services,
including
both
options
on
yard
waste,
then
that
would
be
a
wash
points-wise.
But
if
one
offered
the
equivalent
yard
waste,
you
know
the
unlimited,
a
reasonable
amount.
A
G
G
The
price
cost
is
30
points,
so
I
would
be
willing
I
mean
we
could
raise
that.
I
think
that
would
make
sense
for
sure.
A
F
Yeah
one
thing
that's
missing
from
me
is
the
primary
objective
of
ali
service,
both
out
of
the
page
10
program
goals
and
the
page
29
evaluation
criteria.
I
don't
know
where
that
would
fall
into
the
plan,
but
would
like
to
see
that
included
as
one
of
our
primary
goals.
A
A
But
I
do.
I
do
think
that
one
of
the
sub
points
on
proposed
work
plan
approach
in
addition
to
customer
service
should
be
service
levels
because
for
the
things
that
are
optional,
those
can-
or
that
are
you
know,
proposed
in
a
you
know,
a
beneficial
way
that
that
actually
could
be
included
and
would
affect
overall
service
levels
for
citizens.
A
C
A
A
If
we
keep
proposed
work
plan
approach
to
include
customer
service
and
service
levels
at
25,
so
then
we're
at
85
remember:
brinker,
suggested
killing
alternative
approaches
because
it
didn't
really
make
much
sense.
So
we
have
15
left
and
then,
if
we
keep
it,
as
is,
it
would
be
still
5
for
the
quality
of
equipment
and
vehicles
and
10
for
alternative
vehicle
use
of
alternative
vehicles.
Unless
we're
going
to
combine
those
and
address
something
that
maybe
got
left
out,
possibly
remember
quantum
bay
or
remember,
brinker
did
I
miss
something.
C
A
D
D
And
then
you
know
specify
in
there
you
know
you
know
adherence
to
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
look
at
price
for
green
yard
waste
for
for
for
composting
for
large
item
pickup,
all
the
stuff
that
we
really
wanted,
and
if
they
don't
satisfy
at
least
all
of
it,
then
I
think
we
should
dock
them
for
at
least
part
of
it.
A
So,
let's
see,
are
you
done,
then
vice
chair
borman?
Yes,
sorry,
no
problem,
number
brinker.
D
A
C
That's
what
I
think
that's
what
I
was
thinking
is
under
proposed
work,
plan
and
approaches.
They
someone,
I
think
it
remember
quantity,
said,
have
some
bullets.
Sorry.
C
Yes,
yes,
and
then
that
gives
flexibility
for
if
someone
has
really
good
level
of
service
but
doesn't
have
any
alternative
approaches
where
we
could
still
rate
them
high
for
that
etc
and
weigh
those
amongst
ourselves.
But
those
all
would
fall
under
the
general
category
of
proposed
work,
planning
approaches.
A
B
B
Qualifications
and
personnel,
10
points,
equipment
and
vehicles,
along
with
alternate
alternative
fuel
vehicles,
is
10
points
and
work
plan
at
30
points
and
then
we'd
have
sub-bullets
under
the
work
plan
related
to
customer
service
levels
of
service,
adherence
to
the
rfp
and
alternate
approaches.
B
A
Okay,
so
I'll
make
them
unless
someone
else
wants
to.
G
A
C
C
A
D
B
A
Continue,
oh,
I
did
have
a
question
on
this,
which
is
kind
of
before
we
went
through
this
whole
breakdown
which,
but
I
was
wondering
like
what,
if
the
points
add
up
one
way
but
cost
and
service
levels
of
a
different
provider
are
better.
I
think
that
the
way
we
just
broke
this
out
makes
that
less
likely.
So
it's
probably
a
moot
point
at
this
point,
but
that's
that
was
what
I
was
seeing
when
I
first
looked
at
it
and
yeah,
so
that
I'll
just
drop
that
that
was
before
we
went
through
this.
B
All
right
so
now
we're
getting
into
the
attachments
so
attachment
a
is
our
standard
city
contract.
That
was
a
separate
attachment.
I
didn't
include
it
in
this
document,
but
we
can
go
through
that
if
it's
necessary
attachment
b
is
definitions.
So
if
we
reference,
for
example,
the
word
appliances,
what
does
that
mean
if
it
shows
up
within
the
rfp?
B
So
we
say
that
is
applicable
here,
that
appliances
that
contain
freon
are
not
exclu,
as
it
says,
they're
excluded
from
this
definition
as
they
are
considered
hazardous
waste,
so
portable
or
you
know,
window
air
conditioners
are
the
same
way
when
they
contain
freon.
They
can't
be
considered
one
of
the
items
that
you
could
throw
away,
either
in
the
trash
or
as
one
of
the
large
item
pickup
items
because
of
that
freon.
A
I
wanted
to
point
something
out
on
the
large
item,
so
it
seemed.
It
seems
a
little
odd
to
me
that
some
items
are
included.
That
are,
you
know,
like
a
couch,
for
instance,
could
be
way
more
than
40
pounds,
but
then
carpet
is
limited
to
40
pounds
it
just
like
it
seems
like
potentially
some
you
know
unnecessary,
but
reasonable
art
logic
arguments.
B
I
think
the
intent
would
be
is
and
you're
right.
So,
like
a
couch,
you
know
there
could
even
be
multiple
pieces.
You
know
if
it's
like
a
sectional
and
even
then
it
probably
takes
two
people
just
because
it's
so
bulky
and
it
probably
does
way
more
than
40
pounds
so
well.
I
had
a
bathtub.
B
It
takes
six
people
to
lift
one
of
those
old
steel,
yeah
bathtubs,
so
we
could
certainly
expand
on
this.
I
think
even
more
so
it
might
be
in.
I
was
thinking
about
this
after
our
conversation
last
week
is
to
maybe
define
this
list
a
little
bit
better
so
like
here
when
we're
talking
about
mattresses
and
box
spring
so
each
item.
So
a
mattress
is
one
item,
not
a
mattress
and
a
box
spring.
So
when
I
say
here
per
each
item,
it
would
be
one
mattress
one
box
spring.
Similarly,
one
sofa
and
then.
A
A
B
Well-
and
I
think,
but
I
think
that
it
will
help
not
only
citizens,
but
it
will
help
the
waste
haulers
as
well,
so
that
we
try
and
define
this
a
little
bit
better
so
that
their
understanding
is
the
same
as
ours.
So
even
if
we
do
keep
mattresses
and
box
springs
separate
is
to
make
sure
that
that's
very
clear
or
we
combine
it
as
one
mattress
and
one
box
spring,
but
like
for
a
king,
you
also
have
those
two.
B
C
E
D
B
This
was
based
on
lakewoods,
so
I
I
use
theirs
and
it's
it's
very
similar
so
when
they
say
each
item,
but
I
think
their
text
in
their
rfp
document
was
a
little
bit
more
specific
than
this
list,
so
I
think
you
know
again.
What
we
could
do
here
is
mattress
like
or
box
spring.
If
we
wanted
to
go
that
route,
I
mean.
A
Okay,
did
you
have
something
else
vice
chair,
mormon
or
use
your
hands
just
still
up.
D
A
Or
it's
not
too
hard
with
like
mattress,
I
mean
you
could
say
you
know
one
complete
bed
set
of
mattress
and
box
spring.
You
know
because
then
it
covers
all
the
configurations
of
mattresses
and
box
springs
that
make
up
one
bed
yeah.
That
makes
sense.
Couches
could
be
in
including
all
portions
of
a
sectional,
you
know
complete
and
I
would
think
on
chairs
you
know
if
someone's
trying
to
get
rid
of
a
set
of
chairs.
Why
not
let
that
be
chairs?
E
E
A
At
all,
well,
40
pounds
is
only
specified
for
three
of
the
things
construction
debris
swing
set
for
some
reason,
which
I
doubt
any
swing
set,
weighs
only
40
pounds
and
then
carpet,
and
then
everything
else
is
not
limited
by
a
poundage
so,
and
I
do
think
that
those
definitions
should
be
updated
to
be.
You
know
complete,
like
I
suggested
on
couch,
and
I
think
your
point
about
the
pillows
is
good.
It
should
be,
you
know,
couch
complete,
all
sections
and
pillows.
E
E
C
A
C
On
it,
it's
not
something
I'm
going
to
dye
my
sword
over,
but
I
am
a
little
nervous
when
we
start
raising
an
advantage
on
every
single
thing
and
then
the
amount
just
because
of
how
it
might
affect
the
price
that
we
get
and
I'm
gonna
be
pretty
price
sensitive.
As
we
start
getting
our
bids
in
obviously
like
everyone.
A
C
Yeah
clarity
definitely
helps,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
use
the
the
poundage
of
a
bathtub
as
a
benchmark
for
everything,
and
I
don't
know
about
sectionals,
but
hopefully
there
won't
be
too
many
of
those,
but
that
I
don't
think
that
means
we
need
to
use
that
as
the
benchmark
for
weight
for
everything
either.
Necessarily
it
does
make
more
logical
sense,
but
it'll
probably
also
make
the
cost
a
lot
higher.
B
Yeah
just
to
counterpoint,
you
know
there
could
be
instances
too,
where
you
just
replace
your
mattress
and
not
the
box
spring
or
your
bed
set
and
so
then
you're
paying
for
the
entire
price
for
that
item,
to
remove
to
assume
that
the
disposal
was
for
everything
and
really
you're,
just
getting
rid
of
the
mattress,
so
yeah
be
the
other
extreme
of
that
situation.
D
I
just
keep
getting
stuck
on
the
bathtubs
in
terms
of
like
a
200
pound
thing.
I
don't
know
if
they're
really
that
heavy,
but
maybe
we
should
limit
the
weight
of
something
like
that,
but
not
necessarily
get
stuck
on
the
40
pounds.
D
A
I
mean
I'd
argue
if
we're
gonna
kill
the
value
of.
I
mean
if
this
is
based
on
what
lakewood's
doing
and
we're
we're,
incurring
the
cost
of
including
large
item
pickup
for
the
benefit
of
citizens,
and
then
we,
you
know
limit
it
to
the
point
where
several
of
the
things
would
just
create
a
rejection
or
argument
that
oh,
no,
we'll
only
take
one
part
of
your
couch,
we'll
only
take
one
part
of
your
bed.
Oh
your
bathtub
is
too
heavy.
You
know,
then
we're
kind
of
like.
Why
are
we
even
including
this?
A
D
Yeah,
I
wasn't
like
saying
that
we
would
you
know
I
do
think
it
should
be
mattress
and
box
spring,
because
I
do
think
that
that
is
a
mattress.
You
know
generically
altogether.
I
just
was
you
know
the
huge
bathtub
I'm
trying
to
think
of
like
I
know,
they'll
probably
have
to
send
somebody
special
out,
because
I
think
that
was
part
of
our
plan,
but
you
know
essentially
like
a
200
pound
bathtub.
D
A
Well,
I
do
I
mean
that's
multiple
of
us
who
think
that
a
mattress
should
include
whatever
combination
that
makes
up
a
single
bed
of
mattress
and
box
spring,
and
then
you
know
from
the
beginning,
the
assumption
was
couches
included.
The
complete
couch,
including
the
sectional
vice
chair.
Boarman,
is
your
hand
up
still
or
is
that
again.
D
A
And
mattress-
and
you
know
complete
bed
mattress
and
box
spring.
You
know
if
someone's
only
replacing
one
or
the
other,
they
don't.
You
know
fine.
It's
covered.
Remember
brown.
E
G
Well,
it
says
per
each
four
foot:
bundle
each
weighing
more
than
25
pounds,
people
who
install
and
and
do
their
own
carpet
generally.
No,
it's
going
to
be
more
than
25
pounds,
but
just
quickly
getting
back
to
the
mattress
or
box
string
the
price.
If
we
do
both,
if
it's
mattress
and
box
spring,
I
can
imagine,
the
price
is
going
to
be
250.,
and
so,
if
it's
just
one
mattress,
the
price
is
probably
going
to
be.
G
Half
that
you
see
what's
been
dumped
around
here
in
this
block
has
been
just
the
mattress
part,
so
they
don't
go
hand
in
hand.
You
know
a
lot
of
people.
These
days
are
buying
those
things
that
you
blow
up
and
they
just
they
just
they
poof
up
when
you
take
them
out
of
the
box,
and
they
just
sleep
on
that.
G
E
G
Yeah,
I
guess,
if
you
want
to
pay
for
your
mattress
you're,
going
to
pay
for
the
box
spring
anyway
to
have
that
removed.
So
if
you
just
have
a
box
spring
you're
paying
for
the
mattress
to
be
removed
as
well.
So
hang
on
to
your
box
spring
until
you
got
a
mattress
and
then
you
can
get
both
instead
of
doing
them
separately.
A
We're
gonna
exclude
so
we're
gonna
make
it
a
couch
like
I've
got
a
couch,
that's
six
sections.
If
I
want
to
get
rid
of
that
no
problem,
but
if
I
have
a
mattress
and
a
box
spring
we're
going
to
make
that
two
items
I
mean
plenty
of
citizens
are
going
to
feel
this
way.
I'm
not
alone.
G
A
Do
you
understand
that
what
I'm
comparing
it
to,
if
they're
gonna,
have
to
take
all
couches
incomplete
you
know
that
can
be
hide-a-beds
that
can
be
hide-a-beds
combined
in
a
sectional,
like
mine,
we're
talking
about
a
huge
amount
of
couch
in
that
case,
which
why?
Why
are
we
going
to
include
all
that
and
not
the
mattress
and
box
spring
we're.
G
G
C
On
this,
because
we've
replaced
our
mattress
twice,
but
not
the
box
ring
in
either
case,
and
I
think
that
that's
becoming
more
and
more
common,
because
the
mattress
gets
more
squished.
The
box
spring
is
just
there
kind
of
stable
and
then
like
remember,
hubcoating.
Some
people
don't
even
use
a
box
spring,
and
then
I
also
thought
that
we
had
it
in
there,
where
you
could
do
a
couple.
Different
items
on
a
large
item
pick
up.
So
if
you
have
a
mattress
and
a
box
spring,
they
would
take
both.
C
So
I
would
go
for
the
option
of
the
lower
cost
here,
because
we
know
that
if
we
don't
get
a
bid
that
beats
your
waste
services
contracts,
then
all
of
this
is
fed.
So
I'm
leaning
more
towards
trying
to
be
conservative
on
price
where
we
can-
and
I
don't
think
it's
necessary
to
use
the
bathtub
or
the
sectional
as
the
benchmarks.
I
think
it's
totally
fine
to
see
couch
because
most
couches
aren't
sectional.
Some
are
it'll
all
come
out
in
the
wash.
A
I
I
would
say
the
cost
proposal
should
reflect
what's
in
the
rfp
accurately,
so
that
we
at
least
don't
have
ambiguity
between
the
two,
and
so,
if
it's
mattresses
then
put
that
in
the
cost
proposal,
and
if
we
want
to
change
what's
in
the
rfp,
then
let's
change
that
I
mean
I've
heard
arguments
for
ambiguity.
I've
heard
arguments
for
reducing
what
these
currently
mean.
I've
heard
arguments
for
increasing.
A
There
hasn't
been
a
motion
yet,
but
I
do
think
that
they
should
be
in
sync,
and
I
would
say
that
the
rfp
is
what
should
drive
that
rather
than
the
cost
proposal.
So
the
definitions
should
be
from
what's
in
the
rfp
vice
chair,
borman.
D
A
D
A
C
Under
chairs
that
came
up
before
it
does
say
in
the
in
the
fill
in
one,
four
chairs
counts
as
a
set.
So
in
some
cases
maybe
we
just
go
with
whichever
is
more
specific
and
make
a
match.
A
C
Mattresses,
I
just
heard
you
say
earlier
that
you
know
you
thought
a
set
of
chairs
should
count,
and
that
is
what's
in
the
green
fill
out
portion.
C
So
you
would,
if
you
did,
that
with
your
motion,
each
chair
would
count
separate,
but
if
we
went
with
what's
in
the
green,
four
chairs
would
count.
So
maybe
we
need
to
just
do
a
comparison,
and
maybe
maria
can
do
that.
A
So
I
guess
we
need
to
see
both
and
pick
through
it
if
we're
gonna.
If
we're
gonna
go
for
one,
some
definitions
from
one
and
some
from
the
other,
I
was
trying
to
make
it
more
simple,
since
we
could
leave
it
as
we
don't,
we
definitely
don't
need
to
make
it
specifically
dining
chairs,
there's
no
reason
to
limit
it
to
a
type
of
chair.
C
Could
we
ask
director
andrea
to
just
go
through
them
and
try
to
make
them
matteo?
She
she
sees
fit
and
and
but.
A
Well
then,
if
we're
gonna,
do
I'm
not
okay
with
it
just
arbitrarily
being
changed
and
agreeing
to
it
without
knowing
what
it
is?
I'm
not
okay
with
that.
So
if
we
want
to
deal
with
it
now
and
either
keep
it
ambiguous
based
on
what
the
definitions
were
in
the
rfp
or
some
combination,
etc.
Then,
let's
work
through
that
member
hubka.
G
Well,
I
am
comfortable
with
having
maria
go
through
it
and
see
if
she
can
figure
out
the
best
way
to
match
him,
because
I
I
don't
want
to
go
over
a
set
of
chairs
is
ambiguous.
That
could
be
a
set
of
office
chairs,
but
we
know
they
probably
mean
dining
chairs
and
we
could
also
go
into
all
electronics
and
garage
the
garage
door
motors
and
again,
every
conceivable
thing
you
could
put
into
the
waste.
We
could
really
draw
this
rfb
out,
so
I
would
like
to
trash
maria's
best
judgment
and
have
her
go.
G
A
We're
not
under
any
time
constraint,
and
I
would
like
to
not
rush
anything
on
behalf
of
citizens.
A
G
A
All
right,
that's
an
opinion.
We
are
not
under
a
constraint
time,
wise
and
doing
this
right
and
getting
out
the
proposal
that
or
the
request
for
proposal
that
best
reflects
what's
what
we're
trying
to
achieve,
which
is
primarily
cost
and
service
for
citizens.
A
If
we're
not
done
we're
not
done,
and
I'm
not
okay
with
arbitrarily
having
what
this
ends
up
being
as
interpreted
by
a
city
staff
member,
no,
nothing
against
director,
d'andrea's
capabilities
or
what
she
puts
out,
because
obviously
she
does
a
great
job,
but
not
without
our
reflecting
on
it.
If
we
want
to,
if
we
want
to
continue.
A
If
we
want
to
move
forward
on
this
with
it
being
as
it
was
written
in
the
rfp
and
get
the
cost
proposal
in
sync
with
that
as
ambiguous
as
that
was
because
we
know
that,
that's
where
that
it
came
from
lakewood
based
on
that
fine,
if
anything
else,
then
I'm
going
to
want
to
have
get
into
the
details
of
it
and
specify
it
more
specifically,
personally
remember
brown.
E
G
Then
I'll
just
make
a
suggestion
that
we
set
this
aside
and
have
a
separate
meeting
to
go
over
all
of
these
definitions
and
list
them
out
and
we'll
talk
about
the
definition
of
each
piece
of
this
waste.
G
B
Certainly,
and-
and
maybe
this
is
a
good
time
to
add-
but
I've
been
given
feedback
from
the
city
manager
that
the
count
at
least
a
couple
of
city
council
members
do
want
this
to
come
back.
A
C
A
C
B
All
right
well.
A
You
did
just
skip
past
something
that's
kind
of
controversial,
and
I
mean
I
would
love
this
because
you
have
residential,
solid
waste
defined
as
what
I
think
it
should
be,
including
the
tree
limbs
and
you
know,
carpet,
drywall
et
cetera,
so
we're,
but
that
doesn't
really
fit
with
everything
that
we've
currently
discussed
right,
because
residential
solid
waste
is
what
fits
in
the
bin.
A
According
to
what
we
you
know,
I
hate
to
make
that
argument,
because
I'm
the
biggest
proponent
of
having
standard
levels
of
service
included,
which
is
including
yard
waste-
and
this
obviously
is
based
on
that
standard
level
of
service
that
everyone's
used
to.
But
this
does
not
fit
with
what
you
know.
We've
currently
been
limited
to
based
on
you
know,
the
votes
of
other
members
of
this
committee.
B
So
I
noticed
one
thing
here:
we
need
to
look
at
making
these
consistent,
so
here
I
have
35
we
had
40
earlier,
so
I
do
need
to
clarify
that,
but
I
think
the
intent
was
to
try
and
define
what
is
residential,
solid
waste,
because
sometimes
people
don't
include
so
as
it
says,
they're
small
amounts
of
carpet
drywall
and
tree
limbs,
but
not
neces.
Sometimes
they
can
completely
exclude
these
types
of
items
as
residential.
B
B
Yeah,
but
that
that
would
be
the
intent
is
that
they,
so
we
define
in
the
proposal
that
yeah
that
or
excuse
me
the
rfp,
that
residential,
solid
waste
is
within
contained
within
the
container.
C
B
B
This
just
talks
about-
I
did
add
this
number
three
with
the
alternative
fuel
vehicles
to
talk
more
about
that,
but
otherwise
this
just
gets
into
some
of
the
requirements
around
vehicles,
as
well
as
driver.
E
C
Operating
conditions,
vehicles
yeah
second
sense:
there
vehicles
shall
not
be
allowed
to
stand
in.
I
would
like
to
add
or
idle
in
any
street.
C
A
B
C
C
B
Okay
and
then
we
talk
a
little
bit
that
there
needs
to
be
a
supervisor
identified
and
then
again,
they're
kind
of
a
point
person
for
the
city,
they're
dealing
with
customer
service
issues,
as
well
as
the
haulers
and
then
just
some
items
related
to
how
the
personnel
out
in
the
field,
as
well
as
those
on
let's
say,
customer
service
people
online,
how
they
would
conduct.
E
Looks
like
it
doesn't
it
yeah
I
director
deandre
when
it
says
about
personal
personnel
conduct,
so
I
thought
and
I'm
maybe
wrong,
but
I
thought
that
the
trash
is
a
trash
company
going
to.
Are
we
going
to
call
the
trash
company
for
complaints
to
say
they
missed
a
pickup,
or
do
we
call
the
city
too?
I
mean
how
is
that
going
to
work.
B
The
intent
would
be
is
that
you
would
call
the
call
the
company
directly,
but
we
know
that
we
will.
That's
we'll
get
a
certain
number
of
calls,
but
we
would
direct
people
to
contact
them
directly.
E
B
We
are
but
they're
not
necessarily
dealing
with
the
complaints,
so
they're
they're
for
billing
they're
they're.
They
will
handle
a
certain
number
of
calls
because
typically
your
first
call
unless
you
know
that-
and
we
adequately
communicate-
that
a
lot
of
people
will
end
up
calling
the
city
and
then
we'll
direct
them
to
call
the
waste
holler,
but
that
the
intent
of
the
additional
staff
is
to
manage
the
program
in
terms
of
billing
dealing
with
special
cases.
B
It's
not
necessarily
to
answer.
You
know
every
and
follow
up
on
every
single
complaint,
because
basically,
if
you
go
to
the
waste
hauler,
then
they
can
handle
that
more
directly
and
efficiently.
E
Okay,
I
mean
I,
I
already
know:
we've
spoken
about
the
amount
of
money
for
two
and
a
half
workers,
so
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
know,
since
the
trash
hauler
is
going
to
get
the
complaints,
I
guess
I'm
still
not
understanding
why
we
need
that
amount
of
people,
but
thank
you
for
answering
my
question.
Yeah.
E
G
A
Direct
fiber
connection
and
to
me
it
looked
like
director,
d'andrea
was
frozen,
but
then
suddenly
I
got
kicked
out
so
sorry,
so
I
missed
a
minute
or
two
there.
I
caught
the
end
of
your
answering,
remember
brown.
I
have
some
questions
on
page
36
as
well.
Okay,
some
of
this
to
me
seems
like
like.
Are
we
going
to
require
their
phone
answering
people
to
wear
a
uniform?
A
I
mean,
like
some
of
this
stuff
feels
like
it's
getting
in
between
the
contractor
and
their
staff
in
ways
that
we
don't
really
need
to
get
in
the
way
of.
B
C
A
B
I
I
think,
there's
actually.
This
may
relate
back
to,
I
think,
there's
a
law
related
to
this-
that
technically
you
own
your
trash
until
it's
picked
up
by
the
hauler,
so
that
is
considered
scavenging.
If
somebody
else
were
to
come
through
your
garbage
or
if
the
waste
hauler's
staff
were
to
go
through
the
garbage,
I
guess
we
don't
need
to
know
about
that.
Necessarily.
A
But
one
thing
I
don't
want
to
like
you
know,
build
into
you
know
unnecessarily
build
in
is
blocking
citizens
from
being
able
to,
you
know,
have
scavengers
take
stuff,
I
mean
I've
moved
tons
of
things
that
have
been
recycled
or
upcycled
just
by
putting
it
at
the
end
of
my
driveway
and
scavengers
take
it.
I
don't
want
to
discourage
scavenging.
B
Yeah,
I
can
look
into
that
a
little
bit
more.
I
think
you
know
that's
great,
and
I
think
we
do
want
to
encourage
that.
It
might
be
in
a
situation
where
others
don't
necessarily
want
to
people
to
go
through
their
garbage.
That's
why
sometimes
people
put
free,
you
know
a
little
sign.
This
is
free
or
something,
and
then
it's
intended
to
take
it,
but
it
might
not
be
an
issue.
C
G
B
And
then
we
get
into
customer
service,
so
we
again
we
specify
that
in
their
in
their
proposal
that
they'll
outline
their
customer
service
plan
how
they
intend
to
handle
complaints.
This
also
ties
back
to
our
levels
of
service.
So
they'll
need
to
speak
to
that
again
how
they're
they're,
taking
customer
calls
and
their
timing
for
responding
to
and
resolving
issues.
B
C
I'm
just
trying
to
apply
my
new
button
when
I
was
digging
through
the
the
text
under
two
four
and
five.
They
cover
a
lot
of
the
same
ground,
so
I
think
for
clarity,
so
those
three
could
be.
A
Combined
and
I
feel
like
I
mean
we
did
vote
to-
require
that
the
hauler
provide
citizens
with
a
way
to
submit
requests
for
any
of
the
things
that
a
citizen
might
need
to
submit
a
request
for
without
any
waiting
where
the
response
is
on
the
hauler.
We
voted
on
that
and
I
don't
feel
like
this
is
specific
enough
to
make
that
clear.
A
A
A
C
Yeah,
just
a
couple
wording
things
in
this
section
under
response
period:
oh
yeah,
you've
got
it
emails
and
web-based
forms
yup.
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
above
that
too,
about
two
lines
above
that
email
down
one
like
one
way.
C
Yes,
there
emails
online
chat,
yep.
G
No,
I
think
one
day
is
fine.
You
know.
C
A
C
A
Good
and
as
far
as
customer
related
issues
and
documentation,
they
could
that
could
just
be
summaries
and
abstracts.
I'm
talking
about
the
actual
content.
If,
if
a
citizen
you
know
is
com,
that's
what
I
don't
like
is
that
citizen
complaints
and
experiences
are
going
to
the
hauler
and
the
city
does
not.
A
The
city
is
just
getting
a
report.
I
mean
we
know
that
waste
management
told
us
that
they,
you
know,
never
have
a
response
take
more
than
like
50
seconds
or
whatever
it
was,
and
we
know
that's
not
true,
because
our
former
member
frazier's
wife
spent
hours
without
getting
you
know
on
hold
and
without
getting
a
result.
I
don't
want
to
have
it
be
dependent
on
these
haulers
to
give
us
a
high
level
write-up
on
an
issue
or
their
documentation.
I
want
the
city
to
have
access
to
the
content
of
any
message,
form
recorded,
call,
etc.
A
A
B
This
is
the
types
of
reports
that
they'd
be
required
to
provide
us.
So
all
of
the
following
under
item
number
one
here
is
reported
monthly
by
the
20th
of
each
month.
So
basically,
let's
say
it's
it's
may
so
by
for
the
month
of
april
by
may
20th
they
would
be
required
to
provide
all
of
this
so
material
reports
tags.
If
they,
if
they
let's
say
a
customer,
puts
garbage
in
their
recycling
containers,
they
would
for
they
would
get
this
educational
text.
B
C
C
A
C
C
B
G
C
If
it's,
if
they
do
bid
for
and
receive
the
yard,
waste
special
yard
waste
or
a
special
compost
contract.
C
C
B
C
A
A
A
B
No
because
I
think
I
think
the
police
department
is
correct
because
basically
it
becomes,
you
know
a
safety
incident
and
then
they
document
it
as
a
as
such.
Okay.
B
Yeah
so
let's
say
again:
somebody
filled
up
their
recycling
bin
with
garbage
and
used
it
as
a
second
garbage
container
and
the
the
driver
happened
to
catch
that,
so
they
would
not
necessarily
empty
that
into
their.
You
know
they
don't
want
to
contaminate
the
recycling
load,
so
they
would
usually
put
a
tag
on
there
saying
this
is
why
we're
not
taking
your
recite
or
emptying
your
recycling
bin
and
then
they
would
note
the
address
of
that
and
where
they
left
that
tag.
B
B
C
E
B
B
All
right,
this
is
the
payments
and
penalties,
and
we
we
have
spent
a
fair
number
of
discussion
on
penalties.
So
again,
that's
laid
out
pretty
extensively
in
the
here
in
these
the
sections
down
below.
I
did
want
to
just
touch
on
one
thing
here,
so
this
is
this
yearly
number
three
here
is
where
we
talk
about.
B
We've
had
a
fair
amount
of
discussion
around
the
increase,
so
this
is
where
we
added
or
changed
that
language
related
to
the
denver,
aurora
lakewood
consumer
price
index
and
then
that
the
percentage
increase
would
match
the
years
of
the
contract
so
again
not
exceed
five
percent
for
five
years,
seven
for
seven
and
ten
for
ten.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
that
was
changed
in
there.
B
No
so
this
would
be
so
outside
of
our
large
item
pickup.
So
let's
say
you
had
a
you
had
a
mattress
to
get
rid
of
outside
of
that.
So
that's
when
we
had
those
individual
prices
for
the
large
item,
pickups
that
you
would
then
contact
the
contractor
and
then
they
would
come
out
and
do
that.
Let's
say
you've
already
used
up
your
two
vouchers
for
the
year
and
you
had
a
next
another
something
to
get
rid
of.
Then
you
would
pay
for
that
directly
to
them.
A
So
to
me
that
sounds
kind
of
crazy
that
the
contractor
can
be
potentially
invoicing
every
citizen
directly
as
well
as
the
city.
Doing
that
I
mean
if
the
contractor
is
going
to
be
capable
of
invoicing
customers
directly,
then
why
don't
we
just
have
them?
Do
it
all
and
not
include
city
staff,
to
to
do
invoicing
for
this
to
citizens?
A
B
Yeah,
that's
that's
a
good
point.
I
guess
you
know
they're
they're,
the
ones
taking
that
request,
so
they
would.
The
idea
would
be
is
most
likely
that
they'd
take
payment
at
the
time
that
the
the
pickup
was
scheduled,
but
we
can
certainly
consider
changing
that
and
then
they
would
just
have
to
provide
with
that
monthly
report
of
charges
that
list
of
who
we
would
invoice.
You
know,
in
addition
to
so,
let's
say
in
that
situation,
but
this
should
be
well.
G
G
So
in
this
case,
the
waste
collector
is
going
to
absorb
that
cost
and
we're
going
to
have
two
administrators
one
and
a
half.
I
should
say
to
make
sure
that
they're
keeping
to
the
contract
and,
of
course,
to
settle
help
us
with
any
disputes
that
they're
not
able
to
arise.
I
don't
think
we
want
to
go
into
the
business
of
hiring
more
staff
to
send
out
bills
and,
of
course,
there's
the
paper
and
the
copier
and
there's
expense
related
to
it.
A
I
mean
I
agree
and
that's
why
I
don't
understand
why
the
city's
doing
the
billing
of
citizens
in
the
first
place,
if
the
contractor
is
maintaining
a
direct
relationship
to
citizens
and
billing
them
directly
anyway.
Why
not?
Why
not
have
them
absorb
the
whole
thing
and
then
we
don't
have
to
pay
for
these
administrators
or
have
less
of
it.
G
We
need
administrators,
I
think
regardless,
don't
we
I
mean,
that's
not
part
of
the
billing.
I
I
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
revisit
what
how
the
city
wants
to
handle
this,
because
I
think
that
was
up.
The
city
wants
council
members
want
somebody
over
this
to
administrate,
administer
the
contract.
Well,.
B
I
was
just
going
to
say,
I
think
the
the
impetus
was
that
we're
already
sending
out
the
utility
bill
so
that
this
would
be
one
more
element
of
that
on
the
bill,
so
there
should
be
relatively
low
cost
because
we're
already
doing
those
mailing
services.
B
A
A
G
Oh
sorry,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
this,
because
this
is
a
change
from
the
different
from
the
previous
rfp.
G
We're
going
to
make
all
the
the
city
will
send
out
a
bill
and
do
collection
and
do
billing
and
handle
the
billing
disputes
for
all
of
it,
not
just
extra
pieces
but
the
muslim
bill,
and
then,
of
course,
all
the
extras
that
we're
having
on
you
know.
That's
what
we're
changing.
A
Well,
currently,
the
way
outside
of
this
all
payment
was
going
to
go
through
the
city
right
director,
d'andrea,
so
the
relationship,
the
billing
relationship
between
citizens
and
everything
related
to
trash,
except
for
this
one
sentence
or
two
sentences-
has
been
established
that
it's
city
to
citizen
on
the
water
bill,
and
then
this
is
thrown
in
there
that
the
contractors
now
also
have
an
invoice
relationship
with
citizens
which
to
me
if
they
can
handle
that
and
do
that,
then
why
are
we
spending
extra
money
having
the
city?
Do
it
like.
G
Oh
I
get
yeah,
it
should
be
one
of
the
other,
it
should
be
yeah.
I
thought
it
was.
I
thought
we
were
getting
a
bill
from
the
the
waste
management
company,
but.
A
Bill,
that's
what's
so
weird
to
me:
is
this
by
this
section
is
creating
a
double
invoice
relationship
for
a
citizen.
Now
the
citizen
has
a
relationship
with
the
city
paying
through
for
their
trash
on
the
water
bill
and
also
anything
extra
than
now
they're
having
to
pay
the
contractor
directly.
So
to
me,
it's
an
argument
against
having
the
city
do
the
billing,
because
if
the
contractor
is
able
to
maintain
an
invoice
relationship
with
every
citizen,
then
why
don't
they
just
do
it
all
and
reduce
our
cost
on
the
administration?
G
E
I
would
agree
if
they
have
the
capability,
which
we
know
they
do
to
bill.
Why
not
just
leave
it
in
their
hands
and
then
we
wouldn't
right.
We
we
wouldn't
need
to
full-time
and
one
part-time
person
which
we
know
is
over
200
000
plus
we
wouldn't
have
to
charge
an
administrative
fee.
Would
we?
B
Because
there
will
be
administrative
costs,
so
we
know
that
people
will
still
call
the
city
for
their
bills.
We
know
that
they'll
still
call
and
ask
questions
about
miss
pickups,
they're
still
gonna
have
somebody
who
has
to
manage
the
contract
and
deal
with
issues.
So
there
will
be
some
level
of
administration,
no
matter
what.
E
B
You
can
do
anything
you
want,
so
you
know
if
you
wanted
to
have
two
bills,
then
you'll
pay
for
that.
You'll
continue
to
pay
for
your
utility
bill,
coming
in
the
mail
and
being
mailed
out,
and
then
you'll
also
pay
the
company
what
some
price
for
creating
a
bill
and
invoicing
you
on
a
monthly
basis
as
well.
E
Well,
like
I
guess
I
would
kind
of
like
to
know
what
the
difference
would
be.
I
mean
I
don't
really
see
much
of
a
difference
unless
they
charge
us
more
for
sending
us
out
invoices
which
apparently
they
already
do
anyway
correct
like
any
of
these
trash
haulers,
don't
they
send
out
invoices
to
their
customers?
E
C
D
Yeah,
I
was
just
gonna
that
I
feel
like
by
giving
it
to
the
city,
so
we
have
all
these
penalties
that
are
assessed
right.
We
need
to
have
a
way
for
the
city
to
be.
You
know
we
they.
D
D
You
know
giving
us
back
our
monthly
cost
and
also
putting
it
out
towards
helping
low-income
people,
and
things
like
that,
which
we
already
kind
of
talked
about,
and
I
think
that's
the
one
of
the
biggest
arguments
for
me
in
terms
of
our
keeping
the
administration
through
the
city.
Is
that
way
we
have
the
city
watching
over
our
bills
and
all
these
penalties
and
everything
like
that,
so
that
the
money
that
is
assessed
is
is
spent
in
the
way
that
we
want
it
to
be
in
terms
of
subsidizing.
D
People
who
are
can't
afford
their
trash
or
or
education
or
whatever
else
we
had
put
in
there.
A
A
I
mean
just
being
someone
who's
worked
on
systems
like
this
all
over
the
place.
I
I
see
no
reason
that
this
portion
can't
also
be
included
in
what
the
city
invoices
for
without
increasing
the
administrative
cost
beyond
what
is
already
ex
laid
out,
because
this
is
something
that
should
be
built
into
the
interface
between
the
hauler
and
the
city,
and
you
know
I
I
don't.
I
don't
see
why
the
hauler
needs
to
be
invoicing
citizens
directly
when
we
have.
I.
D
A
A
It's
it's
inefficient
and
it's
going
to
create
other
problems
and
it
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
have
the
hauler
invoicing,
citizens
and
the
city
invoicing
citizens.
If
we've
got
two
and
a
half
people
full
time,
there's
no
reason
that
the
automation
for
this
can't
be
built
in
so
that
the
city
includes
this
portion
in
what
the
city
is
invoicing.
Citizens
for
and
the
hauler
doesn't
invoice
the
citizens
directly
at
all
agreed.
A
Without
increasing
the
cost
on
administration,
because
it
shouldn't
there'll,
be
a
bit
of
work
up
front
to
automate
it.
But
once
it's
automated,
there's
really
no
reason
that
the
city
administration
should
have
to
do
anything
other
than
deal
with
exceptions.
And
there
should
be
plenty
of
time
available
for
two
and
a
half
people
to
handle.
That.
F
A
Excellent
point,
and
that
would
be
a
good
argument
for
putting
the
billing
to
the
hauler
entirely,
but
we
are
at
time
I
would
suggest
director
d'andrea.
Will
you
please
fill
this
out
and
get
us
more
info
on
what
what
the
city's
position
really
is
on
having
this
separate
invoicing,
relationship
between
the
hauler
and
the
citizen,
as
well
as
the
citiz,
the
city
and
the
citizen,
so
that
we
can
kind
of
come
to
a
you
know
if
you
have
more
information
that
justifies
this
double
invoice
relationship
with
citizens.
I
would
like
to
hear
it.
C
A
And
then
we're
pretty
close
and
so
we'll
have
the
details
of
the
large
item
to
go
over
last
next
time,
thanks
for
pointing
out
the
time
member
quanabet,
I
didn't
even
realize
we're
gonna
finish
for
now
on
this
we'll
schedule
our
next
meeting,
so
our
next
meeting
normal
time
would
be
on
the
7th.
Does
anyone
object
to
that.
B
A
A
C
I
I
don't
know
if
I
can,
because
the
new
a
different
committee's
starting
up,
but
I
think
it's
gonna
be
every
other
tuesday,
but
I'm
not
positive.
A
Okay,
let's
does
anyone
else
have
an
issue
with
the
eighth.
E
I
might
not
be
able
to
attend
on
the
eighth.
I
believe
I
have
a
previous
appointment.
A
Okay,
I
hate
to
exclude
anyone.
I
feel
like
we're
all
important,
so
I'd
like
to
figure
out
a
time
that
we
can
all
meet
does
if
we
did
it
on
the
7th.
At
the
same
time
as
the
city
council,
I
know,
remember
brown,
you
participate
in
pretty
much
every
city
council,
so
that's
a
hardship
for
you
is
that
a
hardship
for
anyone
else
to
do
the
seventh?
A
A
Chairperson's
choice:
I
don't
have
anything
committee
member's
choice.
Anybody.
A
Okay,
do
you
have
anything
else
for
us
director,
oh
member
hubka,.
G
Oh
I'm
just
gonna
mention
that
we're
coming
up
to
summer
vacations,
so
we
had
a
hard
time
scheduling
last
summer.
We'll
have
a
hard
time
scheduling
I
think
going
forward.
I
hope
we
can
wrap
this
up
in
one
more
meeting.
Really
I'm
sorry,
but
my
time
our
time
is
valuable
too.
You
know
that's
all.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
let's
adjourn
thank
you.
Everyone.