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A
A
C
A
I
can
see
it
awesome,
okay,
I'll
stop
sharing
for
now,
but
I,
since
maria's
trusted
me
to
handle
the
presentation
and
everything
tonight
I
was
like
I
better
be
able
to
do
this
gotta
make
maria
proud.
A
A
But
it's
it's
real,
it's
natural
to
me,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
mechanics
in
my
family,
and
so
it
came
a
lot
easier
than
I
thought
it
would
be
just
because
I
I
kind
of
knew
enough
around
a
car
that
those
guys
when
I
walk
in
there,
they
don't
look
at
me
like
I'm
a
complete
fool,
so
it
worked
out
well.
A
My
phone
typically
does
not,
because
our
streets
crew
are
phenomenal
and
so
we've
been
pretty
lucky.
I
I
get
an
email
or
a
text
every
once
when
they're
like
what
do
you
think
about
this,
but
for
the
most
part
our
streets
crew
handles
it?
Did
you
know
that
our
storm
that
we
got
not
last
week
but
the
week
before
was
the
largest
storm
we
had
in
five
years
it
was
16.3
inches.
B
A
A
I
am
too,
I
think
it's
good
to
get
some
nice
wet
storms,
so
we
can
have
nice
green
grass
in
the
summer.
That's
at
least
my
my
my
belief
on
the
system.
D
Okay,
brittany,
you
good.
If
I
make
you
the
host
yeah,
I
think
so.
A
D
A
A
A
Brittany,
it
looks
like
you
have
three
folks
within
the
attendees
that
could
get
moved
over
to
the
panelists.
When
you
get
a.
A
A
I
think
you
click
on
them
and
you
can
add
them,
but
I'm
not
the
host,
so
it
won't.
Let
me
do
it.
Okay,.
E
A
Everyone
can
go,
I
think
felicia
jeff
and
I'm
gonna
marcy
and
kawanabe
council,
member
quan
or
committee
member
quanaby,
and
I
probably
butchered
his
name.
So
sorry.
D
Okay
and
susan
should
stay.
A
Comes
over
to
us,
okay,
yep
did
I
get
that
correct,
chair,
ward,
okay,.
B
D
B
All
right,
this
is
a
meeting
of
the
organized
residential
waste
and
recycling
collection
citizens
committee.
It
is
monday
monday.
No,
yes,
monday
march
8th
is
the
date.
The
time
is
6
03
pm,
I'm
stephen
ward
chair
and
I'm
calling
this
meeting
to
order
with
the
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
D
D
Okay-
and
we
know
chairperson
ward-
is
here.
D
That's
okay:
okay,
janet
is
here
committee
member
labe
here
here
committee
member
frasier.
D
Thank
you,
yeah
gotcha,
okay.
I
think
that
was
everyone
everybody's
moving
around
is
there
anyone
that
I
missed.
D
B
All
right,
so
that
brings
us
to
the
next
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
recognition
of
public
comment.
Just
a
couple
of
notes.
Before
we
begin
public
comment,
we
do
ask
you
to
limit
your
comment
to
three
minutes.
The
clerk
will
keep
time
and
give
you
a
warning
at
one
minute
before
we
begin
public
comment,
I
just
want
to
review
the
goals
and
status
of
the
current
committee
for
clarity.
B
B
We've
already
had
one
set
of
proposals
that
have
come
in
and
those
have
been
rejected
and
we
are
currently
working
on
a
new
rfp
in
order
to
find
something
that
benefits
everyone
and
is
acceptable
to
the
haulers
with
that.
If
you
are
here
from
the
committee
from
the
community
rather-
and
you
would
like
to
give
public
comment,
please
raise
your
hand.
E
So
if
I'm
understanding
this
correctly,
what
you
just
put
up
on
the
screen
chair
award,
it
says
that
nothing
has
been
defined.
Yet.
Is
that
correct?
E
B
Been
decided
or
finally,
yet
we've
not
made
a
decision
on
on
a
trash
hauler
to
be
adopted
by
the
city.
We've
not
made
a
decision
on
whether
or
not
a
trash
hauler
would
be
adopted
by
the
city.
The
only
thing
we've
done
is
worked
through
certain
recommendations,
which
we
will
review
in
total
at
a
subsequent
meeting.
In
order
to
prepare
the
proposal
of
the
request
for
proposals
that
will
go
out.
E
E
B
Believe
the
intent
going
forward
remember
brown
is
to
review
those
as
a
whole
and
if
adjustments
need
to
be
made
at
that
time,
I
think
the
committee
has
a
right
to
reconsider
decisions
that
have
been
made
up
to
that
point.
D
G
B
A
Sorry
about
that
helps
to
unmute
janet
lundqvist
for
public
works.
I'm
the
deputy
director
over
operations
of
maintenance,
I'm
filling
in
this
evening
for
maria
d'andrea,
our
beloved
director
and
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
go
through
some
of
the
policy
items
that
you
guys
have
been
working
on
as
a
group
this
evening.
So
the
the
couple
items
we'll
go
ahead
and
discuss
together
is
the
administrative
fee,
the
use
of
collected
penalties
and
then
the
citizen
assistant
program
or
cap.
A
So
is
the
screen
wide
enough?
Do
you
need
me
to
blow
this
up
a
little
bit
for
you
guys
to
see
or
is?
Can
you
read
it?
A
Okay,
I'll
just
look
for
some
marks
if
it's
good,
okay,
okay,
so
to
begin
with,
we've
identified
two
full-time
employees
and
one
part-time
employee
to
actually
maintain
or
operate
the
garbage
program.
A
These
values
that
you
see
here
do
include
the
salary
benefit
and
taxes
and
then,
where
we
go
up
and
determine
the
administrative
fee,
you'll
see
the
salaries
and
it's
broken
down
in
that
annual
cost
then
also
broken
down
over
a
rate
per
household
and
then
the
number
of
households
that
we
have
within
the
city.
A
And
then
we
also
have
an
amount
for
mailers
which
are
still
very
popular
in
the
city
of
inglewood.
Just
passing,
information
from
the
city
to
our
citizens
and
you'll
see
that
yearly
cost
and
then
the
rate
per
household.
A
This
breaks
down
to
about
twenty
four
dollars
and
fifty
five
cents
per
household
or
two
dollars
and
five
cents
per
household
per
month,
and
and
so
the
big
question
that
we
have
right
now
for
you
guys.
A
Knowing
this
administrative
fee
is
if
the
administrative
fee
should
be
charged
all
households,
even
if
they
opt
out
for
service
because
they
do
get
the
benefit
of
the
code
enforcement
services
that
are
applied
through
the
city
and
then
also
any
informational
mailers
that
go
out
maria
has
a
note
here
about
the
city
of
golden
in
her
contact
with
them.
A
They
had
said
that
when
they
started
their
service,
they
originally
in
back
in
2010.
A
They
had
three
percent
of
households
opt
out,
but
as
time
is
gone,
less
and
less
households
have
opted
out
of
the
services,
and
now
it's
at
1.5
and
with
that
I'll,
go
ahead
and
pause
to
get
feedback
from
the
committee.
B
Thank
you,
kanji
you're.
First.
F
Thanks
yeah,
I'm
just
wondering
if
we're
going
to
consider
the
increase
in
this
fees
in
parallel
with
the
increase
of
payments
for
the
service.
A
This
is
this
service
fee
is
a
part
of
the
overall
service,
so
I
think
they're
gonna
have
a
service
fee,
plus
this
two
dollars
and
five
cents.
If
that
answers
your
question.
F
No,
let
me
clarify
so
so
we're
seeing
an
increase
in
the
payments
that
we're
going
to
make
year
over
year,
considering
inflation,
and
so
I'm
wondering
as
we
go
on
right,
so
would
this
would
this
position
be
capped?
Are
we
going
to
say
that
this
person
is
never
going
to
earn
any
more
than
what
we've
allocated
currently
or
do
we
see
any
increase
in
these
fees?
Year-Over-Year.
A
Oh,
I'm
not
sure
if
that
has
been
determined
yet
so
I'm
not
sure
that
we
would
say
that
this
amount
is
a
capped
as
as
we
move
forward.
I
think
this
is
the
initial
cost
for
these
services
for
this
initial
year,
and
probably
for
a
period
after
that,
but
that's
something
I
can
identify
for
an
answer
at
a
future
meeting.
G
I'm
curious
about
what
the
the
job
responsibilities
are
for
these,
like
it
it's
hard
for
me
to
understand
how
we
need
two
full-time
people
and
a
part-time
person
if
the
bulk
of
what's
going
to
be
provided,
is
being
provided
by
you
know
whatever
hauler
we
end
up,
you
know
if,
if
we
go
forward
with
this,
if
this
were
to
happen,
you
know
the
haulers
my
understanding,
the
hauler
is
supposed
to
be
responsible
for
dealing
with
customer
requests.
Complaints.
G
I
understand
the
plan
is
to
have
the
billing
go
on
the
water
bill
and
I'm
sure
that
there's
already
people
involved
in
managing
that
bill
for
the
city,
I'm
I'm
real
curious.
What
all
actually
is
involved
in
the
job
responsibilities
for
a
program
coordinator
and
billing,
specialist
administrative
assistant
full-time?
Is
that
broken
down
anywhere.
A
I'm
not
sure
if
there
is
a
job
description
associated
with
the
positions,
but
I
will
let
you
know
that
this
modeling
of
the
need
for
the
employees
is
set
up
to
mirror
what
we
do
for
our
current
utility
service,
whether
that's
our
water
water
service,
that
we
have
water
sewer
service
that
we
have
through
the
city.
So
looking
at
their
job
functions
that
they
have
for
both
for
that
group.
A
For
the
utilities
group,
that's
helped
define
what
we
would
need
for
the
garbage
and
recycling
person
as
far
as
managing
the
billing
from
the
city
side
and
then
also
the
code
enforcement
piece
to
make
sure
that
that's
maintained
as
far
as
a
specific
job
description
or
job
duties
that
would
apply
to
each
one.
I
don't
have
that
information
available
tonight,
but
can
make
a
request
for
it.
G
Yeah
I
mean
well
with
water
and
wastewater
and
sewage.
The
city
provides
those
services
entirely
right,
we're
not
outsourcing
the
providing
of
those
services
right.
A
No,
but
the
staffing
that
is
available
through
the
utilities
department
versus
what
they
do
for
building
billing
or
the
actual
administration
of
the
system
are
very
similar
to
what
our
setup
will
be
in
this
situation.
G
B
Thanks
carson
jeff
you're
next.
H
H
There
would
be
an
allocation
of
97
000
for
a
program
coordinator
and
78
thousand
dollars
for
a
billion
administrator.
Does
that
number
I
think
you
said:
does
that
include
benefits?
So
it's
not
like
just
straight
salary.
A
That's
correct
so
that
includes
their
sell
or
their
salary
benefit
in
taxes
that
the
city
pays.
So
that
is
not
the
salary
amount.
H
Got
it
I'm
just
trying
to
see
if
I
can
discern
from
this
chart,
rather
than
ask
you
something,
that's
redundant
on
it
here,
but
you
don't
have
any
idea
how
much
those
benefit
costs
are
per
year
and
not
my
company,
it's
pretty
it's
pretty
expensive.
A
Yeah
it's
one
of
the
more
expensive
amounts.
I
do
not
have
that
information
tonight,
but
I
can
ask
for
that
information
to
be
at
a
future
meeting.
H
That
sounds
about
right
from
my
experience
as
well
yeah
and
just
to
kind
of
piggyback
on
vice
chair,
green's
comment.
I
do
think
you
know,
particularly
on
the
program
coordinator
position.
I'm
I'm
curious
if
there's
a
draft
job
description
for
that
position
and
what
the
perceived
job
duties
for
that
position
would
be,
and
if
those
job
duties
will
be
100
specifically
limited
to
this
program.
H
I
fully
understand
you
know
we
need
at
least
one
person,
particularly
on
the
billing
side,
given
that
bills
would
come
from
the
city,
but
I
am.
I
am
just
a
little
bit
curious
about
what
the
program
coordinator
position
in
particular.
Certainly
I
understand
there'd
be
education.
There'd
be
another,
a
number
of
other
ongoing.
H
You
know
coordinations,
but
I
wonder
if
you
might
be
able
to
elaborate
a
little
bit
on
that
now
or
if,
in
the
future,
we
might
be
able
to
see
what
you
know
or
maybe
some
comparisons
from
other
cities
that
have
done
this
and
may
have
similar
positions.
What
their
job
descriptions
look
like.
I
don't
know
if
it's
possible
to
get
those.
A
I
think
we
could
probably
look
into
bringing
some
sample
job
descriptions,
whether
they're,
similar
to
the
ones
that
we're
seeing
in
our
utilities
group
to
kind
of
give
a
com
side
by
side
comparison
of
expectations
for
those
roles.
I've
made
a
note
here
that
we
definitely
want
to
bring
that
to
a
future
meeting.
I
know
our
our
next
meeting
together
is
going
to
be
the
q
and
a
with
the
various
haulers.
A
So
it
may
need
to
be
something
that
we
address
at
your
following
meeting
to
bring
that
information
for
your
review.
E
E
Okay,
so
deputy
director
lundqvist,
I
find
that
this
is
quite
a
bit
of
money
for
two
and
a
half
positions
myself,
but
people
have,
prior
to
me
speaking,
have
asked
for
a
little
bit
more
in
depth
about
what
their
duties
would
be.
So
I
do
appreciate
that,
and
I
think
someone
had
asked
what
about
pay
raises.
E
I
mean
I
would
expect
that
there
would
be
pay
raises
in
the
future.
I
would
expect
that
these
employees
would
expect
raises
so
where
would
the
money
come
from
those
raises?
Would
it
come
from
the
administrative
fee,
and
I
just
have
one
more
statement
to
make-
is
that
I
don't
believe
that
people
who
want
to
opt
out
should
pay
the
administrative
fee
since
they're
already
paying
a
fee
to
their
local
trash
company.
E
So,
thank
you,
oh
and
I'm
sorry,
one
more
thing
I
I
apologize.
There
was
a
graphic
that
you
had
on
the
screen
about
golden.
If
you
could,
or
I
would
like
to
see
other
cities
what
they're
paying
other
than
golden,
I
mean
I
would
like
maybe
a
few
other
comparisons,
if
that's
possible.
Thank
you.
B
Yeah,
I
think
that
information
would
be
helpful
as
well.
We
had
sheridan,
I
know
a
similar
program
in
commerce
city,
because
director
d'andrea
has
made
reference
to
it
and
and
now
golden.
I
A
And
put
the
notes
for
that
in
there,
so
we
definitely
want
to
put
a
breakdown
of
the
salary
versus
the
benefits.
We
also
want
a
description
of
the
job,
descriptions
or
duties
and
how
that
compares
to
what
we
see
in
utilities,
but
then
also
comparison
of
other
municipalities
and
their
staffing
for
it.
Do
I
have
that
correct.
B
That
is
what
I
heard.
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
raised.
So
I'll.
Take
this
opportunity
to
make
some
comments
myself.
I
I
appreciate
bringing
up
carson
that
you
know.
Perhaps
utilities
might
not
be
the
best
comparison.
Considering
that
a
large
portion
of
what's
being
done
here
is
outsourced,
I
think
that's
really
useful
information.
B
So
the
the
question
on
the
board
right
now
is:
does
the
administration
the
administrative
fee
gets
charged
to
all
households,
including
opt-out
households,
and
I
wonder
if
we
might
be
needing
some
more
information
to
make
that
decision
or
if
this
is
a
philosophical
decision
that
we
can
decide
on
now.
G
Well,
I
I
mean
I've
been
outspoken
on
saying
that
I
I
think
charging
opt
out
fee
is
a
bad
idea
all
along,
partly
because
I
think
it
is
gonna
raise
it's
gonna.
G
Should
we
find
a
deal
that
outside
of
opt
out
or
not,
is
a
good
deal
for
citizens,
meaning
it's
equivalent
or
better
service,
preferably
better,
because
it's
going
to
be
alley
and
street
and
equivalent
or
better
cost,
then
the
charging
an
opt-out
fee?
G
The
reality
is,
if
there's
a
single
hauler,
that's
providing
the
service
for
most
of
the
city.
Other
options
are
gonna,
go
away
because
it's
not
gonna
be
cost
effective
for
anybody
else
to
provide
service.
If
it's
a
house
here
a
house
there.
So
I
don't
see
why
we
even
consider
charging
an
opt-out,
because
it's
just
going
to
automatically
happen
and
by
charging
the
opt
out
we're
just
giving
fuel
to
the
fire
of
people.
Who
are
going
to
see
that
as
something
to
fight
about.
B
H
H
As
I
understand
it-
and
I
think
the
the
woman
from
eco
cycle
may
have
touched
on
this
when
she
gave
a
comment
at
the
last
meeting,
but
I
guess
so
kind
of
a
point
of
order
question:
are
we
discussing
opt-out
generally
right
now
or
just
as
applied
to
the
administrative
fee,
because
they
all
all
these
issues,
kind
of
intertwine.
H
Okay,
well
on
that
question,
because
we
had
previously
discussed
requiring
households
to
participate
in
the
program
that,
as
I
understand
it,
is
not
permissible
under
colorado.
A
lot
based
on
the
same
statute
we
were
discussing
at
the
last
meeting.
I
don't
have
the
exact
site
in
front
of
me,
but
I
can
provide
it
so
given
that
that
would
mean
that
folks
would
have
the
ability
to
opt
out
at
the
beginning
of
this
program,
meaning
not
not
give
it
a
chance
at
all,
because
you
know
change
is
scarier.
H
They
like
their
current
provider,
whatever
it
may
be.
I
know
many
of
the
similarly
situated
cities
and
towns
charge
some
sort
of
fee,
whether
it's
an
administrative
fee.
A
H
Not
I
think
it
was
loveland
who
charges
like
half
of
what
the
smallest
bin
would
cost
and
the
reason
for
that
is
because
haulers
themselves
want
some
sort
of
guarantee
when
they're
putting
you
know,
maybe
purchasing
trucks,
maybe
putting
a
huge
capital
investment
together
to
provide
the
citizens
of
englewood
with
what
I
certainly
hope
is
a
very
good
deal.
H
H
So
I'm
open
a
discussion
on
this,
but
my
thoughts,
if
we're
not,
if
we're
allowing
people
to
opt
out
off
the
bat,
would
be
that
an
admin
or
not
necessarily
an
admin
or
maybe
some
other
type
of
fee,
based
on
like
the
smallest
and
half
of
that,
or
something
like
that
could
be
a
reasonable
approach
here,
because
we
do
want
if
we
go
this
way
and
the
bid's
good
and
council
decides
to
do
it,
we
do
want
folks
participating
in
the
program,
otherwise
it
completely
defeats
the
purpose
of
taking
more
trucks
off
the
road
and
reducing
admissions
and-
and
you
know
the
impact
on
the
alleys
from
three
or
four
or
whatever
it
may
be
circling
every
time.
B
All
right,
felicia.
J
I
just
yeah,
I
I
agree
with
what
jeff
was
saying
and
I
I
my
thinking
is
similar
in
that
this
is
a
program
that,
whether
we
like
it
or
not,
will
require
some
investment
and
money
up
front,
and
so
I
feel
like
an
administrative
fee
for
the
opt
out,
hopefully
incentivizes
people
to
participate
and
the
more
people
participating
kind
of
the
better
deal
we're
able
to
get
for
kind
of
the
greater
community
and
yeah.
J
I
guess
I
just
I
feel,
like
the
administrative
fee
shouldn't
be
overwhelmingly
expensive,
but
just
with
what
we're
talking
about
being
something
small,
I
think,
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
hopefully,
like
I
said,
would
kind
of
incentivize
more
people
to
participate
in
the
program
which
would
hopefully
allow
for
just.
I
guess,
the
program
to
reach
its
full.
B
Capacity,
thank
you,
kanji
you're
next.
F
Yeah
just
wanna
echo
support
here
with
with
jeff
and
felicia
as
well.
I
think
just
playing
devil's
advocate
if
we
didn't
have
something
to
stave
off
folks
from
jumping
off
board
who's,
to
say
that
that
a
competitor
wouldn't
come
in
undercut
the
bid
for
a
year,
destroy
the
system
right
and
then
raise
rates
through
the
roof.
So
I
think
we've
seen
that
in
small
mom-and-pop
shops
or
and
mom-and-pop
shops
throughout
the
country.
F
So
I
just
want
to
just
be
play
devil's
advocate
here
and
then
provide
my
support
to
the
opt-out
fee
as
well.
B
E
Sorry,
I'm
kind
of
going
at
this
question
at
maybe
a
different
angle
than
others
are,
but
if
we
have
such
a
great
deal
on
the
table,
why
would
you
not
give
that?
E
Why
would
you
not
give
people
a
choice
to
make
whether
they
want
to
go
with
their
own
haulers
or
if
they
want
to
opt
out
of
this
program?
I
mean
if
we
can
get
that
that
single
payment,
if
we
can
get
that
so
low,
why
would
you
make
people
want
to
opt
in
when
they
don't
want
to,
and
also
my
feeling
is
member
frasier
said
this?
E
B
E
B
Yes,
okay,
as
long
as
our
recommendation
would
be
within
the
scope
of
the
project
that
we
have,
then
then
we
could
do
that
for
sure.
Okay,
thank
you
and
you're.
Next.
I
C
I
Want
to
echo,
I
guess
the
sentence
of
jeff
and
felicia
andersonji.
I
think
that
we
need
to
opt
out
c,
at
least
for
the
first
contract
period,
to
see
how
it
goes,
because
I
really
do.
D
I
That
part
of
what
is
important
about
this
project
is
to
get
everybody
on
board
at
first
get
it
established,
get
it
figured
out
and
figure
out
that,
hopefully
we
are
getting
the
best
possible
deal
even
with
the
administrative
fee,
and
that
way
we
can
show
that
this
is
an
excellent
program
that
people
will
want
to
stay
into
and
then
maybe
over
time.
We
talk
about
phasing
out
the
opt-out
fee
or
something
like
that,
but.
I
I
I
think
it's
an
integral
part
of
the
whole
thing.
I
sorry
it's
like
I
can't
remember,
but
didn't
even
decide
whether
there
was
a
delay
period.
That's
been
opt
out
and
started
the
contract
or
anything
like
that,
but
I
still
think
at
least
we
need
that
administrative
fee
to
kind
of
be
an
intent
to
get
people
to
give
it
a
try.
B
Thanks
jeff.
H
Yeah,
I
think
member
borman
brings
up
a
good
point
and
that
perhaps
you
know
an
admin
opt-out
fee
may
be
something
that
could
only
apply
like
in
the
first
year
of
the
program
or
the
first
year
or
two.
H
Just
to
clarify,
remember
brown's
comments
earlier
marcy,
I
wasn't
saying
that
you
know
council
decides.
This
council
makes
any
decision
on
whether
this
moves
forward
at
all
whether
that
goes
to
a
vote
of
the
citizens
or
council
decides.
It
is
also
up
to
council
or
folks
could
petition
to
put
this
on
the
ballot
if
it
moved
forward.
H
I
think
all
of
that
is
premature
because
we
haven't
seen
the
numbers
yet,
so
we
don't
even
know
if
we're
recommending
even
moving
forward
with
this
to
counsel
yet
so
I
just
want
to
we
keep
kind
of
going
through
the
same
cycle
of
confusion
about
where
we
are
in
the
process
and
what
our
authority
is.
And
yes,
we
will
review
the
rfp
as
a
committee
make
recommendations.
H
Those
recommendations
may
be
to
move
forward
with
a
program
if,
whether
we
as
a
committee
feel
the
numbers
look
good
and
it
could
be
a
good
deal
for
englewood.
But
I
wasn't
saying
by
talking
about
council
that
you
know
we
don't
go
to
a
vote
of
the
people.
I
do
think
I
do
think
there
are
issues
with
that.
As
far
as
flexibility
and
adjusting
down
the
road
that
could
be
problematic,
but
that's
not
the
conversation
at
this
time.
H
But
with
that
I
think
I
would
probably
like
to
make
a
motion,
and
my
motion
would
be
that
the
admin
fee
be
charged
to
those
who
do
opt
out
of
the
program
for
the
first
year
of
the
program.
B
All
right,
I
do
see
marcy
has
her
hand
raised.
So
I'm
I'm
gonna
ask
jeff
if
you
don't
mind
holding
that
motion
until
we
can
clear
the
floor.
B
You
and,
if
you'll,
allow
me
one
one
comment
before
your
before
we
call
for
seconds
on
your
emotions,
jeff,
I'm
I'm
pretty
torn
on
on
the
subject
generally
philosoph.
Philosophically
speaking,
I
I
do
have
some
problem
with
a
government
agency
coming
along
and
telling
people
that
they
are
going
to
be
charged
for
a
service,
whether
they
want
it
or
not,
and
so
the
opt-out
fee
does
cause
me
a
little
bit
of
heartburn.
B
Frankly,
so
you
know,
I'm
probably
gonna
be
at
no
vote
on
this
administrative
fee,
but
first
we
need
a
second,
so
jeff.
If
you
would
not
mind,
restating
your
motion
and
then
we
will
call
for
a
second
sure
thing.
H
And
you
know
for
the
ability
for
haulers
to
have
some
consistency
to
hopefully
propose
the
best
proposal
out
there.
My
motion
would
be
to
charge
the
administrative
opt-out
fee
to
all
englewood
citizens
who
opt
out
of
service
for
the
first
year
of
any
potential
program
to.
C
H
No,
so
my
motion
would
be
that
the
admin
fee
would
only
apply
for
the
first
year
now
to
be
evaluated
at
the
end
of
that
year.
It
could
be
extended.
I
think,
if
we
were
in
that
position,
it
would
probably
have
to
be
a
vote
of
counsel,
because
I
don't
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
standing
committee.
I
don't
know
that
anybody
here
wants
that
to
happen,
but
my
motion
in
the
text
of
the
motion
is
for
the
admin
fee
to
apply
for
the
first
year
of
any
potential
program.
H
I
do
think
it's
it's
important
to
have
some
sort
of
incentive
and
for
the
haulers
to
have
you
know
at
least
some
idea
of
what
they're
looking
at
financially
based
on
this
fee.
You
know
multiplying
it
by
probably
an
average
of
opt-outs
through
similarly
situated
cities.
So
so
now
I
hope
did
that
clarify
your
question.
Remember
vice
chair.
G
B
All
right,
brenda,
your
hand
is
raised.
C
Well,
I'm
just
going
to
speak
up
to
saying
I'm
for
the
opt
out
fee
and
the
reason
why
is
because
this
will
make
the
contract
more
attractive
for
competitors
to
deliver
pricing
because
of
the
economy
of
scale,
so
cost
advantages
happen
when
a
company
has
a
larger
scale
of
production
and
therefore
becomes
more
efficient
and
thereby
resulting
in
a
decreased
cost
per
unit,
so
they're
likely
to
give
us
a
cheaper
cost
if
they
know
that
there
is-
and
it's
not
meant
to
be
a
punishment
for
opting
out,
it's
meant
to
be
an
incentive
so
again
kind
of
like
we
were
talking
last
week
with
bringing
in
multi-unit
people
the
more
we
have
in
this.
C
B
B
We
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
Jeff.
If
I
may
restate
the
motion,
it
is
to
charge
the
administrative
fee
to
all
eligible
households
in
the
first
year,
subject
to
re-evaluation
thereafter
correct
and
that
was
moved
by
member
fraser
and
seconded
by
kanji,
and
if
the
clerk
would
please
call
the
role.
D
I
have
one
quick
question:
does
deputy
director
lundqvist
get
a
vote.
B
D
Okay,
I
didn't
know
if
I
was
supposed
to
call
her.
Thank
you
committee
member
hubka,.
C
D
Okay
committee
member
borman.
I
G
B
E
D
Okay
committee,
member
ko
ko
nabi
kawanabi:
yes,
yes
and
committee
member
frazier.
H
D
B
Thank
you
all
right.
I
believe
we
are
ready
for
the
next
slide
unless
there's
any
other
motions
or
anything
to
add.
A
Okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
forward,
so
this
next
section
here
that
we're
going
to
discuss
is
penalties.
You
guys
have
had
some
previous
motions
and
conversation
about
this,
so
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
just
give
a
quick
reminder
of
the
different
types
of
penalties
and
then
give
you
a
recap
of
your
previous
motions.
A
And
then
we
have
a
couple
of
questions
for
you,
so
the
first
penalty
or
action
that
we
would
have
is
commencement
of
collection
prior
to
7,
am
a.m
or
on
continuous
after
6
p.m,
except
for
written
permission,
failure
to
collect
spilled
materials
from
the
contractors,
vehicles
or
equipment,
missed
pickups
resolution
of
customer
issues
or
failure
to
respond
to
customers
in
a
timely
manner,
leaking
fluids
from
contractor
vehicles
or
equipment,
or
failure
to
maintain
vehicles
in
accordance
with
the
requirements
of
the
rfp
and
then
collection
from
households
on
any
other
day
than
their
predetermined
route,
excluding
weather
or
holiday
schedules,
collection
of
recycled
materials
as
garbage
misrepresentation
by
contractor
in
records
or
reporting,
and
then
finally,
failure
to
provide
required
report,
billing
data
and
other
information
by
the
dates
outlined
by
the
rfp.
A
So
in
the
past,
the
committee
has
made
motions
on
february,
8
2021
to
keep
the
penalties
as
presented,
except
for
the
response
for
the
reduction
to
the
one
business
day
and
then
also
provide
one
month,
credit
to
any
out
household,
where
the
hauler
received
a
penalty
for
a
missed,
pickup
or
failure
to
resolve
a
customer
issue.
A
Also,
the
remainder
of
the
penalties
should
be
reset
reassigned
or
allocated
two-thirds
to
the
customer
assistant
program
and
one-third
to
the
education
program.
That
will
be
a
part
of
the
overall
program.
I
think
the
big
question
that
we
have
for
you
guys
this
evening
is:
are
there
any
other
elements
related
to
the
penalties
that
the
committee
would
like
to
see
to
this
evening?.
B
G
Thank
you.
One
thing
I
just
noticed
on
the
key
penalties
as
presented,
except
the
response
was
reduced
to
one
business
day.
That's
not
yet
reflected
in
your
grid.
It
still
says
two
business
days,
I'm
just
just
pointing
that
out.
You
guys
have
made
a
plan
to
already
change
that,
but
I
also
wanted
to
you
know
I
brought
this
up
in
our
last
meeting.
G
It
was
related
to
the
one
of
the
documents
that
member
fraser
gave
us
and
what
I
believe
was
included
in
the
packet,
if
not
just
distributed
to
all
of
us,
but
it
it
has
state
recommendations
for
municipalities
and
one
of
those
I
mean,
there's
several
recommendations
in
there
that
I
pointed
out
and
asked
director
d'andrea
about,
especially
in
regard
to
the
data
reporting.
A
She
has
not
updated
the
information
based
off
of
the
previous
request.
I
think
at
this
point
she
wanted
to
get
through
this
whole
piece
and
get
the
direction
that
we
have
here
and
then
cycle
back
to
address
those
issues.
G
Yet
access
to
data
is
very
limited
of
the
140
plus
cities
and
towns.
We
contacted
less
than
40
were
able
to
report
a
recycling
rate.
We
recommend
cities
use
the
free
data
tools
available
through
the
municipal
measurement
program.
Using
this
national
platform
helps
to
ensure
that
recycling
data
is
reported
consistently
between
communities
and
across
the
u.s.
So
and
then
it
goes
into
further
details
on
the
data
collection.
So
I'd
like
to
have
the
description
of
the
penalties
around
the
the
data.
G
The
reporting
include
compliance
with
that
mmp
standard
that
the
state
is
recommending
that
cities
utilize
and
there's
no
reason
for
us
to
not
require
any
hauler
to
participate
in
that
level
of
detail,
if
not
better.
A
B
G
G
G
But
it's
it's
and
I
don't
know
the
details
of
what
this
is,
but
it's
a
referenced
program
and
set
of
tools
and
details
that,
if
we're
requiring
that
the
hauler
provide
that
they
could
get
penalties
for
for
inaccurate
reporting
or
other
data
that
they're
supposed
to
provide
us,
I'm
saying
that
I
think
that
the
description
of
what
they're
required
to
do
should
be
at
least
up
to
whatever
these
state
recommended
standards
are.
B
Okay,
that
was
the
part
that
I
missed,
so
it's
just
fleshing
out
that
particular
penalty.
The
five
hundred
dollar
penalty-
that's
listed
there
or
the
five.
A
Yeah,
I
think
it's
really
just
and
just
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
and
sorry
for
speaking
out
of
turn,
I'm
just
really
adding
the
language
within
these
two
vacant
spots.
Here
is
yeah.
B
Got
it
got
it
that
makes
that
crystal
clear?
I
did
want
to
honor
one
of
member
brinker's
suggestions.
She
was
not
able
to
join
us
tonight,
but
she
did
email
ahead
of
the
meeting
and
she
wondered
whether
it
would
be
whether
we
made
the
correct
decision
in
assigning
the
ratio
of
penalties
or
if
it
would
be
better
to
leave
that
open
to
a
calculation
done
by
staff
or
as
needed.
B
C
B
We
did
talk
about.
I
think
she
was
somewhat
loosely
requesting
reconsideration,
but
since
she's
not
here
to
advocate
for
that
tonight,
you
may
hear
from
her
on
that
subsequent
meetings,
carson.
G
Just
to
clarify
was
she
talking
about
potentially
changing
it,
so
that
the
that
we're
not
specifying
that
two-thirds
of
it
go
to
the
assistance
program?
Yeah?
Okay,
I
I
do
think
the
bulk
of
it
should
go
to
that.
So.
B
Anyway,
yeah
doesn't
sound
like
he
has
legs
tonight,
so
I
just
wanted
to
honor
her
request
and
mention
that
what
is
the
action
for
us
here?
Are
there
any
other
elements
related
to
penalties
that
we
would
like
to
see.
B
H
A
Okay,
moving
right
along
so
the
customer
assistant
programmer
cap.
We
are
working
closely
with
our
utilities
department,
which
I
just
launched
a
study
with
stantec
in
evaluating
some
options
for
customer
assistant
program.
We
intend
to
probably
model
a
lot
of
the
system
for
garbage
collection,
also
to
what
they're
doing
similar
with
the
utilities,
so
the
water,
sanitary
and
storm
water.
A
These
programs
are
widely
available
across
the
country.
How
they're
actually
applied
are
is
where
we'll
see
the
rub.
So
our
cap
program
through
the
city
of
inglewood,
that's
currently
looking
at,
is
actually
looking
at
income
based
versus
age
based
and
so
you'll
see
over.
Here
they
have
the
the
medium
income
for
for
for
the
us
colorado
and
then
inglewood
itself,
we're
we're
just
slightly
below
that
amount
there
and
so
maria
had
suggested.
I
actually
watched
the
presentation
as
well.
A
I
was
not
able
to
get
this
link
to
work
when
I
went
through,
but
if
you
do
go
on
to
the
city
page
and
just
look
under
the
study
sessions
for
january
4th,
it's
the
first
item
on
that
video
and
I
think
it's
really
worth
a
watch.
If
you
haven't
watched
it
already,
that
really
explains
some
of
the
details
of
the
study
that
they
performed
and
just
the
breakdown
of
how
they
determine
these
numbers
and
how
that
applies
to
the
city
of
englewood.
A
So
for
another
example,
maria
was
able
to
find
an
example
in
haroldsboro
county
florida,
where
it
was
based
off
of
the
senior
citizen
discount
for
their
trash
bill.
It
does
allow
for
29
percent
of
a
reduction.
It
didn't
really
state
100
like
where
those
magic
numbers
came
from
from
their
website,
but
this
was
an
example
to
show
you
a
variation
of
the
type
of
program
that
could
be
instituted.
A
They
did
have
to
pay
for
a
hundred
percent
of
the
collection
costs
for
their
services,
but
then
they
had
a
discount
that
was
applied
monthly.
On
top
of
that
this,
this
link
all
I
I
think
this
one
worked
when
I
had
checked
it,
but
as
a
precaution,
we
may
just
send
you
out
an
email
of
those
links,
so
you
can
have
easier
access
to
the
information.
B
A
A
So
then
what
we
were
looking
at
when
we're
evaluating
the
cap
program
was
eligibility.
Two
percent
or
two
hundred
percent
excuse
me
of
the
proper
profit
of
the
poverty
level
based
off
of
income,
not
off
of
the
hb
system.
We're
we're
recommending
a
ten
of
the
monthly
bill
which
I'll
go
into
more
detail
on
this
next
slide
and
the
funding
source
for
this
kind
of
ties.
Back
to
the
previous
conversation
that
you
had
about
mem.
A
That
member
bringer
I
brought
up
is
that
the
penalties
are
maybe
a
great
way
to
fund
this
system
and
then
also
voluntary
contributions
to
the
program,
and
we
may
have
to
require
an
initial
contribution
to
be
paid
from
the
general
fund
to
kind
of
kick
things
off.
A
We
cannot,
however,
just
kind
of
apply
a
fee
across
the
board
for
the
program,
so
we
can't
wrap
peter
to
pay
paul
as
it
were
so
charging
somebody
a
higher
rate
or
a
penalty
and
or
charge
them
a
rate
to
pay
to
fund
the
program
so
applying
that
two-thirds
of
the
penalty
cost
may
be
a
good
way
to
contribute
to
this
overall
fund
and
then
we'd
like
to
follow
a
similar
application
process
to
what
we
apply
through
our
utilities
program,
and
then
it
would
also
appear
on
the
monthly
bill
through
the
course
of
the
10
stan
tech,
investigation
and
utilities.
A
There
is
a
program
through
arapahoe
county
that
this
that
the
cap
program
could
be
administered
through.
They
are
well
suited
to
help
administer
this
fee
at
the
county
level,
and
then
they
they
we
we
at
the
city
would
have
to
apply
a
small
administration
administrative
fee
to
arapahoe
county
to
maintain
the
program.
A
So
then,
moving
on
here,
this
next
slide
here
is
actually
from
the
original
rfp
that
we
had
from
republic
service
and
waste
management.
Some
of
the
proposals
they
had
made.
They
didn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me,
so
we
actually
kind
of
moved
forward
with
our
own
analysis
here
and
so
I'll.
Go
ahead
and
show
you
that
here,
so
I'm
looking
at
the
estimated
cost
of
the
garbage
or
of
the
service
would
be
288
dollars.
A
So
a
10
reduction
would
be
dollars
and
eighty
cents
over
a
year
and
that
would
break
down
to
a
monthly
cost
of
two
dollars
and
forty
cents
if
they
applied
for
the
program.
This
estimated
households
gain
comes
back
from
that
stantec
study.
So
in
their
study
they
identified
200
or
2
900
potential
households.
A
That
would
be
eligible
for
the
program.
However,
they
do
not
anticipate
that
all
households
that
would
have
the
program
available
to
them
would
actually
apply
for
the
program
itself.
We
have
put
in
a
thousand
a
thousand
households
just
as
an
estimate
to
kind
of
give
us
a
typical
and
then
a
more
conservative
worst
case
scenario
to
kind
of
see
what
that
cost
would
be
and
again
recommending
that
10
reduction.
G
A
I
actually
asked
the
same
question
so
if
we
were
to
administer
it
at
the
city
itself,
we
would
have
to
have
an
additional
staff
person
to
apply
those
applications
and
that
materials-
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
a
full-time
person
or
an
additional
part-time
person,
but
that
would
not
be
included
in
the
the
existing
staff
estimates
that
we've
currently
established
the
arapahoe
county
amount
of
that
administration.
F
Thanks
yeah
deputy
director,
I
had
a
question
as
far
as
do.
We
have
an
estimate
amount
of
the
possible
income
from
those
penalties
that
we
would
have
to
pay
for
this.
A
You
know
from
the
penalties,
I
don't
believe
we
have
an
actual
estimation,
because
it's
kind
of
one
of
those
things
where
you
want
to
assume
whatever
hauler
we
select
would
do
the
right
thing
and
not
contribute
or
would
have
to
pay
penalties.
So
we
don't
actually
have
a
value
associated
with
that,
which
is
why
I
think,
to
start
the
initial
program.
We
would
have
to
fund
it
through
the
general
fund
or
through
donations.
F
A
I
think
that's
a
very
good
question.
I
I
think
that's
something
that
the
city
council
would
have
to
definitely
weigh
in
on,
but
I
think
if
we
do
end
up
having
I'm
gonna
say
a
dream
hauler
that
gets
no
penalties.
I
think
that's
definitely
an
avenue
that
would
have
to
be
investigated
short
of
also,
maybe
additional
donations
from
you
know
a
very
charitable
folks,
contributing
to
that
fund.
Sure.
B
J
I
don't
know
if
it
would
go
anywhere,
but
I'm
just
wondering
if
it
might
be
worth
asking
when
we
interview
the
haulers
next
meeting.
If
they
have
any
like,
would
they
provide
any
discount
or
do
they
have
some
kind
of
criteria?
If
people
met
a
certain
threshold
for
income,
would
would
the
hauler
be
willing
to
reduce
their
rate
on
their
end
if
they
knew
there
were
x
amount
of
households?
J
That
would
be
paying
the
full
rate.
So
I
don't
know
it
could
again
not
go
anywhere,
I'm
just
wondering
if
it
might
be
worth
bringing
up
when
we
meet
with
them
and
also
just
to
know
like
do
they,
and
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
this,
so
I'm
ignorant
in
this
piece,
but
do
current,
do
any
of
the
current
inglewood
providers
have
any
programs
for
low-income
families.
I
don't
know.
G
Yeah
thanks
member
lib,
I
liked
those
too.
I
wondered
also
about
the
some
of
the
programs
that
member
frazier
had
brought
up
the
grants,
if
possibly
if
we
could
qualify
in
any
of
those
grants.
If
some
of
that
could
go
towards
the
assistance
or
not,
is
it
am
I
totally
off
on
that
member
fraser?
Where
were
the
programs
that
you
were
recommending
that
we
might
be
able
to
apply
for,
could
that
money
potentially
be
used?
That
way.
H
I
my
understanding
at
least
was.
It
was
intended
for,
like
education,
direct
support
for
waste
reduction,
but
I'd
have
to
take
another
look
at
the
fine
print
of
the
grants.
I
do
think
if
it
could
be
applied.
It
could
be
a
good
use
of
the
funds,
along
with
education
here,
potentially.
B
B
So
that
leads
me
to
the
to
the
conclusion.
It
wasn't
intended
to
be
a
rhetorical
question,
but
as
I'm
asking
and
I'm
thinking
through
it,
if
we're
going
to
suggest
that
a
program
like
this
get
gets
launched,
we
need
to
be
prepared
to
ask
council
to
dip
into
the
general
fund
for
the
seed
money
to
fund
the
program
and
also
to
be
prepared
in
future
budget
cycles,
to
continue
funding
such
a
program.
A
Well-
and
maybe
it's
also
an
investigation
kind
of
going
along
the
lines
of
vice
chair,
green's
ideas
of-
are
there
grants
available
in
this
kind
of
arena
where
we
can
fund
that,
maybe
not
ones
that
we've
identified
right
now,
but
things
that
we
may
have
a
future
potential
to
go
after
I,
you
know
there
is
almost
a
grant
for
just
about
anything
anymore.
A
B
I
would
say
the
odds
of
private
contribution
to
something
like
this
are:
are
pretty
low,
I'm
fairly
certain
that
anyone
who
would
potentially
say,
donate
a
house
or
some
real
estate
to
inglewood
would
want
to
have.
I
don't
know
a
senior
center
named
after
themselves,
rather
than
the
city's
trash
problem
program.
So
on
that
note,
kanji
you're
next.
F
That
was
funny
yeah
computer
director.
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
also
add
into
your
research
if
we
could
get
some
benchmarking
from
other
communities
that
are
providing
these
services
just
to
kind
of
see
what
kind
of
penalties
that
their
or
the
funds
that
they're
getting
in
from
these
other
organizations
or
communities.
A
Can
do
I'll
definitely
add
that
to
my
question
as
I'm
I'm
going
around
and
asking
about
the
staffing
it's
a
perfect
time,
I'm
already
going
to
be
calling
them
so.
J
H
Yeah,
sorry,
I
guess
I'm
just
thinking
through
this
and
thinking.
If
now
is
the
right
time
before
an
rfp's
issued
for
us
to
even
nail
this
down,
I
do
think
some
income
based
discount
is
is
totally
reasonable.
I
don't
necessarily
support
just
looking
at
age
alone.
I
think
income's
a
better
metric
for
those
who
should
be
eligible
for
the
program,
whether
they're
you
know
30
of
the
median
income
or,
however
you
would
you
would
categorize
an
income
based
level
need
for
assistance
and
how
you
determine
that,
I
I
would
assume
they
produce.
H
I
don't
know
documentation
a
w-2
or
something
like
that
to
qualify,
but
just
I
think,
the
more
targeted
it
can
be
to
those
with
actual
income
need
versus
just
looking
at
you
know,
age
alone,
I
think
there
are
probably
plenty
of
senior
citizens
who
can
afford
the
trash
service
and
overall
we're
hoping
to
have
a
discount
for
everyone
here.
I
hope
I
hope
the
rfps
come
back
like
that.
H
So,
let's
hope
that's
the
case,
because
trash
services
are
mandatory
for
everyone
as
it
stands
now,
but
I
just
think
it
should
be
as
targeted
as
possible,
but
I
totally
also
agree
that
we
shouldn't
be
banking
and
hanging
our
hat
just
on
penalties
alone.
Here,
because
you
know
I
I
doubt
we're
going
to
have
a
perfect
hauler
who
always
gets
it
right,
but
we
don't
want
to
plan
on
them.
Being
you
know
having
frequent
penalties
assessed.
H
A
In
oh,
it
looks
like
popped
off.
I
I
I'm
gonna
stop
sharing,
so
I
can
see
the
hands
here
and
I'll
I'll
just
try
to
facilitate,
until
or
unless
vice
chair,
green
you'd
like
to
facilitate
till
he's
able
to
hop
back
on.
G
A
G
Cool
yeah,
that's!
I
agree
that
that
is
the
right
way
to
do
it
did
anyone
else
have
anything
on
this.
A
Okay,
so
I
believe
our
next
item
here
is
reviewing
the
questions
that
we'll
have
with
the
haulers
at
our
next
meeting
here.
So
just
bear
with
me
one
second
here
and
I'll
get
our
questions
up.
A
Okay,
so
these
were
a
list
of
questions
that
originally
came
from
the
initial
rfp
that
we
collected
and
then
a
couple
of
ideas
that
we
had
that
maria
had
identified
as
well,
that
we
may
want
to
ask
them
the
haulers
for
our
meeting
on
the
is
it
the
22nd
or
the
23rd.
I
don't
have
a
calendar
in
front
of
me
to
identify
that
we'll
be
meeting
with
the
waste
haulers,
so
I
think
tonight
going
off
of
commit
committee
member
lap's
questions.
A
We
we
should
add
that
question
if
they
currently
have
a
low
income
discount
that
they
currently
offer
and
if
that's
something
that
can
be
replicated
if
they
do
have
an
rfp
or
if
they
submit
an
rfp
or
as
submit
as
part
of
the
rfp
for
for
the
city
of
inglewood.
A
So
I
do
have
that
identified
as
a
question
that
we
should
ask,
but
we
have
some
here
and
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
read
them
off
and
then,
if
you
have
anything
additionally
to
this,
we
can
add
those
questions
on
here
as
well.
A
So
the
intention
is:
is
that
I'll
be
sending
out
these
questions
this
week
to
potential
haulers
and
then
scheduling
them
in
for
30
minute
question
answer
sections
the
next
meeting,
I'm
hopeful
that
we'll
get
responses
back
from
them,
so
you
guys
can
review
them
in
advance
of
the
meeting
and
maybe
have
follow-up
questions
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
start
with
how
many
households
do
you
currently
serve
in
inglewood?
How
do
you
handle
households
that
have
excess
yard
waste
or
bundle
brands
branches
once
in
a
while?
A
Are
these
typical
included
in
the
monthly
price
of
regular
trash
pickup,
or
do
you
levy
a
separate
fee
for
each
instance?
Could
limited
pickup
be
cost
effective?
A
I'm
sorry,
couldn't
unlimited
pickup
be
a
cost-effective
option
for
the
city
to
consider
what
are
some
of
the
pros
and
cons
of
the
way
cons
of
pay
as
you
throw
program
versus
a
uniform
cart
size
program?
How
do
these
factors
affect
in
your
pricing
structure?
A
How
do
you
serve?
How
do
you
service
alley
pickups?
Would
this
pick
up
require
a
different
vehicle
than
is
used
in
pickup
in
streets?
Would
you
consider
an
electric
vehicles
for
your
fleet?
How
could
the
city
incentivize
the
use
of
electric
vehicles
would
it
be
effective
to
consider
a
pickup
at
apartment,
buildings
and
small
businesses?
A
A
What
are
some
elements
of
what
would
make
prices
in
inglewood,
higher
or
lower
than
nearby
cities
such
as
sheridan
or
nevada?
How
should
tipping
fees
be
handled?
Are
you
aware
of
any
other
cities
with
cap
programs,
if
so,
which
ones
what
contract
length
5
7
10
years?
Would
you
prefer
and
why
and
then
some
questions
regarding
composting
and
green
waste?
A
A
A
Large
item
pickup
question
would
be:
how
would
you
suggest
structuring
pickup
disposal
of
large
items
such
as
furniture,
mattresses
and
etc,
and
then
customer
service
questions?
What
is
your
current
and
average,
or
your
averaging
current
maximum
weight
on
hold
by
phone
and
waiting
for
an
agent?
B
A
Yes,
my
intention
is
to
send
these
these
questions
out
to
the
haulers
today
or
wednesday
at
the
latest
and
solicit
written
written
answers
so
that
we
can
best
use
your
time
with
them.
B
Awesome
thanks
and
secondly,
on
the
subject
of
fees.
If
you
scroll
down,
there's
a
question
about
the
how
their
fees
go
up,
what
has
been
your
annual
increase
in
average
customer
bills
from
2016
to
2020?
B
I
want
to
make
absolutely
crystal
clear
that
that
the
answer
to
that
question
needs
to
include
any
surcharge
or
other
type
of
fee
that
is
added
to
the
base
price.
B
I
don't
want
to
hear
what
your
base
price
is,
because
your
base
price
has
probably
been
25
dollars
for
the
last
five
years,
but
my
bill
just
reached
the
three
digit
mark
for
a
quarter,
because
the
fees
went
up,
the
base
price
hasn't
changed,
so
total
price
is
what
we're
looking
for
there
and
if
there's
a
way
for
us
to
clarify
that,
I
want
to
know
how
much
how
much
each
customer
is.
Writing
a
check
to
the
hauler
for
all
right
with
that
carson.
Your
first.
G
Thank
you.
What
does
unlimited
pickup
mean.
A
So
unlimited
pickup,
my
understanding,
is,
is
that
they
can
have
multiple
pickups
for
like
a
a
large
household
or
or
frequent
pickup
so
like
if
you
have
additional
needs
for
more
frequency.
A
A
Yeah
and
my
my
understanding
of
it
may
be
wrong,
but
maybe
we
can
clarify
that,
and
this
is
the
the
question
here:
could
unlimited
pick
up
be
a
cost-effective
option
for
the
city
so
yeah
we,
I
might
just
reword
that
one
to
be
more
clarifying
and
have
it
be
and
or
maybe
it
would
be
wetter
more
cost.
Effective
options
for
the
city
can
to
consider,
don't
necessarily
identify
it.
Just
specifically
is
unlimited.
Pickup
is.
Is
that
a
good
idea.
I
Can
I
just
jump
in
really
quick?
I
think
we
were
discussing
this
when
it
was
talking
about
multi-unit
residences
and
commercial.
I
believe
the
unlimited
yeah
that's
my
recollection
was
it
was
because
we
were
talking
about
how,
like
you
know,
some
of
those
really
big
complexes
only
have
like
two
dumpsters,
and
so
they
actually
picking
up
like
three
times
a
week
same
thing
with
commercial
sort
of
stuff.
Sometimes
they
need
a
larger
options.
G
A
Yeah,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
just
emailing,
brittany
or
myself,
the
questions
that
you
would
like
added
I'll
go
ahead
and
make
sure
that
they
get
added
to
what
we
distribute
to
the
haulers.
And
you
know
with
asking
for
this
information
in
advance.
I
don't
think
we
should
have
a
limitation
on
the
number
of
questions
that
we're
asking
them,
but
maybe
when
we
have
the
mo
more
focused
discussion,
maybe
know
that
we
may
not
get
verbal
answers
from
every
single
hauler.
With
the
limited
time
that
we
have.
B
F
So
my
customer
service
all
the
way
at
the
bottom.
I
think
we
could
add
in
here,
because
I
know
we
had
talked
about
gathering
data
points
around
the
errors.
So
I
don't
know
how
best
to
word
this,
but
getting
some
sort
of
question
in
there
about
their
historical
data
on
error
rates
for
their
customers
and
then
how
they
compensate
for
those
errors.
C
Yeah,
so
I
was
kind
of
confused
about
the
third
question.
Also.
I
thought
we
were
talking
about
large
item.
Pickup.
C
Could
large
item
pick
up
and
somehow
it
was
in
that
in
those
questions
right
there
because
we
do
have?
If
I
recall
that's,
one
of
our
biggest
concerns
is
getting
large
item
picked
up
at
the
house.
Is
that
one
of
the
questions
I'm
looking
at
it?
But
does
it
really.
A
Yeah,
I
don't
think
it's
really
reflected
in
what
we
have
here,
but
maybe
it's
creating
another
question
similar
to
this
one.
Do
you
have
a
service
to
retrieve
or
retrieve
large
item
pickups
and
have
that
in
that
lower
section?
Do
you
think
that
that
would
address
your
your
question?.
C
Well,
we've
asked
them
to
itemize
large
items
if
that
in
the
rfp
I
think
going
forward.
C
So
I
guess
it's
that
can
be
a
a
general
question
and
then
my
other
concern
is
kind
of
what
steve
raised
is
that
we
want
to
do
30
minutes
a
piece
for
each
presentation
in
one
night
for
each
hauler
that
responds
to
the
rfp.
Is
that
right?
C
C
I
think
that's
pretty
tight,
but
considering
that
they'll
be
able
to,
they
may
not
be
able
to
answer
all
our
questions
verbally,
though,
that
that
will
be
true
they
they
won't
be
able
to
probably
present
all
of
this
and
we'll
need
to
review
it
in
a
separate
meeting
unless
any.
Unless
the
committee
wants
to
consider
doing
one
a
night,
I
think
we
might
think
about
that.
So
we
can
spend
more
time
with
the
hauler
thoughts.
C
C
A
We
I
was
gonna,
try
to
get
multiple
haulers,
so
obviously
I'll
ask
waste
management
and
then
also
republic,
and
I'm
sorry
I
my
brain
is
not
helping
me
here.
I
think
there
was
a
two
other
hullers
that
we
were
going
to
invite.
A
B
Honestly,
I
think
that
would
work
better.
You
know
a
half
an
hour
is
a
really
short
amount
of
time
and
I
think
they'll
probably
be
quite
a
few
questions.
E
Okay,
I
was
just
curious
that
one
of
those
questions-
I
don't
see
it
out
there,
but
it
has
to
do
with
composting.
E
I
thought
that
this
committee
had
already
decided
that
we
would,
if
you
wanted,
to
do
composting
and
put
it
out
there
that
we
would
be
we
doing
that
on
our
own
or
going
to
another
business.
Am
I
right
on
that.
E
B
Another
company
would
potentially
be
an
option.
There
was
a
talk
about
issuing
a
separate
bid
for
composting,
as
well
as
allowing
the
responding
companies
to
provide
composting
services
in
their
proposals.
J
Maybe
I
missed
it,
but
is
there?
Are
there
questions
in
here
to
talk
about
the
different
bin
sizes.
A
A
Okay,
yeah.
No,
I
will.
I
will
kind
of
work
smith,
something
and
get
a
question
regarding
bins
in
in
there
for
for
their
response.
J
Thank
you
and
I
agree
with
having
one
night
per
hauler
if
that
feels
like
a
best
use
of
our
time,
not
to
be.
B
Rushed
all
right,
jeff.
H
Yeah,
I
I
also
agree,
I
think,
probably
one
night
per
hauler.
You
know
there's
so
many
details
floating
around
here
and
I
do
think
this
opportunity
is
really
important
for
us
to.
You
know
just
directly
engage
with
haulers
on
you
know.
How
can
we
make
this
work
and
be
the
cheapest
as
cheap
as
possible,
but
work
for
everyone
work
for
haulers
work
for
citizens.
I
think
this
is
really
our
chance
to
do
that.
So
at
least
an
hour
with
each
one,
I
think,
is
reasonable.
I
really
do
want
to
get
a
lot
of
haulers.
H
I
I
think
we
need
to
invite
them
like
asap,
including
waste
connections,
which
is
a
big
one.
That's
operating
that
did
not
submit
in
the
initial
rfp,
and
I
really
hope
that
they
will
in
this
round
the
discussion
about
composting
chair
award.
That
was
that
was
how
I
understood
it.
It's
not
mandatory
for
a
hauler
to
offer,
compost
and
we'll
also
accept
composting
bids
from
compost.
Only
providers
which
I
know
there
are
at
least
a
couple
of
out
there.
H
The
one
question
I
had
oh-
and
I
just
I
guess
I
wanted
to
clarify-
I
thought
we
were
going
to
send
these
questions
to
haulers
and
potentially
get
written
responses,
which
I
think
is.
That
is
okay,
good,
that
that
makes
a
ton
of
sense
to
me.
So
we're
not
just
going
through
this.
We
don't
want
to
overburden
them,
but
at
least
them
knowing
the
questions
going
into
these
discussions
and
hopefully
providing
some
written
responses
will
help
us,
keep
it
efficient
and
get
as
much
info
on
the
table
as
possible.
H
This
is
on
education,
given
that
these
haulers
operate
in
so
many
different
areas
across
the
state
country,
whatever
it
might
be
worth
asking,
especially
given
the
fact
that
we're
looking
at
bringing
a
lot
of
new
recyclers
into
the
mix
here,
learning
from
them
on
their
experience
as
to
what
sort
of
educational
initiatives
and
campaigns
have
proved
to
increase
the
recycling
rate
or
to
lower
the
rejection
rate,
for
instance,
you
know
new
recyclers,
probably
you
know,
might
not
know
to
like
wash
out
their
things
before
they
throw
them
in
which
can
contaminate
a
whole
bin
or
or
a
number
of
different
items,
and
I
think
that's
really
really
important
if,
if
one
of
our
shared
goals
is
waste
reduction
here,
because
education
is
going
to
have
to
go
hand
in
hand
with
that,
so
I
guess
the
question
I'd
propose.
H
Adding
would
be
something
like
what
educational
campaigns
have
you
seen
success
with
when
approaching
new
recyclers,
or
something
like
that.
I
think
that's
all.
I
had.
G
I
agree
with
making
the
time
with
each
hauler
be
longer
and
it
does
make
sense.
I
just
I
agree
with
the
direction
you
guys
are
going
on
that
at
least
an
hour
with
each
hauler
and
separate
separate
events
probably
does
make
sense,
and
also,
I
think,
it's
important
to
submit
these
questions,
get
written
responses
and
then
a
lot
of
the
that'll
probably
clear
out
a
lot
of
these
questions.
So
they
don't
necessarily
require
discussion,
and
then
we
can
focus
the
discussion
on
the
ones
that
aren't
clear
that
we
want
further
detail
on.
B
Awesome
that
does
potentially
make
scheduling
a
little
more
challenging.
I
think,
but
I
believe
we
have
consensus
on
the
committee.
If
there's
an
objection
to
having
these
meetings
occur
over
more
than
one
night,
you
can
go
ahead
and
raise
your
hand,
but
I
haven't
heard
anybody
vocally
object
and
I
believe
I've
heard
the
critical
number
agree
that
that's
probably
a
good
idea.
B
And
if
there's
a
reason,
why
why
that
doesn't
work
for
staff?
I
I'd
I'd,
be
willing
to
hear
that
for
sure,
but
we
want.
We
want
something
that
works
well
for
everybody
involved
in
it.
I
really
think
taking
more
time
with
the
haulers
is
probably
our
best
option,
given
the
failure
of
the
first
two
proposals.
A
Well,
and
if
I,
if
I
can
make
a
suggestion,
perhaps
what
we
do
is
we
plan
for
your
next
meeting
to
be
a
meeting
with
two
haulers?
That
would
give
us
an
hour
with
each
one
and
then
maybe
the
following
meeting
would
also
be
a
hauler
meeting
where
we'd
have
the
opportunity
for
two
two
additional
haulers.
A
A
But
if,
for
some
reason
I
find
a
much
larger
group,
I
think
we'll
we'll
reach
back
out
to
you
all
and
confirm
that
that's
okay,
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
kind
of
mark
out
our
next
two
meetings
as
holler
interviews.
B
That
works.
Well,
I
mean
if
we
have
two
haulers
in
the
next
night
and
we
have
additional
questions
remaining
for
the
same
haulers
and
no
other
haulers
scheduled.
There's.
No
reason
why
we
couldn't
invite
them
back
so
that
I
think
that
would
that
would
be
good.
Does
anybody
have
anything
additional
to
add
on
the
subject
of
questions
going
to
the
haulers
prior
to
meetings.
G
I'm
just
going
to
state
that
I'm
working
on
a
list
of
additional
questions
that
I'll
send
to
you
should
I
just
who
should
I
send
it
to.
A
If
you
can
send
them
directly
to
me,
that
would
be
great
carson,
so
it's
just
jay
lundqvist
at
inglewoodgov.com,
and
I
can
also
just
shoot
you
an
email.
So
you
can
just
hit
reply
and
submit
any
questions
you
have.
I
can
send
my
email
to
or
I
can
actually
email
the
whole
group.
If
that's
helpful,
for
anybody
to
send
any
additional
questions.
A
B
That's
not
too
much.
I
agree
with
that
for
a
while.
So,
okay,
I
I
think
that's
perfectly
reasonable.
Just
one
reminder
make
sure
you
bcc
the
committee
as
opposed
to
copying
everyone.
We
don't
want
to
be
exchanging
emails
with
one
another
as
a
committee.
So
if
you
see
that
make
sure
everybody
replies
to
you
and
nobody
else
needs
to
see
it.
D
A
B
We
call
that
pumpkin
time
in
my
house
there's
a
time
and
my
wife
turns
into
a
pumpkin
and
that's
that's
why
it's
called
pumpkin
time
anyway.
B
B
All
right:
well,
I
guess
that
brings
us
to
members
choice.
So
if
you
do
have
something
that
you
would
like
to
discuss
under
members
choice,
you
can
go
ahead
and
raise
your
hand.
B
B
I
don't
see
any
hands
raised,
so
oh
jeff
go
ahead.
H
Sorry
to
ruin
that,
for
you
all
I
wanted
to
say,
is
I'm
very
eager
to
get
an
rfp
out
and
really
really
hope.
We
get
a
lot
of
and
good
submissions
here.
I
hope
haulers
are
not
turned
off
by
the
initial
rejection.
I
do
think
it
was
necessary
and
I'm
optimistic,
but
we'll
see
what
the
numbers
say.
B
Thank
you.
I
concur.
I
think
you
know
it
hasn't
always
been
easy
on
this
committee.
We've
had
some
choppy
sessions,
but
we've
really
trudged
through
the
work
pretty
well
and
I
think
we're
at
a
pretty
good
point
now,
not
completely
done,
but
we've
accomplished
a
lot.
So
perhaps
we've
climbed
to
the
top
of
everest
and
we're
on
our
way
back
down.
So
with
that
it's
7
40
p.m.
I'm
not
seeing
any
hands
raised,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
adjourn
this
meeting
good
night.
Everybody.
Thank
you.