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F
C
We're
roping
in
our
final
straggler
of
brick,
so
we
can
make
for
him.
C
I
was
like
we
have
the
people
they're,
just
not
in
the
room,
and
you
just
take
a
big
trip
somewhere,
yeah
I
went
to
Greece,
oh,
how
was
that
it
was
beautiful.
Yeah
food
was
so
amazing.
I,
always
I
really
haven't
traveled
outside
the
country
that
much
besides
Mexico
and
a
vacation.
Well,
a
choir
ship
in
high
school
to
Prague,
but
I
have
the
memory
of
my
mother.
So
I
really
don't
remember
much
of
it
whenever
anyone
travels
abroad
and
they're
like
the
food
is
just
so
good.
C
I'm,
like
oh
I,
feel
like
I
like
gassing
it
up
like.
Maybe
it's
not
and
I
went
to
Greece
I
was
like
this
is
some
of
the
best
like
the
bread
was
so
good,
I
think
I
ate,
like
my
body
worth,
and
a
half
in
bread
yeah,
it
was
awesome.
We
did
get
hit
with
really
bad
weather,
though
really
did
you
know
how
Denver's
just
been
like
very
gloomy
and
rainy
that
was
kind
of.
F
Yeah
right,
no
we're
going
I'm
taking
my
three
oldest
backpacking
here
in
a.
F
F
F
How
old
are
they
12,
10.
C
B
B
G
A
C
I'm
Cara
from
Japan
since
2018
and
I've
been
on
this
committee.
You
know,
since
it
was
key
found,
Englewood,
beautiful,
I,
think
I'm
on
my
last
year:
I,
don't
know
how
it
works,
but
yeah,
that's
what
everyone
thinks
and
they
usually
yeah
right.
A
Great
thanks,
Karen
Evan
Anderson
Forester
with
the
city
of
Inglewood,
Michael
Chisholm,
chairperson,
been
in
Englewood
for
eight
years.
A
Hopefully,
we've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
minutes.
Any
questions,
Corrections
modifications,
so
that
it's
a
bus
meeting.
A
A
B
C
We
go
all
right,
so
we're
gonna
kick
things
off
today
with
a
treat
Warden
and
tree
protection
ordinance.
So
a
little
bit
of
background
on
May
8th
city
council
had
a
meeting
and
they
requested
that
the
sustainability
commission
kind
of
look
at
some.
Maybe
potential
tree
protection
ordinances
for
the
city.
From
what
I
understand,
there's
really
no
deadline,
no
timeline
on
this.
So
we
wanted
to
start
the
discussion
today
with
our
definite
expert
on
this,
our
sister
Urban
Forrester
Evan
Anderson
So.
C
Today
we're
going
to
hear
from
him
about
you
know
what
an
ordinance
is
learn
more
about
it.
We
can
all
them
all
over
it
and
then
probably
next
meeting
when
everyone
can
simmer
on
it,
create
a
memo
or
if
you
guys
want
two
meetings
really
whatever
you
all
want
to
do.
But
today
it's
just
to
kind
of
start
that
discussion,
so
Evan
has
a
presentation
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
show
here.
A
I'm
gonna
try
to
be
short
and
sweet,
but
if
anybody
has
a
question,
go
ahead
and
ask
it
whatever
it
comes
to
your
mind,
and
we
either
talk
about
it
right,
then,
or
maybe
say
that
the
very
end
of
the
presentation,
if
it's
something
I'm
going
to
talk
about
in
the
future
and
as
we
go
through
this
I'll
start
off
by
saying
that
I'm,
an
expert
in
Tree,
Care
and
Forestry,
not
an
expert
in
city
code.
A
So
when
I
start
talking
about
other
cities
and
their
codes
and
their
policies,
take
that
with
a
grain
of
salt,
you
know
I've
read
through
them,
I've
looked
through
it,
but
just
know
that
might
not
be
a
hundred
percent.
Accurate
I
even
found
trouble
ciphering
our
own
cities
code,
it's
in
a
few
different
places
here
and
there
so
feel
free
to
look
through
inglewoods.
A
You
know
perform
your
own
opinions
about
how
it's
interpreted
and
how
how
you
see
it,
because
there's
always
something
that
I
probably
missed
in
there
so
go
to
the
next
slide,
though,.
A
The
first
thing
I
say
about
what
what
is
the
point
in
having
a
tree
ordinance
like
what
is
it
trying
to
do,
and
you
can
see
right
there.
It's
establishing
how
a
community
maintains
and
protects
a
servant
Forest.
So
in
a
lot
of
urban
areas
without
influence,
usually
from
local
or
state
government,
people
will
ignore
trees,
they'll
see
them
as
an
obstacle
or
they'll,
say
I'm
going
to
build
this
house
I'm
going
to
do
this
I'm
going
to
remove
my
trees.
Look
at
all
these
other
ones.
A
It's
not
going
to
make
a
big
difference,
but
when
you
start
looking
at
the
forest
at
the
whole
as
an
urban
Forest,
not
as
individual
trees,
everybody
starts
doing
that.
Then
you
suddenly
start
seeing
a
huge
loss
in
your
Urban
Forest
canopy.
So
something
like
a
tree
ordinance
can
protect
Street
trees,
public
trees,
private
trees,
provide
guidelines
for
tree
protection
and
really
it
needs
to
be
flexible
and
needs
to
be
created
in
a
way
that
balances
all
the
different
interests
in
the
city
or
the
community.
A
The
different
values
you
have
around
trees
and
different
sort
of
Ethics.
You
have
whether
that's
environmental
ethics
or
economic
ethics,
whatever
it
is,
it's
sort
of
you
have
to
have
a
sort
of
balance
between
this,
and
this
is
why
you'll
see
in
Colorado
a
lot
of
tree
ordinance
is
very
similar
are
in
a
few
places
like
Boulder,
had
a
very
different
tree
ordinances,
but
across
the
country,
you'll
see
very
different
ways.
Tree
ordinances
are
built,
and
that's
because
of
this
balance
of
values
and
interests,
and
things
like
that.
A
And
this
is
the
basic
thing
about
how
a
tree
ordinance
is
built.
You
have
a
goal,
you
have
a
scope,
you
have
your
strategies,
your
standards,
who's.
A
For
it,
how
are
you
going
to
enforce
these
things?
That's
the
basic
idea
of
how
a
tree
ordinance
is
built,
and
they
all
of
them
have
these
things.
Now,
underneath
one
of
these
categories,
you
can
have
very
different
strategies,
very
different
standards,
but
every
tree
ordinance
needs
these
six
basic
things
for
the
next
one,
more.
A
And
so
let's
talk
about
what
we
have
in
Inglewood
now
and
if
anybody
noticed
something
that
I'm
missing
go
ahead
and
blurt
it
out.
So
we
have
our
in
our
city
code.
We
have
something
called
treason,
shrubs
and
that
outlines
like
the
tree
Advisory
Board,
who
is
responsible
for
right-of-way
trees
in
the
city,
which
is
the
property
owners
here
in
Inglewood,
planting
standards,
Tree
Care
standards,
removal
of
Street
trees,
prohibited
prohibited
things.
You
can't
do
to
trees
things
like
that,
and
then
we
have
in
more
of
the
building
code
side
of
things.
A
The
landscape
and
screening
is
what
it
was
called,
and
this
has
our
code,
such
as
size
requirements
for
trees
being
planted
at
new
developments.
Spacing
requirements
tends
to
structures
to
sends
the
sidewalks
a
credit
system
for
trees
being
preserved
and
sort
of
minimum
requirements.
You
have
to
have
in
your
landscape
number
of
treaties.
Things
like
that.
A
One
thing
that
sort
of
in
the
landscape
and
screening,
and
also
in
the
trees
and
shrubs
missing,
is
tree
protection.
So
in
the
city
code,
as
it's
written
now,
you
know
it
says
you
need
to
preserve
these
trees,
but
it
outlines
nothing
about
how
the
trees
need
to
be
preserved.
A
Like
what
process
do
you
need
to
use
who's
going
to
be
checking
on
it?
So
you
can
developers
and
Builders
can
use
that
as
a
way
to
yeah
I'm
going
to
protect
this
tree,
but
have
no
intention
of
having
it
survive,
which
is
really
common.
Why
tree
ordinances
need
some
teeth,
because
in
development,
it's
very
easy
for
developers
to
yeah
we're
going
to
protect
the
tree
and
actually
develop
the
property,
knowing
that
the
trees
are
going
to
die
and
they'll
be
removed,
because
construction
will
kill
most
trees?
A
So
a
tree
ordinance
needs
a
little
bit
of
teeth
and
needs
some
guidelines
in
order
to
be
effective,
I
haven't
lived
in
Inglewood
I've
only
worked
here
for
a
year
and
a
half
but
I,
don't
know
if
I've
ever
seen
a
tree
protection
fence
in
Inglewood
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
else
has
so
so
it's
obvious
that
which
a
basic
thing
for
tree
protections
keeping
people
away
from
the
tree
isn't
happening
in
Inglewood.
Even
though
it's
part
of
our
city
code
and
then
I
wrote
a
tree
protection
plan
for
Inglewood
Parks.
A
C
A
So
this
document
will
give
you
an
idea
of
what
tree
protection
looks
like
for
people
that
aren't
aware
of
what
you
need
to
do.
A
metal
fuel
scroll
down
and
I
can
note
that
I
send
you
this.
A
It
okay
I,
can
send
it
over
to
you.
So
if
anybody
wants
to
read
it
more
closely,
you
can.
This
is
the
basic
thing:
how
you
protect
trees.
First,
outline
the
site
figure
out.
What
trees
are
there?
You
figure
out
which
trees
you
want
to
protect
because
you
don't
normally
protect
every
single
tree,
some
trees
might
be
half
dead,
some
might
be
dangerous,
some
might
be
cracked,
some
might
be
species,
you
don't
want,
might
be
invasive
species.
A
A
And
then,
when
you
design
something
around
something
called
a
critical
roots
of
so
when
you're
looking
at
the
root
zone
of
a
tree,
a
lot
of
people
think
that
it's
a
deep
root
system
and
that's
not
really
true,
it's
more
like
a
plate.
So
the
tree.
If
this
iPad
is
a
root
Zone-
and
this
is
the
tree-
this
is
what
it
looks
like.
A
So
it's
90
of
your
roots
are
in
the
top
18
inches
and
it
goes
very
wide,
sometimes
twice
the
width
of
the
tree
depending
on
how
much
soil
you
have
around
it.
So
you
gotta
think
imagine
we're
trenching.
We
trench
right
there,
all
right.
We
just
lost
40
percent
of
Our
Roots.
How
can
we
sustain
this
canopy
with
with
only
60
of
our
root
system
and
that's
why
tree
protection
is
so
important?
So
first
we
just
Define
our
critical
root.
A
Zone
in
general,
you
do
one
foot
for
every
inch
of
TBH,
which
is
diameter
of
breast
height
four
and
a
half
feet
so
I'll
scroll
down
the
should
be
a
little
graphic
of
what
a
critical
root
Zone
looks
like,
and
you
can
divide
that
into
half
a
critical
root.
Zone
quarter,
critical
root,
Zone
and
the
idea
in
a
tree
protection
zone
is
what
you
build
after
a
vertical
root.
Zone
is
you're
trying
to
save
50
of
that
critical
root,
Zone
and
that
would
be
called
your
tree
protection
Zone.
C
A
A
quarter
of
critical
root
zone
so
see
that
there's
20
inch
Street.
You
never
want
to
do
anything
within
five
feet
of
the
tree.
Now,
adding
soil,
no
digging,
no
cutting
nothing!
You
get
closer
than
that,
you're
going
to
start
killing
the
tree,
and
you
also
make
the
tree
unstable
in
a
windstorm.
It
can
blow
out
of
the
ground
on
that
side
because
it's
lost
all
its
acreage
on
one
side
of
the
tree.
Does.
H
This
does
this
have
to
do
with
anything
to
do
with
the
soil
itself
and
what
how
it
anchors
to
the
soil
ice
cream
in
Highlands,
Ranch,
they're,
all
in
sand
and
that
whole
that
doesn't
work,
because
everything
was
six
inches
deep,
because
that's
what
everybody
had
as
far
as
soil,
but
is
it
vary
depending
on
the
soil
itself?
It.
A
Will
your
root
zone
won't
vary
normally,
and
if
you
have
sandy
soil,
it
might
vary
in
depth
a
little
bit,
because
the
roots
can
grow
deeper
since
there's
oxygen
deeper
in
the
soil,
but
in
general
how
the
root
system
work
is
it
goes
out
and
sends
acreant
Roots
down
like
little
little
tent
pegs
down.
So
that's
going
to
happen
in
whatever
soil
you
have
you'll
have
your
shallow
extrus,
Zone
and
clay
soil,
because
the
Roots
can't
grow
deep,
because
there's
no
Oxygen
so
usually
in
sandier
soil
I
actually
have
a
denser
root.
Zone.
H
A
So
definitely,
you
know
when
we
have
Clay
Our
Roots
are
even
higher
up
in
this
whole
profile,
so
it
does
make
a
difference,
but
not
enough
of
a
difference
where
you
could
change
how
we
protect
trees.
A
The
mouse
go
down
quick
and
there's
some
sort
of
guidelines
about.
You
know
little
things
that
we
do
scroll
down.
Again,
though,
this
is
what
like
tree
projection.
Zones
look
like
so
you
scroll
down
to
the
next
picture,
we'll
see
what
examples
of
what
half
of
a
critical
root
zone
is
different
shapes,
different
sizes,
but
none
of
them
get
within
that
quarter,
distance
and
they're
all
protecting
50
of
the
root
Zone.
These
are
all
minimum
sort
of
things.
A
A
So
that's
a
real
quick
overview
of
how
tree
protection
works,
and
that
is
something
that
the
city
is
missing
in
in
the
code
right
now
outlining
something
like
that.
Go
to
the
next
slide
and
let's
look
real
quick
at
what
some
other
communities
are
doing.
We're
going
to
go
real,
quick,
so
we'll
start
with
Denver
Denver
protects
their
public
and
right-of-way
trees
in
Denver.
They
have
a
lot
of
trees
in
the
grass
strip
between
the
side,
Sidewalk
and
the
curb
all
those
trees
are
protected
by
the
city
of
Denver.
A
If
you're
not
allowed
to
remove
one
you're
not
allowed
to
inject
one
without
a
permit
in
Inglewood,
we
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
those
streets
because
mostly
our
sidewalk
comes
right
to
the
curb.
There
are
a
few
blocks
that
sort
of
Northern
Inglewood
that
do,
but
we
don't
have
that
many
like
Denver
does
so
you
need
a
permit
to
do
anything
in
Denver
for
those
trees.
A
You
get
that
through
the
forestry
office
and
those
are
the
trees
that
are
protected
and
Denver
you'll,
see
Construction
in
Denver
you'll
see
the
chain
link
fence
around
the
trees,
you'll
notice
that
it's
normally
only
around
the
tree
in
the
grass
strip,
because
those
are
the
only
ones
that
are
protected
in
the
yard.
You
rarely
see
a
fence
because
they
don't
have
to
protect
those
in
the
same
way
in
Littleton,
oh
so
also
in
Denver.
They
don't
protect
trees
on
private
property.
A
That's
pretty
common!
Throughout
Colorado
in
in
Lakewood,
it's
a
little
bit
similar
to
to
Denver.
A
They
protect
trees
over
eight
inches.
They
go
out
and
actually
inspect
the
trees
on
new
developments,
apartment
buildings,
commercial
properties,
things
like
that
I,
don't
believe
they
do
it
for
single
family
homes
like
Renovations,
but
they
do
it
on
larger
developments
and
they
have
a
system
where
you
can
either
mitigate.
If
you're
removing
a
tree,
you
have
to
get
a
permit.
First,
that's
inspected
by
their
City
Forester.
A
Where
the
developments
Littleton
uses
a
very
similar
process,
you
need
a
permit
to
remove
trees
over
four
inches
in
Littleton
or
it's
something
that
they're
doing
is
coming
out
next
year.
I
was
sold
for
Littleton
is
a
fee
based
program
to
remove
trees
on
new
developments,
but
single
family
homes
will
be
exempt
from
the
fee
for
a
moving
trees.
So
only
for
commercial
and
high
density
residential
is.
A
Read
they
have
these
passwords
through
Council
government.
So
but
that's
that's
the
plan
and
that's
usually
how
this
is
done.
The
money
gets
funneled
somewhere
into
account
kit.
Those
trees
are
planted
back
into
that
District
or
area
or
neighborhood,
and
then
we
start
looking
at
other
places.
Austin
Texas
has
a
very
strong
tree,
Protection
Program,
so
strong
that
the
governor
is
trying
to
outlaw
all
tree
protection
ordinance
in
the
entire
State
it.
A
But
it's
it's
very
complicated
and
it
completely
inhibits
development
in
the
city,
which
is
why
developers
hate
it
tree
lovers,
love
it
so
treats
start
being
protected
at
eight
inches
once
they
get
24
inches
in
diameter.
Depending
on
what
species
they
are
they're
100
protected
once
they're
30
inches
in
them,
they're
100
protected.
You
cannot
dig
around
them.
You
cannot
get
inside
the
critical
root
zone
or
you'll
be
fine
about
in
the
city
and
they
find
you
by
an
inch
and
it's
it
doesn't
hit.
A
You
have
a
big,
huge
Oak
in
your
backyard
yeah.
You
can't
build
a
garage
so
I'm
from
Austin.
My
parents
built
a
garage
in
their
backyard.
They
had
to
spend
a
lot
of
money
at
their.
Their
garage
is
actually
elevated
off
the
ground.
It
looks
like
a
slab,
but
it's
a
floating
slab
because
they're
not
allowed
to
distrust
the
huge
40
inch
pecan
trees
that
are
on
all
three
sides
of
it,
so
their
garage
actually
doesn't.
A
It
has
little
Piers
that
hold
it
up,
even
though
it's
a
two-story
building,
so
you
know
that's
an
example
of
how
you
can
take
it.
A
little
bit
farther
Boulder
is
more
like
that
as
well.
They
have
different
values
around
trees,
how
they
want
to
protect
them.
So
if
you've
ever
been
to
Austin,
it
has
a
very
dense,
very
strong
tree
canopy
throughout
the
entire
city.
This
is
why,
because
you're
not
allowed
to
remove
the
trees
permits
are
required
for
everything.
A
It's
really
intense,
Salt
Lake
City
has
something
a
little
bit
similar
their
code
mandate
tree
protection
for
all
trees
during
construction.
You
have
to
have
permits
to
remove
anything.
They
have
specimen
trees
based
on
species
based
on
what
their
City
Forester
says,
the
specimen
tree
and
those
have
to
be
protected.
You
have
to
replant
two
inches
of
diameter
for
every
one
inch
you
remove
on
your
property.
If
you
don't
have
the
spacing,
then
they
they
charge
you.
A
So
you
have
to
pay
back,
not
really
sure
where
that
money
goes,
but
you
can
see
a
theme
here.
Basically
some
people
say
can't
remove
any
tree,
so
we
say:
oh,
you
can
remove,
but
you
have
to
pay
us
and
those
who,
like
or
or
you
do
nothing
and
those
are
the
kind
of
ways
that
a
lot
of
cities
go
through
their
tree
ornaments
to
protect
the
urban
Forest.
A
Oh
yeah,
there's
tons
of
exemptions,
so
in
any
of
these
anytime
there's
a
permit.
It's
going
to
be
inspected
by
a
Forester.
So
let's
say:
okay,
that's
a
tree
of
Heaven!
We
want
that
out
of
here.
It's
invasive
this
one's
rotten.
This
one
has
pine
beetles.
So
there
is
an
inspection
process
and
extensions
for
certain
species
that
we
don't
want
around
and
then
it
might
be.
You
might
see
this
little
two
inch
tree
wait
a
minute
that
is
a
very
important
species,
so
it
goes
both
ways.
There's
exceptions
on
both
sides.
D
A
So
there's
actually
an
air
gap
between
the
soil
and
the
slab
and
there's
Piers
holding
the
slab
up.
So
the
soil
is
actually
not
impacted
at
all.
So
there's
nothing
step,
there's
nothing
on
it.
There's
still
air
circulation.
My
arms
can
still
go
around,
so
it's
floating.
It
looks
like
a
slab
because
that
slides
on,
but
it's
actually
floating
so
you're
out,
like
we're
talking
about
the
root
zone.
A
So
instead
of
putting
the
slab
and
removing
a
large
part
of
the
root,
Zone
they're
only
doing
a
tiny
percentage
of
it
with
little
peers
that
are
drilled
down.
They
have
to
be
air
spaded
by
an
arborist
to
make
sure
they're
not
hitting
Roots
over
two
inches
in
diameter.
It's
a
process,
and
so
it
is
development
but
they're
doing
it
on
purpose
right.
So
otherwise
my
parents
would
remove
three
80
foot
tall
120
year
old,
pecan
trees.
A
There's
there's
my
mom
loves
the
tree,
harness
but
hates
it
when
it
affects
her
yeah
sure
and
that's
how
much
people
are
they
yeah
my
neighbor
keep
their
tree.
It
Shades
my
backyard:
oh
I
can't
build
my
patio
I
hate
it
now
and
it's
it's
really
common.
So
that's
that's
The,
Balancing
Act!
You
have
to
have
with
an
ordinance
so
things
that
that
we
can
do
things
we
can
talk
about
doing.
We
can
determine
what
what
goal
we
have.
What
are
we
trying
to
do?
A
Are
we
trying
to
inhibit
removal
of
any
tree
in
the
city
which
isn't
very
pragmatic?
It's
not
very
practical.
It's
never
going
to
happen.
Are
we
just
trying
to
do
it
for
huge
scrapes?
Are
we?
What
kind
of
exemptions
are
we
going
to
have
single
family
homes?
Are
we
only
going
to
Target
commercial
high
density
developments?
Are
we
going
to
Target
everybody?
A
Do
we
have
support
to
do
something
like
this?
Without
Community
Support
without
Council
support,
it's
going
to
go
nowhere
and
then
you
know
we
can
make
recommendations.
You
know
this
group
doesn't
and
myself
we
don't
make
policy.
We
can
only
make
recommendations
to
those
that
do
Bank
policy
decisions,
so
you
have
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we
choose,
whether
it's
fees
or
best
management
practices,
mitigation
preservation
strategies,
we
have
it's
something
that
will
work
for
Inglewood.
It
will
accomplish
the
goal
we
have
but
not
take
away.
A
And
so
we're
talking
about
roadblocks
like
do
we
have?
Is
there
support
for
something
like
this?
Does
the
city
even
have
the
infrastructure
to
do
something
like
this?
Can
you
say,
okay,
we're
going
to
protect
every
tree
of
these
species
over
10
inches
in
diameter,
who's
going
to
check
it,
I
think
I'd
go
to
me
like
how
how
does
that
work?
A
And
then
the
bureaucracy
of
government
like
how
do
we
create
this
policy?
How
do
we
push
it
through?
How
do
we
make
something
that
doesn't
just
add
more
red
tape
for
building
new
homes
and
the
people
developing
their
properties,
and
then
the
last
one
bill.
A
And
so
this
is
kind
of
where,
as
a
group,
you
know
discussing
these
ideas.
This
is
some
ways
forward
that
I
see
publishing
tree
protection
guidelines.
It's
a
guideline:
it's
not
a
policy,
it's
not
an
ordinance
but
like
let's
say
you
do
want
to
protect
this
tree
in
your
front
yard.
This
is
the
process.
How
you
do
it,
because
one
of
the
worst
things
you
can
do.
Is
you
love
this
tree
and
your
Builder
says
yeah
yeah,
we'll
protect
it,
we'll
perhaps
some
two
by
fours
around
it.
A
B
A
As
a
homeowner,
you
didn't
have
the
knowledge
to
say
no.
This
is
how
I'm
going
to
take
this
example.
The
city's
giving
me
this
is
how
we
protect
a
tree
this,
how
to
do
it
responsibly.
If
you're
going
to
do
it,
you
have
to
do
it
100.
You
can't
eighty
percent
protect
your
tree.
It's
dead,
you
might
as
well
10
protect
it
because
you're
going
to
get
the
same
outcome.
It
just
might
just
take
a
little
longer
so
kind
of
the
way
the
trees
die.
A
They're
talking
about
removing
their
roots,
less
Roots,
less
leaves
less
leaves
less
energy,
less
fruits,
and
so
it's
a
process.
The
tree
slowly
falls
apart
if
I
seen
that
in
trees
all
over
the
place.
It's
all
said
in
this
tree,
the
top
the
top
of
the
tree
dies
next
year,
there's
less
canopy,
there's
less
canopy,
less
canopy,
less
canopy,
less
canopy.
It's
not
a
downward
spiral.
A
All
that
started
from
somebody
building
a
new
driveway
somebody
trenching
for
a
new
irrigation
somebody
dumping
accidentally
dumping
concrete
around
the
base
of
the
tree
and
creating
a
huge
hard
layer,
and
these
things
have
an
impact,
but
it
takes
it
a
long
time
to
kill
a
tree.
So
first
we
have
to
let
people
know
how
to
do
it
properly.
A
We
could
suggest
having
that
information
published
somewhere,
there's
a
web
page
or
any
building
documents.
If
you
choose
to
protect
a
tree.
This
is
how
we
recommend
you
do
it
and
whether
we
want
to
look
at
looking
at
something
where
people
pay
I
know.
There's
a
credit
system
for
the
city
of
Inglewood
I'm,
not
100
sure
how
that
works.
But
the
credit
goes
towards.
A
But
doing
a
system
where
okay
you're
going
to
remove
these
trees?
Okay,
we're
gonna
charge
you
for
removing
these
treaties.
That
money
goes
directly
back
into
reforesting
that
same
district,
that
same
neighborhood
right.
So
we
can
use
that
money
to
buy
trees,
put
them
in
the
Parks,
put
them
on
the
streets,
distribute
it
to
people
that
want
to
plant
trees
in
that
neighborhood.
So
we
have
the
funding
and
yeah.
A
Where
there's
good
ideas,
what
other
people
think
I
have
like
a
I
have
my
own
view
on
it
as
a
forestry,
professional
But.
Ultimately,
it's
up
to
the
people
that
live
in
the
city
to
decide
what
they
want,
how
they
value
their
Forest,
how
they
think
what
what
they
think
their
role
is
in
their
neighbor's
truth.
Should
they
have
a
role?
Do
you
have
a
say
in
your
neighbor's
tree?
Do
you
have
a
say
in
the
trees
being
bulldozed
at
the
new
apartment?
Complex
and
that's
that's
the
question.
A
B
C
A
Everybody
jumped
in
whatever,
when
I
distill
this
down
we're
basically
talking
about
zoning
and
we're
talking
about
affecting
growth
and
development
in
the
city
and
I
I,
hear
you
there's
a
diversity
of
opinions
on
save
every
tree
versus
chop
every
tree
down
Etc
the
process
is
what
I'm
curious
about
right
now,
because.
A
The
role
of
sustainability,
commission
I
mean
we
would
have
debates
amongst
ourselves
and
we
all
consider
ourselves
sustainable
type
people.
But
how
would
you
hope
it
would
go?
How
would
you
hope
the
sustainability
commission
could
chime
in
could
get
the
ball
rolling
or
it
could
be
a
part
of
that
ball?
Roll
like
I'm
thinking
it's
going
to
take
time
for
the
process
to
unfold,
but
what
you
said,
for
example,
just
guidelines
for
a
homeowner
I
mean
I
learned
a
lot
just
here.
A
I
didn't
know
about
that
versus
that,
and
so
I
think
I'm
speaking
through
this
group
I
think
we
would
want
to
participate
in
some
way.
So
how
would
you
hope
we
might
be
able
to
participate
and
how
would
you
envision
a
process.
F
A
C
A
F
Would
say
this
is
this
is
one
where
Council
explicitly
said
yeah
we
want
advice
from
so
I
would
say
you
know
from
Council
perspective.
We
would
be
a
bit
disappointed
if
you
came
back
and
said
no.
A
A
Recommendations
on
it,
which
is
really
great
coming
from
my
perspective,
this
group
has
been
given
the
voice
that
I
that
I
don't
have
right
and
that's
and
that's
just
how
okay
and
that's
just
how
government
works
so
I
would
hope
that
this
group
takes
the
opportunity
to
really
look
at
this
and
since
they
have
been,
let's
say,
mandated
to
do.
Suggestions,
regulations
really.
D
A
Know
put
some
thought
into
it,
make
a
really
informed
recommendation
and
push
it
as
hard
as
you
can.
While
you
have
opportunity,
because
that
opportunity
does,
it
doesn't
come
like
from
my
opinion.
This
is
only
the
third
time
that
I've
ever
been
involver.
The
people
making
decisions
have
asked
usually
you're
just
constantly
just.
F
I
think
that
are
the
most
our
last
study
session
on
that,
where
Chelsea
brought
it
up
and
she
said,
could
we
consider
some
tree
protection
within
code
next
rewrite
and
my
response
among
I
think
other
council
members
was?
Maybe
you
know
with
the
something
we
need
to
do,
but
maybe
it's
not
it's
a
little
too
late
in
the
game
to
include
it
in
code
next,
let's
refer
it
to
sustainability
commission
to
come
up
with
some
recommendations
and
consider
it
for
a
tree.
You
know.
F
D
Be
a
subsequent
process,
I
think
some
low
hanging
fruit
is
the
city.
The
city
right
away
is
is
on
people's
property.
Those
trees,
I
think,
could
be
easily
protected
without
questioning,
but
you
know,
without
bringing
up
the
who
owns
it,
question
we're
letting
you
use
it,
but
we
own
it
be
one
easy
place
to
introduce
greater
tree
protection.
Another
one
I
think
we'd
have
more
trees,
survive
irrigation
projects
that
people
just
knew,
I.
Think
what
you
just
laid
out
with
the
where
to
trench
and
where
not
the
trench
would
be
extremely
helpful
just
to.
A
A
If
I
walk
over
and
cut
your
arm
up
and
go
throw
your
arm
the
car
in
the
garbage?
Are
you
gonna
grow
another
one?
Luckily,
trees
can
grow
noodles,
but
it's
it's
too
late.
Mature
trees,
trees
were
like
people,
the
older
you
get,
the
less.
You
want
change
yeah,
and
so
you
suddenly
do
something.
You
add
stuff.
You
put
soil
on
top
of
them,
they're
very
sensitive
yeah.
It's
been
there
for
100
years.
You
do,
you
can
kill
it
in
30
seconds.
D
H
Method
is
but
that's
well,
that's
low
hanging
fruit
right
there
that
you
know
the
information
that
you
provided
I
think
we
all
kind
of
did
an
aha
moment.
If
we
could,
you
know
put
that
as
a
as
a
piece
of
it.
I
think
that
makes
sense.
The
other
thing,
I,
think,
is
that
we
kind
of
need
to
separate,
maybe
public
and
private
in
terms
of
our
you
know,
sort
of
discussion
here,
because
I
think
that
you
know
we've
talked
a
lot
about
how
how
invasive
do
you
get
with
people's
properties?
H
You
know
that
whole
your
whole
story
is
a
good
example,
but
I
think
that,
in
terms
of
public
of
next
moving
forward
on
some
of
the
Zone
zoning
issues,
you
mentioned
that's
something
that
we
could
have
a
strong
effect.
F
I
would
that's
one
of
the
thoughts
that
I
heard
me
as
you
were
talking
you
mentioned
Boston
or
other
places
where
they
have
such
restrictive
tree
ordinances,
that
it
really
puts
a
damper
on
on
development
I
immediately,
you
know,
think
macro
and
said
what
does
that?
What
does
that
actually
accomplish?
You
know,
because
if
you
I
mean,
if
you,
if
you
say
we're
gonna,
have
such
such
restrictive
ordinance
here
that
nobody
can
build.
F
F
You
know
talking
about
that
balance
is
maybe
important
because,
yes,
maybe
you
saved
some
trees
in
your
neighborhood.
But
what
are
you
doing?
You
know
those
kind
of
if
you
have
an
urban
area.
That's
that's
a
good
place
to
potentially
develop,
but
you
want
to
save
your
tree
so
much
that
you
push
the
development
further.
A
A
F
Florida,
that's
the
other
thing
is
that
occurred
to
me,
like
you
know
any
for
some
people
who
don't
want
to
see
any
development
in
the
city.
This
is
just
another
tool,
you
know
and
that's
another
cool
news
you
can
make
it
super
restrictive
importance.
Then
this
will
keep
the
development
out
and
keep
and.
A
I
think
that's
where
this
group
can
contribute,
because
your
points
are
well
taken,
Joe,
the
other
side
of
the
coin
is
you
can
create
a
tree
ordinance
that
creates
a
design
challenge
for
a
designer.
So
if,
if
we
said
okay
you're
going
to
tear
down
150
year
old
oak
tree
to
put
in
a
Triplex
foreign,
you
need
to
put
in
for
oak
trees
of
a
diameter
of
X
because
we're
looking
at
that
corner
for
the
next
50
years.
A
So
there's
a
given
a
tape
there
so
that
I'm
making
this
up
but
I'm
thinking
a
tree
ordinance
could
also
put
the
incentive
or
the
design
challenge
in
front
of
the
developer.
If
you
want
to
build
that
here,
your
landscaping
and
your
tree
strategy
affects
whether
we
will
permit
it
and
we
want.
We
want
trees
in
Englewood.
Some
trees
have
got
to
go,
but
that
doesn't
mean
we
can't
encourage,
designing
and
planting
nutrients.
So
I
think
there
is
a
balance.
C
A
Another
thought
that
I
had
was,
we
could
go
on
all
night.
This
is
fascinating,
it
really
is,
but
one
of
my
thoughts
is
my
background.
In
planning
was
always
starting
with
a
vision.
You
know
a.
A
And
Englewood
for
the
next
50
years.
Well,
that's
fun,
because
you
can
just
imagine
Utopia,
you
know,
and
then
you
create
a
vision
statement
or
a
vision,
paragraph
or
whatever.
We
would
Envision
this
tree
canopy
and
then
go
wonder
what
happened
now.
That
would
take
us
some
time
to
even
agree
on
what
that
Vision,
but
I
would
like
to
think
we
could
get
the
ball
rolling.
A
So
if
we,
if
we
work
on
some
long-range
vision
for
trees
at
Englewood
and
then
the
other
thing
we
could
do
is
we
could
play
with
some
granular
statements
such
as
we
want
to
do
some
protection
on
trees
that
are
over
100
years
old.
We're
not
saying
no
trees
can
be
cut
but,
for
example,
in
my
neighborhood
I
have
two
neighbors
that
have
absolutely
beautiful
trees.
I
mean
they
haven't
just
there's,
there's
one:
it's
I
believe
it's
a
blue
spruce
and
it's
got
to
be
the
circumference
on
that.
A
Thing's
got
to
be
10
feet
if
not
bigger,
and
it
just
goes
straight
up.
It's
beautiful
and
it's
on
private
property.
But
the
thought
of
somebody
cutting
that
down
to
put
a
fourplex
in
makes
me
wonder
you
know,
but
we
could
grapple
with
some
of
those
statements
like
sentences
or
phraseology
to
say,
generally
speaking,
these
are
the
kinds
of
things
we'd
like
to
see.
A
These
are
the
kinds
of
things
we'd
not
like
to
see,
and
maybe
that
could
get
us
thinking
and
I'd
love
to
have
you
chime
in
review,
educate
us
as
we
build
that
Vision,
but
there's
nothing
stopping
us
from
putting
our
ideas
in
writing
and
there's
nothing
stopping
us
from
debating
amongst
ourselves
whether
this
is
a
good
idea
or
a
bad
idea.
I
don't
want
to
study
this
for
the
next
six
years.
You
know
if
we're
going
to
get
involved.
A
Let's
try
to
do
something
with
something
in
writing
and
I
suspect
we
can
come
up
with
something
a
starting
point.
It's
a
you're
just
Reinventing
the
wheel.
All
of
this
that
we're
talking
about
is
happening
all
over
the
world
right
now.
It's
already
whatever
plan
Englewood
comes
up
with
somebody
else
is
already
doing
it,
so
we
don't
have
to
get
real
crazy.
But
to
your
point,
you
have
to
be
really
pragmatic
about
how
you
go
about
these
things,
because
if
you
come
out
and
say
certain
things
in
certain
ways,
you're
gonna
shut
people
off
immediately.
A
A
A
You
know,
take
soft
steps
and
and
pick
your
battles
and,
and
you
don't
want
to
discourage
development.
You
want
to
encourage
sustainable
development.
You
want
to
encourage
proper
development,
you
know
one.
We
don't
really
have
this
in
Inglewood,
but
imagine
if
there
was
like
a
huge
sort
of
tree
lot:
five
acres
that
somebody
owned
for
a
long
time
and
then
oh,
they
pass
away
a
family
sells
it
and
they
they
pull
those
all
of
it
and
it
was
all
full
of
trees.
It
was
this
beautiful,
Green
Space,
yes,.
B
A
And
that's
that's
the
hard
part
Eaglewood
wants
to
develop.
You
know
they
want
to
have
people
be
allowed
to
build
on
their
properties,
but
to
a
point,
I
think,
that's
why
a
lot
of
these
cities
are
targeting
commercial
and
high
density
they're,
not
targeting
single
family
owners,
because
those
those
are
the
voters.
A
C
D
Of
logic
in
evaluating
when
it's
most
appropriate
to
introduce
where
to
introduce
the
ordinances
and
obviously
when
something's
changing
periodically
like
new
development,
is
a
more
natural
place
to
show
up
and
say,
hey
neighbors
watch
for
each
other,
make
sure
you
don't
trip
trees
without
a
permanent
would
be
Draconian
and
paying
for
them.
You
wouldn't
want
it.
That's
the
that's
a
it's
a
bridge
too
far,
so
I
think
yeah
I
think
trying
to
trying
to
figure
out
that
place
where
we
can,
but
but
I
do
think.
D
That's
that's
thoughtful
because
death
by
a
thousand
cut
skills.
Developments
too
like
if
we
say
every
forage
tree,
must
be
protected.
D
That
may
not
seem
like
a
big
deal,
but
if
it's
a
thousand
here
a
thousand
there
in
a
thousand
here
developers
just
say,
never
mind.
I'm
blowing
my
phone's
around
yeah,
so
all.
F
D
Terry
has
a
whole
bunch
of
Threes,
that's
right
and
to
all
of
those
imbalance,
I
think,
there's
there's
something
really
helpful
here
and
I
I'm
optimistic
that
I
don't
have
a
utility
in
view
that
education
solves
all
the
problems
with
you
just
said,
I
think
related
to
the
the
critical
root
Zone
would
be
tree.
D
Saving
for
people
who
just
have
just
didn't
know
any
better,
and
that's
that's
good,
and
the
thing
I
was
thinking
of
was
some
sort
of
we've
renamed
all
the
neighborhoods
somebody
in
each
one
of
those
neighborhood
who's,
an
activator,
the
next
door
or
a
person
that
everyone
listens
to.
It
doesn't
get
annoyed
by
can't,
say:
hey
I'm,
I'm
hosting
the
urban
Forester
at
a
party
on
Saturday.
Everybody
come
here
about
how
to
make
our
neighborhood
more
better.
A
That's
exactly
what
you
don't
want
to
do.
Can
you
be
surprised
how
many
parties
I
go
to
and
spend
the
whole
time
answering
tree
questions,
and
that's
why
you
know
these
these
just
some
ideas
that
I
threw
out
there.
These
are
both
very
common
things
that
are
happening
all
over
the
place,
especially
in
Colorado
these
two
ideas,
whether
it's
protecting
public
trees
so
like
we
talked
about
the
rider
which
is
Inglewood,
really
doesn't
have
that
many.
A
So
there's
a
few
blocks,
just
south
of
Yale
that
have
them
and
sort
of
intermixed
people
which
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
that
strip.
You
know
so
there's
not
a
lot
of
the
public
right-of-way
insurance
so
which
is
good
for
us,
because
it
you
have
to
have
the
infrastructure
to
enforce
all
this.
If
you
do
start
protecting
all
publicly
depression,
but
you've
got
to
have
something
out
there
somebody's
getting
a
permit
for
a
remodeling
their
house,
they
have
to
like
see
this,
so
at
least
they
know
came
back
like
okay.
A
This
is
you
kind
of
protect
that
training
record.
This
is
what
you
need
to
do
yeah,
so
education
can
I
help
this
happen.
Forcing
them
to
look
at
it
at
some
point:
yeah,
that's
right,
and
then
the
payment
process
is
very
common.
It's
a
it's
a
way
to
get
additional
funding,
we're
not
talking
about
huge
amounts
of
money.
You
know
in
a
lot
of
places
that
have
like
this
twelve
hundred
dollars
per
tree.
Well,
the
developers
just
bulldozed
it
and
pay
the
fine
it's
easier
than
going
through
the
process.
A
C
B
F
Forest
plan
or
strategy,
you
know
in
a
tree
canopy
plan
for
the
whole
city
or
if
we
need
to
adopt
something
like
that,
but
you
know
you
wouldn't
worry
about
every
little
tree.
If
you
know
every
year
we're
adding
you
know
so
many
tens
or
hundreds
of
new
trees
every
year-
and
you
know
that
would
be
awesome
if
you
know
25
years
from
now,
a
25-year
plus
tree
was
a
dime
a
dozen
oh.
F
If
we
lose
that
one,
it's
okay,
you
know
we
have
we're
just
covered
with
them
everywhere
right
and
to
have
a
plan
like
that
makes
each
tree
in
this
individual
tree
is
less
like
Mission
critical.
In
fact,
we
have
the
whole
plant,
the
whole
master
plan
in
place
yeah
and
the
ordinance
is
just
to
Aid
and
exit.
You
know
if
you're
gonna
have
some
feed
for
commercial
development
that
that's
their
domain
to
provide
at
least
one
funding
source
towards
executing
the
master.
You
know
tree
canopy
plan
or
whatever
it.
A
No,
so
that's
coming
out
of
our
budget
to
do
that.
If
we
had
additional
funding,
we
could
make
the
trees
cheaper
and
provide
more
of
them
to
you
and
then
get
more
on
that
line
where
we're
replacing
trees
privately,
the
only
plant
so
many
trees
in
the
Parks.
We
can't
just
have
a
forest.
It's
a
multi-use
areas
but
getting
trees
into
the
hands
of
the
homeowners
that
want
them
is
the
most
important
part
and
also
the
hardest
part.
Yeah
and
subsidizing
trees
is
one
of
the
best
ways
to
do
it.
Make
them
cheat.
F
A
Or
six
years
ago,
and
that's
the
point
of
the
program
so
but
these
programs
need
funding
and
if
there
was
a
change
in
park,
leadership
and
I
said:
hey
we're
not
cool
with
eating
eight
thousand
dollars
every
year
on
this.
Well,
you
need
an
additional
funding
source.
Maybe
this
is
a
way
to
provide
that
yeah.
That's
great!
So
there's
entire
cities
that
your
entire
reforestation
budget.
This
is
where
it
goes,
and.
A
C
F
F
Out
ideas
that
it
sounds
like
people
are
agreeable,
you
know
and
even
throw
out
numbers
for
what
those
which
could
be
we
would
in,
but
no
no,
no
residential
requirements.
You
know
re,
you
know
replanting
within
districts,
those
kind
of
things
like
you
know,
and
then
you
know
imagine
at
some
point
will
have
a
study
session
and
maybe
we'll
have
some
have
Mike
or
whoever
come
in
and
present.
The
ideas
to
city
council
and
the
city
council
will
take
that
input
and
then
give
direction
to
staff
to
to
write.
E
C
B
C
Motion
quicker
Spectrum,
rather
than
the
longer
Spectrum
you
know
next
couple
months
would
be
ideal.
I
think
you
know,
after
just
having
this
educational
session.
Thank
you
Evan,
for
presenting
the
further
we
get
away
from
it.
I
just
feel
like
the
information
gets
lost,
forgotten
about
fall
through
the
cracks
like
whatever
I
think
you
know.
While
it's
fresh,
we
should
kind
of
act
on
it.
Yeah.
A
We
will
have
an
opinion
guidelines
or
our
best
thoughts
back
to
you
in
two
months
or
three
months
or
two
weeks,
or
what?
What
do
you
think
would
be
I.
F
H
A
A
F
A
I
don't
know
I
always
like
to
call
it
tree.
Protection
is
like
a
very
common
term.
People
Iowa's
country
preservation,
because
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
we're
not
just
trying
to
protect
it,
trying
to
preserve
it
so
which
I
think
is
I,
think
of
protection,
and
it's
like
a
shield
like
preservation,
is
like
trying
to
like
not
just
not
hurt
it.
We're
trying
to
like.
A
Right
now
it's
a
small
City
like
I
said:
there's
a
limited
amount
like
I,
have
done
a
true
Kennedy
survey,
but
for
the
city,
hopefully
we'll
be
doing
another
one
soon.
A
A
Where
trees
can
even
grow
when
people
live,
you
know
you
have
huge
supportive
industrial
areas,
lots
of
Roads.
You
have
lots
of
parking,
lots,
lots
of
huge
buildings,
and
so
the
areas
we
can
grow
trees
are
relatively
small
in
the
city
fall
yards,
small
houses.
It's
not!
You
know
you
look
at
it.
Matthew!
Look
in
English,
it's
probably
a
bad
example.
When
you
look
at
Cherry
Hills
dark
green
big
yards,
they
can
have
big
trees,
spaced
out
inglewood's,
never
going
to
be
on
that
level
so
where
we
do
have
trees.
A
A
That
that's
a
great
question,
so
that
was
part
of
like
the
canopy
survey
like.
Where
are
we
in
the
city,
yeah,
okay
and
then
start
looking
down
at?
Why
are
we
missing
in
there?
Oh
we're
missing
there,
because
there's
nowhere
to
plant
trees,
because
the
yards
are
too
small
too
much
Hardscape
trees
need
space
as
well,
so
we
can
plant.
We
can
plant
the
tree
in
this
tinier.
It's
never
going
to
get
big.
A
B
A
A
Like
I
said,
if
you
could
talk
about
it
for
hours,
I
guess,
my
sort
of
final
point
will
be
that
I'm
here
as
like,
the
city's
Forester,
the
city's
tree
expert
I'll
be
a
resource
for
y'all
as
y'all.
Go
through
this
at
any
point,
reach
out
to
me
about
any
questions
or
want
you
to
look
at
something
or
think
about
something,
that's
what
that's!
A
What
I'm
here
for
I
have
my
own
opinions
and
I
think
the
opinion
of
this
group
is
going
to
add
a
little
bit
more
weight
since
you
have
been
tasked
with
this
and
I
would
say
that
as
a
tree,
professional
I,
hope
that
comes
out
of
this
is
something
that
can
move.
This
discussion
and
project
forward
take
the
first
step
on
what
is
going
to
be
a
multi-step
journey
to
get
even
close
to
where
it
could
be,
but
it's
a
wild
wild
striking,
while
iron
is
hot,
while
they're
asking
for
your
opinion.
A
That
we
get
the
ideas,
absolutely
I,
I
was
wondering
Mel
stand
within
the
parameters
and
the
guidelines
of
our
Communications.
A
Could
we
could
we
invite
ourselves
to
send
to
you
bullet
points,
thoughts,
sentences,
paragraphs
because
the
way
I,
sometimes
I,
just
get
thinking
and
I
and
I
would
for
one
like
just
send
it
to
you
and
then
maybe,
if
others
did,
that
you
might
even
compile
it
into
a
very
very
rough
summary
of
here
are
some
ideas.
You
guys
sent
me
and
then
we
could
talk
off
about
initial
piece.
H
I
think
I've
got
a
question
for
you.
Do
you,
you
have
sources
that
you
were
going
through
for
some
of
the
Cities.
Do
they
actually
have
this
within
their
within
their
ordinances?
Is
there
could
you
possibly
provide
some
links
or
something
like
that,
so
we
could
maybe
review
some
of
those
things.
That's.
A
A
great
idea
I
can
I,
was
just
Google
searching
and
going
through.
Like
the
you
know,
little
code
websites
that
have
every
single
cities
code,
including
wood
on
them
and
just
search
the
word
trees.
No,
like
that's
that's
what
I
was
doing.
I
mean
these
documents
are
yeah,
it's
a
lot
and
it's
in
a
lot
of
different
ingredients,
because
you
have
about
vegetation,
you
have
about
planning,
I've,
got
landscape
and
it's
in
different
parts
of
city
codes.
A
So
if
you
said
Boulder
City
code
tree,
if
you
say
Boulder
City
codes,
it'll
take
you
to
a
website,
you
open
up
that
link
and
then
out
of
the
search
box,
you
just
put
trees
and
then
it's
you're
going
to
have
10
000
by
cold.
You
have
like
40
000
results
for
all
their
different
trees,
the
lake.
What
do
you
get
the
same
thing?
Inglewood
will
get
the
same
thing.
That's
how
I
went
through
our
commitment,
it's
in
multiple
different
sections,
and
you
said:
Houston,
you
wouldn't
get
anything!
Oh
you
would
somebody
follows
it.
A
Thank
you,
Evan.
Is
there
any
other
questions
or
anything
we
need
to?
Oh.
Thank
you
very
much.
Well,
we've
got
them
here,
I'm
going
to
get
him
some
biochar,
so
you
can
there
you
go
into
some
biochar,
the
city
already
paid
for
it.
So
yeah
have
fun.
He
makes
his
own.
So
if
you
can,
you
can
lecture
us
on
that,
but
this
has
been
very
helpful
and
I.
I.
Think
I
think
we've
got
some
energy
here
and
we
might
wanna
put
some
thoughts
on
writing
and
get
back
to
the
council
with
some
ideas.
A
B
A
A
C
Right
right,
the
next
thing
I
asked
the
mid-year
sustainability
update
with
it
being
June.
We
thought
this
would
be
a
good
time.
It's
directly
half
of
the
year,
so
I
was
going
to
go
over
some
of
the
accomplishments
that
we
have
some
things
to
look
forward
to
for
the
rest
of
the
year
and
then
we're
gonna
jump
into
past
grants.
Budget
stuff
a
lot
of
fun
things
coming
up
so
accomplishments
for
this
year.
C
A
And
thank
you
Rick
Tiana.
B
A
C
In
the
very
very
beginning
of
the
year
we
had
the
completion
of
the
municipal
greenhouse
gas
inventory.
These
inventories
get
done
about
like
every
three
years.
If
you
do
them
every
year,
it
just
doesn't
really
make
sense,
so
those
will
be
done
in
another
three-ish
years.
C
C
C
We
launched
the
compost
drop-off
of
the
Englewood
recreation
center
and
we
had
our
first
ever
Englewood,
centered,
Earth,
Day
event,
I
know
South,
Flower
new
puts
them
on,
but
that's
kind
of
a
conjoined
Littleton
Englewood
one.
So
this
was
our
first
city
specific
one.
C
We
began
our
energy
performance
contract
process
and
for
a
high
level
of
what
this
is.
We
have
a
contractor
that
came
in
and
they're
doing
a
full
energy
audit
of
every
single
building,
Municipal
Englewood
building
they're
also
I'm,
going
to
touch
on
this
a
little
bit
later.
They
also
really
do
a
great
job
of
helping
us
look
for
grants
that
can
help
cover
a
big
chunk
of
change
for
the
retrofits.
That
will
save
us
a
lot
of
money
in
the
future
too,
and
then
this
the
last
two
are
really
exciting
ones.
C
So
we
submitted
not
even
a
month
ago
a
request
for
a
regional
lease
characterization
study
between
the
city
of
Inglewood,
the
city
of
Littleton
city
of
Centennial
and
Sheridan.
So
this
essentially
is
with
the
Colorado
Department
of
Public,
Health
and
environment.
They
have
their
Front
Range
waste
diversion
program
which
we
had
applied
to
last
year
and
didn't
get
a
grant
from
them,
but
they
created
this
sub
program
called
tasp.
C
It's
like
technical
assistance,
something
program
and
we
all
got
together
in
the
region
and
we
noticed
a
big,
lock
and
kind
of
information
around
waste
for
the
Front
Range,
especially
especially
in
South
Denver.
C
So
we
submitted
this
application.
If
we
get
it,
it
would
be
100
completely
free.
It
would
just
cost
us
really
staff
time
throughout
cities
to
do
it
and
essentially
what
they
do
is
they
have
staff
go
out
on
their
end
through
tasks,
technical
assistance,
they
go
out
actually
to
landfills
and
they
say
okay.
This
is
coming
from
Englewood.
This
is
coming
in
from
Littleton
and
they
organize
what
it
is.
So
we
can
really
truly
say
like
our
green
neck.
Waste
is
like
30
percent
of
our
waste.
We
can.
C
We
really
need
programs
for
this
or,
but
we
really
are
noticing
we
have
high
high
plastic
or
high
cardboard.
So
it'll
really
give
us
good
data
going
forward.
I
will
say:
the
people
from
the
state
were
really
excited
too
because,
as
you
all
probably
know,
we're
lacking
a
lot
of
infrastructure
in
Colorado,
especially
in
the
Front
Range,
for
like
recycling
hazardous
waste.
C
It's
just
a
huge
issue
across
the
board,
so
they
see
this
potentially
if
we
get
it,
which
we
don't
know
yet
kind
of
helping
to
further
show
that
we
need
more
infrastructure
around
here
to
help
us
do
what
we.
So
that's
really
exciting.
We
applied
for
that.
Hopefully
we'll
have
news
in
the
next
month
or
two.
If
we
got
it
and
then
our
final
one,
we
actually
just
completed
this
last
Thursday.
We
did
an
internal
resiliency
workshop
with
the
Colorado
resiliency
office,
and
this
essentially
was
myself.
C
The
emergency
risk
manager,
I'm
Eric
White
from
the
county,
who
we
also
contract
with
for
Englewood
and
some
key
level
staff
who
really
know
the
challenges
that
the
city
faces
both
short
and
long
term,
such
as
like
homelessness,
a
cyber
security
attack,
extreme
weather
events,
and
we
all
got
together
and
we
really
talked
about
what
the
challenges
for
the
city
of
Englewood
specifically
are,
and
we
did
this
because
it
directly
ties
to
one
of
our
sustainability
plan
projects,
which
is
very
Broad
and
very
big,
which
is
to
increase
climate
change
mitigation
and
adaptation
strategies
which
how
the
state
defines
it
is
kind
of.
C
So
with
that
for
upcoming
events
going
off
that
resiliency
one,
we
really
want
kind
of
what
the
resilience
framework
that
we're
going
to
have
created-
hopefully
either
at
the
end
of
this
year,
the
beginning
of
next
year,
to
not
just
be
City
staff,
identifying
challenges,
but
also
to
go
to
the
community
and
say
what
do
you
all
see
as
some
short
long-term
challenges
and
what
are
some
strategies
you
would
like
to
see
the
city
take
to
address
them,
we're
still
working
on
kind
of
synthesizing,
all
the
internal
staff
notes
and
everything.
C
Because
again
this
happened
just
last
Thursday
and
then
we're
going
to
plan
a
community
event
to
invite
everyone
in
to
really
help
shape.
What
this
kind
of
framework
looks
like
going
forward
any
questions
on
that
one
before
I
move
forward.
I
know.
H
C
Working
yeah,
so
for
the
internal
one
at
least,
the
first
Workshop
really
was
identifying
our
top
challenges
that
we're
facing
and
then
I
gave
some
staff
some
homework
which
I'm
sure
they
loved,
but
they
actually
love
the
workshop
where
over
the
next
six
weeks,
they
have
to
work
kind
of
with
their
team
to
identify
one
to
three
feasible
strategies
that
we
could
actually
do
and
then
we're
gonna.
C
Take
those
notes,
we're
going
to
ask
the
Community
First
what
they
think
just
so
our
opinions,
don't
muddle,
what
they
think
or
or
take
away
any
creativity
and
then,
at
the
end
of
that
event,
we're
gonna
say:
okay
like
this
is
this
is
what
we
have.
How
can
we
kind
of
refresh
all
these
together
for
what
that'll
look
like?
It's
still
TBD
we're
kind
of
making
it
very
flexible.
Just
because
we
didn't
know
how
the
workshop
was
going
to
come
out.
C
We
didn't
know
kind
of
like
the
information
we
were
going
to
get,
but
we're
gonna
have
kind
of
an
internal
team,
helping
us
with
the
community
event,
but
I
could
definitely
see
the
sustainability
commission
helping
also
with
it.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
reach
as
much
people
as
possible
to
get
their
feedback
on
it
great,
and
then
we
have
upcoming
the
household,
hazardous
waste
and
electronic
recycling.
That
tentatively
is
for
September,
9th
and
16th.
C
Also
have
one
of
the
things
in
the
sustainability
plan
is
the
low-income
Energy,
Efficiency,
Outreach
and
education
plan
and
strategy.
There's
been
a
lot
of
work
on
what
that
draft
plan
will
be
like
we're,
hoping
in
August
to
bring
it
in
front
of
the
sustainability
commission,
for
you
all
to
give
your
feedback
on
it.
So
far,
we've
done
a
lot
of
interviews
with
non-profit
stakeholders
so
like
Mile,
High,
youth,
core
energy,
Outreach,
Colorado
all
and
grid
Alternatives,
all
those
that
are
really
in
that
field
to
kind
of
help
us
get
data
of
also.
C
What
have
we
already
done
in
the
past
and
where
are
our
gaps,
and
how
can
we
be
better?
The
next
one
is
an
employee
green
commute
pilot
program.
This
is
also
in
the
sustainability
plan
to
explore.
So
we've
been
working
with
Dr
Cog,
which
does
everyone
know.
Dr
Cog
is
when
I
first
started.
I
was
just
like
who
the
heck
is
this
so
Dr
Cox
stands
for
Denver
Regional
Council
of
governments
and
they
are
had
an
unprofit
Joe,
a
quasi-governmental.
It's
quasi-governmental.
C
F
C
My
gosh,
if
you
learned
something
new
every
day,
let
me
tell
you
they
do
a
lot
of
work
regionally
with
communities,
and
so
they
have
a
kind
of
green
commute
platform.
It's
completely
free
we've
actually
already
been
using
a
little
bit
to
kind
of
incentivize
people
or
not.
Incentivize
encourage
people
to
take
greater
commutes
to
work.
C
We've
been
kind
of
partnering
them
on
getting
clean,
commute
certified
it's
a
program
that
they
have
also
free,
and
we
kind
of
looked
at
the
data
of
where
our
employees
are
generally
located
and
what
makes
the
most
sense
for
a
green
commute
program
because
I
know
some
communities,
they
just
kind
of
buy
a
whole
thing
of
ecopasses
and
throw
it
out
to
people
and
say
there
you
go,
but
we
actually
found
that
that
probably
wouldn't
have
even
been
the
best
route
for
our
employees
going
forward.
C
So
it
was
nice
to
have
that
data,
so
we've
been
working
with
them
on
their
platform
to
do
a
potentially
kind
of
like
this
incentivizing,
a
dollar
per
trip,
a
program
for
for
Englewood
employees.
Or
you
know,
if
you'd
like
to
work,
you
get
a
dollar
that
you'll
see
on
your
paycheck,
maybe
in
a
month
or
something
and
I'll
talk
about
this.
Also
in
a
little
bit,
the
state
currently
has
an
alternative
transportation
option
tax.
C
So
if
you
know
entities
local
governments
included
start
this
program,
you
actually
get
50
of
your
money
back
for
starting
a
program
like
this,
so
it
significantly
helps
with
cost,
which
is
nice.
The
next
one
is.
We
are
one
project
away
from
reaching
bronze
Soul
smart
designation,
which
is
really
nice.
C
The
max
you
can
get
is
gold,
so
I
mean
we're
going
to
continue
chugging
away,
but
it's
dice
that
we'll,
hopefully
most
likely
be
designated
at
the
end
of
the
year.
Tiana
I
know
you
started
after
do
you
know
what
the
social
art
program
is?
Do
you
want
a
high
level?
Okay,
the
soul.
Smart
program
is
a
free
program
to
local
governments.
It's
through
the
Department
of
Education
and
essentially
what
you
do
when
you
sign
up.
C
Is
they
provide
you,
a
free
technical
assistant
person
to
chat
with,
and
they
have
kind
of
a
point
system
where,
if
you
do
certain
projects
and
complete
them,
you
get
points
to
either
get
bronze
silver
or
gold,
and
then
you
get
recognition
for
being
part
of
the
program.
The
economic
benefit
of
going
through
this
is
that
when
you
say
you're,
kind
of
a
soul,
smart
program,
you're
signaling
to
like
solar
companies
and
everything
that
you're
an
easier
Community
to
work
with
they
want
to
do
solar
for,
like
president
our
businesses.
C
So
it
helps
that
way
and
it's
also
very
fascinating.
One
of
the
things
was
actually
working
with
your
fire
department
for
solar
safety.
If
there's
a
fire,
obviously
that
all
those
materials
and
the
solar
panels
are
not
that
safe
and
apparently
Denver
doesn't
have
that
already.
I
was
safety
treaty
for
that,
so
I
was
like
you're
welcome.
C
Let's
get
that
started
so,
but
yeah
that'll
hopefully
be
done
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
then
finally,
we're
looking
at
about
an
August
launch
date
for
an
internal
City,
Green
Team
of
having
someone
from
each
department
to
really
help
us
push
forward
even
further
with
finding
some
projects
in
the
city.
We
have
the
paper
process,
one
already
and
the
sustainability
plan
I'm
still
helping
with
that
which
that
could
save
a
lot
of
money.
C
C
So
Tim
told
me
that
folks
also
wanted
to.
Oh
sorry,
it's
not
this.
One
next
is
going
over
the
sustainability
budget
enhancement
review.
So
this
is
going
to
be
going
each
year.
You
do
kind
of
a
budget
enhancement,
every
Department
in
front
of
city
council
for
the
year
2024.
C
you
can
recommend
stuff,
it
doesn't
mean
that's
going
to
happen,
but
you
can
put
it
up
there
and
just
see
if
it
will
so
this
will
go
in
front
of
City
Council
on
June
26th,
and
so
these
are
the
highlights
of
the
ones
for
sustainability.
Specifically,
the
first
one
is
covering
half
the
cost
of
an
air
quality
sensor.
So
we're
currently
in
the
love
my
ear
program-
and
this
has
been
completely
agree-
it's
a
regional
approach
with
us
in
other
cities
and
other
counties.
C
We
it's
getting
very
popular.
We
just
got
a
grant
at
the
group,
did
and
so
they're
trying
to
expand
and
they're
asking
those
who
are
part
of
the
group
to
slowly
start
the
self-funding
process,
so
there's
room
for
other
communities
to
come
on
with
the
sensors
as
well,
especially
communities
that
it
would
just
not
be
feasible
for
them
to
afford
it.
C
It's
just
up
there,
as
is
the
second
one,
is
a
sustainability
fellow
program,
and
so
this
would
make
it
where
for
the
sustainability
program,
we
get
two
fellows
from
one
in
the
beginning
of
the
year
and
one
in
the
end
of
the
year,
and
this
is
mainly
to
help
us
push
ahead
of
accomplishing
the
progress,
the
projects
and
the
plan,
which
there
are
a
lot.
C
We
went
after
a
lot
of
the
low
hanging
fruit
kind
of
in
my
first
year,
just
made
sense
to
get
momentum,
some
of
the
ones
that
are
remaining
kind
of
like
a
lead
abatement
program
to
financially
help
residents.
You
know
those
are
bigger
and
they
take
a
lot
of
time
so
having
the
assistance
of
fellows
to
really
help
us
move
forward
is
is
so
so
needed
and
so
so
important,
so
we're
pitching
for
that.
C
The
third
one
is
a
sustainability
grant
program.
Tim
told
me
that
this
was
also
voiced
by
some
people,
the
members
of
something
that
they
wanted
to
see
too,
which
I
love
to
hear.
This
would
essentially
be
very
similar
to
the
neighborhood
resources
grant
program
which
has
been
really
successful.
The
residents
and
businesses
where,
if
they
wanted
to
accomplish
some
kind
of
sustainability
program,
they
could
get
some
funding
through
the
city.
We're
going
to
be
talking
about
this
kind
of
in
the
follow-up.
C
C
So
that's
that
pitch
the
fourth
one
would
be
for
the
employee
green
commute
program
that
I
just
talked
about
that
pilot.
It
says
6
000,
but
truly
it's
3
000
after
you
get
that
50
back
and
then
the
final
one.
This
one
is
just
a
cost
neutral.
One
I
know
we
talked
about
it
last
year
that
the
sustainability
commission
was
not
all
that
jazz
about
having
that
very
large
Hefty
household
hazardous
waste
budget.
So
this
would
be
transferring
the
funds
from
you
all
undermine
I'm,
the
one
that
oversees
that
event
anyways.
C
A
For
on
the
the
six
thousand
dollars
sustainability,
if
I'm
understanding
it
right,
if,
if
somebody
in
the
community
came
to
us
and
said
we
want
to
spend
a
thousand
dollars
on
planting
trees
in
the
park,
would
that
mean
we,
as
a
group
could
say
yes
or
no,
or
we
make
a
recommendation?
We
wouldn't
write
a
check
to
somebody,
but
I
mean
how
would
that
flow?
What
how
would
that
work.
C
Yeah-
and
so
this
is
also
kind
of
why
we're
requesting
to
move
to
funds
too,
because
it
just
gets
very
confusing,
so
the
sustainability
commission,
as
of
now,
has
this
very
large
fund,
mainly
to
cover
that
household,
hazardous
waste
and
electronic
equipment
recycling
event
we
never
truly
know,
and
the
exact
dollar
amount
of
what
it's
going
to
be
after
each
year.
It
goes
by
we
how
much
stuff
people
bring,
which
is
why
we
have
the
co-pays
to
help
cover
it.
C
G
E
A
C
The
6001
be
just
for
the
sustainability,
Commission
I
think
details
I
would
definitely
need
to
be
flushed
out.
This
is
just
a
very
preliminary
kind
of
idea
bringing
forward,
but
it
wouldn't
be
here
six
thousand
dollars
for
the
sustainability
commission.
It
would
be
housed
in
the
city
and
residents
or
visits
this
just
like
the
neighborhood
Resources
Group
would
apply
through
that.
But
we
can
definitely
talk
about
you
know.
Is
there
a
way?
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
a
louder.
C
Local
government
I
mean
government-wise
of
like
maybe
someone
on
the
sustainability
commission
sitting
on
the
Review
Committee
when
they
look
at
Grants
or
something
I
mean
I'm,
not
sure
if
that
could
happen,
but
maybe
it
could
be
an
opportunity,
but
no
this
wouldn't
be
six
thousand
dollars
for
the
sustainability.
Well,.
A
And
that's
that's
my
concern
and
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
trying
to
create
a
budget
for
this
commission
I'm
trying
to
say
either.
We
have
something
to
do
with
it
or
we
don't
and
I,
don't
like
being
in
the
middle
of
we're
sort
of
involved
and
we're
not
sort
of
involved.
It's
confusing
to
me
so
so,
for
example,
as
I
remember
the
conversation
of
the
sixth
thousand
dollars.
A
A
B
C
I
would
if
it
was
being
a
joke.
Tell
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
as
it
is
now
I
would
say
no
I
mean
the
sustainability
can't
promise
anyone
funds
at
all,
so
I
would
say
no,
but
that
if
the
sustainability
grant
program
was
passed,
you
could
direct
them
to
that
program.
You
could
say
I
personally
can't,
but
there
is
something
the
city
can
do
and
it's
through
this
program
you.
A
B
D
C
B
C
Actual
ad
number
is
going
to
be
different
because
it's
what
the
contractors
give
us
for
the
event.
So
that's
why
we
give
it
enough
wiggle
room
to
be
okay,
but
truly
there's
no
like
extra
funds
there,
which
is
what
I
was
going
to
get
to
kind
of
at
the
end
we
can
jump
a
little
forward
with
Dan
is
ask
of
that
500
for
the
bio
Blitz.
The
parks
department
had
talked
to
her
and
they
were
kind
of
like.
Maybe
it
would
be
a
good
thing
under
the
sustainability
commission.
C
Here's
the
caveat,
though,
and
I
talked
to
a
few
people
to
make
sure
I
understood
it
correctly.
You
all
can
vote
to
say.
Yes,
we
want
to
use
this
500
I
think
you
all
would
have
enough
wiggle
room,
maybe
there
to
do
it
if
you
want
to,
but
it
all
comes
down
to
say
at
the
end
of
the
year
this
household
hazardous
waste
goes
over
budget
or
something
from
my
understanding.
Then
you
have
to
go
to
City,
Council
and
say
we're
over
budget.
This
is
why
we
did
this
project
and
yada
yada.
So.
A
C
That's
the
way
it
works.
It
should
be
noted
too,
like
I,
don't
think
most
if
any
any
commissions
have
a
budget
like
this
is
very
a
rare
thing,
so
it
shouldn't
feel
like.
Oh,
we
don't
have
a
budget,
most
commissions,
don't
have
a
budget.
This
is
very
much
an
anomaly.
It's
caused
a
lot
of
confusion,
so
hopefully
in
2024
that
can
be
passed
well.
A
Yeah
no
I'm,
that's
fine,
I
just
want
clarity,
and
the
other
thing
is
I
want
to
hear
Cara
talk
too,
so
she
studs.
C
Some
homework
so
we're
going
to
be
moving
along
okay.
So
this
is
what
Tim
said.
People
requested
to
see
kind
of
the
past
grants
that
we
applied
for
and
what's
going
on
in
the
future
I
can
make
this
very
fast
so,
and
this
I
want
to
say
reflects
only
what
me
a
part-timer
sustainability
person
applied
to.
This
does
not
reflect
the
city
or
other
sustainability
stuff.
It's
just
me.
C
So
last
year
we
applied
for
the
Healthy
Babies
bright
future
grant
for
twenty
thousand
dollars
to.
We
submitted
a
letter
of
intent,
not
so
not
a
grant,
but
a
letter
of
intent
to
see.
If
we
could
start
a
program
for
giving
residents
a
hundred
dollar
rebate
towards
a
lead
abatement,
we
didn't
get
it
only
because
they
said
they
were
flooded
with
applications
actually
all
around
that
abatement.
So
the
other
one,
as
most
people
know
we
applied
for
that
Colorado
Department
of
Public
Health.
C
For
the
one
year
of
the
composting
pilot
project
for
All
City
buildings,
we
made
it
to
the
second
round.
They
said
no,
but
a
positive
thing
of
this
year
was
and
I
think
I
said
this
last
year,
when
we
didn't
get
it
was
that
their
notes
were
around.
They
wanted
to
see.
C
You
see
us
either
do
a
single
haul
or
trash,
or
they
wanted
to
see
us
do
a
waste
characterization
study
before
we
asked
for
something
like
this,
so
us
submitting
that
Regional
one
would
hopefully
help
us
open
up
future
funding
with
the
forward
program.
If
we
kind
of
get
that
stuff
out
of
the
way
and
then
the
current
one
which
we
did
get
awarded
was
through
the
Colorado
water
conservation
board
for
the
lawn
replacement
program.
C
So,
as
I
said,
our
energy
Performance
Contractor
they're
really
looking
for
any
and
every
Grant
available
to
help
us
pay
for
electrification
and
and
all
the
projects
that
could
help
us
get
a
return
on
investment
for
these
buildings.
As
I
just
said,
the
Front
Range
waste
of
version,
one
would
be
more
likely
if
we
get
the
waste
characterization
one
another
one
through
the
Colorado
Department
of
local
Affairs
is
a
climate
resilience
challenge.
They
have
about
20
million
and
Dola.
Actually,
as
who
we
went
through
for
that
resilience
Workshop.
C
So
it
would
put
us
we
already
went
through
the
workshop
with
them.
So
hopefully
that
would
put
us
in
good
graces
with
them
and
then
there's
the
charge
ahead.
Colorado
Grant
from
the
Colorado
energy
office,
around
EB
chargings
and
then
finally,
there's
an
opportunity
with
the
XL
Energy.
They
have
a
renewable
energy
trust
fund,
which
is
anywhere
from
fifteen
to
forty
thousand
dollars.
So
in
the
future
of
you
know,
renewable
energy
projects
is
something
we
want
to
look
into.
C
C
Us
which
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
familiar
but
some
background,
they
offer
non-credit
education
regarding
Agriculture
and
Horticulture
throughout
Colorado
division
of
the
University,
it's
funded
largely
through
state
and
federal
Grant
programs
and
any
County
within
Colorado
can
participate,
and
so
we
met
with
originally
I.
C
Don't
know
if
you're
sure
how
you're
connected
with
this
guy
but
John
Merkel
he's
actually
from
Douglas
County,
but
he
is
an
ongoing
research
project
at
Depot
Park
to
study
the
installation
and
maintenance
Methods
at
various
Parks
across
the
Front
Range
Depot
Park
is
on
that
list,
and
so
what
it
does
is
basically
evaluates
exactly
that
in
the
installation
and
maintenance
of
the
the
plants
and
the
sustainability
of
the
park
itself
and
its
ability
to
withstand
weeds
noxious
weeds,
and
you
know
for
the
plants
to
come
back
every
everything
it's
being
conducted
over
a
five-year
period.
C
It's
now
in
its
second
growing
season,
and
it's
really,
you
know
whether
to
to
learn.
You
know
whether
or
not
this
type
of
native
low,
irrigation,
perennial
garden
can
resist
the
lead
invasion,
and
so
we
discussed
opportunities
around
that
for
Community
involvement,
and
you
know
maybe
getting
some
smaller
volunteer
groups
together.
C
You
know,
there's
the
option
of
you
know,
keep
it
really
small.
We
could
do
you
know
bigger
production
which
I,
don't
really.
You
know
what
we're
looking
to
do,
but
it's
an
option
and
then
just
ongoing
educational
sessions
with
the
subcommittee.
C
C
Also
a
CSU
extension
office
and
Lisa
provided
just
an
abundance
of
information,
educational
links,
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
little
write-up
mail
center
on
this
morning,
but
there's
a
lot
of
information
in
there
regarding
projects
just
around
the
County
Educational
opportunities.
The
website
them
saw
itself
has
just
a
ton
of
resources.
C
We
do
have
the
ability
to
to
use
any
of
the
resources
from
the
CSU
website.
We
just
need
to
kind
of
notify
them
and
Advance,
but
she
said
we're
more
than
welcome
to
use
any
of
that
for
our
own
website.
You
know
we
can
link
to
CSU
website,
there's
all
sorts
of
sustainable
gardening,
Landscaping
native
pollinators
things
to
do
things
not
to
do.
You
know
how
to
grow
vegetables.
How
to
fight
pests
leads
like
anything
you
name
it
it
has
to
do
with.
C
Gardening
is
on
there,
so
they've
got
all
sorts
of
resources,
and
then
she
also
mentioned
so
Denver
Metro
has
what's
called
a
City
nature
challenge,
which
is
a
bio
Blitz
program
and
I
know.
Dana
was
interested
in
doing
like
a
bio
Blitz
program,
and
so
this
is
more
of
a
Denver
metro
area
bioblitz
and
it's
kind
of
like
a
City
versus
City
who
can
come
up
with
the
most.
C
You
know:
biodiversity,
sort
of
tracking
elements
and
it's
conducted
in
the
spring
every
year,
so
we've
kind
of
missed
the
window
for
2023,
but
it
is
something
that
we
could
look
at
for
2024.
It's
basically
free
participation,
it's
just
getting
the
word
out
getting
the
community
to
participate
and
it's
a
community
science
based
biodiversity
study.
So
you
get
there's
like
a
link
or
an
app
on
your
phone.
You
kind
of
track
the
insects
track.
You
know
the
plants
and
you're
participating
in
this
broader
science
study.
C
You
know
for
the
entire
Denver
metro
area,
which
is
pretty
cool
another
one
that
Don
runs,
is
it's
called
the
native
bee
study.
It's
called
native
B
watch,
which
again
is
very
similar.
It's
a
community
science,
biodiversity
project.
C
You
sign
up
on
the
website,
there's
like
a
training
you
have
to
go
through
and
the
community
members
you're
logging.
You
know
your
observations
and
your
own
garden
and
your
own
local
parks
and
you're,
providing
that
science
back
to
the
university
and
to
you
know
the
to
the
community.
For
you
know:
science,
ongoing
science,
so
pretty
cool
free
projects
we
can
participate
in
and
so
I
thought
that
was
pretty
cool.
C
C
They,
you
know
they've
installed.
What
is
it
flow?
Sensors,
irrigation,
backflows,
reprogram,
their
irrigation
controllers,
they've
mapped
their
properties,
showing
the
areas
where
each
valve
serves
they've,
hired
tree
surveys
and
they've
done
retrofits
to
install
rocks
gravel
or
the
snowmelt
consistently
kills
the
grass
every
winter.
C
So
there's
things
you
know
that
she's
been
working
on
that
we
can
maybe
pull
in
you
know
to
our
own
local
community
as
things
to
take
a
closer
look
at-
and
maybe
you
know,
take
a
note
from
her
page
and
if
we
can
incorporate
some
of
those
things,
then
that
sounds
great.
So
you
know
I
think
you
know
low
hanging
fruit.
Like
I
said
the
native
e
watch
City
nature,
Challenge
free
things.
It's
just
get
the
word
out,
get
the
community
involvement
and
then
also
using
use
of
CSU
extension
materials.
C
For
you
know
the
sustainability
website,
education,
material,
they've,
got
tons
of
videos.
You
know
webinars
I
mean
you
can
go
on
and
apply
to
be
a
master
gardener.
So
if
you
haven't
heard
the
Master
Gardener
program,
it's
a
series
of
training
that
you
can
go
through.
It's
like
a
two-day
weekend,
training
something
like
that
and
you
come
out
knowing
a
whole
lot
more
about
gardening,
so
pretty
cool
stuff
that
they
have
out
there.
Some
ideas
for
programming,
you
know
volunteer
gardening
group
to
help
with
lead
maintenance
at
Depot
Park.
C
You
know
if
there
are
other
parks
that
need
some
love.
You
guys
just
in
front
of
the
rec
center.
That's
awesome,
you
know
ongoing
educational
courses
and
then
another
one
I
thought
of
is
maybe
dedicate
you
know
a
section
of
a
local
park.
For
you
know
vegetable
growth
intended
for
those
in
need
around
the
community.
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
familiar,
but
the
north
east
corner
of
Harvard
Gulch.
C
They
do
a
little
vegetable
garden
for
Community
use,
so
something
like
that
would
be
really
cool
as
well,
and
then
the
long-term
projects
which
I
know
mentioned
a
couple
times,
but
converting
the
annual
garden
beds
over
to
something
more
sustainable
and
water
friendly
cost
efficient,
getting
rid
of
the
annuals,
basically
so,
and
then
Grant
programs
for,
like
the
turf
replacement,
smart
leaders,
solar,
you
know,
whatever
else
is
out
there,
but
lots
of
links
in
the
sheet
that
Bell
sends
around
today.
B
C
C
I
would
like
to
see
US
participate
in
the
City
nature
challenge
for
2024,
so
a
little
early
to
you
know
start
talking
about
that.
But
in
the
fall
you
know
instead
of
putting
the
word
out-
and
maybe
you
know
get
in
an
article
in
the
quarterly
magazine
for
the
fall
I.
Don't
know
if
it's
not
too
late.
For
that
you
know,
I
could
definitely
check.
C
Yeah
I
know
that
the
cutoffs
are
like
really
far
in
advance,
but
you
know
if
it's
possible,
to
get
an
article
here
in
the
magazine
linking
to
to
some
of
these
programs
offered
through
CSU
and
just
really
you
know,
partnering
with
them
and
using
the
materials
that
they've
already
got
out
there.
We
don't
have
to
recreate
anything
from
scratch
like
they
have.
Everything
is
already
out
there
and
they
were
very
generous
to
say
you
know,
feel
free
to
to
link
to
us
to
use
our
materials.
C
C
Definitely
you
know
with
angle
with
social
media
page
like
if
we
could
put
a
link
out
like
sign
up
for
the
native
B
watch.
It's
an
easy
one
right
see
how
many
people
we
can
get
to
participate
in
that
and
I
think
you
know
if
we
can
use
some
of
the
stuff
on
the
website.
C
That's
also
a
really
easy
tackling
job
as
well.
I
had
a
quick
question
about
your.
The
thing
that
you
said
essentially
is
the
Bible
is
that
Dana
is
asking
for
you
said,
that's
free
and
it's
just
like
an
app
that
you
go
through
or
is
that.
B
E
C
There's
a
link
on
the
site,
so
it's
called
the
city,
nature
Challenge
and
it's
through
Denver
and
it's
for
the
the
entire
Denver
metro
area
and
there's
a
link
to
sign
up
and
you're,
basically
you're
competing
with
other
cities
and
I.
C
Don't
know
if
I
think
there's
an
app
and
you
go
in,
and
this
is
kind
of
like
the
native
B
watch,
you're
logging,
all
of
the
things
that
you're
seeing
you
know
in
the
garden,
the
plants,
the
insects,
the
you
know:
Birds
animals
Wildlife
whatever
you're
you're,
making
a
note
of
it
right
and
so
you're,
making
these
scientific
observations
and
then
at
the
end
they
kind
of
tally
it
up
and
they
see
you
know
which
city
had
the
most
observations
and
they
kind
of
do
like
a
little
competition
between
all
the
cities.
C
Yeah
because
then
the
bio
Blitz
is
exactly
that.
It's
like
getting
a
group
together
and
you're
making
observations.
You
know
about
exactly
that:
insects,
Wildlife
plants,
just
things
you're,
seeing
in
the
dirt
in
the
in
the
garden
and
just
talking
about
you,
know
what
what
they
are,
what
they
mean
just
kind
of
educating
around
that,
and
so
that's
exactly
what
this
is.
C
H
Think
that
the
social
media
piece
of
this
is
kind
of
a
slam
job
we're
already
seeing
it
Facebook
post
almost
daily
about
something
with
sustainability.
The
challenge
of
you
know
what
what's
your
most
sustainable
thing
and
the
pictures
taken
things
like
that,
but
the
the
links
you're
talking
that
we
saw
the
extensive
links
those
could
go
right
into
social
media.
E
A
What
do
you
think
Mel?
How
could
how
could
we
promote
or
educate
with
some
of
these
low-hanging
fruits
I.
C
Show
them
the
document
to
I
think
something
that
is
really
beneficial
is
if
it
kind
of
matches
with
like
a
national
day.
So
it's
like
National
Bee
day
being
like
here's
apps,
that
you
can
use
something
that
there's
whole
laws
around
like
not
promoting
prizes
too.
So,
if
it's
like
a
government
or
education
website
like
University,
those
are
usually
easier.
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
red
tape
if
it's
like
a
private
business
doing
stuff.
So
I
can
look
at
into
that
with
them
too
and
see
what
we
can
do.
C
Yeah
I
mean
I,
know
they
partner
with
cities
all
around
and
they
certainly
have
the
you
know
the
involvement
of
the
county
level,
and
so
they,
the
CSU
extension,
has
their
own.
You
know
each
County
that
participates
us
its
own
website.
A
So
so
someone
like
me
who's
a
gardener,
I
see
a
funny.
Looking
bug
in
the
garden
I
can
take
my
phone
take
a
picture.
The
date
is
collected,
it
goes
and
by
the
way,
last
year,
I
saw
some
monster
bug
in
the
backyard
I
called
it.
Penn
State
I
mean
I've,
never
seen
anything,
but
it
was
this
big,
but
that's
what
would
have
been
cool
if
you
could
just
take
a
picture
of
it?
Send
it
to
CSUS
yeah
that
one's
very
well
I'd
like
to
do
that.
C
B
C
Much
seven
days
a
week
to
answer
questions
that
you
can
email
in
if
you're,
not
sure
about
how
to
you
know,
do
something
like.
H
C
C
E
C
B
A
A
C
I
think
so
with
well
I'm,
not
sure
I
can
reach
out
to
Jana
and
learn
more,
but
we
can
kind
of
table
that
yeah
well
I'm,
always
the
CSU
extension,
but
there
might
be
some
some
programming
like
that.
We
can
utilize
that
doesn't
I
can
reach
out
to
Dana
too
and
send
her
the
link
to
that
like
free,
app
thing
too,
and
that
maybe
she
doesn't
know
about
her
because
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
alternative.
C
C
Yeah,
so
there
was
a
question
of
you
know:
what
is
the
city
doing
to
transition
to
perennials
just
more
sustainable
and
economic
move,
so
it's
been
kind
of
a
slow
addition
over
time.
Annuals
do
give
a
pop
of
color,
so
you
know
they're
there
for
that.
But
there
are
plans,
especially
in
the
hardest
bond,
that
they
were
talking
about.
There's
a
lot
of
plans
for
annual
perennials
in
that
one
as
well.
A
It
wouldn't
be
hard
to
transition
either
because
the
rec
center
had
some
hidden
perennials.
When
we
got
in
there
and
dug
around
we
exhumed
or
saved
some
of
those
perennials
and
so
next
year.
We
would
not
need
nearly
as
many
annuals
to
put
in
there
and
we
might
be
able
to
plant
a
few
perennials
next
year
and
then
you're
pretty
much
full
I
mean
there's
no
more
room
to
plants.
So
we.
C
Okay,
there's
no
public
comment:
July
meetings,
every
game.
One
can
always
send
me
ideas
via
email
too.
If
you
have
any
ideas,
someone
had
pitched
a
Depot
Park
visit.
The
next
meeting
that
could
be
an
option
continue.
The
tree
ordinance
discussion
still
trying
to
see
if
we
can
get
someone
from
good
alternatives
to
come
and
present,
and
then
also
Tim
also
told
me
that
there
would
be
maybe
some
interest
from
the
Communications
Department.
C
Actually
this
is
perfect
to
come
and
see
you
know
there
could
be
Partnerships
with
the
sustainability
commission
for
the
work
that
they
do.
Awesome
great.