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F
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A
30
so
and
don't
forget
my
my
most
important.
C
Other
than
that
the
rest
of
it's
irrelevant,
it
was
one
of
those
random
it.
It
was
one
of
those
random,
like
internet
searches
for
coconut
recipe,
pumpkin
pie.
C
A
C
H
So
I'll
call
meetings
order.
Thank
you,
everybody
for
being
here
on
time,
I'm
going
to
apologize
in
advance
I'm
going
to
obsess
on
time,
because
I've
got
big
things
going
on
downstairs,
hope
we
can
all
show
up
for
that,
but
slow
me
down
if
I
have
to,
but
we
got
a
lot
to
cover
in
a
short
period
of
time.
So
if
we
could
start,
let's
take
roll,
maybe
start
with
Cara
and
we'll
just
go
around
the
table.
A
Kathleen
Bailey
possible:
what
do
you
call
it?
The
well.
D
F
H
H
The
memo
that
went
out-
hopefully
everybody
had
time
to
read
it-
melted
some
I-
think
great
editing
trying
to
distill
anybody's
input.
So
we
need
to
discuss
it
suggest
whatever
needs
to
be
suggested
or
hopefully
move
to
approval.
So
we
could
shoot
it
to
council.
So.
C
H
Seems
like
we
need
a
discussion
so
who
would
like
to
speak?
What
was
the
thought
of
the
feedback.
H
The
draft
that
went
out
I
guess
we're
focusing
on
that
in
terms
of
are
there
suggestions,
Corrections
or
modifications
that
need
to
be
made
on
that
piece
or
is
it
acceptable,
as
is.
B
B
I
Yeah,
why
wouldn't
you
want
me
to
pull
it
up?
Bring
it
up,
it's
on
the
multimodal
Greenway
one,
and
it
says
Little,
Dry
Creek,
but
I'd
like
to
say
in
there
something
around
the
downtown
area
to
be
clear
that
that's
where
we're
talking
about,
because
we
already
do
have
a
little
Dry
Creek
and
it
just
dead
it
randomly
dead
ends
and
I'm.
Sorry
Christine.
What
part.
C
I
Part
right
here,
instead
of
ending
it
after
crease,
say
something
like
through
the
downtown
area.
I
C
C
H
I
G
J
J
J
H
J
I
just
wanted
to
mention
you
know:
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
a
voting
member
or
anything,
but
you
guys
did
ask
me
last
time,
I
objected
to
something
when
we
were
I
was
at
a
city
council
meeting
that
I
should
have
warned
you
so
I
I
I,
don't
like
the
idea
of
of
incentivizing
or
anything
regarding
gas
stoves,
I,
think
I
I
think
gastos
are
great
they're
great
for
cooking
on
so
I
don't
want
to
you
know:
people
want
gas
stoves
more
power
tools,
kind
of
my
Approach
there,
that's
good
to
know.
Thank.
E
Don't
know
if
I'll
Prevail
or
not,
but
we
have
there
was
something
related
to
Natural
Gas
earlier
and
it
was
not.
It
was
just
a
suggestion
and
and
I'm
fine
with
education
I
like
knowing
that
I
like
that
education
language,
but
earlier
we
used
a
when
you
talk
about
this,
be
specific.
For
instance,
the
for
instance,
was
make
all
houses
all
electric
going
forward
and
that
relates
to
natural
gas,
I
assume,
and
that
struck
me
the
wrong
way
too.
E
We
had
three
days
without
power
in
my
neighborhood,
but
we
were
able
to
have
a
furnace
running
that
able
to
cook
all
those
pipes
are
already
there
changing
the
infrastructure.
I
know
that's
for
new
owners
in
the
language,
but
I
think
it's
I
I
said
when
I
was
joining.
The
commission
I
wanted
to
be
the
guy.
That
would
raise
his
hand
and
say,
let's
think,
about
the
financial
cost
too
sure
if
we
start
making
a
lot
of
decisions
that
require
more
of
our
infrastructure
that
are
than
are
feasible.
E
We're
not
just
changing
a
little
bit
of
cost,
because
natural
gas
historically
has
been
cheaper.
I
know
that's
changing
and
if
the
concern
is
renewable
I
know
there's
a
significant
effort
being
made
for
renewable
natural
gas,
which
is
is
getting
getting
a
lot
of
speed
in
the
Northwest.
So
so
I'm
not
I'm,
not
an
all-electrified
home
proponent,
either
and
I
think
it
was
just
an
example.
But.
C
I
didn't
like
the
example,
so
would
your
suggestion
be
striking
out
all
elect
it's
up.
C
E
Over
here
it's
the
it's
a
higher
section.
It
wasn't
in
the
air
quality.
E
I
think
I
think
an
all-electric
move
is
I.
Wasn't
here
for
the
discussion
so
I'm
a
little
behind
and
I
apologize
for
that,
but
I
would
I
would
I,
don't
know
what
amendment
I
would
make
I'd
just
say:
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
a
fan
of
that
language.
I
My
options
can
I
jump
in
if
you
want
to
strike
that.
That's
fine
with
me,
but
I
had
a
couple
comments
on
what
you
said.
If
I
may
yeah,
the
vast
majority
of
all
furnaces
and
water
heaters
and
gustos
do
not
work
if
electricity
doesn't
work,
especially
the
new
ones,
by
code,
because
the
blowers
and
the
motors
and
the
electronics
in
them
need
electricity.
So,
typically,
if
the
electricity
goes
out,
the
furnace
also
goes
out
and
that's
been
a
a
myth.
I
I
think
with
all
electric
homes
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
didn't
perpetuate
that
bit
and
then
also
often
your
concerns.
Maybe
you
were
alluding
to
it
about
capacity
on
the
grid
to
handle
these
systems
and
Excel
has
said
they
have
plenty
of
capacity
for
electrification
because
their
electric
system
was
built
for
high
summer
air
conditioning
loads,
and
so
they
have
excess
in
the
winter.
Because
of
that
and
heat
pumps,
electric
heat
pumps
and
water
heaters
would
take
more
of
that
winter
load
and
essentially
kind
of
smooth
out.
I
Natural
place,
it's
car,
it's
climate
change,
carbon
emissions
in
a
nutshell,
and
that's
because
two
things,
heat
pumps
are
300
efficient
instead
of
90-ish
percent
efficient,
so
they're
three
times
more
efficient,
but
the
the
bigger
one
is
that
since
they
can
run
on
electricity,
our
grid
is
aiming
towards
80
Renewables
by
2030,
we're
on
track
for
that
or
on
track
to
exceed
that,
and
then
carbon
free
by
2050..
I
So
if
you
can
use
that
renewable
energy
for
heating
and
water
heating,
then
it's
renewable
and
carbon
neutral,
but
gas
will
always
be
a
fossil
fuel,
always
with
an
asterisk.
Like
you
said,
they're
working
on
renewable
fuels,
we
put
our
biogas
into
the
natural
gas
system,
but
the
reality
of
that
becoming
carbon
neutral
in
any
of
the
future.
For
decades.
It's
not
it's,
not
realistic
it.
I
It
will
supplement
I,
think
the
fossil
fuels,
but
it'll
always
be
just
a
small
part,
and
our
natural
gas
lights
can't
even
handle
high
amounts
of
hydrogen
in
them,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
way
long
term
and
in
the
meantime
we
have
a
solution.
That's
available
off
the
shelf,
and
now
it's
natural
gas
prices
higher
and
huge
incentives
from
the
inflation
reduction
act.
Now
the
costs
work
out
too
for
both
first
costs
and
operating
costs.
So
that's
it
in
a
nutshell.
J
If
we
go
all
electric
cars,
all
electric
appliances
and
also
all
renewable
grid,
I
don't
think
those
are.
Those
are
really
compatible
goals
and
either
you
know
either
one's
going
in
either
one's
going
to
fail
and
you're
not
going
to
actually
have
the
renewable
Grid
or
you're
not
going
to
actually
be
able
to
function.
You
know
you're
not
going
to
actually
have
a
functional
Grid
at
all,
because
you're
talking
about
massive
increases
to
the
grid,
while
also
decreasing
its
reliability
with
you
know
with
with
Renewables.
J
So
it's
a
it's
a
nice
aspiration,
but
yeah
Color,
Me
skeptical.
I
That's
almost
hard
on
there.
That's
almost
arguing
for
it
in
a
sense,
because
you
want
that
natural
gas
that
we're
currently
using
for
heating
and
water
heated
to
be
reserved
for
power
plants
when
we
absolutely
need
it
for
the
Grid.
In
other
words,
they
use
it
where
we
don't
have
viable
substitutes
and
and
and
don't
use
it
where
we
do
a
viable
substitutes.
H
D
H
Objective
at
hand
is
this
document
that
that
we
want
to
send
to
see
Steve?
Is
there
a
word,
a
sentence,
a
phrase
that
you
want
to
pull,
alter
or
modify?
I
guess
I'll
put
you
on
the
spot,
because
I
hear
what
you're
saying
I
respect
it:
I
just
I'm.
Looking
at
the
clock,
thinking
I'd
really
like
us
to
approve
something
going
to
city
council
along
the
lines
of
what
this
draft
has.
H
F
I
E
E
H
I
We
do
want
this
strategic
plan
to
include
a
concrete
goal,
assuming
this
whole
thing
stays
such
as
to
like
we
want
it
to
say
a
number
and
not
just
to
have
these
fakes.
We
should
do
something
nice
here,
so
I
think
a
number
like
that
we
would
hope,
would
go
into
the
strategic.
C
E
I
guess
the
there's
nowhere
in
the
plan
that
this
sentence
is
expected
to
actually
show
up,
though
right.
This
is
just
use
more
concrete
examples.
This
is
this
is
in
line
with
what
we're
talking
about.
Do
something
like
this:
we're
not
expecting
them
to
actually
write
that
sentence
anywhere
in
the
plan,
but
that's.
H
G
J
Mean
I
would
suspect
that
Mel
and
Tim
Dodd
would
work
up
a
list
of
suggestions
and
keep
kicking
with
this.
That
we
could.
We
would
talk
about
in
in
regard
to
the.
G
J
E
I
And
then
just
to
speed
it
up,
then
down
to
air
quality
to
address
your
concern,
keep
going
keep
going,
keep
going
okay!
So
what
if
we
take
out
that
middle?
I
It's
a
bullet
and
I
wonder
if
you
might
be
okay
with
the
other
two,
the
first
one
distribute
education
about
proper
ventilation
there,
gas
stoves
would
that
does
that
also
raise
red.
J
The
final
one
I
think
is
is
is
fine.
J
A
Worried
about
Joseph,
you
just
said
these
are:
these
are
not
demands;
these
are
just.
These
are
examples
of
what.
A
A
H
G
H
It
passes,
okay,
I
think
we
good
yeah
I'll.
Do
it
three
minutes:
okay,
okay,
we
sent
some
information
out
on
biochar
and
I've,
been
studying
it
Rick
and
I
actually
drove
up
to
the
plant
and
had
a
tour.
It's
amazing.
H
We
met
with
Adrian
Torres
parks
and
Recreation,
and
we
tossed
out
ideas
about,
could
could
Englewood
use
biochars
or
anything.
We
could
do
to
create
awareness
and
purpose
to
it.
He
was
great.
He
said
we
could
do.
Maybe
a
small
pilot
put
some
biochar
and
some
flower
beds,
or
whatever
and
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
all
know
that's
what
I've
been
up
to
I'd,
really
like
to
have
a
discussion
of
it
in
a
lot
more
detail
next
month.
H
Those
links
that
we
sent
Channel
7
News
has
two
news
clips
that
if
you
go
to
their
website
they
do
a
really
good
job
of
doing
an
overview
and
explaining
what
they're
doing
so.
My
hope
is
maybe
I
know,
would
have
some
kind
of
relationship
or
appreciation
and
use
of
biochar.
Maybe
the
sustainability
commission
could
have
some
kind
of
role
or
recommendations
in
that
and.
H
That
there
might
be
a
project
this
spring,
where
we
could
get
involved
in
using
it
and
studying
it,
so
I'll
be
quiet,
I
have
a
biochar
samples.
Let
me
look
at
and
so
please
before
next
meeting
I
hope
you
look
at
that
information
and
I
think
it'll
be
a
lively
conversation
because
there's
some
amazing
things
that
biocharger
Does.