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A
A
A
We
have
a
massive
agenda
at
this
committee
meeting
and
also
later
tonight
at
Council,
so
I'm
hoping
we
can
get
through
this
fairly
expeditiously
and
if
we
can
bring
this
plane
in
before
6
30,
we
can
be
on
time
for
our
connecting
flight.
So,
let's
move
forward
and
I
will
entertain
a
motion
on
item
am1,
the
minutes
from
August
8th
some.
Second,
it's
been
properly
moved
and
seconded
all
in
favor.
Please
say:
aye
aye.
B
A
Aye
anybody
opposed
and
that
motion
carries
let's
also
really
quickly
back
up
and
do
a
roll
call,
because
council
member
Burns
is
planning
to
log
in
online
if
he
hasn't
already
so
councilmember
Reed
here,
council
member
Kelly
here
is
council.
Member
Burns
online
yet
should
be
joining
us
soon.
Councilmember
newsma
I
am
president.
So
Quorum
of
this
committee
is
three.
We
are
good
to
keep
going.
A
Moving
on
with
public
comment,
Deputy
manager,
stoneback.
We
have
two
folks
signed
up
for
public
comment.
Yes,.
D
D
As
I
can
hello,
you
all
know
who
I
am
and
why
I'm
here.
Thank
you
again
for
your
hard
work
over
the
past
18
months.
I
know
each
of
you
would
Advocate
as
much
as
I
have.
If
you
were
in
this
situation,
many
of
you
and
Peter
Braithwaite
contacted
me
directly
and
were
appalled
what
I've
gone
through.
Those
who
contacted
me
said
they
could
not
pay
the
forty
five
thousand
dollars
if
it
were
their
house,
the
city
needs
to
help
and
has
the
resources
to
help.
D
If
this
happens
to
any
one
of
your
constituents
by
passing
this
resolution,
you
can
now
say
you
helped
Rectify
this
financially
disastrous
situation.
Please
note.
The
original
resolution
has
been
modified
to
include
several
additional
conditions.
Homeowners
must
meet.
These
additional
conditions
were
presumed,
presumably
added
to
further
limit
the
city's
exposure,
but
also,
please
remember,
director
stonebeck's
analysis
of
the
last
six
years
of
sewer
repair
data
showed
the
average
cost
to
the
city
would
have
been
only
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
per
year.
D
One
of
the
new
conditions,
Section
3,
will
impact
those
homeowners
least
able
to
pay
for
an
extraordinary
sewer
repair
cost.
The
new
requirement
will
increase
the
amount,
a
homeowner
will
be
responsible
for
paying
by
an
additional
five
thousand
dollars.
Now
the
first
twenty
thousand
will
need
to
be
assumed
by
families
who
already
have
problems
paying
the
first
fifteen
thousand.
In
my
case,
I
spent
close
to
five
thousand
to
diagnose
my
sewer
before
I
had
to
pay
the
forty
five
thousand
dollar
repair
Bill.
D
My
total
sewer
bill
is
actually
fifty
thousand
five
hundred,
but
I
never
asked
for
assistance
with
the
initial
five
thousand.
If
you
are
now
requiring
a
five
thousand
dollar
loan.
My
new
Total
out
of
pocket
expense
is
twenty
five
thousand
five
thousand
to
diagnose
five
thousand
dollar
loan
15
000
homeowner
responsibility.
This
is
still
far
more
expensive
than
a
typical
repair
on
a
typical
side.
Street
a
loan
is
an
out-of-pocket
expense.
If
a
lien
is
placed
on
the
property.
D
Please
note
the
other
new
requirement
added
to
the
resolution
will
limit
Financial
assistant
to
only
homes,
with
the
total
estimated
market
value
of
less
than
five
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars.
This
provision
impacts
the
most
vulnerable
homeowners,
low-income
owners,
new
owners
and
seniors
on
fixed
income
who
have
owned
their
homes
for
years
with
much
of
their
net
worth
wrapped
up
in
the
appreciated
value
of
their
home.
Please
approve
the
resolution,
but
please
modify
it
to
delete
Section
3
and
consider
deleting
section
2
condition
4..
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
support
of
this
resolution.
A
E
Sir,
you
have
the
floor.
Thank
you
very
much.
First
I
want
to
say
even
though
I
don't
think
he's
in
the
well.
He
is
in
the
chamber.
Good
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
want
Luke
Stowe
and
his
new
position
as
city
manager
to
succeed
and
I.
Think
his
staff
and
the
city
council
should
do
everything
they
can
to
make
his
job
a
success.
E
One
is
really
on
page
two
at
the
very
top:
it
speaks
of
field
use,
ease,
recreational
field,
use
fees
for
James,
Park
cricket
for
the
Crooked
field,
I
guess,
but
it's
it's
really
not
fees,
their
their
maintenance
supplies,
there's
pitch
resurfacing
and
field
marking
totaling
about
nine
thousand
dollars
so
I.
My
point
is:
this
should
not
be
listed
as
some
kind
of
a
a
fee.
E
This
is
construction,
repair,
work
and
I
I
feel
it's
kind
of
a
hidden
cost
buried
in
the
in
the
bills.
List.
Second,
item
I
hate
to
keep
bringing
this
up,
but
no
one
else
does
Community
Center
once
again.
I
think
this
is
monthly.
I
have
to
go
back
and
look
but
I
believe.
E
Every
month
there
are
invoices
for
industrial,
Refrigeration,
repair
and
maintenance,
and
this
month
it's
in
the
total
of
roughly
15
well
14
533
dollars,
I
mean
if
you
run
that
out
over
a
period
of
of
a
year,
that's
I
mean
being
conservative.
That's
150,
000
I
have
to
question
whether
or
not
the
equipment's
in
actually
good
shape
or
not
this
brand
new
building
that
we
bought.
E
What
I
don't
see
on
the
Bill's
list
is
any
reference
to
the
rubber
crown
study.
I,
guess
that
I
expected
and
I
heard
about
from
Dave
stoneback
for
the
wish
elsner
report
they're
going
to
go
out
there
and
you
know
redo
the
documents
review,
the
field
conditions,
review,
I,
guess,
there's
also
a
little
cracked
glass
of
some
kind,
but
I
don't
see
that
on
the
bills
list,
I'm
wondering
where
that
study
stands.
A
That's
two
minutes:
Mr
fasilko.
If
you
could
wrap
up,
please.
E
A
Thank
you,
sir.
Is
there
anybody
else
wishing
to
address
the
committee?
I,
don't
see
anybody,
so
we
will
keep
going.
The
rest
of
the
items
on
this
evening's
agenda
are
all
on
the
consent
calendar.
The
idea
here,
given
the
the
scope
of
the
agenda,
is
to
get
through
this
fairly
quickly,
but
if
council
members
would
like
to
take
items
off
of
consent,.
F
G
G
A
I've
got
an
A9,
that's
the
the
business
district.
Oh
and
I.
Do
not
maintenance,
the
clean
team,
so
A3
A8,
A9,
a12,
a
14,
a
30
and
a
31.
A
H
Yeah
and
I
would
like
sorry
to
pile
lawn
chair,
but
A3
there
was
a
bid.
If
staff
can
help
me
out.
There
was
a
bid
where
two
or
three
of
the
contractors
who
initially
applied
did
not
proceed
with
the
interview,
at
least
that's
what
it
looks
like
it
said
not
available.
A
Day
three
council
member
Burns:
what
was
the
the
project
you
were
talking
about
it
there.
H
Was
one
let
me
see
if
I
can
check
my
notes?
Real
quick
I
was
hoping.
Somebody
would
just
immediately
know
hold
on.
H
Was
the
the
electrical
system
reliability
project?
We
can
remove
that
one.
A
A5
also
removed
okay.
So
just
to
recap,
we
are
removing
items:
A3,
A5,
A8,
A9,
a
12,
a
14,
a
30
and
a
31.
councilmember
Reed.
If
you'd
like
to
accept
a
friendly
amendment,
I.
F
A
And
it's
been
seconded
by
council
member
Kelly
I
do
believe
correct.
Yes,.
G
A
Correct
okay,
since
councilmember
Burns
is
participating,
remotely
I
will
call
for
a
role
council
member
Kelly
council
member
Reed
he's
going
to
stick
a
thumbs
up.
Councilman
Reed
indicates
in
the
affirmative
council,
member
Burns,
aye
and
councilmember
Newsom
I,
so
the
consent
agenda,
with
the
exceptions
of
items
A3
A5,
A8,
A9
a12,
a
14,
a
30
and
a
31
passes
unanimously,
bringing
us
to
item
A3.
If
someone
would
like
to
make
a
motion
on
item
A3.
A
And
there
is
a
second
from
council
member:
it's
been
properly
moved
by
councilmember
Kelly
seconded
by
council
member
Burns.
A
Any
discussion
on
item
A3.
This
is
an
agreement
with
tesca
and
Associates
for
Consulting
Services
related
to
Mason
Park
expansion
and
the
church
and
Dodge
Transportation
Improvement
project.
H
Have
questions
but
councilman
Kelly
I,
don't
know
if
you
were
going
to
start.
You
can
start
if
you
want.
It
was
like.
H
Okay,
so
first
question
is
just
trying
to
understand:
there
was
a
mention
of
of
I,
think
three
phases
of
work
started
at
1A,
I,
think
and
went
to
1B
or
one
one
C,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
clear
sense
of
you
know
what
we
would
be
authorizing
today
and
what
those
different
phases
are.
As
is
my
first
question
and
specifically
what
work
would
happen
at
each
phase.
I
Of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Laura
Biggs
I'm
the
city
engineer,
so
this
project
is
divided
into
multiple
phases.
As
you
mentioned,
one
a
is
a
public
engagement
and
conceptual
design,
part
of
the
project,
so
this
area
had
this
project
is
pretty
open-ended
about
what
could
be
involved
in
It.
Ultimately,
although
we
have
received
through
the
no
cash
bid
process
at
Cook,
County,
we've
received
a
number
of
parcels
of
land.
I
H
I'm
sorry,
just
so
I
can
keep
up.
Sorry
Laura
is
that
are
we
in
1B
was
more
specific
Concepts
and
then
now
you're
talking
about
1C
you're,
not
following
tracking
correctly.
I
Yes,
so,
for
example,
one
idea
Consultants
proposed
a
number
of
things
already,
just
in
sort
of
a
brainstorming
way
and
staff
has
also
had
some
brainstorming.
One
idea
would
be
to
leave
the
berm
in
place
and
have
like
hiking
trails
through
the
berms,
that's
very
different
when
you
start
narrowing
it
on
Con,
on
the
concepts
and
from
providing
multiple
options
within
that,
then,
if
you
remove
the
berm
and
you
just
have
flat
Parkland
with
different
kinds
of
Park
amenities
that
are
more
traditional,
so
phase
1A
is
sort
of
discussing
high
level.
I
What
do
we
want
this
area
to
look
like
and
then
once
we
get
a
pretty
decent
consensus
on
what
we
want
it
to
look
like,
we
will
narrow
in
with
multiple
conceptual
plans
of
that
area
of
the
approved
design,
and
then
once
we
get
to.
This
is
specifically
what
amenities
we
want.
This
is
roughly
how
we
want
it
located
The
public's
weighed
in
so
this
looks
like
a
great
Park
design.
A
great
use
of
this
land
then
phase
two.
I
They
will
produce
construction
documents
that
can
be
bid
and
phase
and
then
phase
three,
which
is
construction.
The
consultant
will
oversee
some
of
the
work
that
is
happening
in
the
construction
phase,
which
includes
processing,
submittals,
making
sure
the
right
equipment
is
installed,
checking
the
site
periodically
to
make
sure
that
the
contractors
actually
completing
the
work
in
accordance
with
what
the
Construction
contract
says
and
issues
like
that.
Helping
us
with
pavement
applications.
H
Thank
you
and
I
have
two
more
questions
on
this
item.
Second
question
is
I
would
imagine
there's
a
reason
why
we
why
we
are
splitting
the
how
we
fund
this,
so
it
looks
like
there's
30k
from
2021
Capital
bonds
and
then
the
remaining
amount,
at
least
in
this
first
phase,
will
go
through
the
West
service
and
Tiff.
H
Why
not
all?
Why
don't?
Why?
Wouldn't
we
just
use
the
tip
for
the
the
total
amount?
What
was
it
thinking
behind
splitting
the
30k
off.
I
staff,
was
directed
not
to
use
the
Tiff,
but
to
provide
thirty
thousand
dollars
to
begin
some
initial
planning
work
and
that
work
actually
did
not
occur
because
of
Staffing
limitations,
and
so
the
bonds
were
sold.
However,
to
be
directed
to
that
project,
it
is
feasible
to
redirect
them
to
another
project
and
use
only
the
Tiff
funding,
but
we
are
trying
to
use
up
the
bond
funding
that
the
bond
was
sold
specifically
for
that.
H
Okay
and
then
final
question
on
this
item,
and
thank
you
Laura
is
so
we
all
know
the
West
Evanston.
H
You
know
the
West
Seventh
Prime
primarily
was
meant
to
generate
funds
to
you,
know,
redevelop
or
make
improvements
in
the
old
defunct
Railway
the
Mayfair
cut
off,
which
we're
discussing
Tech
today
and
you
know,
and
again
we
can
discuss
this
more
offline
as
well,
but
is
there?
Is
there
a
possibility
that
we
can
expand
this,
especially
some
of
the
research
but
explore?
You
know
some
of
the
research
to
include
other
parts
of
the
Mayfair
line.
H
You
know,
for
example,
you
know
undergrounding.
High
power
transmission
lines
is
certainly
something
that
we
need
to
investigate
for
this
project,
but
you
know
I
would
say
all
along
this.
The
Mayfair
line,
that
is,
that
falls
within
the
West
Jefferson
Tif.
We
need
to
be
doing
similar.
Research
and
investigation
so
is
is,
is
it?
Is
it
possible
that
we
can
expand
the
scope
of
this
contract
at
a
later
Point
without
having
to
go
back
out?
You
know,
through
the
bidding
process.
I
A
C
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
you
did
have
another
question
earlier
tonight:
we're
proposing
to
award
the
services
for
phase
1A
only
and
then
we
would
come
back
to
counsel
when
we
took
the
next
step.
I
Yes,
we
we
reviewed
qualifications
for
this
team
to
provide
all
of
the
services
necessary
through
construction
engineering,
and
so
we
do
not
need
to
go
back
out
to
hire
another
team,
but
the
next
phase
of
the
contract.
We
would
come
back
to
award
an
amendment
to
change
the
to
add
the
additional
phases
of
work.
G
Thank
you.
So
has
there
been
any
public
engagements
recently
around
this
or
no.
G
I
Typically,
we
have
an
initial
meeting
with
the
public
where
we
provide
information,
including
exhibits
that
show
what
is
out
there
currently
what
some
of
the
concerns
might
be
and
and
like
in
this
case,
just
talking
about
which
let
properties
we
Acquired
and
are
being
debated
as
part
of
this
project,
and
then
the
consultant
would
also
provide
just
some
like
brainstorming
stuff.
We
could
do
this.
We
could
do
that.
I
Here's
some
pictures
of
what
a
hiking
trail
might
look
like
here's,
some
pictures
of
what
you
know
a
tennis
court
might
look
like
you
know,
just
like
a
general,
really
high
level,
here's
some
ideas
to
work
off
of
and
then
we'd
have
a
meeting
where
the
public
would
be
able
to
just
propose
their
thoughts
and
what
they
would
like
to
see.
I
And
then
the
consultant
takes
that
back
and
they
work
that
through
that,
and
then
they
kind
of
make
that
appear
into
exhibits
that
people
can
look
at
and
they
say
here's
what
we
heard
last
time
and
here's
some
ideas
about
how
that
might
look.
Is
this
what
you
guys
were
thinking
and
then
people
give
feedback
on
that
and
then
we
typically
have
a
third
meeting.
G
Thank
you
and
I'm,
just
wondering,
and
maybe
councilmember
Burns
has
some
thoughts
like
just
sort
of
an
initial
listening
meeting.
I
mean
I
know
what
was
in
2005
with
the
West
End
plan
residents
came
together
and
they
voted
against.
You
know
removing
the
berm,
so
it
just.
G
It
seems
to
me
that
that
would
be
advisable
in
terms
of
making
this
move
smoothly
to
just
have
sort
of
an
opening,
an
open
discussion
just
hearing
from
residents
about
the
area,
and
can
you
address
how
this
interfaces
or
works
with
the
master
with
the
West
End
West
Side
master
plan?
I
So
I
think
that's
something
we
would
discuss
a
little
bit
in
the
public
engagement.
The
West
Side
master
plan
did
talk
about
potential
to
put
in
housing
and
and
various
other
things
and
kind
of
some
of
the
same
general
area
and
that's
something
the
staff
has
discussed,
but
the
West
Evanston
master
plan,
while
we're
not
trying
to
ignore.
It
is
happened
many
years
ago,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
capturing
the
thoughts
also
of
the
people
that
live
in
the
immediate
area.
Now
great
thank.
G
You
and
I
know
safety
is
one
of
the
reasons
mentioned
here
for
moving
forward
on
this.
Is
there
I
just
I
haven't
seen?
Is
there
sort
of
a
report
or
evidence
of
safety
issues
in
this
area?.
I
This
was
more
anecdotal
that
was
presented
by
a
council
member
breathe
weight
to
us,
but
then
he
and
I
walk
the
site
and
we
looked
at
it
and
in
fact
there
are
some
concerns
about
basically
just
having
a
wooded
area
that
doesn't
have
a
designated
path.
But
where
people
have
placed
all
sorts
of
stuff
and
anecdotally
has
told
me
that
there's
been
safety
issues
for
high
school
students
accessing
the
school.
Okay.
H
Yeah,
so
I
just
want
to
double
down
on
what
I
said
and
just
make
sure
that
I
understand
the
process
to
to
to
that
would
allow
us
to
include
other
sections
of
the
Mayfair
line.
You
know
if
and
when
necessary,
with
do.
I
need
to
make
an
amendment
now
to
allow
that
at
a
later
point,
or
is
that
something
that
we
need
to
be
bring
back
later
I
just
I
want
to
was
it?
Is
that
an
amendment
we
that
the
city
manager
would
have
authorization
to
make
it
at
at.
C
A
later
point,
councilmember
Burns
I
think
that
we
would
need
to
meet
with
you
to
to
solidify
what
your
concept
is,
and
once
we
have
an
understanding
of
that,
we
would
go
to
the
consultant
and
ask
them
for
a
cost
estimate
to
do
that
additional
work.
And
then
we
would
have
to
come
back
to
the
city
council
through
APW,
to
award
an
amendment
to
perform
that
scope
of
work.
A
You
Laura
I,
have
one
quick
question
kind
of
following
up
on
councilmember
Kelly's
question,
so
we're
spending
an
item
A3
some
money
on
Mason,
Park
and
planning
for
Mason
Park
item
A4,
which
we
approved
on
consent,
is
a
a
more
General
Park
and
green
space
plan.
So
how
would
what
the
money
we're
proposing
to
spend
on
Mason
Park
would?
How
would
that
fit
in
with
the
with
the
overall
plan.
I
I
A
Is
the
approval
of
an
agreement
Award
with
Greeley
and
Hanson
for
the
water
plant,
4160
volt
electrical
supply
or
electrical
system,
reliability
project
so
moved?
It's
been
moved
by
council
member
Reed
seconded
by
council
member
Kelly.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
item
A5,
council
member
Burns?
You
would
ask
for
this
one
to
be
removed.
H
Yeah
and
I
and
I
expressed
the
question
earlier
too
I
I
just
noticed
if
my
notes
are
correct,
that
there
seem
to
be
two
contractors
that
did
not
interview
they.
They
have
initially
applied
but
did
not
interview,
which
I
believe
is
the
last
last
step
in
the
bidding
process.
So
I
just
wanted
to
know
if
you
know
why,
if
we
know
why
they
did
not,
they
chose
not
to
interview.
I
Members
of
the
committee
Lara
Biggs
city,
engineer:
it's
pretty
typical
that
when
we
solicit
proposals
through
a
request
for
proposal
or
request
for
qualifications,
we
do
an
initial
scoring
on
a
variety
of
criteria
that
are
generally
the
standard
for
the
City
of
Evanston.
And
out
of
that,
you
will
have
two
or
three
companies,
vendors
that
really
show
that
they
scored
better.
They
had
a
better
understanding,
The
Proposal.
I
They
were
more
qualified,
they've
done
this
type
of
work
before
and
then
you'll
have
people
that
naturally
sort
of
float
downward
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
and
so
those
people
that
are
selected
as
the
top
contenders
are
shortlisted.
It's,
which
is
an
industry
standard
term,
and
they
are
typically
interviewed
by
staff
and
detail.
I
Questions
are
proposed
by
the
staff
to
make
sure
that
they
have
a
thorough
understanding
of
the
teams
capabilities,
and
so
it
just
so
happened
that,
on
this
particular
project,
Greeley
and
Hansen
and
CDM
Smith
were
considered
the
shortlisted
firms
they
scored
significantly
higher
on
the
written
proposal
process
and
were
selected
to
move
forward
and
I
do
want
to
add.
This
is
nothing
to
say
about
the
general
qualifications
of
the
other
firms.
It's
just
how
they
presented
themselves
and
their
qualifications
and
their
understanding
of
this
particular
project
and
what
their
fit
was
for
this
project.
H
Yeah
I
guess
it
seems
like
there's
a
lot
you
can
learn
during
that
interview
and
I
I
guess
I
just
wasn't.
I
didn't
know
that
some
people
weren't
even
invited
to
interviews
during
the
day
process.
I
guess
this
is
just
a
new
development
for
me
personally
and
my
own
understanding
of
how
it
works.
So,
but
basically,
if,
if
if,
if,
if
certain
you
know
contractors
that
seemed
like
they
scored
that
there's
there's
a
big
difference
between
the
high
scores
and
everyone
else
there
they
will
be.
H
The
only
ones
invited
for
an
interview.
Is
that
basically
how
that
works?
Yeah,
because
it's
unlikely
that
the
people
who
score
lower
will
be
able
to
make
up
the
difference
by
an
interview
alone.
I
Yeah
and
typically
it's
a
significant
financial
investment
for
a
consultant
to
prepare
a
proposal,
but
for
them
to
prepare
an
interview
about
doubles
their
costs
usually
over.
E
I
Preparation
because
they're
asked
to
prepare
a
15-minute
presentation
related
to
the
their
qualifications
to
the
project,
and
then
they
bring
a
number
of
people,
there's
typically
three
to
five
people
that
they
bring
staff
members
there's
also
typically
five
to
seven
staff
members
that
sit
in
on
an
interview.
So
an
interview
takes
about
an
hour.
So
it's
a
pretty
costly
thing
for
both
a
consultant
and
for
the
city
staff.
For
every
interview.
That's
had.
H
And
then
last
question
on
this
item
is:
what
is?
Is
there
a
formal
way
in
which
someone
can
be
debriefed
if
they,
you
know,
let's
say
one
of
the
you
know,
contractors
that
that
was
not
invited
for
an
interview.
You
know
wanted
to
schedule
a
meeting
so
that
they
can.
You
know,
learn
more
about.
You
know
the
Matrix,
so
the
scoring
Matrix
or
or
why
they
received.
H
I
They
usually
reach
out
to
purchasing,
and
once
the
purchasing
process
is
over
and
the
procurement
is
finalized,
it
is
not
uncommon
for
people
to
request
a
debriefing
through
purchasing
and
then
they
usually
meet
with
the
engineering
staff.
In
the
case
of
a
capital
project,
we
love
to
help
people
improve
their
proposals
because
we
want
to
have
as
good
a
competition
as
possible
for
the
future,
so
we're
happy
to
meet
with
people
and
give
them
feedback
on
what
we
were
looking
for,
that
wasn't
present
in
their
proposal.
H
Hold
on,
and
is
that
is
that
something
that
is
is
offered
or
is
it's
like
only
upon
requests
or
is
it
part
of
like
the
email
that
they
get
at
the
bottom?
It
says
just
like
with
foyer,
and
it
says
like
if
you
want
to
appeal
this
decision,
you
can
reach
out
to
blah
blah
blah
in
this
case.
If
you
want
to
learn
more
about
why
you
score
what
you
scored
you
can,
you
know
request
to
debrief.
H
Is
this
something
that
we're
that
we're
offering
people
and
and
kind
of
advertising,
or
is
it
only
upon
request?
It's.
A
All
right
anything
else
on
A5
see
no
further
questions.
Deputy
manager,
stumbach,
if
you
could
call
the
roll
council.
A
F
Move
item
AA
to
prove
contract
Award
with
fleter
plumbing
and
heating
company
bills,
plumbing
and
Sewer
Incorporated
Joel,
Kennedy,
Construction
Corporation
and
pan
Oceanic
Incorporated
RFQ
2245
for
private
side.
Led
service
line,
replacements.
A
Is
there
a
second,
it's
been
properly
moved
by
council
member
councilman
Reed
seconded
by
council
member
Kelly
council
member
Reed
has
the
floor.
Yes,.
F
So
I
appreciate
staff
for
coming
back
with
this.
They
think
there
are
a
few
items
that
make
sense
for
us
to
flesh
out
and
given
the
length
of
this
meeting
and
the
fact
that
we
have
Council
coming
up.
I
would
like
to
just
table
this
for
two
weeks:
councilmember
Kelly.
Does
that
sound
until
our
next
meeting
yeah
I'd
like
to
table
this
to
our
next
meeting
and
be
able
to
discuss
this
offline
and
come
back
with
the
proposal?
F
I
think
I
really
appreciate
Miss
Allen
and
her
advocacy
throughout
this
and
I
think
some
of
the.
H
F
A
J
F
I
think
multiples
of
us
removed
it,
but
council,
member
Burns.
If
you
have
concerns
about
this.
A
H
Need
yeah,
so
first
question
is:
will
we
I
think
this
is
through
2024
is
the
is
a
plan
to
go
out?
Is
the
plan
to
seek
additional
qualified
contractors
in
2024?
I
was
just
trying
to
understand
what
happens
in
2024
once
once.
This
is
over.
K
Chair
news,
members
of
the
committee
good
evening,
Daryl
King
Water
Production,
bureau
chief,
so
during
2024
or
as
this
contract
would
conclude.
Yes,
we
would
request
additional
contractors
that
could
propose
or
pre-qualify
for
this
type
of
work.
H
And
then,
when,
when
water,
when
the
the
I
know,
this
is
for
emergency
Replacements,
but
we
also
do
Replacements
when
the
water
main
fails.
What
is,
are
we
using
a
similar
process
to
identify
contractors
in
those
situations
when
the
walk
when
we're
replacing
lead
lead
lines,
it's
after
a
water
main
fails?
Is
it
a
similar
process
or
different.
H
H
Go
ahead
go
ahead,
and
so
so
my
question
is
when
we
in
those
situations
when
we're
when
we're
replacing
the
private
side,
how
are
we
doing
that
or
are
those
the
ones
that
we're
we've?
We
have
another
contract
with
a
company.
That's
helping
us
do
that
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
how
are
we
identifying
those
contractors
identify,
though
that
contractor
so.
K
In
terms
of
our
water
main,
our
annual
water
main
replacement
projects,
contractors
are
allowed
to
bid
on
the
project
based
on
specifications
that
are
drawn
up
by
a
Consulting
engineer.
So
contractors
would
bid
in
that
way
if
it's,
if
it's
a
private
site,
only
contract
again
go
ahead.
David
you
had
something
you
want
to
add
so.
C
On
the
water
main
replacement
project,
we
make
it
a
requirement
of
the
contractor,
replacing
the
water
main
to
also
replace
the
lead
service
lines
that
are
connected
to
the
water
main.
So
it's
it's
all
the
same
contractor
scope
of
work.
The
contractor
may
elect
a
subcontract
out
the
the
lead
service
line
Replacements,
but
that's
that
scope
of
work
is
all
included
within
the
water
main
replacement
contract.
C
And
it
has
to
be
in
a
way
in
order
to
get
the
new
water
main
in
service
and
disconnect
the
old
water
main.
It
would
not
be
advantageous
to
allow
multiple,
different
contractors,
the
ability
to
replace
the
lead
service
lines.
It
would
impact
the
water
main
contractor
schedule
to
coordinate
it.
So
that's
why
we
leave
it
all
to
the
water
main
contractor
to
develop
his
schedule
for
water
main
replacement,
including
the
lead
service
lines
that
are
connected
to
that
water
main.
C
Is
only
for
the
Emergency
repairs,
so
tonight's
award
is
to
pre-qualify
four
plumbing
contractors
and
believe
me,
this
is
the
second
time
we
went
out
and
we
did
a
lot
of
Engagement
with
local
Evanston
plumbers,
who,
unfortunately,
only
one
submitted
a
bid.
The
other
two
did
not,
and
we
made
them
well
aware
of
the
opportunity
on
the
second
time
around,
because
we
were
hoping
that
they
would
bid
we're
not
sure
why
they
did
not.
But
this
is
only
for
emergency
repairs
and
this
as
we
develop
our
Workforce
Development,
the
other.
C
H
H
And
then
going
back
to
the
emergency
repairs,
the
you
know,
so
we
created
the
Workforce
program
for
the
public
side.
The
the
the
initial
idea.
The
initial
deal
for
me
was
really
to
do
both
the
public
and
private.
We
stopped
it
public,
because
what
I
heard
from
I
think
it
was
you
Dave
with
staff
is
that
is
that
we're
not
we're
not
trained.
H
There's
no
City
of
Evanston
employees
in
the
water
department
that
are
trying
to
do
the
private
side,
but
that,
but
we
always
still
talked
about
having
a
Workforce
having
some
Workforce
component.
That
would
make
it
easier
for
contractors
replacing
the
private
side
to
still
hire
locally
if
they
could,
and
so
have.
We
thought
any
more
about
how
to
achieve
that.
Even
on
the
private
side.
On.
C
H
You
know
what
I
meant
more,
so
that
contractors
would
I
mean
more
so
that
contractors
would
look
to
find
work
on
on
their
own,
not
that
it
would
be
something
that
the
you
know
the
city
would
lead
on
or
would
employ
any
additional
people
beyond
our.
H
You
know
the
Workforce
program
that
we're
creating
for
the
public
side,
but
more
so
encouraging
contractors
that
you
know
that
that
are
repairing
the
private
side
of
the
lead
service
line
to
try
to
find
local,
laborers
or-
or
you
know,
Evanston
residents
to
work
with
if
they
could.
But
I'll
I'll
talk
to
you
more
about
that
offline.
C
We
know
what
what
four
contractors
were
pre-qualifying.
We
can
definitely
reach
out
to
them
directly
and
encourage
them
to
work
with
our
our
development,
our
Workforce
Development
coordinator,
and
if
he
has
a
list
of
them
Evans
and
residents
that
are
interested
in
becoming
plumbers.
We
can
share
those
names
with
these
contractors
that
we're
pre-qualifying
today.
H
F
Can
I
request
that
we
move
to
voice
votes,
which
is.
A
A
Item
eight
passes
unanimously,
bringing
us
to
item
A9
approval
of
a
contract
award
to
Street
Plus
for
business
District
maintenance
services.
If
somebody
would
like
to
make
a
motion
so
moved,
it's
been
properly
moved
and
seconded
by
council
members,
Reed
and
Kelly.
Are
there
any
questions
or
comments
on
a
nine
and
I'll
recognize
Paul
zamelzak
Paul?
Do
we
have
the
the
contractor
ready
to
make
a
short
presentation
on
this?
We.
A
L
Him
to
speak
no
more
than
five
minutes,
it'll
be
great
great
Mr
Hillard.
Are
you
available
on
the
zoom?
Yes,
I
am
great.
Thank
you.
Mr.
A
Hillard
you
have
the
floor.
J
J
I'm,
the
president
and
principal
of
Street
plus
company,
we
are
a
national
provider
of
Clean,
safe
and
friendly
services
to
Improvement
districts
across
the
country.
We've
been
in
business
since
1991
and
we're
the
only
privately
owned
and
operated
firm
in
this
space.
As
we
speak.
Currently
we
operate
in
14
states
with
about
90
districts
as
our
customers
and
employ
about
650
ambassadors.
J
We
really
specialize
in
providing
cleaning
services,
Hospitality
safety
security.
We
also
do
social
service,
Outreach
Landscaping,
as
part
of
our
our
business
that
we
provide
to
organizations
and
cities
like
Evanston
and
this
particular
situation.
We
responded
to
the
request
for
Proposal
with
a
formal
proposal
with
we
outline
the
work
that
we
would
do,
the
parameters
of
which
we
would
do
it.
The
pay
rates
and
the
bill
rates
and
the
actual
task
that
the
individual
workers
would
do.
J
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
during
this
process
that
street
plus
is
committed
to
hiring
local
residents
in
the
Evanston
area
for
these
jobs,
we
also
are
looking
to
use
when
appropriate
individuals
that
are
considered
Second
Chance
employees
for
these
jobs.
Although
this
is
not
a
Workforce
Development
program,
we
are
open
to
looking
at
a
percentage
of
the
full-time
workers
coming
from
that
type
of
background.
J
I
think
that
the
one
thing
that
we're
excited
about
providing
services
in
Evanston
is
that
we
have
a
good
footprint
in
downtown
Chicago.
We
provide
services
for
the
for
the
Chicago
Loop
Alliance
and
we
also
were
awarded
contracts
with
the
city
of
Chicago,
with
the
mayor's
new
initiative
with
grant
money
to
make
Chicago
more
safe
and
friendly
downtown
since
the
pandemic
and
a
civil
unrest
that
occurred
last
year.
J
F
I
have
a
few
quick
questions.
One
I'm
just
curious:
what
a
what
is
an
average
wage
for
one
of
the
street
workers.
F
Okay,
wonderful
and
I'm
saying
are
these
typically
full-time
part-time.
J
F
Thank
you,
thank
you
and
then
this
is
not
for
you
Mr
Hillard.
This
is
more
so
for
staff
and
I
I
mentioned
this
to
Luca.
You
know:
I'd
love,
her
downtown
I
want
to
make
sure
our
downtown
is
clean
and
fully
support
this,
but
also
I've
got
a
business
district
in
the
south
end
of
town
that
borders
with
Howard
and
both
Mander
Stowe
and
I
and
manager
as
well.
F
Xaml,
Zack
and
I
have
walked
on
Howard
and
there's
you
know
partially
I
don't
want
to
blame
it
all
on
the
border.
It's
easy
to
just
blame.
Chicago
Chicago,
the
trash
is
blown
over
from
Chicago,
but
you
know
we
have
our
fair
share
of
need
on
Howard
Street,
especially
I.
F
Think
it's
one
of
the
more
needy
districts
in
Evanston
I'd,
just
love
to
see
some
of
this
expanded
to
getting
making
sure
Howard
Street
is
clean
and
attractive
for
for
visitors
and
in
fact
today
I
walked
down
Howard
and
saw
some
of
the
stuff
that
we're
concerned
about
downtown
some
of
the
human
waste
out
on
the
streets.
So
would
love
to
see
Tower
Street
included
in
this
and.
H
Chair
just
for
the
sake
of
time,
I
think
Howard
Street
is
included
in
this
correct
Paul.
Let's
let
Paul.
L
And
I'll
also
ask
Mr
Hiller
to
weigh
in
on
this,
but
the
council,
member
Reed,
the
the
primary
focus
will
be
downtown
in
in
some
ways:
Main
Street,
although
Main
Street
will
be
under
construction
next
year,
and
then
we
would
cycle
through
the
rest
of
the
districts.
I
think
Central
Street
needs
the
least
amount
of
work,
so
they'll
not
get
as
much
attention
but
I
think
Howard
Street
would
probably
be
kind.
F
L
Right
I
would
ask
Mr
Hiller
to
describe
how
he
would
cycle
his
staff
into
the
different
districts.
J
Absolutely
in
response
to
the
RFP
and
part
of
our
formal
proposal,
Howard
Street
would
receive
about
3.25
hours
daily
of
services
from
the
existing
staff
of
seven
and
Main
Street
from
Human
to
Maple
would
receive
1.75
hours,
weekly
basic
cleaning
services,
so
they
are
included.
It's
broken
down
as
a
percentage
based
on
the
number
of
block
faces
that
are
in
the
area.
That's
requiring
the
additional
services.
J
G
You
yeah
a
couple
of
questions
and
I'm.
Sorry
I
didn't
send
this
earlier.
Just
by
the
time
we
get.
These
there's
not
always
enough
time
to
ask
all
the
questions,
but
so
you
know
we're
looking
at
hiring
an
outside
contractor,
basically
to
pay
folks.
You
know
a
decent
wage
with
insurance,
but
we
have
like
part-time
jobs.
Posted
I'm,
just
wondering
if
we've
looked
at,
for
example
and
I'm,
looking
at
some
of
the
the
details
that
these
workers
would
be
assigned
to,
for
example,
we
have
a
part-time
parking
enforcement
post
position
posted.
G
G
You
know
we
aren't.
We
aren't
doing
the
same
thing
in
terms
of
full-time
insurance
for
our
child
care
workers,
a
child
care
worker
could
potentially
be
cross-trained
to
work
at
the
library
you
know
shelving
at
the
library
and
make
them
full-time
I'm.
Just
wondering,
as
I
see
some
of
the
details
that
these
workers
would
be
cover
our
own
workers
here,
I
wonder
if
we
could,
if
it's
worth
taking
it
pausing
and
maybe
looking
at
those
part-time
positions
to
make
them
full-time
and
cross-train.
G
L
Councilmember
Kai
I
wasn't
sure
that
sounded
like
an
idea
more
than
a
question.
I'm,
not
sure
you
know,
I
I
will
say
that
we're
we're
looking
at
this
particular
funding
for
one
year
and
and
during
that
time
perhaps
we
built
that
program.
I
I
feel
like
we're
trying
to
address
an
immediate
need
with
an
off-the-shelf
solution
that
we
can
quickly
respond
to
the
community
and
the
business
owners.
Complaints
about
the
cleanliness
in
our
districts,
I
think
the
the
ideas
you
just
outlined
are
possibly
doable.
I,
don't
know
enough
about
the
staff.
L
G
G
F
Related
question:
yeah:
it's
it's
right
on
it's
right
on
here,
so
I
I
do
wonder
you
know
if
you
can
also
answer
that
from
a
lens
of
what
comes
from
Kelly
is
saying,
but
also
why
not
just
bring
the
staff
on
instead
of
you
know,
just
create
new
full-time
positions
and
why
not
just
bring
the
staff
in-house
rather
than
contract
out,
where
there's
that
profit
buffer,
that
we
could
eliminate
and
keep
some
of
this
money
in-house.
L
Where
I
can
answer
that,
I
can
answer
that,
as
it
relates
to
the
proposal
that
I've
put
before
you,
and
that
is
it's
off
the
Shelf
ready
to
implement
with
experience
and
coming
highly
recommended
from
other
business
Improvement
districts
in
the
region.
We
felt
that
the
need
was
urgent.
We've
been
I
think
we
brought
this
before
the
council
last
May
or
you
know,
may
of
2021.
So
it's
still
an
ongoing
need,
but
I
would
say
that
we
could
do
that.
We
could
build
a
program
around
with
using
City
staff.
C
And
if
I
may
jump
in
this
is
actually
something
that
Audrey,
Thompson
and
I
have
discussed
as
well.
C
And
if
that
became
a
a
good,
viable
opportunity,
then
in
year
two
we
would
switch
potentially
from
this
service
to
using
permanent
employees
for
the
city
but
piggy
backing
on
what
Mr
zolozak
indicated.
This
is
something
that
we
want
to
get
out
and
do
right
away.
Helped
the
downtown
and
all
the
business
districts
try
to
recover
from
the
covet
and
bring
people
and
make
Evanston
an
attractive
place
to
go
in
all
the
business
districts,
and
that's
why
we
thought
this
would
be
a
great
way
to
get.
The
program
started
this
year.
C
Actually
kind
of
learn
from
what
they're
doing
and
then
potentially
start
taking
it
over
with
city
employees
in
the
future.
Thank
you
thank
you,
and,
and
the
part-time
employees
and
cross-training
them
to
do
other
tasks
is
something
that
we
would
have
to
to
work
with
the
union
with
as
well
I'm,
not
sure
that
you
know
somebody
that's
doing
a
part-time
job.
Some
of
them
prefer
part-time
work
because
they
have
other
life
obligations,
but
yeah.
We
could
definitely
see
if
we
find
the
match
work
with
the
unions
to
see
if
that
type
of
tool.
C
G
A
With
with
some
comments
and
then
a
question
for
Mr
Hillard
I
do
think
that
the
idea
of
bringing
the
stuff
in-house
at
some
point
really
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
but
I
also
I
believe
that
we
really
have
an
immediate
and
pressing
problem
that
needs
attention
sooner
rather
than
later.
So
getting
this
launched
with
an
organization
that
does
this
all
the
time
is
the
quickest
way
to
address
the
problem
that
currently
exists,
and
that
buys
us
some
time
to
figure
out.
A
You
know
moving
forward
if
we
want
to
bring
these
Services
in-house
so
I'm
fully
supportive
of
this
tonight.
I
do
have
a
question
for
Mr
Mr
Hillard
with
regards
to
the
scope
of
services
that
you
provide
and
if
you
could
clarify
where
the
you
know
where
you
draw
the
line
at
Social,
Services
and
interaction
with
individuals
on
the
street
experiencing
homelessness
or
other
community
members
that
might
be
in
distress.
J
Yeah,
absolutely
the
the
scope
of
services
really
doesn't
cover
a
in-depth
Social,
Service
Outreach
specialist
program,
but
rather
our
local
manager
that
we
would
hire
would
receive
additional
training
provided
by
Street
plus
to
be
able
to
effective
evaluation
of
those
on
the
street
in
need
in
the
regard
of
engagements
and
then
potential
referrals
to
the
various
agencies
that
are
in
the
area
that
are
in
place
to
provide
services
for
those
in
need.
So
that's
the
role
they
would
play.
Our
cleaning
ambassadors
would
be
trained
also
in
the
basics
of
homelessness.
J
To
include
why
people
are
homeless
also
would
be
how
to
engage
and
treat
them
with
respect,
and
if
there
was
a
situation
where
they
were
interacting
with
those
individuals,
they
wouldn't
know
who
to
call
to
refer
them
to
additional
Services.
We
have
a
full
element
and
a
lot
of
our
programs
where
we
have
a
Workforce
Development
element,
and
we
also
have
licensed
Social
Service
workers
that
are
on
our
staff
as
an
officers
and.
A
A
Thank
you,
I
think,
moving
forward.
You
know
whether
it's
through
this
contractor
through
another
organization
that
we
contract
or
in-house
being
able
to
offer
Social
Services
with
licensed
individuals,
is
something
I
would
like
to
pursue
moving
forward.
But
that's
not
part
of
this
contract,
except
if
there
are
no
further
questions.
H
Okay,
now
that's
it
oh
yeah,
so
one
I
and
I
brought
this
up,
I
think
in
one-on-one
conversations
and
it
got
lost,
but
I
would
like
to
add
and
and
hopefully
I'll
have
councilmember
Kelly
support,
but
noise
to
this
contract
noise
streak
is
a
lot
of
activity.
The
maple
noise
area
gets
a
lot
of
traffic
and
activity
and
I
would
like
to
add
that
to
this
contract.
L
H
Thank
you
and
then.
Secondly,
the
I
want
to
go
back
Circle
back
to
the
social
and
that's
Maple
noise
too.
Just
to
make
sure
I
was
clear
on
that
which
Maple
is
a
much
smaller
area,
but
noise
is
the
main
area
but
Maple
noise,
so
social
Outreach
coordination,
so
I
think
it
I
saw
in
the
packet.
It
says:
75,
a
thousand
is
what
that
full-time
social
Outreach
position
would
cost
did
I
did
I,
read
that
correctly,
yeah.
J
That
would
be
fully
loaded
with
wages,
payroll
taxes,
benefits,
equipment
and
support.
Yes,.
J
The
support
would
come
from
our
corporate
office.
We
have
a
group
of
individuals
across
the
country
that
are
part
of
our
social
service,
peer
group
network,
and
so
they
meet
on
a
regular
basis
to
share
best
practices
across
the
country.
We
have
the
licensed
Social
Service
workers
in
major
metropolitan
areas
to
include
Chicago
Los,
Angeles,
San,
Francisco,
New,
York
City,
the
New
Haven
Connecticut,
Raleigh,
North,
Carolina
or
Reno
Nevada.
Those
into
those
those
cities
have
a
dedicated
outreach
program
that
we
provide
to
them
and
we
have
a
regular
meeting.
H
Then
so
this
would
and
you
you
I'm
glad
you
said
that
so
this
wouldn't
be
like
a
licensed
social
worker.
But
a
peer
is
is
what
you
said:
correct
so
likely
someone
that
has
a
kind
of
a
direct
lived
experience
with
homelessness
or
housing,
insecurity
or
or
maybe
something
else.
But
it's
my
understanding
of
fear
that
they
can
they're
more.
They
can
speak
from
experience
as
they're
working
with
in
part
our
homeless
population.
J
Yes,
and
also
it
depending
on
what
the
customer
I
immediately
spoke
to
the
the
scope
and
services
are
sometimes
we
who
we
hire,
individuals
that
are
unlicensed
Social
Service
workers
that
are
in
degree
programs
or
in
continual
education,
have
real
life
experiences
or
we're
homeless
themselves
before,
and
we
hire
them
as
unlicensed
social
workers,
and
we
have
another
element.
That's
licensed
social
workers
that.
H
You
can
offer
both
okay
I
I
would
like
to,
and-
and
you
know
hopefully,
I'll
have
support
on
this,
but
I
I've
certainly
heard
enough.
You
know
from
residents
downtown
to
know
that
is
is
a
greater
work
is,
is
Trilogy
is
doing
and
I
think
they'll
continue
to
do
that.
Work
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
I
I
do
think
we
need
to
increase
our
effort
down.
H
No
worries
I
do
think
we
need
to
significantly
increase
our
effort,
and
while
we
are
piloting
this
program,
I
would
also
like
to
Pilot
either
a
licensed
social
worker
or,
at
the
very
least,
to
have
an
unlicensed
peer
support.
Somebody
that
I
can
speak
from
experience
to
to
add
another
presence
downtown
that
in
this
you
know
individual
can
I
think
seamlessly
work
with
Trilogy.
What
I
like
about
this
position
is
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
this
this
person
would
be
full-time
assigned,
211
students
right.
D
J
F
Mix-Up
just
point
of
information
I
think
when
I
think
when
you
heard
peer,
he
was
talking
about
peers
amongst
the
licensed
social
workers
when
he
mentioned
the
peer
to
peer
program.
H
Is
that
correct
Mr?
Is
it
Hilliard
I'm
not
saying
that
right,
Hillard
Hillard
sorry
about
that
is
that
is
that
right?
Is
that
what
you
meant
by
Pierre
yeah.
J
What
I
mean
by
that
is
they?
They
also
would
have
peers
that
are
not
in
our
Network
or
employed
by
us,
but
they'd
be
members
of
the
national
professional
association
for
Social
Service
workers,
and
we
also
have
our
own
internal
peer-to-peer,
both
licensed
and
unlicensed
groups,
that
I
actually
coordinate
and
support
and
sponsor.
H
And
but
when
you
mention
on
license,
I
thought
you
talked
about
people
with
lived
experience,
potentially
being
a
part
of
that
unlicensed
group.
That
could
that
that,
may
you
know,
work
out
for
this
type
of
position.
That's.
J
H
J
I'd
have
to
look
at
a
little
bit
further,
but
I
think
the
obviously
that
the
main
difference
is
that
we're
paying
a
higher
wage.
If
someone
is
decreed
and
has
some
discipline
right,
that
is
verifiable
versus
someone,
that's
not
so
that
the
primary
difference
would
be
the
actual
starting
wage.
Okay,.
H
So
okay
I
would
like
to
leave
some
some
wiggle
rooms
to
that
staff
can
go
back
and
figure
out
what
works
best.
But
again,
if,
if
we're
going
to
pursue
this
in
a
pilot
period,
I
think
based
on
the
amount
of
feedback
we've
heard,
it
makes
sense
to
not
wait
on
this
and
to
to
take
action
out
to
increase
our
effort
downtown
so
that
we
could
provide.
H
So
we
can
make
contact
with
those
in
need
and
and
and
provide
them
with
the
you
know
the
support
that
they
need
and
I
I
would
like
to
make
that
motion.
H
A
Member
Burns,
before
we
move
forward
with
that,
if
I
could
ask
manager
zalmosak
to
address
that
concern
or
what
does
that
do
to
our
contract?
Have
we
done
the
homework
on
that?
That
would
allow
us
to
make
a
full-informed
vote
tonight
again.
H
I'll,
just
real
quick
before
you
go
I
just
I
want
to,
as
I
said,
leave
some
rooms
that
would
allow
staff
to
go
back
and
investigate
it
further
and
have
that
conversation
I'm,
not
saying
that
staff
has
to
approve,
has
to
expand
this
contract,
but
we
should.
We
should
authorize
them
to
have
those
conversations
and
if
they
feel
like
it's
a
good
fit
for
our
needs.
So.
H
Because
I
think
the
I
think
the
work
is
I
think
we've
already
been
fully
breached
on
this
type
of
work,
whether
it's
licensed
or
unlicensed.
Again
we
have
Trilogy.
We've
had
Trilogy
on
more
than
one
occasion
speak
directly
to
the
council,
so
I
think
the
the
work
is
similar
to
what
Trilogy
and
other
Alberts
groups
do,
and
so
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
is
increase
it
up
to
you
know
125
000,
let's
say
just
so.
H
They
have
the
room
to
not
only
investigate
this
further,
but
to
also
you
know,
move
forward
if
they
feel
like
it's
a
good
fit
for
us.
L
Paul,
okay,
thank
you,
chair
newsma,
so
there's
a
couple
ways
we
can
do
this.
We
can
improve
the
contract,
as
is
tonight
and
with
the
commitment
to
come
back
with
these
additional
services
that
we
can
vet
do
a
little
bit
of
research
to
compare
what
other
operations
are
providing
as
originally
planned.
Last
year,
we,
the
staff,
was
recommending
that
we
have
this
level
of
service,
but
at
the
time
we
were
developing
this
contract
and
the
concept
with
Trilogy.
L
So
we
we
backed
off
of
that
as
a
service
again,
because
I'm,
confident
with
kind
of
this
off-the-shelf
solution
that
street
plus
is
offering
they
have
a
ton
of
experience
in
this
realm.
I
think
they
are
probably
offering
what
we
need
at
the
right
price,
but
I'm
not
prepared
tonight,
to
say
that
you
know
we're
getting
our
bang
for
our
buck
on
that.
I
need
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
with
it.
So
perhaps
there
could
be
with
Deputy
city
managers
help.
Could
we
approve
something
up
to
an
amount
and
then
come
back?
A
Councilmember
Burns
I
think
you'll
find
the
committee
amenable
in
conceptually
to
what
you're
proposing
like
we'd
like
to
add
Social
Service
support
to
the
street,
but
we
probably
don't
yet
have
enough
information
to
make
a
fully
informed
vote
on
exactly
how
to
proceed
with
that
tonight.
H
A
media
waiting
waiting
in
the
you
know
on
the
side
to
write
about
this,
so
I
want
to
be
very
careful.
What
I've
said
is
is
that
we
approve
and
up
to
amount
and
if
they,
after
the
investigation
into
other
programs,
similar
programs
that,
if
we
don't
the
staff
does
not
feel
like
it's
a
good
fit,
then
they
do
not
have
to
move
forward
with
it.
But
what
I
was
saying
is:
is
that
I
think
that
we've
heard
from
the
community
enough
about
the
concerns
we've
investigated?
H
We
all
know
we
were
you
know:
Congressman
medusama,
you
and
I,
and
mayor
business
with
Justin
Oak,
Park
visiting
another
shelter
there
in
their
community
and
talking
to
their
mayor.
We
know
all
across
the
area
there's
been
an
increase
and
and
and
and
homelessness
and
aggressive,
panhandling
everywhere
across
our
area,
which
in
and
of
itself
is
not
an
issue.
H
The
issue
is
that
we
have
not
responded
in
the
way
that
we
need
to
as
the
city
to
help
make
contact
with
individuals
and
to
get
them
and
to
direct
them
to
get
the
support
that
they
need,
and
we've
heard
that
we've
heard
that
enough.
We
know
that
this
is
an
issue
not
just
in
Evanston,
but
it's
facing
you
know
our
area.
Generally
speaking
and
again,
we've
heard
a
lot
from
Trilogy
about
how
these
programs
work.
H
We
have
a
committee
that
have
investigated
these
types
of
programs
like
so
we
know
enough
to,
at
the
very
least,
be
able
to
prove
tonight
up
to
amount
and
again
I
trust
staff
to
go
back
to
investigate
this
further
to
see
if
it
makes
sense
to
move
forward
with
with
with
this
group.
And
if
it
doesn't,
then
they
don't
spend
the
money
and
then
they
come
back
to
us
with
a
different
proposal.
H
But
if
they
do
like
having
not
just
someone
from
a
kind
of
one-off,
you
know
a
separate
organization
out
there,
but
somebody
that's
not
networked
in
not
only
with
the
cleaning
crew
that
has
their
own
training,
but
also
that
community
that
that
Mr
Hiller
talked
about.
Then
I
think
we
should
give
them
the
authorization
today
to
move
forward.
And
that's
all
I'm
saying.
A
G
A
Understand
and
before
we
move
forward
Deputy
manager,
stoneback
are
you
on
it
to
weigh.
A
G
So
I
would
not
advise
that
we
moved
forward
tonight.
I
think
you
know,
one
thing
is
cleaning
the
streets.
Another
thing
is
social
services
and
I
have
been
researching
programs
Across.
The
Nation
I
have
a
meeting
council
member,
Burns
and
you're
welcome
to
join
the
conversation
tomorrow
with
directors
of
the
Stars
program
in
Denver,
which
is
based
on
the
Eugene
Cahoots
program.
But
it's
actually
taken
it
even
further,
and
this
is
actually
staff.
That's
been
hired
and
their
program
has
been
expanding.
It's
been
incredibly
successful,
so
I
would
say
no
I
mean
cleaning
streets.
G
One
thing
even
that
I
have
some
questions
about
in
terms
of
data
and
why
we
need
to
add
this,
but
I
do
want
to
support
it
because,
yes,
I
agree.
We
need
to
address
that
immediately,
but
this
is
so
important.
We're
talking
about
humans
and
delivering
appropriate
Services
I
would
ask
that
we
wait
and
again
council
member
Burns
if
you'd
like
to
be
on
that
call
with
me
tomorrow
with
the
direct
directors
of
the
star
program
in
Denver,
which
I
think
is
one
of
the
a
leading
program
right
now
in
addressing
these
kind
of
concerns.
H
To
me
that
sounds
more
and
more
potentially
like
infringing
on
you
know
or
duplicating
the
work
really
truly,
that
trilogies
are
already
doing
yeah
as
opposed
to
having
a
full-time
person
again
assigned
to
that
downtown
area
to
make
contact
with
individual
individuals
interacting
with
services.
So
I'm
going
to
still
make
my
motion.
If
folks
want
to
vote
it
down,
that's
fine,
that's
fried
and
I
will
communicate.
That
too.
A
Yeah
councilmember
Burns
does
have
the
right
to
make
that
motion,
but,
like
the
motion
in
front
of
us,
is
to
approve
a
contract
as
outlined
in
A9
councilmember
Burns.
What
you're
talking
about
isn't
part
of
it
isn't
necessarily
part
of
this
contract
and
certainly
not
part
of
the
contract
as
proposed.
A
So
what
I
think
I
would
do
to
suggest
if
it
makes
sense
to
everybody,
is
to
have
a
vote
vote
on
item
A9
and
then,
if
council,
member
Burns
would
like
to
continue
this
discussion
as
chair
I
will
hear
that
discussion
under
items
for
discussion
which
is
later
on
in
this
agenda.
We
could
have
a
separate
motion.
Yeah.
H
I
would
like
to
make
the
Amendments
here
this
item
and
if
it
gets
voted
down,
it
gets
voted
down
we're
in
a
democracy.
That's
that's
more
defined.
I
would
like
to
make
amended
to
this
item
increasing
the
budget
by
125
000.
That
would
allow
staff
to
have
a
discussion
with
this
organization
to
see
if
it's
a
good
fit,
if
it's
not
great,
but
if
it
is
they'll
have
authorization
and
the
approved
dollar
amount
to
move
forward
in.
F
Fact
that
is
my
motion.
If
I
can
jump
in
here,
I
I
I
wanna,
we
have
a
long
agenda
but
I
I,
I,
I,
I,
get
council
member,
Burns's
motion
and
I
I
get
because
it's
a
sense
of
urgency
that
we
really
need
to
start
or
start
doing,
work
and
and
supporting
our
you
know,
homeless,
population
in
the
downtown,
so
I
get
this
sense
of
urgency,
but
I'm
also
hearing
what
my
colleagues
here
are
saying
is
there
might
be.
F
You
know
no
offense
to
Mr
Hilliard
or
you
know
his
group,
but
there
might
be
a
better
group
locally
that
can
handle
this,
and
we
want
to
explore
the
full
range
of
options
if
we're
going
to
spend
120
550
whatever
it
is
thousand
dollars,
let's
make
sure
we're
getting
the
best
contractor
and
so
I
would
support
this
coming
back.
If
staff
can
turn
this
around
by
our
next
meeting
and
and
have
some
kind
of
proposals
before
us
and
some
dollar
amount,
I
I
think
we'd
all
be
supportive
of
that
yeah
and.
H
Again,
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
Everything
just
said:
I
agree
with
the
only
difference
is,
is
if
they
come
back
and
they
say,
look
the
best
if
they,
if
they
make
a
decision,
that
this
is
the
best
route
that
we
can
take.
They'll
have
the
authorization
to
move
forward.
So
I'm
we're
talking
about
the
same
thing
in
terms
of
being
able
to
investigate
not
only
this
program
but
other
programs.
They
still
have
that
ability
to
do
that.
A
Councilmember
Reed
has
seconded
councilmember
Burns's
motion.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
that
motion
that
council
member.
G
Yeah
yeah
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
125
too,
is
such
a
random
amount.
You
know,
I
have
looked
at
costs
in
other
cities,
I
mean
I,
just
think
we're
just
throwing
out
that
amount,
because
that's
an
amount
that
this
particular
firm
would
add
on
to
the
contract.
So
I,
you
know
I
can't
support
that,
but
what
I
can
support
is
you
know
to
your
point:
to
have
staff
look
at
to
council
member
Reed's
point
to
have
staff
look
into
this
assess
the
program
that
is
offered
through
Street,
clean
or
Street
wise.
G
Street
plus
and
and
report
back
to
us
at
our
next
meeting
about
it.
A
All
right,
so,
let's,
if
there's
no
further
discussion
on
the
amendment
to
increase
the
amount
up
to
125
000
I,
will
call
a
vote
on
that
Amendment.
G
H
And
with
a
split
volt
chair,
does
this
get
forwarded
with
a
neutral
recommendation
to
the
council
I.
A
Am
going
to
look
to.
H
A
Okay,
so
as
amended,
if
I
could
restate
this
and
correct
me
if
I,
if
I
I'm,
not
if
what
I
am
about
to
say,
does
not
reflect
council
member
Burns's
understanding,
because
we
did
not
ask
to
reduce
that
motion
to
writing.
But
we
will
authorize
city
council.
Our
city
council
will
authorize
the
city
manager
to
execute
an
agreement
with
Street
plus
company
in
the
amount
not
to
exceed
633
thousand
dollars.
Six
hundred
thirty
three
thousand
two
hundred
and
fifty
Seven
cents.
F
And
I
guess
my
request,
for
this
is
for
staff
to
obviously
you're
going
to
do
due
diligence
on
this,
and
if
this
turns
out
to
maybe
not
I,
would
encourage
you
to
still
just
interrogate
all
of
the
options.
If
this
so
happens
to
be
a
really
good
option,
then
you
have
the
funding
to
just
move
forward
with
it.
If
not,
then,
at
the
next
meeting
bring
back
a
number
of
options
for
us
to
consider
at
around.
You
know:
100
25
to
150
000,
not
exceeding.
A
Yeah,
so
that
is
that
will
item
A9
will
move
to
council
with
with
that
stipulation
assuming
we
vote
it
on
it
and
pass
it.
So
I
will
ask
for
that.
Roll
call
now.
A
G
I
held
this
just
in
perhaps
this
can't
be
answered
now,
but
for
a
future
meeting.
I
would
just
be
curious.
I
feel
like
we're
I'd
like
to
know
the
expenses
for
maintenance
and
for
running
Robert
Crown
versus
what
we're
spending
in
programming,
but
I
don't
expect
that
answer
this
evening,
but
maybe
for
the
next
meeting.
G
C
C
That
I
understood,
but
the
way
you
explain
it,
maintenance
is
yes,
it
would
be
in
a
separate,
separate
account.
I'm,
not
sure
that
as
you're
aware
that
we
add
the
specific
facilities
maintenance
costs
at
each
Community,
Center.
G
A
So
staff
has
noted
that
request
seeing
no
further
discussion
on
item
a12
director
stoneback.
If
you
could
call
the
roll
council.
A
Aye
and
now
item
a12
passes
unanimously.
F
A
F
A
A14
has
been
moved
by
councilmember
Reed
seconded
by
council
member
Kelly.
Is
there
any
discussion
council,
member
Reed
and.
F
Especially
now,
in
the
interest
of
time,
I
will
move
to
table
this
until
I
think
we
should
have
enough
time
of
the
next
two
weeks
to
to
so
I
moved
to
table
this
to
the
next
regular
meeting
of
the
administration,
Public
Works
committee.
A
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
to
type
to
table
item
A14,
this
being
a
standing
committee.
Council
rules
do
not
yeah.
F
A
Role
do
we
need
to
we
need
a
vote
to
vote
on
this
yeah,
so
if
you
could
call
the
roll
please,
sir,.
A
Aye
by
vote
of
three
to
one
item,
A14
is
tabled
until
the
next
meeting
of
the
anpw
committee.
A
That's
bringing
us
to
item
a30
with
seven
minutes
to
go
item
I-30
is
is
accepting
a
report
on
sustainable
pest
control
and
pesticide
reduction.
A
If
we
could
have
a
motion
on
that
so
moved
and
is
there
a
second,
it's
been
moved
by
council
member
Reed
seconded
by
council
member
Kelly.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
item
a30?
H
This
is
the
only
item.
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
really
review
so
can
someone
Can
staff
really
speak
to
this.
B
On
the
floor,
go
ahead
all
right,
so
this
is
a
report
of
pesticide
activities
according
to
the
sustainable
pesticide
reduction
policy
that
the
city
passed-
and
this
is
a
report
that
is
meant
to
be
issued
every
two
years-
I
came
on
staff
in
February
of
2021.
H
H
I
do
but
in
between
meetings,
I'll,
I'll
review
and
I
was
just.
Does
this
go
to
council?
Is
that
what's
next?
A
You
chair,
okay,
councilmember
Kelly,.
G
Regarding
neonics
and
hopefully
we're
moving
forward
on
making
extra
sure
that
we
aren't
in
fact
purchasing
trees
from
places
that
are
using
those
and
I
had
a
question
regarding.
G
It
says
that
the
pesticide
report
says
that
the
city
applies
mwrd
biosolids,
on
athletic
fields
and
at
the
lad.
Arboretum
is
that
I
think
I
believe
that
there's
some
issues
from
what
I've
understood
with
some
of
these
biosolids
in
terms
of
with.
G
G
That
would
be
great
and
then
I
also
had
a
question.
I
know
with
our
oh.
What
is
it
the
Mosquito
Abatement
program
so
in
the
I
know
way
back
in
the
day,
you
could
just
call
to
be
be
omitted
from
the
spring,
but
now
it
seems
like
well
I
think
it's
been
going
on
for
a
few
years,
but
it's
sort
of
an
arduous
process.
G
You
have
to
get
a
doctor's
letter
and
everything
else
is
there
any
chance
that
we
could
look
at
making
it
more
accessible,
so
that
residents
could
just
opt
out
more
easily
yeah,
okay,
David
I.
C
Think
it's
a
separate
good
evening.
I,
don't
believe
that
they
are
spraying
at
this
point
in
time.
What
they
are
doing
is
treating
drainage
structures
and
known
locations,
so
they
do
not
spray
from
mosquitoes
anymore.
They
try
to
kill
them
in
the
in
the
larva.
C
They
they
do
not
spray,
they
notify
us
when
they
come
to
treat
drainage
structures
and
some
bodies
of
water
that
mosquitoes
might
infest.
But
there
is
no
sprain
taking.
F
A
Councilmember
Kelly
I
think
you
are
looking
at
the
same
information
that
I
am
that
we've
received
from
some
Community
Advocates,
so
I
would
suggest
in
the
interest
of
time
this
evening.
Maybe
we
have
some
follow-up
conversations
offline
to
to
give
some
feedback
to
Emily
in
her
Department
sounds.
A
Move
item,
so
we
need
to
vote
on
item
a
30
accepting
in
place
on
a
file.
This
report,
council.
C
A
F
Yes,
very
quickly,
with
the
two
to
three
minutes
that
we
have
left
Miss
Biggs,
so
it
so
I
think
this
is
important
for
folks
to
know.
So
we
started
off
with
a
huge
number
of
40
million
dollars
to
make
some
improvements
to
the
service
center
that
we
have
here
on
Asbury.
F
Then
you
know
we
potentially
winnowed
down
to
around
10
million
dollars
if
we
were
to
create
a
new
building
near
James
park,
and
if
we
were
to
move
forward
with
this
plan,
which
is
to
use
the
recycling
center
for
storage
and
make
some
modifications.
That
number
is
now
down
to
like
2.5
million
or
somewhere
around.
That.
F
I
Committee,
my
name
is
Laura
Biggs
I'm,
the
city
engineer,
so
the
the
there
were
a
couple
of
choices
for
how
to
improve
the
service
center,
one
of
which
was
around
40
million
and
one
which
was
more
around
the
23
million
dollar
stage,
and
the
23
million
dollars
included
10
and
a
half
million
dollars
to
build
a
new
recycling
center,
replace
the
Cycling
Center
by
building
a
new
storage
building
in
James
Park.
I
If
we
stay
at
the
recycling
center,
that's
two
and
a
half
million
dollars.
So
now
we're
still
at
roughly
16
million
dollars,
12
to
16
million
dollars
in
improvements,
but
we're
working
on
figuring
out
how
to
do
things
more
cost
effectively.
Definitely
two
and
a
half
million
is
better
than
10
and
a
half
million.
So
there's
an
eight
million
dollar
savings.
Okay,.
F
I
I,
I,
I
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
path
forward
with
the
recycling
center.
It's
it's
in
the
eighth
Ward.
You
know,
I
think
some
folks
had
some
hopes
that
maybe
a
climbing
gym-
or
you
know
a
brewery-
would
be
there.
But
if
we
can
save,
you
know
millions
of
dollars
and
I
guess
one
thing:
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
fully
without
this.
Was
there
an
analysis
in
here
regarding
you
know
what
we
projected
we
could
get
if
we
were
to.
F
If
the
recycling
center
were
the
the
former,
the
building
formerly
known
as
the
recycling
center
were
to
come
back
online,
be
owned
by
a
private
entity.
Pay
property
taxes
potentially
generate
sales
taxes.
Did
we
do
a
cost
analysis?
We.
I
Did
a
very
brief
cost
analysis,
so
we
estimate
we
could
get
approximately
a
million
dollars
for
the
building
and
then
and
the
property
and
then
fifty
thousand
dollars
ish
for
annual
property
tax,
which
over
a
20-year
period,
is
about
a
million
dollars.
So
that's
two
million
dollars.
We
did
not
address
sales
tax
because
that
varies
so
widely.
F
F
And,
and
so
the
easy
answer
is
to
say,
it's
better
to
use
this
building,
as
is,
and
then
I
think
even
layering
into
this.
If
we
were
to
go
with
this
there's
the
animal
shelter,
that's
going
to
have
some
work
done
pretty
soon
and
I
think
it
was
also
a
possibility.
If
we
made
some
investments
in
this
building,
we
could
temporarily
locate
the
animals
there.
Saving
the
taxpayers
a
bit
of
money
on
having
a
potentially
locate
the
animals
at
another
non-city-owned
facility.
Is
that
also
still
a
possibility.
I
So
there's
there's
two
different
types
of
animals,
dogs
and
cats,
and
they
have
very,
very
different
needs,
so
the
cats
are
actually
easier
to
relocate.
They
just
need
a
relatively
quiet
space
with
a
few
amenities,
dishwasher
and
laundry,
and
so
that
can
be
done
in
a
number
of
different
places
around
the
city.
It's
pretty
easy
to
find
that
location.
The
dogs
are
very
challenging.
They
need
floor
drains,
they're
very
loud
with
the
Barking.
I
F
Okay,
well
I
think,
hopefully,
we've
solved
all
a
whole
bunch
of
issues
and
save
the
taxpayers.
A
bunch
of
money
and
I
think
we're
on
the
right
track.
Thank.
I
A
So,
if,
if
we
vote
to
accept
this,
are
we
we're
not
formally
approving
any
expenses
yeah
we're
basically
providing
guidance
that
we
do
not
want
to
pursue
putting
Municipal
storage
at
James
Park?
But
we
want
to
conceptually
do
that
at
the
recycling
center
more
discussion
to
follow
as
we
pursue
that
line
of.
I
I
C
A
Right,
I
have
no
objections.
Any
further
discussion
on
item
a31,
seeing
none
Deputy
manager
stonebank.
If
you
could
call
the
roll
council.
A
Reed
aye
item
a31
passes
unanimously,
bringing
us
to
the
end
of
our
agenda,
seeing
no
further
business
to
come
before
the
committee
I
declare
this
meeting
adjourned.