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B
A
Terrific
thank
you.
We
have.
We
have
quorum.
I
expect
some
of
the
other
council
members
to
arrive.
That
aren't
here
right
now.
Welcome
everyone
to
the
Saturday,
that's
unusual
festive
Saturday,
but
to
the
Saturday
October
27th
2018
meeting.
It
is
a
sort
of
a
special
meeting,
because
today's
meeting
is
about
the
Evanston
city
budget,
which
we've
been
talking
about
for
some
time
and
obviously
have
some
real
challenges
this
year
that
have
to
be
addressed.
A
The
way
today's
meeting
is
going
to
go
is
we've
got
two
public
hearings
and
then
we'll
actually
go
into
the
meeting,
which
is
several
items
on
the
special
order
of
business.
So
the
first
one
is
in
regards
to
the
2019
proposed
budget
for
the
city
of
Evanston.
Pursuant
to
the
Illinois
compiled
statutes
and
sections
1
11
5
of
the
city
code,
the
Evanston
City
Council
is
conducting
a
public
hearing
today
to
consider
the
fiscal
year
2019
proposed
budget
document.
The
purpose
of
this
hearing
is
to
allow
for
the
public
input
into
the
proposed
budget
document.
A
I
hereby
convene
the
hearing
for
the
fiscal
year.
2019
proposed
budget
presentation,
open
I'd
like
to
ask
the
city
CFO
at
this
time,
just
to
give
a
short
presentation
about
the
budget
and
the
tax
levies.
Let's
do
both
of
those
attached
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
to
public
comment
and
I've
got
folks
that
have
signed
up
here
and
in
F
after
we've
completed
that
you
haven't
signed
up
and
you
want
to
all.
Let
you
come
on
up
today.
Welcome
at
good.
C
C
This
is
the
budget
presentation
just
a
short
summary
for
the
19
and
the
tax
levy
for
the
tax
year
2018
and
then
it
talks
about
the
upcoming
meetings
Monday
night,
the
City
Council
meetings
about
the
budget
and
again
on
November
12th
Monday
for
the
city
budget.
Now
this
is
the
old
funds
of
the
2019
proposed
budget,
the
expenditure,
obviously
the
general
fund,
the
main
phone
carrying
at
one
hundred
and
fifteen
million
dollars
or
thirty
six
percent
of
the
total
budget
and
followed
by
some
of
the
Enterprise
Fund,
which
are
the
Warriors
who
were
parking
in.
C
This
is
the
2019
proposed
budget,
all
from
the
revenue
side
and
where
we
are-
and
this
is
by
the
category,
some
of
those
one
again
general
fund
at
thirty
five
percent
of
the
total
special
revenue
funds
at
around
thirteen
million
dollar
debt
service.
At
sixteen
million
capital
projects
at
around
thirty
three
million
dollars.
C
This
is
the
tax
levy.
This
is
the
tax
levy
for
2018.
The
money
would
come
in
2019
for
the
city
of
Evanston,
so
you
look
at
the
general
fund,
which
is
kind
of
called
corporate
levy.
At
nine
point:
five
million
dollars
I'm
out
of
pension
at
one
point:
five:
a
general
assistance
fund
at
nine
hundred
thousand
that
levies
remaining
flow
and
solid
waste,
one
at
820,000,
which
makes
up
of
twelve
point
seven
million
dollars
for
city
and
general
assistance
Larry.
C
This
is
the
other
part
of
the
pension
funds
of
the
Fire
pension
police
pension
fund.
Now
Fire
pension
levy
at
seven
point:
nine
million
dollars.
So
it's
going
down
compared
to
the
last
year,
whereas
the
police
pension
fund
is
slightly
going
up
by
39,000
compared
to
the
2017
levy
that
service
one
way
for
our
bonds
issued
principle
and
interest
on
our
advance.
C
We
are
keeping
its
flat
at
ten
point:
eight
million
dollars,
so
the
total
city
net
levy
is
forty,
one
point:
seven
million
dollars,
library,
library
levy,
the
six
point:
seven
million
dollars
for
this
year,
increase
of
one
hundred
and
twenty
three
thousand
dollars
compared
to
the
2017
level
library,
front
debt
service
levy,
slight
increase
of
twenty
thousand
dollars,
so
the
total
library
net
levy
is
going
up
by
one
hundred
and
forty
three
thousand
this
year
special
service
areas.
The
city
has
two
special
service
areas.
Where
we
levy
the
text
is
right.
C
Now,
special
service
area
for
the
levy
is
going
up.
One
hundred
fifty
thousand
five
thousand.
This
is
mainly
because
of
the
increased
DAV.
So
most
likely
the
rate
would
remain
the
same,
but
just
to
capture
part
of
the
Washington
National,
and
some
of
them
may
be
the
expansion
so
and
then
the
special
service
area,
six,
the
levies
remaining
flat
at
two
hundred
twenty
one
thousand.
A
Let's
see
existing
first
one
yeah,
okay,
I've
got
folks
that
have
signed
up
and
I'll
call
off
the
first
three
names
and
if
you
guys
can
just
line
up
and
make
your
make
your
comments,
as
we
sort
of
always
say
if
somebody
else
is
really
sort
of
made.
The
key
point
that
you
want,
you
can
say:
hey
I,
just
want
to
reiterate.
I
agree
with
so-and-so.
I
would
ask
people
if
we
can
try
to.
You
know,
keep
your
comments
to
three
minutes
or
less,
and
that
would
be
ideal.
A
D
Good
morning,
mayor
Haggerty
members
of
the
city
council,
city
manager,
Bob
quits,
we
are
Susan
Davis,
Friedman
and
Beth
Adler
were
the
co-chairs
of
the
Evanston
Arts
Council
in
2012
Evanston
named
the
Arts
one
of
six
targeted
business
sectors
with
potential
to
drive
economic
development.
Evan
starts
a
community-wide
outreach
project
was
launched
to
frame
a
strong
vision
for
the
arts
in
Evanston.
More
than
750
residents
representing
the
city's
nine
Ward's
helped
to
bring
this
vision
into
focus.
D
The
overarching
vision
developed
by
this
task
force
states
Evanston,
is
invested
in
fostering
a
dynamic,
accessible
and
culturally
rich
arts
community,
where
creativity
flourishes
in
a
welcoming
collaborative
environment
that
encourages
lifelong
participation
in
the
arts
by
residents
and
visitors
alike.
For
the
five
years
that
followed,
the
city
of
Evanston
has
funded
a
cultural
arts
coordinator
who,
together
with
the
Arts
Council,
oversaw
program,
grants
and
public
art
investments.
The
proposed
2019
Evanston
city
budget
eliminates
all
175,000
in
general
arts
funding.
D
In
addition
to
the
loss
of
the
cultural
arts
coordinator
position,
the
budget
eliminates
$30,000
in
cultural
fund
grants
$10,000
in
community
support
art
fund
grants
in
10,000
administrative
costs,
which
part
which
in
part,
funds,
civic
arts
activities
and
training.
In
addition,
75,000
in
yearly
public
arts
funding
has
also
been
eliminated
from
the
capital
budget.
The
city
of
Evanston
in
the
Evanston
Arts
Council
has
a
long
history
of
providing
funding
to
local
or
artists
and
arts
organizations,
making
art
experiences
and
programs
accessible
to
all
members
of
our
community.
D
This
funding
is
essential
to
the
Evanston
arts
community.
We
hear
time
and
time
again
that
grants
from
the
city
of
Evanston
in
the
Evanston
Arts
Council
provide
important
validation
for
arts
organizations.
The
funding
we
provide
in
turn
helps
these
organizations
to
go
out
and
raise
funds
from
private
sources
that
allow
them
to
continue
to
have
an
impact
on
Evanston
residents
through
their
programs.
Additionally,
we
have
seen
the
positive
economic
impacts
of
public
art
beautifying
our
landscape
and
theater
music
and
dance
performances,
encouraging
people
from
neighboring
communities
to
spend
time
and
money
supporting
Evanston
businesses
a.
E
Yearly
allocation
supporting
public
art
has
helped
to
fund
11
murals
for
lease
sculptures
and
one
major
environmental
sculpture
at
the
Green
Bay
Emerson
Ridge
intersection.
This
sculpture
called
stitch
along
with
the
murals
that
surround
it,
represent
the
stitching
together
of
several
Evanston
communities
and
provide
an
exciting
entry
point
into
our
city,
where
there
was
once
a
dark
and
gloomy
corridor.
E
Public
art
in
every
Ward
continues
to
be
an
Arts
Council
priority.
We
want
all
our
citizens
to
experience
art
in
their
immediate
surroundings.
We
have
current
public
art
commitments
that
require
completion,
including
a
mural
scheduled
for
spring
2019
and
sculptural
leases
that
continue
into
2020.
We
therefore
asking
for
25,000
in
capital
funding
to
meet
these
budget
obligations.
The
Evanston
Arts
Council
respectfully
requests
the
re-examination
of
arts
funding
in
the
2019
budget.
E
We
would
like
to
see
the
following
reinstated
for
2019,
which
represents
a
70%
reduction
in
the
funding
that
was
allocated
in
2018
30,000
for
the
Lord
Fund
grants
10,000
for
the
community
support,
Arts,
Fund
grants,
10,000
and
administrative
costs
and
25,000
for
the
neighborhood
public
art
fund.
In
closing,
we
know
that
the
arts
coordinator
position
needs
to
be
eliminated
at
this
time.
E
However,
we
hope
that
you
will
consider
reinstating
funding
for
this
position
at
a
later
date,
so
that
the
city
of
Evanston
and
the
Evanston
Arts
Council
can
have
advocate
in
making
an
investment
in
the
city's
residents
through
it
through
its
grant
making
activities.
We
understand
the
City
Council
has
some
difficult
decisions
to
make
over
the
next
month.
Keeping
basic
city
services
and
supporting
vital
youth
programs
is
critical.
It's
easy
to
target
the
arts
as
unnecessary.
E
A
F
Thank
you
very
much
good
morning,
mayor
members
of
the
City
Council.
My
name
is
Kim
Kea,
Harris
and
I'm,
an
attorney
that
represents
the
Illinois
Fraternal
Order
of
Police
Labor
Council.
We
represent
the
patrol
officers
sergeants
and
non
sworn
police
personnel
who
work
for
the
city.
There
is
more
at
stake
here
than
just
dollars
and
cents.
The
bigger
issue
is
the
quality
of
life
that
the
citizens
of
Everson
have
come
to
expect
and
an
effective
police
department
is
a
major
factor
in
maintaining
a
good
quality
of
life.
F
An
effective
police
department
is
one
of
responds
quickly
to
calls
has
well-trained
and
motivated
officers
and
interacts
with
the
community
through
citizen
programs.
This
keeps
the
crime
rate
low.
It
makes
residents
feel
good
about
living
here.
That
is
what
we
have
now
in
Evanston,
but
this
major
factor
in
Evanston's
quality
of
life
is
in
jeopardy.
If
the
cuts
that
you
are
discussing
are
enacted,
not
filling
vacant
positions
will
lead
to
longer
response
times.
F
It
may
take
longer
for
those
police
officers
to
arrive
at
your
house
because
there
might
be
fear
of
them
on
duty
and
at
any
given
time.
These
officers
will
likely
have
Laura,
Morales
and
maybe
more
susceptible
to
burnout,
because
they
are
working
more
days
in
longer
hours
to
make
up
for
the
unfulfilled
positions
and
overworked
officers
are
more
likely
to
be
injured
on
the
job,
presenting
a
liability
risk
for
the
city
is
cutting
the
budget.
F
Then
this
way
worked
the
human
cost
in
more
property
damage,
theft
or
violence,
not
to
mention
the
on-the-job
injuries
that
may
result
from
an
understaffed
and
overworked
police
department.
Let's
not
forget
the
great
relationship
the
police
department
has
with
the
community
through
the
officer
and
gentleman
program,
the
star
program
for
young
teen,
women,
Alice
training,
the
Citizen
Police
Academy,
and
the
explorers
program
officers
want
to
continue
to
offer
these
and
other
programs
to
bridge
the
relationship
between
the
police
department
and
the
citizens.
F
How
can
they
keep
doing
this
if
officers
barely
have
time
to
do
their
regular
jobs?
We
know
you
face
a
lot
of
tough
choices,
as
you
wrestle
with
the
city's
budget,
we
simply
ask
that
you
look
down
the
road
to
the
effects
that
the
budget
cuts
in
the
police
department
will
have
on
your
fellow
citizens
and
neighbors.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Thank.
G
Genet
risky
I
think
everyone
comes
here
and
I
know.
Many
people
are
concerned
about
their
one
issue,
but
the
bigger
issue
is:
there's
no
money
left
to
really
run
anything
anymore.
The
city's
bankrupt,
of
course,
a
bankruptcy.
What
does
bankruptcy
really
mean
city's?
Not
gonna,
go
insolvent.
It's
not
gonna
go
into
receivership.
It's
basically
going
to
mean
the
taxes
are
going
to
go
up
dramatically.
G
The
council
doesn't
want
to
do
that,
but
that's
where
it's
headed,
it's
a
huge
tax
increase
and
it's
basically
because
of
ten
years
of
mismanagement,
problems
and
waste
lawsuits
and
issues
I
mean
it's
pretty
clear:
I
send
the
council
emails
every
few
days,
I
sent
the
council
an
email
recently
about
the
lawsuits.
Basically,
the
lawsuits
are
continuing,
not
beyond
this.
G
Beyond
this
budget
cycle
into
2020
and
the
city's
under
representing
those
lawsuits,
the
amount
of
money
it's
costing
and
if
the
budget
will
be
the
same
problem
in
2020,
we'll
probably
close
to
a
seven
million
dollar
hole.
So
this
is
all
there,
but
nobody
seems
to
look
at
it,
it's
all
being
hidden,
basically
by
hidden.
Nobody
wants
to
talk
about
it.
It's
not
being
clearly
conveyed
to
people
and
I've
talked
to
a
council
member
about
a
month
ago.
G
Even
the
board
was
saying
the
city
just
is
making
up
stuff,
and
this
is
what
goes
on
here
all
the
time,
and
this
is
why
we're
in
a
huge,
huge
budget
problem-
and
it
is
going
to
get
worse
so
you
better
decide
what
you
want
to
do
to
fix
it,
I'm
not
going
to
even
go
into
all
the
details.
I
guess
I
get
to
speak
at
a
few
more
hearings,
so
we'll
go
into
more
details,
but
I'm
just
warning
you
you
better
fix
it
because
you're
gonna
have
to
face
it.
H
Good
morning,
honorable
mayor
members
of
City,
Council
and
city
officials,
I
am
dr.
Don
Ziegler
resident
since
1979
living
in
the
4th
Ward
at
14:30,
Elmwood
I'm
on
the
faculty,
the
School
of
Public
Health
at
UIC.
Also
at
Loyola
University
and
proudly
I
chair,
the
Evanston
Health
Advisory
Council,
the
proposed
budget
cut.
The
proposed
budget
cuts
five
positions
in
the
health
department,
we're
willing
to
compromise
with
the
council.
If
you
have
to,
let's
cut
only
to
the
vital
records
and
domestic-violence
positions,
those
services
can
be
covered
by
other
groups.
H
Certified
health
department's
can
and
do
get
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
of
federal
and
state
funds
to
protect
our
health,
particularly
the
most
vulnerable
of
our
city.
Our
director
is
a
recognized
leader
who
leverages
relationships
with
stakeholders
and
manages
the
entire
HHS
department
getting
funds
and
definitely
needs
the
assistant
director
to
manage
day-to-day
operations.
The
health
educator
is
a
critical
to
conduct
our
chronic
disease
programs
on
obesity,
diabetes,
heart
disease
and
cancer.
H
That
position
manages
the
essential
community
needs
assessment
and
five-year
plan,
or
a
plan
required
of
a
certified
health
department,
as
well
as
overseeing
numerous
unpaid
interns.
While
communicable
diseases
are
important,
they
are
not
the
only
health
challenges
we
face.
The
inclusion
work
with
us
compromise
with
us
cut
the
five
positions
but
retained
the
three
most
critical
for
Evanson
and
our
certified
health
department
without
them
will
likely
increase
our
health
challenges,
worsen
health
inequities
and
fail
our
citizens
who
depend
on
services
and
the
leadership
of
the
health
department.
Thank
you
great.
I
Good
morning,
I
am
the
president
for
the
Advocate
Evanston
advocates
for
action,
which
is
a
Community
Leadership
Council
formed
by
cradle
to
career,
and
we
were
asked
by
the
equity
Commission
Council
to
do
a
it's,
not
too
late
budget
follow-up
survey,
and
that
was
formed
because
of
the
response
that
we
got
from
the
original
budget
survey.
Recognizing
that
most
people
did
not
respond
to
the
survey.
Most
people
did
not
fill
out
the
survey.
They
were
not
aware
of
the
survey.
I
So
what
we
did,
we
hit
the
streets
and
we
got
results
from
the
least
informed
communities,
and
they,
the
results
were
very
alarming
because
they
said
that
they
did
not
participate
in
the
budget
survey
because
they
felt
like
that.
Their
voice
would
not
be
heard
if
they
felt
like
that.
They
would
not
that
they
do
not
matter
in
this
community
and
I
feel
like
once.
We
gave
them
the
tools
that
they
needed
to
be
able
to
be
a
part
of
something
and
they
felt
like
that.
I
Their
voice
were
was
heard
and
they
were
able
to
get
information
regarding
meetings
and
where
they
could
come
and
make
their
voice
heard
that
they
were
very
they
were.
They
were
much
more
comfortable
with
what
was
going
on
in
their
community.
They
recognized
that
some
of
the
services
that
they
need
that
they
need
a
lot
were
being
cut
and
that
if
they
did
not
get
out
and
voice
their
concerns
about
that
that
this
would
be
detrimental
to
their
families
and
the
community
on
them.
I
So
we
got
over
500
surveys
done
in
less
than
30
days,
and
it
was.
It
was
great.
It
was
great
to
see
that
our
people
were
now
informed
with
good
wisdom
and
knowledge
and
that
they
would
be
able
to
make
informed
decisions
about
the
budget
and
the
money
that
is
being
spent
in
their
community.
So
we
thank
the
equity
committee,
Commission
Council,
for
allowing
us
to
do
that
and
for
allowing
the
community
to
be
informed.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
have
a
good
day
great.
J
Understand
budgets:
I
was
the
president
of
high
school
district
214
when
we
closed
schools
and
we
read
district
the
area
when
I
got
death
threats
at
home,
because
the
secretary
thought
that
it
was
more
important
to
keep
me
protected
at
work
than
rather
protecting.
My
children
from
answering
those
phone
calls
with
those
death
threats,
so
I
understand,
budgets
and
I
know
how
tough
they
are
and
I
know
how
tough
your
decisions
are.
J
But
I
think
it's
important
for
the
city
of
Evanston
to
remember
that
the
safety
of
our
citizens
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
moved
here
that
we
chose
to
live
here
in
our
police
and
fire
should
be
supported
fully.
They
should
be
fully
staffed,
they
should
be
available
and
ready.
They
should
be
motivated
to
do
the
kind
of
work
that
they're
the
best
at
and
I.
Look
to
all
of
you
to
make
sure
that
our
city
remains
safe
and
that
the
prettiness
is
not
the
important
part.
K
Morning
my
name
is
Pat
burns
I
financially,
and
that
was
my
role
in
life
and
when
I
look
at
the
budget,
there's
some
things,
I,
don't
understanding,
especially
some
timing
of
it.
You
started
in
spring
with
a
2.9
million
dollar
deficit.
Two
months
later,
three
months,
four
months
later,
it's
now
seven
point
four
I!
Don't
understand
why,
in
four
or
five
months
you
came
up
with
the
extra
four
point:
five
million
dollars
worth
of
costs
is
where
it's
coming
from:
where
were
they
January
in
February?
K
The
other
part
is
I've
reviewed,
all
244
pages
of
the
budget
and
what
I
did
not
find
in
it
was
a
forward.
Look
that
says
in
2020,
21
22,
23
24,
what
the
expenditures
and
revenues
look
like,
and
if
what
the
deficit
looks
like
in
the
future
years
and
I
think
that's
important
part
of
planning
for
the
future,
we're
faced
with
a
seven
point
four
this
year.
What
is
what's
next
year
that
I'd
like
to
see?
Thank
you
thank.
L
L
The
things
that
I
have
and
then
I'm
lucky
enough
to
achieve,
and
though
that
part
of
it
is
the
intangible
and
really
critical
piece
that
the
Health
Department
and
Health
and
Human
Services
Department,
plays
this
helped
I've.
Seen
a
lot
of
health
departments.
This
Health
and
Human
Services
Department
plays,
which
is
that
the
leadership
that
we
show
there
to
move
toward
health
equity,
to
convene
partners
to
move
in
the
same
direction
to
work
with
all
of
our
social
service
agencies.
L
And
if
we
fund
this
health
department
in
such
a
way
that
it's
like
put
your
head
down
staff
just
get
the
day
to
day
done,
don't
show
any
leadership
don't
be
out
there
in
the
community,
get
what
has
to
be
done
done.
Don't
have
an
Operations
leadership
so
that
we
can
also
be
a
community
leader,
I
think
we're
selling
Evanston
residents
really
short
and
that
the
long-term
outcomes
of
that
of
not
having
the
kind
of
leadership
that
brought,
for
instance,
Erie
Family,
Health
Center
to
Evanston
a
few
years
ago.
L
Some
work
that's
being
done
around
mental
health
and
behavioral
health
and
diversion
from
the
criminal
justice
system
for
people
with
behavioral
health
issues
that
are
a
burden
on
our
Police
Department
right
and
are
causing
higher
higher
calls
to
the
police
that
we
don't.
We
could
potentially
not
have
if
we
had
a
Health
Department,
that's
able
to
work
in
partnership
with
community
partners
to
to
address
what
you
know
think
things
that
should
not
be
part
of
the
criminal
justice
system
and
so
on.
L
So
I
really
think
that
what
we
really
need
to
be
thinking
about
is
long-term
and
the
really
important
not
as
easily
quantified
tangible
things
that
the
Health
and
Human
Services
Department
does,
but
the
really
important
things
that
how
that
bring
this
community
together
and
make
this
community
a
healthy,
safe
place
to
live
for
everybody
and
those
three
positions
are
really
critical
to
that
job
of
the
Health
Department,
the
job
of
any
Health
Department
and
the
job
that
our
Health
Department
does
so
well.
Thank
you.
Thank.
M
Good
morning
my
name
is
reto.
Williams
I
am
here
with
advocates
for
action
I'm
here
with
advocates
for
action,
and
we
would
like
to
just
reiterate
the
importance
of
community
voice,
not
only
hearing
it
and
seeking
it
out,
but
listening
as
well
with
the
budget
survey
here,
I'm
going
to
let
Glenn
speak
a
little
more
to
it,
but
I
would
like
to
pass
out
some
of
those
surveys
to
you
guys.
So
you
can
see
exactly
what
we
did
when
we
went
out
into
our
community.
N
Thank
you.
This
is
a
brief
survey
that
we
handed
out
to
people
that
were
not
just
fell
between
the
cracks,
but
were
forced
between
the
cracks
by
the
city.
Doing
a
very
poor
job
of
recognizing
its
own
citizens
in
need.
You
know
fifth
Ward
were
woke.
Second
Ward
is
well
thanks.
Robin,
you
know
we
are
going
to
make
a
push
right
now
to
hold
everybody
accountable
for
their
actions,
because
you're
no
longer
going
to
allow
this
Corporation
of
Evanson
to
dictate
our
lives
and
cut
our
throats.
N
We
have
city
services
that
we
need
fire
departments,
Police
Department's
the
same
people
that
you
call
that
you
know
are
going
to
be
there
you're
going
to
cut
their
throat.
That
is
not
a
good
decision
that
that's
that's
a
mental
illness
and
it
seems
like
you,
meet
our
services
as
well,
so
we're
gonna,
hold
everybody
accountable.
I'm,
tell
the
city
of
Evanston
residents,
wake
up
it's
time
to
move
for
action,
join
us
and
make
sure
that
the
corporation
doesn't
takeover
and
dictate
our
lives.
A
O
It's
not
an
easy
side
to
sit
on
at
this
time
of
the
year
when
it
comes
time
to
talk
about
budgets
and
I'm,
not
going
to
talk
about
gloom
and
doom,
because
we
all
know
that
we
have
problems
and
we
have
to
solve
them
together.
But
I
do
want
to
remind
us
about
a
Health
Department
and
the
legacy
of
that
we
have
the
oldest
Health
Department
in
the
state
of
Illinois
and
I.
O
O
Out-Of-The-Box
thinking,
you
are
I,
know
that
people
across
train
in
the
city
of
Evanston,
so
we
can
figure
out
how
to
keep
a
vital
statistics
department
in
the
health
department.
We
can
figure
that
out
because
we
have
people
who
are
cross
trained,
who
can
provide
that
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
service
that
we
have
to
do
every
day.
Maybe
we
do
it?
Three
times
a
week,
but
whatever
that
is
a
service
needed
by
our
community
now
I
know
you
say
you
can
go
to
the
currency
exchange.
O
Yes,
you
can,
but
guess
what
happens
when
you
get
there,
you
get
an
application,
you
filled
it
out
and
then
seven
to
ten
days
later,
you
get
your
birth
certificate
or
your
death
certificate
that
doesn't
work
well
in
the
community
who
have
people
who
look
like
me
later.
If
you
need
to
bury
someone,
you
need
that
death
certificate
right
away.
So
we
need
to
think
about
that.
Somebody
spoke
about
the
prettiness
of
Evanson.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
prettiness
a
lot
of
trees,
but
you
all
know
what
I
think
about
trees.
O
God
will
take
care
of
him,
so
we
can
look
at
that
budget
where
trees
are
concerned.
Those
are
that's
the
kind
of
out-of-the-box
thinking,
I
hope
this
committee
will
do
and
actually
I'm
challenging
you
on
doing
that.
I
still
feel
that
Evanson
is
small
enough
and
we
all
are
smart
enough
to
do
whatever
we
need
to
do
to
keep
our
community
together.
We
certainly
don't
need
a
divided
community.
A
budget
process
wasn't
the
greatest
come
out
of
informing
people.
O
P
Mr.
mayor
members
of
the
City
Council
city
manager,
Bob
quits,
my
name
is
Billy
Lynch
I'm,
the
president
of
Evanston,
firefighters,
local
742,
alongside
dozens
of
my
brothers
and
sisters,
I
stand
before
you
this
morning,
as
we
collectively
voice
our
steadfast
opposition
to
the
proposed
cuts
to
the
fire
department
for
over
90
years,
engine
24
has
responded
out
of
station
number
four
located
at
1817,
Washington
Street,
answering
thousands
upon
thousands
of
emergency
calls
for
service
times
have
sure
changed.
P
The
fire
officers
who
currently
call
station
for
their
home
are
three
of
the
best
firefighters
we
have
on
this
job.
They
are
captain's
who
have
confidently
led
their
crews
in
the
structure,
fires
and
who
have
calmly
directed
their
crews
on
critical
medical
calls
when
seconds
and
minutes
count
collectively
they
have
devoted
over
77
years
of
service
to
the
residents
and
the
city
of
Evanston.
Their
professionalism
and
dedication
to
this
city
are
a
microcosm
of
this
department
and
this
local
pound
for
pound
I
will
put
these
captain's.
P
P
As
a
council,
you
have
been
tasked
with
difficult
decisions.
Over
the
next
few
weeks,
hard
unpopular
decisions
will
have
to
be
made,
as
I
previously
stated
to
many
of
you.
We
local
742
remain
committed
to
identifying
viable
solutions
to
the
financial
problems.
The
city
faces
solutions,
however,
that
do
not
include
firefighters
and
do
not
include
fire
stations,
our
most
valuable
resources.
P
By
now,
you've
all
heard
the
statistics
that,
over
the
last
35
years,
our
call
volume
has
increased
by
over
seventy
percent
without
a
single
increase
in
our
daily
staffing.
In
fact,
we've
actually
lost
daily
staffing,
a
fully
manned
squad.
Around
that
same
time
period,
you've
heard
that
the
elimination
of
engine
24
will
produce
about
a
50%
increase
in
response
times
to
that
district,
and
that's
just
assuming
that
engine
21
and
engine
22,
which
are
already
our
two
busiest
engines,
are
available
to
respond
to
an
emergency
on
the
west
end
you
have
even
may.
P
You
have
may
even
have
heard
from
other
representatives
of
the
city
that
it
makes
sense
to
examine
the
services
of
the
fire
department
when,
in
fact,
someone
who
actually
knows
what
they're
talking
about
would
see
that
an
examination
of
the
fire
department
would
warrant
an
increase
in
daily
staffing.
But
what
you
have
not
heard
up
until
now,
and
what
you
need
to
hear
is
this
and
I
do
not
say
this
lightly.
P
I
will
leave
you
all
with
this.
When
the
dust
settles
on
this
budget
season
and
we
turn
the
page
to
next
year.
It
is
my
hope
it
is
my
sincere
wish
that
on
January,
1st
2019,
when
the
first
9-1-1
call
requests
a
fire
department,
services
comes
in
is
a
call
for
service
in
the
West
End
and
engine
24,
as
it
has
for
the
last
90
years,
answers
that
call
with
pride,
responding
out
of
18
17
Washington
Street.
Anything
less
is
unacceptable.
Thank
you.
A
Q
It
seems
that
a
number
of
things
have
been
brought
up
with
our
accountant
front
here
and
when
you
look
at
things,
there's
a
missed
opportunity,
costs,
there's,
there's
hidden
costs
and
those
things
need
to
be
weighed
into
decisions
and
those
things
aren't
what
are
expressed
normally
in
the
dollars
and
cents.
Unless
you
know
you're
familiar
with
the
operations
per
se,
so
it
makes
it
a
little
bit
but
more
difficult.
So
we
use
a
little
bit
of
our
intuition
to
say
something's
missing
in
terms
of
preventing
losses.
Q
I
think
that
during
the
reorganization
and
restructuring
and
the
in
community
engagement
that
empowerment,
Commission,
led
by
Pat,
is
going
to
move
forward
and
work
with
everybody
to
integrate
processes
that
will
increase
efficiencies
and
the
engagement
of
the
community
I
think
there's
going
to
be
a
really
good
hope
that
communication
will
be
so
much
better
improved.
So
much
earlier
on
that,
just
like
getting
ready
for
this
meeting
after
Wally
wrote
down
those
notes
from
those
little
meetings
and
me
going
through
those
I
could
see,
and
then
also
with
the
safety
of
the
finding
out.
Q
That
HHS
is
grant
money
related
in
terms
of
cutting
positions
and
finding
that
out
came
up
with
a
solution
that
gave
us
back
a
million
dollars.
So
that
means
you
need
people
kind
of
talking
and
iterating
until
finally,
someone
goes,
oh,
my
god
I.
Remember
this
or
that,
because
that's
complicated,
obviously
I
would
beg
that.
Q
It's
hard
and
difficult
and
extremely
stressful
to
be
poor.
So
I
think
we
have
a
great
city
and
where
we're
head
is
actually
really
really
good
and
we're
going
to
learn
from
our
mistakes.
So
Fountain
Square
should
be
a
starting
place.
How
can
we
avoid
it
in
the
future?
I
think
small
meetings
like
what
well
I
had
early
on
and
in
planning
and
development
and
engagement,
like
that's
gonna,
be
defining
in
terms
of
equity,
are
key.
Thank.
R
Good
morning
everybody
I
am
a
personal
care
assistant
and
a
home
care
aide.
I
am
a
CNA
by
trade.
I
work
in
the
eighth
ward
also
work
with
two
individuals.
They
have
taken
on
the
task
to
care
for
family
friends,
and
those
are
our
community
that
need
help
but
want
to
keep
their
independence.
I,
couldn't
imagine
an
individual
that
has
a
pulse
of
140
and
rising
have
to
wait.
I
couldn't
imagine
someone
as
a
blood
pressure
198
over
over
86
has
to
wait.
I
rise
with
each
one
of
the
stations.
R
There
are
many
times
when
Ridge
had
to
be
shut
down,
because
the
individuals
I
was
with
was
at
risk
and
I
thank
God
for
the
individual.
That
came
quickly
to
take
that
person
with
me,
so
they
can
get
the
care
that
they
need.
The
individual
of
Everson
has
came
here
because
they
believe
this
is
a
town
that
would
take
care
of
them,
but
also
there's
pride
in
this
city
that
we
take
care
of
all
in
a
period
today.
R
I'm
here
with
you
share
you
the
stories
of
individuals
that
have
told
me
that
I
worry
about
those
who
come
here,
because
they
don't
want
to
go
into
nursing
home.
They
want
to
stay
independent
and
they're
thankful
that
there's
such
a
response
time
that
can't
be
beaten
I'm
here
today
to
encourage
you
to
take
a
good
look
at
the
individuals
that
came
to
Edmisten
because
they
love
Evanston
and
because
they
feel
safe.
Thank
you.
A
S
Okay,
my
name
is
Ron
summers.
My
family's
been
here
in
the
5th
Ward
for
over
100
years,
so
there's
a
little
background
that
I
have
here,
I'm,
also
former
board
member
of
district
65,
so
I've
done,
but
just
before
and
I
view
the
budget
as
a
not
only
as
a
financial
document,
but
also
as
a
tangible
expression
of
what
we
value
and
what
we
value
less.
S
S
Clarity
leads
to
power
and
what
I
see
in
this
budget
a
lot
a
large
part
of
it
is
the
poor,
the
sick,
the
weak,
the
young,
the
old,
mentally
ill
they're
in
trouble
with
this
budget.
So
I'm
not
only
looking
at
the
budget,
but
you
know
we
look
at
you.
You
are
here
to
represent
us
one,
but
also
to
defend
people
who
cannot
defend
themselves.
That's
that's
part
of
our
job.
S
How
do
we
treat
the
the
least
of
our
children?
That's
you
know,
that's
a
Christian
thing:
how
do
you
treat
the
least
of
God's
children?
That's
it's
a
big
deal,
I,
look
at
the
the
jobs
program
with
mr.
Brown,
especially
all
the
jobs
and
the
dividing
of
that
program,
the
expungement
program.
We
have
some
ex-offenders
here
that
could
be
easily
well
of
easily
or
not,
but
could
get
their
sentences
expunged.
It's
a
big
deal.
That's
things!
Those
kinds
of
things
affect
people,
the
rest
of
their
lives,
the
mentally
ill,
the
the
certification
for
medical.
S
S
A
T
Nikki
tar
went
home,
sick
and
asked
me
to
read
this
for
her
on
her
behalf
on
behalf
of
Peggy.
Tar
disappointed
does
not
come
close
to
describing
my
reaction
to
the
continuation
of
discriminatory
practices
by
the
city
of
Evanston,
I
hold
the
city
manager,
City,
Council
and
mayor
responsible
for
these
practices.
T
Several
cases
filed
against
the
city
by
city
employees
were
publicized
in
which
the
city
was
found
guilty
of
discrimination
and
made
to
pay
settlements
our
tax
dollars
to
the
charging
parties.
Now
the
proposed
Evanston
budget
cuts
include
the
laying
off
firing
of
two
african-american
employees
in
the
streets
Department.
One
of
these
employees
filed
an
EEOC
complaint
against
the
city
approximately
two
years
ago,
and
the
other
allegedly
defended
an
african-american
female
city
employee
that
was
eventually
fired.
Does
the
city
comprehend
what
retaliation
is
another
possibility
of
discrimination?
T
T
Evanston
should
be
ashamed
of
itself,
but
bobbleheads,
whether
white,
black
brown,
yellow
or
read
do
not
usually
disagree.
Then
there
are
many
that
believe
that
the
proposal
to
demolish
harley
clark
is
another
example
of
bigotry
and
discrimination.
It
seems
that
there
are
Evan
stone
Ian's
that
would
rather
demolish
the
building
than
risk
having
non-white
non
rich
folks,
aka
the
Evanston
community,
patronize
harley
clark
and
contaminate
their
neighborhood.
T
That
was
Peggy.
Tar
and
I'd
like
to
just
make
a
short
statement.
I'd
like
to
add
a
comment
in
reference
to
the
department
station
in
the
fire
department
station
for
closing
City
Council
has
been
busy
approving
high-rise,
planned
developments,
marketing
to
Millennials,
as
well
as
to
seniors
these
numerous
developments.
Totaling
thousands
of
residents
will
include
high-risk
construction
on
the
near
sites,
as
sadly,
we
experienced
recently
those
risks.
The
needs
of
our
fire
department
are
going
to
drastically
increase
with
all
these
developments.
How
are
you
even
considering
the
closing
of
a
fire
station?
U
U
We
are
in
a
process
of
letting
funds
and
everything,
so
we
can
tax
me
and
the
rest
of
the
residents
and
even
you
one
of
the
things
that
looked
at
the
budget.
I
looked
at
that
simulated
thing
and
the
only
thing
I
could
see
was
okay
in
looking
at
robber
crown.
What
would
you
do
with
that?
First
of
all,
I
wouldn't
have
started
it.
I
was
in
a
deficit
in
2016,
maybe
2015
I
didn't
go
back
that
far.
Definitely
in
2017
going
into
a
debit
in
2018
there
were
several
projects
that
was
started
in
2017.
U
I
would
not
have
started
those
because
I'm
looking
at
my
books
and
my
books
is
saying:
I,
don't
have
the
money
and
stuff
to
do
that,
because
she's
going
to
have
to
some
people,
keep
asking
and
the
speaker
after
me
keep
us,
and
how
are
you
going
to
pay
for
this?
You
have
been
in.
If
you
read
closely,
you
have
to
read
every
do
line,
and
you
say
what
you're
going
to
do
in
one
document
that
you
have
in
there
and
it
talks
about
how
the
budget
and
stuff
is
going
to
be
taken
care.
U
U
So
what
happened
is
I
would
deficit
in
for
the
past
three
years
it
has
been
going
to
Cook
County,
that's
what
your
taxes
are
going
to
be
because
cooked
I
know
will
sell
bonds
to
get
money
for
you,
I
see
you
shaking
your
head,
but
if
that
is
wrong,
that's
what
was
printed
in
that
document.
So
in
truth
in
taxation,
then
you
need
to
explain
to
us
exactly
what
did
that
meant?
U
You
are
not
living
a
municipal
levy,
the
the
Jim
obligation
that
is
set
and
encountered
in
Cook
County
level,
what
they
will
charge
and
what
they
will
need
to
collect
from
us
to
pay
the
further
bonds
that
they
are
selling.
Now,
if
that's
wrong,
then
please,
you
have
to
explain
to
us
exactly
step
by
step.
How
is
this
going
to
happen
because
one
thing
that
is
sure
if
we
don't
pay
it,
then
we
go
into
bankruptcy,
venue
and
state
receivership.
U
V
Looking
at
the
whole
I
guess
budget
crisis
for
the
past
three
years.
It
appears
it's
been
around
for
a
while
too
three
years.
I,
don't
understand
that
why
we
can't
balance
the
budget
in
you
know
two
three
years
after
speaking
with
neighbors
and
friends,
we
realized
this
is
a
much
more
serious
issue
than
we
thought.
You're
pitting
neighbor
against
neighbor,
when
you're
proposed
to
cut
certain
programs
and
employees
cut
police
employees,
fire
department,
employees
and
close
a
fire
station
then
cut
some
of
the
programs
to
help
the
most
needy
and
underserved.
V
Yes,
you'll
say
four
point:
three
million
in
spending
cuts
an
increase
revenue
by
three
point:
three
million
in
taxes
and
feet
cuts.
It
is
our
opinion
that
there's
no
need
to
cut
any
programs
or
employees
and
there's
no
need
to
raise
taxes
and
fees.
You
just
voted
to
raise
our
debt
ceiling
by
37
million
dollars
and
your
spending
is
just
plain
out
of
control:
you're
borrowing
from
Peter
to
pay
Paul,
50
million
for
Robert
crown,
plus
thirty
five
million
to
cover
debt
service
and
new
projects.
V
Six
to
seven
million
for
Fountain
Square,
two
million
for
130
Chicago
Avenue
one
and
a
half
million
for
a
theater
project.
1.8
million
for
wage
increases
this
year
and
two
million
in
wage
increases
last
year
and
we
don't
have
a
balanced
budget.
These
six
items
alone
total
97
million
dollars,
and
there
are
many
more
expenses.
I
started
going
through
just
this
year,
the
last
10
months
with
30
to
40
new
vehicles
and
planning,
trees
and
landscaping,
and
anyhow.
V
V
By
the
way,
when
you
finish,
robert
crown
it'll
be
operating
at
a
loss,
what
are
the
operating
costs
of
the
new
Robert
crown?
How
many
new
employees
will
be
needed?
How
much
more
will
it
costs
and
utilities
and
maintenance?
And
how
are
we
paying
for
all
this?
Please
listen
to
your
residents
here
by
the
way,
I
agree
with
everything
that
everyone's
spoke
about
and
said
before
me.
V
We
are
letting
you
know
what
our
priorities
are.
We
can
and
should
remodel
both
harley
clark
and
robert
crown.
They
should
not
be
pitted
against
each
other.
Please
don't
tell
us.
The
problem
is
lack
of
finances
when
you're
spending
millions
on
new
projects.
You
need
to
make
some
serious
changes
now
without
cutting
programs
and
jabs,
and
without
raising
taxes
and
fees
just
cut
your
spending
that
I'm
with
projects
that
are
not
a
priority.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
W
W
You
know
we
budget
for
things
that
we
know
cost
that
we
know
are
coming
up
that
we
have
agreed.
We
spend
on
housing,
health
care,
education.
You
know
the
extras
that
we
need
to
do
and
then,
when
we
have
extra
expenses
we
either
get
extra
income
or
we
don't
do
it.
If
we
don't
have
the
money
for
it,
I'm
confused
as
to
why
the
city
isn't
doing
that
sort
of
budgeting,
it
seems
like
right
now,
the
city.
We
have
a
budget
that
the
citizens
have
agreed
on
that.
W
We
want
I
think
it's
completely
irresponsible
to
remove
programs
like
station
4,
like
the
Youth
Services
Division,
like
the
health
department
that
are
necessities
for
citizens
of
Evanston.
While
we
have
work
talking
about
recreation
and
arts,
and
you
know
things
that
we
we
don't
have
right
now,
we
don't
have
a
Harley
Clark
mansion
program.
W
We
need
to
start
somewhere
with
a
budget
says
this
is
our:
these
are
our
base
expenses.
These
are
the
things
that
we're
going
to
fund
and
the
other
things
come
with
extra
money
and
part
of
that
is.
We
have
different
kinds
of
income,
some
of
it
is
fungible,
and
some
of
it
is
steady.
Why
are
we
not
making
sure
that
the
steady
income
that
we
have
through
through
concrete
systems
goes
towards
the
things
that
we
have
to
pay
for,
like
public
safety
and
health
like
making
sure
that
everyone
has
access?
W
Why
is
it
that
we
aren't
putting
money
away
for
things
like
rabbit
crown
and
Harley
Clark,
and
you
know
I'm
with
alderman
homes
on
trees?
You
know
I
I,
don't
understand
so
I.
You
know,
I,
listen
to
the
budget
meeting
on
Monday
and
I
was
very
confused
when
aldermen
were
asking
questions
about
the
youth
division
program,
and
the
answer
was
something
like:
why
are
you
asking
questions
about
it?
W
Well,
if
I
were
an
alderman,
I
would
want
a
report
that
said
that
you
know
the
people
who
were
purported
to
be
experts
in
these
areas
were
a
part
of
the
decision.
You
know,
I
would
want
to
know,
I
feel
like
we're
making
these
decisions
based
on
our
emotional
reaction
to
whatever
it
is
and
not
on
facts,
and
that
is
a
big
problem.
W
A
X
Would
like
to
speak
on
the
public
on
the
budget
I'd
like
to
know
and
ask
you
all
if
your
lies
do.
X
That
key,
bunger
and
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
fire
department
I'd
like
to
know,
if
you
think
your
life
is
worth
twenty
dollars.
How
many
of
you
think
your
life
is
worth
twenty
dollars?
We
have
70,000
residents
in
the
city
of
Evanston.
If
every
resident
broke
it
down
and
paid
20
dollars,
we
would
be
able
to
fund
and
keep
station.
X
Four
open,
I
think
we
think
of
the
budget
as
being
this
great
big
picture,
but
when
you
break
it
down
$20,
if
you
asked
everybody
to
put
$20,
take
it
over
to
station
four
I
think
you'd
be
surprised
how
many
people
would
come
over
to
station
four
and
put
in
their
$20
to
keep
it
open.
It's
been
open
for
many
years.
We've
always
had
five
stations
I
worry
about.
X
We
call
it's
called
the
jump
system
with
the
fire
department
when
station
four
closes,
our
closest
one
will
be
either
Simpson
or
Madison,
and
it's
two
minutes
now
that
the
fire
station
can
get
to
my
house.
When
that
happens,
it
could
be
four
minutes.
My
grandson
could
be
dead.
By
that
time
he
has
paid
hide,
peanut
allergies.
We
keep
an
EpiPen,
but
that
doesn't
always
mean
that
he's
outside
in
the
EpiPen
is
immediately
in
our
dispose.
X
A
A
A
Right
so
that
that
hearing
is
adjourned
on
a
nine
to
zero
vote,
we're
now
going
to
move
into
the
second
hearing
of
the
day.
Excuse
me:
eight
eight
to
zero
alderman
Fleming
I
couldn't
be
here
today,
eight
to
zero,
we're
gonna
move
into
the
second
hearing
of
the
day,
which
is
the
truth
and
Taxation
hearing
for
the
2018
property
tax
levy
for
the
city
of
Evanston,
the
Evanston
City
Council
is
conducting
a
public
hearing
on
the
2018
property
tax
levy.
The
purpose
of
this
hearing
is
to
allow
for
public
input
on
the
proposed
levy.
A
G
Well,
first
I
will
talk
about
this
a
little
bit.
The
issue
is
the
council
that
for
some
years,
has
played
this
game
with
these
levees
and
pretended
they're
not
raising
the
property
taxes,
but
they
raise
the
other
levies
and
they've
done
this
consistently
and
then
said.
We
never
raised
the
property
tax,
but
that's
been
done
and
I
haven't
looked
at
each
one
of
these
levees
and
it's
this
effect,
but
some
are
going
up.
G
So
I
want
people
to
understand,
they
are
raising
taxes
and
even
if
they're,
not
on
the
property
tax,
so
to
speak,
or
the
general
fund
levy
they're
raised
to
basically
on
other
levies,
so
I
mean
that's
where
truth
in
taxation
lies,
but
I
think
what
keeps
bothering
me
about
is
the
whole
issue
of
truth.
The
truth
is,
you
know.
Basically,
a
truthful
budget
is
what
we
need
to
have,
and
we
just
do
not
have
that
and
you
can
levy
and
do
all
these
things.
G
But
if
there's
no
truth
to
what
we're
doing,
we
have
a
problem
and
that's
why
we're
in
this
huge
problem
and
I,
you
know
I,
think
people
are
I,
don't
understand
just
how
bad
it
is
because
I
keep
looking
at
it
and
realize
the
property
tax
here
is
gonna,
go
up
dramatically,
there's
no
way
around
it.
It's
gonna
go
between
30
and
50
percent
is
where
it's
gonna
go
because
of
the
mess
we
have
here
to
keep
it
in
some
kind
of
shape,
you're,
not
good.
That's
where
this
is
going.
G
That's
this
you're
gonna
be
levying
that
kind
of
property
tax
increase
which
a
$10,000
tax
bill
will
add,
$1,000,
probably
to
it
from
the
city
alone.
That's
what's
gonna
happen
because
the
place
is
in
a
mess,
and
some
of
this
you
know
I,
don't
know.
One
of
the
speakers
said:
there's
luxuries
of
trees
and
things
like
that.
Well,
there's
not
proper
analysis
done
here
of
anything
and
that's
the
problem.
I
asked
you
know:
I
sent
an
email
to
this
council
about
the
firefighters
and
basically,
whether
that
this
overtime
was
excessive
or
their
problems.
G
Well,
I
did
talk
to
somebody
in
the
fire
department
outside
here
and
they're,
telling
me
it's
not
a
problem
and
that
you
saw
my
email
and
that's
basically
it's
peanuts
to
keep
it
going.
So
we
don't
have
to
close
the
station.
The
station
goes
and
you
run
the
overtime
until
it's
done
until
you
can
fix
it
and
get
more
firefighters
back,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
fixed
for
several
years.
As
I
said,
it's
gonna
millions
to
fix
this
mess
and
the
same
with
the
police.
I
don't
get
I
haven't
gotten
an
answer.
G
We've
seen
anything
and
that
this
is
about
truth,
where's,
the
truth.
We're
down
ten
we've
had
thirteen
police
officers
for
shift
we're
down
to
ten.
So
what's
going
on
here
that
where's
the
truth
in
this,
you
know
I'd
like
to
know.
What's
going
on
where's
truth,
you
know
what
city
where's,
no
analysis,
it's
just
a
knee-jerk
reaction.
That's
unacceptable!
That's
the
problem
here!
I,
don't
see
analysis.
Are
we
in
trouble
because
we're
down
to
ten
officers
a
shift?
Do
we
have
a
problem
nobody's
telling
us
anything
so
and
what's
the
analysis
nothing's
been
done?
G
This
is
a
problem.
Everything
here
is
done
like
this.
It's
not
and
I
think
miss
Hayes
made
me
made
the
comment.
There's
no
analysis,
it's
not
about
luxuries.
Oh
you
going
you
stop
just
paying
for
the
elm-trees
to
inject
those
trees.
You'll
spend
millions
to
cut
them
down.
Millions
you'll
spend
double
what
you're
paying
there's
an
example,
so
that
many
of
these
things
that
the
analysis
has
to
be
done
properly
and
it
hasn't
been
done.
Mr.
G
Bob
quits
has
not
done
analysis
he's
just
balancing
a
budget
is
what
he's
doing
and
the
backs
of
everything
anything
he
wants
to
cut.
He
cuts.
Well,
that's
not
business,
that's
not,
and
I
and
I.
Think
the
other
speakers
are
mention.
The
same
thing.
I
keep
mentioning
it's
all
the
problems.
These
lawsuits
went
out
of
control.
Why
didn't
went
out
of
control?
It's
a
big
problem
and
that's
why
we
should
not
be
here
at
this
point.
Those
lawsuits
should
have
never
happened,
and
that's
why
we're
budget
is
hurt.
G
There's
been
excessive
spending
here
and
gifts
to
people,
basically
with
special
interests
that
have
cost
us
millions
and
all
these
problems
and
all
the
capital
projects.
Robert
crown,
is
a
big
problem.
Why
would
we
start
a
project
not
knowing
how
we're
gonna
pay
for
it?
That
was
really
what's
interesting.
You
didn't
know
the
budget
impact
of
robert
crown
on
this
city
and
you
started
a
project
and
now
that
projects
basically
a
10%
property
tax
increase.
Then
that's
a
problem.
So
what
management
is
that?
How
do
you
manage?
What
kind
of
management
do
we
have
here?
G
You
start
something
and
you
do
it
because
you
wanted
to
do
it.
You
said
oh
we'll
do
it
gives
Morrison
I
thought
was
ridiculous
too,
because
that
was
never
an
approval
in
through
the
Rec
Department
and
was
just
done.
Everything
here
has
been
just
done,
because
mr.
Bob
woods,
the
councilmember
wanted
to
do
something:
the
theater
on
Howard
Street,
it's
ridiculous,
we're
in
a
budget
crisis
a
year
ago,
and
you
approve
a
theater
for
1.5
million
dollars.
So
you
know
I'm
sorry.
This
crisis
is
because
of
this
mismanagement.
It's
not
because
of
these
programs.
G
You
look
it
up
there
on
the
general
fund
and
the
CFO
says
all
they're
tracking,
fine,
of
course,
they're
tracking,
fine,
they're,
not
out
of
control.
What's
out
of
control,
is
all
this
other
stuff
that
you
let
get
out
of
control
and
that's
why
we
have
a
problem
here,
so
we
can
think
about
it.
Two
more!
Thank
you
and
keep
smiling
Wally.
A
Y
The
word
truth:
it
keeps
getting
thrown
around
online.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is,
if
you
are
curious-
and
you
wanted
to
know
that
the
city
has
the
information
available
for
the
most
part
on
the
website.
If
you're
curious,
you
can
find
out
an
awful
lot
about
all
this
stuff.
Okay
and
it's
readily
available.
You
don't
have
to
do
a
FOIA.
You
can
look
things
up.
For
example,
if
we
go
back
10
years
ago,
our
income
tax
amount
was
about
that
we
receive
is
about
6.2
million
dollars.
Now
that's
budgeted
about
seven
okay.
Y
So
ten
years
ago
it's
only
going
up
from
six
point,
two
to
seven:
okay,
home
rule
sales
tax
about
ten
years
ago
it
was
around
six
million
dollars.
Now
it's
about
six
million
dollars.
Ten
years
ago
sales
tax
was
about
nine
million.
Now
it's
about
ten
property
tax.
Ten
years
ago.
Thirty,
four
point:
eight.
Now
twenty
eight
point:
three
okay.
Y
When
we
look
at
the
Police
and
Fire
pension
and
again
I,
don't
want
anybody
to
misconstrue
this,
but
that
was
nine
million
and
now
it's
18
million
dollars.
So
it's
not
super
complicated
to
figure
out
the
math
on
that.
Ten
years
later,
everything
costs
a
lot
more
ten
years
later,
we're
facing
a
situation
where
we
have
declining
revenues.
So
what
do
we
do?
We
have
to
make
choices
on
getting
other
income
and
revenue
options
available.
We
struggle
up
here
to
look
for
other
options
that
are
the
least
regressive
options
available
to
the
community.
Y
Okay,
that's
the
fact
of
the
matter.
That's
the
truth.
We
are
attempting
to
give
a
proper
and
appropriate
contribution
of
the
pensions
every
year
we
could
go
with
the
state
minimum
and
we
see
where
the
state
minimum
got
the
city
for
you
know,
decades
and
decades,
it's
a
massive
hole,
we're
trying
to
dig
out
of
that
hole,
one
shovelful
at
a
time
so
yeah.
Y
Is
it
three
million
dollars
more
than
the
state
minimum
right,
but
we
have
to
apply
ourselves
to
catch
up
on
these
things,
nobody's
making
anything
up,
nobody's
not
being
truthful,
nothing's,
not
transparent.
This
is
all
on
the
table
and
if
somebody
wanted
the
information
it's
readily
available,
so
I
just
wanted
that
to
be
clear
because
we're
talking
about
this
levy
and
to
hear
about
how
it's
being
hidden
or
anything
like
that,
that
is
just
simply
not
factual.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
A
B
A
A
H
A
B
Is
as
always,
during
election
time,
my
only
announcement
is
that
early
voting
is
going
on
now
downstairs
and
room
g300.
So
if
you're
in
the
audience-
and
you
live
in
suburban
Cook,
County
you're
likely,
if
you're
here,
you'll
likely
live
in
Evanston
I
just
popped
down
to
room
G
300
before
they
before
5
o'clock
and
you
can
vote
early
voting
is
also
available
tomorrow
on
Sunday
as
well
as
next
week,
9
a.m.
to
7
p.m.
throughout
the
weekday
Saturday
9:00
to
5:00
and
then
Sunday
10:00
to
4:00
next
week
as
well.
B
You
can
also
volunteer
with
the
clerk's
office.
We
have
folks
in
the
office
daily
making
phone
calls
and
knocking
on
doors.
In
fact,
today,
it
I
believe
it
twelve
o'clock
we'll
have
some
folks
down
in
the
office,
make
an
phone
call.
So
you
can
join
us
for
that
to
get
out
voters
in
the
lowest
turnout,
Ward's,
which
you're,
the
fifth,
eighth
and
second,
thank
you.
Okay,.
A
A
G
Right,
thank
you.
Let's
talk
about
something
else
and
that
you
know
I
think
the
issue
about
truth.
What
is
you
know?
I
think
it's
an
interesting
thing.
That's
it's
all
there!
Well,
you
know
I've
been
asking
about
the
water
department
for
five
years.
The
water
department
is
colluded
with
the
city
budget,
and
you
know
the
water
taken
northwestern,
as
I
recall,
was
18
million
dollars,
but
now
I
see
it
a
Sode
number
I'm,
the
overhead
of
25
million.
So
you
know
it's
a
colluded
budget.
G
The
the
water
department
should
have
been
operated
as
a
separate
business.
I've
asked
for
it
for
years.
Really
we
need
to
bring
somebody
in
here
that
can
run
it
and
do
it
and
look
at
it
because,
frankly,
you
know
this
thing
of
how
we're
getting
gold
we're
selling
water.
Well,
you
got
a
lawsuit
with
Skokie
we're
spending
money
on
legal
fees.
You
know
they
were
getting
tiny
amounts
of
money
from
Lincoln.
Would
they
have
seven
thousand
customers?
So
what
are
we
really
getting
here?
You
know
we
basically
but
nobody's
analyzed
that
budget.
G
That's
a
big
budget,
that's
being
misma,
use
the
money
and
then
mr.
babka,
which
is
raising
basically
flip-flopping
the
water
rates
to
sewer
rates
well
from
the
sewer
rates
to
the
water
race.
So
you
know
it's
it's
a
game.
It's
another
mess
and
you
know
it's
not
truthful
because
you're
not
operating
it
as
business.
You
must
let
myself
go.
Look
at
the
books.
You
can't
look
at
the
books
because
the
books
are
so
polluted.
G
You
don't
know
what's
going
on,
nobody
can
figure
it
out
and
no
alderman
can
give
me
an
intelligent
answer
of
what's
going
on
and
that's
a
problem
too
because
you're
the
decision-makers
to
know
what's
going
on
every
time
he
comes
up
here
and
asked
for
something
you
just
approve
it.
Well,
that's
fine!
You
don't
know
if
that
business
is
even
solvent
really,
but
it's
always
been
solvent
on
the
back
of
the
water.
Ratepayers
of
Evanston
had
to
pay
for
it,
and
the
mayor
did
promise
when
he
written
campaign
deed,
look
into
all
this
but
I.
G
You
know
I
think
you
wanted.
You
know
the
contracts,
but
you
know
it's
it's
a
mess.
So
the
truth
is
really
very
big
issue
in
the
public.
I
believe
is
losing
quite
a
bit
of
confidence
in
what's
going
on
here.
It's
not
me,
it's
not
me,
I'm,
not
I'm,
just
one
of
many
people,
the
numbers
of
FOIA
is
here
and
mr.
G
degreed
will
probably
tell
you
we're
in
a
couple
years
ago,
over
700
employees
for
the
year
at
this
point,
where
I
believe
we're
close
to
getting
close
to
1,200
in
October,
and
you
know,
a
lot
of
people
have
gone
to
the
Attorney
General
because
the
city's
not
giving
us
information
and
that
I've
made
my
first
inquiry
there,
but
I
know
many.
Other
people
have
been
there
to
ask
questions
of
what's
going
on
here.
So
a
lot
of
people
in
town
are
pretty
upset
with.
What's
going
on
so
I.
G
Think,
council
members
better
better,
hear
it
and
understand
these
things.
We've
got
to
be
truthful.
We've
got
to
have
the
right
analysis
and
I.
You
know,
frankly,
you
know
I
believe
the
mayor
is
a
successful
businessman.
I
assume
you
do
a
proper
analysis.
When
you
do
things,
there's
been
no
proper
analysis
here
done
many
many
things.
Never
do
we
get
any
good
numbers.
Never
do
we
get
anything
I'm.
Sorry,
the
numbers
are
not
good
they're,
just
basically
what
people
want.
G
T
A
V
Just
wanted
to
add
one
more
thing
in
looking
at
the
budget
you
hit,
you
know
that
you
have
so
much
money
coming
in.
So
if
you're
gonna
figure
out
a
budget,
you
need
to
know
how
much
money
is
going
out,
but
there's
a
deficit.
So
I
don't
understand
why
this
can't
be
balanced
and
if
you're
going
to
pass
a
Robert
crown
budget
of
50
million
dollars,
which
I
still
try
and
try
and
wrap
my
head
around.
Why
would
you
start
a
business
that
you
know
when
it's
finished
and
you
put
50
million
dollars
into
it?
V
V
I,
don't
understand
why
they
both
can't
be
done,
but
you
have
so
much
money
to
work
with
and
you
know
I
mean
that's
the
city.
I
guess
is
operating
as
business,
so
as
business
you
have
so
much
money
to
work
with,
and
this
is
how
much
money
you
have
to
spend.
So
why
can't
we
work
with
that
and
keep
all
the
residents
happy?
Thank.
B
B
A
That's
good
news,
Evanston
being
amongst
the
leaders
as
usual
and
voting,
so
that's
terrific,
okay,
seeing
no
one
else
has
signed
up
for
public
comment.
We're
now
going
to
move
on
to
the
special
orders
of
business
for
today,
I'd
like
to
ask
alderman
Rainey
as
the
senior
alderman.
If
you
would
take
us
through
excuse
me.
Z
A
Me
through
sp5
yeah,
if
you
could
take
us
through
SB
5
and
then,
unless
the
city,
manager
and
staff
to
do
SP
6,
and
we
will
need
to
vote
on
each
of
these
as
I
mentioned
earlier
today.
These
tax
levies,
of
which
the
SP
1
through
5,
are,
are
all
for
introduction.
Today
they
are
not
for
action
that
will
be
a
subsequent
meeting,
alder
minute
rainy
right.
A
And
I
believe
we
need
to
do
each
one
and
vote
individually
on
each
one.
I
was
told
earlier
today.
That's
that's
correct,
so
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna.
Do
we're
gonna,
do
five
votes
on
each
one,
so
I'll
need
you
to
put
it
up.
Motion
for
an
introduction.
Have
somebody
second
and
then
we'll
have
any
discussion.
If
anybody
wants
and
then
the
city
clerk
will
take
the
roll
Thank.
AA
AA
Well,
why
don't
I
just
read
sure
with
this,
this
levy?
Levies,
the
annual
property
tax
for
general
fund
operations,
Illinois
Municipal
retirement
fund,
Police
and
Fire
pension
funds
and
the
general
assistance
fund,
totaling,
30
million
seven
hundred
and
three
thousand
two
hundred
and
sixty
dollars?
The
previous
levy
was
thirty
million
one
hundred
one
thousand
two
hundred
and
$19.
This
is
for
introduction
in.
A
AA
2
was
ordinance
124,
Oh
18.
This
is
for
introduction.
The
ovens
in
library
fund,
2018
tax
levy,
the
board
requests,
introduction
of
tax
levy,
1
124
Oh
18
for
the
library
board's
action
on
October
17,
which
levies
the
annual
property
tax
with
the
Public
Library
in
the
amount
of
six
million
eight
hundred
eighty
seven
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
five
dollars.
This
is
for
introduction.
A
AA
AA
AA
A
Z
Mr.
mayor
members
of
council,
good
morning
we
have
two
final
staff
presentations
to
complete
the
initial
discussion
on
the
budget,
I'd
like
to
ask
Pat
fm
our
chief
equity
officer
to
come
up.
As
you
know,
we
have
been
committed
to
using
equity
lens
in
looking
at
the
budget.
This
will
be
the
second
year
that
we
have
done
this
I.
Think
last
year
was
a
general
overview.
This
year,
dr.
Hulme
has
been
able
to
give
a
closer
analysis
to
this
project
on
the
issues
of
equity,
so
she's
here
to
make
a
presentation.
Z
AB
AB
So,
in
looking
at
what
we
were
looking
at
in
terms
of
equity
are
my
challenge.
Our
job
my
charge
was
to
look
at
the
bucket
budget
from
an
equity
lens
process,
so
we
first
had
to
define
the
problem,
which
is
the
seven
point,
four
million
dollar
deficit-
that
we
have.
We
needed
an
answer
and
the
answer
for
that
was
seven
point:
four
million
dollar
balanced
budget.
So
how
do
we
get
to
that
with
the
neckli
lens?
And
it's
called
the
process
was
pre-op
priority-based
budgeting.
AB
The
goal
of
the
priority
based
budgeting
was
to
allow
city
staff
council
community
members
to
look
at
and
review
all
the
services
provided
by
the
city
prior
to
the
creation
of
the
budget,
and
we
wanted
to
do
that
with
an
equity
lens,
and
so
we
started
with
the
staff
internally
and
the
staff
generated
a
list
of
152
programs
that
were
scored
using
an
internal
metric
that
metric
applied
an
equity
lens,
because
we
four
of
the
possible
22
points
out
of
that
metric
were
based
on
an
equity
perspective.
We
also
had
the
public
survey.
AB
The
public
survey
likewise
looked
at
collecting
demographics.
What
we
found
in
the
midst
of
all
that
was
that
we
did
not
have
adequate
participation
from
a
significant
port
portion
of
our
community
black
and
brown
community,
and
so
we
set
out
to
find
an
additional
500
people,
black
and
brown
people
in
the
community-
that
we
could
speak
to
and
and
get
their
input
into
this
budget
process.
You
heard
from
the
advocates
for
equity
a
little
bit
earlier.
They
indeed
did
reach
507
507
additional
people
of
color.
They
are
the
demographics
for
you.
AB
They
were
all
African
American
Hispanic,
some
who
identify
his
pret
biracial.
They
went
to
they,
we
went
into
community
where
we
could
find
them.
We
went
to
laundromats
and
food
grocery
stores
and
local
Mexican
restaurants
and
to
community
picnics,
but
went
into
the
community
to
find
those
voices
and,
as
you
heard
today,
they
came
back
and
provided
us
with
that
information
which
we
now
have
before
us.
So
the
priority
based
budget
process
did
indeed
we
we
put
it
in
place.
We
went
through
it
and
here's
what
we
have
come
to
now.
AB
We
have
these
proposed
cuts
before
us,
and
the
city
wants
to
know
those
residents
want
to
know
even
I
want
to
know.
Are
these
equitable,
our
they
are?
The
are
the
the
proposed
cuts,
equitable
and
I.
Guess
I
would
have
to
pause
here
and
ask
the
question:
what
is
equity
and
I
asked
the
question.
As
someone
said
earlier,
we
have
thrown
that
word
around
a
lot
this
year
and
we
have
thrown
it
around
without
any
true
understanding,
collectively
as
a
body
about
what
equity
is.
So
as
we
go
through
each
of
these
programs
or
I.
AB
Look
at
the
Health
and
Human
Services,
Department
and
I
talked
to
I
interviewed
each
of
the
individual
directors
staff
members
who
are
impacted
by
this
as
well
as
community
members.
The
question
is:
what
is
equitable
Health
and
Human
Services?
The
reality
is:
is
its
dismantling
or
the
loss
of
a
Health
Department?
No
matter
how
we
look
at
it
is
going
to
be
devastating
for
the
community
and
for
individuals
in
part,
because
we
don't
understand
completely
the
impacts
that
it
will
have
on
the
community.
AB
It
is
global,
it
is
deep
and
so,
and
people
across
also
cares
in
economics
across
all
demographics.
People
will
be
affected
by
the
closure
of
the
health
department.
Now,
if
you
look
at
the
police
department,
I
can
tell
you
that
absolutely
yes,
the
impact
of
not
filling
those
positions
will
mean
that
we
cannot
advance
from
where
we
are
in
terms
of
being
able
to
give
even
more
timely
service
to
our
residents
in
order
to
provide
more
equitable
service
to
our
residents.
AB
The
the
proposed
budget
cuts
in
the
police
department
will
hurt
us,
as
you
have
heard,
the
closure
of
the
fire
department.
No
matter
what
you
decide,
no
matter,
what
way
you
go,
residents
are
gonna,
be
upset.
Persons
are
going
to
be
discouraged
because
the
question
becomes.
What
is
equity
I
have
heard
that
perhaps,
if
we
closed
at
a
fire
department
in
another
neighborhood
that
that
would
be
more
equitable,
what
I
would
say
to
you
is
because
we're
not
clear
about
what
equity
is.
AB
You
will
have
persons
from
each
of
those
wards
where
the
proposed
fire
department,
closures
are
recommended,
that
will
be
upset
will
be
hurt
and,
yes,
it
will
have
an
impact
on
our
fire
station
mental
health,
particularly
for
our
mental
health
community.
This
is
significant.
There
is
a
loss
of
significant
funding,
which
means
a
loss
of
cutting
services
to
this
current
5,000
resident
of
persons
that
are
currently
served
by
that.
And
so
again
you
look
at
approximately
5,000
people
plus
service
providers.
Who
would
tell
you
absolutely?
AB
This
is
inequitable
and
absolutely
this
would
be
devastating
for
our
community
cultural
arts.
Looked
at
their
report
talked
to
their
department
talked
to
their
arts
people
in
the
community.
For
them
they
understand.
They
understand
the
arts
to
be
very
equitable,
to
be
able
to
reach
all
walks
of
life.
They
understand
that
people
use
the
arts
for
healing
for
arts
therapy
that
the
sculptures
in
the
community
are
important
to
the
community
because
they
beautify
the
community.
So
if
you
ask
the
cultural
arts
department,
absolutely
this
would
be
devastating
for
the
community,
the
elimination
of
vital
records.
AB
You
have
several
people
who
are
concerned
about
that
for
good
reasons,
including
met
with
the
clerk,
the
african-american
clergy
in
the
fifth
Ward
last
week,
who
this
will
definitely
impact,
how
they're
able
to
provide
funeral
services
and
how
quickly
they're
able
to
do
that
because
of
lack
of
access
to
these
services.
So
in
looking
at
these
proposed
budget
cuts,
one
of
the
things
that
I
did
was
to
Crete
to
understand
that.
AB
To
look
at
these,
we
needed
a
formula
and
the
formula
is
that
we
need
the
data
we
take
that
with
the
community
engagement
from
those
who
would
be
net
most
negatively
impacted,
and
then
with
that
I'm.
Sorry,
let
me
go
back
with
that
then,
and
only
then
can
we
get
equity.
I
can
stand
here
and
show
you
as
your
chief
equity
officer.
AB
Equity
is
not
an
individual
with
an
answer
so
as
much
as
you
want
me
to
provide
you
with
a
single
answer,
I'm
going
to
propose
to
you
that
that
answer
is
not
held
in
my
hand
or
my
head,
so
we
went
to
then
collect
this
data
that
we
needed
to
decide.
When
I
made
my
report,
whether
I
could
report
to
you
that
this
was
equitable
nod
and
the
demographics
we.
AB
We
don't
have
any
real
data,
and
so
the
page
blank
is
intentional.
We
don't
have
any
data
to
capture
to
tell
us
whether
this
is
equitable
or
not.
We're
missing
community
voices
we're
missing
community
partners,
we
just
don't
know
there
is
not
enough
information.
So
the
information
that
we
have
is
based
on
staff
mile
cuts.
AB
And
so
the
next
step
in
was
to
engage
with
the
community
that
I
thought
was
missing,
therefore,
whose
voices
were
missing
in
this
started.
Talking
with
the
directors,
I
have
talked
with
each
director
using
a
tool
that
comes
out
of
Chicago,
the
racial
equity
assessment
tool,
I
said
that
will
teach
the
directors
and
what
I
can
tell
you
is
again
there's
simply
not
enough
information.
The
directors
do
not
have
enough
information
to
understand
collectively
with
each
other.
AB
What
would
it
mean
for
kids
in
the
neighborhood
who
may
or
may
not
now
access
that
building?
What
would
that
mean
to
the
police
department?
How
would
they
have
to
police
in
that
area
different?
So
what
we've
looked
at
in
each
of
these
in
our
process
when
we
talked
to
the
residents
residents,
are
there
they're
reacting?
If
someone
said
on
an
emotional
basis,
some
of
them
are
reacting
based
on
what
they
their
understanding
of
one
slice
of
a
very
big
pie,
and
and
because
of
that
again
you
have
these
silos
of
people.
AB
Then
we
have
City
Council
I,
looked
at
City
Council
goals.
The
goal
of
equity
in
our
City
Council
is
to
ensure
equity
in
all
of
our
services
operations
and
services.
Have
we
done
that
because
remember
our
goal
is
to
make
sure
that
there's
equity
in
all
of
our
services
and
programs
in
all
of
our
operations?
Have
we
adequately
done
that
and
how
do
we
measure
that?
AB
So
the
big
question
then
becomes?
Is
this
budget
equitable
and
I
would
tell
you
absolutely?
Yes,
I
would
tell
you
that
this
budget
is
absolutely
equitable,
because
we
defined
equity
as
the
process
of
defining
the
problem
of
understanding
the
answer
and
then
putting
us
a
process
in
place.
That
process
we
have
walked
through
it
and
we
have
come
up
with
a
proposed
budget
and
from
that
perspective
of
equity
with
this
budget
is
act
absolutely
equitable.
AB
On
the
other
hand,
I
would
tell
you
it
is
absolutely
not
equitable,
because
we
have
no
understanding
of
what
equity
is.
We,
as
a
city
have
not
engaged
in
adopted
and
equity
lens
from
the
top
down,
and
so
as
I
stand
here
week
after
week
and
as
I.
Listen
to
counsel
delivery.
I,
listen
to
my
colleagues
as
I.
Listen
to
residents.
Equity
is
defined
very
differently
by
all
of
us
and
therefore
no
matter
how
we
look
at
this
budget.
It
will
never
be
equitable
in
anybody's
mind
the
the
answer
to
all
of
that
is.
AB
AB
You
can
only
get
to
equity
through
a
process
and
I've
listened
to
this
community
over
the
last
year.
Consistently
an
issue
comes
up.
Harley
Clark,
that's
inequitable
well,
I
will
point
you
back
to
1970
when
there
were
some
real
challenges
with
poverty,
particularly
African
American
community
and
the
USD
n
decided
to
resolve
that
problem
by
giving
out
bricks
of
cheese
and
every
week
they
would
show
up
in
the
neighborhood
and
they
would
give
out
a
brick
of
cheese
and
that
would
satisfy
that
portion
of
the
community.
For
that
day.
AB
What
it
did
not
do
was
provide
a
solution
to
the
overall
problem
and
I'm
suggesting
to
you
that
if
we
want
to
talk
about
and
get
to
equity
in
our
budgeting
and
putting
our
city
services
programs,
we
must
stand
back
and
stop
handing
out
bricks
of
cheese.
And
if
I
can
point
this
out
to
you,
what
I'll
say
is
this:
is
that
consistently
we
hand
out
these
bricks
of
cheese,
and
we
don't
understand
that
they
actually
create
more
issues
in
that
community
than
if
we
had
not
handed
out
the
brick
of
cheese?
AB
When
you
can
satisfy
someone
in
the
moment,
then
they
go
away.
But
as
you
recognize,
our
community
keeps
coming
back
over
and
over
again,
I
can
tell
you
that
to
have
persons,
stand
at
the
podium
and
say
that
the
the
african-american
community
or
black
staff
members
are
expected
to
bow
and
shuffle
it's
an
insult
to
that
community,
because
you
have
not
engaged
that
community.
The
key
here
is
that
we
must
begin
to
engage
our
community
and
when
I
say
that
in
this
process,
what
I
would
say
is
who
was
the
most?
AB
Who
was
gonna,
be
most
negatively
impacted.
It
starts
not
what
you
think
it
does,
but
with
our
directors.
How
is
this
going
to
most
tively
impact,
our
directors
and
the
decisions
they
have
to
make,
and
then
they
would
begin
to
understand
they
have
to
fear
who's
going
to
most
be
most
negatively
impacted
by
them.
These
decisions
cannot
be
made
on
an
individual
basis;
rather,
they
must
be
made
in
collective
collaboration
with
one
another.
AB
I
would
challenge
you
as
the
City
Council,
to
understand
that
that
the
question
of
equity
is
a
process
that
we
must
be
serious
about
this
year
about
getting
in
place
and
working
from
that
process.
The
final
thing
I'll
say
about
that
is
that
when
we
don't
have
a
process-
and
we
know
I'm-
not
sure
how
you
would
define
the
most
vulnerable
population,
but
in
the
city
of
Evanston,
I
can
tell
you
that
one
of
our
most
vulnerable
populations
is
our
african-american
population,
that's
one
of
our
most
vulnerable
and
historically
deepest.
AB
However,
what
I'll
say
to
you
is
when
we,
when
we
address
the
issues
of
that
community
one
case
at
a
time
we
we.
We
continue
to
perpetuate
the
inequities
in
that
community
when
we
allow
ourselves
to
racialize
every
incident
that
comes
before
us.
When
we
respond
to
an
issue
and
we
vote
based
on
that's
black
and
I,
don't
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
to
upset
the
applecart
anymore.
What
we're
doing
is
a
disservice
to
the
entirety
of
the
community.
AB
I
would
suggest
to
you
that
we
have
to
get
serious
about
talking
about
the
issues
of
inequity.
We
have
to
get
serious
about
addressing
the
issues
of
race.
Those
will
allow
us
to
address
the
issues
of
all
other
inequities
in
our
community.
But
let
me
leave
you
with
equity
is
a
process.
It
is
not
an
answer,
any
questions.
Z
I'll
ask
a
question
now
right.
So
what
do
we
do
better
in
process?
I
mean
we
we
reach
out
to
people
as
we
make
information
available,
we
engage
people,
we
we
go
to
them
or
they
are
I.
Think
the
the
work
that
we
did
in
response
to
the
City
Council's
concerned
on
the
survey
where
you
task
community
members
to
go
out
into
the
community
I
think
those
are
all
part
of
process
right.
So
what
what
more
can
we
do
it?
Z
This
budget
will
ultimately
get
adopted
in
whatever
form
it
is,
and
we
move
on
continue
as
a
as
a
city.
What
should
we
be
thinking
about
what
what
what
other
processes
so
that,
when
we're
here,
twelve
months
from
now,
the
the
answer
of
the
report
that
you
give
is
is
different.
So
if
you
could
talk
about
process
and
I,
think
you
also
raise
the
points
of
data
yeah.
You
know
what
else
do
we
need
to
be
doing
as
a
city
in
the
coming
years
so
that
we
have
that
data
as
well?
Okay,.
AB
Thank
you
very
good
question
and
we
have
myself
in
equity,
empowerment,
Commission
have
been
addressing
this
issue.
We
came
before
the
Rules,
Committee
I
think
it
was
last
month
and
we
are
currently
furiously
hardly
working
on
an
equity
framework
that
answers
all
of
what
I
just
put
before
you,
and
so
once
this
equity
framework
comes
out
and
we're
fighting
to
get
it
out,
get
to
the
City
Council
by
the
December
20th
meeting.
Where
can
be
voted
on
and
we
get
that
in
place.
AB
That
will
help
a
tremendous
amount
because
number
one
we
will
first
start
with
setting
equity
goals.
We
will
we
will
set.
We
will
start
with
a
tool
that
shows
us
how
to
adequately
engage
the
community.
We
are
defining
the
data
now
in
the
Commission.
What
data
is
missing?
How
do
we
capture
that?
Where
can
we
capture
it?
So
we're
already
working
on
that?
If
you
will
work
with
us,
which
you
have
been
very
supportive
to
get
that
tool
in
place,
I
will
I
will
tell
you
it's
not
self-serving.
AB
If
you
want
the
equity
office
of
equity
empowerment
to
to
be
able
to
have
any
credibility,
to
be
able
to
do
ethically
do
the
work
we
have
to
fund
the
office.
One
of
my
colleagues
at
the
ICM
a
conference
last
month
said
budget
is
the
moral
compass
we
we
cannot
adequately.
We
don't
have
a
common
language
of
shared
language
because
we
don't
have
a
place.
We
don't
have
a
mechanism
through
which
to
train
all
of
our
staff
so
that
we
all
have
the
common
language.
AB
We
need
to
get
city
council
in
the
in
the
room
and
on
the
on
board
with
us
and
understand
what
we're
trying
to
do
so
that
as
right
now,
we
need
that
stopgap
measure.
You
ask
well
either
stuff
what
we
need
and
stopgap
measure
I
need.
I
need
you
all
I
need
City
Council,
not
to
respond.
When
someone
comes
up
and
says:
well,
it's
because
I'm
black
that
they
did
this
it
might
be,
but
let's
collect
the
data
and
what
I'm
telling
you
is.
These
issues
are
real.
AB
These
inequities
are
real
and
we
can
capture
them
in
ways
that
everybody
can
understand,
as
opposed
to
responding
to
a
black
woman
like
myself,
who's
sitting
there
going.
This
is
not
fair
vote
for
me
because
I'm,
black
and
you're
uncomfortable
as
a
white
person
kind
of
going
against
me,
but
you
want
some
more
information
and
you
should
have
that
more
information.
So
we
have
to
learn
collectively
as
a
body
in
this
body
how
not
to
respond
so
immediately
to
those
emotional
issues
that
come
to
the
surface,
but
rather
we
follow.
AB
AC
Really,
given
me
a
lot
to
think
about
dr.
Aafia
and
right
now,
my
comments
are
just
very
surfaced
because
I'm
gonna
reflect
on
this.
Over
the
weekend,
you
talked
about
data
and
I.
Think
that
that's
very
important
and
I'd
asked
Erika
and
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
look
at
the
cuts
being
made
to
our
Public
Health
Department.
AC
Look
at
the
percentage
of
cuts
that
are
being
made
to
our
fire
department,
as
well
as
our
parks
and
recs
as
it
relates
to
you
know
the
youth
and
young
adult
program
and
I
guess
the
data
that
I'm
looking
at
is
I
want
to
know
like
department-wide,
like
who's
who's
being
cut
the
most
and
then
I
want
to
be
able
to
look
for
my
perspective
as
a
black
male
in
the
community
who
serves
on
the
council.
How
is
that
impacting
the
most
vulnerable
community?
So
that's
a
good
question.
AC
Yeah
we've
looked
at
the
revenues
but
I.
If
it's
there,
if
I
missed
it.
Please
point
it
to
me
so
I
can
compare
the
revenues
to
to
the
cuts.
That
would
be
helpful.
The
other
question
did
you
made
comment
on
is
as
the
process
and
throughout
these
budget
memos.
It's
been
clear
to
me
that
some
directors
weigh
in
on
the
budget
cuts
and
other
cuts
are
coming
from.
AC
You
know
the
city
manager,
so
I
would
you
know
I,
don't
know
how
we
get
there,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
which
directors
had
feedback
and
which
directors
were
told
about
these
cuts,
and
that's
that's
something.
That's
important
I
also
think
in
in-
and
this
is
just
my
reflection,
based
on
on
the
comments
from
our
community
and
I-
think
that
those
it's
important
that
we
pay
attention
to
that
I
am
curious
to
know
more
about
our
legal
expenses.
AC
Someone
said
looking
looking
forward
and
our
legal
expenses
are
high
and
I
think
if
we
continue
down
that
course,
as
a
council,
we
will
continue
to
you
know,
repeat
our
deficit.
I
also
think.
As
a
council,
we
need
to
take
a
very
close
look
at
our
capital
expenses
and
I
understand
the
price
of
material
gets
more,
so
the
more
that
we
delay
any
capital
improvement,
there's
going
to
be
a
downstream
effect,
but
I
have
to
weigh
that
against.
AC
You
know
the
people
that
we're
looking
to
serve
so
I
hope
that,
as
a
council,
we
can
take
a
very
deep
look
and
figure
out
where,
in
our
capital
expenses,
we
may
be
able
to
delay
some
things
and
I
don't
mean
cancel,
I,
say
delay
and
the
reason
that
I
say
that
is
there's
some
things
again.
The
gentleman
who
mentioned
we
don't
look
forward
that
we
know
we
can't
Bank
on
them,
but
we
know
that
there
are
four
developments
that
are
going
to
be
added
over
the
next
year.
AC
We
know
that
we're
going
to
see
an
increase
in
taxes
in
permit
fees
from
those
develop
instead
of
past.
We
know
that
we
have
a
library
lot,
that's
most
likely
going
to
be
sold
over
the
next
year,
we're
going
to
have
an
infusion
of
four
million
dollars.
We
can't
put
that
in
the
budget
this
year,
but
again,
if
we're
looking
forward,
we
can
anticipate
that
the
same
way
we
anticipate
our
permitting
fees
and
other
revenue
and
then
the
other
thing
that
is
not
popular
with
our
community
but
I.
AC
AC
AB
Welcome
and
what
I
want
what
I
will
add
is
that
we
have
to
look
systemically
and
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
I've
had
in
this
position
and
and
every
other
person
in
my
position
across
the
world.
It
has
the
same
problem,
and
that
is,
we
want
to
address
individual,
say
individual
racism
if
we
and
if
we
address
individual
races
and
we
will
never
move
anywhere,
I
mean
I'll
just
be
constantly
putting
out
fires
because
they're
a
racist
everywhere.
Let's
just
agree
to
that
right,
and
so
the
idea
is
to
look
at
it
systemically.
AB
AD
AB
Know
the
greatest
impact
obviously
is
to
our
community
to
our
residents,
and
that's
isn't
that
who
we're
here
to
serve
as
our
residents.
So
the
greatest
impact
is
to
the
residents.
What
I
mean
is
when
we
have
to
begin
somewhere
to
figure
out
who's
gonna
be
most
negatively
impacted.
So
when
we
put
off
the
priority
based
budgeting
survey,
we
just
put
it
out
there
lots
of
concerns
when
we
put
it
out
there.
AB
The
results
told
us
we're
not
hearing
from
our
black
and
brown
communities,
and
so
we
went
to
listen
to
the
black
and
brown
kameez
and
we
got
there.
We
realized
we're
still
missing
other
populations,
we're
not
hitting
seniors
adequately.
So
if
you
start
at
the
director
level
and
understand
how
they
will
be
most
negatively
impacted
and
they
can
understand
how
their
staffs
will
be
else-
seen
and
impacted,
then
they
can
reach
further
down
in
the
community
and
say
our
assessment
right.
AB
It
appears
to
us
that
the
closing
of
fire
station
4
will
will
certainly
impact
this
community
in
a
way
in
the
in
the
following
ways.
Right
now,
what
we're
hearing
is.
The
closure
is
going
to
impact
a
lot
of
people,
but
we
don't
have
any
data
to
talk
about
who
and
how
does
it
really
affect
the
community?
What
what?
What
really
will
the
numbers
look
like?
What
can
we
really
anticipate
from
this,
and
so
it's
that
data
that
that
we're
missing
that
a
lot
that
that
leaves
you
with
what
I've?
AB
AB
So
part
of
it
we
should
not
be
too
hard
on
ourselves.
We
engaged
in
this
work.
We
decided
to
intentionally
engage
in
this
work
of
being
equitable
only
a
year
and
a
half
ago.
The
reason
that
the
city
decided
to
do
that
was
because
they
recognized
that
there
were
some
inequities
that
they
were
dealing
with
and
some
problems
and
challenges.
AB
So
now
what
we
have
to
do
what's
what's
preventing,
that
is,
we
just
don't
have
the
systems
in
place
yet
to
do
it
and
and
I'm
urging
us
when
we
came
before
you
that
the
Commission
came
before
you.
What
we're
urging
you
to
do
is
adopt
this
system
that
we're
putting
in
place.
It
will
help
us.
It
will
show
us
where
we're
missing
the
data,
and
so
when
you
look
at
across
the
board
how
we
collect
data,
we
don't
collect
it
consistently.
So
so
in
our
boards
and
commissions,
we
now
collect
demographics.
AB
AD
AB
Sure
it's
a
it's
an
equity
framework
tool.
It's
seven
steps,
it's
actual
document
that
you
can
sit
down
with,
and
okay,
we're
looking
at
Harley
Clark
and
you
put
in
a
Harley
Clark
all
right,
who's
gonna
be
know
mostly
who's,
potentially
gonna,
be
most
negatively
impacted
by
Harley
Clark.
Now,
I've
heard
across
the
board
time
and
time
again
that
this
is
a
plot
to
keep.
You
know
black
people
off
of
the
beaches.
That
may
or
may
not
be
true.
AB
So
the
first
thing
we
need
to
do,
then,
is
we
need
to
talk
to
the
to
the
to
the
african-american
of
black
community.
The
second
thing
we
need
to
do
is
talk
to
those
who
never
use
Harley
Clark
I
mean
so
it
gives
us
so
now
that
community
engagement
piece
is
step
number
two:
it's
in
it's
community
engagement
in
ways
that
we're
not
accustomed
to
doing
community
engagement,
hence
a
tool.
So
when
we
looked
at
the
budget-
and
we
recognized
we're
missing
black
and
brown
population,
the
tool
said
go
out,
go
to
them.
AB
AB
So
even
city
council
will
get
that
packet
say:
here's
how
we
engage
the
community
and
the
comedian
that,
in
the
first
step
of
the
budget,
would
be
your
directors,
here's
how
we
engage
them,
here's
what
they
said
and
here's
how
their
that
input
shaped
our
recommendation,
so
you'll
have
all
of
that
before
you
and
you
won't
be
scrambling
for
information.
Now,
don't
get
me
wrong,
it's
not
going
to
happen
overnight,
but
that
that's
the
process
and
then
there's
seven
additional
steps
and
the
last
one
is
evaluation.
AB
So
we
get
back
here
to
the
budget
year
and
we
can
see.
Did
we
accomplish
what
we
said
we
were
gonna
accomplish
and
then
based
on
that
we
would
leave
budget,
but
the
proposed
budget
or
the
budget
adoption
would
leave
us
with
a
set
of
equity
goals
for
each
department
and
they
would
go
about
trying
to
now
meet
those
equity
goals
going
into
the
next
year.
Starting
with
that
process
all
over
again
thank.
AD
You
so
I.
This
is
the
first
I'm
learning
that
we
didn't
know
what
equity
is
so
I
want
to
say
what
it
is
for
me,
and
my
role
is
fifth
Ward
Alderman,
that
it
is
the
residents
of
the
fifth
Ward
and
the
neighbors
in
the
community
having
the
same
quality
of
life
as
all
of
Evanston,
and
that
means
access
to
jobs,
access
to
services
opportunity
to
own
homes
in
Evanston.
So
those
are
some
priorities
for
me.
So
I
would
like
to
get
that
out
there
I
didn't
know.
We
were
still
trying
to
figure
it
out.
AC
You,
mr.
mayor
and
I
guess
you
know
what
I
hear
is
a
consistent
message
that
when
we
first
started,
this
I
was
locked
into
individuals.
So
I
was
always
thinking
about
the
individuals
who
are
being
affected
by
our
lack
of
services
and
I.
Think
you've
said
this
earlier
in
your
presentations
that
we
need
to
evaluate
how
we
are
delivering
our
services
to
the
community.
So
to
your
point,
ultimately
Simmons.
AC
How
are
we
delivering
our
service,
whether
it's
a
fifth
Ward
resident
I
mean
I,
guess
I
would
use
black
white
whatever
the
case
may
be,
because
our
services
are
so
so
different.
So
I
do
understand
how
we
need
to
look
at
the
directors
to
get
that
type
of
input
and
engagement
and
in
data
so
I
mean
if
our
services
range
from
our
vital.
You
know
for
our
safety
right
and
then
below
that
I
would
say
you
know
our
vital
interventions
in
terms
of
our
mental
health
services
and
services
provided
by
the
Health
Department.
S
AB
AB
But
how
are
we
not
serving
them
so
we're
getting
we're
able
to
cover
them
here,
but
we
were
really
not
doing
a
good
job
here
and
so
here's
what
we
need
to
invest
more
money
this
year
or
more
time
and
staff
this
year
is,
and
so
we
just
have
to
look
at
those
systems
that
tell
us
specifically
how
to
deal
with
those
issues
as
opposed
to
by
well.
You
know
it's
it's
it's
the
black
brown
community,
and
so
anything
that
comes
up.
AB
We
should
give
to
the
black
and
brown
community
know
we
want
to
be
sure
that
we're
targeting
an
adequately.
Yes,
we
do
need.
This
is,
and
we
happen,
that's
why
we
prioritize
the
racial
race.
Racial
equity
is
because
we
have
to
recognize
that
that
is
by
far
the
overarching
community.
That's
most
deeply
impacted
and
we
have
to
pay
special
attention
to
it.
AE
Thank
you
doctor
afternoon,
I
think
all
mine,
Braithwaite
and
alderman
Simmons,
who
summons,
have
asked
some
of
my
questions.
So
in
terms
of
the
collection
of
data,
a
number
of
us
sit
on
the
CDBG,
and
so
when
we,
when
we
are
determining
how
to
allocate
our
grant
money,
a
lot
of
what
we
look
at
during
that
process
is
the
data
that
the
organization's
present
to
us.
So
are
we
and
which
is
very,
very
helpful
because
otherwise,
I
think
we'd
be
lost,
I
mean
who,
who
is
who
deserves
more?
AE
They
all
deserve
more
than
we
have
so
with
respect
to
our.
So
our
our
departments,
then
from
what
what
I'm
hearing
you're
saying
is,
are
not
tracking
in
the
same
way,
and
it
may
actually
not
provide
direct
services
in
the
same
way
that
you
could
measure
so
I
think
each
of
our
departments
that
are
going
to
have
to
figure
out
what's
the
data
that
they
could
gather
and
how
do
they
do
that
and
so
that
they
can
figure
out?
What
are
where
are
their
services
going
or
and
then
I
guess?
AE
AE
Who
cut,
who
needs
who
comes
in
and
gets
the
documents
that
the
vital
services
provides
or
or
what
are
the
uses
in
the
community?
I
mean
I
appreciate
hearing
what
the
what
the
community
has
to
say
about
that,
but
you're
right,
we
can't
just
depend
on
anecdote
and
to
make
these
decisions
so
I
think
that's.
My
question
are
so,
as
are
these
departments
not
able
to
keep
track
of
what
the
services
are,
that
they
provide?
Okay,.
AB
What's
happened
is,
of
course,
each
department
is
tracking
their
needs
their
what
their
services
are,
who
they
serve,
how
they
serve
them.
Their
Trekkie
met
from
a
more
global
standpoint
as
we're
coming
trying
to
put
this
equity
lens
on
it.
I
need
broader
data.
I
need
to
know
how
that
data
intersects
with
some
data
from
another
department.
How
have
we
mutually
or
collaboratively
considered
this
to
recognize
over?
This
is
great
data,
but
but
there's
more
that
we
need
to
glean
out
and
tease
out
of
this.
AB
So
it's
it's
more,
it's
more
someone
saying
that
can
taking
a
global,
look
and
saying
well,
this
is
great
for
your
department.
You
need
this,
you
need
this.
You
all
got
that
right,
but
what
do
we
need
to
then
come
back
to
the
council
and
give
them
big
picture,
and
so
yes,
it's
a
I
mean
some
of
what
we're
just
realizing
I
mean
yeah
a
lot
of
it,
we're
just
realizing,
but
a
lot
of
it
were
just
realize,
because
we've
just
gotten
into
this
work.
Okay,.
AE
So
my
last
question
I
think
it's
probably
the
hardest
one,
because
I
have
many
more
questions
is
for
this
budget,
because
this
is-
and
this
is
one
of
the
most
difficult
I've
ever
had
to
consider
and
vote
on.
What
is?
Is
there
any
data?
We
can
look
at
now
for
some
of
these
things.
That
would
help
us
make
these
difficult
decisions.
AB
You
could
so
let
me
tell
you
yes,
the
data
that
has
come
out
of
each
of
the
departments.
There's
there
in
the
newspaper
there,
the
department,
directors
and
budget
memos
I
would
that's
that's
the
information
that
we
have
to
work
with
and
and
based
on
that
information.
That's
all
that
we
have
and
we
have
to
work
with
that.
AB
I
also
consider
the
fact
that
that
the
budget
team
and
the
and
the
city
manager
have
made
these
recommendations
because
they
have
some
information,
more
information
than
I
do
and
so
in
part,
I
have
to
kind
of
look
at
what
they've
recommended
simply
because
they're,
the
ones
that
have
the
most
wisdom.
Expertise
in
this
you
know,
I
can
tell
you
broadly.
If
you
look
at
the
Health
Department
I
will
tell
you
if
you
asked
me
to
make
a
recommendation.
AB
The
Health
Department
should
be
the
number
one
thing
we
consider
because
period
it
cuts
across
everybody
and
everything
it's
going
it
it's
gonna
affect
us
the
most
broadly,
but
does
it
dig
into
issues
of
particular
communities?
Well
and
the
Health
Department
does,
but
does
that
particularly
deal
with
issues
that
we
might
need
to
consider
in
the
future?
I
don't
know
because
there's
just
simply
not
there.
Okay.
Z
I
cannot
tell
you
how
my
city
manager,
heart
is
just
jumping
for
joy
to
hear
the
City
Council
of
Evanston
Illinois
talk
about
data.
We
we
came
to
you
a
month
or
two
ago,
ms/ms
letter
the
Community
Development
Director
sort
of
talking
about
these
frameworks
with
the
star
Community
Program
love
the
star
communities.
Don't
love
our
communities,
that's
the
kind
of
framework
we
need.
What
are
we
here?
What
is
the
business
of
the
community
johanna,
the
star
evaluations,
400-600
data
points,
400
data
points,
so
we
have
been
collecting
for
the
last
four
years.
Z
400
pieces
of
data
that
help
us
understand
how
we
deliver
services
for
the
star,
Community,
Program,
and
so
that's
a
pretty
broad
area.
Equity
and
empowerment
is
one
of
the
the
nine
areas
of
the
star
Community
Program.
So
we
have
that
data
in
your
budget
and
the
budget
every
year
Kate.
How
many
performance
measures
are
there
50
to
100,
which,
when
I
got
here,
we're
more
like
four
or
five
hundred?
Z
You
know
the
performance
data
that
we
have
in
the
budget
perhaps
is
not
as
meaningful
as
it
once
was
for
a
different
view
of
the
community,
but
we
still
have
it
and
we
still
collect
it.
So
we
have
that
data.
We
have
the
star
communities
data
we
are
now
going
to
have
the
zequinha
framework
to
apply
I
mean
it's
the
larger
now
question.
Well,
there's
no
shortage
of
data
I
think
it's
a
matter
of.
Z
What's
the
most
important
data,
how
what
kind
of
lens
do
you
want
to
see
the
data
through
and
then,
ultimately,
how
does
day
to
drive
the
accomplishment
of
the
city's
goals?
How
does
day
to
drive
again
the
big
picture
versus
what
happens
here
and
in
city
council
chambers
around
America?
One
person
comes
with
one
particular
issue:
that's
worth
$25,000.
How
does
that
then
solve
your
budget?
Z
And
so
if
the
council
is
willing,
once
we
move
through
this
budget
process
to
have
more
serious
discussions
on
how
we
use
data
to
accomplish
the
broad
goals
of
a
municipal
government?
Well,
I
won't
say
everything
falls
into
place,
but
I
think
the
pieces
start
to
come
together
and
I.
Think
it
has
been
the
difficulty
again
of
communities
all
over
America
of
dealing
with.
What's
in
front
of
you
directly
versus
that
larger
picture,
what
we
want
to
be
as
a
community,
so
the
pieces
are
there.
You
have
very
challenge
of
staff.
Z
Pat
and
I
did
not
talk
about
this
presentation.
I
basically
told
her
say
what
you
want.
So
this
observation
about
the
departments
is
a
really
fascinating
one:
your
department
directors,
they
run
the
railroad
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week.
They
have
to
deal
with
the
delivery
of
services
every
day
and,
quite
honestly,
don't
always
have
the
luxury
to
take
that
step
back
because
they're
busy
delivering
those
services
to
the
best
of
their
ability
that
the
fire
department
is,
as
you
heard
earlier,
doing,
what
they
need
to
do.
Z
Please
all
the
way
down
the
line.
They
don't
have
that
luxury
and
so
on.
We
all
go
to
them.
Pat
and
I
and
Johanna
go
and
say:
there's
the
bigger
picture.
They
of
course
never
disagree.
They
simply
ask
well.
When
do
we
spend
the
time?
How
do
we?
What
resources
do
we
allocate
that
we
don't
currently
allocate
to
be
more
mindful
about
these
measures,
and
so,
if
the
City
Council
through
this
process
says
yes,
we
need
to
do
better
and
we
need
to
do
more.
We're
prepared
to
do
better
and
more.
Z
There
are
time
and
resource
issues
to
do
that,
but
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
budget
challenges
and,
if
we're
clear
as
a
community,
these
are
our
priorities.
It
will
make
things
easier
and
we'll
be
able
to
point
to
what
are
we
trying
to
accomplish
in
very
specific
terms,
so
we're
committed
as
a
staff
again
once
the
dust
settles
here
to
really
engage
you
to
whatever
level
this?
The
City
Council
wishes
to
be
engaged
great.
J
AA
You
have
you
looked
at
the
way,
we're
going
to
raise
the
revenue
we're
going
to
raise
through
the
equity
lens,
and
by
that
I
mean
the
council
made
a
decision
not
to
raise
the
property
tax.
So
instead,
what
we're
doing
is
were
some
people
call
it
nickel
and
diming
I'm
thinking
it's
more
like
dollar
dollar.
AB
And
I
will
say
that,
while
he's
actually
right
and
I
want
to
tell
you
how
much
that's
appreciated,
and
that
is
that
he
has
had
zero
input
into
what
I
have
found.
He
has
given
me
free
rein
and
said
you
know
short
of
calling
me
out
of
my
name.
You
tell
them
what
you
need
to
tell
them.
I
have
looked
very
much
at
that.
My
concern
is
by,
for
example,
with
the
with
the
proposed
cuts
to
the
Health
Department.
AB
What
we
don't
recognize
is
that,
if
that
goes
through
as
proposed,
then
we're
gonna
have
to
pay
Cook
County
some
money
which
is
going
to
cause
a
fee
for
some
residents
and
that
that's
a
fee
that
we
have
not
been
clear
or
transparent
about,
perhaps
because
we
ourselves
did
not
know
that
and
when
you
look
at
sending
services
doing
victims
advocate
services
through
the,
why
that's
a
cut
and
that
will
save
us
some
money,
but
then
how
does
that
get
into
the
hands?
How
does
that
benefit?
AB
The
residents
I
think
you're,
better
and
I
need
police
chief.
Anything
to
walk
me
out
after
I
say
this,
but
honestly
I
think
the
the
overall
raising
the
tax
is
is
a
much
more
equitable
way
to
handle
that
and
then
to
figure
out
how
to
help
residents
deal
with
that
raise.
But
in
terms
of
our
in
terms
of
this
community,
the
reality
is
as
I
understand
it.
There
is
a
significant
deficit.
AB
We
have
to
cover
that
deficit
and-
and
it
seems
to
be
that
this
broad-
let's
raise
this
and
then
move
on
and
figure
out
how
to
go
on
from
this
is
the
most
equitable
way,
because
right
now,
the
way
it's
going
to
turn
out.
If,
with
the
proposed
budget,
we're
just
not
going
to
know
that
the
impact
on
residents
and
and
so
they're
going
to
be
greatly
more
greatly
impacted
than
we
anticipate.
And
probably
then
we
anticipate
thank.
A
Don't
I
just
want
to
explore
that
a
little
more
I
mean
if
we
increase
that
if
the
council
decides
to
increase
the
city
property
tax,
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
most
impacted
by
that
are
gonna,
be
lower-income
residents,
whether
you're
a
renter,
your
rents
going
to
go
up,
or
if
you
happen
to
own,
your
property
tax
is
going
to
go
up.
We
hear
a
lot
from
people
about
how
unaffordable
Evanston
is.
A
We
know
in
general
that
race
and
socio-economic
strands
along
the
same
lines
here
in
Evanston,
and
so
you
know
it
looking
at
fees
versus
looking
at
a
property
tax
increase.
If
you
look
at
the
fees,
I
think
some
people
think
well.
Okay,
you
know
take
parking,
for
instance,
if
parking
rates
you
know
went
up,
but
the
city
used
this
approach
that
they
presented
to
the
council
about
I
forget
the
term
that
you
called
it
Wally.
The
demand
based
demand
base,
where
you
still
can
get
parking
from
the
current
for
the
current
rate.
A
AB
So
one
of
the
things
part
of
the
issue
here
is
again
is
that
that
we
haven't
defined
what
we
want
to
be,
who
we
want
to
be
and
how
we
want
to
respond
to
be
an
equitable
community.
The
ensure
equity
in
all
operations
does
not
help
at
all,
I
mean
it's
so
nebulous
that
we
could
go
any
direction
anywhere
with
that.
AB
So,
but
what
I
would
say
to
you
is
that
this
really
discount
these
kinds
of
conversations,
equity
conversations
in
conversations
about
an
equitable
community,
really
push
us
to
to
make
some
decisions
so
the
affordable
housing
that,
when
you
talk
about
raising
taxes,
affordable
housing
becomes
an
even
bigger
question
right
and
and
what
are
we
gonna
do
about
affordable
housing?
How
are
what
what
is
a
for?
How
can
we
define
affordable
for
those
on
the
lower
end
of
the
socio-economic
scale?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
address
those
issues,
and
that's
part
of
it?
AB
AB
Upfront,
probably
is
true,
but
but
what
does
the
data
tell
us
and
and
and
how
are
we
engaging
with
the
community?
Alright,
we've
raised
taxes,
and
this
is
what
it
means
now
we
have
to
be
committed
to
going
in
and
help
mitigating
the
consequences
of
those
higher
taxes.
So
we've
raised
the
taxes.
We've
got
this
now.
What
our
job
is.
The
next
six
months
is
to
pay
attention
to
the
community.
Those
most
been
impacted
by
this
and
figure
out.
How
do
we
assist
them?
AB
How
do
we
allow
them
to
continue
to
live
in
our
community
and
then
it
hopefully
forces
us
to
take
a
really
hard
look
and
recognize
their
unintended
consequences
to
everything
we
do
and
this
this
budget?
That's
just
the
way.
It's
going
to
be
no
matter
how
much
that
makes
any
of
us
uncomfortable
so
so,
but
but
a
commitment
to
mitigating
those
consequences
and
moving
forward
in
a
way
that
allows
us
not
to
come
back
to
this
place
next
year
in
five
years
from
now
is
what's
most
important.
No.
AF
AF
I'm
more
than
willing
to
do
that,
I
think
that's
a
great
thing
for
our
city
you're.
Taking
some
of
these
issues
that
I
had
sort
of
thought,
I
had
fixed
in
my
brain
and
you're
turning
them
upside
down,
I'm
like
wow,
you
know
I
mean,
but
that's
interesting.
It's
interesting
to
to
go
through
that,
and
not
only
challenge,
but
discussion,
I
sort
of
equated
to
going
on
a
diet
and
counting
calories.
You
know
how
many
calories
are
gonna
spend
during
the
day.
You've
got
to
make
a
choice.
AF
What
are
you
gonna
eat
and
it
becomes
suddenly
Wow?
Then
you
know
my
days
just
gotten
much
more
complicated,
but
in
a
good
way.
So
I
I
want
to
find
a
way
that
we
can
have
this
discussion
so
that
our
brains
are
sort
of
a
rounded
in
everything
that
we
do
in
every
committee.
We're
meeting
in
and
every
I
almost
want
to
wear
a
button
on
my
shirt
that
reminds
me
to
do.
That
is
that
the
right
way
of
thinking
about
this
I
mean
we're
a
thank
you.
Aldrin
Holmes
I
knew
alderman
Holmes.
AF
To
tell
me
what
the
right,
but
I
I
really
want
to
do
that.
So,
where
can
we?
Where
can
we
start
training
ourselves,
I
mean?
Should
we
come
to
human
services?
Should
we
because
of
this
case
it
can't
be
just
that
we
sit
down
and
talk
about
this
today
here
talk
about
it,
you
know
once
a
month
we've
got
to
figure
out
how
to
do
this
and
everything
that
we
do.
How
do
we
do
that?
Wally.
AB
And
I
have
been
talking
about
that
and
we
we
do
have
a
plan
so
after
the
first
two
they
won't
you
get
through
the
budget
season.
We
have
a
plan
to
kind
of
get
city
council
on
one
page
and
then
understand
how
you
can
embed
this
and
everything
that
you
do
and
it's
it's
it's
much
easier
than
you
think
it
is
it's
just
it's
it's
coming
to
this
place
where
we
make
that
commitment
and
I
think
coming
to
this
place
in
the
midst
of
a
crisis.
AB
A
budget
crisis
is
a
very
good
thing
because
all
of
us
are
uncomfortable.
None
of
us
want
to
be
back
here,
and
so
it
pushes
us
to
do
the
work
coming
up
beyond
this.
We've
got
to
get
through
this
because
the
reality
is.
We
can't
fix
this
in
any
way,
but
once
we
get
me
on
this,
let's
be
serious
about,
like
you
said.
Embedding
that
conversation
everything
we
do
thank.
AC
You
mr.
mayor
hi,
there
heard
from
all
of
and
fisken
I,
don't
know
if
you've
had
an
opportunity
to
go
to
their
one
of
their
meetings.
Really
impressive,
oh
I'll
show
you
yeah,
it's
I
mean
they
get
very
granular
and
the
conversations
they
have
and
how
they
break
it
down
so
I
would
encourage
members
of
council
if
he
hadn't
had
an
opportunity
to
so.
Please,
please
attend
I've
had
an
opportunity
in
city
manager.
AC
Thank
you
for
talking
about
the
star
communities
just
to
briefly
look
at
their
website
and
their
framework
I'd
like
to
make
a
referral.
I
don't
know
if
I
was
the
appropriate
time
or
maybe
we
do
it
cause
awards
to
to
look
at
this
I
like
the
idea
of
having
a
metric
and
some
type
of
measurement
tool.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is.
This
is
the
right
one.
Just
looking
at
their
goals
and
objectives.
AC
I
do
see
the
equity
and
power
piece
embedded
in
all
the
areas
that
they
examine
and
love
to
have
that
broader
discussion
and
Human
Services
to
make
sure
that
we're
using
the
right
one
I've
we've
had
a
conversation
years
ago
that
I
wish.
We
could
find
a
similar
tool
to
measure
how
well
we
provide
service
to
the
black
community
and
we
just
for
whatever
reason.
We've
never
been
able
to
find
that,
but
maybe
with
looking
at
this
group
and
with
Pastor
raffia,
we
can
find
something
out.
There.
Z
And
if
I
may,
mr.
mayor
members
of
the
council
up
in
Braithwaite,
we
have
to
take
the
star
community
framework
and
really
make
it
our
own
and
I.
Think
part
of
that
then
got
doubles
back
to
dr.
Humes
point.
We
collect
data,
but
we
don't
necessarily
have
enough
of
it.
I
mean
we
collect
all
the
star
community
data,
but
we
don't
know
who
we're
serving.
We
know
we're
serving
people
and
then
the
star
community
framework
really.
Is
it
doesn't
go
that
granular?
It
just
says:
are
you
serving
your
community
in
X,
Y
Z?
Z
It
doesn't
say
who
in
your
community
you're
serving
and
then
conversely,
who
maybe
you're
not
serving
right,
so
there's
likely
a
way
that
we
can
continue
using
the
star
community,
because
the
the
questions
are
the
right
questions.
We
just
have
to
do
a
better
job,
having
more
complete
answers,
and
so,
if
we
have
more
complete
answers
and
know
which
communities
within
our
community
again,
this
is
a
national
framework.
It
was
meant
to
be
something
that
that
I
think
is
a
community
basis,
but
really
we
want
more
out
of
it.
Z
AC
Just
filed
for
the
question
because
I
filled
some
of
this
and
I
know
our
directors
participate
in
cradle
to
career.
I
mean
I
feel
like
they
are
in
the
process
of
gathering
some
of
this
data
and,
if
not
I
mean
I.
Guess
it's
just
the
question:
are
they
doing
it
and
if
not,
why?
And
how
do
we
engage
them?
AB
A
Z
And
I'm
just
going
to
say
thank
you
to
miss
Lewis
Lincoln
for
the
excellent
work
that
she's
done
and
I'm
just
going
to
direct
you
to
the
memorandum
that
she
prepared,
the
balancing
act,
software
exercise,
199
balanced
budget
submissions,
so
that
you
had
to
do
this.
You
had
to
balance
you
can
read
for
yourself.
There
was
a
demographic
breakdown.
I
think
we
did.
It
had
a
bet
job
of
getting
a
better
cross-section
kudos
to
the
9th
ward.
18%
of
those
respondents
were
from
the
9th
Ward.
Z
When
you
look
at
the
responses,
people
were
resoundingly
didn't
want
to
raise
any
revenue
and
they
weren't
really
keen
on
any
reductions
to
expenditures.
However,
if
you
look
at
page
six
of
the
memorandum,
the
issue
of
across-the-board
cuts
and
so
the
not
surprisingly
the
administrative
side
of
the
city,
everyone
balance
their
budgets
by
cutting
the
administrative
side
of
the
city.
So
so
I
point
you
to
all
that.
Z
Z
I
think
that
there
was
a
struggle
regarding
capital
spending
and
in
really
very
little
in
suggestions
on
other
approaches,
but
I
will
leave
you
for
all
that
and
then
there
were
comments
submitted
through
the
website
which
we
provided
to
you
verbatim,
and
those
are
the
last
several
pages
of
this
so
I
think
just
sort
of
to
conclude
mr.
mayor
members,
the
council,
the
city's
staffs
presentation
with
the
budget.
We
worked
really
hard,
I
think
to
engage
people.
I
was
really
surprised
at
the
interest
in
these
community
budget
workshops.
I
think
is
dr..
Z
Fpm
said
you
know
we
have
to
get
to
people
more
I
mean
that
takes
time,
energy
and
effort,
but
I
think
people
enjoyed
it.
I
think
people
enjoyed
being
in
diverse
places,
from
little
beans
to
temperance,
brewery
and
everywhere
in
between
and
I
think
we
just
have
to
institutionalize
those
kind
of
discussions.
More
often,
I
think
the
the
ward
meetings
certainly
do
that
to
a
certain
degree,
but
I
also
think
that
there's
a
structured
framework
toward
meetings
that
sometimes
just
by
the
nature
of
the
beast.
Z
You
know
the
don't
allow
the
same
kind
of
discussion,
so
we
provide
all
that
information
for
you.
You
have
a
number
of
budget
memos
and
at
this
point
mr.
mayor
will
just
get
out
of
the
way
and
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
as
the
council
deliberates
over
any
time
remaining
today
and
then
the
next
several
Monday's,
okay.
A
I
just
want
to
commend
you
and
Kate
I
read
through
that
last
night.
It
was
I
think
you
guys
have
really
done
a
remarkable
job.
This
budget
season
getting
getting
out
there
and
the
tool
I
mean
so
many
people
came
up
to
us
to
tell
us.
You
know
how
difficult
your
job
is
right,
because
you
got
the
tool
and
you
got
to
balance
it
at
the
end
of
the
day.
So
well
done
well
done.
Alderman,
Fisk,
yeah,.
AF
Z
AG
AH
Lawrence
Hemingway,
director
of
Parks
and
Rec,
it
is
what
we've
done
is
just
to
show.
The
echo
quest
camp
is
ran
by
the
ecology,
Center
staff
and
for
clarity
purposes.
We
wanted
to
show
the
echo
Quest
has
its
own
business
unit,
but
it's
R
and
by
the
ecology
center
staff.
So
you
know
it's
part
of
what
they
do,
so
it
was,
in
my
opinion,
to
show
the
combination
of
the
of
the
operations
so
that
you
see,
because
that
revenue
still
balances
the
the
actual
program
for
the
expenses
of
a
coke
whistle.
A
Any
more
any
more
discussion
on
any
questions
or
things
with
the
sb6
okay,
seeing
no
lights,
we're
gonna
move
to
call
of
the
wards
before
we
do
that.
I
just
want
the
the
public
to
know
on
Monday
evening,
October
29th,
while
it
correct
me,
but
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
the
budget
as
well
as
affordable
as
well
as
affordable
housing.
This
was
a
meeting
that
we
set
up
for
affordable
housing
and
and
there'll
be
a
lot
of
conversation
at
that
meeting.
I
anticipate
about
about
the
budget.
What
I
would
ask
the
public?
A
We
certainly,
as
always,
will
have
public
comment.
We
have
had
public
comment.
Obviously,
the
last
several
meetings
many
people
have
gotten
up
about
the
budget.
You're
certainly
welcome
to
get
up
about
about
the
budget.
Again.
The
last
meeting
we
had
we
had
about
50
people.
I
would
ask
this.
If
you
have
gotten
up
in
sort
of
expressed
your
your
opinion,
there
may
be
some
value
in
Monday
night
if
we
don't
have
a
huge
line
for
public
comment,
and
it
gives
this
council
more
time
to
have
a
really
thorough
conversation
about
these
really
challenging
issues.
A
AA
I'm
sorry
I
thought
we
were
going
to
go
into
something
else,
not
in
the
meeting
so
I
didn't
have
my
light
on
I
would
like
a
brief
explanation
of
how
the
determination
was
made
to
not
have
the
certified
not
to
cut
items
in
the
budget
that
would
disqualify
us
from
being
a
certified
health
agency.
Alderman.
Z
Z
Lee
has
been
spending
a
lot
of
time
sort
of
parsing
through
definitions
and
funding
sources
with
with
the
Health
Department
of
we
are
a
certified
health
department
under
the
state
of
Illinois
through
the
planning
process
that
we
do
annually
or
every
five
years,
which
is
known
as
the
e
plan
and
I
think
you've
heard
the
there
have
been
presentations
on
that
in
the
past,
so
the
certification
of
of
the
being
of
the
health
department
comes
from
that
planning
process.
So
we
could
continue
to
do
the
planning
process
with
the
cuts.
Z
However,
there
then
comes
another
definition
which
we
have
never
really
talked
about
specifically
here,
and
that
is
the
definition
of
a
health
department
under
the
the
terms
of
the
state
of
Illinois
and
so
in
dealing
with
the
budget
process
and
looking
at
potential
cuts.
We
focus
solely
on
those
that
were
not
supported
by
revenue
and
were
funded
through
the
general
fund,
and
so
the
the
cuts
that
you
have
seen
reflect
that
in
further
discussions
and
I'll
ask
mr.
Li
to
come
up
because
my
ability
to
do
this
off
thought.
Z
My
head
is
going
to
come
to
an
end,
the
the
issues
with
being
a
Health
Department
under
the
state
of
Illinois,
one
component,
that
if
we
do
not
keep
it,
we
will
not
be
a
Health.
Department
is
the
is
the
communicable
disease
service?
So
we
don't
have
to
have
a
position
per
se,
but
we
have
to
continue
to
provide
those
services
to
be
considered
a
health
department
under
the
definition
of
the
state
of
Illinois.
Is
that
correct?
That
is.
AI
Z
So
in
the
in
the
creation
of
the
budget
recommendations
that
that
piece,
even
though
it's
there's
a
still
a
large
general
fund
portion
to
it,
was
included
for
that
reason
through
these
discussions,
certainly
from
my
perspective,
I
would
would
hope
that
the
council
would
consider
restoring
that
position,
because
we
need
to
continue
to
have
health
department.
Obviously,
there's
lots
of
other
things.
The
health
department
does
which
are
not
being
proposed
for
elimination,
so
people
have
been
very
loose
in
their
discussions
about
this
their
werden.
Z
Z
Z
To
see
you
and
I
have,
but
in
the
council
knows
you
need
to
be
someplace
else,
so
we
will.
We
can
probably
continue
this
discussion
on
Monday
we've
been
talking
about
the
differences
between
being
a
health
department
in
Illinois.
There's
a
certified
health
department
in
Illinois.
The
communicable
disease
position
will
allow
us
to
continue
to
be
a
health
department
in
Illinois
of
the
certification
comes
from
the
broader
planning
process
that
we
do
every
five
years,
so
I've
just
shared
with
the
council.
Z
That
would
be
my
recommendation
that
we
restore
the
communicable
disease
position
in
order
to
do
that
and
I
think
then
the
council
will
probably
want
a
broader
discussion
about
the
other
services
that
are
being
proposed
for
reduction
of
the
the
public
health
educator,
the
assistant
director
and
then
the
shift
to
the
the
the
victim
advocate.
So
perhaps
mr.
Z
mayor
murmurs,
the
counsel
we'd
be
happy
to
start
Monday
evening
discussion
with
it,
with
a
broader
description
of
that
we've
also
looked
at
some
of
the
revenue
numbers
kind
of
I
think
submitted
a
memo
in
the
packet
from
yesterday
with
a
with
a
better
focus
on
that,
because
some
of
the
grant
money
that
we
received
as
multi-year.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
counting
it
fiscally
by
fiscal
year
and
I
believe
over
the
last
day
or
two
we've
done
a
more
precise
job
with
that
so
alderman
Rainey.
Is
it
alright?
A
AA
Want
to
better
understand
the
whole
movement
of
our
parking
enforcement
operation
to
a
private
entity,
I,
don't
quite
I'm.
Looking
at
the
numbers
and
you're
telling
us
that
our
parking
enforcement
officers
total
eleven
nine
full-time
to
part-time
and
they
only
do
parking
enforcement
70%
of
their
time,
because
otherwise
they're
doing
other
services
such
as
crossing
guards,
etc
and
I.
AA
AA
AI
What
we've
shown
in
the
budget
balancing
worksheet
is
that
if
the
City
Council
agrees
to
move
forward
with
the
services
of
the
crossing
guard
being
provided
by
an
outside
agency,
that
we
would
then
free
up
those
crossing
guards
that
are
currently
covering
for
sick
calls
and
things
like
that
to
actually
go
out
and
enforce.
So
some,
like,
like
you,
said,
seventy
percent
of
the
time
they're
doing
enforcement.
Thirty
percent
of
the
time
there
doing
traffic
for
police
and
then
they're
doing
crossing
guard
services.
AI
So
if
fifteen
to
twenty
five
percent,
more
of
their
time
was
freed
up
to
actually
do
enforcement,
then
we
anticipate
an
increased
revenue
to
the
city
of
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
As
a
doctor,
oh
sorry,
I
didn't
mean
to
cut
you
off,
but
I
wanted
to
get
to
the
point
about
the
what
your
your
point
is
is
in
Sundays.
We
have
a.
AI
However,
as
we've
spoken
before,
every
additional
parking
enforcement
officer
that
we
have
in
the
budget
is
a
net
impact
of
about
two
hundred
twenty-five
thousand
dollars
after
we
pay
them
their
salary
and
take
that
out
of
the
revenue
that
we
would
gain
from
their
services
being
provided.
It's
a
net
Hunt
$225
thousand.
AA
AA
Z
That's
so
that's
important
information
for
us
to
respond
to,
because
there
are
already
are
shift
workers
I,
think
if
we
are
able
to.
If
that's
what
the
the
the
intent
is,
we
can
then
perhaps
look
at
shifting
full-time
positions
to
a
Tuesday
through
Sunday
Wednesday
through
Sunday.
You
know
you
know
mid
afternoon
to
you
know
mid
evening
shift.
So
if
that's
there's
an
interest
there,
we'll
we'll
work
on
that,
because
I
think
that
would
also
be
helpful.
I.
AI
AI
M
A
AE
AD
A
Fernan
no
report
of
Monroeville
Marini
hold
him.
If
this.
AF
Thanks
I
wanted
to
thank
alderman
Wilson
for
his
comments
earlier
and
for
his
comments
just
now
about
people
stay.
We
hear
all
the
time
about
lagging
trust
and
city,
government
and
I.
Think
when
you
stay-
and
you
listened
to
the
conversation,
you
understand
the
the
depth
that
we
go
to
to
try
not
only
to
communicate
but
also
to
get
our
heads
around
the
budget
and
do
the
right
thing
forever.
AF
You
can't
do
that
unless
you
really
sit
through
it
with
us,
so
I'm
I'm
really
happy
to
see
you
all
here
and
again,
Thank
You
alderman
Wilson
for
that.
Now
on
the
comment
that
alderman
Rainey
was
just
making
I'm
curious
as
to
is:
is
there
any
way
to
estimate
the
lost
revenue
from
parking
enforcement
during
football
games?