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C
A
We
have
a
quorum
present
and
are
prepared
to
do
our
work
for
the
evening.
We'll
begin
with
my
public
announcements
and
proclamations,
just
two
very
quick
things.
A
First
wanted
to
share
with
the
council
and
the
community
and
the
city
staff
that
we've
the
deputy
city
manager,
kimberly
richardson,
has
completed
her
time
with
the
city
is
moving
on
to
a
very
exciting
opportunity
in
peoria
and
just
wanted
to
again
thank
her
for
the
really
remarkable
and
extensive
work
she's
done
for
the
city
of
evanston
during
a
really
critical
moment
in
our
in
our
time.
So
I
just
hope
everyone
will
join
me
in
wishing
her
every
success
and
what
is
again
a
really
exciting
opportunity.
A
That
we
have
to
live
with
this,
but
it's
really
honestly
a
great
thing
when
our
staff
move
on
to
situations
like
like
these,
it's
a
sign
of
of
how
all
the
work
they've
done
here
is
respected
across
the
state
and
region
and
country.
So,
first
of
all,
I
thank
everyone.
Thank
you
kimberly
for
that
and
hope
everyone
will
join
me
in
that
in
that
sentiment
and,
secondly,
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
with
the
weather,
that's
come
through
the
region
on
a
rolling
basis.
A
In
the
last
few
days,
our
our
staff
has
been
working
around
the
clock
and
want
to
thank
them
for
that
and
thank
residents
for
for
calling
in
situations
that
need
extra
attention,
and
obviously
these
are
not
easy
times,
but
it's
really
important
that
we
have
a
group
of
dedicated
skilled
professionals
serving
our
community.
I
want
to
say
a
big
big
thank
you
to
our
team
in
this
moment
with
that.
The
next
item
is
the
city
manager's,
public
announcements.
D
Good
evening
members
of
city
council,
mayor
bisque
clerk,
mendoza,
kelly,
gandersky
interim
city
manager,
I
want
to
echo
the
mayor's
sentiments.
We
want
to
thank
kimberly
richardson
for
all
of
her
hard
work
and
dedication
to
the
city
of
evanston
over
the
past
six
years.
She
started
at
the
city
as
an
assistant
to
the
city
manager
and
worked
her
way
up
to
deputy
city
manager,
and
I
think
all
of
you
have
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
her
on
a
board
commissioner
committee
or
otherwise.
D
We
understand
this
is
a
difficult
time
when
it
snows
so
much
city
staff
is
doing
the
best
they
can
to
accommodate
those
who
have
to
move
their
cars.
The
maple
street
parking
garage
is
open
for
free
and
evanston
township
high
school
is
also
letting
us
use
their
lot
as
well
and
there's
a
few
other
spots
residents
are
able
to
move
their
cars
to
if
they
so
need.
So
we
just
ask
that
you
please
be
mindful
of
the
notices
going
out
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
please
feel
free
to
call
and
someone
can
direct
you.
B
Hi
I
wanted
to
just
acknowledge
public
comment
from
that
was
sent
and
submitted
by
evanston
light
tv
and
betty
esther.
I
also
did
want
to
comment
about
sp1.
I've
received
two
emails
and
a
few
phone
calls
asking
if
the
city
clerk
would
be
included
in
resolution
ar
22
and
from
what
I
understand
since
I
am
not
technically
a
member
of
the
council,
I
would
not
be
included
in
that,
but
I
would
more
than
welcome
being
included.
B
I
think
it's
that's
a
good
example
moving
forward
in
these
cases
when
we
do
have
emergencies-
and
I
think
the
city
clerk
being
so
close
to
all
of
you
should
also
be
included
into
that
resolution.
So
I'd
appreciate
an
amendment.
I
fully
support
this
resolution.
I'm
fully
vaccinated
boosted
and
have
young
children,
so
I
would
very
much
welcome
if
one
of
you
could
make
that
amendment.
Thank
you.
A
Happy
to
do
that.
Thank
you.
Clerk
mendoza,
thanks
thanks
for
the
for
that
flag.
Next
on
our
agenda
is
public
comment
today
in
public
comment.
Every
speaker
will
be
given
three
minutes,
we'll
begin
with
mike
visilco,
who
will
be
followed
by
carla
thomas
and
then
william,
petty.
E
Mayor
this
is
luke
starr.
I
think
michael
circo
is
having
some
audio
issues,
so
we
might
want
to
come.
A
Back
to
him,
okay,
we'll
come
back
to
him
at
the
end.
So
we'll
begin
then
with
carla
thomas,
who
will
be
followed
by
william,
petty
and
then
tina
payton.
F
These
residents
are
on
our
streets
because
this
city
and
the
government
as
a
whole
has
failed
them
and
the
non-profits
that
rise
up
to
do
the
job
of
a
socialized
government
that
a
socialized
government
should
be
doing
and
don't
tell
me,
we
don't
have
a
socialized
government,
because
we
are
socializing
big
businesses
with
tax
breaks
locally.
We
socialize
northwestern
university
as
they
exist
here
on
stolen
land
and
do
not
pay
any
taxes
for
that
land.
But
I
digress
this
city
and
country
fail
them
and
non-profits
who
rise
up
to
do.
F
Have
you
all
met
white
people,
I
mean:
do
we
not
have
enough
of
a
policing
problem
in
this
community?
Why
on
earth
would
be
add
to
our
policing
crisis?
This
will
undoubtedly
turn
to
folks
calling
cops
to
have
individuals
who
this
country
this
city
has
failed
removed.
We
understand
that
poverty
and
racial
lines
are
irrevocably
undetanglable
because
of
the
violent
history
of
this
country,
so
how
in
the
goddess's
name,
can
we
even
begin
to
reconcile
these
actions
with
our
racial
equity,
ordinance
and
promises?
F
Who
are
these
signs
disproportionately
likely
to
affect
in
negative
ways?
Is
anyone
surprised
that
this
first
came
up
in
the
first
ward
council
meeting?
This
is
just
the
latest
example
of
evanston
wanting
drive
by
diversity
only
until
the
reality
of
the
socio-economic
diversity
is
too
often
in
our
faces.
There
are
people
that
this
community
has
failed
outside
every
grocery
store
in
town.
In
my
failure
to
plan
meals,
I'm
at
the
grocery
store
at
least
three
times
a
week,
and
I
have
never
felt
harassed
by
individuals
in
this
that
this
system
has
failed.
F
I
will
be
the
first
to
point
out
that
systemic
equity
and
charity
are
absolutely
two
different
things,
but
we
as
citizens
will
be
damned
if
we
let
leaders
who
fail
to
provide
for
these
citizens
these
residents
stop,
then
stop
us
from
doing
the
little
that
we
can,
because
government
often
offers
them
no
better
option.
F
I
am
a
thousand
percent
for
systemic
change
that
creates
fewer
people
who
have
their
hands
out
for
charity,
but
to
cut
out
the
charitable
efforts
that
make
that
attempt
to
re
attempt
to
reroute
them
through
our
registration
non-profits
makes
it
so
that
these
folks
can't
do
the
very
little
to
su
that
they
can
to
survive
from
meal
to
meal,
to
double
down
on
our
failure
and
tie
the
hands
of
the
citizens
to
chip
in
as
small
as
they
can
adds
extra
violence
to
our
ready,
broken
system
and
to
say
that
it
works
in
rockford
illinois,
because
yeah
rockford
illinois
is
the
bastion
of
racial
equity.
F
How
about
we
do
our
research
and
realize
the
behemoth?
Protest
in
sioux
falls
south
dakota
anchorage
alaska
and
how,
in
kanloops
canada,
that
these
signs
were
taken
down
just
as
quickly
as
they
went
up
because
of
citizen
outcry.
So
addressing
the
acts
of
panel
handling
when
the
root
cause
is
poverty
is
like
giving
vaccines
for
coughing
when
the
root
cause
is
covered.
I'm
here
to
ask
that
before
any
more
work
is
done
on
this
racist
classist
and
just
plain,
elitist,
hair
brain
scheme
that
the
city
council
realizes
that
they
have
an
equity
ordinance.
F
They
are
supposed
to
be
living
up
to
to
move
forward
on
this
part
on
this
idea
would
be
the
city
of
evanston,
telling
the
homeless
residents
or
panhandling
residents.
And,
yes,
I
say
residents
because
they
are
residents
that
you
have
failed,
that
you're
not
already
okay
with
failing
them,
but
you
also
are
going
to
do
everything
in
your
power
to
edge
them
out
of
our
town
for
the
comfort
of
wealthy
white
citizens.
This
is
the
opposite
of
equity.
Heavens
then
strikes
again.
G
Okay,
I
I
guess
my
video's
off,
but
can
you
hear
me
yeah?
We
can
hear
you
okay,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
this
time.
I'm
talk.
My
concern
is
with
the
okay,
I'm
gonna
start
my
video
here.
Okay,
you
don't
really
need
to
see
me,
I'm
not
that
good
looking
to
begin
with,
but
my
concern
is,
with
the
latest
mitigation
order
that
we
have
to
show
proof
of
vaccination
in
order
to
get
into
many
establishments
in
evanston.
The
kobe
thing
has
caused
a
lot
of
disruption:
business
in
everson.
G
Over
the
last
year,
businesses
have
gone
out
my
my
very
favorite
restaurant.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
the
little
mexican
restaurant
went
out
of
business.
We
don't
have
a
barnes
and
nobles
anymore,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
and
I
think
this
is
this
is
overkill
yeah
and
I
think
the
problem
is
that
we've
been
given
a
lot
of
misinformation
and
I'm
kind
of
I'm
beginning
to
feel
like
charlie
brown
and
lucy
with
the
football,
and
here
are
some
of
my
concerns.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
C
G
Repurposed
repurposed
drugs
that
actually
stop
covet
in
the
real
world,
drugs
that
are
decades
long,
that
have
safety
records
that
are
decades
long,
that
are
better
than
tylenol,
have
been
suppressed
and
demised.
Even
though
there
is
abundant
proof
that
they
are
effective
against
covid,
if
employed
early,
why
don't
we
concentrate
on
the
people
who
are
truly
vulnerable
and
help
them
and
leave
the
rest
of
us
alone?
G
A
H
H
H
You
also
have
projects
in
the
pipeline
that
have
white
people
owning
the
building
and
only
renting
to
black
people,
pretending
that
they
will
be
an
investor
later
on.
Is
this
really
fair
and
equitable?
As
you
pretend
are
you
listening
to
us
when
we're
talking,
it
doesn't
appear
to
be
fair
and
equitable,
when
you
only
have
white
people
owning
property
and
pretending
that
they're
going
to
put
forth
and
have
the
black
people
be
a
renter
or
an
owner
of
a
project?
H
This
is
not
happening
just
in
one
project
in
the
pipeline.
This
is
happening
in
moore.
What
is
reparations
really
about
this
16
people
that
were
just
chosen,
which
needs
to
be
public
information?
A
list
of
names
is
reparations
for
the
harassment
of
the
city
officials,
which
is
supposed
to
be,
and
not
fair
and
equitable
opportunity.
H
I'm
sure
that
I
will
receive
many
co-violations
after
my
statement
today,
but
think
about
what
you're
doing,
because
I'm
interested
in
my
40
acres
in
a
mule,
because
I
at
least
could
get
something,
maybe
in
downtown
evanston
as
a
black
person
black
lives
matter
all
the
time,
not
some
of
the
time.
Thank
you.
I
There
should
be
no
reason
to
single
out
one
or
two
people
to
receive
benefits
from
the
reformation
reparations
fund
if
they
sit
on
the
reparations
committee,
because
that's
more
of
a
conflict
of
interest
than
anything
else,
you
shouldn't
set
the
precedent
by
carving
out
an
exception
for
somebody
on
the
committee.
I
I
also
don't
know
why.
Sp2
the
hazard
pay
keeps
coming
back.
Evanston
doesn't
seem
to
worry
too
much
about
those
kind
of
people
that
you
know
we're
on
the
front
lines.
Personally,
I
think
they
deserve
it,
but
I'm
sure
you'll
deny
that
one
more
time
tonight,
but
that
leads
me
to
point
three.
The
main
point.
I
Some
of
you
know
that
there
is
an
evidence
in
property
owner
a
senior
single
woman
living
on
a
piece
of
property
in
evanston,
and
this
is
something
eleanor
revell
is
very
in
tune
to
as
well
as
maybe
a
few
other
aldermen.
I
think
alderman
reed
burns
and
kelly
are
aware
of
the
situation.
I
I
This
is
back
when
granderski
was
in
charge
of
the
law
department
has
elected
to
pursue,
having
this
person
basically
evicted
from
her
property.
I
I
That
piece
of
property
will
end
up
being
divvied
up
between
the
neighbors
who
again
are
evanston's
happy
few
and
I'm
not
sure
what
is
going
to
happen
to
the
to
the
woman
who
actually
lives
in
that
home
and
lives
not
on
that
property.
I
My
understanding
is
there's
a
hearing
tomorrow.
The
city
has
an
opportunity
to
back
off
on
this
threat.
Basically,
it's
almost
eminent
that
this
foreclosure
is
going
to
take
place
again
at
the
because
of
the
actions
of
our
now
interim
city
manager
and
former
law
department
chief
and
eleanor
revell.
I
I
So
please
take
an
opportunity
to
direct
your
staff
to
back
off
and
to
withdraw
their
threat
of
foreclosing
on
this
in
court
tomorrow.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you.
The
final
remaining
speaker
is
priscilla
giles,
who
I
believe
I
do
not
see
in
the
zoom.
Ms
giles
are
you?
Are
you
there.
A
Thank
you
luke.
I
appreciate
that
in
that
case,
that
concludes
public
comment
this
this
evening.
This
brings
us
to
special
orders
of
business
beginning
with
sp1.
Would
someone
like
to
make
a
motion
regarding
item
sp1.
A
Council,
member
reed
moves
item,
sp1
council
member
burns
seconds,
opening
the
discussion
and
just
want
to
remind
folks
that
the
clerk
asked
for
an
amendment
to
be
considered,
and
so,
if
someone
wants
to
make
such
a
motion,
that
would
entertain
that
as
well.
A
I
supposed
to
use
the
raise
your
hand
function
in
zoom,
because
that's
the
only
way
the
guarantees,
I
see
people
in
an
equitable
way.
I
think
let's
go,
I
think
councilman
rita's
hand
up
first,
read
followed
by
newsmen.
K
Yeah,
so
I
I
in
favor
of
this
resolution,
I
think
it's
important
for
city
council
members
to
follow
the
same
rules
that
our
and
the
rules
that
we
want
to
set
for
other
folks.
So
I
think
this
makes
sense.
I
agree
that
the
clerk
should
be
included
in
this
as
well,
and
so
I
will
move
that
amendment
as
well.
As
I
think
another
group
that
was
left
out
is
are
the
folks
who
serve
on
our
committees.
K
I
think
the
same
requirement
should
be
in
place
for
the
council
members,
the
clerk
and
folks
who
serve
on
our
boards,
committees
and
commissions,
and
so
I
want
to
make
an
amendment
to
include
the
clerk
and
board
committee
and
commission
members.
A
So
I
was,
I
was
all
set
to
relax
my
amendments
in
writing
because
for
the
clerk,
because
it's
so
clear
but
actually
to
amend
this
to
include
other
bcc's
would
be
a
little
bit
more
complicated
because
obviously
the
text
of
the
resolution
itself
refers
to
city
council
meetings
as
opposed
to
board
board
meetings.
It
becomes
a
little
more
complicated.
We
can
do
that,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
get
that
right
rather
than
pass
something
we're
not
totally
sure
about.
K
Okay,
yeah:
we
can
yeah
I'll
put
that
in
writing
and
make
it
so
meeting
public
meetings.
You
know
10
public
meetings
as
opposed
to
city
council
meetings,
because
I
think
this
should
count
for
you
know:
council
members
attend.
You
know
we
have
various
subcommittees
and
committees
that
we
serve
on.
We
should
be
testing
in
advance
of
that
and
the
folks
that
we
serve
with
as
well
should
be
testing
or
fully
vaccinated
or
a
mix
of
both
is
what
I
think
is
probably
best.
K
I
do
have
a
question
I
I
do
wonder
you
know,
particularly
including
everyone
if
we
should
include
accessibility
to
testing
for
both
city
staff,
to
test
for
both
city
staff,
our
volunteers
on
committees
and
council
members
for
whoever
wants.
You
know
whether
you're,
regardless
of
your
vaccination
status.
If
you
want
to
make
sure
you're
keeping
folks
safe
before
coming
to
council,
I
think
we
should
make
those
available.
A
So
before
we
go
to
council
renews,
it
looks
like
both
corporation
council,
cummings
and
interim
city
manager.
Henderson
have
responses
to
that.
Perhaps
both
parts
of
that
so
I
think
go
ahead
and
in
whatever
order
you
guys
want
it
good.
J
Evening,
mr
mayor
members
of
city
council
clerk
mendoza
nicholas
cummings,
corporation
council,
I
just
had
I'll
take
the
second
part
of
councilman
reid's
comment
about
testing.
I
know
that
the
director
of
health
and
human
services
is
working
on
an
agreement
to
get
that
done
and
available
for
folks
in
the
community.
So
I'm
I'm
I'm
going
to
believe
that
that
will
probably
be
available
to
city
staff
as
well
as
members
of
city
council
for
testing,
and
I
actually
actually
reviewed
that
agreement
prior
to
this
meeting.
J
So
I
know
that
that
is
in
the
works.
But
with
respect
to
the
amendment
I
would
ask
that
the
requirement
for
bcc
is
well
taken,
but
it
could
be
placed
in
a
different
section
because
the
city
council
rules
we
placed
it
here
because
it
deals
with
members
of
city
council.
But
there
are.
There
are
other
rules
that
may
deal
with
members
of
bcc's.
J
A
K
I
don't
think
it's
that
complicated.
I
think
we
it's
very
clear
what
the
requirement
is
and.
J
K
I
think
we'll
just
we
can
identify
that
section
very
quickly.
I
don't
think
it
will
take
going
to
another
meeting.
We
just
identify
the
section
and
the
languages.
A
All
right,
well
so
I'll,
let
let's
move
on
then
I'll,
let
maybe
council,
member,
read
and
and
nick
can
communicate
via
email
or
text
and
try
to
get
this
hammered
out.
There's
a
couple
folks
in
line
anyhow.
So
let's
let's
continue
the
discussion
and
see
if
this
amendment
can
take
shape,
while
that
goes
on.
So
next
will
be
new
smith,
followed
by
breakthrough.
E
E
A
We'll
come
back
to
you
when
the
moment
arises:
councilmember.
M
I
guess
this
is
more
a
question
for
our
ours,
our
staff
and
I'm
curious
to
know
how
you
are
monitoring
this
just
operationally
across
the
board.
Since
I've
been,
I
think
january,
the
first
or
second
week
of
january
we're
stopped.
I
have
to
show
my
you
know,
proof
of
vaccination
when
I
come
into
all
the
buildings.
So
I'm
glad
that
there's
an
overall
acceptance
on
city
council,
we
should
be
able
to
move
through
this
very
quickly
and
to
council
member
reid.
I
mean
everyone
stopped
anyway
coming
into
the
building
and
we're
not
meeting.
M
You
know
we're
not
meeting
in
person,
it's
all
remote,
so
I
think
we
do
have
time
to
work
through
whatever
details
our
corporation
council
is
is
is
suggesting,
but
kelly
or
anyone.
I
can
you
just
give
some
overall
feedback,
how
the
process
is
working
citywide
and
are
we
seeing
compliance,
those
that
are
not
vaccinated?
Are
they
staying
home
or
actually
standing,
someplace
and
taking
a
test?
I
guess
is
my
curious
question.
D
Sure
I'm
happy
to
jump
in
on
that
and
I'll,
let
mike
chime
in
for
anything
that
I've
missed,
but
again
good
evening,
mayor,
biss
clerk,
mendoza
members
of
city
council,
kelly
gandorski,
it's
gandersky
interim
city
manager.
I
want
to
let
you
know
the
process
is
working
quite
well.
D
Ike
ogbo,
our
director
of
public
health,
has
information
from
the
idph.
So
when
you
are
vaccinated
for
against
cova
19,
that
information
goes
to
idph
and
because
we
are
a
health
department.
Ike
has
access
to
that
list,
so
he
is
able
to
look
up
staff
members
who
are
who
have
received
the
vaccine
for
compliance
and
we've
provided
an
exception
for
those
that
do
not
want
to
have
the
vaccine.
They
must
submit
to
weekly
pcr
testing.
D
D
D
So
it's
not
been
a
reoccurrence
where
we
have
people
failing
to
test
or
failing
or
not
getting
the
vaccine.
So
it
is.
It
is
working
quite
well
and
ike
if
you're
on,
if
you
want
to
add
anything
else
that
I
may
have
missed.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
burns.
L
Yeah,
this
is
more
for
clarity.
I
got
clarity
overall,
but
certainly
if
we
include
we
expand
this.
L
Members
of
our
bcc's
aboard
committees
and
commissions,
so
this
this
is
24
hours
taken
within
24
hours
of
each
in-person
city
council
or
if
we
approve
one
of
council
members
amendments
or
24
hours
before
our
in-person
committee
meeting
or
you
know,
does
this
still
apply
if
the
meeting
is
held
remotely.
J
So
the
the
goal
of
the
rule,
this
particular
body-
has
met
in
person
for
the
most
part,
and
I
think
I
actually
mentioned
this
in
the
memo
for
the
for
the
special
order.
The
board's
commissions
and
committees,
which
has
a
diversity
of
people
that
are
involved
in
them,
including
a
lot
of
those
who
are
elderly,
did
not
feel
comfortable
originally
going
back
in
person
prior.
J
You
know,
even
before
we
even
begin
discussing
this
rule,
and
so
we
had
to
seek
a
consultation
from
the
illinois
municipal
league
on
how
to
handle
allowing
them
to
be
able
to
meet
virtually
while
city
council
was
still
meeting
in
person,
and
that's
where
it
came
out
came
about
that
the
mayor
could
issue
declaration
of
impractibility
for
the
boards
commissions
and
committees,
which
is
why
now
most
of
them
meet
virtually
the
spirit
behind
implementing
this
rule
is
so
that
we
all
could
meet
in
person
like
we
had
been
prior
to
omicron
variant,
spikes,
and
I
think
that
would
probably
be
the
same
spirit
with
respect
to
the
board's
commissions.
J
The
committees
is
to
get
them
to
be
back
in
person.
I
can
just
tell
you
from
my
experience
last
year
that
was
not
a
popular
option
amongst
some
of
our
boards
commissions
and
committees,
which
is,
which
is
why
they
continue
me
virtually
now.
J
I
do
know
that
it's
being
lobbied
in
springfield,
on
behalf
of
municipalities
across
the
state,
to
allow
us
this
flexibility
generally,
because
it's
actually
you
know
it
seems
to
be
more
accessible
even
to
the
public
to
be
able
to
participate
in
meetings
and
not
necessarily
have
to
come
to
the
civic
center
on
a
day
like
today
when
the
windshield
might
be.
You
know
very
frigid,
or
something
like
that.
So
that's.
D
If
I
could
just
jump
in
so
like
for
city
staff,
we
may
have
remote
meetings,
but
we
still
have
the
policy
in
place
because
there
are
times
that
we
meet
all
together
in
person.
So
just
because
we
have
the
remote
option,
we
still
want
the
first
and
then
speaking
on
behalf
of
staff.
D
We
want
the
policy
in
place
because
there's
going
to
come
a
time-
and
hopefully
this
is
the
last
we'll
see
of
this
tremendous
spike,
there's
going
to
come
a
time
where
we're
all
going
to
have
to
be
in
person
and
that's
the
ideal
is
we
want
to
be
in
person,
because
you
know
it's.
It's
very
effective
communication
that
way,
but
let.
C
A
Just
think
about
it,
let
me
just
clarify
that
the
resolution
that's
in
front
of
us
is
basically
it
doesn't.
You
know
the
city
staff
they
work
for
us
all
the
time,
so
the
rule
for
the
city
staff
is
test
negative
weekly,
but
the
resolution
for
the
city
council
is
test
negative
right
before
council
meetings
and
presumably
the
bcc
amendment
would
be
test
negative
right
before
the
board
committee
or
commission
meets,
and
I
think
councilmember
vern's
point
is
to
have
a
testing
mandate.
A
Yes,
that
right
house,
member.
L
K
A
A
I'm
not
seeing
any
new
hands
so
we'll
go
back
to
council
member
reed.
K
Thank
you.
I
wonder
two
given
that
you
know
I
think,
may
I
mean
council
member
burns's
amendment
makes
sense,
given
that
I
think
there's
agreement
right.
If
the
goal
of
this
is
to
keep
everyone
safe,
that
we
would
have
this
applied
to
our
committee
members
into
our
clerk.
Our
clerk
also
does
not
just
attend
as
a
former
clerk.
K
It
just
does
not
only
attend
city
council
meetings,
they
you
know,
work
within
the
building
and
interact
with
patrons
of
the
city
outside
of
that,
and
so
I
I
wonder
if
when
is
our
next
meeting.
J
K
K
That's
quite
a
ways
away.
I
I
I
do
wonder
if,
if
two
and
I
suppose
that
meeting
is
planned
to
be
virtual
at
this
point.
A
K
Okay,
well,
I
have
so
council
cummings
and
I
have
agreed
that
rule
five
is
the
place
that
the
update
for
committee
for
committee
members
would
go.
I
think
this
actually,
I
think
the
slightly
more
complicated
place
is
figuring
out
where
the
clerk
would
go
just
permanently.
I
guess
for
the
order
just
for
meetings.
It
makes
sense
to
put
the
clerk
with
us,
but
I
think
we
should
have
an
overall
policy
for
the
clerk
that
mirrors
what
is
going
on
with
staff.
K
Oh
and
my
last
thing
is,
I
wonder
if
we
need
to
include
a
right
now.
I
spoke
to
kelly
or
manager
dan
dursky
dan
dursky
about
this
earlier,
and
it
seems
that
staff's
vaccine
and
testing
regime
mandate
expires
with
the
collective
agree,
collective
bargaining
agreement,
which
is
in
about
a
year-
and
I
wonder
if
this
is
something
in
the
rules-
do
you
want
to
set
a
rule?
You
know
that,
10
years
from
now,
someone's
going
to
look
back
and
think
well,
why
is
this
a
rule?
D
D
K
You
thank
you.
I
do
wonder
if
we
should
just
come
back
to
this
in
a
year
or
so
at
the
same
time
as
the
collective
bargaining
agreements.
Just
to
you
know,
maybe
at
that
point
it's
become
more
we've.
The
vaccines
are,
you
know
more
effective
and
we've
gotten
things
under
control
in
a
year
and
it's
more
like
the
flu,
and
we
don't
require
a
flu
vaccine
or
testing
regime
to
attend
council
meetings
for
committee
members
or
council
members
for
that
matter.
K
So
I
just
wonder
if
we
should
revisit
this
in
in
some
period
of
time.
So
again,
ten
years
from
now,
there
isn't
some
strange
rule
that
people
are
looking
back
at.
A
So
I
have
no
problem
with
any
of
that.
I
I
I
agree
that,
probably
hopefully,
ten
years
from
now
the
world
is
going
to
be
such
that
we
don't
want
the
books,
and
I
have
no
problem
with
building
a
sunset
or
a
visit
point,
and
I
also
I
agree
with
your
point
that
the
city
clerk
is
not
just
someone
who
shows
up
in
the
diocese
once
every
couple
weeks
and
in
many
respects
operates
more
like
a
staff
member.
There.
A
I'd
also
point
out
that
we
only
have
one
city
clerk
and
she
just
disclosed
to
the
public
that
she
is
fully
vaccinated.
So
the
sort
of
enforcement
mechanism
of
the
test
part
of
the
vaccinate
or
test
regime
is
a
little
bit
theoretical.
You
know
as
long
as
as
long
as
that,
individual
remains
our
clerk.
A
I
wonder
if
we
couldn't
quickly
agree
to
pass
something
that
we're
comfortable
applies
properly
to
the
city
council,
to
enable
us
to
have
an
in-person
meeting
on
february
14th
and
at
that
meeting,
make
any
additional
adjustments
or
changes
or
enhancements
that
we
think
might
be
further
necessary.
K
Are
we
not
holding
any
in-person
committee
meetings
until
then
do
we
know
that
that
is
the
case.
A
Well
I'll
turn
that
over
to
mr
connie's,
it's
the
only
demons,
I'm
preferring
not
to
meet
in
person.
Anyways.
C
J
Changed
for
reparations
because
of
the
spike,
but
the
last
few
reparations
committee
meetings
have
been
in
person
at
the
civic
center.
N
N
I
think
we
should
move
forward
as
you
described
and
and
then,
if
we
want
to
discuss
and
prepare
something
for
the
boards
and
commissions
or
any
of
these
other
issues
that
we
can't
deal
with
in
good
order
tonight,
then
we
should
do
that,
but
I
think
in
the
interest
of
the
city
council
being
able
to
meet
in
person,
we
should
do
what's
necessary
for
that
tonight
and
and
the
other
issues
we
should
pick
up
at
the
next
meeting.
A
Is
anyone
else
seeking
to
speak.
L
No,
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
sent
over
the
the
minor
amendment
that
would
just
added
add
in
person
to
the
to
the
resolution,
and
I
think
that
applies
so
yes
to
committees,
but
also
would
add
some
clarity
for
city
council
members.
A
A
motion
council
member
burns
moves
to
amend
8-r-22
to
clarify
that
it
applies
to
in-person
meetings.
The
text
of
that
amendment
is
in
the
inbox
of
every
city,
council
member,
as
well
as
the
corporation
council
and
the
interim
city
manager
council
member,
read
seconds
that
motion.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
amendment
and,
of
course,
folks,
might
you
know
let
me
I'm
going
to
pause
for
about
20
seconds?
It's
good
folks
time
to
read
it
and
make
sure
they
understand
it
before
we
before
we
vote.
A
Seeing
no
see
no
discussion
would
the
clerk.
Please
call
the
role
on
council
member
burns,
amendment
to
item
sp1.
C
C
A
K
Well,
I
don't
know
if
this
is
maybe
the
proper
time,
but
I
guess
I
would
like
to
place
a
special
order
of
business
that
would
create
similar
regulations
for
all
of
our
board
committee
and
committee
commission
members
on
the
next
agenda,
as
well
as
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
provide.
I
I
heard
from
either
kelly
or
nick
just
now
that
our
health
department
is
working
on
securing
chest.
I
think
that's
a
wonderful
use
of
upper
funds.
I
also
wonder
if,
if
we
should
have
kn
95
mass,
I
think
you
know.
K
Vaccines
are
great
and
effective
for
protecting
us
personally,
but
I
wonder
if
kn95
masks
are
really
good
at
protecting
folks
from
other
folks.
You
know
making
sure
that
we're
keeping
whatever
sickness
we
have
to
ourselves,
and
so
I
wonder
if
that
should
be
included
here
as
well,
and
we
should
provide,
can
95
mass
for
these
meetings
showing
that
the
sciences
that
the
cloth
masks
are
not
effective.
A
Okay,
well,
I'm
happy
to.
I
don't
think
that
motion's
in
order
right
now,
because
there's
a
motion
on
the
table,
but
I'm
happy
to
first
of
all,
I'm
happy
to
just
do
that,
but
if
you
prefer
to
do
it
by
vote,
I'm
happy
to
also
call
on
you
as
soon
as
we
complete
voting
on
items.
P1
sure.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
item
sp1,
seeing
none
with
the
clerk.
Please
call
the
role
on
item
sp1,
which
again
recall,
was
amended
by
council
member
burns
to
clarify
that
it
applies.
B
C
A
With
eight
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
the
motion
passes
councilman
did
you
want
to
make
a
motion.
K
Yes,
I
move
that
we
place
the
special
order
of
business
on
the
february
14th
meeting
agenda
that
would
provide
a
testing
and
vaccine
testing
and
or
vaccine
requirement
for
our
board
committee
and
commission
members,
as
well
as
a
requirement
that
mirrors
our
staff
requirement
for
our
city
clerk.
K
And
I
would
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
I'll
put
that
I
would
love
to
see.
You
know
some
opera
funds
or
just
city
funds
used
for
both
kn90
to
make
can
95
mass
available
to
both
committee
members,
council
members
and
the
public
who
are
attending
in
part
in
person
meetings
as
well
as
a
potential
test
for
committee
members,
but
I'll
certainly
put
in
the
can
95
mask.
I
think
we
should
expend
funds
to
provide.
Can
95
mass
for
in-person
meetings.
A
Second,
all
right:
council
member
reed
moves
to
place
an
item
on
the
february
14th
agenda
to
as
a
special
order
of
business
to
establish
a
analogous
mandate
to
what
was
just
passed
for
members
of
boards
committees
and
commissions
to
establish
a
mandate
for
the
city
clerk
that
parallels
the
mandate
for
employees
and
to
provide
can
95
masks
for
in-person
public
meetings.
Let's
say,
council
member
burns
seconds.
C
O
M
Missing
something
this
is
almost
a
bit
performative.
I
think
we're
all
clear
on
the
direction
we
need
to
go.
I
would
I
don't
think
I
need
to
have
to
have
another
round
of
discussion.
Why
don't
we
just
direct
our
staff
to
harmonize
it
across
the
board
and
when
it's
ready
we
can
vote
but
to
vote
to
buy
masks.
I
I'm
just
trying
to
be
protective
of
our
time,
so
I'm
a
no
not
because
I
disagree
just
that.
This
is
a
simple
measure
that
we
can
push
to
our
staff.
L
A
L
L
That
again,
that
was
only
the
the
mask
is
the
only
part
of
the
motion.
I
think
it
makes
it
clear
that
we
want
to
discuss
all
three
items
at
our
next
meeting
as
opposed
to
keeping
it
open,
because
it's
so
straightforward
to
your
point:
councilman
breakway,
if
we're
not
going
to
do
it
today,
which
I
think
was
the
consensus
here,
certainly
among
people
who
who
spoke-
let's
address
it
at
our
next
meeting.
So
I
think
that's
what
this
motion
does.
A
M
E
A
Seven
voting
in
favor
and
one
voting
against
the
motion
passes
and
this
item
will
be
a
special
order
of
business
on
the
february
14
city
council
agenda.
That
brings
us
now
to
item
sp
two
on
our
agenda,
which
is
an
item
for
discussion.
Would
someone
like
to
make
a
motion
to
facilitate
discussion
on
this.
K
I'll
move
item
sp2
or
my
view-
I
don't
know
I
will
move
item
sp2
a
discussion
of
hazard
pay
for
grocery
workers.
A
Second,
council
member
read
moves
item
sp2
council
member
seconds.
You
know
raise
your
hand
if
you
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
discussion
I'll
start
by
asking
councilman
reed
if
he
wants
to
make
an
introduction
or
provide
any
opening
comments.
K
Yeah
I'll
certainly
ask
staff
to
walk
us
through
some
of
the
research
that
the
law
department
did
a
bit,
but
again
what
I'm
looking
at
looking
to
solve
here
is
a
few
months
ago
we
put
forward
a
a
hazard,
pay
bill
and
the
council
at
the
time
given
where
we
thought
things
were
heading
decided
to
reject
that
bill.
As
we
have
seen,
conditions
have
changed.
K
K
You
know,
based
on
you,
know,
chicago
public
schools
closing
temporarily
because
of
the
rise
of
omerkron,
which
certainly
has
had
an
impact
on
workers
in
evanston
the
you
know
there
is
the
potential
for
for
our
schools
to
do
that
at
some
point,
and
so
with
that,
I
think
we
should
there's
a
version
of
the
hazard
pay
bill
in
the
agenda
now.
K
I
think
we
should
adopt
this
for
a
version
of
it
for
future
emergencies
that
occur
where
our
workers
are
either
putting
themselves
an
increased
hazard
or
an
increased
or
a
mix
of
increased
hazard
and
increased
burden.
Due
to,
as
I
said,
potentially,
schools
closing
and
increased
child
care
costs,
and
I
think
that
burden
should
not
be
on
the
city
to
provide
that,
but
I
think
all
the
employers,
you
know
that
are
that
are
providing
essential
services.
K
K
I
saw
some
information
that
was
sent
out
earlier
that
dnd
dogs
was
included
as
someone
that
staff
asked
whether
or
not
they
had
done
hazard
pay
at
all
and
d
d
dog
would
not
be
affected
by
this,
as
I
do
not
believe
they
have
over
500
employees,
and
this
would
only
impact
again
large
grocery
retailers
and
not
small.
J
Again,
members
of
city
council,
mayor
bis,
clerk,
mendoza
city
manager,
university
manager,
gudersky
nicholas
cummings,
corporation
council.
The
law
department
did
get
an
update
on
some
of
the
litigation
that
was
pending
at
the
time.
The
last
time
the
city
council
considered
this
ordinance
and
most
of
the
litigation,
if
not
all,
of
it
actually
favors
the
governing
body
that
issued
such
an
ordinance.
The
only
question
that
the
law
department
has
not
been
able
to
find
an
answer
for
is
this
is
the
only
this
is.
J
This
will
be
the
only
instance
where
we
found
an
ordinance
very,
very
narrow
in
scope,
so,
for
example,
the
previous
the
other
lawsuits
that
we
researched
dealt
with
all
or
a
greater
number
of
businesses
of
a
certain
size
and
not
just
specifically
grocers.
J
I
I
don't
know
that
I
can't
answer
with
any
sort
of
reasonable
clarity.
If,
if
that
would
be
an
issue
with
respect
to
equal
protection,
I
don't
believe
that
it
would
be
the
court
in
the
federal
court
in
one
of
the
and
one
of
the
cases.
I
believe
it
was
california
and
I'm
sorry
it
was
seattle.
J
The
federal
court
rejected
an
equal
protection
claim
with
respect
to
bearing
it
only
to
grocery
stores,
so
I
believe
that
it
would
still
be
a
valid
ordinance,
but
I
can't
say
with
any
certainty
and
again
this
has
not
been
done
yet
in
illinois,
although
there
is
no
law
in
illinois
that
says
that
this
would
be
an
overreaching
exercise
of
the
city's
homeworld
authority.
We
have
been
unable
to
find
anything
definitively.
That
says
either
way
that
this
that
it's
either
granted
or
anything
like
that.
J
So
if
the
city
council
decides
it
wants
to
go
this
way,
we
can
say
that
it's
likely
that
it
would
would
stand
up
based
upon
the
research
that
we
have,
but
we
can't
say
with
any
certainty
because
it
hasn't
been
tested
in
our
particular
area
just
yet.
This
is
mostly
something
that's
gone
on.
The
ninth
circuit
on
the
west
coast
generally.
K
And
if
I
can
just
add,
this
is
modeled
after
the
seattle
bill,
and
so
it's
been
sort
of
to
this
point.
It's
been
tested
this
a
very
close
model
to
this,
has
been
tested
in
federal
courts,
albeit
as
mixed
at
a
different
district,
but
in
vogue
courts
and
has
held
up
the
last
thing.
K
I'll
add
is,
I
don't
recall,
seeing
information
about
the
economic
impact
there
is
a
cup
manager
gandursky
also
included
a
zing
city
analysis,
which
shows
that
of
the
folks
who
they're
able
to
get
data
from
majority
are
in
favor
of
this,
but
the
biggest
concern
is
on
the
economic
impact.
And
again
again
I
don't
know
if
staff
has
this,
but
what
we've
seen
in
those
cities
that
have
implemented
it.
K
What
my
research
shows
is
that
there
was
not
some
mass
exodus
of
the
grocery
retailers
or
businesses,
and
it
did
not
cause.
You
know
the
economic
depression
that
folks
were
concerned
about.
So
those
two
major
facts
are
are
addressed.
J
We
we
did
not
have
that
in
this
particular
memo.
It
was
focused
purely
on
the
legal
portion.
So
I
apologize,
however
councilmember
reed's
statement
is
well
taken
and
I
believe
that
the
last
time
we
looked
at
this
certain
retailers
in
the
city
of
evanston
have
paid
like
target
was
one
one
of
them,
as
an
example
had
already
paid
hazard
pay
to
their
employees,
at
least
in
2020.
L
Yeah
I
mean
I,
I
guess
the
question
for
me
on
all
of
this
is
similar
to
even
the
minimum
wage
right
that
creates
this
minimum
standard.
Is
there
should
we
apply
a
minimum
standard
in
circumstances
where
there
is
this
emergency,
where
schools
and
other
institutions
are
saying
to
their
members?
L
Don't
come
to
this
building
because
it's
it's
an
emergency
right,
don't
come
to
this
building
stay
home,
and
yet
still
some
some
of
our
employers
are
saying.
No.
You
still
need
to
go
to
work
because
we'll
have
a
bunch
of
people
at
home
that
still
need
to
to
shop
at
our
businesses
in
particular
because
they
are
home.
In
that
circumstance,
should
we
create
a
minimum
standard
that
says
all
right.
L
If
that
does
take
place,
here's
the
minimum
standard
of
what
you
need
to
pay
people,
on
top
of
you
know
their
regular
hourly
rates,
and
so
that's
that's
the
question
and
whether,
if
we're
willing
to
entertain
it,
I
think
we
should
do
it
now,
especially
knowing
that
some
of
these
some
of
the
legal
challenges
were
not
accepted,
that
we
should
just
try
to
determine
like
if
we
want
to
get
involved
in
that.
L
What
that
mental
standard
looks
like
what
circumstance
would
have
to
present
itself
for
it
to
apply
and
then
make
the
decision
now,
so
that
in
the
future
we
don't
have
to
keep
going
back
and
forth
on
whether
or
not
we're
gonna.
You
know
we're
gonna
provide
hazard
pay
just
what
is
the
identified
hazard
that
we
want
to
say
reaches
that
threshold,
where
we
need
to
to
step
in
and
create
a
minimum
standard,
and
we
either
want
to
get
involved
at
that
level
or
not.
L
M
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
think
my
thoughts
are
consistent.
The
last
time
that
we
brought
this
around-
I
I
I
do
understand
the
gesture
and
and
in
the
goal
of
what
councilmember
reed
is
suggesting
in
council
member
burns,
maybe
for
suggesting
it.
But
my
comments
are
still
the
same.
I
think
all
businesses
right
now
we
realize
that
institutions
are
suffering
from
the
pandemic.
M
I
think
it's
unfair
to
make
assumptions
about
any
industry.
Without
having
that
conversation,
I
challenged
you,
council,
member
reed,
to
have
that
discussion
with
your
stores.
That
would
be
impacted
to
find
out
what
they're
doing.
I
can
tell
you
direct
and
I
take
a
lot
of
pride.
M
First
of
all,
employment
right
now,
it's
it's
an
employee
market,
so
they
have
to
pay
their
employees,
council,
member
reid,
a
higher
wage
just
to
stay,
competitive
and
they're,
constantly
dealing
with
the
battle
of
an
employee
who
will
leave
at
a
moment's
notice
for
a
dollar
extra,
and
so
what
they've
explained
is
in
order
to
maintain
a
consistency.
M
Is
they
do
pay
that
higher
wage
right?
Now?
The
other
interesting
fact
that,
again,
in
order
to
keep
their
food
affordable,
they
are
dealing
with
higher
wages,
they're
also
dealing
with
supply
chain.
I
think
for
any
of
us
both
who
shops
on
the
line
or
council,
like
we've,
all
noticed
that
the
price
of
food
has
gone
up.
M
So
at
the
end
of
the
day,
should
we
pass
this,
which
I
don't
think
makes
sense
to
just
single
out
this
one
industry
is
completely
unfair
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
going
to
end
up
paying
more
than
we're
already
paying,
and
so,
if
the
goal
is
to
impact
those
that
need
the
assistance,
I
would
also
challenge
you
to
think
about
the
residents
who
shop
at
these
stores
and
rely
on
the
affordable
prices.
So
they
can
support
their
families,
so,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I'm
a
definite.
M
No,
I
I
think
it's
a
good
gesture,
but
it's
completely
unfair
and
I
don't
think
it's
the
role
of
our
local
government
to
pass
this
type
of
of
burden
onto
our
businesses,
particularly
when
the
ones
that
I've
spoken
to
share
that
their
businesses
can't
absorb
it
and
and
it
does
put
at
risk
to
really
good
stores
that
provide
affordable
food
for
our
whole
town
and
nearby
suburbs
at
risk
to
if
we
move
forward
with
this.
A
You,
mr
cummings,
you
had
your
hand
up
for
a
while.
J
No,
no!
It's
fine!
I
was
just
gonna
point
out
that
previously
this
was
tied
to
the
phases
of
the
state.
I
don't
foresee
the
governor
taking
us
be
out
of
phase
five,
so
it
would
need
to
be
amended
to
council
member
byrne's
point
to
when
this
would
be
triggered.
That
would
be
up
for
the
council
to
determine
when
it
would
be
triggered
because
it
wouldn't
it
couldn't
be
tied
to
the
phases
anymore.
L
I
was
just
gonna
quickly
say
or
or
it
could
that's.
My
point
is
that
we
don't
have
to
I'm
not
thinking
about
this
in
something
that
has
to
apply
today.
Right
now
and
I
may
differ
from
councilman
reid
in
that
I'm
just
saying
if
there
has
been
a
period
at
any
point
during
this
pandemic,
where
we
feel
that
it
would
have
been
helpful
for
government
to
step
in
and
create
that
minimum
standard.
L
During
these
emergencies
and
and
and
during
hazardous
times
for
our
employees,
then
we
should
establish
it.
We
don't
have
to
make
this
policy
work
for
now
we
could
tie
it
to
the
phases
and
if
we
ever
go
back
to
one
of
those
phases
it
would
apply,
but
at
least
we
know
how
we
would
deal
with
that
in
the
future.
K
A
Is
no
no
all
right,
so
then,
council
member
agreed,
in
that
case.
K
Yes,
with
that
in
mind,
you
know
I
I
certainly
agree.
I
I
it
wouldn't
be
tied
to
the
previous
phases
that
was
very
specific
to
that
period
of
time.
I
think
the
the
what
I'm,
what
I
envision
tying
it
to
is
emergency
declarations
by
the
governor,
the
mayor
or
local
school
closings
in
our
area
you
know
65
202
or
the
larger
one
next
to
us,
and
so
I
think
that
those
would
be
what
would
trigger
this.
K
So
I
think
even
you
know
in
my
eyes
a
terrible
blizzard
that
impacted
the
city
for
a
few
days
where
maybe
schools
were
closed,
but
grocery
workers
still
had
to
go
to
work
and
had
to
find
child
care,
and
all
of
these
you
know,
burdens
that
are
in
the
hazard
of
traveling
through
that
snow,
to
go
to
work,
to
ensure
that
you
know
the
folks
who
need
to
get
groceries
have
access
to
that.
You
know
my
vision
is
that
this
would
apply
to
that
as
well
as
well
as
the
colgate
19.
K
If
we
some
new,
whatever
the
last
letter
in
the
greek,
the
alphabet
is,
I
should
know,
but
you
know
if
that
comes
up
you
know,
then
that's
a
bad
variant
that
you
know
we're
prepared
for
that,
and
we
don't
have
to
have
this
discussion
again
and
I
think
it's
really
sad.
You
know
that
you
know
someone
like
mr
vasoco
looks
at
this
body
and-
and
I
think
this
might
be
shared
amongst
more
people
that
looks
this
body
and
says
we
do
not
care
about
our.
K
You
know
low-wage
our
front-line
workers
and
that's
not
the
vision
that
I
have
of
our
city.
That's
not
the
vision.
I
want
residents
and
our
workers
to
look
at
this
government
and
think
that
we
do
not
care
about
them.
You
know,
because
you
know
we're
not
willing
to
pay
a
penny
extra.
I
mean
if
we
think
about
what
this
means.
K
You
know
you
pay
a
penny
more,
maybe
maybe
for
your
your
bag
of
rice,
because
you
know
we're
giving
workers
a
two
to
four
dollar
hazard
pay
bonus
during
times
where
they're
working
in
extreme
hazard.
A
I
was
just
going
to
fly
that
your
time
your
time
is
up
and
council
member
wynn
is
next.
N
I
I
did
want
to
address
this
because
I
did
speak
out
on
this
before
I
think,
for
the
reasons
that
council
member
braithwaite
has
raised
which
were
raised
before,
which
is
that
these
are
these:
are
businesses
in
our
community
that
we
really
value,
even
though
they
may
have
500
employees,
they
do
provide
very
good
service
and
they
employ
a
lot
of
evanstonians
and
absent
having
a
serious
discussion
with
them.
I
can't
support
this
because
I
haven't
heard
their
viewpoint
on
this.
N
They
it's
we
take
into
consideration
all
stakeholders
when
we
make
decisions
like
this,
and
I
don't
think
they
have
had
the
opportunity
to
come
forward
and
have
a
discussion
with
us
on
the
issue
of
making
this
some
kind
of
a
a
blanket
hazard
pay
looking
forward.
N
I
don't
think
that
that's
good
policy,
this
hazard
pay,
has
been
carefully
tailored
to
the
specifics
of
this
emergency
and
I
don't
know
how
we
would
determine
what
the
next
hazard
would
be.
I
don't
I
blizzards
are
bad,
but
what
is
a
bad
blizzard?
You
know.
We
know
that
over
near
the
lakefront
we
can
get
four
feet
of
snow,
whereas
out
at
the
edens,
it's
maybe
six
or
eight
inches.
N
That's
I
I
think
we're
trying
to
predict
the
future
in
a
way
that
is
casting
the
net
way
way
too
wide.
So
I
I
would
not
be
able
to
support
some
vague
idea
of
what
a
future
hazard
is.
I
think
that's
not
good
policy.
So,
for
the
reasons
that
I
stated,
I
am
I'm
not
going
to
support
this
tonight.
K
What
point
of
order
or
report
of
information?
Mr
mayor,
to
be
clear?
I
forget
what
the
term
is
a
strongman
argument.
Sorry,
I,
the
the
what
I
stated
there
is
this:
isn't
a
vague
or
a
wide
net
that's
being
cast.
I
think
I
very
clearly
said
that
this
would
be
tied
to
emergency
declarations,
as,
as
I
said
in
council
member
burns,
I
think
said
as
well
that
you
know
this
is
when
we
are
saying
right
now.
K
We
know,
there's
an
emergency,
we're
not
physically
in
a
building,
we're
not
coming
to
go
sit
next
to
each
other
and
and
smile
at
each
other,
a
few
feet
away,
because
we
understand
there's
an
emergency,
and
so
when
there's
an
emergency
declaration
by
the
governor,
the
mayor
or
our
schools
are
closed,
which
are
clear,
defined
emergencies
not
just
a
few
feet
of
snow.
Not
just
you
know
whatever
it's
there's
something
at
a
government
order
in
place.
That
is
when
this
would
kick
him.
K
Is
the
is
the
step
to
does
this
automatically
move
forward
to
the
next
meeting
for
introduction?
That
was,
you
know
what
we
had.
The
discussion
that
we
had
before
is
that
we're
going
to
put
this
on
for
discussion,
so
we
could
have
three
readings
of
it.
You
know
that
would
allow
that
time
that
council
member
went
and
others
are
looking
to
talk
to
our
businesses,
and
I
often
hear
businesses
brought
up
as
folks.
We
need
to
talk
to
I've,
never
heard
workers.
K
The
actual
people
who
make
the
businesses
run
broad
up
as
folks
that
we
need
to
talk
to.
So
I'm
just
wondering
do
we
need
to
vote
to
move
this
for
introduction
at
the
next
meeting
or
yeah?
This.
A
Will
not
automatically
appear
on
the
agenda
as
it
currently
stands,
and
so
I
see
a
hand.
Councilman
kelly's
hand
is
up.
P
A
J
I
was
going
to
say
if
you
want
to
explain
mr
mayor,
you
can
go
ahead.
I
was
off.
I
was
volunteering
to
help
out,
essentially
because
it
was
brought
as
a
special
order,
older
business.
J
You
know
we
as
a
discussion
item
we
would,
as
staff
would
need
direction
as
to
where
it
should
go
next,
you
guys
can
send
it
refer
to
a
particular
committee
if
you'd
like,
or
it
can
come
back
to
this
body,
but
even
if
it
comes
back
to
this
body,
it
would
still
come
through
some
committee
before
it
actually
appears
on
this
council
agenda
unless
it
comes
back
as
a
special
order
business,
which
will
require
a
vote
similar
to
the
one
you
just
had
about
setting
additional
rules
for
our
board's
commission
committees.
J
So
if
the
direction
is
for
us
to
bring
you
a
draft,
it
will
still
likely
go
to
some
committee,
I'm
not
clear
which
one
I
don't
know
if
it
will
go
to
p
d
or
rules
or
even
apw.
J
However,
it
would
probably
go
through
a
committee
first
and
before
it
comes
back
to
city
council
like
other
ordinances.
In
this
instance,
council
member.
A
L
Yeah
I
mean
I
I
wouldn't
mind
seeing
this
go
to
a
committee.
If
I've
understood
like
what
committee
people
come
out
of
the
development
next
sense,
because
what
I,
what
I,
what
I
don't
think
is
appropriate,
is
to
just
apply
kind
of
arbitrary
requests
for
involvement
from
any
stakeholder
group
without
really
describing
how
that
would
work.
L
And
so,
if
we,
when
every
time
we
set
up
for
now
on,
if
we're
saying
hey,
that's
it's
go
to
a
committee,
and
that
is
the
space
where
we're
going
to
formally
invite
businesses
in
this
case,
but
stakeholder
groups
to
participate
in
the
discussion
they
break.
But.
L
I
don't
get
collecting
feedback.
That
individually
is
the
way
to
get
feedback.
Having
customer
briefly
having
his
own
conversations
with
businesses
and
reid
having
his
own,
I
don't
think
is
a
productive
way
to
to
get
that
feedback.
So
again,
I
would
certainly
I
don't
mind
making
a
referral
for
this
to
go
to
the
economic
development
committee
or
I'm
making
a
multiple
economic
development
community.
I.
L
Councilmember
brazilian
councilman,
when
anybody
else
that
holds
that
opinion
that
we
need
to
to,
we
need
to
hear
from
our
business
community
which
I'll
share
that
opinion,
that
that
is
the
venue
where
that
can
happen
and
that
we're
going
to
invite
businesses
to
participate
in
the
discussion
to
attend
meetings
to
share
their
opinion
with
the
with
the
entire
committee,
as
opposed
to
just
on
one-off
conversations.
A
Yeah,
I
I
would
say
I
mean
my
own
take
is,
and
I
know
it's
kind
of
weird,
I'm
the
guy
who's,
not
on
committees
but
but
yeah.
I
think
that's
the
purpose
of
the
committee
process
to
have
those
more
serious
engaged
processes
with
stakeholders
and
and
allow
everybody
to
to
have.
You
know
the
same
information
from
the
same
people
and
and
make
their
own
decisions
based
on
a
share
of
whoa
everybody
based
on
a
shared
set
of
facts.
A
So
I
think
you
know
to
the
extent
that
that's
what
folks
think
is
the
appropriate
way
to
handle
an
issue
of
this
complexity.
I
would
say:
yeah.
I
would
suggest
a
motion
to
send
it
to
a
committee
rather
than
bringing
it
back
as
a
special
order
of
business
for
a
vote,
because
I
think
then
we're
back
on
the
same
treadmill
where
we
get
back
here
and
everyone's
had
their
one-off
conversations,
and
I
think
that
that
winds
up
pretty
frustrating
for
folks.
A
A
Seeing
none,
please
call
the
rule.
M
E
B
Right
here,
council
member
revell,
council
member
reid.
A
Hi,
so
on
this
matter
there
are
four
voting
in
favor
and
three
voting
opposed,
and
I'm
almost
sure
that
this
is
the
kind
of
vote
where
a
simple
majority
is
adequate.
So
I
believe
a
four
to
three
vote
constitutes
passage.
Mr
cummings,
can
you
just
make
sure
I'm
not
freelancing
here
on
the
procedure,
or
at
least
not
freelancing
incorrectly
on
procedure?
J
A
Of
the
numbers
on
the
roll
was
stepped
away.
Okay,
yes,
it
just
requires
a
single
majority
vote,
all
right
so
with
with
four
voting
in
favor
and
three
voting
against
this
item.
The
motion
passes.
The
item
has
been
referred
to
the
economic
development
committee
for
further
further
discussion
and
study.
A
A
My
understanding
was
that
there
was
an
item
on
the
png
agenda
that
did
not
did
not
come
up
for
a
vote.
Is
that
correct?
Actually,
yes,.
L
A
K
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
questions
about
this,
so
r1.
A
C
A
Right,
but
I
think
we
have
to
remove
it
from
the
consent
agenda,
just
okay,
because
it
still
appears
it
appears
on
the
agenda
that
was
released
to
the
public.
So
if
we
don't
remove
it,
okay,
it
will
be
as
though
we're
trying
to
pass
the
thing
that
never
even
really
got
here,
which
presents
a
metaphysical
challenge.
I'm
not
prepared.
A
Seeing
none,
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
pass
the
consent
agenda.
Save
those
four
items.
A
B
A
We.
The
first
item
we
pulled
off
is
p1,
which
is
charabelle
indicated,
is,
is
not
not
going
to
come
up
for
a
vote
tonight,
a
council
so
that
moves
us
to
r1
chair
read.
Would
you
like
to
make
a
motion
regarding
r1
yeah.
K
I'll
move,
adoption
of
adoption
of
resolution
seminar,
22
amending
the
city
code
rule
14.3
to
require
the
mayor
to
announce
mayoral
veto
at
the
city
council
meeting
immediately
following
a
issuance
of
a
veto.
K
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
note
for
folks
yeah,
I'm
sorry.
I
just
want
to
know
for
folks
that
this
simply
requires
the
mayor
to
announce
vito,
it's
pretty
straightforward
in
the
case
that
one
is
entered,
so
there's
no
confusion
between
something
that
was
passed
at
council
and
then
seemingly
adopted
and
then
later
on,
you
know
vetoed
it.
K
It
should
be
made
clear
to
both
the
council
and
the
public
when
that
is
done,
to
provide
additional
clarity
on
the
actions
of
the
government
and
we
adopted
this
in
rules
and
so
looking
forward
to
adopting
it
again.
N
B
Councilmember
usma
councilmember
burns
hi
councilmember
suffer
didn't.
Let
me
know
he
will
not
be
here.
He
had
to
step
off
councilmember
revell
I
and
council
member
reed
all
right.
A
Seven
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
item
r1
passes,
and
that
brings
us
to
our
two
cherry.
Would
you
like
to
make
a
motion.
K
Yeah
I'll
move
ordinance,
nine
zero;
I'm
sorry,
9
0
22
amending
title
2
chapter
17
of
that
evanston
city
code
to
allow
members
of
the
reparations
committee
to
receive
benefits
from
the
reparations
funded.
A
K
Yes,
I
just
want
to
provide
clearly
I'm
sorry.
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
provide
clarity.
I
think,
because
I
think
this
is
important.
Reparations
is
important,
making
sure
that
the
community
is
on
the
same
page
with
us,
with
reparations
as
much
as
possible
is
important,
so
I
just
want
to
take
a
second
to
explain
why
I'm
supporting
this
and
again
reparations.
K
You
know
if
we're
going
to
say
that
members
of
the
reparations
committee
are
conflicted
from
serving
on
that
committee
and
receiving
a
benefit.
Then
everyone
from
the
planned
commission
from
the
arts
council
from
anything
that
deals
with
public
works.
We
all
benefit
for
are
detrimented
by
our
zoning
code.
By
our
you
know,
any
of
the
public
works
that
we
do,
and
you
know
so.
I
think
one.
The
idea
that
folks
who
are
on
this
committee
couldn't
receive
a
benefit
from
the
work
of
this
committee
doesn't
necessarily
apply.
K
It's
not
direct
payments
to
someone's
business
or
we're
given
contracts,
we're
creating
a
code,
a
structure
for
you
know,
transparently,
delivering
repair
to
a
certain
number
of
folks
who
meet
a
certain
criteria
that
has
been
developed
before
the
creation
of
this
committee,
and
I
also
think
particularly
with
reparations
work
with
equity
work.
K
You
want
the
folks
who
are
most
directly
impacted
by
a
harm
to
be
leading
the
efforts
to
correcting
the
harm,
and
so
I
think
it
you
know,
makes
sense
to
have
folks
who
are
directly
impacted
and
who
would
potentially,
you
know,
fall
into
that
ancestor
or
even
descendant
category
making
this
this
rule,
I
mean
I
am
a
descendant
under
the
reparations.
I've
not
applied
reparations,
but
should
I
be
conflicted
off
of
the
committee
because
this
you
know
I
could
potentially
benefit
from
this.
K
I
think
alderman
braithwaite
as
well
as
would
meet
the
direct
ascendant
criteria
as
well
as
former
alderman
russ
simmons.
I
think
it's
important
to
have
folks
who
meet
that
criteria
leading
and
particularly
when
we're
talking
about
seniors
who
have
faced
this
kind
of
racial
discrimination,
it's
important
to
have
them
in
the
driver's
seating.
I
very
much
value
our
seniors
and
ancestors
who
are
serving
on
this
committee,
so
I
hope
we
can.
I
know
we're
going
to
adopt
this,
but
I
hope
the
community
can
understand
that
this
is
not
some
ethical
conflict.
K
A
Thank
you,
mr
cummings.
Just.
J
Wanted
to
also
inform
the
public
councilmember
reed
asked
the
law
department
the
implications
of
the
state
law.
With
respect
to
this,
so
we
had
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
Research.
After
the
rules
committee,
there
is
no
implication
of
state
law
in
terms
of
a
conflict
of
interest.
The
the
benefits
would
be
available
to
any
member
of
the
community
that's
eligible,
just
as
it
is
available
to
members
of
the
committee.
So
there
would
be
no
issue.
J
J
When
it
comes
to
like
city
contracts
or
anything
like
that,
simply
cannot
be
the
person
to
actually
vote
in
favor
of
that
receiving
that
benefit,
and
so
councilmember
reid
asked
us
to
look
into
that.
We
did
and
there
is
no
implication
for
state
law.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
provide
some,
hopefully
some
some
clarity
and
simplify
it,
and
that
I
think
sometimes
these
conflicts
are
applied
a
lot
more
stricter
than
they're
meant
to
so
in
many
cases,
in
most
cases
the
conflict
doesn't
prohibit
you
from
participating
in
the
body.
It
just
means
you
need
to
disclose
any
conflicts
right
and
recuse
yourself
appropriately.
L
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
plainly
that
that's
all
that's
being
done
here
again
in
most
cases,
if
not
all,
but
certainly
in
most
there's
not
many
conflicts
that
could
prohibit
you
from
participating
in
in
in
the
body.
It
just
means
you
need
to
disclose
it
and
recuse
yourself
when
appropriate.
So
that's
all
that's
being
done
here.
Thank
you.
P
Yeah,
so
as
I
expressed
in
rules,
I
I
just
think
you
know
it's
so
important.
Reparations
is
so
incredibly
important
that
locally
statewide
and
nationally
and
since
we're
you
know,
setting
ground
front
on
this.
It's
so
important
that
we,
you
know,
exercise
the
utmost
due
diligence
in
in
ensuring
you
know
the
highest
levels
of
ethical
standards
and
transparency
and
process.
P
So
I
would
just
ask,
maybe
go
and
bobby
to
your
point.
You
know
I
agree.
Disclosure
recusal
is
in
a
sense,
you're
sort
of
removing
yourself
from
a
certain
process.
So
I
just
I
think
that
maybe
going
forward,
it
might
be
worth
I'm
going
to
vote
for
this.
I
support
this,
but
I
do
think
going
forward.
There
might
be
a
tighter
way
to
do
this.
P
To
make
this,
I
think,
a
stronger
process,
and
I
also
think
I
also
have
questions
regarding
I
I
think
we
need
to
be
as
transparent
as
possible
regarding
those
selected,
it's
just
so
important.
This
is
so
important,
I
believe
so
deeply
in
reparations.
P
I
don't
want
to
see
this
fail,
so
I
ask
that
we
really
examine
this
deeply
to
see
how
we
can
strengthen
this
going
forward
and
look
at
really
the
the
selection
process
and
who's
on
the
committee,
and
I
I
don't
think
it's
wonderful
we've
moved
forward
on
this,
but
I
don't
think
it
means
we
have
to
necessarily
going
forward.
You
know,
adhere
and
stick
to
what
we've
started
it
should.
It
should
evolve
in
a
way,
that's
healthy
and
that
strengthens
our
reparations
program.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
burns
hands
back
up,
but
first
I
want
to
see.
Is
there
anybody
who
hasn't
yet
spoken?
Who
wanted
to
engage
in
this
discussion?
A
Seeing
none
councilmember
burns
for
second
round?
He.
L
Just
wanted
to
respond
to
councilman
kelly
in,
like
in
any
other
case,
repeat,
recusal
is
needed
for
a
specific
question
where
you
are
conflicted
out
directly
so
again,
as
I
think
council
cummings
mentioned.
If
if
there
was
a
question
on
whether
or
not
if
there
was
a
vote
or
whether
or
not
committee
member
reparations
committee,
member
should
receive
or
would
receive
a
benefit.
L
If
that
was
the
question
before
the
committee,
that
would
be
different
like
if
you
know,
but
one,
that's
not
how
at
least
in
this
first
round
these
benefits
are
being
decided,
but
in
that
circumstance
the
committee
member
will
recuse
himself
but
not
withdraw
themselves
from
the
entire
body.
L
That's
like
I
mean
even
council
members
here,
you
know
have
recused
themselves
on
certain
specific
questions,
but
they
didn't
withdraw
themselves
from
the
entire
body,
so
I'm
just
saying
just
cause
for
that,
which
is
what
I've
heard
from
community
members
doesn't
really
line
up
to
the
way
you
know
we
we
handle
conflicts
and
evidence
and
most,
if
not
all,
bodies
handle
conflicts.
C
L
A
L
Make
the
motion
I
removed
it:
approval
of
renewal
contract
for
landlord
tenant
services
with
metropolitan
tenants
organization
and
lawyers
committee
for
better
housing
for
january
1
2022
through
december
31st
2022
is.
A
L
Yeah
I
removed
this.
We
had
a
discussion
about
this
in
the
I
think
it's
acdc,
I
always
forget
what
that
stands
for
councilman
level.
You
might
be
to
help
me
out
housing.
L
And
community
development
committee
there
it
is
and
and
so
what
I've
noticed
is
that
one
voice,
which
is
the
most
important
voice
in
this
decision,
is
missing,
which
is
tenants
we
haven't
conducted
any
you
know,
surveys
of
sentence
and,
and
I
and
I
I
don't
think
the
mto
has
has
done
so
either,
although
even
if
they
had.
I
think
it
makes
more
sense
for
us
to
conduct
those
surveys
ourselves
and
what
I
and
sarah-
and
I
have
talked
about
this.
Sarah
flax
and
I've
talked
about
this.
L
What
I'm
proposing-
and
I
didn't
know
whether
or
not
I
should
do
it
within
this
motion
or
separate
but
what's
happening,
is
when
someone
calls
in
the
311
and
says
hey.
I
have
a
landlord
it's
in
the
dispute,
we're
not
capturing
who
that
person
is
and
how
we
can
get
in
touch
with
him.
We're
immediately
forwarding
that
person
over
to
mto
and
so
we're
losing
that
opportunity
to
capture
that
information.
So
we
could.
L
Event
reach
out
and
and
ask
them
some
questions
about
the
quality
of
of
the
program,
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
just
really.
I
think
we
should
do
this
in
any
similar
situation
where
we
contract
out
for
this
type
of
for
similar
work,
but
at
least
for
this.
For
now,
if
we
can
just
provide
some
clear
direction
that
we
would
like
you
know,
just
basic
information,
first
name
last
name,
email
and
best
contact
phone
to
be
included
when
people
to
be
captured.
L
You
know
at
the
moment
that
the
tenant
is
requesting
support
from
our
311
team
that
we
captured
really
quickly,
and
then
we
make
the
the
referral
to
mto
or
or
whoever
we're
contracting
with
it
at
that
time.
So
again
I
met
mayor
to
reach
out
to
you
about
this.
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
motion,
I
want
to
make
sure
the
reason
why
I
thought
it
might
be
emotion
is.
L
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
just
becomes
standard
policy
that
it's
a
few
years
from
now
that
we
start
doing
things
differently,
because
again
we're
missing
opportunities
to
to
get
really
good
feedback.
So
again,
I'm
happy
to
make
a
motion
on
this
and
sarah.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
jump
in,
but
we
talked
about
this
and
she's
in
support
and
basically
be
helpful
to
do
this.
O
Sure,
if
I
could
just
say
a
couple
of
things,
thank
you
council,
member
burns
and
thank
you
mayor,
biss
and
other
council
members
and
clerk
mendoza.
We
have
been
talking
about
getting
it's
a
quality
control
and
it's
making
sure
that
we're
actually
addressing
the
things
that
people
need
and
we
do
get
some
some
of
the
people
who
contact
311
are
actually
put
through
a
regular
311
request.
O
You
know
through
the
system
and
we
do
capture
either
their
phone
number
or
their
email,
sometimes
both
so
we
have
some
of
them,
but
but
a
number
are
just
you
know,
literally
transferred.
O
I
talked
with
john
bartlett,
who
is
very
much
fine
with
us
wanting
to
do
follow-up
research,
and
he
said
that
he
could
certainly
help
by
providing
the
contact
information
they
have
for
the
people
who
were
from
evanston
as
well.
So
we
could
work
it
two
ways,
but
I
think
that
council
member
burns
thought
that
we
should
just
always
try
to
get
a
basic
name
phone
number,
and
maybe
an
email
could
be
a
very
helpful
thing
and
it
would
allow
us
to
get
do
better,
ongoing
surveys.
O
Kind
of
like
how
you
know
sometimes
you're
on
a
helpline
or
something
like
that,
and
they
say
hey
if
you
were
you
know,
would
you
when
you
finish
your
being
taken
care
of,
be
willing
to
do
a
quick
survey?
You
know
a
lot
of
us
say
no,
but
it
is
an
ongoing
way
that
people
can
get
you
know,
feedback
and
and
and
make
sure
that
the
process
is
going
well.
O
So
we
really
want
to
try
to
do
something
along
those
lines,
and
I
think
that
it
is
better
if
the
city
can
take
on
the
responsibility
for
for
doing
the
follow-up
and
and
not
expect
that
of
the
mto
or
any
other
nonprofit
that
we
might
be
working
with
that
we
want
to
do
this
kind
of
just.
You
know
check
to
see
how
our
services
are
and
are
they
taking
care
of
people.
Q
Q
I
guess
I
see
that
as
a
city
process
issue
that
we
can
do
that
we
should
do,
but
it's
independent
of
the
motion
before
us,
which
is
to
renew
the
contract
with
mto
for
the
tenant
landlord
services.
So
I
we
could
make,
you
know,
approve
the
vote
on
the
contract
and
then
also
if
we
need,
if
we
need
a
motion,
I
don't
know
that
a
motion
is
needed
to
direct
city
staff
to
set
up
a
process,
but
I
I
guess
I
see
them
as
complementary,
but
but
separate
issues.
A
L
L
Serve
with
me
on
on
some
other
committee,
these
committees,
I'm
big
on
data,
because
it
allows
us
to
to
really
take
better
action
on
these
decisions
right
now,
because
let
me
color
this,
for
you
we're
being
asked
to
extend
a
contract,
and
we
haven't
heard
from
the
very
group
that
is
impacted
by
whether
or
not
mto
continues
to
provide
this.
These
services
we
haven't
heard
from
them
at
all,
and
one
could
say,
that's
a
good
thing
right.
L
G
L
Heard
folks
in
my
residence
say
they
they
stop
interacting
with
the
city
and
reaching
out
if
they
get
disheartened
by
certain
things
that
I
was
talking
to
a
gentleman
another
day.
Who
said,
I
don't
even
call
the
city
about
property
standards
issues
I
just
feel
like
it
won't
be
addressed.
So
I
don't
think
we
should
assume
that,
because
we're
not
hearing
anything
from
residents
that
everything
is
fine,
we
should
really
have
a
process
and
not
just
for
this
particular
contract,
but
being
all
contracts
that
impact
residents
directly.
L
We
should
hear
from
them
so
so
we
can
evaluate
what
they're
saying
before
we
make
approve
contract
extensions.
I'm
certainly
happy
to
approve
this
today,
but
I
brought
it
up
now
because
I
really
would
like
that
to
see
that
in
place.
So
I
would
have
the
confidence
to
know
when
this
comes
back
or
a
similar
contract
comes
back,
that
that
it
will
be
a
requirement
moving
forward
that
we
have
some
information
from
the
groups
that
are
directly
impacted.
K
Yes,
I
just
want
to
second
what
council
member
burns
is
saying.
I
think
we
do
need
to
reaching
out
to
vulnerable
and
impacted
communities.
I
also
want
to
state
that,
especially
you
know,
to
heighten
his
point
that
especially
we're
talking
about
folks
who
are
dealing
with
these
kind
of
rental
issues
that
we
know
tend
to
be
lower.
Income
tend
to
be
folks
who
are
struggling.
These
are
the
folks
who
are
least
likely
just
in
the
first
place,
to
reach
out
to
government.
K
So
I
think
we
should
do
special
care
to
make
sure
that
we're
actually
particularly
spending
this
kind
of
money
that
we're
actually
getting
a
good
bang
for
the
service.
So
I
have
had
some
residents
in
my
ward,
who
have
you
know,
had
mixed
bag
experiences,
good
good
assistance
from
our
partners
and
then
also
not
so
great,
but
I
think
we
need
to
do
a
city-wide
and
institution-wide
survey
of
this
to
get
real
understanding.
P
Yeah,
so
I
agree,
I
I
also
want
to
second
that
it's
really
important
that
we
it's
part
of
the
problem
when
you
outsource-
and
I
know
you
know
these
agencies
are
doing
great
job,
but
we
we
need
to
keep
our
finger
on
the
pulse
of
the
conditions
of
the
tenants,
and
so
I
agree
you
should
be.
We
need
to
get
thorough
reports
to
effectively
represent.
A
Thank
you.
I
guess
the
question
is
whether
there's
a
constructive
motion
to
be
made
now
and
whether
what
impact
it
would
have
you
know,
I
don't
think
we
have
the
tools
to
pass
an
ordinance
off
the
top
for
our
head,
changing
our
procurement
process.
A
A
D
May
or
if
I
may
yeah,
my
staff
is
pretty
confident
that
we
can.
We
can
report
back
and
we
can
get
this
model
set
up.
So
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
staff
could
be
given
the
opportunity
to
do
that
before
we
start
trying
to
pass
further
ordinances.
O
Well,
we're
kind
of
swamped
right
now,
but
I'd
rather
not
want
to
be
back
at
the
next
meeting,
but
probably
at
the
following
one.
You
know
two
meetings
and
just
because
I
mean
we've
got
to
talk
to
sue
pontorelli
and
her
troops
and
and
then
I
also
want
to
talk
about
things
like
how
might
we,
depending
on
the
number
of
contacts
we
have
in
total?
How
might
we
institute
an
ongoing
and
regular
follow-up,
because
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
realize
is
you
know
it's
not
like.
O
We
get
a
million
calls
a
day.
We,
you
know,
get
with
mto
someplace
in
the
neighborhood
of
35
to
40
cases
a
month,
and
so
it's
not
going
to
be
immediately
conclusive
and
things
change
over
periods
of
times.
You
know
I
mean
we've
seen
very
a
lot
of
different
maintenance
used
to
be
our
single
biggest,
always
the
thing
that
people
were
calling
about.
They
had
maintenance
problems.
How
would
they
get
you
know
them
taken
care
of,
and
then
you
know
during
the
pandemic,
we've
had
a
whole
lot
of
things
relating
to.
O
How
do
I
keep
from
what
I
do
if
I
can't
pay
my
rent
and
all
sorts
of
very
different
things,
and
you
know
how
can
I
keep
from
being
evicted?
So
I
think
that
we'll
have
to
sort
of
do
this
for
a
regular
period
of
time.
We're
also
not
going
to
get
everybody
to
respond.
We've
talked
about
probably
using
text
messaging.
If
we
can
that's
been
a
very
successful
thing
with
getting
in
touch
with
a
lot
of
people,
many
of
our
lower
income
residents.
O
Don't
have
unlimited
data
packages,
they're,
not
real,
big
on
doing
emails
and
stuff
all
the
time,
and
they
don't
always
want
to
use
their
phone
message.
You
know
they're,
just
their
phone
usage
either,
so
we've
got
to
expand.
We've
got
to
we've
got
to
really
see
what
how
we
can
get
to
them,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
tools
through
our
311
system
that
we
can
do
surveys
from.
A
D
O
I
don't
think
we'll
see
enough
change
week
to
week
to
make
that
of
any
real
value,
but
you
know
I
mean,
would
it
be
great
to
have
more
than
just
skip
one
meeting
a
little
more
time?
That
would
be
great,
but
you
know
I
think
it's
a
question
of
how
urgently
you
want
this
addressed.
L
L
It
could
be
kind
of
interesting
implemented
as
soon
as
staff
is
ready.
I
I
would.
It
is
important
to
be
in
council
conversation
online
that
that
we
come
up
with
some.
You
know
language
war,
where
code
change
can
be
made.
My
experience
has
been
and-
and
you
know
folks
can
speak
for
itself
as
to
why,
but
sometimes
there's
this
aversion
against
creating
ordinances,
and
I
don't
see
it
in
that.
L
I
think
it's
important
because
it
it
not
only
sets
the
standard
and
a
requirement
for
this
body,
but
any
future
body,
and
if
they
want
to
deviate
from.
O
L
L
Tonight,
right
as
we're
voting
on
this
contract
renewal,
we're
the
senates
you
know,
and
so
I
think
very
clearly.
These
meetings
aren't
the
best
way
to
get
feedback
from
from
the
groups
that
are
directly
impacted,
and
so
we
have
to
find
other
ways
to
do
it,
and
it's
great
that
this
particular
administration
is
committed
to
doing
it.
L
But
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
that
every
future
council
is
as
well
and
if
they're
not
great,
they
can,
they
can
put
it
on
their
agenda
and
and
change
it
and
and
and
explain
their
their
rationale
to
to
their
constituents
at
that
point.
But
I
do.
I
would
like
to
to
take
a
look
at
an
ordinance
change
for
this
and
we
can
look
at
both
and
and
certainly
okay
with
it
being
implemented
even
before
we
vote
on
it.
A
L
Where
my
resistance,
no
no,
we
could
come
back
for
it.
I
just
in
between
you
saying
that
there
was
some
confusion
on
whether
or
not
an
ordinance
would
come
back,
and
so
I'm
saying
I'm
fine
with
the
update.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
a
draft
ordinance
comes
back,
that
we
can
at
least
consider
and
take
a
look
at
and
if
we
decide
at
that
time,
you
know
to
not
do
that.
O
A
note,
perhaps
we
could
bring
a
sort
of
process
back
to
the
housing
and
community
development
committee,
at
least
with
mto
and
saying
this
is
you
know
after
talking
to
3-1-1
and
say
this
is
what
we
think
we
can
do,
and
this
is
you
know-
and
you
know,
with
some
estimates
of
the
frequency
of
calls
and
what
kind
of
follow-up
we
can
do,
and
things
like
that
before
it
comes
back
to
council.
Would
that
make
sense?
O
I'm
trying
to
use
our
committees
in
our
committee,
that
is
most
one
of
the
hcdc's
responsibilities,
is
really
trying
to
get
feedback
from
the
people
that
were
most
trying
to
help
with
our
cdbg
and
our
other
funds
that
are
directed
using
an
equity
lens.
So
I
think
that
it
might
be
really
valuable
to
come
back
to
that
committee.
C
O
C
O
A
J
J
Chime
in
and
say
you
know,
I
think
that
it
may
be
appropriate
that
a
referral
is
made,
so
we
can
actually
go
through
the
process
if
the
law
department
is
actually
going
to
be
expanding
resources
and
to
drafting
the
ordinance
and
working
with
community
development
to
get
that
done
to
seeing
where
it
would
fit
in
the
code
appropriately.
A
A
Okay,
well,
I
think
this
has
been
a
very
productive
discussion.
Still
on
the
floor,
though,
is
the
motion
to
pass
the
underlying
item
hc1
and
seeing
no
further
discussion
will
the
clerk
please
call
the
role
on
item
hc,
one.
C
A
This
matter
there
are
seven
voting
favor
and
none
voting
against
and
so
item
hc
one
passes.
This
brings
us
to
call
of
awards
council
member
kelly.
P
So
we
have
a
series
of
please
look
out
for
the
email
series
of
community
meetings
coming
up
about
various
developments
from
the
burger
king
site
to
chicago
avenue
and
others,
and
I
think
that's
it.
So
we
have
one
meeting
and
also
plan
commission
our
land
use
commission
this
wednesday.
Regarding
a
hearing
for
the
burger
for
the
trammell
crow
burger
king
development,
I
hope
everybody
will
try
to
attend
so
that
we
can
hear
your
voices.
Thank
you.
N
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
This
thursday
is
the
third
ward
town
hall
meeting.
It
will
be
via
zoom
this
thursday
evening
from
7
to
8
30..
Anyone
is
welcome
to
join
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
all
thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Looking
ahead
to
february,
the
fourth
ward
meeting
will
be
tuesday
february,
8th
likely
online
fourth
ward
residents.
Please
stay
tuned
I'll,
let
you
know,
via
the
newsletter
and
office
hours
saturday
february,
12th
at
reprise
roasters
from
10
to
12
in
the
morning.
L
Hopefully,
I'm
announcing
his
name
correctly,
if
not
apologize,
john
and
he's
a
member
of
everson
transit
alliance.
That
is,
that
is
all
remember.
A
K
Yes,
I
would
like
to
announce
there
will
be
an
eighth
ward
meeting
also
on
thursday,
so
we're
tripling
up
on
thursday,
thursday,
from
six
to
seven,
our
eighth
ward
meeting
or
award
night.
I'm
gonna
start
calling
it
and
it
is
virtual
as
well,
and
so
that
I
think,
should
be
on
the
city's
website
and
we'll
get
a
blast
out
about
that
to
get
folks
to
link.
Also,
I
I
want
to.
I
spoke
to
manager
interim
manager
gandursky
earlier.
K
There
were
some
concerns
raised
about
the
panhandling
signs
that
were
put
up,
and
I
had
residents
eighth
ward
residents
reach
out
to
me.
I
share
that
concern,
but,
after
speaking
with
manager
gondorski,
I
have
a
bit
more
clarity
on
what
the
goal
is
and
a
fuller
picture
than
what
was
provided
in
evanston
now.
But
I
I
do
also
hope
that,
as
we're
moving
forward
with
this
process,
one
that
we
learned
from
the
past,
I
didn't
have
the
time
to
pull
my
gray
beard
off
the
mantle.
K
My
my
fake
gray
beard
as
alderman
one
says,
but
I
think
I
remember
from
my
time
as
court
reading
something
about
our
history
may
have
been
the
1920s
or
30s,
where
we
also
instituted
a
similar
or
not.
This
not
signs
that
like
have
hearts
and
nice
things
about
not
paying
handheld,
but
we
instituted
a
pretty
strict,
panhandling
ordinance
and
I
think
there's
some
backfire
to
it,
and
I
just
don't
want
that's
not
who
evanston
is
I
get
the
goal
of
this?
K
We
are
looking
to
direct
these
funds
in
a
productive
way
and
discourage
what
is
illegal
here,
because
my
understanding
for
miss
gandersky
from
manager
gandowski,
is
that
panhandling
itself
is
not
illegal
in
the
city
of
evan.
So
I
want
folks
to
understand
that
panhandling
is
not
illegal
here,
but
aggressive
panhandling
is
illegal
here,
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
really
educate
folks
about
the
difference
between
aggressive
panhandling
and
someone.
K
You
know
who
is
you
know,
kind
of
gently
asking
for
change,
but
isn't
being
aggressive
in
their
in
their
in
their
manners
of
that
and.
K
K
It
is
trader,
joe's
being
harassed
either
by
residents
or
by
police,
because,
as
as,
as
as
my
colleague
on
the
equity
empowerment
commission
mentioned,
miss
thomas,
that
you
know
the
city,
we
as
a
body
we
as
a
city,
we
as
an
institution,
both
locally
state
and
federally,
have
failed
these
folks
in
one
way
or
another,
whether
it's
mental
health
poverty
support.
Whatever
the
case
may
be,
we
have
failed
them
and
we
should
not
further
stigmatize
these
folks
or
further
add
to
to
confusion.
K
In
fact,
as
someone
who
was
falsely
arrested
for
the
panhandling
ordinance
a
couple
years
ago,
you
know
I
I
do
understand
how
easily
you
know
a
misinterpretation
of
that
ordinance
can
lead
to
leech
a
whole
host
of
things.
So
I
hope-
and
that
concludes
my
comment.
E
E
C
K
E
Thank
you
kelly.
So,
pursuant
to
five
ilcs
120
2a,
I
move
that
the
city
council
convened
into
executive
session
to
discuss
agenda
items
regarding
litigation
and
personnel.
These
agenda
items
are
permitted
subjects
to
be
considered
in
executive
session,
as
enumerated
in
five
ilcs
120,
slash
2a,
that
is
section
c11
and
c12.