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A
C
B
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
clerk.
We
have
a
quorum
today
and
we
have
all
of
our
aldermen
here
for
the
record
clerk.
I
have
roll
call
tonight,
beginning
with
alderman
baby
on
that.
A
Someone,
don't
worry,
no
worries,
okay,
alderman
wilson.
Could
you
please
make
a
motion
to
suspend
the
rules
for
remote
participation.
D
We
suspend
the
rules
to
allow
us
to
conduct
the
meeting
using
the
zoom
software
in
lieu
of
a
in-person
meeting
and
also
in
accordance
with
the
governor's
prior
directives
with
regard
to
code
19.
F
A
Thank
you,
clerk.
The
suspension
of
the
rules
along
from
remote
participation,
passes
on
a
9-0
vote
and
that's
due
to
the
pandemic
and
our
need
to
to
meet
remotely
welcome.
Everybody.
Today
is
the
monday
october
26
2020
evanston
city
council
meeting.
A
First
up
we're
going
to
have
a
public
hearing
today
before
we
go
to
the
what's
our
typical
standard
agenda
and
that
public
hearing
is
going
to
be
on
the
fiscal
year.
2021
proposed
budget
for
the
city
of
evanston
and
I'm
gonna
ask
alderman
rainey.
If
you
would
just
move
well
actually,
no,
I
don't
think
I
need
a.
I
don't
need
correct
me
kelly.
If
I'm
wrong,
I
don't
believe
I
need
a
movement
of
a
council
member
on
this.
A
I'm
just
going
to
convene
this
so
pursuant
to
the
illinois
complied
statutes
in
section
1-11-5
of
the
city
code,
the
evanston
city
council
is
conducting
a
public
hearing
today
to
consider
the
fiscal
year.
2020
excuse
me
fiscal
year,
2021
proposed
budget
document.
The
purpose
of
this
hearing
is
to
allow
for
public
input
on
the
proposed
budget
document.
Staff
has
presented
an
overview
of
the
2021
proposed
budget
on
october
19
2020.
A
A
I
declare
convene
it
to
be
open,
so
we're
not
going
to
hold
this
hearing.
I
have
four
individuals
that
have
signed
up
for
this
public
hearing
to
speak
tonight
and
share
their
perspective.
A
The
first
speaker
is
mike
visilco.
Then
we
will
have
ray
friedman.
One
I've
got
the
first
name
jamie.
I
didn't
see
a
last
name
on
the
sign
in,
but
it
may
be
robin
that
was
the
last
email
the
email
address
had
jamie
robin
in
it
and
then
sean
peck,
collier
luke.
Please
let
me
know
if
anyone
else
signs
up
for
this
public
hearing
before
I
close
it
first
up,
then,
is
mike
fasilco.
A
Okay,
then,
let's
go
to
our
second
we'll
come
back
to
him
at
the
end,
if
he's
back
with
us,
do
we
have
ray.
I
Friedman,
hello,
this
is
ray
speaking
welcome.
Ray
could
hear
me
we
can
hear
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
good
evening.
Everyone
first
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
about
the
public
hearing
and
is
this
a
discussion
and
will
our
comments
be
addressed
during
or
after
this
hearing?
So
that
was
the
first
thing
I
had
in.
I
see
you
made
it
a
point
to
put
that
ad
in
the
tribune.
I
guess
it's
required
by
law.
I
My
question
is:
why
wasn't
it
mentioned
at
last
week's
city
council
meeting
or
two
weeks
ago
at
city
council
meeting?
I
keep
up
with
pretty
much
all
events
and
activities
and
I
get
emails
almost
every
day
from
evanston.
I
did.
I
miss
an
email
about
this
public
hearing
and
did
we
have
it
advertised
in
evanston
now
or
evanston
patch,
so
the
last
question
about
that
was:
was
this
public
hearing
posted
anywhere
else
where
others
might
have
seen
it
because
I
see
there's
only
four
people
signed
up
to
speak
so
now
on
the
budget.
I
My
first
question
is:
what
is
the
status
of
city
hall
at
2100
ridge?
When
will
be,
we
be
resuming
business
there
wondering
how
many
employees
did.
We
have
working
there
at
city
hall
full
and
part
time
and
how
much
money
have
we
saved
from
city
hall
being
closed
for
the
last
eight
months
or
so
also
how
much
money
did
we
save
not
having
our
usual
summer
outdoor
activities.
I
I
Oh
good,
okay,
what
did
you
decide
to
do
regarding
james
park?
Are
you
going
to
replace
the
gas
pipes
and
electric
pipes
after
we
spent
eight
million
dollars
on
the
lawsuit
that,
unfortunately,
we
lost?
What
else
have
I
got?
What
is
the
status
of
1305
pitna?
We
haven't
talked
about
that
in
a
while.
We've
been
asking
about
it
for
a
couple
years,
though,
is
it
rented?
If
so,
how
many
units?
I
What
program
are
they
rented
under
if
they're
rented
at
all
the
taxpayers
spent
five
and
a
half
million
dollars
on
this
project?
I
think
it's
time
we
found
out
if
it's
being
used
or
not.
I
also
wanted
to
mention
the
three
budget
meetings
with
the
residents
for
a
budget
discussion,
and
you
know
I'm
I'm
really
big
on
having
a
discussion
which
we're
sorely
lacking
here.
I
It
appears
there
were
10
to
15
residents
per
meeting,
as
it
was
last
year,
split
into
three
tables
after
the
same
presentation
of
the
pie
chart
at
each
meeting
each
meeting,
you
asked
us
questions,
so
there
was
very
little
time
for
residence
questions.
We
probably
got
to
speak
about
five
six
minutes
for
each
of
us
and
the
topics
that
you
chose
for
each
meeting
was
not
particularly
a
topic
topic
that
I
would
have
raised
to
talk
about.
I
I
I
So
I
know
that
we've
had
a
budget
crisis
every
year,
like
I
said
we
we're
really
short
on
on
discussion
with
residents,
and
I
think
it
would
really
help
everybody
that
if
we
had
these
discussions
and
input
from
people
about
everything,
a
major
any
major
decision
that
goes
on
in
evanston.
So
thank
you
for
the
time
appreciate
it
and
I'll
see
you
soon
at
public
comment.
A
Thank
you
ray
next
up,
we've
got
jamie.
J
Which
covers
property
tax,
the
general
fund
levy
and
the
human
service
fund
levy
are
increasing
by
one
million
fifty
thousand
dollars,
which
could
be
avoided
if
city
did
not
budget
for
a
one
million
dollar
increase
in
the
general
fund
reserve
to
budget
an
increase
in
the
reserve,
while
the
pandemic
is
still
raging,
seems
to
be
a
bit
aggressive,
especially
since
the
fitch
rating
agency
gave
the
city
a
double
a
plus
stable
rating
on
july
23rd,
and
the
city
has
not
maintained
its
targeted
16.6
reserve
for
the
general
fund
reserve
since
2015..
J
So
to
start
doing
it
in
the
midst
of
a
continuing
economic
depression
seems
to
be
asking
a
bit
much
of
the
taxpayers.
J
I
would
call
the
council's
attention
to
page
132
which
details
the
operating
revenue
and
operating
expense
of
the
debt
service,
and
note
that
the
estimated
2020
debt
service
requirement-
that's
the
expense,
is
15
million,
840
000
and
that
in
2021
this
will
actually
decrease
to
15
million
133.
J
So
that
the
levy
is
actually
going
up
by
1.4
million,
so
I
will
address
what's
happening
in
the
general
fund
later,
but
this
seems
to
be
a
shift
in
policy
from
funding
the
debt
service
by
transfers
from
the
general
fund
into
the
debt
service
fund
and
then
passing
the
shortfall
onto
the
taxpayers.
J
Here
you
would
note
that
the
if
you
look
at
the
bottom,
the
revenue
net
surplus
was
114
million.
I
mean
sorry
14
million
in
2019
there
was
a
deficit
in
2020
of
900
000
plus,
but
where
the
budget
for
the
revenue
for
the
net
surplus
is
over
3
million
dollars
for
2021,
which
is
driving
a
requirement
to
levy
and
increase
tax.
If
the
levy
was
simply
eliminated
for
the
fire
pension
fund,
it
would
affect
the
fund
balance,
which
goes
to
pay
by
less
than
four
tenths
of
one
percent
and
then
also
they.
J
And
then
the
last
line
of
increase
on
page
174,
which
is
the
police
pension
fund
here
the
pension
fund
is
going
up
so,
but
if
you
look
at
the
revenue
line,
there's
a
line,
that's
interest
income,
which
was
in
2019
3134
491,
was
estimated,
budgeted
and
estimated
to
finish
2020
at
3.5
million,
but
2021
shows
a
decrease
of
1.
of
2
million
dollars
to
1.5
million.
J
So
there's
an
inconsistency
here
and
if
you,
if
the
budget
for
the
interest
income,
was
consistent
between
2021
and
2020
on
the
police
pension
fund,
you
would
completely
eliminate
any
need
to
increase
the
the
tax
levy
and
still
increase
the
fund
balance
for
the
pension
fund.
J
So
the
last
thing
that
I
said
I
wanted
to
cover
was
the
general
fund
expenditures
and.
J
And
that's
pages
basically
12
through
14.,
the
worksheet,
showing
an
increase
in
revenue
and
decrease
in
expenses
is
based
on
the
proposed
2021
budget.
J
J
So
I'm
suggesting
that
the
city
can
come
up
with
a
budget
for
2021,
that's
perhaps
2012
million
and
on
be
balanced
and
that
if
2021
ends
up
being
better
than
we
expect
in
terms
of
revenue,
generation
and
expenditures
being
controlled
below
budget.
That
the
first
million
or
two
of
good
news
be
earmarked
for
the
reserve
fund.
A
Thank
you
for
for
so
thoroughly
going
through
the
budget
and
being
insightful
with
those
comments.
We
appreciate
it.
You're
welcome.
Next
up,
we've
got
sean
peck
collier.
L
Thank
you.
So
I
think
it
is
important
to
note
that
we
have
heard
few
complaints
from
our
residents
in
terms
of
the
level
of
service
that
our
police
officers
are
providing
us.
L
So
why
are
we
increasing
the
evanston
police
department,
general
fund
by
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
using
the
same
fbi,
fbi
source,
released
in
the
moment
of
the
city
council
by
our
police
department?
Last
friday,
even
with
these
11
positions
eliminated,
evanston's
number
of
sworn
officers
is
about
30
percent
larger
than
similar
size
cook
county
cities.
L
Why
can't
we
follow
their
example
and
be
as
lean
and
efficient
with
our
own
police
force.
We
also
have
northwestern's
police
force
policing
about
a
third
or
so
of
evanston.
So
again
we
have
to
ask:
why
is
our
budget
adding
funding
to
our
police
force
rather
than
cutting
it?
Evanston's
poverty
level
is
already
at
13.3
percent.
Our
per
capita
income
is
forty
nine
thousand
dollars,
while
the
average
officer
salary
for
this
year
is
a
hundred
and
forty
three
thousand,
with
only
eleven
percent
of
officers
living
in
evanston.
L
H
M
First
of
all,
you
know
the
average
person
living
in
evanston
would
not
know
a
budget
hearing.
Apparently
a
budget
hearing
required
by
law
was
occurring
tonight.
M
The
city
manager
did
not
reply
to
my
request
four
or
five
days
ago
to
explain
more
about
the
hearing
and
what
it
involved.
A
budget
hearing
was
not
mentioned
in
any
of
the
recent
award
meetings.
M
M
People
don't
have
extra
cash
this
year,
many
people
don't
have
extra
cash
any
year.
Yet
each
and
every
year
staff
asks
for
a
property
tax
increase
which
council
gladly
approves.
This
is,
of
course,
in
addition
to
other
taxes,
other
fees
and
fine
increases
each
and
every
year.
Staff's
presentation
includes
a
powerpoint
slide,
showing
how
little
of
the
property
tax
increase
is
in
proportion
to
what
property,
taxpayers
pay.
M
They'll
say
it's
only
a
hundred
dollars
or
a
couple
hundred
dollars,
and
that's
the
usual
refrain.
This
year
is
a
year
where
many
people
in
evanston
and
across
the
country
could
use
that
extra
hundred
dollars.
So
the
extra
couple
hundred
dollars
to
pay
their
groceries
pay
bills.
You
know
pay
a
mortgage.
M
During
apnw
I
rattle
off
a
number
of
things
in
the
bills
that
should
be
considered
for
budget
improvements
next
year.
You
know
the
one
thing
that
we
don't
we
paid.
If
you
add
up
all
of
the
consultants
that
are
in
this
you
this
month's
bills
list,
it
only
adds
up
to
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
I
say
that
you
know
with
tongue-in-cheek,
because
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money,
but
consultants
on
a
an
average
month
are
much
higher
and
annually.
M
I
think
we
pay
millions
of
dollars
to
consultants
outside
consultants,
yet
we
hire
in
theory
we're
hiring,
experienced
engineering,
people
and
planning
people
that
shouldn't
require
all
these
consultants
to
be
hired.
I
mean
this
this
month
to
reinforce
the
point
this
month,
there's
an
expenditure
for
a
consultant
to
assess
the
need
for
a
canoe
launch
now
granted.
That
was
only
a
couple
of
thousand
dollars,
but
it's
it's
that
ridiculous
that
we
have
to
ask
somebody
or
pay
somebody
to
look
at
a
canoe
launch
and
whether
or
not
it's
appropriate.
M
You
know
99
of
them,
I
I'm
sure
there's
one
or
two
that
has
to
has
to
happen,
but
you
would
save
millions
of
dollars
on
that
line
or
item
annually
alone
and
avoid
a
tax
increase.
M
You
know,
I
I
guess
I'm
going
to
save
the
rest
of
my
comments
for
city
council
because
it
gets
into
spending.
You
know
another.
Eight
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand
dollars
for
bullying
andrews
at
robert
crown
and
a
few
other
comments
related
to
that.
But
there
are
things
in
the
that
we
spend
on
a
monthly
basis
whether
it's
you
know
you
should
scrutinize
technology
being
used
for
some
of
our
staff
so
that
it's
only
being
used
like
cell
phones
and
other
technology
that
might
be
used.
M
A
All
right
we're
now
going
to
move
into
mayor
announcements
and
proclamations.
I
have
no
proclamations
today,
but
I
do
want
to
just
talk
briefly
about
the
situation
with
covet
19.
That
situation,
as
I
think
people
are
aware,
has
grown
worse
since
we
last
reported
out
on
this,
while
evanston,
you
know
on
relative
terms,
continues
to
do
well,
given
our
positivity
rate,
we
are
seeing
the
number
of
cases
go
up.
A
We
are
seeing
the
positivity
rate
go
up
as
of
today,
our
seven
day,
moving
average
for
the
positivity
rate
is
now
at
a
little
less
than
three
percent.
As
you'll
recall
all
summer,
we
pretty
much
fluctuated
between
one
and
one
and
a
half
percent.
Last
week
we
moved
up
to
two
percent,
and
now
we're
already
already
close
to
three
percent.
A
The
state
positivity
rate
is
at
six
and
a
half
percent
cook
county,
suburban
cook
county
in
the
city
of
chicago
is,
I
believe
I
don't
have
the
numbers
right
in
front
of
me
and
the
seven
in
the
seven
percent
range.
We
have
seen
multiple
consecutive
days
of
an
increase.
A
A
The
contact
tracing
that
is
being
done
not
only
here
in
evanston
but
elsewhere
is
indicating
transmission,
that's
occurring
at
bars
in
restaurants
and
as
a
result,
they
have
put
restrictions
in
place
that
will
include
no
indoor
service
at
restaurants
for
time,
for
a
time
being
until
we
actually
get
these
numbers
back
down,
and
that
includes
numbers
in
the
entire
region.
People
have
come
to
me
and
said:
well,
hey
mayor,
we're
doing
well
in
evanston,
can't
we
be
exempted
from
that.
A
The
answer
is
no,
because
we
are
regional,
we
sort
of
succeed
together
or
fail
together,
so
there
will
be
no
indoor
service
in
terms
of
the
size
of
groups
that
can
get
together.
It
had
been,
as
I
think
everybody
knew,
no
more
than
50
people,
but
now,
with
this
combating
resurgence
plan,
it
is
to
be
no
more
than
25.
A
People
that
can
be
together
again
should
be
practicing
social,
distancing,
wearing
masks,
and
all
of
that
we
can
continue
to
eat
outdoors
at
restaurants.
I
would
encourage
everybody
to
you
know
order
takeout
from
our
restaurants.
Here
again
they
are
really
struggling.
I
could
go
to
each
alderman
and
they
would
tell
you
a
story
about
the
restaurants
in
there
in
their
wards
and
again
we
don't
want
to
lose
the
essence
of
evanston
in
terms
of
so
many
of
these
great
restaurants,.
A
Those
are
the
two
big
changes
in
terms
of
effective
wednesday,
no
more
in
indoor
dining
and
then
guests
being
capped
at
25..
I
want
to
stress
that
applies
to
everything
that
the
25
that
applies
to
churches,
that
applies
to
our
personal
homes.
If
you're
having
people
over,
you
should
not
be
having
any
more
than
25
people
over
and
again,
preferably
your
outdoors
and
if
you're
close
to
one
another,
you
are
wearing
masks.
A
Our
hospitalizations
are
increasing.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
that
these
actions
are
being
taken.
We
are
seeing
the
availability
of
icu
beds
and
surge
medical
beds,
decreasing
there's
still
capacity,
but
those
numbers
are
going
down.
I
want
to
stress
to
everyone
the
importance,
particularly
this
year
for
all
of
us
to
get
a
flu
shot.
We
want
to
keep
people
out
of
the
hospital
so
that
there
are
rooms
in
our
hospitals
for
those
that
have
severe
cases
of
cove
of
covet.
A
A
Okay
again,
what
what
should
we
all
be
doing?
You
just
want
to
stress.
Watch
your
distance
stay
at
least
six
feet
apart
from
those
outside
of
your
household,
we're
a
face
covering
over
your
nose.
I've
seen
some
people
not
wearing
over
your
nose.
A
You've
got
to
wear
it
over
your
nose
over
over
your
mouth
in
public
settings
that's
indoors
and
outdoors
when
social
distancing
is
not
practical,
wash
your
hands
thoroughly,
avoid
large
gatherings
stay
home
if
you're
experiencing
any
symptoms
of
covet,
19
or
if
you've
been
in
close
contact
with
a
person
who
has
been
infected
with
covet
19,
the
infection
rate
is
increasing.
Remember
all
the
efforts
that
we
had
this
spring
late
last
winter
and
spring
was
about
reducing
the
exponential
growth
of
this
virus
that
infection
rate.
A
A
So
as
that
number
goes
up
and
it
can
increase
quickly,
we
could
see
exponential
growth.
That's
why
these
actions
are
being
taken
by
the
governor
and
all
the
different
cities
that
are
being
impacted.
There
is
going
to
be
a
testing
event
tomorrow
at
eths.
It
was
also
today
we
have
a
lot
of
people
show
up
today.
It
will
be
from
11
a.m,
to
3
p.m.
Tomorrow,
and
this
is
the
state,
that's
providing
us
one
of
their
mobile
testings.
A
The
number
of
tests
that
we
have
been
doing
month
over
month
over
a
month
has
been
increasing
since
last
march.
So
that's
positive
news.
We
continue
to
do
contact
tracings
here
in
evanston.
To
give
you
a
sense,
though,
of
the
virus
in
evanston.
Like
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
are
now
I
don't
know.
If
I
mentioned
this
earlier,
we
are
now
experiencing
an
average
of
16
cases
per
day
on
a
seven
day.
A
Moving
average,
we
have
227
active
cases
here
in
evanston,
ike
ogbo,
our
public
health
director
and
his
entire
team
continue
to
do
contact
tracing
on
all
of
them.
I
want
to
share
just
a
little
information
on
contact
tracing
that
we
have
not
shared
before,
because
this
is
sort
of
new
data
that
we
are.
We
are
getting
but
the
since
I
can
tell
you
in
the
last
week,
50
of
our
covid
cases
have
been
with
those
age
29
and
younger
those
between
20
and
29
are
representing.
A
You
know,
30
little
more
than
30
percent
of
the
cases
in
the
last
week
here
in
evanston
and
20
were
under
the
age
of
20.,
so
we've
got
about
50
percent
of
the
cases
that
is
different
than
the
way
it
was.
This
spring
we
were
seeing
a
large,
disproportionate
number
relative
to
older
ebb
estonians
here
we're
not
seeing
that
right
now.
The
fear
is
that
again,
if
we
see
a
rise
in
the
younger
population
and
they
meet
with
their
parent,
you
know
they.
A
A
Well,
we've
been
seeing
that
grow
since
september
1st,
so
we've
been
monitoring
this
since
september
1st
and
so
for
all
of
you,
young
people
that
are
watching
this
again.
Please
think
about
your
parents
and
your
grandparents.
Please
wear
a
mask.
A
We
need
to
slow
the
transmission
down
among
that,
among
that
age
group
and
if
you're
a
parent-
and
you
have
a
teenager,
you
have
a
young
adult.
You
know-
please
have
that
conversation
with
with
them.
We've
done
such
a
good
job
here
in
evanston.
I
know
that
we've
demonstrated
to
ourselves
we're
capable
of
continuing
to
do
a
good
job
containing
and
managing
this
virus,
but
we
have
work
cut
out
for
us
as
we
head
further
into
the
fall
and
the
winter.
A
So
we
will,
we
will
start
to
put
continue
to
put
more
and
more
messages
out
to
the
community
on
on
what
we
need
to
do
as
well
as
consider
any
particular
actions
that
we
need
to
take
unique
here
to
evanston.
N
Yes,
you
might
have
mentioned
this,
but
just
again,
can
you
say
when
these
restrictions
take
effect.
A
So
the
restrictions
take
effect
wednesday,
okay,
so
so
this
one
this
wednesday
will
no
longer
the
groups
have
to
be
25
or
less.
I
should
say
that
excludes
schools,
okay
or
education
all
right,
so
that
excludes
schools.
If
there's
any
because
you
could
say:
oh
well,
there's
some
you
know
school,
that's
going
and
there's
you
know:
50,
kids
and
everything.
That's
that's
excluded
right
now
from
the
restrictions
that
just
came
down
today.
A
I
do
want
to
make
note
one
more
thing
on
on
covet
19
that
the
county
today
just
announced
a
cover,
19
resident
cash
assistance
program.
We
talked
about
how
our
residents
are
hurting.
Many
of
our
restaurants
are
hurting.
Many
of
our
residents
are
hurting
as
well,
particularly
given
that
congress
wasn't
unable
and
had
not
renewed
the
the
additional
supplemental
to
unemployment
insurance.
So
the
cook
county,
coven,
19
resident
cash
assistance
program,
is
available
for
residents
in
suburban
cook
county.
A
It
will
provide
one-time
payments
in
the
amount
of
six
hundred
dollars
to
approximately
three
thousand
eligible
households
to
support
residents
who
inc
whose
income
is
at
or
below
250
percent
of
the
federal
poverty
level.
Prior
to
march
1st
2020,
if
you
want
to
learn
more
about
this,
we
put
information
out
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that
as
a
city
on
our
website.
A
That
concludes
my
messages
for,
for
today,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
now
to
our
our
permanent
and
new
city
manager,
erica
storley,
for
any
messages.
A
B
I
do
as
mentioned,
elections
are
well
underway,
I'll,
just
give
folks
a
quick
update
on
our
early
voting
numbers
early
voting.
So
first
early
voting
is
going
on
now
at
the
evanston
civic
center
down
in
room
g300
we've
had,
it
seems,
like
improved
experience
over
the
since
we
last
met-
and
I
think
a
lot
of
folks
are
now
pleased
with
you
know
some
of
the
social
distancing
that
is
going
on
as
of
seven
o'clock.
B
Today,
we've
had
six
thousand
five
hundred
and
seventy
five
evanstonians
vote.
That
actually
is
a
bit
down
from
where
we
would
have
been
at
this
point
last
year,
but
I'm
sorry
in
2016
I
should
say,
but
we
still
are
on
track
as
as
well
as
early
vote
or
I'm
sorry
vote
by
mail
numbers
are
way
up
and
so
that'll
factor
and
we'll
have
those
final
numbers
after
the
election.
So
you.
B
We're
we're
ahead,
but
before
we
were
at
this
point.
H
B
So
folks
can
still
vote
at
the
civic
center
from
8
30
a.m
until
7
p.m,
on
weekdays
and
nine
to
five
on
weekends,
I
do
very
quickly
want
to
shift
from
the
november
election.
I
think
folks,
if
you
have
any
questions
about
that
folks,
can
reach
out
to
the
clerk's
office
here
locally
or
to
the
county
police
office.
If
you
have
any
issues
with
the
mail-in
ballot,
we
do
just
want
to
make
sure
when
you're.
B
Turning
in
that
melon
ballot,
there
is
a
drop
box
here
at
the
civic
center.
You
can
skip
their
lines.
If
you
have
a
mail-in
ballot,
make
sure
that
you
have
your
envelope
your
outer
envelope
signed
and
if
you're
dropping
off
for
someone,
then
you
want
to
make
sure
that
they've
filled
out
the
affidavit.
K
B
Yeah,
anyone
in
a
suburban
cook
county
can
vote
at
the
evanston
city.
K
B
No
problem,
if
I
can
share
my
screen
for
a
quick
second,
I
do
want
to
spend
a
second
going
through.
B
We
have
an
election
coming
up
here
locally
and
I
just
want
to
take
two
minutes
to
run
through
this.
We
do
have.
B
We
do
have
a
few
presentations
posted
online
that
folks
can
watch
much
longer
than
this.
We
have
an
hour-long
presentation
for
the
state
board
of
elections.
This
is
going
to
be
five
minutes
here,
run
through
this
one.
I
presume
this
is
a
very
effective
place
to
get
information
out
to
folks
who
plan
on
running
for
office.
So
let's
just
quickly
run
through
this.
B
So
as
as
I
have
said
before,
the
consolidated
primary
election
is
february.
23
2021
the
election
will
take
place
april.
6
2021.,
there's
a
mayoral
primary
of
two.
If
more
than
two
candidates
filed
to
run
and
a
primary
or
alderman
aldermanic
races
where
four
or
more
candidates
file
to
run
in
the
automatic
race,
the
top
two
vote
getters
will
move
on
to
april.
If
there
is
a
primary
and
in
the
mayoral
race,
if
someone
gets
over
50,
they
win
outright
in
the
february.
B
B
Early
voting
is
a
very
effective
way
to
collect
signatures
if
you're
running,
citywide
and
election
day
is
a
great
way,
a
great
time
to
collect
signatures
in
wards
standing
outside
of
polling
places,
qualifications
to
run
for
office
so
that
you
have
lived
in
the
district
in
which
you
plan
to
run
for
at
least
one
year.
B
You
are
not
eligible
if
you've
been
convicted
of
bribery,
perjury
or
a
felony,
and
you
must
be
18
years
older
by
the
date
of
the
general
election
to
run
signature
requirements.
These
are
the
various
requirements
by
ward.
It's
based
on
a
formula
of
five
to
eight
percent
of
the
total
number
of
votes
cast
in
the
last
mayoral
election.
So
folks,
who
are
on
the
dice,
now
likely
remember
having
a
much
smaller
signature
requirement
four
years
ago
and
the
numbers
have
increased,
because
voter
turnout
increased
significantly
in
that
election.
B
So
the
award
with
the
highest
signature
requirement
is
the
sixth
ward
which
had
the
highest
quarter.
Turnout,
the
lowest
signature
requirement
is
the
fifth
ward
which
you
can
get
on
the
ballot
with
a
minimum
of
54
signatures.
B
And
just
to
be
clear,
this
is
the
minimum
number
of
signatures.
You
can
turn
in
maximum
number
of
signatures.
Anything
over
the
maximum
number.
There
will
not
be
constant
petitioning
began
august,
25th
and
what's
really
important
here
is
filing
occurs
between
november
16th
and
monday
november,
16th
and
monday
on
november.
23Rd,
your
place
on
the
ballot
is
determined
by
when
you
file.
B
So
if
you
file
on,
if
you're
in
line
nine
o'clock
on
november
16th,
you
enter
a
lottery
for
top
spot
and
if
you're,
in
line
for
the
final
hour
on
the.
K
B
You
enter
a
lottery
for
the
bottom
spot
and
then
everyone
who
files
in
between
just
falls
in
place.
B
Position,
circulators
and
sinus.
So
in
order
to
circulate
a
petition,
you
must
be
18
years
or
older
by
the
date
of
the
election
and
a
u.s
citizen.
So
the
circulator
can
live
anywhere
in
the
country
anywhere
in
the
county.
They
don't
have
to
be
evanstonians
to
certificate
for
any.
B
Witness
all
signatures
on
each
sheet
that
they
circulate,
so
you
can't
just
leave
a
signature
sheet
on
your
front
porch
and
have
neighbors
come
by
and
sign.
Unless
you
are
personally
observing
each
signature,
scientists
must
be
registered
voters
in
the
district.
So
in
the
ward,
if
you're
running
for
alderman,
there
must
be
registered
voters
in
your
ward.
B
You
may
not
sign
a
petition
for
more
than
one
candidate
running
for
a
single
office,
so
you
know
you
can't
sign
for
two
candidates
running
for
clerk
or
for
mayor
or
for
alderman
in
the
same
ward.
You
know
if,
for
example,
if
evanston
elected
our
aldermen
like
skokie,
which
is
at
large,
you
could
sign
for
the
number
of
aldermen
who
are
to
be
elected
for
those
advocacies.
B
There
is
an
objection
period
that
takes
place
from
you
know
the
final
day
of
filing
for
the
week
out
folks
will
have
an
opportunity
to
look
at
petitions
if
they're
filed
and
then
they'll
have
up
to
a
week
after
the
last
day
for
following
petitions
to
file
an
objection
to
those
petitions
if
they
see
necessary
filing
what
candidates
will
turn
into
the
clerk's
office.
B
Is
a
statement
of
candidacy,
a
receipt
of
a
statement
of
economic
species,
of
a
statement
of
economic
interest
that
is
filed
with
the
clerk's
office?
So
you
want
to
take
this
statement
of
economic
interest
to
the
cook
county
clerk's
office.
There's
a
satellite
location
at
courthouse
that
you
can
have
them
stamp
it.
They
will
give
you
a
copy
of
that
stamp
receipt
and
then
you'll
submit
that
with
your
petitions
before
the
last
day
of
filing
petition.
You'll
also
have
your
signature,
signature
sheets.
B
Those
should
be
numbered
consecutively,
also
bound
all
of
this
together
in
a
securely
in
a
packet
campaign,
disclosure
very
important,
you
know,
campaign
disclosure
must
be
made
for
all
candidates
with
expenditures
or
contributions
exceeding
five
thousand
dollars,
and
donations
are
not
to
exceed
five
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
to
any
single
candidate
or
I'm
sorry
to
any
single
candidate
from
any
individual.
B
The
state
board
of
elections
has
a
campaign
disclosure
guide
on
their
website,
and
it
is
very
important
to
be
aware
of
that.
If
you're
interested
in
running
most
folks
have
used
this
link
already
and
you
have
received
information
but
here's
another
link.
That
is
very
helpful
and
this
is
the
21.
B
State
board
of
elections,
candidate
guide
and
here
what's
relevant
for
evan,
stoney
and
folks
running
for
local
office
here
in
evanston
is,
I
think,
it's
page
36.
B
B
B
This,
oh,
I
just
wanna.
I
do
wanna
note
for
folks
who
may
be
watching
who
are
maybe
running
for
school
board
or
some
other
district.
The
rules
are,
and
the
form
is
slightly
different
if
you're
running
for
an
office
outside
the
municipality,
so
you'll
want
to
check
with
your
election
official,
the
school.
B
Park
district
secretary,
so
you
can
check
with
your
officials
for
that
to
find
out
rules.
My
plan
is
to
the
building
is
still
currently
closed
and
I
I
think
we
expect
the
building
to
be
still
closed
when
the
filing
period
comes.
Maybe
mrs
storley
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
clerk's
office
will
of
course
be
open
and
we
will
notify
folks
before
then
how
it
will
arrange.
You
know
a
safe
delivery.
E
B
Your
petitions,
given
the
co-paid
situation
and
make
sure
that
folks
who
are
in
line
on
that
first
day
at
nine
o'clock,
are
all
counted
properly,
even
with
restrictions
that
we
may
have
to
have
about
folks
standing
inside
of
the
boat.
So
we'll
figure
that
out.
B
There
any
questions
I'm
happy
to
answer
them.
If
not,
then
here.
A
B
My
apologies:
that
guide
is
on
the
clerk's
webpage,
so
if
you
go
to
cityofavonson.com
and
you
search
for
city
clerk,
you'll
see
a
drop
down
menu,
we
have
reports
and
presentations
sub
tab
and
then,
on
that
tab
you
will
find
a
candidate
guy.
It's
a
2021
filing
for
the
2021
municipal
elections.
It's
also
posted
on
our
facebook
page,
along
with
a
few
videos,
great
more
detail.
Just.
D
Just
a
reminder:
it's
it's
dot,
org,
not
dot
com;
oh
yes,
yeah,
okay
and.
B
And
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
either
seat
of
a
petition
regarding.
I
think
the
matter
is
no
longer
on
the
agenda
today
tonight,
but
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
the
receipt.
A
The
petition
for
that
yeah
plan
development
project.
Sure,
okay,
thanks!
Thank
you!
Thank
you,
clerk
for
those
announcements.
We're
now
going
to
move
to
public
comment
before
we
start
public
comment.
I
noticed
that
a
lot
of
folks
had
signed
up
who
wanted
to
speak
about
the
project
on
chicago
avenue.
A
That
project
was
discussed
in
depth
in
the
planning
and
development
committee
and
did
not
pass
out
of
committee.
So
I
suppose
you're
welcome
if
you
still
want
to
talk
about
about
the
project,
but
it's
not
before
the
evanston
city
council
the
this
evening.
A
So
with
that,
even
though
I
had
more
than
15
people
signed
up
because
so
many
were
signed
up
related
to
that
project,
I'm
going
to
assume
I
have
less
than
15
that
will
actually
speak
tonight
so
per
our
rules.
We
will
set
aside
three
minutes
up
to
three
minutes
per
person.
If
you,
if
you
need
it
I'll,
keep
track
of
it.
If
you
get
to
the
three
minutes,
you're
going
to
hear
a
little
beeper
go
off,
please
just
wrap
it
right
up
or
I'll
have
to
interrupt
and
ask
you
to
wrap
it
up.
A
So
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
speaker.
So,
let's
see,
let
me
just
pull
up
and.
A
A
A
Okay,
how
about
bob
froacher.
P
I
just
have
a
brief
comment:
there
yes,
go
ahead.
Bob
first
I'd
like
to
thank
the
planning
and
development
committee
for
their
thorough
and
thoughtful
consideration.
Earlier
today
I
thought
there
were
times
where
there
was
a
little
bit
of
testiness
in
the
discussion,
and
I
wanted
to
share
with
the
older
men
and
older
women
perspective
from
a
citizen
in
the
community,
and
I
think
it's
very
important
for
you
to
understand
the
power
that
you
people
hold.
P
You
make
decisions
that
impact,
not
only
the
community
in
a
very
general
way,
but
people
human
beings
in
a
very
personal
and
individual
way,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
realize
that
in
this
particular
case
thousands
of
citizens
have
been
following
this
particular
development
and
working
hard
following
the
rules
or
the
process
of
protocol,
as
we
understood
it
and
had
seen
it
consistently
turned
down
dapper
plan.
Commission
staff
twice
plan
commission
twice,
and
so
when
people
have
put
in
that
kind
of
effort
and
believe
they
have
reached
an
outcome
that
they
think
is.
P
Being
through
that
process
and
protocol
achieved
it's
very
distressing
when
they
hear
at
the
last
planned
commission
meeting
that
the
next
step
will
be
to
review
this
at
the
planning
and
development
committee
meeting
and
then
the
plant,
and
then
the
city
council,
to
hear
that
otherwise
happened
is
what
causes
angst.
What
causes
lack
of
trust-
and
it
is
not,
it
is
the
perception
of
something
that
didn't
happen-
the
way
it
should
just
the
perception
of
that
is
enough
for
that
trust
to
be
broken.
P
That's
all
I'm
gonna
say
I
just
think
it's
important
for
all
of
you
and
I'm
not
speaking
to
anyone
in
individually,
but
all
of
you
to
understand
why
you
heard,
I
think
the
reaction
you
heard
on
on
the
video
on
the
zoom
earlier
today,
your
what
you
do
has
great
power
and
influence
at
a
very
personal
level,
some
people's
homes
might
have
seen
deterioration
and
value
when
they
believe
the
process
isn't
fair,
hasn't
been
followed
after
what
they've
been
told
and
that,
as
a
result,
things
are
not
happening
happening
in
a
way.
P
A
Luke,
I
understand
that
john
barfield
didn't
get
the
invite,
so
if
you
could
behind
the
scenes
connect,
so
we
can
get
him
on
later.
That
would
be
good.
Do
we
have
jennifer
washburn
with
us
and
if
not,
then
we've
got
jennifer
fisher
and
then
reverend
grace
matthew.
Q
Mayor
all
three
of
them,
or
four
of
them
spoke
at
planning
and
development
regarding
the
church
street
chicago
avenue,
development.
A
Yeah,
I've
got
a
lot
that
have
signed
up
and
I
I
don't
have
them
crossed
out,
so
I'm
just
gonna
call
their
name,
but
I
expect
aldermen
that
that
will
be
the
case.
So
we'll
keep
going
william
brown
dennis
harder
and
ray
friedman
are
next.
Do
we
have
william
brown.
I
Thank
you
good
evening.
Once
again,
you
know
what
first
before
I
before
I
make
my
comment
for
city
council.
I
really
want
to
thank
the
gentleman
that
spoke
at
the
public
hearing
that
laid
out
all
the
details
of
the
the
budget
and,
and
I
have
to
go
back
and
listen
to
that.
That
was
awesome.
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
that.
I
don't
know
his
name,
so
that
was
one
thing,
so
I
was
wondering
if
you're
gonna
comment
or
address
any
comments
from
tonight's
public
hearing.
I
Residents
need
to
be
involved
with
all
major
discussions
on
all
major
decisions.
I
was
very
impressed
with
the
one
and
a
half
hour
question
and
answer
session
with
the
three
city
manager
candidates
a
week
and
a
half
ago.
I
was
just
as
disappointed
by
the
lack
of
transparency,
lack
of
resident
input
and
next
day
with
your
all-day
closed-door
marathon
meetings
to
elect
the
new
city
manager.
I
So
we
all
can
see
in
here
what
transpired
at
that,
those
those
meetings
before
you
went
into
executive
session.
So
I'm
thinking
that
should
be
public
record
and
again,
I'm
totally
disappointed
with
the
lack
of
public
budget
discussions.
I
We
just
we
just
haven't,
had
any
public
discussions,
and
I've
been
talking
about
that
for
two
years
now
we
have
about
seventy
four
thousand
residents
and
about
nine
wards.
If
you
divide
number
of
residents
by
ward
and
I'm
cutting
it
low
you've
got
about
eight
thousand
people
per
ward,
that's
only
72
000
people.
I
We
all
need
input,
discussion
and
dialogue
from
all
awards
on
all
major
decisions
and
projects,
and
I
was
looking
at
the
five
goals
that
we
set,
I
believe
a
year
ago
in
2019,
so
the
five
goals
are
invest
in
city
infrastructure
and
facilities.
I
would
say
we
probably
did
that
stabilize
long-term
city
finances
that
was
number
one.
No,
we
haven't
done
that
enhanced
community
development
and
job
creation.
Citywide
no
haven't
done
that
expand,
affordable
housing
options.
I
I
don't
think
so
ensure
equity
in
all
city
operations.
Again,
I
don't
think
so
so
out
of
these
five
city
council
goals
for
2019
2020,
you
managed
to
accomplish
one
so
and
I'm
thinking.
If
there's
I
don't,
I
don't
know
why.
I
keep
thinking
that
if
there's
input
from
the
residents,
we
can
get
a
whole
lot
more
comp
accomplished
working
on
it,
together
than
nine
of
you
working
on
it
by
yourselves
and
then
coming
back
and
are
dealing
with
the
residents.
I
I
thought
that
the
aldermen
and
alderwomen
ran
for
this
position
to
represent
their
own
awards
and
city
of
evanston.
So
how
would
you
be
able
to
represent
your
your
award
residence
if
you
had
not
had
rec?
If
you
don't
have
regular
discussions
with
us,
I.
A
You
thank
you.
Thank
you
ray
for
sharing
your
opinion
next.
Next,
next
up,
we've
got
galen,
emersion
and
then
tina,
payton
and
then
darlene
cannon.
A
All
right
we'll
move
to
the
next
one
see
no
one
here:
do
we
have
tina
payton,
then
darlene
cannon,
then
doreen
price.
R
Yes,
good
evening,
everyone-
okay,
so
I
mentioned
this
at
another
city
council
meeting
before
that
all
meetings,
city,
council,
meeting
committee
meetings
and
ward
meetings
should
be
recorded.
The
mayor
said
at
when
I
made
the
comment
that
we
would
talk
about
it
or
the
council
would
talk
about
this,
and
I
would
like
to
see
some
dialogue
about
that.
R
Last
week,
ward,
9,
7,
4
and
eight
had
meetings,
all
ward
meetings
all
at
the
same
day
and
pretty
much
the
same
time,
and
I
would
have
liked
to
attended
most
or
all
of
them,
but
I
was
not
allowed
to
because
the
discussion
went
longer
but
because
the
meetings
weren't
recorded,
we
can't
go
back
and
see
what
happened
at
the
other
ward
meeting.
R
R
Also,
I
would
like
to
talk
about
reparations
reparations
needs
to
issue
to
issue
a
cash
payment,
as
alderman
ru
simmons
stated
when
she
first
presented
it
to
the
city
council,
saying
that
everyone
qualified
should
receive
a
cash
payment.
R
R
The
council
should
not
vote
on
raising
the
salaries
for
themselves
and
put
this
on
a
later
date.
When
the
budget
is
balanced
and
you
control
the
pandemic,
we
have
a
lot
of
people
that
are
hurting
as
the
mayor
discussed.
Our
restaurants
are
closed.
People
are
homeless,
and
this
is
not
appropriate
time
for
discussing
more
money
for
yourselves
when
we
have
budget
crisis
and
harmful
situations
during
the
pandemic.
R
But
what
happened
to
for
families
two
three
and
four
bedroom.
I
thought
that
the
city
received
a
large
sum
of
money
and
been
giving
the
money
to
agencies
to
house
families
in
evanston
not
outside
of
evanston,
and
these
new
developments
are
not
assisting
in
affordable
housing
only
for
studios
in
one
bedroom,
which
will
not
house
any
families.
R
A
All
right
next
up
we've
got
darlene
cannon.
Then
it
looks
like
doreen
price
is
not
speaking
tonight.
Then
brenda
greer,
then
kyra
kelly.
C
Yeah
good
evening
I'll
make
it
brief.
Since
I
just
have
three
minutes
and
my
concern-
and
I
did
want
to
speak
on
the
developer
horizon,
but
I
won't
I
will
wait
because
I
wanted
to
get
in
on
the
meeting
when
he
was
at
reparations.
I
could
not
because
of
my
equipment,
so
I
will
wait
till
I
speak
with
my
alderman
simmons
and
then
also
rainey
or
at
the
meeting.
C
The
next
thing
I
would
like
to
speak
on
is
why
our
home
on
homeowners
aren't
given
grants
to
help
repair
their
property
so
that
they
will
be
able
to
rent
to
more
people
that
are
here
in
ediston,
and
people
will
stop
having
to
relocate
and
move
out
of
evaston.
I
think
it's
very
unfair
and
there
are
a
lot
of
people.
C
We
have
businesses
that
come
in
and
get
grants
and
loans
or
set
up
our
businesses
in
everston
and
they
stay
for
a
year
or
two
chicken
and
waffles
won
the
heinen
brothers
dempster
and
dodge
the
recycling
center.
That
was
going
to
be
a
brewery.
These
people
come
in
and
get
funds
and
money
and
they
don't
stay,
and
then
they
leave
are
those
funds
paid
back
for
those
loans.
Whatever
grants
are
that
they're
given?
C
So
I
find
it
unfair
and
unjust,
because
I
was
pushed
out
of
everston
in
89
and
I
didn't
return
due
to
not
being
able
to
rent
and
the
rental
cost
of
everston
and
because
of
the
landlords,
but
I
did
happen
to
get
back
come
back
to
everston
in
2007.,
so
I
find
it
very
unfair,
especially
now
that
homeowners
aren't
given
the
grants
that
the
city
has
when
they
get
where
they
could
be
able
to
fix
their
properties
and
continue
to
rent
to
people
that
were
born
here
in
everson,
or
had
ancestors
that
were
here
in
everston
and
that
care
about
the
community
and
people.
C
So
that's
one
thing:
the
next
thing
is
I'd
like
to
touch
on
is
it
was
said
that
there
are
11
police
officers
that
will
let
go
or
retire
from
the
city
of
evanston.
I'd
like
to
know
how
many
police
officers
are
still
here
employed
what
awards
they're
patrolling
in
that's
night
and
day
and
then
there's
another
issue.
C
Also
another
thing
a
moment:
oh
that's
wrapping
it
up,
and
I
just
like
to
say
that,
as
mike
said
earlier,
these
are
crucial
times,
and
I
know
the
city
is
having
a
problem
with
the
budget.
I
know
that
they're
layoffs
and
referral
and
furloughs,
but
u.s
council
members
have
to
remember
that
the
community
at
large
voted
each
one
of
you
in
to
look
out
for
our
concerns
and
our
well-being
and
to
consider
our
health
and
life
as
you
making
the
decisions
that
you're
making.
So
thank
you
for
the
for
allowing
me
the
time.
A
S
S
The
elders
of
the
black
community
deserve
reparations
and
they
deserve
it.
First
that
should
be
a
check
placed
in
their
hands
to
do
with
it,
whatever
they
want.
Why
is
it
that
others
can
get
money
in
hand,
but
the
black
community
in
evanston
has
to
purchase
a
house
or
o
on
a
house
in
order
to
get
reparations.
S
Most
elders
have
already
purchased
homes
and
paid
off
their
mortgages.
Some
have
left
their
homes
and
do
not
want
to
purchase
another.
They
would,
however,
appreciate
a
check.
The
elders
of
the
black
community
want
a
check
in
their
hands
and
not
jump
through
hoops
to
get
something
they
don't
need,
give
them
a
check
before
they
all
die
and
can't
use
it.
S
A
D
Welcome
first
I'd
like
to
just
introduce
myself.
Some
of
you
know
me,
but
probably
most
of
you
don't
I
I
opened
the
lucky
platter
in
1991
and
I
sold
it
in
2014,
so
I
was
on
main
street
for
23
years.
I
also
grew
up
here
and
I'm
still
also
in
the
business.
Now
I
teach
cooking
in
the
city
and
I
also
do
consulting
work.
So
you
know
when
the
governor
came
out
today
and
put
on
this
new
mandate
or
restrictions
on
the
restaurant.
I
just
wanted
to
talk
to
it.
D
Obviously
I
take
kobe
very
seriously,
I'm
still
working
every
day
with
essential
workers.
I
also
teach
young
people,
so
there's
been
some
incidents
close
to
me
where
I've
been
very
close
to
families
that
have
had
coveted
and
people
that
have
been
sick.
D
So
I
want
to
just
say
that
I
take
it
very
seriously,
but
I
also
want
to
say
that
I
really
believe
that
these
restrictions
being
put
on
the
restaurants
are
unfair,
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
I'm
speaking
for
myself,
even
though
I
know
a
lot
of
the
restaurant
tours
in
the
community,
I
haven't
spoken
with
them
today.
Since
I
heard
this,
but
I
just
wanted
to
talk
with
you
as
alderman
about
it.
D
You
know,
I'm
not
sure.
We
all
know
that
this
this
these
close
quarters
that
people
do
get
sick
and
it's
possible
that
the
restaurants
are
a
place
where
this
could
happen.
D
I
think
this
deserves
a
lot
more
respect
and
attention
that
it's
getting,
I
mean,
I
hope
all
of
you
understand.
I
mean
I've
been
in
the
restaurant
business.
My
whole
life,
you
know
they
are
not
going
to
survive
onto
goes
and
this
statement
today
that
the
governor
placed
about
how
we
can
still
eat
out
in
to
go
areas
or
like
outdoors.
You
know
it
snowed
today,
guys
I
mean
how
many
restaurants
are
there
outdoor
people
eating
outdoors?
D
I
mean
I
believe
in
these
restaurant
tours
and
I
believe
that
they're
willing
to
protect
their
people
and
their
customers
and
their
customers
are
willing
to
come
in
and
eat
there.
We
need
to
support
that
and
what
I
would
like
to
evanston
do
and
you
as
aldermen
do-
and
you
know
some
of
you
know
that
I
was
more
involved
when
I
was
younger
and
this
kind
of
stuff.
But
I
would
like
evanston
to
come
out
and
publicly
say
that
we
don't
agree
with
the
governor
okay.
We
don't
agree
with
this
mandate
that
he's
placed.
D
A
You
thank
you
eric
for
speaking
on
this
appreciate
it.
Next
up,
we've
got
mike
fasilco.
M
Sarah,
I
wasn't
on
video
earlier
I
was
driving
and
speaking
of
earlier.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
three
other
residents
who
located
the
notice
and
were
able
to
speak
at
the
budget.
Hearing
really
wasn't
much
of
a
budget
hearing.
To
be
honest,
as
I
recall
the
one
piece
of
paper
I
found
in
the
packet,
there
was
supposed
to
be
a
presentation
and
some
other
things.
M
M
Feeling,
when
you
know
they're
invited
to
a
budget
hearing,
even
though
it
was
you
had
to
dig
for
it
and
there's
no
exchange
of
information.
So
a
budget
hearing
to
me
is,
I
ask
questions.
Somebody
on
staff
answers
the
questions,
it's
kind
of
like
the
budget
memos.
You
ask
questions,
ideally
somebody's
supposed
to
get
back
to
you,
which
they
haven't
done.
So
it's
really.
M
Despite
what
all
the
council
members
say,
it's
really
less
than
transparent.
When
it
comes
to
this
budget
process
and
the
few
of
us
that
actually
come
out
and
speak,
we
don't
really
get
the
recognition
that
we
should
on
the
flip
side.
M
Now
that
we're
at
the
council
meeting-
and
there
was
sounds
like
less
than
10
or
12
people
that
are
speaking
at
the
council
meeting
again,
it's
always
the
same
people
which
I
know
annoys
the
council
to
a
certain
extent,
and
I
have
to
say
it
annoys
me
that
these
people
that
I
know
hundreds
of
people
that
talk
to
talk,
but
they
don't
walk
the
walk.
Why
they're?
Not
on
this
call?
M
D
D
M
M
You
know
you
you
again
shout
out
to
tom
sufferden
the
only
one
who
sticks
his
neck
out
to
say:
don't
raise
taxes
this
year.
There
are
other
people
who
a
few
people
who
have
said
the
same
thing
from
the
citizen
side,
but
the
the
aldermen
immediately
jumped
on
tom's
off
to
suffer
them
the
last
time
he
he
he
tested
the
waters
about
actually
cutting
things
enough.
Where
you
don't
have
to
raise
taxes.
F
M
Okay,
well,
I
I
just
want
to
say
there's,
as
other
people
have
said
during
the
budget
hearing
and
ray
friedman
said
and
a
few
others
we
we
need
to
have
participation
where
we
ask
questions
and
we
get
answers.
I
I
sent
an
email
before
this
earlier
today,
asking
that
tom
suffered
in
suggests.
M
We
have
staff
available
once
on
on
a
saturday
or
sunday
where
citizens
can
go
to
a
zoom
place
and
ask
questions.
Have
a
dialogue
raise
favorite
word
a
dialogue,
get
questions,
have
a
discussion
with
staff
get
an
understanding.
They
would
better
understand
us
I'd
appreciate
if
somebody
would
do
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
Okay,
so
I
know
I
had
called
john
farfield
earlier,
but
he
was
not
able
to
get
in
or
we
weren't
able
to
connect
with
him
today.
I
guess
to
get
him
the
information
okay.
Well.
That
concludes
public
comment.
Thank
you.
Everybody
for
sharing
your
perspective
on
a
variety
variety
of
issues,
we're
now
going
to
move
into
the
agenda
tonight,
and
the
first
item
is
a
discussion
about
the
2021
proposed
budget.
Alderman
rainey.
Could
you
just
introduce
that
for
discussion.
K
Yes,
mr
mayor,
that
is
a
special
order
of
business.
Sp1
2021
proposed
budget
discussion
staff
requests
a
discussion
on
the
2021
proposed
budget.
I
move
approval
of
the
discussion.
A
Second,
second,
all
right,
so
this
item's
now
opened
up
for
discussion,
I'm
going
to
turn
to
interim
or
excuse
me
to
our
city
manager
manager,
storly
to
start
us
off.
I
know
a
lot
of
work
has
occurred
in
the
last
week
since
we
had
the
presentation
on
the
budget,
you
could
take
it
from
there
manager.
O
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
members
of
council.
So
yes,
we
have
begun
doing
a
lot
of
ward
meetings
in
the
past
week
and
we
have
a
lot
more
coming
up
in
the
next
two
weeks,
we're
having
a
lot
of
discussions
amongst
ward
residents
at
those
meetings.
And,
additionally,
we
did
our
introductory
overview
of
the
proposed
2021
budget
at
last
week's
city
council
meeting.
O
T
All
right
so
good
evening,
mayor
members
of
council,
just
a
couple
of
slides,
is
there
convention
on
the
2021
proposed
budget
here,
so
to
jump
over
to
the
fund
balance
discussion
in
our
2021
proposed
budget,
we
have
included
a
one
million
dollar
contribution
to
fund
balance
and
funding.
Half
of
that
500
000
from
property
taxes.
T
T
The
rating
agencies
do
review
this
as
an
indicator
of
our
of
our
financial
picture
and
our
financial
health
during
the
ratings
review
process,
and
it,
of
course,
is
an
important
measure
when
we
are
facing
a
year
like
2020,
when
we,
when
we
have
unexpected
circumstances
that
cause
us
to
draw
on
that
fund
balance
and
use
a
deficit
to
accomplish
those
needs.
T
So
this
slide
just
shows
a
couple
of
scenarios
that
we
put
together
in
a
budget
memo
about
how
to
address
the
police.
The
fund
balance
policy
of
sixteen
point:
six
percent,
with
an
annual
contribution
of
one
million
dollars,
which
was
included
in
the
2021
proposed
budget.
We've
reached
that
goal
by
2025.
T
T
T
If
we
do
that
sort
of
increasing
application
in
by
2025,
if
we
do
a
a
standard
million
dollar
per
year-
and
then
we
won't
be
reaching
that
policy
in
time,
if
we
only
can
contribute
half
a
million
per
year,
so
just
a
few
options
to
consider
and
to
sort
of
feed
into
discussion
this
evening,
and
now
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
ike
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
health
and
human
services
for
a
couple
of
slides.
U
Members
who
counsel
this
is
the
I
go
boat
department,
I'm
going
to
get
a
brief
overview
of
policy.
21
I'd
like
to
thank
the
city
and
said
the
mayor,
the
staff
our
community
remember.
V
One
second
director.
V
G
K
W
U
It's
nope
is
that
better.
X
U
U
There
are
a
number
of
measures
or
strategies
that
we
employed
in
2020.
That,
of
course,
will
be
extended
into
2021
one
being
maintaining
situational
awareness
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic
and
through
the
pandemic,
we've
maintained,
situational
awareness
with
cdc
and
idbh
regarding
information
and
protocols
that
we've
applied
to
our
mitigation
efforts
and
activities
in
afghanistan
and
we'll
continue
to
do
so
in
2020
on
another
measure,
of
course,
is
our
contact
basis
and
case
interviewing
program
has
been
very
instrumental
in
limiting
the
spread
of
the
virus
in
our
community
and
preventing
deaths.
U
U
So
far,
the
city
has
distributed
about
27,
000,
ppe
items
to
various
congregate
homes
and
congregate
settings
in
evanston,
and
it's
something
that
will
continue
2021..
Another
hallmark
of
our
response
has
been
expanding
testing
we
had.
This
has
been
made
to
come
to
fruition
with
partnerships
with
immediate
health
in
the
state.
So
far,
we've
had
over
six
testing
campaigns,
which
have
been
very
successful.
U
Okay,
if
you
can
give
me
the
other
slide
all
right,
so
another
aspect
of
the
virus
sponsors
has
been
assistance
for
those
who've
been
heavily
impacted
by
covet
19.
Those
individuals
who
have
been
secure
been
able
to
provide
food
assistance
through
our
eaga
programs
and
not
only
that
our
community
members
have
also
come
to
the
a
through
donations
and
their
goodwill
that
resulted
in
us
establishing
a
food
pantry
there.
We
were
able
to
provide
hundreds
of
food
boxes
to
our
residents,
who
are
undergoing
food
insecurity
during
this
pandemic.
U
U
We've
been
able
to
provide
guidance
for
schools,
businesses,
the
community
at
large.
As
we
navigate
this
pandemic,
we've
been
able
to
review
plans,
add
comments,
provide
input
or
plans,
northwestern
university
and
other
entities
that
they've
used
to
reopen
various
schools
and
operate
issuing
orders,
notices
and
responding
to
complaints.
This
is,
of
course,
a
hallmark
of
our
response,
where
we're
issuing
notices,
notices
doesn't
always
have
to
be
a
notice
of
violation.
U
U
U
The
amalgamation
of
our
social
services
under
the
umbrella
of
the
health
and
human
services
department
is
to
approach
social
services
from
an
integrated,
holistic
and
equitable
manner,
and
it
is
something
that
we'll
continue
to
work
on
in
2021
when
it
comes
to
staffing.
In
order
to
execute
these
critical
services,
we
need
them.
U
Budgeting
is
very
vital
in
staffing,
where
we
will
designate
some
amount
of
money
if
additional
staffing
is
needed,
that
will
pertain
to
perhaps
contracts
or
seasonal
employees
as
we
continue
along
into
this
pandemic,
and
that's
the
end
of
my
presentation.
If
there
any
questions,
I'm
here
to
answer
them.
O
K
I
I
have
a
question
for
ike,
I'm
sorry,
I
was
slow
raising
my
hand
when
the
it
order
came
out
today
about
closing
down
restaurants
in
illinois
and
especially
cook
county.
K
The
order
did
not
apply
to
them
is
the
and
and
also
given
the
comment
this
evening.
Is
there
any
way
we
could
modify
that
order
for
evanston
and
what
is
ike's
comments
about
that.
U
U
and
if
we
don't
comply
with
the
instructions
given
by
by
the
governor
for,
for
example,
let's
use
our
restaurants,
for
example,
that
will
actually
attract
other
people
who
will
come
from
elsewhere
to
ours
at
our
restaurants
and,
of
course,
maybe
perhaps
increase
the
transmission
rate
here
in
evanston.
So
whenever
an
order
of
sorts
is
issued,
we
we
follow
suit.
Even
though
at
this
point
everything
is
doing
well,
our
positivity
rate
is
approximately
three
percent.
G
K
N
Yeah,
I
have
a
budget
question.
Thank
you
to
miss
collier,
who
brought
up
some
issues
that
I
have
written
down,
but
he
articulated
them
into
much
more
of
a
financially
savvy
way.
So
I
did
have
a
question
about
the
one
million
dollars
to
the
fund
balance
the
budget.
N
N
N
I
realize
it's
our
internal
policy
and
I
think
it
is
a
good
policy,
but
in
a
year
where
we're
just
not
doing
well
as
a
city
and
our
residents
are
just
really
hurting
financially,
I
think
we
should
really
just
think
about
skipping
that
or
maybe
revisiting
that
even
in
the
middle
of
the
year,
based
on
where
we
are
financially
with
the
pandemic.
N
In
addition,
I
would
say
the
same
thing
for
the
pension
contributions.
I
know
that
we
are
over
funding
from
what
the
state
requires
and
again,
I
think,
in
a
healthy
financial
year.
N
There
are
a
couple
other
things
that
are
smaller
items
that
I
think
would
signal
to
our
community
that
we
are
very
serious
about
the
financial
place,
we're
in
and
the
financial
place
that
they're
in.
If
you
look
at
the
memo
for
the
police
department,
their
recommended
training,
I
know
they
have
lots
of
mandatory
training,
but
they
have
an
average
of
about
125
000
in
recommended
training
that
I
would
want
us
to
look
at
seriously
and
see
where
we
can
cut
back
some
of
those
items.
I'll
continue
with
the
car
allowance.
N
I
know
that
we
will
have
to
pay
some
people
back
with
the
car
lounge.
If
I
mean,
if
we
don't
do
the
car
allowance,
but
given
that
the
buildings
are
closed,
lots
of
meetings
are
zoomed,
I'm
imagining
staff
who
would
be
receiving
those
reimbursements
because
they're
going
to
things
just
aren't
really
going
that
many
places
nowadays
and
then
another
item
is
the
tax.
Sorry,
not
the
tax,
the
health
payment,
the
150
a
month.
I
believe
people
can
take
if
they
are
not
taking
our
health
insurance.
N
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
that's
a
benefit,
not
a
requirement
I
want
to.
If
somebody
can
answer
that
question
for
me
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
reading
that
correctly,
because
that's
about
81
000
it
again,
I
think
our
staff,
I'm
sure,
would
like
that
and
it's
a
nice
benefit.
But
given
that
we've
laid
off
so
many
people
and
are
looking
at
again,
the
unemployment
numbers
rise
around
our
city.
N
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
way
to
save
some
money
and
again
signal
that
we
value
our
employees.
We
want
to
keep
our
employees
employed
and
if
this
is
a
way
that
we
can
get
our
finances
in
better
shape
and
not
look
at
laying
off
more
people,
should
we
really
see
bigger
numbers
and
the
shutdown
and
things
again
that's
another
way.
We
can
be
a
little
more
financially
sound
in
these
some
decisions
for
this
budget
year.
O
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
so
excellent
points
brought
up.
Thank
you,
alderman
fleming.
First,
I
wanted
to
touch
on
the
150
a
month,
insurance
incentive.
So
that's
given
to
employees
who
choose
to
use
their
spouse's
insurance
instead
of
using
the
city's
insurance
so
that
150
a
month
incentivizes
people
to
use
other
insurance.
That's
not
the
cities
and
in
a
sense,
saves
us
a
lot
of
money,
because
if
people
were
to
choose
to
use
our
insurance,
we
would
be
paying
you
know,
80
of
their
insurance,
plus
all
their
claims.
O
So
it's
hasn't
been
increased
in
many
years.
It's
been
150
for
as
long
as
I
can
remember,
but
it
does
help
people
make
a
decision,
that's
best
for
their
family,
about
which,
which
insurance
they
may
choose
to
use
and
if
they
were
to
choose
to
use
the
cities,
you
know
that
would
be
an
extra
20,
000
expense
for
a
family
for
the
city
versus
the
annual
cost
of
the
of
the
incentive.
O
So
we
have
considered
that
and
can
continue
to
consider
it,
but
my
my
fear
would
be
if
we
eliminated
it.
O
O
So
I
would
suggest
that
if
there
is
a
consensus
to
reduce
that
contribution
that
we
would
not
eliminate
it
entirely
but
would
fund
it
in
some
at
some
level
that
the
council
would
agree
to
and
then
select
one
of
the
plans
that
was
laid
out
in
the
budget
memo
to
commit
to
for
future
years,
so
that
when
we
have
our
rating
calls
with
the
agencies,
we
can
say
that
there
there
was
a
plan
selected
that
the
council
was
committing
to
for
future
years
to
get
us
back
up
to
where
we
need
to
be
so.
O
X
Y
Thank
you
eric
good
evening,
mayor
members
of
the
city
council
and
erica
absolutely
you're
right.
I
mean
I
wish
you.
We
could
reduce
the
tax
levy,
obviously
particularly
postcode,
and
have
a
less
burden
on
the
residents
by
reducing
either
the
pensions
levy
or
not
contributing
to
the
fund
balance,
but
the
two
important
factors
they
look
into
the
rating
agency-
and
this
is
based
on
at
least
my
last
six
to
seven
years,
three
years
in
evanston
and
three
years
before
that
in
the
previous
job.
Y
These
are
the
two
main
considerations.
What
is
your
fund
balance
history
for
the
last
five
years
for
general
for
and
secondly,
how
are
your
pension
funds
funding
level?
And
I
mentioned
the
police
pension-
is
right-
around
54
fire
pension
around
48
percent,
so
it
is
hard
for
us,
and
I
have
all
these
three
with
the
fitch.
Now
we
have
a
rating
of
double
a
plus,
which
is
just
one
notch
below
the
highest
of
aaa.
Y
We
did
this
first
year
with
the
snp,
where
we
have
a
double
a
which
is
two
below
the
highest,
and
last
year
we
were
with
the
murrays
with
the
double
a2,
which
is
again
not
two
below
the
highest,
but
again
every
time
they
would
kind
of
caution
me
about
our
low
fund
balance
and
not
complying
with
our
own
adopted
fund,
balance
policy
and
high
liabilities
in
the
police,
pension
and
funding.
I
mean
the
fire
pension.
AA
All
right,
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
there's
some
sort
of
estimate
that
you
could
get
on
what
it
would
cost.
Additionally,
if
we
were
downgraded
a
notch,
I
mean
you
put
numbers
to
it
or
I
you
know.
I
understand
that
that's
speculative,
but
I
mean.
Could
you
give
an
example
of
like
what
the
cost
of
capital
would
be
if
we
were
if
we
were
downgraded
to
match
because
of
the
reserve
balance.
Y
Ultimate
suffering:
yes
again,
it's
depending
on
yeah
the
bond
issuance
right,
whether
we
issue
10
million
20
million
and
the
market
at
that,
and
sometimes
the
spread
is
higher
than
the
other
years.
But
they
say
on
an
average,
it
could
be
anywhere
from
yeah
10
to
20
basis
points
you
know,
and
so,
if
we
like,
we
did
a
couple
of
years.
When
we
issued
the
crown
part,
it
could
be
a
substantial
amount
in
hundreds
of
thousand
dollars
in
interest
cost.
Y
G
Z
So
hitesh
you
said
in
these
meetings
with
the
bond
people,
I
mean
what
for
the
the
ratings
people,
I
mean
what.
Z
What's
your
recommendation,
I
mean
I,
you
know,
we've
worked
really
really
hard
to
increase
our
rating
and
keep
it
stable,
and
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that's
been
done.
Obviously
we're
in
you
know
a
completely
unexpected
and
terrible
position.
Here
I
mean:
do
you
think
the
bond
ratings
folks
are
going
to
be
sympathetic
to
communities
who
have
a
plan
and
who
are
trying
their
best?
What's
I
don't
expect,
I
expect
them
to
be
sympathetic,
but
what's
how
can
you
how
best
can
you
spin
this
for
us
with
them?
Z
Y
And
again,
yeah
alderman
fischer
good
evening
I
mean
last
couple
of
years:
we
talked
to
them
whether
it's
the
moody's
this
year,
snp
and
obviously
feature
rating.
Y
I
mean
they
always
bring
it
up
this
thing
and
when
I
say
that
look
at
that,
we
are
doing
this
that
and
they
say,
but
yes
and
then
they
say
compared
to
other
communities
who
have
the
same
rating
and
I
have
looked
at
it.
I
mean
I
think
in
the
past.
I
don't
know
whether
I
shared
this
with
the
budget
committee.
Y
Y
At
the
same
time,
this
is
the
kovid
or
even
in
the
past,
we
have
one
balance,
but
not
up
to
that
two
months,
which
is
the
kind
of
a
standard
accepted
by
all,
and
that's
why
we
run
and
the
other
thing
I
caution
and
again
I
would
say
very
sensibly
that
yes,
I
like
to
reduce
the
property
tax
levy,
but
it
is
so
hard
to
bring
and
take
that
gain
that
extra
note
once
you
were
downgraded,
it
would
be
kind
of
next
to
kind
of
impossible
kind
of
thing,
and
particularly
in
the
post,
kobe
to
kind
of
plead
our
case.
F
Z
Okay,
well,
that's
sobering,
so
in
in
a
larger
sense.
I
guess
this
is
what
my
concern
is.
I
mean
we're,
I'm
not
sure
that
we've
hit
bottom
on
on
everything
we
probably
won't
know
until
next
year,
but
my
concern
is:
how
do
we
build
backup?
I
mean
my
own
feeling
is
that
we've
cut
staff
as
far
as
we
can
cut
them?
I
mean
we're
not
unless
other
people
have
different
experiences,
staff
responses
being
delayed,
staff
is
being
asked
to
do
more
than
they've
than
they
really
can
do.
Z
I
think
morale
is
generally
well.
Let's
just
say
it's
strained,
I'm
I'm!
I
just
don't
see
what
our
path
forward
is
to
get
us
over
time
back
to
a
normal,
and,
let's
just
say,
things
turned
normal
quote:
unquote
normal
next
fall
that
new
normal
is
going
to
be
very
different
than
the
normal
that
we've
seen
in
previous
years.
So
I'm
I'm
searching
for
a
way
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
keep
our
costs
to
our
residents
as
low
as
possible.
I
would
love
to
avoid
a
property
tax
increase.
Z
I
just
I'm
looking
at
to
staff
to
try
to
help
us
figure
out
a
a
scenario
that
makes
sense
now.
I
I
do
think
that
the
chart
for
that
you
provided
was
was
really
was
really
helpful,
but
how
do
we
get
out?
How
do
we
get
out
of
the
rest
of
it?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
get
back
to
normal,
with
increasing
staffing
to
where
it's
supposed
to
be
and
digging
ourselves
out
of
out
of
this
hole?
Z
I
I
don't
expect
an
answer
from
you
guys
tonight,
but
that's
what
I'm
really
concerned
about
because
again,
if
we
take
two
steps
backwards
and
then
how
many
in
one
step
forward
each
year,
we're
gonna
never
gonna
have
to
catch
up.
I
really
really
think
that
we've
tried
so
hard
on
the
on
the
pension
funding.
You
know
trying
to
catch
up
with
boy
back
from
the
90s
or
80s,
even
with
the
pensions,
and
all
of
this
is
at
risk.
Z
So
I
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
forward
and
that's
where
I
expect
at
least
you
guys
are
thinking
about
that.
So
if
you
can
help
me
that
would
make
me
much
more
comfortable
about
trying
to
figure
out
what
position
I'm
going
to
take
regarding
the
budget.
So.
Y
As
far
as
the
fund
balance
concern,
all
women
face,
yeah,
you
know
be
suggested
and
that
could
make
sense
that
okay,
one
of
the
scenario
could
be
where
we
contribute
only
half
a
million
dollars.
So
at
least
it's
a
right
step.
You
know
there's
a
step
in
the
right
direction
and
even
when
I
go
to
the
rating
agencies,
I
said
yes
look
at
that.
Y
Even
in
the
worst
scenario,
post
kovit,
the
city
council
was
kind
of
cognizant
of
the
fact
and
they
decided
to
contribute
at
least
half
a
million
dollars,
considering
our
general
for
and
in
terms
of
overall
debt
I
mean
staff
has
been
conscious
about
it.
You
looked
at
it
for
2020
and
even
2021,
and
we
reduced
our
cip
funding
where
we
borrowed
the
funds,
so
from
10
million
to
around
six
six
and
a
half
million
dollars
so
yeah.
We
are
constantly
kind
of
searching
for
those
kind
of
a
solution.
A
All
right
few
other
aldermen,
I
think
I
I
thought
I
had
rainier
than
fleming
than
braithwaite
at
alderman
rate.
K
Yeah,
okay,
to
reduce
our
bond
rating.
You
know,
I
don't
think
we
even
want
to
mess
with
that,
because
when
we
go
to
the
bond
market,
our
bonds
get
snapped
up
like
crazy
and
you
start
reducing
the
bond
rating
and
you
know
we
go
in
a
pot
with
all
these
other.
You
know
low
rated
communities
and
evanston
no
longer
stands
out,
and
so
I
I
just
I
just
can't
imagine
that
we
would
want
to
start
messing
with
our
bond
reading,
whatever
we
can
do
to
protect
it.
K
And
also
in
in
talking
about
reducing
the
property
tax,
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
but
we
nickel
and
dime
people
with
with
items
that
are
much
more
regressive
than
than
the
property
tax
you
think
about
it.
We
we
add,
we
add
a
dollar
on
to
this
two
dollars
on
to
that
which
everybody
has
to
has
to
absorb.
Not
everybody
has
you
know
the
the
property
tax
you
I
I've
been
checking
randomly
at
some
of
my
constituents.
K
Their
taxes
went
down
last
year,
their
property
taxes,
but
you
put
you
add
to
the
parking
meters
you
add
to
the
garage
you
add,
to
solid
waste
collection
or
yard
waste
collection,
and
and
that's
that's
things
that
come
out
of
people's
pocket
every
single
month
and
that's
where
the
regressive
costs
are,
and
so
I
would.
I
would
look
at
some
of
those
items
as
well.
If
you're
going
to
look
at
the
property
taxes.
N
Hopefully
we
are
in
a
better
place
than
some
other
ones,
but
going
from
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
that
automatically
takes
us
from
a
double
a
to
an
a,
but
I
think
we
have
to
really
be
serious
about
keeping
the
cost
down
for
our
residents.
I
think
autumn
rainey
is
right.
I
mean
I
looked
at
the
solid
waste
trash
increase.
N
It's
you
know,
I
don't
like
it
either,
but
it's
a
small
amount
of
money.
So
it's
not
going
to
really
help
in
terms
of
making
this
budget
balance
today,
but
these
are
bigger
items
that
I
think
you
know
we
can
do
the
same
thing
attached
with
the
with
the
pension.
I
I
would
like
to
have
a
better
idea,
and
I
know
they
can't
tell
us
for
sure,
but
if
we
did
not
this
year
increase
more
than
the
state
access
to,
I
think
we
have
a
very
viable
reason.
N
It's
not
like
we're,
not
increasing,
because
we
just
don't
want
to
we're
explaining
as
they
know
that
we're
in
a
pandemic-
and
you
know
we
have
our
citizens
just-
have
lots
of
financial
needs
and
we
don't
want
to
be
a
burden
to
them
right.
I
would
not
suggest
cutting
any
staff.
I
do
think
our
staff
are
pretty
thin
already,
but
these
are
a
couple
things
that
I
think
we
can
think
seriously
about.
N
If
we
have
a
change
in
economy,
we
can
put
more
money
into
it
next
year
if
we
have
some
kind
of
surplus,
but
we
have
no
idea
what
the
federal
government's
going
to
do.
N
I
mean
we
just
have
so
many
unknowns
and
a
5
tax
increase,
even
though
we
can
look
at
the
chart
and
think
that
it's
relatively
small,
it's
not
small
for
families
who
just
aren't
making
it
or
for
the
optics,
as
we
talked
about
earlier,
just
that
we
would
increase
these
things
when
there's
a
couple
ways
in
which
we
can
increase
some
spending
like
I
said
this:
optional
epd
training,
you
know
just
like
families
do
when
they
have
a
budget
deficit,
you
don't
you
don't
buy
everything
you
usually
buy.
N
W
K
AB
Making
it,
I
don't
think
you
need
a
motion.
Sorry,
this
is
kelly
good
good
evening
everybody.
I
don't
think
we
need
emotion.
I
think
this
is
just
discussion,
so
the
city
manager
can
can
direct
staff
to
come
back
with
that
proposal.
N
W
It's
just
I
mean
I've
been
listening
to
the
conversation
back
and
forth
so
like
if
we're
going
to
do
it
and
if
it
doesn't
impact
our
bond
rating,
but
I've
heard
a
little
bit
back
and
forth
so
that
my
motion
still
the
direction,
still
stands.
So
at
this
point
I
think
there's
enough
consistency
amongst
us
to
to
make
it
happen.
At
this
point
and.
V
So
to
be
clear,
you're
requesting
that,
with
a
priority
on
not
reducing
our
bond
rating
looking
at
ways
to
exactly
not
increase
taxes.
W
And
then
the
second,
we
didn't
talk
about
this
at
the
last
meeting,
but
we
all
have
projects
that
we
prioritize
in
our
in
our
various
wards.
I
think
we
could
also
look
to
do
an
overall
and
and
put
it
back
in
staff
hands
in
terms
of
our
our
capital
budget,
and
I
know
roads
are
important.
Parks
are
important.
W
Yeah
I
mean
I
don't
that's
not
something
that
we
could
do
tonight,
but
I
think,
if
there's
just
a
general
understanding
that
their
projects,
if,
if
there's
something
that
can
wait
another
year-
and
I
know
roads
are
important,
sidewalks
parks
etc,
but
now
would
be
the
year
to
hold
and
wait
for
next
year's
budget
or
the
following
year.
So
that
would
be
again
another
suggestion
that
you
want
to
take
a
straw
poll
just
to
see
if
there's
enough
people
that
support
it.
I
would
suggest
that
as
well.
A
Before
we
do
that
before
we
do,
that,
can
I
just
get
a?
Can
we
just
get
a
refresher
from
hitesh
or
erica
on
the
capital
budget?
Didn't
we
already
take
it
from
10
to
6
million
or
six
and
a
half
million
for
2021
or
or
have
we?
Are
we
keeping
it
where
it
was?
You
know
in
2018,
2019
2020.
I
thought
it
was
reduced.
O
We
did
make
a
significant
reduction
to
the
capital
budget,
but
we
we
haven't,
done
a
budget
memo
about
this
topic
specifically,
so
we
could
go
back
and
and
take
a
look
at
what's
in
there
and
if
there's
anything
that
you
know
it
doesn't
have
any
matching
funds
from
the
state
or
federal
government
or
looks
like
it
could
possibly
be
something
that
could
be
postponed
a
year.
We
could
put
that
in
a
budget
memo
for
your
review,
yep.
W
W
For
example,
that's
in
design
phase
if
we
could
save
some
money
erica.
That
would
be
a
good,
a
good
place
to
start,
and
I
would
leave
it
up
to
you.
I
mean
I
could
go
back
through
it
and
nickel
and
dime
it.
I'm
sure
we
all
can
but
I'd
put
that
in
staff
hands
and
see
what
you
can
come.
F
W
W
Q
Q
If
you
met
the
formula,
then
you
you
increased
and
if
you
didn't,
you
came
back
down
and
it
was
kind
of
a
straight
slope,
but
I
think
you're
saying
tonight
what
if
you
lose
a
rating,
how
difficult
it
is
to
get
back.
It
makes
me
more
fully
understand
how
precious
our
aaa
bond
rating
was
for
all
those
years,
and
I
you
know
that
to
me
is
the
most
actually
worrisome
piece
of
information
you've
given
us.
Q
So
I
would
like
to
understand
better
what
the
implications
are
and
if
this
can
be
done
relatively
without
too
much
staff.
Time
explain
like
even
using
this
now
like
based
on
what
the
debt
we
have,
that
that
we
went
out.
We
went
out
to
geo
bonds
that
we
went
out
on
this
year
at
our
current
rating
and
what
we,
what
the
interest
rate
would
have
been.
Q
If
we
were
downgraded
a
notch,
just
that
we
can
understand,
like
the
long-term
implications,
are
that
everything
that
we
everything
that
we
do
based
on
bond
funds,
then
suddenly
becomes
immediately
becomes
much
more
expensive
forever.
All
of
us,
so
I'm
real.
I
am
very,
very
concerned
about
having
us
drop
down
a
notch,
because
recognizing
that
getting
back
that
that
rating
is
not
as
simple
as
I
had
first
thought
it
was
so
I'd
I'd
like
to
understand
that
better.
So
we
all
can
see
the
numbers
on
that.
Q
I
appreciate
the
idea
that
we
would
not
necessarily
provide
the
funding
in
for
our
police
and
fire
funding,
except
go
back
to
the
level
that
the
state
recommends,
except
before
you
were
on
the
council.
Q
This
was
an
incredible,
incredibly
detailed
discussion
that
we
had
over
a
period
of
years
and
the
recognition
that,
by
simply
putting
in
the
amount
that
the
state
had
been
recommending,
had
gotten
us
into
this,
really
terrible
position
that
we
were
in
and
that
in
order
to
get
our
climb
back
out
of
it,
we
we've
really
struggled
to
put
more
and
more
in,
and
that
actually
has
helped
us
from
our
bond.
Helped
us
maintain
the
bond
rating
that
we've
had
and
I
would
be
really
reluctant
to
go
even
lose
a
step.
Q
I
I
recognize
that
this
is
all
part
of
the
entire
picture,
but
I
would
I
would
be
very
concerned
about
how
far
back
we
fall
by
by
only
putting
in
the
amount
that
the
state
recommends,
and
so
I
guess
I
would
want
to
see
what
happens,
what
the
effect
of
that
is
as
well
hitesh
in
terms
of
our
funding
levels.
Q
We're
we're
just
barely
getting
into
better
territory
and
we
have
been
working
at
it
for
probably
10
10
years,
and
I
I
also
would
like
to
look
at
every
possible
way
to
reduce
the
property
tax
increase,
but
I
don't
want
to
do
it
at
the
expense
of
having
long-term
overall
cost
increase
to
the
entire
community.
Q
So
I
I
appreciate
what
alderman
braithwaite
said
about
having
our
engineering
department,
basically
value
engineering,
value,
engineer
our
capital
improvements,
project
projects
and
really
scrub
them
to
see
what
it
is
that
makes
sense
in
terms
of
spending
efficiency.
Q
I
don't
want
them
to
to
put
off
something
that
then
we'll
have
to
spend
much
more
on
to
catch
up,
but
you
know
what
is
it
we
could
delay?
You
know
a
park
improvement
as
peter
said,
a
street
repaving
as
long
as
it
doesn't
cost
us
three
times
as
much.
You
know
than
to
repair
the
street
later.
K
I
was
going
to
talk
about
something
else,
but
to
alderman
wins
point
I
just
had
our
chief
engineer
tell
me
when
I,
when
I
had
a
conference
with
her,
that
it
took
six
months
for
her
to
get
people
in
her
department
to
find
the
time
to
work
with
the
levy
foundation,
who
was
spending
360
000
of
their
own
money,
to
put
together
a
bid
package
for
a
project
to
redo
the
linden
room
at
the
levy
center.
K
I
don't
know
that
they
have
the
time
or
the
or
the
the
staff
to
to
start
value
engineering
all
the
projects.
I.
H
K
We
have
a
shortage
of
staff,
so
just
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
that.
I
want
to
know
if
we
were
to
if
we
were
to
reduce
our
bond
rating
katash,
would
that
have
any
effect
on
refunding.
O
O
We
know
we
have
buildings
that
we
have
a
challenge
to
maintain
because
of
the
age
of
them
and
the
fact
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
maintain
them
to
a
level
that
we
would
like
to
over
the
course
of
time,
so
that
you
know
lends
itself
to
why
the
council
decided,
like
late
last
year
earlier
this
year,
to
do
the
city
assets
rfp,
to
look
at
our
assets
and
sort
of
right-size
them
and
reinvest
in
those
that
are
the
most
important
and
allocate
our
resources
so
that
we
can
maintain
the
buildings
and
the
infrastructure
to
the
best
of
our
ability.
O
Is
it
far
exceeds
the
amount
of
money
that
we
can
actually
allocate
it
to
every
year.
That's
a
simple
mathematical
equation
that
isn't
going
to
change
until
one
of
the
denominators
changes
so
something
that
we
are
just
continually
mindful
of
and
will
work
on
a
multi-year
plan
going
forward,
trying
to
look
at
those
in
greater
detail.
O
But
I
also
wanted
to
mention
the
situation
that
we're
in
right
now.
You
know
this.
The
pandemic
is
is,
unlike
anything,
we've
ever
seen
before.
It's
it's
similar
in
in
some
ways
to
the
recession
that
we
had
in
2008,
where
we
had
massive
restructuring
and
layoffs.
But
it's
also
sort
of
reevaluating
and
retooling.
O
You
know
how
we're
going
to
move
forward
as
a
community
and
what
types
of
services
we're
going
to
provide
and
how
we're
going
to
provide
them,
because
it's
fundamentally
changed
how
we
live.
So
I
appreciate
that
we're
working
together
trying
to
mitigate
any
sort
of
cost
increases
property
tax
increases
to
our
our
community.
But
I
also
want
to
recognize
that
it's
not
going
to
take
it's
not
going
to
take
one
year
or
two
years
to
solve
what
the
pandemic
has
caused.
O
It
will
take
many
many
years,
and
so
we
don't
have
to
try
to
solve
it
all
in
one
year,
but
we
do
need
to
make
an
effort
to
put
forward
a
plan
that
gets
us
to
a
road
of
being
more
fiscally
sound
and
secure,
and
I
think
you
know
the
discussions
that
I'm
hearing
tonight
are
encouraging.
I
understand
that
we
have
a
history
that
you
know
where
we
we've
been
making
good
progress
on
police
and
fire
pensions,
and
I
applaud
that,
and
I
think
that
if
we
can
continue
that,
that
would
be
fantastic.
O
So
thank
you
for
the
discussion.
I
know
we'll
continue
to
have
discussion
tonight
and
onward.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
it
will
take
some
time
for
us
to
get
out
of
this
hole
and
get
out
of
the
what
the
pandemic
has
caused
and
we
don't
need
to
solve
it
all.
In
one
day.
We
will
need
to
solve
it
over
the
course
of
time
and
with
some
with
some
good
financial
planning.
That
will
go
a
long
way.
A
So
so,
based
on
this
conversation,
erica
we've
got
a
couple:
things
that
you
guys
are
working
on.
One
is
looking
at
the
budget
with
500
000
in
the
in
the
reserve,
instead
of
in
the
fund
balance,
instead
of
a
million
looking
at
the
capital
projects
and
doing
a
budget
memo
on
that.
So
the
council
can
understand
that
all
right.
So
those
are
the
two
things
that
that
I
took
away
from
this
conversation,
but
we
can
still
continue
the
conversation
alderman
fleming.
N
I
think
there
was
another
suggestion
about
maybe
that
the
bond
rating
went
down
kind
of
what
that
meant
for
cost
over
time,
but
one
one
just
for
clarification.
I
know
that
the
cip
projects,
and
now
it's
6.5
million,
but
if
I
remember
correctly,
was
that
mostly
bond
or
all
bonding
so
that
wouldn't
even
if
we,
you
know
cut
half
those
projects,
it
would
not
necessarily
put
more
cash
in
our
general
fund
right.
Those
were
products
we
were
talking
about
bonding
next
year.
N
X
We're
just
to
follow
up
on
fleming's
question.
So
what
what
is
the
impact
on
our
cash
flow?
X
If
we
cut
a
million
dollars
out
of
our
capital
improvements
program,
I
mean:
does
that
affect
our
debt
payment
in
2021
or
something
what
what.
O
O
We're
losing
with
the
pandemic
so
absolutely,
which
is
why
we
reduced
it
four
and
a
half
million
that
we
yeah
three
and
a
half
million
that
we
reduced
it.
Yeah.
AA
Sorry-
and
this
is
a
question
that
it's
possible-
nobody
knows
the
answer
to,
but
right
now
we
have
unemployment
at
eight
point:
eight
percent.
Historically
in
evanston,
when
was
the
last
time
we
were
anywhere
near
there.
Q
Tom
you
asked
about
the
unemployment
rate
specifically
on
evanston.
AA
Yeah
I
mean,
as
I
understand
it,
it's
8.8
if
anybody
else
has
a
different
number.
Let
me
know
I
mean,
can
you
remember
a
time
when
it's
been
that
high
and
that's
that's
really
what
this
is
the
concern
here
is.
AA
There
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
in
real
financial
apparel
right
now
and
if
we
can
hold
off
on
some
things
and
be
as
responsible
as
possible
about
it,
I
think
it's
something
that
we
need
to
look
at
and
I
I
don't
want
to
diminish
our
bond
rating
or
get
into
having
people
freak
out
about
asset
sales
or
any
of
that,
but
we
really
have
a
responsibility
to
be
aware
of
how
financially
vulnerable
a
lot
of
evanstonians
are
in
ways
that
they
had
no
idea.
They
would
be.
AA
You
know,
in
january
of
this
year.
So
that's
that's
my
concern
I
just
don't
know.
Historically
did
we
have
a
time
when
it
was?
Was
this
high
in
recent
memory.
Y
A
Oh,
it
just
went
it
just
went
down
I
can
afford.
I
got
something
from
paul
zelmazak's
office
today,
I'll
forward
to
the
council
with
the
with
the
most
recent,
but
it
was
8.8.
We
had
come
down.
We
were
we're
lower
than
the
state
in
chicago
alderman,
braithwaite.
G
AA
I
I
am
aware
that
anything
that
gets
said
in
a
council
meeting
will
freak
people
out.
If
you
say
we
need
to
look
at
the
possibility,
it
says
what
I'm
saying
is.
We
need
to
have
everything
on
the
table
that
includes
what
was
in
the
jones
language
cell
report.
Now,
a
lot
of
those
potential
assets
that
would
be
sold
would
need
to
be
replaced.
AA
So
it's
not
a
matter
of
like
an
immediate
cost
savings.
But
if,
if
we're
going
to
have
an
adult
conversation
about
the
city's
needs,
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
talk
about
is
the
money
has
to
come
from
somewhere.
AA
So
if
it's
not
going
to
come
from
property
taxes,
where
else
might
it
come
from,
and
that
needs
to
include
just
like
an
honest
discussion
about
potential
asset
sales,
things
that
are
in
the
jones
lane
missile
report-
and
I
just
wanted
people
to
know
that
I'm
throwing
that
out
there
because
again
we're
at
the
like
late
in
the
first
quarter
of
this
process
and
at
this
point
everything
needs
to
be
on
the
table
in
an
honest
and
transparent
way.
Yep.
W
AA
A
Any
other
discussion
on
the
budget
all
right
all
right
then
well.
Thank
thank
you.
Everyone
for
a
really
good
conversation
this
evening
about
the
budget.
I
think
our
city
staff
has
several
items
that
they're
going
to
work
on
and
bring
back
to
the
next
council
meeting
we're
now
going
to
move
to
the
consent
agenda.
A
D
That
that's
not
correct
mayor,
okay,
p3
did
not
pass
p1
and
p2
did
pass.
However,
could
you
take.
A
D
Okay,
yes
failing
committee
and
then,
if,
if
you
could
take
off
p1,
I
intend
to
ask
to
table
that
so
that
it
runs
concurrent
e2,
which
is
just
for
introduction.
A
K
A
A
V
Okay,
I
will
move
the
consent
agenda.
V
A
Okay,
city
clerk,
could
you
please
take
the
role
on
the
consent
agenda,
which
will
include
the
minutes,
everything
in
apw
planning
and
development,
and
what
else
do
we
have
tonight?
The
rules,
rules,
committee
and
appointments
with
the
exceptions
of
p1,
r4
and
r7,
which
have
been
removed.
A
You
clerk
the
consent
agenda,
passes
the
evanston
city
council
on
a
9-0
vote.
We're
gonna
go
to
the
items
that
were
removed,
the
first
one
being
p1
alderman
win.
Could
you
move
that
item.
Q
G
D
Thanks
I'd
like
to
move
to
table
this
to
the
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting
at
the
time
that
we
will
be
entertaining
p2,
they
are
integrally
related
and
because
p2
is
an
introduction
item,
and
this
is
action.
I
won't
just
defer
this
until
p2
is
up
for
action
as
well.
Q
G
AB
Yes
and
there's
no
discussion
on
a
tabled
item.
A
Oh
okay,
but
I
have
to
take
about.
I
have
to
take
a
vote
on
it
right.
Yes,
yes,
okay,
so
it's
straight
so
yeah!
Thank
you.
Did
you
take
the
role
on
tabling
p1
to
the
next
city
council
meeting.
B
F
X
A
All
right
on
a
9-0
vote,
p1
resolution
87-r-20
approving
a
platf
re-subdivision
for
1605-1631
chicago
avenue,
has
been
tabled
this
evening
until
the
next
meeting
to
come
up
at
the
same
time
as
p2
for
action.
All
right.
We're
now
going
to
move
to
the
next
item
that
was
removed
from
the
agenda,
which
is
r4
so
alderman
russ
simmons.
Could
you
move
that
item.
V
G
V
So
when,
when
we
talked
about
advancing
this,
as
a
committee,
we
had
discussion
that
the
appropriate
aldermen
to
represent
this
committee
would
be
those
with
the
most
concentrated
black
populations,
which
is
the
fifth,
the
second
and
the
eighth.
And
we
missed
putting
it
in
this
language.
And
I
wanted
to
open
up
for
a
discussion
or
or
or
make
a
recommendation,
that
we
specify
the
ward
representation
based
on
our
demographics
and
the
leaders
on
city
council.
That
would
be
directly
serving
the
most
concentrated
black
community.
A
V
Yes
and
then,
additionally,
we
I
see
that
we
have
a
language
in
here.
I
believe
it's
for
community
members.
We
should
definitely
in
committee
the
types
of
background
and
and
qualifications
or
expertise
or
advocacy
or
interest
that
the
residents
have
that
are
appointed.
K
Should
this
go
back
to
rules?
For
this
I
mean.
N
Just
have
a
question:
would
it
would
it
make
more
sense
to
instead
of
listing
out
the
wars,
just
say,
ward
representation
with
the
highest
african-american
population?
N
Just
given
I
don't
know
how
long
I
mean,
probably
not
right
away.
Things
are
changing,
but
if
this
is
a
long-standing
committee
and
demographics
change
and
ward
lines
change
with
census
or
whatever,
so
that
it's
not
so
limited
by
number
in
case
the
demographics
might
move
somewhere
else
or
change,
or
maybe
it's
not
that
big
of
a
deal
it
just
comes
back
another
time,
but.
V
I
think
well,
I
I
totally
see
your
point
and
it's
very
well
taken
because
of
how
affordability
is
changing
the
neighborhoods,
but
I
do
think
based
on
the
current
demographics
and
the
trajectory
and
the
likelihood
of
that
changing
within
our
program
period
of
10
years
is
is
unlikely,
and
I
do
think
if
that
does
change
that,
maybe
it
could
come
back
to
council
for
consideration.
V
V
And
I
don't
know
if
I
need
to
actually
make
any
type
of
amendment
here,
but
I
think
we
should
think
about
the
criteria
and
the
skill
set
expertise
of
those
that
are
appointed
to
the
committee.
So
I
don't
know
that
that
needs
to
be
written
in
the
ordinance
or
not.
But
it's
something
that
we
would
like
to
at
least
pass
along
to
the
mayor
for
consideration.
As
those
community
appointments
are
being
made
and
maybe
that's
the
more
appropriate
way
to
do
it.
K
O
I
think
what
alderweire
simmons
is
is
suggesting
it
and
you
as
well
mourinho
is
a
good
suggestion
that
the
the
application
that
we
put
together
that
would
solicit
community
members
to
serve
on
the
committee
would
have
multiple
areas
where
the
subcommittee
could
say
what
the
desired
qualifications
or
background
or
experience
is
of
the
community
members
that
would
serve
on
this
panel.
G
A
I'm
fine
with
I'm
fine.
With
that
I
mean.
We've
got
an
amendment,
it's
a
pretty
straightforward
amendment
that
alderman
russ
simmons
has
offered
and
and
then
the
committee
can
work
out
sort
of
hey
when
you're
looking
at
you
know,
applicants
these
are
the
ones
we'd
like
people
with
certain
skill
sets
or
experience.
Okay,
all
right.
So
we
have
a
amendment
to
to
this
ordinance
to
specify
wards
five,
two
and
eight
that
that
the
aldermatic
representation
be
from
those
wards.
A
A
G
G
A
And
alderman
rafael
hi,
all
right
so
r4
passes
for
introduction
on
nine
to
zero
vote.
Alderman
rue
simmons.
Could
you
move
r7.
V
Yes,
r7
at
the
rules
committee
request,
staff
has
prepared
ordinances
regarding
the
compensation
for
aldermen
three
ordinances
with
three
different
models,
along
with
one
resolution
that
would
accompany
one
ordinance.
V
Staff
requested
city
council
discuss
discussion,
adopt
one
of
the
following
proposals:
option
1,
ordinance,
103
020,
59,
900,
990
annual
compensation
with
the
city
to
cover
insurance
costs
or
option
2
ordinance,
106
020
37
800
annual
compensation
with
this
council,
covering
the
full
cost
of
insurance
or
option
3
ordinance,
108.020
15
990
annual
compensation
to
be
combined
with
the
health
insurance
allowance
with
the
council,
covering
the
full
cost
of
insurance
and
resolution
94
r20
1400
monthly
allowance.
This
is
for
introduction.
D
So
how
about
I
try
to
narrow
it
down
to
two
and
then
we
I
I
would
suggest
we
go
with
option
three
or
one.
K
Q
I
would
agree
with
you
alderman
wilson,
to
narrow
it
down.
X
K
When
we
talked
earlier
about
eliminating
the
150
to
for
those
employees
who
opt
out
of
the
city
insurance,
I
did
some
calculations
and
I
want
to
tell
you
how
important
it
is
that
we
allow
those
employees
to
continue
to
receive
that
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
a
month
for
opting
out
of
the
city
insurance.
K
If
you
opted
out
and
accepted
the
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
a
month,
the
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
a
month
for
the
six
of
you
who
receive
the
spouse,
insurance
or
family
insurance.
K
You
would
get
ten
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
a
year
as
a
group,
but
you
would
save
the
city
a
hundred
and
twenty
two
thousand
ninety
six
dollars,
that's
real
money!
So
let's
not
take
that
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
away
from
those
employees
who
opt
for
that
insurance.
K
It
really
is,
it
really
is
a
valuable
option
to
give
them.
N
Yeah
two
things
to
speak
to
audra
rainey's
point,
so
I
understand
that
it's
an
incentive,
but
I
I
think
we're
making
some
assumptions
here,
which
I
guess
is
fine
to
do,
but
we're
assuming
that
if
we
don't
give
people
the
150
a
month,
they're
going
to
opt
into
the
city
insurance
and
there's
a
variety
of
reasons
why
people
don't
opt
into
their
city
insurance,
some
might
be
for
the
150.
Some
might
just
be
because
they
don't
need
the
city
insurance.
So
I
don't
we
shouldn't
just
assume
it's
not
going
to
save
us
any
money.
N
My
other
question
is
for
ottoman
wilson,
so
you
propose
one
or
three
and
three
has
a
couple
of
different
alternatives
that
you
have
one
in
mind.
So
I
know
where
you
are
thinking
with
this
discussion.
Well,
I
you.
I
guess
my
initial
thinking
is.
D
We
have
to
start
somewhere,
so
I
was
just
trying
to
get
one
off
the
list,
so
I
would
have
to
leave
it
there
and
let
somebody
else
throw
out
the
next.
N
N
Well,
okay,
so
I
will
say
what
it
is
and
I'm
just
for
that,
because
again
we're
talking
about
budget
we're
talking
about
you
know
some
other
cuts,
we're
going
to
make
and
so
having
the
same
conversation
on
this
night
about
what
people
might
assume
is
an
increase
for
us.
I
think
we
need
to
have
the
numbers
out
there
so
option
three.
According
to
this,
memo
is
295
thousand
if
we
gave
people
the
allowance
of
fourteen
hundred
dollars
a
month.
N
If
the
allowance
is
eighteen
hundred
dollars
a
month,
it's
338
000,
and
if
it's
660
a
month
it
would
be
215
000..
So
I
say
that
just
to
help
people
at
home
realize
it's
not
that
big
of
a
difference
in
terms
of
budgeted
funds.
I
would
consider
the
fourteen
hundred
dollars
or
the
eighteen
hundred
dollar
payout,
because
that
would
allow
people
to
get
family
coverage.
N
I
think
giving
people
six
hundred
dollars
a
month
and
if
they
can't
afford
family
coverage
is
not
really,
I
mean,
I
guess
it's
helpful,
but
it's
not
as
helpful,
and
if
people
are
going
to
take
this
position
and
work
long
hours
and
all
the
things
that
we
talk
about,
you
know
if
we're
going
to
give
them
an
allowance
for
insurance,
just
at
least
cover
their
family
if
they
have
a
family.
A
Yep,
thank
you
alderwoman
fleming
for
running
through
that
for
everybody,
alderman
russ
simmons.
Q
And
alderman
fleming
thank
you
for
that.
I'm
not
sure
I
followed
all
of
it.
I
think
I
did,
but
I
I
was
studying
this
this
afternoon
and
I
was
looking
at
the
the
three
different
options
for
option
all
right:
the
three
different
alternatives
for
option:
three
that
I'm
just
going
to
label
them.
That
way,
and
I
I
wanted
to
ask
jen
a
couple
questions
so
jen
with
the
option
three,
with
the
insurance
allowance
of
sixteen
eight,
that
that
is
for
an
hmo
family
coverage.
AC
Correct,
mr
mayor
members
of
city
council,
jennifer
lynn,
hr
division
manager,
so
yes
alderman
when
the
option,
let's
call
it
3b,
which
is
the
one
that's
been
proposed
in
the
staff
memo
that
is
the
equivalent
of
hmo
family
coverage.
So
if
anybody
were
to
elect
hmo
family
coverage,
that
would
cover
cover
all
of
it
on
an
annual
basis.
Q
Q
So
what
is
the
difference
with
a
ppo
family
plan?
How
much
would
they
have
to
come
up
with
in
order
to
buy
and
to
buy
that
ppo
family
plan.
AC
Q
So
I
so
that's
basically
what
4
800
minus
1400
am
I
doing
that
right,
so
so,
if
you're,
if
you
would
prefer
or
for
whatever
reason
you
know,
you
need
to
stick
with
doctors
and
whoever
is
in
the
on
the
next
council.
All
right,
I'm
not
talking
about
us,
I'm
talking
about
next
council.
Let's
say
they:
they
want
a
ppo,
so
they
can
stay
with.
Particular
doctors,
they're
going
to
have
to
pay
3
400
every
year
more
in
order
to
buy
that
extra
coverage.
AC
AC
Okay
yeah,
so
the
1800
is
the
approximate
value
of
the
ppo
family
coverage.
So
if
you
picked
option
3c,
that
would
cover
all
of
that.
So
that's
approximately
the
same
as
alternative
2,
but
that
the
city
council
could
then
amend
the
resolution
every
year
to
accommodate
for
rising
health
costs.
So
your
allowance
could
be
different
every
year
based
on
city
council's
decisions.
Q
Q
So
I
don't
think
that
this
based
on
that
information,
I
I
don't,
I
think
option
three
is
not
workable
in
terms
of
its
fairness,
and
I
would
prefer
to
stay
with
what
we
have,
which
means
everyone
gets
the
same
salary
and
everyone
has
the
same
choice
of
insurance
benefit,
because
I
I
think
that
if
you're
someone
who
just
it
gets
elected
to
the
council
and
for
whatever
reason
you
have
a
couple
of
kids
and
somebody
needs
a
particular
doctor-
the
idea
that
then
you
have
to
pay
five
thousand
dollars
more
a
year.
Q
Q
Q
Everyone
has
access
to
whatever
insurance
they
want
to
choose,
no
matter
what
size
their
family
and
and
then
we
don't
have
to
also,
then
the
council
does
not
have
to
go
through
an
annual
analysis
of
how
the
extra
stipend
to
provide,
which
I
think
will
get
really
complicated,
and
so
I
think
it
should
in
order
to
keep
this
very
clean,
and
I
I
would
I
I'm
gonna,
I
will
I
support
option.
One.
K
We're
talking
about
we're
talking
about
cutting
people
out
of
taking
people's
jobs
away
and
you're
talking
about
giving
you
know
premium
insurance
to
aldermen,
when
we
could
give
excellent
insurance
to
aldermen
who
have
families
who
are
paying
full
price
for
insurance
before
they
get
on
the
council,
I
mean.
Q
I
ultimate
rainy,
I
don't
know
what
people's
condition
is
when
before
they
get
on
the
council,
I'm
looking
at
at
how
do
we
keep
this
level
across
the
across
the
council?
And
I
don't
know
who's
going
to
be
on
the
council
next
time.
So
I'm
saying
that
keeping
it
the
simple
system
that
we
have
now,
who
knows
the
next
council,
seven
of
us
might
not
or
seven
of
whoever's
on
the
next
council
might
not
take
insurance.
But
I'm
saying
we
don't
know
that
so.
K
I
don't
know
when
people
say
when
people
say
we're
giving
we're
giving
aldermen
a
raise
when
they
see
the
number
37
000.
They
don't
know
that
six
people
on
this
council
are
already
making
in
excess
of
35
000
a
year
we're
just
like
alderman,
alderman,
wilson
said
a
few
weeks
ago.
This
way
it's
transparent,
you
know
what
people
are
getting.
Q
It
may
be
transparent,
alderman
rainey,
but
it's
not
the
same
system
that
we
have,
that
we've
been
having
and
so
and
it
doesn't
provide
people
with
the
same
access
to
insurance.
So
you're
asking
it.
Does
it
really
no
you're
asking
someone
who
might
run
for
alderman
then
to
pay
five
thousand
dollars
extra
for
insurance
and
whereas
you
know
we
don't
know
who's
going
to
serve
and
who
will
have
insurance?
It's
been
different.
Almost
every
council
we've
ever
been
on,
so
I
I
I
my
view
is.
Q
I
think
that
the
best
option
is
to
remain
with
option
one
which
allows
everyone
the
same
salary
and
allows
everyone
whatever
access.
They
want
to
the
insurance
plans
that
the
city
offers,
and
then
it
takes
the
council,
the
next
council,
out
of
any
debate
that
they're
going
to
run
into
about
what
the
stipend
should
be,
which
I
think
is
going
to
become
a
political
football
every
single
year.
Q
So
I
I
I
think.
The
system
that
we
have
now
is
the
one
that
works
best
and
many
many
people
receive
insurance
benefits
through
their
jobs,
and
people
can
understand
that
if
they
want
to
look
at
it,
I
think
actually
having
us,
I
think,
trying
to
attract
people
to
their
council,
but
using
this
complicated
plan
is
that
complicated.
Q
G
K
A
Right,
you
don't
get
any
kind
of
compensation
if
you
don't
choose
through
the
city
you're
paying
for
it
out
of
pocket
or
through
your
spouse's
plan.
That's.
Q
K
G
A
V
V
O
No,
you
did
not
miss
here.
So
if
you
are
a
full-time
employee,
you
do
need
to
have
health
insurance,
whether
it's
through
the
city
or
through
your
spouse's
plan.
You
can't
not
have
insurance
at
all
and
that
is
just
for
full-time
employees.
So,
if
you're
going
to
get
the
waiver,
which
I
should
mention,
is
contractually
obligated
for
all
of
our
union
staff
because
it
is
negotiated
as
part
of
their
contract.
So
if,
if
the
council
were
to
entertain
not
giving
that
150
a
month
stipend,
it
would
only
apply
to
none
employees.
O
K
V
AC
AC
F
V
That
I
know
I
mean
I
understand
employee
employer
responsibility,
but
I
didn't
know
that
they
have
to
verify
their
coverage
somewhere
or,
or
else
they're
mandated
to
take
our
insurance
either
way.
I
guess
that's
not
the
point
because
it
doesn't
apply
to
us.
My
concern
is
that
I
don't
want
any
council
people
that
are
maybe
lower
income
and
would
opt
to
take
the
insurance
compensation
to
live
instead
of
be
insured,
and
so
just
thinking
through
that
out
loud.
V
If
there,
if
there
were
a
alderman
or
mayor
elected
that
had
the
automatic
compensation,
let's
say
they
qualified
for
some
they
would
be
low
income
and
they
would
qualify
for
some
type
of
state,
insurance
or
other
type
of
subsidized
insurance
or
obamacare,
or
something
along
those
lines
like
that
would
be
an
option
to
them
as
well
and
take
the
monthly
allowance
that
would
otherwise
be
designated
for
insurance.
AC
V
Okay,
so
I
hope
that
everyone,
wherever
this
lands,
I
hope
everyone
is
insured.
I
know
that
it's
been
life-saving
for
me
to
have
insurance
with
chronic
illness,
but
I
do
really
understand
and
agree
with
alderman
rainey's
point
in
the
fairness
in
compensation.
V
So
I
would
like
us
to
explore
option
three
more
on
the
allowances,
so
I
think
alderman
fleming
did
I
hear
you
maybe
have
interest
in
one
of
the
three
supplemental
allowances
in
addition
to
the
15
9
compensation
package.
N
Well,
option:
three
alternative:
I
guess
a
made
more
sense
for
the
reasons
for
me
for
what
odd
merwin
put
forward.
I
don't
want
to
have
someone
taking
the
position
and
then
still
have
to
pay
out
of
pocket.
You
know
400
so
option.
3A,
I
think,
is
the
one
that
gives
the
ppo
coverage
if
people
wanted
that,
but
if
we
look
at
it
in
comparison,
even
just
the
total
cost
of
the
city
with
status
quo,
they're
really
the
same.
I
think
it's
a
thousand
dollars
cheaper.
N
V
Right
so
looking
at
the
chart,
one
of
the
option
threes
is
within
the
same
overall
cost
of
the
city
as
the
option.
A
status
quo,
yes,
and
which
one
exactly
is
on
comparable
in
terms
of
overall
cost
of
the
city.
I.
N
O
O
N
I
get
that,
but
we,
I
would
assume
you
set
aside
every
four
years,
because
you
don't
know
what
people
are
going
to
do
in
terms
of
their
insurance.
I
would
assume
in
our
budgeting
we
would
be
ready
to
pay
339
if
everyone
on
council
took
ppo
insurance
sure
right.
So
that's
where
I
get
that
like
I
said
the
numbers
are
going
to
fluctuate
based
on
who's,
taking
what,
but
so
alternate
a
in
the
memo.
I'm
sorry
in
the
chart
is
that
the
right
number.
AC
W
Q
V
As
we
have
this
discussion,
I'm
most
thinking
of
the
residents
that
are
under
represented
and
which
struggle
to
maintain
just
livability
affordability
with
this
package
and
also
get
insurance,
but
I'm
hearing
that
the
allowance
would
be
available
to
use
as
it's
not
going
to
be
regulated.
There's.
No,
so
it's
not
a
reimbursable!
V
You
know
it's
not
a
mandate
that
it
is
we
that
they
take
our
insurance
or
any
particular
insurance.
We
also
don't
mandate
that
they're
insured,
but
they
would
have
some
options
if
they
are
actually
lower
income
families.
X
Well,
I
do
just
want
to
point
out
that
so
hard
to
label
these
properly
the
cur
the
status
quo.
X
Somewhat
less,
I
don't
know
how,
whereas
alternative
alternative
a
because
it's
going
to
be
automatically
paying
a
stipend
to
every
alderman,
whether
they
choose
to
use
it
for
insurance
or
not,
is
going
to
guarantee
that
the
actual
expense
is
what's
in
the
budget.
So
I'm
just
saying
yeah,
I'm
a
novo
I'll
alternate
a.
V
So
here
we
go
so
I
wish
that
there
was
some
way
we
could
like
staff.
Is
it
because
of
the
type
of
employee?
We
are
that
we
can't
have
some
regulation
or
requirement
of
insurance,
even
if
it
is
state
insurance
or
obamacare
or
whatever,
so
that
we're
sure
our
elected
body
has
proper
health
care,
because
I
don't
want
to
get
too
far
away
from
where
this
full
compensation
package,
what
it's
really
intended
for.
F
V
And
so
then
the
difference
in
the
way
it's
in
option
two,
where
it's
just
a
37-8
annual
compensation
and
then,
if
we
were
to
go
with
one
of
the
option,
threes
is
it?
Is
it
paid
out
the
same
or
would
it
would
it
then
be
a
whatever
59,
15,
nine,
nine
plus
eighteen
hundred
dollars
a
month?
Is
that
would
be
a
total
compensation
package.
K
A
Right
all
right,
any
any
more
discussion
on
alderman
wilson's
motion
to
move
option.
Three,
the
with
the
allowance
of
1800
per
month.
N
Just
have
a
quick
question
erica
you
mentioned
earlier
and
again
this
is
all
flexible,
but
right
now
we're
at
2
2
128..
What
was
the
amount
you
said
we're
at
right
right
now
for
salary,
budgeting,
279,
000.,
okay,
but
when
we
go
into
I
looked
at
the
budget
calendar
look
at
the
budget
for
the
council.
When
we
go
into
the
new
council's
circle,
where
would
we
get
the
money?
Because
again
it's
I'm
not
cameron.
What's
in
the
budget,
if
we
made
this
increase,
is
it
already
there
jin
lin?
O
It
is
not
currently
budgeted
at
this
higher
amount.
Next
time
we
have
a
city
council
meeting,
we
would
have
to
pull
up
the
budget
balancing
worksheet
and
determine
how
we
would
fund
the
extra
cost
of
the
alternate
option.
I
did
also
want
to
note
that
the
concern
that
alderman
russians
shared,
which
was
if
we
go
with
anything
other
than
the
status
quo,.
F
I
O
No
mandate
that
that
the
money
is
used
to
purchase
insurance,
so
it
may
be
challenging
for
some
people
to
determine
that
they
should
take
that
money
and
spend
it
on
insurance
when
they
may
need
it
for
other
things
and
so
in
a
sense,
we're
creating
a
policy
for
people
to
take
insurance
which
they
may
not
actually
use
for
insurance.
V
V
Is
there
no
way
jen,
and
this
is
a
question
for
jen
and
I
think
you
answered
it,
but
I'm
asking
you
to
like
really
exhaust
all
options.
There's
no
way
to
require
or
verify
that
our
council
isn't
sure.
AC
Not
from
the
city's
perspective,
now,
if
you
wanted
to
in
in
your
ordinances,
you
could
force
the
health
insurance
allowance,
the
1800
a
month
to
be
spent
on
insurance,
whether
that's
insurance
outside
the
city
or
inside
the
city.
So
you
could
dictate
that
so
that
there
is
some
proof
that
the
1800
a
month
in
insurance
allowance
is
being
spent
in
whole
or
in
part
on
health
insurance
and
not
as
something
else.
V
AC
I
would
say
that
the
balance
would
remain
with
the
aldermen,
because
we
can't
force
someone
like
alderman
rainey
to
go
purchase
family
coverage
when
she
doesn't
have
family
coverage.
So
as
long
as
she's
spending
some
of
that
money
on
covering
herself,
then
that
should
suffice
and
the
rest
of
it.
She
would
be
able
to
keep.
V
Right,
but
I
like
I
like
if
there
is
a
way
to
have
a
some
kind
of
requirement
that
insurance
is,
you
know,
secured
with
some
part
of
that
allowance
and
any
balance
goes
back
to
the
aldermen.
V
AC
AC
It
would
be
about
the
same
as
the
alternate
b
and
alternate
a
under
option:
three
right
that.
F
O
Q
Okay,
just
briefly,
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
have
this
right
so
option.
One
status
quo
can
will
at
the
most
would
cost
the
city
340
approximately,
but
could
could
vary
every
year,
whereas
option
three
alternate
a
will,
always
cost
the
city
about
340..
A
All
right
any
more
discussion
all
right,
seeing
none
alderman
wilson
moved
a
motion
that
was
seconded
to
go
with
option:
3
ordinance
108-0-20,
which
is
15
990
of
annual
compensation
to
be
combined
with
a
health
insurance
allowance
with
the
council
covering
the.
A
B
B
E
E
I
think
I
alderman
gwen
no
alderman
wilson,
hi
alderman
rue
simmons
aye.
X
A
All
right,
the
motion
failed
on
a
on
a
four
to
five
vote
for
option.
Three.
A
A
Four
to
five,
so
what
I
would
suggest
is
if
someone
wants
to
make
a
motion
on
another
item
here,
alderman
win.
Q
Yes,
mr
mayor,
I
move
option
one
status
quo.
Second,.
A
N
T
D
V
A
All
right
so
option
one,
which
is
the
status
quo,
passes
the
evanston
city
council
in
a
five
to
four
vote.
A
Excuse
me,
excuse
me,
this
is
for
introduction.
Thank
you.
This
is
for
introduction
only
so
option.
One
passed
five,
four
for
introduction.
Thank
you.
We're
now
going
to
move
to
call
of
awards
alderman.
Who
did
I
start
with
tonight?
I
said
at
the
beginning,
rainey.
K
This
council
has
refused
to
acknowledge
that
people
making
almost
thirty
eight
thousand
dollars
a
year
are
making
so
much
more
than
those
of
us
who
are
not
married
and
do
not
have
children
are
making,
and
it's
it's
just
so
wrong
and
so
unfair.
We
had
an
opportunity
tonight
and
I'm
going
to
bring
it
up
again
at
our
next
council
meeting,
when
this
is
up
for
a
final
vote
that
you
rethink
what
you
did
tonight.
K
K
A
Thank
you,
alderman
alderman
fleming,
no
report.
Z
Fisk.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everyone.
There's
a
joint,
first
and
fore
fourth
word
meeting
tomorrow,
dealing
with
the
budget
at
7,
00
pm.
So
please
please
attend
and
that's
the
end
of
my
report.
Okay,.
Q
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
want
to
thank
all
of
the
third
ward
residents
who
came
out
for
our
zoom
meeting
or
stayed
home
for
our
zoo
meeting.
I
recognized
that
they
chose
their
third
ward
town
hall
over
a
presidential
debate
and
I
really
appreciate
all
of
them
all
of
those
who
decided
to
stick
with
logical,
thoughtful
discussion.
D
You,
as
aldebaran
fizz
mentioned,
we've
got
that
joint
meeting
tomorrow
night
also
the
music
world
and
my
neighborhood
lost
not
just
a
bass
player
but
a
neighbor,
pierre
kesde,
who
was
in
the
band
naked
raygun
for
many
many
many
years
passed
away
earlier
this
month
and
we
as
his
neighbors
will
miss
him
and
our
thoughts
go
out
to
his
family.
D
AA
Yeah
nobody's
hyping
the
joint
second
award
fifth
ward
sixth
floor
meeting
on
november
11th
at
some
pm
on
thursday
evening.
So
I
will.
A
We
like
we
like
that
kind
of
enthusiasm,
all
right,
alderman
ravel,.
X
Just
a
reminder
that
of
this
joint
seventh
eighth
ward
award
meeting
on
thursday
to
talk
about
budget
starting
at
7
pm.
Thank
you.
A
We
that's
my
understanding
that
we
do
not
have
executive
sessions.
You
want
to.
D
A
Us
so
no
so
we
do
not.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
if
there's
a
motion
to
return.