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A
We
have
a
lot
of
partners
in
this
business
with
the
federal
government
in
the
Housing
and
Urban
Development
Department,
as
well
as
here
at
the
state
level,
with
IDA,
as
well
as
at
the
count
as
of
the
county
level
and
AM
rich
is
going
to
speak
to
all
of
us
to.
Let
us
know
about
some
of
the
good
things
that
Cook
County
is
doing
and
how
we
might
be
able
to
better
work
together
or
use
some
of
our
resources
to
get
more
bang
for
the
buck,
so
to
speak.
A
We
welcomed
home
yesterday
a
Gulf
War
veteran
Aaron
Wagner,
who
was
born
here
in
Evanston
whose
parents
live
here
there
were
about
80
people
that
welcomed
him
at
the
American
Legion,
who
just
came
back
from
a
nine-month
appointment
to
Iraq,
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
I
was
there.
We
issued
a
proclamation,
the
city
did
to
Sergeant
Wagner
and
it's
great
to
have
him
home
safely,
and
it's
great
to
know
that
we
have
people
in
our
community
who
are
out
there
around
the
world,
helping
keep
us
safe.
So
thank
you
sergeant,
Wagner
I.
E
A
I
also
wanted
to
to
note
I
had
made
a
comment
a
while
ago
about
our
Fleetwood
Jourdain
theater
group
being
up
for
a
lot
of
Alliance
Awards.
The
results
are
in
and
they
actually
came
in
first
for
the
black
theatre,
Alliance
Awards
in
three
categories:
all
right:
three:
three
categories:
the
Douglas
Allen
man
award
for
the
best
direction
of
an
ensemble,
went
to
Tim
Rose,
our
very
own
Tim
Rose
for
yellow
man,
which
many
people
saw.
A
The
Ethel
Waters
Award
for
Best
Actress
in
an
ensemble,
went
to
shadonna
Patterson
for
yellow
man
as
well,
and
then
the
Shirley
Pendergast
Award
for
Best
lighting
design
went
to
Phoenix
in
all
of
her
Valentine
for
sweet.
So
congratulations
to
everybody
in
the
arts.
He
was
out
there
winning
all
sorts
of
important
awards
for
us,
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
to
note
that
a
beloved
Evan
Stone
Ian,
passed
away
recently
on
October
24th,
byron
Wilson,
who
is
known
by
many
people.
A
Byron,
was
when
in
his
late
90s
and
served
on
our
liquor
commission
for
a
long
long
time
and
was
a
very
active
member
of
veterans.
Groups
was
a
life
member
of
the
VFW,
the
Post
Commander
of
the
snell
Post
VFW
71
86
was
a
life
member
of
the
American
Legion.
An
NWA
CP
member
is
a
1938
graduate
of
Evanston
high
school
and
and
I'm
just
going
to
quote
a
former
mayor
of
ours
who
knew
Byron,
Wilson
very,
very
well.
Lorraine
Morton
said
he
was
an
amazing
man.
A
He
cooked
he
sowed
he
iron
plus
he
was
always
so
generous,
whatever
whatever's
needed
he's
there
to
help.
But
what
I
admire
most
about
him
was
his
phenomenal
memory.
His
trout,
he
traveled
extensively
in
red
Wiley.
His
whole
life
and
remembers
at
all.
I've
lived
an
interesting
life.
Mr.
Wilson
summed
it
up,
and
this
was
in
a
round
table
article
in
2012,
I
say
to
people.
Don't
tell
me
about
Evanston.
A
A
Many
many
people
may
find
my
best
decision
was
moving
this
meeting
from
the
automatic
library
here
before
I
tell
you
about
my
next
decision,
which
is
it's
really
really
important-
that
the
council
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
this
evening
amongst
themselves
about
affordable
housing.
We've
been
talking
about
this
all
through
the
campaign
at
public
comment,
and
so
tonight
I
am
gonna,
make
a
slight
change
where
we
are
going
to
move
public
comment.
A
Okay
to
the
end
of
the
meeting
and
I'll,
tell
you
exactly
how
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
unfold
here
and
so
we're
gonna
have
a
conversation
up
here
at
a
certain
point:
I'm
gonna!
Stop
then,
and
ask
for
public
comment:
okay
and
we'll
go
through
our
normal
public
comment.
We'll
have
45
minutes
and
then
the
council
will
talk
amongst
itself
at
that
point,
but
it'll
be
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
tonight.
A
Okay,
and
so
anyway,
just
like
I
said
I
think
it's
really
important
for
us
up
here
to
have
that
opportunity
so
with
that
I
would
like
to
introduce
all
of
you
to
Richmond
ochio
and
have
him
come
up
and
and
speak
to
the
excuse
me
and
speak
to
the
council,
but
I
guess
before
I
know.
I'm
doing
this
under
my
mayor,
public
announcements
is
that
okay
yeah
so
come
on
up
rich.
F
G
Evening
I'm
Richmond
Akio,
the
director
of
the
Cook
County
Housing
Authority.
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
for
inviting
me
this
evening
and
thank
you,
members
of
the
council.
This
is
really
impressive
to
me,
who
some
of
yous
been
in
this
business
for
a
long
time
to
see
a
community
that
takes
affordable
housing
so
seriously,
and
has
such
a
robust
public
debate
on
it
I
think
is
a
credit
to
everybody.
Oh,
can
you
hear
me?
Oh
geez
I
got
it.
G
Is
that
better?
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
and
members
of
the
council
for
having
me
here
today.
I
can't
talk
just
for
a
little
bit
about
our
Authority
and
we've
made
this
presentation.
Evanston
specific,
but
I
also
wanted
to
commend
the
mayor
in
the
city
council,
because
not
every
community
has
this
kind
of
robust
debate
on
affordable
housing
and
it's
such
an
important
one,
because
there's
never
been
a
greater
need
for
it.
So
I
really
want
to.
G
Okay,
so
this
just
gives
you
an
idea
of
how
wide
and
this
presentation
is
available
by
the
way,
I
think
if
anybody
who
wants
it-
yeah,
okay,
good-
this
tells
you
that
we
have
actually
17300
voucher
holders
throughout
Cook
County.
So
we
we
administer
quite
a
bit
of
affordable
housing
and
it's
really
spread
throughout
now.
The
size
of
the
circles
tell
you
that
we're
the
the
highest
propensity
of
voucher
holders
live.
So
you
see
the
south
suburbs
down
here,
but
we
have
quite
a
few
voucher
holders,
all
throughout
the
county
and
in
Evanston.
G
This
is
our
budget.
It's
175
million.
We
serve
seventeen
thousand
three
hundred
nineteen
families
in
a
variety
of
programs.
We
serve
families,
disabled
people
and
the
elderly,
plus
some
special
populations.
Like
the
homeless
veterans.
We
have
a
very
large
veterans
program,
as
you
can
see.
Five
hundred
and
fifty-six
vouchers,
specifically
for
veterans.
G
G
So
these
are
our
major
properties
in
the
in
the
top
in
the
city
and
we're
very
proud
of
these.
Both
are
in
the
first
Ward
Alderman
Fiske,
and
she
does
spend
a
lot
of
time
with
us
at
the
buildings,
and
we
do
appreciate
that
we
just
spent
about
twenty
five
million
dollars
in
your
town
rehabilitating
these
buildings
and
they
we
invite
everybody,
because
we're
just
here
this
afternoon
and
I
mean
again
and
every
time
you
go
there
there's
show
places
I
mean
you
would
not
know
by
walking
in
they
are
affordable
housing.
G
D
G
G
One
thing
I'll
point
out
is
that
since
2010,
nationally
we've
lost
60%
of
the
affordable
units
for
extremely
low
income,
people
and
extremely
low
income
is
defined
by
folks
that
learn,
earn
30
percent
or
less
of
the
median
income.
That's
people
on
Social,
Security,
Social,
Security,
disability,
so
there's
been
a
there's,
been
a
major
loss
of
a
really
valuable
housing
stock.
So
that's
why
we
are
so
committed
to
preserving
what
we
have
and
the
first
buildings
that
we
worked
on
when
I
got
the
job.
G
When
I
came
here
from
the
city
of
Chicago
six
years
ago,
the
two
buildings
in
Evanston
were
the
ones
that
we
focused
on,
because
we
we
know
how
committed
you
all
are
to
affordable
housing
and
we
want
to
make
a
presence
known
in
your
community
and
really
they're
the
flagship.
Now
of
what
we
have
so
again.
We
appreciate
all
your
support.
G
So
we
have,
you
know
we
have
a
resource
called
project-based
vouchers,
so
there's
tenant
based
in
this
project
base
the
tenant
base
go
with
the
resident
the
tenant.
So
you
can
take
your
voucher
actually
anywhere
in
the
United
States,
but
there's
also
project-based
vouchers,
and
we
do.
We
have
some
here
in
Evanston,
but
one
way
that
we
could
work
with
the
city
is,
if
you
were
considering
mixed
income
or
somebody
was
considering
a
mixed
income
development.
We
could
actually
set
aside
some
number
of
project-based
vouchers
for
low-income
people
and
with
the
voucher.
G
Basically,
the
tenant
pays
30%
of
their
income
for
rent
and
if
I
Witcher
covers
the
rest.
So
one
way
to
think
about
this
is
and
I
I'm
not
overly
familiar
with
with
what's
being
considered
here.
But
you
know
things
projects
I've
worked
on
before,
if
there's
some
City
benefit
say
a
density
bonus
or
if
there's
tax,
increment
financing
or
there's
a
zoning
change,
and
the
developer
could
be
mandated
to
set
aside
twenty
percent
of
the
units
for
affordable
housing,
a
lot
of
cities.
G
That's
that
could
be
looked
upon
as
one
part
of
the
affordable
housing
puzzle
working
folks.
That
would
would
not
otherwise
be
able
to
afford
particularly
location,
and
then
we
would
come
in
behind
or
could
come
in
behind
with
the
vouchers
that
I
mentioned
previously
to
serve
the
to
serve
the
very
low
income
that
really
no
amount
of
those
folks
have
to
be
subsidized
in
order
to
be
able
to
afford
to
rent.
G
So
in
that
concept
you
get
you
know,
the
developer
gives
back
something
in
exchange
for
a
benefit
and
a
locality
or
a
government
entity
like
ours
could
come
in
and
help
folks
that,
even
if
their
rents
were
lowered,
could
not
afford
their
housing.
So
those
are
a
couple
of
ideas,
I
had
and
things
that
I've
worked
on
and
my
career
and
would
be
happy
to
discuss
whenever
you
all
feel.
The
time
is
right.
If
you're
interested.
H
What's
interesting
to
me-
is
that
people
come
and
move
to
these
buildings
and
they
stay
I
mean
there
are
people
who
have
been
there
from
the
beginning
and
and
they're
devoted
to
the
buildings
and
take
good
care
of
them,
and
if
there's
a
problem
we
get
over
there
right
away
and
and
rich
does
as
well,
and
it's
been,
it's
been
really
nice
because
their
neighbors
and
they
back
up
to
single-family
houses
and
it
works
out.
Well,
I
mean
we
all
know
each
other,
and
so
the
the
feeling
is
that
these
aren't
just
buildings.
H
But
these
are.
These
are
neighbors
and
I've
been
very
happy
with
that
I
think
the
location
of
the
buildings
is
wonderful
because
everything
is
within
walking
distance,
so
shopping
transportation.
So
the
location
of
the
buildings
is
really
important.
So
I
I
really
want
to
continue
the
conversation
about
how
we
can
partner
with
HACC
and
moving
forward.
So
I'd
love
to
have
the
opportunity
to
sit
down
and
talk
about
this.
H
G
H
I
G
At
the
moment,
alderman
we
don't,
but
we
will.
We
will
what?
What
do
you
mean
by
that?
Well,
we're
at
work
and
I
wish
I
could
say.
Yes,
we've.
We
have
allocated
about
750
project-based
vouchers
throughout
the
county.
At
the
moment,
we
are
at
a
point
with
our
budget
that
we
cannot
allocate
anymore,
but
that
that
is
a
temporary
situation.
It's
hard
for
me
to
predict
when
the
vouchers
will
be
available.
G
I
G
We
get
99,
we
had
about
90
percent
now
of
our
money
from
the
federal
government,
so
it
isn't
really
based
on
the
fiscal
year
you
every
Housing
Authority's
allocated
some
number
for
housing
assistance,
assistance,
payments
for
rent
and
that's
based
on
the
congressional
appropriation.
That
is
correct.
So
right
now
because
we're
in
a
continuing
resolution
in
the
in
the
federal
level
with
no
federal
budget,
it
has
hamstrung
us
a
little.
A
lot
of
it
will
also
depend
on
what
finally
is
appropriated
by
Congress.
I
G
I
G
This
just
came
out
actually
last
week,
but
nationally
this
is
a
national
number,
but
which
is
relevant
to
Cook
County
60
percent
of
rental
apartments.
For
folks
that
are
extremely
low-income,
which
is
30
percent
of
the
meeting
or
less.
Sixty
percent
of
that
available
housing
stock
has
been
lost.
All.
G
They're
now
happened
to
it.
How
do
you
get
lost
so
first?
First,
the
first
most
important
point
is
there's
no
new,
there's,
really
no
new,
affordable,
housing
being
developed
or
not
much.
That's
part
of
the
issue.
I
mean
there's
been
a
massive
federal
disinvestment
in
housing
over
the
last
25
years.
So
what
happens
is
well
a
couple.
Things
happen,
some
of
the
housing
that
has
been
said
that
has
been
operating
as
low-income
housing
for
20
or
30
years,
those
contracts
expire
and
then
the
owner
can
go
to
sell
it
on
the
market.
G
Another
way
that
this
housing
erodes
is
it's
older,
and
if
it's
not
kept
up,
you
lose
it.
It
has
to
be
demolished.
The
other
thing
I
would
say,
is
you
know
when
you
have
a
so
our
whole
homeownership
rate
has
gone
down
right
to
low
levels
that
we
haven't
seen
in
a
long
time.
So
when
you
have
more
renters
competing
for
this
rental
housing
that
the
the
folks
on
the
bottom
gets
squeezed
out
so.
J
Thank
you
for
this
presentation.
I
have
two
questions.
So
the
project-based
voucher,
see
when
you
get
to
the
point
of
having
more
money.
You
said
you
put
out
an
RFP
for
communities.
Is
that
correct,
correct
and
with
Evanston
being
you
know,
looking
at
your
chart
of
communities,
you
cover
Evanston
I'm,
assuming
is
one
of
it
has
a
higher
income
bracket,
and
so
how
does
that
factor
in
if
we,
as
a
city
where
to
apply
versus
you,
know,
I,
don't
know
one
of
the
southern
cities
that
you
cover
right.
G
So
in
the
past
it
one
of
our
priorities
is
to
locate
affordable
housing
in
areas
of
opportunity.
So
it's
it's
possible
that
in
the
RFP
we
could
we
could
give
more
points,
for
example,
to
a
community
that
there's
a
scoring
system
but
to
communities
of
opportunity.
So
that
is
one
of
our
priorities
and
I
would
say,
probably
over
two-thirds
of
our
project-based
vouchers
and
since
I've
been
there
have
gone
to
areas
of
opportunity
in
the
north
and
northwest
suburbs,
but
we
don't
want
to.
We
don't
really
want
to
shut
out
any
particular
area
there
going.
G
J
And
then
my
other
question
goes
back
to
one
of
these
apartment
units.
They
taught
them
in
France
brought
up
and
I
know,
there's
some
affordable
housing
in
my
ward
and
they're
great
part
of
the
issue
they
do
have,
though,
as
people
get
there
because
it's
affordable,
they
stay
forever,
which
takes
a
unit
off
the
market
for
a
long
time.
And
so
do
you
all
address
that
or
how
do
you
address
that?
J
G
What
the
way
we're
trying
to
address
it
is
we've
really.
We've
got
some
aggressive
self-sufficiency
programs
under
way.
For
example,
we've
got
we
work
with
the
local
job,
centers
inclusion,
including
the
one
here
in
Evanston,
to
get
people
the
skills
they
need
to
become
employed,
and
you
know
hopefully
leave
leave
and
then
make
that
make
the
unit
available
for
somebody
else,
I
mean
in
all
honesty.
It's
a
challenge.
I
mean
we,
we
gonna.
G
We
need
to
up
our
efforts
in
that
regard,
because
when
folks
get
a
nice
place
like
that,
like
those
in
your
ward,
alderman
they're,
you
know
they're
it's
pretty
hard
to
find
a
similar
type
unit
that
they
can
afford.
So
it
there's
no
question
that
that
that
is
an
issue,
but
we
are
very
committed
to
programs
that
that
help
our
residents
get
the
skills
and
the
education
they
need
and
then
the
employment
that
they
that
they
that
they
need
to
to
move
into
the
private
marketplace.
C
G
G
G
You
have
you,
have
the
the
the
school
scores
every
school
has
got
grades
now,
so
you
have
that
you
have
the
jobs,
how
many
jobs
are
in
the
in
the
area.
You
have
access
to
transportation,
you
have
percentage
of
minority
residents
and
you
have
low
poverty.
So
those
are
the
criteria
that
is
used
to
determine
whether
or
not
a
census
tract
or
a
town
is
an
opportunity.
One.
Okay,
I.
A
G
First,
congratulations
on
that
policy
by
the
way.
It's
wonderful,
so
there's
a
couple
things
you
can
think
of.
You
know
what
one
way
is
just
direct
rental
assistance
to
folks
that
need
it.
So
you
know
having
the
existing
housing
stock
and
deciding
to
subsidize
some
percentage
of
whatever
population
you're
focused
on
to
help
subsidize
some
of
their
rent.
G
The
positive
of
that
is,
you
can
help
people
relatively
quickly
because
the
housing
is
already
built,
but
I
would
also
say
that
it's
important
to
build
new
because
of
the
you
know
the
statements
I
made
before
about
the
loss
of
the
number
of
units
for
extremely
low
income.
Folks,
I
think
if
we
don't
add
to
the
affordable
housing
stock,
the
situation
is
going
to
just
become
more
grim,
so
I
do
think
that
it
should
not
just
be
a
one-size-fits-all.
G
In
my
view,
I
think,
there's
an
I
think
there
should
be
some
emphasis
on
new
housing,
preferably
in
a
mixed
income.
Mixed-Use
setting,
but
also
I,
think
that
rental
subsidies
for
folks
that
you
know
our
waiting
lists
for
section
any
hasn't
been
open
in
ten
years
ten
years.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
people
out
there
that
are
really
struggling
working
folks,
hard
working
people
that
just
need
a
little.
They
just
could
use
a
couple
hundred
dollars
a
month
to
help
them
pay
the
rent.
A
A
E
Yes,
I
have
have
one
announcement,
I
apologize,
and
that
is
for
the
Fayette
town
hall
meeting
that
the
clerk's
office
is
hosting
on
November
7th
from
6:30
p.m.
to
8:00
p.m.
it's
going
to
be
here
at
the
Morton
Civic
Center
in
the
Lake
Superior
conference,
room,
which
is
down
in
the
basement
g300,
where
early
voting
typically
takes
place-
and
you
know
myself
and
fellow
community
members
and
I
believe
potentially
represented
from
the
law
department
as
well,
will
be
joining
us
and
topics
will
include.
E
A
You
thank
you,
Clark,
Reed,
okay,
all
right,
so
we're
now
going
to
get
into
our
special
order
of
business.
As
I
mentioned,
we
will
stop
after
we've
had
a
sort
of
a
good,
thorough
conversation
that
I'm
going
to
take
public
comment
to
see
this
evening.
The
City
Council
or
the
city
staff
has
provided
really
a
very
thorough
and
I
thought
informative
white
paper
that
was
in
the
packet.
A
So
anyone
in
the
public
can
see
that
and
folks
up
here
at
the
Dyess
of
all
had
the
opportunity
to
to
read
that
what
I
would
like
to
do
to
sort
of
structure.
Our
conversation
today
is,
rather
than
have
a
city
staff
presentation,
because
we
all
have
the
white
paper
and
have
read
it
and
I
do
want
to
give
this
body
an
opportunity
really
to
deliberate
and
discuss.
This
is
just
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
take
this
in
in
two
parts.
A
One
is
if
there
are
any
questions
about
the
upfront
piece
that
was
in
the
white
paper
just
about
the
data,
okay
and
just
making
sure
that
everybody
has
the
facts
and
no
open
questions
about
that.
And
then
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
have
us,
go
through
a
conversation
about
the
strategies
that
the
city
staff
put
forward
and
I'd
like
to
take
them
one
by
one,
so
on
page
22
they
had
put
a
chart
there
and
listed
those,
and
so
I
thought.
A
What
we
could
do
is
have
a
conversation,
stick
to
that
topic
and
then
and
then
move
to
to
the
next
one,
and
there
were
I
think
altogether
about
eight
or
about
ten
that
they
had
listed
there.
What
I
would
really
hope
that
we
come
out
of
tonight
is
either
some
direction
for
our
city
staff.
Okay,
so
they
can.
They
can
move
forward
or
direction
that
we
may
give
to
a
city
board
or
Commission
here
in
Evanston
and
work
that
they
would
like.
We
would
like
them
to
do.
F
A
Seeing
seeing
seeing
no
lights
on
and
and
none
there
I'd
like
to
move
then
to
the
second
part,
which
is
to
to
discuss
the
different
strategies,
so
the
first
one
up
for
discussion
will
be
revising
the
zoning
to
allow
the
rental
of
existing
accelerates.
Essary.
Excuse
me:
dwelling
units
ad
use
to
non
family
members-
okay,
so
I'm
on
I'm
on
page
16
of
32,
and
this
is
for
creating
new
housing
opportunities.
K
Think
that's
a
good
idea.
Okay
and
along
those
lines,
I
recognize
that
this
might
not
be
a
popular
suggestion,
but
years
ago
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
hours
and
hours
and
hours,
maybe
not
dozens
of
meetings,
but
at
least
a
dozen
meetings
with
people
in
a
wide
range
of
you
know.
Interested
parts
of
the
community
I
am
interested
in
in
repealing
the
three
unrelated
provision
that
we
have
on
the
books.
K
K
I've
met
with
people
who
have
perceived
that
these
particular
things
are
problems,
but
as
a
practical
matter,
it
really
I,
don't
feel
like
it's
being
enforced.
So
I
don't
think
from
a
realistic
perspective.
There's
going
to
be
much
harm
that
comes
from
it,
but
it
really
ends
up
targeting
it
might
target
people
that
are
older,
who
want
to
get
together
with
friends
or
I
want
to
have
some
young
people
live
with
them.
It
targets
people
targets
students.
K
Of
course
it
is
likely
to
target
immigrants
who
are
maybe
living
a
little
bit
under
the
radar,
so
the
the
people
that
are
targeted
by
this
provision,
a
our
people,
were
trying
to
help
so
I'm
interested
in
in
in.
In
a
again,
it's
been
an
awful
lot
of
time
trying
to
fix
it.
I
came
up
with
something
that
I
thought
was
ok,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
thing
that
I
thought
was
ok
is
you
know,
sad
gun.
K
You
know
in
a
folder
in
my
in
my
laptop,
because
I
didn't
feel
good
enough
about
bringing
it
forward.
So
that's
going
to
be.
You
know
in
conjunction
with
this,
because
it's
it's
not
exactly
the
same,
but
I
like
this
I
think
this
is
a
great
thing
to
do,
but
I
wanted
to
go.
You
know
a
couple
steps
further
and
throw
that
into
this
into
this
category.
Ok,.
H
L
Good
evening
Johanna
Leonard
Community
Development
Director,
the.
If
you
go
to
the
zoning
code
in
title
six
4-6-3
allowable
accessory
uses,
we
talked.
We
had
a
free
talk
about
this,
so
we
were
prepared
for
that
question.
So
thank
you
that
it
states
that
the
accessory
the
units
accessory
to
the
primary
use
ie
a
single-family
house-
are
limited
to
being
occupied
by
a
family
member,
nanny
or
similar
relationship
and
are
therefore
not
allowed
to
be
rented
out
to
the
general
public.
Okay.
H
H
H
The
the
the
other,
the
other
point
I
wanted
to
make
with
that
is
that,
of
course,
the
the
new
single-family
development
on
the
Kendall
College
site
has
I,
think
18
of
the
houses
or
have
now
been
built,
and
most
of
them
do
have
dwelling
units
in
them
and
I,
don't
know
how
many
are
occupied
by
family
members
or
nannies,
or
how
many
of
them
are
rented
out.
But
it
seems
to
me
that
this
is
something
that
we
really
need
to
clarify.
H
Think
generally,
what
we
hear
from
people
is
a
they
have
questions
about
who's
going
to
be
living
in
a
unit,
and
you
have
to
trust
that
the
person
that
owns
the
dwelling
is
going
to
be
a
responsible,
homeowner
and
and
and
monitor
the
behavior
of
whoever
is
in
the
unit.
The
other
part
of
that
is
access
to
the
unit.
I
know
there
was
mention
in
here
about
access
through
alleyways.
H
So
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
issues
here
that
we're
going
to
have
to
work
through
and
and
we
will
be
able
to
work
through
them,
but
but
they
they
will
come
up
and
so
I
would
suggest
after
the
you
know,
after
we've
had
a
chance
to
talk
about
everything
tonight
that
we
go
to
our
individual
Ward
meetings
and
present
a
lot
of
this
because
I
think
I
know
it.
My
word
meeting
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
concern
about
this.
H
If
we
go
to
four,
then
that
number
goes
from
nine
to
twelve.
That's
a
lot
and
that's
a
lot
of
of
I
think
a
lot
of
concern
to
neighbors
who
are
living
next
to
some
of
these
houses.
I
think
that's
gonna,
be
another
thing
that
we
need
discussion
on
some
a
few
years
ago:
alderman
Wilson,
missed
all
and
I
met
with
neighbors
to
discuss
this
very
this
very
thing
I
want
to
do
whatever
I
can
to
encourage
some
of
these
absentee
owners
to
be
better
managers
of
these
houses.
H
We
haven't
had
a
lot
of
success
with
that.
A
lot
of
the
responsibility
for
enforcement
than
Falls
to
neighbors,
so
that's
I
mean
to
me
a
little
bit
unfair
when
you
don't
have.
If
you
have
a
problem
with
your
next-door
neighbor,
you
can
always
go
over
to
your
neighbor
and
say:
hey
I
have
this
issue?
Can
we
work
this
out
and
that's
what
I
always
encourage
people
to
do?
H
A
Think
Thank,
You,
alderman
Fisk,
and
just
so
everybody
that's
either
watching
or
here
in
the
room,
there's
not
going
to
be
at
this
meeting.
This
is
on
the
item
for
a
special
order
for
discussion.
Okay
and
it's
okay
you'll
hear
people
that
have
different
points
of
view
about
different
ideas
around
around
affordable
housing.
What
I
would
just
ask
of
the
council
again
is
I
really
do
want
to
see
us.
A
You
know,
give
some
direction,
it's
a
city
staff
or
to
a
board
and
Commission,
and
we
walk
out
of
here,
hopefully
with
more
than
just
a
discussion,
even
though
again
we're
not
going
to
change
the
inclusionary
housing
policy.
Tonight,
we're
not
going
to
change
the
rule
that
you
can't
have
more
than
three
unrelated
people
tonight,
but
we
need
to
be
moving
the
needle
forward
in
terms
of
affordable
housing.
So
those
are
those
are
the
ideas
and
we
will
always
follow
as
a
city.
A
You
know
the
process
that
we
have,
which
is
a
very
open
and
public
process
for
public
comments,
so,
for
instance,
if,
if
alderman
Wilson's
suggestion,
you
know
we're
to
move
forward,
there's
a
process
for
that
and
everything
in
terms
of
a
community
conversation
and
conversation
on
the
council.
All
the
members
Simmons
thank.
C
You
I,
too,
am
in
support
of
the
accessory
dwellings.
It
gives
a
pretty
immediate
opportunity
for
private
residents
to
get
involved
in
our
affordable
housing
shortage.
So
I
hope
that
we
can
create
some
policy
to
change
the
zoning
on
that
we
have
developers
and
residents
that
are
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
have
Coach
houses
and
in-law
quarters
and
the
such
in
addition,
alderman
Wilson
brought
up
the
three
or
more
unrelated
it
is
not
being
enforced
and
so
you're
right.
It
is
something
that
we
should
look
at.
C
The
concern
that
I
have
is
it's
rarely
being
enforced
in
the
areas
that
it
is
being
enforced.
It
is
in
in
low-income
communities
where
the
residents
do
it
out
of
a
necessity
just
to
afford
to
stay
here.
It's
coming
along
with
property,
standard
violations
and
other
burdens
that
are
making
them
vulnerable
to
keep
their
home.
So
we
will
need
to
look
at
that
in
a
broad
sense,
and
there
was
another
thing
that
I
think
that's
it
for
now.
Okay,.
J
It
is
because
of
open
communities
is
trying
to
adhere
to
our
policy,
but
I
like
alderman
Ruth
Simmons,
said
I
have
concerns
that
if
we
are
not
enforcing
one
policy,
that
is
a
benefit
to
a
certain
community.
My
ward,
I,
don't
think,
has
a
lot
of
accessory
dwelling
units,
but
then
we
are
enforced
in
a
policy
maybe
to
another
part
of
our
town
or
another
community.
J
I
think
it
just
as
a
as
a
bad
place
to
be,
and
so
I
would
say
if
we
are
going
to
move
forward
with
this
after
Reed
Wellings,
and
we
understand
that
people
maybe
are
already
renting
them,
because
they
were
unaware-
or
we
haven't
done
our
due
diligence
of
enforcing
that
then
to
enforce
another
one
that
it
can
be
burdensome
I.
Think
is,
you
know
a
little
bit
of
a
contradiction
from
the
council
standpoint.
H
H
So
it's
not
like
we
go
out
and
we
look
for
a
problem.
We
respond
to
a
problem
and
I
think
that's
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
some
dwelling
units
are
inspected
and
others
others
aren't,
but
that's
just
again,
I
think
it's
really
interesting
what
you
mentioned
because
I
mean
I
know
my
ward,
but
I,
don't
know
all
wards
and
I
think
the
conversation
is
really
helpful
to
hear
from
everybody
what
you
know
what
their
you
know.
H
D
Yes
and
no,
the
generally
speaking,
it
is
based
on
complaint.
We
do
have
the
the
rental
registration
inspection
program.
We
certainly
don't
see
every
unit
every
year.
We
know
that,
but
we
do
have
inspectors
going
out
and
if
they
note
factors
that
would
indicate
that
there
are
more
than
three
unrelated,
then
that
is
followed
up
so
by
names
on
mailboxes,
by
number
of
beds,
on
if
they're
there
for
rental
inspection
or,
if
they're
there
for
any
other
kind
of
inspection,
and
they
notice
those
things,
though,
those
issues
are
followed
up.
H
The
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
is
rooming
houses
other.
What
is
rooming
houses,
which
is
a
good
alternative
to
the
three
unrelated
rooming
houses
actually
perform
really
well.
They
are
licensed
they're
inspected,
they're,
safe
and
they're,
an
opportunity
for
a
developer
to
own
a
particular
property
and
conform
with
our
our
rules
and
regulations.
I,
don't
know
how
many
rooming
houses
legal
rooming
houses.
H
There
are
in
evidence
and
I'd
like
to
know
that
I'm
very
supportive
of
the
idea
of
seniors
living
together,
and
the
other
part
of
my
question
is
how
in
housing
do
we
make
I
mean?
How
do
we
legally
say?
One
group
can
do
something
like
seniors
can
live
together
and
then
another
group
may
not
I
mean.
Can
we
or
not
I
mean
I'm
I.
H
F
N
Good
evening,
Sara
flax,
housing
grants
administrator,
alderman
Fiske,
boulder
colorado
is
experimenting
with
it.
They
were
working
on
a
policy
I,
don't
know
that
it's
fully
implemented,
but
they
had
designed
a
program
where
seniors
seniors
could
rent
together
in
and
it
would
be
based
on
occupancy
only,
and
there
was
a
requirement
that
the
rents
be
at
some
affordability
level,
so
it
was
also
controlled
as
affordable,
housing.
Okay,.
B
A
I
would
just
reiterate
for
everybody:
that's
here
and
everybody
that's
at
home.
The
city
of
Evanston
will
always
abide
by
the
fair
housing
laws
of
this
country
in
this
in
the
state.
You
know,
regardless
of
you,
know,
changes
we
may
make
here
over
the
next
several
months:
alderman
Roose,
Simmons,
okay,
alderman
Wilson.
Thank.
K
You
and
I
guess
part
of
it
in
my
mind,
is,
is-
is
creating
safe
space
when
you
have
a
situation
or
an
ordinance
or
law
that
assumes
that
there's
gonna
be
a
problem,
something
like
the
three
unrelated
something
like
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
rules.
These
are
regulations
that
assume
that,
just
because
you
are
in
this
category,
there's
a
problem
but
I
think
the
actual
problems
themselves
already
have
ordinances.
We
have
an
ordinance
about
being
too
loud.
K
We
have
an
ordinance
about
keeping
the
property
up
these
these
ordinances,
as
far
as
the
actual
problems
are
concerned,
already
exist
in
in
various
places
in
the
code,
so
I
just
I
want
us
to
try
to
I.
Don't
want
us
to
try
I
want
us
to
actually
get
away
from
from
models
that
presuppose
problems
with
circumstances
and
really
focus
on
responding
to
the
actual
problems.
K
I
The
problem,
the
the
three
unrelated
presupposes
a
problem
more
than
three
unrelated.
The
the
real
law
is
based
on
per
square
foot.
The
zoning
ordinance
that
states
very
clearly
the
number
of
people
that
can
be
in
a
dwelling
unit
having
to
do
with
square
footage.
So
why
can't
we
simply
discard
the
three
unrelated
and
maintain
the
ordinance
regarding
square
footage?
It's
it's
right
in
the
zoning
ordinance,
it
says
you
can
have
so
many
people
in
a
unit
based
on
the
square
footage
of
I.
I
Think
it's
the
bedrooms
actually
and
so
I,
don't
I
mean
you
could
have
if
you've
had
a
large
enough
house,
you
could
have
20
and
related
people
in
in
a
house.
I
mean
that's
it's.
You
know
extreme
example,
but
if
you
had
three
bedrooms
and
the
bedrooms
were
of
a
certain
size,
you
could
have
six
or
eight
people
unrelated
and
that
to
me
just
seems
like
the
way
you
should
control
the
number
of
people
in
a
house
and
I
you
see
it
depends
on.
It
depends
on
the
location
in
all
of
emphasis.
Ward.
I
I
You
know,
kids
are
paying
eight
nine
hundred
dollars
to
be
five
people
in
a
two-bedroom
unit
with
you
know
one
furnace
room
with
three
bedrooms
in
it,
probably
so
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
affordability,
having
unrelated
people
more
than
three
unrelated
people
over
there
has
nothing
to
do
with
making
a
unit
affordable,
nothing
whatsoever
so
that
that
theory
does
not
hold
water
there.
I
just
think
we
ought
to
look
at
the
the
ordinance,
the
zoning
code,
that
the
property
standards
code
actually,
that
has
to
do
with
square
footage.
I
M
M
A
lot
of
people
have
a
lot
of
extra
bedrooms
in
some
of
the
large
large
houses
and
the
way
that
they're
able
to
continue
to
live
there
is
they
have
students
now
you
know
that's
waxed
and
waned
over
over
time,
but
that
certainly
was
the
case
has
been
the
case
for
a
long
time.
I
do
think
I
agree
with
alderman
Rainey
I'd
like
to
look
at
this
from
a
square
footage
point
of
view,
I'd
like
to
understand
what
other
cities
have
done.
M
I've
just
I
did
read
the
Boulder
article
about
the
three
unrelated
boulder
rejected,
abolishing
that
and
they're
actually
struggling
right
now
with
what
to
do,
but
I
do
think
it's.
It
is
a
way
of
making
some
communities
affordable.
I
lived
in
group,
home
films,
I
lived
in
a
group
houses
in
Washington
DC.
M
That
was
the
anyway
DC
was
affordable
to
me
back
when
I
my
first
few
years
out
of
college
and
so
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
look
to
see
at
how
other
communities
have
done
it
and
what
they've
done
to
make
sure
it's
successful
and
then
decide
whether
it's
appropriate
for
Evanston,
because
we
do
have
a
lot
of
housing
stock
that
sits
empty
in
Evanston
that
could
be
put
to
use.
We
don't
have
families
that
have
six
or
seven
kids
anymore,
and
but
we
have
the
we
have
the
housing
for
them.
A
H
Don't
want
to
keep
on
with
this
very
long,
because
I
think
there's
some
other
important
things
to
do.
But
I
do
want
to
remind
folks
that
you
know
when
developers
by
these
single-family
houses
they
they
do
a
couple
things.
They
want
to
dig
out
the
basements
make
them
so
they
can
put
bedrooms
in
the
basements.
All
of
the
rooms
upstairs
then
become
bedrooms,
so
living
rooms,
dining
rooms,
accessory
rooms,
all
become
bedrooms.
So
you
have
a
house
that
actually
functioned
as
a
single-family
house.
It's
now
just
a
house
of
bedrooms
and
and
that
concerns
people.
H
So
it
goes
from
the
attic
to
the
second
to
the
first
floor
to
the
basement
and
that's
that's
the
concern
is
how
do
we?
How
do
we
address
that?
And
that's
why
the
rooming
house
ordinance
is.
It
seems
to
me
to
make
so
much
sense,
because
then
you
really
can
address
the
bedrooms
and
the
number
of
people
that
live
in
there's
one
rooming
house
legal,
rooming
house
over
on
orange
and
that's
been
running
for
years,
and
it's
very
successful.
The
woman
lives
there
and
she
rents
out
rooms
and
and
there's
never
a
complaint
about
it.
H
I
F
O
F
A
A
I
A
I
think
we've
got,
we've
talked
about
a
lot.
We
certainly
did
not
talk
about.
We
just
really
were
focused
on
that
and
then
alderman
Wilson
brought
up
the
three
unrelated.
You
know
people
in
the
house
which
we
talked
and
we
talked
about.
We
did
not
talk
about
accessory
dwelling
units
for
rent
in
new
construction
and
in
single-family
homes,
with
lots
that
it
can
accommodate
that.
K
K
C
N
Tiny
homes
or
accessory
dwelling
units,
the
zoning
requirements
like
lack
coverage
and
that
sort
of
thing
is
what
can
limit
where
people
can
put
them
now
and
in
right
now,
in
an
r1
where
you
have
a
single
family
home.
Of
course,
you've
got
the
restriction
of
who
it
could
be
rented
to,
but
it
really
is
a
lot
coverage
and
and
dwelling
units
on
the
lot,
because
in
r1
you
can
have
only
one
primary
dwelling
unit.
For
example,.
C
P
P
C
O
So
I
think
it's
like
a
it's
gonna,
be
definitely
like
a
jigsaw
puzzle
and
if
there
was
a
single
bullet
I
think
we
would
have
fired
it
already.
I
want
yeah,
but
I
do
want
to
address
the
question
that
you
brought
up
before
in
terms
of
where
do
we
do
it?
So
I've
walked
with
staff
in
some
areas
of
the
second
Ward,
where
we
have
a
growing
artists
community
right
around
the
green
leaf
crane
area.
So
there
are
families
that
I
mean
when
you
look
at
some
of
those
houses
and
you
walk
the
alleys.
O
There
are
very
large
garages
that
are
configured
as
barns.
That
would
be
very
appropriate
for
additional
housing
units.
So
it
starts
with
a
conversation
with
the
neighbors
who
are
interested
and
then
hopefully
will
move
from
conversation
to
looking
at
the
zoning.
So
based
on
the
preliminary
conversations
that
we've
already
had
I
think
it's
going
to
make
a
very
interesting
pilot
program.
If
we
can
move
beyond
the
discussion
and
actually
changed
policies
that
would
allow
for
applications
to
come
in
all
of
and
rainy.
A
F
K
K
J
My
only
thought,
I
think
that's
all
great
I
mean
I.
I
would
hope
that
if
we
move
this
way,
then
I
don't
know
how
we
do
this.
Maybe
it's
not
even
possible,
but
I
think
when
we
think
about
affordable
housing.
If
I'm
thinking
about
units
in
the
1st
and
3rd
war
that
I,
maybe
coach,
houses
rented
out
have
no
idea
what
the
prices,
but
it
might
not
be
affordable,
particularly
because
they're
doing
it
and
we're
not
ready
to
snot
registered
and
everything
else.
J
So
I
have
almost
a
lot
and
a
half
I
could
build
a
tiny
house
and
I
could
be
a
nice
person
to
make
it
affordable.
But
if
I'm
not
made,
you
know
there's
no
way.
If
you
want
to
make
it
to
for
the
city
to
make
sure
it's
affordable,
I
could
just
be
paying
my
taxes
in
charging
market
rent.
You
don't
mean
so
I
think
they're
they're
good
things,
because
they
do
definitely
increase
housing
stock,
but
I,
don't
know
that.
J
That
necessarily
means
that
it's
going
to
be
affordable,
so
I
think
those
are
could
be
two
separate
things
and
I'm
happy
to
increase
housing
stock.
Remove
these
kind
of
more
restrictive
ordinances
that
we're
not
following
anyway
and
give
people
some
options,
because
someone
like
me
who
might
put
the
unit
out
there
that
could
help
me
stay
in
Evanston,
because
I
am
generating
more
money,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
I'm
going
to
make
my
unit
affordable
or
what
I
what
I
deem
is
affordable,
maybe
is
not
really
affordable
to
people
who
need
the
housing.
O
Thank
you,
I
think
Alvin
Fleming.
You
asked
an
excellent
question
in
it.
If
you
go
down
one
path,
you
could
very
easily
be
a
conceptual
argument
of
supply
versus
demand,
or
if
we
go
back
to
alderman
Wilson's
statements,
which
I
think
Don,
it's
giving
Alden
Wilson
stated
very
clearly
is
we're
encouraging
people
to
do
it.
The
right
way
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
take
a
very
close
look
at
is
encouraging
the
permits
to
make
sure
that
they're
right
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
keep
track
of
them.
O
But
then,
with
that
allowing
that
allowance,
then
there
is
some
type
of
restriction
that
goes
with
that.
Permit.
That
says,
you
can
only
rent
to
X
amount,
so
it's
almost
we're
granting
the
privilege
to
increase
the
stock
and
all
that
has
to
be
done
with
very
careful
ordinance,
which
is
what
I
would
advocate
for
to
answer
your
question
and.
A
And
I
would
just
add
that
it
presumes
that
we've
got
housing
stock
out
there.
Let's
say
Coach
houses
that
nobody's
in
because
they're
following
the
current
ordinance,
which
says
it's
just
going
to
be
a
family
member
or
if
you've
got
you
know
a
nanny
which
we've
heard
from
other
people
up
here
that
no
they're
written
them
out
right
now,
and
so
how
much
are
we
really
helping
for
affordable
housing
right?
If
they're
already,
you
know
rented,
it
presumes?
There
was
some
kind
of
vacancy
their
ultimate
Fisk.
H
O
L
H
Because
that's
that's
been
something
I,
don't
know
whether
Melissa
you
are
Aldrin
when
you've
heard
that,
but
that's
something
that's
been
out
there
I
think
for
a
long
time,
then
that's
I
mean
people
in
you
know
two
and
a
half
storey
houses
usually
have
two
bedrooms
in
the
attic
and
they've,
at
least
in
in
the
first
Ward,
have
traditionally
rented
them
out
to
students.
So
I
would
like
to
know
that
the
other
thing
I
would
like
to
know
is
the
cost
of
construction
of
tiny
houses.
H
I
mean
what
what
incentive
would
we
give
people
actually
to
construct
these
units?
I
mean
we
can
all
go
down
the
alley
and
see
a
barn
and
go
that
would
make
any
any
coach
house
or
something,
but
that's
construction
is
incredibly
expensive
and
especially
in
in
buildings
that
don't
have
sewer
plumbing
and
things
like
that.
So
how?
How
realistic
is
it
that
these
these
would
be
built
and
the
rents
would
be
affordable
and
I?
Can
you
know?
H
L
H
Then
then
I
think
we're
getting
close
to
a
trailer
park
and
that's
know,
as
a
small
movable
house,
no
in
terms
of
legislation,
I
think
we're
looking
at
the
same
sorts
of
legislation
that
we
would
be
if
we
were
creating
a
movable
structure
where
people
are
going
to
be
living,
and
that
is
that
is
sewer
connection.
It's
water
connection,
err.
H
L
H
Be
but
it's
temporary
yeah,
but
a
also
a
movable
structure,
because
I
sounds
like
maybe
that's
a
possibility
too
and
I
don't
want
to
attach
a
negative
I
was
just
going
to
trailer
parks,
I
mean,
but
but
that's
that's.
A
movable
tiny
house
on
a
pad
in
terms
of
a
city
is
city
code.
I
mean
that's
pretty
much.
What
you're
living
so.
A
Let's
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
I
know.
We
have
a
lot
of
material
here,
good
stuff,
other
strategies
that
that
folks
up
here
want
to
talk
about.
I
think
it
seems
certainly
that
there
is
interest
in
possibly
putting
putting
forward
some
work
towards
an
ordinance
in
the
area
of
accessory
accessory
dwellings
before
before
this
council
and
city
manager.
If
we've
got
a
budget
season
going
on
right
now
that
we
need
to
get
through,
but
I
think
it
would
be
good
if
we
could
have
city
staff
work
towards
that
for
the
council.
M
Do
think
that
just
our
most
recent
example,
with
1450
Sherman
says,
is
an
example
of
how
how
quickly
the
the
market
has
changed.
Even
since
we
enacted
that
ordinance,
which
was
probably
like
20
22
months
ago
and
I-
think
the
staff
raises
a
number
of
very
good
points
here.
You
know
increasing
the
fee
and
LU
from
a
hundred
thousand
to
150.
M
I'd,
maybe
argue
more
than
that,
but
you
know
we
need
to
look
at
the
economics
of
that
and
and
I
think
understanding
better
what
the
marketplace
is
doing,
understanding
what
what
who
were
aiming
these
units
towards
and
then
maybe
creating
an
array
as
the
staff
has
suggested
I,
do
think.
Looking
at
other
we've
heard
a
lot
about
Highland,
Park's,
iho
and
so
I
think
we
should
study
that
more
and
figure
out
whether
there
are
aspects
of
that
that
we
need
to
to
look
at
to
change
our
ordinance
and
I.
Definitely
I
agree
with
that.
M
K
As
many
people
might
remember,
I
had
some
issues
with
the
current,
affordable
housing,
ordinance
and
I
voted.
No,
but
not
because
I
didn't
think
an
affordable
housing
was
important.
It
was
because
I
was
afraid
that
the
ordinance
wasn't
going
to
it
wasn't
gonna
work
and
we
weren't
going
to
be
really
having
any
results
from
that
I.
Don't
think,
we've
had
much
in
the
way
of
results,
but
one
of
my
other
fears
was
that
and
the
expression
I
used
at
the
time
with
this,
the
the
ordinance
which
basically
results
in
what
I
call
a
targeted
tax.
K
So
in
other
words
the
other
units
in
the
building
are
going
to
cover
the
cost
of
the
subsidy
for
the
for
the
affordable
units
and
that's
gonna
attack
the
affordability
of
the
building
as
a
whole.
In
addition,
we,
you
know,
we
don't
have
one
size
fits
all,
but
we
kind
of
have
a
two
size
fits
all,
and
you
know
if
you
take,
if
you,
if
you
build
a
housing
development
in
one
corner
of
the
city,
the
rents
are
lower.
If
you
build
them
downtown,
the
rents
are
a
lot
higher.
K
So
what
that
translates
to
is
a
much
greater
subsidy,
if
you
will
on
the
rental
amount.
That's
that's
that's
being
deducted
from
the
amount
charged,
so
you
might
have
a
apartment,
building
on
Central
Street
and
the
subsidy
to
bring
it
into
the
into
the
desired
range.
The
subsidy
might
be
fifty
dollars
off
per
month.
No
big
deal
developer
can
handle
that
no
problem
50
bucks
a
month,
but
if
you
get
downtown
and
now
you're
looking
at
a
subsidy
of
500,
600
or
700
or
$800
a
month
per
unit,
that's
really
that's
a
huge
differential.
K
If
we're
talking
about
smaller
buildings
and
we're
not
because
that's
not
what
happens,
but
if
we
were
your
construction
costs,
aren't
going
to
vary
that
much
the
land
costs
might
vary
of
it
or
even
significantly,
but
the
construction
costs
I'm
going
to
be
that
different.
So
the
the
I
think
the
impact
that
we're
now
seeing
is
that
not
a
lot
going
on
in
neighborhoods
as
far
as
multi-unit
and
huge
buildings,
so
a
whole
bunch
of
really
huge
buildings
and
I.
Think
that
you
know
just
you
know
upping.
These
numbers
is
really
gonna.
K
It's
gonna
double
down
on
that.
It's
gonna
be
much
much
bigger
buildings
and
we're
already
looking
at,
but
not
only
that
the
cost
to
live
there
is
going
to
be
increasing
because
they're
gonna
try
to
cover
these
additional
subsidies,
particularly
if
we
lower
the
threshold.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
I
was
disappointed
that
we
didn't
do
is
we're
not
tying
any
of
this
to
removing
housing.
K
So
in
my
mind,
one
of
the
really
important
aspects
is
if
you're,
if
you're
gonna,
build
something
if
you're
gonna
take
market
rate,
affordable
housing
out
of
our
supply,
if
you're
gonna,
let's
say
you
take
a
building
down
on
Main
Street
that
has
Apartments
on
the
second
second
third
floor.
A
lot
of
those
are
market
rate,
affordable.
Okay,
if
you
take
that
building
down
and
you
put
up
something
else-
it's
not
you!
It's
not
that
much
different
than
building
something
on
an
empty
lot
in
the
core
downtown,
and
that's
not
right.
So
to
me.
K
We
should
really
be
tying
this
to
what
housing
are
you
taking
out
of
the
housing
stock?
There
should
be.
You
know
there
should
be
much
more
of
a
focus
on
that,
so,
if
you're
taking
out
affordable
housing,
you're
gonna
make
up
for
that.
If
you're
building
out
an
empty
lot,
the
impact
shouldn't
be
as
much
on
that
particular
development,
because
you're
not
attacking
the
existing
supply.
K
I
was
looking.
There
was
an
article
in
Bloomberg
today,
so
much
of
this
comes
down
to
lack
of
supply
of
housing,
so
the
other
things
the
Ottoman,
your
brain,
you're
right.
These
are.
These
are
little
things
here
and
there
they're
important
if
you're
in
that
in
that
circumstance,
but
if
we're
gonna
really
make
a
big
difference,
we
have
to
make
it
desirable
to
not
just
build
large
expensive
buildings,
but
we
have
to
make
it
desirable
to
build
a
wide
range
of
housing
throughout
the
city,
and
you
know
doing
this.
This
is
not
gonna
work.
K
This
is
gonna.
This
is
going
to
be
the
opposite
of
what
we
want.
Instead
of
16
and
30
three-story
buildings,
we're
gonna
get
buildings
that
come
in.
You
know
still
looking
at
a
little
bit
less
going
on
what
the
affordable
housing
requirements
are,
but
they're
gonna
be
25
and
45.
That's
that's.
What's
gonna
happen.
So
if
we,
if
we
double
down
on
this-
and
you
know,
I
get
enough-
but
you
know
a
bunch
more
of
the
yard
signs
and
everything
I'm
just
going
to
remind
everybody.
K
Okay,
that's
what
people
weren't
asking
for,
but
I,
don't
think
that's
what
we
want.
We
don't
want
that.
We
want
to
preserve
market
rate,
affordable
housing.
Okay,
that
is
a
desirable
goal.
All
of
the
groups
that
talk
to
us
when
we
get
money
we
should
be
helping
people
with
their
rents.
A
lot
of
people
have
lost
their
homes
and
are
no
longer
in
a
situation
where
home
ownership
is
an
option.
That's
why
there's
so
much
rental
demand?
People
have
lost
their
ownership
opportunities
and
they
have
to
rent.
O
You,
mr.
baron
Joanna
I'm,
just
gonna,
ask
for
your
assistance.
I'm
gonna
use
a
real
project
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
get
the
math
correct,
so
we're
looking
at
two
parts,
so
I
first
want
to
address,
and
thank
you
all
during
when
one
of
the
areas
that
I'm
interested
in
this
is
an
easy
one
is
changing.
The
timing
of
when
those
dollars
come
in
so
I
would
be
very
supportive
of
the
dollars
coming
in
on
the
front
end
versus
the
back
end
of
the
project.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
O
For
that
bullet
point.
So
Oak
Street
project
is
right
across
the
street
from
Siena
right
next
door
to
the
hospital's
parking
lot.
It
is
the
hardscape
ice.
Excuse
me,
though,
what's
the
name
of
the
building,
the
Shan
OQ
a
sham
and
no
building,
there
is
a
new
development.
That's
coming
online
169
units
when
we
originally
met
with
the
developers
the
cost
of
the
units
they're
projected
on
their
performance.
O
So
originally,
with
the
116i
we're
looking
at
rounding
that
up
to
17
units,
one
hunt,
what
1.7
million
dollars
coming
to
the
portable
housing
project
for
the
purposes
of
that
discussion,
that
made
good
sense,
because
four
active
senior
building
I
could
not
imagine
someone
within
that
affordable
housing
budget
paying
more
than
1500
for
a
one,
a
two
bedroom
unit.
We
later
in
our
presentation,
I
and
I,
don't
know
what
factors
the
developers
used.
O
They
actually
came
down
on
their
market
rent
and
there
were
somewhere
between
2,500
to
4,000
was
the
range
for
the
one
two
three
bedroom
units
and
all
of
a
sudden,
the
affordability
was
dropped
down
somewhere.
When
we
did
the
math
I.
Think
Johanna
did
it.
That's
why
I
keep
pointing
at
her
was
somewhere
between
seven
to
nine
hundred,
so
for
a
senior
who
average
is
I,
don't
know
anywhere
from
a
thousand
and
thirteen
hundred
for
their
social
security
checks.
O
All
of
a
sudden
those
seventeen
unions
became
very
affordable
from
my
perspective,
from
the
seniors
that
I
know.
So
what
I'm
looking
for
is
we're
doing
these
huge
developments?
There's
always
the
developers
or
former
number,
is
what
they,
what
their
target
rents
are
coming
into.
The
system
I
think
it
would
be
useful.
I'll
say
this
for
myself
and
maybe
everyone
else
to
have
some
indication
of
what
that
affordable
rent
may
be,
and
then
a
simple
tool
that
will
help
us
determine
whether
or
not
it
makes
sense
to
go
with
the
dollars
for
versus
the
units.
O
I
think
anything
about
four
to
five
thousand
dollars
moving
forward
for
those
luxury
units,
it's
very
hard
to
find
to
define
that
as
affordable
housing.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
more
for
working
middle-class,
but
if
the
conversation
truly
is
about
affordable
to
have
a
tool
that
assesses
that
going
into
the
project,
I
think
would
be
very
helpful.
F
L
It's
bait
so
so
we're
all
where
we
read
the
affordability
levels.
The
city
of
Evanston
doesn't
get
to
determine
those
like
the
Illinois
Housing
Development
Authority
says
it's
a
number
that's
released
on
January
1st
or
thereabouts,
each
the
beginning
of
the
calendar
year
annually,
so
the
depending
on
CPI
and
other
factors.
L
These
things
will
go
up
and
down
and
then
from
there
you
can
extrapolate
the
the
maximum
monthly
gross
rents
for
multifamily
right
home,
so
that
what
the
developer
presented
at
the
community
meeting,
which
we're
gonna
do
another
one
of
in
December,
presented
what
the
2017
numbers
are
and
this
sheet
that
Sarah
just
gave
me
they
didn't
come
out,
run
January
1.
It
looks
like
April
14
2017.
L
O
My
argument
is
for
a
senior
on
a
fixed
budget
that
is
a
very
fair
rent
better
than
the
rent
that
they
originally
proposed
and
I
would
be
more
inclined
to
take
those
units
versus
the
fee
at
Lou,
and
so
it
would
be
nice
to
have
a
tool
that
going
into
those
discussions.
We
know
what
those
numbers
are
versus,
I
mean
I,
had
you
did
it
on
the
back
of
a
napkin.
Basically,
that's
what
I'm
asking
okay.
I
O
O
O
L
L
I
Back
to
the
idea
of
the
subcommittee
for
the
inclusionary
housing,
ordinance,
I
think
all
of
the
things
that
alderman
Wilson
was
talking
about,
needs
to
be
discussed
in
there's
just
so
much
that
we
never
talked
about
that.
We
were
handed
an
ordinance
and
we
may
be
tinkered
with
it
a
little
bit,
but
now
that
we've
had
some
experience
with
it,
we
need
to
really
dissect
it
and
and
just
really
work
on
it
and
I
really
needs
to
be
done
and
not
in
a
rape.
I
H
Yeah,
that's
a
really
really
important
point
and
and
alderman
Wilson.
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
I.
It
certainly
gave
us
something
to
chew
on
and
a
little
bit
of
a
different
perspective,
Johanna
I'm
going
to
ask
you
so
when
we
build
a
building
with
affordable
units
in
it
rather
than
the
developer,
paying
fee
and
Lou,
how
long
did
those
units
remain
affordable.
F
H
N
M
N
Their
affordability
period
runs
out,
then
technically
they
can
go
to
market
rents
or
whatever
they
want.
That's
the
affordability
period.
Now
we
can
certainly
negotiate
and
work
with
them
to
try
to
maintain
that,
just
as
we
do
with
you
know
when,
when
a
tax
credit
project,
for
example,
it's
got
a
30-year
affordability,
they
sunset
and
again
you
have
to
try
to
work
with
them
and
keep
those
units
affordable.
N
N
H
My
my
my
concern
is
that
25
years
I
mean
it
is
nothing
I
mean
25
years
is
not
a
very
long
time
and
then
you
have
the
property
owner.
I
mean
if
we
who
has
who
has
gotten
all
sorts
of
variations
or
whatever
and
height
and
setbacks,
and
things
like
that
and
then
suddenly
the
units
are
no
longer
affordable,
their
market
rent
and
it's
like
nothing,
has
ever
happened.
I
I
really
am
looking
for
something
where
we
have
affordable
units
for
as
long
as
we
can
get
them
and
I.
Just
don't
think.
M
Well,
there's
a
rule
against
perpetuity,
but
we're
all
the
lawyers
in
the
room
and
if
anyone
can
explain
it
to
all
of
us,
we'd
all
enjoy
hearing
it.
But,
oh
so
I
do
think.
We
need
to
look
I'm
just
moving
us
along
on
the
agenda
here.
So
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
the
at
Albin
Fisk's
point
about
what
is
the
longest
period
of
time.
We
can
legally
ask
for
and
get
affordability.
M
Maybe
it's
50
years.
I
know
there
were
some
issues
long
ago
when
we
were
signing
parking
leases
where
the
city's,
the
longest
term,
that
the
city
would
agree
could
was
legally
permitted
to
sign,
was
50
years,
but
50
years
is
certainly
the
life
of
the
building
so
and
I
do
think.
We
need
to
find
other
volunteers
to
serve
on
the
ink
and
the
iho
committee
with
alderman
Rainey,
but
I
also
think
I'd
also
like
to
talk
about
the
issues
of
rental
support
that
was
raised
by
our
guests
and.
P
M
Things
that
you
know
a
lot
of
us
have
talked
about,
which
is
that
how
do
we
provide
some
sort
of
support
to
a
lot
of
families,
so
they
can
stay
in
places
that
are
affordable
and
then
don't
actually
lose.
You
know,
are
displaced
or
lose
their
communities.
So
what
are
the
tools
that
we
can
put
in
place?
And
how
can
we
do
that?
Do
we
have
to
create
a
housing
authority?
What
No,
okay,
good
Sara
I'm
glad
you're
shaking
your
head?
M
Okay,
so
I'd
like
to
talk
about
that,
because
what
we're
all
looking
at
is
trying
to
come
up
with
how
what's
the
best
use
of
the
dollars
that
we
have
and
clearly
we
won't
find
a
single
use.
As
Alderman
Braithwaite
said,
we
would
have
fired
that
bullet
long
ago,
but
so,
let's,
what
are
the
varieties
of
uses?
I,
think
that
providing
rental
support
strikes
me
as
as
being
a
very
useful
way
of
keeping
people
in
affordable
housing.
So
I
can
see
you're
picking
up
the
mic
Sarah.
What.
N
We
do
have
the
city
does
fund
about
your
program
using
our
home
dollars
from
the
federal
government,
and
that
is
actually
where
we're
taking
households
that
cannot
afford
their
own
rent.
Usually
they're,
coming
in
their
income
is
below
30%
of
the
area
median
and
they
get
both
the
rent
and
utility
support,
but
they
also
get
case
management
dollars
for
education.
A
lot
of
other
supports
to
move
them
to
the
point
where,
hopefully
they
will
be
able
to
afford
market
rate
units
now
they
can
rarely
get
to
full
market.
N
You
know,
or
our
rather
high
end
market
rate
units,
but
we
have
had
a
great
deal
of
success
with
moving
those
families
into
greater
stability
and
economic
independence.
One
of
the
challenges
with
voucher
programs
and
I
think
it's
important
that
we
are
are
careful
about
how
we
design
any
of
them,
because,
unlike
the
housing
authorities,
although
their
funds
have
been
cut
which
is
cut,
the
vouchers
Housing
Choice
vouchers
are
permanent,
there's
no
end
to
them
and
many
many
times
we
are
working
with.
N
If
we're
working
with
people
who
really
need
a
forever
subsidy,
then
we
have
to
have
a
constant
supply
of
funds
to
be
able
to
do
that.
So
I
think
that
targeting
groups
that
we
can
move
from
a
point
where
they
can't
afford
anything
to
where
they
can
begin
to
afford
either
market
rate
rents
or,
frankly,
subsidized
income
restricted
rents,
because
we're
always
going
to
have
a
fair
number
of
people
who
are
going
to
be
below
the
area
median
by
the
nature
of
the
area
median.
N
I
Well,
I
did
put
together
a
program
called
the
Evanston
rental
program
and
it's
a
subsidy
program
for
people
between
thirty
percent
of
median
and
eighty
percent
of
median,
and
it
would
provide
a
subsidy
for
thirty
families
with
the
beginning
subsidy
for
three
years
and
it
would
be
an
ongoing
subsidy
for
people,
those
who
needed
it.
And,
of
course,
if
you
up,
you
know
if
you're
in,
if
you
you
know,
increase
your
income,
then
you
know
you
would
opt
out
of
it
or
you
would.
I
You
would
qualify
out
of
it
and
this
program
would
be
really
unique
because
for
those
of
us
who
have
worked
in
housing
for
over
thirty
years,
you
know
that
the
Housing
Authority
of
Cook
County
and
other
housing
subsidy
programs-
you
you
get
awarded
the
the
subsidy
and
then
you
go
to
rent
an
apartment
and
okay.
We
don't
have
the
money
to
put
down
on
the.
I
You
just
don't
let
you
don't
have
moving
expenses
or
anything.
So
my
program
would
include
a
five
thousand
dollar
move-in
support
and
that
support
would
include
moving.
It
would
include,
it
would
include
you
put
it
in
a
checking
account.
It
would
include
a
security
deposit.
It
would
include
all
your
utilities
and
in
Evanston
you
can
charge
a
month
and
a
half
security
deposit.
So
five
thousand
dollars
for
all
of
those
assistance
would
leave
a
person
of
very
modest.
I
We
would
start
out
with
a
million
from
what
I'm,
assuming
would
be
the
cash
contribution
from
831,
Emerson
and
I
understand
that
project
did
closed
this
past
week
and
there
there
would
be
ongoing
money
if
we
were
really
serious
about
committing
money
from
either
the
contributions
from
developers
or
taking
a
mix
of
developer
contributions
and
real
estate
transfer
text.
We
will
always
have
a
real
estate
transfer
text
and
every
time
I've
ever
mentioned
this
possibility
to
Serra
flat.
She
has
always
said
we
can't
do
this,
because
we
don't
have
an
ongoing
source
of
funds.
I
We
do
have
an
ongoing
source
of
funds
if
we
are
serious
about
and
I
just
love
the
fact
that
the
housing
authority
director
was
here
tonight
because
the
only
way
really
to
to
help
people
in
this
income
bracket
is
to
give
them
money.
It
takes
money.
We
have
housing
and
ovens
that
we
cannot.
We
cannot
build
housing
for
these
30
families
overnight,
but
you
actually
can
give
30
families
a
subsidy
overnight.
I
You
know
going
out
and
finding
foundation
money
to
you
know,
hire
a
janitor
you're
going
to
be
living
in
a
and
a
for-profit
unit,
with
a
professional
management
company
taking
care
of
the
building,
and
it's
the
own.
The
only
way
you
can
have
decent
housing
is
with
good
management
and
a
professional
situation
with
a
decent
rent,
and
this
provides
for
a
decent
market
rent
it-
and
you
know
it's
I-
think
it's
the
only
way
to
go,
and
we
can
do
it.
I
We
have
the
money
to
do
it
and
we're
not
dependent
on
the
federal
government
and,
like
the
director
said,
you
know
he
doesn't
know
where
his
next
batch
is
gonna
come
from.
We
do.
We
know
where
I
next
without
you
is
gonna
come
from
and
Evanston
so
I
would
really
encourage
us
I.
You
know
and
I
I'm.
You
know
none
of
this
business
with
you.
You
know
you've
got
to
you
know
you
can't
be
a
felon.
You
can't
be
this.
You
can't
be
that
you
can't
have
not
been
evicted
from
anyplace.
I
A
I
I
A
C
C
A
C
I
do
I
do
want
to
talk
about
it
so
with
the
fund.
I
think
that
that's
that's
a
great
idea
for
additional
rental
assistance,
but
the
the
great
wealth
divide
that
we
have
here
really
is
because
of
the
loss
of
homeownership
amongst
minority
and
moderate
income
families.
So
I
think
that
we
should
look
at
ways
to
expand
homeownership
opportunities.
I
know
that
we
had
programs
in
the
past
I'm,
not
sure
why
they
failed
or
why
they
expired,
but
maybe
an
updated
version
of
downpayment
assistance
from
first-time
homebuyers
financial
literacy.
C
C
Carla
Sutton
and
miss
Payton's
properties.
Miss
Peyton,
for
example,
has
27
units
and
the
majority
of
them
are
affordable.
Units
and
she's
been
doing
this
for
years
at
her
own
expense,
and
we
can't
support
her
in
roof
repair,
but
we
can
improve
facades
and
and
give
other
nonprofits
with
robust
budgets
subsidies
for
them
to
go
on
rent
unit.
So
I
think
this
is
something
that
has
been
overlooked
and
I
would
like
us
to
include
this
in
our
our
support
of
affordable
housing
for
existing
units.
F
H
D
N
Have
not
had
one
specifically
with
first
Bank
and
Trust.
We
are
talking
to
them.
They
are
looking
to
start
a
down
payment
or
homebuyer
program.
They
are
members
of
the
Federal
Home
Loan
Bank,
which
gives
them
access
to.
They
can
apply
for
money
to
do
that.
Our
homebuyer
programs
in
the
past
were
funded
primarily
through
our
home
program.
The
income
cap
for
home
is
eighty
percent
of
area
median,
which
really
makes
it
impractical.
N
A
Can
we
have
a
conversation
here
about
expanded
revenues
for
affordable
housing?
This
was
on
page
eighteen
and
almond.
Rainy
also
raised
the
the
question
about
transfer
fees,
because
the
deal
right
now
is
everyone
knows,
is
money
that
goes
into
the
affordable.
Housing
fund
comes
off
of
new
development,
new
multi-unit
development
and
and
we've
had
some
conversation
in
terms
of
our
infertile
and
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
and
some
thoughts
there
about
whether
you
raise
or
whether
you
keep
it
where
it
is
so.
I
open
this
for
discussion
about
expanded
revenues.
J
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
go
over
ie
Jo.
Obviously,
cuz
we're
gonna
have
a
subcommittee
I.
Do
like
the
cells
transfer,
tax,
I,
don't
know
where
that
money
currently
is
allocated,
but
it
seems
like
if
you
were
paying
that
tax
and
asked
you
with
your
home
there's
a
way
we
could
make.
It
make
sense
to
go
into
our
affordable
housing
fund
to
be
utilized
for
a
variety
of
things.
J
But-
and
this
is
not
my
own
idea-
actually
a
neighbor-
no
no
a
neighbor
mentioned
it
to
me.
Cuz.
She
walks
her
dog
past
this
area
and
I
brought
it
up
with
aldermen
wind,
because
it's
in
her
ward
and
she
had
had
a
Congress
with
a
city
staffer
about
it,
but
I
just
put
the
numbers
together.
So
this
is
our
parking
lot
number
one.
J
That's
one
South
Boulevard
right
at
the
dead
end
of
Hinman
and
it's
you
know
fairly
good-sized
parking
lot
and
it's
way:
underutilized
cuz,
I,
Drive,
past
there
and
so
I
have
the
numbers
there
in
terms
of
how
many
spaces
are
rented
out
behind
it
is
the
Calvary
Cemetery
on
the
left.
Side
is
Cook,
County,
Housing,
Authority,
I,
think
they're
townhouses,
the
next
building
I
think
is
owned
by
the
archdiocese,
but
I
couldn't
figure
it
out,
but
anyhow.
So
this
is
a
parcel
of
land
that
we
have
I
looked
in
some
other
communities.
J
They
have
done
land,
swaps
and
and
things,
but
I
would
imagine
we
could
go
to
an
RFP,
as
we
did
like
for
the
library
parking
lot
and
such
and
get
some
affordable
housing
built
there
I'm
fully
aware
of
us
being
a
community
of
a
little
bit
of
contradiction.
So
we
like
affordable
housing,
but
maybe
not
right
next
to
us.
So
I
think
we
have
to
deal
with
that.
A
little
bit.
I.
J
Think
in
my
thought.
This
could
be
something
of
more
of
a
time-sensitive,
so
kind
of
a
time-limited.
So
a
little
bit
of
a
step
up.
I
am
very
clear
that
there
are
people
who
are
not
ever
going
to
have
to
pay
for
market
rent,
and
so
all
the
Meereenese
program
will
be
great
for
those
families
or
those
individuals.
But
something
like
this
could
be
intergenerational.
So
we
could
have
some
seniors.
J
There's
lots
of
studies
about
the
importance
of
seniors
living
with
young
people
so
that
we
can
have
some
accessory
first
floor,
accessible
units
for
seniors
and
maybe
obviously
those
are
not
time
sensitive
because
we
don't
want
seniors.
You
know
having
to
move
a
lot,
but
then
we
can
have
some
units.
There
are
larger
for
families.
J
J
If
we
have
another
subcommittee
that
we
can
look
at
how
to
really
utilize
some
of
our
land
that
we
own
here,
because
I
don't
I,
don't
know
that
we're
gonna
have
a
huge
influx
of
dollars
coming
in,
but
we
do
have
some
resources
that
are
not
dollars
that
we
can
start
using.
But
again,
I
think
we
have
to
have
an
honest
conversation
about
where
those
parking
lots
that
we
went
that
route
or
where
some
underdeveloped
parkland
is
that
we
might
want
to
use.
J
If
we
really
as
a
community,
want
to
make
this
commitment
and
diversify
we're
affordable
housing
is
it
means
that
it's
everywhere
and
we
don't
get
to
say
you
know
I
really
like
it,
but
not
near
the
beach
or
I,
really
like
it.
But
not
you
know
ever
whatever
we
might
say
in
our
mind
or
I
would
like
to
have
it
for
seniors
next
to
me,
but
not
for
kids,
or
you
know
all
those
things
that
we
don't
talk
about.
J
M
M
I
did
want
to
say
that
Oliver,
Fleming
and
I
have
discussed
this
lot.
The
city
actually
has
discussed
this
lot.
A
lot
one
or
sixty
I
can't
remember
which
one
it
is
many
many
times
it's
underutilized.
We
have
looked
at
what
to
do
about
it
in
terms
of
it's
a
parcel,
that's
owned
by
the
city.
We
don't
actually
have
very
many
parcels
that
are
owned
by
the
city
that
are
underutilized
and
Paul.
Salma,
SEC
and
I
have
discussed
this
a
number
of
times.
M
It
hasn't
been
discussed
by
the
community,
so
I
don't
want
to
set
off
alarm
bells
with
anyone.
I
would
like
to
say
that
there
is
Cook
County
housing
right
there
and
I
have
never
had
a
single
call
of
any
sort
from
any
neighbor
about
it.
So
I
there's
a
lot
of,
but
there
has
been
interest
over
time
about
this
this
lot,
and
so
there
we
we've
had
some
discussion
at
the
city
staff
about
potential
ways
to
increase
the
use
of
this.
M
In
a
way,
that's
valuable
to
the
city
and
I'm
happy
to
talk
to
any
of
my
residents
about
ideas
about
this.
You
know
I
know
a
number,
the
people
who
live
right
in
that
area
and
there
and
there
are
some
other
underutilized
buildings
towards
the
corner
as
well.
So
we're
looking
you
know,
always
at
you
know,
ways
to
improve
Evanston.
J
M
R4,
so
it
would
allow
for
multifamily
and
then
to
the
to
the
east
of
it
is
single-family
actually
or
some
multifamily,
but
directly
east
of
it
a
single-family.
So
this
is
this
is
one
of
the
ideas:
I,
don't
actually
ultimate
lemon
and
I
will
say:
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
underutilized
parkland
anywhere,
not
in
the
Third
Ward,
at
least
okay
you're
on
your
own,
on
that
one,
okay
or.
K
Alright
hold
him
in
Wilford
I,
thank
you
and,
and
all
a
lot
of
really
good
points.
One
more
modest
point,
but
I
appreciate
this
idea
of
the
instruction
the
impact
fee
differently
and
the
teardown
fee
differently.
One
thing
I
would
like
you
to
consider
or
like
our
staff
to
consider,
is
to
its
on
page
eighteen
in
addition
to
looking
at
charging
on
the
per
square
foot
basis.
K
Maybe
we
can
make
this
a
hybrid,
not
just
per
square
foot,
but
base
it
on
the
the
permit
fees,
so,
in
other
words,
if
somebody's
building
a
super
expensive
building,
it
would
be
more
and
if
they
choose
to
build
a
photo
housing,
it
would
be
a
lot
less.
So
I'm,
not
sure
what
that
looks
like,
but
I
think
if
we,
if
we
kind
of
you
know,
put
both
of
those
thing,
do
you
have
a
problem
with
that
Oh
like
something
else:
okay,
I
thought:
I
heard
a
noise.
K
A
Okay,
so
let's
do
this,
I
mean
the
city
staff.
Has
a
lot
of
things
folks
have
read
up
here:
I
think
we've
covered
a
lot
of
the
larger
ones
that
they
had
put
up
front.
Are
there
other
items
here
that
people
would
like
to
comment
on
and
if
not
then
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
open
this
to
public
comment
and
we'll
start
the
public
comment
period,
I.
J
Just
have
a
question:
no,
this
is
just
a
discussion,
but
we
right
now
we
have
the
subcommittee
for
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
kind
of.
If
you
can
remind
me
with
our
direction,
are
we
gonna
man
it
we're
gonna
have
public
comment,
but
the
ultime
Rainey
made
a
great
presentation
here.
We
cuz
they're
gonna,
be
a
second
meeting
to
discuss
those
we're
gonna
go
to
another
subcommittee.
I
just
want
to
be
kind
of
clear.
Some
people
don't
think
we
just
came
and
talked
exactly.
A
If
it's
just
a
subcommittee
of
the
council,
if
there
are
other
folks
that
you
would
want
on
that
subcommittee
and
so
what
I
would
what
I
would
suggest
is
perhaps
if
people
don't
have
anything
else,
we
go
to
public
comment
and
we
hear
from
we
hear
from
the
public
and
then
we'll
have
a
conversation
after
the
completion
of
public
comment,
just
to
wrap
up
some
of
these
loose
loose
ends,
okay
and
in
next
steps.
It's
that
sound,
okay.
Alright,
then,
with
that,
we
will
go
to
public
comment
real
quickly,
give
me
one
sec.
A
Okay,
we've
had
21
folks
sign
up
for
public
comment
tonight,
as
everybody
I
think
knows,
our
rules
around
public
comments.
We
had
we
allocate
45
minutes
for
public
comment
and
then
we
do
some
quick
math
of
everybody.
So
what
I'm
going
to
ask
tonight,
given
that
we've
got
21
folks,
if
everyone
can
keep
their
comments
to
two
minutes
all
right
and
well,
we
met
a
little
timer
up
here.
A
I'll,
give
you
a
little
nudge
if
you're,
if
you're
about
to
hit
that
two-minute
mark
and
then,
if
you
can
wrap
it
up
real
quickly
after
that
and
we're
really
looking
forward
to
your
feedback
and
I,
really
appreciate
everybody.
I
know
there
were
some
other
folks
that
had
to
leave,
but
that
so
many
people
came
to
this
meeting
and
they're
really
committed
to
this
issue.
So
it's
sort
of
nice
that
you've
had
an
opportunity
here.
A
The
council
talked
tonight
and
now
you
get
the
opportunity
to
come
up
and
give
some
thoughts
here
and
then,
like
I
said,
will
then
have
some
final
conversation
up
here
in
next
steps.
Okay,
so
with
that
the
speakers
we
have
I'll
do
them
off
in
orders
of
three.
So
you
know
if
you're
on
deck
we've
got,
it
looks
like
Sewell
ala:
Bock
wants
to
go
first,
then
Bobby
burns
and
then
Sarah,
Vander,
wicker
and
again
I
apologize
if
I'm
mispronouncing
people's
names
or
I
can't
read
the
writing
here.
R
Okay,
mayor
haggerty's,
councilmembers
click,
read
manager,
Bob
quits.
Thank
you
for
having
this
meeting
tonight.
We
are
very
encouraged
to
see
this
discussion
about
affordable
housing
and
I
would
just
like
to
point
out
that
Bobby
burns
asked
me
to
go.
First,
I
didn't
like
demand
to
go
first,
so
I
work
at
connections
for
the
homeless.
Obviously
affordable
housing
is
probably
the
biggest
thing
that
we
deal
with
is
a
barrier
we
have
developed
a
coalition
called
joining
forces
for
affordable
housing
about
30,
nonprofits
and
communities
of
faith
are
all
working
on
advocacy.
R
We
did
send
you
a
letter
before
this
meeting
and
asking
that
you
really
focus
on
three
things
in
particular
tonight.
In
addition
to
the
very
good
discussion
that
I
think
you've
been
having
one
is
to,
please
define
the
first
step
to
creating
some
long-range
plans
for
affordable
housing
with
very
tangible
implementation
steps.
The
second
one
is
to
take
the
first
steps
to
find
the
first
steps
for
creating
guidelines
that
you
can
use
now,
while
you
have
to
make
decisions
related
to
affordable
housing.
R
Before
that
long
term
plan
is
created
and
three
define
what
the
next
steps
are
for.
Addressing
the
weaknesses
and
the
current
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
so
it
sounds
like
you've
started.
Some
of
that
and
I
hope
that
by
the
end
of
the
evening,
we
have
those
first
steps
to
find
the
other
thing
I'd
like
to
is.
R
There
is
no
one
solution.
We
can't
rely
just
on
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
on
ancillary
structures
on
landlord
incentives.
No
one
of
these
no
two
of
these
no
three
of
these
is
the
the
solution
you
need
to
use
every
single
tool.
That's
in
your
toolbox!
You
need
to
find
more
tools.
You
need
to
find
more
partners,
you
need
to
layer
things.
This
is
a
very
complex
issue
and
I
think
this
discussion
is
a
very
good
start.
So
thank
you
and
please
consider
us
and
the
other
advocates
that
we're
working
with
one
of
your
resources.
Thank.
A
F
S
Yeah
I
want
to
sue
the
bat
first
on
this
issue,
she's
a
much
stronger
hitter
on
affordable
housing
issues,
so
I
wanted
to
take
the
the
second
batter
up.
I
just
wanted
to
say.
First
off,
you
know
it
seems
one
of
our
biggest
issues
with
this
and
we
know
the
council
first
of
all,
members
of
the
council.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
city
clerk
read.
S
Is
that
it's
a
big
revenue
issue,
and
so
you
know
I've
had
conversations
in
the
community
about
you
know
how
do
we
get
a
large
enough
revenue
stream
in
order
to
to
really
satisfy
this
need
in
the
way
that
we
have
I?
Think
everybody
knows,
especially
with
the
african-american
community,
we've
seen
the
next
to
this
and
I.
Don't
think
that
we
can
afford
at
this
point
to
take
this
things
too
slowly,
because
every
single
day
people
are
leaving
and
I
think
they're,
leaving
at
a
faster
rate,
then
we
can
even
keep
up
with
that.
S
We
even
understand
there
are
some
things
that
I
think
we
can
look
at
and
I,
don't
know
which
one
of
these
or
maybe
a
combination
of
all
of
them,
but
it
was
saying
that
one
of
the
one
revenue
option
would
be
this.
This
old,
you
know
question
about
Northwestern
I
know
there
was
a
conversation
recently
about.
S
There
are
two
properties:
I
believe
that,
were
they
wanted
what
they
were
interested
in
purchasing
and
we
were
thinking
about
making
them
kind
of
pay
to
keep
it
or
to
get
it
on
the
tax
roll
I'm,
not
sure
what
happened
with
that
conversation
and
I
know.
In
reading
we
weren't
it
wasn't
very
clear
on
whether
or
not
that
was
gonna
be
an
ongoing
agreement
or
if
it
would
expire
and
so
again,
are
we
going
to
aggressively
kind
of
pursue
that
opportunity
with
Northwestern
positioning
and
saying
look
with
any
property
that
you
want
to
purchase.
S
We
need
to
keep
it
on
the
tax
roll,
so
I
wonder
where
the
conversation
is
going
to
go
with
that,
and
so
there's
some
other
different
opportunities,
but
going
to
the
next
thing.
Next
thing,
I
think
is:
there's
a
tech
solution
here.
The
clerk
and
I
have
met
a
lot
with
for
two
hours
and
experts
during
the
beginning
of
his
term
and
I.
Think
an
interactive
map
could
also
help
to
guide
some
of
these
decisions.
S
There
was
a
called
my
landlord
doesn't
build
in
our
cycle.
My
building
doesn't
recycle.
Thank
you
where
it
was
essentially
an
app
that
allowed
Retta
our
tenants
to
report
if
their
landlord
did
not
recycle
and
I
think.
Similarly,
we
can
kind
of
put
put
building.
You
know
landlords
to
work
a
little
bit
where
they
can
report
on
the
amount
of
you
know
available
and
especially
affordable
units
in
any
given
time.
I
think
this
interactive
map
could
also
help
us.
S
You
know,
keep
track
of
other
criteria
that
we
have
in
trying
to
create
and
pinpoint
opportunity
areas.
One
thing
on
the
map
could
could
just
be
simply
where
are
some
of
these
accessory
dwelling
units,
but
just
something
that
helped
guide
us
on
a
kind
of
you
know
updated.
You
know,
as
it's
happening
I
think
will
really
help,
and
the
last
thing
we're
the.
S
I
really
want
us
to
look
at
who,
where
who's
representing
us
on
the
committee's
that
are
going
to
be
working
on
around
these
conversations.
We've
done
a
little
bit
of
digging
on
this
and
it
seems
like
it's
very
it's
it's
it's
a
lot
of
homeowners
that
are
sitting
on
these
committees
and
commissions
and
I
think
we
need
to
challenge
ourselves
to
try
to
get
some
more
renters,
I.
Think
in
fact,
because
the
issue
is
rent
heavy,
that
it
should
be
more
renters
that
are
representing
us
in
these
conversations.
T
I'm
Sara,
Vander,
Wiccan
and
I've
been
working
with
joining
forces
to
do
some
research
and,
what's
being
done
around
the
country.
There's
the
white
paper
is
just
really
excellent,
there's
so
much
packed
in
there.
It's
really
hard
to
pierce
out
I
mean
you
read
these
census
and
it's
anyway,
it's
if
there's
a
lot
in
there,
but
I
just
want
to
stress
that
there
are
many
many
many
ways.
T
People
have
been
doing
this
there's
over
500
jurisdictions
that
have
inclusionary
or
affordable
housing
policies
and
about
a
third
of
these
require
housing
under
an
inclusionary
artistry
main
affordable
for
99
years
or
in
perpetuity.
So
that's
that's
being
done
and
it's
not
all
of
it
is
in
a
Land
Trust.
Some
of
them
use
TIF
revenues.
Some
have
different
requirements
for
the
percentage
of
affordable
units
that
are
required,
or
the
target
population
depending
on
different
parts
of
the
city.
T
You
don't
have
to
have
a
one-size-fits-all
some
require
developers
of
commercial
real
estate
to
kick
in
to
the
affordable
housing.
You
know
it
doesn't
just
have
to
be
related
to
housing
development,
some
building,
a
provision
to
allow
the
in
lieu
fee
to
change
annually,
and
you
don't
have
to
change
the
whole
ordinance
you
that
you
have
a
built
in
thing
either
annually
or
in
response
to
the
economy.
There's
there's
many
many
things,
and
so
we
just
want
to
encourage
you
to
think
broadly
I
know
this
needs.
This
is
urgent.
T
It's
also
urgent,
that
you
have
this
Fitness
community
and
that
you
don't
leave
out
some
kind
of
source.
That
is,
you
know,
really
would
be
helpful,
also
I
repeat
what
but
they're
former
the
predecessor
speakers
that
that
I
really
hope
you
have
people
from
the
community
that
represent
a
range
of
housing,
need
and
experience
as
well
as
developers
and
people
who
are,
you
know
really
knowledgeable
about
the
money
aspects
and
so
on.
Thank.
U
Hello,
my
name
is
Cherise
Robertson
and
I'm,
a
member
of
reclaim
understand
and
I
joined
the
effort
for
affordable
housing,
because
I
ended
up
in
the
situation
where
I
became
disabled
over
the
last
five
years
and
it
changed
the
dynamics
of
my
income.
So,
instead
of
being
a
working
woman,
now
I'm
on
income,
that
is
structured,
and
so
that's
the
problem
so
I've
reclaimed.
You
know
we
support
the
guidelines
for
affordable
housing
that
are
being
presented
tonight,
we're
joining
forces
for
how
affordable
housing.
U
We
believe
these
guidelines
will
help
ensure
affordable
housing
is
implemented
in
the
city
of
Evanston
in
a
fair
and
equitable
manner.
Reclaim
Evanston
also
believes
that
a
number
of
specific
actions
should
be
taken
by
the
City
Council
in
order
to
make
affordable
housing
a
reality
instead
of
unfulfilled
promises
that
it
currently
is.
We've
seen
this
with
the
amnion
development
or
Sherman
Avenue.
This
type
of
project
does
not
live
up
to
the
guidelines
and
actually
causes
more
harm
than
good
for
fair
housing
and
evanston.
Reclaim
also
believe
specific
actions
should
be
taken.
U
Immediate
action
plan
for
affordable
housing
that
the
city
aims
for
inclusionary
zoning
ordinances
for
ultimate
so
to
eliminate
the
opt-out
provision
and
that
all
new
construction
must
have
20
percent,
affordable
yuning.
We
also
believe
that
the
city
should
implement
housing
vouchers,
alderman
Rainey,
just
what
you
say
it
is
is
everything
that
that
we're
looking
at
the
city
so
increased
funding
for
general
assistance
for
rent
subsidy
programs,
that
the
city
implement
an
interest-free
title
transfer
loans
up
to
$50,000
for
homeowners
to
rehab
that
structures
that
are
dilapidated,
yeah
I
couldn't
get
it
out.
V
Right,
hey
I've,
been
in
school
for
about
16
years
now
and
I.
Don't
think
that
there's
been
a
single
professor
who's
gotten
it
right
anyway.
So
that's
all
right!
So
I'm
not
a
familiar
face
to
most
people
here:
hi
I'm,
Erika,
Mallika
I'm,
the
student
body
president
at
Northwestern,
as
you
can
see,
I'm
a
student
and
I'm
here
to
represent
the
interests
of
the
students
in
this
we've
been
working.
V
The
student
government
has
been
working
with
Sue
and
joining
forces
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
housing,
affordability
because
you
guys
may
or
may
not
know,
but
professorship,
professor
and
president
Shapiro
has
put
down
an
ordinance
for
our
school
to
be
20%
Pell
eligible
students
by
2020
and
not
to
mention
that
the
evidence
and
food
insecurity
rates
stands
somewhere
between
12
and
18
percent.
But
at
the
same
time,
while
we
have
that
increased
number
of
students
who
have
financial
inaccessibility
to
our
school,
the
standing
rate
first
studio
apartments
around
the
Evanston
area.
V
They're
within
walking
distance
like
reasonable
walking
distance
to
on
campus
buildings,
is
1,500
1100
to
1500.
It
made
housing
for
me
personally,
almost
impossible
to
find
and
I
know
that
staying
on
campus
well,
that's
a
whole
different
story
that
I'm
also
fighting
as
a
battle
is
equally
as
inaccessible
to
students,
but
with
financial
aid
packages
that
apply
to
on-campus
housing
and
not
off-campus
housing.
V
It's
imperative
that
we
can
find
a
way
to
create
affordable
housing,
especially
for
students
and
I,
want
to
take
a
moment
to
be
very
considered
and
Thank
You
alderman
Rainey
I
had
a
pleasure.
The
pleasure
of
sitting
next
to
you
at
one
of
the
din
president
shapiro
hosted,
and
it's
evident
that
you
truly
do
care
about
students,
well-being,
because
it's
traumatizing
to
see
some
of
the
living
conditions
that
my
fellow
peers
have
subjected
themselves
to
on
the
name
of
affordability
in
housing,
packing
themselves
like
sardines
in
houses.
A
A
W
Susan
had
to
leave
so
I'm
gonna
speak
for
Susan
shirk
off.
My
name
is
Bonnie
Wilson
resident
of
the
Third
Ward
I'm,
going
to
speak
for
Susan.
My
name
is
Susan
chirkoff
and
she's.
The
chairman
of
the
age-friendly
Evanston
tax
force
and
convened
the
tax
force.
Housing
Committee,
which
I
was
on,
were
awesome.
A
member
of
the
joining
forces
for
affordable
housing
I
want
to
thank
you
for
having
this
affordable
housing
meeting
today.
It
was
very,
very
helpful
for
all
of
us
to
hear
what
you
had
to
say.
W
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor,
mayor,
Haggerty,
the
aldermen,
the
city
clerk
and
the
city
manager,
and
for
having
this
meeting
I
in
June
of
2016.
The
City
Council
unanimously
approved
the
age-friendly
Evanston
action
plan.
I
wanted
to
speak
tonight
because
since
that
time,
we've
had
new
a
new
mayor
and
new
aldermen.
The
plan
recommended
for
action
items
to
address
the
issue
of
increasingly
affordable
housing,
expand,
affordable
housing
options
through
the
Community
Land
Trust
shared
housing
and
subsidy
assistant
living,
which
could
be
supportive
living.
W
W
A
Q
Good
evening,
mayor
and
city
council
members,
I
have
a
lot
of
things.
I
want
to
cover
so
I'm
just
gonna.
Do
this
really
quickly?
Well,
you
may
not
think
so,
but
I
do
too.
Q
Okay,
so
when
I
say
I'm,
homeless,
I
am
homeless
and
a
resident
of
city
of
Evanston
I
want
you
to
realize
that
that's
my
current
situation.
That
is
not
who
I
am
I'm,
not
looking
for
a
handout
I'm.
Looking
for
a
lift
I
think
rapid
rehousing
is
very
important.
Human
beings
need
safety,
they
need
warmth,
they
need
food,
water,
bedrooms,
bathrooms
kitchens,
heat
blankets,
etc,
etc.
Q
If
you're
mentally
incapacitated
physically
incapacitated
a
former
vet
elderly
women
with
children-
and
do
you
think
someone
with
a
terminal
illness,
I
understand
that
and
I
am
for
all
those
things,
but
I
would
have
never
thought
that
as
a
person
who
tried
to
do
the
right
thing,
schoolwork
home
for
all
of
my
life,
that
I
would
not
be
helped
within
seven
to
ten
years.
That
is
an
awful
long
time
to
wait
and
when
people
need
help,
they
need
help.
Human
beings
are
human
beings.
Q
You
can't
say
one
is
more
important
than
others,
which
puts
me
into
the
other
things
that
I'm
a
firm
believer
of
you
shouldn't
be
able
to
get
housing
for
a
lifetime
unless
you
are
under
that
priority
category.
I.
Don't
think
these
in
this
economy
that
we
can
afford
to
do
this
and
I.
Don't
think
that
it's
fair,
that
you
could
raise
generations
upon
generations
upon
generations
and
CH
a
or
whatever
housing
unit
there
is
at
some
point.
Q
I
would
like
to
be
considered
a
priority
just
because
I'm,
a
human
being
not
because
of
my
status,
so
I
want
to
say
right
here
and
now
and
Rainey
I
would
like
to
be
first
on
your
list.
Someone
else
said
at
one
of
our
other
meetings
that
you
know:
what's
the
problem
with
getting
businesses
rented
out
are
their
startup
businesses
that
would
like
to
get
assistance.
Q
Q
X
Don't
pay
attention
to
the
first
statement.
You're,
not
paying
attention
to
the
very
important
resources
stands
as
the
elephant
in
the
room.
The
smaller
landlord
landlords
who
are
not
big
developers,
are
discriminated
against.
Big
developers
receive
gifts,
while
smaller
landlords
received
a
pat
on
the
back
and
offered
a
loan.
Smaller
landlords
are
expected
to
fill
a
gap
which
they
cannot
afford
and
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
an
example
of
HACC,
sometimes
they'll
offer
below
market
well
below
market
rate
rent
and
the
rent
freezes
for
the
entire
stay
of
the
tenant.
X
So
if
the
tenant
stays
for
ten
years,
there's
no
increase
in
the
rent.
Also
HACC
will
not
hesitate
to
deduct
rent
without
notification
or
discussion.
I
also
wanted
to
say
inspections
of
the
properties
are
biased
and
I.
Believe
racist.
You
have
more
inspections
in
the
fifth
Ward,
probably
than
in
the
other.
Ward
enforcement
does
happen
with
the
inspections
we
lost
a
family.
Actually,
we
had
to
move
a
family
because
of
enforcement,
so
that
is
done.
X
Also
low
agencies
must
have
low-income
tenants.
They
must
be
held
to
a
higher
standard
and
held
accountable
for
their
actions.
It
is
not
the
landlord
who
is
at
fault
by
default.
Assumptions
are
made
that
landlords
are
bad
and
tenants
are
good.
Low-Income
families
will
often
have
a
larger
size,
often
a
single
mother,
with
maybe
two
or
three
or
more
children,
sometimes
a
couple
with
more
and
therefore
studio.
Apartments,
ridiculous
and
one-bedroom
units
should
not
be
the
majority.
Y
Y
Okay,
these
are
the
people
that
need
to
be
talking
about,
affordable
housing.
If
you
don't
have
landlords,
you
don't
have
housing,
you
need
to
pay
attention
to
the
landlords
that
are
here
right
now,
we're
the
one
providing
the
housing,
and
so,
as
your
former
speaker
said,
from
the
HACC
you're
losing
housing
because
we're
not
taking
them.
We
used
to
have
up
to
15
section
8
tenants.
Now
we
have
three
I,
don't
care
if
they
go
or
not.
I,
don't
like
working
with
the
house
and
authority
anymore,
and
just
what
my
sister
said
they
raise.
Y
They
freeze
the
rent
as
it's
frozen,
so
my
taxes
go
like
this
and
I'm
have
a
person
in
there
for
a
two-bedroom
for
less
than
$1,000
and
I
pay
all
the
utilities
except
electricity.
So
also
I
was
reading
on
page
21.
It
says
that
you
want
to
propose
to
help
the
small
landlords
by
making
a
landlord
mitigation
fund
to
help
the
landlords
if
the
tenants
damage
the
property
or
gets
evicted.
If
a
landlord
hears
that
someone
is
potentially
going
to
be
evicted
or
damage
the
property,
that's
not
an
end!
Y
Y
If
you
want
to
work
with
the
program,
you
need
to
help
the
program
along
with
the
clients
such
as
rent,
is
due
on
the
first,
not
when
you
get
ready,
paying
your
rent
and
not
paying
for
a
birthday
party
for
your
child
or
paying
a
high
cable
bill
or
taking
a
vacation
which
has
all
happened
to
me
and
why
I
couldn't
get
my
rent
on
the
first
job:
training,
schooling,
parenting
classes.
You
need
to
do
these
things
as
far
as
and
altering
Rainey's
program.
Yes,
you
need
to
subsidize.
Y
Z
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Jill
Graham
I'm
from
the
seventh
Ward
long
time,
Evanston
resident
and
my
house
in
the
seventh
Ward
is
going
to
be
part
of
the
Community
Land
Trust
here
at
Evanston
when
I
move
into
senior
housing
because
I
think
housing,
affordable
housing
needs
to
be
scattered
sight
throughout
the
city
and
we
need
one
in
the
seventh
Ward
I
already
had
my
neighbors
over
for
a
coffee
to
inform
them
all
about
it
and
they're
all
supportive
and
so
I'm
proud
about
that.
Z
I
wanted
to
remind
the
council
that
about
almost
a
decade
ago
now,
the
climate
action
plan
was
adopted
by
the
city,
and
there
was
a
provision
in
there
that
that
said,
something
like
the
following:
the
it's
a
policy
of
the
city
of
Evanston,
that,
insofar
as
possible
the
housing
stock
that
alderman
Wilson
talked
about
the
the
housing
stock
for
the
whole
city.
We
should
we
should
try
to
have
the
housing
stock
for
the
city
insofar
as
possible,
be
structured
so
that
all
those
people
who
have
jobs
in
the
city,
whatever
their
incomes,
might
be.
Z
The
folks
who
push
brooms
at
the
hospital
who
sell
you
know
retail
jobs
downtown
who
teach
in
our
schools
who
are
on
the
the
police
force
or
fight
the
fires,
whatever
their
jobs,
honor
who
teach
at
the
university
whatever
their
jobs
are.
Should
they
want
to
buy
a
home
or
rent
a
home
in
the
city
of
Evanston
and
have
their
kids
go
to
our
wonderful
schools?
Z
Who've
retired
here
as
well
and
and
others
who've
lived
here
a
long
time
who
aren't
earning
any
money
at
all.
But
looking
at
our
population
overall
I'm,
a
retired
business
school
professor,
so
I
like
targets
like
setting
strategic
goals
and
I
just
would
offer
that
idea.
As
a
way
to
think
about
this
in
a
broad
strategic
way,
thank.
AA
Good
evening
and
I
echo
everything
that
mrs.
Graham
said,
mrs.
Graham
and
I
served
on
the
citizens,
lighthouse,
Community,
Land,
Trust
and
she
had
talked
about
putting
her
house
in
the
Land
Trust
way
back
in
2007
and
I
was
going
to
say
something
else,
but
when
she
got
up
and
said
that
that
made
me
think
of
something
that
we
had
done,
we
looked
at
what
was
the
property
tax?
AA
What
would
the
city
lose
in
property
tax
when
it
came
to
having
a
house
that
is
in
a
Land
Trust
in
European,
a
port
only
on
the
improvement?
I,
don't
have
those
figures,
but
I
can
get
them
from
Fred
and
it
was
a
smart
about
a
hundred
and
thirty-some
dollars
different
and
what
would
be
blouse
the
city
from
having
that
house
in
the
Community
Land
Trust.
AA
That
is
not
a
large
amount
and
stuff,
and
if
we
start
looking
at
our
budget,
which
we
are
doing
now
and
saying,
what
are
the
things
that
we
need
to
be
doing
and
what
are
the
things
that
we
need
to
be
cutting
in
that
spending
out?
We
probably
could
save
that
hundred
and
thirty
dollars
in
the
that
would
be
fruitful.
AA
She
have
taken
the
step
which
the
city
need
to
do
in
placing
affordable
housing
throughout
the
city.
That
is
one
of
the
mandate
of
the
fair
housing
ordinance.
The
Fair
Housing
law
act
at
the
pro
government
length
level.
That's
why
you
got
and
was
able
to
receive
your
home
phones,
because
your
community
and
your
CDBG
phone
and
your
McKinley
funds,
because
the
people
doing
they
took
it.
They
say
we
will
do
our
best
and
we
will
do
everything
to
spread
these
affordable
housing
throughout
the
community.
AA
You
need
to
take
a
look
and
see
where
have
Evanston
put
the
money
to
spread
these
houses.
We
try
to
put
another
Community
Land
Trust
home
up
there.
We
didn't.
We
had
a
man
from
the
Cook
County
Housing
Authority
kind,
and
he
showed
you
where
they
have
spreaded
housing
throughout
the
city
of
Evanston.
Here
in
the
North
Shore
in
how
they
have
done
housing
for
affordable
people
on
the
North
Shore.
Can
you
fit
10.
AA
Are
not
stepping
up,
we
need
to
step
up.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
you
to
do
this,
and
one
of
the
things
you
should
look
at
is
given
the
landlord's.
Here
is
the
property
tax.
There
are
different
laws
around
the
property
tax.
If
they
have
a
certain
amount
of
units,
they
can
get
a
portable
tax
reduction
for
their
rating
at
a
lower
level.
We
should
look
at
that
also.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank.
A
P
I'm
Priscilla
Giles
from
fifth
Ward,
and
forgive
me
if
I
sound
negative,
but
this
is
what's
happening
here:
I'm,
not
speaking
to
statistics,
but
people,
people
like
those
who
knock
on
my
door,
because
I
live
in
a
house
asking
for
jobs
for
money,
for
food,
for
money,
but
oh
and
and
what
happened?
That's
this
I
didn't
intend
to
say,
but
it
did
happen.
Last
Monday
all
day
long
I
had
two
homeless
people
come
to
my
house
and
stayed
on
till
10
o'clock
at
night.
P
This
is
a
disgrace
in
Evanston
the
people
who
serve
here
on
this
who
make
these
decisions.
It
should
not
happen.
We
need
affordable
housing
for
everyone,
not
just
the
newly-arrived
making
over
the
median
income,
but
also
the
poor,
those
on
Social
Security
disability,
those
working
in
service
industries,
those
longtime
residents
that
laid
the
foundation
for
what
is
now
the
new
Evanston.
We
need
housing
to
fit
the
neighborhood
and
the
people
who
live
there.
P
We
need
we
seem
to
now
be
selling
our
city
to
developers
and
the
rich
instead
of
providing
jobs
in
order
to
maintain
a
city
that
is
diverse,
economically,
socially
and
racially,
we
seem
to
be
producing
a
new
Trail
of
Tears,
like
when
the
American
Indians
were
removed
from
their
homes
for
monogamous
community,
as
Evanston
is
doing
now.
Thank
you
for
those
of
you
who
understand
the
plight
of
the
poor.
AB
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
maybe
Sarah
can
adjust
these
questions,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
say
was
that
I
was
wondering
when
is
Evanston
gonna
start
focusing
on
housing.
People
in
Evanston
and
I
always
see
things
about
regionally,
but
there
seems
to
be
a
housing
epidemic
in
Evanston,
so
I
think
we,
although
I,
feel
everyone
needs
housing.
We
have
a
problem
here
that
needs
to
be
addressed
first.
AB
My
next
question
was
community
partners,
housing
units-
where
are
those
housing
units
located
in
which
Ward's,
which
census
tract
and
what
is
being
done
to
put
these
homes
in
non-minority
areas
throughout
the
city
because
I
see
them?
There's
a
few
in
my
ward
there's
a
lot
in
the
fifth
Ward.
Where
did
what
are
you
doing
proactively
to
scatter
throughout
the
city,
the
cousing
County
Housing
Authority
homes?
How
many
are
there
throughout
the
city?
Where
are
they
located,
which
wards
which
census
tracts?
What
has
the
city
done
to
weather?
AB
How
many
veterans
has
has
the
city
helped
with
the
rapid
housing
program?
What's
the
status
of
that
I'd
like
to
know
and
the
homes
that
was
constructed
in
2007
under
the
Neighborhood
Stabilization
program,
which
the
city
received
eighteen
point,
five
eighteen
point:
five
million
dollars
where
those
houses
located:
are
they
scattered
throughout
the
city
as
well?
A
AC
Greetings.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
have
to
confess
before
I
came
tonight.
I
came
for
something
that
might
seem
a
little
pedantic
given
what
you
have
all
outlined
about
these
housing
issues
and
I'm,
proud
to
be
an
Evanston
resident.
Having
listened
to
everyone
talk
tonight
and
I
think
we
are
well
represented
by
you
folks
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
and
I
appreciate
your
time.
I
am
a
former
northwestern
student
I
graduated
in
83.
My
wife
has
her
PhD
from
there
as
well.
We
are
a
longtime
evidence,
Evanston
residents
and
fans.
AC
We
are
First
Ward
residents,
I
am
NOT.
Currently
a
fan
repealing
the
three
unrelated
and
I'm
very
conflicted
by
it,
but
in
my
particular
instance,
and
I
represent
a
large
group
of
families
and
in
that
area,
as
well
as
some
elderly
folks
have
been
pushed
out
of
the
areas
by
predatory
developers
that
have
come
in
and
taken
over
these
homes
and
to
your
point
very
eloquently
have
stuffed
in
as
many
people
as
they
can
and
if
it
weren't
for
that
ordinance
and
Judy
Fisk,
we
would
be
living
next
tour
to
the
entire
northwestern
baseball
team.
AC
A
parent
came
in
and
bought
an
eight
hundred
thousand
dollar
house
for
their
child.
I,
don't
judge
it.
People
come
from
different
places.
We
all
work
hard.
We
live
in
a
capitalist
society,
I
get
it.
I,
am
a
musician
I'm,
a
composer
by
trade.
That's
what
I
do
for
a
living.
I
work
very
hard.
My
wife
is
a
psychologist
who
focuses
on
disparities
and
cancer
prevention
for
the
underserved,
so
we
love
living
here.
We
are
about
affordable
housing,
we're
about
taking
care
of
our
own.
AC
So
I
would
hope
that
we
could
find
a
solution
that
doesn't
necessarily
penalize
those
of
us
too,
that
are
on
the
other
side
of
that
equation
and
I
implore
you
to
please
consider
us
as
well,
in
what
you're
trying
to
put
forth
and
have
it
be
fair
for
all
of
us
and
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
there's
a
solution,
but
we
need
some
mechanism
that
makes
it
equitable.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
I
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
You,
Craig.
AD
So
I
would
first
just
like
to
second
Charice
as
suggestions
and
also
joining
forces
guidelines,
but
I
just
when
I'm
gonna
be
really
quick.
I
just
want
to
make
one
point,
and
that
is
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
that
is
already
in
effect,
is
not
being
followed.
If
we,
if
you
improve
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
will
that
be
followed?
AD
Will
that
being
here
too,
because
there's
developments
that
are
being
you
know,
proposed
for
transit,
oriented
areas,
developments
and
the
ami,
the
rent,
the
ami
is
supposed
to
be
50
to
60%
and
there's
a
lot
of
support
on
the
council
for
one
that
the
the
plan
is
not
at
fifty
to
sixty
is
what
they're
proposing
it's
at
sixty
to
eighty
and
that
does
not
even
meet
the
definition
of
affordable
housing,
as
the
ordinance
already
has
it.
So
if
we
come
up
with
something
better
well,
the
council
follow
that
follow
that
ordinance.
AD
So
let's
look
at
what
was
just
what
was
brought
up
in
the
past
and
it
has
that
been
followed.
So
you
know
we
can.
We
can
table
them
and
try
to
come
up
with
something
better,
but
you
know
is
a
citizen.
It's
rather
disturbing
to
have
plans
and
ordinances
and
have
council
members
not
blink
when
they're,
not,
you
know
seriously
contemplate
not
following
them.
Thanks.
AE
Good
evening,
thank
you
very
much
for
all
of
your
time
on
this
I
really
appreciate
everyone's
sincere
desire
to
tackle
this
very
complicated
problem.
I
just
wanted
to
one
real
quick,
tell
you
that
Highland
Park's
inclusionary
does
have
home
ownership
in
perpetuity,
so
that
is
a
local
one
that
does
have
it
in
perpetuity
and
I
wanted
to
quickly
answer
the
previous
woman's
question
as
to
where
our
housing
is.
The
majority
of
our
homes
are
in
certain
census,
tracts
that
were
dictated
by
the
grant.
AE
It
was
actually
not
necessarily
an
affordable
housing
grant,
but
it
was
the
mortgage
foreclosure
grant
and
to
help
stabilize
the
neighborhoods
in
certain
areas
that
were
hardest
hit
by
the
foreclosure
crisis
that
came
after
the
NSP
program,
but
I
wanted
to
talk
just
under
two
minutes
a
little
bit
about
on
one
of
the
last
houses
that
we
did
here
for
homeownership,
which
we
feel
is
really
critical
to
every
community
to
be
able
to
have
affordable,
homeownership
units,
obviously
affordable
housing.
There's.
AE
No
one
thing
that
solves
that
problem
and
in
community
partners
for
affordable
housing
does
not
solve
all
of
the
Hopf
of
the
affordable
housing
program.
Problems-
the
last
house
that
we
did
it
was
appraised
at
$275,000.
This
is
a
single-family
home
two
bedrooms.
One
bath
was
under
a
thousand
square
feet.
We
sold
that
house.
This
was
after
we
rehabbed
that
it
was
uninhabitable
when
we
purchased
step,
we
rehabbed
it
it
valued
that
275
and
we
sold
it
for
$165,000.
AE
$110,000
is
a
substantial
amount
of
subsidy.
If
this
was
five
ten
fifteen
thousand,
it
wouldn't
be
as
big
of
issue,
but
but
we
don't
want
to
enrich
one
family
that
they
can
turn
around
and
sell
it
market
rate
and
we
lose
that
affordable
housing,
it's
so
hard
to
come
by
and
it's
so
expensive
to
do
so.
AE
That
is
why
we
love
I
love
this
about
our
program
in
areas
like
Evanston
and
Highland,
Park
and
lake
force,
because
it
helps
family
after
family,
one
subsidy
and
yes,
it's
a
lot,
but
it
continues
on
and
on,
and
we
have
been
SEPA
has
been
around
for
14
years
and
we
have
had
our
resales
now
we're
seeing
it
that
people
are
selling
their
homes
they're
downsizing.
If
they've
raised
their
families,
some
people
are
getting
married,
their
circumstances
have
changed
and
we
are
helping
family
after
family.
AE
So
I
just
wanted
to
explain
that
our
buyers,
somebody
making
40
50
60
70
thousand
dollars
a
year,
cannot
afford
two
hundred
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
to
purchase
that
house.
If
it
was
not
rehabbed,
it
would
be
between
150
and
160,
but
need
a
lot
of
work
that
they
also
would
not
be
able
to
afford.
Thank
you
very.
AF
I
appreciate
a
lot
of
the
programs
I
our
ideas
tonight
from
using
underdeveloped
land,
the
coach-house
idea,
I
thought
was
fantastic,
I.
Imagine,
there's
hundreds
I
thought,
maybe
even
into
a
thousand
that
of
Coach
houses.
It
seems
like
that
would
be
a
free,
a
win-win
solution,
also
supporting
landlords
like
the
paid
ins
with
naturally
occurring,
affordable
housing
that
appropriate
sizes
and
also
while
we
are
looking
to
development
as
we
should
to
provide
on-site
inclusionary
housing.
AF
He
sees
the
pricing
out
of
Latinos
from
the
neighborhood.
He
has
personally
blocked
more
of
these
large-scale
luxury
developments
from
coming,
and
it's
not
that
he's.
There's
not
currently
housing
on
that
site.
Also
further.
The
on-site
development
units
that
Albion
residential
is
offering
are
inadequate,
as
Meg
Welch
mentioned.
Most
of
these,
as
they
were
supposed
to
be
in
the
50
to
60
range,
are
now
in
the
60
to
80
percent
ami
range,
and
so
the
incomes
needed
to
access
these.
AF
Our
first
studio,
forty
four
thousand
dollars
for
one
person,
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
one
bedroom,
fifty
thousand
six
hundred
for
a
two-bedroom
and
rents
as
high
as
fourteen
hundred
dollars
for
a
two-bedroom
that
doesn't
seem
like
much
of
a
of
a
help
for
affordable
housing
and
also
in
Washington
secured.
Why
do
they
say
they
can't
pay
because
their
units
cost
three
hundred
thirty
thousand
dollars
per
unit
some
of
many
of
these
studio,
and
why
is
that?
AF
It's
due
to
best-in-class
amenities
and
expensive
materials
needed
for
construction,
high-rise
and
I
wonder,
is
their
desire
for
luxury
amenities
and
height,
a
good
reason
for
us
to
let
them
get
around
our
inclusionary
ordinances.
I,
don't
think
so,
and
keep
in
mind.
This
is
going
to
set
a
precedent
for
future
development.
Also,
thank.
E
Good
evening,
everyone
you
know,
I
just
want
to
quickly
comment
on
all
during
Wilson's
proposal.
I
want
to
show
my
support
for
it.
It's
something
that,
as
City
Clerk
I've
had
a
number
of
calls
from
residents
who
needed
a
system
with
that
and
as
a
citizen
I
have
a
you
know.
Four
bedroom
apartment
I
have
two
roommates.
Now
one
is
Latino
or
the
other
one
is
Asian,
and
so
you
kind
of
can
look
at
us
if
we
were
to
get
a
fourth
roommate
and
just
tell
that
we're
violating
that
ordinance
and
I.
E
Don't
think
that
and
if
you
know
if
in
our
neighbors
downstairs
would
say
that
we're
very
respectful,
quiet
people,
if
we
were
to
bring
this
fourth
person
in
we'd,
all
be
paying
$450
a
month
for
rent
and
that's
you
know,
you
know,
my
buddies
are
folks
who
are
working,
regular
jobs
and
aren't
making
very
much
and
be
very
good
for
all
of
us.
Also
I
very
quickly
want
to
comment
on.
You
know
come
when
I
first
came
in
to
office.
E
So
there's
you
don't
get
a
bonus
for
putting
you
know.
You
know
some
kind
of
amenity
in
the
building
because,
for
the
most
part,
with
Chicago
is
found
that
developers
want
to
put
those
amenities
in
their
building
in
the
first
place
because
it
makes
their
building
more
attractive.
So
why
would
we
give
them
a
bonus
in
height
for
and
we'll
just
make
folks
pay
for
it
who
wanted
in
areas
that
are
oversaturated
are
highly
saturated
with
affordable
housing.
E
They
have
an
opt-out
rate
that
is
lower
than
other
areas,
so,
for
example,
in
the
twenty
seventh
Ward
of
Chicago,
the
opt-out
rate,
there
is
$50,000,
as
opposed
to
their
higher
rate
in
areas
that
are
high
demand
in
their
downtown
and
other
high
demand
areas.
The
opt-out
fee
is
actually
a
lot
closer
to
what
it
costs
to
build
a
new
unit
of
affordable
housing.
So
it's
two
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
as
opposed
to
a
hundred
and
I
think
we
have
here
$100,000
for
opt
out
fee.
E
A
AG
Evening,
mayor
Haggerty
and
city
manager,
Bobby
wits
and
clerk
I
will
first
want
to
commend
the
alderman,
Rainey
and
alderman
Simmons
for
at
least
having
a
plan.
That's
the
first
thing.
God
bless.
You
I
want
to
make
some
amendments
to
that
plan,
though,
and
I
want
you
to
consider
it
and
having
been
marginalized
for
20
years
in
front
of
this
council.
I
know
you're,
not
gonna,
listen
to
what
I'm
saying,
but
I
want
it
for
the
record.
Okay,
one
for
the
Land
Trust.
You
should
include
18
units
two
for
each
ward.
AG
F
A
A
It's
not
based
on
based
on
public
comment
or
our
comments
earlier
and
and
before
I
before
I.
Do
that
city
manager
has
some
text
from
Alderman
Ravel
who,
as
we
said,
William
waived
her
she's
she's
watching
us
at
home.
I
couldn't
be
here
and
we'll
do
that
and
then
we're
gonna
go
to
alderman
Rainey
and
then
alderman
Wilson.
Yes,.
D
Have
a
text
from
alderman
Ravel
or
she
says
I'd
like
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
an
excellent
and
productive
discussion
this
evening.
A
couple
of
suggestions
number
one.
As
we
talk
about
reaching
out
and
having
conversations
with
the
broader
community
about
some
of
the
policy
changes
we
are
considering
I'd
like
to
mention
that
we
have
a
housing
and
homelessness
Commission.
This
group
would
be
very
pleased
to
have
a
role
in
fostering
some
of
this
community
conversation.
D
Second,
as
a
way
to
acknowledge
that
affordable
housing
is
truly
a
priority
for
the
council,
I
suggest
that
we
schedule
a
regular
time
to
assess
how
we
are
doing
in
achieving
our
objectives
for
affordable
housing
and
make
any
necessary
course
corrections.
Perhaps
we
could
set
aside
time
every
quarter
at
a
third
Monday
City
Council
meeting,
for
example,
to
review
what
has
been
accomplished
to
give
date
accomplished
to
date
and
give
any
new
direction
that
is
needed.
E
D
I
I
would
like
to
speak
directly
to
the
Paden
family
and
to
Karla
Sutton.
Their
program.
I
propose
has
no
restrictions
such
as
HUD
or
federal
restrictions
or
County
restrictions
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
it
has
no
rent
restrictions,
as
does
the
county,
and
so
the
you
know
it.
It
covers
my
market
rent.
So
if
your
rent
for
two
bedroom
apartment
is
$1600,
that's
the
rent,
we
consider
its
market
rent
program
and
30.
I
In
fact,
the
percentage
rent
of
your
income
that
I'm
proposing
is
25
percent,
because
the
30
percent
rent
income
is
considers
utilities
and
so
we're
not
providing
utilities.
So
I'm
saying
25
percent,
so
people
will
have
disposable
income
to
pay
their
utilities.
So
I
think
this
program
is
going
to
especially
benefit
smaller
private
landlords.
If
you
can
attract
the
tenant
and
if
you're
willing
to
accept
a
3-year
lease,
then
you've
hit
the
jackpot,
because
I'm
sure
the
tenants
are
going
to
be
fabulous
and
especially
since
you're
a
fabulous
landlord.
K
A
I
I'd
like
to
see
this
subcommittee
involve
aldermen
who
who
commit
to
having
some
background
in
housing,
and
you
know-
administering
housing,
finance,
legal
and
also
I'd
like
to
see
a
representative
from
the
development
community
in
the
real
estate
community,
and
perhaps
even
the
planning
community
I,
don't
want
to
see
a
some
of
our
more
recent
committees.
Subcommittees.
We've
appointed
have
10
15
20
people
I.
We
need
to
keep
it,
maybe
two
six
seven
people
so
that
we
can
work.
How.
K
That's
good,
I
think
a
group
of
aldermen
and
perhaps
three
you
know,
representatives
from
the
various
aspects
of
the
development
community
and
how
you
know
did
and
because
this
is
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
as
it
has
applies
to
development.
So
it's
not
as
specific
to
you
know:
landlords
in
the
community.
So
that's
gonna
be
a
different
point
we'll
get
to
okay.
So.
A
D
All
three
members
of
the
Council
of
the
councils
rules,
a
special
committee
that
is
made
up
of
aldermen
and
residents,
can
be
appointed
by
the
council,
the
rules
committee
or
the
mayor.
So
if
the
council
would
like
the
mayor
to
make
that
appointment,
that
I
think
that
could
be
part
of
the
motion
and
he
could
come
back
then
with
recommended
based
on
the
we
have
any
volunteers.
O
Z
A
A
D
A
I
think
that
would
be
good
I
think
it
would
also,
unless
people
have
a
different
vision,
I'd
like
to
have
an
appointee
representative,
I
think
from
housing
and
homelessness.
Since
we
have
a
board
and
a
commission
on
that-
and
it's
not
unusual
that
we
might
have
somebody
from
one
of
our
boards
or
commissions
on
a
special.
F
I
A
I
A
K
K
Okay,
I'm
not
on
that,
but
that's
okay.
She
just
happens.
AG
M
O
F
Z
F
I
A
M
D
J
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
maintaining
supportive
services
for
Evanston
residents
on
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21
I,
don't
know
where
this
girl's,
forgive
me,
maybe
Human,
Services
I've,
been
looking
at
the
general
assistance
and
I
would
like
us
to
revisit
what
we
can
I
know.
Some
of
it
is
his
mandated.
But
as
it
stands
now,
you
essentially
can't
be
eligible
for
any
other
program
to
get
general
assistance,
which
is
one
thing,
but
then
what
you
get
is
such
a
small
amount.
J
J
$600
is
not
keeping
me
in
my
apartment
and
then
I
can't
work
with
the
cash
payment,
and
so
I
would
like
us
to
look
at
those
benefits
to
see
if
that's
a
way
for
us
to
help
for
a
short
period
of
time,
at
least
keep
people
in
their
property
because
it
particularly
if
we
don't
go
with
this
extension
of
the
three
or
not.
You
know
$600
as
a
rental
assistance
is
not
keeping
you
in
your
place,
even
if
you're
just
looking
for
a
job
for
a
month.
O
O
C
Like
to
I,
like
you,
ottoman
forming
I,
don't
know
who
this
goes
to,
but
referral
report
on
steps
towards
a
home
ownership,
first-time
buyers
program.
As
we
look
at
the
list
of
abandoned
properties
and
identify
opportunities,
we
can
educate
the
residents
on
mortgage
products
which
would
help
them
qualify
for
the
improvements,
as
well
as
acquisition
of
the
properties.
So
there's
an
opportunity
there
for
affordable
housing,
pretty
immediately
I
know
that
there
are
seems
like
dozens
in
our
Ward
and
I
would
imagine
that
that
is
kind
of
happening
all
over
the
city.
A
K
D
We
can
come
back
in
January,
the
third
Monday's,
the
Martin
Luther
King
holiday,
so
we
always
have
difficulties
with
those
third
Monday's
is
sometime
a
flea
three
months.
Okay,
so
we
will
plan
to
come
back
a
night
and
I
think
would
be
useful.
We'll
come
up
with
a
work
plan
document
based
on
these
referrals
shortly
and
have
that
for
you
off
agenda
in
the
next
several
days,
and
so
we'll
keep
track
and
we'll
a
director
Leonard.
Will
this
plan
to
to
come
back
sometime
in
the
month
of
January?
D
M
D
F
D
Mr.
mayor
members
of
council,
just
so
I'm
clear
I
think
we
have
referrals
on
everything
except
the
very
first
one,
which
was
the
creation
of
the
subcommittee
dealing
with
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
Oh,
we'll
come
back
to
the
council
I
think
we
can
do
that,
perhaps
as
quickly
as
November
13th
of
not
the
13th,
the
the
20th
or
27th
to
get
that
appointed.
Otherwise,
all
these
referrals
are
there
we'll
meet
with
the
committee
chairs.
D
H
Know
I
think
these.
Since
these
are
all
pieces,
all
the
referrals
are
pieces
of
the
larger
discussion.
I
think
we
should
wait
for
those
to
come
to
committee
until
after
the
special
committee
has
had
a
chance
to
meet
and
make
a
list
of
what
they're
going
to
be
addressing.
Otherwise
we're
attacking
these
things.
Piecemeal
and
I.
Don't
think
that
really
benefits
anyone.
F
O
I
O
F
A
A
Okay,
yeah
all
right,
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
get
going.
Thank
you
everybody
for
coming
out
for
this
discussion
about
a
very
important
topic
in
affordable
housing.
Let's
continue
to
keep
this
as
socioeconomically
racially
and
ethnically
diverse
community.
It's
gonna
take
a
lot
of
hard
work,
but
thanks
is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
second.