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A
Go
ahead
and
and
get
this
special
meeting
underway.
I
spoke
with
clerk
read
this
morning
and
he
was
under
the
weather
and
so
the
city
in
which
is
just
too
bad,
since
he
just
had
a
birthday
just
a
couple
days
ago,
but
he's
he's
under
the
weather
and
so
city
manager.
Bob
coats
is
going
to
take
the
role.
B
A
So
we
have
quorum.
We
have
seven
of
the
aldermen
here.
I
know:
Alderman
Ravel
will
be
out
today,
as
alderman
I
will
check.
Okay
well,
I
will
check
on
alderman
Simmons,
okay
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
coming
out
on
a
Saturday
morning.
I
promise
you
I
promise
you.
This
meeting
is
not
going
to
end
at
midnight
all
right.
You
take
that
you
can
take
that
to
the
bank.
So
thank
you
for
coming
out.
A
This
is
a
special
meeting
and
an
important
meeting
today
to
talk
about
our
priorities
as
a
city
and
our
budget,
this
meeting
will
go
slightly
differently
because
of
state
statute.
Then
some
of
our
other
city
council
meetings,
someone
asked
city
manager,
Bob
Kuwait's,
if
you
could
just
take
us
through
so
everybody
in
the
audience
and
everybody
watching
at
home,
understands
how
it
will
be
proceeding
today.
Yes,
thank
you.
Mr.
mayor
members,.
B
Of
the
council
good
morning,
the
next
item
would
be
the
public
hearing
on
the
proposed
budget
and
mayor
Haggerty
would
call
that
to
order
receive
any
public
comment,
any
discussion
from
the
council
and
then
close
that
public
hearing.
So
mr.
mayor
I,
believe
your
plan
is
to
assume
that
anyone
who
has
signed
up
has
signed
up
for
the
public
hearing
on
the
budget
correct
and
if
individuals
wish
to
speak
to
the
levy
or
have
general
public
comment.
If
you
could,
let
us
know
when
you
come
to
the
podium
when
we'll
deal
with
that,
then
so.
B
The
first
hearing
is
on
the
budget.
The
second
hearing
under
Illinois
law
is
a
truth
and
taxation
hearing
for
the
property
tax
levy
for
the
city
of
Evanston,
so
the
mayor
will
call
that
to
order.
Take
any
public
comment,
any
comments
from
the
City
Council
and
then
close.
That
public
hearing
will
then
have
mayor's
public
announcement,
city
managers,
public
announcements
and
then
general
public
comment,
and
the
mayor
has
asked
that
today,
any
general
public
comment
be
on
issues
other
than
the
budget
of
the
tax
lobby.
B
So
if
anyone
is
here
to
talk
about
other
issues,
that
they'd
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
that
under
public
comment
and
then
we
would
go
through
the
special
orders
of
business
SP,
one
of
through
SP
five
are
the
various
ordinances
enacting
the
tax
levy
again
under
Illinois
law.
The
only
actions
this
morning
is
the
introduction
of
those
ordinances.
B
They
need
to
be
on
file
for
public
inspection
for
twenty
days,
and
so
at
this
point
that
will
start
that
process
and
then
it
would
be
the
expectation
that
the
City
Council
would
consider
these
ordinances
for
action
at
the
end
of
November.
So
the
purpose
of
SP
1
through
SP
5,
is
merely
the
introduction
of
those
ordinances
and
then
finally
SP
6,
the
budget
workshop.
The
staff
is
prepared
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
and
it's
our
hope
that
the
council
will
begin
deliberating
on
the
budget
this
morning.
A
Terrific
thank
you.
Mr.
city
manager,
okay,
so
item
2,
the
public
hearing
fiscal
year,
2018
proposed
budget
for
the
city
of
Evanston.
Pursuant
to
the
Illinois
compiled
statute.
Since
section
1
11-5
of
the
city
code,
the
Evanston
City
Council
is
conducting
a
public
hearing
today
to
consider
the
fiscal
year
2018
proposed
budget
document.
The
purpose
of
this
hearing
is
to
allow
for
public
input
on
the
proposed
budget
budget
document.
I
hereby
convened
the
hearing
for
the
fiscal
year.
2018
proposed
budget
presentation
open.
A
We
have
oh
excuse
me.
One
other
point.
So
today
is
a
meeting.
That's
dedicated
strictly
to
the
budget.
Staff
has
presented
an
overview
of
the
2018
proposed
budget
on
October,
16th
and
23rd
2017,
and
this
presentation,
along
with
the
proposed
budget,
is
available
at
the
city's
website.
If
you
could
just
go
to
city
of
Evanston
org
forward,
slash
government
forward,
slash
budget,
you
will
see
all
the
materials
ok
so
now
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
to
any
discussion
and
we'll
start
with
the
the
public
hearing.
We
have
folks
that
have
signed
up
here.
A
If
you
haven't
signed
up
and
want
to
speak
on
the
budget,
please
let
me
know:
we've
got
you
know
about
10
people.
It
looks
like
that
are
signed
up
I'm,
going
to
ask
everyone
to
try
to
keep
your
remarks
within
three
minutes.
Okay
and-
and
if
you
get
to
three
minutes,
I'll
just
give
you
a
little
nudge
like
that,
like
I,
normally
do
we're
looking
forward
to
to
everybody's
comments,
but
before
we
do
that
alderman
Rainey,
yeah.
D
D
A
D
E
Morning,
mr.
mayor
members
of
council
grant
for
our
corporation
council,
I
don't
specifically
recall
a
time
limit
being
set
for
comments
during
the
public
hearing
for
the
budget.
There's
nothing
in
the
statute
that
speaks
to
that.
So
I
think
this
issue
is
properly
reposed
with
the
chair
of
the
City
Council,
which
would
be
the
merits
as
it's
his
call.
Okay,
okay,.
A
Okay,
well,
I'd
certainly
don't
intend
to
restrict
you
know.
People
I
would
like
to
make
sure,
because
we
do
have
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
signed
up,
that
everybody
has
a
chance.
I
don't
want
anyone
instead
of
monopolizing
monopolizing
the
mic
and
speaking
we're
gonna
go
to
extensive
extensively,
especially
after
I
promise
you
all
that
I
would
have
you
out
before
midnight.
So
what
I
will
ask
is
that
you
know
you
try
to
keep
your
comments.
Succinct,
alderman
Rainey
has
been
on
this
council
for
a
long
long
time.
A
So
I
respect
her
opinion
on
this,
and
we
will
not
be
time
we
will
not.
I
will
not
time
you,
but
that
said,
if
you're
getting
past
five
minutes,
folks
I'm
probably
going
to
I
may
chime
in
and
just
ask
how
much
longer
just
so.
We
have
a
sense
up
here.
Okay,
all
right!
So
with
that
I'll
give
the
I'll
give
the
three.
F
Good
morning
I'm
a
Nevison
resident
vamos
41
years,
my
kids
went
to
the
high
school
I'm
a
privileged
person,
because
I'm
an
educator
and
my
husband
insufficient.
He
worked
with
working
poor
and
we
have
a
lot
of
I
Titan
in
the
CPS
schools.
I
have
a
lot
of
understanding
about
this.
I
am
now
working
with
giving
back
to
the
Evanston
community.
As
a
retired,
educator
and
I
have
been
trained
by
the
police
department
to
do
mentoring
in
the
restorative
justice
and
peace
circles.
F
I
am
extremely
disturbed
about
removing
the
police
department's
social
workers
from
working
in
peace,
cities,
peaceable
cities
and
restorative
justice
circles.
I
can
tell
you
now
that,
as
district
65
is
now
in
charge
of
peace
circles,
they
are
not
being
run
the
same
way.
The
education
is
not
the
same
as
an
educator.
I
can
tell
you
that
it's
not
the
same
you're,
not
hearing
this,
but
it's
the
truth.
You
have
people
like
Erica
Barton,
who
are
outstanding
people.
F
Now.
Here's
I'm,
just
gonna,
say
one
major
other
thing.
As
an
educator
I
taught
my
kids
how
to
stand
up
for
themselves
and
work.
The
system
we
have
tons
of
kids
that
do
not
know
how
to
speak
up
for
themselves.
They
don't
know
how
to
work
the
system.
They
don't
know
how
to
make
things
happen
for
themselves.
You
have
people
like
Erica
Barton
in
the
police
department
that
makes
kids
feel
safe
and
knows
how
to
train
other
people
like
me
to
work
in
the
system.
F
I
am
deeply
concerned
about
taking
these
few
people
in
social
services
and
moving
them
to
a
larger
position
where
they
will
get
lost.
We
cannot
afford
to
move
people
out
of
the
police
department.
Police
departments
are
scary
to
families
and
kids.
We
leave
them
there.
There's
a
conduit.
There's
a
community
and
I
beg
you
to
really
consider
this,
because
I
can
tell
you
that
my
husband
and
I
taught
our
kids
how
to
work
the
system.
A
lot
of
people,
don't
know
how
to
do
that.
Please
please
reconsider
this
move.
G
H
2728
Ries
in
Evanston
for
nearly
30
years.
First
I
recommend
that
you
do
keep
the
budget
discussion
going
on
November,
6
I,
don't
think
all
the
questions
have
been
addressed
yet.
Secondly,
the
in
the
budget
document
there
seems
to
be
some
potential
double
dipping
on
Howard
Street
Theater
approved
budget.
In
the
document
it
shows
a
theater
budget
for
2018
being
1
1
million
seven
hundred
thirty
thousand
dollars
as
an
expense
in
2018,
but
it
does
not
document
what's
already
been
spent
in
2016
and
2017.
H
H
I
want
to
talk
about
something
that
has
been
overlooked
and
I.
Think
it's
kind
of
buried
in
the
budget
and
I
really
turn
to
alderman
Fisk.
To
help
with
this
matter.
My
family
is
a
big
animal
advocate,
we've
taken
in
animals
from
Katrina
and
other
locations
and
I
know
all
the
men
Fisk
is
its
secured
to
her
heart
as
well.
I
would
save
the
$50,000
study
amount.
H
We
don't
need
a
study.
What
the
animal
shelter
needs
is
that
50,000,
plus
a
couple
of
million
more
that
you
have
budgeted
in
2019
I
think
currently
they
have
over
80
foster
home
locations
where
they
take,
they
don't
have
rooms,
so
they
actually
put
animals
out
into
foster
homes
until
they
do
have
room
in
the
shelter
the
city
promised
them
a
new
building.
Years
and
years
ago,
when
Kerr
was
evicted,.
H
The
existing
building
is
crumbling.
It's
too
too
too
small
they
received
calls
from
well
met
because
we'll
nut
does
not
have
a
facility.
They
receive
calls
from
Lincoln
wood,
all
the
time
apparently
to
take
in
animals,
so
they're
kind
of
a
regional.
They
become
something
of
a
regional
facility,
but
they
just
don't
have
the
room
we
learned.
Kerr
is
building
a
new
building
in
Skokie.
H
H
I
also
like
to
recommend-
and
I
heard
mentioned
this
from
somebody
and
the
council
about
combining
the
management
of
a
levy
Center
and
the
Chandler
Center
into
one
full-time
employment
position.
I
think
that's
something
that's
reasonable
if
one
person
can
manage
both
things.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
G
Good
morning
everybody
Daniel
Stein,
25:42
lawndale
and
beautiful
Evanston
Illinois
I
am
addressing
council
as
a
representative
of
the
city's
Rec
board
and
on
our
meeting
on
last
Thursday,
it
came
to
our
attention.
We
were
discussing
the
unintended
consequences
of
the
furloughs.
An
Rec
board
is
just
requesting
that
council
be
mindful.
We
understand
there
is
a
need
for
furlough,
so
this
isn't
a
conversation
about
furloughs,
but
when
there
are
furloughs
how
it
affects
the
park
and
Rec
programming
and
everything
from
senior
lunches
at
levy
center
to
a
preschool
and
after-school
care.
G
At
crown,
Jeff
Brown
is
one
of
our
board
members
and
he's
the
principal
of
King
Lab,
and
it
really
started
with
Jeff
saying
what's
going
to
happen
to
the
kids
after
school,
so
our
we're
just
requesting
that
the
council
be
mindful
of
how
it
affects
the
whole
city
and
that
it's
not
just
you,
know
sport
programming
when
you,
when
you
talk
about
closing
down
the
the
rec
facilities
and
really
just
just
planning
for
it
that
that's
just
the
one
point
we
wanted
to
during
this
process.
So
thanks
for
your
time,
thank
you.
Dan.
I
We've
got
a
long
ways
to
go,
the
senior
population
is
going
to
be
growing
and
we
need
to
have
a
full-time
manager
at
the
levy.
Center
I've
had
some
experience
with
the
idea
of
budget
cutting.
In
my
in
my
working
years,
I
was
manager
of
three
different
locations
for
a
short
time.
It
was
a
budget
cutting
decision.
I
I
It
just
doesn't
work
and
I
think
this
needs
to
be
reconsidered
and
we
need
to
have
a
full
time
manager.
I
played
basketball
at
the
levy
center.
We
have
a
very
robust
program
there
and
it
wouldn't
have
happened
if
it
hadn't
been
for
the
fact
that
it's
a
well-managed
facility
and
I
just
feel
that
that
needs
to
be
addressed
again.
J
My
name
is
gunner
Forrest
I've
been
a
member
of
the
levy.
Senior
Center,
since
1996
I
I
served
on
the
Senior
Center
development
subcommittee,
with
an
Rainey
for
three
years
from
99
to
2002.
I
want
to
compliment
her
right
now,
because
we
wouldn't
have
had
the
Senior
Center
if
it
wasn't
for
Ann
and
I
just
want
to
say
a
few
words
about
our
current
manager.
I
think
she's,
the
best
one
we've
had
since
at
the
Ames
retired
in
99.
J
A
K
I'm
Barbara
Bronson
and
I'm
under
Advisory
Board
of
the
levees
Senior
Center
and
I,
would
say
just
that.
Our
current
manager
I
think
they
call
her
recreational
manager
I've
been
there
nearly
six
years,
she's
done
more
than
her
less
than
a
year.
There
then
the
whole
time
I
was
there,
so
I
hope
we
can
keep
her.
Thank
you
great.
L
D
L
I
wasn't
really
prepared
to
speak
today,
but
I've
got
to
say
this
about
the
decision
to
take
the
social
service
program
out
of
the
police
department.
I
am
a
person
that
was
an
employee
and
nonprofit
for
over
20
years
and
in
the
90s
I
was
with
an
organization
called
strive
out
of
New
York
and
we
probably
were
in
22
different
cities,
doing
some
very
strict
job
readiness
training
we
didn't
play
and
I
worked
with
the
victims.
Witness
Department
and
those
social
workers
were
on
point.
L
They
were
about
the
business
and
I
thought
it
was
really
good.
The
fact
that
there
was
at
a
police
station
a
department
like
that
to
soften
the
wall
or
to
be
there
for
that
particular
moment,
when
only
a
social
worker
could
step
in
and
make
the
difference
and
so
I'm
saddened
that
this
is
has
to
happen.
Understand
you
have
to
make
the
cuts
I
had
to
retire
earlier
than
I
wanted
to.
L
So
you
know
I've
had
to
learn
how
to
live
on
much
less
money,
so
I
get
it
that
you
have
a
real
rough
I'm
balancing
this
budget,
social
service
and
health
is
not
the
same
thing.
I
was
part
of
a
company
that
merged
with
another
one,
so
I
see
where
they
put
all
kinds
of
services
in
one
place
that
didn't
belong
there
and
it
was
really
really
not
a
productive
move.
Can
you
rethink
how
you're
going
to
do
this
particular
situation?
L
The
director
of
the
health
department
is
a
bad
bad
lady,
and
but
we
keep
stuffing
other
responsibilities
to
her
and
I
think
you
have
to
think
about.
This
is
people
they're
people
that
are
doing
this
work
and
you
can
overload
people
please
reconsider,
taking
a
process.
The
restorative
justice
of
peace
is
phenomenal
in
terms
of
giving
people
another
way
to
look
at
living
their
lives
and
acting
and
reacting
and
I
think
that
it
needs
to
be
in
a
place
where
they
wouldn't
expect
a
kind
person
that
understands
to
be
there
at
the
police
department.
M
Hi,
my
name
is
Alisa
Basler
I
live
at
1715,
Ashland
Avenue
in
Evanston
I'm,
the
CEO
of
the
Illinois
Public
Health,
Institute
and
I'm
here
today,
in
my
capacity
as
an
Evanston
dressed
resident
and
as
a
member
of
the
Evanston
Health
Advisory
Council.
But
from
my
perspective
at
the
Illinois
Public
Health
Institute
I
can
tell
you
that
you
have.
M
One
of
the
most
important
things
to
remember
is
that,
like
health
is
at
the
center
of
all
of
this,
it
is
the
role
of
Public
Health
to
connect
those
issues
in
our
community
issues
that
range
from
violence
and
what
we've
been
talking
about
now.
Victim
services
to
chronic
disease
and
tuka
make
those
connections
because
they
are
all
connected,
and
what
we
have
in
in
our
health
department
is
a
health
department
that
understands
those
connections
and
leads
the
important
work
of
building
those
connections
and
systems
between
the
public
sector
and
the
private
sector.
M
Stakeholders
like
police,
hospitals,
human
service
providers,
schools,
early
education
and
on
and
on
and
on
the
health
is
the
Nexus
of
this
of
this
work
it.
The
all
of
these
things
affect
Public,
Health
and
public
health
affects
all
of
these
issues.
So
I
want
to
just
say
here
that
with
the
community
after
community
follow
and
the
community
after
community
in
the
state
are
following
our
lead
and
now
the
state
government
is
going
to
cut
and
the
legislature
is
going
to
follow
our
lead
on
things
like
tobacco
21.
M
We
are
health
leaders
in
this
state
and
we
need
to
recognize
that
and
I
think.
The
other
thing
that
we
need
to
understand
is
we
think
about
the
Health
Department
budget.
Today
is
that,
a
few
weeks
ago,
the
Cook
County
Board
repealed
the
sweetened
beverage
tax
and
now
we're
looking
at
200
million
dollars
in
cuts
at
the
Cook
County
in
Cook
County
government,
which
is
going
to
put
way
more
pressure
again
on
on
our
community
and
our
health
department.
M
And
you
know
thanks
to
thanks
to
our
Commissioner
suffered
in
we
under
who
he
understood
the
the
consequences
of
that
and
didn't
support
the
repeal.
But
nonetheless
it
was
repealed
and
they're
talking
about
a
30
million
dollar
cut,
nearly
30
million
dollar
cut
in
Cook,
County
health
and
hospital
systems
budget
and
the
share
there's
the
more
in
the
Sheriff's
Department
and
there's
more
in
the
public
defender's
office
and
there's.
M
So
all
of
these
issues
around
mental
health
and
Public
Safety
are
going
to
come
much
more
deeply
into
Evans
and
we're
gonna
have
to
deal
with
more
hair
because
the
county
is
going
to
be
able
to
deal
with
less
with
that
two
hundred
million
dollar
cut.
So
from
my
perspective
from
the
statewide
level
in
Illinois
in
Evanston,
we
have
we
are
incredibly
blessed
to
have
a
really
strong,
Health
and
Human
Services.
M
Department
and
really
strong
leadership
convening
and
connecting
the
other
departments
and
services
in
Evanston
and
that's
why
I'm
here
to
ask
you
to
reconsider
the
plan
to
cut
a
position
from
the
Evanston
Health
Department
I
know
it's
just
a
secretary,
but
you
can't
be
a
leader
if
you
don't
have
the
infrastructure
and
the
support
to
allow
for
that
leadership,
and
this
is
not
the
time
with
all
of
those
things
going
on
in
our
community.
This
isn't
the
time
to
cut
the
infrastructure
of
our
Public
Health
and
Human
Services
Department.
M
We
really
need
to
consider
its
it's
one
position.
I
know
it's
a
secretarial
position,
I
know,
but
it
is
how
we
support
the
kind
of
leadership
that
we're
seeing
now
from
our
to
Health,
Department
and
honestly.
I
really
can't
tell
you
because
I've
seen
health
departments
all
across
the
state
and
in
the
country,
and
we
have
a
really
good
one
and
we
should
not
be
undermining
it.
M
So,
with
all
of
the
challenges
that
are
facing
our
country
today
and
our
community
and
are
going
to
be
coming
more
to
face
us
with
the
cuts
at
the
Cook
County
I
urge
you
to
reconsider,
cutting
that
position
from
the
Health
Department
and
consider
ways
to
strengthen
the
health
department
and
continue
to
build
it.
It's
a
it's,
a
great
support
that
we
have
for
evidenced
and
restaurant
residents.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
Alyssa
Karen
singer
and
then
Karen
before
you
speak.
Is
there
anyone
else
that
wants
to
speak
about
the
budget
that
wasn't
signed
up?
If
you
just
raise
your
hand,
so
I
know
how
many
more
people
were
talking:
okay,
three,
three
more
three:
more
people:
okay,
so
we'll
take
you
in
order,
as
you
guys
were
so
Madeline
will
be
last
and
I'll.
Just
ask
that
you
mention
your
name,
so
I
can
get
it
on
the
on
the
piece
of
paper.
Karen.
N
So
I'm
not
here
to
briefly
I'm,
not
here,
to
comment
on
where
Victim
Services
belongs
or
who
should
manage
it.
But
I
am
here
to
speak
about
how
critical
the
domestic
violence
services
are
that
have
been
provided
by
victim
services.
For
decades
we
have
been
working
with
the
Evanston
Police
Department
for
over
25
years.
In
fact,
we
have
an
overnight
emergency
bed
reserved
for
them
when
they
need
to
bring
a
woman
and
her
children
into
safety
for
the
night.
N
We
know
firsthand
that
the
services
that
they
provide
are
critical
and
life-saving
and
Evanston
has
been
a
leader
and
we
work
in
16
communities.
So
we
know
that
Evanston
has
been
a
leader
amongst
North
Shore
communities
for
decades,
ensuring
that
domestic
violence
survivors
who
turn
to
the
police
department
are
provided
the
information
and
referrals
and
crisis
intervention
they
need
to
move
to
safety.
We
urge
you
to
ensure
that
residents
of
Evanston
do
not
experience
diminished
access
to
critical
domestic
violence
services.
N
Any
reduction
in
terms
of
quality
or
quantity
will
have
a
grave
impact
on
domestic
violence
survivors
in
Evans,
as
well
as
their
access
to
support
and
services.
So
we
at
the
YWCA,
Evanston
North
Shore,
just
want
to
say
we
stand
by
ready
and
willing
to
come
to
the
table
with
resources
and
expertise
to
help
support
Evanston,
in
whatever
way
we
can
to
ensure
survivors
of
domestic
violence
and
their
families
continue
to
receive
the
support
they
need.
Thank
you.
D
O
I
want
to
start
just
with
an
example
from
yesterday,
where
I
was
out
with
members
of
Paul's
staff
at
the
Clark
Street
Beach
bird
sanctuary,
along
with
a
whole
large
group
of
volunteers
who
had
hired
a
consultant
to
come
and
educate
staff
and
volunteers
about
how
to
do
habitat
restoration
at
the
beach.
And
you
know
you
so
that's
one
project
that
has
started
under
Paul's
watch
and
then
there's
also.
O
This
Schuykill
project,
in
which
you
know
another
citizen,
got
excited
about
a
grant,
worked
with
Paul
got
$100,000
and
now
you've
got
citizens
up
and
down
the
canal,
and
also
out
here
at
the
Civic
Center
that
are
coming
out
to
these
weekly
work
days
that
are
taking
weeds
office,
City
properties,
doing
plantings
in
city
properties
and
really
transforming
these
areas
and
I.
Just
to
step
into
my
role
as
a
consultant
for
a
second
I've
worked
with
public
land
agencies
all
around
the
region
and
I
really
have
never
seen
a
city
or
a
municipal
entity.
O
You
know,
or
a
government
entity
be
so
responsive
to
citizens
in
sort
of
catching
their
inspiration
and
their
spark
and
being
able
to
transform
that
into
real
on-the-ground
enthusiasm.
You
know
where
you've
got
really
scores
of
volunteers
now
who
are
engaged
and
excited
about
improving
natural
habitats
in
Evanston
and
I.
O
O
That
kind
of
thing
just
doesn't
happen,
so
you
know
I
would
say
we're
really
concerned
where
you've
got
a
lot
of
people
who
are
very
excited
about
Evanston,
proud
to
be
an
Estonians.
You
know
giving
a
lot
of
their
time
and
effort
and
energy
to
Evanston
and
I
think
it
was
a
real
shock.
You
know
the
idea
that
his
position
would
be
eliminated
and
I
also
know.
You
know
that
I
can
also
speak
for
his
staff,
that
you
know
they've
come
to
us
and
also
are
really
a
little
shocked
about
this.
O
O
You
know
there's
that
star
rating
is
something
that
the
city
has
chosen
to
measure
livability
and
the
first
run-through
on
that
star
rating
this
the
whole
natural
areas
section
was
really
really
low
and
since
then
there's
been
this
explosion
of
work
in
the
natural
habitat
areas,
you
know
you've
got
not
only
the
projects
I
mentioned
before,
but
canal
shores
you
know,
went
out
and
got
a
grant
to
try
to
improve
habitat
along
the
canal.
The
the
food
forests,
edible
acres,
incorporating
natural
habitat
there,
so
there's
just
there's
just
a
huge
amount
of
energy.
O
P
My
name
is
Priscilla
Giles
and
I
have
the
advantage
or
disadvantage
of
having
lived
in
Evanston
long
enough
to
see
so
many
budget
cuts,
and
so
many
more
people
than
were
here
when
we
had
a
lot
more
services.
I
urge
you
please
to
remember
this
as
your
voting
and
discussing
these,
so
that
you
do
not
make
even
more
cuts
where
we
have
more
people,
and
we
have
more
people
in
need
now,
people
who
need
jobs
and
not
to
have
them
cut.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
Q
I
will
not
only
be
saying
a
few
things
on
it
anyway,
Madeline
decree,
first
of
all,
I
am
NOT
a
mathematician
like
those
three
women
in
that
film
hidden
figures,
but
I
still
feel
we
should
have
kept
the
Evanston
Township
in
place.
My
opinion
did
it
need
changes?
Yes,
big-time
changes
that
program
help
poor
people
call
it
people
black
people,
african-american
people,
people
who
need
help
that
program,
help
people
miss
Ivana.
Q
She's
doing
a
beautiful
job,
beautiful
job,
but
Wally
I
need
to
know.
Maybe
no
one
else
needs
to
know
this,
but
I
need
to
know
where
that
money
went
we're.
Having
cuts
now
where's
the
programs
I
hear
some
cuts
being
taken
with
the
associate
workers
and
others
I.
Think
it's
November
to
six
that
we
will
be
finished
right.
Is
it
a
seven
to
say
something
about
this
budget
right?
Is
it
November
to
seven
any
more
weeks.
Q
A
B
A
So
here
hearing
nothing
further
I
hereby
adjourn
this
hearing,
okay,
and
that
was
the
number
two
if
you're
following
on
the
agenda
here
so
now,
we're
gonna,
open
public
hearing,
truth
and
taxation.
Hearing
for
the
2017
property
tax
levy
for
the
city
of
Evanston,
the
Evanston
City
Council
is
conducting
a
public
hearing
on
the
2017
property
tax
levy.
The
purpose
of
this
hearing
is
to
allow
for
public
input
into
the
proposed
levy.
There
will
be
no
final
action
on
the
tax
levy.
A
Today,
I
hereby
convene
the
hearing
for
the
2017
property
tax
levy
to
be
open.
The
2017
property
tax
levy
is
included
on
page
64
of
the
2018
proposed
budget
and
can
be
found
at
the
city
of
Evanston's
website,
which
is
city
of
Evanston
org
forward
slash
budget.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
tax
levy?
A
H
Sincerely
hope
I'm,
not
the
only
one
I
offered
a
list
of
tax
and
budget
cutting
recommendations,
some
of
which
were
emailed
to
the
council.
If
you
would
implement
a
fraction
of
those
and
others
that
have
been
offered
to
you,
you
would
not
need
to
increase
taxes.
It's
just
that
simple,
and
this
litany
of
taxes
that
you
are
proposing
is
just
one
more
layer
of
burden
on
top
of
what's
happening
with
the
state,
the
county
and
other
institutions.
H
Mayor
I,
thank
you
privately
and
an
email
to
which
was
also
copied
to
the
council
for
just
suggesting
prioritizing
prioritizing
spending
prioritizing
and
deferring
projects.
That's
six
point:
1
million
dollar
budget
shortfall
we
keep
hearing
about
that
would
be
that
would
evaporate
if
you
just
did
what
you
recommended
and
lastly,
I
just
want
to
circle
back.
H
I
know
this
may
not
be
the
time
to
do
it,
but
to
the
levy
Chandler
manager
position
issue,
because
it's
related
what
I'm
hearing
from
others
who
are
against
combining
the
position
and
is
that
they
fear
somehow
that
they're
going
to
lose
some
benefit.
I've,
not
heard
that
that's
not
the
case.
It's
simply
a
matter
of
being
able
to
pay
for
managing
Evanston's
facilities.
H
It
should
not
be
about
whether
or
not
you're,
you
know
your
basketball
is
inflated
to
your
liking.
There
are
much
more
important
priorities
you
just
heard
from
the
YMCA
about
providing
shelter
for
abused
women
and
their
children.
As
you
compare
the
two
which
one
would
you
choose
to
fund.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
R
My
name
is
Lila
Robb
and
have
lived
in
Evanston
for
40
years
I'm
coming
to
protect
the
Leavey
Center
I
abandon
everything
else
that
is
am
under
the
most
recognizable
recognizably
diverse
and
working
societies,
and
you
know
we're
always
we're
always
told
it's
not
going
to
impact
us
okay,
so
we
don't
believe
it.
It's
just
a
matter
of
faith
and
we'll
do
what
needs
to
be
done
for
the
city
of
course,
but
can
there
be
a
clause
in
there?
It
says
if
it
doesn't
work
you
go
back.
Is
there
one
of
those
clauses
included?
R
A
Okay,
seeing
no
hearing
nothing
further.
I
hereby
adjourn
this
meeting
okay,
so
this
is
the
end
of
the
public
hearing
for
the
truth
in
taxation
for
the
2017
property
tax
levy.
All
right.
We
now
move
on
to
item
number
four
on
the
agenda,
which
is
mayor,
public
announcements,
two
things
one
I
think
I
said
at
the
beginning.
Thank
you
for
coming
out
on
a
Saturday
morning
and
for
following
the
issues
of
our
city
for
giving
your
opinion.
A
A
I'm
very
happy
also
to
announce
that
Richmond
ochio,
who
is
the
executive
director
of
the
Cook
County
Housing
Authority,
is
going
to
be
here,
and
it's
going
to
have
take
about
15
minutes
at
the
beginning,
under
my
mayor,
public
announcements
to
address
Evanston
and
talk
about
the
work
that
they're
doing
in
the
opportunities
that
may
exist
to
leverage
that
so
that'll
be
money.
That'll
be
this
Monday,
which
is
October
30th
at
6:00
p.m.
A
that's
all
I
have
city
manager,
nothing,
sir
okay,
and,
as
I
mentioned,
the
city
clerk
I
spoke
to
this
morning
and
is
out
ill.
So
there's
no
communication
from
the
city
clerk
I
would
like
the
record
to
reflect
city
manager
that
Robin
drew
Simmons.
The
fifth
Ward
Alderman
is
here
in
attendance
with
that.
A
A
We
have
several
ordinances
that
are
up
for
introduction
and
then
the
last
one
SP
six
is
our
fiscal
year.
2008
budget
workshop
and
I
believe
at
that
workshop
we
will
get
into
some
of
the
details
of
city
manager
and
staff
will
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
specifically
about
some
of
the
issues
that
you
all
raised
during
public
comment,
whether
that
be
the
consolidation
of
a
manager
between
levy,
Center
and
Chandler,
the
Special
Victims
assistance
programs
at
the
police
department
or
the
or
the
consolidation
and
in
the
parks
department.
Okay,
so
we'll
have
an
opportunity
there.
S
A
A
C
C
To
be
clear,
they
won't
be
discussed
until
November
27.
Is
that
correct?
That's
correct,
okay,
all
right
special
orders
of
business,
sp1,
ordinance,
128,
oh
17,
city
of
Evanston,
2017,
tax
levy,
I'm
gonna,
read
the
whole
thing:
staff
requests
introduction,
which
levies,
the
annual
property
tax
for
general
fund
operations,
Illinois
Municipal
retirement
fund,
Police
and
Fire
pension
funds
and
the
general
assistance
fund,
totaling
30
million
one
hundred
and
one
thousand
two
hundred
and
nineteen
dollars
for
introduction.
Q
C
A
J
A
Okay,
we're
going
to
move
on
to
special
order
of
business
six,
which
is
the
fiscal
year
2018
budget
workshop
and
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
you
can
find
and
follow
that
budget
online
at
the
city
of
Evanston
org
forward,
slash
City
budget
forward,
slash
city
manager.
Would
you
like
to
take
us
through
this
discussion?
Yes,.
B
A
Okay-
okay,
so
just
just
just
to
make
note
so
alderman
Ruth
Simmons
has
to
get
back
to
work,
but
she
made
an
extra
special
effort
to
be
here
today
for
public
comment
and
wanted
to
hear
people's
comments
that
she'll
be
making
decisions
later
on
in
the
budget.
With
that
I
apologize
because
I
didn't
see
the
the
two
lights
that
came
on
so
I'm
gonna
go
with
alderman
Wilson.
First
then
alderman
Rainey,
then
Alden
Fleming,
all.
T
Right,
thank
you
and
I
didn't
count
speakers
but
I
think
just
to
kind
of
address
the
ones
that
people
were
here
for
in
numbers.
The
victim
services
question
to
me:
it
kind
of
breaks
out
into
three
categories:
one
I
guess:
location
second,
is
management,
and
then
the
third
is
capacity.
I
have
an
understanding,
but
it
could
be
wrong.
Keeping
the
services
in
the
police
station,
regardless
of
management
and
capacity,
is
that's
still
an
option.
Is
that
correct,
say
manager
and
that's
the
recommendation?
T
For
the
moment,
setting
aside
the
question
of
the
capacity
some
of
the
points
I've
heard
raised
in
the
community,
I've
tried
to
reach
out
to
some
people.
I've
talked
to
a
few
people,
but
not
enough
to
get
a
I
guess
a
full
understanding
of
where
people
fall
on
this.
But
there
seemed
to
be
some
idea
that
operating
under
the
management
of
the
police
department
might
make
it
less
comfortable.
T
Don't
know
how
I
feel
like
I
need
more
input
from
the
people
that
are
doing
the
work.
That's
not
traditionally
how
we,
you
know,
have
these
conversations
on
budget
questions,
but
it's
almost
like
it's
less
of
a
budget
question
more
of
a
of
a
policy
issue,
at
least
as
far
as
that
aspect
is
concerned.
Is
that
does
that
make
sense,
it
does
all
Ben
Wilson
members
of
the
constant
I,
don't
know
how
to
I.
Don't
know
how
to
kind
of
wrap.
My
well.
B
Well,
let
us
let
us
try,
ok
I'm.
We
anticipated
this
would
likely
be.
Among
the
first
questions,
the
council
asked
of
on
the
Thomas
Smith,
our
director
of
Health
and
Human
Services
is
here
she
has
a
presentation
she'd
like
to
walk
through,
because
we
have
been
very
thoughtful
about
this.
The
intention
here
is
not
to
provide
less
service
but
to
leverage
the
services
that
we
have
in
a
better
way
and
so
ovando.
If
I
could
ask
you
to
come
to
the
podium
and
we'll
let
her
walk
through
this.
V
Morning,
mayor
Haggerty,
City,
Council
members
and
manager
Bob
coats-
we
were
really
intentional
about
addressing
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
heard
bubble
up
in
the
community
concerns
that
we
heard
from
our
colleagues
and
peers,
and
so
we
hope
that
we
are
presenting
a
proposal.
That
is
perspective
of
that
perspective.
V
So
I'm
going
to
ask
and
again
this
was
a
collaborative
effort,
but
I'm
gonna
ask
chief
Eddington
to
kind
of
set
the
stage
for
us
and
give
us
a
historical
perspective
of
how
the
services
have
been
delivered
and
then
we'll
move
forward
with
a
recommendation
or
possible
proposal
and
options
for
you
to
consider.
Thank
you.
W
Thanks
director
Thomas
good
morning,
your
honor
of
Alderman
mr.
city
manager,
the
evidence
in
Police
Department
has
a
rather
proud
history
of
Victim
Services.
It
goes
back
almost
three
decades
and
I
want
to
first
start
off
by
acknowledging
that
work
over
the
decades
by
the
primarily
women
employees
of
the
city
of
Evanston,
who
have
provided
those
services
steadfastly
over
those
three
decades.
However,
two
things
have
collided:
a
six
million
dollar
budget
shortfall
in
a
change
in
public
expectation
of
what
is
to
be
delivered
in
the
area
of
services.
W
The
service
model
that
we
had
built
for
the
last
thirty
years
involved
credentialed
social
workers.
That
is
a
significant
part
of
this
budget.
Concern
that
we're
addressing
today,
I
think
in
many
ways
and
I
had
long
discussions
about
this
with
alderman
Holmes
of
over
many
years,
and
her
feeling
was
that
was
missing.
The
mark
that
we
weren't
addressing
the
needs
of
the
community
specifically
enough
with
that
type
of
employee
and
also
wrapped
in
this
budget
discussion,
is
the
cost
of
those
credential.
W
Social
workers
is
substantial,
and
so
now,
as
is
the
public
expectation,
have
slid
from
a
long-term
counseling
relationship
to
a
referral
based
system
and
as
if
as
we
go
through
the
numbers
on
the
slides
when
we
get
to
those
you'll,
see
that
a
substantial
amount
of
the
work
being
done
now
has
evolved
to
a
referral
system.
The
the
need
to
spend
that
money
for
credentialed
social
workers
has
become
obsolete
and
so
I
think
in.
W
W
W
I
think
you've
already
heard
from
Karen
singer
from
the
Y,
and
we
director
Thomas,
has
worked
diligently
once
this
issue
came
to
our
attention
to
begin
to
line
up
the
resources
and
partners
that
we
will
need
to
avail
ourselves
to
as
this
service
model,
changes
and
I
think
that,
in
the
thinking
between
a
director,
Hemingway
and
director
Thomas,
the
the
concerns
of
violence
prevention
are
up
most
in
their
minds
in
the
coordination
of
resources
throughout
all
city
departments
has
been
most
important
to
them.
Is
they
have
worked
through
this
issue
that
was
foisted
upon
us?
W
V
As
you
can
see,
these
numbers
come
directly
from
the
annual
report
that
the
police
department
avails
to
community,
and
this
is
what
the
numbers
look
like
for
the
annual
report
of
2015
just
for
the
victim
services
component.
As
you
can
see,
there
are
many
encounters
in
terms
of
follow
up
with
new
crimes
and
non
crime
related
cases
and
there's
many
instances
of
court
advocacy.
V
But
as
Chief
Eddington
mentioned,
that
a
lot
of
these
services
over
time
have
been
based
on
referrals,
and
so
the
challenge
we
have
is
the
complexity
of
the
cases
really
require
some
element
of
short
term
and
sometimes
long
term
case
management
services,
which
is
more
intensive
than
the
referral
system.
And
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
you
can
see
how
the
data
has
shifted
for
2016.
V
There
is
an
increase
in
the
number
of
encounters
in
contact
because
again,
unfortunately,
we're
seeing
an
increase
in
the
prevalence
of
trauma
and
that
trauma
is
defined
as
assault
cases,
domestic
violence,
cases
and,
unfortunately,
tragic
losses
such
as
fire
loss
of
property
and
increased
death
notification.
During
this
time
period,
and
the
next
slide
shows
you,
the
data
from
towards.
T
X
V
So
this
is
the
annual
data
and
report
from
the
youth
services
program,
and
this
is
primarily
the
work
of
I
think
Erika
Barton,
and
this
is
the
work
that
she
has
been
able
to
do
in
partnership
with
the
Evanston
Township,
High
School
and
some
community
partners,
and
this
speaks
to
the
amount
of
service
and
encounters
that
she
has
worked
with.
As
some
of
the
comments
were
made
about
the
restorative
justice
cases
in
the
peace
circle,
peace,
circle
events,
and
so
this
is
2015
and
again
we're
seeing
an
increase
in
the
need
for
this
continued
service.
V
Y
So
when
we
look
at
that
that
data,
so
what
is
the
takeaway
there
of
what
is
I'm?
You
know
what
I
mean
I
can
see
the
each
of
those
individual
things
changing
somewhat,
but
what's
the
overall
takeaway
for
someone
who's
a
lay
person
in
terms
of
what's
the
growing
need
and
what
is
it
that
the
department
or
that
our
victim
services
needs
to
change?
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
understand.
W
W
I
think,
if
you
look
at
the
data
from
the
victim
service
workers,
that's
another
subset
of
data
that
deals
with
the
cases
that
they're,
managing
and
I
think
that
the
focus
on
the
youth
service
person
is
that
direct
interaction
with
families
and
in
children
versus
the
referral
heavy
basis
from
the
victim
services
would
be
the
takeaway
that
we're
looking
to
emphasize
this
morning.
If
there's
any
other
specific
questions
about
any
of
those
areas,
I'd
be
happy
to
try
to
answer
them.
W
Z
One
of
the
things
that
would
be
helpful
to
me
is
if
we
could
just
take
a
test
case,
and
you
could
tell
me
just
really
simply
how
how
things
would
change
and
let's,
let's
say
that:
there's
an
incident,
the
police
respond
to
the
incident
and
it
requires
victim
services.
What
happens
now
and
what
would
happen
then.
V
Thank
you
for
your
questions.
I
think
in
a
part
of
the
presentation.
I
may
address
that.
Let
me
have
an
opportunity
to
share
with
you
the
proposals
and
then
just
check
I'll
check
in
and
make
sure
I've
answered.
That
question
is
that
okay
and
thank
you
for
your
questions,
so
I
wanted
to
kind
of
talk
about
how
the
health
department
transitioned
into
human
services,
so
the
health
department.
V
As
you
know,
it's
been
certified
by
the
state
of
Illinois
since
1874,
so
the
health
department
was
here
before
both
of
our
wonderful,
fantastic
hospitals
and
at
that
time
we
were
really
really
shoring
up
to
assure
that
we
emphasize
on
public
health,
environmental
health,
but
as
we've
shifted
and
we
historically
have
been
a
safety
net
provider,
and
what
that
mean.
That
means
that,
historically,
since
the
inception
of
the
health
department,
we
have
been
intentional.
Thank
you.
V
Thank
you
about
providing
services
for
vulnerable
populations
for
at-risk
populations,
populations
in
crisis,
and
so
we
have
been
a
respected
gatekeeper
in
the
community
to
address
that,
but
over
time,
as
the
evolution
of
our
medical
services
changed.
As
you
remember,
in
2009
with
the
closure
of
our
clinics,
there
was
an
a
missed
opportunity
that
we
start
to
see
a
more
increase
of
chronic
health
conditions.
We
started
to
see
an
increase
of
disenfranchisement
of
families
getting
into
care.
We
started
having
issues
with
access
to
care
and
it
wasn't
about
transportation.
V
It
was
about
families
were
being
sicker
in
the
community
and
not
getting
the
care
that
they
needed,
even
though
we
have
two
fantastic
hospitals
in
our
community,
but
with
the
evolution
of
medical
services
I'm
changing
in
2009.
As
you
know,
it
was
the
intention
to
restore
those
services
with
the
partnership
of
Erie
family
health
center,
and
that
has
been
successful,
and
then
we
moved
to
around
2014
with
the
integration
of
the
Township
services,
assuring
that
those
who
live
well
below
the
poverty
line
about
200%
we're
still
entitled
to
those
benefits
and
those
services.
V
So
public
health
does
require
a
deep
understanding
of
the
many
different
branches
one
of
science
from
molecular
biology
disease
pathology
to
epidemiology.
But
this
profession
is
marriage
of
art
in
science
and
what
I
mean
by
art?
I
mean
dealing
with
complexity
and
uncertainty,
promoting
restoration
for
at-risk
families
without
creating
a
dependency
on
the
service,
because
we've
been
in
the
business
of
Human
Services.
An
example
of
that
is
the
creation
of
the
Human
Service
Specialists
that
were
created
with
the
integration
of
the
township
services.
The
art
of
Human
Services
is
providing
support
without
disempowering
individuals.
V
Providing
these
wraparound
services
in
partnership
with
the
individual
included.
The
art
portion
of
Human
Services
is
also
tapping
into
the
strengths
and
resiliency
of
individuals
without
overstepping
and
when
I
speak.
When
I
spoke
to
my
colleagues
across
the
community
community
stakeholders
who
live
in
this
work
and
when
I
reached
out
to
my
own
public
health
peers,
I
understood
that
the
science
part
of
what
we
do
is
evidence-based
practice.
V
So,
in
essence,
with
the
changes
in
the
environment,
changes
in
our
community
complexity
of
what
individuals
need
families
need
individual,
behaviors,
all
related
to
traumatic
events.
There
is
an
opportunity
now
for
us
to
perform
this
art
in
science
addressing
the
trauma
that
happens
to
victims,
so
there
are
evidence-based
approaches
in
this
space
in
this
work.
So
first
is
important.
It
was
important
for
us,
as
colleagues
to
gather
and
to
evaluate
what
was
missing
in
our
current
service
delivery
model
and
what
is
available
for
our
residents,
who
have
experienced
any
form
of
trauma.
V
We
had
to
look
at
what's
missing
and
what
we're
currently
doing
and
what
we
identified
very
quickly
is
that
what
is
absent
in
our
current
service
delivery
model
is
the
intention
to
interrupt
the
site
of
the
cycle
of
violence.
We
do
a
really
good
job.
Addressing
our
community
partners
do
an
excellent
job
addressing
domestic
violence,
but
the
concern
is:
where
is
the
prevention
of
creating
the
violence?
We
don't
want
another
victim,
but
we
want
to
interrupt
the
cycle
of
violence
and
that
is
absent
in
our
current
service
delivery
model.
V
What's
also
absent
in
our
current
service
delivery
model
is
perpetrator,
intervention.
You
know
again.
Karen
singer
mentioned
all
the
great
work
that
they
do
in
terms
of
domestic
violence
and
they
do
some
perpetrator
intervention,
but
we
as
a
city
that
is
a
gap
for
us,
but
we
do
have
a
great
presence
in
court
liaison
and
we
do
great
work
in
death
notification
and
we
do
great
work
supporting
victims
during
personal
tragedies
such
as
a
fire
and
loss
of
property.
V
There
is
a
phrase
approach,
trauma-informed
care,
and
many
of
you
have
heard
of
this
phrase
before,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
clear
that
trauma-informed
care
really
seeks
to
incorporate
our
knowledge
about
trauma,
prevalence
about
the
impact
and
then
recovery,
and
that
is
all-inclusive.
And
we
do
this
by
five
primary
principles.
V
S
W
B
Ivana
before
before,
you
continue
I
think
just
to
make
clear.
We
would
continue
the
death
notification
and
personal
tragedy.
That's
that's
a
key
component
of
this.
We
would
continue
to
work
with
those
victims
as
they
go
to
court,
so
we
apologize.
We
use
court
liaison
to
separate
completely
different
ways,
but
we
still
call
it
court
liaison.
So
those
are
the
two
pieces
that
we
feel
are
most
important.
The
biggest
change
would
be
the
having
city
staff
continue
counseling.
We
are
we're
proposing
that
we
would
pivot
from
that
and
use
our
community
partners.
B
Have
the
city
staff
continue
to
be
both
caseworkers
but
but
have
other
agencies
and
those
two
things
that
are
absent.
You
know
find
those
other
community
resources,
so
I
don't
want
to
don't
want
to
don't
want
to
bury
the
lead
here.
As
far
as
you
know,
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
I've
asked
Ivana
to
be
very
thoughtful
about
this
and
so
she's,
taking
a
little
bit
more
time
to
explain
this
cuz
I
think
it's
important
for
the
council
in
the
community.
B
Are
you
see
that
we're
taking
a
bribe
pivoting
on
the
service
delivery,
but
I
want
to
make
clear
that
those
to
which
I
think
are
probably
the
most
important
current
things
that
we
do
would
continue?
As
is
the
the
death
notification
these
employees
would
be
on
call
the
located
at
the
police
department.
They
would
continue
to
respond
as
they
are
and
have
for
many
years
of
the
court
liaison.
B
What
about
is
talking
about
is
how
now
we
can
insert
additional
services
through
referrals
rather
than
having
those
licensed
MS
w's
on
a
city
staff
provide
that
service
independently
and
I.
Think
that's
the
key
here
and
again
I
thank
Ivana
for
taking
the
time
to
walk
us
kind
of
slowly
through
this,
because
I
think
this
is
a
very,
very
important
point.
Thank.
V
U
Think
Wally
answered
it,
but
just
to
make
sure
cuz
you
and
I
had
this
conversation
about
the
deaf
notifications
and
these
social
workers
are
advocates
being
able
to
go
to
fires
and
such
that's
needed,
and
that
time
you
thought
that
that
maybe
was
not
perfect.
So
now
that's
been,
we
were
gonna
remain
available
if
needed
to
go
out.
That
is
correct.
Okay,
perfect.
That
is
correct.
B
So
again,
just
to
be
very
specific
about
this,
because
this
is
an
important
point.
These
will
be
part-time
employees
and
so
part
of
their
their
job
up
will
be
one
full-time,
three
part-time
part
of
the
part-time
employees.
Job
was,
they
will
be
on
call.
So
we
have
many
staff
members
in
various
departments
that
are
on
call,
so
they
will
receive
an
increment
hourly
pay
to
be
on
call,
and
so
when
they
are
needed,
they
will
respond,
and
so
we
can
do
that.
V
V
Your
question,
because
at
the
time
we
spoke,
I
wasn't
real
clear
on
the
HR
employment
rules,
around
part-time
employees
being
able
to
be
24
hours,
and
so
I
had
to
reach
out
to
my
colleagues
in
HR
to
confirm
that.
But
that
is
the
case.
That
is
a
not
a
violation
of
employment
law,
so
the
expectation
is
that
they
would
be
on
call
receiving
standby
pay,
rotating,
etc
to
be
available
for
that
24
hour
notification.
Let's
ship.
S
You're
probably
going
to
address
this
in
your
next
couple
of
slides,
I'm
listening
and
in
the
beginning,
when
I
heard
from
miss
singer,
I
thought
we
are
going
to
have
a
choice
of
a
either/or.
But
then,
when
I
listen
to
the
city
manager,
is
this
going
to
be
a
hybrid
of
two
so
I,
just
as
I'm
listening
I'm
trying
to
do
the
processing
and.
B
And
an
alderman
Braithwaite,
any
members
of
the
council.
What
we're
proposing
is,
what's
in
the
proposed
budget,
that
we
would
do
this
with
city
staff,
I
think
a
vonda
wants
to
be
as
thoughtful
as
possible
working
with
community
partners.
We're
not
here
to
propose
that
we
would
contract
this
out
because
we're
not
quite
sure
what
that
looks
like,
and
this
is
something
that
needs
to
continue
and
I.
Think
we
would
want
to
staff
it
Vonda
is
describing.
B
We
will
continue
to
work
with
our
community
partners
as
we
go
down
this
road
of
making
sure
that
we
are
have
city
staff
as
first
responders
and
as
it
makes
sense
on
the
referral
basis.
We
may
come
back
to
you
in
a
year
and
say
we're
going
to
adjust
the
model,
because
it
may
make
more
sense
than
to
to
lean
more
heavily
on
our
community
partners
through
a
contract.
B
S
You
for
the
response,
I
guess
the
other
thing
that
I'm
less
than
comment
I'll,
make
it
again.
I'm
sure
it'll
be
addressed
later
now
that
I'm
clear
on
what
I
need
to
be
thinking
about
as
a
first
responder
I'm
hoping
that
staff
is
considering.
You
know
a
residency
requirement
around
that,
because
if
this
is
in
my
mind,
crisis
first
responder
personnel
I
think
we
should
think
about
that
as
we
are
choosing
to
ever.
This
person
would
be,
and.
B
And
in
all
them
in
Braithwaite
I
think
we
will
certainly
do
that.
I
think
the
skills
and
abilities
of
that
first
responder
are
are
many.
There
certainly
is
a
professional
training
aspect
that
is
required,
but
I
think
also
understanding
the
community
that
they're
serving
is
also
a
component
part,
and
so
again,
director
Thomas
Smith
and
I
have
discussed
that
I
think
in
alderman
G
variances
initial
comments.
B
You
know
raised
a
long-standing
issue
that
former
alderman
Holmes
had
had
that
that
perhaps
we
were
doing
fine
on
the
clinical
piece,
but
we're
not
always
sending
people
to
scenes
that
have
a
good
understanding
of
the
avesta'
community.
Some
of
the
dynamics
that
affect
violence
in
this
community,
and
so
with
this
proposal,
we're
looking
to
sort
of
rectify
a
portion
of
that.
Thank
you.
A
C
B
And
and
again,
we
need
to
come
up
with
a
better
yeah
there.
There
is
a
member
of
the
police
staff
that
works
on
cases
that
are
pending
when
we
refer
to
court
liaison
in
this,
and
since
that
is
whens
of
the
victim
services
staff
member,
accompanies
of
the
victim
of
crime,
to
their
particular
court
case,
to
provide
support
understanding
of
the
process
so
that
those
are
two
separate
and
distinct
positions.
I.
D
C
It
could
be
confusing.
Second
of
all
when
you
say
that
that
service
and
I'm
talking
about
the
victim
court
liaison
person,
are
you
saying
that
that
person
is
going
to
be
a
part-time
person?
Or
are
you
saying
that
that
person
is
going
to
be
the
person
who
is
now
currently
serving
in
that
role
will
continue
doing
that
Albin.
B
Or
any
members
of
the
council,
we
have
provided
layoff
notices
to
the
individuals
in
the
police
department
because
we
intend
to
reconstitute
the
positions,
so
there
will
be
one
full-time
position
that
is
the
coordinator
responsible
for
all
of
these
services.
I
would
anticipate
that
that
person
will
respond
and
take
part
of
the
on-call
responsibilities.
I
anticipate
that
that
person
will
also
go
to
court,
but
in
addition,
the
part-time
people
as
part
of
their
role
will
also
go
to
court
and
will
also
respond
as
needed
when
the
police
department
calls
and
the
individuals
previously
held.
B
C
Said
numerous
times
during
your
responses
to
people
that
these
positions
will
these
these
duties
will
not
change.
These
duties
are
going
to
change.
It
sounds
to
me,
explain
again
more
clearly
about
the
24
hour
on
call
people
who
are
going
to
serve
in
what
role,
what
what
are
they
going
to
be
doing?
They.
B
Will
continue
to
do
what
they
do
today,
so
the
so
that
there
is
a
there
is
a
police
incident
and
chief
Addington
you're
there
and
I
am
I,
think
probably
you're
better
to
explain
what
they
currently
do.
So
we
are
gonna,
but
just
to
be
clear
what
we
were
going
to
continue
to
provide
what
we
currently
do
for
victims
of
crime,
we're
going
to
continue
to
provide
the
assistance
at
court.
What
we
are
going
to
do
less
of
is
counseling
of
those
victims
by
city
staff.
B
C
C
But
she's
saying
is
a
little
clinical
and
more
or
less
over
my
head,
but
what
I
want
to
know
is,
when
you
say
the
24
hour,
people
who
are
going
to
be
part-time
people.
Are
you
know
that
it's
not
a
violation,
I
mean
who
are
these
people
going
to
be,
what
roles
do
they
play
in
the
city?
Otherwise,
is
this
gonna
be
like
the
guy
in
engineering
who
comes
out
and
does
lighting
sometimes?
Are
they
going
to
be
specifically
trained
social
workers
or
counselors
over.
B
Here,
they're
going
to
be
specifically
trained
in
the
classification
we
have
for
director,
Thomas
Smith
can
explain
what
this
is,
but
yes,
these
will
be,
but
they
will
not
necessarily
be
licensed.
Master's
degrees
in
Social
Work.
Part
of
part
of
this
proposal
is
to
is
to
change
that,
and
so
we
do
not
need
those
types
of
trained
clinicians
to
do
the
work
that
they
will
be
doing,
and
so
we
will
have
other
trained
social
service
professionals
to
be
able
to
do
that
was
it
will
not
be
the
engineer
on
the
streets.
These
will
be
trained.
V
You
would
give
me
an
opportunity,
I'm,
gonna
kind
of
talk
about
that
when
I
speak
to
the
positions
and
and
hope,
I'm,
anxious
and
I
know,
because
this
is
so
important
to
all
of
us.
So
if
you
give
me
an
opportunity,
I'll
get
there
and
I'll
check
in
and
make
sure
I've
answered
that
question
that
there.
Z
Thanks
and
and
I'm
willing
to
wait
for
that
ovando,
but
I'm
now
I'm,
even
as
alderman
Rainey
said,
I'm
really
flummoxed
about
this.
It's
like
one
more
slot
and
I,
don't
feel
real
comfortable
about
it.
I
have
to
say
so.
I
can
see
Karen
singer
in
the
audience
kind
of
making
kind
of
having
a
question
and
I'm
wondering
if
it
no
okay,
you
don't
I'm
I
was
just
okay,
you'd
like
to
continue
okay
but
I.
Z
A
V
Really
I
understand
how
important
this
is
and
that's
why
I'm
spending
I've
spent
so
much
time
working
with
my
colleagues
to
hopefully
get
a
proposal.
That's
acceptable,
so
I
hope
to
answer
your
questions,
so
the
the
principles
of
trauma-informed
care
and
Karen
finger
and
others
can
speak
to
this
as
well.
The
primary
principles
are
safety,
trustworthiness,
transparency,
choice,
collaboration
and
empowerment
and
I
just
want
to
kind
of
define
what
what
what
I'm
thinking
around
those
terms
for
safety,
of
course,
want
a
short
physical
and
emotional
safety
for
trustworthiness
and
transparency.
V
It's
a
it's,
a
meaningful
sharing
of
power
and
decision-making
and
the
operations
will
be
transparent,
ensuring
trustworthiness
through
clarity
and
consistency.
This
staff
will
provide
this
principle.
The
staff
will
also
consider
a
voice
and
choice.
Many
times
victims
voice
is
goes
unheard,
and
so
we
want
to
be
intentional
about
hearing
the
voice
of
those
who
are
in
trauma
and
in
tragedies,
and
the
aim
here
is
to
not
only
strengthen
staff
perspective,
but
also
the
experiences
or
the
families
that
we
support
so
in
choice.
V
There's
a
recognition
of
need
for
an
individualized
approach,
so
we're
not
gonna
lump
its.
We
understand
that
one
size
does
not
fit
all
for
everyone
in
trauma.
We
want
to
do
this
in
collaboration,
which
comes
in
our
partners,
leveraging
the
power
and
difference
of
the
participants
as
well
as
our
partners,
and
we
also
want
to
recognize
that
healing
must
happen
in
relationship
and
sharing
of
power,
and
then
we
also
want
to
empower
individuals
tapping
into
their
strengths
and
recognizing
their
resiliency
and
validating
that.
V
So
for
your
consideration,
the
next
slide
will
share
with
you
the
proposal
that
we're
thinking
so
the
positions
will
be
one
full-time
senior
Human
Services
advocate.
The
hope
is
that
this
person
will
conduct
ongoing
refresher,
just-in-time,
trainings,
nationally
recognized
trauma-informed,
approaches,
train
and
coach.
The
team,
because
we're
thinking
of
a
team
approach
to
deliver
Universal
support
for
victims
exposed
to
forms
of
trauma,
training,
coach
and
resiliency,
and
healing,
provide
leadership
for
the
development
and
promotion
of
trauma,
awareness
and
promote
trauma-informed
and
strength
based
approaches.
V
V
The
human
services
advocate,
which
will
be
the
three
part-time
advocates
they
will
serve
as
liaisons
to
our
schools
and
agencies.
They
will
serve
as
advocates
to
our
parents
and
teachers,
a
facilitating,
a
trauma-informed
practice.
They
will
also
work
with
agencies
regarding
trauma
and
transformative
initiatives.
They
will
work
collaborative
collaboratively
with
our
current
staff.
We
have
currently
one
Human
Service
Specialists
mr.
foucha,
who
works
with
at-risk
families,
and
we
have
two
of
our
licensed
clinical
social
workers
that
are
currently
employed
in
Health
and
Human
Services,
providing
the
general
assistance.
V
So
these
our
hope
is
that
these
positions
will
be
in
alignment.
What
we
currently
have,
and
so
it
will
be
the
expectation
that
the
Human
Services
Division
of
the
health
department
would
synergistically
operate
in
this
way
to
support
victims
to
do
the
notifications
and
also
to
support
those
in
tragedy.
So
these
positions
will
be
coordinators.
V
They
will
again
work
with
our
current
staff
and
the
hope
is
that
we
would
get
the
right
mix
that
we
would
recruit
not
only
the
paraprofessional
and
not
only
the
social
worker,
but
also
those
who
have
an
understanding
of
the
cultural
and
linguistic
sensitivity.
That
must
be
present
to
serve
those
in
this
community,
so
now
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Lawrence.
Who
is
going
to
also
talk
about
a
transition
of
a
position,
and
this
is
also
for
your
consideration.
AA
Good
morning,
mr.
mayor
members
of
council
city
manager,
Baca
Wits
I
want
to
talk
to
you
guys
just
a
little
bit
about
the
youth
advocate
position
and
how
we
believe
that
we
have
a
good
strategy
in
transitioning
that
position,
but
before
I
get
into
the
position
and
what
it
will
do.
I
want
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
how
we
kind
of
got
here
from
a
historical
perspective,
with
our
juvenile
advocacy
for
many
many
years.
AA
The
police
department
housed
not
just
victim
services,
but
it
also
housed
outreach
team
members
as
well
as
youth
advocacy
and
over
through
that
those
practices.
You
know
the
city
made
the
decisions
several
years
ago.
That
was
not
the
best
model
to
have,
because
there
was
all
kind
of
challenges
with
outreach
workers
being
part
of
the
police
department,
and
so
with
that,
and
then
we
were
not
focused
on
preventive
methods
during
that
time.
AA
So
in
the
early
2011-12,
the
decision
made
by
the
council
in
the
city
leadership
was
to
re-establish
our
youth
and
young
adult
division
or
out,
and
our
outreach
workers
into
the
Parks
and
Rec
and
Community
Services
Department.
We
went
out
and
hired
a
tremendous
manager
who
led
that
team
and
was
very
integral
in
selecting
our
current
members
of
our
outreach
team.
We
model
our
operation
of
what
we
currently
do
on
Operation
Ceasefire
and
through
also
models
that
are
endorsed
by
the
Office
of
Juvenile
Justice
and
delinquency
prevention.
AA
Our
current
team
is
a
mix
of
former
offenders
and
non
offenders
who
overcame
high
risk
environments
and
backgrounds.
Those
models
that
we
that
we
are
following
are
what
has
shown
to
be
successful
throughout
this
country
and
that's
how
our
current
team
is
so
successful,
because
a
lot
of
them
have
been
in
those
environments
and
I've
been
able
to
can
help
navigate
our
current
young
people
when
they
are
faced
with
those
same
kind
of
environments
and
so
through
our
current
structure.
AA
We
are,
we
look
at.
We
think
it's
key
and
being
able
to
relate
to
young
people
in
today's
society
by
having
folks
who
have
been
there
and
what
we're
proposing
and-
and
we
also
use
a
very
big
tool.
The
mayor,
Summer
Youth,
Employment
Program.
This
allows
our
current
outreaching
youth
and
young
adult
division,
access
to
families
and
through
access
to
families
as
a
whole,
not
just
a
kid.
AA
We
hired
a
kid
once
we
get
that
kid
within
our
parameters
that
gives
us
access
to
the
rest
of
the
family
and
any
crisis
or
trauma
that
family
may
be
facing.
Our
current
outreach
team
injects
themselves
into
trying
to
treat
that
family
as
a
whole,
and
so
as
we
are
moving
forward
into
this
proposal,
what
we
believe
is
that,
if
we
bring
the
youth
advocate
position
into
our
department,
we
think
believe
that
there
is
a
synergy
by
combining
all
of
the
city's
overall
at-risk
services
into
one
department.
AA
We
can
really
start
to
create
and
look
at
victims
and
victim
services
in
terms
of
juveniles
and
how
we
really
not
just
deal
with
the
individual,
but
we
also
look
at
the
whole
family
as
a
team.
We
also
believe
that
the
youth
advocate
can
be
integrated
into
our
new
system.
Right
now
we
have
a
new
software
system,
known
as
the
apricot
system,
and
that
system
is
where
we
use
where
we
are
tracking
all
of
our
contacts.
AA
We
also
want
to
say
that
the
department
will
be
able
to
serve
clients
in
a
more
comprehensive
and
holistic
way.
So
what
we
are
proposing
to
you
today
is
that
the
the
position
the
youth
advocate
position
become
a
part
of
the
come
community
services
division
in
my
department.
We're
also
saying
they
will
continue
to
coordinate
in
support
of
families
that
are
experiencing
youth
related
crisis.
She
will
continue,
or
that
will
continue
to
focus
on
diversionary
options,
for
juvenile
offenders,
as
well
as
coordinated
services
with
community
partners
in
juvenile
court
systems.
AA
The
position
will
continue
to
do
the
same.
It
provide
the
same
services
that
it
currently
do
does
other
opportunity.
We've
heard
some
terms
earlier
today.
You
know
restorative
justice.
He
circles
too
many
services
programs.
The
youth
advocate,
provides
all
of
these
to
the
juveniles
in
which
she
currently
serves
and
supports.
AA
AA
B
So
all
during
flow,
many
members
of
the
council,
so
we're
making
an
adjustment
to
our
proposed
in
this
slide.
I
think
it
now
reflects
what
that
new
proposal
would
be.
So
the
the
point
eight
youth
advocate
that
there's
currently
1.3
FTE
youth
advocates
budgeted.
The
miss
Barton
is
a
point,
eight
employee.
We
are
proposing
that
that
position
not
be
eliminated.
B
Instead,
that
that
position
transfer
to
the
parks,
recreation
and
Community
Services
Department,
we
are
continuing
to
propose
that
the
point
five
FTE,
which
is
currently
vacant
and
not
used
that
that
would
come
out
so
that
we
would
transfer
the
one
an
employee,
the
point
eight
FTE
to
Parks
and
Recreation.
So
we
are,
we
are
earlier
walking
back
from
that
proposal
to
keep
miss
Barton,
doing
the
work
that
she's
doing.
The
only
change
is
that
she
would
report
from
a
management
perspective
to
Parks
and
Rec.
She
would
continue
to
be
housed
at
the
police
department.
B
The
slide
also
I
think
breaks
down
a
little
bit
more
clearly
of
the
balance
of
this.
So
the
six
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
is
the
currently
budgeted
portfolio
staff
in
police,
doing
both
victim
advocacy
and
youth
advocacy
and
as
director
Thomas
Smith
detailed
and
the
Health
Department
we'd
be
adding
one
senior
Human
Services
specialist
one
full-time
position
and
then
the
three
part-time
positions
and
Human
Services.
B
U
A
man
so
I'm
a
question
and
I'm
sorry
I
had
to
step
out
for
a
second.
So
maybe
you
answered
this
director
Thomas,
but
when
you
mentioned
the
things
that
were
absent
on
that
little
green
slide
and
the
things
that
we
were
doing
well,
you
mentioned
the
violence
cycle,
interruption
and
the
perpetrator,
intervention
I
believe
correct,
did
I
miss
where
you
covered,
how
those
are
going
to
be
additional
services.
We
were
going
to
pick
up
sure.
V
U
So
then
my
question,
I
guess
for
you
and
director
Hemingway,
is:
has
that
been
considered
to
be
some
kind
of
way
we
can
utilize
or
add
on
to
our
outreach
team.
I
can
tell
you
just
this
week
my
daughter
called
me
from
McDonald's
after
school.
She
was
very
nothing
interested
or
whatever
she
had
experienced.
U
There
was
a
fight
at
McDonald's
and
Nathan
Orman
was
there
to
break
up
the
fight
and
I
think
take
one
of
the
kids
home,
and
you
know
she
was
calling
just
to
tell
me
all
about
it
and
then
I
know
I
was
at
a
fundraiser
with
the
previous
mayor,
and
there
was
a
young
man
who
I
know
that's
been
in
contact
with
our
police.
Many
times
was
there
with
Stacy
morenae,
and
the
young
man
gave
this
whole
presentation
about
what
he
had
learned
about.
U
Non-Violence
through
the
summer
program,
and
you
know
was
it
was
very
interesting,
so
I
think
that
some
of
that
is
my
understanding
that
our
outreach
team
is
doing
so
I'd
love
for
us
to
further
support
them
and
that
work
versus
just
looking
at
kind
of
referring
that
out.
Does
that
make
sense?
Well,.
V
U
D
AA
So
alderman
Fleming,
we
agree,
I
mean
that's.
Why
we
believe
there
is
some
synergy
here
that
we
can
try
to
capture
and
start
to
create
with
supporting
the
work
of
the
current
outreach
team.
But
you
know
the
work
of
the
youth
advocate
is
different.
She
thought
she
does
restorative
justices,
I,
think
in
peace
circles
and
things
of
that
nature.
But
there
is
we
view
that
there
is
some
bringing
them.
The
two
entities
together
could
create
an
opportunity
that
both
ways
there's
some
support.
That
is
gotten
garner.
Thank.
S
You
sir
I
just
want
to
say,
save
and
also
to
our
our
staff
and
community
partners.
I
can
appreciate
the
thoughtfulness
that
went
into
this
plan,
so
you
know
thank
you
for
that
during
a
very
tough
budget
season,
so
that
was
the
first
thing.
The
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
share
is
just
throughout
the
presentation.
I
can
also
appreciate
the
fact
that
we're
changing
the
name,
I
feel
like
Victim
Services
for
years,
has
been
just
incredibly
stigmatizing.
S
So
I
also
appreciate
that
director
Hemingway
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
really
excited
about
I
feel
like
that's.
Probably
one
of
sort
of
the
icing
on
the
cake.
Is
the
software
and
and
I
really
I,
don't
know
where
it
came
from.
I
would
love
to
see
the
test
site
because
I've
felt
for
years
that
that's
been
kind
of
the
missing
piece
and
when
I
thought
about
cradle
career
I
won't
go
down
that
path.
I'm
like
this
is
something
that
this
town
has
needed
for
years.
S
S
I
think
there
are
also
people
who've
learned
how
to
abuse
the
system
in
some
ways
and
so
to
be
thoughtful
and
how
we
track
those
resources
and
who
interacts
with
the
families
and
if
there's
a
community
partnership
that
can
be
a
part
of
this
I
think
is
a
really
just
fascinating
approach
to
how
we
deliver
services
to
our
families
in
need.
So
I'd
love.
Well,
it
sounds
like
everybody's
gonna
talk
about
it,
so
I'll
shut,
my
mouth
and
I
want
to
hear
more
about
that.
Please.
B
And
it's
something
that
we're
so
proud
of
I'm
so
proud
of,
because
I
think
all
of
us
all
the
senior
staff
are
proud
of
about.
Two
years
ago
we
convened
a
group
of
city
staff
that
never
talked
to
one
another
and
that
were
the
folks
that
provide
social
services,
so
the
folks
in
Parks
and
Rec
Kevin
Brown
and
his
staff
Bob
doorknocker
and
the
work
that
he
does
the
library
the
work
that
they
do,
the
police
department,
the
fire.
B
So
everyone
who
provides
social
service,
Health
and
Human
Services
Department
we
convened
in
a
room
when
we
went
around
and
said
what
do
you
need?
What
what?
What
are
the
gaps
with
with
what
we
needed
to
do
and
Audrey
Thompson
who's?
A
key
member
of
this
really
is
the
one
who
raised
that,
and
so
we
said:
okay,
we're
gonna,
find
a
software
package
that
fulfills
this,
because
there
wasn't
one
out
there.
B
So
we
called
on
some
of
our
IT
staff,
actually
Malika
Samar,
who
is
who's
now
on
our
IT
staff,
was
in
the
Community
Development
Department.
Before
this
is
staff
found
the
software
we
allocated
funds
to
do
that,
and
so
now
there's
how
many
hundred
people
are
we
tracking
approximately
a
few
hundred.
Certainly
it's
been
five
departments
are
using
it.
The
library
is,
was
working
with
that.
We're
trying
to
incorporate
the
presence,
mental
health
staff,
because
they're
encountering
people
and
we're
dealing
with
some
HIPAA
and
other
requirements
are
still
working
through
that.
B
So
one
of
the
goals
with
everything
you
see
on
the
screen
is
to
bring
that
those
key
staff
together,
because
it's
it's
been
a
whole
and
and
again
by
reallocating
the
the
resources
but
we're
trying
to
say
we
can
continue
to
provide
good
services,
but
perhaps
we
don't
need
the
clinicians,
the
MSW
folks,
it's
all
$680,000,
there's
a
lot
of
money
for
anything
that
we
do
and
I
think
that
that
the
apricot
system
is
a
real
key
piece
of
that.
So
thank
you
for
giving
me
a
few
moments
to
grow
about
something
heretofore.
Y
Yes,
thank
you,
so
I
wanted
to
step
back
I!
Think
that's
terrific
I,
remember
when
we
we
bought
the
the
apricot
software
and
how
the
presentation
that
we
had
about
that.
So
it's
fantastic
that
that's
working
that
well,
but
I
wanted
to
just
go
back
to
the
issue
of
the
prevention
and
and
the
perpetrator
intervention.
V
Well,
so
the
health
department,
we
have
really
survived
and
operated
well
with
our
partnerships,
and
so
we
do
have
a
partnership
with
the
YWCA
and
I
can't
speak
to
their
capacity.
But
in
conversations
that
I've
had
with
Karen,
who
is
still
present
that
they
have
the
ability
to
continue
to
partner
with
us
on
several
entities.
So.
Y
I
think
that
the
that
what
you
and
the
chief
we're
talking
about
is
something
that
we're
all
very
interested
in.
How
do
we
ever
stop?
How
do
we
stop
the
cycle
of
violence,
so
no
one
ends
up
in
court
or
becomes
a
victim,
so
that
I
know
I
think
that's
really
critical
for
us
to
critical
to
connect
to
and
Karen's
raising
her
hand
behind
you
come
on
up.
You.
D
N
Mean
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
ways
that
we
do:
violence,
interruption
and
I
just
want
to
name
them.
I
think
when
a
police
officer,
for
instance,
goes
out
on
a
domestic
violence,
call
which
is
frequently
in
this
city
the
ability
to
give
victims,
information
and
referral
and
have
a
place
where
they
can
call
is
critical
to
that
victim
safety
and
continued
danger,
and
so
the
24/7
hotline
that
we
have
is
a
critical
service
that
works
to
help
prevent
or
interrupt
the
violence.
N
I
think
the
other
thing
we've
been
doing
for
a
number
of
years
with
the
police
department
and
several
other
entities
across
the
city
is
something
called
the
emergence,
the
high-risk
emergency
response
team
and
that's
a
coordinated
effort
of
first
responders
in
the
city,
and
we
have
spearheaded
that,
and
that
is
to
really
talk
about
how
we
can
stop
or
deescalate
continued
violence,
not
only
in
terms
of
lethality
but
in
terms
of
escalating
violence,
and
we
can
continue
and
hope
to
continue
to
involve
the
city
as
a
partner.
In
that.
N
Z
Thank
you
Karen,
because
that
was
really
helpful
to
me,
because
the
question
I've
been
asking
now
a
couple
of
times.
What
happens?
You
know
what
happens
when
a
call
goes
out,
there's
a
need
on
the
street
who's
going
to
respond,
and
so
right
now
our
Police
Department
responds
and
you
get
involved
and
I'm
assuming
that
you're
there
24/7.
If
there's
an
emergency,
your
doors
open,
somebody
can
come
in
yeah.
N
Z
So
that's
that's
that's
my
question.
So
that
goes
back
to
the
part-timers.
The
who's
on
call
where's,
the
you
know,
who's
gonna
be
answering
the
telephone
and
what
happens
because
I
think
that's
the
critical
right
time
right
there
I'm
not
so
concerned
about
who's
gonna,
follow
up
and
continuing,
because
we
do
a
good
job
on
that
and
I
couldn't
I
can
trust
that
yeah.
But
what
happens
at
the
scene?
Okay,.
V
Karen
and
I
had
a
conversation
about
this,
because
in
the
research
that
I
did,
that
that
model
having
a
victim
advocate
at
the
scene
with
a
officer
is
not
them
evidence
based
model.
It's
not
wrecked,
it's
highly,
not
recommended,
and
so
when
I
ran
that
past
Karen,
who
I
think
is
the
expert
we
agreed
on
that
that
that's
not
the
way
we
should
be
operating
and
that's
how
we
operate
currently.
Thank.
Z
You,
the
other,
the
other
just
last
comment.
I'll
have
is
that
I
this
had
come.
This
discussion
had
come
to
human
services,
I
think
it's
a
very
helpful,
useful
discussion
to
be
having
and
I
wish
that
we
had
spent
more
time
on
it.
I'm
a
little
uncomfortable
I've
heard
from
a
lot
of
people
and
out
in
the
public
about
you're
doing
this
as
a
as
a
cost-cutting
measure
and
I
think
that
makes
them
feel
really
uncomfortable
good.
W
U
Just
to
clarify,
though
you
you're
talking
specifically
about
domestic
violence,
calls
we
have
many
other
calls
that
our
victim
advocates
or
human
services,
whatever
we
call
them
well,
will
or
can't
respond
to
and
I
feel
like
they
need
to
respond
to
I.
Think
our
police
officers
prickly
about
the
Deaf
notifications,
I,
don't
know
what
the
police
level
of
Social
Work
training
is,
and
that
might
be
something
that
can
be
a
very
long
process.
U
And
so,
if
our
police
need
to
move
on
to
the
next
case,
we
I
would
think
we
want
to
have
a
victim
services
person
there
to
handle
the
other
parts.
I
just
want
to
be
clear
with
people
who
are
listening
or
watching
that,
when
you
are
talking
about
is
maybe
not
safe,
is
just
domestic
violence,
but
we
have
many
other
calls
in
which
we
might
want
police
might
want.
Citizens
might
want
someone
else
there,
aside
from
a
police
officer
and.
V
U
Karen,
who
comes
out
may
be
with
the
police
right.
That's
your
first
point
of
contact
for
whatever
the
thing
is,
with
this
long,
lasting
trauma,
probably
I'm
assuming
would
be
nice
for
the
family
to
continue
to
have
Karen
as
their
when
a
contact
for
referrals
or
whatever
it
is
they're
getting.
So
that's
my
concern
when
we
talk.
V
U
V
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
city
manager
and
staff,
all
of
the
the
presentation
that
you
put
together
in
just
the
robust
conversation
and
Karen
singers.
Thank
you
as
well
for
chiming
in
in
the
chief
I
know,
there
are
other
items
that
we
want
to
get
to,
and
I
would
like
to
try
to
get
us
out
of
here
by
noon
by
noon.
If
we,
if
we
can
so
city
alderman
Rainey
earlier
you,
your
light
had
been
on.
Was
there
a
different
topic?
You
wanted
to
talk
about,
or
we
sure
can
go
ahead.
C
Q
C
B
Append
the
proposed
budget
is,
does
not
have
the
change,
so
it's
the
budget
balancing
worksheet
in
order
to
deal
with
the
deficit.
That
would
have
the
change.
So,
as
is
currently
in
the
the
base
budget,
there
is
the
one
recreation
manager,
so
we
are
proposing
in
order
to
balance
the
budget
that
that
position
would
be
eliminated.
I
know.
G
C
Be
as
it
after
listening
to
the
presentation
by
director,
Thomas
and
Hemingway
it,
it
becomes
more
and
more
clear
that
that
the
levy,
Senior,
Center
and
I-
know
you're
gonna
object
to
this,
but
it's
becoming
more
and
more
like
a
stepchild
it
it
has.
It
has
the
levy
foundation
watching
it
and
trying
to
take
care
of
the
best
they
can
it
has.
C
It
has
such
a
following
and
such
a
devoted
membership
and
I
think
it's
at
a
point
now,
where
there
are
so
many
alternate
uses
going
on
uses
going
on
in
the
center
that
it's
getting
a
little
scary
for
me
to
continue
thinking
about
it
as
just
a
Senior
Center
and
that
that's
worrisome
for
me,
I,
see
people
and
and
I
know
some
might
think.
Oh
that's
a
good
thing
that
it's
becoming
very
diverse,
that's
a
good
thing
after
five
o'clock
but
I'm
starting
to
see
it
creeping
during
the
day.
I
know
weekends.
C
It's
there's
parties
there
all
the
time.
That's
a
good
thing!
I'm!
Looking
at
the
revenue
column
here,
I'm
I'm
wondering
what
does
that
revenue
column
include.
Does
that
include
the
the
weddings
and
the
parties?
The
the
rentals
does
that
include
that
does.
It
also
include
the
memberships
so
I'm
asking
these
questions
so
that
perhaps
I
can
get
a
really
good
detailed
budget
memo
regarding
the
money.
That
is,
that
you're
fading
here
so
I
want
I,
want
the
council
really
to
give
some
thought
to
not
not
breaking
up
the
program
director
or
the
program
supervisor.
C
It's
it's
a
really
bad
idea.
I
know
you've
heard
that
people
really
love
this
person.
I
I,
don't
personally
know
this
person,
but
I
do
know.
The
membership
and
I
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
them.
They've
been
there
a
long
time,
I'm
in
touch
with
the
foundation
I've
been
to
many
of
the
foundation
meetings.
They
meet
7:30
in
the
morning
8
o'clock
in
the
morning,
and
they
are
extremely
concerned,
and
it's
not
because
of
me.
C
This
building
is
there
it's
because
of
the
levy,
family
and
I
think
we
know
that
some
of
you
weren't
here
when
the
levy
family
made
this
thing
happen,
but
they
are.
They
are
extremely
concerned,
and
the
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
and
and
I'm
I'm
just
I'm
I'm,
not
even
speculating
but
I'm
I'm
concerned.
We
don't
want
to
lose
their
interest
and
I
I,
don't
believe
we
ever
would,
but
the
the
thing
we
want
to
do
is
engage
them
even
more,
not
less
and
I.
C
I
think
that
we
we
want
to
respect
their
wishes
and
the
wishes
of
the
membership.
I,
don't
see
us
doing
this
to
any
other
and
the
other
of
the
community
centers
other
than
Chandler,
and
where
are
the
Chandler
people?
Why
aren't
they?
Why
aren't
they
challenging?
This
I
also
have
been
told
that-
and
you
know,
we've
always
shared.
C
C
Z
Z
It's
and-
and
we
need
to
put
our
attention
you
know,
to
to
doing
a
good
job
and
I
think
that
we
would
not
be
doing
a
good
job
if
we,
if
we
didn't
give
the
levy
center
of
the
support
that
it
needs
and
I
am
absolutely
in
favor
of
keeping
keeping
these
two
things
separate
and
keeping
the
program
manager
full-time
at
the
levy
center.
So
please
consider
that
thank.
U
Real
quick
at
home
director
Lauren
I
mean
it
sorry,
director
Hemingway,
so
did
address
what
Ottoman
Rainey
said
because
I've
had
to
mix
conversation
on
this.
Do
our
two?
Our
center
managers
usually
have
responsibility
for
two
buildings,
or
are
we
just
choosing
these
two
to
merge
because
of
I?
Guess
more
so
Chandler
not
having
a
great
you
know,
population
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
Mr.
mayor.
AA
Members
of
council,
modern
and
Fleming,
it
has
been
a
regular
practice
of
the
in
our
department
of
our
building
managers,
specifically
the
levy
manager,
to
be
responsible
for
multiple
facilities.
The
job
that
was
posted
in
that
the
current
manager
sits
in
the
job
posting
was
manager
of
levy,
Center
and
ecology
center.
AA
The
department
made
an
operational
decision
to,
as
the
person
was
new
to
the
community
and
new
to
the
job,
to
allow
them
to
focus
just
on
one
facility
at
the
time,
but
the
job
was
posted
as
the
manager
of
both
and
and
so
we
believe
that
we
could,
you
know
with
with.
We
could
run
the
facility
with
a
manager
very
very
effectively,
because
the
track
record
is
there
if
the
manager
was
responsible
for
more
than
one
facility.
So.
AA
The
amount
of
improvements
are
in
the
several
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
they
have
done
for
the
facility
over
the
years,
and
so
we
we
respect
and
we
are
proud
to
have
them
as
a
mate
as
a
partner,
but
that
when
you
look
at
our
numbers
and
the
attendance
you
know
we
are
doing
outreach
in
terms
of
trying
to
grow
our
senior
programming
at
the
levy
center.
We're
trying
to
get
your
what
will
be
considered
your
active,
which
started
at
age,
55
and
above
trying
to
draw
that
population
more
into
the
building.
AA
A
lot
of
your
individuals
who
are
55
are
still
working
and
active,
but
you
know
we're
trying
to
find
programs
that
they
can
come
into
before
work.
Excuse
me
or
after
work,
and
and
but
when
you
look
at
overall
attendance
and
numbers
and
the
size
of
the
operations,
we
felt
that
this
could
be
a
good
mix.
You
look
at
these
other
two
operations.
Specifically,
you
know.
Crown
has
an
ice
rink
that,
let's
open
till
1:00
a.m.
in
the
morning,
it's
open
at
6:00
a.m.
AA
A
A
AA
Ecology
Center
an
assistant
director
at
the
time,
so
we
we've
done
some
shuffling
yeah
within
the
department.
I
got
having
up
the
noise
Center
Gibbs
Morrison
those
buildings
also
are
buildings.
So
when
you
talk
about
shared
usage,
we
are
starting
to
look
at
the
fleet.
We
just
talked
about
Fleetwood
Fleetwood
when
it
comes
to
programmatic
I
mean
I'm.
Sorry
gives
a
Morrison
when
it
comes
to
programmatic
guidance
and
leadership.
It
is
going
through
Ken
cherry
who's.
AA
The
manager
of
the
fleetwood
facility
just
for
guidance
on
the
programmatic
piece,
make
sure
we
head
in
the
right
direction,
make
sure
we
got
divided
by
the
community.
Those
kind
of
things
the
noise
Center
doesn't
have
a
manager.
Its
report
to
the
assistant
director,
the
ecology
Center,
doesn't
have
a
manager,
its
reporting
to
an
assistant
director
I
mean
you
know.
Ultimately
we
just
don't
have
enough.
You
know
we
don't
have
enough
staff
and
our
budget
to
for
each
building
to
have
it,
but
not
each
building
needs
it.
C
And
and
I'm
thinking
the
way
to
do
that
is
not
to
fire
everybody
and
ask
them
to
come
back
in
the
way
to
do.
It
is
to
figure
out
who
are
the
right
people
to
be
managing
what
so,
it
would
make
sense
to
me
if
you
want
somebody
to
manage
two
places,
take
the
guy
at
Chandler
and
have
them
manage
the
ecology
Center
in
Chandler,
not
take
the
woman
who's
doing
a
magnificent
job
at
the
levy
Center,
regardless
that
she
was
told
to
manage
the
ecology
center,
which
is
down
these.
C
You
know
down
the
Cormack,
but
to
let
her
begin
to
generate
the
55
and
older,
as
as
the
levy
foundation
is
doing
with
this
fabulous
program.
They've
done
with
lectures
and
and
how
can
how
long's
she
been
there.
Nine
months
a
year
per
year,
yep
barely
a
year
I
mean
this.
This
makes
that
the
disruption
makes
no
sense.
You
know
and
and
I
think,
to
pit
these
centers
against
one
another
saying
that
fleet
with
Jourdain,
you
know,
has
more
programming
than
levy
Center
and
I
mean
that's
just
wrong.
C
These
are
all
centers
unto
themselves:
they're
all
fabulous
programming
unto
themselves.
Seniors
are
different
than
ice
skating,
rinks
and
then
then
basketball.
Then
then
you
know
music
and
sound
at
Gibbs
Morrison,
if
they're
all
different
and
they
all
require
different
specialties
and
different
kinds
of
supervision
and
and
the
Leavey
Center
requires
full-time
super
I,
don't
care
what
anybody
says
and
I'm
I
mean
you've
seen
some
of
the
secondary
service
people
there.
They
require
supervision.
So
I'm
really
concerned,
and
it's
seven
days
a
week
daytime
and
nighttime.
A
You
alderman
Rainey,
oh
okay,
all
right!
If
there's
no
further
discussion
on
the
levy
Center
is
there
any
other.
I
have
one
item
that
we
certainly
need
to
talk
about
with
the
city,
manager
and
council
if
we
were
to
take
things
off,
but
before
we
get
to
that,
are
there
any
other
items?
People
would
like
to
talk
about.
Peter.
Excuse
me,
Alderman
Braithwaite,
thank.
S
S
Is
that
something
that
can
be
phased
or
is
that
something
you're
gonna
be
looking
to
do
within
a
shorter
period
of
time
and
then,
secondly,
is
to
understand
Marty
the
relationship
between
the
project
that
they're
proposing
and
understand
the
numbers
of
the
debt?
That's
being
retired?
If
there's
a
nice
balance,
there.
S
X
My
intent
to
have
the
main
library
remain
open
during
construction.
There
will
be
parts
of
the
building
parts
of
the
floors
that
will
be
unavailable.
Of
course,
we
will
maintain
security
and
minimize
the
amount
of
disruption
because
of
construction.
Noise
and
debris
will
also
provide
weekly
updates
and,
in
the
event
that
a
patron
needs
access
to
a
part
of
the
collection
that
is
temporarily
unavailable.
Then
staff
can
carefully
in
coordination
with
the
construction
crew,
navigate
and
get
to
the
materials
and
retrieve
those
as
needed.
Thank.
D
AC
S
In
conjunction
with
I
know
that
they're
retiring
debt
and
they're
absorbing
debt,
so
my
I
want
to
get
a
better
working
knowledge
and
if
it
spelled
out
somewhere
in
the
budget,
memo
and
I
just
missed
that
you
can
direct
me.
There's
I
realized
that
they
are
retiring
debt
and
now,
assuming
that
and
I,
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
it's
netting
out
to
zero.
Or
is
it
going
to
be
above
that
that
that
was
being
tight,
I
guess
my
best
question
and.
AC
The
and
you
always
you
never
liked
it
when
your
finance
person
says
it
depends,
but
the
so
I
won't
say
that
I'll
say
the
original
library
debt
was
over
twenty
million
dollars.
There
was
refinanced
once
it's,
but
it's
it's
all
being
paid
down.
So
the
the
idea
is
how
much
of
that
library
debt
is
included
in
our
cap
on
unabated
debt,
which
is
a
hundred
and
thirteen
million.
Well
originally,
it
would
have
all
been
included
because
it
was
a
bond
that
was
paid
for
from
property
taxes.
AC
So,
as
its
paid
down,
you
haven't
seen
the
city's
unabated
debt
limit
decrease.
It's
been
slowly
assumed
by
all
of
our
other
capital
for
roadways
and
other
facilities,
so
we've
maintained
it
for
five
years
or
so.
We've
stayed
right
between
a
hundred
and
nine
million
and
a
hundred
and
eleven
million
on
that
debt,
but
part
of
the
way
we've
done.
That
is,
the
library
debts
been
getting
paid.
Bound
principle
on
that
is,
was
leaving
and
it
was
just
being
gobbled
up
by
debt
for
roadways,
debt
for
other
facilities,
etc.
AC
What
the
library
is
then
looking
at
is
a
maintenance
of
the
facility,
consider
it
if
we
had
done
crown
in
2002
as
a
maintenance.
What
would
that
have
looked
like
so
we're?
Replacing
crown
library
is
looking
to
extend
the
life
of
that
facility
decades
through
their
renovation
back
to
the
debt.
So
that
means
that
we're
at
11
million
our
limit
is
113
million.
AC
The
new
debt
would
come
in
at
about
10
million
dollars
for
the
library
project,
and
is
it
approximately
10
million
for
the
Crown
Center
and,
let's
just
say,
that's
over
the
next
three
years
the
council
doesn't
want
to
raise
the
debt
for
one
year
raise
the
debt
limit
for
one
year.
We
should
think
about
it
long
term,
so
that
takes
us
from
113
to
123
to
133
as
a
debt
limit.
AC
That's
what
we're
looking
at
and
then
we
also
have
12
million
dollars
in
regular
capital,
budgeted
in
this
budget
and
we'll
only
be
retiring
about
9
million.
So
we'll
add
another
three
million
dollars
of
unabated
debt.
So
the-
and
this
is
something
we
talked
about
the
other
night
when
we
did
capital
and
we
were
going
to
come
back
to
you
in
a
future
date,
but
within
the
next
two
to
three
months
to
say:
here's
our
long-term
debt
picture
for
the
purposes
of
the
budget
discussion.
AC
Please
know
that
the
way
that
it
works
is
the
capital
expenditure
in
one
year
does
not
hit
the
levy
until
the
next
year.
We
issue
the
bonds
and
then
the
debt
service
shows
up
a
year
later,
so
everything
we're
talking
about
for
crown
and
the
library
will
hit
the
the
levy
for
the
2018
levy
payable
in
19,
and
that's
that's
the
simple
version.
It
gets
more
complicated
when
you
get
into
all
of
our
other
debt
associated
with
crown
unabated.
AC
Z
I
just
have
some
housekeeping
types
of
questions
and
responses
to
mr.
basilica's
comments
on
the
animal
shelter.
Our
animal
shelter
does
a
fabulous
job,
I'm
a
foster
parent,
so
if
any
of
you
want
to
have
a
dog
or
a
cat
temporarily,
while
it's
waiting
for
adoption,
please
speak
up
because,
because
of
the
limited
facility,
the
dependence
on
foster
families
is
wonderful.
It
also
helps
to
socialize
animals
that
may
have
been
in
distress
and
make
them
even
more
adoptable
as
pets.
Z
So
we
need
to
do
something
else
and
unfortunately,
the
previous
volunteer
organization
that
was
there
left
with
the
funds
that
had
been
raised
to
improve
and
expand
the
shelter
so
I
do
not
see
any
lack
of
interest
in
people
to
support
and
fund
raise
for
the
shelter's.
So
I'm
very
happy
about
that.
I
think
we
can
raise
money
to
help
with
the
construction
of
a
new
building
and
but
about
specifically
about
the
$50,000
I
guess
I
would
leave
that
to
the
the
city
manager,
I
think
the
folks
that
are
over
there.
Z
They
know
what
they
need.
They
know
the
space
that
they
need
and
they
will
be
active
partners
in
determining
what
the
facility
should
be
like,
but
I
I
would
prefer
leaving
that
$50,000
in
there,
because
I
think
it's,
it's
probably
needed
to
have
a
consultant
work
with
them
and
figure
out
what
the
what
the
actual
physical
space
should
be.
Z
But
if
none
of
you
have
been
over
there
recently,
the
energy
and
the
enthusiasm
and
the
dedication
is
infectious.
I
have
as
I'm
now
fostering
a
special-needs
animal
I've
been
over
there
quite
a
bit,
and
there
are
always
people
waiting
to
volunteer
and
no
volunteer
is
ever
turned
away,
so
they
have
I
mean
from
you
can
do
the
most
menial
job
to
dog,
walking
to
lots
of
things
in
between,
but
it's
a
fabulous
place
and
something
that
Evanston
should
be
really
proud
of.
Z
T
On
the
one
point
George
before
me,
so
I
agree
that
we
should
leave
the
money
in
there,
although
I'm
I.
It
gives
me
great
pause
to
have
the
allocation
for
the
for
the
consultants,
because
I
feel
like
on
some
other
items,
we've
kind
of
gotten
burned
on.
You
know
we
spend
an
awful
lot
of
money
and
we
got
this
proposal,
for
you
know
like
ten
Ferraris
and
of
course
we
can't
have
ten
Ferraris.
So
my
inclination
would
be
just
to
your
point
I
think
they
have
pretty
a
good
idea
what
they
need.
Z
T
Z
C
S
It
starts
with
the
administrative
adjudication.
Remember,
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
some
time,
all
right,
okay
got
it.
So
what
I
was
looking
for
is-
and
maybe
it's
in
here
and
I'm,
just
having
a
difficult
time
reading
through
it
Marty
overall
I
was
trying
to
understand
like
what
are
the
fees
that
have
been
assigned
from
any
given
year,
and
it
looks
like
it's
broken
down
through
2014
and
is
the
looks
like
a
violation
about
in
the
paid
amount.
Will
that
give
me
an
understanding
of?
S
What's
been
fine
versus,
what's
been
owed
similar
to
how
you
know
the
approach
that
we
took,
what
the
parking
tickets,
it
was
very
clearly
laid
out.
Kind
of
these
have
been
the
fines
over
the
years.
This
is
what
the
outstanding
OHS
is.
I
was
trying
to
get
that
same
understanding
with
the
administrative
adjudication,
and
you
know
the
background.
S
So
that's
just
a
understand
what
that
universe
looks
like,
but
then,
as
we're
looking
to
move
cases
myself,
alderman
Wilson
else
also
Alban
Fleming
both
serve
on
the
alternatives
to
arrest
we're
going
to
be
directing
more
volume
to
administrative
adjudication,
and
we
just
want
to
I
one
of
the
questions
that
I
have
is
aid?
Does
a
system?
Is
it
ready
to
allow
and
then
hopefully
it
will
be
a
deterrent,
but
not
adding
additional
burdens
to
the
family.
So
it's
kind
of
like
a
three-part
question.
S
AC
AC
That
that
one
I
can
say
it
depends
based
on
the
type
of
fine.
So
if
I
have
a
property
related
debt,
then
it
it
can
be
a
receivable
that
would
stay
there
for
15
years.
If
it
was
a
lien
on
a
property,
it
could
stay
there
for
a
very
long
time
and
the
property's
been
leaned
and
we
don't
take
it
until
the
property
is
transferred.
AC
So
when
the
someone
comes
forward
for
the
transfer
tax
or
the
title
company
says,
you
have
to
clear
that
title
and
we
get
paid
so
that
can
happen
from
a
variety
of
things,
from
weeds
to
whatever
type
of
property
maintenance
violation.
So
we
will
definitely
have
some
receivables
out
there.
That
could
be
quite
old,
but
we
have
not
gone
the
additional
step.
Like
we've
talked
about
to
say
it's
not
good
enough
to
do.
A
lien
will
send
you
to
a
credit
bureau
as
well.
AC
S
I'm,
making
the
comparison
again
to
the
report
unit
with
the
parking
fines,
and
it
was
very
clearly
laid
out
what
was
owed
by
each
year
by
percentages.
I'm
just
curious
to
know
the
same.
Using
that
same
report
process
applying
that
to
our
administrative
adjudication
finds
so
to
understand.
By
line
Adam
and
again
the
overall
number
of
the
dollars
that
are
old
and.
AC
I
will
just
tell
you
we
will
respond
and
it
won't
be
quite
as
clear
cut
because
of
the
varied
nature
of
these
compliance
tickets.
They're,
not
all
parking
so
that
they
will
have
some
variability
of
Y.
Is
the
paid
versus
owed
different
and
we'll
explain
that
in
the
report?
Okay,
thank
you.
Mike
alderman.
C
C
1970
19,
it's
I've
been
up
here
when
there
was
one
case.
One
case
was
one
ticket
ingot,
so
in
2019
the
all
the
fine,
the
total
fines
levied
7,500,
the
total
paid
400
just
there's
something
wrong
here:
there's
something
I've
at
least
referred
honey
in
one
building,
100
violations.
This
there's
some
there's
something
wrong.
Here
you
go
down.
You
go
down
this,
the
only
one,
the
only
one
who's
paying
is
northwestern
police
I
mean
they
had
three
violations,
charges
were
$500
and
they
paid
home.
C
B
C
C
C
What
is
it
just
tell
us,
you
know,
stop
sign
what
I
mean.
We
don't
know
what
that
is.
There
is
later
a
listing
of
what
these
things
are
and
then
there's
a
listing
of
what
the
fines
are
for
child
safety
seat
with
the
with
the
code,
but
there's
no
page
where
child's
safety
seat
number
of
violations
and
the
fine.
Z
Okay,
I
remembered
some
things
and
I
wrote
them
down
this
time.
So
hopefully
this
will
be
the
last
time.
I
turn
my
light
on
I'm
concerned
about
the
historic
preservation
fees
about
the
increase
in
the
fees
that
were
asking
homeowners
to
pay
for
I'm,
assuming
building
permits
that
come
before
the
Preservation
Commission
in
local
historic
districts
is
that
is
that
correct.
Z
I
I
do
think
that
we
we
ask
people
to
recognize
the
importance
of
our
3/4
historic
districts
in
Evanston
and
as
well
as
outlying
landmarks,
and
we
ask
them
to
cooperate
and
make,
in
some
cases,
expensive
alterations
to
their
building
or
their
home
that
otherwise
they
might
not
have
to
do
and
I
think
increasing.
These
fees
to
them
is
not
a
good
idea.
Z
I
understand
where
it's
coming
from,
but
I
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea,
considering
the
fact
that
they
are
in
a
lot
of
cases
paying
more
for
to
do
a
quality
of
work
that
we're
asking
them
to
do
so.
That's
the
first
thing
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say
for
you
Johanna.
The
second
thing
is
that
I
want
to
advocate
for
the
impact
fees
that
would
be
put
on
private,
but
bus
services
that
are
operating
in
Evanston
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
them
and
it
would
be
very
helpful
to
have
them.
Z
It's
creating
a
really
unhealthy
and
a
disruptive
situation
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
recognize
that,
with
with
an
impact
fee,
I
say
that
I
am
I
am
concerned
about
staff
reductions,
I'm
concerned
about
the
morale
of
our
staff.
I
I
I
support
not
filling
positions
that
are
currently
vacant,
but
eliminating
some
of
our
staff
is
is
difficult
for
me.
We
ask
a
lot
of
our
staff.
I've
said
this
before
previous
budget
hearings,
but
we
we
ask
a
lot
of
them.
This
is
not
an
easy
place
to
work.
Z
There
is
a
a
high
level
of
customer
service
that
we
ask
our
staff
to
provide
not
only
to
our
citizens
but
also
to
the
council.
I,
don't
know
what
I
would
do
without
staff
I'm.
Just
so
thankful
for
the
positive
response
and
the
enthusiasm
that
we
get
I
am
concerned
about
it
and
I
want
you
Wally
to
know.
I
know
I've
shared
that
with
you
before
I
I
want
to
look
at
our
budget
going
forward,
and
we
don't
have
to
do
that
now
with
a
budget
memo.
Z
I
want
to
I
want
to
start
that
discussion,
I
I.
It
would
be
helpful
for
me
to
know
exactly
what
in
our
budget
is
dictated
to
us
by
law,
what
we
could
not
possibly
ever
cut
and
what
isn't
where
we
have,
where
we
have
options
and
not
for
this
year,
but
for
coming
years,
because
I
think
trying
to
anticipate
and
use
building,
permit
fees
and
balancing
our
budget
based
on
a
news.
Building
fees
is
not
a
good
thing.
S
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
just
on
the
topic
of
the
reoccurring
revenue
changes,
I've
received
more
emails,
I'm
sure
other
members
of
council
have
regarding
the
ground
transportation
tax
on
the
rideshare
and
I,
just
I'm
kind
of
interested
to
hear
others
comments
on
that.
Just
to
let
the
public
in
those
that
have
emailed
us
a
gazillion
times
kind
of
what
we're
thinking
in
terms
of
that
and
then
the
second
thing
is
the
budget
memo
on
page
22
so
similar
to
Alvin
fists,
we're
looking
at
doing
a
four
percent
reduction
in
our
seasonal
employees.
S
I
would
love
to
know
Wally
the
demographics
of
those
members.
How
many
folks
are
impacted
by
that
impact
and
looking
at
thoughtful
ways
that
for
the
folks
that
we
will
hire
to
place
some
type
of
appropriate
residential
requirement
on
that,
meaning
that,
if
we're
going
to
go
seasonal,
if
there's
going
to
be
a
reduction,
I
think
there
should
be
a
priority
to
those
that
are
residents
of
Evanston,
first
or
strong
Evanston
connections.
Y
Y
This
is
somebody
who
is
going
to
have
to
have
several
different
expertise,
areas
and
know
our
you
know.
Our
tree
canopy
has
won
us.
The
award
for
Tree,
City,
USA
I
think
for
at
least
30
years
in
a
row,
and
we
are
one
of
the
few
communities
in
the
United
States
that
still
has
Elms,
and
so
much
of
that
is
because
of
our
fantastic
forestry
department
and
engaging
with
our
community
on
so
many
issues.
So
I
am
very
skeptical
about
this.
Y
That
merger
and
you
know
the
concomitant
elimination
of
positions
and
the
fact
that
we
will
lose
some
of
our
really
skilled
forestry
staff
and
the
focus
on
maintaining
our
green
environment
is
going
to
get
diluted.
So
I'd
like
to
hear
a
lot
more
about
that
I
realize
where
we
are
with
the
time,
but
I
definitely
want
to
have
a
discussion
about
that
at
our
next
budget.
Discussion
meeting,
because
I
think
that
that
might
be
one
of
those
penny
wise
pound
foolish
choices
that
we
might
be
making
I,
don't
think
we're
making
very
many
of
those.
B
Manager,
yeah
and
mr.
mayor
Arvind,
when
I
think
one
of
the
challenges
here
is
that
there
are
two
separate
jobs.
There's
the
job
of
managing
the
field,
staff
that
provide
the
services
and
the
Environmental
Services
Bureau
deals
with
forestry
deals
with
greenways
deals
with
refuse
and
recycling.
We
need
a
manager.
Do
that.
The
other
issues
that
that
the
current
manager
has
been
dealing
with
really
are
not
a
central
part
of
the
job.
Yet
he
spends
a
lot
of
time
doing
that
we
really
need
a
manager
to
manage
the
field
services,
so
mr.
B
stone,
Beck
and
I
have
I
saw
him
come
in
there
there
he
is.
We
have
talked
about
the
need
for
having
a
staff
member
to
continue
to
work
with
community
members
on
tree
issues
exclusively
tree
advocacy
issues.
I,
don't
know
that
it
needs
to
be
a
bureau
manager
position
to
do
that.
So
we
would
like
to
come
back
to
you
with
a
plan
that
would
continue
to
have
the
two
bureaus
merge,
but
to
have
a
staff
member
that
would
do
tree
advocacy
in
addition
to
a
full
Forestry
Division,
which
currently
exists.
B
C
C
It's
I
think
the
city
could
just
run
with
them.
I
mean
that
if
they
do
such
an
amazing
job
and
are
so
supportive
and
attentive
to
Alderman's
needs
into
citizen
needs,
but
I
want
to
talk
about
rideshare
tax.
For
one
moment,
the
the
twenty
cent
rideshare
tax,
the
city
of
Evanston,
wants
to
impose
will
generate
a
hundred
thousand
plus
baby
up
to
I
am
extremely
supportive
of
it.
C
I
am
extremely
supportive
of
rideshare
and
I
want
to
say
to
those
rideshare
drivers
that
I
am
the
person
who
fought
for
rideshare
not
to
be
regulated
by
the
city
of
Evanston.
The
knee-jerk
reaction
of
our
community,
like
most
communities,
was
oh,
we
have
rideshare.
Oh,
let's
put
some
regulations
on
them
like
we
do
taxi
cabs.
Instead,
what
the
city
of
Evanston
did
through
I
believe
my
leadership
was.
We
took
away
a
lot
of
the
regulations
from
the
taxi
cab.
AB
C
Was
very
adamant
about
this.
The
the
taxi
cabs
complained
to
us.
We
we
wrote,
we
lifted
them
up
to
be
equal
to
the
right.
I
mean
why
not
lift
them
up
to
innovation
as
opposed
to
dragging
down,
and
those
are
my
very
words
dragging
them
down
to
where
the
camps
were
so.
The
20
cents
is
going
to
be
imposed.
I
hope.
My
colleagues
will
support
this,
because
it's
going
to
do
a
lot
of
good
for
the
city
of
Evanston.
We
have
people
who
need
help.
We
have
police
to
pay,
we
have
pensions
to
pay,
etc.
C
It's
going
to
do
a
lot
of
good.
The
argument
is
being
made
about
the
$0.20
rights
share.
Tax
is
the
same
argument
that
a
lot
of
our
tax
payers
in
the
city
of
Evanston
make
when
we
raise
our
property
tax
by
a
miniscule
amount.
They
look
at
their
tax
bill.
It's
gone
up,
40%
well,
but
the
city
of
Evanston
tax,
lying
on
your
tax
bill
is
about
15%.
Now
of
your
total
tax
bill.
It's
not
us.
Look
at
your
look
at
your
rideshare
bill.
It's
50,
plus
52
cents
from
Chicago
is
something
from
O'hare.
C
It's
here:
it's
there
we're
asking
20
cents,
I
use
uber.
All
the
time
spent
over
40
bucks.
Last
week
on
uber
I
have
a
brand
new
car
I
still
use
uber
I'm
gonna
keep
using
uber,
even
though
I'm
gonna
pay
an
extra
20
cents,
so
just
relax
uber
drivers,
I've
had
some
people
say.
If
you
put
20
cents
I'm
an
uber
fare
I'm
gonna
quit
my
job.
Well,
quit
it
you,
you
need
to
go,
get
other
work
because
20
cents
is
not
going
to
cause
them
to
lose
a
writer.
It's
not
Thank.
Z
I,
just
I
I
just
wanted
the
city
manager
to
clarify
that
and
thank
you
for
the
comments.
We've
all
been
getting
tons
of
email
from
rideshare
of
people
objecting
to
this,
and
when
I
responded
to
the
people
in
my
ward,
it
became
really
clear
that
they
were
responding
to
an
email
blast,
email
that
had
gone
out
out,
I
believe
from
uber
just
leaving,
leaving
it
open
that
we
were
going
to
raise
taxes
on
each
ride
and
not
saying
how
much
and
when
I
wrote
back
and
I
said
it's
20
cents
and
I
said.
Z
A
B
U
Sorry
I'll
be
very
quick:
I
support
the
B&B
tax
very
much
I
support
the
impact
fee
for
the
buses,
also
the
20
cents
for
lyft
or
uber
or
whatever.
It
is
because
it's
still
cheaper
than
when
I
get
into
a
taxi,
which
is
very
rare,
and
it
starts
off
at
a
dollar
50
or
whatever.
It
starts
off
me
just
opening
the
door.
U
The
two
other
things
that
director
Thomas,
if
you
could
based
on
you'd,
have
to
come
up,
but
just
based
on
what
you
told
us
today,
if
it's
possible
for
you
to
maybe
update
these
job
descriptions
that
I
think
we're
in
the
memo
or
came
out
somewhere
I
think
they
lack
a
little
bit
of
what
you
talked
about
to
make
that
keep
that
connection
in
the
police
department
and
things
like
that.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
as
people
are
wrapping
their
minds
around
where
we
might
go
with
that
change.
U
Also,
I
want
to
talk
about.
I
want
to
bring
up
crater
to
career.
We
don't
have
to
have
a
long
conversation.
There's
a
budget
memo
I
think
on
page
70,
so
I
watch
City
Council
last
year,
and
the
creator
of
the
career
conversation
came
up
about
reducing
the
city's
contribution
to
that
and
I
know.
There
was
a
lot
of
conversation
in
autumn.
A
rainy
offered
some
money
out
of
her
district
and
being
one
that's
very
supportive
of
equity
work.
U
I
think
my
proposal,
my
request
that
we
consider
is
that
we
think
about
reducing
our
payment
to
create
a
career,
not
because
it's
not
a
great
program
but
because
we've
also
made
since
that
time
last
year
an
investment
and
dr.
Ephraim
to
look
at
equity
work
in
the
city
and,
while
I
think
created
a
career,
has
a
great
place
within
the
city
as
I'm
thinking
about
us,
cutting
staff
and
us
cutting
other
services
that
might
be
impactful
that
maybe
only
the
city
provides
particularly
like
the
victim
services
and
things
I.
U
Think
looking
at
scaling
back
our
financial
contribution
to
created
a
career
might
make
sense.
At
this
time
also
I
know
created,
a
career
has
been
doing
a
lot
of
great
work.
They
have
other
partners,
I
think
they
just
somehow
know
they
received
or
have
a
partnership
with
United
Way,
where
they're
offering
grant
money
to
some
of
their
agencies,
and
so
they
are
in
a
different
place
than
they
were
last
year
and
I.
U
Think
at
some
point
my
assumption
would
be
we're
going
to
make
a
little
more
of
an
exit
plan
financially
from
there,
because
maybe
there'll
be
a
little
more
self-sustaining
and
I
said
where
now
I
believe
we're
at
$50,000
investment
yearly
I
would
propose
25.
It
was
proposed
last
year,
but
that's
not
set
in
stone,
but
I
do
think.
We
want
to
revisit
that
because
we
are
making
our
own
financial
commitment
and
Patti
frame
and
training
and
things
that
we'll
do
here
at
the
city
and
greater
career.
U
She
said
another
place
now,
so
that's
my
one
thing.
My
second
thing,
I
think
I've
talked
to
all
of
you
all
about
this
and
there's
also
a
budget
memo
about
getting
some
middle
school
programming
in
South.
Evanston
I
am
proud
to
say
that
I'm
having
a
conversation
with
the
folks
over
at
Ridgeville,
they
are
a
taxing
base.
They
bring
in
about
$600,000
a
year
from
folks
in
the
Richfield
district
and
I
have
been
asking
them
to
I
have
to
talk
to
them
about
considering
and
hoping
ups
and
middle
school
programming.
U
The
issue
in
South
Evanston
is
that
I
know
this
from
my
own
kids,
the
closest
place
that
our
kids
in
South
Evanston
can
go,
who
are
not
enrolled
in
y-o-u,
which
is
at
capacity
at
shoot
school.
Now,
as
meta
Media
and
last
year,
meta
media
was
frequently
at
capacity
by
time.
Kids
from
South
Evanston
walked
her
bus
down
there
and
then,
after
that,
they
could
go
to
flee.
Twitter
Chandler,
which
are
not
particularly
close.
U
They
can't
go
to
robber
crown
because
of
where
the
gym
sits
in
proximity
to
the
preschool,
and
so
the
kids
in
South
Evanston,
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
afterschool
options
and,
as
we
saw
from
the
summer
with
our
police,
we
have
a
lot
of
kids,
downtown
and
I.
Think
it's
just
a
little
bit
unfair
that
South
Evanston
kids
at
this
point
don't
have
a
place
just
because
of
where
they
live
and
where
our
community
centers
are
so.
U
It's
us
thinking
of
moving
to
a
four
day
work
with
in
the
city,
building
and
I,
don't
say
that
lightly
I
understand
people
are
dependent
on
their
jobs,
but
that
might
provide
and
the
long
run
a
little
more
job.
Security
of
people
kind
of
as
a
whole
in
the
city
building
and
think
about
taking
a
couple
hours
off
their
workweek,
as
opposed
to
maybe
us
getting
mid-year
this
year
or
even
next
year.
Looking
at
more
staff
layoffs,
I
think
that
it
is
my
opinion
that
staff
morale
might
be
a
little
better
in
the
long
run.
U
If
people
can
say
hey,
I'm
going
to
lose
a
Friday
and
a
couple
hours
versus
I
might
lose
my
position
all
together,
depending
on
where
we
fought
with
our
budget
each
year.
So
that's
a
budget
memo
for
you
to
think
about.
I
will
also
send
out
some
more
information.
I've
been
investigating
other
municipalities
that
have
moved
to
this
model
and
in
the
budget.
It
does
excuse
me
in
the
memo
it
does
lay
out
that
this
will
not
affect
our
rec
center
is
obviously
our
police
and
fire
and
stuff.
U
It's
really
just
this
building
and
I'm
here,
quite
a
bit
and
I
know
people
do
take
Friday's
off,
particularly
in
the
summer,
which
is
great
for
them
to
have
some
time
with
their
family,
but
I
think
it
might
just.
This
might
be
something
we
want
to
kind
of
think
about
in
holding
our
back
pocket
particularly
comes
next
year.
We
have
three
furlough
days
coming
up,
I,
don't
know
where
those
fall
and
the
school
week
and
all
of
that,
and
so
we
might
find
that
there
are
families
that
that
really
impacts.
T
You
I
had
one
thing,
but
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
to
the
cradle
career
funding.
I
I
hesitate
to
to
step
back
from
that
commitment,
particular
in
light
of
the
fact
that
I
think
that,
as
we
continue
to
evolve
our
services
we're
relying
a
lot
more
heavily
on
arc
munity
partners.
We
heard
from
the
YW
this
afternoon
this
morning
rather,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
other
partnerships,
I,
think
that
we're
trying
to
take
more
advantage
of
and
I
think
it's
important
to
demonstrate
that
commitment.
T
Judges
by
I
asked
him
to
do
what
the
work,
but
also
to
make
sure
that
we're
supporting
it
financially.
The
last
thing
I
wanted
to
touch
on
it.
Basically,
the
daycare
on
the
10th
I've
heard
from
a
few
people
who
came
up
at
our
Peters
in
my
ward
meeting
when
we
chose
that
day.
In
my
mind,
I
was
thinking.
Okay,
this
is
a
holiday
I
thought
that
would
kind
of
mitigate
a
lot
of
these
potential
problems,
but
I
think
you
know.
The
childcare
in
the
after-school
care
is
a
very
significant
problem.
T
That's
kind
of
falling
heavily
on
certain
numbers
of
the
community
and
I'd
like
to,
if
there's
any
way
to
to
revisit
that
aspect
of
the
furlough,
if
we
could
look
at,
you
know
maintaining
at
least
that
service
for
those
families
I
think
that
would
be
of
great
value
to
them.
On
that
day,
I've
heard
from
people
that
you
know
it's
not
enough
notice
to
take
off
work.
They
can't
figure
out
how
they're
going
to
manage
it.
So
just
it's
resulting
in
a
lot
of
you
know
significant
problems
for
a
number
of
people.
B
B
If
I
just
have
some
questions,
so
do
you
feel
that
you've
raised
some
of
the
larger
issues,
the
the
police,
social
services,
the
staff
reduction,
the
combinations
that
levy
Chandler,
the
issues
regarding
forestry,
the
the
bed
and
breakfast?
You
know
if
those
are
the
main
issues
that
you
have.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
work
with
the
staff
team
and
make
some
adjustments
and
come
back
to
you
at
your
next
meeting.
Are
there
other
larger
issues
that
you
feel
you
haven't
commented
on
at
this
point?
B
Okay,
so
we'll
continue
to
work
on
that
we
had
planned
all
of
the
mondays
in
November
for
discussion
next
month,
the
Monday,
the
six,
the
first
Monday
November,
is
a
Human
Services
Committee
meeting.
Do
you
feel
you
need
to
meet
prior
to
that
to
discuss
the
budget?
My
sense
is
that
you're
in
pretty
good
shape,
if
based
on
the
your
direction
right
now,
so
my
recommendation
would
be
to
not
meet
on
the
sixth,
then
on
the
13th
is
a
regular,
City
Council
meeting.
We
would
put
this
as
an
agenda
item.
B
Try
to
keep
the
other
items
as
as
small
as
possible.
I
think
the
albion
would
be
back
for
final
actions,
so
that
obviously
will
take
a
little
time,
but
then
on
the
20th
of
november.
Would
this
would
be
a
single
item
and
so
again,
based
on
your
discussion
this
morning?
If
there's
nothing
else,
major,
that's
weighing
on
your
minds,
we
should
be
able
to
I.
Think
then
wrap
it
up
on
the
20th.
Does
that
make
sense
to
everyone?
It
does
okay.