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A
Good
evening,
better
late
than
never
the
february
28
2022
meeting
of
the
evanston
city
council
shall
come
to
order.
Would
the
clerk
please
call
the
roll.
C
D
A
With
eight
members
present,
we
have
a
quorum
and
are
prepared
to
do
our
work.
We
begin
with
my
announcements
and
proclamations.
I
have
no
proclamations,
but
I
have
three
announcements
that
I'll
try
to
keep
brief.
A
The
first
is
that,
as
doubtless
many
know
on
friday
morning,
the
city
released
the
outcome
of
the
investigation
related
to
horrifying
misconduct,
and
that
recommendation,
I
think,
is
eye-opening.
It's
enormously
troubling
it's
sobering,
and
it
includes
really
really
critical
recommendations.
This
council
and
the
staff
leadership
of
the
city
are
united
in
our
commitment
to
enact
those
recommendations
and
to
make
our
city
the
safe
and
welcoming
and
inclusive
place
for
all
staff,
all
residents
and
all
visitors.
That
is,
the
obligation,
that's
aligned
with
our
values
and
our
priests
and
commitments.
A
So
surely
a
great
deal
more
discussion
to
come
on
that
topic,
but
I
didn't
want
to
allow
the
release
of
that
report
to
go
unmentioned
here
at
this
council.
There
will
be
a
lot
a
lot
of
work
forthcoming.
A
A
What's
going
on
in
chicago
county
in
the
state
of
illinois,
there's
been
a
frankly
a
very
confusing
situation
with
our
school
districts
through
no
fault
of
their
own
because
of
some
inconsistent
court
rulings
and
some
back
and
forth
at
the
state
level,
the
school
districts
have
been
put
in
a
possible
position
frankly,
but
are
there
in
the
process
of
in
keeping
with
the
developments
on
the
state
level,
removing
the
mass
mandates
there
as
well
I'll
just
say
that
we
have,
I
think,
done
an
extraordinary
job
as
a
community
by
coming
together
and
agreeing
to
support
one
another
and
protect
one
another
and
people
are,
I
think,
in
a
tense
spot
right
now.
A
A
I
would
just
ask
that
we
all
do
our
best
to
respect
one
another's
choices
and
stick
together
as
much
as
possible,
because
this
pandemic
is
not
over
and
continued
unity
and
continued
support
of
one
another
and
continued
efforts
to
keep
one
another
safe
for
what
will
allow
us
to
continue
to
protect
people
in
evanston.
So
thank
you
to
the
community
for
that.
A
And
finally,
you
know
the
last
thing
that
the
world
needs
right
now
is
a
small
town
mayor
opining
on
global
global
geopolitical
circumstances,
but
I
think
it's
appropriate
in
light
of
what's
occurring
right
now
in
ukraine,
which
has
frankly
horrified
so
many
of
us
to
note
that
it
appears
to
be
the
case
that
in
1988
evanston
entered
into
a
sister
city
arrangement
with
the
nebrowski
district,
which
is
a
district
internal
to
kiev,
and
so
as
the
nation
of
ukraine
and
the
city
of
kiev
and
the
nipolovsky
district
are
undergoing
this
horrifying
situation.
A
Because
of
completely
unprovoked
aggression
by
a
global
military
power.
Something
that's.
A
Hasn't
seen
for
quite
some
time,
it's
important
for
us
to
acknowledge
that
our
our
thoughts
are
with
them.
We
stand
with
them
in
solidarity,
and
we
stand
ready
as
a
community
to
look
for
ways
to
be
directly
supportive
and
helpful
and
we'll
we'll
be
sharing
any
information
that
comes
in
in
that
regard
with
the
community
moving
forward
as
well.
I
know
this.
This
situation
is
very.
F
A
Very
alarming
and
very
much
on
the
minds
of
folks
across
across
this
community,
as
it
is
across
the
world
councilmember
reed
on
the
subject.
D
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
also
again
if,
if
we
don't
need
a
small
town
mayor,
we
certainly
don't
need
a
small
town
council
member,
but
I
do
as
we're
going
into
a
holiday
we're
not
going
to
have
a
meeting
on
next
monday,
but
next
monday
is
casimir
pulaski
day,
and
I
want
to
just
briefly
tell
us
a
little
bit
for
those
who
aren't
familiar.
This
is
a
holiday,
that's
celebrated!
D
In
illinois.
It's
not
celebrated
all
across
america
and
kasamir
pulaski
was
an
eastern
european
man
from
poland
in
lithuania,
who
was
fighting
against
the
russian
empire
back
in
the
1700s
and
kashmir.
Pulaski
came
to
america
after
losing
the
war
against
russia
and
having
poland
and
other
countries
fall
under
the
russian
control
came
to
america
and
exile
first
went
to
france
met.
Benjamin
franklin
came
to
america
connected
with
george
washington
is
credited
with
saving
george
washington's
life
and
potentially
changing
the
tide
of
the
american
battle
at
the
american
revolution.
D
At
the
battle
of
brandywine
and
kasamir
pulaski,
one
of
the
famous
quotes
that
they
have
is.
I
came
here
where
freedom
is
being
defended
to
serve
it
and
die
for
it
and
kasamir
pulaski.
D
A
eastern
european
person,
came
to
america,
made
a
huge
difference
here
and
died
in
the
american
revolutionary
war
to
serve
the
free
cause
of
freedom
and-
and
I
want
us
as
illinoisians
as
evanstonians
as
folks
who
recognize
this
person
to
to
to
live
up
to
that,
to
to
live
up
to
that
call
to
defend
freedom
wherever
it
is,
and
to
do
what
we
can,
even
as
a
small
city,
to
stand
up
for
the
people
of
ukraine
and
stand
up
for
the
people
of
the
world.
D
D
And
lastly,
I
want
to
note
just
a
bit
of
intersectionality
here,
which
just
also
want
to
know
that
there
have
been
recent
studies,
analysis
that
shows
that
kasamir
pulaski
was
likely
either
a
woman
or
intersex.
D
So
we
had
someone
who
was
either
a
woman
or
intersex
from
eastern
european
from
eastern
europe
come
here
and
give
their
life
for
our
country
in
the
american
revolution.
So
let's
live
up
to
those
values.
Thank
you.
A
That
concludes
my
announcements.
Now
for
the
city
managers,
announcements.
I
want
to
turn
the
mic
over
to
acting
city
manager,
luke
stowe.
G
Good
evening,
mayor
best
council
members,
clerk
mendoza,
just
one
quick
announcement,
a
city
manager's
office,
is
pleased
to
share
the
news
today
that
the
city
manager
has
interim
city
manager,
has
appointed
audrey
thompson
as
the
new
interim
director
for
parks
and
rec,
and
we
look
forward
to
miss
thompson,
leading
the
parks
and
rec
on
a
new
course.
Thank
you,
mayor.
B
I
have
no
email
public
comment,
but
I
did
want
to
take
a
moment
to
say
hi
how
thankful
I
am
of
today.
Just
for
the
first
time
I'm
gonna
be
able
to
sit
up
here.
A
H
Thank
you,
mayor
city,
clerk
and
city
council,
dan
coyne,
ninth
ward,
and
I
just
want
to
affirm
the
process
our
mayor
went
through
in
appointing
our
ninth
ward
alder
person.
I
am
just
so
proud
of
senor
juan
who's,
known
as
senior
juan
in
the
halls
of
oakton
school,
where
I
work
and
where
his
children
are
taught
and
where
he
leads
us
as
a
community
pta
leader.
F
A
All
right,
if
she's
able
to
come
back
or
log
in
we'll
call
come
back
to
her
later.
This
brings
us
to
those
who
signed
up
to
speak
online,
beginning
with
wendy
pollock,
sorry,
beginning
with
wendy
pollock,
who
will
be
followed
by
jerry
garl
and
then
kathy
hayes.
J
Thank
you,
I'm
wendy
pollock,
I'm
co-chair
of
the
environment
board.
I
wanted
to
make
a
brief
comment
about
item
sp1
how
the
opera
funds
will
be
invested.
J
J
So
major
emis
emission
cuts
have
to
happen
this
decade.
They
have
to
happen,
but
we're
going
in
the
opposite
direction.
J
Unfortunately,
so
we
appreciate
that
in
the
staff
memo
that
you've
got
before
you
tonight,
one
of
the
six
suggested
priorities
for
investing
arpa
funds
is
what's
referred
to
in
the
memo
as
climate
action
resiliency,
and
we
wholeheartedly
endorse
plans
for
energy,
retrofits
and
affordable
housing,
which
are
one
of
the
projects
mentioned
we're
gratified
to
see
movement
on
replacement
of
lead
service
pipes,
and
we
note
the
recommendation
on
page
12
that
carp
goals
be
used
as
selection
criteria
for
other
projects.
J
While
the
memo
says
that
carp
affects
all
aspects
of
decision
making,
though,
aside
from
those
projects
I
mentioned,
there's
little
evidence.
This
has
been
the
case
so
far.
For
example,
in
what
way
does
equipment
replacement
mentioned
on
page
14
contribute
to
cutting
emissions?
In
what
ways
does
support
for
local
businesses
contribute
to
maintaining
and
expanding
the
tree
canopy?
We
need
to
mitigate
urban
heat
island
effect,
so
if
there
are
contributions
to
reductions
in
resilience,
I
think
these
should
be
made
explicit
and
measurable.
J
The
overall
message,
as
the
final
sentence
of
the
ipcc
report
reads,
is
any
further
delay
in
concerted
global
action
will
miss
a
brief
and
rapidly
closing
window
to
secure
a
livable
future.
So,
let's
make
sure
we
really
press
forward
in
using
these
arc
of
funds
wisely
to
invest
in
climate
action.
Thank
you.
K
First,
the
arpa
plan
update
under
discussion
makes
no
specific
reference
to
the
five
proposals
submitted
to
city
leadership
in
on
november
18th
of
last
year
by
the
environment
board,
and
the
process
for
considering
such
proposals
for
arpa
funding
is
still
unclear.
K
This
will
directly
support
priority
setting
for
arpa
projects.
The
arpa
plan
states
that
funds
should
be
used
to
assist
those
negatively
impacted
by
covid19
and
reflect
the
city's
commitments
for
improved
public
health
outcomes,
racial
equity,
reimagine,
public
safety
and
sustainability
and
you'll
recall
in
back
in
2019.
K
When
the
city
council
set
out
its
goals,
one
was
to
ensure
equity
in
all
city
operations.
Those
are
good
aspirational
principles,
but
they're
really
not
very
well
defined.
What
do
we
all
really
mean
the
same
thing
when
we
say
we
want
to
achieve
racial
and
environmental
equity?
What
are
the
specific
problems
that
we
want
to
address?
A
K
The
proposal
by
eje
to
conduct
this
investigation,
along
with
completing
the
vulnerability
assessment
that
was
committed
to
under
the
carp,
would
be
an
invaluable
tool
for
the
city's
residents
in
prioritizing
and
tracking
tracking
equity
outcome.
I
hope
you
will
consider
all
five
of
these
proposals.
Thank
you.
A
L
Good
evening
and
thank
you,
mayor
biss,
as
well
as
the
council
for
giving
me
this
time,
I
am
coming
to
you
as
an
advocate
for
an
individual
who
came
to
me
this
weekend
and
asked
me
to
read
their
statements
regarding
the
recent
report
of
sexual
misconduct.
L
L
Over
two
years
over
the
past
two
years,
staff
has
been
targeted,
victimized
and
gaslighted
by
some
of
the
toxicity
and
covered
in
this
report
when
it
is
brought
when
it
was
brought
to
the
attention
of
officials.
Specifically
specific
people
face
direct
retaliation
from
leadership
as
a
constituent
taxpayer.
L
L
If
the
city
is
committed
to
change,
you
will
continue
to
uncover
the
root
causes
for
low
employee
morale
and
mass
employee
retirements
and
resignations.
The
city
and
empowered
leaders
are
fully
accountable
to
staff
residents
taxpayers
of
this
city.
Thank
you.
For
your
time
again,
this
was
submitted
to
me
and
I
agreed
to
read
it
for
the
individual
who
is
concerned
about
retaliation
regarding
her
remarks
or
their
remarks.
A
C
Thank
you
maribes,
and
I
I
hope
everybody
can
hear
me
and
hello.
It's
been
a
while
good
evening.
I
want
to
speak
about
sp2
tonight
lot,
one
down
in
the
third
ward.
Obviously
you
know
I
I'm
a
big
advocate
for
tackling
the
affordability
crisis
and
evanston.
Affordable
housing
is
a
big
part
of
that.
Obviously,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
the
support
just
inherently
of
rhetoric
towards
affordable
housing
like
it's
not
enough,
just
to
speak
to
it.
There
needs
to
be
something
behind
it
and
the
proposal
before
you
tonight
in
sp2.
C
I
don't
think
rises
to
that
demand.
You're
going
to
hear
folks
tonight,
I'm
sure
say:
hey
you
know,
60
of
or
I'm
sorry
it's
more
than
that
it's
it's
52
of
60
units
are
going
to
be
60
or
under
the
area
median
income,
and
that
sounds
wonderful
on
paper,
but
you
can
check
fannie
mae.
That
means
you're
talking
about
52
000
a
year.
C
Well,
the
average
evanston
income
is
about
60
percent
of
that.
So
this
isn't
an
affordable
housing
project
all
by
itself
right
there
off
the
bat,
not
to
mention
the
parking
situation,
you're
taking
away
a
lot.
That
is
near
and
dear
to
every
neighbor
of
that
lot,
anytime.
Somebody
says
well,
it's
under
used.
C
C
If
I
have
to
commute
by
there,
I
know
it's
going
to
be
just
like
a
a
more
tense
commute
than
if
not
that
that
area
is
not
somewhere
that
we
can
just
be
really
nearly
with,
and
on
top
of
that,
there's
no
assurance
in
any
of
this
proposal.
There
will
be
folks
displaced
by
this
there's
no
assurance
in
the
proposal
that
they're
going
to
be
taken.
Care
of
those
are
seniors.
C
Those
are
disabled,
folks,
those
are
third-party
residents
and
there
are
neighbors
and
there's
nothing
here
to
guarantee
their
safety,
and
on
top
of
that,
there's
a
very
real
possibility
that
this
rfp
should
have
never
gotten
this
far
as
of
the
rfp
and
I'm
sorry
to
just
be
reading
this
of
april
12
2021
right
after
the
election
15.
A
C
Of
c1a
that
that
means
no
green
space
whatsoever,
I'm
not
sure
that
agrees
with
park
and
I'm
I'm
running
out
of
time.
So
I'm
just
gonna
I'm
gonna
speed
up
here.
The
neighbors
in
this
area
are
adamant
that
nobody
has
contacted
them
whatsoever
that
no
information
about
beginning
from
the
lip
service
at
best
has
been
paid.
There
is
no
reason
whatsoever
to
fast
track.
This,
like
the
proposal,
indicates
you
ought
to
with
a
vote
yesterday.
C
F
A
M
E
M
So
one
of
them
was
severely
affected
by
coven.
Where
are
we
going
to
go?
What
and
we
talk
about
diversity?
Six
fam
african-american
families
are
going
to
be
displaced,
we're
a
neighborhood.
We've
talked
about
trees
today.
Well,
all
the
way
back
in
the
80s.
When
I
worked
for
the
city
as
doing
their
weatherization
programs
and
energy
programs
for
low-income
seniors,
we
had
a
forestry
department
came
out,
and
the
tree
in
my
backyard
then
was
the
second
largest
tree
of
its
type
in
the
city
of
evanston.
M
I
was
very
involved
as
a
child
with
the
ecology
center,
and
I
was
in
the
former
conservation
chair
for
chicago
audubon
and
the
great
lakes
chair
for
the
sierra
club,
both
the
chicago
the
chicago
level
and
the
state
level,
and
the
thought
of
having
no
green
space.
For
many
years.
M
M
M
M
A
A
N
N
I'm
sue
lolbach.
I
work
at
connections
for
the
homeless
and
I
just
want
to
congratulate
the
city
for
moving
forward
with
this
development
of
48
new
units
of
affordable
housing
in
a
60-unit
building
on
city-owned
land.
This
is
a
really
great
step.
N
N
Congratulations
as
well
for
the
range
of
proposals
that
you
received.
This
is
really
exciting.
It
shows
that
there's
an
appetite
among
developers
to
do
this
kind
of
work,
and
it
shows
that
it
is
possible.
We
can
create
affordable
housing.
N
N
We
urge
you
to
continue
to
cultivate
relationships
with
developers
who
will
consider
affordable
housing,
and
we
also
urge
you
to
do
an
affordable
housing
plan
that
not
only
includes
more
developments
like
this,
but
also
includes
subsidies
to
help
the
people
with
lower
incomes
that
nobody
is
building
housing
for.
Thank
you.
O
I
would
like
to
comment
on
the
last
speaker
about
affordable
housing,
I'm
for
affordable
housing.
I
work
with
several
affordable
housing
advocates
like
riva,
place,
development
and
affordable
housing
for
community
development.
O
Researched
or
has
an
impact
study
how
it
would
affect
the
community,
the
loss
of
green
space
and
the
loss
of
the
equity
and
property
that
would
it
would
surround
affects
us
all,
I'm
adjacent
to
the
property
of
south
boulevard.
I
sit
right
next
door
to
the
parking
lot
and
I
been
a
property
owner
here
since
1995..
O
O
That's
in
line
with
hindman
that
goes
north
to
the
to
the
city
parking
lot.
I
mean
to
the
city
north
of
hinman.
What
my
point
is
that
I
would
lose
equity
in
my
property.
O
O
I
think
that
the
transparency
from
the
impact
study,
the
height
of
five-story
buildings
adjacent
to
my
property,
is
only
two
stories
which
south
boulevard
is
mainly
two-story.
Dwellings
from
hinman
all
the
way
to
michigan
the
landscape
on
hinman
going
north
is.
A
O
E
O
A
Q
Right,
thank
you.
This
is
brian
dolez
olympia,
507,
south
boulevard.
I
live
directly
across
the
proposed
site
for
the
south
pole
light
project.
I
actually
represent
four
generations
of
estonians
all
living
residing
at
507
south
boulevard,
so
we
have
a
particular
invested
interest
in
in
the
southwest
park
project.
Q
Q
I
understand
this
point
is
likely
to
go
through,
but
you
know,
and
if
it
does
prove
we,
we
need
better
communication
about.
What's
going
on
with
the
project
the
process.
Q
When
the
city
council
approved
resolution
21
authorizing
the
rfps,
we
were
told
that
the
community
would
be
involved
in
the
rfp
process
and
we
would
have
opportunity
to
provide
input
on
the
rfps
to
the
best
of
my
understanding.
This
didn't
happen,
and
rather
a
special
evaluation
committee
was
formed,
made
of
three
city
staff
members
and
two
housing
authority
cook,
county
members
and
together
those
five
individuals
created
a
rubric
created.
Q
The
rfps
interviewed
the
top
four
proposals
near
the
selection
down
to
one
which
is
pr
hl,
which
I
believe
we're
the
council
is
voting
on
tonight
about
moving
forward.
Additionally,
according
to
an
addendum
from
a
pre-proposal
meeting
on
june
3rd
2021,
it
was
communicated
that
the
city
council,
member
of
evanson
third
ward,
will
request
a
community
meeting
with
the
finalists
prior
to
consideration
at
the
city
council
following
city
council
review
and
approval
from
hud,
the
city
and
ajac
will
initiate
negotiations
with
team
the
highest-ranked
proposal.
Q
So
it
seems
to
me
that
all
of
this
was
skipped
and
we
didn't
get
the
community
input
and
it
you
know
I.
I
am
aware
that
there
were
a
couple
of
occasions
I
think
two
or
three
meetings,
but
those
meetings
aren't
well
advertised
it's
hard
to
find
when
meetings
are
happening.
So
it's
hard
to
really
say
and
understand
where
we
are
in
this
process.
I'm
not
exactly
sure.
Q
And
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
being
impacted
by
this
decision
being
made
from
five
people
lots
of
questions.
So
I'm
objecting
a
plea
to
city
council
not
to
move
forward
and
deny
the
resolution
just
to
slow
things
down
and
to
get
more
community
input.
Thank
you.
A
R
Hi
I'm
leslie
shad
in
ward
3,
and
I
couldn't
figure
out
how
to
do
this
in
person.
So
sorry,
but
I
just
wanted
to
mention
sp2
and
going
for
an
rfp.
I
just
wanted
to
encourage
you
to
ask
the
successful
applicant
to
consult
with
bird
friendly,
evanston
or
think
about
habitat
as
well.
There
are
many
we're
losing
biodiversity,
and
a
lot
of
the
changes
in
building
design
are
have
almost
no
cost.
R
You
know
substituting
metal
railings
for
glass
mailing,
so
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
that
when
the
city
is
offering
rfp
or
funding
for
north
light
or
something
if
they
could
speak
with
us
and
northlight
is
talking
to
us,
but
anyway,
thank
you
for
all
you're
doing.
A
S
Hi
I'm
cecile
mchugh.
I
live
at
1920.
Oh
sorry,
I
lived
at
1926
orrington
within
a
thousand
feet
of
the
proposed
development
for
1732
to
1740
orington,
I'm
speaking
against
the
planned
development,
because
the
change
to
d3
zoning
is
not
appropriate
for
this
area.
The
building
height
is
out
of
scale
for
this
location
and
the
public
benefits
of
the
proposed
development
to
our
immediate
community
do
not
mitigate
the
impact
of
the
new
development
on
our
immediate
community.
S
D3
zoning
intended
to
provide
the
highest
density
of
business,
infill
development
and
large-scale
redevelopment
in
downtown
evanston
is
not
appropriate
here,
whereas
d2
zoning.
The
current
zoning
intended
to
support
traditional
downtown
shopping
in
evanston
is
appropriate
here
and
something
to
encourage
not
to
move
away
from.
This
building
will
tower
over
all
the
other
buildings
near
nearby,
accepting
the
orington
hotel
nowhere
near
as
tall
as
this
development
in
all
other
directions.
There
are
no
other
buildings
nearby
zone,
d3
nearby,
our
university
buildings,
a
few
stories
tall,
end
zones,
r6
or
d2.
S
Changing
zoning
to
d3
allows
the
height
to
go
from
42
feet
to
86
feet,
but
this
building
would
be
145
to
170
feet.
High
changing
from
d2
to
d3
zoning
allows
the
fire
to
go
from
2
plus
to
4.5,
but
the
developer
is
asking
for
a
fire
of
7..
This
is
alarming.
At
this
location,
there
is
no
justification
for
increasing,
rather
than
decreasing,
density
as
you
move
away
from
downtown
looking
on
page
47
of
the
packet,
at
least
that
was
a
page
number
on
the
p
d
packet.
S
This
building,
with
the
heightened
bulk
it
has,
is
positioned,
seemingly
with
no
space
to
speak
of
between
it
and
the
little
bex
building.
Next
to
it,
it
looks
ridiculous
and
it
would
detract
so
much
from
the
appearance
of
the
black
pedestrians,
such
as
myself,
enjoy
the
pedestrian
friendly
scale
at
this
lot
and
the
blocks
around
it
now
have
I'm
concerned
that
this
area
will
be
spoiled
by
this
monstrous
office.
S
S
The
public
benefits
of
the
planned
development
must
significantly
outweigh
the
negative
impact
of
the
development
on
the
surrounding
area,
as
the
packet
states
notes
that
many
of
the
public
benefits
do
not
constitute
as
public
benefits
to
the
surrounding
community.
I
paraphrase
that
I
will
finish
up
and
given
that
that,
aside
from
the
alley
improvements
which
what
residents
will
notice,
I
don't
see
public
benefits
to
the
surrounding
community,
which
means
there
is
no
justification
for
this
development.
I
this
is
an
important
point.
I'm
almost
done.
S
S
F
T
Yes,
this
is
in
line
with
leslie
shad
and
also
in
terms
of
tree
preservation,
which
I
I
apologize
for
missing.
The
p
d
meeting
got
the
tail
end
of
it.
So
it's
a
combination
and
you'll
see
why
and
it
includes
ask
requesting
for
our
carp
funds,
so
we
need
more
safeguards.
When
I
look
at
the
tree
preservation,
we
need
more
safeguards
to
prevent
the
loss
of
200
year
old
white
swamp
folks,
when
a
single
director
or
misinformed
resident
can
determine
removal
without
preservation
as
planning
an
intervention.
T
Lastly,
new
impermeable
surfaces,
that
includes
adus
or
new
structures-
and
that
includes
the
structure
we're
talking
about,
must
be
engineered
to
prevent
or
remedy
harm
to
trees
and
drainage.
And
may
I
include
what
calvin
klein
said
about
sunlight.
There's,
no
reason
why
someone
who
had
sunlight
before
shouldn't
have
sunlight
and
the
sunlight
that
you
would
provide
would
probably
be
going
with
regard
to
the
landscaping
which
was
mentioned
as
well
in
terms
of
aquafunds.
T
They
can
help
with
carp
and
homeowners
to
prevent
harm
ships
by
preserving
archery
engineering
structures
to
improve
drainage.
So
just
because
you
build
a
structure
doesn't
mean
you
can't
engineer.
I
had
a
neighbor
who
did
that
when
he
developed
when
he
did
his
large
home
and
he
engineered
the
drainage
to
go
underneath
the
house
etc.
It
can
be
done,
it
does
plants
help,
but
that
drainage
and
serious
situations
with
large
buildings
is
really
imperative
and
it
and
the
technology
is
there.
T
A
U
All
right
good
evening,
honorable
everybody,
I'm
ellie
harned
from
the
second
ward,
and
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
a
few
items.
I
don't
have
a
lot
prepared,
but
I
wanted
to
say
a
few
things.
First,
I
read
the
sobering
and
shocking
report
that
was
released
last
week
about
the
lakefront
issue
and
the
issues
in
the
parks,
parks
and
recreation,
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
brave
young
women
who
brought
the
petition
forward
and
to
everyone
who
courageously
participated
in
the
investigation
that
brought
these
issues
to
light.
U
U
Much
less
critical,
but
so
important
just
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
highlight
the
power
of
a
people's
petition
and
that
the
city
council
still
has
a
window
of
opportunity
to
take
up
the
progressive
opportunity
to
put
an
instant
voter
initiative
on
the
ballot.
Imagine
the
power
of
petition
if
evi
had
passed
in
march
of
2020
that
there
would
not
have
been
a
possibility
of
ignoring
a
petition
or
passing
it
off
as
just
one
of
the
many
positions
that
get
passed
around.
As
our
previous
mayor
stated.
U
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
say
is
regarding
the
housing
development
on
south
boulevard.
I
echo
the
previous
speakers
who
highlighted
the
importance
of
affordable
housing
that
that's
absolutely
a
need
that
needs
to
be
met.
I
didn't
have
a
lot
of
time
to
review
the
packet,
but
I
did
see
that
it
was
a
really
close
race
between
hacc
and
reba
place,
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
in
general,
always
always
always
local
is
better.
U
Buy
local
right,
so
reba
place
is
an
excellent
local
housing
organization,
and
I
can
say
my
experience
with
families
that
are
in
our
schools.
Rival
place
has
been
really
really
good
to
our
families
and
hacc
is
a
very
large
organization.
I'd
like
to
see
the
housing
authority
of
the
city
of
evanston
come
into
existence
so
that
we
can
pull
names
from
our
own
list
of
people
who
live
here
and
have
lived
here
for
generations
and
are
really
struggling
to
stay
in
evanston.
U
So
if
we
can
really
prioritize
same
local
for
all
of
our
future
developments
and
perhaps
rethink
the
decision
about
the
finalists
for
tonight,
thank
you
for
everybody.
Thank
you
for
everything
and
welcome
council
member
here.
Thanks.
A
All
right
we're
I'm
hearing
that
we're
not
able
to
achieve
a
connection
with
ms
esther.
A
O
Yes,
she
was
at
the,
I
think
she
was
at
the
emergency
room.
She
said
she's
getting
ready
to
call
in.
O
I
talked
to
her
like
maybe
30
seconds
ago,
and
she
said
she
was
gonna
try
to
call
in
she
had
some
other
she
tried
to
call
in
before,
but
I
know
she's
for
affordable
housing.
So
in
any
event,
if
she
doesn't
call
in
she's
trying
to
so
just
give
her
a
pause.
Please.
A
So
I
think
what
we're
going
to
do
is
move
ahead,
and
I
could
ask
you
to
email,
the
city
clerk.
If
she's
able
to
connect,
we
can.
We
can
come
back
to
her
later
and
I'm
happy
to
do
that,
but
until
she's
until
she's
connected.
I
think
it's
in
the
best
interest
to
move
forward
with
the
meeting.
A
D
Thank
you.
I
am
I'll
move
item
ap
one,
the
appointment
of
juan
jerichodis,
as
is
that
I
hope
that's
the
correct
pronunciation.
As
the
new
ninth
ward
council
member.
V
A
Council
member
reed
moves
item
ap1
council
member
of
bell
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussion.
D
Oh
well,
then
I'll
just
say:
welcome
to
the
board
really
excited
to
see
you.
I
think
representation
really
matters,
and
it
is
important
to
have
our
first
latino
council
member,
representing
on
this
board,
so
extremely
excited
to
be
supporting
extremely
excited.
I
got
a
chance
to
speak
to
you
a
bit
earlier
and
we'll
continue.
Of
course
those
conversations
have
got
you
cornered
here,
so
I
have
plenty
of
time
to
to
talk
to
you
and
so
really
looking
forward
to
working
with
you
and
supporting
you.
D
However,
you
know
I
can't
I
know
all
of
us
up
here,
phil
the
same
way.
So
thank
you.
I
do
want
to
note,
though,
while
I'm
extremely
excited
about
your
appointment.
I
do
want
to
note
that
we
will
have
a
historically
low,
or
at
least
in
recent
history,
historically
low
representation
of
women
on
the
council.
D
I
think
you'd
have
to
go
back
to
the
19.
You
know
50s
or
60s
to
to
see
this
few,
maybe
even
the
1980s
I
don't
know,
but
I'm
not
real,
okay.
Well,
thank
you.
A
Is
there
any
further
discussion
on
the
appointment
before
us
seeing
none
would
the
clerk
please
call
the
role.
A
B
Y
Y
And
will
unceasingly
seek
to
quicken
the
sense
of
public
duty
to
quicken
the
sense
of
public
duty
duty.
We
will
revere
and
obey.
We
will
reveal
revere
and
obey
the
city's
laws
and
transmit
and
transmit
the
city,
this
city,
not
less,
but
greater,
beautiful
and
more
beautiful
than
it
than
it
was
transmitted
to
us.
E
E
E
A
A
Y
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
say
thank
you
for
giving
me
this
opportunity.
I,
my
my
friends
and
family,
know
that
I'm
a
man
of
few
words
I
just
want
to
thank
my
friends
and
family
and
the
community
for
all
the
support
I
couldn't
be
here
without
all
these
people,
so
I
look
forward
to
serving
with
all
of
you
thanks.
A
A
Okay,
I'm
sorry.
I
believe
that
was
a
false
alarm.
My
our
our
mistake
over
here
and
with
that
council
member
nusma
is
recognized
for
a
motion.
Z
Pursuant
to
five
illinois
compiled
statutes,
120
2a,
I
move
that
the
city
council
convene
into
executive
session
to
discuss
agenda
items
regarding
personnel
litigation
and
the
establishment
of
reserves
or
settlement
of
claims.
These
agenda
items
are
permitted
subjects
to
be
considered
an
executive
session
and
are
enumerated
exceptions
under
the
open
meetings
act
as
set
forth
in
five
ilcs
120
2a
sections,
c1,
c11
and
c
12..
A
Council
member
nusma
moves
the
the
city
council
resolves
itself
into
an
executive
session
council
member
win
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussion
council
member
reed?
I.
A
I
felt
that,
because
of
the
items
that
we're
going
to
be
discussing
related
to
personnel,
which
I
think
are
important
and
have
long-term
long-term
stakes
for
the
city,
it
was
important
for
us
to
be
fresh
and
given
I'm
not
sure
that
I
thought
it
would
necessarily
be
8.
40.
A
A
With
nine
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
the
motion
passes
at
8
41
pm,
the
city
council
resolves
into
an
executive
session
to
begin
immediately
in
the
council
member
library
to
the
point
just
made.
There
will
be
votes
after
this.
I
would
anticipate
this
taking
in
the
ballpark
of
an
hour
and
we'll
come
back
here
and
continue
our
work
as
soon
as
possible.
Z
A
It
is
it's
already
10
35,
so
everyone
is
still
here
has
been
extraordinarily
patient
out
of
appreciation
for
that
patience.
We're
going
to
juggle
the
order
slightly,
since
I
think
a
lot
of
folks
are
here
for
item
sp2.
Would
someone
make
a
motion
on
sp
two?
I
move.
D
A
Council
member
reed
moves
item,
sp2,
council
member,
when
seconds
and
on
this
item
I
believe
we
have
a
presentation
from
is
it
from
ms
flax
from
mr
zelmazak
yeah.
AA
I
plan
to
read
every
word
on
the
slide
at
this
late
hour,
so
please
hang
in
there.
I
just
wanted
to
share
with
you
the
kind
of
extensive
process
we
went
through.
This
dates
back
to
2017
kind
of
through
19,
where
once
council
member
win
chair,
the
transportation
committee
we
talked
about
this
years
ago
and
have
over
the
last
two
to
three
years,
have
developed
a
process
issued
an
rfp
and
went
through
an
extensive
review
process.
AA
They
closely
met
our
rfp
requirements,
including,
affordable,
wide
range
of
households,
amenities,
spaces
and
really
the
family.
The
the
family
size
units
is
what
we
were
really
focused
on
in
this
this
project.
We
did
put
a
upper
upward
limit
of
c1a
or
r5
zoning
on
this
project,
so
we
wouldn't
have
a
tall
building
on
the
site
and
we
made
sure
that
the
20
of
the
parking
spaces
were
replaced.
AA
20
was
picked
because
that
was
kind
of
the
average
usage
of
parking
in
that
lot.
I'm
stressing
that
this
is
the
very
very
beginning
of
this
process.
We
are
not
selecting
this
building.
We
are
not
selecting
this
design.
We
are
selecting
this
conceptually
to
move
on
to
the
next
step
of
the
process,
which
would
be
to
enter
the
zoning
analysis
phase.
AA
AA
To
the
microphone
to
talk
about
the
next
steps
in
the
in
the
housing
authority
process,
but
I
want
to
stress
this-
is
going
to
take
six
to
nine
months,
we're
at
the
beginning
of
the
zoning
analysis
process.
We
need
hud
review
and
I'll
invite
ms
guzman
to
the
microphone.
AB
Thanks
paul
hi,
everyone,
nancy
guzman,
director
of
development
at
the
housing
authority
of
cook
county
and
as
one
of
reiterated
what
paul
said
we're
very
early
in
the
process
here,
but
as
we've
started
this
process,
one
thing
we've
kept
front
and
center
is
the
current
residence
of
the
south
boulevard
units.
So
right
now
those
current
residents
are
in
or
those
residents
are
living
in
four
different
units
that
are
composed
of
two
two-bedroom
townhomes
and
two
three-bedroom
townhomes.
AB
For
those
residents
that
do
wish
to
relocate.
I
will
say
that
we're
also
working
on
we'll
be
working
on
a
full
relocation
plan
that
will
also
entitle
them
to
cover
the
relocation
expenses
up
to
50
miles
away
from
the
current
site.
So
in
no
way
will
they
be
economically
hurt
by
the
project
in
any
shape,
way
or
form.
AB
To
that
end
again,
we're
very
early
in
the
discussion,
and
that
was
just
a
preliminary
meeting
to
ensure
that
our
residents
were
informed
that
we
were
moving
forward
with
this
rfp
process
and
we're
very
excited
with
the
concept
that
pearl
has
presented
and
really
look
forward
to
be
able
to
continue
the
discussions
with
the
community
and
with
the
residents
and
with
the
city
to
make
this
project
come
to
fruition
thanks
and
I'll
pass.
It
on
now
I'll
bring
forward
our
the
developer
to
further
discuss
the
concept
that
has
been
presented
thanks.
AC
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
having
us
this
evening.
We
are
very
pleased
to
be
here
and
congratulations
to
council
member
hiracaris
here
with
me.
I
have
joseph
claire
from
database
plus
I'm
joanna
casanova
with
vice
president
of
development
for
pearl
and
online.
I
have
the
remainder
of
our
team
erin
sanchez
with
racial
architects.
AC
With
pearl
mike
mastin,
with
loperdo
contractor
we're
going
gonna
try
to
make
it
very
brief.
Yes,
okay,
no
problem.
AC
AC
Perfect.
Thank
you.
Yes
again,
I'm
gonna
try
to
move
quickly.
We
you,
we
could
definitely
address
questions
and
answers
in
the
at
the
end.
Super
development.
You
may
have
not
heard
of
them,
but
we
have
been
around
for
almost
20.
E
AC
In
illinois
and
throughout
the
mid-atlantic,
we
are
an
owner
developer
of
mixed
income
and
we
usually
leverage
community
partnerships.
That's
what
we
do
with
municipality
housing
authorities,
so
we
have
a
sexting
experience
with
these
type
of
partnerships
and
also
a
very
similar
development,
the
development
that
you
you
have
here
this
evening.
We
have
been
most
of
us
working
for
over
four
years
on
a
very
similar
mixed
income
development
in
lincoln
park
in
chicago.
AC
AC
AE
AC
AE
As
johanna
mentioned,
my
name
is
erin
sanchez
and
I
work
with
ratio,
design
ratio,
architects
here
in
chicago
in
the
loop-
and
I
guess
I
will
describe
a
little
bit
about
our
design
for
the
site
so
because
of
the
proximity
to
the
south
boulevard
cta
step.
AE
We
wanted
to
take
advantage
of
the
tod
and
benefits
from
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
so
that
helps
reduce
the
amount
of
resident
parking
that
is
available
and
allows
us
to
maintain
20
spaces
for
the
city's
continued
use
for
rental
parking
as
they
see
fit.
I
know
that
there
are
some
permits
or
passes
that
they
already
have
with
with
some
folks
in
the
lot
that's
existing
they're.
AE
And
when
we
were
looking
at
this
project,
we
wanted
to
be
sensitive
to
scale,
so
our
design
steps
down
in
height
to
meet
the
residential
areas,
north
and
east
of
the
site,
walking
from
you,
know,
five
stories
down
to
three
at
the
eastern
edge
and
the
building
is
also
set
back
from
south
boulevard
to
provide
front
yards
green
space
and
to
preserve
the
neighborhood
pedestrian
feel
of
the
area.
AE
We
also
did
take
a
look.
I
know
that
there
were
some
preliminary
studies
that
evanston
had
done
with
the
the
residents
and
the
neighbors
in
the
community.
The
visual
preference
summary
summary
we
studied
quite
closely,
and
we
did
find
that
a
lot
of
folks
seem
to
prefer
the
town
house.
Look,
the
town
home
look,
and
there
were
also
quite
a
few
comments
based
on
scale
and
trying
to
remain
scale
sensitive
to
the
neighborhood.
AE
The
town
home
style
allows
for
walk-up
units
and
front
doors
and
front
yards,
which
we
actually
think
are
really
great
because
they
allow
for
equitable
access
that
will
help
the
new
residents
blend
in
with
the
community
of
their
neighbors,
and
the
townhouse
also
does
have.
The
townhomes
also
have
some
four
three-bedroom
duplex
units
among
other
unit
types,
so
there's
a
good
mix
of
the
types
of
families
and
people
who
will
be
living
in
this
building.
AE
This
is
a
concept
design,
so
the
design
volume
does
sits
back
from
the
front
of
the
town
homes
to
sort
of
emphasize
their
presence
and
and
their
lower
scale,
before
popping
up
to
make
the
most
of
the
tod
site
and
its
proximity
to
the
cta
and
the
form
that
we
used
that
we
designed
it
uses
a
sawtooth
design
to
both
maximize
solar
capture
and
to
help
break
up
the
roofline
and
the
volume
of
the
building
behind
we're
using
materials
that
incorporate
evanston's
climate
acts.
AE
But
I
I
will
say
this
is
this
is
a
concept
of
design
and
we
would
very
much
like
the
opportunity
to
have
more
direct
engagement
with
the
the
residents
of
the
community
and
to
be
able
to
receive
some
feedback.
AE
E
AC
AC
So
we
also
have
the
goal
to
target
lower
income
levels
with
some
project-based
voucher
subsidy
with
about
18
apartments,
and
we
also
believe
in
diversity
of
income
levels.
So
we
have
market
rate
units
and
we
believe
this
is
a
great
location
for
this.
We
have
successfully
implemented
these
type
of
ratios
in
similar
communities.
AC
We
understood,
there's
a
benefit
for
larger
units,
two
and
three
bedrooms,
and
those
include
more
than
60
percent
of
the
units
with
if
you've
heard,
we
try
to
be
creative
in
a
duplex
style
benefiting
for
families
and
we've
heard
the
minimum
proposal.
This
is
a
parking
space
and
I
know
there's
a
parking
need.
We've
heard
that
loud
and
clear
and
we
have
exceeded
the
minimum
requirements
of
the
rfp,
so
we
have
65
parking
spaces
on
the
development.
AC
AD
Thank
you,
john
and
joseph
claire
principal
with
dbhms.
I
oversee
the
database
plus
human
centered
resilience
and
sustainability
studio.
We
work
to
help
make
meet
pearl's
goal
of
maximizing
the
the
way
that
the
project
ties
in
with
carp
and
the
the
region
leading
goals
that
evanston
has
set,
and
so
to
that
we
have
a
low
carbon
building
with
zero
carbon
operational
from
day
one
there
will
be.
AD
Sixty
percent
of
the
energy
will
be
generated
on
site
through
renewables,
with
the
other
forty
percent
coming
through
an
offsite
ppa
purchasing
renewable
energy,
so
it'll
automatically
comply
with
that
element
of
the
goals,
but
that's
also
going
further.
As
I
mentioned,
with
the
parking,
there
is
already
going
to
be
infrastructure
in
place
for
electric
vehicles
on
day,
one
with
the
capacity
to
increase
to
up
to
50
percent
of
the
parking
spaces
as
the
market
and
the
and
the
community's
goals
continue
to
move
forward.
AD
Complimenting
that
we're
also
going
to
be
looking
at
best
management
practices
for
storm
water.
There
will
be
a
green
roof,
there
will
be
permeable
pavers.
There
will
also
be
rain
water
reuse
to
minimize
the
effects
that
storm
water
and
flooding
have,
which
obviously
is
another
key
element
to
our
region
and
tying
into
that.
The
sustainable
landscape
design
will
have
native
adaptive
vegetation
again
just
maximizing
all.
We
could
to
comply
with
the
requirements
that
evanston
already
has
in
its
plans.
AD
AC
AC
So
our
commitment
is
to
work
with
the
city
of
evanston,
the
housing
authority
of
cook
county
and
the
residents
in
the
community
to
leverage
those
resources
and
make
sure
that
we
not
only
take
care
of
the
physical
asset
but
also
the
human
side.
So
we
have
included
some
financial
budget
in
this
development
to
make
sure
that
we
have
those
resources
for
staffing
to
coordinate
those
services
either
in
the
development
or
offsite
nearby.
AF
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
thank
you
very
much
for
for
this
building
and
for
all
of
the
various
parts
of
it
that
you've
just
described.
You
know
this
has
been,
as
mr
selmasack
said,
been
under
discussion
for
it's
almost
five
years
coming
up
with
using
this
underutilized
asset
along
with
hacc's
property
to
finally
design
and
have
in
evanston
the
size
and
quantity
of
not
if
not
the
total
quantity,
but
a
significant
quantity
of
affordable
housing
that
meets
the
needs
of
families
and
people
here
in
the
community.
AF
So
I
I
think
the
design
is
very
exciting.
I
like
the
idea
of
a
townhouse
design
that
it's
set
back
from
the
street,
that
it
is
in
context
with
the
community
and
that
it
retains
the
20
parking
spaces
that
are
regularly
used
in
that
lot.
One
and
that
that
the
community
members
who
are
there
now
in
hack,
are
have
first
opportunity
to
move
into
this.
So
I
I
appreciate
all
of
these
things,
particularly
the
sustainability
aspect
of
the
building.
AF
You
know
I
saw
in
the
proposal
that
it
has
it's
net
zero
and
I
think
you,
you
might
be
the
first
residential
property
in
evanston.
That
is,
is
net
zero.
So
that's
in
every
way.
I
am
very
impressed
by
this,
and
I
do
think
this
gives
us
the
city,
a
template
to
move
forward,
to
have
market
rate
mixed
with
affordability
and
have
that
market
rate
help
drive
and
finance
the
ability
to
have
more
affordable
housing.
AF
So
I
know-
and
I
think
that
this
this
looks
very
good
and
I'm
really
eager
to
get
it
going
through
our
our
zoning
process
and
I'm
just
going
to
jump
the
gun
on
on
you
and
say
we
also
needed
to
be
bird
friendly.
AF
AC
Yeah
and
we
want
to
clarify,
we
definitely
worked
significantly
on
making
sure
we
have
the
sustainability
requirements
you're
trying
to
achieve
on
the
net
zero
side.
We
are
definitely
committing
to
those
goals.
On
the
certification
side,
it
could
be
a
little
bit
more
complicated,
but
at
least
we
are
committing
to
the
design
intent.
I
think
we
kind
of
explained.
AF
W
W
If
I
missed
it,
my
apologies
I
wish
I
would
have,
even
though
they
didn't
get
it.
You
know
there
was
calls
made
over
the
weekend
and
I
didn't
have
a
chance
to
read
through
all
of
the
sipa.
You
know
the
person
didn't
get
it
their
their
proposal,
but
in
speaking
to
prior
to
tonight
there
were
a
couple
of
things
that
I
was.
I
was
looking
forward
to
in
terms
of
the
home
ownership
piece,
and
so
I
see
a
rental
model
which
you
know
from
my
perspective.
W
It's
great
for
developers,
you
know,
but
rent
will
always
go
up
and
then
there's
no
home
ownership,
and
so,
if
I
was
just,
you
may
not
be
able
to
change
your
model,
but
just
a
couple
of
things
that
I
want
to
pull
out
of
here.
So
two
million
dollar
developments
fee
go
straight
to
company
which,
if
you
developers
don't
make
profit,
it
isn't
a
good
project.
W
We
just
had
a
several
projects
within
this
last
year
that
were
delayed
because
they're
not
getting
the
materials
that
they
need
and
then
they're
also
the
cost
of
those
materials
have
like
skyrocketed
and
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
lot
of
turmoil
right
now.
How
are
you
going
to
where's
your
contingency
in
this?
I
guess
is
my.
AC
AC
Times
and
that's
a
problem
we're
seeing
over
and
over,
unfortunately,
we
don't
know
we're
going
to
be
in
a
couple
months,
but
we
do
have
a
heart
cost
contingency
in
the
budget.
That
was
in
the
amount
of
a
hundred
and
twenty
thousand.
It
was
it's
technically
an
honor
contingency,
so
you
may
not
have.
W
AC
AC
Yes,
we
do
have
a
contingency,
it's
usually
five
percent-
for
a
new
construction
project.
That's
what
we.
E
AC
Right
now
now
to
the
escala
to
the
end
of
the
escalation
we
priced
each
project
almost
about
a
year
ago,
and
obviously
we
don't
know
for
certain
where
we're
heading.
However,
to
stress
that
we
are
in
the
concept
stages
and
we
do
that's
kind
of
our
expertise
to
leverage
multiple
resources.
So
with
the
timing
that
we
have
that's,
where
we're
going
to
really
concentrate
and.
E
AC
Different
ways
we're
doing
multiple
projects
right
now,
like
biomat,
asking
the
finance
in
agencies
to
provide
up
front
funding.
So
we
can
look
pricing
if
that's
beneficial,
explore
other
products
trying
to
look
at
a
crystal
bar
and
look
ahead,
but
we
do
not
have,
for
example,
escalation
that
we've
seen,
for
example,
in
some
of
the
products
we're
seeing
today.
But
I
don't
think
anybody
can
really
lock
that
in
right
now.
N
AC
AC
All
projects
are
in
similar
situations,
so
we
are
trying
to
work
with
the
finance
authorities
right
to
kind
of
realize
how
we
will
work
and
increase
costs
as
you
determine,
but
we
are
in
such
an
early
stage
that
we
can
definitely
expo
or
explore
some
of
the
brands.
For
example,
we
try
to
be
conservative,
some
of
the
sources
of
financing.
AH
AC
But
I
have
the
general
contractual
part
of
mcmaster
is
with
us.
I
don't
know
mike
if
you
have
anything
to
add
and.
P
Yes,
I'm
here
jonah,
I
think
you
covered
it.
I
mean,
with
the
contingency
in
place,
we're
going
to
do
everything
that
we
can
to
pre-plan
plan
for
the
most
efficient
materials
and
purchase
materials
at
the
most
opportune
time
in
order
to
take
advantage
of
of
pricing
in
the
marketplace
and
we're
hoping,
along
with
everyone
else,
that
the
wild
price
fluctuations
that
we've
seen
recently
start
to
settle
down,
and
we
have
started
to
see
some
of
that
already
so
other
than
that.
I
think
joanna
covered
most
of
the
points.
Thank
you.
W
And
then
the
last
thing
that
that
I
always
look
for
opportunities
for
for
local
contractors,
so
you
are
out
of
state.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
relationships
that
are
either
in
town
or
that
you
know,
hits
our
target
population
people
of
color
in
terms
of
contract
opportunities.
If,
if
you
don't
have
that
model,
I
would
suggest
maybe
reaching
out
to
our
staff
and
maybe
there's
a.
W
AC
Our
team
is
mostly
illinois
based,
we
are
in
chicago,
I
am
in
chicago
my
mustang
else.
They
also
have
a
office
in
chicago.
We
are.
This
team
is
common
of
a
chicago
housing
authority
development,
we're
working
on
with
also
city
of
chicago
requirements
where
we
exceeded
the
requirements,
and
we
have
60
percent
minority
with
local
subcontracts,
and
then
we
also
have
high
thresholds
for
section
3
housing.
AC
So
we
have
become
quite
experienced
and
trying
to
achieve
those.
So
I
think
that's
our
goal
to
meet
or
exceed
what
the
local
requirements
are
in
the
subcontractors
will
be
local,
like
you
will
define
what
the
area
will
be,
and
yes,
we
we
have
also
tried
to
meet.
Those
are
sometimes
a
little
bit
more
challenging
to
try
to
meet
those,
and
that's
a
very
good
point.
AC
AG
Is
is
hud's
and
I'm
actually
going
to
go
on
a
different
direction.
What
it
sounds
like
I
am,
but
this
is
just
more
of
a
technical
question,
but
is
that
hud's
definition,
because
I
was
told
hud
is,
is
below
60
is
considered
affordable?
AG
Do
you
know
that
sarah
not
to
put
to
I
just
want
to
make
sure
my
facts
are
correct
and
then
I'm
going
to
bring
this
all
back
to
a
happier
thing,
but
I
just
I'm
just
trying
to
get
when
we.
AI
Say
60
units,
sorry,
their
income
cannot
exceed
60
and
in
there's
a
table
that
shows
there
are
going
to
be
a
number
that
are
below
that
and
the
18
project-based
support
units
are
like
public
housing.
The
tenants
have
to
have
incomes
that
are
below
50
of
area
median.
Most
of
them
are
in
the
30
or
below.
That's
just
what
happens,
because
that's
who
need
that
and
they
pay
30
of
their
income
and
the
voucher
pays
for
the
rest.
So
we
have
deeply
deeply
subsidized
units
in
this.
AI
People
who
have
project-based
support
can
have
basically
zero
income
in
some
cases
and
and
be
living
there.
So
nancy
may
be
able
to
provide
more
details
on
that.
If
you
want
are.
AI
They're
project
project-based
vouchers,
the
the
subsidy
is
in
the
unit.
F
AC
That
makes
sense
so
in
the
affordable
units.
So
yes,
it
does.
It
does
include
the
hot
definition.
Any
unit
which
is
80
of
the
units
are
at
or
below
60
ami,
within
that,
as
I
was
trying
to
explain,
we
have
different
further
targets
within
income
levels
and
in
all
of
those
units
the
tenant
will
not
pay
more
than
30
of
the
average
median
income
of
that
level.
AC
AG
I
was
trying
to
get
more
into
the
rents
because
I,
the
amis,
can
get
a
little
confusing.
I
know
a
project
we're
working
on
in
the
fifth
ward
we've.
You
know
the
developer
has
broken
it
down
into
what
people
can
expect
to
pay
in
in
rent,
and
I
think
that's
the
way.
People
typically
make
these
type
of
decisions
and
what
I
have
and
that's
why
I
asked
the
first
question.
AG
So
I
don't
know
if
this
falls
on
the
line,
but
what
I
have
this
is
the
illinois,
housing
development
authority's
schedule
of
maximum
monthly
gross
rents
for
60
ami
for
a
one
bedroom,
you're,
looking
at
1049,
two
bedrooms
or
1200
and
three
bedrooms.
Fourteen
hundred,
so
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
that
sounds
about
right.
AG
Percent
sixty
percent
yeah,
yes,
which
is
good
in
evanston.
This
is
why
I
wanted
to
bring
that
up
that
yeah.
I
think
we
had
certain.
We
had
some
public
comments
about
60,
but
in
evanston
to
pay
you
know,
1400
for
a
three-bedroom
is
is,
is
is
a
great
opportunity
for
our
residents.
AI
These
use
the
exact
same
schedule.
As
all
I
mean
all
of
these
rents
are
dictated
by
hud
and
the
illinois
housing
development
authority
posts
them
so
you're,
absolutely
right
in
evanston.
The
60
rents
really
are
a
really
good,
relatively
low
rent
for
evanston,
and
then
we
have
rents
that
will
be
below
that.
AG
J
AG
Right,
okay
and
then
it
was
noted
in
in
this
that
that
the
this
particular
plan
had
kind
of
did
needed.
Limited
amount
of.
AD
AG
Evanston
and
then
I
saw
that
I
think
a
major
a
portion
of
it
was
the
low-income
housing
tax
credit
which
every
developer
would
have
access
to
if
they
applied,
and
I
know
that
application
process
is
happening
currently,
but
that's
a
90
of
affordable
housing
is
developed.
That
way,
I
would
imagine
even
some
of
the
other
proposals
said
that
they
were
going
to
seek
that
funding.
AD
AC
I
know
we
still
have
to
go
through
the
competitive
process
through
the
renault
housing
and
development
authority
now,
because
of
its
location,
this
project
will
what
we
call
highly
score
within
that,
but
we
still
have
to
go
through
the
approval
process
and.
AG
AG
AC
All
work
good
point:
I
that,
as
noted
on
the
proposal
can
act
as
a
lender.
That
will
be
just
like
any
other
private
mortgage
that
wouldn't
be
approved,
but
the
tax
credits
are
a
competitive
process
and
then
with
that
comes
the
soft
funds,
so
that
will
be
tied
together
to
the
application
process.
AG
And
I'll
hold
there
just
to.
I
have
some
other
questions,
but
I
hope.
AC
I
was
just
gonna
know
to
you,
I
mean
the
attractiveness
of
these
deals
are
that
they
are
targeting
different
income
levels,
so
you
were
reading
the
income
levels
of
60,
which
is
the
upper
limit
on
the
affordable
units.
It
can
be
30
and
those
range
depending
on
the
household
it
can
be
as
low
as
or
even
lower,
twenty
thousand
dollars,
average
income
level
in
cook
county
all
the
way
to
like.
If
you
have
a
four
person
household,
sixty
percent,
fifty
five
thousand
dollars
and
the
rent
is
the
same.
AC
AG
Z
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
This
looks
like
a
great
project,
I'm
looking
forward
to
supporting
this.
I
have
some
questions
for
staff
regarding
process
and
I
don't.
E
AI
We
had
a
bunch
of
really
great
proposals,
but
one
of
the
things
that
really
stood
out
peril
had
not
the
absolute
greatest
number
of
units.
They
didn't
push
the
absolute
max.
They
did
the
st
step
backs,
and
things
like
that
that
we
talked
about
wanting
to
have
the
scale
in
the
neighborhood,
but
cipa
and
reba,
which
was
our
next
closest
proposed,
a
total
of
52
units.
So
we
got
more
units.
AI
AI
AI
Just
really
was
the
choice
when
we
all
when
the
scoring
was
all
done-
and
it
was
very
from
that
standpoint-
it's
very
objective.
Every
of
every
member
of
the
team
scored
individually
and
that's
how
the
scores
came
out.
AB
Z
AI
Matrix,
it
was
absolutely,
and-
and
this
is
something
where
the
cost
per
unit
was
looked
at-
a
lot
of
attention
was
given
to
the
types
of
things
that
council,
member
brace
braithwaite
was
asking
about
like
okay.
What
are
you
estimating
your
costs
are
going
to
be?
We
had
some
developers
who
we
looked
at
the
construction
costs
and
it
just
didn't
look
like
it
would
hold
up,
especially
given
the
market.
The
way
it's
going
now
so
all
of
that
stuff
is
looked
at.
AI
AI
They
give
out,
I
think,
about
30
30
yeah,
I
mean
you
know
you
get
probably
three
times
as
many
applicants
as
get
tax
credits,
so
it's
not
something
where
you
can
just
do
whatever
you
want,
and
ida
is
very
demanding
ida,
also
just
so
that
you
know
is
looking
for
resilience
and
and
energy
efficiency,
and
things
like
that
are
federal
funders
and,
of
course,
all
this
comes
from
the
federal
government.
AI
In
some
format
are
really
trying
to
push
that
they
view
it
as
very
important,
they're,
probably
leading
the
market
rate
developers
and
from
that
standpoint
demanding
it
and
then
people
say,
but
the
units
are
expensive,
but
it
meets
multiple
goals
and
it
gets
good
housing.
So
you
know
all
of
that.
Stuff
is
in.
Z
That
equation
with
with
cost
as
a
consideration,
you
know
that
we're
getting
into
a
council
member
bracelet
was
asking
about
about.
You
know
how
much
of
a
buffer
did
you
build
in
to
absorb
market
fluctuations,
which
is
the
tough
business
to
be
in
at
the
moment?
It.
AI
Is
but
the
other
thing
is
ida
has
norms,
and
so
you
also
have
to
look
at
those
ranges.
You
know
all
the
developers
these
there
are
macs
and
all
of
that
is
eyeballed
by
everybody
and
and
everybody's
in
the
same
situation.
Right
now,
with
the
unknowns
and
but
we've
got
smart
people
who
are
going
to
look
to
buy
things
when
they
can
buy
them
efficiently
and
look
at
different
materials
and
alternatives
were
possible.
Z
AI
That
wasn't
something
we
had
in
our
scoring
matrix.
One
of
the
things
one
of
the
things
that
got
their
scores
very
high
was
how
well
they
know
the
area
and
the
other
things
that
they
just
are
familiar
with.
I
mean
they
had
some
interesting
ideas
about
how
you
could
reconfigure
the
alley,
for
example,
behind
to
keep
traffic
from
going
up,
trying
to
get
dodge
around
chicago
avenue
and
come
up
hinman.
AI
But
you
know
those
are
things
that
are
not
something
that
can't
that
can
be
looked
at
in
any
in
designs
going
forward.
But
sipa
and
reba
put
together
a
really
excellent
proposal,
and
I
certainly
hope
we
will
find
an
opportunity
to
give
them
a
project
someplace
else
in
the
city,
because
they're
very
valuable
partners,
and
we
want
to
keep
them,
and
they
were
actually
here
saying
that
they
wanted
to
voice
their
support
for
the
project
as
proposed.
V
Thank
you.
Yes,
this
looks
like
an
interesting
project
and
I
am
like
the
mixed
income
aspect
to
it.
I
had
a
couple
of
questions
regarding
the
the
residents
living
in
the
four
existing
units.
So
I'm
sorry,
when
did
you
say
you
met
with
them
in
july
of.
AB
July
14,
2021
and
actually
prior
to
that
in
2019,
there
were
other
meetings
because
these
units
were
being
targeted
for
rehab,
so
we
were
going
to
have
to
move
them
out
of
do
something
called
a
section:
18
application
to
move
them
out
of
public
housing
into
a
rad
type
program,
so
there
had
been
obviously
various
iterations
looked
at
it
at
improving
the
site.
Thank.
V
AB
I
would
have
to
circle
back
with
you
on
that.
I
believe,
because
they're
moving
out
of
public
housing
into
a
voucher
program,
those
rents
might
slightly
change,
but
the
spirit
of
them
only
paying
30
percent
of
their
income
remains,
but
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
what
those
numbers
turn
out
to
be
because
they
are
in
a
public
housing
program
right
now,
which
is
different
than
a
voucher
program,
but
it
would
still
be
thirty
percent
of
their
other
ami.
V
V
Okay,
and
would
these
would
the
affordable
housing
units
be
affordable,
housing
units
in
perpetuity.
AB
Yes,
so
the
way
the
rfp
was
written
was
40
years,
there's
an
expectation
that
those
tax
credits
then
would
get
renewed
and
continue
being
affordable.
V
Okay,
let's
see-
and
so
I
see
that
it's
the
c1a
is
that
it.
So
what
is
the
purpose
of
the
c1a
zoning
for
this.
AB
AA
Right
so
we
council,
member
kelly,
we
we
were
attempting
to
place
an
upper
limit
on
what
we
would
accept
on
the
site
and
with
consultation
with
our
zoning
colleagues.
They
suggested
that
we
might
consider
matching
it
up
with
what
the
experience
is
on
south
boulevard
by
the
train
station,
the
the
town
homes
on
that
center
zone
c1a.
So
we
thought,
is
there
a
way
to
incorporate
aspects
of
that
to
bring
kind
of
you
know
if
there
was
going
to
be
like
a
daycare
center
or
something
at
the
base?
AA
How
could
we
zone
it
in
that
way?
So
really
it
was
designed
to
create
an
upper
limit,
but
also
provide
provide
more
than
what
lower
zoning
would
allow.
We
want
to
add
units
to
the
community
that
was
that
was
the
point
so
with
c1a
or
r5.
I
think
your
analysis
you're
looking
at
c1a
yeah,
so
they've
made
assumption
based
on
c1a.
AE
Chime
in
on
that
a
bit
we
did
go
as
part
of
our
design
in
this
project.
We
did
look
at
the
c1a,
but
we
are
not
maximizing
the
site
coverage
that
could
be
designed
according
to
c1a
restrictions.
So
you
know
with
the
c1a
you
can
build
up
to
the
lot
line.
AE
We
could
build
pretty
much
right
up
to
the
sidewalk
and
we
are
holding
at
least
a
20
foot
setback
for
those
townhome
units,
because
we
do
want
to
provide
a
more
open
space
feel
the
the
front
yard
feel
that
is
similar
to
the
other
residences
further
down
the
street.
We
definitely
want
to
maintain
that
that
green
space
and
that
pedestrian
friendly
atmosphere,
the
the
c1a,
is
not
maximizing
on
necessarily
the
the
building
site
coverage.
V
AF
AA
So,
if,
if
I
could
just
make
one
statement
about
so
the
the
next
step
of
this
process
is
a
zoning
process
which
will
analyze
that
right.
So
that
would
be
the
opportunity
to
to
kind
of
work
that
out
with
the
staff.
I
don't
know
how
to
flex
that
right
now
to
know
like
what
happens,
if
you
remove
that,
how
does
the
building
change
that
could
be
a
possibility?
V
Okay,
on
that
note,
I
just
want
to
say
it.
I
I
mean
I
think,
a
sort
of
a
core
tenant
of
a
successful
development
in
a
city
or
neighborhoods
really
is
that
community
participation
in
conversation
and
input-
and
I
know
we
all
just
received
tonight-
I
had
a
few,
which
I
kind
of
disregard,
and
then
I
just
got
this
last
one
which
we
all
got
from.
You
know
a
very
a
very
participatory
member
of
our
community
who's,
a
commissioner
and
very
meticulous
and
detail-oriented.
Who
said.
V
There's
I
mean
I
I
would
like
to
know
regarding
this
c1a
have
we
had
a
community
meeting?
I
don't
mean
with
a
couple
of
tenants
from
the
existing
housing
but
an
actual
community
meeting.
I
know
when
I've
held
community
meetings.
I
get
over
100
people
showing
up
about
these
developments
and
I'm
hearing
and
again
I
heard
a
few
times
and
then
just
now
we
got
this
recent
email
email.
V
So
essential
to
a
successful
development,
so
councilman
kelly.
So
I
just
want
to
say-
and
I
you
know
I
believe,
melissa
whatever
you're
about
to
say-
I'm
not
going
to
doubt
you,
except
that
the
perception
is
that-
and
I
think
this
would
be
much
more
successful,
going
forward
to
first
have
a
community
meeting
to
discuss
the
c1a
zoning
and
everything
else,
because
clearly
that's
what
the
residents
around
there
seem
to
be
feeling
that
there
has
not
been
effective
community
meetings
around
this.
A
AF
I
just
and
I'm
gonna
jump
in
here,
because
there
are
a
handful
of
people
who
participated
in
public
comment
tonight,
two
of
whom
I've
known
for
20
years.
They
attended
every
single
community
meeting
that
we
had
in
fact,
two
of
them
disrupted
one
meeting
so
badly
that
we
had
to
end
the
meeting.
AF
They
have
been
noticed
on
every
single
development
that
we
have
had
here.
I've
had
multiple
community
meetings
and
I'm
claire
I'm
happy
to
give
you
the
details
of
how
many
people
met
with
me
and
the
number
this
commissioner,
who
just
wrote
to
us
tonight
at
8
29,
is
not
what
he
says
is
not
true
paul
salmosek,
johanna
naden,
and
I
can
tell
you
the
exact
number
of
times
we
met
with
people
40
50
people
there
courts
of
evanston
there.
AF
I
really
really
resent
people
arriving
at
our
public
comment
and
lying
just
lying
and
a
commissioner
from
one
of
our
commissions
lying
on
that
we
discussed
with
the
community
the
potential
zoning
changes.
I
don't
know
that
you
understand
that
what
this
does
tonight
is
starts
the
zoning
process.
That
means
it
will
go
to
dapper
after
the
zoning
analysis.
Dapper
is
a
public
meeting;
it
will
go
to
the
land
use
commission.
It
will
be
there
for
as
many
meetings
as
is
necessary.
Those
are
public
meetings.
AF
It
will
come
to
planning
and
development
for
as
many
meetings
as
is
necessary.
That's
that's
a
total
of
five
public
meetings
on
that,
and
so
what
I
have
also
heard
from
the
community
is
a
tremendous
support
for
this
type
of
affordable
housing,
three-bedroom
family
units
on
an
asset
that
has
sat
there
unused.
AF
There
are
approximately
50
parking
spaces
there.
We
have
marketed
them
and
every
possible
way
to
get
people
to
fill
them
up.
The
average
number
of
parking
permits
that
are
used
in
that
parking
lot
is
20..
We
are
replacing
them
on
this
site,
part
of
the
what
we
did
in
the
rfp.
If
you
went
back
and
read
it
is
we
said
that
we
wanted
it
to
be
architecturally
in
context
with
this
community,
which
meant
having
a
front
setback.
That's
what
has
been
designed
here,
c1a.
AF
That
may
not
be
how
this
ends
up
and
to
have
someone
I'm
sorry,
I
I
just
I'm
really
frustrated.
This
is
five
years
in
the
process.
There
have
been
any
number
of
community
meetings
to
have.
Somebody
announce
basically
lie
to
us
is
really
disappointing.
V
A
Perception,
I'm
just
saying
that
it
just
seems
to
me
that
not
a
productive
discussion
at
this
point-
I
I
we've
heard
public
comment.
We
heard
council
member
wins
comments.
I
think
we
need
to
move
forward.
Next
is
councilmember
reed.
D
Thank
you,
so
I
I
appreciate
your
proposal.
I
think
it's
great,
I
think
all
of
the
proposals
are
great.
I
appreciate
staff's
work
I
and
I'm
happy
to
move
forward
with
this,
but
I
I
I
think
the
reba
proposal
was
one
point
short
of
this
proposal
and
I
understand
sarah
and
team
that
we
do
not
currently
factor
in
you
know
into
our
scoring
system.
D
And
you
know
so,
but
from
what
I've
heard
you
know
I
haven't
personally
verified.
I
haven't
heard
you
know
the
riva
board.
Officially
say
we
support
this
project,
but
you
know,
I
certainly
believe.
AD
D
That
that
is
true,
that
that
is
your
understanding
that
the
river
board
is
supporting
this
project.
So
if
the
reba
board
supports
this
project,
I
will
support
this
project,
but
certainly
I
think
in
the
future.
We
need
to
look
at
our
scoring
criteria
and
certainly
put
in
a
preference
for
if
the
only
thing
separating
these
two
groups
is
one
point,
and
it's
that
you
know
and
we
have
a
local
group.
I
think
that
group
should
have
been
the
group
that
that
won
out
but
again
we're
here
now.
D
I
support
this,
but
let's
look
toward
the
future
and
try
to
fix
that,
and-
and
I
will
also
say
just
one
more
case
for
for
you-
know
this
local
preference
from
what
I've
heard
from
reba
folks
is:
it's
not
just
providing
affordable
housing.
There's
wrap-around
services,
I've
heard
cases
where
someone
has
been
evicted
from
someone
who
needed
to
be
evicted
was
evicted
from
a
place
at
reba,
but
reba
still
supported
that
person
and
finding
new
housing.
D
You
know
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
you
get
with,
not
just
a
local
provider,
but
particularly
a
local
provider
like
reba,
who
is
you
know,
drenched
in
the
dan
can
say
the
the
mennonite
in
the
in
that
tradition,
and
so
we
need
to
factor
that
in
somehow
in
the
future.
So
I'll
rest,
my
comments
there.
Thank
you.
A
AG
Just
to
understand
how
those
this
the
get
a
sense
of
how
the
scoring
works,
especially
for
next
time,
we
see
similar
rfps
before
us.
So
it
looks
like
where
reba
scored
two
points
less
than
this
project
was
in
the
financing
plan
and
again
I've.
As
I
previously
stated
it.
It
seems
like
the
bulk
I'd,
say.
First
glance:
60
percent
of
this
project
was
funded
is
proposed
to
be
funded
by
those
low
income
tax
credits.
So
what
was
the
difference?
Sarah
or
paul
for
you
in
dropping
riva
two
points
in
the
financing
plan.
AI
I'm
going
to
ask
nancy
guzman
to
talk
about
the
financing,
because
the
housing
authority
staff
also
reviewed
it
and
they're.
Really
our
financing
experts.
AB
The
evaluation
committee
was
composed
of
three
city,
papastan
staff
members
and
two
hacc
members.
E
AB
On
on
that
finance
portion,
what
really
drove
the
difference
is
that,
because
they
did
have
a
home
ownership
component,
the
financing
structure
was
different
and
just
required
additional
subsidies,
and
I
believe
that
some
of
the
assumptions
they
were
making
actually
required
additional
soft
funding
that
the
pearl
team
was
not
carrying
in
their
proposal
and
so
that
really
drove
the
difference
in
understanding.
AB
You
know
from
a
financial
standpoint
which
one
was
more
of
a
difficult
to
say
self-sustaining,
because
they
obviously
had
really
strong
attributes.
This
is
why
it
was
a
really
tough
decision,
but
ultimately
we
did
see
pearl's
financials
as
being
more
sustainable
and
also
knowing
that
we
would
have
that
affordable
housing
component
for
perpetuity,
given
that
it
would
be
rental.
AG
Yeah-
and
it
is
unfortunate
that
that
someone
tried
to
shoot
for
home
ownership
and
because
of
the
complexity
of
it
likely
kind
of
lost
the
opportunity.
Now
I
will
say
just
in
talking
to
other
developers
that
that
rent
to
own
model
is
difficult
to
pull
off
in
these
type
of
scenarios.
AG
It's
unfortunate
that
it
seems
like
that's
what
why
they
did
not
receive
the
you
know
a
higher
score
and
and
likely
you've
been
awarded
this
rfp,
but
I
will
say
just
from
conversations:
I've
had
extensive
conversations
ahead,
although
the
intent
behind
it
is
is
a
good
one.
It
is
a
lot
more
complicated
to
pull
off
and
particularly
because
everybody
doesn't
you
got
to
get,
you
want
to
get
everybody
to
buy
into
it,
but
some
people
may
not
it's
just.
It
complicates
the
deal
for
sure,
but
that
that
provides
some
clarity.
AG
AG
Just
got
one
more
question
and
then
the
I'm
trying
to
understand
the
office
manager,
because
I
think
in
the
reba
plan
that
they
were
going
to
have
like
a
designated
office
and
person
at
the
site
that
was
providing
wrap-around
services
in
some
sense.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
understand.
What's
in
this
proposal,
I
think
it
was
mentioned
that
it
might
be
on-site.
It
might
be
off-site
just
trying
to
get
a
better
sense
of
how
that
would
work
in
particular
if
it
was
off-site.
AC
Yeah
we
have
included
a
budget
to
include
as
a
staff
on-site
to,
but
where
I
mentioned,
offsite
is
to
coordinate
services
either
they're
happening
within
the
amenity
areas
that
we
have
in
the
building.
If
there's
some
wellness
program,
sometimes
they
have
there's
a
fitness
center.
There's
a
community
room
either
it
will
depend
on
the
programming
that
we
developed,
whether
it'll
happen
on
site
or
what
I
was
mentioning
to
coordinate
to
services
with
organizations
at
their
facilities
offsite
but
yeah.
We
have
added
staff
cost,
but.
AG
A
No
further
discussion
with
the
clerk:
please
call
the
roll
sorry
with
two
minutes
and
15
seconds
left,
councilmember
kelly.
AB
So
we
have
the
rfp
requested
40
years.
Traditionally,
what
happens
is
the
tax
credits
are
just
almost
recycled
so
that
just
resets
the
clock?
Furthermore,
there
is
discussion
because
hacc
will
have
vouchers
in
the
property
and
also
for
replacement
public
housing
units.
Hacc
will
still
be
involved,
as
it
relates
to
those
particular
units.
V
F
AC
A
This
brings
us
in
reverse
chronological
order
to
item
sp1.
Would
someone
make.
A
AA
Thank
you
interim
deputy
manager.
Still
thank
you,
mr
mayor
members
of
the
council.
What
I
wanted
to
do,
I
hope
you've
all
had
an
opportunity
to
look
through
the
two
documents.
AA
One
is
the
kind
of
the
longer
what
I
call
the
white
paper,
it's
a
little
more
detailed
and
then
the
communication
kind
of
vehicle
that
was
printed
and
placed
at
your
seat,
and
we
will
be
using
that
to
distribute
for
just
better
communication
with
the
community
and
also
having
our
website
kind
of
reflect
more
of
a
graphic
bullet
point
design
to
make
this
easier.
AA
AA
If
you
would
validate
the
plan
with
an
affirmative
vote
tonight,
place
it
on
file
and
then,
let's
get
to
work,
direct
us
to
help
you.
The
community,
build
a
constituency
for
each
of
the
plan
categories,
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
ensuring
inclusion,
transparency
and
and
the
best
practices
from
each
sector.
I'm
focused
on
economic
development.
I've
talked
to
council
member
newsman
a
few
times
about
how
we
would
analyze
projects,
I'm
always
looking
at
it
through
that
lens.
AA
Economic
development
is
an
easy
one
for
the
the
negatively
impacted
categories,
convene
the
council
quarterly
for
the
next
two
years,
because
we
need
to
get
the
money
spent
within
the
next
two
years
and
then
activate
us
activate
the
community
to
identify
the
projects
and
programs
to
get
to
get
this
going.
So
I
wanted
to
that
is
kind
of
the
the
action
plan.
That's
what
I'm
I'm!
I'm
asking
the
council
to
direct
staff
to
do.
AA
A
D
Thank
you
paul
and.
E
E
D
Been
it's
been
something
we've
been
having
a
discussion
about
a
long
time,
so
I
just
want
to
understand
quickly
the.
D
AA
So,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Councilmember
reed,
sarah
miss
flax,
can
can
back
me
up
on
this.
We
based
on
updates
to
the
to
the
to
the
arpa
planning.
We
wanted
to
align
our
categories
with
how
the
feds
are
analyzing
them,
and
yes,
so
those
are
the
buckets
they
have
a
different
name
and
we've
also
combined
some
of
the
funding
to
it.
Sarah.
What
would
you
add
to
what
I
just
said.
AI
AI
Report
on
what
we're
doing
it
makes
it
align
better
with
the
federal
intent,
but
it
also,
I
think,
helps
us
focus
on
how
we
are
planning
based
on
how
the
funding
is
structured
to
be
used
and
we
do
have.
We
did
have
some
categories
that
didn't
really
exist
in
arpa,
but
that
doesn't
mean
we
can't
still
use
the
methodology
I'm
going
to
use
participatory
budgeting
as
an
example.
AI
Participatory
budgeting
budgeting
is
not
an
eligible
use
in
and
of
itself
it's
a
way
of
getting
decisions
on
how
funding
should
be
spent
and
what
goals
that
should
be
accomplished,
and
so
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
won't
be
able
to
do
participatory
budgeting,
we're
moving
ahead
and
working
on
how
to
figure
out
how
that
will
be
done.
But
so
what
happens
then?
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Gotta
get
ahead
of
me
a
bit
there,
so
I
I
do
understand
that
these
are
the
eligible
expenditure
eligible
categories
under
arpa,
but
we
are
ultimately
setting
our
own
guidelines.
Of
course
it
still
has
to
meet
the
federal
guidelines.
D
Cult
participatory
budgeting
and
you
know,
allow
those
funds
to
cut
across
these,
of
course,
eligible
expenditures.
However,
you
know
the
process
plays
out
because
then
we'd
also
have
a
limitation
on.
I
mean
there's
900
000
left
in
public
health,
so
let's
say
the
group
this
commit
this
group
decided
to
spend
another
500
000,
and
then
the
community
wanted
to
spend
even
more
in
public
health,
and
now
you
know
we
we've
cut
off
in
some
way
that
ability
to
do
that.
D
D
Participatory
budgeting
pulled
out
its
own
fund
and,
of
course
it
has
to
meet
these
eligible
guidelines,
but
just
so
we
know
that
there's
2.5
million
dollars
or
really
2.4,
because
yes
would
be
100
000
for
administration
that
could
be
used
in
in
in
any
of
these
categories.
However,
the
community
voted
upon
that
or
whatever
guidelines.
The
committee
and
the
the
assembly
set
up,
so
I
I
just
want
to
start
with
that.
E
AG
So
I
actually
personally
prefer
this
doing
it
this
way.
I
think,
starting
off
with
the
buckets
that
the
federal
government
outlines
is
a
better
first
step
and
then
I
think
there
can
be
buckets
in
buckets.
We
love
we've
been
overusing
this
bucket
thing,
but
I
think
they
think
of
big
buckets
and
buckets
right.
So
we
need
we
can,
you
know,
set
aside
two
and
a
half
million
in
the
same
way
that
was
described
in
some
of
the
other
charts
that
I've
seen
under
administration
and
others.
AG
If
you
think
that
is
the
area
where
pb
would
would
be
an
eligible
use
is
just
a
bucket
in
a
bucket
right
and
we've
created
some
of
those
already
under
public
health.
You'll
see
mental
health
living
room
cover,
19
response
funding,
the
same
thing
could
happen
with
pb
right
under
administration
and
others.
You
just
see
pb
right
there.
Two
and
a
half
million
simple
thing
community
would
understand
that
and
they'd
have
a
better
sense
of
again
what
bucket
the
federal
govern.
AI
Our
intention
in
increasing
the
admin
was
really
just
for
the
planning
part
of
the
participatory
budgeting
that
was
never
intended
to
be
the
bucket.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that's
really
difficult
is,
and
I
I
hope
that
you'll
understand
there
will
likely
be
flexibility
among
the
buckets
still.
For
example,
we
have
an
estimated
living
room,
expense
right
now
and
it
could
change
we're
working
on
a
welcoming
center.
AI
We
haven't
come
up
with
a
budget
for
that,
yet
we're
working
through
the
child
care
ask
and
their
total
ask
from
the
evanston
early
childhood
childhood
council
was
a
million
seven
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
well
we're
breaking
that
into
different
components,
but
they're
going
to
show
up
in
different
places
in
the
our
in
the
federal
structure,
for
example,
if
we're
helping
their
employees
get
job
training
and
that's
a
workforce
development
element,
and
so
nathan
norman
is
being
looped
in
on
that.
So
that's
one
of
the
challenges
too.
AI
We
have
some
things
that
are
going
to
move
between
buckets
and,
quite
frankly,
we
don't
know
for
sure
that
we've
got
all
the
dollars
in
the
right
place
and
they
will
move
around,
and
so
I
think
that
we
have
to
be
somewhat
flexible
as
we
get
the
projects
we're
working
on
better
costed
out,
and
then
we
can
look
to
see
what's
left
and
how
we
move
from
there.
I
don't
mean
that
we
wait
forever,
but
I
think
that
there
has
to
be.
AI
You
know
we
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
is
we
want
to
do
some
things
that
will
really
be
transformational.
The
living
room
and
the
welcoming
center
are
a
couple
of
those.
This
is
something
we
don't
have
in
our
community.
I
think
it's
something
that
is
greatly
needed,
but
we
also
don't
know
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
and
how
quickly
we're
going
to
be
able
to
get
state
funding
or
or
federal
funding,
we're
working
on
that
at
the
same
time.
AI
So
it's
I
think
we
do
have
to
retain
flexibility
and
and
and
and
with
the
with
the
priority-based
budgeting.
I
think
part
of
what,
as
we
develop
the
plan.
Quite
frankly,
we
have
to
then
look
at
what
we're
looking
at,
including
that
we
want
to
use
in
that
priority-based
budget.
I'd
rather
see
what
needs
we
hear
from
our
residents
that
they
need
and
get
some
ability
to
cost
those
out
than
to
put
an
arbitrary
dollar
amount
on
it.
Does
that
make
sense.
AG
So
I
just
wanted
to
okay,
so
then
the
next
thing
is
because
I
know
carpet.
Carp
is
coming
up
as
well
again
for
me,
because
the
understanding
that,
even
if
we
set
aside
carp-
which
we
should
not,
in
my
opinion
as
a
bucket-
but
we
still
should
have
a
conversation
about
what
that
set-aside
is
either
way
at
some
point.
We're
going
to
have
to
make
it
work
in
this.
Under
these
guidelines,.
F
AG
So
I
don't
know
if
it
was
the
environment
board
or
or
ege
you
know
had
a
list
of
things
that
they
said
they
wanted
to
do,
and
so
all
we
need
to
do
is
figure
out
which
one
of
those
our
priority
for
them,
or
us
or,
however,
we're
going
to
work
it
and
just
see
where
it
fits.
So,
for
example,
they
want
to.
They
want
the
city
to
hire
a
position,
a
few
positions.
AG
I
think
so
the
question
to
staff
and
the
city
is
like:
where
does
that
fit
or
does
it
fit
another
big
one?
Was
the
environmental
justice
study
right?
Where
does
the
study
fit?
Is
that
under
you
know,
I
can't
remember
services
to
the
disproportionately
impacted
community
is
that
you
know
where
it
would
go,
so
I
think
we
can
have
a
conversation
about
carb
set
aside,
but
either
way
we're
gonna
have
to
come
back
to
these
guidelines.
AG
So,
let's
start
here
have
that
conversation,
but
we're
still
gonna
need
to
figure
out
where
it
fits
and-
and
I
think
that's
an
exercise
we
can
do
primarily
because
I
think
the
the
environment
board,
or
whoever
was
did
such
a
great
job
of
doing
it.
And
the
last
thing
I'm
not
saying
is
a
rubric.
We
saw
a
good
example
of
an
rfp
rubric
with
a
clear
point
system.
Consistent.
AI
AG
I
think
that's
committee,
that
should
be
that
should
be
a
part
of
this,
like
what
we
put
on
file
tonight
should
include
a
clear
indication
of
where
each
one
of
these
is
going
to
go.
The
community
should
understand
that
that
should
be
a
part
of
what
we
we
have
on
file
as
well
as
again.
The
other
point
is
a
rubric
like
what
consistent
rubric
with
a
point
system.
AG
Are
we
going
to
apply
at
the
committee
level,
so
people
understand
that
there's
a
consistent
and
fair
way
we're
scoring
different
proposals
because
there's
still
money
left
within,
I
think
each
one
of
these
buckets
and
if
we're
not
going
to
have
a
rubric
or
a
point
system
and
we're
just
going
to
go
off
a
field,
that's
cool
too,
but
I
just
no.
I
brought
it
up
because
we
just
saw
in
this
rfp
process.
A
very
clear
rubric
apply
right
with
a
point.
AI
AI
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
not
all
of
our
projects
are
an
rfp
asking
everyone
to
respond
to
a
specific
thing.
So
I'm
going
to
let
paul
talk
a
little
bit
about
a
rubric
or
a
way
we're
going
to
approach
things.
But
it's
going
to
be
different
by
different
types
of
things:
you're
not
going
to
score
a
housing
development
on
the
same
rubric
as.
AG
AG
Where
is
that
decision
going
to
be
made?
Is
that
at
the
committee
level,
each
committee
is
going
to
come
up
with
its
own
consistent
rubric,
that
they
can
apply
to
future
proposal,
request
or
requests
for
funds
or
yes,.
D
AI
A
AA
AA
I'm
not
calling
them
recommendations.
I'm
saying
you
know
kind
of
in
recognition
of
your
requests
in
the
past.
In
addition
to
some
council
members
desire
for
additional
planning
and
a
lack
of
consensus
on
priorities,
we
put
together
a
list
of
potential
ways
to
evaluate
projects,
and
this
is
not
a
comprehensive
list,
but
it's
pretty
detailed
and
it's
going
to
vary
based
on
committees,
so
page
11,
12
13.
AA
AG
AA
AA
So
then,
part
of
that
is
going
back
to
that
conversation,
and
I
promise
this
is
short
either
we
have
a
weighted
score
or
we
simply
check
boxes
that
fit
into
these
analyses
enough
and
you
you
total
them
up.
I
don't
prefer
that
I
prefer
kind
of
like
what
we've
done
with
the
rfp.
We
weigh
them,
but
we
need
consensus
on
how
we
do
that
much.
AG
G
Z
Councilor
minisma.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
No
one
wants
to
keep
talking
about
buckets
so
I'll.
Keep
this
short
and
say
that
there
are
a
number
of
ways
you
can
look
at
this.
You
can
look
at
it
in
column
format.
You
can
look
at
it
in
row
format.
You
can
look
at
it
in
3d
format.
Z
Z
As
long
as
we
are
doing
carp
and
as
long
as
we
are
doing
participate
participatory
budgeting,
I'm
not
going
to
get
hung
up
on
how
the
buckets
are
defined.
We
need
to
move
this
discussion
forward
and
stop
talking
about
buckets,
so
I
will
begrudgingly
accept
what
is
in
front
of
us
here
and
in
the
spirit
of
moving
the
conversation
forward.
As
I
understand
it,
paul
you're
asking
for
feedback
from
council
tonight
that
we
assign
each
of
these
categories
each
of
these
buckets
to
a
committee.
AA
AD
D
If,
before
we
get
to
that,
I
I
do
have
something
substantive.
Z
F
AI
Z
A
Z
Right
so
negative
economic
impacts
plan,
a
is
the
economic
development
committee,
unless
it
makes
sense
somewhere
else,
staff
can
direct
redirect
accordingly
services
to
disproportionately
impacted
communities.
Where
does
that.
D
D
If
I
may
interject,
because
my
substantive
thing
here
is
the
the
former
buckets
and
I
get,
we
don't
want
to
really
align
with
our
committees,
it
was
very
clear
that
the
social
services
committee
had
this
much
money,
is
very
clear.
Economic
development
committee
had
this
much
money
and
it
so
there's
really
alignment
for
us
to
understand
which
committee
is
dealing
with
how
much
money
and
that
again
I
understand
this
is-
makes
perfect
sense.
D
We
have
to
follow
these
and
everything
has
to
align
with
that,
but
we're
working
through
an
internal
process
right
now,
and
our
internal
process
is
what
council,
member
newsman
is
doing
and
it
it
really
does
not
evenly
align
with
these
federal
categories,
and
I
do
want
to
make
emotion
since
I
have
the
floor
to
separate
participatory
budgeting
as
its
own
bucket
and
because
that's
so
critically
important,
because
if
we
have
each
of
these
committees
thinking
that
they
have
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars,
they
have
ten
million
dollars
they
have
whatever
and
they
spend
up
that
money.
D
Does
that
mean
that
the
pb
group
then
can't
execute
something
in
that
category?
Or
does
that
then
mean
that
we
have
to
pull
money
from
other
buckets
because
pb,
you
know
other
buckets
because
pb
wants
to
you
know
do
something
has
to
do
with
public
health,
but
then
there's
no
more
public
health
money
left.
So
if
we
separated
pb
out,
we
would
have
a
guaranteed
2.5
million
dollars
and
not
confuse
what
these
other
buckets
are.
Where.
D
AA
Z
I
think
it
might
be
pragmatic
just
to
hold
back
a
chunk
of
money
in
you
know
undefined
it
requires
allocation.
We
haven't
yet
assigned
it
to
one
of
the
seven
buckets
make
that
unallocated
money
at
least
two
and
a
half
million,
and
we'll
use
a
participatory
budgeting
process
to
assign
it
to
one
of
these
seven
categories
or
to
choose
a
project
which
would
then
fit
into
one
of
those
seven
categories.
So
that.
AA
A
A
This
issue
to
the
next
meeting
and
to
communicate
all
recommended
changes
in
writing
to
staff
by
the
end
of
this
week,
so
that
those
can
be
compiled.
If
there's
inconsistencies,
that'll
leave
a
little
bit
of
time
to
work
them
out.
If,
as
I
hope
there
are
not,
there
are
not
inconsistencies,
they'll
just
be
incorporated
and
we
can
and
we
can
move
forward.
D
I
will
quickly
say:
I've
made
my
points.
I
don't
know
if
I
hopefully
I
don't
have
to
write
anything
else.
The
only
thing
I
want
is
the
pb
thing
so,
but
I
moved
to
table
this
item
to
the
march
14th.
Is
that
our
next
to.
A
Q
A
D
A
A
D
So
I
am
a
major
proponent
of
the
officer
body.
One
cameras.
My
reason
for
pulling
this
off
is:
I
have
concerns
about
the
purchase
of
a
new
drone,
and
so
I
do
have
chief
outington
a
few
questions
about
the
drone
one
who,
who
is
the
kind
of
drone
expert
here?
Would
that
be
you
or
is
there
somebody
on
stat,
and
I
didn't
mean
that
I
meant
that,
but
who
is
kind
of
our?
Is
there
someone
on
staff?
Who
is
our?
You
know,
drone
person.
AJ
Good
evening
your
honor
city
clerk
members
of
the
council
interim
city
manager
good
morning,
thank
you
for
the
question,
but
the
the
two
people
that
I
go
to
to
talk
about.
Drones
are
detective
brian
bartz
and
sergeant
scott
sophia
or
the
or
the
or
the
folks
that
I
chat
with
about
drone
use
and
deployment.
D
Well,
I
have
a
number
of
questions
about
just
the
use
of
drones
and
the
drone
program
here
in
evanston
that
I
would
like
answered-
and
I
you
know
I
don't
want
to
have
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
to
answer
them,
if
maybe
you're,
not
if
you're
potentially
ill-equipped
to
answer
some
of
those
questions,
and
so
I'd
like
to
hold
this
just
to
the
next
meeting
to
have
some
of
those
questions
answered.
Unless
you
feel
comfortable
with
me,
putting
you
on
the
spot
with
some
of
these.
D
Okay,
so
are
you
one
councilmember
kelly
had
a
number
of
questions
earlier
about
data?
Do
you
have
that
data.
AJ
AJ
AJ
The
current
drone
was
obtained
via
a
grant,
so
I'm
not
certain
that
we
can
resell
it.
So
I
would
prefer
that
we
use
it
for
a
trainer
rather
than
going
through
the
jumping
through
the
hoops
of
attempting
to
sell
something
we
obtained
on
a
grant.
AJ
AJ
Also,
the
fire
chief
estimates
that
their
drone
usage
was
80
hours
since
the
inception
of
drone
program,
we're
somewhere
around
for
the
police
department
somewhere
around
40
hours
plus
training
time,
and
I
would
like
to
read
a
line
out
of
a
memo
prepared
by
sergeant
scott
sofia
for
tonight's
presentation,
and
I
quote:
additional
deployments
may
have
been
hampered
by
not
having
trained
staff
on
duty
to
fly.
The
drone,
when
possible
deployments,
would
have
been
useful.
AJ
D
Thank
you.
I
I'm
curious
about
a
a
breakdown
of
the
40
hours
and
what
that
comprises
of
what
were
the
uses
so
could
drone
data
be
fired
to
drone
data.
AJ
AJ
In
in
the,
I
believe,
there's
an
exclusion
for
that.
I
am
I'm
not
certain,
but
I
can
check.
AH
It
depends
on
if
the
illinois
statute
defines
the
drone
camera
such
the
way
that
it
does
the
body
worn
camera
act
or
or
even
the
dash
cam.
So
that's
something
I'm
actually
literally
trying
to
find
right
now.
D
AH
D
Thank
you
and
could
a
drone
be
used
if
there
was
a
protest
in
the
city
of
evanston?
Could
the
drone
be
used
to
monitor
that
protest,
certainly,
certainly
if,
if.
D
If
you
suspected
that
someone
was
maybe,
if
you
wanted
to
gather
evidence
that
someone
was
maybe
selling
drugs
or
something
could
that
drone
be
deployed
to
determine
whether
or
not
drug
dealing
was
happening
at
a
certain
house,.
AJ
I
don't
know
that
would
be
effective
at
a
certain
house
or
if
we
had
a
street
corner
location,
it
might
be
an
effective
tool
for
that,
but
unless
it
would
be
the
dreaded
open-air
drug
market,
I'm
not
sure
that
the
drone
would
be
the
right
tool
for
for
that
job.
D
Okay
and
and
your
understanding
and
corporation
council
feel
free
that
the
retention
schedule
is
what
for
drone
videos.
AJ
D
Yeah
and-
and
I
actually
will
now
drop
that
as
I've
been
able
to
locate
the
the
state
statute
on
the
it's,
it's
the
freedom
from
drone
surveillance
act
that
was
passed
by
the
state
and-
and
I
here's
why
I
want
to
hold
this,
because
I
think
if
we
are
going
to
deploy
something
like
drones,
we
need
to
have
a
clear
understanding
of
how
these
machines
are
going
to
be
used
and
potentially
in
a
way
that
could
seriously
violate
the
rights
of
residents
in
our
city,
and
I
get
that
there
are
really
great
examples.
D
In
fact,
you
mentioned
a
story
earlier.
Where
do
you
know
what
city
that
was
in
where
the
police
drone
was
used
to
palo.
AJ
D
Okay,
you
know
it
seems
so
after
reading
this
act,
it's
actually
not
a
very
long
act.
It's
pretty
short.
What
it
shows
here
is
that
one
the
reason
that
our
policy
is
30
days
and
why
I'm
not
going
to
insist
on
90
days
is
that
the
the
act
requires
30
days
for
the
retention
of
this
of
this
data.
It
also
would
not
actually
allow
us
to
deploy
a
drone
at
a
protest
unless
it
met
there.
D
There
are
five
criteria,
criteria
that
allow
that
regulate
the
use
of
drones,
and
some
of
them
are
a
little
at
least
one
of
them
is
a
little
vague,
but
a
lot
of
them
are
good
and
provide
some
pretty
good
measures
to
protect
residents
from
I'm
all
for
you,
so
we
are
required
every
time
we
use
a
drone
in
a
criminal
case.
It
says
here
in
the
statute
that
we
are
required
to
submit
a
report
to
the
state's
attorney's
office.
Are
you
familiar
with
that?
D
So
that's
a
data
point
that
I
think
we
get
how
many
times
we
have
used
a
drone
in
a
criminal
case,
because
there'd
be
a
clear
record
because
the
statute
requires
so
do
we
have
an
estimate
of
how
many
times
we've
used
it
in
a
criminal
case,
or
is
that
something
you
have
to
get
back
to
us
on
no
yeah?
I
had
the
answer
is
one?
Oh
one.
Okay,
it's
been
used
one
time
in
a
criminal
case.
Yes
did
I
outline.
D
I
I
again,
I
support
the
body-worn
cameras.
I
support
the
vr
system
and
all
of
that
stuff
great
up
updates.
I
I
even
support
the
use
of
the
drone.
You
know
for
life-saving.
I
am
curious,
so
you
did
mention
a
case
where
it's
deployed
for
the
fire
department
to
detect.
You
know
someone
who,
I
think
was
a
victim
of
drowning.
How
is
that
data?
D
So
if
there
isn't
a
live
stream
on
the
current
system,
when
you're
flying
it
over
the
lakefront
to
determine
you
know,
use
the
heat
signature,
how
do
you?
How
does
the
data
get
back,
that
hey,
there's
a
ping
and
there's
a
body
here.
AJ
Only
the
drone
pilot
sees
that
data
right
now
versus
sharing
it
with
the
command
post
and
and
basically
one
of
the
other
options
to
this
particular
system
is
we
can
live
stream
from
the
body
cameras
also
back
to
the
command
post,
specifically.
D
With
the
drones
drones
too,
okay,
but
so
the
drones,
but
the
current
drone
does
allow
for
a
live
streaming
option
just
not
to
the
command
post,
correct.
D
D
And
and
so
video
from
a
drone
and.
AJ
D
And
with
that,
and
my
supposed
answer
would
be
yes,
if
you
can
download
the
data,
you
could
put
it
into
another,
and
would
that
be
illegal
here
in
evanston,
for
the
police
department
to
fly
a
drone
over
a
protest
crowd
and
then
use
facial
recognition,
data.
AJ
No,
but
would
that
be
illegal?
I
don't,
I
will
certainly
be
outside
of
city
policy,
and-
and
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
you
have
to
understand
is
that
we're
we're
we're
controllable,
we're.
I
think
the
private
individuals
have
drones,
are
into
much
more
nefarious
activities
and
and
so
for
us
to
even
undertake
something
that
you're
describing
the
the
expense
in
the
software.
The
facial
recognition
would
certainly
be
a
city
council
agenda
item
that
that
that
stuff
is
not
inexpensive,
and
so
the
the
scenario
you're
outlining
would
be
impossible
without
your
financial
support.
A
A
Irrespective
of
the
opinion
of
the
of
the
governing
body
of
the
municipality
in
question
council
member
burns
is
next
followed
by
council
member
braithwaite.
A
The
councilmember
birth
rate
moves
the
question
I
always
mess
this
up.
Is
there
a
second?
Does
it
need
to
be
a
second
okay.
Councilmember
moves
the
question
council
member
when
seconds
now
I
need
to
call
the
role
on
that
which
I
failed
to
do
in
the
past.
So
the
clerk,
please
call
the
role
on
the
motion
to
call
the
question.
A
D
A
Z
Three
upcoming
meetings,
the
ward
meeting
for
the
fourth
ward,
will
be
later
this
evening,
tuesday
march,
first
from
seven
to
eight
pm.
Z
Since
I
was
unsuccessful
in
getting
president
biden
to
reschedule
the
state
of
the
union,
we'll
just
have
a
short
one
office
hours,
saturday,
the
12th
from
10
to
noon
and
sometime
within
the
next
few
weeks,
exact
date
and
time
to
be
determined.
Z
A
Council,
member
ravel
no.
D
D
D
Y
V
W
Thank
you,
councillor
harry
potters,
welcome
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you.